Canadiens acquire Sopel, Dawes from Thrashers

The Canadiens on Wednesday acquired defenceman Brent Sopel and forward Nigel Dawes from the Atlanta Thrashers in return for forward Ben Maxwell and a fourth round draft pick.

Sopel is a veteran defenceman who won the Stanley Cup with the Chicago Blackhawks last season. In 59 games this season, the 34-year-old right-hander has two goals and five assists with the Thrashers. Sopel is making $2 million this season – with a cap hit of $2.3 million – and becomes an unrestricted free agent on July 1.

Two stats of note: Sopel was leading Atlanta in penalty-killing ToI at 3:21 per game (20th in the NHL) and was second in blocked shots (10th in the league), with 130 in 59 games.

Sopel will not be in the lineup against the Maple Leafs on Thursday night.

Dawes has only played nine games in the NHL this season, registering only one assist. In 47 games in the American Hockey League, the 5-foot-9, 195-pound forward has 27 goals and 17 assists.

More to come.

• Thanks to video scout Jarred Friedman for Sopel mic’d up

Sopel on Twitter: “Off to Montreal – let the games begin!!” and “Just about to take off. Got to love this part of the game. I had like 90 mins to pack and get to the airport. Thanks to the Atlanta fans.”

The latest Sopel Tweet: “Looking forward to getting to Montreal to start the running for another Stanley Cup.”

Mrs. Sopel’s blog


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The team’s release:

MONTREAL (February 24, 2011) – Montreal Canadiens general manager Pierre Gauthier announced today that
the team acquired defenseman Brent Sopel and forward Nigel Dawes from the Atlanta Thrashers, in return for
forward Ben Maxwell and a 4th round pick in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft. Sopel will join the Canadiens tonight, while
Dawes will report to the AHL Hamilton Bulldogs.
Sopel, 34, played in 59 of the Thrashers 61 games thus far this season, recording seven points (2 goals, 5
assists) while averaging 16:25 of time on ice. He totalled 40 shots on goal and 16 penalty minutes. Sopel currently
ranks second on the team, first among defensemen with a +7 plus/minus differential, and ranks second on the club,
7th in the NHL with 130 blocked shots.
The 6’2 and 205 lbs defenseman, who won the Stanley Cup with the Chicago Blackhawks in 2010, is in his 11th
NHL season. Since he first joined the NHL back in 1998-99, Sopel amassed a total of 218 regular season points (44
goals, 174 assists) in 647 regular season games with the Vancouver Canucks, New York Islanders, Los Angeles
Kings, Chicago Blackhawks and Atlanta. He has a career +33 plus/minus differential and totaled 309 penalty
minutes. Sopel also played in 64 career playoff games, registering 17 points (3 goals, 14 assists). He played in all
Blackhawks 22 playoff games in 2010 recording six points (1-5-6).
A native of Calgary, Sopel was a 6th round selection, 144th overall, by the Vancouver Canucks at the 1995 NHL
Entry Draft.
Dawes, 26, played in nine games with the Thrashers in 2010-11, his fourth NHL season. The 5’09” and 200 lbs
forward recorded one assist while averaging 11:11 of time on ice. He is currently 4th in scoring with the AHL Chicago
Wolves with 44 points in 47 games (27 goals, 17 assists). He leads the team, and ranks 3rd in the AHL in goals (27).
Born in Winnipeg, Dawes was a 5th round pick, 149th selection overall, by the New York Rangers in 2003. He
played in a total of 208 career regular season games in the NHL with the Rangers, Phoenix Coyotes, Calgary Flames
and Atlanta Thrashers. He registered 84 career points (39 goals, 45 assists) and 43 penalty minutes.
Selected in the 2nd round by the Canadiens, 49th overall in 2006, Ben Maxwell was held scoreless in 20 games
with the Canadiens during the 2008-09 and 2009-10 seasons. This year with the Hamilton Bulldogs, he recorded 40
points in 47 games (11 goals, 29 assists) and 32 penalty minutes.

588 Comments

  1. Malreg says:

    We went from not having a single right-handed defenseman in the lineup to too many! PK, Weber, Wiz, Sopel…

  2. krob1000 says:

    I will now pray

  3. fbkj says:

    actually it was the centennial opening game

  4. ooder says:

    ya i guess it’s really for hamilton’s sake.. maybe help cunningworth out a bit..

    especially if they’re taking maxwell..

    however i like likehoy’s answer better :)

    ——————

    GWG = game winning gionta!

  5. Malreg says:

    Argggg that one always gets me!  It has nothing to do with the internet, I’ve always mixed those two up.

  6. nickster13 says:

    Sopel-Sandpapery? Maybe 3 years ago, now he can’t even play defence for the thrashers, they scratched him recently a handful of times, doesnt sound quite as good

  7. Scott in Montreal says:

    True, but those four are the only R’s in the roster. Mara, Festerling, Nash, Picard, Gill, Hamr, Markov and Gorges are all L’s.

  8. smiler2729 says:

    Steven Wright NOT Stephen Wright.

  9. RGM says:

    Subtract two Grammar Police points for not capitalizing English. Subtract one additional point for not capitalizing Internet.

    Go Habs Go!

  10. EastCoastJoe says:

    Markov, Hammer, Sopel all UFA’s.  Weber, Gorges RFA’s

    Subban and Spacek are the only signed D at this point.  Though that’s not a terrible lineup, the Habs needn’t be handcuffed by feeling they can only sign current roster players, depending on the health of Markov and Gorges.  I’d sign Gill to another year, maybe two for the right price.  At the very least, he’s hilarious.  Maybe offer Wiz a contract, though there are moments I cringe when he has the puck in his own end.  I haven’t looked at the available crop.  Maybe this IS the way to go.

  11. smiler2729 says:

    English the language, unlike English the nationality, doesn’t require capitalization unless it begins a sentence. Nor does internet. Another misconception.

  12. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    You would have come off as WAY smarter had you pointed out that the “then” part (as opposed to THAN) would indicate that he is indeed being brought here to play in the NHL. Oh well, better luck next time!

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  13. fbkj says:

    yes and no, the ihabs app is frigging buggy

  14. Scott in Montreal says:

    I like this trade. It signals to the team the GM is happy with what he’s got and sees potential for a lengthy playoff run. Sopel is a right-hand shot, and is finally the kind of guy we needed to take Gorges spot in the line-up. He is great in his own end, and has tons of valuable play-off experience. He and Gill on the PK should be a treat. This allows Hamr and Subban to catch their breath, and the Wiz and Weber have less pressure on them too. Dawes is insurance I guess.

    Only down side is Maxwell is the featured player on my Habs calendar for the month of March (of course November it’s Markov, and December it’s Halak!)

    …i guess this also means Spacek is out for the season.

  15. likehoy says:

    cause dawes is short

    - Gomez is holding down the “overpaid” button

  16. DearyLeary says:

    Sopel is UFA next year.

  17. SLYDER says:

    This is why PG hasnt made any big splash for a rental D

     

    NEXT YEAR

     

    Markov-Subban

    Gorges-Hammer

    Weber-Sopel

    (7th could be Brendan Nash?? Picard? Mara?)

     

  18. Malreg says:

    Dawes was included more for Hamilton’s sake then for the Canadiens.  Hamilton has been pretty decimated by call-ups already (Weber, Desharnais, Pacioretty, White), and they just traded another one of Hamilton’s top 6 forwards, so they got Dawes to help out in the AHL.

    Stop moaning about his size when he wasn’t even brought here to play in the NHL.

  19. gohabsgo25 says:

    FIRE GAUTHIER

  20. RetroMikey says:

    Wrong!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  21. SeriousFan09 says:

    Sopel not playing tonight, Dawes is deployed to HAM as per reports.

    Next likely Bulldog to move is Mathieu Carle if they’re going to keep moving farmhands who aren’t expected to crack the lineup.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  22. habitat says:

    Sopel and Dawes, certainly not hateful. If Spacek is out for the season, I believe our cap situation improves by adding Sopel and Spacek sitting out on IR. Another thought, Maxwell probably would not be playing with the A team. Dawes has some potential, maybe even trade bait with an AKos trade. We might get our 4th back in the next trade. Hopefully we pick up a sizeable gritty forward with scoring ability, please not a rental.

    The calm before the storm, I do not believe PG is done, I can dream.   

  23. The Big O says:

    Great get another 5.9 forward…at least P.G. could have tried for a Eric Boulton or Jim Slater…someone with some size and sand paper…but no, we’re intent on recreating the smurfs on ice…

  24. twilighthours says:

    Crappy.  I thought he might make it in.

  25. MikeL says:

    Good trade. We needed defenseive depth, and we got a good shotblocker and PK guy.

    Maxwell never seemed like an NHLer to me. Seemed like he didn’t work hard enough and was a little too soft. Really not worried about losing him.

  26. TomNickle says:

    Sopel won’t play tonight per Lavoie.

  27. filincal says:

    Good acquisition….I wanted to Sopel to be signed a couple years ago before he went to Chicago. As for Dawes…I think when he comes up he’ll give his line a pretty good boost of energy.

     

     

     

     

     

    I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!

  28. smiler2729 says:

    Milan Luchicken just got a little yellower and will probably have the flu on the 8th

  29. NightRyder says:

    The exodus in the nation’s capital continues as the Ottawa Senators shipped veteran forward Alex Kovalev to the Pittsburgh Penguins on Thursday for a conditional seventh-round pick.

    If Pittsburgh wins the first round of the playoffs and Kovalev plays in at least fifty percent of the games, the pick becomes a sixth-round selection.

    Fire sale!!

  30. HabFanSince72 says:

    Sopel is a UFA this summer. Cap hit M$2.2

  31. Say Ash says:

    Was that the 6-5 comeback?

  32. smiler2729 says:

    “then for the Canadiens”

    C’mon, man, it’s THAN not THEN. Sorry but the internet and its effect on the english language and grammar needs to be nipped in the bud.

  33. ooder says:

    good trade… deffinately helps out the D

    i wonder what the point of aquiring Dawes is though

    ——————

    GWG = game winning gionta!

  34. Bugs says:

    This trade brought to you by Dezzy Dezarnay Travel.

    “Buttin ahead in the lineup gets you places!”

  35. HabFanSince72 says:

    The owner is wealthy, but the team is a consistent money loser.

    I suspect Kroenke didn’t get rich by wasting money. I could be wrong.

    I know the Molsons got rich by inheriting money.

    In any case  our overpaid unwanteds for a perennial all-star isn’t a deal that Colorado has any reason to make.

  36. Jordio-oh says:

    reckon Spacek is just going to retire?

  37. CowtownCanadien says:

    Sopel a solid D man and Dawes for the farm. I like this deal. PG just might know what he is doing!

  38. c.robillard says:

    Kovalev back to Pittsburgh! Awesome!

  39. TomNickle says:

    Okay,  does Gomez, Weber and Kostitsyn get Stastny out of Colorado?

    Keep in mind their ownership is wealthier than ours and they have a very low cap payroll.

  40. DearyLeary says:

    Dawes is RFA next year

    Sopel is UFA, 2.3 cap hit.

  41. SLYDER says:

    I like this move for this reason: PG has made it clear he isnt willing to mortgage the future for a big name rental on the back-end (AKA Chris Phillips). Markov and Gorges are out for the season, not forever. Clearly PG still views these two (as im sure everyone else does) as his #1 and #2. PG is saving his big splash for the scoring power forward we obviously need. The small, inexpensive moves to pick up Mara and Sopel are likely all we will see in regard to replenishing the defence for the time being. It also tells us that he is most certainly on the hunt for a long term solution to our size and scoring deficit up front. If the right move isnt there before tuesday, this will be the team that plays in the post-season, thus making the off-season an interesting one for PG himself and the fans.

  42. SLYDER says:

    Markov and Subban together – with a side of Weber – provide PLENTY of offencee for that defence. No need for Wiz and his defensive liability.

     

    Spacek is too old and has proven himself too soft (See Boston brawl and his “fight” against MacArthur). Thank him for his services, he played well.

     

    As for Gill…I’ve had a serious hate on for him since he arrived. Many of his skills and intangibles can be found in a hockey player who can skate. And his size can be found in players that can use it. His humor can already be found on the current roster.

     

    …and dont forget…Tinordi waits in the weeds

  43. SLYDER says:

    Subban-Gill

    Hammer-Wiz

    Sopel-Weber

    Mara 

  44. Chris says:

    You were just happy that your pants buzzed.  ;)

  45. SmartDog says:

    Good morning, sunshine.

  46. munch17 says:

    Anyone know their contract status / cap hit?

  47. likehoy says:

    geez PG, just sign theo fleury already!

    5’9 nigel dawes…

    next thing is to trade benoit pouliot for nathan gerbe cause he’s just too damn big for this team!

    not a bad trade nonetheless…we have more depth, which was starting to run thin.

    - Gomez is holding down the “overpaid” button

  48. fbkj says:

    chick friend of mine from jersey, huge rangers fan… i take her to see the rags up here once a year… 2 years ago, dawes father was sitting in back of her, totally hitting on her, got her number etc

    she just sent me a txt “LOL say hi to lloyd for me!”

  49. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Well now that you’ve added SERIOUS………

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  50. Say Ash says:

    Who would you pair Sopel with?

  51. SmartDog says:

    Unless you think Maxwell is a SERIOUS future top-6 forward, this is a great trade.

    We get a big cup-winning, responsible, sandpapery shut-down D man.

    AND we replace one small but interesting forward with another – a guy who ranks 3rd in the AHL in goals (27).  

    Add a 4th rounder to make it all happen… this is sweet!

    (BTW, a few years ago Sopel was traded for a 2nd round pick.)  

     

  52. saf says:

    I believe they are both UFA’s come July 1.  Dawes is on a two-way contract so he is certainly bound for Hamilton but can come up in an emergency.  

     

    Wasn’t Dawes placed on waivers to be sent down from Atlanta?  If so, does he have to pass through waivers to come to Montreal as a call-up?  

     

    It’s a pretty fair trade.  Atlanta gets a decent mid-range draft pick, a player with some potential (Maxwell is only 22) and some salary relief.  Montreal gets playoff defensive help and a player with NHL experience as emergency forward depth (at a slight discount form last year’s emergency help … which was Maxwell).  

     

  53. Sportfan says:

    Will we get to see them in action tonight >>

  54. OneTimer says:

    No Gill bro?

  55. Jeff says:

    Gomer & Kossista plus Weberot for Stastny…..have u started drinking again?

    Sopel & Dawes now Canadiens….a veritable Hobbitville, Quebec!  Muahhhh!

     

  56. fbkj says:

    nooooo year after that one

    early decemberish

  57. SeriousFan09 says:

    Put more scoring depth in HAM? Maybe Habs would like to try and pump up his value and then move him this summer.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  58. observer says:

    neither team can score on 5 on 5. both have that weakness. habs because of lack of size. leafs because of lack of skill except kessell.

  59. observer says:

    another the most glaring issue! in boston game they lost 8-6 yes they scored a lot of goals but power play most of them. tonight again scored 2 power plays and the only one on 5 on 5 was a shot from the point deflected after a terrible icing call against toronto. fact is 5 on 5 habs need more size up front and gauthier had better do something because all the other teams have got habs figured out and they cant get inside the defense with those small forwards.

  60. observer says:

    its also the linesmen!

  61. dallyd31 says:

    I see two glaring issues.  Firstly…giveaways galore in our end.  Secondly…very lazy half hearted effort.  Lazy waving of the stick or bg wide turns instead of battling or finishing their check.

    Cammy looks so out of shape and not ready out there it’s brutal.

  62. Everlasting1 says:

    Wow lol

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

     “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  63. observer says:

    For all you Burke/ Kessell haters – Kessell has played 132 games for the Leafs his 2 seasons there with 55 goals and 42 assists or 97 points.

  64. LA Loyalist says:

    Isn’t it the coach’s job to prepare the team for each new opponent? Just wondering what Mr. Happy was doing since the Vancouver game, that’s all.

    Our boys look like they’re in that TV show: Lost

  65. adam76 says:

    What the f*ck was the point of that?  Price needed the night off and we have important games coming up against legit teams.  

     

    Dumb move Martin, stick with the plan YOU crafted.

  66. adam76 says:

    What the f*ck was the point of that?  Price needed the night off and we have important games coming up against legit teams.  

     

    Dumb move Martin, stick with the plan YOU crafted.

  67. canadiens26 says:

    How is lifting a guys stick a hooking call? That is some backwoods reffing

  68. observer says:

    komisarek all fired up tonight

  69. zaq007 says:

    I wish there were no pp in this game I think we’d kill them 5 on 5

  70. Duracell3 says:

    I don’t understand the moen penalty at all. The guy behind him holds him far more than he does anything to komi.

  71. LA Loyalist says:

    The word has come down that Leafs need to make the playoffs and we need to play along.

    The payoff to us is that they keep Komisarek.

  72. canadiens26 says:

    Go get a strong drink and rethink that one. Second goal was weak, we all know that. The first was a very good snipe by an all-star player (having an off year) and the third was probably stoppable but when you play such a minimal amount of games what can you expect?

  73. Everlasting1 says:

    Anyone still whining about the officiating? That call on Sjostrom was bs as he was shoved into Price by Mara.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  74. observer says:

    jackson was born in montreal.

  75. observer says:

    im watching on leafs telecast and even both their announcers said it.

  76. Trisomy 21 says:

    Is that a question? because he pretty well covered that

  77. Trisomy 21 says:

    really really

  78. canadiens26 says:

    And now the refs try and equalize the penalties. WOW

  79. zaq007 says:

    Why is that Toronto player in that box by himself? xD jkjk

  80. zaq007 says:

    Replying to my own post but BOO YAH!

  81. Muckbringer says:

    oh i feel it oh i feel it, were coming back. men vs boys!

  82. observer says:

    he’s scored 55 goals with 20 games left in this season should score roughly 10 more or 65 goals for both years an average of about 32 goals per year but last year missed the much of the first 2 months of the season.

  83. observer says:

    hard for little forwards to get inside big defensemen. this is the best thing that could happen – gauthier is now forced to get some size upfront!

  84. Favorite Son says:

    Same story, penalties resulting in goals. No excuses. Stay out of the box.

  85. Muckbringer says:

    i have that feeling too.  id almost rather be down by 2 going into the second than up by 2 going into the third with this team

  86. slapshot777 says:

    Not asking for much, just a level playing field when it comes to officiating. I know both teams will get penalties……. or that is the way it is suppose to be. I can”t understand how a hold by one team is a penalty and the same hold by the other team is not. What the f..king difference?

     

    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  87. Hobie Hansen says:

    Goofy period of officiating in that period, wow!

    Goofy period of officiating in that period, wow!

  88. savethepuck says:

    I agree, but this reffing job has to change.  They are brutal

  89. observer says:

    when they had 6 teams they had maybe 4 or 5 refs. now the have 30 teams 2 refs per game must be close to 100 refs? watered down worse than the players.

  90. LA Loyalist says:

    What if the Zamboni parts came in a nice bag, with a string closure? You could use it for laundry or something.

  91. savethepuck says:

    I agree, but this reffing job has to change.  They are brutal

  92. LA Loyalist says:

    … and you have to allow that he’s not playing with the best players. He’d probably score more on a good team.

     

  93. zaq007 says:

    Alright boys comeback time!…what only me?

  94. observer says:

    he really is?

  95. slapshot777 says:

    Are you stupid? or is that the height of your intelligence.

     

    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  96. Muckbringer says:

    anyone else watching sportsnet?  this is the worste coverage.  its all advertising and pro leaf.  the 3rd will be rds and i forever give up on snont, tsn…im gonna give cbc their props though

  97. NCRhabsfan says:

    The fix is in!

    How did the NHL go from having decent officiating to the worst on the planet. It is the worst part of the NHL now. Epic Fail!

    How does Colin Campbell have a job? Anyone else that creates this big a mess would have been in the unemployment line long ago. Now would be a good time for him to go there.

  98. observer says:

    on sportsnet telecast right now – they are saying the same why would martin start auld in this spot. btw – last time leafs beat habs auld was also in nets.

  99. observer says:

    hamrlick cant clear the zone and price miracle in last minute keeps score at 3-1. 2nd kessel goal a joke as kessell undresses hamrlick for puck. BUT this is as i said today the BEST thing because now gauthier will be forced to do something and get a or some big forwards who can score. where is kostitsyn tonight? is he invisible?

  100. adam76 says:

    He was, statistically, the worst possible backup available.  On top of that, we paid him a million, when we could have got Biron for half of that.

    Martin dicided to toss away this game to give price some rest, he cant even do that right.  unreal.

  101. slapshot777 says:

    I guess the officiating is going to decide the game tonight. This idiot jackson, I guess trying to show he is not bias being from Montreal, calls a really weak call on Gionta. He is letting Komisarek do what he like and the Habs get nailed. Grabvosky grabs onto Gionta and nothing. Pure bullsh!t.

     

     

    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  102. HABS_FAN_NS says:

    It’s Sportsnet Ontario so it will be pro leaf obviously but the ads are driving me nuts as well. That stupid cordless phone promotion takes up the entire bottom half of the screen when they show it , which is about every 5 minutes. The only reason I’m watching it on Sportsnet is because its HD. I wish Rogers would create a Habs Sportsnet because every other team in Canada has one

  103. observer says:

    leafs announcers. but they also said gionta dint deserve penalty. and knocked those terrible icing calls.

  104. zaq007 says:

    I don’t know why but when people always use the lets trade them for “zamboni parts” or “a bag of pucks” it just sounds so stupid

  105. dallyd31 says:

    Wow, I’m not sure if I’ve seen a more poorly reffed game in a while. What a joke

  106. Displaced says:

    That prorates to a 60 point season.  How is that worth two (high) first rounders and a second???  He may as well offered $12m/year for 15 years to pick up Kovalchuk and surrounded him with top players picked with his first rounders.

    TWhose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  107. habs365 says:

    big trade today..we’ll win the cup now..Dawes 4-teams got rid of him and Sopel 5-teams got rid of him and guess who picked them up..the Dumb get Dummer….

  108. jimmy shaker says:

    Can one of our coach’s tell our D that in the NBA you can’t touch a player while defending them…..but this is the NHL…… move the guys out of the way of the goalies so they can see the puck for the love of GOD.  All this fronting and stick checking.  Hit the son of a bitch (without the stick) and get them out of our poor goalies sight line.  I can’t take anymore of this shite defending!!!

    Shaker

     

  109. duffy says:

    I had to turn to RDS , Listening to Bowen and Millen made me puke. They have to be the worst in broadcasters.

  110. zaq007 says:

    So much penalties so frustrsating, we’re only the second most penalized team right? I feel so bad for whoevers first =S

  111. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Alex Auld should not play another game in a Habs uniform. Never like his signing & he just sucks. Release or trade him foa zamboni parts.

  112. lavie says:

    Everytime PG signs a new player, I have to spend half day to study the player’s bio.

  113. observer says:

    to get a refs job all you need to do is be a good skater – knowledge of rules- not a pre-requisite.

  114. HABS_FAN_NS says:

    It’s Sportsnet Ontario so it will be pro leaf obviously but the ads are driving me nuts as well. That stupid cordless phone promotion takes up the entire bottom half of the screen when they show it , which is about every 5 minutes. The only reason I’m watching it on Sportsnet is because its HD. I wish Rogers would create a Habs Sportsnet because every other team in Canada has one

  115. Habmyster says:

    Now we go after after a forward with some size & skill.

  116. shiram says:

    switch the o with an u, look it up on urdan dictionary.

  117. andrewberkshire says:

    Can I put money down on the same side?

  118. fbkj says:

    livin on the edge is see

  119. shiram says:

    Finally? nah… just noting it here, as it was appropriate.

  120. Gormdog says:

    I feel like this is a huge moment in HIO history… Observer admitting he doesn’t believe in his own tripe and is just doing it to be a beeyatch…

     

    Well played Tony, Well played…

  121. OneTimer says:

    go away please, you bring nothing to the site

  122. fbkj says:

    id put money on him not knowing what contrary meant

  123. CanadienBoy says:

    27 goal to Max 11 you could be wrong

  124. Storm Man says:

    How is that racist? You do know Kane is black btw.

  125. shiram says:

    He seems to like being contrary

  126. fbkj says:

    you already said this today

  127. bostonantifan says:

    The problem with keeping 1st round picks instead of trading them is the Habs incredibly bad drafting for the past 30 or so years, expecially in the first round.  Who is the last “star” player (other than Price), they got with a first round pick?  Who is the last 30 goal scorer they’ve drafted?  I hope Gauthier fares better than his recent predecessors. 

  128. Exit716 says:

    What a bust Maxwell turned out to be. Too bad they took him ahead of Lucic.

     

  129. fbkj says:

    then why were you bitching about him, only to now praise him?

  130. observer says:

    but maybe some other big forward who can score? there are a bunch of teams in financial trouble?

  131. bostonantifan says:

    mike g, great comments, I agree with you totally!

  132. SeriousFan09 says:

    Last obscure PF they found is having a pretty good season, Max Pacosomethingorother…

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  133. gloveside says:

    It’s ALWAYS the friggin’ future. That’s the creedo of a losing franchise…”Wait until next year.” All NHL teams have the same salary cap and play the same number of games and if you are going to make the playoffs, you better be wanting to win The Cup or just go play golf with the Leafs. We’ve been saying “next year” for 18 years. It not like we have a deep feeder system or that free agents want to flock to Montreal. We should be going for it EVERY YEAR. Keep Pleks, Price and Subban…everyone else is tradeable [and even Subban should go for the right price...Stewart and Shattenkirk]

     

    We are not the Leafs or the Sens that hang Division banners, we are the friggin’ Montreal Canadiens! Let’s hang a new banner that reads “Playoff Participant”.

  134. billylove says:

    AK under 64.5? Is that for just this year or the last two years combined? Even if it’s the latter, you’re still under!

  135. observer says:

    but defense wins in the playoffs!

  136. CanadienBoy says:

    So we get the Wiz ,Mara ,Sopel to replace Markov, George and Spacky for a 2rd ,4rd and Lap not bad ,not bad at all

  137. SmartDog says:

    Being almost as good as Gomez in the goals department makes you the next Rocket?  What are you smoking?

    It’s only that Dawes may have some actual NHL value. At least he’s done a lot more than Maxwell.

  138. observer says:

    dawes a 5 foot nine forward. just what habs need.

  139. fbkj says:

    cool story bro, hes playing in hamilton

  140. observer says:

    “upsets” – get richards and they’ll be one of the favorites

  141. smiler2729 says:

    LOL Now THAT would be CLASSIC! Price in St.Louis with Halak, lol, watch Blues Inside/Out erupt!

  142. LA Loyalist says:

    I’m not as long as it isn’t Price, PK or Plex.

    I open my last ’82 Bordeaux and celebrate a happy, happy day.

  143. SmartDog says:

    They are friends and former teammates.

     

  144. Storm Man says:

    Set for what??? Dinner.

  145. Storm Man says:

    Lol…. You just never know with Tony.

  146. Mats Naslund says:

    his kids live in Chicago so I doubt they’d care

  147. naweed235 says:

    set for a couple of upsets in the playoffs this year and a serious cup run next year when Marky and Georges come back and no more significant injurries bug the team all season long… all this because we live in a perfect world !

  148. Danno says:

    Any chance he’ll play in tonight’s game?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  149. cautiousoptimist says:

    Come on Mike, would you really want Gauthier to be dealing away 1st-round draft picks to rent players that might make some decent contributions to a doomed 2011 playoff run?  Sopel is a 3rd or 4th D-man, on most teams in this league. And we already have four 7th defencemen?  I’m with you on Picard, and maybe Weber — though he’s really been improving — but you’re being a little harsh there.  If Sopel can steady our battered D, I’m all for it, and it costs us almost nothing.  Now we just need a trade for a top-six forward.  If Malkin and Crosby weren’t hurt, I’d say we might be able to wrangle Jordan Staal for something like AK46, Palushaj and a 3th.

  150. Mats Naslund says:

    Boston and Philly are in an entirely different situation than us. Those teams see now as their shot to win. With Price, PK, and Patches just emerging now is the time to act conservatively. If PG plays it right we could have a serious contender on our hands next season with so many UFAs/RFAs.

    We’re not that close to be trying to mortgage the future for the cup.

  151. SeriousFan09 says:

    Mike, Philly’s dealing high-value picks so they maximize their chances in their Cup window, 3rd year in a row now without a 1st-round pick (and they traded their 1st-round draftee Sbisa from 2008). They don’t do it soon, it’s going to hurt them badly for their future. MTL trading their 1st-rounder right now hurts building future depth.

    Kaberle has hit 55+ points twice in his 12 NHL seasons, that’s like calling Lecavalier a 40-goal scorer, something he’s only done twice in about the same number of NHL seasons. He’s soft and hasn’t shown a strong compete level in years. You really think a Maple Loaf is goinjg to be the guy who gets BOS their Cup?

    Apparently the PIT deal was hush-hush and DAL was looking for a young offensive defencemen who could provide instant impact, should we have traded Subban? Weber wasn’t going to cut it.

    Sopel being picked up means Spacek is likely out and he fills a need, a PK defencemen with grit and can provide solid minutes. Mara is a better 7th D than Picard (Who I suspect is getting turfed soon).

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  152. SeriousFan09 says:

    I guess it depends on who is left, some believe that after pick 15, it’s going to open up quite a lot and draft rankings will become much less relevant.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  153. Former Jets Fan says:

    If our rivals are adding offence, why not add defence?  It’s easier to prevent goals than score them.

  154. shootdapuck says:

    Please……Goatier and Timins will find an obscure power forward playing for an all girls prep school in New England.

    They will explain that he is a “project” but there will be ongoing complications over a failed saliva test.

     

     

    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  155. naweed235 says:

    its so funny how u think u r so funny

  156. Displaced says:

    Echoed by LeBrun on ESPN.com

    Sopel is a good penalty-kill man and shot blocker: two things the Habs have missed dearly since Gorges was knocked out of the lineup.

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  157. Danno says:

    Sopel displays more drive, effort and intensity in a practice than some of our players (who shall remain nameless) put out in an actual game.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  158. SmartDog says:

    Don’t know why everyone is saying Dawes is an AHLer.  His GPG is almost the same as Gomez (it’s about .19 vs, about .17).  If you take away this season, which has been a stall for both, he’d be AHEAD.

  159. HabFanSince72 says:

    That Mrs Sopel blog is something else. An excerpt:

    Doing MUCH better today.  Spending the day in bed helped bunches.  Curled up with my blanket watching the Notebook was a great way to spend the afternoon.  Hell, I even made the biggest plate of pasta and loaded it with butter and cheese!

    The kids were funny when I picked them up from school.  Me, being in my pajamas, telling them we had to stop at the store drew some silence.  I decided to make myself some lemon meringue martinis along with a big salad for dinner.

  160. naweed235 says:

    now get rid of Gomez and try to get Brad Richards  and we are set :) lol easier said than done…

  161. t1tan5 says:

    How did we take on too much salary? Sopel makes 2 million dollars of which roughly $500 000 counts against our cap (~20/82 games he should play with us).

  162. observer says:

    if reimer stones the habs tonight, gauthier will probably offer burke , price, plek, subban and pacoretti for grabovski, komisarek and reimer.

  163. naweed235 says:

    u sound so sure… lol where did u hear that from?

  164. fbkj says:

    bah clients got them

  165. mike g says:

    WOW, don’t know what the heck to think anymore….

    Philly adds a 20-25 goalscorer in Versteeg to their already stacked lineup.

    Boston adds a 55 point defenseman to an already solid d-group.

    PIT adds a 25-30 goalscorer in Neal, and Kovy for a bag of peanuts.

    And MTL adds “depth” with Mara and Sopel.

    WOW…

    PG finds a way to use our limited cap space to go out and get a 7th defenseman and add him to a team who already has 4 “7th defenseman”. A depth move for a team that has more depth players than gamebreakers. This trade adresses none of our needs, all it does is give Gill a rest here and there. Lateral trade, that erases our cap space.

    Year after year, we see the already good teams get better, and we see the Habs go from being a decent/bubble team to adding decent/bubble players.

    If you’re trying to improve your team, go out and do it. Don’t go shopping at Dollarama and pay 6$ if something isn’t worth that. Not saying we gave up much, but we took on way too much salary.

    Anyways….Glad to be posting again, was hoping I could be more positive.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  166. CanadienBoy says:

    Went you consider none of them can fight yes it a good short term addition

  167. Mark C says:

    I wouldn’t count Dawes out for making a contribution later this year or next year on the bottom-6. He can play a bit and has a history of scoring goals in the NHL.

    Mara and Sopel offer a huge upgrade in depth and Pking over Picard/Rivet/Souray. I’ll steal from Boone: Montreal was 1/2 in the league at the PK when Gorges went down, today the team is tied for 9th. This team needed better penalty killing D and needs to lessen the PK load on Subban.

     

  168. Malreg says:

    No idea… I believe they played together for Team Canada at Subban’s first WJC?

  169. longbow says:

    I see your point but in a weak draft finding a sniper is a real shot in the dark.I view the D-man as a safer bet. I would also bet that if Xavier Ouellet is still available they’ll take him with thier 2nd pick just to satisfy the locals.

     

    Einstein’s definition of insanity – “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”

  170. scrowe21 says:

    Gomez is gunna be traded soon..Either STL, PHO, or COL. Im just worried about what goes with him..

  171. Storm Man says:

    He should be 2 rows behind you tonight…

  172. SeriousFan09 says:

    They played together at the 2009 WJC.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  173. scrowe21 says:

    Sarcasm about Subban? Or are they actually friends?

  174. fbkj says:

    definitely yes

    if you are at the games

  175. Displaced says:

    How about Zherdev for NOTHING.

    leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  176. scrowe21 says:

    Well, they are trying to get Penner but I think EDM is asking for too much.

  177. observer says:

    thereis no great team like there was last year! i mean washington! sopel is a shot blocker – habs price will have to do what halak did and he does on many occasions like on tuesday night. i would still like to see them get a big forward who can score. there are still 4 days to go and a bunch of teams in financial trouble.

  178. mrhabby says:

    an odd trade…seems like a bit of a wash for sopel. i hope dawes gets his career back on track. makes our back end tougher and protects price.

    lets face it maxwell was going no where….

    got soemething for nothing.

  179. Malreg says:

    Some interesting tweets:

    @: Andrew Ladd called Brent Sopel the best shot blocker in the league.

    @: good luck @ in MTL have fun with my boy Subby!

     

  180. dh says:

    Too bad they probably won’t make it here tomorrow in the snow storm.  Kids from Atlanta would be impressed!

  181. LA Loyalist says:

    That’s “Intangibles” people, in case you were wondering. Welcome Brent Soppel!

  182. Mattyleg says:

    Anyone else remember EA’s NHL…07 or something? I remember Brent Sopel having the biggest doofus-looking photo.

    Just sayin’, ’cause…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  183. pmaraw says:

    geez, and here i always thought you were a leafs management fan and habs could never do anything right lol

  184. Displaced says:

    PG loves getting players on the cheap.  But why give up assets, even ones of modest value like a fourth, fifth and Maxwell for Dawes (rumored to be destined for the minors) and two d-men who were healthy scratches with the teams that traded them (Sopel and Mara).  I can’t believe a d-corp of Sopel, Mara, Gill, PK, Hamr, Wiz and Weber is demonstrably better than Gill, PK, Hamr, Wiz, Weber, Picard/Rivet/Souray/…

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  185. longbow says:

    Since we don’t know if there are more deals to come and if they will involve our 1st pick in 2011 or where we will be ranked at the draft here are three interesting possibilities. IMO we’ll be looking at D-men since it is a weak draft. Ranked at #18 is D  Myles Bell  6’0″ 209 lbs , At #23 is Scott Mayfield at 6’4″ 197 lbs and at #25 Jamie Oleksiak at 6’7″ 244 lbs.

    Part of me would one day like to see Lucic skating over our blue line only to see 6’7″ Tinordi and 6’7″ Oleksiak staring him down. I can’t see him getting too close to Price with those two out there.

    It’s fun to dream. lol

     

    Einstein’s definition of insanity – “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”

  186. Hobie Hansen says:

    Hopefully this is a sign that PG is trying to do what he can on the backend and saving his blockbuster move for a big top six forward…

  187. Mattyleg says:

    Weber has better defensive sense, doesn’t get caught out of position and makes very few mistakes. And has a good point-shot.

    One problem with Picard is that he was getting trapped checking people and not playing his position.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  188. observer says:

    Excellent that’s what I like to see the Habs bolster their team for the playoff run and take advantage of those teams in financial trouble. The best pre-deadline deal to help this team since 2004 when they got Kovalev off Sather.

  189. pmaraw says:

    sign of relief as i realized it was not kovalev, and that it wont be kovalev. i like sopel and have always thought he was underrated due to his hair cut, but i would rather see him lose his helmet wearing a habs jersey than kovalev again.

  190. Mattyleg says:

    Yay!

    This is a good deal.

    I’m glad all our rumour-millers spotted this one well in advance! Everyone was like: “Brent Sopel this,” and “Ben Maxwell that…” Right on!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  191. PeterD says:

    My hope is that with the addition of Mara and Sopel we have seeriously increased our toughness and grit on our back end…let’s face it Gill, Hammer and Spacek are not exactly tough guys…nice additions I think

  192. PeterD says:

    Had to laugh when I heard his team mates nick named him “Cube” as in Boullion Cube…but probably more to do with his stockiness and stature…always liked the guy…plays hard and strong.

  193. Shiloh says:

    couple of posters mentioned Bouillon. I used to love when I used Google translate for a LaPresse article and saw in come up Frank Bubbles.

  194. montrealtilldeath says:

    I have a question. Why is Picard always a healthy scratch? I have watched him play and he does not seem to be too bad. He makes the odd mistake. He is stronger and tougher than Weber. Weber has a better shot but as a defenceman along the boards behind the net he is not strong. That is a fatal weakness for a defenceman as most scoring plays originate from battles for puck control behind the net.

  195. HabsFanInTampa says:

    I hope I don’t jinx him or our team. But, I think the addition of Sopel to our blue line is a very good addition. He brings over a little bit of grit a la The Wiz.

  196. Marvin says:

    This is from Wikipedia, so I don’t know how accurate it is. If it is in fact correct, it says a lot about Sopel and his wife / family:

    QUOTE

    Brent is married to Kelly since 2001. They have 2 sons; Paul & Jacob and 2 daughters; Lyla & Jayla. Lyla has been diagnosed with dyslexia and dysgraphia. Like Brent. Paul was adopted in 2007, when he was 17 years old. His parents, who were family friends of the Sopels, both died in a short period of time. Brent and Kelly thought it would be best if they took care of him.

    ENDQUOTE

  197. Danno says:

    “Hockey Night in Canada really bugs my ass.” — Mike Boone. Quote of the day.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  198. PeterD says:

    Love Boones honesty

  199. PeterD says:

    I wonder about Picard as well…I figure management thinks there is more up side potential in Weber and PK than Picard and so want to give them more ice time, especially as Weber continues to improve as does PK…earlier in the season I think Weber sat a lot in favour of Picard…so I guess things changes…

    Other than that I don’t see Picard as a serious shutdown d-man so guys like GIll and now Sopel and Mara will take his spot…and what do you do with a guy like Hammer..he is huge on most every night..so I guess for Picard it becomes how doe she defien is his role in this years D.

    Too bad I guess he seems to be a fairly competent depth D-man but not one of our top 6-7

  200. gloveside says:

    Now we can plan the parade route. Dawes, Sopel and Mara…which one is the big goal scoring power forward? I forget? PG/BG better have something else up their collective sleeve!

     

    Kovy for a 7th [not that I'm saying I wanted him back] and we had to give up a body for Dawes?

  201. LA Loyalist says:

    Can I come back next year with a new idensity and abbatoir? “Frankie Bubbles” that is FANTASTIC – you have first dibs, of course…

  202. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    That picture of Sopels kids by the huge pile of laundry is hilarious. 

  203. Hobie Hansen says:

    Oh ya! It’s going to put us over the top LOL!

  204. observer says:

    “Does the Habs/Leafs rivalry still exist?” ——- http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=355220

  205. SeriousFan09 says:

    I have Oleksiak on my draft radar, but I think the Habs are more likely to lean towards a forward with high scoring potential since they could use more pure scorers in the system. Nicklas Jensen and Tomas Jurco are my leading candidates.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  206. Storm Man says:

    Stats you come on here with stats….. WOW. Dawes must be the next Rocket the way you talk about him:).

  207. zak says:

    Dawes will never play for the habs and I think Maxwell had more value with the dogs. So we lost a 4th round pick for someone who probably won’t be with the team next year.

  208. Storm Man says:

    I think you are smoking 420 btw. I have no clue how you can say a player in the AHL is as good as one in the NHL? I just think that statement is very silly.

  209. Storm Man says:

    Sure in a perfect world… But we won’t get Brad and so we will be setting the dinner table.

  210. observer says:

    he’ll be here soon enough. actually not that bad a player. watched a lot games when he was with the rangers.

  211. SPATS says:

    Sure, get rid of Gomer, but for what? Richards has “concussion like” symptoms

    I say send Gomer to the Bruins for Lucic (hahahaha)

    OOH AAH – HABS ON THE WARPATH!

  212. observer says:

    re:

    have fun with my boy Subby”

    —- that sounds both perverted and racist

  213. observer says:

    so you finally figured it out

  214. Former Jets Fan says:

    Better a 4th than the 2nd round picks they sent away the previous two seasons, no?

  215. rob_c says:

    send Pyatt with him lol

  216. shootdapuck says:

    Did he come from a Prep School like Fischer? Apple Valley HS a hockey powerhouse!

    No! He came from the USHL via University of Michigan! Hardly even close!

     

     

    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  217. Storm Man says:

    That is why i left that topic alone…

  218. andrewberkshire says:

    K, fine. I’ll bet that he copy/pastes a poorly formatted dictionary definition of contrary, and I tell him to put the vodka bottle down.

  219. fbkj says:

    checked urbandictionary for any funny definitions

    none

    :(

  220. fbkj says:

    how is it perverted? thats the one that made me not reply out of sheer creepyness

  221. andrewberkshire says:

    In fairness to Tom Pyatt, he scored 13 goals and 35 points in 41 games for Hamilton last year, he’d likely tear Canadian college teams to bits without trying.

  222. Duracell3 says:

    I thought Dawes was taller than 5’9, very stocky dude though.

  223. Gormdog says:

    What can i say… I like Nigel Dawes.

     

    He is scoring more goals in the AHL than Tom Pyatt would score playing for Concordia…

     

    Watched him play many a great game for the Rangers and Flames, I consider(ed?) him a high octane 3rd/4th line guy, and was shocked to find out he was filling AHL shoes this season.

     

    I mean, look at the stats. He’s not the solution to our problem, but He has talent and boullionesque size. Quite frankly I’d love to see him up with the Habs, if not just to give him a few games to see if he could be a shot in the arm to our bottom 6 offence…

  224. mrhabby says:

    kovy gone to pittsburgh

  225. Ian Cobb says:

    Boy! did they get a lemon. Pittsgurgh is on the skids now!

  226. Duracell3 says:

    for virtually nothing too.

  227. JIMVINNY says:

    I realize that you’re probably kidding, but please, don’t even joke about starting that here.  

  228. twilighthours says:

    I really hope they don’t give up on Weber.  I love his progress this year.

  229. HabFanSince72 says:

    You forgot Picard.

    I think you would definitely want 7 going into the playoffs.

     

  230. Habs_Fan_In_Edmonton says:

    Dawes is reporting to Hamilton. Sopel will replace Spacek on D. But this still leaves us with 7 active D in Subban, Gill, Wisniewski, Hamrlik, Mara, Weber and Sopel. Does this mean a Weber and Kostitsyn package is being put together soon?

  231. Say Ash says:

    Kovalev has won a cup. Should have gotten him, I guess?

  232. fun police says:

    never hurts to bring in a guy who’s won the cup.  only adds to character when a guy knows how to win.  i like this move.

  233. zaq007 says:

    I’m never one to complain about reffing but I won’t disagree with you there

  234. Laramy87 says:

    Heres something i learned while watching leafs habs game in the first ten minutes.

    You can tackle a player and no penalty, but if you lift a sick you get two mins. The refs get an F in the first 10 mins of the game

  235. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Who’s the rookie? Who’s the 2nd rate dman?

    You silly

  236. Habfan4lfe says:

    Wow talk about a garbage trade. Second rate defenceman and a rookie with next to no positives. Good job PG!! Yet Gomez still dances around on the ice contributing jack. We got a tree on defence whos gotten burned so many times I literally just close my eyes whenever he gets the puck. We got a 5mil forward,Pleky who like the year before has gone stale.

  237. Caper says:

    Easy Guy! Still pi–ed from Lemaire pushing you out.

  238. samTHEman says:

    return to your mother’s womb immediately

  239. Strabo says:

    The second one atdhenet.tv

     

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  240. fbkj says:

    why would nashville trade weber for andre and few high draft pics?

    would you do that trade if you were nashville?

  241. HabFanSince72 says:

    Orr is out long-term with a concussion sustained during a fight.

    Live by the sword …

     

  242. Former Jets Fan says:

    The strong core of young talent we have – a low first-rounder from a draft year all 30 teams participated in the lottery (after the Habs finished 9th in the East)), a late-teens first rounder and a second-rounder.  Mediocre scouting, development and long-term planning breed more mediocrity. 

    You want the Habs to draft top talent, but you’re also lamenting the loss of “small assets”.  I see nothing wrong with solidifying the roster in advance of the playoffs at the cost of later-round picks or Bulldogs who play a position which five other Canadiens already play.  Sopel in all likelihood isn’t the difference between the Cup and an early exit, but it doesn’t necessarily have to be Cup-or-bust.  Winning one round, or two, or three IS invaluable experience; the team will learn from and be motivated by it.  If the right moves are made, this team’s window should start to open when the youngest of your ‘core’ have a couple more seasons of development. 

  243. ooder says:

    price for halak and 13 first round picks

    ——————

    GWG = game winning gionta!

  244. HabFanSince72 says:

    I quoted from it elsewhere. It’s really hard to see the point of it. Some of it is cringeworthy. The rest is  dull beyond belief.

     

  245. Brown_Hab_Fan says:

    I think we could use another head coach lol

  246. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    we don’t have anyone that can fight ORR….so don’t even go there… Moen and White are great gritty players for us that i hope we keep for a long time, but we have NO heavy weight fighter at this time.

  247. BJT says:

    Ok, I guess that makes sense about Cammy; 25 isn’t THAT young, I guess.

    And yeah that’s a very interesting point. Wasn’t Ovie in that boat too? As well as Malkin?

    And it’s funny, you’d think people would learn from that: look at those examples, and now as of late even on the Habs there’s Patches, Subban, and I think now you can say Price as well that all spent time down there and it has reflected well on their careers so far.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  248. Will Longlade says:

    Yes, and other people need English comprehension classes.

  249. samTHEman says:

    Price isn’t playing? Maybe PG is mustering up some sort of trade…

  250. BJT says:

    So wait, wait… lemme see if I get this:

    Mediocrity: something like Scott Gomez?

    Mediocracy: maybe, I dunno, the Canadian Government?

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  251. observer says:

    spacek is signed for next year. gill, markov, hamrlick, mara, wizniewski, sopel all are free agents. gorges rfa.

  252. RetroMikey says:

    Chat with me after the season, then you will apologize to me.

    I repeat, this team of ours will not go far in the playoffs if we do make it.

    We need to get bigger up front and  on the D, not obtain older players past their prime IMO.

    The team does this every year, trade for a player past his prime like a Dackell, Lindsay, McKay,etc..  for short term results in hopes we can make a run in the playoffs past the 1st round.

    Sopel will not be around after the season to be resigned.

    If I were Gauthier. I would have put an offer for Shea Weber and ship Andre to be with his brother, along with Weber and some high draft picks, now there’s a DMan you want!

    Did we really address our issues?  No, a gamble by Pierre hoping he made the right decision in hopes of signing Sopel in the off season.

    We must have the oldest D on record in the NHL and the shortest team up front as well.

    Is this a record?

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  253. BJT says:

    So not only did the yotes put him on waivers, but he got all the way to  calgary before he was picked up; I believe calgary was doing well that year, too. Not trying to be negative, still love the trade, but you gotta ask why he was passed over so many times.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  254. Chris says:

    By that age, Cammalleri had already well-established himself.  He was coming off an 80 point season. 

    One thing that often goes under-appreciated is the effect of the lockout on the calibre of the NHL talent from around that time period.  Instead of rushing guys drafted in 2003 and 2004, the lockout ensured that many of them had a full season in the AHL to hone their crafts.  Players like Cammalleri, Jason Spezza, Eric Staal, Dustin Brown, Mikko Koivu, Brad Boyes, Joni Pitkanen, Patrick Sharp Patrice Bergeron, etc. all got to spend a year in the AHL to learn while playing heavy minutes against players of similar levels, an opportunity that many of today’s players aren’t afforded. 

  255. fbkj says:

    same question went through my mind

  256. HabFanSince72 says:

    The flaw in your argument is that you picked three players who were late bloomers (hadn’t played a full season yet at age 25.

    You could really use this comparison to make any 25 year old look good.

    That Martin St.Louis had only scored 4 NHL goals by age 25 doesn’t tell you anything about any other 25 year old.

     

     

  257. BJT says:

    Really? Wow, he didn’t play there for very long then..

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  258. WindsorHab-10 says:

    How do you feel about Auld starting? Price only sht them out their last 2 visits. What’s JM thinking?

  259. fbkj says:

    no he didnt, and to correct myself he wasnt a ufa he was claimed by calgary that summer (yotes put him on waivers)

  260. observer says:

    he was a decent player for the rangers. i think we’ll see him here soon?

  261. fbkj says:

    yes, shutting down copywritten broadcast piracy and shutting down the internet is totally the same thing

     

  262. observer says:

    ice- homeland security seized the other one. just a week ago obama was knocking mubarak for closing the internet in egypt!

  263. observer says:

    not on cbc tonight

  264. bostonantifan says:

    I’m not familiar with Sopel, but I hope you’re right about toughness.  The problem is the Habs had the toughness and traded him to Colorado. 

    One other point, why do they keep getting defensemen?  This team can’t score goals!  They need goal-scorers, not d-men.  The ones they have are doing fine.

  265. observer says:

    looks like a throw in to not weaken the hamilton team as they also want fans to keep coming. i still think gauthier should make a move for a big forward who can score!  in the next 4 days. a loss tonight might get him to do it?

  266. Bill J says:

    WHAT ????!?!?!?!?!  O’B was tough ? 

    Sorry your avatar seems to imply you where/are a big fan, but Sopel > O’B on the toughness scale.

  267. BJT says:

    Wow, thank you for this; an eye opener for sure. I’d like to see Cammy’s stats for this, actually; would probably be similar. On that note, I wonder; didn’t cammy and dawes player together in Cgy?

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  268. ooder says:

    o’byrne was big.. not tough

    ——————

    GWG = game winning gionta!

  269. fbkj says:

    no dawes signed with calgary as a UFA same summer cammi signed with us

  270. Duracell3 says:

    atdhe.me

    vodkasports.com

    http://livetv.ru/en

     

    Should be on the cbc site as well I would think.

  271. fbkj says:

    wouldnt mind

     

  272. ooder says:

    give ur head a shake… Gauthier panicked???

    u kidding me..

    he gave up maxwell and a fourth… oh nooooooooo!!!!

    and how do you know sopel is past his prime?

    still an elite shot blocker and PK guy.. give it a rest RM

    ——————

    GWG = game winning gionta!

  273. Chris says:

    Because I had too much time on my hands (I do love reading week!):

    Here are the career numbers for Nigel Dawes and three current NHL players at the start of the season when they were 25 years old:

    PLAYER A

    • NHL:  199 GP, 39 G, 73 PTS, 43 PIM
    • AHL:  166 GP, 76 G, 161 PTS, 52 PIM

    PLAYER B

    • NHL:  69 GP, 4 G, 20 PTS, 32 PIM
    • AHL:  95 GP, 58 G, 114 PTS, 64 PIM

    PLAYER C

    • NHL:  13 GP, 0 G, 1 PTS, 0 PIM
    • AHL:  132 GP, 42 G, 114 PTS, 106 PIM

    PLAYER D

    • NHL:  22 GP, 5 G, 9 PTS, 4 PIM
    • AHL:  135 GP, 53 G, 113 PTS, 52 PIM

    The others are, in no particular order:  Matt Moulson, Martin St. Louis and Rich Peverley.

    Can you guess who is who from those numbers?  :)

    I’m not saying that Dawes is the next Martin St. Louis…in fact, I really doubt that he could become that.  That being stated, I am a little amazed at how quickly people write off some guys in the league.  Guys aren’t always bad players, they are sometimes in a bad fit.  Dawes is speedy enough that he could fit into Martin’s system relatively well if he improves his defensive positioning.

    (Oh, and the asweres, if you care, are…  A = Dawes, B = St. Louis, C = Peverley and D = Moulson.)

  274. GrimJim says:

    So you have pictures of Tambellini with the goat in the square ;-)

  275. oshawahabsfan says:

    What world do you live in where a guy that’s 200 pounds is a smurf. A guy his height with that build can be very hard to knock off the puck. Not to mention he’s put up decent numbers in the NHL already, and is outscoring Maxwell in the AHL, I fail to see a downside. He’s from Western Canada, played for Team Canada, he’s got the right pedigree

  276. habsfansince91 says:

    there’s also atdhenet.tv

  277. The Cat says:

    Youre kidding me? Montreal, a classy organization that takes care of players in their time of need?!! Detroit maybe but not Montreal.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  278. BJT says:

    Wouldn’t mind??? No kidding!

    Haha but seriously I think that next year that defense would be a stanley cup contender quality defense if they all had an average season, assuming Subban’s development continues. Although that still leaves you with a 2nd pp defense pairing that would have either mara or gorges on it, which sucks, unless you have maybe cammy playing the point, or AK (if he’s still here).

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  279. saf says:

    If Florida trully is shedding long-term contracts what do ou think of trading for Booth (they signed to a 6-year contract in July 2009 I think with an annual cap hit of 4.25 million and a salary of 4.5 million per year for the next 3 years, then 4.75 million)?

    Send them Kostitsyn (who I think has a similar talent level but is an RFA this July so Florida has options there) and either a series of draft picks, or someone like Weber or Desharnais.  I like both of those youngsters but can’t see Florida trading Booth straight up for a similar level player and certainly not in a 1-to-1 deal.  I’d figure they would want some youth/draft picks.

    Keeping Kostitsyn next year would likley entail a similar cap hit in the range of 4 million I would guess.

  280. ooder says:

    not my words… this was just a convo i had with ian on here a while back…

    its just weird because it seems mr. cobb has completly changed his tune in regards to the markov situation

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    GWG = game winning gionta!

  281. bostonantifan says:

    FYI: it’s mediocrity, not mediocracy.

  282. Bill J says:

    Which one is the legit one ???

    Because the one you mention says to not use ANY other version of atdhe….

     

  283. The Cat says:

    Well said.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  284. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    for short term results it is an EXCELLENT trade… SOPEL brings SOURAYS toughness and respect back to our sweater, and that means nothing? the guy is a beast!!… we need to welcome anyone with some cahones… switch SOPEL with SPACEK during the Boston Masacre…. see what i’m talking about…

  285. newbrunswick troy says:

    I agree … Sopel is way too tall and gritty for Habs too resign him,  they will probly try to see if Desharnais has a younger brother !!!

  286. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Or conversely – An overpriced, underperforming RFA, the rights to two players who likely will never play in the NHL and a mid round 1st for one of the best RWs in the game.

    What if Edm threw in a 3rd?

    (of course my suggestion was completely in jest. Would love Hemsky though)

  287. BJT says:

    you’re not keeping em all, this is assuming you let spatch go and trade hamrlik. If you wish, put Mara in Gill’s spot and say we didn’t sign gill. Besides, then we can call Markov & Mara ‘M&M’ or something.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  288. puck face says:

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  289. newbrunswick troy says:

    or maybe Sopoliscious

  290. fbkj says:

    well assuming you are talking about next seasons d core with the inclusion of markov, thats a lot of free agents to sign, yes im aware that we need to sign some regardless, not sure if we can keep em all

  291. ooder says:

    ian this does not sound like you at all…

    what’s up man… you usually post about the classiness of the canadiens organization and how they take care of their players in thier times of need…

    markov has given it all to this team.. he is a class act who brings a whole new dimension to the team…

    now i am ready to accept the fact that markov post knee surgery is not the same markov..

    however… i think markov is aware of that as well… a player of his caliber knows his limitations and i would gladly take him in with open arms… and hopefully the habs brass sees the same way as i do…

    think about this d corp

    the veterans:

    markov, spacek, gill (maybe)

    young guys:

    subban webber

    young veteran:

    gorges

    maybe:

    Wiz, Emeling (for that piece of nasty)

     

    ——————

    GWG = game winning gionta!

  292. RetroMikey says:

    We get another over the hill DMan in Brent Sopel who is past his prime,

    Why did we not go after him years ago when he  was in his prime in Vancouver?

    And picking up another smurf in Dawes.

    Gauthier panicked just as Bobby did and gambled these 2 will help us in the playoffs, a terrible trade for short term results.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  293. Bill J says:

    Nah – I will not bother “talking to you” then…

    I will remind you, that NOT LONG ago you said similar things about Halak being traded and Price being supported by the Habs.

    Your freaking signature serves as a reminder to this very position you took.

    How’s that prediction working out Mighty Kreskin ?

  294. BJT says:

    For example:

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  295. GrimJim says:

    Steve Tambellini has pictures of you performing unspeakable acts with a goat in Nathan Philips square? A former first rounder, the best goalie in the KHL, a first round pick and a mature prospect rumoured to have the potential to be a top-2 shut-down d-man for one asset not named Crosby or Datsyuk?

    I don’t think that trade gets made…

  296. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    hmmm, do you actually know anything about the NHL as a league and hockey in general? I am a fan of Gauthier, but if he were to do this I would like him to be fired immediately.

    I say this while still hoping you are kidding. If we get JF Jacques and a 4th or 5th rd pick back as well, I am on board. Throw in Pyatt, move us up to a third or fourth

  297. newbrunswick troy says:

    ya but Wiess,s salary is like 4-5 mil less than Gomer?????thats tuff to adjust unless the Habs take on a dead weight salary of Florida,s

  298. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Florida is dumping all long term contracts. Take a look at their capgeek page. They’re clearly keeping salaries as short term as possible – if they move Weiss, the only players they have signed beyond next season are Booth and Olesz. Expect to be hearing about them as the next team in financial trouble and likely to move.

    Safe to say that Gomez is not part of their plans :D

     

  299. gumper says:

    When he scores or fights….Soporific!

  300. ABHabsfan says:

    That makes a really short stint for Mara

  301. SeriousFan09 says:

    It’s like you’re seeing into the future!

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  302. samTHEman says:
    Darren Dreger just tweeted this:
     

    Florida needs a centre, so if Weiss is moved, the Panthers asking price will include a centre as part of the return.
    ARE YOU THINKING WHAT IM THINKING????????????????????????????
    PS: FORNICATE THIS STUPID LOTTOMAX ADD
  303. fbkj says:

    i think PG is busy atm

  304. Trisomy 21 says:

    I have faith that Markov will want to stay in MTL but the fact that he won’t be coming back this season and PG isn’t talking contracts with him, worries me. It’s not like it will distract Markov from playing well….

     

    Ball is in the Brass’s corner I believe, I can very well see it being left like that until July 1.

  305. Ian Cobb says:

    Which is it.? Is Sopel in the line up tonight?? Some reports say yes and some say no.!!??

  306. BJT says:

    Markov-Gorges

    Subban-Gill

    Wiz-Sopel

     

    WOW. I LIKE.

     

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  307. sergim26 says:

    They are both right hand shots but maybe Sopel has played on the left side…

  308. samTHEman says:

    Hamrlik – Weber

    Gill – Subban

    Sopel – Wiz

     

    Sobel and Gill stay-at-home defencemen in order for Subban and Wiz to pinch, I like it…

  309. The Cat says:

    I dont come cheap mister!

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  310. Trisomy 21 says:

    Markov’s been injured all year…

  311. CanadienBoy says:

    By the time we get to the dead line we should be down to coaches, Martin for Boucher  thrown in Pearn and keep Muller

  312. punkster says:

    Haven’t seen it here yet so I’m throwing it out there for your review:

    Soapy.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  313. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    what an EXCELLENT move by PG….. SOPEL brings GRIT, he is a pure NAG player… come to think of it, PG has been consistent in his moves to bring in more gritty players, keep it up PG, soon we will reach that 80:20 ratio of success… 80%Grit+20%Finesse=CUP

    1:The N.A.G.S. (North American Grit Speed) Youth Movement will bring us respect. 2: 02/09/11 never forget the masacre 3. ..call up WHITE/SHULTZ/HENRY/PAX now.

  314. Duracell3 says:

    As long as he plays alright in the playoffs I can deal with the rest.

  315. gumper says:

    Did Wiz and Sopel play together in Chicago? Could they become a pairing?

  316. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    There are teams that tank every year and never move forward (NYI) and there are teams that finish at or near top of the standings and compete for a Cup every year and do very well drafting late in the 1st round (Detroit) and beyond.

    Montreal was one series away from competing for the Cup last year. Tweaking the roster slightly to shore up a banged up D with more experience is the right call. This was Maxwell’s last year in the AHL from a waiver perspective and he would have been worthless as an asset by next Tuesday. Good low cost move by PG once again.

    BTW, the Habs are building through the draft. The cupboard is not bare – check out Hockey’s Future or read SeriousFan09’s weekly prospect update (Habs Future) here on HIO to get a perspective. Having the ability to move Maxwell with no significant hit to the org depth speaks well.

    Last point – having 8 or 9 (Spacek) available Dman has PG dealing from a position of strenght over the next several days if one believes there may be another move to support the top six forwards..

  317. Chris says:

    I’m tempted to agree with you. 

    Only fly in the ointment will be how much of a pay-cut are we talking?  Does he take a one-year deal to prove he can stay healthy, a longer-term contract at lower coin, or does he walk off to the highest bidder (somebody will offer him a decent contract with both term and $$$)?

  318. OneTimer says:

    I hope you’re right fbkj, we could have (one of?) the sickest blueline corps in the NHL when healthy next year

  319. fbkj says:

    markov signed in montreal last time when he knew he could have gotten more on the market, im just gonna pin my faith on his attitude and behaviour that points to him wanting to stay with the habs

  320. rob_c says:

    LOVE this move. How can you not. Forget about Dawes… but Sopel being a shotblocker, good on PKs is EXACTLY what this team needs for their style of play. If 2 years ago you would of told me Maxwell would be passed by little DD on the depth chart I would of laughed in your face. Great trade by PG. Now lol like I seen someone write on another blog. 

    “We’ll trade Gomez for free.. plus you get a free cat”

     

    DO IT PG!

  321. Will Longlade says:

    I don’t know why this trade is eliciting such a negative reaction from some quarters. In a few months time, everyone will be comparing this deal with the Dominic Moore trade PG made last year. The Habs have never aspired to load up for a short-term run at the cup. They’re positioning the team to be competitive in the post season this year (but we know they have the ability to do even better than that), and among the league’s top squads for the next few years. I’m fine with that. The team has added more grit and depth at D. Sopel has lots of playoff experience and is a good teammate.    

  322. fbkj says:

    markov has a relationship with the team and the city

    i see him resigning, hes aware of his knee… and he knows he wont command the same contract this time

  323. samTHEman says:

    AK-Plek-Cam

    Pac-Gomez-Gio

    Pouliot-Desharnais-Eller

    Moen-Halpern-White

     

    Although these seem like logical lines, there come times when they really don’t work and so JM has to split them up to come up with balanced scoring, which he does effectively (except when he puts Moen on the top 6). I love Moen, i think he’s a great asset to the team (although he can be better), great shot blocker, role-player, as was seen against Vancouver. He was a beast on the PK

     

    Pyatt, Darche (let him rest that groin injury that’s been bothering him so he’ll be ready to go come playoffs time)

     

  324. PureGuava says:

    Don’t we have a Hershey affiliate that we can ‘Loan’ Gomez to?..

  325. newbrunswick troy says:

    this trade i am ok with.its a stop gap measure for sur…but as it stands now this team will finnish the year without one 30 goal scoarer…..wow that awfull

    Nobody is going to take Gomer this year or next and this team refuses to find a 30 plus scoarer who is over 6ft …i only hope that all the scouting changes this year finally start to pay dividents..beacause i cant stand to hear these anecdotes of how the habs took Maxwell way before Lucic    etc etc etc

  326. Ian Cobb says:

    Sopel is J. Martins kind of player, stay at home D, solid around his own net and reads the ice well. Less goals against to match our goals for.

    Markov will sign elsewhere for money that we won’t pay to him for his damaged knees.

  327. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Nice trade.

    Dawes (who has NHL experience) for Maxwell (who has fallen pretty far down our depth chart) = Win for us.

    Sopel (rugged D man with tons of playoff experience) for a 4th = Huge win for us.

     

    These kinds of trades, and not the flashy big ticket ones, are usually the kind that make a significant impact during the playoffs.

  328. gumper says:

    Response seems generally positive to me.

  329. HardHabits says:

    My prediction. Sopel will play great for the Habs in the play-offs. Every-one will love him but he wont be resigned. The Habs will then pick up another defenseman over the summer that everyone thinks is worthless but who will in fact be better and younger and cheaper than Sopel. Tony will complain about the lost 4th rounder.

  330. The Cat says:

    Yeah I was gonna say…People need trolls so it seems.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  331. fbkj says:

    whats sad is thats EXACTLY what will happen

  332. The Cat says:

    Thats manly!

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  333. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Last move? Hemsky for AK, the rights to Yemelin, Ramo and a 1st.

     

     

  334. fbkj says:

    yeehaw, found a pic on my rangers fan/friends fb, this was taken by lloyd dawes, nigels father, who was sitting behind us

    http://twitpic.com/43d6zk

    he started promising her tickets to the garden and stuff, what a playa, trying to score based on your sons name ^_^

  335. fbkj says:

    few problems with this lineup

  336. shiram says:

    anyone with a link to watch the game online? overtime at work

  337. samTHEman says:

    “Defense first brings you offense” – Sopel

    He’s going to fit perfectly in JM’s system and will be good for the locker-room and morale. Kinda like Gill.

    Is he strong/Physical? Can he fight?

  338. BJT says:

    wow.

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  339. adam76 says:

    Legit?  They are both against the law.

  340. S_Dot says:

    Look, I like the move we made today, with our D as depleted as it was, we needed depth and Sopel will bring that experience, shot blocking ability and PK minute eating that we desperately need to ease our others but you have to wonder what direction our franchise is going in. 

    Mediocracy breeds mediocracy and although we remain “contenders” for the Cup, we will always end up around 5-8th in the conference because of where we finish in the standings every year. Then, drafting 12-15+ in the draft it is not letting us net top talent, as in Top 4 defenseman or 30+ goal scorers, we are in a vicious cycle.

    In the new NHL teams build through the draft, then use their excess assets to build around a solid core and add parts through free agency, just look at the standings, teams in the top 4 of each conference have built through the draft. Our cupboard is bare, and although we have a very very strong core of young talent (Price, Subban and MaxPac) I don’t see it being strong enough to carry our team to a title, especially with aging pieces (Gio, Gomez, Spacek) on this roster for at least another year. 

    Pleks, Cammy, Gorges all have to be accountable, but you have to wonder what we are doing here…as we give up more pieces (albeit small assets) for another rental player that probably won’t fit into the plans come next year

     

  341. Chris says:

    The European players have a built-in advantage/disadvantage in that they can play professionally much younger than Canadian players. 

    Ovechkin and Malkin had already seeing some time in the highest Russian league, albeit spotty, when they were 18.  Adam Larsson has been playing against professionals in the Swedish Elite League as a 17 year old, as did Victor Hedman before him.  So they are probably seeing a higher calibre of player (in terms of strength, speed and experience) than players in Canada’s junior system at a younger age.  Players from the CHL can’t play in the AHL until they turn 20, meaning it is the NHL or European leagues if they want to play professionally for the first couple of years after being drafted.

  342. samTHEman says:

    I have a STRONG feeling tonight will be filled with fights and scrambles. The Leafs are going to take runs at PK, just like every other NHL team (at the exception of a few classy ones) but we won’t have it. They have Orr. I wonder who’ll fight him besides Moen who probably can’t match up to him. White!!! (Kid has balls!!!)

  343. Bill J says:

    I used to somewhat respect you – now all I see in your posts is Tony242 stamped all over it.

    Not to mention, as indicated by EVERYONE who has replied to you so far…. YOU ARE OUT TO LUNCH in your opinion.

     

  344. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    i was 100% against the OBRYNE trade, but that is history…. all i’m saying is SOPEL instantly becomes our biggest toughest most veteran defenseman when all those elements are combined, SIZE/TOUGHNESS/VETERAN. Gill may be taller but not tougher, Hamr may be older but not more experienced… its a good move for an element we could use, he brings respect that we haven’t had since SOURAY.

  345. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    There are 30 – 40 responses to this on HIO today. The most common is that Price can’t play every game.

  346. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Not attacking as many on here do, buttt…. who did we trade Spacek to in the off-season? What did we get for him? who did we trade Weber to? What did we get for him?

    Who are the 7th and 8th Dmen? We will definitely need 7 as all teams do and should probably have 8 available with Markov and Gorge’s knees.

    Otherwise, yes, I like the player combos.

  347. observer says:

    he said freedom of the internet is a must and at the same time the democrats introduced a bill for the government to control the internet and to trace every site anyone visits! you cant have it both ways! dems already want talk radio controlled. maybe that and other reasons are why they took that beating last november which will be repeated in 2012.

  348. fbkj says:

    freedom of the internet does not mean theft

    it means access to information and bandwidth

    for someone caught up in the whole left/right diatribe you didnt put much thought into this did you?

    stealing content is not very conservative on any level

    as for controlling talk radio, im a sirius kinda guy

    stern rules, bababooey

  349. Chris says:

    The fact that I picked three late bloomers was exactly my point.  The issue with Dawes is that he has already played 200 NHL games and people are therefore quick to write him off as a bust.  Yet there is nothing saying that Dawes might not be a late bloomer himself.  I’m not saying he will become a scoring winger, but I do disagree with any assertions that he can’t contribute as a third or fourth line player.  And I disagree that you could use this as a modified Galileo Gambit (Player X hasn’t done anything at age 25, but neither did Martin St. Louis and he is a superstar, so Player X will be a superstar too!)…Dawes has proven in the AHL that he is a point-per-game player at that level.  Even in the AHL, that is not such a common feat.

    He has already proven in his career that he can contribute as a third or fourth line role player, and he remains young.  I used Martin St. Louis as an example because his career really didn’t take off in a meaningful way until 2002-03.  Going into that season as a 27 year old, he had already played 200 NHL games and had compiled 38 goals and 95 points.  He was viewed as an undersized checker that was destined to be a journeyman player.  Yet somewhere along the way, he blossomed into one of the league’s elite offensive players.

    Through 208 games, Nigel Dawes’ numbers are not so far off those of St. Louis:  39 goals and 84 points.  Nobody could have predicted what St. Louis would become…he found the right fit at the right time.  I feel pretty safe in saying Dawes will never match St. Louis’ progress, as the odds are pretty heavily stacked against him.  The majority of players don’t suddenly kick it up a gear when they are 27.  But a guy whose early career numbers correspond to an average of 15 goals and 33 points per 82 games can be a contributor to the Habs, who can use all the scoring they can get. 

    Nigel Dawes has a much better chance of being another Martin St. Pierre than another Martin St. Louis:  a guy with good AHL numbers that struggles to make an impact in the NHL.  But that shouldn’t preclude the Habs from giving him a shot…he can’t be any more useless offensively than guys like Moen, Pyatt or even Eller for that matter.

  350. SHUTTemDOWN says:

    If I were you…I wouldn’t drop the BENGAY.

    “The sh*t is CHESS!NOT CHECKERS.” Denzel W.(Training Day)

  351. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I’ve always liked Dawes, always liked Boyd too :)

  352. mrhabby says:

    maxwell is so far down the chart ya cannot even see him..

  353. 24moreCups says:

    That wouldn’t be a bad idea

  354. showey47 says:

    Saw that also,would be well worth it imo. I would be very surprised if we get the chance to claim him. I say he ends up in ottawa or the islanders.

  355. The Cat says:

    Id pick him up. Hes moved around but Im convinced hes a good player.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  356. BJT says:

    DO WANT

    DO WANT

     

    Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy

  357. shiram says:

    Pouliot is from Ontario

  358. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Not to split hairs but Pouliot is from Alfred, Ont. Sad, I know…

  359. samTHEman says:

    Steve Bernier on waivers. Big dude that can score. Pouliot-Desharnais-Bernier could be a nice line! The Quebecer line

  360. Duracell3 says:

    Wouldnt be so bad, I doubt it though.

  361. Former Jets Fan says:

    I’m no scout, but I would say a good comparable for Bernier’s hands would be Travis Moen.

  362. ClaytonM says:

    If they want some cancer in the dressing room I’ll buy them a pack of smokes instead.

  363. ClaytonM says:

    What will you do if he starts spellchecking?

  364. ClaytonM says:

    and Gomez….just saying….

  365. wall2bay says:

    We also traded Laps and OB……it should’ve offset couple of those names above.  Not to mention DD, MaxPac and Weber must be near the minimum.

     

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  366. notbigbird says:

    A guy could be 5′ 9″ and weight 600 lbs, but people here would still get upset with his size.

  367. HabFarmer says:

    A decade’s worth of hair farmer metal bands and hockey players cannot be wrong about the power of the poodle head.

     A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  368. shiram says:

    We are really missing a player with a mullet… look at what it did for Jagr!

  369. HabFarmer says:

    Chances are the hair chromosomes and the beard chromosomes will get spliced and we’ll get Ron Duguay.  Although that might not be a bad thing either……. .

     A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  370. Storm Man says:

    I will close my account if Penner comes here… Will you do the same when he does not?

  371. Storm Man says:

    Where did you go to school for math? The team has 1.8 Mil in cap space as of today.

  372. Natrous says:

    He hasn’t been on yet, for those of you just reading this – sounds like he’s on in the next few minutes…

  373. habsfan0 says:

    Boone still hasn’t been on. Must be out walking his dog.

  374. LA Loyalist says:

    Well, Sopel is a good inexpensive move, a rental and probably a good signing for next year. Like you guys posted, there is no such thing as too much depth on defense.

    If we were planning anything big before Monday Spacek would go on IR, don’t you think, to free cap space?

    As for another 5’9 guy? Aside from the fact he’s from Winnipeg, which is good for at least another inch, I am not impressed. Cannon fodder for Hamilton. I guess they have to field a minimum number of players.

    We will stagger into the playoffs and expect to win a few games 1-0, 2-1. Doesn’t even matter who we play, we can’t score.

     

  375. ManApart says:

    Another hockey player junkie ala Elisha Cuthbert.

  376. Rainrocket16 says:

    Sopel will definetly help out on D, hope he is a nice fit in MTL..Dawes may never play up this season so…whatever. Good trade. Any one think there will be more or thats it? Thought we might want a forward of good caliber.

  377. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Komisarek should be playing pond hockey. He plays like a lil’ scaredy-cat ever since Lucic took away his manhood.

  378. LA Loyalist says:

    AK and someone else, not Weber. 

    But yeah, I’d love Penner here. Show the midgets how it’s done.

  379. hardhabittobreak says:

    Damn … wanted to see Kovalev back (for the rest of this season) and it seems he would have been cheap.

  380. RedLight says:

    Love the deal. Sopel will lighten PK’s shorthanded load and makes for a far, far better depth defenceman than Picard/Mara/Nash/whomever.

    Atlanta is not an easy team on which to hold down a positive +/-, and our shotblocking has suffered mightily with the recent injuries. Just hope we don’t give Sopel any PP time… I remember when he played here in Vancouver, his slapper was Jiri Slegr-esque. Even those in the upper deck weren’t safe.

    In my eyes it’s a fourth rounder for him, since both Maxwell and Dawes seem destined to spend their careers playing junior varsity. I think the jury remains out on Gauthier’s ‘larger’ moves, but he continues to prove himself a master of tinkering. Well done.

  381. habsruleworld says:

    AGreed, Although also believe Dawes is a significant upgrade to Pyatt

  382. SeriousFan09 says:

    Or they’ll move Picard because he’s an unreliable 7th D, play Sopel and leave Mara as the depth man.

    Penner IMO is the latest version of “Frolov to Montreal”

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  383. ooder says:

    so because a young defense men made a mistake they will ship him out??

    wow at this rate guys like schenn and komisarek would be playing pond hockey

    ——————

    GWG = game winning gionta!

  384. shiram says:

    Can we combine them, like putting them in those teleporters from The Fly, to get last year’s Scott Hartnell?

  385. rogieshan says:

    Seriously, Dawes plays big for his size and has much more of a scoring touch than your typical fourth liner.

  386. fbkj says:

    tx for the heads up dude

  387. F Bomb says:

    Re Spachek

    Has not been announced but it looks like he will miss the remainder of the season and most likely the playoffs.  It would be nice to have him back.  His pay is inflated by 25% but he has done what has been asked of him for the last 2 yrs.

  388. habsfan0 says:

    Dawes is 5’9″. On the Habs, that makes him a giant.

  389. Rudy says:

    If Sopel come to the Habs and Dawes goes to Hamilton, do we need to send someone else down for roster reasons? Assuming Spacek isn’t on IR?

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  390. shiram says:

    Good attitude I guess?

  391. LNev says:

    Boullion-esque.

  392. Ron says:

    I like Sopel’s size and mobility. Very good pick up at next to nothing. Dawes is probably going to Hamilton but can be a good call up. He is not scared to go to the net or corners and at 5’9 and 200 lbs makes Pyatt abit of a press box canidate. Over all a good day at the trade table for PG.

  393. otter649 says:

    For those people who notice & make comments about Jacques Martin taking/writing notes after certain plays etc – Watch the Toronto bench tonight Ron Wilson gets his assistant coach Keith Acton to take his notes etc (maybe Acton’s penmanship is better than Wilson’s)…………

  394. rlinhares9 says:

    As per Brent Sopel’s official Twitter account, @BrentSopel:

    “Off to Montreal – let the games begin!!”

  395. darcy1 says:

    thanks for the heads up

    ——————-
    ”If you’ve only got one day to live, come see the Toronto Maple Leafs. It’ll seem like forever. ” Pat Foley (Blackhawks broadcaster)

  396. shiram says:

    “It’s true that we have a lot of d-men now, but you can’t have enough of them.”

    At the rate we go through them, we can use a few spares!

  397. HabFarmer says:

    First of all, the fact that Nigel is from Winnipeg is a definite plus for this cowboy, and Sopel totally rocks the hockey hair.  We now have his hair to go with Mara’s beard.  We are UNBEATABLE!

     

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  398. wild flower says:

    Dawes, Boyd…move the Bulldogs to Winnipeg

  399. Mats Naslund says:

    I would welcome Penner. Not the most consistent but good offensively. Still, Edmonton isn’t going to give him away. They are looking to rip someone off. Its going to cost at least a 1st + a young roster player (ala Eller or Weber) IMO.

  400. Jordio-oh says:

    Boone’s on the Fan 590 to talk to Bob McCown in about 5 minutes for those interested. Maybe he discusses the new deal.

    http://www.fan590.com/

  401. darcy1 says:

    How do you get that number?

    ——————-
    ”If you’ve only got one day to live, come see the Toronto Maple Leafs. It’ll seem like forever. ” Pat Foley (Blackhawks broadcaster)

  402. Shiloh says:

    I like the acquisition(s). Sopel is an experienced defenceman who would be a good partner for lots of our young guys. We sure have a pile of right-handed shots back there now – Wiz, Weber, PK and Sopel. I don’t want to see Weber moved – he’s coming along – most defencemen take awhile to come into their own.

    It’s true that we have a lot of d-men now, but you can’t have enough of them.

    If we go longer than Hamilton this year we can bring up some guys with some snot in their games – Boyd and now dawes – could be a nice injection of energy in a long playoff run.

  403. shootdapuck says:

    His missus is another Hollywood wannbe actress; from Outremont.

     

    She is also ex Mrs. Richard Zednick for another Montreal connection.

     

     

    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  404. RedLight says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I’d absolutely love to be proven wrong there. He had a decent season with the Rangers a year or two ago, from what I remember, which is more than can be said of Maxwell. I haven’t seen as many Dogs games as I’d like this year, but from our SeriousFan updates it seems that Maxwell simply ran out of chances.

  405. oshawahabsfan says:

    Who cares if he can fight or not, we’d be trading for his hands to put the puck in the net, and to park his big arse in front of the net haha

  406. ManApart says:

    Even if he’s done, that still leaves 8 defensemen. I just don’t see them carrying 8. The whole season I’ve had a feeling the Habs were going to aquire Penner. I could be wrong, but I see something like AK-Weber-Pyatt for Penner and J.F. Jaques

  407. andrewberkshire says:

    Weber isn’t going to be traded because of one mistake when he’s been the most consistent defender at even strength since the new year. The kid has made massive progress and is only going to get better.

  408. ABHabsfan says:

    I like the idea of getting Penner, always have. I watched him play last night and I don’t hink he is as lazy as people think. He got a nice hustle-type goal. Really good hands for a big man. Don’t sell the farm for him though

  409. JIMVINNY says:

    oops.  Not so important that I needed to say it twice.

  410. habsruleworld says:

    Yes! 

    I split my time in Edmonton but mostly now in Calgary, and get to see alot of the Oilers and Flames

    the only knock against Penner, is many say he is not tough enough on the fighting side etc.

    Although when battling for puck or position, no question he is very tough.

    and he’s got great hands and very durable,

    for sure, make that trade PG!

  411. JIMVINNY says:

    Malkin being out for the season gives them more room than we get for Markov and Spacek combined.

  412. Top Corner says:

    Good trade !!  Sopel likes to block shots….he will be welcome here.  :P   

     

  413. ABHabsfan says:

    A couple years ago Dawes was playing quite well with Calgary. His centre was a fella named Dustin Boyd. Bit of an angle there. They were both sent down eventually but there may be something to build on.

    The Habs now have the shut-down d-men from the last 2 Cup winners. Weber’s “Ole” Tuesday night  instead of blocking the shot may have punched his ticket out of town

  414. Dansolo says:

    Do you work for the Montreal Candiens or something? Why would you think the Habs want to trade Pyatt, Kostistyn and a high draft pick for a top six forward, Penner in particular? Do you have a crystal ball, or do you just pretend you can see the future? I’m confused.

  415. shootdapuck says:

    Especially when Pyatt is thrown into another move!

    Dawes can shoot and actually hit the net! Unlike Pyatt!

     

     

    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  416. andrewberkshire says:

    Sopel effectively replaces Gorges for the PK, which has been struggling since he went down. Dawes replaces Maxwell on a short term basis in Hamilton until players like Leblanc and hopefully Kristo get there next season. This is a pretty solid trade, basically giving away a player who’d lost his opportunity here in Montreal and fallen down the depth chart to about the 8th spot at center alone, maybe even 9th if you covet Engqvist.

  417. Chuck says:

    Yes… HI/O should be fairly entertaining tonight.

  418. Pat8987 says:

    I hear you…Personally I wanted MTL to be sellers this year…LOL so much for that (I think Canadiens DO have the team to win the CUP next year….)

     

     

  419. shiram says:

    Done done, or done might come back next season?? I want the details of those suspicions!

  420. rlinhares9 says:

    First off, good deal. Our D is complete for the run, so don’t expect any Regher’s or Phillips’. Dawes should be called up asap IMO. A young, gritty guy with a lot of punch…something we could use…something that would gel nicely with Ryan White maybe?

    Aside from that, not sure if this has been discussed (I’m sure it has), but Marinaro claimed on Antichambre yesterday that Penner just married a Montrealer and is very familiar with the city.

    This morning, he said he thinks PG can and should make a push for him, and that it “wouldn’t take too much”.

    Penner has 1 more year after this one, with a $4+ million cap hit. If this deal can be done for AK and a pick or prospect (or Pyatt or Weber as has been discussed), would you do it?

    How do you guys feel about Penner in a Habs uniform?

  421. shootdapuck says:

    Better check again!

    Last 6 home games avg attendance is 12.6K per game.

    Way up since the end of NFL and College football seasons.

     

     

    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  422. BJ says:

    What is the word on Spacek. Has the team come up with a time line on him?

  423. Pat8987 says:

    + 1 my friend…However Dawes is good enough to be on MTL

  424. bobinsask says:

    I like the deal in a half-hearted sort of way but your idea of trade with Edmonton is way too much to give up for Penner.

  425. OneTimer says:

    nice post Mr. Racicot

  426. punkster says:

    Tony/observer is gonna have a conniption.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  427. Pat8987 says:

    FYI – before Mara trade Canadiens had the equivalent of 12mil open in cap space…The now have 8mil (so we can go get Richards and still be under…)

  428. nickster13 says:

    agree, i would have rather a D prospect a la gorges than what we got

  429. mjames says:

    Whether we win or lose tonight it is AK46’s . Also Ak46 is to balame for Markov’s and Gorges injuries which in turn forced us to get rid Maxwell. 

    mjames

  430. SeriousFan09 says:

    Looming suspicions are that Spacek is done.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  431. ManApart says:

    Sopel is a good pick-up for the stretch and playoffs, very comparable to Gorges. More experience and probably a little tougher. Don’t get what the point of Mara was then. Without Spacek the team now has 8 Defenseman. If Spacek returns that’s 9. Somethings got to give. Looks to me like a D another D is going to be traded. Probably Weber.

  432. habsruleworld says:

    EXCELLENT POST ON TSN BOARD RELATED TO BRUINS RAISING TICKET PRICES

     

    LOL!

     

    i still believe that if you want to go see a game, wait for your team to play in phoenix, buy an upper bowl ticket for $15, and then take an empty seat in the lower bowl and watch the game. even after the air fare and accomadations its still cheaper than going to vancouver to watch a game Report this comment!

  433. wall2bay says:

    Don’t we get relief for Markov and Gorges being out for the season???

     

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  434. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yes we do. And also Sopel for Spacek.

     

  435. byrneoNL says:

    What does Montreal currently have an over-abundance of?

    1) Middle aged (old, tired) defenseman

    2) Smurfs – pint sized forwards who scare no one on the forcheck

    What’s PG’s big move? Bring in another mid 30s d-man, and another smurf sized forward.

    Ridiculous.

  436. andrewberkshire says:

    Yes, but we’ve spent it on Wisnwieski, Mara, Sopel, Desharnais, Weber and Pacioretty.

  437. Pat8987 says:

    Coming from a very knowledgeable HOCKEY FAN this deal makes!!! *without sounding cocky* WHY this deal makes sense…(Now again without being demeaning in anyway, I know many of you are “habs fans” well I’m a “habs fan/hockey fan” so I know a little about theses guys (not just their report via “Google or YouTube search”)

    Ok so what we get: In Sopel – A shut-down defense that makes an excellent first pass (think of Gorges with a mean streak). He is not flashy by any means but he is one nasty MOFO. **Our D of 2011 in playoffs will be greater than 2010 (minus Markov)** In Dawes – A skilled forward with small size HOWEVER he has a nasty side (plays with an edge) he is EXTREMELY FAST…

    WHAT this deal means…PG is smart simply put….He is done with our D corpse (and I’m happy with it) Getting Dawes to me means two roster players on forward are on their way out (Dawes can fill the role of Pyatt + Eller and be more effective FYI) …Personally I think PG is looking to move Pyatt + Kostitsyn + High pick to pick up a top 6 forward (I think it’s Penner) What I’m predicting…(If we land Penner – PG won’t be done) This is what our roster WOULD look like if PG gets his way IMO

    Penner – Pleks – Cammi

    Gionta – Gomez – Max

    Pouliot – DD – Chris Neil

    Moen – Halpern – Dawes/White *depending on team we face

     

    Gill – Subban

    Hammer – Wiz

    Mara/Weber – Sopel *depending on team we face

     

    **Sopel will ride more minutes on PK giving Subban a break and fresher legs for PP and 5 on 5…

     

    Mark my words this deal is SOLID

     

  438. SeriousFan09 says:

    Penguins have relief from Malkin being out for the season.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  439. Habs Proud says:

    I like the deal, Sopel brings some size, some grit and a bunch of experience, not Gorges by any means but a similar type of D-man, gives us another solid defenceman to play on the PK perhaps keeping Subban from logging so many minutes. I don’t recall seeing Dawes play much but if I remember he certainly isn’t shy about being in the dirty areas despite his size.

    Not a blockbuster deal but those come at a much higher price, Maxwell has promise too but the Habs can’t keep everyone and still ice a competitive team today.

  440. wall2bay says:

    How is that even after Markov, Gorges and maybe even Spacek are done for the season, we are still up against the cap???

    Meanwhile the Pens add AK27 and his $5mill for nothing???  Not that I wanted him but just can’t figure the math.

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  441. ClaytonM says:

    Just for the fact it would piss off brian birk, I’d like to see penner join the Habs.

  442. observer says:

    he is not in talks with any player about a new deal. gainey says it is the way the habs in 1924 operated dont negotiate during the season. so after everyone bashed the concussed gainey and gauthier took over gauthier said he would negotiate with plek but of course did not offer him a contract he could sign during the season so habs still did it the same way. what gauthier did say last week was he wouldnt even negotiate with gorges a rfa until season is over. so this dinosaur process started before there was free agency continues with this team. ufa d-men – in july- markov, gill, wizniewski, hamrlick, mara, sopel — gorges rfa.

  443. ooder says:

    oh well maybe i misundesrstood your message ian.. my apologies

    just seemed like you did a total 180.. a kind of : lets give up on markov cuz he’s not worth it type attitude…

    doesn’t sound like u

    ——————

    GWG = game winning gionta!

  444. fbkj says:

    this team doesnt have a history of early talks

    one just has to point to pleks last signing

    or the last time markov signed

  445. Ian Cobb says:

    Ooder. I was not very clear about Markov below. I hope he fully recovers and plays for us for many years. But I was thinking that the club must know more now than the public knows, about the situation with Markovs knees.

    It does not sound like Gauthier is in talks with him and I think if he was going to be signed here , they would at least be talking. So I am having my doubts.

  446. Gormdog says:

    A true carry over from the Gainey Era… I can understand how it could be a distraction during the season but… In a case like Gorges for the life of me I can’t understand why they wouldnt try to lock him up now…

  447. shootdapuck says:

    Except when they signed Brisebois to an extension after a hot start.

    Then he went to Europe when rehabbing an injury!

    Must have set the present protocol on not negotiating during the season.

     

     

    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  448. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    I get your point, but I’d rather they see how his rehab comes along a bit before they throw unknown amounts of monies around anyway.

  449. fbkj says:

    actually it wasnt heavilly practiced under either of the savard’s or houle

  450. observer says:

    how can you say “price was minimal”? — he’s been having a pretty darn good season.

  451. alestar says:

    I like it…Sopel plays with grit and the price was minimal. Dawe is a decent utility guy to fill in for injuries.

    Maxwell has been playing himself into the ECHL anyway, so no big loss there.

    It’ll be interesting to see what our defense looks like next year, with all the UFA’s…

     

    XXIV…and counting

  452. twilighthours says:

    I know, Smiler, that was a typo.  He might be Hamilton-bound but I could see him getting called up before the end of the season.

  453. SmartDog says:

    Great stat. Probably the one that matters most.

  454. HabFanSince72 says:

    Sopel was the number one PK d-man during the Hawks cup run with almost 4 min/game on the PK.

  455. dallyd31 says:

    Something is up with this team.  Either they are absolutely exhausted, or most are playing hurt.  I have never seen so many guys skate half speed, wave their sticks, half-ass battle for the puck, not move their feet, constant giveaways, foolishg mental erros etc.

    This is not the team that we saw in the first half of the season.

    I’m not one to complain about the refs, but they sure didn’t help the cause…they were awful.  BUT the Habs made their own fate…just a terrible, terrible effort.

  456. ooder says:

    Gomez and 150 air miles reward miles to Atlant Moscow for the hat guy

    done deal!

    ——————

    GWG = game winning gionta!

  457. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    I like the pick-up. Sopel is a solid d-man.

    I’m a wee bit concerned about the posters who are upset because he isn’t the magic solution to absolutely everything.

  458. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    I always liked Sopel when he was with Vancouver, but I was under the impression that he dropped the gloves from time to time, but his PIM stats don’t reflect that.

    His 2.3 mil cap hit suggests that there may not be any more additions at d-day, unless of course PG can shed some salary.

  459. smiler2729 says:

    Dawes not Dawe, Nigel Dawes is not Jason Dawe and he’s Hamilton bound I bet

  460. twilighthours says:

    As posted on the game blog:

    I like the acquisition of Dawe.  Every time I’ve seen him play he has been involved and making things difficult for the other team.  He’ll be back in the bigs soon, I think.  He also is a deadly shootout guy, I believe.

    Sopel – As a 5th/6th D he’ll be nice.  Does this spell the end of Spacek?

    Maxwell was given a great shot last year and never made it happen.  Desharnais ate his lunch.  Good luck to Ben – hopefully he can turn it around in Atl.

  461. observer says:

    shot blocker = sopel

  462. Psycho29 says:

    Don’t be grumpy just because your boy Halak got yanked more this season than Charlie Sheen on a Saturday night…

  463. Everlasting1 says:

    Every team could use another defensive shot blocking mannequin. Subban too much of a sissy in that regard? hehe

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  464. cautiousoptimist says:

    I’d agree with you if he had moer than one year left on his contract, but $3.8M isn’t crazy for a defenceman who’s really very reliable when he plays reasonable minutes.  I’m sure we could get a 2nd and a 5th for him.

  465. patience is a virtue says:

    i like.  but where did Spacek’s $3.8M cap hit and physical presence magically disappear to?  he’s pretty much untradable at that price.  sadly…

  466. Duracell3 says:

    No one mentions goalies and you say this? Makes sense.

  467. Everlasting1 says:

    Have a link to the Leafs game tonight?

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  468. LA Loyalist says:

    You make great points – and I would be fine with a defensive counter-punch kind of style if we had the COUNTER PUNCH part of it and our system didn’t just depend on turtling in our own zone and letting our goalie face 40 shots.

    To me that’s not a system, sorry. 

    However I’m happy to see our defense beefed up with some experience and that should help Price and cut down the shots.

  469. habs001 says:

    management realizes that the main roster we have had since the beginning of last year will not be a scoring machine..we have been basically in the mid 20 slot in the nhl in scoring for 160 plus games..the team is set up to play tight games and win tight games…to change the teams philosophy will take more than one forward turnover…with only 21 games to go the best bet is to build on the teams strengths…to become a scoring team in the future there has to be at least 4-5 players changes and a different coaching strategy…right now this line up will win because of goaltending,team d,pk and scoring key goals at key times

  470. Hali_Hab says:

     also lilies is 5′ 10” and 180lbs  noooooooooooo thanks..

     

     

    “After 13 years, I couldn’t accept to be number two.“ Guy Lafleur.

  471. Trisomy 21 says:

    According to Dreger on twitter, the Avs are asking a 2nd round pick for Liles… Sopel isn’t looking so hot right now. I would take that, at least Liles has another year on his contract

  472. fbkj says:

    we dont have a 2nd to give

  473. Caper says:

    At $4.2. No thanks. Over-rated.

  474. LA Loyalist says:

    I’ve often thought of it as the Ronald Corey curse… first Chelios (though certainly Chelios bears some responsibility for that one) and Roy and Mike Keane.

    If Corey had dropped Mario and Houle (with all respect due to them as players) and brought in a proper management team we’d have another cup or two already instead of these years in the wilderness.

    I think 2013, though, the 20th anniversary of our last cup, could be it if we can just get rid of Gomer and Mr. Happy (JM) and bring in some male hockey players.

    Some good moves though, I like Wiz A LOT and even more since he dressed for Calgary and Sopel is a good Craig Ludwig type, though probably he has better shin pads :)

     

  475. GrimJim says:

    Markov is too young for performance bonuses (either entry level or plus-35, Markov is 32). My thought is it would be either a one-year deal to prove he can still play or a six year declining deal (ie 5-5-5-4-4-3) that lowers his cap hit overall.

  476. Ian Cobb says:

    We might sign him with performance bonuses.

  477. fbkj says:

    his agent wont have much leverage

  478. Ian Cobb says:

    Jim, don’t get me wrong. I love what Markov brings to our club, but his agent will try to sell him at a huge price and we won’t sign him for huge bucks.

  479. observer says:

    pathetic last 2 and a half minutes by habs

  480. shootdapuck says:

    Two WHL grads!

    Not pushovers!

     

     

    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  481. HabsFanInTampa says:

    The last “blockbuster” trade we made is when we sent our captain Mike Keane and superstar Patrick Roy to the Colorado Nordiques. UNFORTUNATELY, we were on the very wrong end of that giveaway. oops, I meant trade.

  482. SnowManHabs85 says:

    Sopel is a shot blocking stay at home defensemen, Price has dealt alone of odd man rushes as of late and that killed us at the Heritage Classic game. Dawes will probably just play in AHL, but if you look at his points stats compared to Maxwell, Dawes can find the back of the net better. So this maybe not a blockbuster trade we have been waiting for but exactly when was the last “blockbuster” trade the Habs made?

     

    Maybe this trade opens something up for a bigger trade in the works.

  483. PeterD says:

    Gauthier the “Ghost” strikes again…Interesting modus opperendai.

  484. andrewberkshire says:

    This deal once again shows that any Habs trade, you won’t hear about on Habs rumour sites.

  485. lemess says:

    I remember watching Dawes in the dub – he was a beast – I’m thinking a DD – Pouliot – Dawes third line could add some scoring punch.

  486. yukonhab says:

     

    Soap on a rope. Interesting trade. Possibly getting some vveteran Leadership for the run.

     

    Support your local indian – Price 31

  487. patience is a virtue says:

    because if one of Hammer or Gill’s aching bones breaks sometime after the deadline, we’re back to Picard or Nash (presuming Spacek is out, which i do)

  488. habsfansince91 says:

    ” I like Spacek, but he wasn’t doing anything special.”

    so i guess shutting down the oppositions top line every night doesn’t account for anything.

  489. Bill says:

    It’s reallty kind of a nothing trade. If Sopel is meant to replace Spacek … well, I like Spacek, but he wasn’t doing anything special. I thought Weber was doing okay. In fact, if they felt like they needed to get Sopel because Weber isn’t up to it … it’s not a great comment on Weber.

    Dawes will do nice things for Hamilton and I don’t think Maxwell was going to make it in Montreal, so that’s a wash. Basically we get Sopel for a 4th. Those draft picks start to add up for a while, but it’s more than reasonable.

    I just don’t see the necessity. I don’t hate the trade, and I don’t love the trade … I do not get the trade. Add a million bucks of cap space for the year and send Weber to the press box so Sopel can be our 5th-6th D-man. Alright. Whatever.

    It’s a tread-water trade. And unless a trade is going to improve your team, why do you make it?

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  490. Mats Naslund says:

    PG might be using Weber as trade bait to try to land an impact forward. Maybe not – but I like our defense a lot more with Sopel in it than with the possibility of Picard.

  491. cautiousoptimist says:

    I don’t think we’re going to pay $7.3M to our 6th and 7th D-men. : )  My guess would be something like: Markov $5M – Subban $0.9M | Wiz $3.75M – Sopel $2.5M | Gorges $2.5M – Gill $2.25M | Extra: Weber $0.9M.  

     

     

  492. F Bomb says:

    All these trades recently: Mara, Sopel, Wisniewski, Dawes are a result of injuries. 

    So far we have traded a 2nd (from Fischer) and a 5th for Wiz

    A 6th for Mara

    Maxwell and a 4th for Dawes and Sopel

    My opionion on 2012 D. 

    Markov (5.5 mil) Georges (2.75)

    Gill (2)  PK (entry level approx 900k?)

    Wizniewski ($3.75) Hammer ($3.5) 

    Depth: Spachek (3.8), Weber (900k) 

    That seems like alot of money for a D corps! Think any moves will be made? 

     

  493. patience is a virtue says:

    they probably have to chose between Gill and Hammer.  you don’t want $3.8M (Spacek) in the press box and Spacek is still a solid 3rd pair dman.  my guess is they resign Gill – cheaper, huge leadership factor, one of the league’s best PK specialists, has chemistry with PK.

    i doubt they pay to re-sign Wiz, a top-10 point producing UFA dman, for less than $4M.  Plus, i don’t like trading off his defensive liabilities for his offense.  but i am open to him coming back if Weber is traded.

    either they are going to trade Weber, or he will have a shot at an affordable regular spot on the bottom pair next season. depending on how they do this season maybe Mara or Sopel get an offer to come back at #7.  #8 is Nash/Carle.

    that makes:

    Markov ($5.5M)-Georges ($3M)

    Gill ($2M) – PK ($1M)

    Weber ($850K) – Spacek ($3.8M)

    Mara, Sopel, or another UFA ($1-2M) + Nash or Carle 

    everything changes if Emelin can be brought over.

     

     

  494. LA Loyalist says:

    … and remember you have to stagger the contracts as yeah PK is cheap like Borscht right now but he will hopefully deserve big bucks down the road, as probably will Weber. Yeah it’s a high class problem but it has to be planned out.

    Do you think Markov and Gorges will be that high $ given their severe injuries?

  495. olematelot says:

    You should do some research before making such a rediculous post

  496. SeriousFan09 says:

    Sopel was good enough to be a key factor in the SC Finals for CHI and they had about the best defence in the NHL that year.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  497. ZepFan2 says:

    The guy played 59 of 61 games.

    In mathland that works out to 2 games on the bench.

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  498. HardHabits says:

    Other teams turn our trash into players. Whose to say we can’t do the same with theirs.

  499. Jordio-oh says:

    I understand the frustration to a degree, but Sopel instantly becomes our leading shotblocker (tied with Hammer) and thats with under 17 minutes of ice time. Needless to say it isn’t a sexy trade but it fills our needs.

    Plus, sometimes one teams “trash” can turn out to be quite useful for another team (ie. Metropolit, Draper, Maltby) either in the playoffs or regular season.

  500. wall2bay says:

    Disagree…..Sopel is solid.  And it’s not like Maxwell was a sure thing.

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  501. nickster13 says:

    Dear Pierre Gauthier,

    would you please stop picking up everyones trash. Yes we aren’t giving up much, but guys who are routined scratched by other teams and arent even good enough to make teams like Atlanta and Anaheim better, will not make us better. These guys are castoffs! We don’t want other peoples garbage! Make a real trade that will help us either short term or long term, not guys you wanna sit in the pressbox once you realize why other teams didnt want them.

    Yeesh! Signed,

    Nick

  502. SeriousFan09 says:

    Habs have 13 players who were drafted/signed as centres in their system. If anything, they need new prospects at LW and D where they’re short of anyone who’s potential blue-chip.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  503. shiram says:

    Dustin Boyd is our center depth!

  504. Les-Habitants says:

    I like the trade. Giving up Maxwell really underlines who bare how prospect pool is now without him, but for this playoff run I think it is worth it.

    Sopel is a good blue liner who played well last spring, and really helps to stabalize our blue line.  Improves the PK, improves the toughnes…all in all, a solid rental.

    Nigel Dawes is an interesting pickup.  He’ll start on the 4th line, but this guy has got hands.  He’s gritty, solid 3rd line with upside – and will replace Darche and push Pyatt for the time being. 

    I like these pickups: for the cost, it really helps solidify this team for the run.

  505. Chris says:

    At 5’9″ but 200 pounds, I would not call Dawes “small”.  Packing 200 pounds on that frame means he must be a pretty powerful guy. 

    By contrast, Martin St. Louis is 5’9″ and 177 pounds while Mark Recchi is 5’10” and 195 pounds.

  506. Barts says:

    Easy move for Sopel, he’s been living in a hotel all season. He flies home to Chicago when he has a few days off.

  507. Scott in Montreal says:

    Someone just reminded me of another intangible benefit to Sopel on the Habs blue-line: he can handle the Flyers. Instant psychological barrier lifted for entire Habs D.

  508. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Is he THAT physical? Being an east coast fan I’ve never really been all that aware of his game.

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  509. Mark C says:

    Now? He had 16 goals and 32 points while getting 14:32 in ice time in 66 games just last year. That is great production given his role and ice time. He’s third in goals in the AHL. There is no reason to think that he can’t be a valuable bottom-6 player next year. 

  510. fbkj says:

    sopel is an insomniac

  511. PeterD says:

    Sopel for a 4th and Dawes for Maxwell…not exactly a “blockbuster” deadline deal, but I think it helps out back end and I think this may mean we have seen the last of Spacek for this season…I hope not but he has injured his he may be done for a while at least…us older guys don’t heal quite as fast as we used too.

    Sopel sounds like a good responsibel d-man with a bit of grit and for sure some play-off experience..so I think he will help us down the final run.

    Dawes is a bit of a mystery why Pierre went out for him…I knew the name but never paid much attention to his career before today…so he is 5′ 9″…not exactly the moose we thought we might get for the drive, but his number is the AHL look pretty strong so maybe he can bring something there and maybe make a injury recall later if needed…he is 200 Lbs…so even though is is short he seems to be build like Boullion was…like a box tough to move off the even though he is small.

    Time will tell, I hope we see Sopel tonight…

  512. kempie says:

    Shouldn’t we have seen a “These two geniuses” rant from Tony by now?

  513. darcy1 says:

    Wiz was brought in to replace Markov, Mara was to replace Georges, Sopel is for Spacek.

    We need 6 quality dmen on the roster to play out the season and the young guns weren’t doing it in gauthiers eyes.

    ——————-
    ”If you’ve only got one day to live, come see the Toronto Maple Leafs. It’ll seem like forever. ” Pat Foley (Blackhawks broadcaster)

  514. nickster13 says:

    part of the problem is picking up BOTH Mara and Sopel, 1 im fine with, both? Stupid since theyre playing the same role (6th-7th D man), why would Gauthier do that

  515. TomNickle says:

    They started talks with Pleks before the end of last season.  Komisarek the year before that.  

    Whoops.

  516. shiram says:

    I guess it’s not too bad for the Guins, but the Habs didnt have all that space to fit him.

  517. Duracell3 says:

    With Malkin gone its not bad, I don’t think Mario is too worried about the 1.2 million. If he helps you win a game or series they’d make it back from playoff revenue. I didn’t realize before he also had a NTC.

  518. Duracell3 says:

    Oh totally, I wasn’t trying to say they should have, I see how it could be taken that way though

  519. Danno says:

    You get what you pay for.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  520. shiram says:

    They still have to take on his salary on the cap.

  521. Gormdog says:

    I meant last year in the NHL…

  522. CanadienBoy says:

    Dawes actually score goals  27  to max 11

  523. Gormdog says:

    I know I know, I think the point was more Pyatt has shown literally zero offensive output in the NHL compared to Dawes scoring in the teens last season in limited action…

  524. Ian Cobb says:

    Smaller contract, with bonuses, might be a way to keep him.

  525. Ian Cobb says:

    We will only offer him a contract if it is much less than the last one.

  526. ABHabsfan says:

    I could see a large portion,if not all, of Hammer’s current contract going to Markov. Hammer has been great but I cannot see signing a 38 yr old d-man to another deal, especially at the expense of Markov

  527. fbkj says:

    i think everyone is aware of this

  528. TorontoHabsFan says:

    I agree.

    I foresee two scenarios wrt his contract – either he signs a one year deal for roughly the same money (maybe a bit less) in hopes of a strong season which he can parlay into a big, long term deal. Or he signs a 3 or 4 year deal at a bit of a discount, say $5m/yr.

  529. SeriousFan09 says:

    Anyone who’s spent half of the last 2 years recovering from twin ACL surgeries on his knee is likely not going to be demanding a big-figure deal, it’s likely going to be a 1-2 year contract at less than he what he was getting last time.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  530. sergim26 says:

    I think you can only include bonuses in an entry level and over 35 contracts.

  531. Habs22 says:

    how does this sound? if stastny really is being moved out of colorado

    gomez, ak, weber, and a 1st for stastny

    colorado has about 16 million $ in cap space, stastny makes 6.6 million $, this trade would make colorado take on about 4.9 million $ more in salary, still leaving them with over 11 million $

    they get a center in gomez to replace stastny in the short term (can always send him to the minors if they decide to), plus ak and weber, two younger players with potential, and a first round pick… obviously if stastny does not really want out it wouldn’t work but if colorado is being pressured a little given the circumstances it could be something they would consider

  532. alestar says:

    Wow…that’s generous.

     

    XXIV…and counting

  533. GrimJim says:

    I disagree Ian. Sopel and Mara are not replacements for Markov’s skill set. And given a choice between Markov vs Hammer or Spacek, most here would take Markov. And I don’t think Markov will be looking for a raise when he’s missed most of two consecutive seasons. Even IF he is “damaged goods” I think Markov is still the bridge until PK hits his full potential.

  534. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t think Markov’s story is quite done in Montreal. He’s a leader, an elite defencemen with a tremendous hockey sense who effectively leads the defence when he’s on and can play in any situation. Having him for a couple more years would be great for mentoring PK in the finer parts of offensive play in the NHL. He likely won’t recieve a monster contract but he and team are on good terms, I doubt he became a Canadian citizen for nothing.

    Montreal learned to win without him, but they can win more often with him. I doubt he’s going to be getting a huge $ value on his new deal either.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  535. Ian Cobb says:

    Something tells me that UFA Markov is done in Montreal.!! Don’t think we are going to pay huge bucks for damaged goods. To bad ,so sad.!

  536. Habs22 says:

    well they would also be generously taking on a player that most of the fans here would be willing to give away for nothing in return…

  537. 24moreCups says:

    On the Team 990 a few minutes ago Pierre Mcguire just said he hasn’t been traded yet.

  538. Ayan_SB says:

    And it was first reported by RDS Renaud Lavoie.

    Hmm…

  539. habsruleworld says:

    what is the source? dregger just said lots of speculation, nothing confirmed

  540. Storm Man says:

    You jumped the gun…… He has not been traded yet.

  541. CanadienBoy says:

    Weiss traded

  542. Danno says:

    Done!

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  543. mtl8 says:

    I say was all visit his wife’s blog (pretty cool btw) and give Sopel and official MTL welcoming.  Love to see him around next year!

  544. Scott in Montreal says:

    I don’t know about that part of his game, but as someone below pointed out, Sopel was the go-to shut-down guy on the PK in the finals, and that means he got in their heads. He and Gill both hoisted the Stanley Cup during the current Obama administration, and they will likely make up the first pairing on the PK. I like that.

  545. samTHEman says:

    Pouliot might be from Ontario but he’s definately got Quebecer blood with that name…

  546. fbkj says:

    pat lafontaine

    mark messier

    etc

  547. nickster13 says:

    that team was stacked, we are not :P

  548. HABSsince92 says:

    Well I like the trade for the short-term, this season but if they don’t resign Sopel (he is a ufa) then we gave up a 22 year old prospect for a rental which I hate.

     

    Been a Habs fan since I was in 2nd grade and sat behind Patrick Roy at the Aud.

  549. mtl8 says:

    Way to lead the way Rocket!

  550. SHUTTemDOWN says:

    So the reason the Hawks are hurtin’ this year is because they gave up Byfuglien and Sopel?

    “The sh*t is CHESS!NOT CHECKERS.” Denzel W.(Training Day)

  551. fun police says:

    kovy always played well in the playoffs.

  552. nickster13 says:

    he’s a career AHLer now, sorry. Way too ambitious of you to expect a guy who cant make the thrashers to suddenly come in and play a solid bottom six role

  553. Mark C says:

    I think Dawes has some long-term value to this team. He is small but he plays a somewhat gritty game, is willing to go to the dirty areas, and is a good overall defensive player. He has score 14 goals twice and 10 goals once in the NHL all in 66 games or less. He could provide some secondary score on the bottom-6 next season.

  554. Timo says:

    That’s more than…. Gomez :)

  555. riksha99 says:

    I believe Andrew Berkshire had it right to say that Sopel is the right fill for Gorges being lost for the year.

    Sopel gives flexibility and balance for defensive pairings and when (and it is a question of when) another D goes down.  Also, he just might move guys like Kesler away from the net.

    Pairings:

    Subban-Gill

    Hamrlik – Spacek (and until he gets health Weber/Picard)

    Sopel – Wiz

    PP:

    Subban-Wiz

    Hamrlik-Weber

    PK:

    Subban-Gill

    Sopel-Hamrlik

    For all those slagging PG, this guy is showing some skills in hunting for depth players without giving sacrificing anyone of significance. Imagine if we had traded Subban for Neal?  Exactly, it’s not our year.  If we make any noise in the playoffs this year, we’ll have to do it like we did last year…solid team play, capitalizing on chances and our game-breaker goalie stealing some games.

    We’re building around these three players: Pleks, Subban, Price and PG is doing a good job of picking up value without subtracting.  He’s also the same GM who signed Price after Halak couldn’t see above the towering Philly team last year (and nobody agreed with him then).

  556. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Well if you tell everyone that he won’t develope and that the organization has given up on him it makes it a little harder to find a trade partner no?

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  557. JIMVINNY says:

    Our depth at center has increased a lot over the last year, (Leblanc, Eller, DD proving himself) and with how Maxwell has never been able to crack the Habs lineup, he became expendable.  

  558. shiram says:

    Plekanec, Gomez, Desharnais, Eller, and this season at least Halpern.

    He was a bit down on our depth chart as we have alot of centers.

  559. HABSsince92 says:

    I thought Maxwell was a valuable long term future player for us? I thought he was highly regarded in the organization?

     

    Been a Habs fan since I was in 2nd grade and sat behind Patrick Roy at the Aud.

  560. Ayan_SB says:

    Bob McKenzie reports that Florida’s trading Cory Stillman to Carolina.

    He also says that: Stephen Weiss has not waived his NTC to go anywhere at this point in time. If that changes, will let you know.

  561. PrimeTime says:

    Maxwell no longer fit into the plans so good on PG for getting something (Sopel) needed considering our sudden lack of depth in the back. Soap should fit in well.

  562. ccamp31 says:

    A very solid deal for Gauthier…sure, not the blockbuster everyone dreams about, but gives us some solid depth on D (which we desperately need right now).

    IMO, Maxwell and Dawes are a wash…two players who currently look decent in the AHL, but are a longshot to make an impact in the NHL right now.  So that leaves a 4th round pick for Sopel, which I think is a very nice exchange for the Habs. I know some people are behind Weber, but I really don’t think he’s ready at this point.  He gets shoved off the puck way too easy, and he’s just not strong enough to move anyone from in front of the net.

  563. SHUTTemDOWN says:

    If I were you… I wouldn’t drop that BENGAY.

    “The sh*t is CHESS!NOT CHECKERS.” Denzel W.(Training Day)

  564. HABSsince92 says:

    Good post. I think PG is going to do the smart thing with the team this year and plan for the future ie next sesaon still.

     

    Been a Habs fan since I was in 2nd grade and sat behind Patrick Roy at the Aud.

  565. observer says:

    The first star of the game Phil Kessell who has now played 132 games for the Leafs his 2 seasons there with 55 goals and 44 assists or 99 points. As Burke says “a bird in hand is worth more than 2 birds in the bush.”

  566. HabFanSince72 says:

    If Spacek is out for the season this deal does not affect our cap space.

  567. Propwash says:

    Good trade as far as I’m concerned.

  568. canadiens26 says:

    I was never one to criticize refs either. Then this hockey season came along and it all went downhill

  569. adam76 says:

    I woner how Kovlev will fare back with the Pens?


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