Canadiens draft Jarred Tinordi

Pierre Gauthier trades up five spots to pick a big – 6’6″, projected to go to 230 lbs – defenceman who has impeccable bloodlines and was captain of the U.S. Under-18 national development team.

, the son of former NHLer Mark Tinordi, turned 18 in February.

Scouting reports laud a kid with size and the inclination to use it. Tinordi can skate and has a hard shot.

He is supposed to go to the University of Notre Dame this autumn. But Tinordi’s junior rights belong to the London Knights, and the Canadiens may wish to guide him toward a first-rate OHL organization and the coaching of Dale Hunter.

badly did the Canadiens want Tinordi?

To move up from 27 to 22,
the Canadiens surrendered their second-round pick.

The Vancouver
Canucks conditionally traded their pick, at 25, to Florida but would
have kept it if Tinordi were still available.

DRAFT AUDIO: Jarred Tinordi | Mark Tinordi | Guy Boucher



The Hockey News says Tinordi “is a better skater than his father was,
but both share an ability to play with an edge …

A scout said
“When he plays a physical, nasty, pass-first game, he’s as good as there
is. But when he starts to dangle, his warts show.

Another scout
compared Tinordi favourably to Robyn Regehr.

McKeen’s draft guide
says Tinordia is “the most physically ready of all USA NHL draft
eligible prospects.”

“Tinordi completes the package with a mean
streak and strong mobility. He is smooth moving backwards while not
sacrificing speed..

“He has healthy levels of speed while moving
forward and laterally while being mindful of his gap control and can
angle opponents to the boards and rub them out.

“Tinordi is not a
natural puck-rusher, but he can execute first passes with alarming
accuracy. He did great job improving his puck skills from the beginning
of the year by keeping his head up and showing more patience with it.

captain was the first to protect his teammates and did not back down
from any physical confrontations this season.

“Tinordi is a great
defence partner for a smaller, offensive-minded defender (like Mac
Bennett?) He can stay with plays, amke good outlet passes and bodyguard
when necessary.”

The influential Red Line Report says:

“Massive stay-at-home rearguard with excellent character,
bloodlines, and leadership. Dependable, shutdown defender, always thinks
defense-first, and his crease coverage is among the best of this class –
colossal frame and nasty disposition form an impenetrable barrier
between opponents and his goalie.

“Readily protects teammates and will
drop the gloves. Reads and reacts to plays well at the defensive end.
Effectively closes his man off to the wall and staples him there. Only
has one gear, but shows functional mobility for a big man.

“Uses long
stick/reach to break up lots of passes. Settles things down when team
gets in trouble in its own end. Difficult to beat in 1-on-1 situations
down low in puck battles or off the rush. Has no offensive upside but
avoids costly errors and makes safe, simple plays.”

Kurt Kleinendorst, Tinordi’s coach with the U.S. under-18 development team, says: “To me, a captain is a captain — I don’t care if you’re 17 or 35 years

“I’ve been very careful with Jarred and have
let him know that, while I understand he’s just 17, there are certain
things I’m going to expect from him and he’s been unbelievable. The way
he carries himself and the respect that the guys have for him in the
locker room has been great.”

A less enthusiastic scout’s assessment:

Tinordi has all the intangibles that would excite any scout.  He’s huge
and has great leadership abilities as he is wearing the “C”.  Tinordi
also seemed aware on the ice and has good hockey sense….defensively. 
Offensively, Tinordi struggled on the point as well.  In addition to the
blocked shots, Tinordi clearly does not have the agility that his
fellow defenseman have.  Tinordi is an awkward skater without good
balance and footwork.  He will need to improve upon his skating and puck
skills when he’s at Notre Dame.  He’s clearly a project that if he
works out, will be a force on an NHL blueline.  There is just a lot of
work to be done.




  1. sh00n says:

    He’s actually 6’6”. Absolute beast. I hope Hal is still with the team by the time Tinordi gets up to the big leagues.

  2. deuce6 says:

    I could be wrong, but I believe he 6’6″ 207lbs..He looked a heck of a lot taller than 6’3″ on the

    Great pick for a good prospect with a great pedigree..Can’t question this one..Hockey will get a heck of a lot more greasy in our end of the rink for the opposition, that’s for sure..

  3. crabvader says:

    That’s what he’s most praised for aside from his stature. He’s a leader.

  4. takuto97 says:

    Agreed, agreed, agreed. This kid will become a major leader, is tough as nails, with size, and has the solid character that PG (or BG behind the scenes, if you like….BG= Bob Gainey in the Back Ground) seem to be slowly but steadily accumulating in the dressing room and on the ice. An absolute winner!

  5. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Wow a big hockey player….but does he habs a big heart,eh?

  6. Bill J says:

    Since he’s your man, maybe time to point out the proper spelling of his last name.



  7. Clay4bc says:

    Andrew, that remains to be seen. But we know that Halak is ready NOW, don’t we? And even if this young man (Eller) is great, so what? What did PG do to address our glaring need for a real NHL quality goaltender – a deficiency that he created, I might add. If Price is so great, why did he not play in the playoffs? Answer – because Halak is far and away the better goalie. Funny to see Sergei mention it in his interview. Classless for a player to say about his teammate (SK is kind of an idiot), but we all know it’s the truth, and likely what the rest of the players are thinking.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  8. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    it’s not your fault your old and fat bugs!

  9. andrewberkshire says:

    Almost nothing being one of the most highly touted NHL ready prospects in the NHL.

  10. Clay4bc says:



    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  11. Clay4bc says:

    PG is certainly not doing a “great” job as GM – he just traded a great goalie for almost nothing, and left us with Price in net.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  12. G-Man says:

    2-3 seasons and maybe. Big guys take longer unless they are superb skaters. TInordi isn’t…yet. Give him time and he can join O’Byrne as the young Towers of Power on the Habs D.

  13. avatar_58 says:

    Good call! I didn’t notice…oops

  14. crabvader says:

    Heh, Tinordi might get mentored by Dale Hunter. I’ll take that anyday.

  15. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Good move. Great pick.

  16. Bugs says:


    We didn’t draft MARK; we drafted his son.

    …connection, he says…

    Stay in Toranna, Tony; we got everything covered here, thanks.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  17. likehoy says:

    deal a prospect + 4th to get a 2nd…only way i can see it getting done

    do we feel our prospect will be better than the 2nd rounder or not? that’s the bottom line.

  18. ed lopaz says:

    I have to say I love the pick.

    EXACTLY what I (and many others here) have been hoping for: character + size+  talent

    This guy is the “anti” Khabanov.

    Teams win when they have players like this.

    And, this continues a fine trend from last year.

    I can tell you first hand – Louis Leblanc has the same strength of character.

    Maybe I was too quick to judge Gauthier.

    Maybe he gets it.

    If you want to build a winning team, ever player has to be on the same page.

    Now, get rid of the Tits brothers, and get us a few more picks, please!!


  19. GrimJim says:

    Total hottie, the red-head in the Hyundai commercial

  20. Jbird says:

    One year in London or Notre Dame then a year in the Hammer then montreal – more like 2 years and 3 months.  

  21. WarHero says:

    Could be :) I was hoping for Gionta myself. Georges might have also been there due to Tinordi being a d-man.


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  22. Bugs says:

    Might be in the minority here but I’m kinda disappointed in this pick.

    They shoulda gone for ME! The only reason they didn’t was that my girdle snapped and my gut fell out during the interview. That wasn’t my fault; it was Bodyshapers!

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  23. adam76 says:

    somehow – I will sleep tonight.

  24. Bugs says:

    You KNOW she beat out a ton of qualified anchors to get the job, right?

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga:

  25. adam76 says:

    I have to say, I love Kate Beirness

  26. adam76 says:

    He should be – would be pumped to see him with the C.

  27. SmartDog says:

    There’s a lot of logic to this pick I like.

    Not only is he big, gritty, a good passer, responsible, a leader, and can “rub out attackers” (THAT’s what we NEED more of!) but to say he’s “the most physically ready of all USA NHL draft eligible prospects”  means he’ll hopefully develop sooner and not later.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  28. Tis Himself says:

    This was a solid pick and a much-better one than I would have hoped for. And, he’s going to get top-notch coaching at Notre Dame. This is not the second coming of David Fischer.

  29. pmaraw says:

    he says he’ll be ready in 3 years???

  30. novahab says:

    The draft is not over yet PG could pull some more rabbits out of his hat.

  31. krob1000 says:

    Damn…..I wanted Kreider last year and Etem this year.  I like Tinordi from what I read and knowing his Dad had a heart the size of the Prairies but I would love another pick real soon…..

  32. krob1000 says:

    Was projected right around where we got him…..he is years away from playing coming out of US hockey…probably 1 year at notre dame, one year in hamilton and then hopefully he can make the big club… way he plays next year and not likely the season after unless we are really hurting on the backend due to injury.

  33. novahab says:

    Tinordi may has grown up in the states but his blood line says he a western Canadian boy with a mean streak I say this could be the steal of the draft.  PG is doing a great job as the GM all he needs now is for Leblanc to be our next Lafleur and bring that dam cup back where its belongs.

  34. ProHabs says:

    I was hoping PG was going to trade the first round pick 27 to Florida for both of there early second round picks (both between 30-37) as I like those players that are still available as well as Alex Petrovik and Pitlick. However I am happy with Tinordi.

  35. Hamayoune says:

    This looks like we have a prospect other than you-know-who to hype about. Let’s hope we give him time to develop although I, myself, want him to make the big jump next year.

    Can someone here tell me why he was still available this late in the first round? (i.e. were there better defencemen or was it a steal?)

  36. krob1000 says:

    There are some uazlity players left on that board and I would love to get another pick ASAP and try and get MCfarland, Etem or even KAbanov…they are all high ceiling guys with question marks…but they are all potential steals and I too am a little disappointed we couldn;t move one of our assets but it is still early so maybe something goes down tomorrow but you never know how the Habs rankings went…maybe all of their top picks are gone and they aren;t interested in the guys I mentioned….I just think all of them have something to prove and I would bet that at least one of them turns into a 30 goal guy some day.

  37. Keith says:

    “The captain was the first to protect his teammates and did not back down from any physical confrontations this season.” This is EXACTLY the type of player the Habs need going forward.

  38. likehoy says:

    anyone else disappointed we no longer have a 2nd round pick? 2nd rounders is where we go to work!

  39. SeriousFan09 says:

    Bold move to jump five spots, but Tinordi is credited with being an exceptional leader and a strong shutdown defencemen with great size, he could be a pillar on the back end for years. I like the move to add not just a strong blueliner, but one with leadership qualities as well.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  40. krob1000 says:

    I sure wold like us to move someone to get a second pick right about now…..with a few guys left who I find really interesting….like Mcfarland, Etem, Kabanov ….. all three of these guys interest me…Ka banov is the most talented elft, Mcfarland has something to prove after slipping and Etem has a natural goal scoring ability and is one of the fastest guys in the draft…..speed is completely unteachable so that one always interests me….anyone with genuine speed can be an NHler player, sometimes they ahve to adapt and become checkers, pk gus,etc but more often than not they at least become NHlers….combine speed with Hands…yikes…..I think I would really like to get that Etem kid the more I think about it.  What do we have to offer up to get an early second pick.

  41. habsfan321 says:

    Random facts about Tinordi:

    NHL Team: Washington Capitals
    NHL Player: Nicklas Backstrom
    Shootout move: “Backhand toe drag”
    Video Game: Call of Duty
    Movie: Blood Diamond
    TV Show: The Office
    Actress: Megan Fox
    Music Artist: Notorious B.I.G.
    Book: “Playing With Fire” by Theo Fleury
    Home-cooked meal: Casserole
    Activities away from the rink: Xbox, Basketball

  42. TripleX says:

    That would be another good move by PG.  Gorges is the obvious choice to be captain as he has all the qualities a Montreal Canadiens  captain should have.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  43. Jbird says:

    That is what I’m thinking.

  44. TripleX says:


    If only the BIG BIRD was along to mentor PK Suban, O’Byrne and Tinordi.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  45. TomNickle says:

    This may be premature, but Josh Gorges at the draft table.

    I don’t think it would be outlandish to suggest that he’s your next captain Hab fans.


  46. Jbird says:

    Seems like the only player at the Habs table is my man (and yours) Josh Georges.  

  47. TripleX says:


    We won’t know for years if the gamble works out but I like that PG made the move.  What a welcome change from the last GM.

    Even the trade of my favorite player showed a GM with decisiveness and a willingness to make tough moves that are up for debate.  The easiest and safest move is to do nothing.  To make a decision means you are willing to be judged on it’s merits.

    I could have been wrong about PG being simply a clone of Bob.  I hope so because I really want a winner in Montreal.


    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  48. krob1000 says:

    HE;s a Tinordi so you can bet your ass he’ll have heart…….most reports say he needs more technical work on his skating and has very limited offense upside.  I think he is being drafted as a Rick Green type of guy to play with Markov or Subban to allow them some space.  His size is very O’Byrnish and thus far so his scouting report… will beinteresting because with his size if he can quickly adapt to forwards peed and the pace of the mental game at higher levels he could be ready in 2/3 seasons with his size.  Likely one year at Notre Dame, one year with the Bulldogs and then showtime.

  49. deuce6 says:

    Gill, O’Byrne, and Tinordi..OB is the shortest at 6’5″

  50. ProHabs says:

    Yes, hire his dad to be our defence coach and lets see this kid play for the Habs next year.

  51. habs-hampton says:

    Size matters!

    and his father is Canadian (Red Deer) , so that’s where the bloodlines come from!

  52. deuce6 says:

    Well, if he is as half as good at what his father brought to the table, he is a heck of a pick….I always like Mark Tinordi..He played the game how it was meant to be played..With heart and a tonne of grit…

  53. 24 Cups says:

    I agree.  Hamrlik and SK74 have little trade value right now.  That’s OK when it comes to Hamrlik, he’s done a decent job for three years but now it’s time to focus on the 5.5M.  I’d keep Sergei and somehow try and highlight him when he looks good (maybe coming out of training camp) and then try and move him (or use him on the 3rd line)

  54. NightRyder says:

    The cap floor is something like $43M next year. Some teams are going to have to spend.

    I think we could move the Hammer, we just won’t get much back.

  55. ABHabsfan says:

    A good word from Boucher could get SK to TB but I agree it would be a late round pick. If it is only a late rounder maybe it would not be worth it since SK is already an NHL player ( say what you will) and a late rounder is a crap-shoot at best. SK for a 3rd round pick or keep him and try to change his ways. A team with cap space and the need for short term d help is the onlt dance patner to move Hammer, if he is agreeable to it.

    I would like to see the Habs pick Jordan Messier of TRi-cities later in the draft if possible because his dad is in my beer league and he is NOT a Habs fan. I would love to be able to bug him. Also Jordan is a big kid who can score, went to ND

  56. ABHabsfan says:

    I think there is a rule that you cannot buy out guys who are over 35. You are on the hook, full pop, unless they retire. I could be wrong but that is why you see a lot of these long term contracts that are front loaded but do not count against the cap as much when yo average it out.

  57. 24 Cups says:

    Ed – I’m dead set against buying out Hamrlik.  The cap hit would 1.8M a season for the next two seasons.  That becomes 2.3M when you add in Laraque’s buyout.  That’s like playing a man short (roster wise) for the next two years.  The equivalent of not have a Hal Gill of a Travis Moen.

    I would rather place him on waivers and see if anyone bites.  Then we get all the coin and can take it and sign a UFA Dman for around 2M.  You could also indirectly bank another 1.5M in order to add it to Markov’s new contract in 2011.  That would still leave you with 2M to dole out on other player raises or pick up a gritty  bottom six forward forward.

    Failing all of that, bring him back this season and then trade him after Christmas for a pick.  Maybe a 3rd rounder to help offset the Moore pick (2nd rounder) that we lost this year.  That would also help us out with the Markov injury.  Hamrlik usually gets off to a decent start once he’s had the off-season to rest up so it might even be a win-win situation.

  58. 24 Cups says:

    AB – that only applies to players who were 35 and older when they signed their contracts.  Spacek and Kovalev are examples of that rule.

  59. SeriousFan09 says:

    Volchenkov is going to be looking at 5 million though for at least a 5-year term though and that puts in cap trouble for extending Markov or giving Subban his first extension when that comes up. Thanks to the Komisarek contract (which we didn’t help when Gainey offered him 4 mil) the defensive defencemen market has become a place of inflated value. Martin could command in that region as well, I think the team needs to chase someone like Michaelek instead, cheaper but does a lot of the same work.

    I suspect Hamrlik is coming free, but at the same time, they can’t commit what he’s freeing up to one name, the 5.5 is likely for acquiring a free agent and working space within signing the existing player.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  60. ABHabsfan says:


  61. ABHabsfan says:


  62. SeriousFan09 says:

    Doubtful, a team is doing us a favour by picking up Hamrlik’s contract really unless they’re desperate and SK’s well-publicized attitude problems make him a part of a package or a late pick at best.

    Granted, maybe Darryl Sutter forgot his medication in CGY like he did during the trade frenzy last season.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  63. ed lopaz says:

    why not just buy out Hamrlik’s contract – assuming we can’t get anyone to take his 5.5 million off our hands?

    what are the negatives to buying him out?

    It costs us 1.5 million against the cap – is that right? for 2 or 3 years?

    That saves us 4 million.

    We could go after Volchenkov, Martin or Mitchell – there are so many UFA defenceman this year!! many are way better “value” than Hamrlik.


  64. andrewberkshire says:

    I missed that, but still, huge numbers.

  65. Puck Bard says:

    We’re getting smaller. “Drink me”

  66. NightRyder says:

    Have some fun today PG. Shake up the world!

    Gomez, Price and O’Byrne to Vancouver for Luongo and Bieksa. We think Gomez’s deal is a killer, Bobby Lou’s 12-year extension doesn’t even kick in until next year.

    Then flip the K brothers, Hamrlik and next year’s No. 1 for Spezza.


    Actually, I think O’Byrne and Sergei for Bieksa would be interesting.

  67. smiler2729 says:

    You live in fantasy GM world. Please get real.

  68. andrewberkshire says:

    Not to mention look at his PIMs, apparently he’s a very tough kid to boot.

  69. TomNickle says:

    Good draft for the team I think.  Obviously it’s too early to say that but it looks like they put a premium on quality rather than quantity.

    Fact is we’ve got 14 forwards ready to play for the Dogs.  And then on top of that we have a bunch more unsigned.

    We do need to get a couple of defensemen under contract to play in Hamilton but that shouldn’t be too big of an issue.

    I see a big focus being put on character guys since the 07-08 Disaster season.

    Hopefully their homework pays off.

  70. SeriousFan09 says:

    Ballard was a poor choice if VAN was really looking to make their D stronger for next sure, considering how far Fowler and Gormley fell and the need to acquire Top-4 defence, they should’ve made a play for the teens, even after those two there were some serious names on defence. Their quest for the Cup needs a Top-10 NHL defencemen and Ballard isn’t even top 20 if the current top 20 were injured.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  71. 24 Cups says:

    Hamhuis to the Pens.  (I’m not sure if this has already been posted).

    A bit of a strange deal by Sl. Louis trading away a 1st round pick from last year (Dman David Rundblad) for Ottawa’s 1st rounder in yesterday’s draft.  I guess they really liked the guy that was available, seeing that you wouldn’t sour on a young player you hav eonly had for one year.

    The Ballard deal is kind of a puzzler, as well.  He’s decent but not great.  Maybe a tad overrated (but so is Bernier).  Alll I can think of is that Vancouver wants to really go for it again next year and wanted to add a veteran even though it cost them two good prospects.  Ballard (27) also is signed for five more years at 4.2M a season so Vancouver gets the security of having a signed, long term asset in the fold.  It certainly was a very strange top ten grouping.

    Who shite the bed yesterday?  It had to be Columbus for sure.  Maybe Boucher did make the right choice by going to Tampa.

    Winners?  You can’t beat Anaheim’s picks and Colorado has to be one of the best drafting teams in the history of the league.  Don’t look now but Matt Duchene is getting ready to pass John Tavares.

  72. HFX-HabFan says:

    I thought the Blues-Sens deal was more strange on the Ottawa side of things.  Usually when a first rounder is moved with no other picks involved, it means there is a roster-ready player going the other way.  Ottawa already has Karlsson; Rundblad is a slightly bigger version of him by all accounts.  Why wouldn’t the Sens at least get a third or fourth (or both) round pick back with a prospect who is unproven at the NHL level?

    The Johansen pick was a bit high but I don’t think he’ll be a bust.  And I really liked the Isles’ taking of Niederreiter at fifth overall; put that guy alongside Tavares and magic could happen.  Although I’m sure the sportswriters are regretting that he didn’t fall into Carolina’s hands (“El Nino Becomes a Hurricane!” headlines would have been everywhere).

  73. Bill J says:

    Not at all PB your right at least in my case, I just answered the question as honestly as I could.  It is after all a LATE round pick who scored 41 goals in the WHL. 

    As Tom said, who know this kid may grow into a 5’10” or 5’11” body…

  74. Anonymous says:

    That’s why I said before. Either way, far be it from me to mention how logical and thought out most responses on this board are to any move the club makes.

  75. mrhabby says:

    why not give some credit where its do…we needed to add size and quality which we did and if you have to move up so be it. lots of other teams due it…all this nit picking.

  76. Max_a_million says:

    I have to say I like very much how sure of himself Gauthier is.

    With Moore, with Halak, with Plekanek, with Tinordi … He knows what he is doing, and is going after it.

    In the end it’s possible he is wrong, and gets the axe for it.  I do like his style though, and I hope it bears great fruit.

  77. SmartDog says:

    good points.

    It’s hard to know of course if Tinordi was a good pick but as you say he seems a better bet than some others we might have taken, and he seems to have tools that are valuable today.  Not like a “shifty winger” who might find himself shut down when he gets to the bigger leagues.

    And THANK YOU for getting my point (no-one else on here seems to).  I’m not second-guessing that past or specific trades etc. but a bit of a pattern of morgtgaging the future too readily.  And as you say, we don’t have prospects so we trade picks, and then we don’t have more prospects.  You can’t do that.  At some point you have to just go hungry for awhile and stock up the cupboard again.   Or trade some of what’s valuable to get a brighter future.  This idea that the Habs are ALWAYS a contender or have to be is part of the problem.  It’s crazy.  Hopefully PG gets it.  I’m still not sure what I think of him but I think some things he’s done so far have been quite smart.    I think the Halak trade, whether it turns out or not (and I would have traded Price but whatever, one had to go), at least showed good focus on our true needs.  If Eller works out well and Price doesn’t tank it wil have been a smart move from a RESOURCE point of view, and that’s the point I am trying to make.  It’s not about the heart or about ‘feel’ or even about ‘making a run’… it’s about moving the team forward into the future.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  78. Clay4bc says:

    interesting that what you consider a “silly’ opinion is the opinion of almost every hockey writer on the planet…but I am sure that they are all wrong, and you – and the 3 or 4 other Price apologists here – are correct.

    Of course he is not the ONLY reason, but he was clearly the BIGGEST reason. His play was phenomenal. With Price in net, we wouldn’t even have made the playoffs. Wait and see this season, Bill. Price will in all lilelihood be the back-up goalie by the halfway mark of the season. Unless, of course, the plan is to tank intentionally.

    (your turn, as we all know you need the last word)


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  79. Bill J says:

    Clay well placed last line, but I still will not play this game with you.

    You are clearly trying to bait me now, likely because I called you out.  But you will note, at no point in this discussion was I rude.  I called an opinion that ONE player was the sole reason for the Habs success silly.  And even you can not argue that point.

    interesting that what you consider a “silly’ opinion is the opinion of
    almost every hockey writer on the planet…

    I could care less what NON-Hockey management think of Halak, I am more interested in what Habs management has to say about Halak &/or Price.  As THEY are clearly running the show ;)  Not the media, or the fans.

    Your a smart guy, I will certainly credit you that much, however your like a bull in a china shop, and I think you take these discussions as a personal attack.

    BTW – I ain’t perfect either, I’m just saying AGAIN - You’re no better then the rest of us, therefore Who the hell do you think you are to judge members ?  When you can quite easily be judged yourself ?

    I on the other hand HOPE you can reply, and perhaps heed your own advice, and be a bit more respectful in your words, as I have carefully attempted with your constant disrespect provided to me.

  80. Clay4bc says:

    Poor Bill…so hard done by. Clay has disrespected him…

    Bill, I respectfully say that this was a dumb-a** trade, and the Habs will regret it. Price is not the guy. Halak, on the other hand, is. As well, I respectfully submit that Habs management is in all likelihood the only NHL management who would have made this riduculous trade. So what they think (or clearly don’t think) means nothing to me. I will make my own mind up, and I don’t need them, you, or anyone else to tell me what to think.

    Respectful enough for you?


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  81. Clay4bc says:

    I guess the difference is too subtle for you to see, Bill, so I will spell it out for you.

    The difference is that I never instigate the rudeness. I will respond in kind, yes – and gladly – to rudeness directed at me or others. I will not be bullied into accepting someone else’s opinions, however, and will not turn the other cheek when provoked.

    Clear enough for you?


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  82. davecessna says:

    So what about drafting a center for a change.

  83. SeriousFan09 says:

    You mean like Louis Leblanc, Joonas Nattinen, Gabriel Dumont, Dustin Walsh and Michael Cichy from 2009 and the signing of Andreas Engqvist and the acquistion of Lars Eller? Canadiens added 7 centres to their depth chart since last Draft day. Canadiens need some big bodies on D and scoring wingers to improve at those positions.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  84. Adam says:

    Pretty crazy that Khabanov wasn’t taken. I can’t remember the last time a guy with that kind of talent slipped all the way to the second round. Can’t say I blame any of the teams for taking a pass.

  85. HardHabits says:

    Dale Tallon has been really aggressive since he joined Florida. Gonna be very interesting to see what he does in there the next few years.

  86. crabvader says:

    Well, suffice to say that Timmins got another kid from Minnesota! :P

    Tinordi was born in Burnsville, MN.

    His dad Mark was playing for the North Stars at the time.

    Timmins, you sly bastard!

    (I understand that he was only born there but that’s enough for Timmins!) :P

  87. crabvader says:

    SF states a good point.

    Tell me how many stay-at-home, big and solid d-men we have in our prospect system. Not many.

  88. PeterD says:

    The positive reports from scouts have me thinking of a young Larry Robinson…Now that would be a huge draft for us.

    I hope tomorrow brings a trade of SK adn AK for some grit and skill that will actually play with comittment for us

  89. crabvader says:

    Sucks that Tinordi being drafted first by the Habs doesn’t make the front page of

    Instead, they keep that boneheaded “TAYLOR BEFORE TYLER” crap.

    I mean, really, who cares?


    No, instead RDS is headlining Edmonton. Good job!


    Gotta wonder if Tinordi was born in Quebec what the headline would be, though…

  90. crabvader says:

    Also, I still want to say that the worst move on draft day was made by Vancouver.

  91. SeriousFan09 says:

    If he can just hit like Robinson, I’ll be extremely pleased. However, I would say there hasn’t been a player in the NHL since Larry in his prime, who in the NHL could drop the toughest pugilist in the league, play a great defensive game and score all at once?

    Tinordi could be a monster on the back end for defensive purposes, good solid team man as well from all reports, just the right kind of player for the team to continue building the core on.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  92. oshawahabsfan says:

    I’d really like to see PG trade to get back into the second round. Landing McFarland or Kabanov would be great

  93. nightmare_49 says:

       NHL Draft: Jarred Tinordi Profile.

       “Tinordi is a chip off the old block. His father, Mark Tinordi, was once a physical, defensive defenseman in the NHL who punished the opposition and the younger Tinordi plays the exact same way. He not only mirrors his father’s game, but also his size as he stands a firm 6’6″ and weighs 205 pounds. The most physically ready of the USA NHL draft eligible prospects, Tinordi completes the package with a mean streak and strong mobility.”
    - McKeens 2010 NHL Guide.

       “Massive stay-at-home rearguard with excellent character, bloodlines, and leadership. Dependable, shutdown defender always thinks defense first and his crease coverage is among the best of this class – colossal frame and nasty disposition form an impenetrable barrier between opponents and his goalie. Readily protects teammates and will drop the gloves. Reads and reacts to plays well at the defensive end. Effectively closes his man off to the wall and staples him there. Only has one gear, but shows functional mobility for a big man. Uses long stick/reach to break up lots of passes. Settles things down when team gets in trouble in its own end. Difficult to beat in 1-on-1 situations down low in puck battles or off the rush. Has no offensive upside but avoids costly errors and makes safe, simple plays.”
       – Red Line Report 2010 Draft Guide



  94. nightmare_49 says:

       No trade wave, but teams still buzzing / Pierre LeBrun

       Evgeni Nabokov might be on the move before the weekend is out, or at least his rights. On Friday, the San Jose Sharks, who decided not to bring back the pending UFA goalie, were approached by two teams who had interest in obtaining his rights. One of those teams is the Philadelphia Flyers, has confirmed. Neither Flyers GM Paul Holmgren nor Sharks GM Doug Wilson would comment on it.

  95. SlovakHab says:

    In the Stanley Cup finals in 1991.

  96. nightmare_49 says:

       Tallon still ready to deal on Day#2 of the draft / George Richards – On frozen Pond

       Going into Saturday, Tallon has four second round picks (Nos. 33, 36, 50 and 59), two fourths (92, 93), a fifth (123), sixth (153) and seventh (183).

    “We’re taking one step at a time. We have a ton of picks, we’re going to address some needs and see where we go from there,” he said.


  97. The Cat says:

    I dont want to be negative but another american? Has this recipe been successful yet? Why dont they like canadian kids?

  98. SlovakHab says:

    So perhaps you could suggest a Canadian player that was still available at 22nd spot that looked better than Tinordi?

    D Pysyk, LW Howden and and G Visentin were 3 Canadian players drafted in the remaining picks of the 1st round..

    11 Americans selected, all after top 10. And USA won a couple of World Juniors, so they might be all right. We got the best player available and I don’t care if he’s from USA, Australia or China (as long as he doesn’t bolt to KHL) :)

  99. SlovakHab says:

    Anaheim Ducks had an excellent first round! Got Cam Fowler 12th overall and Emerson Etem 29th overall.

  100. Puck Bard says:

    Holy Smoke:  Canes have 3 second round picks today. Florida Four. Chicago?  Five!

  101. santeri says:

    However, I would say there hasn’t been a player in the NHL since Larry
    in his prime, who in the NHL could drop the toughest pugilist in the
    league, play a great defensive game and score all at once?

    Vladimir Konstantinov. But yes, a rare breed indeed.

  102. g says:

    Analyse this: Jarred Tinordi 


    NHL Team: Washington Capitals
    NHL Player: Nicklas Backstrom
    Shootout move: “Backhand toe drag”
    Video Game: Call of Duty
    Movie: Blood Diamond
    TV Show: The Office
    Actress: Megan Fox
    Music Artist: Notorious B.I.G.
    Book: “Playing With Fire” by Theo Fleury
    Home-cooked meal: Casserole

    Activities away from the rink: Xbox, Basketball

    “Long before I ever wore the jersey, I wore the jersey.” Dryden

  103. Puck Bard says:

    Blood Diamond?

  104. G-Man says:

    Enough with the one-note $hit, okay? Gainey is not the worst GM ever. I’d say all those GMs who have never won anything are infinitely worse (because of their track record).

    Tinordi is a giant. After moving up to trade him, the Habs are definitely high on him. In 3 seasons, he’ll be a tower of power alongside O’Byrne.

  105. G-Man says:

    Why take a whack job from a place that doesn’t have a transfer agreement with the NHL? That would be completely stupid. A 5th round pick waster, maybe?

  106. HabFanSince72 says:


    I presume they’re referring to his mom’s side of the family.

    His dad was a journeyman at best.

  107. The Cat says:

    Youre right but I cant offer comparisons, I dont follow hockey to that extent. I certainly hope he works out, I remember his father playing back in the day…I offer no stats but it seems canadian draft picks seem more NHL ready, most americans play in lower level leagues as well which may be why they dont adjust as well to the NHL as canadians do, or it could be my imagination too.

  108. Puck Bard says:

    His old man sure could take a punch!

    Tinordi v. Probert

    Burke on Kaberle trade stall:  “Patience is a virtue, and this is one of those times. If it doesn’t happen this weekend, then it doesn’t.”

    Yes, Brian Burke: Mr. Patient. 

  109. The Cat says:

    Nah thats harsh, I remember his old man.

  110. Puck Bard says:

    “a lot of work to be done”  Ugggh! Why do we always get Summer homework assignments?

  111. SlovakHab says:

    Well, his father is Canadian, so there is this kind of connection.

    He will learn a lot from his father’s advice + will either play for London (OHL) ane be coached by Dale Hunter, or will attend a NCAA program which I heard it not too bad.. I am cautiously optimistic on this pick.

    We have obtained 2 good and young Canadian kids in Louis Leblanc and Ian Schultz recently (+ other ones in lower rounds of 2009 draft), so I am not too worried about the lack of ‘Canadian toughness, grit and heart’.

  112. Puck Bard says:

    Most teams no longer have the stomach to gamble on such a prospect. He’s a roll of the dice at this point. Florida’s got picks to burn in round 2. Tallon’s not shy about taking chances, so you might see a move there tonight. 

  113. twilighthours says:

    Scott Stevens.

  114. SlovakHab says:

    Journeymen don’t play 736 games in the NHL.

    In 1991, when the North Stars played the Stanley Cup finals, he was almost a half-a-point-per-game player with 32p in 69 games in the regular season and 11p in 23 playoff games.

  115. g says:

    He was tough


    “Long before I ever wore the jersey, I wore the jersey.” Dryden

  116. bigjames says:

    i still remember larry hitting guys in clear ice as they tried to cross our blue line. BAM, and they were on their butt wondering what happened. just awesome. have always been a huge larry robinson fan!


  117. SlovakHab says:

    Chris Pronger?

  118. Bill J says:

    Kinda agree with ya cv, I expect the same bias the Maple Laughs get from TSN on RDS.

    WTF is this business of highlighting another team on the front page ? WTF is up with that.


    OH I KNOW…. RDS hates anything that is not french, they probably thought the Habs should have drafted someone that will end up being picked in the 6th round instead.


  119. Bill J says:

    Larry will never be replicated.

    I highly doubt we see a D-Man get a +/- rating of +100 or more EVER again.

    Granted his stats relate as well to the team who played with him, Pronger & Stevens (mentioned below) never came close to +100.


  120. HNS says:

    Me thinks getting rid of Halak will bite us in the ass big time. As soon as Price does his mister softie routine, the euterus will drop out. Hope the people that maintain this site goes for the xtra server bandwith upgrade.

  121. SmartDog says:

    How many games did Crosby’s dad play in the NHL?  I forget.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  122. SmartDog says:

    Can Megan Fox act?

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  123. SmartDog says:

    Yes, you’re right!

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  124. Bill J says:

    Perhaps it is time for you to stop thinking then, if the ONLY thing you can think about is THAT.

    Why not think about the 1st round pick the Habs took last night, perhaps talk about that ?

    Because no offence, you aint a NHL employee, or a NHL teams employee.

    So I will leave the “thinking” to the people who ARE in those jobs, and THEY say Price is ready.  Food for thought Mr Think-meister.

    P.S. – The people saying Price is ready, are the same people who built the team that made the ECF this past off-season (before you slag on the Habs Management team)


  125. madmat411 says:


  126. SmartDog says:

    ABOUT THE DRAFY IN TODAY’S NHL: there are GM’s out there who GET IT and then a lot (Gauthier included) who don’t.

    Tallon has 6 or 7 picks in the next two rounds.  We have NONE.  The Hawks have a lot too.  Now that’s smart.

    They make the sacrifices, make the trades they have to even if they’re not popular, to make the most of their ASSETS.  Gainey let all those free agents WALK…. we trade our picks like we did for Moore and now even though he played well it looks like we may not even resign him. We trade for a lot of guys we don’t keep – Tanguay – wouldn’t we like to have those picks back.  What the Leafs just did with Kessel is laughable.  They lost a franchise player with two more high draft picks still to come! But what the Habs have done over the last few yeras isn’t much better.

    It’s really bad judgment, or a surprisingly vacant understanding of how the development game works.  It’s just not smart.  And the teams that will win ARE smart.  They’re not just smart at development, they’re smart at the strategy of filling the funnel, swapping on-ice assets for picks, not trading for guys that don’t bring long-term value. Chicago’s Byfuglien was key to their play-off run. But they made the hard decisions quickly, and traded his ass to make the most of their ASSETS.  The Habs hang on to guys they should trade, trade for guys that don’t pan out. This is a losing path.

    Picks are especially important now becuase cheap young players are golden. You need them to win. Add to that the fact that each year the draft gets a little bigger.  The California kids are an example of that – hockey is growing so there are more good guys to pick up.  Tallon’s going to have a helluva bunch of assets to choose from in 3-5 years.

    To be clear: I like the Habs pick, sure.  But we don’t pick again until the 4th round.  We’re picking up half as many guys in this draft as most teams and a third as many (or less) as some teams.  Those are really bad odds.

    This isn’t trivial, it’s crucial.  How would you like to have TWICE as many picks as the next guy?  Or half as many?  Or less?

    The Habs either don’t get it or just have a
    string of bad luck and piss-poor judgment calls.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  127. smiler2729 says:

    No kidding, I’m so sick of Halak being sainted for what amounts to a typical solid season any goalie could have and a couple of great playoff games (he was pulled too a lot in the playoffs and crapped vs. Philly and last time I checked he didn’t score any goals. win any faceoffs and had defencemen blocking as many if not more shots than him in some games)…


  128. smiler2729 says:

    Journeyman? He played on the North Stars and the Caps over a decade… some journey.

  129. SlovakHab says:

    One of the winners of the draft along with Boston, perhaps?


    B.Burke is building the Bruins through the draft.

  130. smiler2729 says:

    Who’s Halak? Some goalie who plays for the ST. LOUIS FREAKIN’ BLUES. Who cares anymore? Horseshoes aside, the better goalie stayed.

  131. Puck Bard says:

    Meh. We all know why the Habs are in the position they are in with the draft. No use belaboring that point. Yes, Florida and Hawks are in good position: that’s the reward for past sacrifices they have made. 

  132. SmartDog says:

    Thank you.

    Exactly my point.  If you don’t make the sacrifices, you’re not going to win.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  133. CHsam says:

    whatever happened to Angelo Esposito?

  134. habsguy says:

    Doesn’t really matter anyway,  everyone here (yourself included) would trash his picks anyway!!!!!!

  135. McManager says:

    Any idea of what time they will resume the picks? (I assume it’s not on TV.)

  136. Ian Cobb says:

    I am all for quality over quanity. Give up 2 picks for one of the best kids in the draft is a great move.

    That is all you want at the draft, a chance to groom a player to be able to play in the NHL once he matures and receives good pro coaching.

    We have much better management working for the Habs the past 6 years. It is starting to show in Hamilton and Montreal. One piece at a time! Jarred Tinordi is a fine asset for us.

    My blog—–More Fan Summit Information


  137. Ian Cobb says:

    2pm until 7pm….7 rounds

  138. habsguy says:

    does it matter?


  139. habsguy says:

    Great flick!!!!

  140. SlovakHab says:

    Come on.

    You had had a signature that said something about Plekanec and lost opportunity with trading or signing him. Now you quickly removed it after he was signed to an extension. I will take your prediction on Moore with a pinch of a salt. I will also add. however, that if he is not signed, I will not perceive it positively and will agree with you in this regard.

    Halak was traded for 2 players who were former 1st and 3rd round picks. Just because they are not picks but already players doesn’t make them worse. Hence, my logic tells me we are not picking 5 times, but 7 times this off-season. This is an optimal number. 10 would be too many, because you only have a limited number of players on your farm team and having too many prospects could hurt their ice time and development.


    B.Burke is building the Bruins through the draft.

  141. c.robillard says:

    what kind of sacrifices should PG have made yesterday then? Hmmm? How do you know what PG and co. were trying to do and not do at the draft? Were you sitting at their table? Were you shoulder-reading PG’s blackberry?

  142. Puck Bard says:

    Right. Atlanta prospect. 12 games last season. No goals, 4 assists. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…

  143. Puck Bard says:

    Nice Ian.

  144. terrygain says:

    The raging Pricebots are not happy with you. After the way Saint Jaro played in this year’s playoffs Price will be booed mercilessly if he doesn’t play a lot better than he has in the last two years. Of course this was factored into Gauthier’s decision. Not. 

  145. SmartDog says:

    It’s not about specifics.   And I praised Gautheir for signing Pleks.  I was worried it wouldn’t happen. Just as people are asking why Price wasn’t signed at teh same time as Halak let go (and by people I mean sports writers), it seemed like a risky move.

    But the point is the pattern, not one or two deals.  So you missed the point.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  146. SmartDog says:

    I said in the post that I like the pick we made last night.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  147. terrygain says:

    You need some edting , Bill.


    P.S. – The people saying Price is ready, are the same people who built the team that made the ECF this past season because of Halak.

  148. SmartDog says:

    It’s not about ‘yesterday’.  It’s about a strategy. 

    When you’re down 5-0 in the last period, no-one can tellyou how to win.

    And the rest of your post “how do you know…” is just foolishness.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  149. Omit says:

    Saint Jaro?  Really?? 

    Where and when do we start building the shrine?

  150. c.robillard says:

    Ok, if you feel you have such a wonderful strategy for building teams in the NHL, why aren’t you employed by an NHL team?

    What are you talking about down 5-0? what does that have to do with anything?

  151. SmartDog says:

    I like the Tinordi pick okay.

    And I agree that the draft is more than a crap shoot.  But it’s simple statistics that having more picks is going to reap more good players. There are 30 teams of smart people out there and no-one has a chrystal ball.  The guys with a lot of picks, especially the higher picks are going to reap bigger rewards.  We’re in a bad position this year.  

    Again, not that PG’s move wasn’t good, but the Habs pattern of tossing draft picks on gambles has not exactly paid off. And we have one pick this year in the first 100 guys.  That’s not a good thing. 

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  152. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    OK all you arm-chair GM’s, here’s your chance, who did the Habs miss out on yesterday? Come on Boone, you had your list the other day of misses from past drafts, who did they miss out on last night? Where’s Tony? Who were Gauthier/Gainey blind to, at the draft? Where did they mess up? Who was the Mike Richards, the Claude Giroux’s, the Ryan Getlaf’s yesterday? Come on now don’t wait five years to tell us I told you so, here’s your chance, tell us all right now how the Habs messed up yesterday!

  153. SmartDog says:


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  154. Max_a_million says:

    I agree one piece at a time imrproving the franchise, it’s good to see. 

    It would be nice to see some of our young guys really break out into stardom here in the near future. 

  155. Max_a_million says:

    When you know what you want you get it.  Much better use of draft than maybe getting something or other later. 

  156. SlovakHab says:

    I didn’t. But I think you might have missed the context.

    2 years ago, we were Conference champions. In that season, if we traded some of our good players at the deadline, the city would have gone nuts. It was a contender team that just couldn’t beat Philadelphia. It was not time for trading players for picks. You would not have traded our players for picks that time either.

    1 year ago, it was our centennial. We were off a promising season, looking to go even further. Now, we had a bad season, but would you have traded Koivu or Kovalev at the trade deadline and risked a civil war? Would you have traded Komisarek or Streit for a 2nd round pick? It was a season of decisions and they wanted to give the players their chance in the playoffs. We know how that ended, but it was reasonable not to dismantle a team during our centennial. Moreover, Tanguay was just recently acquired for a 1st rounder and it would have looked horribly to unlad him for a 2nd rounder 5 months later. He was given a chance. If he stayed long-term and remained a strong top-6 forward for our team, nobody would have complained. However, it was him who crapped the bed, not the management. He disappointed with his disappearing act. (I know he was injured, but still didn’t play great when he was ok).

    We did trade Grabovski and Huet for picks. We drafted all right and re-stocked our farm. Fischer doesn’t look like a good pick now, but he did have a mono..

    It’s all about the context. If you change that 50-dollar note into coins, you will see that the Habs management hasn’t done so badly as we think. Maybe they relied on a wrong player personnel. Perhaps they predicted the future incorrectly in some occassions..

    But everyone does. And if you look at things in a context of that situation (because everyone can be a general after the war), you could perhaps understand a lot of their moves that you might have had disagreed with on the first sight..

  157. Mike Boone says:

    I like the pick, but Tinordi didn’t come cheap. The Canadiens passed on some forwards with size: Pitlick, Petrovic, MacFarland. But the organization wanted size and jam on the back end, and with McIlrath off the board …

  158. SmartDog says:

    Yeah, but your strategy also has to cast a wide net and respect that you can be wrong as often as right. 

    Remember in previous first rounds we ‘liked’ Kyle Chipchura, Mike Komiserik, Chris Higgins, Ron Hainsey, Aaron Ward…. etc.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  159. mike g says:

    I wouldn’t be so quick to bash him like Bird Puck below….

    He had an injury plagued season last year in the AHL due to a sliced tendon in his ankle, similar to Markov’s injury.

    However, he seems to be stronger and heavier than ever having worked on his physical condition alot. I used to play against him for 5 years back when I was in Pee-Wee and Bantam AA. He played for the “western” Montreal team because he lived around Decarie. I played for the eastern team because I lived in Anjou. If there was one thing lacking from his package, it was toughness and body size, not height though. He was always tall enough, but wasn’t thick. Incredible speed and shot.

    When he got drafted, I told my dad he may never play due to his lack of body toughness, and a history of previous concussions. I had followed him until last year, then we went for supper at my dad’s friends restaurant on St-Denis street, only to find out that my dads friend was Angelo’s uncle. He then told us about the sliced tendon, and how he was more committed to beefing up.

    I’m not sure what Atlanta’s plans are with him, but I say he’s got about 2-3 more years to crack their rebuilt lineup. If he doesn’t, he may not crack an NHL teams roster….

    But we’ll c..

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  160. Max_a_million says:

    Karnack says: Petr Straka

    He plays in the Q, so that would make for an obvious gaffe that the draftnics can pick apart not getting someone from your own back yard.  He has some size, and I am basically just a monkey tossing darts at a walll at this point. 

  161. SmartDog says:

    The thing I like most about this pick is that on top of good skills and size he seems to have the meanness in combination with leadership. Like a poor man’s Chris Pronger.  A denfenseman who likes to rub guys out along the boards and has the speed and size to do it… on top of his other assets, that seems like a really good addition to the team.  I hope he works out though, because he’s probably all we’re getting out of this year’s draft.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  162. Puck Bard says:

    ” Where is the Misty Mountain Hop where is the Smoke On The Water where is the Ironman of today? “

  163. Chris says:

    Minor correction…Jason Ward.  Aaron Ward actually had a nice career, especially for a 5th round draft pick by the Winnipeg Jets in 1991.

    That being said, I always did like Jason Ward.  Really thought he would become a good role player.  Ah well.

  164. Max_a_million says:

    Komisarek turned out really well.  Hainsey turned out very well, just took too long.  Chipchura had an injury take a step away that he couldn’t afford to lose. 

    I have always found that in life when you are sure about something you should get it.  Doesn’t always work out, but much more often so that the ones your not sure of.  Then you beat yourself up for years with coulda shouldas. 


  165. Max_a_million says:

    Maybe not.  Everyone knows who the best players are.  Timmins does his best work in the 7th round or so.  Keep your fingers and legs crossed.

  166. SmartDog says:

    I think that’s a good life philsophy.  You need to follow your instincts.

    But the draft is partly a chess game, and you need to be very strategic too.  The point about those other first round picks is that none were that great, and none are with our team now – and we didn’t exactl reap big rewards in trades for them either,  They’re all busts really.    So Tinordi looks great today – and he might be.  But realistically there’s at least a 50-50 chance we just traded away our 2nd round pick for a guy that won’t pan out as we hoped. 


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  167. SmartDog says:

    Thanks.  Yeah, slip of the fingers I think actually.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  168. mike g says:

    Jeff Skinner will be the best goalscorer out of the whole draft. When you talk about natural scorer’s in 6-7 years, Skinner will be there; playing with Eric Staal too.

    Nino Neiderreiter should have one heck of a career also. Say what you want about the NYI, they’ve got a bright future. Him, Tavares, Josh Bailey, Okposo, etc….

    And Brett Connolly should also turn out to be one heck of a player. In Tampa he’ll be with the french guys, but also building the team together with Stamkos and Hedman. He reminds me alot of Jeff Carter, mixed with the slick hands of a Getzlaf. If he can put the package together, watch out…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  169. nightmare_49 says:

      from Larry Brooks / NY Post

     Rangers take intimidating McIlrath with 10th pick in NHL draft …………………

  170. 24 Cups says:

    SD – I hear what you are saying but I’m not sure it applies to the Tinordi draft pick.

    There were two times during Gainey’s tenure that we could have stripped down and then rebuilt the team through the draft.  Right at the beginning back in the summer of 2003 (in a rich draft year) or last summer after the team that Gainey built imploded.  That approach will not be taken in the near future in light of all the UFA signings we have made.

    The Habs traded away some decent picks during the past few years in order to make a run at the Cup with the Koivu/Kovalev team.  At the time, those deals all made sense seeing that most of us thought they were a positive step forward to adding the final missing pieces.  We then followed that up by having to make desperation trades by giving away picks just to make the playoffs (Schneider, Moore).  Every time we did this it seemed to be quite justifiable.  But your point is well taken that it weakened us as an organization.  I find it very ironic that we had to trade away picks because the organization lacked depth and wasn’t developing good prospects.  Talk about a vicious circle.

    For years now we have been complaining about the lack of quality players at centre and on defense (in terms of size and grit).  Leblanc, Eller and Nattinen were solid additions down the middle.  Tinordi was a great addition considering we were picking in the bottom third of the draft.  No one wants to give up a 2nd rounder to move up a few spots but that was the going price paid by other teams on draft day (we did get a 4th coming the other way). However, that sacrifice is much better than spending it on a stop gap, short term measure that only helps the team for part of a season.  As you stated, Tinordi is the type of pick that we can all sit back and feel good about.  Without moving up, we probably would have taken a player such as Brock Nelson.  Not the end of the world in any way, but not quite what we need in terms of stocking the system.

    Most of us on H I/O are quick to criticize when something goes wrong so I think it’s only fair to give credit to G&G when they do something right.

  171. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Was it me or did that Connolly kid look a little over confident, chewing his gum and that lazy walk? I thought I saw Stevie Y tell him to spitt out the gum when it was time for his interview with Dutchie.

    What was with E from Entourage with the Islanders brass? Is he a part owner or something?

    And enough already with Dreger and his Kaberle reports, who really cares?

  172. Bill J says:

    That is the same opinion the above poster holds terry.

    The silly opinion that ONE player made this happen.


  173. HFX-HabFan says:


  174. nightmare_49 says:

    THF – Great post.





    … in the entry draft in 2003 if we had ……….. SK24.

  175. Clay4bc says:

    So you are allowed your opinion, but not him…because it is at odds with what you think? Learn to respect others, even if you don’t agree. Your rudeness brings your immaturity to the forefront for all to see.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  176. mike g says:

    Connolly does look like a little arrogant kid, but some teams will go for that. They consider it an adge over some other players.

    Someone with his skill and scoring touch, an attitude like that is sometimes good. Jason Arnott comes to mind. Big, strong guy who was a good goalscorer, and in his late 30’s still is now….

    And yeah, Dregger should really move away from that Leafs table. I just loved how even though the Leafs had 0% influence on last night’s 1st round, and didn’t even have a pick, TSN still managed to shove them down our throats more than any other Canadian team….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  177. G-Man says:

    Cool down the caps. It’s still a stupid trade for many, who are Habs fans, by the way. We’ll see where the “I told you so” side is by March. Saying he crapped the bed against Philly is your judgment of a team that ran out of gas because of a lack of secondary scoring. We’ll see how Price does this season and laugh and cry about it, too.

  178. ed lopaz says:

    he will need to learn how to fight – because American hockey has girly fighting, where the guys keep their helmets and cages on. when you’re that big, if you want to play mean in the NHL, you have to back it up with – or you end up like Mike Komis – who is not much of a tough guy any more since Lucic introduced him to his left hand.

  179. ABHabsfan says:

    The Isles do have some great young talent, we can look forward to trying to get one or two in the dispersal draft in a few years when the Isles can no longer survive!

  180. Bill J says:

    OMFG.  Saint Jaro ?

    Your just a hater aren’t you – you would rather Price fail so you can say “I told you so”

    If you can’t wait & see how it plays out, without spewing your venom.  IMO you are just as pathetic as ANY fan who booed Price even when he was standing on his head this past season (IE when Price gets the 2nd star but gets booed).

    You are most certainly entitled to your opinion, problem is.  Your opinion is not shared by the people who MATTER in Hockey/within the Habs organization.


  181. likehoy says:

    i’ll tell you in 3 years. especially with no second rounder, we’re going to be missing out on a lot.

  182. Bill J says:

    And who anointed YOU the ethics police of Habs I/O ?

    Seriously if people do not share your opinion you are awful quick to “give people” directions on how they should speak.

    Your no better, so get off your soap box.  And perhaps speak about the Habs a bit ? (the ones who are actual members as of TODAY)

  183. Clay4bc says:

    Thanks for the advice, bill…however, I will decline to accept it, and continue to talk about what I wish.

    And I wish to talk about the foolish trade that saw a great goalie leave the organization, and an inferior goalie stay here.

    I guess the ball is in your court now.

    And FYI, it’s YOU’RE


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  184. Bill J says:

    While I can respect some people think it’s a stupid trade. I counter a few thoughts…

    1) Who are they to assume they know better then the people who are directly involved in the teams day-to-day operations ?

    2) Jaro DID crap the bed, just as much as the 20 year old (which is often used against Price) did against Philly, difference of course being Price was 20, Jaro was 25.

    3) What was missing when Price “crapped” the bed against Philly 2 years ago ?  Physical play. // What was missing when Jaro “crapped” the bed against Philly this year ?  Yup you got it, Physical play.


    There is a LOT of respect due to Jaro for his play.  That does not equate into, the Habs made the wrong decision in trading him.  Sorry, I still maintain I will leave the “thinking” to the people who build a ECF team, and they chose to keep Price, despite seeing just as we all did how well Jaro played.

  185. ProHabs says:

    Petrovic is a D man I think. It would have been good to get him and a big center also (like Pitlick or MacFarland). That is why I would have liked to trade the 27th pick for 2 early second rounders (maybe with the Panthers). But I am happy with Tinordi.

  186. Bill J says:

    Your rudeness brings your immaturity to the forefront for all to see.

    Your words BTW – frankly speaking you’re full of yourself.

    Decline to accept it ? lmfao I never thought you would actually suddenly change your stance because of what I said.  I chose to point out how immature YOU are acting.

    Again…. You’re (glad to see the spell-check police was on high alert) no better.

  187. crabvader says:

    I’m very intrigued by the 111 PIM.

  188. Chuck says:
    Brendan Gallagher
    Right Wing
    Born Jun 5 1992 -- Delta, BC
    Height 5.08 -- Weight 163 -- Shoots R

    --- Regular Season ------- Playoffs ----
    Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
    2008-09 Vancouver Giants WHL 52 10 21 31 61 16 1 2 3 10
    2009-10 Vancouver Giants WHL 72 41 40 81 111 16 11 10 21 14


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  189. McManager says:

    I’m pretty excited by this pick. Probably the team’s biggest steal in a while.

  190. camel_larry says:

    And Weber especially, the dude just never shoots the puck.


    Go Habs Go!

  191. Bill J says:


    Loving the humor here tonight.


  192. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Forget prospects, too bad the Habs don’t have any sort of an offensive d-man. I wish Markov contributed a bit more offensively.

  193. NightRyder says:

    Tinordi and Subban will be a nice pairing five years from now and Gomez will be off the books by then.

    Let’s start planning the parade.

  194. crabvader says:

    Mark McMillan is being picked up rather early.

    With the kind of offensive numbers he’s put up and if he develops and puts on the proper weight, he could’ve been a higher pick in next year’s draft.

  195. TomNickle says:

    Sather trades Bobby Sanguinetti.

    Thank you Geoff Molson for not having Sather or Darryl Sutter as our GM.

    Highly appreciated.

  196. crabvader says:

    Headline makes me want to throw up.

    I’m so sick of this ridiculous crap. Why can’t they just talk about the Habs’ draftees in the headline? Come on.

  197. Bryan says:

    Kevin Paul Dupont of Boston Globe reported
    Montreal to be 1 of list of teams Savard will waive NMC for. Savard a
    Hab? Imagine that!



    The Habs are making me Bi-Polar.

  198. homerbowen says:

    Sorry, too much $$$$$ and injury prone and geez don’t we have enough of those right now. How about Lucic?

  199. crabvader says:


    What is this? Adds Inside/Out?

  200. Bryan says:

    Actually he’s only about a $4 million cap hit… although he’s getting older.  Plus it’s never a good bet to go after a player right after they got a concussion.

    But I agree, no spot for him on the team.


    The Habs are making me Bi-Polar.

  201. crabvader says:

    Everyone is injury prone when you get hit in the f’n head by an elbow.

    Come on…

    Savard is a top-tier player in the NHL in ANY team.

    We won’t get him though because we’d have to trade to Boston AND we are front-loaded.

  202. crabvader says:

    they should change the site URL to

  203. Bill J says:

    Also according to “” among the list of teams approved to be traded to by Marc Savard ? — The Habs.

    Edit I missed Bryan mentioning it prior to me…

  204. crabvader says:

    What would we have that Boston would want that we would also be willing to give up though?

    I don’t like rivalry trades.

  205. Anonymous says:

    4million is not too much money for Savard.

  206. Puck Bard says:

    Ha-ha!  Having my “Puck Bard” t-shirts customed now. Care to buy a dozen?

  207. smiler2729 says:

    No thanks, not only is he an a-hole, he’s a mush-head now who gets lots of money we don’t have. Then again, league-wide hated players are always cool when they’re on your team (liked Tucker here, hated him in Toronto) and wouldn’t Savard have a hate-on for Boston.

    All in all, no thanks ($$$$).

  208. Bill J says:

    Yeah – agree on rivalry trades, would be a first in a LONG time for PG.  He usually goes as far as the other conference when making trades.

    Thus why I really am hoping the un-named player sent to Chicago is Kadri, so the Habs can send the Tits to Chicago for Kadri.

  209. crabvader says:

    Sure, on one condition.

    Spam your site so that I know EXACTLY where to click to find your T’s.

  210. SmartDog says:

    How many teams on that list?

    If it’s a short list and the Boons want to dump him that’s a good position to be in.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  211. crabvader says:

    Chicago’s apparently said they don’t want Sergei.

    Who can blame em? Kane is already excellent without him.

    Sam Gagner, however, isn’t.

  212. TomNickle says:

    We have two guys who can score 40 goals on our roster and we’re a market and fan base that cares about hockey and demands the best out of our players.

    Players who embrace challenge and want to succeed will be lining up to come to this team over the next 10 years.

  213. SmartDog says:

    Dontcha just love that the lead item on TSN all day long has been the 43rd pick in the draft?

    I mean, obvioulsy 43 is an important number.  More important than any other story that could be up there.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  214. crabvader says:

    It’s just about as pathetic as the story on RDS’ headliner.

  215. ed lopaz says:

    we could have had.

    150. Atlanta Thrashers – Yasin Cisse (RW, Des Moines (USHL))

    I just don’t get it.

    If we’re picking late, why not try and pick a 6’3 210 lbs power forward from Montreal??

    The guy is a legit prospect.


  216. habsfansince91 says:

    i think the rds headline is much worse than tsn’s.

  217. Bill J says:

    True.  Imagine the influence SK74 would have on a guy who beats up a Taxi cab driver over 50 cents.

  218. SmartDog says:

    I dunno.  I get the politics slant and all that but I actually think that is an important headline.  It’s quite something… Quebec may not be producing the players it was. 

    Though you’d THINK it would be a secondary story and the Habs picks would come first.  What they should have done is just picked a Quebec player in the first round – then everythign would be okay.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop.

  219. crabvader says:

    Most of the time, the bigger, later round guys normally have very little upside when it comes to their skating and they turn out to be pylons.

  220. Bill J says:

    Nah – RDS headline is dumber.

    At least with TSN – they do not hide the fact they are biased towards the Leafs.

    With RDS, you expect THEM to be biased to the Habs.

    But nope, the bias they have is QC born players.

  221. crabvader says:

    The problem with RDS is that they believe drafting should be language before talent. It’s sad.

    They can have that piece as a side-story but why make it overshadow our own team’s draft?


  222. crabvader says:


  223. Anonymous says:

    Any fan of MTL should know the importance of #43.

  224. naweed235 says:

    so the way it looks like right now we are losing SK to the KHL for absolutly nothing… bummer …

    i really wish we could have have a puck or two for him

  225. Bill J says:

    LMFAO – Toucher! ;)

  226. crabvader says:

    Good riddance. He ain’t worth the rubber.

  227. matmacat says:

    The issue is that quebec hockey is producing less and less talent. That’s a big deal. It means they’re doing something wrong.

  228. ed lopaz says:

    Bill, like or not, the Habs are the only team based in quebec.

    The ticket holders, sponsors, RDS, all of the revenue, is Quebec based.

    You guys living outside Quebec are not adding much revenue to the Habs as a business.

    The people that put money in the Habs pockets would like to cheer for some quebec born players.

    I’m not francophone, I live in Montreal, and I totally agree with this.



  229. crabvader says:

    At the expense of making the game longer, they really need to stop the time when some wussbag fakes an injury in soccer. It’s crazy that you can win a game by faking an injury and wasting time on the clock.

    What a crap sport.

  230. HabFanSince72 says:

    How is that “bias”?

  231. TomNickle says:

    The pick we got in that round was good, will it be better than Cisse?  Time will tell.

    A player of Gallagher’s size putting up the numbers he did in the WHL which is a league consumed by big, nasty players, is a credit to him.

    He’s a tough player from what I’ve read about him.

    A project for sure but still good value for where he was taken.

    PS….I love how the Leafs need scoring and continue to ignore skill in favour of sandpaper.

    At least we can acknowledge that our team recognizes the need for both, can Burke say the same?

    Even if he does build a winning team in Toronto it isn’t going to last long with his draft record thus far.

    If they do become a good team under him they will only have a tiny window of opportunity to win due to the expensive contracts he’s taken on and the age of those players.  By the time he’s added a supporting cast to the skill he does have they’ll be approaching their early-mid thirties.

  232. Bill J says:

    I guess.

    By that logic though, you would think TSN would be talking about how great the OHL is, and NOT the 43rd pick of the Loafs…


  233. HabFanSince72 says:

    Not only money. The Habs are an essential part of Quebec culture. The only sports team that comes close to having such a relationship with a cultural group is Barcelona in football.

    Besides, the headline isn’t about the Habs, it’s about Quebec hockey. I think a sports network based in Quebec is allowed to talk about Quebec hockey.

  234. crabvader says:

    Quebec lost their team to this type of political garbage.

    I don’t agree with this.

    You draft the best available players. Besides, we’re not even talking about the Habs not drafting French players, we’re talking about Quebecers not being drafted early in general.

    This is not main page material for a story. I would think, given the fact that Montreal is Quebec’s only team, as you put it, that our players we just drafted would be the top story.

  235. HabFanSince72 says:

    My guess is if there were no picks from Alberta, the Calgary newpaper might mention it.

  236. PeterStone says:

    one guy I would like to see the Habs try to acquire, and I am sure it wouldnt cost much, is Shane O’Brien.  A little toughness on the back end cant hurt, and I am willing to bet a mid round pick would get that done.  Add to that he’s RFA, so he isnt a huge cap hit. The only issue with that is we would have plenty of DMen .. so, I am not sure who would be the odd guy out. 

  237. SlovakHab says:

    With the 207th pick, I wish we drafted Peter Slimak from my hometown team, HC Kosice (Slovak champions). Has a great size (6’5, 200 lbs), plays a decent D at the pro level and is willing to drop the gloves.

    B.Burke is building the Bruins through the draft.

  238. Bill J says:

    Look at the two headline pages.

    Since the 43rd pick, TSN has had the leafs pick as the headline news.

    Habs have picked a few players now, but RDS is headlining the QC players drafted by OTHER teams.

    Thus the bias…

    If TSN is to Toronto Maple Leafs, you would think the network that broadcasts every single Habs game would = RDS is to the Habs no ?


  239. SlovakHab says:

    John Westin it is!

  240. Psycho29 says:

    I don’t like soccer but don’t they add injury time to the end of the game?

  241. HabFanSince72 says:

    RDS is a Quebec TV station. It isn’t bias to report sports news of relevance to Quebec.


  242. Bill J says:

    So we start & end the draft with Twin towers on D.

    Didn’t the Habs draft another guy late last year with almost the same name Peteri Simila or something like that ?

    First thing I thought of when I saw this guy’s name.

  243. crabvader says:

    I get that, but it shouldn’t eclipse what Quebec’s only professional hockey team is doing; drafting our future talent.

  244. Psycho29 says:

    I heard Martin McGuire on CKAC before and someone ‘close to the Bruins’ said that Marc Savard has shown a bad team attitude over the past few months. (Whatever that means)…


  245. SlovakHab says:

    Hahah. Yes, it is a Finnish goalie. Petteri “Not the Same but” Simila.


    B.Burke is building the Bruins through the draft.

  246. Bill J says:

    As I said below, I guess so…. And I also can see that the QMJHL failing to get any QC born players into the first two rounds is somewhat important news.

    Seems to me, the NHL team in QC is bigger news…  But then again that is MY bias after all lol

    So there ya go ;)

  247. crabvader says:

    Slovak is just talking about the guy he wished we would’ve drafted in the 7th round.

    We drafted John Westin from Modo in the SEL.

  248. Bryan says:

    I remember reading back in Atlanta he was known as a terrible team guy and wasn’t well liked in the locker room.


    The Habs are making me Bi-Polar.

  249. SlovakHab says:

    It is not a crap sport by any means. The most popular sport on this planet by far.

    However, unless they don’t implement a video referee in some capacity, the players will always dive and pretend to be hurt after the slightest contact. That is what really bugs me.

  250. crabvader says:

    It means he’s seen the light and doesn’t want to be a Bruin. :P

  251. ed lopaz says:

    Time will tell. Before Cisse was injured he was burning up the USHL scoring almost a goal a game.

    The guy is a beast; big, strong, fast, nasty, the whole package.

    I agree with the point that the Leafs are in trouble.

    But they will deal Kaberle, and they’ll get back something decent.

    It would seem to me that they would want Savard to play with Kessel.

    That’s got to be on the table, good for both teams.

    I’ll say one positive thing, however.

    I give Burke credit for putting himself in front of the national audience last night.

    That took some guts.


  252. JIMVINNY says:

    Real men don’t bite. 

  253. SlovakHab says:

    That’s right! It was just a wish on my part.


    B.Burke is building the Bruins through the draft.

  254. Bill J says:

    oh – DUH – I completely missed the “wish” part lmfao…

    Doh – my bad….

  255. Harani says:


    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  256. NightRyder says:

    Gallagher was outstanding in the playoffs and he’s feisty. At first I thought the MacMillan pick was his older brother, who is a power-play maestro, but that’s the older one. Young one is a little more well-rounded though doesn’t appear to have the high-end skill.

    Wouldn’t get too excited about either player, third-liners down the road perhaps. Gallagher’s heart along makes him a decent pick.

  257. habsfansince91 says:

    habs draft john westin with their last pick

  258. crabvader says:

    John Westin 7th round pick.

    Modo SEL player.

    Despite the name, he is Swedish.

  259. TomNickle says:

    The Habs do have money invested in francophone players Ed.

    It might not be as many as some fans would like but they are there nonetheless.

    Danny Biega would’ve been a great addition, it didn’t happen because the team saw a player that they really wanted yesterday and pulled the trigger.  

    They made a sacrifice to select a guy who by most accounts will have an impact on our roster for a long time and gave up the opportunity to select a player who is essentially a crap shoot to make it.

  260. BJ says:

    Soccer is a joke. A girl’s diving team is tougher. Stretchers going on and off, players rolling on the ground. Thank C….. for hockey. Just watching the USA-Ghana game.

  261. Puck Bard says:

    Calling Cisse a power forward is a stretch. Westmount boy in Habs garb is a recipe to mess up the kid’s head. Glad we passed. 

  262. NightRyder says:

    He’s a wingnut who takes way too many chances for his mediocre skill set and barely fights.


  263. RC-51 says:


    A feature on the Macmillan brothers

  264. crabvader says:

    Wouldn’t it be sweet if Alex Avtsin came down here to play with the Juniors and Leblanc decided to do that also?

    Avtsin and Leblanc would get a leg up on teamwork chemistry come training camps.

  265. Puck Bard says:

    I as well would like you to piss somewhere else.

  266. Bill J says:

    100% agreed!

    Montreal Juniors attendance would likely go through the roof too.

  267. TomNickle says:

    Avtsin doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence in me these days.

    He talked a big game after the draft last year and followed it up with a horrible season offensively.


  268. kempie says:

    McDonalds is very popular also.

  269. 24 Cups says:

    Sanguinetti goes to Carolina as does Riley Nash.

  270. TomNickle says:

    Sather and Sutter have been going on tandem bike rides.

    They have both lost their minds.

  271. TomNickle says:

    Sanguinetti is as highly thought of as Del Zotto in many circles.

    Stupid trade.  Even more ridiculous than normal considering Sather’s drafting record.

  272. Bill J says:

    If memory serves Tom, Alex had a rather bad wrist injury this season.

    Agreed that does not inspire much confidence, however I still remember the comparisons made to Ovechkin, so before the Habs quit on this one, I hope he makes it to North America first.

  273. Storm Man says:

    Bye Bye USA…………

  274. ed lopaz says:

    I know the Biegas – I did not recommend that pick because I’m not convinced the NHL is their priority.

    Why did Philly take Michael Chaput, and not us?

    Chaput played here locally, he’s a talented kid, and his “ceiling” is very high.

    He is a legit prospect.

    The Habs have to know about these kids – they have scouts. (2 working the whole province!!!!).

    It is very likely, in my opinion that at least 2 or 3 quebec born players this year will be impact NHL players.

    Its just not the Habs priority, and that’s the story being told in the French media.

    And about the Q not producing good players, in my opinion, its because there is no HITTING in Quebec until Bantam double letters.

    By the time kids reach grade 8, many of the best athletes, especially the bigger guys have moved to football or basketball or soccer.

    its the little guys who thrive in Atom and Pee Wee, and with no hitting, they end up dominating all the way through to the Q.

    Bring in hitting at 12 years old (Pee Wee AA )and the Q will become a better league 5 years down the road.

  275. crabvader says:

    Yeah but what line was he on? 3rd? 4th?

  276. smiler2729 says:

    LOL Touche! Soccer sucks.

  277. TomNickle says:

    I’m realistic about it.  He had under 10 points in 30 games with limited icetime on a good KHL team.

    But.  He talked a big game about how he thought he could earn an NHL roster spot quickly.

    If he can’t crack 15 minutes per night over there he isn’t going to make an NHL roster over here.

  278. ed lopaz says:

    have you seen him play?

  279. Bill J says:

    Is his Head Coach’s name “Jacob Martinov” or something ?

    Sounds like the young player was “dog-housed” in the KHL lol

  280. TomNickle says:

    Sorry, double post, new mouse hasn’t arrived yet.

  281. SlovakHab says:

    All right, so by that logic, the more the sport is popular, the more it sucks?

  282. TomNickle says:

    I don’t think players from Quebec are bad hockey players at all and I don’t think there’s some sort of lack of talent there either.

    It’s no secret where the best goalies in the World come from.

    The bodychecking factor is apparent and a major reason why players coming out of the Q need more than a year to adjust at the pro level.

    There should be a concern with the level of high end defensemen coming out of the league though.

    It’s much easier to learn the physical ins and outs of the game as a forward than it is as a defenseman, and it certainly has more of an impact on the defenseman’s game than it does the forward’s game.



  283. andrewberkshire says:

    Tom, unless you’re Ovechkin young players just don’t get ice time in the KHL. It doesn’t matter how good they are. From what I’ve heard Avtsin was outplaying nearly everyone on his team on a nightly basis until he got injured.

  284. ed lopaz says:

    the best players from montreal are going south.

    Leblanc was 1. Cisse another.

    Now you can add another name to the list, a 1994 who will be eligible for the 2012 draft,

    Michael Matheson.

    Write down the name. He’ll be top 2 rounds in 2012.

  285. HabsTrueBlue says:

    LOL of course soccer is not a tough physical sport but soccer players are much more athletic and far better conditioned than hockey players. Most of those big tough NHLers do not have the athleticism to nail a high jumping bicycle kick or the conditioning to play for 90 minutes.

  286. ed lopaz says:

    we will see the Nordiques again before 2015.

  287. homerbowen says:

    How long does it take for paint to dry?

  288. HFX-HabFan says:

    Habs 2015

    Cammalleri-Plekanec-Kristo, Pacioretty-Leblanc-Gionta(C), Pouliot-Engvist-Palushaj, Pyatt-Lapierre-White

    Tinordi-Subban, Markov(A)-O’Byrne, Gorges(A)-Nash

    Price, Desjardins

    I like it.

  289. c.robillard says:

    No Eller on this roster?

  290. TomNickle says:

    Josh Gorges was at the draft table with The Brass last night.  I’d say he’ll be the captain this season.

  291. Anonymous says:

    Got a little Gionta in ya?

  292. ed lopaz says:

    here is an interesting sleeper pick for the habs to take a look at today.

    I hope they do.

    Yassin Cisse

    I’ve seen this guy play with Louis leblanc a few years back in Midget AAA.

    He’s a Montreal kid.

    he’s 6’3 – 210 lbs power forward.

    He was injured much of last season so he dropped off the radar.


  293. SeriousFan09 says:

    Habs sent you a job app for scouting Quebec yet Ed? Seems like you’re on the ball more than the last guy.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  294. TomNickle says:

    Nice grab Ed.  I heard from a great hockey guy that he’s a project but has his head on straight and could make it with the right coaching.

  295. likehoy says:

    which round is he projected to end up?

  296. HFX-HabFan says:

    Dangit!  Knew I was forgetting someone that we had picked up recently.  Plug him into the second line for sure, MaxPac can drop to third line duty and replace Pouliot who may have unfortunately worn out his welcome here by 2015.  Schultz could see fourth line duty by then too.

    I’ll revise it:

    Cammy-Pleks-Kristo, Eller-Leblanc-Gio, MaxPac-Engvist-Palushaj, Pyatt-Laps-White/Schultz

    Markov-O’Byrne, Tinordi-Subban, Gorges-Nash

    Price, Desjardins

  297. homerbowen says:

    About time we stayed away from smurfs

  298. Anonymous says:

    Before you folks jump off and say we only draft small players, Tinordi is the tallest prospect in this years draft…

  299. TomNickle says:

    That and Gallagher might be the first player in the last two years we’ve drafted that’s under 6 feet tall.


  300. Puck Bard says:

    I don’t think people making the observation that he is small is the same as jumping off because he’s small.

  301. vic says:

    Thinking about the Kbros and Price and how they were handled.Given a pile of money and planted in a apartment in Mtl  in there 20ts .Man I know what would have happened to me.I would still be in recovery

    Also the press all over them as connections to crime lords.and coaches who dont know how to handle young players.

    Great start for them and now we have Pouliot who showed great potential and the the coach put him on the forth line in practice and of cource never gave the player a reason.Also whos in going to teach the new player

    bench him like OBurn when he makes a mistake

  302. 24 Cups says:


    Vancouver’s D is pretty well set for next year as they make another serious run at the Cup.  Looks like it’s the end of the road for Willie Mitchell in Vancouver.  If we waive Hamrlik, we could probably grab Mitchell (UFA) for a reasonable two year deal and still have some money in the bank.  However, I don’t see enough of Vancouver to know how much gas Mitchell has left in the tank.

  303. ProHabs says:

    Am I the only that was hoping for the Habs to pick a 5’6 speedy Russian in the first round yesterday.

  304. Big Bird says:

    A couple of cents from the peanut gallery:

    (1) I like this 1st round pick although I’m cautious.  Remember Brent Bilodeau and Brad Brown?  Both big tough defensemen who didn’t pan out.  Much less did Fisher and McDonough (albeit traded).  Although we also had Komisarek and Subban.  Let’s see.

    (2) I agree Hamrlik has a heavy contract but we forget that he put in above average time when Markov went down.  He’s not a #1 or #2 defenseman.  I see him as a #3 playing with a young #4 (like O’Byrne).  People forget that Phaneuf’s best years in Calgary were with Hamrlik.  

    (3) I’m still pissed off the Habs did not sign Larry Robinson as an assistant coach for the defense.  We’ve never recovered from a defensive perspective since Jacques Lapperriere was fired with Jacques Demers.  And I’m sorry but Perry Pearn is not in the same league as Larry Robinson.

    (4) The biggest question mark is going to be how Carey Price handles the pressure of being the #1 goalie in Montreal.  It’s a hell of a gamble.  He has the talent for sure but his mental capabilities are the issue.

    (5) I hope that for whichever young players come to Montreal next year (i.e. Subban) they are not just left to their own devices.  We failed miserably with Latendresse, Price, Higgins, Kostitsyn brothers.  Our drafting isn’t the issue so much as our professional player development.  You don’t let a 18-20 year old millionaire loose in Montreal.  Not if you want to protect your assets and grow them.

  305. Big Bird says:

    The concussion is the only question mark regarding Willie Mitchell.  Candidily, I don’t think Hamrlik had a great season but I wouldn’t throw in the towel on him yet.  Especially with Markov out for the first 2 months again.

  306. TomNickle says:

    I’ve got some questions.

    Does Josh Gorges being at the draft table last night give us a heads up that he’s the new Captain?

    Does Alexei Yemelin get traded today or shortly thereafter because of the Tinordi pick?

    Does Pierre Gauthier find a way to get into the 2nd and or 3rd rounds?  If so, what gets him there?



    I think Gorges is the next captain.  I think that Yemelin will be traded because of a strong hunch that Tinordi will play in London and not college and I think Gauthier uses Yemelin, Trotter, Desharnais and or Sergei to get draft picks today.

  307. habsfansince91 says:

    agree with you on #1. When markov went down we all forget that Hamrlik and Spacek played heavy minutes for us and played really well. That might’ve played a factor as to why they seemed to slow down as the year progressed.

  308. Bill J says:

    While I am not sure on the Yemelin part of what you are saying.

    I certainly can see something happening today.

  309. SeriousFan09 says:

    - Gorges was apparently in town because he was invited by a friend who’s son may be getting drafted in the later rounds is what one report had it as. I think Gionta will end up wearing the C myself.

    - Yemelin’s rights can be traded, but at the same time, no guarantee for whoever gets those rights he never plays on an NHL team. I think Tinordi will go the NCAA route, the Notre Dame team has one of the best coachs in the entire NCAA league and Canadiens like having 4 years of retaining a prospect’s rights instead of two.

    - I think so, the 2nd and 3rd rounds of a deep draft are a good place to make moves, wouldn’t be surprised to see a name or two get shuffled off the prospect list this afternoon.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  310. TomNickle says:

    Tinordi is likely to go to London.  With that coaching he would be ready for NHL action in 2012-2013 at the latest.

    Yemelin is basically a smaller version of Tinordi.  I think it makes Yemelin expendable.  


  311. smiler2729 says:

    Looking at Ottawa trading away their pick to St. Louis for the Blues 1st rounder last year. And Halak being dealt for the Blues 1st rounder of ’07.

    Kinda cool dealing away the waiting period required for picks to mature for prospects that are seen as more NHL ready.

  312. TomNickle says:

    You think the Tinordi family will pass up the London Knights and Dale Hunter?

  313. crabvader says:

    That would be a huge mistake.

  314. crabvader says:

    What time does the draft continue today?

  315. TomNickle says:

    I think so too but there is life after hockey and I don’t envy anybody that has to make that decision.


  316. ZepFan2 says:

    I think it continues at 2.

    Edit: as per Bob McKenzie: 10 am PT.



    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  317. habsfansince91 says:

    i may be wrong but i think it starts at 1pm

  318. Mark C says:

    While, I hate seeing a second round pick traded in a draft like this one; that was the going rate, and the price to be paid. There are a lot of subtle reasons to like this pick. Tinordi fits a player profile sorely lacking on Montreal’s current roster or in the system. 

    The scouting reports paint Tinordi as the perfect yin-yang, or Fat Man and Little Boy defensive partner for many of Montreal’s prospects.  Much like the highly successful parings of Markov-Komisarek, Tinordi (LH) can be pared with the smaller, more offensive minded prospects, such as Yannick Weber (RH), Mathieu Carle (RH), Mac Bennett (LH) in the future.        

  319. HabFanSince72 says:

    The latest H I/O conspiracy theory is fascinating: Tinordi  only chosen because his dad once played for Bob Gainey’s team. This is beyond weird.

    Tinordi was  ranked 18th by TSN, so picking him when we did is hardly a sign of nepotism.



  320. crabvader says:

    Thanks guys.

  321. rogieshan says:

    What’s the latest word on Pouiliot?

  322. SeriousFan09 says:

    Know soon enough, but someone (forget who, apologies!) posted a very good take on here yesterday about the hockey program and the coach in charge of the Notre Dame team, his previous work at Lake Superior State raised that team from Division-3 to Division-1 NCAA hockey. Seems like other choice would be solid really.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  323. TomNickle says:

    I’m sure Gainey knowing the family had something to do with it but that’s not a bad thing.

    If they would’ve avoided him knowing his family, I would be worried.

  324. TomNickle says:

    I’m sure Gainey knowing the family had something to do with it but that’s not a bad thing.

    If they would’ve avoided him knowing his family, I would be worried.

  325. crabvader says:

    No word.

  326. mike g says:

    While I think Georges will be the next captain, let’s not read too much into the fact that he was at the table….

    Mike Komisarek was behind our bench 2 years ago when he was injured, only to be a member of the Leafs squad about 6 months later…

    Yemelin may get moved, but I think drafting Tinordi was more of a long-term pick. He will go to Notre-Dame, he said it and it’s the best thing for him. An 18 year old who’s 6 foot 6 needs to adapt to a large frame, and be able to be the best 6 foot 6 player he possibly can be at age 22. He’s gotta gain about 15 pounds, and learn how to play with the weight and guys stronger than him.

    Last night after listening to about 10 minutes of coverage on the kid, I realized this pick was essentially used on Tinordi to replace Gill once he’s out of MTL. Gill’s got 1 year left on his deal if I’m not mistaken, and if he has a good year again I see the Habs signing him to another 2 year extension. That would hopefully mean he could still be here for his last contract year at the same time Tinordi cracks our lineup. Gill could help develop and show him how to use his size effectively down low in the zone, and hopefully turn him into a solid stay at home d-man with insane size…I think the Habs realized this year how important it is to have a guy on the back end with a huge frame come playoff time.

    That’s how I saw this pick….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  327. SeriousFan09 says:

    HabsWatch on Twitter reports: ‘Habs appear to be working on a two year deal with Pouliot to avoid arbitration but I fail to understand why given his injuries & play

     Should also be noted, Niemi is the only Hawk RFA so far to recieve a qualifying offer, not everyone’s running around after all their RFAs on day one, Andrew Ladd currently sits without a qualifyng offer.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  328. TomNickle says:

    It may be naive of me but I don’t think the kid will go wrong regardless of where he starts.

    I think if the NHL is his goal, London makes it a quicker transition and prepares him for the pro game better.  But if education is a priority, I have no problem with that and can wait.

    He’ll be in the show at one point, and it won’t be any longer than 5 years from now I suspect.

  329. crabvader says:

    Why? Hmmm, Habswatch needs to realize there aren’t many teams willing to trade for our garbage.

    He also needs to realize that beyond Pouliot, who can replace him and be NHL-ready by next year if we let him walk?

    He’s shown flashes of brilliance, he just needs to get his head out of the gutter. It would also help if JM would let him play his game.

    While Pouliot has worked a bit on his defensive game, he is pure offense and you can tell JM had him running backwards because he wasn’t hitting the net as much later on in the season as he was when he first got to Montreal.

  330. mike g says:

    He recieved a pass while he was all alone in the neutral zone, and fell……again.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  331. terrygain says:

    I believe that he said he hoped to be playing for the Habs in 2 years. If so he goes to London.  

  332. SeriousFan09 says:

    Trade him for something? Of course not, but the frustration with Pouliot is understandable.

    Pouliot’s biggest weakness right now is his own conditioning, I don’t think he’s put on more than a dime since draft day and for a big 6’3″ kid, he should certainly be putting on some weight if he wants to hang around the front of the net. Leaves him to be easily injured compared to others, he comes to training camp with solid conditioning from off-season training and he could probably be a much more effective player.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  333. TomNickle says:

    Much more of a mean streak in Tinordi than there was ever touted to be in Gill though.

    Gill sticks up for his teammates, but Tinordi gets very physical for them.

  334. Max_a_million says:

    I like Gauthier’s style.  He knows what he wants and goes after it without delay.

    Moore, Halak trade, Plekanek, Tinordi … 

    I like his assertiveness, hopefully it all turns out for the best.  

  335. TomNickle says:

    He said the realistic goal is 3 years in the TSN interview.

    That’s open to interpretation.

    Could mean a year of college, a year of AHL and then pros.

    Could mean a year of junior, a year of AHL and then pros.

    He has only made a verbal commitment thus far though so we’ll see I guess.

  336. habsfansince91 says:

    he seems to be a tad more aggressive than gainey. Let’s hope that continues today for a second rounder.

  337. mike g says:

    No question about that…

    But my point was that once Gill is gone, I really think the Habs wanted to replace him with someone possessing similar size and defensive zone coverage abilities.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  338. Chuck says:

    This kid seems to have all of the tools needed to be a big, stay-at-home-defenseman, which is why any critique of his skating doesn’t really worry me. Besides, he can work on the skating as he fills out his frame.

    A big guy who can clear the front of the net and make an excellent first pass is fine by me. And if you don’t like it, he’ll punch you in the face.


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  339. nightmare_49 says:

       Edmonton’s GM Tambellini got Taylor Hall but GM Tallon stole the show with three 1st round picks and has four picks in the 2nd. Tambellini fired most of his staff to get younger personel to direct his new young players, what young players.

        He was the most sought after GM when he was assistant/GM in Van. but has done sweet f*** all since taking over Edmonton, except kissing his owners ass. This man has no plan or vision and is scared to make moves and i feel sorry for all those fans that were at the Rexall center yesterday.

  340. nightmare_49 says:

      C – Didn’t you say the same thinng about Bret Bilodeau, lol.

  341. Chuck says:

    Hey, I didn’t pick him!  :)

    Regardless, our pick will definitely turn out better than who the Laffs chose in the 1st round.  :)


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  342. habsfansince91 says:

    why do you even bother posting? Nobody takes you seriously when you speak.

  343. ZepFan2 says:

    ‘”He then traded up to draft a son of a longtime Gainey player!”

    Oh noes, it’s the seventh sign!!


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  344. Ian Cobb says:

    Good one Sulemaan,

  345. Bill J says:

    I guess the fact that the Canucks’s deal with Florida actually hinged on Tinordi being available or not available (IE He would have been drafted ahead of the Habs 27th pick) doesn’t count for anything Tony ?


    If someone hates Habs Management, does that not imply they hate Habs success ? (Conference champions a few years back & ECF this season)

  346. ZepFan2 says:

    Brandon Gormley of the Moncton Wildcats from the QMJHL. Chosen 13th overall by the Phoenix Coyotes.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  347. Bill J says:

    Sometimes you really kinda scare me, let me rephrase for you Tony.  ANOTHER TEAM WAS VERY PREPARED TO DRAFT THIS KID AT #25 (Canucks) so much so, a trade hinged on Tinordi NOT being available @ #25.  Can you not see Tinordi has value all to his own ?

    I seem to remember you somewhat being happy about Tinordi last night, and then you found out Tinordi’s father had a previous history with Gainey, and now your making it sound like Tinordi would have been a 6th rounder at best, and only got preferential treatment by the Habs because of his father’s previous history with Gainey. 


    If someone hates Habs Management, does that not imply they hate Habs success ? (Conference champions a few years back & ECF this season)

  348. Chuck says:

    I don’t see Hamrlik going anywhere until possibly next year’s trading deadline.

    As it is, we have Hamrlik, Spacek, Gill, Georges and O’Byrne healthy and signed. Toss in PK Subban to possibly bring us up to 6 defensemen for the NHL roster… and JM will still find a way to sit O’Byrne.

    Questions: will Mara and Bergeron be healthy/resigned for next season? And Markov starts the season on the injury list, too.

    I don’t think that Hamrlik is moved unless there’s a #2 or #3-capable guy coming back in the deal.


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  349. mike g says:

    Anyone know some websites where I can watch the draft for free?

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  350. Ian Cobb says:

    Continue reading “The Draft Is Not Luck—It Is Pure Skill And Art Form” »

    Jarred Tinordi was not picked out of a hat, it was hard work to get him! (click above)

    One year in London and two years in Hamilton, we will then have a great rookie. Bring him along slowly. Defenseman take more years in the minors to develop. And as Sulemaan said here earlier, all rookie millionaires should not be turned loose in Mtl.

  351. habsfansince91 says:


    it has it listed at 1

  352. Chuck says:

    Give Tony a break. He can get a little cranky if he hasn’t had his Metamucil.


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  353. NightRyder says:

    I remember as a kid being so excited to go see a Seattle Thunderbirds game because I got to see Lindsay Vallis and Turner Stevenson – our future Hab stars.

    In the middle of the third period, after watching quietly to myself all game, I turned to my dad and said “they’re not very good are they?”

    “Nope,” he said, nodding grimly.

    We never spoke of that game again.

  354. NightRyder says:

    Duncan Keith played two full seasons in the minors with the Hawks.

    If he played in Montreal, he would have gotten three minutes a game, made a few mistakes and been stapled to the bench, then alternated between minor minutes with the big club and Hammy Beach for three or for years.

  355. Ian Cobb says:

    You can thank Gretzky for putting Calif. on the hockey map. He did a lot for this league and got screwed by Betman over the Phoenix investment.—–My blog


  356. andrewberkshire says:

    Now that’s a scary nightmare!

  357. Bryan says:

    Is the 2nd round on TV at all other than the NHL network?


    The Habs are making me Bi-Polar.

  358. Mark C says:

    Why do you think that? Both have already played NHL games and yet you’ve completely written off a 21 year old and a 22 year old from ever playing in the NHL again.

  359. NightRyder says:

    When OB was paired with Markov, he played major minutes and did not look out of place.

    When he played sporadically with Bergeron, he looked horrible and out of place.

    Markov’s injury effectively left us short two D-men.

    I still like O’Byrne, but we need to play him and live with his mistakes. No one, I repeat no one, should have to be paired with MAB. That’s cruel and unusual punishment.

  360. Ian Cobb says:

    Hab fans are very excited about our future. But you sound like an oiler fan. Thats OK! Your parade date will be much later thats all!!.

  361. andrewberkshire says:

    Anyone else thinking that if Tinordi needs to improve on skating and puckhandling then the NCAA route is a better option? There are fewer games in the NCAA, but they practice a hell of a lot, and there’s some great coaching at Notre Dame. I really don’t think Tinordi can make a wrong choice here as he’s either going to the NHL player factory London Knights or a great hockey school in Notre Dame, but I think I like the idea of him going to the NCAA.

  362. Bill J says:

    DUDE – REGULAR SEASON CONFERENCE Champs…  But again that means nothing to you.  No measure of success is seen in that.


    If someone hates Habs Management, does that not imply they hate Habs success ? (Conference champions a few years back & ECF this season)

  363. NightRyder says:

    500K fourth-line left winger/PP specialist/Hammy Beach shuttler… sure.

    Anywhere near one of our blue-line pairings… no thanks.

  364. NightRyder says:

    I’d like to see him spend one year in the NCAA, then one year in Major Junior, then one or two in the AHL.

  365. ooder says:

    hoenstly Tony wtf is up with you?

    you have an opinion and that’s fine, HIO would be boring if everybody thought the same way.

    but honestly,listen to yourself.

    you are complaining that the father of the player played for a while under Gainey almost 20 years ago.

    who cares… the entire NHL is connected one way or another.

    seriosuly cut it out… Gianey isn’t this stupid caveman and neither is Gauthier.

    i bet you look for the number 23 everywhere don’t you.


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  366. ZepFan2 says:

    Keep repeating Gainey and your head’s going to pop.

    Or is that just wishful thinking on my part?!


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  367. nightmare_49 says:

     a – Easy

  368. ooder says:

    the thing is, MAB on the fourth line makes our fourth line completly useless


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  369. ooder says:

    hey Andrew, do you know when the rest of the draft is?


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  370. Bryan says:

    Nevermind! is streaming it with a pretty good connection.


    The Habs are making me Bi-Polar.

  371. TomNickle says:

    I don’t think he can make an incorrect decision here but I would rather see him play with Hunter than in the NCAA.

    Ignoring the fact that London is a pro factory, Hunter and Mark Tinordi are buddies and Jarred would stand to get more one on one time with the coaching staff working on his game in that situation.

  372. andrewberkshire says:

    I don’t know if I like the idea of him bouncing around that much.

  373. andrewberkshire says:

    Should be starting any minute now. On the NHL network and streamed on

  374. SeriousFan09 says:

    I like the NCAA route right now, especially when we’re talking Canadiens prospects. Bring them along a bit slower, but the university route could produce a more mature, educated and grounded prospect for the team, CHL kids are becoming too exposed to rock-star treatment and we’ve had issues with that in the past.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  375. Harani says:

    Chicago and Florida own the third of the first round. 5 picks each…Crazy! It’s all Dale Tallon magic. LOL!

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  376. ooder says:

    cool thanks man


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  377. smiler2729 says:

    Tony, um, you are, with all due respect, an IDIOT!

    Nothing you write makes sense and all you do is cut everything up.

    You are the New Timo and look where that got him…

  378. andrewberkshire says:

    I’m not sure he would get more 1-on-1 time. Hunter is a professional, he won’t show favouritism.

  379. SeriousFan09 says:

    Gotta say, still surprised no one’s rolled the dice on Kabanov with all the extra picks some teams have.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  380. Mike Boone says:

    Wrong. Gormley from Moncton

  381. Ian Cobb says:

    More Fan Summit Information

  382. SeriousFan09 says:

    Burke picking a guy described like Steve Ott, so Leafs pick another A-hole, I’m shocked.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  383. TomNickle says:

    I think that speaks to the depth of the draft.

    Sure there aren’t a lot of future superstars but it looks like there are a lot of future NHLers.

    I can’t believe some media types saying this draft isn’t deep.

    When a player of Kabanov’s skill level slips this much.  When Gormley and Fowler slip that much, it’s a deep draft.

  384. Harani says:

    Why is Chicago making favour to Toronto? Because they won the Cup and Toronto holds the longest drought?

    They get the type of guy that Burke loves…UGH!

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  385. SeriousFan09 says:

    CHI saw someone on the TOR prospect chart they liked. Let TOR get the little jerk I say, keep stacking yourself with jerks rather than scoring players. Be a sideshow, we’ll keep rising in the standings.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  386. andrewberkshire says:

    I think when some people have said it’s not a deep draft, they mean it’s not 2003. Even Hall and Seguin aren’t projected to be superstars, they’re just supposed to be good players.

  387. SeriousFan09 says:

    That and a couple teams just made questionable choices in the top 10, McIlrath over Fowler, Gormley? Epic fail by Sather again.

    The draft is certainly deep, hoping PG makes a move up soon.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  388. Bill J says:

    I’m kinda hoping it’s Nazim Kadri (sp?) as he is a Habs fan.

    So then PG can ship the Kostitsyn’s to CHI in return for Kadri, and the Habs didn’t have to trade with the Loafs to pickup a talented Habs fan :)

  389. vaya_ says:

    i’m guessing the prospect is jimmy hayes, whose brother chicago drafted in the first round last night. doesn’t sound like a favor to me, they’re reuniting the brothers in chi-town. burke wants to break the news to jimmy personally.

  390. SeriousFan09 says:

    2003 can make any draft year look bad with few exceptions. I’d say deep draft is a good description but it’s silly to reference 2003 like it’s something you can expect every 7 years.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  391. Le Jadester says:

    Yes ! Another Hab playing for the Knights.  Can’t wait to watch the kid live.  The Hunters should work their magic in developing him as well.

    I must say, I really like our First Rounder this year.

    Habs, OLE !

  392. TomNickle says:

    One thing that shocked me last night was why a couple of teams didn’t trade out of their picks when they knew that teams would be KILLING to get to Gormley and Fowler.

    Why would Minnesota and the Rangers hold onto those picks when the players that they wanted could’ve been there at 14?

    They could’ve gotten a kings ransom for the opportunity to get Gormley or Fowler.

    I was begging for Gauthier to trade up for Gormley.  


  393. 24 Cups says:

    Hey Andrew, I can’t remember, who did we pick in 2003:-)

  394. ZepFan2 says:

    “more knowledgable”

    Really? He didn’t even know that Gormley was from the Q and was selected yesterday by Phoenix.

    Yeah, he’s a wealth of knowledge.


    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  395. andrewberkshire says:


  396. Mr. Biter says:

    Has Halak been signed to a contract by the Blues yet? If not we got 2 prospects for someone who was going to walk anyway. PG’s only mistake was not to sign CP to a long term contracgt before he traded Halak so there would be no way we could lose CP.

  397. MikeL says:

    Kinda like Matt Carle and Yanick Weber?


  398. ooder says:

    i had a dream we resigned MAB long term…

    woke up in a sweat from that one


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  399. 24 Cups says:

    Robert – That’s what I was thinking, too! All I know is that if the Habs draft this kid, Ed is going straight to the head of the class. The headmaster will be impressed beyond words!

  400. GrimJim says:

    First round – 22nd pick…

    4th round – 113th pick


  401. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    The Philadelphia Flyers have dealt the rights to free agent defenseman Dan Hamhuis to the Pittsburgh Penguins in exchange for the Pens’ third-round pick in the 2011 draft.

    - TSN

  402. likehoy says:

    major fail!

  403. JIMVINNY says:

    Someone (holmgren) probably feels like an idiot.  But seriously, WTF is Shero thinking?  It’s obvious Hamhuis wants to go to free agency.  Unless he told Holmgren that he’d consider the penguins, there are a lot of goats in this mess.

  404. Habhopeful says:

    Tweet From Arpon Basu


    #Habs SK74 not Chicago bound RT @MAGodin: Vous rêvez encore que le CH refile Sergei à Chicago. Oubliez ça. Ils ne sont pas intéressés.


    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  405. mike g says:

    Hopefully we can send SK to Chicago today, in exchange for one of their four 2nd round picks…

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  406. ABHabsfan says:

    It could take SK and Hammer to get a 2nd but still do-able

  407. ed lopaz says:

    I hope you’re right – but if I’m a GM, I would not give more than a 5th rounder for SK.

    Dominic Moore was traded for a 2nd rounder – he is bonafide NHL center who is smart, and can fit into any dressing room.


  408. likehoy says:

    i have a feeling we’ll be ragging on this kid for being too slow in 3 years time…let’s hope i’m wrong.

  409. SnowManHabs85 says:

    I’m liking this pick more and more and i’m liking PG more and more too. Great pick!

  410. AH says:

    6′ 6″, 230, “mean,nasty,physical, plays with an edge, did not back down from any physical confrontations”…I’M LOVING THIS PICK!!!!!!!

  411. Mark C says:

    Seems he is going to BU in the fall. As much as I dislike BU and Jack Parker, BU is a fine college program at generation future pros.  Cisse had his ankle cut this year, so he fits right in with the Habs. Good call by Ed. Central Scouting has him ranked 107, he might still be around at 113.  

  412. likehoy says:

    i think hamhuis fancies himself a contract over 3 million per year

    he’s a good top 4 dman, but he’s not a top pairing dman and i bet he wants to be paid like one.

  413. andrewberkshire says:

    Actually I’ve heard he’s asking for Komisarek money, which is fair considering he’s way better than Komisarek. Massively overpriced though. One dimensional defensive defensemen are getting massively overpaid because of Burke signing Komisarek to that stupid contract.

  414. likehoy says:

    hamhuis is far from a one-dimensional defenseman

    he’s a solid puck mover…averages over 25 points per year. he was the top PP player in 2005-06 before shea weber arrived on scene

    last summer at the WHC, hamhuis was playing on canada’s top pp unit as well.

    he’s overall an all-round defenseman that has gone relatively un-noticed throughout the league. I can see why he wants to be paid, but he hasn’t had enough exposure to deserve it…much like keith ballard once upon a time.

  415. HardHabits says:

    A half million per year more than BG offerd him. ;-)

  416. andrewberkshire says:

    Hal Gill has had several 20 point seasons, I wouldn’t call him an offensive dynamo. I’m not knocking Hamhuis, I’m saying his MO is a defensive defenseman with a limited skill set, shot blocking character guy. Bottom line is that to me, guys like him, Komisarek, Volchenkov, Michalek etc aren’t worth the 4+ million they’re getting now. They’re worth maybe 2.5 max.

  417. andrewberkshire says:

    He’s to blame too.

  418. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So is anyone complaining about PG tonight or what?!

    Kidding…Gainey knows hockey…Gauthier knows hockey…the Molsons know hockey…

    This was a great move, we held a bragging rights pool at work for what the Habs would do. I was the only one who said they would move up. I figured it would have been for a big forward. Oh well.

    I am glad with what they did. BIG tough Dman are great to have.


  419. likehoy says:

    but honestly…how many times have a kid been drafted and we mini-orgasm and then 3 years later we’re pretty upset over it?

    i think habsinsideout made me pessimistic over all draft picks that i’m not even excited for draft day anymore.

  420. WarHero says:

    I love this pick folks. I remember “Mean” Mark Tinordi quite well. Very tough to play against, and could kick the crap out of ya if need be. That being said, I think we are for quite the treat with Jarred considering he doesn’t have his fathers only weakness, skating issues.



    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  421. Clay4bc says:

    Did you not read what the last scout wrote? I will put it here for you to read then…

    “Tinordi clearly does not have the agility that his
    fellow defenseman have.  Tinordi is an awkward skater without good
    balance and footwork.  He will need to improve upon his skating
    and puck
    skills when he’s at Notre Dame.”


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  422. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I know what you are saying, but we drafted HIGHER for a player ranked 4 picks up…his father player over 600 games in the NHL. I think he will put his ALL. I would figure in 2.5 years he plays…

  423. likehoy says:

    bob gainey was a hockey hero, but what did his son steve gainey come out to? or steve tambellini’s son jeff?

    okay so stastny and parise ended up having kids who can play…but it doesn’t always run in the family!

    sometimes players are hyped up cause of their bloodlines like the staals and sutters!

    as always, drafting is a crapshoot! i’m just hoping we ended up with the next pronger, but i’ll be happy even if he’s the next hal skillz.

  424. Jbird says:

    Pretty sure that the young Gainey did other things in life – like travelling – instead of focusing solely on hockey.  So that might not  be the best example for your argument.  But I do get what you are saying.  

  425. likehoy says:

    i don’t get what you mean about the young gainey? played for the bulldogs last year! had no idea lol

  426. Mike Boone says:

    Hey, don’t blame us! Habs Inside/Out didn’t even exist when Terry Ryan was drafted.

  427. HardHabits says:

    Will he be a Mark Howe or a Marty Howe?

  428. Jbird says:

    I’m obviously confused a bit – not uncommon –  I was thinking of someone else – although I swear I thought it was gainey’s kid. Kind of like what Daigle did.  Stopped playing all the time for a year or two.

  429. mbplekfan says:

    Nice to have a big player in the system. Looks to have decent skills but still has only a 20% chance of playing in the NHL.

    His inclusion on the US WJC team bodes well for his chances to make the NHL someday. If he does he will look good on our backend looking out for PK.

    Nice to finally stop drafting midget sized players and realize that size matters in todays NHL.

  430. light_n_tasty says:

    I thought our strategy has always been to draft big, American d-men, then trade them for midgets.

  431. deuce6 says:

    “Darren Dreger here..Just updating what is going on at the Leafs’ draft table..Burke picked up spades and is going alone..”

  432. ABHabsfan says:

    LMFAO! Having attanded high school in Ont I caught your joke right away! For those who didn’t; grade 13 back in the day, was for playing euchre.

  433. _Habsoloutly_ says:


  434. NightRyder says:

    Nice job Captain Obvious.

  435. Dintrox says:

    Good pick up! nice size good bloodlines. From the scouting looks like a solid stay at home type D man with a mean streak.

    Anyone know who the laffs drafted in the 1st rd. ?? ;)

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  436. habsgod says:

    nice pick very happy with a big tough d-man!

  437. JIMVINNY says:

    Crap like these G-20 protests piss me off.  The majority of the people that are really interested in protesting have no interest in the violence.  It’s like the idiots that take advantage of a habs series win to riot.

  438. ooder says:

    everytime it’s the same thing.

    why not just do the meeting somehwere secluded where there won’t be any pprotesters


    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  439. A. Berke says:

    JV, I prefer to call them sicko thugs. I think it’s a more appropriate description.

    Ali B.

  440. WarHero says:

    My thoughts and facts about the Habs 1st round pick. – Give the article a read and comment away



    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  441. chcscs says:

    When we get to 11 US players apparently we’ll need to be renamed the Montreal Americans.

  442. Storm Man says:

    Glad to see my tax dollers are working in Toronto LOL.

  443. andrewberkshire says:

    Makes the big wigs feel important to have all them protesters.

  444. WarHero says:

    Let me clarify, he skates better then his father …sheese … chill out man …. lol


    Never judge another man’s decision poor until you actually have proof of it failing!

  445. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    he’s fricken 18 years old dude.  give the kid a few years to develop before you write him off please.

  446. Clay4bc says:

    Who’s writing him off? I am merely pointing out that “warHero” was incorrect in his statement. But I guess I should just shut up and blindly cheer, like a sheep? Would that make you happy? Well, not going to happen.


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  447. Clay4bc says:

    I am unclear which part of my statement gave you the impression that I need to “chill out”. I said nothing bad about the boy, nor did I disrespect you in any way. In fact, I just cut and pasted what an NHL scout had to say – which you should likely have read yourself before posting, as it was in the article above. So no – I will not “chill out”, but thanks for the advice. Perhaps you can take it yourself?


    “Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Denis Diderot

  448. habsfansince91 says:

    draft is going much faster than last night

  449. Chuck says:

    Anyone know how Toronto acquired the 2nd round pick?


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  450. Bill J says:

    Traded a unsigned prospect (unnamed as Burke did not have a chance to tell the un-named player)

    I’m rooting for Kadri (see a bit below for my reasoning) :)

  451. Chuck says:

    Haha… I like your logic!


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  452. SeriousFan09 says:

    Kadri is an untouchable prospect for the Leafs, he’s the only guy on the prospect chart that could be a future star. Loaf nation would be in meltdown if he left, although I hope he’ll remember his alleigances when he’s UFA ;)


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  453. joeybarrie says:

    From below:

    New boss is like the old Boss…

    Thank God…Gainey took us from absolute CRAP and won us 1st in the east and got us to the Conf Finals…

    How quickly we forget how our top scorer was Yannick Perrault….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  454. ManApart says:

    Gainey and Gauthier are one of the jokes of the NHL. The past 6 years will go down as another wasted era in Habs history. They traded the only guy that gave them a little bit of credibility for this seasons flukey playoff run. This team will almost certainly crash and burn as long as Gauthier/Gainey/Martin and that whole crew are in charge, just like they have been the past 15 years.

  455. Bryan says:

    Can someone tell me how we got that 2nd round pack to trade to PHX yesterday? (57th overall).  I thought we traded it for Moore?


    The Habs are making me Bi-Polar.

  456. McManager says:

    It was the 2011 pick.

  457. SeriousFan09 says:

    MTL traded their 2nd-round pick from 2011 for Moore.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  458. Habhopeful says:

    im a little peturbed we dont have a 2nd and 3rd round pick…I wish we could trade up, i just love trades lol if by our 4th round pick, Kabanov is still available, do we take a chance?


    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  459. SeriousFan09 says:

    Considering the dismal lack of NHLers coming out of the 4th round since 2000? Sure, why not.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  460. SeriousFan09 says:

    2nd round over, no moves by the Ghost, still plenty of time to work his way into the 3rd round.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  461. Habhopeful says:

    scratch that lol


    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  462. SeriousFan09 says:

    Kabanov to the Islanders, hmmm, Russian with reported personality problems going with the Islanders, I think I saw this movie before…


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  463. McManager says:

    Don’t tell Carol Alt, she may look to trade in Yashin for the younger model.

  464. TomNickle says:

    Louis Leblanc’s teammate Danny Biega to the Canes.


  465. mike g says:

    I never saw him play…

    But I used to play against his older brother Alex Biega, drafted by Buffalo a few years ago. Solid d-man, and the kid was really tough. Pretty good offensively too…

    He played for the West Island Royals.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  466. habs001 says:

    i dont we can survive 82 games if moen,darche,white,lapps,pyatt,maxpac dont produce..all 6 of them may score only 4-6 goals plus you have pouliot a huge question mark…we better be prepared to win a lot of 2-1 games or o/t

  467. TomNickle says:

    Would Jacques have it any other way?

    The only problem I have with that style is that it takes a lot out of your team physically and more importantly emotionally.


  468. crabvader says:

    Lol, actually I think he’s trying to pull Darren Dreger off of Brian Burke.

  469. mike g says:

    Notice how McKenzie wasn’t part of the panel anymore….

    He was under the table eating some of Taylor Hall’s ice cream cone….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  470. SeriousFan09 says:

    Mckenzie complimenting Nieuwendyk’s GM work in Dallas? That guy signed the most irresponsible contract of the year with Lehtonen and gave every goalie in the NHL a ridiculous bargaining position.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  471. TomNickle says:

    OMG the Penguins drafted a winger.  And in a related note, I need to change my pants.

  472. warriorhockey says:

    how did we get tne 23 pick and the 27 pick in the 4 round??????????

  473. Mr_MacDougall says:

    He is a kiss ass, and Joe probably gives him “tidbitts”

  474. TomNickle says:

    I would question the trade just as much as the signing too.

    Steep price to pay for a goalie who hasn’t shown an ability to stay healthy.

    He’s been unseated in Atlanta by Johan Hedberg and Ondrej Pavelec.

    Not exactly elite competition.

  475. crabvader says:

    We already had a 4th and got the Phoenix 4th in that trade for 22nd overall.

  476. SeriousFan09 says:

    Still has great information on the junior ranks and only 1% as annoying as Mcguire.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  477. TomNickle says:

    We got the Yotes’ 4th rounder yesterday in the deal that got us Tinordi.

  478. TomNickle says:


  479. crabvader says:

    Sooooooooo tired of hearing Taylor Hall talking to this crappy panel. Get back to the draft already.

  480. RJB says:

    I’m from London, and from what I read in local newspapers and hear from friends who work for the Knights the Hunters are VERY good at making sure that big ticket players make their way to London over college, they set them up to be well taken care of. I think the NCAA is the better route for this kid, but I also think that if he does come to London, he will get the ice time and it would be nice to see him play too!!

  481. mike g says:

    Yup, Dregger has a serious hard-on for the Leafs and Burke..

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  482. Chuck says:

    Colorado got him.


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  483. TomNickle says:

    And the Avs grab Silas.

    They just got a future top 4 defenseman in the 4th round.

    Shame we didn’t get him.  Ah well.

  484. TomNickle says:

    Yeah I saw.  That’s our loss.  He’s gonna be a good one.


  485. Harani says:


    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  486. gmd says:

    who did they draft?? lol

  487. andrewberkshire says:

    Go USA. I want the entire African continent out of the World Cup to spite the birthplace of the vuvuzela!

  488. MikeL says:

    I think heading to London would be good for him. Playing in college, he’s going to be under the radar once again. He has already played under the radar in Washington, so I would like to see him play in a half-pressure packed situation like London. Playing hockey in Washington DC, then college hockey, then turning pro – I think it would be too much of a shock. Ease him in with Major Junior. Plus, it’s the best competition.

  489. Storm Man says:

    GO Black Stars.

  490. TomNickle says:

    I’m looking for the Habs to go European here.

    This is a Timmins special.  Grabbing an under the radar European with a good skill set.


  491. McManager says:

    Scheisse! Pittsburgh picked Tom Kühnhackl.

  492. Chuck says:

    Will Toronto take another meathead with their next pick?


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  493. SlovakHab says:

    Andy, not sure you’ll get what you wish. Of all 2nd round games, I am most sure about USA-Ghana outcome (in favor to the Africans). 

    Hate the vuvuzelas as well, but have always followed and supported African football teams, especially the Ivory Coast, Ghana, Cameroon and Nigeria.


    B.Burke is building the Bruins through the draft.

  494. SeriousFan09 says:

    I was hoping we’d have Teemu Pulkkinen but DET got him, guess he’s going to be the next Teemu Selanne or something since he’s a DET late-round pick.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  495. Chuck says:

    Hmmm… Toronto’s name off the board for the next pick…


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  496. McManager says:

    Do we take Guillaume Asselin in this round?

  497. andrewberkshire says:

    We shall see. I’m not that invested in the game, but the USA have been last minute heart breakers in this World Cup. I’m impressed by them.

  498. TomNickle says:

    I had the same guy on my radar once Silas got nabbed.


  499. SlovakHab says:

    I like some of their players – Donovan, Howard, Altidore. They had an easy group with Slovenia and Algeria and were ridiculously lucky against England (if you remember that goal), but still look like a solid team and I am impressed how far they have progressed during the last 20 years. 


    B.Burke is building the Bruins through the draft.

  500. Harani says:

    Anyone else really annoyed by the commentators on CBC? Bias to the max towards the US.

     “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  501. MikeL says:

    Just sounded like we took a defenseman from the Q – heard it in the background on the NHL Network. Not sure though

  502. McIntyre18 says:

    Habs draft forward Mark MacMillan from the BCHL. He’s 6 ft tall, 150 pounds. Committed to North Dakota.

  503. Puck Bard says:

    Who’s Mark MacMillan?

  504. Puck Bard says:

    Who’s Morgan Ellis?

  505. Harani says:

    Habs select defenseman Morgan Ellis (Cap-Breton). (6’1, 192lbs) 

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  506. andrewberkshire says:

    I guess you could say they were lucky against England, but mostly I think England is just a bunch of choke artists. I can’t see them beating Germany.

  507. gmd says:

    Central Scouting had him ranked at 135


  508. Puck Bard says:

    A spud!

  509. SeriousFan09 says:

    6′ F and 24G, 56A in 59GP regular season BCHL this year, with 5G, 9A in 13GP in BCHL playoffs for his rookie season, Univeristy of North Dakota with prospects Danny Kristo, Michael Cichy next year.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  510. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I am from PEI and i’m very proud of the local boy.. hopefully he and Gormley both become great NHLers!

  511. warriorhockey says:

    why has no one drafted anyone for like 3o min !??!?!?!?


  512. SeriousFan09 says:

    4G, 25A, +17 in his second Q season with 56 PIM over 60GP, he improved over only 6A in his initial QMJHL season last year.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  513. Puck Bard says:

    From the Maritimes myself Bye!

  514. habsfansince91 says:

    i think has a problem right now. They’re now in the 5th round.

  515. Chuck says:

    They have… but the updates haven’t been appearing on


    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  516. MikeL says:

    They have, but and haven’t updated – for some reason.

  517. Harani says:

    Clip of Mark MacMillan —nose for the net? And here’s a “Highlight Reel Beauty!”

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  518. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I’ve seen more allowable contact at a PGA event, also at ladies pick up hockey.. soccer is sickening.. wonderful sport, but the players are way too unsportsmanlike.

  519. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Hopefully Ellis doesn’t learn to drink like an easterner!

  520. SeriousFan09 says:

    He just needs to gain 40 pounds or more.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  521. Mr_MacDougall says:

    it is live on NHL network

  522. Puck Bard says:

    Ya, if he eats Laraque we’ll be fine. 

  523. Storm Man says:

    Hope he does not eat like Laraque.

  524. anitaschwarz says:

    good news or bad news….

  525. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Hey, a little off topic, but does anybody thing both Tom Pyatt and Brock Trotter make the Big Club next year?

  526. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pyatt yes and I think White will be added for sandpaper, but I wouldn’t expect Trotter to be a regular next season.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  527. likehoy says:

    let’s hope they excel for the big club.

  528. TomNickle says:

    Yes to Pyatt, highly doubtful that Trotter will.

    You’ve got Pleks, Cammy, Gomez, Gionta, Andrei Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Eller, Pouliot, Moen, Darche, 

    That’s 10 of 13 spots filled up front not counting better players suited for the pro game who could make the jump like White, Pacioretty and Palushaj.


  529. Mr_MacDougall says:

    so what is the deal with Trotter.. his numbers look fantastic for a young guy.. numbers aren’t everything, but his +/- is off the charts

  530. TomNickle says:

    No regrets Michael.  It’s a single man’s game.  If you want to pursue a career in hockey you can kiss a happy family life goodbye for the next 20 years.

    Considering you’re Italian.  That probably wouldn’t sit well with you and your family.

  531. Mr_MacDougall says:

    what league did you play in mike g?

  532. mike g says:

    Played for the Etoiles De L’Est….

    From Atom to Bantam, always AA. 1st year midget, I made the Montreal-Bourassa Midget AAA team, but left after the 1st month for scholastic reasons. Following year, was the best player in camp as a 2nd year veteran having made the team the year before, but the coach cut me last because I chose not to play the year before….

    So I returned to Midget AA again, and then played 3 years of Junior AA.  When I was 16, I was asked to go to 3 prep schools in the States, but refused because it was gonna cost my parents about 24,000$ US. That same summer, I wasn’t drafted in the QMJHL, but asked by 2 teams to attend camp. At that point, I had decided I’d just continue playing hockey for fun and go into sports journalism….

    Now when I look back at those decisions, I regret every single one of them.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  533. SeriousFan09 says:

    I massively regret only getting into really watching hockey over the last 3 years in itself, I wish I’d taken it up when I was younger, as it stands I’ll probably spend all summer just practicing with a tennis ball and a hockey stick on my apartment’s balcony to work on some basic control.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  534. TomNickle says:

    Use a heavy weighted puck instead ;)

    Using a ball too early develops bad handling habits.

  535. mike g says:

    That was one reason…

    But in the end I chose my family and friends over a chance to make it. That was the biggest factor, it’s not like if I would have gone I’d be guaranteed to make it…

    But I still wonder what would/could have happend. Anyways…

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  536. SeriousFan09 says:

    Thx, I’ll look into that but I doubt I’ll do much more than ball hockey, I can’t actually skate, at all.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  537. TomNickle says:

    Friend of mine got drafted in the 3rd round a few years ago and only saw 60 AHL games before getting sent to the ECHL and then quitting to go to school.

    There’s no guarantees.

  538. mike g says:

    Hockey’s such a great game.

    And the rewards it gives you is incredible. The amount of stuff I’ve learned being at the rinks, at tournaments, being captain a few times, etc…it really teaches you responsability how to be a great person.

    It’s not hard to notice why hockey players are so much more down to earth and level-headed people than say NBA or NFL players. You very rarely hear of bad incidents involving NHL’ers.

    And as Tom said, stay away from a tennis ball. You can find various training hockey balls/pucks that are heavier, and will help develop your wrist muscles alot better. If you train properly, you’ll notice the puck won’t feel as heavy on your stick anymore.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  539. mike g says:

    No my workload in school was a little heavy, and it was an important year for me school-wise because the colleges look at your marks very closely…

    So I chose to play Midgett AA because it doesn’t even come close to the amount of traveliing you need to do in AAA.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  540. SeriousFan09 says:

    Thanks for the advice, I’ll look into it.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  541. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I have never seen a dogs game (well since the fredericton Canadiens played in Charlottetown against the PEI Senators) but his numbers are very impressive.. 0.5 goals per game, +33 and slightly over a point per game… Is he as good as his AHL numbers suggest?

  542. SeriousFan09 says:

    Can’t say I saw him blow me away in any game he played when I took a trip to Copps, albeit I was always keeping my eye on Subban above all other players. Trotter seems to have some good offensive abilities, but I don’t know if he’s got the edge to go above that and make the NHL.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  543. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Thanks for replying! Interesting stuff.

  544. avatar_58 says:

    He and Desharnais are their scorers so of course they look good. The question is, unfortunately, where do they from here given they aren’t very big? Our club has too many short guys

  545. Ayan_SB says:

    Tinordi would see regular powerplay time on a regular USHL team .. the perfect defensive defenseman to pair with an elite offensive defenseman,
    because Tinordi has skill to work with skilled players .. nobody in the
    USNTDP or the USHL appears to be as prepared to step into pro hockey
    right now as Tinordi ..
    you win Stanley Cups with guys like Tinordi paired with your all-star offensive defenseman ..

    Too bad we don’t have a prospect who may turn out to be an elite offensive defensive…;)

  546. Bill J says:

    Damn that PK Subban, if only he was a Offensive Defenseman.

    Oh the rotten luck we have!

    lol ;)

  547. Hockey Socks says:

    Great pick

  548. RC-51 says:

    Good pick


  549. CBrady12 says:

    I think hes actually 6-5

  550. habsfansince91 says:

    i’m liking this pick more and more

  551. habsruleleafssuck says:

    think this is going to turn into a good pick for the habs.

  552. ed lopaz says:

    last night I liked the pick, this morning my stomach is starting to turn. it seems that Gainey has his name all over this pick – Tinordi’s father and Gainey were this and that and the other thing, yada, yada, yada. As Boone posted, we passed on some good guys, and traded our # 2 for this guy. I’m not a fan of drafting the GM’s friend’s son. That’s usually not how Stanley Cups are won these days.

  553. mike g says:

    You gotta realize one thing Ed…

    Were not the only team who passed up on those same guys. So many guys were projected to go in the top 5-10, and didn’t end up there. Some were projected between 10-20, and didn’t even get drafted last night.

    All I know is Bob McKenzie had Tinordi ranked at #23, we got him at #22. But so many things change during the draft. Some teams need a scoring forward, some are really thin on the back end. So teams will not always draft the best player available, but most often the best player available for their biggest need.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  554. 24 Cups says:

    Ed – I’m not sure we passed on any really good guys. The well was starting to go dry near the end. Most of the prospects from 25-40 are pretty interchangeable.

    I see Tinordi’s genetic code as being a huge plus. None of us have really seen him play that much (Isn’t that true for most of these young players? I love how all of us, including 24 Cups, go on and on about these players like we have watched them play for their entire lives. Short of a player being a hometown boy, it’s mostly about what we have read and researched). He seems to have a solid pedigree and was captain of his team. Doesn’t sound like he’s a SK74.

  555. Keith says:

    I like it, I like it!!!

  556. warriorhockey says:

    but we had 2 picks in the 4th round 23 and 27 who is the other guy !??!?!?!?!


  557. Puck Bard says:

    Dude, read below man:

  558. Puck Bard says:

    draft stream link:

  559. SeriousFan09 says:

    Wow, how hard is it run a Draft on a web page? No one seems to be getting it straight right now, sad.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  560. nightmare_49 says:

    Morgan Ellis will be the new captain of the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles. The area where he comes from in P.E.I. is pretty rough so i suspect Ellis is another Mattieu Carle with stones.

  561. ZepFan2 says:

    So, we trade a Jaro and obtain a Jarred.



    Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.”
    – Sam Pollock

  562. mike g says:

    I can’t recall another draft having had only one trade involving current NHL players….

    I really hope we see some soon, make it fun for the viewers, you know.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  563. smiler2729 says:

    Why are you all fretting over draft picks this year (other than Tinordi)? These guys are years away from playing in the NHL if at all.

    We should be more concerned with if and when prospects like Danny Kristo, Ian Schultz and Lars Eller make it up… I’ve given up on David Fischer et al.

  564. ABHabsfan says:

    With FLA trading Ballard, therefore more holes on d in the near future, how about trading Hamrlik to the Panthers for 1 of their 2nd round picks (they have 4). Just a thought but a good deal for both sides IMO

  565. mike g says:

    Did you hear how rough Bettman’s voice was last night…

    Must’ve been a long night of partying on Thursday. I somehow think his drink of preference is a Shirley Temple.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  566. andrewberkshire says:

    Habs just drafted Brendan Gallagher in the 5th round.

    With this guys stats in the tough as nails WHL as a 17 year old, how the hell was he available in the 5th round???? Is he a nutcase or what?

  567. Bill J says:

    I’m thinking his height scared folks off.

    Height 5.08

  568. gmd says:

    He’s 5’8″ perfect for the Habs!  Actually though I’m liking the team’s picks so far.

  569. TomNickle says:

    Funny how the size of a child scares people off.

    This kid could easily be 5’11 by the time he’s done growing.


  570. ed lopaz says:

    I agree with you and Mike. I like his size. I like the fact that he was a Captain of that great US team. I liked his father – he was a solid, if unspectacular player. I hope he pans out. I was just a bit disturbed by the fact that Gainey and the father are friends = special treatment.

  571. 24 Cups says:

    I think Rundblad might have played with Karlsson and he also just signed an entry level contract so he’s going to be playing somewhere in Ottawa’s system. 

    The Isles have some decent defensive prospects (de Haan, Hamonic, Ness) but why not trade down five spots and still get your man?  That way you also pick up another asset.  They did that with Bailey a few years ago.

    It’s usually best to go with a sure thing when you’re drafting in the 4th spot.  I’m not totally sold on Garth Snow as a GM.

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