Rookie camp opens Monday afternoon in Brossard.
The Canadiens annnual golf tournament tees off Wednesday morning at the posh Laval-sur-le-Lac club.
Thursday is an off day, then training camp starts Friday.
HOCKEY!
At last.
HIO will be at rookie camp. Check back for late-day updates.
• Red Fisher on the hockey family reaching out
• Season can’t start soon enough
• Globe & Mail assesses Canadian teams
• Michäel Bournival: five goals already
• Hab fever at the Toronto Film Festival
• Doughty rejects latest Kings offer
• Dennis Kane on the great 1978 season
Today’s pump-up video:
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The only two reasons I can come up with is for Drew Doughty turning down the Kings’ contract offer is that either he wants to force his way out, which is not supported by any evidence, or that he must be asking for it to be so front loaded that the team is balking. With a lockout looming next season, he might be asking for a huge signing bonus this season, that would pay him two or three years’ worth this season and comparatively little over the next two seasons.
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How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?
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On the rules (re:Marc Savard) for having a player’s name engraved on the cup, from NHL.com:
Prior to 1977 only players who had completed the Stanley Cup playoffs were eligible. Today, players appearing in 41 regular-season games or one Stanley Cup Final game for the championship team have their names engraved on the Cup. Since 1994, the NHL makes exceptions for players who do not meet the standard because of injury or other extenuating circumstances.
NHL rules are as soft as wet spaghetti .
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
100%
From Engels: “Marc Savard remains sidelined by concussion issues– and it’s been announced he will miss the entirety of the 2011-12 season. Though his salary counts against the Bruins cap, they do have the flexibility to replace him on the roster with a player(s) of lesser or equal value (in terms of salary) without penalty. “
Put me down as one guy who didn’t know this is how it works. I thought an injury was cap space right off the books. But you have to replace him to get that releif?
You don’t HAVE to replace him to get that relief, you’re basically allowed to go over the cap by what his salary is worth. So essentially the effect is it comes off the cap, but the difference is if the player comes back, that bonus is gone.
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On the Mac Savard discussion… Didn’t Cam Connor score an overtime winner in the semi-finals in the late ’70s, but didn’t play a game in the finals, so no name on the cup?
I could be wrong, but if this is correct, then how can Savard be on the cup?
The Bruins have a lot of pull in the executive offices of the NHL.
Kind of surprised Daddy Colon is doing this given he believes Savard is a little faker as he so eloquently put it in his emails to referees.
There was a discussion earlier today whether Marc Savard should have his name engraved on the Cup….I don’t have a problem with his name being on the Cup, the biggest joke was 9 members of the Ilitch family getting their names on the Cup in 2008…
http://www.hhof.com/htmlSTCjournal/exSCJ08_40.shtml
On the Poutine topic, there’s a little restaurent here in south Florida that was opened up by a couple from Quebec called the Dairy Belle, and the food is out of this world. Great poutine, milkshakes, burgers ect. I highly recomend if you’re ever in Florida for vacation.
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/MiamiU_bucket/menu0001.jpg
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii174/MiamiU_bucket/menuback0001.jpg
So how are the curds?
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awesome man. this place is a must if you want a taste of Quebec while in Florida. I’d eat there every day if I was closer.
I’ve already been to Disney, and I’m not old enough to be a snowbird, but it’s cool to hear poutine is spreading over the globe.
My sister saw a poutine stand while visiting Vietnam, but it was not great poutine.
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Wow, Vietnam. Thats crazy.
It’s all the rage in Tokyo.
I can believe that, it seems alot of Asian countries really like the North American culture.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
In Melbourne, there’s a fries chain called Lord of the Fries (about 4 locations, all in Melbourne) that serves all vegetarian food including veggie dogs, veggieburgers, and of course a long list of different types of fries. One item on the list is called The French Canadian, and it is basically French fries with vegetarian gravy and mozzarella cheese. Not real poutine, but if you have a craving while in Australia, it was still very tasty. The dogs and burgers were also excellent.
If it’s not curds it’s not poutine, more like disco fries if it uses mozzarella.
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Hence “Not real poutine, but if you have a craving while in Australia, it was still very tasty.”
It was the closest thing I found to poutine during my brief stint in that part of the world, though. Also, as a vegetarian, it was definitely a most welcome treat!
not well. Since the iraq war they are getting a lot of hostility from turks and the western border of turkey is in dispute. On the upside, the curds have their own oil and a fairly advanced culture compared to the rest of… what? Not those curds? Oh crap… sorry…
You can’t tell me that Sean Burke should be on a high-ranking goalie list that doesn’t include Ken Dryden. I think they need to modify their criteria.
As for the T.O. festival, I had found Keira Knightley overrated in the Pirates movies, but she’s in my books now. She could put on a few pounds though.
eff that noise, the winner is the thinner
Kiera had no clue about the Habs, it’s Viggo that got her to put on the Habs jersey to annoy their director.
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I read that. It’s just another feather…
Yeah, Viggo is by far my favourite actor. Unabashed Habs fans in the limelight are the best.
We all love Ken Dryden for what he did for the Habs, but if you actually read how the list is assembled, it’s based on goalies who won games for teams. Next, read Dryden’s ‘The Game’ and realize how little he had to actually do to win games on the teams he played for. If anything, this list is the only way Burke’s name appears on the same sheet as Roy.
You’re right. An oversight on my behalf. And I did read The Game. In my opinion, the best book on hockey. And as always, Dryden is very humble in his view of his performance, always gracing his team. But if you saw him play…..unbelievable. In an era where the butterfly didn’t exist, and standing on stilts, he was simply amazing. Personally, he’s the best goalie I’ve ever seen, and they’ve won 14 cups in my lifetime (although I vaguely remember the victories when I was a newborn, and 1, and not much more when I was 5 and 6 years old.)
Ken Dryden is far too humble. There has never been a better goaltender at being able to follow the play for 10 minutes at a time without a shot, only to then stop a breakaway. One of the hardest things for a goaltender to do is to watch the other goalie getting peppered with shots while you do nothing. It is a rare gift to be able to maintain your concentration and focus on the puck in fear that when the puck finally comes in to your end, you will let 1 in and be the goat. Dryden was great at at. Although not always busy, he made the big saves when called upon.
OK, since there’s no hockey news and the poutine debate has run its course (I still say Frite Alors for regular poutine and Au Pied de Cochon for out of this world), how about best Portuguese grilled chicken. Chez Doval, Portugalia or Romados?
For me its Portugalia (Clark and Rachel) which has maybe the best chicken I’ve ever tasted, although there’s a bistro in Paris that supposedly has the best in the world but I’ve never eaten there. The problem is you need to order a good 60 min in advance. Romados (De Bullion and Rachel) is a good backup option.
Na Brasa on Duluth. Great mussels too. And the fries are very good.
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pied de cochon is just fricking OBSCENE though lol
Chez Doval, cause I can’t get around it anytime i’m in town cause it’s my dad’s favourite. But actually there’s one close to Drolet/Jean-Talon, which I go to with my friend often times before we catch a game at his place or ms. villeray. Don’t know the name of that place but it’s good.
I second Chez Doval. Have you tried the sardines for an appetizer?
But I’m already too fat…
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Coco Rico (3907 Boulevard Saint-Laurent) is pretty good if you want something ASAP.
But Portugalia rocks!!!!
I second Coco Rico!
“There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
- Jerry Maguire
Coco Rico got me through residency.
Never miss a chance to eat at Coco Rico when I visit my daughter at McGill.
Apparently Marc Savard’s name will be inscribed on the Cup. It this the right thing to do?
Given we don’t live in a world of absolutes, and notin’ there’s all sorts of room for discretion when it comes to this stuff, it doesn’t seem the wrong thing to do.
In particular for a talented player whose career was cut way short.
I understand why they are doing it but I don’t agree with it. Reason being why not put a players names on it that were traded half way through the season. They would have played more games than Savard did.
There have been other similar cases. Vladimir Konstantinov of the Red Wings got his name on the cup despite having died in a car crash the previous summer.
Konstantinov was badly injured in a car crash but did not die – He came onto the ice after The Wings won The Cup the following season seating in a wheel chair……
i was gonna say
minor detail, you guys have to always point out such things….lol
The NHL had a moral obligation to put Savard’s name on the Cup seeing how badly “Hockey Dad” Colon Campbell screwed up the whole Cooke hit on him in the first place.
I thought it was just a hockey play?
Normally I would say this is the right thing to do. However, given it involves the Bruins and this is another example of special dispensation to the Bruins organization from NHL Head Office, I am completely against it. Sorry Mr. Savard, nothing personal but I hate the Bruins, and hate even more that Gary Bettman is often seen under the desk of Jeremy Jacobs.
Also, doe this then mean that Richard Peddie will now get his name on the cup if the Leafs ever win it, even if it is Year 2067?
+1 – Totally agree
He was taken out by a cheap shot and I do feel bad for him but he shouldn’t have his name on the cup.
This is just all for PR
I don’t feel bad for any bruins out there. They get what they give. As for Savards name on the cup… couldn’t care less. He knows that he had nothing to do with it, so does everybody else. The fact that his name is on it won’t change the fact that he contributed nothing to getting that cup. Daddy Colin did, but not Savard.
I have no problem with Savard or Bergeron for that matter. Yes, they are on a goon team but I have never seen either player cheap shot anyone on purpose and they don’t yip to the media either.
I have met Savard a few times and he seems like a decent guy and I wouldn’t wish what happened to him on anyone
So his name will be on the cup, but he did not experience the playoff runs, the emotion, fatigue etc along with the experience.
So yea his name’s on the Cup, but he did not live it.
I don’t think his name should be on there…
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put his name on with an asterisk* – that will piss off both sides of the debate
If it was Marchand, I’d say let him rot. But seriously, Savard is a classy individual. And the circumstances are unusual.
I know this is not acceptance criteria, but had the Pens won the cup, should Sid the Kid’s name appear on it?
He’s a contributing player to the Stanley Cup winning team (I’m going through convulsions writing this), so it’s simply a question of due respect. Let him have his moment. It doesn’t change things in the grand scheme.
Crosby played half the games in the season, which I think is the criteria to get your name on the Cup.
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Is that how it works? Half the season, and no appearances in the playoffs?
I think it is yea, if you play half the season games, you can get your name on the Cup, someone may correct me, as it feels like a weird rule to me.
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Good stuff on Michael Bournival. At 19 years old, 6′, 190lbs, left-shootin’ center, and off to a torrid start with the Shawinigan Cataractes. Huge work ethic, projected as a third- or second-line center with a strong two-way game.
As it stands, a good depth move by PG. I liked OB and thought he had a great attitude – the anti-Guimauve of exit interviews – but can’t say the Habs’d be better of with him on the roster.
Les Glaucomes de Joliette?
I didn’t read the Kukla’s Corner link on goaltendin’ stats, and therefore didn’t take the time to interpret what career Goaltendin’ Point Shares (GPS) means, I just noticed Patrick Roy was #1 all-time, so it’s pretty clear to me that the article must be 100% bang on.
The Grope & Flail’s piece on Canada’s eastern teams isn’t really news to anyone around here, just a broad-brush overview for mass consumption. I get that. What I don’t get is this summary statement regardin’ the Sens’ outlook: “They could surprise and do well, or could all go horribly wrong and end up with decent odds in the Nail Yakupov sweepstakes.” Awkward syntax aside, my read on this is things will be good if they’re good and bad if they’re bad.
When did Red start writin’ season projections for the G&F?
Yakupov will wear jersey #10 for the Sens next season.
And the G&F story’s picture is Halak in a Habs uni, you know, “Halak who?” ‘n’ all that witty stuff, like referrin’ to the vacuum cleaner as a hoover.
Man, I can’t believe the Kings have such a spoiled jerkoff on their roster.
But I’m not hear to talk about Mike Richards. The Drew Doughty saga is interestin’ but just smacks of brinkmanship by Don “Brinkmanship” Meehan. My money’s on a one-year deal, just to let the dust settle. Meehan or not – who had Nabokov hold out on Lombardi in San Jose – I can’t believe Doughty will hold out. Imaginary Deity help us all if Poindexter Bentley has an epic season.
Congrats Mike Boone on yer broken Gazette Sports Section cherry.
And as a father of three, the return of B.C.’s three year-old Kienan Hebert to his otherwordly relieved parents is the right kind of story to end an otherwise very wrong week.
6′ tall and scoring goals! This is a serious fly in the ointment for all the members of the club which says we never get anything back for the players we get rid of.
Let’s see if he makes it up to a top 6 role in the NHL like most our forward giveaways have the last few years. I’d be happy to see the Habs show a great return on more trades. At least we have Eller, but that’s 1 out of about 6 in the PG era that we might’ve won.
sure if you dont look at the gorges and wiz trades
Or the D’agostini trade. Would any team WANT Matt D’agostini in their top 6? He was there in St. Louis because there was no one else.
http://twitter.com/andrewberkshire
Gorges wad a BG trade, not PG.
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So when we trade a Dman who was 7th on our depth chart when the team is healthy the player he is traded for has to become a top 6 forward or trade is bad? What if he is a top 9 forward.
We have LOTS of 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 forwards. It’s the 1,2,3 we need.
Hey there all, been away for a while; new job started up.
Missed Habs tix again… gutted. Have to spend a bunch to get myself to the Bell again this year.
Beh.
Something I just read to add to the ever-increasing pile of head-injury evidence: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/09/12/quebec-bishops-football-player-brain-injury.html
—Hope Springs Eternal—
See Punksters’ posts below… lots of useful tips.
I read that the Habs would put additionnal tickets on sale on each 15th of the month, so maybe you can try again at that time, though they probably will skip september.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
In other news
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/devils_in_the_red_Mi3p63lfff0OCTWRIdroxH
yeah we like to rag on the devils for having no fanbase but i didnt realize it had gotten THIS bad
holy caca
Who rags on the Devils? All I ever see people talk about concerning attendance is the Panthers or the Yotes. Yet the Devils have crap attendance year after year (despite icing very good teams) and I never hear anyone say squat about them.
i guess i have more rangers fans as friends than most
Maybe I haven’t ragged on them enough here. There attendance has been brutal for years. Even in playoffs they have had some bad attendance.
this is true… what sucks about it is the rock is an incredible venue… and the devils fans that i know and that ive met are nothing but class acts who, believe it or not, are passionate and quite knowledgeable about the game
They have one of the best fans all time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTJMtZWx29s
*like*
Kovalchuk winds up with the team?
Guys, you think JM does this, too?
Michael Vick’s Post-Game Wardrobe…
Say, Ash, how do you turn average, everyday, run-of-the-mill words and phrases to turn red and become links on this here thing?
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All I did was buy a Scott Gomez t-shirt last year. It’s enabled me unspeakable dark forces.
His mom bought the other one.
LMAO. Sockdals to boot! Classic.
I was getting pumped watching the video until I saw 2 goals by Lapierre. Lapierre’s been gone for awhile and there were no other scorers available?
But I still like to watch any Habs video Though.
Go! Hockey! Go!
Still pissed off for not getting 2 tix for the laffs game, with ton of them available at StubHub. (save it Punkster!)
That sounds more like an invite to Punkster to comment to me.
He doesn’t need an invite. He usually auto-invites himself when he feels like it.
Mike…Craigslist 15 minutes ago…why not give it a try.
Montreal Canadiens Hockey Tickets
Date: 2011-09-12, 12:13PM EDT
Reply to: sale-umpqz-2584012048@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
Pair of Free preseason game with the purchase of 2 regular
season games. Whites 330-CC
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Here’s another on linked from Craiglist:
http://www.ticketturbo.com/Tix.php?evtid=1671979&pid=691
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Maybe these on Craiglist Montreal. Search under Habs Leafs
Sep 12 – ▼▼▼▼▼▼▼LEAFS vs HABS: OCTOBER 22 – $15 – $150 (White Section) tickets – by owner
Sep 12 – ▼▼▼▼▼▼▼LEAFS vs HABS: OCTOBER 22 – $150 (White Section) tickets – by owner
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Or…
EBay
elitesportstours.ca
ticketsreview.com
ticketcity.com
broadrippletickets.com
gotickets.com
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Or…post an ad or message on Craiglist Montreal:
https://post.craigslist.org/k/ct-Dl1_d4BGPHL6BlnRiQw/9aZpO?s=type
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Or…post a comment on HI/O asking if anyone has 2 tickets they’d like to sell you.
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What else can I do?
Uh, gee…I dunno?
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We could dance…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFrGuyw1V8s&ob=av3e
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ive got 2 tickets but am seriously contemplating not going and posting pics of said unused tickets on HIO during gametime for lulz
Nah!! It’s all about this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxmCCsMoD0&ob=av2e
Timo, if punkster’s input is not enough to get your tush in the seats, then you might as well give it up.
Bought tickets to an Habs game, will be the first time I see hockey at the Bell Center, they are crappy Molson Ex Zone, against a crappy Panthers team, but they are Habs tickets.
Went to Patati-Patata, there was a line once again, so I’m losing hope on this one, 3rd try, and no luck.
Went to Ma’am Bolduc instead, and it ranks below Chez Claudette, but better than the Banquise.
Ma’am Bolduc has a nice place, good ambiance, and a nice “terrace” to eat outside. The menu are great and there seems to be alot of great stuff there too. I went with the poutine, and my budd the pepper sauce poutine.
Small is 9$ and big is 12$. I could not finish mine, though I got the big one.
Fries are great, but I prefer mine a bit sweeter, they we’re nice and golden. Sauce was alright, but not as thick as I like. Cheese was better than Chez Claudette, it seems like it was fresher.
Overall a good experience and a better decoration and ambience than Chez Claudette.
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
Banquise had about 50 people in line at 8pm last night!
Well they are the most talked about poutine place in town for sure, and it’s not that it’s bad poutine, it just was not top for me. I will go there again to make sure my reviews are correct.
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So I have never been a big Poutine fan, of course there is virtually no good poutine served in GTA, or more specifically Burlington/Oakville.
But after reading all your reviews, I think I will be having poutine at Summit! Enjoy reading it, thanks.
Poutine is not for everyone, that’s for sure, it’s hard on the stomach too! But I’d definately try either of Chez Claudette or Ma’am Bolduc, if you get the chance, I gotta say I’m quite happy in having found those place.
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5 guys fries, bell pro cheese, saint hubert sauce… i wanna make it happen
Neber went to 5 guys, always thought they we’re only in the USA, but there’s one on Mcgill apparently.
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theres also one beside the habs practice facility in brossard (i saw maxpac there)
For raw unadulterated and non fancy shmancy poutine try:
Salle de Billard Chez Paul
2425, rue du Centre, Montréal, QC H3K 1J9
No line-ups. Just straight up poutine.
This is the real deal. They’ve been serving poutine since the 50′s. All dressed hot dogs are mustard, onions and cabbage. If you want relish also, you gotta ask for all dressed plus relish.
My fave is the hot dog speciale. Don’t ask for a chien chaud.
C’est quoi un chien chaud??? Un chien saoul? Un chien qui sue?
Hehehe.
I’ll try to keep that place in mind, but it’s ways aways from where I usually hang out.
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I once, in my younger and naive days, asked for a chien chaud vapeur at a French-Canadian greasy spoon, as it was written on the board.
I got back the most dumb-founded expression I have ever witnessed in my life. After I repeated my faux pas with possibly the thickest English accent ever, the lady replied, “oh, un hot dog!”
Then she asked me, “ton hot dog, steamé ou toasté?” Which threw me off for a second.
When she asked how I wanted my haut dawg garnished, I looked back at the menu board which clearly stated “tout garnie” but instead I sheepishly answered, “all-dressed” with the best French inflection I could muster at the time.
It was the correct response!!!
True story.
Try going to a skate shop and ask for a “rouli-roulant” heh!
Great Franglais story you got there!
If you don’t grok it, drokk it!
apply same rules for ordering a club sandwich
Is there a french word for Club sandwich?
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i guess not, trum this up as an example of not even bothering
I think both words are accepted in the french dictionary so, the combo of them both should work too.
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it still strikes me as funny that the accent takes care of it
Nothing will beat what happened to my old boss years ago – he was a very straight-laced gentleman with virtually no French (even though he lived on the South Shore) – he goes to a restaurant with his young son and asks for two hamburgers and a putain for his son. That one still cracks me up.
17 years old and stopped at a restaurant on the 117 North of Val D’Or I ordered my first poutine … only I pronounced it putain to the hilarity of my travelling mates. Luckily, the waitress had a gentle soul. I also learned there was no such thing as a chien chaud or hamberquois.
Hambourgeois exists, they are the citizen of Hamburg, though you cannot order them at a restaurant.
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there was a poster claiming otherwise last year, said it is commonly used… his name escapes me
pardon me while i go back to my water powered car car
LOL, oh mofo , too funny!
I moved to northern Quebec 20 years ago and I spent at least 2 years providing laughs to the locals by using the French I learned in French class in Montreal.
shiram, don’t know if you’ll even see this, but there’s nothing wrong with the Ex Zone. Yes, they are the cheapest seats in the house, but the experience there more than makes up for it. You will get to enjoy the game with a bunch of rowdy (see: inebriated), loud, extremely passionate Habs fans.
When I went to the Ducks-Habs game last year, I sprung for a good seat (Red B Corners on the side where the Habs shoot 2x). Great view of the game, but fairly quiet. I could hear the fans in the Ex-Zone all game long (my cousins and gf were also seated there as they didn’t want to drop $175 for a seat) and they were on the far side of the building from where I was. Next time I go to a game, I’m gonna choose that section just so I can be surrounded by Habs as loud as I am when I watch my Habs.
All the pandemonium you hear when you watch a Habs home game on TV comes from the cheap seats.
- Honestly yours
Waiting for someone to do a Bruins video using the Boston song “The Man I’ll Never Be”, starring Chara, Marchand,Lucic, Horton, and the rest of the miscreants. I’d do it myself, but there’s more capable peole out there.
If Doughty really did turn down 6.8M/9 years he presumably realizes he won’t get much more than 7M. That’s fine. A short holdout in order to get an extra million or so. If I was his agent I’d suggest not taking a one year deal as mentioned in the article. With the current incidence of serious injuries, that is very risky.
The real problem for us is that Doughty might be setting the bar for PK next year. I think they have the same agent.
I just read that article as well…that is insane. There must be more to the story than what is in the article. Why would he turn down a 6.8/ year for 9 years? It doesn’t add up.
If PK goes for that kind of dough next year I would show him the door. You could get two decent players for 7 mill a season.
PK and doughty are good but not that good
I’m sure he would sign for $6.8 million if it was short term. He’s going to be the best defenseman in the league for a very long time. 2 years from now he could be making $8.5 million a year, so why would he want to lock himself into a deal at $6.8 million for 9 years?
Agree, he wants short term. Then he can hit the real lottery.
Let’s be clear here ….Insane is the Gomez contract !
Nobody could accuse you of insanity, since apparently that’s close to genius.
Right, let´s show our biggest talent the door because he wants 7 million after we have been paying 7m+ for a center whose worth is not more than 2. Right, you get two decent players for 7m but not great ones. PK and Doughty are among the world´s five best dmen under 23. Both will probably be among the NHL´s ten best dmen for the next decade. These are 7m Dollar players if you like it or not.
Do you honestly think PK is worth 7 mill a season already? After under two seasons? PK is a great prospect but still has to work on a lot of things in his game.
Doughty isn’t worth 6.8. He didn’t have that great of a season last year. a 9 year deal at 6.8 million is a pretty significant contract. There is a lot of risk on the players side taking a shorter contract as well. If he signs a two year deal and blows out his knee or gets one of the famous headshots bye bye money.
The 9 year deal at just under 7 million is pretty generous in my opinion.
Based on the logic of using Scott Gomez as a benchmark for contracts we will have a roster of 9 players next season all making 7 million per year .
You know what is funny about all these contract holdout type scenarios, is after the player has extracted all the money he can from the team and the cap is screwed over the player then says he really wants to win the cup with this team.
I am not expecting these guys to play for free, but don’t feed me the BS of winning is the most important. Just admit making the most money is priority #1 and playing on a winning team is #2.
show him the door and start planning what first picks you will get , 7 million for a D a retarded , or for any player for that matter ,
HabinBurlington…………..BOY DO I EVER AGREE WITH YOUR POST
BIG TIME. LET’S GET READY TO PLAY, I BELIEVE……….
The PK implications are what have me so heated over this too I think. That, and Doughty really is being a douche about this IMO.
- Honestly yours
I’d say he wants out of LA.
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Now is the time for the youngsters to shine for a week before reality arrives at camp in the form of the vets. Let’s hope they all keep their heads up and perform well, leading to ill-deserved controversy as is usual here.
Mike Boone
Thanks for your article this morning, you have been given a great gift of bringing pictures to us by your special way of grouping your words.
Boone’s debut sports column
Thanks for inventing this HIO site for all of us, with Dave Stubbs and Hickey. You already know what this site and people on the site have done for me over the past 5 years.
You have built a fantastic community of friends here. My way of showing appreciation for you at the Gazette and the members posting on HIO, is by organizing our HIO summit each year.
Thank you again Mike and I am very much looking forward to another enjoyable Hockey Inside Out year and parade in the spring.
Ian
Not sure what makes Doughty and his agent think he is worth, but turning down 6.8M for 9 years is just plain greedy…
Drive for 25!
IMO Doughty and his Agent are looking to cashing huge before the next CBA is negotiated. Agents only look to the best interests of their clients (and in turn themselves of course) and could give a rats ass of anything else, as they rightfully should. It’s their responsibility in their hired role. A good agent will have a little insight or a prognosis to how the next CBA will affect their client and will take all precautions to circumvent any possible negative impact it may have. How the latest offer from the Kings is not acceptable to a 21 year old player is beyond me….not that age has much to do with it but the “big” contract typically comes next. I think they are trying to rush the line to be safe. Unreal how our sport keeps getting greedier and greedier.
Remember the headline said “reportedly” and that Nick Kypreos is the one coming out with this. This is nothing but a speculative piece and is NOT real journalism. It’s as if Eklund has “reported” this, ffs.
Kypreos suffered many concussions, and is also a complete Leaf Loving moron.
The top 6 has improved over last year by adding cole the bottom 6 has has to step it up to have a chance at the cup if they can do it this is gonna be a very good team and could go all the way, the “D” looks good but injury’s is the scary part…
injuries are the scary part
eoYp
I meant to say Eye on Your Pizza you know.
lol
btw
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i called samsung, not the first time ive been wrong
Hmm. Kinda, maybe. I like it. Should appeal to all the 20 somethings.
I have been checking out the Android tablets lately. I still refuse to go Mac.
Seems like punctuation is the scary part.
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Let’s hope we get a little good luck this season on the injury front…
Drive for 25!
Injuries determine every team’s success or failure. Lose enough of your best players and even the best teams falter.
Exactly, Pittsburgh is toast with Crosby, Philly without Pronger, Washington without Ovechkin or as long as Boudreau is still behind the bench eating donuts., Boston without Chara etc. etc. etc.
Philly yes, but the pens without Crosby and Malkin last year played fantastic and were third best in the entire league. They play their system well and Fleury is a solid goalie.
I would be more than happy to see us play the Pens in the playoffs without Crosby. They weren’t 3rd best in the playoffs without them.
My point is, with Crosby they make Stanley Cup Finals.
Nice article, Boone, and congratulations on your new beginning.
But would Lafleur have committed that ugly red card against lovable underdogs Ghana like that rat-faced footballer did? I don’t care how good he is, to me Suarez will always be muy antipatico.
Congratulations to Mr. Boone on his initial column which I read with a sort of smile on my face. I don’t know why I feel proud for something I had no role in and for an outcome that I had no idea was pending. But proud it is for Mr. Boone and for HIO posters and trolls who may, like me, feel as though we had a small part in this development.
sole survivor of the russian plane crash has passed away today.
sever burns to 90% of his body.. poor guy
RIP
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The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given
Yeah it was pretty sad. If he would have survived though life would have been pretty rough with severe burns to 90% of your body.
It has been a rough summer for hockey all around
” A sports event is three hours during which you can put your feet up, crack a cold one and forget about money, cancer and Republicans.”
I’d have said Montreal winters, hair loss and Tories, but that’s a minor quibble.
Very well said, ….72.
Born and Bred in Enemy Territory (Boston).
NBow if only there was something to make us forget Gary Bettman, Scott Gomez, and the Boston Bruins.
Burns over 90% of the body is a sure road to infection plus all the painful skin grafts sad to say but he is better off this way as sad as it is to say RIP
Ten things to expect from the Montreal Canadiens this season.
- A loss to the Maple Leafs Oct 6.
- Sergei Kostitsin will have a 5 point night on Nov 11th.
- Jeff Halpern has a four point night on Feb 4th.
- The league’s 2nd best power play.
- Tim Thomas and Zdeno Chara will conspire to allow Max Pacioretty to dangle through and score during their first head to head matchup.
“Listen Z. We do this… Yeah, there’ll be a blip on my
save percentage… But their fans’ll believe the kid’s healthy…
…. Stop throwin s##t at you…
Those 100 Montreal reporters’ll stop asking us about
the hit… Maybe the cops’ll even drop their charges…
Win- win. Right?….”
- P.K. Subban goes 0-1 in fights this season. Misses 6 games due to fight related injury.
- Hal Gill and Ryan White go 3-8 combined in fights intercepting P.K.’s agressors.
- Scott Gomez will legally change his last name to Koivu.
- Geoff Molson has a mid season “spend to contend” moment.
- A regular season sweep vs 2 eastern conference teams.
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Today’s first entry in the stupidest comment contest.
Naaa…Leafers don’t qualify.
***Subbang Baby!!!***
By far, HH, by far.
+1
Boone, nice first column good re-introduction of yourself. Only thing you are going to struggle with is that it appears most of the games you watch may be a tad boring with that Left Wing Lock you have going on . You need the odd great right winger if you are going to challenge for the cup!
Cheers Bud!
Too true, mon ami. LOL
i think it would be best to leave left/right out of it entirely, fabricated divisions suck
Tell that to the NHL when they start the re-alignment!!!
beware people, mofo is a member of MACC; Mofo’s Against Controversial Commenting!!!
im not against controversial commenting im against LAZY commenting
Yeah, well…
C_m makes Kovalev appear to be a hustler
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Sword cuts off Penis.
Hey, he said “no cheering from the pressbox”. Let’s not get all crazy up there. Welcome home Boone, nice to have ya.
Sad stuff..sole surviving player from the KHL crash passed away this morning in the hospital
RIP
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Congrats on your first sports column Mr. Boone. I agree the New Year’s Eve contest was a great game as far as excitement goes. However, as a Habs vs Tretiak event, it was also probably the most one-sided tie in hockey history. We was robbed by a masked man!
Mr. Boone,
After reading your final city column, I realized your first year writing it (2000) was also my first year at McGill and first year living in Montreal. In that sense, the column was a sort of primer on the city that would eventually enthrall me, so thank you for the ‘tour’!
Cheers!
Here are some salaries being paid to other D’s;
Shea Weber 7.5m
Brian Campbell 7.14m
Zdeno Chara 6.9m
Jay Bouwmeester 6.68m
Dan Boyle 6.66m
Dion Phaneuf 6.5m
Kimmo Timonen 6.33m
Nicklas Lidstrom 6.2m
Where does Drew Doughty fit into the above mention D?
Not sure he “fits in” with any of those guys. Weber and Phaneuf are the youngest guys on the list at 26 years old, where as Doughty is only 21. Your age and years in the NHL typically have some bearing on what your salary will be. Skill-wise, Doughty fits in with the above list. He’s better than some, on par with a couple, and worse (slightly) than a couple.
If that report is true, Doughty was a stupid to turn down nearly 7mil/year for 9 years.
Salaries are getting ridiculous again and I fear there will be a strike or lock-out next year. If we lose a season again, I’m gonna freak out.
- Honestly yours
Seems like the new NHL now thinks players coming off their entry contract are now to be paid like 6 year veterans if you have had any success in those first 3 years.
These second contracts getting handed out are really starting to get crazy.
I don’t think he deserves it yet, but think Doughtly will end up at $6Mill per season or higher on an average cap hit for his next contract with only 3 years of term.
Totally agree man. He hasn’t put in the time yet to justify that salary – not by a long shot.
The funny thing about that list is the players who, like Doughty, had excellent seasons as youngsters in their first few years in the league then fell off dramatically. Jay Bo and Phanny in particular stand out, Brian Campbell too but to a lesser extent.
Remember when people thought Jay Bo would soon be the best Dman in the league and Phanny was projected to be patrolling the blue line for Team Canada for years to come? Yeah, I do too and neither made team Canada at the 2010 Olympics. I doubt either of them were even given consideration TBH. Incidentally, both of them have what are considered “undesirable contracts”.
- Honestly yours
Doughty was a stud in the Olympics, though. I kept thinking to myself, this guy’s career is going down the tubes playing in LA. Even though the Kings look much better this season, he could pull a Weber and play hardball to get out of there.
“There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
- Jerry Maguire
Great examples Mike, Bowmeester and Phaneuf were completely overpaid based on some early success.
I do think Doughty will be the real deal, but there is no guarantee.
Hard to say, I’d take Doughty above everyone on that list save Lidstrom, and maybe Weber.
Is Doughty worth 6+ million as a first go-round at RFA status? Unlikely.
Also, the salary figures were reported by Nick Kypreos… I wouldn’t put too much weight on that.
Agree (except right now I would obviously take Doughty over Lidstrom on a longterm contract). I also agree that a rumour reported by Nick Kypreos needs an entire salt shaker.
Here’s MB’s final city column (from last week) for those who may have missed it.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/Mike+Boone+last+line+city+hello+Sports/5374049/story.html