Canadiens fill out Bulldogs staff

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Marc Bergevin continues to have a fine old time spending Geoff Molson’s money – all off-ice, so far.
The latest hires are former Canadiens defencemanDonald Dufresne and Vincent Riendeau to serve as Sylvain Lefebvre’s assistant coaches in Hamilton.
And Ethan Moreau joins the Canadiens to shore up an organization Achilles heel: pro scouting.

The team announcement:

Montreal Canadiens Executive vice president and general manager, Marc Bergevin, announced today the appointment of Donald Dufresne as assistant coach and Vincent Riendeau as goaltending consultant with the Montreal Canadiens AHL affiliate team in Hamilton. The Club also confirmed the hiring of Ethan Moreau as part time professional scout (Western Conference).

A native of Quebec City, Donald Dufresne was selected 117th overall, by the Montreal Canadiens in the 1985 NHL Entry Draft. Following his junior career in the QMJHL with the Trois-Rivières Draveurs and Longueuil Chevaliers, Dufresne, now 45, began his professional hockey career with the Canadiens AHL affiliate team in Sherbrooke. After five seasons with the Montreal organization, he went on to play with the Tampa Bay Lightning, Los Angeles Kings, St. Louis Blues and Edmonton Oilers. In nine seasons, Dufresne played 268 NHL games recording 42 points (6 goals and 36 assists) and etched his name on the Stanley Cup in 1993 as a member of the Canadiens. Following his active playing career in 1998, Donald Dufresne settled in Rimouski where he joined the Oceanic coaching staff as an assistant for the 2000-01 season. He held a similar position with the Quebec Citadelles the following season before returning to Rimouski as head coach from 2003 to 2005 and taking his team to the league championship in 2005. After a few years away from the team, Dufresne returned to the Oceanic as an assistant coach in 2008-09 along with the duties of assistant general manager over three of the past four seasons.

Vincent Riendeau began his professional hockey career with the Canadiens minor league affiliate, the Sherbrooke Canadiens, after signing as a free agent in the fall of 1986. In his first AHL season in Sherbrooke, he was awarded the Hap Holmes Trophy after leading the league for the fewest goals allowed. After two seasons with the farm team, he moved on to St. Louis, playing with the Blues from 1988 to 1992, the Detroit Red Wings and the Boston Bruins. Over his NHL career, he recorded 85 wins, including 5 shutouts, 65 losses and 20 ties in 184 games. In 1995- 96, Riendeau resumed his career in Europe playing successively in Germany, Switzerland, Great Britain before becoming the first North-American born netminder to play with a Russian Superleague team when he suited up with the HC Lada Togliatti. Following his retirement in 2001, he embraced a new career as a goaltending consultant in the Toronto Maple Leafs’ organization. In 2004-05, he joined the QMJHL Cape Breton Screaming Eagles as goaltender coach. Since 2005, he has been working with various European league teams on a consulting basis, including the Adler Mannheim, Germany (2005-07), HC Fribourg-Gotteron, Switzerland (2007), Huskies Kassel (2008-09) and Hamburg Freeze, Germany (2010-2012). Now 46, Riendeau owns a goaltending school with summer camps in several Quebec areas, and runs the Vincent Riendeau Hockey School at the North American Hockey Academy, in Vermont.

Selected in the first round, 14th overall, by the Chicago Blackhawks in the 1994 NHL Entry Draft, Ethan Moreau played 928 regular season games in the NHL with Chicago, Edmonton, Columbus and Los Angeles. Moreau was awarded the King Clancy Trophy in 2008-09 as the player who best exemplifies leadership qualities on and off the ice and has made as noteworthy humanitarian contribution in his community.

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  3. gerrybell says:

    lines for next year….

    gallagher — Galchenyuk — Bournival
    Palushaj — Gomez — Willsie
    Avtsin — Engqvist — Dumont
    Schultz — ??

    St. Denis — Nash
    Tinordi — Bealieau
    Ellis — Pateryn/Kaberle

  4. gmur says:

    I’ve written here before that, having watched Grigorenko over a season of play with the Remparts, he doesn’t bring a lot of intensity to the ice when teams are evenly matched. When he plays against fast, big opponents and the traffic gets heavy, he disappears. I see him as a bigger version of Alexandre Daigle… with the option of defecting to the KHL on top of it.

    This has nothing to do with illness, unless a perceived lack of heart is an illness. His ranking was slowly dropping before the playoffs, as competition heated up in the Q.

    But then, who knows? With more maturity, the staff the Canadiens have now to work with young players, etc… maybe he’s the best choice. I’m sure Timmins has done his homework and will make a savvy choice.

  5. Un Canadien errant says:

    The way Mr. Grigorenko has fallen in final draft rankings and mock drafts is surprising. Whereas he was thought at the start of the season to be in competition with Nail Yakupov for the honor of being the first player taken overall, he is now seen, for example, as the 12th ranked prospect in Bob McKenzie’s final draft rankings for TSN, a historically reliable indicator of draft intentions since they are compiled by averaging the scores of numerous NHL scouts’ lists.

    The grumbling started midway through last season, Mr. Grigorenko’s first in the LHJMQ, when anonymous scouts were quoted as saying he was lazy and didn’t give full effort, especially on the back check. The money quote came from a scout who said that he wouldn’t pick him in the Top-15 if his team’s turn came up that high.

    On the record, some scouts would partially agree that it sometimes appeared that he didn’t give full effort, but would temper their words by explaining that his game is a more cerebral game as opposed to an in-your-face puck-chasing physical centre like Brendan Gaunce. Whereas the latter hits and digs with energy in the corners, Mr. Grigorenko is more of a positional player who anticipates where the puck will be and uses his body effectively but unspectacularly.

    The further explanation that he had mononucleosis during the playoffs and thus couldn’t play with full energy, as well as having to fight off an ankle sprain suffered during the World Junior Tournament hasn’t managed to salvage his reputation.

    One factor which can’t be overlooked is how much the comparison with Alex Galchenyuk paints him in an unflattering light. Mr. Galchenyuk has a more spectacular playing style, he’s a touch shorter and has a shorter skating stride, which makes him appear more engaged. He is also a gym rat, a fact which helped him wow the scouts at the NHL Draft Combine, while Mr. Grigorenko had to stay on the sidelines and couldn’t participate in the physical testing as he recovers from his illness. An important component in the comparison is how much more fluent and comfortable Alex Galchenyuk is in the English language compared to his counterpart.

    The result is that while he was seen as a reasonable option for the Canadiens at #3 as recently as a couple weeks ago, he now would be seen as a ‘reach’ if he was taken there. This is a ridiculous analysis of the situation for various reasons.

    One is the fact that aside from Nail Yakupov and possibly Ryan Murray, there is no clearcut choice who is head and shoulders above the other prospects. Indeed, Mr. Yakupov is thought to be slightly better than his cohort, but not to the same degree as Eric Lindros or Vincent Lecavalier or Sidney Crosby was. This isn’t even a Taylor-Tyler situation, where two picks are clearly, significantly better than the other choices. Further, the other choices in the Top 10 or 15 are thought to be ‘bunched up’ and relatively equal in value. So if the Canadiens deem it an organizational need to get a big strong skilled centre, Mikhail Grigorenko is as valid a pick as Matt Dumba or Filip Forsberg, and not a case of passing over clearly better players to choose a project.

    Second, the concept of a reach is stretched to the point of meaninglessness by draft analysts. A team is reaching when they pick a player a full round or two ahead of where they could reasonably have expected to snag that player. For example, if the Canadiens had Malcolm Subban ranked as the best player on their board at #3, and they picked him, they might be assailed as having reached for him since he was only ranked #25 or so. In fact, however, they would have drafted the best player available to them in their estimation, their own research showed them, right or wrong, that he was the most logical choice, regardless of outside rankings. Now, if Malcolm Subban had been ranked closer to #45, then the Canadiens could be accused of reaching, since they conceivably could have picked him up at #33. They could have taken a very reasonable risk and waited until the second round, and have picked up another player rated highly on their board in the first round. Clearly, this won’t be the case on Saturday, Mr. Grigorenko will be long gone by the time the second round starts.

    So if on Friday the Canadiens choose Mikhail Grigorenko, convinced that he is the best player for the team for years to come, I’ll be happy with the choice and will trust that the scouting staff made the best decision it could.

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    • Bun E. Laroque says:

      It does seem a little absurd that Grigorenko , so highly touted a few weeks ago is suddenly considerably less desirable than the other candidates. This perception seems entirely based on what the hockey press choose to feed us. He appears to have the potential to be a dominant forward. Of course all these players have the potential and I also trust that the Habs’ scouting staff are able to pick the most appropriate player for the team. I just hope that said player is an offensive forward, taller than 5′ 8″ and heavier than 175 pounds.

    • Cal says:

      Galchenyuk is American. I’d hope he’s comfortable speaking English. ;)

    • petefleet says:

      First, Dumba and Forsberg are not a centremen
      Second, Galchenyuk was more high touted than Yakupov before his season ending injury and he should be the Canadiens #3 pick if available.

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  6. Un Canadien errant says:

    The mood of Canadiens’ fans seems to be turning from excitement and anticipation to angst as the draft draws nearer. The biggest reason would be that by now, geeky obsessive fans have scoured all the publications and scouting reports, they’ve watched all the highlights on YouTube, heck some may have actually watched junior games, even attended them live, and by now have made up their mind who their favourite is. Man crushes have fully bloomed.

    For Canadiens fans, the consensus seems to be that Alex Galchenyuk is the most desirable option, and already there are visions of a big, tall, speedy and skilled centre wearing the bleu blanc rouge and sating the perennial famine for the ‘gros joueur de centre’. This is indeed not a new requirement, but rather a perceived need for our team since the seventies. We did have Peter Mahovlich back then, all 6’5″ of him, playing between Guy Lafleur and Steve Shutt, but somehow that didn’t seem good enough, we wanted someone better, bigger, faster, who scored more, another Jean Béliveau perhaps, chop chop. Over the years, players such as Bobby Smith, Pierre Turgeon and Vincent Damphousse came and went, all not quite filling the bill in our eyes. We’d look past them, searching for someone better. We had a long dalliance with Vincent Lecavalier which was never consummated. Last winter there was alleged sexting going on with Eric Staal and Ryan Getzlaf.

    So now that we’re so close to the object of our affection, we’re agonizing that he may slip through our fingers, whisked away by an undeserving American beau, leaving us standing at the altar. We’d have to enter a marriage of convenience with a less enthralling prospect, one who may be a very sensible choice and would be a very good provider, but doesn’t get our pulse racing like the one we had promised our heart to.

    I do think an Alex Galchenyuk would look good as a Hab, and it’s highly likely we’ll get him, but if we end up with someone else I’m not too worried about it. We’ll get a very good prospect no matter what happens on Friday, and I really think we’re in a can’t lose position.

    Let’s imagine that the Oilers take Nail Yakupov, or trade down with a team that snatches him at #1. While there’s a lot of noise lately about there not being that much separation between he and all the other prospects, I think a lot of that is media hype and manufactured controversy to feed the clamour we create for draft news and analysis. I fully expect sanity to prevail and that the player long expected to go #1 will do so.

    Next will come the Columbus Blue Jackets, and I expect they will draft Ryan Murray, as he is the most NHL-ready prospect and is the player who will sell the most tickets there and provide the most hope, which this franchise dearly needs to survive now that it’s in the process of shopping its franchise player. With Rick Nash potentially gone next season, the Blue Jackets will be in the business of selling fans on a young exciting team, and they can do that much better by plugging Mr. Murray in their lineup and touting him as the next great defenceman than by drafting a player with a Russian name, considering the Jackets’ draft history, and one who will most probably be in Sarnia next fall.

    Even if my confidence proves unfounded, and either the Oilers or Blue Jackets or a team they make a deal with chooses Mr. Galchenyuk before we can, there are still two big centres with talent available in Radek Faksa and Mikhail Grigorenko. The Canadiens could manoeuvre to trade down a few slots to pick up assets and still pick up one of these promising players. These young gentlemen would ably fill the putative need for a big playmaking centre, if that is what the management team has decided must be done with this once-a-decade high pick.

    Or they could snap up Filip Forsberg, who most of us have not seen play, but is highly coveted by scouts who have. Mr. Forsberg is spurned by those who dream of Alex Galchenyuk, but he must have some definite promise to be included in every scout’s Top 5.

    In any case, there isn’t a Vincent Lecavalier or Sidney Crosby in this draft, a player who is head and shoulders above every prospect and who will turn a franchise around by himself. Mr. Galchenyuk is certainly an enticing prospect, but he doesn’t bring that much potential and isn’t that much of a prize, certainly not relative to all the other quality prospects and according to all the professionals who evaluate potential draftees.

    So I’m excited to see what unfolds on Friday, will be moderately optimistic no matter who we end up with, and will allow Trevor Timmins and his staff a lot of latitude to do the best they can with the situation they’re faced with.

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    • steve17 says:

      Nice post but I am not sure where you got the impreesion that fans were not satisfied with Damphousse, Trugeopn or some of the other players you’ve mentioned. I lived through the great 70′s and on and the only contstant point fans made was why did we not get these players earlier when they were hitting their prime or from the draft. Fans will always want better, it is natural. The fact that the Habs have not had a true superstar since Roy left is what fans have complained about.

      The big centre and larger forwards has been a constant complaint pretty much since 2000 because in the playoffs the team has been beaten down physically.

      My take is, if the centres are skilled and there are gritty power wingers with skill, the centres don’t need to be huge, Richards isn’t huge, he is the same size as Pleks.

      From the posts I have read, I don’t think the fans are worried about anything other than if the Habs choose Forsberg, he won’t bring the offensive skills that change games and pull you out of your seats. He also wants to stay one more season in Sweden.

      The fans have not had the excitment that comes from having such a high pick in so long, they just want to see an impact player taken. Plain and simple

      Habfan17

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Turgeon was ripped for being soft and fell out of favor fairly quickly after arriving here.

        Damphousse was awesome. If Galchenyuk turned out to be anywhere near the player Damphouse was he’d be a spectacular pickup.

  7. Marcusman says:

    Why are folks so keen on trading Pleks? He is one of our best players and can be counted on under pressure for both offense and defense. In my opinion if our entire team was made up of all Pleks and one Price we’d only lose a handful of games each year. he truly has it all stop wishing him away.

    • shiram says:

      I have not seen him play as a D’ but his play on the point was enough for me to say I’d like to see someone else on D.
      Pleks as good value, on a good cap hit, and people think DD can take over.
      I don’t think DD can fill Plek’s shoe alone.

      • commandant says:

        Strength at Centre Ice is a hallmark of NHL teams, and if you ever do have too many centres, you can always move one to LW or RW.

        People worry too much about what we will do if we draft Galchenyuk who probably doesn’t even start the year with the big club.

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        • shiram says:

          I was joking about the Pleks at every spot thing. But yeah, as I’ve been saying all along, keep the 3 C’s for now.

        • steve17 says:

          Montreal does not have strength at centre, that is why it makes sense to move Pleks, even if they don’t draft a centre. When the opportunity to make your club better presents itself, you take advantage of it. When the Habs had their almost “miracle” run two seasons ago, Pleks was less effective as the playoffs progressed. I love him as aplayer, but it is a business. Philly traded two centre pieces and are better for it and will be even better in the future and for a longer time.

          The majority of the folks posting here want Bergevin to make the team better, but then they say don’t trade anyone! I want them to be better and be conistent contenders for the cup, not a team that slips in eaxh year and says once we are in anything an happen.

          Your comment that even if there was logjam at centre you simply move someone to wing does not hold water. Not all players can make the adjustment orwill be as good when moved. Eller is a prime example. He was just okay and looked lost at times on the wing, but he makes his linemates better when he stay at centre.

          Habfan17

        • boing007 says:

          It remains to be seen what Galchenyuk could show us in September, if he becomes our pick. Landeskog did better than all right at age 19.

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      • steve17 says:

        I don’t think DD can fill his shoes alone, but like Plaks, Eller needs better wingers and the same ones to build chemistry and to see if he really is a second line centre. If not, he is a very good 3rd line centre and if the Habs take Galchenyuk and he ends up being all they think he can be, having him on the top 2 lines with DD, and Eller with Bourque and Leblanc/Quailer/Gallagher, would give the Habs 3 lines that can put up points.

        Habfan17

        • shiram says:

          Gal or just about any other C in the drafr are a couple years away, so I don’t see a pressing urge to move any of the current C’s.

          • steve17 says:

            There may not be a rush to clear out a centre, but LeBlanc could play on the 3rd line and Bobby Ryan is available now and would make the Habs bigger and better.

            Habfan17

          • shiram says:

            They might score more, but they could be more porous defensively.
            I think it boils down to trying to win soon, or later, making a move for Ryan now means they are trying to compete right now, keeping Pleks and the pick would mean building for the future.

          • steve17 says:

            I don’t agree, Ryan is only 24! Pleks is almost 30!

            Habfan17

          • shiram says:

            Ryan is 25 actually, does not change your argument, just saying…
            He’d be a great pickup sure, but overall I still prefer keeping the 3rd and Pleks.

          • Mad Habber says:

            I heard Chicago was thinking about trading Bolland..so there is someone who can fill the defensive void.

    • steve17 says:

      Because he has reached his peak and has the most value with the exception of players like Subban and Price, who should not be traded, Also, if the Habs draft a centre with the 3rd pick, they have too many centres and DD and Eller have upside, are younger, and are cheaper right now, Trading Pleks for Bobby Ryan would give the habs something they really lack, another big power winger who can score. Then the top two lines would be better.

      Habfan17

    • RiverviewCanadien says:

      Ridiculous all this Plekanec trade talk. You DON’T trade away that kind of talent, not at a cap hit of 5 million.

      Most complete, and a coaches dream player, every role, with every type of player, and still puts up points while facing adversity.

      Nope, you keep him around as long as you can.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      This team won’t be a serious contender next year, or the year after. Trading Pleks would make this team even worse for those two seasons, but it could make the team much better in the long term. That’s why I’d think about doing it.

      *Sean BonJovi’s Draft List = 1. Yakupov 2. Grigorenko 3. Galchenyuk*

  8. HabFanSince72 says:

    Impact footballer told to speak white.

    http://www.rds.ca/impact/chroniques/342342.html


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    • shiram says:

      Saying a whole city is racist based on one encounter with one person?

      Also, he retracted it saying the city is not racist, proving people should watch what they say on those networks.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        He retracted it after being spoken to by Impact management, is my bet.

        The shocker isn’t the one individual ticket seller but the supervisor confirming that he did nothing wrong, and in fact complied with official policy.


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        • shiram says:

          You are adding your own spin to it.
          While I don’t agree with this, what is said is that STM employees are not forced to speak any other langage other than French, not that they can have a racist attitude towards people.
          Besides it seems it’s out of the STM’s hand, because of bill 101.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        He retracted it once it got noticed. I’m sure his opinion hasn’t changed, like many other peoples’ opinion of Montreal.

        Not saying I agree with his opinion but I see his point and how other visitors to Montreal could feel the same way.

        I personally speak enough French to buy a Metro ticket but would have told the employee to…I’m sure you can fill in the blanks.

        • shiram says:

          I’m sure I could get the same treatment elsewhere in Canada, trying to buy a ticket speaking French…

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            You do have a point but I don’t think you are that naive.
            There is no Bill 102 in other provinces forcing people to speak English.

            I love Montreal but some of the language crap that goes on there is borderline racist and reeks of insecurity, quite pathetic.

            Shouldn’t say Montreal because the city is quite content being bilingual. The rest of the province is a joke and Montreal has to pay for it.

          • shiram says:

            Uh thanx? Not sure where you are going with the naive thing.

            I would not have a problem since I don’t mind speaking either french or english. I wish more people would embrace this bilingual thing we got going in Canada…

            edit : ah the 101 bill thing, well sure they don’t, but they are not going to hire an unilingual french guy to sell tickets in the Toronto subway either. MTL has about 66% of people speaking french as their first langage, so even without the bill, they’d probably have to hire french speaking people anyways.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            66% have French as a 1st language and most of them speak English as well. Plus all the tourists that visit the city and the other 34%, pretty dumb to not hire bilingual people.

          • shiram says:

            I can agree on that, it’s pretty dumb not to hire bilingual people.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            In many areas of Canada it’s not required but bilingualism in Montreal is essential.

          • boing007 says:

            I was a doorman at Hotel La Cité in the late 70s. Most of our guests were from the United States. I don’t expect every employee of the STM to speak a word of English, but in a way it is an integral part of tourism in Montréal. As are bars, hotels and restaurants. STM employees have no business being curt or rude to transit riders just on the basis that they don’t speak a word of French. They could be insulting someone who is in Montréal on business, or even someone who is thinking of moving here. This wave of anti-English sentiment in Montréal the past few years has really gotten out of hand. The people who succeeded in creating this climate of intolerance and unnecessary friction should be ashamed of themselves.

            Richard R
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  9. Lafleurguy says:

    Late in the discussions below but I have two cents so here goes. Even if it doesn’t pan out, I want to see how a current Habs team of homegrown youngsters may develop into a contending team. The business of trading for key players, or the equally restrictive action of tossing onerous contracts to players past their prime was the signature strategem of the Bob Gainey era, with only modest success following (Kovalev, Tanguay, Hamrlik, Spacek, Camalleri, Gomez). Only Erik Cole and Hal Gill were free agent signings that exceeded expectations. If Bobby Ryan, no. 2 overall behind the Kid, were brought here, I could see him having Camalleri type production. He is no Stamkos.

    Having a Galchenyuk replace Nokelainen on the roster coupled with a return to health by Gionta and Moen (assuming he signs) already creates a feeling of optimism. A few signings of free agents in the 2mill/year range and the team can contend.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  10. TorontoHabsFan says:

    If the asking price for Staal (UFA after next season) is a mid-level prospect and a high pick, I’d jump at the chance.

    Leblanc and a 2nd? Done in a heartbeat.

  11. Timo says:

    I don’t know about you, but french has nothing to do with all these Habs’ hirings.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      And Bertrand Raymond’s good mood is due to it being the first day of summer.


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    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Hey if it can shut the damn French media up it could be a very good thing.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Maybe it’s a very elaborate practical joke by Bergevin?

        After hiring Dudley and Mellanby he was criticized by Raymond and Bergeron for hiring too many Anglos.

        Maybe he said to himself “oh yeah, I’ll show them …”


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  12. steve17 says:

    Great! When will they announce the last assistant to Therrien?

    Habfan17

  13. JoaquindaPark says:

    If you are to trade Plekanec, better to get a guy like RJ Umberger. An improvement in size, same production, and a guy who traditionally lights it up at the phone booth.

  14. Habs64 says:

    Howard you cannot ban me here:)

  15. jon514 says:

    Really excited to see what Desharnais has in store for us this year. He’s never really taken a step back in his career (slight dip from 2005 to 2006)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Desharnais

    Can he avoid a “sophomore slump” in his second full year?

    • shiram says:

      I see a risk of his production slipping, mostly because teams have had a whole season to work out his pattern and watch his replays.
      I’m hoping he pulls another solid effort for 60 points.

  16. DMAN says:

    Jiri Hudler anyone? Could give us leverage to trade Plekanec if a deal was there!

  17. Un Canadien errant says:

    I love the fact that Donald Dufresne gets a job with the Canadiens. He’ll do well in Hamilton working with the youngsters. He and Lefebvre will be a great resource for Greg Pateryn, Jared Tinordi, Morgan Ellis and Nathan Beaulieu.

    Can you imagine how well a young Donald Dufresne would fit in on this current group of defencemen? We didn’t really have room for him back then, we were kind of set at the time, but man would his style of play and skillset have helped out last season, and we’d have one fewer headache this off-season.

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    • Lafleurguy says:

      With all due respect to coaches Cunneyworth and Ladouceur, with skills being equal, there’s a nice feel to Habs alumni being in coaching positions in the organization. In a sense, their seasons of being torch-bearers probably extracts a degree of greater commitment to their present jobs. To explain, Lemaire remembers himself as a Canadiens and not a Devil; Gretzky remembers himself as an Oiler and not a King (pun?).

      “May you live in interesting times.”

  18. 24 Cups says:

    I’d be happy if the Habs signed UFAs McClement, Zanon or Eaton. Either Moen or Prust would fill out the team.

    Keep our power dry and wait for the summer of 2013 when things are much more in our favour.

  19. 24 Cups says:

    Getzlaf signs contract extension.

    http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=398805

  20. HardHabits says:

    What are the AntiChambre crew going to bitch about now that there’s a virtual plethora of French speaking people in the organization. Maybe, just maybe, Raymond Bertrand is going to call Geoff Molson “un bons gars de chez nous” very soon.

  21. otisfxu says:

    Hiring all these new faces is the easy part – Like on the ice though, you can have too many new faces in management too.

    I’ll get excited when I see 3 good lines, a consistent 40-50 goal scorer, and the other 15 teams in the rearview mirror.

    I really couldn’t give a crap who is coaching in Hamilton.

  22. DMAN says:

    On a serious note, I do love how we are giving so many french speaking coaches and scouts opportunities. It only widens our pool for future coaches and managers. Bergevin is proving he is a good leader. He is not afraid to bring people on who could prove to be better than him!!!!

  23. Rad says:

    Get outta here. Who let the Trolls in here?

    • DMAN says:

      You’re just jealous that Bergevin didn’t call you. He did tell me that he needs an assistant coach as well, you should give him a call. He wants to hire as many former players and fans as possible.

  24. DMAN says:

    I am so excited!!!!! I just got off the phone with Bergevin! He informed me that I have been selected as Director Of Player Personalities. I wanted all my buddies on HIO to be the first to know. TSN will announce it tomorrow!

  25. otisfxu says:

    Re Crosby and the HABS, don’t forget he was big HABS fan growing up and was disappointed when MTL didn’t end up getting that first pick after the lockout.
    His old man was drafted as a goaltender back in the 80′s by the HABS too.

  26. 24 Cups says:

    I can’t see Mario letting Crosby go to another team. Wishful thinking on our part as Hab fans.

    I thought Carolina was in the hunt for Nash, not Staal.

    The new management team is certainly loading up on French speaking hires for the front office. Getting some decent French speaking players is going to be a lot tougher. I wonder what the odds are of Darche coming back as the 13th forward?

  27. habs001 says:

    Two key players for the habs in the future will be pk and price…pk has the potential to be one of the top d in the league and price is a solid workhorse goalie who has not reached top goalie status in the league but has the potential…

  28. TomNickle says:

    I’m wondering why a semi-rebuilding Ducks team would want to trade a 25 year old who has scored 30 goals in four consecutive seasons.

    Anybody?

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      They’re seeing the massive return Nash is going to bring Columbus and want in on the action.

    • habstrinifan says:

      If you are referring to my posts remember it is the august, knowledgeable, respected and altogether restraint McKenzie who seems to be officially confirming that Rayn is available… again.

      AS to the why?

      Serious glut of UFA’S/RFA’s next 2 years.

      Deep pool of highly regarded offensive prospects.

      Potential of 2 top six picks with at least 4 highly regarded defensemen available… a position Ducks are kinda weak in.

      Excitement cachet to fans who see thrill of 2 first rnd picks.

      May free up dollars to entice Justin Shultz.

      I think you gotta call up their GM for a beer or two… at least.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      You should see some of the proposals by Flyers fans over on HFboards. Some were along the lines of Couturier/Schenn + Simmonds/JVR + 1st rounder + 2nd rounder.

      If he can get that, I’d b willing to trade him as well.

    • jon514 says:

      Setting our sights on a reasonable target, I would love to see us trade one of our prospect D, say Morgan Ellis, for Emmerson Etem straight up.

      In case you just said who?

      http://whl.ca/roster/show/id/687

  29. habstrinifan says:

    My squelching- hot, longest day of the year, addled-mind forecast of events for this weekend which propels the HABS to power-house status in the league.

    Bobby Ryan/Brookbank traded for and signed.
    Larry Robinson introduced as assistant coach.
    Price and Subban inked to minimum 3 yr deals.
    Shane O’Brien acquired.
    Gomez, Kaberle traded to some team wanting to reach the cap for a 2nd round and we pick…..Hey I dont know everything I’ll let Commandant tell us whom.

    We start the 2012-2013 as one of the prohibitive favourites to finish 1st in the East.

    • Cal says:

      Maybe a GM is stuck with a heat-addled head and makes those trades. One can only hope….

    • 24 Cups says:

      What are we giving up for Ryan? It will at least cost you Leblanc and one of Tinordi or Beaulieu. Will Ryan sign here long term?

      You may be overrating Brookbank. He’s basically a 6th or 7th Dman.

      I seriously doubt either Gomez or Kaberle will generate a 2nd rounder. More like a mid rounder, at best. Not to mention that as far as next year goes we just might need Kaberle while we wait for the kids to develop.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Our 3rd overall pick and someone like Plekanec for Ryan/Brookbank and Anaheim’s 2nd rnd pick. Deal coullld be further tweaked but no giving up HIO consensus key young guys.

        • 24 Cups says:

          I still question whether or not Ryan would ever sign here. Same goes for Staal. I’d want a sign and trade deal for sure. Ryan is going to cost us 7M and now we only have DD and Eller left at centre. I’d rather keep Pleks and Glachenyuk over Ryan.

          Isn’t Brookbank an UFA? If so, he has no value in a trade as a depth defenseman.

          I realize this trade is a dream of yours that you have mentioned many times but I would see it as a step back. I’d rather take my chances with two top five picks over the next two years and go from there.

          • boing007 says:

            Build from the ground up. Cultivate our own garden. Home grown, dyed in the wool, CH loving players.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • habstrinifan says:

        “You may be overrating Brookbank. He’s basically a 6th or 7th Dma”

        Dont think I am but if Anaheim thinks like you do then it works in my favour they may see the price of simply ‘our 3rd pick overall’as just good enough. I have done a real thorough look at UFA defensemen with size and around 3 yr experience in the league but who can be had for MAX two mill and who are young and are steady and good plus-minus. He fits the bill although there are others.

    • habs001 says:

      From 28th overall to favourites in the east ..we would need way more than those 3 players…

  30. slamtherimtim says:

    too many friends and not enough hockey people , MB is sure to make a mistake , keep hiring your friends and it will be a couple made , just because you played hockey doest mean you can make a careeer of it , all this staff and no player news is making me depressed , time to take a pink pill realx and give him a chance

    • thorandresson says:

      How do you know they’re his friends that he’s hiring? Do you know MB personally and know exactly who his friends are? Or maybe you have on facebook and that’s how you know? Just because he’s hiring ex-players doesn’t mean he’s hiring his friends. Also, you said not enough hockey people, these people he’s hiring are ex-hockey players for the most part, how are they not hockey people exactly? I’m baffled by that statement.

      As for lack of player news, there hasn’t been much player news in the nhl in general, remember the playoffs just finished. Also, wouldn’t it be wiser to put a management team and coaching team in place first? Before going forward with player movement?

  31. jmsheehy19 says:

    Tom or Commandant, y’all heard anything about this kid? Seems like he’d be a steal in the later rounds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyu1CJPKpe0

  32. GenerationYHabs says:

    Repost from other thread ( Was on my phone and didn’t realise a new one had started) :

    If Edmonton is as desperate for defense as people make them out to be then wouldn’t trading them weber our 3rd and possibly Ellis make sense to them? They can then still pick Murray at 3rd and gain 2 prospects and we get an NHL ready talent in Yakupov.

  33. Greg says:

    Guys…guys… let’s put this to bed right now. Crosby is not coming to Montreal. Barring a major falling out in Pittsburgh, he will retire a Penguin. Look at what Columbus wants for Nash, could you imagine, with your minds, what Shero would be asking for if Crosby was available? It would be ludicrous. It wouldn’t be worth it. Even for Crosby.

    For example: Carey Price, PK Subban, Max Pacioretty and a 1st round pick.

    Not worth it. Not for ANY single player.

    • shiram says:

      You don’t trade for the player, you trade for his rights after next season, he will be an UFA then.

    • TomNickle says:

      And what if Crosby doesn’t sign a contract extension and heads to Unrestricted Free Agency?

      I know, I know. Crazy notion regarding a guy with one year left on his contract.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      And just what would happen if Crosby is indeed pissed off at the medical treatment he got from Pittsburgh, he did afterall have to find his own specialist to diagnose the tissue problems in his neck. He is too classy to call out the Penguins for perhaps dropping the ball, but what if he plays out his last contract year just as Suter has done in Nashville. He then becomes an UFA.

      I am not saying it will happen, but he has reason to be disenchanted with Pittsburgh. Never mind the fact they shoved him back on the ice twice after the initial hit from Steckel. First the same game, and then a couple nights later. Seems to me, he has every right to be pissed at how they have handled him.

  34. Bill says:

    Bergevin is really creating a new organization in Montreal. He’s hiring quality people and creating some important new (to Montreal) positions. He obviously has a vision of what a top-notch NHL organization looks like and he’s already nearly done putting this one n place.

    The only hire of his I haven’t liked is the biggest one – Therrien – but after my initial disappointment I have come around a bit. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and by the time the Habs are seriously ready to contend it will be about time for a new coach anyway.

    Everything else he has done has been great!

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Cal says:

      Reluctant acceptance is seeping in on the Therrien hire.

    • habstrinifan says:

      The hire of Sylvan Lefedvre and Gallant and the process followed and also the curious 2nd assistant non-hire have totally mollified me re the Therrien hire.

    • JF says:

      I was also disappointed initially with the Therrien hiring. I had been hoping Bergevin would try something new; but I can understand his reluctance to do so, and I’ve come round to accepting Therrien as the best available experienced bilingual candidate. Habs fans have a tough time forgiving him for what happened in 2002, but I think he’s a much better coach than we give him credit for. If he hadn’t blown a fuse, he would almost certainly have taken that very bad Habs team to the Conference Final, perhaps to the Cup Final. This suggests he’s actually a very good coach, and his record in Junior supports this view. A person can learn and mature a lot in 10 years, and acquire better control over his emotions. When Maxim Talbot was asked recently about Therrien as the new Habs coach, he said that when Therrien took over in Pittsburgh, he was exactly what the Penguins needed. He dramatically improved their work ethic, and turned them from a soft team into one that was hard to play against.

      I think Therrien will do fine with the assistants he has chosen; and Bergevin has deepened the pool of coaching talent so that, when the time comes, there should be someone who can step in and replace him. Bergevin should be able to avoid having this successor poached by another team.

  35. sreuel says:

    This story was released early this morning. In town writers are are now posting it.

  36. habstrinifan says:

    Call me an odd-fellow but as I read all these coaching/management positions signing, the thought sprang to mind.

    Bergevin, properly so, seems to have left no stone unturned to recruit as many ex-habs with Quebec/Mtl connections.

    It’s very odd that Patrick Roy, in his press conference, after the MT signing gave all indication that there was very little real interest and maybe even less cordiality in his meetings with the HABS.

    I kinda wish that whatever reservations and whoever’s egos were involved could have been put aside and had been found for Roy to begin his NHL management career with MTL. In some position somewhere in the organizational chain.

    Don’t know whose the greater loss is. From where I stand it might be Roy’s, for Bergevin seems to be building a very comprehensive and varied but inter-working management team that would benefit the careers of many within.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I didn’t get the impression Roy was ready to start at the bottom of the food chain though? Kind of had the impression he either stays where he is or becomes head coach. Not dissing him, just saying how I read things.

  37. shiram says:

    Hockey player ridicule basketball players.
    Hilarity ensues

  38. That's-Hockey says:

    I’m not sure where we are going to aquire the players we need to be a playoff team except for training camp. it don’t make sense to get rid of Pleks or Gionta unless we can bring in players that’s better. when you look at it. all we need to be better is a #1 First line center, two wingers that’s better than we have now for the 3rd line and a center and a right winger that’s better than we have now for the 4th line problem solved as far as having a chance at making the playoffs. as for winning a cup unless a miracle happens. we’re a few years away….

    • TomNickle says:

      If Marc Bergevin thinks he can make the necessary moves for the team to get into the playoffs and be dangerous, veteran players probably won’t be traded.

      If he doesn’t feel that one off-season is enough to make those moves, they probably will be moved at some point in between now and the deadline next season.

  39. Mick says:

    I think he was just being professional.
    He is Sydney Crosby what do you expect him to say?
    He and the team gave up on Therrien and from what I was told, it sounds like Crosby would not becoming to Montreal under Therrien.
    But what do I know??? Just going on what I was told.
    I would love Crosby in Montreal and lets hope it happens.

  40. Hobie Hansen says:

    I heard a rumor from a reliable source that TomNickle will be hosting a draft party at his place on Friday night and will supply us with beer and food as long as we listen to his analysis on each pick. I’d be there! ;-)

    • Bill says:

      I would enjoy the beer, the food, and the analysis. As long as he doesn’t yell at me, I have a delicate constitution.

      Party on, Tom? :)

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • TomNickle says:

      Creative Hobie. A shot about my reply regarding Crosby, a shot about needing an audience and a shot about my opinions and how I deliver them.

      Very good.

      Now if you’re done trying to troll without so much as a hint of insight into anything hockey or Habs related, perhaps you could spare people who don’t respond well to attention craving cheap shots.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Ouch.

        “A shot about my reply regarding Crosby, a shot about needing an audience and a shot about my opinions and how I deliver them.”

        Not sure what that’s all about?

        You are strictly business Tom and I’m sorry for letting a wise crack slip in an attempt to make some of the regular posters have a chuckle. I wasn’t trying to insult you in the slightest and enjoy and respect all of your comments.

  41. frontenac1 says:

    Agreed Tom. I heard that Crosby was the first player to Call Mike to congratulate him on getting the job.

    • boing007 says:

      I heard that Crosby called him three days before the rest of us heard about it.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  42. commandant says:

    Larry Brooks says its likely that Prust won’t be signing in New York. I’d love to go after him.

    Go Habs Go!
    Visit Your NHL Draft Headquarters
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/05/31/last-word-nhl-draft-headquarters-directory/

    • shiram says:

      Sure would help out the bottom 6.

      • commandant says:

        His Girlfriend is from Montreal too.

        Go Habs Go!

        • shiram says:

          Wow and she gets the capital G too, must be an important girl! ;)

          I said offer him something like 7 millions over 3 years, does that sound like overpaying for him?
          Salaries have inflated so much recently, it’s hard to guess.

          • jmsheehy19 says:

            I wouldn’t think that’s an overpayment. As you said though it’s hard to gage. Last year seemed a little inflated, but this year is settng up to be insane.

            Considering the deals that have been made BEFORE the open market, I’ll be surprised if Parise and Suter get less than 8 million. Love both players, but that’s approaching Crosby and Malkin money.

            The GM’s once again need saving from themselves

          • commandant says:

            Saving from what… the league can only ever pay 56% of total hockey revenues to the players.

            If salaries are going up, its not cause the the GMs have gone crazy, its because hockey revenues keep going up and up and up…

            Inflation happens.

          • jmsheehy19 says:

            True, and my comment looks more barbed than I intended it.

            Just saying these salaries are getting out of control to the point that one of the points of the Cap (allowing small market teams to compete) is in jeopardy.

  43. commandant says:

    I know this is a hockey site, but one of our baseball writers, not me… put this up today. What a great story of overcoming tragedy and personal triumph.

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/06/20/talkofthetown/

    Go Habs Go!
    Visit Your NHL Draft Headquarters
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/05/31/last-word-nhl-draft-headquarters-directory/

  44. Rad says:

    That is too much to pay for Staal. Quick, let’s send Pleks over there!

  45. Rad says:

    Sure would like to see some roster moves too. Let’s go Marc!

  46. frontenac1 says:

    Solid organizational construction going on amigos! Now,there’s just this matter of of naming the 2nd asst.coach……..? Keep the Dream Alive for Big Bird!Hola!

  47. TomNickle says:

    If Sidney Crosby is looking for a new home or even entertaining the thought of it this management team sure is filling the organization with men who Crosby enjoys playing for.

    Donald Dufresne was his head coach with Rimouski during the QMJHL Championship season. He apparently enjoyed his time with Michel Therrien and Bergevin and Mario are pals.

    The speculation will go into overdrive soon.

    • shiram says:

      Let me add some kindling, as Ray Shero keeps saying he is not trading Staal, maybe he figures he’ll get better return on a more fragile player in Crosby.

      • TomNickle says:

        I also neglected to mention the strong friendship between Pat Brisson and Marc Bergevin.

      • ed lopaz says:

        did you hear what carolina has reportedly offered for jordan staal?

        Sutter, faulk, 8th pick overall, and paying Martin’s salary??

        just heard it on TSN.

        is this old news?

        • TomNickle says:

          I thought I read that Faulk was a road block in the negotiations but I could have read it wrong.

          • ed lopaz says:

            what could we get for plekanec??

            sorry shiram, but I have to ask!!

            reply to tom below, yes, me too.

            I have never seen less talent available as UFA forwards

            that’s why dubinsky has been put on the mrket, because there is no supply to meet the demand.

            also, carolina’s 8th pick in first round gets you radek faksa, who I believe could be a terrific NHL player.

            .

          • TomNickle says:

            I think you can get a 1st, great prospect and a mid-late round pick.

            I’m sorry but I would do it.

          • shiram says:

            Hehe no need to apologize, Tom and Ed.

          • jon514 says:

            “I think you can get a 1st, great prospect and a mid-late round pick.” for Plek?

            That would be acceptable… not that I want to see him go, but to me that would say we are in “full re-build” mode instead of in “tweak” mode. The prospect would need to be a big forward and around the same place in his development as Beaulieu and Tinordi.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          When you say pay Martin’s salary, you mean getting Paul Martin from the Penguins correct? Didn’t realize till I looked on capgeek what a contract he has.

        • HFX-HabFan says:

          Unlike baseball, I don’t think NHL teams are allowed to pay money on a player’s contract once they trade that player to another team.

          (Baseball examples: Cubs agreeing to “eat” most of Zambrano’s salary, Pirates agreeing to Burnett trade only if the Yankees paid a portion of his remaining contract)

          • shiram says:

            I just think its meant to be a salary dump, basically they take Martin just so Penguins don’t have to pay him anymore.

    • jon514 says:

      I can’t imagine a situation where they wouldn’t want to sign him in Pittsburgh. I can’t imagine a situation where this Sid would give up his captaincy and let down an entire city like that. That being said, if Malkin has really surpassed Crosby on the depth chart, maybe they just can’t afford them both and Malkin HAS been more consistent.

    • habsfan0 says:

      When you look at all the variables, Crosby signing with the Habs(his boyhood favourite team) might not be as farfetched as it seems. However his health status HAS to be a concern to whomever eventually signs him.

      Still not sure if he was concussed or was it some other injury?

    • Mick says:

      Crosby hates Therrien .
      Enough said!

      • TomNickle says:

        You are a very uninformed individual.

      • TomNickle says:

        Perhaps you should do a bit of reading about their relationship.

        • Mick says:

          I have solid info that he said those very words to someone in LA when it was announced Therrrien was hired. The person who told me spoke to the person Crosby said it too.
          It could be wrong but….

          • TomNickle says:

            Solid info huh?

            That Crosby “hates Therrien”. He sure has a funny way of showing it. By attributing their Stanley Cup victory to the foundation that Therrien in Crosby’s words laid down for the Penguins.

            Also funny that Crosby would call Therrien to congratulate him on getting the Habs job.

            I’ll go with that “solid info”.

          • habsfan0 says:

            Maybe Pierre McGuire was the source of this “solid info”.

  48. gordon bombay says:

    Solid Hires!

    Next Hire = Niklas Lidstrom as the defensive coach of the Habs.

  49. jon514 says:

    Any idea how much an assistant coach or a pro scout cost? Seems to me Molson must have increased the scouting budget by about 5 million (not enough to pay the guys, you’ve gotta pay their expenses too) and the coaching/player development budget by about 3 million. If 8 million is all it costs to take this organization that has profits of over 100 million to the next level, I’m surprised previous owners neglected to do it.

  50. wildwilly says:

    Second!

    I think it’s not so much the new GM spending so much money off-ice as the old GM not investing enough. When Gauthier was in charge he said “You can accomplish the same result by just watching videos”.

    When he made the comment I didn’t realize the result was last place! I hope the additions make a postitive impact.

  51. ed lopaz says:

    first!! and foremost, Molson is committed to winning and so are we fans.

    Dufresne was a very average defenceman, not exactly Robinson.

    But hey, maybe he’s a great communicator!
    .

    • Cal says:

      Great to see all the off-ice personnel. The Habs have begun investing big time in scouting and player development and that’s good news for Hab fans.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      As others have said before, seems many of the better coaches were average players who had to really work hard and learn the nuances of the game in order to stay in the game professionally.

      I like that he has pretty much been Asst. Coaching, Head Coaching and Asst. GM’ing since he retired. Shows he is serious about where he wants his coaching career to go.


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