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It’s been a quiet day so I thought I would do a little research.
Including and since Toe Blake Montreal has had 17 head coaches (not counting Gainey twice). Of the 17 only 5 had previous NHL experience ; Scotty, Boom Boom, Bob Berry, Demers and JM.
Of the “Rookies” 4 have won Stanley Cups Blake, Ruel, McNeil and Perron. for 10 CUPS.
Of the experienced only Scotty and Jacques Demers have won the CUP (6) .
Of the 12 newbies 7 coached again in the NHL McNeil, Perron, Lemaire, Burns, Vigneault, Therrien and Julien with Lemaire, Burns and Julien winning the Stanley Cup and Vigneault and Therrien going to the FINALS.
Blake, Ruel, Geoffrion, Demers, Tremblay, Carbonneau and Martin have not had head coaching NHL jobs again.
After leaving Montreal Lemaire, Burns and Vigneault have gone on to win Coach of the Year,
Of the “rookie” coaches after Bowman Pat Burns 60.93% and Jean Perron 58.75% have the best winning percentage.
None of this means much It was just something to look up
The success rates even putting aside their records with the Habs is quite remarkable. If one were to do a similar analysis of recent Leaf coaches, there aren’t many Cups even with other teams. Wilson, Maurice, Quinn, Murphy, Brophy, Nielsen. Burns won with an already successful team in New Jersey.
“May you live in interesting times.”
The forwards, other than the Cole, Desharnais, Pacioretti line and Pleks and Eller are going through the motions. It looks to me like they are “coasting” and looking forward to the golf season.
The defense is too young to and raw to play at this level for a full year. Emelin, PK, Georges are good but the rest are average. Need more veterans on D who are “pluggers”
The team and organization are a mess and need a top hockey informed executive. Management is displayed on the ice.
RC is a good assistant coach and appears to be in over his head at times as head coach – good man though and an asset to the organization. Not fair to have been thrown in the way he was!
First, suggestions that the Habs must cut loose, get rid of or dump some of the young players we have in Montreal today.
Second, suggestions that the Habs don’t have any good or big enough young players in the system today.
If the first is done, how can you back fill?
If the second is correct, how can you do the first?
Geez, Carolina looks like they might just barely miss the playoffs. That Kirk has got em playing eh?
The latest from JT. Be sure to check out the link at the end.
Is it me or since the Habs have fallen out of the playoff race this place has dried up like an old grape?
Summer time will be even worse accept for around Draft time.
I tried watching the draft a couple times….man does that suck
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Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.
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No it is just you who is dried up.
Said the man who was mistaken for one of the California Raisins.
Alot of people care alot less about the Habs now that they are out of the playoffs, I too care alot less about the games.
But I like to keep watching as we’ll be without hockey for a long time, might be even longer if the new CBA hits a snag.
RC : “Merci beaucoup.”
Cal it isn’t just you, reality is there is nothing left to talk about this team. All we can do now is wait for the summer and see what the Winds of Change bring to our Habs.
Will we get a new GM? With that comes a new coach, will this GM doing any trading prior to draft, or wait until after to see what we end up with?
While it serves our Habs well to get a mini rebuild through the draft this year, it certainly is depressing watching these 15-20 games of the season with no playoff aspirations. We will have to put on hold our Dare to Dream until next year, and more likely the year after.
Until then we can look forward to the updates of a certain goalie playing for a musical note team in Missouri!
Until then happy listening
I feel more like this:
The Hockey News has just released it’s latest annual edition of Future Watch. It ranks the top 50 prospects in the NHL as well as the top ten for each individual team. It has it’s limitations as I think the writing is completed around Christmas.
Habs in the top 50 – Beaulieu (33rd), Leblanc (47th) and Tinordi (50th).
Montreal’s top ten prospects – Beaulieu, Leblanc, Tinordi, Gallagher, Palushaj, Bournival, Engqvist, Avtsin, Kristo and Holland. I find it interesting that if you include White, Montreal has 6 natural RWs who will be trying to win the two (or three) open spots after Cole and Gionta. I also find it strange that Morgan Ellis didn’t make the list. BTW, Blake Geoffrion was listed #4 on Nahsville’s top ten. I would place him around 5th on Montreal’s list.
NHL’s overall top ten – Kuznetsov, Granlund, Huberdeau, Doug Hamilton, Zibanejad, Taresenko, Scheifele, Markstrom, Strome and Gormley.
Justin Schultz, a possible 21 year old UFA on July 1st, is ranked 21st overall
And look where those top players are going-Ottawa, Boston, Washington, Florida, etc. So our division and rivals are getting some studs, we gotta keep up!
“I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”
nick – I thought the same thing. Florida is ranked 2nd overall, Ottawa was 5th while the Isanders came in 8th spot. Washington was 11th and also have two 1st and 2nd rounders due to the Colorado trade for Varlomov. Montreal was listed 28th which tells me that THN doesn’t think much about the Hab prospects that come after Tinordi.
Do you blame them? Gallagher is an offensive powerhouse but is way to small to up similar numbers in the Big Boys league. Palushaj could be a no. 1 center in the AHL, but will be limited to third or fourth line duty in NHL. Same with Engqvist and Avtsin. These guys are career AHLers and injury band-aids. The book is still out on Kristo, Holland and Bournival. One of these guys might be another Higgins or Ryder, potential 20 goal scorer.
Let’s face it, our prize pony is Beaulieu.
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– Jerry Maguire
Twenty-four, you and Chris and HabFab post great stuff on prospects and other such things. Kinda don’t miss the serious riceman. Danny Kristo appears to have had a significant development year with the Fighting Sioux.
This issue was awful. They underrate MTL so badly and how you explain EDM being #1??????
I think TNH cheated a bit when they included Edmonton’s NHL prospects (Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Paajarvi and Hall) as part of their team rankings. Having said that, there is no doubt that Edmonton has the best kids especially seeing that they wil get another top three pick this summer.
Avstin may turn out to be the most talented player to ever participate in a practice or scrimage…(sigh)
So Steve Simmons figures Columbus has to trade the #1 overall pick if they get it, in fact probably the 2nd overall if that is where they end up. The PR disaster that was Filatov and Zherdev can’t be repeated.
So if your Montreal, who would you have to add from the roster to flip picks with Columbus if you wanted the 1st or 2nd pick?
So might this be BB’s way of keeping his job? If so, who would Toronto trade? Phaneuf? Kessel?
Fail to Fail for Nail
If I were Brian Burke I would make that deal. Schenn, another player and that first, and it would give the leafs a dynamic scorer, and they already have too many D. But i want them to suck, so please keep Schenn and your undrafted college 3rd liners.
Just saying that even if you’ve screwed your team up badly as a GM, there’s always something you can get the Toronto fans to bite on. Hope springs eternal at the Centre of the Universe.
I also heard that Edmonton was willing to trade their pick for an established defender.
Lets just trade everyone for the top 3 picks! Imagine 1,2 and 3 in the draft. Grigorenko, Yakupov and Murray drafted like that? A guy can dream…
Oh wait no one is talking about playoffs
Practice? Practice! Where did practice ever get this team?
Jack Toad comes up with “the Patch Line”? That’s it? He gets paid for this? Patchetic.
Today’s posts are going to be much patchwork.
Practice..??? seriously ???
St Denis should stay … cut Weber and Diaz loose.
They need to stay in shape for golf season dontcha know.
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Illogical. Disregarding the concept of depth is a doorway to more whining when injuries occur and there is a scramble for bodies. No intelligent management would just out and out cut loose low-salaried serviceable defencemen like Weber and Diaz. Wizniewski was cut loose because he was deemed too expensive. Broken record time, Priceless goaltending, Patchman, Subbie Doo are looming tough RFA contract negotiations.
1 of Weber or Diaz has to go- too small to play D and too soft. St.Denis will have to find work elsewhere, too. Hard worker, but, again, too small. Tiny tot Dmen cannot compete in this league unless the 4 other skaters are behemoths and play that way.
Before you say Brian Campbell, I don’t think any of those 3 are as gifted offensively as Campbell. Beside, the last 20 games he played, Diaz was afraid to go for the puck.
personally I would get rid of both. Both are too soft and are not that great defensively
What boggles my mind is Leblanc not playing on Pleks’ wing… The guy has averaged just over 10 minutes a game. He has more offensive upside than White and Moen. Why not?
Even the CBC colour guy opined that LL should be playing top 6 minutes. But the CH seems to cling to its hidebound ways and practices, the first item of which is to convert offensive guys to defensive guys.
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