The Canadiens are in Calgary for the first of their four game road trip on Tuesday against the Flames, but they won’t be seeing Mike Cammalleri.
The former Hab, who was exchanged for Rene Bourque on Jan. 12, is out with the ubiquitous upper body injury, and no one seems to know how it happened. Plus — as the traveling Mike Boone reports — he was not made available to the media by the Calgary organization on Monday.
Some around the Flames speculate Cammalleri may have been injured when a puck shot by Olli Jokinen hit him in the throat last Friday in Anaheim (a game the Flames lost in the last minute of regulation), but coach Brent Sutter denied that. Others have speculated he may be suffering the after-effects from one of two incidents on Sunday, an elbow from the Stars Sheldon Souray or an open-ice hit by the Stars Steve Ott.
His absence will put a hole in the middle of Calgary second line, Cammalleri having been shifted to centre by Sutter in mid-February, and it seems to have been a good move once the 29-year-old Cammalleri adjusted to his new surroundings. He had nine points (4g, 5a) in the previous 12 games. He’s got five goals and 11 points total in 21 games since the trade.
As Boone quoted from Sutter’s remarks to the media, the Flames will miss his puck moving talents. “I like him having the puck in his hands,” Sutter said. “In the neutral zone, making plays. He’s a skilled player, a shooter, but I like the play in his own zone, working with the defence and coming through the neutral zone, he has the puck on his stick.”
His absence is forcing Sutter to move his third and fourth line centres — Matt Stajan and Roman Horak — one notch up the depth chart.
The Flames have also suffered injuries to two other forwards in the last few games — and they’ve had injury problems all year with the likes of veteran Lee Stempniak, promising young centre Mikael Backlund and depth forward Blair Jones and defenceman Chris Butler all on IR.
Among the newest casualties, Blake Comeau picked up a shoulder injury last week and he’s out for two-three weeks and Lance Bouma left Sunday’s game with an upper body injury that will force him to miss Tuesday’s game as well.
So the Flames reached down into their AHL Abbortsford Heat club Monday and recalled an entire forward line — Guillaume Desbiens, Krys Kolanos and Greg Nemisz. It’s projected they will play as the fourth trio against the Habs. “I decided I wanted to bring up one full line and have three guys that can come in and play together and are used to playing with each other,” Sutter said.
This is a significant game for Calgary, who look to be as fragile mentally as they are physically. They’ve won only once in their last seven. They were in eighth spot in mid-February but have fallen back to 11th in the West, three points behind the eighth place Sharks, who have two games in hand on the Flames.
Their big failing has been on home ice (something the Canadiens know about) where they’ve not won in their past five outings (0-2-3) and they scored first in each of those games. They’re in the middle of a stretch in which they’ll end up playing nine of 11 at home, but it hasn’t gone well. They now have a 16-10-5 record in the Saddledome.
And they don’t play well against the East. They’re 4-7-5 against the Eastern clubs so far and after they play the Habs, they host the Jets.
More bad signs: The Flames were outshot 40-38 by Dallas and have been outshot for 13 consecutive games.
Still, they are in the race. “We keep going,” captain Jarome Iginla said. “There’s lots of hockey to be played … lots of points left. We need to put a string together. We know we need to win a good share of those games, but we believe we can do that.”
With Miikka Kiprusoff in goal, that’s certainly possible. The Flames workhorse has seen more pucks than most NHL netminders (his 1526 saves are third most in the league) and his save percentage of .921 is quite good for that amount of work. His 57 appearances are also third in the league.
Henrik Karlsson is his backup, but when the Flames plan to rest Kiprusoff, as they did against Anaheim Friday, they’ll again call up rookie Leland Irving, who played well against the Ducks, to start.
Here’s a guess on how the banged-up Flames might look Tuesday. Boone points out the game will be the 600th of ex-Hab Tom Kostopoulos’s career.
Alex Tanguay, Olli Jokinen, Jarome Iginla
Curtis Glencross, Matt Stajan, David Moss
Tom Kostopoulos, Roman Horak, Tim Jackman
Guillaume Desbiens, Greg Nemisz, Krys Kolanos
Derek Smith, Jay Bouwmeester
Mark Giordano, Scott Hannan
T.J. Brodie, Cory Sarich
Miikka Kiprusoff
Henrik Karlsson
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Okay, so as part of my regimen to free myself from the World of Sensual Delusion, I have begun to ponder the following Zen Koans:
- What is the sound of one Hab clapping?
- What was the Habs’ logo before J. Ambrose O’Brien was born?
- A fan approached Joshu and asked him if the Habs had true Cup-Contender-nature. Joshu replied, “Gomez.”
I will ponder these until I am enlightened to the True Nature of Hockey and the World.
MAN! Being a fan is hard work!
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
- The sound of saturday’s Leaf game.
- It was a positive time. They had choice of logos back then.
- Actually, what he said was “go home, Ezcam!, not Gomez”
Now you are enlightened.
I can see by your quest for baptism that you are a lost soul, contrary to your signature.
Cammy looks lost….. maybe he’s trying to get back to rue Stanley
we need to play 40 solid mins of hockey to give the false image we are a strong team, then relax and ooopsie blow the 3rd period, in other words keep on doing what theye doing.need the big draft choice. markovs skating !! may play !! now yet another seasons over and means nothing, he wants to get in there. 100 bux he tweaks something and returns to the beach in florida for another year.
GO HABS GO
Nice to hear Crosby is cleared for contact….hope the kid plays well down the stretch…with him in the lineup I will become a Penguins fan for the playoffs…if he is out that changes and I have to start flipping coins…always gotta pull for Canadian teams and the Sens turnaround is a pretty good story but not likely enough. There is always the Wings who you have to respect, Nashville is interesting but NYR,PHilly and Boston…no thanks, St Louis? interesting one for sure…I wouldn’t mind that but with Crosby in and the Habs out that is who I will be backing.
I want Crosby to concuss Stamkos.
That would be insane.
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
So basically, you have no idea who you’re going to root for….
Crosby or crapshoot
How about just a simple, Go Jets Go!
I think the order is Crosby, then any Canadian team then Detroit, St Louis, Nashville, Chicago,etc,etc. T
Well I have a home town bias that puts the Jets first, but they have their work cut out just making it. If somehow that team gets the division title and has a 3rd seed, with their home ice advantage look out!
Hey Gerry.
I saw sunday morning you were wondering how the painting is going.
I finished (or so I thought)….then my wife came home….
“Buy a light forest green” she had said. So I did…sort of light olive.
So she gets home, looks at the walls and asks : “Are you OK with this colour?” her nose clearly out of joint.
So guess what, last night I started re-painting a taupe earth tone.
I think living in my own apartment would be cheaper. Oye..
Oh my friend, I know exactly what you are going through. Be strong, take plenty of beer and remember to watch the game tonight.
Sounds good buddy. I have to hold off on the beer though. Otherwise my line at the ceiling goes awry.
Drinking doesn’t always help me function properly.
Wow, that guy was incredible! THanks for the link, you don’t see that anymore.
HA!!
It was clearly your wife’s fault for letting YOU pick the colours.
I refuse to pick colours. I have no opinion on the matter.
i could live in a barf-brown house for all I cared.
You pick the colour, I slap it on the wall.
Poor you…
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
I swear that’s what I was thinking as soon as her jaw dropped.
LOL. Revenge of the olives. Make me paint instead of enjoying my weekend? Take that!
On a side note, I will have a chance to fulfill a dream and play against all my idols growing up as I will be suiting up to play against the Montreal Alumni tomorrow night at the MacIntyre Arena in Timmins Ontario !! This will be a night to remember !
Now back to hockey, the Habs hopefully will only play Markov for about 4 of the remaining games as we need that lottery pick more than we need Markov ! The lottery pick will hopefully be with the team for 15 years and be a part of a youthful nucleus going forward !
paolo merenda
Nice, way to go, enjoy your night tomorrow. That is awesome!
OK so Markov is skating with contact. Do we bring him back this year to test the knee in game conditions or wait and start all over gain in September?
Personally I would like to see him this year even if it is only 3/4 games if he blows it out then we can get a top 4 defenceman in the off season. . If it holds then he can still strengthen it in the summer.
to paraphrase Nixon: If the Bruins do it, it is not illegal
Play him. Once the knee is fully rehabilitated, what’s the point of waiting? The Habs have to find out what they need for the Draft and UFA day.
Cammalleri out against the team he called “losers” prior to being traded. seems like a little bit of a coincidence. no? maybe he is injured. but if not, little bit of a pussy. you better back up your words.
Offense wins games, defense wins championships. Best defense is a good offense. Vicious circle.
He didn’t call them losers.
He said when a team has a losing mentality, it breeds losing.
The article was written in French, then badly translated back to English.
Check it out.
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Oy, you’re coming off like a bruins fan.
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“You cannot petition the lord with prayer!” – James Douglas Morrison
Randam thoughts:
- The oilers are far too experienced at losing and sucking that there is no was they will lose hold of the #29 spot. Somehow they will make our team look like stars on Thrusday.
- Cunneyworth has either lost his vision for the team or he is being handcuffed. Poor guy, they will probably fire him at the post game conference after game 82.
- Gauthier will be “replaced” as GM but not “fired”. They will make it sound like a transitional move and probably give him some other fancy position “special advisor”.
- Surely Craperle wont be playing when Markov returns. WE cant dress a dman just so he can be on teh 2nd PP unit.
- Even teh players who are trying to earn NHL contracts and future roster spots seem uninterested on the ice. Ugh.
That could be quite the game on Thursday, with both teams trying to tank, the goalies could play with no masks. Over/under on penalties- 1
“man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh
Oilers are going to play in our end most of the night.
They have a lot of talent up front and when they show up they are very fun to watch.
Yes, Kaberle will play when Markov returns. It’s not as if Weber and Diaz are better.
Diaz is better defensively.
diaz is MUCH better than Kaberle. Defensively and with the puck. fine kaberle is good on PP, but you should be good when you have one less opponent on the ice. if not you suck big time
Offense wins games, defense wins championships. Best defense is a good offense. Vicious circle.
Diaz is a tiny tot who is afraid to go in the corners. Have you seen him the last 10 games or so he’s played? He needs a dose of Hamilton, big time.
Nice to see Matty is exchanging one set of beliefs based on fantasy for another based on fiction. It’s a step in the right direction. He might soon enter the realm of possibilities. Still a ways off from reality but at least his nose is pointed in the right direction.
Keep at it Mats. The promised land is just around the corner.
Hold on, hold on…
Isn’t hoping for a ‘clearer view on reality’ too optimistic?
Wouldn’t true pessimism (read ‘realism’) encourage me to give up trying to see the ‘real world’ for what it ‘really is’?
Isn’t the desire to see how miserable the world really is inherently optimistic and counterproductive?
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Don’t question the preacher, you’ll go to hell!
Hang on am I reading this right, you are dissing Matty for fantasy talk, you the one who has a time travel machine who magically posts lines with players long gone from the Habs organization?
Do you ever read back your posts?
I can’t hear you. Too much water in my ears after the baptism.
I can send you some drops, let me know if the problem persists.
Careful. I believe sending controlled substances such as mind altering drugs via Canada Post is illegal.
Here, pass them to me and I’ll deliver them personally.
***Subbang Baby!!!***
Punkster’s on the prowl.
I’ve got some V5s…..I’m married, remember?
I know this is mean-spirited but I would love to be able to claim Turco off waivers and really throw a 2×4 into Boston’s spokes.
Sure, that way him and Budaj can split the games Price does not play!
Should have signed him in July 2010
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GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
“Scott Gomez is an elite NHL player” – VancouverHab
Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81
…is it just me, or are the entire internets slow?
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Nah just HIO.
You’ve been saved…have you?
Oh brother…where art thou?
Yessiree, by them ‘realists’ openin’ my eyes to the real an’ true nature of this here world we’s livin’ in.
It’s nothin’ but a pile ‘o shee-it, an’ every silver cloud is actually a swarm ‘o locusts comin’ to pick the flesh off’n our bones!
Saved, I tells ya…
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Hell, after that talkin’-to that I received from ManApart, I even considered not getting out of bed today. I mean, if it’s all for naught, then what’s the point?!
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Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.
LMAO! You can inject an F in there, right after the M.
What is important is you learned from that discussion with ManApart, many others have come away confused, the fact you learned puts you way ahead of the curve!
Thanks for the chuckles Matt.
I get a visual with your southern drawl….quite amusing.
All-time favourite movie, bar none.
I’m the Pater Familias!
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
lol
Them syreens did this to Pete. They loved him up and turned him into a horny toad!
effin’ brilliant flick. Where a writer(s) gets the inspiration to do the Odyssey as a black comedy in the deep South during the depression, I’ll never understand.
Ha!
It’s great.
Okay, I gotta run oft.
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
I read articles on the habs and what a terrible year Plec is having; 12 goals, 42 pts and a minus 20. But it’s because of the constant line juggling and him never having the same linemates to develop chemistry. The same could be said of AK yet so many posters dumped on him. Grabowski 5yrs for 27.5 mil
ability is what you’re capable of doing.
attitude determines how you do it
Remember that he has gone thru way too many line changes and Brian Gionta has been gone for rest of this season. I expect Plekanec will rebound next year.
Did you read the whole post?
I had a weird dream last night: Emelin traded to Nashville for Sutter… Weird part? I was actually pissed at that trade
That would be weird since I don’t think Nash has any Sutters, they have a Suter who’s pretty good, though
“man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh
That’s just being a troll
It was easy pickin’s. Admittedly not my finest work but very little to comment on today. I do feel some shame…now it’s gone
“man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh
I agree they need scorers, but in today’s NHL teams with great defense and goaltending can sustain a run in the playoffs like the Bruins did last year. I just think a safe pick is certainly something to consider with the question marks like Grigs and Galynchucks knee
Well Garbovski just signed for 5 million a year for like 5 years… Good luck getting a 20 goal scorer for less with this overpriced market. Letting AK(20 goal scorer) go that woulda signed here for 3 million was a mistake….
5.5millions over 5 years.
And yea goal scorer are getting quite expensive.
With a limited no trade attached
5 yrs 27.5 mil
Do you really think AK would take salary hit to stay in Montreal?
4.5 million to AK on the Open Market. I’ll take Cole for that thanks.
He said as much.
So did Komi, when we had him behind the bench as a coach while he was injured…. Then what did he do?
When push comes to shove, and he can get over 4 million in Nashville with his Brother do you really think he chooses MTL for 3 million?
Frankly I have no idea, those BelloRussians, enigmas all of them!
But it’s my opinion that AK would have prefered staying in MTL, now that he is playing elsewhere, it could definately change his mind.
So did Gorges!
They let him become a UFA.
He said he would stay here for less
No way.. his agent would test the market and let the Habs have first chance possibly. Grabovsky would have done the same.
He would have signed for less if he didn’t hit the market.
Hire the best regardless of language
In all fairness, Bourque replaces AK at only 3.33mil. AK said he would take a discount, but didn’t say he would sign for less than what he was making as an RFA. To me, ‘discount’ means taking less than what you could get, not less than what you are already getting.
If Grabo was worth 5.5mil, then AK was worth say 4.75-5.00mil. That means at a discount he signs for let’s say 4mil. Still more expensive than Bourque though only slightly. Basically it’s a wash, though Bourque seems to average more goals and points than AK does.
The only reason why I’d prefer AK to Bourque is because he was our draft pick and because I liked the Moen-Eller-AK line and would have liked to see it get more of a chance.
- Honestly yours
Twitter: @de_benny
Halak’s done it. He’s leapfrogged Johnathan Quick of L.A. and moved up to #3 in the NHL.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20122ALLGAGAll&sort=goalsAgainstAverage&viewName=goalsAgainstAverage
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAsthau8Ccs
Good for him, though Quick is far more impressive considering he’s played an additional 18 games for a much worse team.
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Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.
Nice work.
Couldn’t happen to a better guy.
My only question is, why are you posting that here?
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
My thoughts exactly! He must be stuck in time or something cuz that’s what his profile pic tells me.
I know this is like talking to a brick wall but…
Career NHL GAA and Save %
Halak 2.57 GAA .916%
Price 2.60 GAA .916%
Halak is 26, Price is 24. Goalies tend to mature and improve with age.
Price’s playoff totals aren’t as good as Halak’s with a couple of rocky years to start his career, but last year Price’s numbers were better than those.. wait for it… Halak’s “magic” run.
Oh yeah, Goalies improve with age.
I know I just got trolled by you, but I had to say something, otherwise people might begin to believe the idiocy that you spout.
Price is older now than Jaro was during his “magic” run. Price = five years, one playoff round. Who’s droll? LOL. Nobody’s afraid to say they traded the wrong goalie. Price Kool-Aid has lost its hold on us. We’ve improved with age. And so has Jaro.
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
Halak is 26, aka 8 years NHL eligible with 2 playoff rounds. Why didn’t he win one last year? Oh that’s right, he couldn’t play well enough to get a mediocre team into the playoffs. Sounds identical to Price, but the team Price plays behind is much worse.
As I said brick wall.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=72667
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=72046
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
2010 was a proof.
Sums it up quite nicely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0
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Don’t let the wultures getcha.
HA!!!
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20122ALLGAGAll&sort=goalsAgainstAverage&viewName=goalsAgainstAverage
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
Halak’s done it. He’s leapfrogged Johnathan Quick of L.A. and moved up to #3 in the NHL.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.htm?fetchKey=20122ALLGAGAll&sort=goalsAgainstAverage&viewName=goalsAgainstAverage
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
The guy faces less than 20 shots a game and plays in a stifling Hitchcock defensive system……Even an ex-Sens backup goalie can play like an all-star in that system!
I’ve got to save that for future reference…
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Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.
For when he goes into second place behind Elliott?
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
I was talking about the ‘Who Cares” clip.
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Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.
Halak signed with St Lou for what $4 mill a year and Price is gonna sign for like $8 million per year for 8 years ($65 million people) and Halak can stop shoot-outs ;break-a-ways,man?
I am always amused when the Kool-Oids (who crucify GaineyGauthier daily) sing their high praises of the Halak trade.
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
Will you be providing an update on Ribeiro, Ryder, Metropolit, etc???
Mr. Stubbs just posted this on Twitter and I thought I’d share it here:
Last 3 seasons, #Habs have lost 236, 262 & 253 man-games to injury. This season, 16 games still to play: 324 man-games lost
- Honestly yours
Twitter: @de_benny
Fire everyone!!!!
I understand and would like the Habs to draft a big center or scorer. However, it may be tough to pass up a Sure thing Defensmen like Dumba or Murray. Pair them with PK/Emelin for future and could be like Larry Robinson/Savard/LaPointe. Again with the big gambles after Yakupov, it may be a better way for them to go in draft and then try and get C in Free agency or Trade.
but then you still need the Lafleurs and schutts too score goals to make your team a cup champion
In the 18 seasons prior to Gary Bettman becoming NHL commissioner, Canadian teams won 12 Stanley Cups.
In the 18 seasons that Gary Bettman has been NHL commissioner, Canadian teams have won 0 Stanley Cups.
Coincidence?
Yep.
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
Nope.
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Gary Bettman is an alien who sleeps by day next to JFK, Marilyn and Jesse Ventura and after dark he dances the night away with Undead Freddie Mercury!
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
Bettman was commissioner when the Habs last won in 1993
True, but he only became commish in February; the season was half-over by then.
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Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.
Where was he Nov. 22, 1963?
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
So last night, l’AntiChambre mentioned that the cap, contrary to earlier predictions, will be going up next year.
The Rocket must be rolling over in his grave.
To think, he had to sell fishing tackle in the summer to supplement his income. They all worked, until Beliveau came along.
And he signed the most lucrative deal of the time, $100,000 over 5 years. Wow…
So yesterday, mini-primadonna Grabosky was given $5.5MM/year for 5 years? For being a spoiled little beotch?
The players and their agents are completely de-sensitized!
And who pays for this? We, the suckers…
Between this, and the way the Habs have played this year, give me the GD remote….time to turn the nutbox off.
Trying out the new sig…
This is for all the ‘realists’ out there.
C’mon in boys, the water is fiiiiine…
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
@HARDHABITS
Its easy to pick and choose. But you have to look at everything. Can’t have all the players on the roster and the prospects too. They don’t all fit. So look at what we got right now. Also don’t ignore the problems we had with Ryder, SK, Ribeiro, and Grabovsky.
Ribeiro. Cole
Ryder. Gionta
Latendresse. DD
Higgins. Eller
SK. Bourque
AK. LeBlanc
D’Ags. Moen.
McDonagh. . Gorges
Streit . Kaberle
Komi. . Emelin
O’Byrne. Geoffrion (and if you don’t like him, then Tinordi)
Halak.. Price
Grabovski. Gomez.. (only one of these that is a loss in my opinion)
Now look at cap hits, and point production this year and come back and tell me its the worst thing in the world,
BY THE WAY…. We also have 2 extra draft picks and a top 5 coming to us.
I would think Kaberle instead of Streit is a loss as well but i get what you are going for here and it makes sense.
Kaberle and streit are averaging the exact same amount of points per game for the Habs and Isles, respectively. 4.1 vs 4.25. Agreed. But its so close. I would prefer Streit too of course, But like Komi, wanted to try FA market. And chose to play for a bottom team with ZERO playoff chances. I would prefer a guy who left a non playoff team, for a playoff team. Kabs also just won the Stanley Cup. Played 16 min a game and lead the team in PP points in the playoffs.
I cannot seem to post.
The servers are brutal today.
I’m a little dissapointed to see that no mention or thread about Jean Guy Talbot suffering a stroke yesterday.
Jean Guy was a mainstay on defence for the HABS and is one of only five surviving players that one ALL 5 cups from ’56-60.
(Beliveau, H.Richard, Moore and Donny Marshall are the others).
Get well soon Jean Guy we could use you now.
to paraphrase Nixon: If the Bruins do it, it is not illegal
First I’ve heard of this unfortunate news. Sad week for some of our all-time heroes.
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“Scott Gomez is an elite NHL player” – VancouverHab
Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81
I think Dickie Moore might argue that he is still alive and well
Yes of course . My mistake I have corrected it
to paraphrase Nixon: If the Bruins do it, it is not illegal
Servers are quite wonky today, posts disappearing left and right…
Wouldn’t it be nice if we could win the Lottery and jump up to first. However with our luck it’s more likely that somebody jump ahead of us and push us back a spot.
That would pretty much fit right in with how our season has gone so don’t be surprised one bit if it happens.
- Honestly yours
Twitter: @de_benny
Could it be Cammy just doesn’t want to play against his former team where it seems nobody liked him? If it’s a legit injury, why wouldn’t he talk to the media? I know this is a dumb theory but this is the kind of crap that pops in my head after just waking up and I haven’t had my coffee yet
Cammy must have the “Emelin flu”
I doubt it. He is a competitor and still thinks he is awesome. I can’t see him not wanting to play because of that.
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Didn’t he get hit in the head and now has a concussion? I could be wrong but i thought that was what i heard.
Just got some free tickets for tonight’s game. Section 110.
Who from the Calgary crew going to be there?
i got nose bleeds for the game section 214 i think
FREE in 110? good deal, Timo! I’ll be there but 2nd level somewhere…
Anyone going to the practice?
I now people who know people
And those people ain’t Boone.
I don’t know anyone hence the section 214!!!!!!!! but thats where the party will be up in the bleeds
yup i think i’m gonna head down for practice
Who did we get in return for Grabovski?
Greg Pateryn and a 2010 second round pick
It was Greg Pateryn and a 2010 second round pick
AKA: Nothing
We traded that 2nd round pick for Robert Lang, was amazing for us before got hurt pretty badly.
Yeah, that achilles thing was brutal.
it was those damn hypnosis uniforms.
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He came back with Phoenix the next season and had 29 points in 64 games.
“Okay everybody take a Valium.” – Rene Levesque
Greg Patteryn (U. of Michigan) and a 2nd rounder in 2010. I believe we traded the pick away.
Sounds bad, but Grabovski walked off our team 23 games into his rookie campaign due to ice-time. What was the trade value of Grabovski at that time????
j.p. murray
We picked up Lang with the 2nd I believe.
Greg Pateryn and a 2nd round pick.
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Grigorenko is a bust! If we draft this enigma we may seriously regret it.
This is copied from the TSN draft page
Mikhail Grigorenko: There had been whispers over the past month that all may not be wonderful when it comes to the scouting world’s perception of Grigorenko’s competitiveness, but the whispers have grown into full-blown skepticism in some circles. “He could fall right off the map,” said one scout who asserted that his club won’t be considering him in the first round.
“He doesn’t want to compete. If he’s there at 25 and we are picking, we go by him.”
His concerns were echoed by another eastern conference scout who insisted his team will not select the talented Russian no matter where they end up in the standings. “He’s a dog. Take a look at what games Grigorenko gets his points. He gets a handful the other night against PEI. none at Moncton, and one assist (in the nationally televised game) in Saint John. A couple of weeks ago in Rimouski he’s minus 6. He scares the (crap) out of me.” While there’s no denying his skill level, and his 73 points in 39 games as a QMJHL rookie are a testament to his offensive abilities, there will be a lot of teams watching him closely in the playoffs to see whether he has the competitive streak scouts like to see in their top five prospects. As of right now a number of teams have several players ranked ahead of him, and that trend will continue if he does not learn to compete at a higher level.
Seriously hab fans, I don’t want us to risk drafting this guy at number 2 or 3 just because he’s a center.
Forsberg, Galchenyuk, and Faksa seem safer picks at the forward position.
j.p. murray
That quote’s been posted here for a while now. Another scout went on record and completely opposed that saying there is nothing wrong with Grigo’s work ethic at all. Who knows which is correct?
I’m hoping Timmins and Co. are doing their own scouting and will make the right choice. Except for Yakupov who every scout has as their #1 hands down (and for over a year now), there doesn’t seem to be much consensus at all with the ranking of this year’s draft crop.
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Trust in Timmins.
That I do, shiram. That I do.
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We all have to!
This has been up on the TSN site for a while now. It’s just one point of view, and there are plenty of other assessments of Grigorenko that say the exact opposite. so basically the picture of him is a little murky.
i wouldn’t advise swallowing a single article from TSN whole and believing it uncritically, much less form an entire opinion based just on that.
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Higgins is not banned.
Chris Higgins is a banned word.
Chris Higgins is a banned word.
QUESTION:
Assume Habs have the 3rd overall pick in the 2012 draft and a new GM at the helm. Which of these options would you “recommend” he do:
a) Draft the best available player, whether it be Fwd or D, big or small.
b) draft a big center
c) draft the best Fwd available
d) attempt to package the 3rd overall pick, with a prospect and roster center-man (Pleks, Eller, or DD) for a proven Number One Center
e) none of the above, here is my suggestion ____________.
C
Trade for an established No 1 or 2 Dman.
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
e) Select Yakupov if he is available, else take Alex Galchenyuk.
With Subban, Emellin, Beaulieu, Tinordi, and Ellis in our system I believe we should draft the best forward available.
Leblanc, Pacioretty, and Eller are the only sizeable young forwards in our system that seem sure NHL offensive types. We clearly need help up-front and teams don’t want to trade their big centers away. Drafting this high, we could pick-up a forward who goes straight to the NHL.
*Note: Avoid Grigorenko like the plague!
Forsberg, Galchenyuk, and Faksa are my top choices.
j.p. murray
Draft could be as high as high as #2 and in that case, GRIGORENKO, MIKHAIL. #3 FAKSA, RADEK. We won’t go any lower unless lightning strikes. Either one of those picks is the best the Habs can do at the centre / forward position which is the immediate need. No D required at this time.
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A.
Brian Burke is doing such a great job compared to PG/Gainey.
Connolly, Grabs, Phaneuf, Komi, Liles, Schenn, Kessel. 34.5 Million. 0.54 points per game on average.
Gomez, Pleks, Kaberle, Gorges, MaxPac, Cole, Gio. 31.55 million. 0.52 points per game on average.
Habs have 184 goals against, Leafs have 201.
0.02 points average is not much, and that’s mostly on Gomez…
Sorry Shiram, but if you look at the list Joeybarrie has included 4 defensemen from Toronto (and we know Komi does not put up points) and only one from Montreal (who gets a decent amount of points.
I think we lose this comparison…
Habs D certainly are not scoring enough.
true, but he didn’t even include them. He used 6 of our forwards (granted one is Gomez and the other is Gio who has been hurt all year).
Meh, I just think both GM have not done exactly well recently.
Considering they both fired their head coach this season, Habs not making the playoffs, and Leafs on the line…
Servers were…
…not working…
…properly.
Only one D from Montreal? I see Gorges up there who is extremely defensive and not a point-getter at all. Not to take away from your point, just thought it should be noted.
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Yup, my mistake. I glossed over Gorges (as most people often do).
Kaberle. And I wanted to include our high salary, low point production to drive my point home even further. Didn’t think it fair to include Weber. Tried to go with top line minus one, and the rest donuts big contracts. I could’ve left out Gomez too.
Well if were going to play that game….St.Louis has scored one less goal than the habs, yet Price always loses cause the habs dont score.
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
Pfft. you under-rate the Habs. They destroyed the Red Wings.
I’ll give Jaro credit – he’s got a lot of 1-0 shutouts this year. He also have a much more experienced, larger, and more physical D corps and a system less prone to cracking than the Martin/Cunneyworth regime has designed. But hey, he’s still got to stop the pucks and he’s done that.
The facts on Price’s season speak for themselves – in 17 of his 25 L’s, Habs have scored 1 or none. I’d love it if he had 17 shutouts, but that’s just not a realistic expectation.
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you mean 17 MORE shutouts.. and some of those games would have went to a shootout..
I realize that, thats why I said ‘as long were going to play that game’, cause its impossible to compare. Many factors can affect different players.
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
Absolutely. Wasn’t sure if being sarcastic or serious, though, and y’all know me and my Price-bot ways. LOL
Blues are doing well and they are going to scare some teams in the West in the post-season, regardless of which goalie they go with between the pipes.
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Anybody up for line combos? This is the Bob Gainey squandering assets line-up. It is the slap to the face of all the work Trevor Timmins has done. It is the taking for granted Habs fans because the brain trust in charge hasn’t a clue how to build a championship team.
Ready? It isn’t pretty. Oh the line-up is good. It’s that the Habs management are tinkerers hell bent on breaking something that could have been working fine.
Max Pacioretty – Mike Ribeiro – Michael Ryder
Chr1s H1gg1ns – Tomas Plekanec – Guillaume Latendresse
Sergei Kostitsyn – Mikhail Grabovski – Andrei Kostitsyn
Ryan White – David Desharnais – Matt D’Agostini
Maxime Lapierre
Ryan McDonagh – P.K. Subban
Mark Streit – Ryan O’Byrne
Mike Komisarek – Andrei Markov
Yannick Weber
Carey Price
Jaroslav Halak
cripes
No Lapierre, Moore and Moen line? Have I not mentioned enough that it was the best line in the 2010 playoffs for any team?
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
I think the players HH listed, and the point of his post, was to show all the Habs drafted players who we’ve let get away. Moore and Moen weren’t drafted by us so do not qualify, and the 4 C’s he listed are all better than Lappy.
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Forgot Laps. Will add as the 13th forward.
LOL – brutal.
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Pleks line SUCKKKKKSSSSSSSS!!! C’Mon Man!! first RC gives him scraps now you?????? Poor Pleks! Check your inbox, his agent just wrote you a nasty nasty email.
not cool man. not cool.
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You know I’m no good.
The only one in that lineup I’d want back (and originally hated trading) is Ryder.
not even McDonough eh?
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sorry was referring to the forwards in that lineup.
With regards to the D corps., I would take McDonough and O’byrne back in a heartbeat.
Really? OB was and is pretty brutal and we got Bournival in that deal. I’d much rather have Streit back than OB.
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@Mike D
I would prefer OB as a 5th or 6th defenseman over Campoli or Weber.
@habs-fan-84
OB and Campoli are both useless. Weber hasn’t been good but I’m hoping he can develop into a good player since he’s still young.
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Last I looked, Pleks, Pac, White, DD, PK, Markov, Weber and Price are still on the Habs.
Do you just want to trade the whole team as well as throw out all the management (except Timmons)? Is that so they would hire you, the self-proclaimed genius of HIO? Too funny.
C’mon HH, you’re better than that.
O’Byrne’s brutal. Komi played well with us and Markov, but he’s totally fallen off the map. There was no way either goalie would have been happy with that situation as both wanted to be starters. Pretty sure SK and Grabo hate each other so no way being on the same team would have worked, let alone on the same line. Guimoverweight Tenderness is always hurt and acted like a little b*tch. Higs is a good 3rd liner but definitely not a 2nd. Dags is ‘meh’ at best.
The only guys you listed that I would still like to have are Ryder, McD, and Streit.
You are absolutely correct about Timmins being excellent at what he does though. Very happy we have him on board.
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This lineup is a bubble team as well. Also, boy you must hate Pleks to put him with those 2. I like Higgins but he never reached his potential and Guillaume is….well yeah he’s nothing special either when he isn’t hurt and out of shape.
change komi for beachemin and o’byrne for hainsey
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Good point!
“May you live in interesting times.”
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It appears you have an extra forward on this line combo.
they are going to rotate one forward in and out. I like the “f” line, because the are “f”orwards.
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So what is up HIO’s anal retentive ass today? Can’t post comments with Jaroslav Halak in it?
Chris Higgins
honestly that happens to me at least once a week. can’t post anything. HIO has awful servers. It’s like the Habs. Shoddy product, but we keep coming back.
hmmm responded to HH and he dissappeared, he must have that virus again.
Max Pacioretty – Mike Ribeiro – Michael Ryder
Chris Higgins – Tomas Plekanec – Guillaume Latendresse
Sergei Kostitsyn – Mikhail Grabovski – Andrei Kostitsyn
Ryan White – David Desharnais – Matt D’Agostini
Ryan McDonagh – P.K. Subban
Mark Streit – Ryan O’Byrne
Mike Komisarek – Andrei Markov
Yannick Weber
Carey Price
Jaroslav Halak
This is a test!!!
This is retarded. I am trying to post line combos of ex-Habs and it wont show.
Max Pacioretty – Mike Ribeiro – Michael Ryder
Chris Higgins – Tomas Plekanec – Guillaume Latendresse
Tragic…..
Well, 2 posts just showed up. Nasty, too. Some secret mod must have it in for him. Could it be…..Berkshire?
I don’t know, some of those STD’s out there are nasty, you never know what someone may pick up in that Dark Tank World.
No. Seems like Chr1s H1gg1ns is a dirty word.
I tested it out…
You can post Higgins just fine, but if you had his first name you get this :
Your edited comment was marked as spam. If this is in error, please contact the admin. – Close
Higgins alone is fine.
Higgins
I tried it out, it is indeed a no-no word.
weird stuff.
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I’d be shocked if Florida traded Huburdeau. They’re not going to draft that high this year, why would you trade an elite scoring winger on a team that is still telling their fans that they’re rebuilding?
Because Habs fans have exited the realm of reality and have entered the world of fantasy. Don’t you know that the Habs are going to trade Nokia, Weber and Kablerle for Malkin?
Eller and Weber for Getzlaf! But we’re getting ripped off
they should throw Plekanec and 2 first in there aswell.
So Toronto gave Grabo 5.5 over 5 years, that is more than they currently pay Kessel who has 2 years remaining. That would be too bad if Kessel got his nose out of joint being paid less.
Salaries seem to have taken quite a hike up this season.
Of course NHL revenues are up too, so the cap will rise, but still, it’s an alarming trend.
Yah I just read somewhere yesterday they expect the cap to go up again next season. Have to believe the difference in Atlanta in Wpg is one part of that continual escalation in revenues. If they ever move Phoenix to a hockey market it will continue to trend.
Makes you wonder what will happen at CBA negotiation, players currently have it pretty good, but the owners once again are outspending each other and shooting themselves in the foot. Same old same old.
Glen Healy (he’s a moron but one who’s very plugged into the PA) said the NHL will definitely ask for a salary roll back again. Should be interesting.
Revenues are up, and the cap is tied to that. But for the next CBA, owners want to have a bigger share of the revenues, so it will be interesting to see how the cap is affected.
It seems this year everyone is overpaying to keep their players, the free agent pool is just not impressive.
Should be interesting to hear those Kessel negotiations. If Grabs is worth 5.5, then Kessel’s agent will surely be shooting for 7+.
27.5 mil? And people here say how smart Burke is compared to Habs management. Hahahahahahahahhahahahahah!
Unlike alot of posters on here, I really look forward to the World Championship Tourney. The hockey is fast and exciting. generally speaking, the talent is not watered down…mostly NHLers on the big 5 teams. With the Habs out of the playoffs this year, I think I’m looking forward to it a little more. Can’t wait.
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Well its also the only way to see any Habs play past April!
5.5 for Grabovski. Makes that Pleks contract a steal.
5.5 for a 25 goal scorer. 5’11. 28.
overpaid by at least a million. And even then. Making more than Lupul and kessel.
going to be very difficult to fill the team out under the cap and I can’t wait to see how much they are gonna have to pay Kessel and Lupul, in 2 and 3 seasons.
7 million left now for the leafs to sign 5 players. Ones that will help them get into the playoffs.
to me, looks like the same old Leafs. Plateaued.
I’d look for Komisarek to be in the minors next season. Add another 4.5 to work with.
How can a team demote an alternate captain. Even make him a healthy scratch for more than a few games?
What kind of message does it send?
Wasn’t Gomez an alternate at one point? You don’t want the Habs to send him to the minors?
Komisarek has a No Movement and a No Trade Clause. He is not heading to the minors. That is why the Leafs got rid of Aulie already, they can’t move Komo.
ah good point. forgot about that.
I don’t think 5.5 is ridiculous for Grabo given how important he is to the Leafs. The issue is the term, 5 years, will he stay motivated? What hurts the Leafs is the Komisarek, Connoly, Schenn contracts as long as they aren’t producing. Not unlike our contracts to Gomez, Markov currently. Hopefully Markov shows he is back, and we unload somehow someway Gomez this summer.
Smart thing they did with Connolly was to make it short term (2 or 3 years if i recall correctly).
Agree, only 1 more season remaining. Was a calculated risk by Burke, but only a 2 season problem if it doesn’t work.
Player salaries are going up really fast this year.
Hemsky, Ruutu and now Grabo.
5.5 millions is not much of an overpayment, but it points towards a trend.
Yeah i agree. Also teams are realizing now, if i let this player go, how much will it cost me to replace him? That’s causing them to slightly overpay. better the devil you know than the one you don’t (IE: KABERLE)
for five years too
In the ESPN.NHL team power rankings this week, Habs are dead last at # 30. The Hockey News player poll of top 50 players in the March 23rd issue, number of Habs in top 50, ZERO. That about says it all. The franchise has hit rock bottom and until Molson replaces PG, RC and the rest of the band of idiots running the team, fan interest will continue to dwindle. Unlike years past, there are plenty of other ways to spend your entertainment dollars than wasting them on a badly mismanaged hockey team.
I’m surprised Carey isn’t in the top 50.
We’ve got a long way to go before ‘rock bottom’. That would take winning only 3 of the remaining games to equal that wonderful 28-win season from the turn of the millennium.
I bought a pair of tickets off a scalper the other day. They were listed at $325 per ticket and I got the pair for $150 . That’s less than 25% face value. What does that tell you?
They’re fake?
no they were front and centre in the desjardain section. i can understand why no one wnats to pay that much for free hot dogs but still…
Must see Cammy video…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2ICesMkUmBs#!
Which Canadiens players, if any, do you want to see competing at the World Championhips?
Canada: Carey Price, Josh Gorges, PK Subban
USA: Max Pacioretty
Czech Republic: Tomas Plekanec
Russia: Alexei Emelin and….if he plays 10+ games for the Habs with no ill effects, Andrei Markov
Switzerland: Raphael Diaz
Anyone else?
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Actually, I’d rather see none of them play at the WC. Really tired of seeing Habs injured this year and would definitely hate it if any of them were hurt playing in a meaningless tournament.
Personally in my mind the only thing that Markov needs right now are hockey games. Sitting and reHABbing for another 4 months won’t help. He needs to get game fit.
if won’t make it thru the worlds what is he going to accomplish forums next season?
I look forward to him playing in the Worlds, should be just the tonic (vodka) he needs!
Edit: But I have read countless times here that he is useless, washed up and no good, so based on that I don’t think Russia will even ask him to play.
I’ve got no problem with him playing at the Worlds. There’s an equal chance that he could be re-injured during the preseason schedule… a game’s a game. Considering the time that he’s missed, I’d look at it as a head start on training camp.
In 100% agreement with you Chuck. Let him gain his confidence back, and hopefully silence a certain population here.
Definitely Eller for Denmark, Weber probably for Switzerland too, Erik Cole for Team USA and why not Desharnais for Canada?
Erik Cole is an American. Weber will probably play for Switzerland. Unless the field is very, very thin at centre, I wouldn’t expect to see Gomer or DD playing at the worlds.
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Desharnais will have 60+ points at the end of the season. I really doubt Canada will find three more productive centers.
Don’t get me wrong, I like DD alot, but they will go with experience over numbers and DD is light on experience.
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It would be amazing if Gomez played at the worlds and lit it up. One can pray, hope whatever we want to term it!
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WE need goal scorers, the way i see it.. we are strong up the middle right now. With DD, Pleks, and Eller. We need to find two more #67′s and 72′s …..Gionta is truly missed cause he gives it his all each and every game. We need to find ourselves a 40 goal scoring winger to go with pleks & gionta next yr.
67-51-72
21-14-ufa
27-81-32
Right now we have too many people filling the same roles…45,15,53,11,60,71,57,25……all the same kind of effort and results with these guys.
Find a 40 goal scorer? Great idea. Stamkos aside, Malkin is the only one who´ll definitely have 40 goals at the end of the season. Overall there will be less than ten 40 goal scorers this season… If Pacioretty scores 30, Gionta and Cole 25 and Bourque 20, we´ll be okay. I also don´t know why everyone thinks Pacioretty, Desharnais and Cole will be our top line next season…
Why wouldn’t they be the top line? I don’t see any other line on the team that could produce more than that line.
The Flames may suck at home and play poorly against the East but we’ve also shown we’re often the tonic for a team’s woes — think of the Leafs, Caps and Devils recently.
I’d like a win as much as the next guy but I’m ok with the second overall pick in the draft, too (it seems wasted on Edmonton). Vive le char (tank)!
I’ll be at the game tonight with the usual strong support of many hab fans. They’ve been tough to watch in recent years when they go on their western road trip. This edition has had trouble being motivated when they have something to play for – I shudder at the outcome of tonight when there is nothing to play for – even with Calgary’s depleted team….
Cammi played center in LA…I often wondered why we never tried him out in MOntreal…tehy just assumed he couldn’t play the defensive system I guess and the fact he was our best goalscroer probably played a role as well. It used to get disucssed on here a lot the first year and up until last year on here…then it became apparent that no matter how poor Gomez played that Cammi was not going to get a shot up the middle.
AK at center could have been a possibility as well. Good puck handler. At least they could have tried it. Who knows? Anyway, too late now.
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The only way this team can compete in the next few years is if they can find a trading partner for their 1st overall pick (In a package including either Eller or Plekanec.. and a prospect). Also, the return would have to be an elite Number One Center.
Markov becoming healthy would also be HUGE. Many forget what he brings, one of the best PP qb’s in the league.. and his little backwards shootout backhander move haha
If Markov doesn’t come back we’re doomed. Look at the free agent list for 2012
http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2011/11/09/2012-nhl-free-agents-unrestricted-defensemen/
We would need to trade to replace him. What’s that going to cost us?
Been awhile since I saw the Classic “doomed” always love that term and how bad things are going to be when used.
didn’t meant to panic. what i meant to say is if markov doesn’t come back there’s a reasonable chance we’ll be able to sustain our current performance.
No wories nellis, I just love the expression it is so descriptive. Reality is, if indeed Markov cannot come back, doomed is not far from the truth. I am hopeful he will be fine, but if not DOOMED!
http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8468490
Interesting!
? what is the relevance of this? a stat line for some guy named Mikahil Yakubov? what is the relevance that is name is one letter different from Yakupov? did I miss something on here?
with good goaltending the Habs can beat Calgary
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Flames -1?
How does good goaltending produce goals?
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Another team that did what Edmonton is doing….Pittsburgh! Marc-Andre Fleury 1st overall, Malkin 2nd overall, Crosby, first overall, Staal 2nd overall. All in consecutive years. One way to rebuild I guess
So did the Islanders, Panthers, Thrashers/Jets, Columbus… Teams that haven’t.. NYR, Boston, Philly, Detroit, Vancouver, NJ, San Jose.
Cammy’s out because he’s afraid.
Afraid of getting hit by Emelin.
Edmonton keeps on losing, suprise suprise…… Two 1st overall draft picks in a row and they still cant get out of the basement. Shouldnt they have some MINIMAL improvement by now? Theyll probably draft grigorenko and fail to identify the obvious flaws on the blueline.
Wait. I thought if you tank, you wind up with a cup soon thereafter.
Their young forwards (recently drafted) are not the problem… They have no D or goalie
That is why I suggested we loan them Price until the end of the season…. get them on a winning streak.
The Squid has turned Turtle. Not surprising after calling your team a bunch of losers and not exactly lighting it up yourself. Prima Donna sissy!!!
Did anyone catch cammy on mr d last night? if so, did it look like it was dubbed over to say he played for the flames?
Interesting fact that Andrei Markov was a 6th round, 162nd overall draft pick. Kind of like our Datsyuk-lite.
“May you live in interesting times.”
We do hit on some later-round picks, but the repeated misses in the first round really kill us. Looking at the dearth of talent now in Hamilton and on the Canadiens is due in large part to misses in the first round and not having second-rounders, where we usually pick up some decent players, when we have picks.
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Agreed. Also, Jaroslave Halak, 9th round, 271st overall. When he was with us, kinda like our Luc Robitaille-lite.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Good Morning and welcome to Calgary. Too bad about Cammy but he stayed healthier longer than I expected. Wouldn’t you know that he be out just in time for this one. I’ve been looking forward to tonight since September when tix went on sale and we get to be inside this year. GO HABS GO!
“Merci beaucoup.” Randy Cunnyworth
Seems HIO posters have hit a wall! SurreyPal is posting at 3AM, and even Mr. Hackel is carrying the ball at 5:43 Calgary time. And….the past couple of days have been dull, and full of platitudes. ( Boston sucks!). So…with about 16 games to go, I’d like to give an early synopsis of a regrettable year.
Plusses start with the acquisition of Eric Cole. I was a pessimist, but now I feel he is our best ever UFA signing. David Desharnais is the type of underdog we all root for. Movies are made based on his type of overachieving. Max Pacioretty (seems Max is his full first name) played superbly: hopefully, he will continue to improve. Josh Gorges returned to play very well, after knee reconstruction; this has been his best season. That’s it. For the rest of the team, many of whom I’m a big fan of, the highest grade I can give any of them is a C. I’m not forgetting the rookie defenceman, the sophomore, nor our All-Star. The Great Dane’s 4 goal night reminded me of Claude Larose’s 4 goal night. However Larose followed up with a hat-trick game, eight goals in three games and 26 goals for the year. I think he got to play right wing with the incomparable Jean Beliveau that season. Larose also didn’t have a penchant for highsticking late in games. Hopefully, next year’s group of coaches can correct Eller’s “schtick.”
“May you live in interesting times.”
Hockey analysts what a joke. On trade day they report what they are told. This year was a real joke as they guessed on Nash and prayed he was going to Toronto. I am some middle class nobody who can’t be farther from the NHL and I knew he wasn’t going to Toronto. It’s the same with reporting on the NHL. All stories are reported after the news is out and one story, all papers and TV shows just recycle the same trash. I said Markov would be back playing in two weeks and nobody reported that. That’s not becuase I have a insider. It’s because i have a brain in my head and I am not spoon feed what I think or write.
Nobody said he was going to Toronto. It was reported Toronto was on his list, which was true, and they made a pitch, but refused to part with Gardiner.
It was the Rangers who were the closest. In the end Columbus turned down an offer of Dubinsky, prospects JT miller, Christian Thomas, Tim Erixon, and a 1st round pick.
My question of the day is: do hockey analysts really have their own opinions or do they just toe the company lines with their buddy teams/GMs? I say this not just cause of the media induced Carey Price mirage of greatness, but also with regards to Desharnais. Its interesting that at the beginning of the year, the only thing they said about him was his skating wasn’t great, his lack of size, would have trouble making it in the NHL even as a 4th line centre. Now I doubt any of them ever took much time to see him in Hamilton, so where did the opinion that they all shared come from? And how come not one raved about his playmaking? Why is it only Pacioretty that said good things about him in the beginning?
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
Probably based on the fact that everyone said he would never make it… Midget, Junior, East Coast, AHL…
I’m happy he’s proving everyone that he is a great and maybe, maybe, a gifted player.
Also proves that Habs should always look at what they have in their backward. Even if the guy was not drafted.
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Canadien en 5!
Never go Full Retard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related
Mirage of greatness?
Go Habs Go!!
“Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock
I think the problem with most analysts is the love affair with numbers. Things like stats and size become the #1 ranking system used.
A player like Desharnais, due to size and not road runner speed almost immediately is pigeonholed. This will always be the case with the undersized player, especially if not drafted by an NHL club.
As for Price and the mirage, I think many people on this site focus only on the shortcomings of our team. When I talk to many of my friends who happen to be fans of Boston, Toronto, Detroit and a few others, all of them comment on how much they like Price and feel he is one of the best goalies in the NHL.
Our team right now is flat out terrible, our defence core has 3 NHL calibre dmen on it and yet people get frustrated that Carey isn’t stealing wins for the team. Sure he like all goalies lets in some goals he would like to have back, but every goalie in the league has that. But here people only focus on the mistakes made by Carey. Just my opinion, not directed specifically at you Cat, and I think you raised an excellent question/point regarding hockey analysts and the way they toe the company line.
I love the fact that Desharnais is making it despite all of the criticism he has had to face. I think that Carey Price is a very good NHL caliber goaltender, and of course all goalies do let in some shots that just should not get past them. What bothers me is that the media tends to make a big deal out of virtually every stop he makes. He is very good but he is not Jacques Plante, Ken Dryden, and Patrick Roy all wrapped into one as the media would like to have us believe. His positional play is probably as good as anyone in the NHL right now but he sure could improve in the shootouts. I would also like to see better concentration early in the games when he seems to have a tendency to let in weak goals.
Our team learning to score in shootouts would dramatically help him in shootouts.
At this time last year, we had Roman Hamrlik, James Wisniewski, Jaroslav Spacek, and Hal Gill. Explains much.
“May you live in interesting times.”
Well well… Seems like he might be scared of some of our guys. I guess he was really hated in the room and now he’s scared of the consequences.
I don’t care if Bourque is lazy. I prefer Bourque over this selfish overpaid “scorer”
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Canadien en 5!
Never go Full Retard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related
Cammy out? Gionta out? This tells that “smurfs” are really fragile on our team even when Cammy was on our team.
We need to get bigger on our club and small and skilled players to assemble an NHL team like we did was an experiment that was a disaster! Thanks BG!
The only exception is Desharnis, who is built like a horse and this guy would be on my team in a heartbeat.
As for Markov coming back soon, who cares? The guy is getting older and IMO, is he really going to make a difference next year for us? Is he going to play like the old Markov?
Whoever is the GM of our club this summer, package Markov in a blockbuster trade and get the big skilled CMan we need on this team.
Tank I say! Tank!
“We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “
Playing center put him right in the traffic u right those guys don’t last both Gomez and Gio pay the price for they rings and they are done small player’s have shorter career and Cammy will be shorter as he is birtles
I really hope they crank up their intensity and toughness a notch (maybe add a little intimidation in there to boot) or else I’m afraid this will be a hopeless road trip for yours truly. Let’s hope Bourque can get in there a score a few.
He may have ticked off a few players in our dressing room…The guy may have a touch of the “Montreal Flu”..The guy is yellow, I tell ya..
Just strange that he has an “upper body injury” and nobody can confirm when it happened…..Hmmmmmmm
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Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?
I do wonder if perhaps he has a concussion, seems when players get a mysterious upper body injury no one can identify we find out later it was concussion. Speaking of which Seems that is probably what Travis Moen may be suffering from.
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…in Red Light, I enjoy Your taste in music Stu …any reason why You don’t include some tunes in HIO ?
…as in, a little ‘Otis’ ?
Thank, HiS. No, there’s no particular conscious reason I don’t put music on my HIO posts (I’ve done it once or twice, but mostly don’t). I often write these late at night and to take another 15-30 minutes to find the appropriate song would keep me from going to sleep, but that’s not the reason. Maybe it’s more that I write these differently than the SI.com posts, which are more theme based, and it’s easier to come up with a song for them. These are team based, and I’m just not thinking about songs while I’m writing them. I guess I’d throw one in if it came to me, but that just doesn’t seem to happen.
Great scouting report as usual, Mr. Hackel, he said, doing his best PG imitation.
Thanks, Mr. Cal.
…Mike an effective centre ??? …now WHY ??? was not THAT experimented with in Montreal ???
…another perplexing question I just throw My hands in the air trying to rationalize how Our Habs’ Coaches seem so tunnel-visioned
…if it’s do-able in Cowtown, ain’t it do-able in Poutineville ???
…AND, WHAT ??? is Leafer Boonez doin’ on the road ??? …scouting for the leafs ???
Because the management hasnt drafted or traded to have a good mix. Its like Latendresse, he wasnt a hard hitting power forward ever in his hockey life, hes a sniper, but the habs had a need and they tried to convert him into one.
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
…after 60 years as a Habs’ Fan, I ain’t goin’ anywhere …but, there are times (uncountable times in the past 20+ years) when I wonder where the unique hockey creativity and fundamental ‘smarts’ of Our Team has disappeared
…PostScript: don’t bother explaining ‘where’ it went, or ‘why’ …I already know …but, THAT does not keep Me from continuously askin’ Myself
it was just the angle from behind her head and the way her head was moving. looked to me like they had a whole habs/leaf thing they had to change. i liked the walk like a pretty boy thing. he really does.
The cut to Cammy’s face when she said Calgary, but didn’t correct it when the principal mentioned his hat-trick for the Habs.
In fairness to Eller, he spent all last season unable to do much recovering from Shoulder surgery. I think provided he goes into the offseason relatively healthy we should see a spike in strength and conditioning.
But he did add some muscle in the last off-season, and his even strenght #’s are pretty good compared to Pleks and DD, considering Eller gets less time, and usually lesser wingers.
If he can get another 5-7lbs on that frame will be very helpful. I like the guy and given the role he has had to play on this team, there is still much upside.
Sure, the more the better. The guy is still quite young, and has alot of upside. Hopefully the team (and fans) are patient enough with him, so he can play to his best,
Are you out of your mind? Plekanec AND a Top-3 pick for Huberdeau?