Desperate Canadiens face hungry Bruins

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Boston lost 3-0 on home ice to the Rangers Tuesday night.
The Bruins will be angrier than Randy Ladouceur was at Scott Gomez when they face the Canadiens at the Bell Centre Wednesday evening.
Buffalo, Tampa Bay, the Jets and Leafs were all Tuesday losers. But the Islanders won to slip past the Canadiens into 11th place in the Eastern Conference.

Gomez gets into it with Ladouceur at Tuesday practice

Pat Hickey on David Desharnais

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Gallagher gets hat trick, sets Vancouver Giants record

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Wings extend home streak

Heat is on in Chicago

Will Flyers be sellers?

369 Comments

  1. ron181 says:

    slovakhab , if that is your definition of a power forward then 80% of the forwards would be power forwards. Yes, he goes to the dirty areas but he has to be ready to drop the gloves and be successful in that regard as well and score at least 20 goals . Iginla, Shanahan , Terry O’Reilly , Al Secord are prime examples. Jaimie Benn is up there too as is Lucic. A player like Gaustad isn’t. By the way , Lucic last 4 bouts have been against Carkner, Sestito and Gaustad [and Kaleta] and did quite well against all of them.

  2. homerbowen says:

    All this Gomez talk gets my blood boiling so here goes with him and others;
    No other team will pick up Gomez with his contract and buying him out may save the owners some cash but handicap the organization for a few more years with the cap hit, so no question here, he goes to Hamilton. It was done with Redden ,Surrey and Finger that I cajn think of so no reason for Gomez not to go down.
    Every effort should be made to move Kaberle at the deadline or for sure during the summer.
    Gill should surely find a new home by the deadline.
    AK and Moen at the deadline only if a good return otherwise sign for as little as possible and look to move them at a later date.

  3. HNS says:

    Angry Booins???? It’s the Habs that should be angry for a shitty disappointing season. Please.

  4. manu07 says:

    Sorry to bust in the chat. Just got home and read that AK and Gomez are game time decisions…any news? Trade?

  5. ron181 says:

    re: dorvaltony , The definition of a power forward is one who can score a lot and also fights frequently and wins most of them , like Lucic does. I don’t think Maxpacs , Cole and Cavalier quite fall into that category .

    • DorvalTony says:

      Luchicken, with respect, doesn’t fight so much as bullies smaller players and/or big softies like Komisarek. Was that “power” to run Ryan Miller?

      All the guys I named are physical and good offensively. That’s a power forward. My point was and is that the other 3 all have more points than Luchicken, the supposed master of his domain on the Stanley Cup champeens.

    • SlovakHab says:

      And where did you read that definition? In Don Cherry’s dictionary?
      Power forward has nothing to do with fighting – it is a physical forward that goes to dirty areas, screens the goalie, outpowers opposing defenders to get through them, hits often… Usually it is a forward with good size. Ovechkin is a prototype, although he is a sniper as well, thanks to his wicked shot. That’s why is an elite player, although for some reason unknown to me, has fallen from the very top.

    • solomio says:

      181 wow, are you off!

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  6. habinkam says:

    no wonder Milbury is such an air head thanks Larry
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITJyVfiDKQc

  7. The Jackal says:

    While Gomez doesn’t contribute much offensively, its silly to say he doesn’t do anything for the team, and even sillier to say that is a fact. Gomez tries hard, he’s a team guy, and a professional and those are things that are reflected by his attitude and that of the team. If he really didn’t try hard or contribute in any way then why do his teammates like him? If he was a complete drag he’d be resented by the team, not liked. Also, the man has never said anything bad about the team or Montreal or the fans, even though a lot of them like to piss on him.
    Take another look, the guy tries, the team has faith in him, and while he is not contributing hard numbers right now he contributes in many ways that are not as valued as they should be.
    Sure, looking back the trade was not the best move, but it did attract a lot of players that changed the culture in the room and resulted in 2 strong playoffs. Now because of one bad season, even though we can still make the playoffs, alot of people are turning on the team.

    • solomio says:

      One bad season ? Are you nuts? He has nothing more to offer. His career is over and he really should retire as opposed to putting the Habs thru this misery. I’m thinking that upon notification prior to the beginning next season that he will be playing in Hamilton, he will retire.

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  8. sheds88 says:

    If Management ends up eating a ton of cash this off-season to bury gomez, how can molson possibly keep gainey on board ???

    _______________________________________________________________________
    i don’t know why they keep comparing Carey Price to God………i mean he’s good, but he’s no Carey Price.

  9. DorvalTony says:

    Stu Cowan write that Lucic is the top rated power forward in the NHL. Here are eye opening ’11-’12 stats – in addition please note that Lecavalier had 17 points in January.

    Vinny Lecavalier 21G 24A 45 Pts
    Max Pacioretty 23G 20A 43 Pts
    Eric Cole 21G 21A 42 Pts
    Luchicken 20G 21A 41 Pts.

    Just sayin’…

    • SteverenO says:

      Where is Ben Maxwell on that list. He’s the guy we drafted immediately in front of Lucic. Amazing to consider how a few huge mistake could impact the team for years.

      Imagine: Lucic in place of Maxwell.
      Imagine: McDonough and no Gomez (plus an extra $7million of cap space)
      Imagine: Aaron Asham for under $1 million instead of George Laraque
      Imagine : A PowerPlay without Gomez
      Imagine: A coach who has the guts to bench the non-producers and NOT bring them back to play on the PowerPlay in the 3rd period.

      I was out of town and did not get to listen to local radio the last few days, did anyone ask the coach why Gomez, despite being benched, saw the most PP time of the entire roster in the third period?

      regards,
      Steve O.

    • HNS says:

      Consider the source.

  10. gK_HabsFan says:

    A quick question…

    When Montreal traded McDonagh, did the Habs FO imply that he was not developing into the type of player they wanted him to be??

    I’m not sure, It feels like I heard this somewhere….

  11. Hobie Hansen says:

    Any news from the morning skate? Moen in the lineup?

    • shiram says:

      I can’t find any info, are they even practicing today?
      I think the Bruins did not practice.

    • savethepuck says:

      Last game he was listed as doubtful and didn’t play, today he has been upgraded to questionable for tonights game, which means he’s close.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  12. New says:

    Ever wonder about the Gomez trade? No, not that way. Ever wonder that Gainey or any of the hockey people would take on Gomez salary against his record with NY? Ever wonder if the decision wasn’t made outside the hockey department and they take the responsibility? Ever wonder how a previous owner with an objective of making money and flipping investments managed to stay above all this?

    NewYork is very, very, important to the NHL. Ever wonder if the CBA can be circumvented if you are important to the NHL?

    The reason I wonder crap like this is that I can not see anyone in their right mind taking on Gomez unless there was an advantage of some sort. Not then, not now. On ice performance isn’t it. Is money or some other consideration – such as preservation of market terrority – the reason Gomez was taken by Montreal about the same time struggling teams began to explore relocation options like Quebec city?

    There’s a fun thought for all the keen HIO conspiracy theorists. Probably just what it seems though – a dumb trade that saddles the organization with a continuing loss while allowing NY to improve then, and now.

    • 123456 says:

      i really think habs mgmt thought gomex would be productive – a little over paid yes but still very productive…. you know this is supposed to be “the new NHL”. at the time cammy and gionta were added – two guys that can score – why not add one of hte best set-up men?? and hte habs were giving up a prospect “supposedly neve to be a top dman” and higgins (was it higgns) who is not that good.

    • SPATS says:

      The timing of the Gomez trade suggests otherwise. Gio, Cammy, Gill, Spacek, Moen were all signed a day or so after the trade was announced. The sales pitch was likely “Look, we want winners, that’s why we picked up Stanley Cup Champion Gomez” The ink wasn’t dry on the paperwork for the trade before the rest of em all jumped on board because of the ridiculous money and terms being thrown at them. Gomer was acquired just after Jacques Martin as well. It showed the Habs were serious about changing the culture in the room, and there were respectable (at the time) minds doing the acquiring. Anybody would’ve signed on at that point, especially knowing there would likley be no better offers. I imagine the thinking among the other UFA’s that day was “They’re taking on Gomer’s contract? I better sign with them while I can… ”

      The road to hell is paved in good intentions

      OOH AAH – HABS ON THE WARPATH!

  13. Brazhabs says:

    Colborne is supposedly expendable in Toronto. Big, young centre/winger with plenty of upside. has fared well in his limited NHL career. Leafs say they want to get bigger up front, I say we unload Kostitsyn for Colborne and a 3rd.

  14. 123456 says:

    All this tank/trade/resign this guy for that talk is potentially interesting . . . .

    Why not think outside the box and become seller sand buyers before the deadline.

    Would anyone want Ruutu? If so go after him, ask that he sign and be traded and give up what we need to get him. Habs could do the same with AK46 – sign him and then move him. Too many teams trade at the deadline for the remainder of this season – I would trade for the future. This is a business – dont worry about hurting players feelings. Do what needs to be done to make the team better for the next couple seasons

  15. shiram says:

    Lotsa stuff coming from AK this morning, reported Guillaume Lefrancois’s twitter.
    I tried my best to keep the meaning, but it’s a translation from a translation…

    Ak : It’s tough to be on the bench, you watch the game and you are told you are going to be next, but i,M freezing on the bench.
    Maybe the coach thinks I’m the only one to lose the puck, maybe that’s why he keeps me on the bench. I want to play in MTL, but I need more ice time. The coach wants me to dump it behind the defense, so I can play in their zone, I tried that last game, but I’m still on the bench.

    AK is supposedly thinking about requesting a trade.
    RC says AK needs to play better.

    • Propwash says:

      Somebody below mentioned entitlement. AK got benched for a good reason, he’s been screwing up bigtime. It’s called cause and effect.
      Suck it up Andrei, when you hit the ice, play your arse off, get results, and you’ll get your ice time.

      _____________________________
      Don’t let the wultures getcha.

  16. LafleurGuy says:

    Ryan O’Byrne has 1G 6A and 41 PM in 57 games this year. I just broke out in a cold sweat picturing this to be Jared Tinordi in about 5 years. Too bad classy Hal Gill is near the end of his career and won’t play alongside Tinordi in the future. Hal Gill is a role model for immobile large defencemen.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  17. Phil C says:

    Just saw Cunneyworth on Sportscentre: when asked about Gomez, he said something like we can’t afford to have one passenger, no matter who it is…

    I just have to say it is quite refreshing to see accountability in the Habs locker room again after the JM era. The young guys have to be loving getting a shot and being rewarded for hard play.

    The drill Gomez screwed up seemed to be a driving the net drill, which is his biggest problem. I am not surprised the coaches lost it a little bit. Here is a player who used to be successful by taking the puck to the net with speed and creating chaos, but has stopped doing it. They design a drill that will benefit him more than anyone and he screws it up!! I would LOSE IT!!

    • ed lopaz says:

      Phil, I could not agree more. There is a battle between “accountability” and “entitlement” and in order for any team to be successful the accountability side MUST win out.

      Cammy felt entitled; Gomez feels entitled and AK 46 as well.

      Whether or not the Habs win, the coach must stand his ground on this.

      AK 46, suggesting that he should get “more ice” after giving away the puck on 3 consecutive shifts??

      This is the logic of a man who does not care about the team or his teammates.

      When Subban screwed up, he told everyone how bad he felt letting down his team.

      When Price screwed up he told everyone he needed to play better.

      These are leaders in the making.

      Gomez and AK46 either need a heart transplant or they need to be removed from this team ASAP.

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  18. habsperspective says:

    Two things on the top of my list of things that are bothering me today. Hockey list also, I have many gripe lists. F&%$

    Washingtons road record. 9-15-3, but yet we lose twice to them in the last month, and shutout. 25% of there seasons road wins have come against us. That is 8 points that haunt you!

    And, like I said last night. The missed opportunity at being within 5 points of 8th as of today. That short handed goal. Whoever screwed up, whatever. Price has to be better in those pressure situations, period. Hes the final line of defence.

    8, 9, & 10th are all available. 50 points remain in the bank, a little more then 2/3 required.

    Im not into this tanking philosophy. Its gay, other teams wanna be labeled that way, great. But it doesnt blend with the HABS legacy.

    I would sooner this team finish tied for 9th, and know they competed in the end, then relegated to some “if you cant beat them, join them” belief.

  19. LafleurGuy says:

    Re: Upgrading for next year.
    Don’t have a copy of Hockey News Future Watch but I’m going to read up on the top prospects on other teams. If significant trades are going to be made, it would be nice to have NHL-ready players come our way, e.g. Lars Eller. Patrick Holland is not NHL-ready. Drafting a blue-chipper can get a lot of you excited, but are you patient enough to wait for 2015-16 (see Taylor Hall, Tyler Sequin)? It will have little chance of impacting next year’s team. Here’s hoping we get another Lars Eller type.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  20. el heffe says:

    I’m not sure if 5 hat tricks in a single season is a CHL record but Gallagher just did it on Valentine’s Day. 34 goals in 40 games. And all we can talk about is Scott freaking Gomez

    Charge it to the Underhill’s.

    • G-Man says:

      Juniors scoring hat tricks are a dime a dozen. Last I saw, Gallagher was another tiny tot who couldn’t score in the pre-season against AHLers and other juniors.

      Actually, I am hoping he gets traded for a fast-skating, larger forward.

  21. joeybarrie says:

    Looking at next years cap. We will need to sign 10 players. 8 of which we will probably re-sign.
    Price, PK, Eller, AK, White, Emelin, Diaz, and Darche.
    How much do they go for each?
    We have 20 million to spend.
    Price 5. PK 4. AK 4. Eller 2.25. Emelin 1. Diaz 1. White .850. Darche .750.
    Leaving us with nothing to sign 2 players.
    To me they have to find a way to unload Gomez. (putting him in the AHL is not an option in my opinion)
    Any other options?
    I like Kaberle and he is leading our D in scoring so I would like to see him stay. Markov, PK, Gorges, Kaberle, make a good top 4. Weber and Diaz are doing well, we need to replace Gill with someone who has similar traits, and is faster.
    Thoughts?

    • habs03 says:

      Gomez really has no spot on this team, no where to put him, so if he isn’t sent to the AHL or Europe, he will be bought-out.

      With that, and resining all our key guys, we would have about 7-8M+ wtv the cap goes up by.

      You can extra try to sign another top 6 forward Ruutu, and another top 4D-men in a guy like Jackman, or Allen.

      Ton of cap space, and more to upgrade, that is why I find it stupid that ppl how Kaberle and his 4.25M are ruining our cap for next year.

      • G-Man says:

        http://capgeek.com/buyout_calculator.php?player_id=624

        Gomez buyout numbers. Either the hit at 7.357mil is gone in 2014 or it gets extended at a reduced rate until 2016.

      • smiler2729 says:

        You’re right, he’s a top 6 guy and a center, useless on the wing and out of his element as 3rd or 4th liner.

        There’s almost no way he gets traded (there needs to be a team needing to get to the cap floor and actually wanting a top 6 center, plus there’s a new CBA coming next year so the rules are changing) and Redden-ing him to the AHL is bad PR if you’re trying make Montreal a favourible destination for players soooooo expect him to be bought out at season’s end.

        The guy was doomed here as he was in New York cuz of that contract…

        __________________________________
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    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I believe PK will get a lot less – something like $2M (for comparison, MaxPac drafted in the same year gets 1.625 next year).

      I don’t know how much AK will get but it will count against another club’s cap.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • gK_HabsFan says:

        I think he will get near 3-3.5. His agent can argue that he is the most utilized player on the team.
        The way i see it, if he gets a $3 million, he and his agent will agree to a short-term contract (1 or 2 years), because everyone know PK can do much better statistically.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Who compares to PK?

          Erik Johnson was drafted a year before PK. He is the only comparable d-man from 2006 (bad year for d-men – the next best defender from that draft is Andrew MacDonald).

          Johnson signed last year for a cap hit of $2.6M

          That puts an upper bound on what PK can expect. (Recall that Johson was a number one overall draft pick.)

          I can’t see an arbitrator giving PK more than Johnson – or even giving him as much.


          Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

          • gK_HabsFan says:

            I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you.

            Eric Jonhson, despite being the 1st overall pick, has not lived up to the hype.

            In addition, since the Jonhson signing, the Salary cap has gone up by roughly $7 Million dollars. This tends to inflate player contracts, which is why i beleive Subban will definitely get more than $2.6 Million

    • shiram says:

      Emelin might command a bigger salary, yeah he is a rookie and on an entry deal, but he made alot of money in the KHL.
      Let’s hope he likes it here and wants to stay a while.

    • mb says:

      Apparently AK stated that he might ask for a trade if he doesn’t get more ice time in the next few games. So as HFS72 wrote, his salary maybe won’t count against the Habs cap.

      As for Emelin and Eller, I think they’ll get more money than what you proposed.

      • shiram says:

        Source?
        He was quoted as saying he wanted to stay in MTL and even said he’d take a home town discount.

        • mb says:

          He talked about the hometown discount a couple of weeks ago, his ice time rant is from this morning.

          Many reports on twitter, for what it’s worth:

          Luc Gelinas @LucGelinas
          Reply Retweet Favorite Open
          A. Kostitsyn: “Je suis heureux ici mais je dois avoir + de glace. Je gèle sur le banc. Je me donne qq matchs pour voir si je veux partir.”

          Louis Jean @SNLouisJean
          Reply Retweet Favorite Open
          Asked Kostitsyn if he has or will ask for a trade. Answer: “we’ll see what happens in the next few games.” #Canadiens

          I think he’s pissed about the “bench time” he got last game.

          • shiram says:

            Ok thanks for that.

          • Mike D says:

            Amazing. The guy has been with our organization for almost 9 years (2003 draft) and when asked if he wants out or not, it comes down to the next few games.

            So strange, it’s funny. I guess things can change just that quickly when you get benched.

            – Honestly yours

    • SmartDog says:

      I think you’re low on Eller ($2.75?), Emelin ($2.25?), Diaz ($1.5?) with my guesses in brackets, and maybe a bit high on PK for the year he’s had. Could be a small blessing there.

      I also think the way Montreal does contracts, Price will get more. He hasn’t had a great year so that again is a positive when it comes to his next deal, but realizing what Montreal sees in him and wants from him, to look him down for more than a year or two they’ll need to pay him closer to what he MAY be worth down the road – 5.5? 5.75? Just my guesses, but you’re right – a lot of signing to do. It would be good to see some of it happen soon.

      Kaberle… argh. Wish we could dump that guy. The only good thing about him is he makes Campoli look tough.

      ————————————-
      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • sheds88 says:

      remove weber and insert emelin

      _______________________________________________________________________
      i don’t know why they keep comparing Carey Price to God………i mean he’s good, but he’s no Carey Price.

    • solomio says:

      You’re going to resign Darche? Are you nuts? Habs will definitely not offer AK a raise but prolly cut his pay. Weber ? No way.He could bring something worthwhile in terms of picks. We have to replace Gill with something a lot better.
      I agree Kaberle can raise his level and be more of an asset next year.

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  22. rated_R says:

    As badly as ppl want for the Habs to tank, and say WE have to tank, these are professional athletes and they have they’re pride and jobs at stake. We can’t control how they’re going to perform, even if we trade the players who are UFA at the end of the season. This aint nhl 12, you dont control jack shheeeeeet. Just let it be and let’s see where this team goes.

    • gK_HabsFan says:

      Well, you do control who plays.
      You trade Gill and Moen: Increases Goals and the PK wouldn’t be as good
      Trade AK46: Scoring decreases
      Play Budaj more…..

  23. HabinBurlington says:

    Given the headline of today’s thread is Gomez, perhaps we could discuss him a little. Having read through the previous comments there is nary a word about him. Perhaps we could revisit the Gomez trade in its entirety. I think doing this will only help us feel better about the Habs thus making the team play better. Then tomorrow we can review another trade, perhaps the Rod Langway trade. :)

  24. gK_HabsFan says:

    Alright folks, I am a pretty passionate fan but we need to forget about this season and get an elite level prospect. We are currently sitting at 24th in the NHL with 57 GP. The Ducks, Lightning and Sabres are ranked 25th, 26th and 27th respectively. They are all within 1 point behind us with games in hand. Let’s face it, we’re 7 points out of a playoff spot with many teams in between, the likelihood of making the playoffs are close to nil.

    I feel that if our playoff chances are close to zero, we might as well benefit from the system and get a good player in the draft.

    Now, we may not finish 30th or 29th in the league, however, because there are so many injured prospects this year, it may enable us to pick up an elite level player with the 3th, 4th or even 5th pick.

    The way the standings are as of now, it seems like the Blue Jackets and Oilers are likely to go 1 and 2 in the draft.

    Columbus has had horrendous experiences with russian players in the past, however, it is likely they will select Nail Yakupov (Considered to be the best player in the draft)

    The Oilers have an abundance of forwards. Therefore, it would be stupid of them not to select a defenseman. The likes of Dumba or Murray.

    Therefore, if we fall into the 3rd, 4th or 5th slot, we can potentially pick up that Big first line center we have been looking for over the past 2 decades.

    The available Forwards at this point in the draft would be:
    1) Grigorenko
    2) Galchenyuk
    3) Forsberg

    The Importance of Tanking This Season:

    The Habs have the fundamental pieces in place. Our core is is made up of great young talent with veterans that complements them. Over the past 10 years, Montreal has had only one lottery pick in Carey Price (Due to the lockout). That pick has proven to be huge for us, and I can safely say without much debate that Price is the team’s best player and the Franchise at this moment. Hence, I would trust Trevor Timmins to find a gem with a top 5 pick.

    With the current roster, I believe we can sacrifice this season and bounce right back up the next season with a couple of adjustments, and an elite level prospect. I’d rather flush this season down the toilet and get a future potential star then always finish between 6th and 10th in the eastern conference.

    Many of the top teams this current year have benefited from lottery picks.

    Penguins: Crosby and Malkin
    Boston: Tyler Seguin (He might not be the reason they are where they are in standings, but he’s going to be a great player for Boston for many years)
    Chicago: Toews and Kane

    Now you may argue that Detroit has been able to win consistently without tanking. The thing with Detroit is that they are management superbly. Their foundation was set in the 80’s when they drafted Yzerman (4th overall), Lidstrom, Fedorov, Primeau and so on.
    As for the Rangers, it’s easy for them to attract free agents, because it is NYC after all.

    All in all, forget about this season. Draft wisely, make a few adjustments (Gomer and Kaberle) and we are set!

    • DearyLeary says:

      Detroit hit the jackpot with Lidstrom, Datsyuk, and Zetterberg. They have good amateur and pro scouting. It’s infinitely more difficult to find players of their calibre later in the draft.

      For the first time since the lockout we’ve got a good youth core (in Price, PK, Patches, and Eller, along with some promising prospects in Beaulieu, Tinordi, and Gallagher) and some key veterans locked to some term (in Plekanec, Gionta, Cole, and Gorges). Add top notch offensive player (along the lines of a Grigorenko) and we’ve got a really strong core that we can build around for a long time.

      I agree. Maximize assets in Gill, Moen, and Kostitsyn and build towards a sustained run of playoffs with the youth taking a bigger role every year.

      • gK_HabsFan says:

        Exactly!

        It’s getting frustrating to see a middle of the pack team year after year.
        During training camp, I don’t want to ask my self
        “Is this team good enough to make the playoffs?”
        I’d rather “Is this team good enough to win the cup?”

  25. Roy93 says:

    Oh boy the Leaf fans this morning on the Fan590 were in an uproar lol. They got their panty’s in a knot. Their feeling the pressure from last nights Flame loss. Many believe the Habs will jump over them and into 8th. They want Rick Nash and are willing to give up the farm to get him. I believe we are 1 centre away from a serious contender.
    I say let’s do it boys kick some Leaf @ss!

    • sanman_11 says:

      Just shows how much that Carolina loss hurt us. I think the Leafs are in freefall. Goal tending is terrible and now the offense is sputtering. Kessel or Lupol gets injured and its over here in Leaf town!

      That could take the sting out of us not making it. Although I would like to sneak in and push them out!!

      I’m a HABS fan not a Leaf blower.

    • DearyLeary says:

      We’re closer to last place than we are a playoff spot. We should maximize some assets and retool for next season. People thinking otherwise sound like those very same Leaf fans freaking out about finishing 9th every year and how close they are to making the playoffs.

      Gill, Kostitsyn, and Moen are some attractive assets to teams who all think they can make the playoffs this year. There is some strong elite scoring talent in the draft, and we’d be smart to try to capitalize on grabbing some.

      • G-Man says:

        F*** losing. Just win.

        • DearyLeary says:

          I want to win a Stanley Cup. Name me the last 8th seed that won a Stanley Cup?

          The Leafs’ road to mediocrity is because they pretty much laughed off the draft for the last few decades (as it became increasingly important to draft well). If we squander a chance to gain some high end talent, only to come up short in a playoff run that won’t land us anywhere closer to a Stanley Cup, then fine, you ‘win’, I’d rather lose short-term, and build towards a Stanley Cup, the only wins that matter.

          • G-Man says:

            I guess all the 8th and 7th and 6th seeds may as well not show up for any playoff games, then. Drafting in the top 3 doesn’t guarantee sh*t. This “let’s lose short-term” is what they’ve been doing in Edmonton since 2006. I sure as hell don’t want that. The team as it is is not as horrible that many here say.

          • nunacanadien says:

            The Edmonton Oilers were the last 8th place team, in fact they were the worst team in the NHL in 2005/06 when they played another 8th place team, the Hurricanes who won the cup. There is still hope.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        It’s easy to say we’re 2 points away from last in the East, but in reality there are, what, 5 teams that have around 55 points – ~33% of the conference right there. And Winnipeg is at 58pts while Toronto is crumbling. Just shows how tight the bottom tier is.

        By the end of the season, a single win or loss could mean the difference between a top 5 pick and the 10th pick.

    • Habitall says:

      Last I heard was there was interest on Philly’s part in trading Van Remsdyk for Luke Schenn. Methinks that would be a nice win for the Leafs. Would Philly really make that trade?

  26. HabFanSince72 says:

    A fair number of posters are obsessed with size and rigidity. There is no need to be a Freudian to understand the meaning of statements like:

    “Diaz, Weber are soft and small.”

    “We are too soft”

    “Player X is softer than marshmallow”

    “We need to get bigger.”

    “He’s young and big and he hits hard.”

    One poster even refers to himself as “hard” in his username.

    These posters tend to dislike Don Cherry because he supports our two biggest foes, but otherwise they are in complete agreement with the Grand Old Dame of Canadian Hockey. Again, no need for Viennese psychoanalysis to understand Mr Cherry.

    The question is this:given their disappointment with our Habs, is there something other than hockey that these people could watch for pleasure? A video entertainment where the young men are neither soft nor small. Where bigger is not only better, it’s the only thing. Something preferably freely available on the Internet?


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • Mattyleg says:

      …World’s Strongest Man competition?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • shiram says:

      And people were complaining about the size of Kaberle’s stick yesterday.

    • sanman_11 says:

      I think the pendulum has swung too far to the ‘big’ side. We are the 10th biggest team in the league at an average size of 6’1 205 lbs I believe. The young guys like Eller, Leblanc, are going to get heavier. It’s not all about vertical size especially when you think about the ‘leaning on’ factor of the playoffs. What we need are guys that are capable of getting leaned on and leaning on opposing players for 7 game stretches over 15 nights in the playoffs. So they don’t all have to be huge. I’m a believer in having a distribution of size, speed, skill, and toughness. When you look at it through that lens I say we need one nastier Dman, and one to two grittier forwards, plus the big power centre.

      I’m a HABS fan not a Leaf blower.

      • nunacanadien says:

        I disagree. We are lopsided still. Short and tall, and there is no average on this team. Either we are too big, too slow, or too short and small. Gauthier has parralell parked us into a wedge. Into a weird shaped wedge where getting rid of almost the whole Defense will only cure the mess he has made defensively, including Price. We need to clear out our defense. We need to be big at the front all the way. Enough of this tall and short mixture. We need conformity and the boys need to feel comfortable with each other.

    • punkster says:

      Game of Thrones on HBO. The most startling, intelligent, willful and powerful character of the series is Tyrion Lannister, a small man with a big…er…heart.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OpWY3K4DN8

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • SmartDog says:

      Sumo wrestling maybe?

      ————————————-
      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  27. habs17 says:

    another terrible move by p.g sending schultz back down

    I support Scott Gomez

    • stevieray says:

      I like White ..but he’s no heavyweight so I hope he doesn’t think he needs to accept a invitataion to dance with Thornton or Lushit …especially with Gomez there to protect his back …
      BUT…he could knock Marchand on his ass …

      • powdered toastmann says:

        I like White too but the kid was listed at only 6′ 0″, 188 Ibs. Totally unreasonalble to label him Habs “go to” tough guy and send him out against 220-230 Ib experienced tough guys like Lucic, Thornton etc. etc.

        He plays/fights bigger than he is, but you’re right, don’t throw him to the dogs…let him handle the rats (Marchand is only a few ibs lighter than White) and the light-middleweights.

  28. smiler2729 says:

    And why is Ian Schultz not here to face the Bruins tonight???

    Just about sums up the Ghost perfectly, eh…

    He picks up Petteri Nokalainen (a 2004 16th overall pick of the Isles) and passes on Colton Gillies (a 2007 16th overall pick of the Wild), one’s a soft European type that brings nothing to the team and one’s a 6’4″ brute that, if nothing else, brings a menacing presence to a team in need of someone to create space for it’s offensive types…

    Great vison, Goats, just great…

    NO TEAM fears playing the Habs.

    __________________________________
    Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Why didn’t white or Schultz play last game? Will White even be in the line up tonight?

      • shiram says:

        White will be in the lineup tonight, RC said so.
        They did not play on monday because they had played 3 games in 3 days on the preceding week-end.

        I’m more interested in seeing if RC will bench Gomez or Kostitsyn.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          Good to hear he will be in. Regardless of the three games in three nights I would have bet he would have had the energy as it was his first three games this season. It will be nice to see him out there tonight

          • shiram says:

            RC also said he did not want to change a winning lineup.
            But yea I’m sure White would have been fired up anyways.

      • Phil C says:

        RC said in a interview that Shultz was brought up because they were not sure everyone was ready to go for the last game, so they wanted to have him ready just in case.

        White was just returning from his conditioning assignment in Hamilton so that was a routine call up. He is on a one-way contract, so he has always been a part of the plan for this year.

      • sanman_11 says:

        Schultz is not NHL ready. Last thing we need is our 4th line giving up a goal to their 4th line.

        With Gionta, Blunden, Moen, Webber, and Nokelianen out and sending Shultz down I think they have to play Gomez and AK to fill four lines…

        I’m a HABS fan not a Leaf blower.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Ian Schultz is probably not ready for the NHL. He seems to be marginal at the AHL level though he may be improving.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Plus, we dress Schultz, and the Bruins get the idea that we want to mix it up. Apart from Schultz and White, we have no other fighters. Let’s say that Schultz takes on Thornton (loss) and White takes on Lucic (loss). That still leaves plenty of other thugs to rattle our cages.

        Let’s just play our game and leave the bruising to the cavemen.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Schutlz is a grinder in both NHL and AHL. he is like a Moen type. PK guy who bangs and crashes and has some hands. Nothing more than a bottom 6 guy who can help on the PK.

        He does work his butt off. Kind of like a Blunden typed guy

    • powdered toastmann says:

      In response to smiler-guy..This has always been the way the Goat operates.

  29. Mattyleg says:

    You know, as bad as people think we’re doing, none of the teams between the 12th and 7th spots are doing particularly marvellously either.
    Near the beginning of the season, I said that the only thing that matters is that we hit the playoff run on an upswing. We seem to be doing that (last game excepted), because overall our team seems to be coming together and playing for each other.

    For me, I’d much rather be pushing up from 12th place with a late-season surge, than piddling along and hanging on to a playoff spot because of early-season points.

    Because of the idiotic way that the conferences are designed, there are only 6 spots that 12 teams are trying to get. Whoever designed that system should be given a Nobel Prize for Being Such A Clever Bureaucrat.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Cardiac says:

      +1

      Makes no sense when the #3 seed has less points than the #4 and #5 seed.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

    • Vladdy Mondavi says:

      Agreed, I thought they had it corrected with the realignment, but the NHLPA shot it down, so it’s not just the Bureaucrats that deserve the Nobel Prize.

      _______________________________
      Opinions are like kittens, I’m giving them away.

      • Mattyleg says:

        I love that realignment.
        The NHLPA just wanted to have some cards in their pocket when they went in for negotiations. I can see that realignment happening, but it will only come once the NHLPA gets the deal it wants.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • RetroMikey says:

      -1
      Always the optimistic fan…pray and hope we can play better hockey the last couple of months, eke into a playoff position, be happy as Gumby and Pokey if we get eliminated in the 1st or 2nd round and say “better luck next year” or “if only we had Markov or Gionta playing….”
      Sorry to disappoint you and others but we really are not a good hockey team, period.
      Tank I say! Tank!
      “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  30. LesHabs says:

    I’m likeing the line of Kostitsyn-Gomez-White .

    Three hungry guys.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      That is if they let White play. They bring him up to sit in the press box while Paulisj is on the ice….makes sense to me

      • jmsheehy19 says:

        Well he had played 3 games in 3 nights right? Coming off an injury. And as I posted lower down. Palushaj did not look out of place on Eller’s wing.

        He’d be better served with first line minutes in Hamilton, but he’s improving.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I think Sheehy is right on this one. Given 3 games in a row, they needed to see how his body would react etc… they cannot afford to have him re-injure his sports hernia. I actually was surprised they let him play those 3 in a row.

  31. SmartDog says:

    I love Plekanec’s quote about his job being to play hockey, not worry about who’s playing and who’s not.

    You have to think the players are laughing at Gomez, at least to themselves, when he says “I want to win more than anyone”. I mean really, do you think Cole and Plekanec take that BS seriously? The guys who DO try hard aren’t just thinking that Gomez has been unlucky. They’re not stupid. They have to be thinking “this guy is all talk”…. among other things.

    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      Or they inferred the far more simple interpretation that his comment was an indication of his desire to win rather than wildly speculating that his comment was meant as an insult to his teammates.

      Also possible that when a number of said teammates have commented on Gomez being a good and well liked teammate, that maybe they know better than people on the Internet who are not in the dressing room.

      C’mon SD, your hatred of Gomez is becoming obsessive. He isn’t the player he used to be, and he is drastically overpaid. But he isn’t a cartoon villain.

      • LA Loyalist says:

        When a player is not pulling his weight on a team, it’s a problem because the number of players is finite, but the amount of effort required to win does not diminish.

        It’s not a question of hating a guy.

        My kid is on 2 teams. On one, he is by far the leading scorer. On the other, he is top 3. He is actually happier on the second team, because he doesn’t carry the entire burden of scoring and can play a more complete game.

        If Gomez, when his offense went south (the day he got off the plane in Montreal) had turned himself into Bob Gainey or Mike Keane, no one would complain much, even at his salary. But he hasn’t. He doesn’t score and he doesn’t play great D.

        It’s a team game. And Gomez is a black hole. Sorry, dude, retire.

        • HFX-HabFan says:

          Please tell us more about how your kid is NHL-bound.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I’m with HFX, more information required, I am putting finishing touches on my Bernese Mountain Dogs quest to become a sled dog in the Iditarod. He will be the first ever Berner, stories to follow.

          • LA Loyalist says:

            That’s got nothing to do with it. The point is that team play is more important to success than individual success. If Gomez were a team guy he would be doing everything possible to contribute, even if he weren’t scoring. But he’s not. That’s not opinion, that’s fact by observation.

            Now get back to work finishing your high school equivalency, moron.

          • LA Loyalist says:

            I wanted my pug to do the Iditarod, but she just rolled over and went back to sleep :-(

    • ZepFan2 says:

      It’s a good thing we have people like YOU that know what’s going on not only in the locker room, but what’s going on in the players heads.

      Your sig should be changed to, “He knows Sh!t!”

      ———————————————————————-
      “Wins? We don’t need no stinkin’ wins!”

      • SmartDog says:

        You’re a Zep fan so I’ll assume you’re cooler than you seem. But seriously, don’t you think the players feel like we do. Yeah, he’s a nice guy… go team, all that. But his actual contribution sucks. And do you think that bothers YOU more than it bothers a teammate who’s trying to make the playoffs and watching Gomez not score and then screw up drills. Seriously. It doesn’t take a lot of insight. More likely it takes a real imagination to think that the players are all cool with Gomez.

        ————————————-
        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

        • ZepFan2 says:

          “But seriously, don’t you think the players feel like we do.”

          Like “we” do? I don’t plan my day by how much I hate Gomez.

          “And do you think that bothers YOU more than it bothers a teammate who’s trying to make the playoffs and watching Gomez not score and then screw up drills.”

          Again I don’t hate Gomez. You do. Once again you add only speculation. I’m sure, nay, I’m positive Gomez isn’t the first to screw up in practice and I’m positive he wont be the last.

          Who’s next? Who will be the next on your – ‘attack every f-cking day until he’s gone’ list when he’s finally gone?

          Unlike you, sports do not rule my Life.
          ———————————————————————-
          “Wins? We don’t need no stinkin’ wins!”

          • SmartDog says:

            Talk about assumptions and mind reading. See a shrink buddy, you take me too seriously!

            ————————————-
            Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

          • ZepFan2 says:

            “See a shrink buddy, you take me too seriously!”

            You take yourself too seriously. How can others not? Everyday you’re on about Gomez. Am I wrong?

            “Talk about assumptions and mind reading.”

            Now you know how it feels to some of us reading your insights.

            ———————————————————————-
            “Wins? We don’t need no stinkin’ wins!”

    • Mattyleg says:

      I disagree. I think they are stupid.
      If they were intelligent, they’d be scientists or Hockey Insiders.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • shiram says:

        If only they stll had that PHD line… (very glad to see Pouliot did not become the scoring powerhouse many said he would be out of Mtl)

        Darche is an university graduate, Leblanc is said to be a smart chap too.

  32. nellis13 says:

    Palushaj shouldn’t be playing after the last game. I’d rather see AK on the 3rd line with Eller and LL. Randy’s trying to make a point at a time when we just need to win. Put your ego assied. AK can get the job done. Palushaj can’t.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      I agree on reuniting AK with Eller to get him going as they have gpod chemistry.

      But I thought Palushaj played well the other night. Had a few shots, created chances, and showed good speed. Looked far more comfortable than he did in his previous call ups.

  33. j2w4habs25 says:

    I was told lastnight from my grandfather that its not over until its over, even if we dont make it and its over.

    We got 18 games left and those 18 games can still get us way up there and if the hockey gods can be on our side by having Toronto, Wash, Isles, and Winnipeg on a losing streak atleast 4 games each. and with us getting help from the ghost of the forum (hope they wake up tonight at the BELL) ahaha but i think we still got that chance… . WISHFUL thinking! ahaha

    Carey Price #31

    • RGM says:

      25 games but who is counting?

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      GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
      “Scott Gomez, a potential Hall of Fame player, has two Stanley Cup rings and a Calder Trophy that says ‘I’m a player whom any authentic NHL coach will rely on to fix a game problem.’” – VancouverHab

      Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81

  34. habsfan0 says:

    Detroit set an NHL record last night with their 21st consecutive home ice win.

    During the 1976-77 season, the Habs compiled a record of 60-8-12.
    Of their 8 losses that year,only 1 came at home(Boston).
    Does anybody know what the Habs’ longest winning streak at home that year was?(Consecutive wins uninterrupted by a tie or a loss).

    • Cardiac says:

      13, spanning from Jan. 30 to March 26.

      If you count ties, it’s 34.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

      • habsfan0 says:

        Thanks. I believe the Flyers hold the record for longest undefeated home streak?

        • Cardiac says:

          Yep, still to this day… 35 games (25–0–10) in 1979-80.

          “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
          – Jerry Maguire

          • Mattyleg says:

            And that’ll probably never be broken because there’s no such thing as a tie anymore. Have to have the Circus Point.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

  35. Mattyleg says:

    Yay!
    Just bought tickets in the blues for Wed. Apr. 4 against Tampa Bay!
    I could’ve had tickets for the season finisher against Toronto, but looked again and they were gone.

    Will be my second game this season, after the Fan Summit.
    Looking forward to it, regardless of whether we’re in the playoff race or out of it.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  36. LA Loyalist says:

    As you guys know, I will personally drive Gomez to the bus station, but that said, the yelling thing is out of proportion.

    You can’t talk in a normal voice on the ice, it is all echo-ey. All coaches yell.

    That said, let’s remember this quote:

    “I’m a professional, I’ve always been. No one wants to win in Montreal more than me, I’ll never let down my teammates.” Scott Gomez

    Because to me it’s just sad.

  37. Vladdy Mondavi says:

    A lot of people seem to be inferring Diaz, Weber, Kaberle are the same type of player… aren’t we forgetting Campoli? He would fit that mold, too, wouldn’t he?

    He’s probably the most likely on the move, next to Gill.

    Question is, if the Habs are able to ship out two (2) of the aforementioned five (5) defencemen, who will be brought up from Hamilton so Cunny can continue dressing 7 to 8 D?

    _______________________________
    Opinions are like kittens, I’m giving them away.

  38. HabFanSince72 says:

    From Stu’s article – Bob McKenzie speculating that the Rangers will try to get Rick Nash from Columbus:

    “[The Rangers] can afford to trade a first round pick because of the way Ryan McDonagh has developed. Let’s remember Ryan McDonagh was a first round pick of the Montreal Canadiens; he got traded in the (Scott) Gomez deal. So basically that’s like found money. ”

    Ouch.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • smiler2729 says:

      You have to wonder though, would McDonagh have developed the same way playing in the Canadiens’ system (NHL/AHL) … this place seems to freeze players into shells.

      A lot less pressure in New York, hockeywise, one bad play in his own end as a Canadien and the fans would’ve listened to the wags on the radio and on L’Antichambre and the next thing you know he’s a bust and should be moved yadda yadda blah blah, we all know the routine as seen here daily…

      __________________________________
      Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Maybe there is a bit less pressure because it’s shared with other sports and other teams, but New York is a very intense market for pro athletes.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

        • smiler2729 says:

          Maybe it is but all of New York City and New York state aren’t emotionally tied to the Rangers as Montreal and Quebec is to the Habs…

          __________________________________
          Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

      • Vladdy Mondavi says:

        Each individual strives/excels/fails in different environment. McDonagh has developed into a solid defenceman in NYR with the group that’s there (young D, young leadership, Torts, etc…). He may not have developed or given the chance to develop the same way in MTL (with older D, older leadership, JM, etc.) .

        I agreeing with you that he may not have developed the same way in MTL. However, I would suggest it has more to do with the environment at the given time moreso than the “pressure” of playing for a certain organization/city.

        Similar to a university student going to a “lower-tier” school but surrounding himself/herself with good people and getting lots of life experience could develop their life skill just as much as had they gone to a more “prestigious” school and surrounded themselves with books.

        _______________________________
        Opinions are like kittens, I’m giving them away.

    • ont fan says:

      Wasn’t Mcguire making that comment about McDonagh..he never misses a chance to bring that up..every team makes trades they regret..we don’t know how he would have worked out here, just like if we trade someone at the deadline .. it’s a crap shoot..20 20 hindsight..Columbus needs a young goaltender in their deal..can’t believe NYR and Detroit would screw up chemistry now.

  39. pH-Habs says:

    On the note of Gomez, I think it should ultimately be up to him, but he needs to either be bought out, or brought down. At least off the current Canadiens. If he’d like to keep trying to be a pro player, good for him and best of luck. I personally would most likely opt to retire. He’s still owed, what (correct me if I’m wrong) something like 21 mil? I’d go spend my time in Alaska with a way early retirement and start fly fishing. Have my buddies up during the summer. Go down south during the winter. Relish the two rings. And most importantly get out of this mess in Montreal.

  40. Mattyleg says:

    I keep getting kicked out of the Virtual Waiting Room trying to buy Habs tickets.
    Anyone else having this problem?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  41. danimal72 says:

    It’s nice to know that Bob Gainey was capable of building a great team with just one trade! The Rangers! Thanks Bob! I love watching other teams get way better!

    • smiler2729 says:

      I guess tit for tat, Gainey fleeced the Rangers getting Kovalev for some prospect (Balej)…

      Even Sam Pollock made bad trades….

      __________________________________
      Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

      • RGM says:

        Word is that Gainey offered Sather his choice of Balej or Plekanec. “You have chosen…poorly. ”

        ———————–
        GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
        “Scott Gomez, a potential Hall of Fame player, has two Stanley Cup rings and a Calder Trophy that says ‘I’m a player whom any authentic NHL coach will rely on to fix a game problem.’” – VancouverHab

        Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81

    • pH-Habs says:

      That was a ridiculously brutal trade.

      To give BG credit, his vision was close(ish).

      Though we did call it a Cinderella run.

  42. New says:

    It will be funny tonite. If Gomez plays really well…not Gomez well but Eller well…will the Habs assign someone to kick his motivator every day? Will there be any doubt left as to the cause of the issue(s) surrounding him? If Gomez plays like the Gomez we and his teammates love (’cause he isn’t showing anybody up) does he even catch the plane back? Will the Broons key on Gomez to prevent his mindless forays West-East or to block his fearsome shot? Will the Rangers acquire Gomez at the trade deadline for Redden?

  43. Timo says:

    Hungry Bruins will eat the Habs alive and spit them out.

    • Psycho29 says:

      I seem to remember reading the same thing here when we played the Red Wings….and the Rangers……and the Leafs…..

    • chrisHABS7 says:

      Nay! Habs went 6-4-0 in their last 10, while the Bruins went 5-4-1. Furthermore, Boston scored 24 and allowed 34 in the same period, while the Habs scored 32 and only allowed 23. I saw this one goes to our Canadiens.

      VISIT http://WWW.HABS7.COM!

    • ed lopaz says:

      totally disagree Timo, and here’s why.

      this team will compete and compete hard tonight.

      I am not guaranteeing a win, because frankly the Bruins have been one of the elite teams all season,

      but I feel very strongly that we will compete.

      this team is turning the corner – maybe too little too late – but the hockey is better.

      we are a much tougher team to play against

      we play straight ahead, direct hockey, and go hard on the forecheck and hard to the net with and without the puck.

      the team backchecks well and supports the d-men and Price.

      there is a lot to cheer for on this team right now, including

      many young stars that are being supported by hard working veterans.

      I spent more than 2 seasons pissed at management and coaching.

      But today I am confident this team will and can compete against anybody.

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

    • RetroMikey says:

      We are like little lambs in the pasture waiting to be eaten alive by bigger and stronger wolves like the Bruins.
      Cry wolf!

      “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

      • smiler2729 says:

        Your record’s stuck.

        So is mine now:
        Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, etc…

        __________________________________
        Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

        • RetroMikey says:

          Shame on you, you should be saying it in French…..fermez la bouche…fermez la bouche…fermez la bouche….etc.

          “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  44. habs03 says:

    @Ali: sorry to post here, seems like I can’t reply and more.

    But Kaberle makes 4.25M, on this year cap it only takes up 6.65% of the cap, not as bad as the number is. Also if you look at our cap situation for next year, we have ton of cap room with Gomez gone, with everyone resigned at a reasonable cap hit ex Price 5M/ Subban 3M/AK 4M. We would have more than 8M in cap space to add possible another top 6 forward, and maybe another top 4D-men. If you trade Kaberle that would be around 12M in cap space. If you look at that open market this summer, tell me who you can sign as insurance to Markov getting hurt again for around 4M. Widman? Kubina?

    • smiler2729 says:

      Dreger says Mtl would not get one call if they shopped Kaberle, says a GM told him JRutherford is executive of yr for trading Kaberle

      __________________________________
      Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

      • habs03 says:

        Had a debate about it, down below, if you want to read, but If Zidlicky gets moved to the Devils (rumour), then Kaberle will get us a whole load more than Spacek IF Mtl was looking to trade him, even with Zidlicy having 1 year less on his contact at 4M.

        • smiler2729 says:

          I would move Kaberle’s contract for nothing in return

          __________________________________
          Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

          • habs03 says:

            And what would you do with that extra 4M? with Everyone signed Price/Subban/AK/Moen etc we would have around 8M in cap space and with Kaberle gone too that would be around 12-13M…

    • Phil C says:

      You are very confidence Gomez will be gone. I’m not convinced yet. He should have been gone last year, but here we are.

      • habs03 says:

        Last year, we had a done of cap room during the summer and nothing to spend it on. This summer is going to be different, and even if Molson doesn’t want to bury him in the AHL, they will buy him out.

        • Phil C says:

          I would rather send him to Hamilton. I’m not sure the Habs can afford the cap hit on the buyout. The Habs would still be paying four years from now.

          Scott Gomez buyout Cap hit from CapGeek.com
          2012-13: $3,523,810
          2013-14: $4,523,810
          2014-15: $1,666,667
          2015-16: $1,666,667

    • Ali says:

      IMO he is a power-play specialist at this point, because he is useless in his own end and more over a liability. His salary needs to be in the range of Kurtis Foster, MAB, etc.

      • ed lopaz says:

        absolutely agree – kaberle is purely a power play specialist like MAB.

        he is a liability 5 on 5 and the whole league – including Gauthier – knows this.

        the same way that Gill is a liability 5 on 5 and is a penalty kill specialist exclusively

        but the Habs still felt they needed this kind of power play specialist to spark their 29th ranked power play, and that is why the trade was made.

        Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

    • RetroMikey says:

      Well my French teacher was wrong all these years teaching me in high school here in Hamilton. Double shame on her!

      “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  45. smiler2729 says:

    The difference between last year and this year is defence and PP.

    Replacing Wiz, Hammer, Spacek with Diaz, Weber, Kaberle (the same player three times) is pure PG stupidity.

    Letting Kirk Muller walk (he ran the PP/SH and was the only VOCAL voice behind the bench) was more PG stupidity.

    Other than that, this year’s team is way better 5-on-5 than they’ve been in a while…

    Whatever, I’m getting tired of thinking about it all…

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    • G-Man says:

      They offered Kirk Hamilton. He said no and went to Milwaukee. Maurice couldn’t get anything from his players in Raleigh, so he’s now head coach. Get over it. Look how God Himself Boucher is doing this season with essentially the same team.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Wasn’t much of a choice on letting Muller walk. He wanted to be a head coach and at that point JM was still under contract for two more years. I think they would have liked to keep him.

      Our Defense is an issue this season and our slumping PP and go to forwards as well, Gio really struggled, Pleks as well and so did Cammy. Gio and Cammy were by far our worst go to guys that struggled. AK isn’t have a good year either.

      This team needs a couple key cogs on D and we also needs some production up front. I think Bourque will help as he is a 20 goal guy and gio will be better. Pleks is coming around already and will be over 50 points this year so that isn’t that bad.

      n

  46. Roy93 says:

    Leafs lost again last night. That Carolina game is going to haunt us. With a win tonight it would have put us 3 points behind 8th. Err what a terrible lose. Thanks Kaberle.

    • G-Man says:

      Last I saw there were 18 others playing against Carolina. They all lost. Breaking it down to 1 play that TIED THE GAME is more blind sh*t from the peanut gallery.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      The leafs are going to miss the playoffs as well I believe. They are really starting to struggle

    • smiler2729 says:

      Yes, they should’ve won the Carolina game cuz all signs point to them losing the Boston tonight so if they beat the Beantown Weasels it’s all relative, they’ll just have lost and won the wrong games.

      They’re not going to go unbeaten the rest of the way and they most likely aren’t going to make the playoffs but it’ll be fun rooting them on.

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    • chrisHABS7 says:

      Yeah, but at least we can still get 5 behind the Leafs with a win tonight… Besides – the season’s not over. Washington and Toronto’s struggles are GODSENDS for the Habs. They could still surprise us. I know asking a team to win 20 out of 25 is crazy, but… check out Pittsburgh a few years ago! They got 30 out of 40 points to hit the playoffs, and they won the Cup!

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  47. Another Recent Rumour Roudup.
    The jokes are made up but the Rumerz are real.

  48. Habitall says:

    Not sure if anyone’s already mentioned this, but the 2001 1st and 2nd overall draft picks each had identical 4 point nights yesterday. Both Kovalchuk & Spezza had a hat trick and an assist. Both had points in all the goals scored by their team. Both teams won on the road.

    Hmmm … tanking’s looking more appealing all the time!

  49. Un Canadien errant says:

    Scott Gomez’ body language and facial expressions while he answered questions from the press after getting chewed out by Coach Ladouceur speak more clearly than any of the rehearsed verses he doled out.

    When answering tough questions like: “…is your heart still into it?”, or words to that effect, he touched his face a couple of times, a ‘tell’ that poker players and police officers use to determine if someone is being deceitful. His expression was also frozen. His speech was flat and monotone, no energy or emphasis on certain words or sentences. Further, he gave a 200 word circumlocution to that question, instead of a clear, straighforward: “Absolutely, yes.”

    His explanation that the dustup was an indicator that there was still energy and passion and drive on the team is pure malarkey with respect to him. If he had fire and passion, he, a veteran, experienced player, the highest-paid on the team, would be focusing on the drill instead of messing it up. If a Russian rookie screws up, that’s understandable, but there is no excuse for Mr. Gomez to do so, regardless of his flippant approach that it’s not the first time and not the last that a coach will yell at a player.

    Final point is that for a coach to dress down a veteran in front of everyone else takes a lot. Unless you’re dealing with Mike Keenan or Bill Parcells, the vets get a lot of leeway, they’ve built up a lot of credit over the years. Normally they don’t get publicly humiliated. Let’s think about our work places. While they are very different than a pro hockey team, what would it take for one of you, or if you’re relatively junior, one of the more senior, trusted employees to get screamed at? It would take a major mistake that came on the heels of many others.

    So please, Mr. Gomez, instead of trying to brush it off, why don’t you take responsibility, stop being so glib, get the motor mouth back in first gear, state that you screwed up and that you’ll try harder, and then go ahead and do so.

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    • Stev.R says:

      Touching his face could have many different reason. It doesn’t say he is lying, it says he is hiding something. He could be hiding his anger towards the sports reporter (most useless people on earth) for asking such a disrespectful question.

      Monotone voice and a frozen expression tends to mean he is telling the truth. When people lie, they overcompensate. He was cool as a cucumber.

      And the long answer to me suggests that he is getting tired of answering stupid questions and giving a long answer like that would be his way of trying to settle the issue once and for all.

      Players screw up drills all the time. It doesn’t matter who it is. We don’t even know the extent of how he screwed up. Maybe he made a bad pass, maybe he didn’t know where he was supposed to go. Either way, its something that happens every practice.

      Coaches yell all the time at practice. In fact, I’de be more concerned if there was no yelling. Again, as is so common in MTL, people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Maybe you’re right, but I’m thinking I’m on to something. For him to go round and round when someone asks if his heart is still into it, reminds of when the girlfriend asks the boyfriend if he’s having an affair. The guilty guy goes on and on, “How can you ask me that, why would you ask that question, don’t you trust me,…..” instead of saying flat out “No” and taking her to the bedroom.

        Scott’s not giving me eye contact, and he doesn’t bring me flowers anymore.

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        • Ali says:

          I think it was more a case of being embarrassed. He was publicly dressed down and knows he can’t say anything about it. He clearly was unhappy, and was trying to get out of there.

        • Timo says:

          Well… I mean was there ever an instance in the modern sports history when a professional athlete openly admitted to a reported that his heart wasn’t in it and he didn’t care about his team?

          We all know Gomer doesn’t give rat’s rear end but no way in hell he’d openly admit it. It’s not a professional thing… it’s a self preservation thing. He still wants to sucker another team into signing him after his contract with Habs is over (maybe Bob Gainey will be GMing another club by then)

      • He touched his face because he hasn’t shaved in three days. :lol:

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    • G-Man says:

      UCE- the living polygraph. Stay clear or you will be next! ;)

    • pH-Habs says:

      I’m partial to agree. However, the cross-fire of Montreal hockey media can leave a bitter taste for sure (at least when We The Fans so deem it). To quote my man Bobby-D “Swallow your pride, you will not die, it’s not poison”

    • SmartDog says:

      To me, a big part of Gomez’s “problem” is that he’s out to lunch. He’s either in major denial or just delusional. Last year it was “I’m gonna be better”. This year it’s “I’m not getting the bounces.” And a problem is STILL that he’s not playing North-South? Jeez… how long have we heard this?

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    • mb says:

      I think you have some good points. You are absolutely right about focusing on the drill and taking it seriously rather than messing it up and trying to find some excuse.
      However, I don’t think his answers are lies. To me, he looks like a man who totally lost control of the situation and doesn’t know what to do to get out of the whole he dug. Avoiding eye contact is a common reaction when you are embarrassed, so is staring down.
      As for his monotone voice, to me it just shows he’s tired of answering the same questions over and over again. (Yet I think he deserves to face the music). As someone else stated, people making up lies are more likely to over-compensate and try to be too convincing so people believe them. I’d be more concerned had he tried to be too convincing.

      But in any case, I agree with your conclusion. Stop saying you want to try harder and DO IT. Can’t be worse for him at this point, can it?

  50. FuzE_gus says:

    When can we officially move from Desperate to Done. I’m a loyal Habs fan and not a band wagon jumper. But I’m becoming increasingly more insulted by people who try to portray the Habs as a team with a greater hope than hell to make the playoffs. I want to see them win and I think there is a great young core of players. I would cheer the team if they cut their losses, trimmed fat and made deals to set this team on the right course for the future. A high draft pick wouldn’t hurt either. Gunning for the lofty heights of a “middle syndrome” team will secure mediocrity for this once great franchise. As a middle team we will never attract top talent in the prime of their careers. The team needs to break this cycle and model themselves after the teams who “ARE” successful not carrying themselves like they are still the team of the 70s. The Habs are a below average middle team with mediocre management. I hope ownership truly recognises this.

    With Regards from FuzE_gus

    • Kooch7800 says:

      They have to try and keep our attention so hence why they still make it seem like there is a shot. If they just wrote we are done fans would start tuning in somewhere else.

      Business that is all.

      I love the habs to but this team is currently not a contender. We are too weak in offense and our defense is way too soft to compete in the playoffs. It should not be all doom and gloom cause we do have some bright spots. Max P is performing as his potential suggested, Eric Cole is better than expected, DD is proving his weight in gold, Emelin is showing he was worth the wait, We won the cammy trade, LL looks like in a couple years he will be a real solid NHL’er.

      We do have a lot to build around but there is tweaks that need to be made. We also need to restock the farm with some prospects.

      The next couple weeks are like the playoffs seeing what PG does. I would like to see AK back for similar cash but if not see ya! Moen i have a feeling is already basically done, Gill will be gone, Campoli hopefully will be gone and God willing a taker for Kabrele

    • Timo says:

      Habs are a one line team. Period. They keeping feeding us some false hope every now and then. I noticed that “virtual tickets waiting room” is now open. Bet the suckers will be “lining” up to shell out more ridiculous $$$ to see this bunch of pretenders.

  51. Stev.R says:

    Take a look at CBJ’s draft record over the last 10 years. Maybe 5 or 6 legit NHLers. How can anyone make that many bad choices? They’de have better luck pulling names out of a hat

    • boonie says:

      You’re totally right. That’s statistically unlikely. I’d chalk it up systemic developmental problems. Look at us. For the past decade we have developed more players who play lots of games without developing stars. Again, more likely a systemic developmental process (process, not error) to play it safe.

    • smiler2729 says:

      How about Montreal’s draft record? Terry Ryan, Brent Bilodeau, Matt Higgins, Lindsay Vallis, some Chouinard kid, Fischer, AK46… on and on…

      The draft after the top 5 is a crap shoot

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  52. MikeMcLaren says:

    Do you still have faith in this team?

    Want to show it?

    I have two tickets (side by side, yes) in Club Desjardins 209 that someone backed out of for TONIGHT’S game against the Bruins and I need to sell them. The same tickets would have cost you around $530 on the Canadiens website.

    They are yours for $350 for the pair. These include ALL YOU CAN EAT concessions, free coat check etc.

    If you’re interested, please e-mail me at mmclaren and then after that do an @ sign and yahoo.com which hopefully just defeated some spam bots ;)

    /\ike
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  53. Marc10 says:

    Burying Gomez is the best business decision. I’d do it right now… Or maybe at the beginning of the Third!

    I thought it was a decent question so I’ll bring it up again. Right now, straight up, how about Komisarek for Kabs?

    Two bad contracts. Kabs is arguably the better player right now and he’s a former Leaf. Komi played his last good game as a Hab. Big body, blocks shots, hits… Can we rebuild him?

    What say ya? I say yes. I’d do anything to lose Kaberle. He’s softer than a marshmallow.

    • sanman_11 says:

      Not in a million years. Kaberle may have trade value albeit small. Komisarek has none.

      I’m a HABS fan not a Leaf blower.

      • Ali says:

        Nobody will take Kaberle. I’ll buy Boone a new pair of sweatpants if someone does.

        • habs03 says:

          See post below. if Zidlicky is gettin trade, not only is somone willing to trade Kaberle, but pay a lot more than Spacek for him too!

          • Ali says:

            honestly folks. The fact that a gm in this league would say that Rutherford deserves GM of the year just for getting rid of Kaberle makes it ridiculous that any of you think he and Zidlicky are comparable.

          • Vladdy Mondavi says:

            Zidlicky brings a little more of a physical aspect to his game than Kaberle does… and only one more year at $4M not vs. 2 yrs for Kabs.

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          • Ali says:

            thank you Vladdy, was going to point that out

          • habs03 says:

            Lol, I bet that GM was Scott Howson. But please , Zidlicky is not physical at all, he is an offensive D-men that doesn’t produce. He isn’t even getting any playing time on a horrible Wild D-Core. Zidlicky has 13 points in 39 games this year, at a -7, Kaberle has 15 points in only 28 games and is -4 on the Habs. Last year Kaberle had 47 points in 82 games, while Zidlicky had 24 points in 46 games. ANY GM would take Kaberle at 2 years 4.25M than Zidlicky at 1 year 4M!

          • Ali says:

            Habs03, I would like nothing more than for you to be right and someone takes him. I very much suspect that you’re wrong however.

          • habs03 says:

            @Ali, if Markov is back, I won’t mind trading Kaberle, but the team won’t trade him until Markov proves to be 100%. But to say no one wants him after how he has been playing here is incorrect, specially when considering the rumours like the Zidlicky one, who is worth less than Kaberle when with 1 year less on his contract.

            Btw, what makes you think MTL even wants to trade Kaberle in the first place?

          • Ali says:

            In a non-cap world you might be right. but for a player who at best is a 15 minute player now and is not reliable in his own end, having an extra year is a liability now, not an asset. Only way Kaberle gets moved is if we take a similarly bad contract back.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          What we need to buy Boone is another more Fashionable Habs toque which he will be brave enough to wear for games in Montreal when he is hobknobbing with CHantal and others in the Press Boxes.

    • habs03 says:

      Oh man, its one thing to not like the guy, but he has a lot more value than Komi. Actually Canes were stupid to trade him so soon. It looks like the Devils are going to trade for Zidlikcy who is a lot worst than Kaberle and is signed for next year at 4M.

    • powdered toastmann says:

      Interesting suggestion. Hedges on a lots of ifs….If Markhov is not a Write-hov and actually comes back (and if he can be somewhat effective again and if he is not too fragile upon his return) , can the playing relationship between the two be rekinkled? (i.e complimentary styles…mentoring vet good defensively/puck moving/first pass veteran and large physical no offensive benefit younger d)

      Funny how lots here are blinded by their Komi-hate. Yeah, he went to the loafs for more $. So what, he was good, and showed promise before his fight with Lucic. In thaT fight he suffered a shoulder injury which obviously hampered his ability to fight further at that time and that (aside from not being the best fighter, was why he lost the fight and suffered a major blow to confidence etc.) He’s a big, strong, relatively young d who was/is very physical. Paired with the right guy, who knows?

      After the fight, when playing against Lucic, he did not shy away from hitting him hard when the opportunity presented itself (with the habs and leafs.) With the Leafs, there was more physical security around him. If the Habs had that and he was re-paired with Markhov (if he returns) he may recapture that mojo/effectiveness.

    • smiler2729 says:

      I thought of that trade too but in the end as soft as Kaberle is defensively, he can still move the puck very well, Komisarek can’t do anything well anymore…

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  54. RetroMikey says:

    I am hoping PG is not conservative come trade deadline like our previous GM Bobby in the past.
    Start trading and clean house!
    We will be winners one day, not assemble a team to be a .500 team at best as we have done in the past.
    Tank I say! Tank!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • smiler2729 says:

      What the F*** does “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “ mean anyway???

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      • RetroMikey says:

        It means we will win the Cup with my Aunt Maria in the nets or my Nonna Antonia in the nets, heck we will win the Cup with my son Nikola in the nets if he is drafted in the nets.
        You honestly think Price will lead us to our next Cup….ummm….I don’t think so.

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Mikey, Smiler isn’t making a point about Carey Price. He’s making the point, which I’ve made repeatedly, that your signature isn’t grammatical, it’s a bunch of nonsense. It certainly doesn’t mean what you think it means, since you keep getting asked it means. If you have to explain it, it obviously fails as your signoff message.

          Please, if that is what you mean, change your sig to: “We will win the Cup one day, but not with Carey Price in goal.” I’ll disagree with the analysis, but at least I won’t sprain my brain trying to decypher what the heck you mean.

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  55. HABZ24 says:

    luv the way the 2 randys are taking command of the ship my way or the highway gomez gets away with no production let him know it wont be tolerated send gomer to the farm to ride the buses with 17 yr olds. if he all of a sudden starts scoring after 2 weex bring him back up this clowns too cocky thinks hes above all that.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Interesting to see the apparent difference between that concept and the ” veterans poop doesn’t stink” concept employed by the count. Will be interesting to see if the youngsters respond to this as well as the vets.

  56. gmur says:

    It’s a dog-eat-dog world and I’m wearing Milkbone underwear.

    – Norm from Cheers.

    The Canadiens better be ready or they all will be wearing Milkbone underwear… with some angry Bruins around. Could get ugly if Price goals the way he did against Carolina. But that’s OK… just wait until after next season when the Bruins can’t afford to keep Lucic, Marchand, Seguin, Thomas, Horton, Ference and this summer they have some decisions too: Chris Kelly, Joe Corvo, Johnny Boychuk, Shawn Thornton. Winning the cup is great, but wait until some teams start waving 8-year, 60 million$ contracts at some of those ‘winner’ players and the Bruins can’t match…

    Which begs the question: What happens when a Bear has Milkbone underwear on its own arse? The imagination goes wild…

  57. jonnyp says:

    Gomez won’t be dressed tonight !!

  58. Marc10 says:

    Can’t wait to see Yemmy’s next victim! Maybe we could put him on the 4th line in the Mark Streit Memorial slot to show AK how to wallpaper Ference…

    I would love to see this guy on the forecheck! He really knows how to make an impression…!

  59. habs03 says:

    Seeing how there seems to be a deal in place for Marek Zidlicky, who also signed for next year at 4M, I can’t wait to see what the Devils give up for him. Wtv it is, if Gauthier wanted to trade Kaberle, I bet he would get a whole load more than he a Spacek, and a whole lot more than what the Devils are going to give up for Zidlicky.

    • mdp2011 says:

      Sorry you are way off base, Kaberle has absolutely no value. He is soft, a huge defensive liability, and has done nothing to turn the powerplay around. Yes, he has 13 points since arriving in MTL, but those have to be the most useless 13 points ever. RC can’t put him out there 5 on 5, and he has 2 more years at ridiculous money. No other GM besides PG would touch him.

  60. Vladdy Mondavi says:

    Why must teams be titled as Buyers/Sellers at the trade deadline? Whatever happened to making a trade which benefits both teams?
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    • Clay says:

      The salary cap – that’s why.

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  61. SmartDog says:

    Okay, if you’re Pierre Gauthier. After wolfing down your breakfast of orange-cranberry tea, carrot juice, and a strawberry, you make a list of things to do between now and the trade deadline. What’s on it?

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    • Vladdy Mondavi says:

      - Bathroom break
      – Hide from media
      – Pick up the phone… hang up
      – Pick up the phone … call in AK46’s agent, see what price range they’re looking at… laugh.
      – Send out an e-mail to all 29 GMs asking for a 1st rounder for AK46… wait for response.
      – Check in on Moen’s health make a statement saying he’s fine trade him for best offer… (with plans to sign him in the off season for more than he’s worth for a two-year contract and repeat).
      – Wait for all other defensemen to be dealt and increase the price for Gill.
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      • SmartDog says:

        And… see if there are any horrible contracts out there we could pick up in an easy trade “to help the team”.

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        • Vladdy Mondavi says:

          yup… I forgot to mention he’d also sign the outcome of his bathroom break to a lengthy contract and expect it to perform on the ice.

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    • I’m going with tradition here. They never make any moves that really matter at the deadline.

      They signed Markov, they (the org) want to know if he is the key to success. They want to know if their young guns will develop.

      Too bad Cammalleri couldn’t be that 40 goal man we all wanted, I still can’t believe he turned out the way he did. Imagine 40 extra goals on this team. Sigh

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      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I’m with you Shane, I don’t think injuries are the main cause for our poor season.

        We have essentially the same team as last season, minus some veteran defencemen, that’s one big reason, but one I can live with, because I prefer to have Emelin, Weber and Diaz on the ice over Roman Hamrlik. I would have like to resign James Wisniewski, he was kind of good to have on our team, but I understand there are cap considerations.

        I agree that the poor performance of some of our veterans is what is sinking us. Mike Cammalleri, Brian Gionta and Scott Gomez have given us probably half the point production we could have expected. Tomas Plekanec seems to be reviving after a torpid 30 to 40 games, but overall our best forwards have not played like it. This is the main reason for the drop in the standings, more than injuries.

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        • rogus says:

          I can’t believe you just said that you’d rather watch the soft swiss cheeses over Hamrlik. That has to be one of the all time craziest things I’ve seen on here. Do you know what defensemen are supposed to do? Ducking checks, and giving the puck away repeatedly and having zero push back aren’t on the list. Unreal.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            I stand by it. You can review my posts from the beginning of the season on this subject. I prefer that Mr. Diaz, Weber and Emelin be getting minutes and learning the ropes, even at the cost of a few losses, rather than see those minutes go to Mr. Spacek and Hamrlik who are on the downslope of their career and are not part of our future.

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          • If the Canadiens had signed Hammer this season he would have been one of the whipping boys fans use when they lose. Not sure how he’s doing in Washington, I suppose I could look at his stats and see but I’d rather watch him on TV to talk about his play. I’m guessing he’s average at best.

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        • A little patience I guess, but it’s tough waiting until the end.

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    • DorvalTony says:

      Pedicure. Seaweed enema. Yoga class for mothers. Take your sari to the dry cleaner.

    • stevieray says:

      That’s a poor excuse for a breakfast ! and a even worse way to start your day …
      but …. make a deal for Gomez to move up in a draft . He doesn’t add anything to us now so he won’t be missed , so maybe we use him for a decent ,BIG, first rounder
      also… invite Randy L for breakfast …he seems like a angry man !!!
      and finally …order some sausages !

    • smiler2729 says:

      His to-do list for the next two weeks:

      – hand in resignation.

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  62. If you’re not excited about this game tonight there’s something wrong with you all.

    Go Habs Go

    Take It Easy

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  63. Sharks9 says:

    Why does anyone want us to buy Gomez out? What the heck is the point of that? Burying him in the minors is by far the best option.

    25 before 14

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      A few of the ex-coaches on l’Antichambre think that that would create a bad climate in Hamilton, and they would rather cut the ties completely, make a clean break like what happened with Georges Laraque. I’d prefer to save the cap space myself, but these guys have been though situations like this before, and they don’t think having Scott Gomez around for another two years would be healthy.

      Maybe we do what the Oilers did with Sheldon Souray, I believe they loaned him to another AHL team so there wouldn’t be any negative vibes.

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      • Vladdy Mondavi says:

        Another option is loan him to a European team, like Chicago did with Huet.

        Does Gomez have a clause in his contract allowing him to veto such transactions?

        Lastly, another option would be to wait and see how the talks go on the new CBA. Perhaps there will be a penalty free buyout period (à la NBA).
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        • Un Canadien errant says:

          We can only dream of an amnesty.

          Mr. Gomez has a modified No Trade Clause, which states that he can name a very few teams he will not be traded to in the NHL. He has no power over being sent down to the AHL, to which he might prefer to play in Europe for the last couple years of his contract, at which point you can strike a sort of ‘Huet deal’.

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          • Vladdy Mondavi says:

            Thanks, Un Canadien errant.

            I guess it wouldn’t cost the Habs much more (as it applies to Cap Space) to keep him on the books until the new CBA is signed.

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          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Capwise, especially with Andrei Markov and Brian Gionta injured, he is not hurting the team for the rest of the season. Next summer he has to be disposed of, so we can use the 7.4 million in a more productive fashion.

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    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Sharks, I’m no expert, but what’s been said here before is that burying a high-profile player in the minors makes other players less willing to come to your team.

      Does anyone out there know, really, how true that is?

      If true it’s a pity. It implies that players don’t like the idea of consequences for poor play. Kind of undermines an important principle of sport.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I’ve heard that before, and it didn’t stop Brad Richards from signing with the Rangers after they sent down Wade Redden. I think players will be sensitive to the quality of an organization, and that would affect their decision to a high degree, but they can all read the newspapers and Google team statistics. They know that Scott Gomez has been treated with an excess of patience and all the fairness in the world. If he was sent to Hamilton, everyone would understand why, and no one would think that was a reason to not sign with the Canadiens.

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    • Newf_Habster says:

      Nope. Using an one-time amnesty clause on Gomez is our BEST option because it will help us save a lot of money in our salary cap in next four years! Read this link!!!!

      http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/02/11/rink-wrap-habs-want-amnesty-clause

  64. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Good morning from across the water.

    I don’t hate the city of Boston, but I love to hate the Bruins in what must be the best old rivalry in hockey. Yeah, so they’re champs, but we traditionally have their number — and they haven’t forgotten that. A single Montreal goal last spring and they are NOT champs. Not saying we automatically and smugly beat them tonight, but we could. Put it this way — should Montreal make the playoffs, any time a Bruin is interviewed saying ‘we don’t care who we play’, he’s lying. They NEVER want Montreal.

    Meantime, in anticipation of tonight’s game, please check out this very short Tom Lehrer song. About Boston.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goJ0QIaXZ-w

    And, in advance, I’m making no apologies for re-posting often today! You’ll see why.

    Cheers

  65. Marc10 says:

    We’re not on Nash’s list… No worries there.

    I’m not looking forward to the Boston game. The B’s play it tough while we fold bad in the Third… Not a good combination.

    But I’m glad White is back. That’ll be fun if he can beat up on Collie’s son or one of the woodchucks.

    • powdered toastmann says:

      As much as I like White, a 188 Ib. energy guy/great 4th liner cannot be expected to have a big impact/physically lead (carry)any team against the Bruins.

  66. Habfan10912 says:

    Brian Burke has gotta start feeling some heat pretty soon, no?

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Interesting point, but I’m not sure. He’s a pretty big personality, so that helps in Toronto. They also would wonder who is out there who can do a better job, something we are grappling with here in Montreal with the GM and coaching situation. Another thing to consider is that the sale of the franchise is going to take a while, so the current management isn’t going to want to rock to the boat, they’d leave decisions like that to the incoming regime (the Bell-Rogers Collusion).

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      • ffenliv says:

        One thing Burke has going for him in TO is his media-loving personality. I’m no big fan of the guy, but I don’t hate him, or think he’s a moron, and he handles the media well in a city where, like in Montreal, the press can tear you to pieces.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Exactly. He sets the agenda, will go on the offensive to defend his players (remember his playoff Sedin rant?), and will answer questions regularly as opposed to only when absolutely necessary. He’s a blowhard, but a lovable knucklehead of a blowhard.

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  67. SmartDog says:

    Jeez. Buffalo, the Bolts, Jets, and Laffs all lost. Competition for last place is really heating up.

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  68. Marc10 says:

    Nash is overrated around the League and the NYR would want him pretty bad. Go for gold I say.

    • ffenliv says:

      I almost think Nash is underrated. The few times we’ve seen him play with real teammates, like, say, at the 2010 Olympics, he played very, very well, even if he wasn’t putting up huge numbers.

      Him playing in Columbus for so long has done fans of the entire league a great disservice.

  69. aj says:

    Since the header of this blogpost reads “Desperate Canadiens….” and a link shows to a report on Rick Nash’s worth, ok – how about like this then: AK and Moen for Nash, I know I will get the ‘are you serious…???’ question, but why not?

    If Gauthier and this team is so desperate enough, do they have the balls to carry his contract: 62.4 Million and 7.8 Million a yr, a UFA in 2018: http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=13

    I don’t think its going to happen. However, you never know…..

    • Kooch7800 says:

      they need a goalie and wantba few top prospects. moen and ak are neither of those. ak is a bubble top six player and moen is a grinder. if montreal was to enter it would be for price probably

    • The Cat says:

      I hope Gauthier’s first item (if hes going to make a blockbuster trade) is getting a solid dman, moreso than a forward.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Vladdy Mondavi says:

      Title is desperate Habs, not desperate Blue Jackets…

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    • Ozmodiar says:

      are you serious…???

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I’d suspect the Canucks and Kings can put a deal together for Rick Nash. They both have #2 goalies (Corey Schneider and Jonathan Bernier, respectively) that they can spare and would be a good start to a package that compares to the Rangers’. Hopefully the Bruins don’t feel that comfortable with the Tim Thomas idiocy going on now.

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    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Did you read what the Rangers may have already offered? Dubinski, Kreider and a #1. You couldn’t get anyone of those three for AK and Moen, why would Columbus even consider it. Columbus might start listening at Price or PK plus Beaulieu or Tinordi plus a #1 pick, and even that may not be enough. Besides, the Gomez factor makes taking on Nash’s salary impossible. That’s the true cost of Gomez, he takes you out of the discussion.

  70. Ian Cobb says:

    We are in 25th place out of 30 teams.

    And we are 12th out of 15 teams in the conference.

    We are now in a position to get a 1st over all draft pick!

    Or are we good enough to crack 8th place and get creamed in the 1st round? Or go further?

  71. CanadienBoy says:

    Should GM be testing what he could resign AK and Moen for , a head of the trading dead line, it would can of help or typical of management loose them for nothing

  72. Laramy87 says:

    Bruins are in a rut right now, we are getting them at a great time. Let’s hope we don’t come out flat tonight. Need solid 60 mins and an oilers win, could be 5 out this time tomorrow

  73. Marc10 says:

    Dubinsky and Kreider + a first rounder for Nash.

    Seriously! I’d ask for McDonaugh, Kreider and two first rounders…

  74. The Cat says:

    I hate to go on a limb but I think the habs get destroyed tonight.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  75. John Q Public says:

    Are we there Yet !
    Are we there Yet !
    Are we there Yet !
    Are we there Yet !
    Are we there Yet ! ……………..

  76. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Sorry for this image, especially as I’m five hours ahead and you’re probably still eating your cornflakes. But my buttocks have been stapled to the bandwagon since 1970!

  77. It’s that Easy, until the fight is over there’s fighting to be done. You’re either a fighter, or a loser!

    After reading yesterday’s melt down by easily some of the most classless member’s here, we now know what they are.

    Shane Oliver
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  78. Un Canadien errant says:

    I’ll enjoy a win, but I’ve thrown in the towel a while back and I don’t intend on picking it up again. I want the team to trade expiring contracts for assets instead of seeing them walk away this summer, which I fear would happen since who would want to subject themselves to more of what Jaroslav Spacek called “a circus”.

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  79. G-Man says:

    Never got off. F*** losing. Go Habs!

  80. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Geez, HH. Agree with just about all, but do you want some music with that? “Land of Hope and Glory” maybe!

    Instead, listen to this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goJ0QIaXZ-w

  81. HabinBurlington says:

    Interesting angle there HH, unsure of the reason why you feel a backhanded slap at people attending Summit is necessary. There were people there who felt this team was not ready to win this year and that a good draft position would help the team. And as i recall I was enjoying beers with them at the Summit.

    I don’t think anyone is advocating for PG to become a buyer and risk youngsters/prospects/draft choices to make the playoffs.

    Just seems to me you enjoy stirring the pot and arguing for the sense of arguing. But no need to be disrespectful to a bunch of people who happen to be Habs fans, want to get together and have a fun weekend watching hockey, drinking libations and enjoy the sights of Montreal.

  82. G-Man says:

    Wow. Your head so swollen you can’t leave the room? Give me a break.
    Time to ignore you, Haha. Time for you to “walk alone.” Like a drunk that’s had a few too many and it’s waaaaay past midnight.

  83. smiler2729 says:

    I read Trevor Timmins was dead set against dealing Ryan McDonagh… Why have the guy around if they’re not going to listen to him?

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  84. mount royal says:

    Do you really need to constantly remind us of your uniqueness? Let your opions be judged on their own merits.

  85. Classic, I don’t mention his guy’s name since November and he automatically thinks of himself. NOICE!

    :lol:

    Shane Oliver
    http://www.Sholi2000.com Inc.
    Custom Sports Figures
    Brandon, MB,Canada
    R7B 2R7
    hockey@sholi2000.com
    Ph- 204 724 8418

  86. HabFanSince72 says:

    They could fire the idiot who didn’t listen to him.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  87. boing007 says:

    Trade gill, moen, gomez, kaberle, campoli, palushaj, (add one or two more, if needed) to Columbus for Nash. Trade half the team if you like, but keep AK and Pleks, DD line, Eller, Bourque, LL. Good scoring punch there.

    Richard R

  88. SmartDog says:

    What are the players gonna say “I can’t stand that guy”?
    Do you really think that they’re not bugged that he scores once a year and that he still is messing up drills with his East-West play?

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  89. ont fan says:

    Well we pretend to be GM’s Coach’s and players..why not mindreaders

  90. LA Loyalist says:

    We see what’s on the ice. That’s the evidence. We’re the jury because we pay the bills.

  91. ZepFan2 says:

    “Palushaj is not an NHLer. He looks like he never will be. He’s like Gomez light.”

    Then shouldn’t YOU be advocating more ice time for Palushaj? Considering you’re the leading tank driver.

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  92. SmartDog says:

    Uh, yah Zep, that’s what he said.

    Guess you didn’t read to the end, just hit the “reply”.

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  93. ZepFan2 says:

    @smartdog

    Lol Yeah, I guess I couldn’t finish reading HH’s post.

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  94. shiram says:

    I was running with the joke HH. as I was also one to say he should use a longer hockey stick.

  95. DearyLeary says:

    That’s what people call ‘negotiating in bad faith’. People think that the team has acted in a classless manner up until this point in the season, this would only exacerbate the issue.

  96. shiram says:

    Contracts cannot be renegotiated.

  97. sanman_11 says:

    THE CBA has a clause that says no renegotiation of contracts.

    I’m a HABS fan not a Leaf blower.

  98. ont fan says:

    That’s why they have recallable waivers..another team gets a deal

  99. HabinBurlington says:

    Thanks Shiram, CBA rule.

  100. DearyLeary says:

    Makes my point moot. But the reason it’s in the CBA is that exact reason. It’s unfair to offer a player a contract if you can try to muscle them out of it.

  101. shiram says:

    Not happening, contracts cannot be renegotiated, the only thing Gomez could do to save the Habs some salary is to retire.

  102. shiram says:

    That would be a new contract, so the old one would not have any impact.

  103. shiram says:

    He is a RFA on an entry level deal, no clue about arbitration.
    I just think 1 million might not be able to keep him, considering he is aleady paid 984k plus a signing bonus of nearly 300k.

  104. Mike D says:

    Gomez’s salary goes down to 5.5mil next year and 4.5 the year after, but his cap hit remains at 7.357mil for the duration of the contract.

    And yeah, Kabs has no place on the team. Hopefully we can get something of value if/when we trade him.

    – Honestly yours

  105. habsperspective says:

    What really irks me, is the loss of Spacek, with regards to Kaberle, and of course, they would be both involved in the loss the other night.

    Ive had enough of the insight of PG, he has raped and pillaged this club relentlessly.

  106. powdered toastmann says:

    With the mgmnt this team has in place now and in recent years…these are indeed dark days.

  107. shiram says:

    The only buyout I would like for Gomez, is if there’s a free buyout with the new CBA. But apparently that was an exception in the last CBA, because of the imposed cap and new rules.

    So yeah, if no free buyouts, AHL would be the way to go, if the Habs are lucky he might just retire after a while riding around on buses…

  108. kempie says:

    This is the winning answer. It doesn’t make much sense to do anything right now. It’s not like the cap relief we’d get would have money burning a hole in PG’s wallet in February, he’s already got lots of cap space. Wait until after the season, see if there’s a Gomez clause in the new CBA and then decide. There could even be a work stoppage approaching and that would change everything. There’s no rush to send him to the AHL right now.

  109. 123456 says:

    agree but would add europe to the AHL option.


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