Bummer … on many levels


Photo by Anthony Bolante/Reuters

HIO is not happy that Boston won the Stanley Cup.
And we’re angered by what ensued on the streets of a great city.

Hockey dream turns to urban nightmare

Gallery of riot photos

So close, but no ring

Great season ends in painful loss

Luongo,  teammates fold on big stage

Montreal Juniors get out of town


  1. CHsam says:

    Funny…. Before the series, media was lauding Brian Burke for landing the Sedin twins…… Guess he’s not looking so smart now huh

  2. Joe Bruin says:

    Dear MTL,

    Thinking of you this morning. Enjoy the cheese with your whine today!

    Go B’s!

  3. fofe84 says:

    I can’t believe how acquiescent I feel about all this. I would have thought that I’d be super-pissed, but I really don’t care that much. Even watching the Cup celebration, I felt at peace. Weird. Maybe it’s because I’m getting used to seeing people I hate win stuff. I’m a Canadian libertarian-socialist that wants to move to America soon, also a British citizen and a huge fan of Brett Favre and the Habs. Here’s my 2010-11 season: Germany eliminates England from World Cup, Republicans take Congress, Favre ends iron-man streak amidst sexual harassment controversy, Packers win Super Bowl, Tories win majority government, Bruins win Stanley Cup. Pretty much, everyone I root against won everything they could.

    I really got my ass kicked this season! Oh, and at one point, I literally did get my ass kicked by three guys when I tried to defend my friend after he got jumped by a group of guys for trying to stop one of them from beating his girlfriend.

    Congratulations to Boston fans. But seriously, this is not the place to celebrate. Go have some fun with friends! This site is for misery.

  4. D Mex says:

    The notion of sportsmanship dictates that opponents and adversaries congratulate, or at least acknowledge, what Boston accomplished down the stretch and thru the playoffs. The problem for true hockey fans, and by this I mean people who understand the game and even help to build the game, raises its head the moment they pause to recognize HOW this was made possible.

    I’ve been around a long time : I attended games at the original Forum and can remember a time when Boston paid rent to occupy the cellar in a 6-team league. It’s good that the league has evolved since then, first to 12 teams and then beyond, and has made big strides toward parity along the way. But then I pause to examine the nonsense that stands in opposition to extracting a dead franchise from the desert and placing it into a thriving hockey market. This causes me to assess NHL leadership, and what I see is NOT good.

    Gary Bettman knows zero about the game and, in my view, cares less about its integrity. Yet, he was rewarded with a contract extension this season because he understands dollars. My point is that, while he may understand business, he has no conscience for the game. This was sadly evident when Campbell’s e-mails were made public and, again, as the first vertebrae snapped during Boston’s march to the cup.

    That Colin Campbell would think he could conveniently step aside mere days before a league championship is decided and then try to pass himself off simply as the stereotypical hockey dad on national TV last night is not only unacceptable, it is an insult to the integrity of the game at its highest professional level.

    Yet nothing was done, and it is clear nothing will be done. Which contributes to my belief that, left unfettered, Bettman and his followers will take this sport to places it should never go, and damage it deeply in the process.

    Enjoy the victory Bruins fans – a handful of you are friends I have coached with and respect. But don’t think that the rest of us cannot and will not draw our own conclusions on how your victory was accomplished. We can, and we will.

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

    • ACF says:

      Excellent post D Mex. Completely share your views.

    • ACF says:

      I couldn’t watch the cup presentation last night but I hope both Bettman and Chara were booed.

      Sad to say it but Habs now rank second amongst original six teams in cup winning drought (behind TO).

    • knuckle05 says:

      Habs were just a stepping stone in our path to glory.

      May the bitter taste in your mouth remain with you – forever.

      • D Mex says:

        Don’t mistake fact for bitterness.
        Bettman, Campbell, Murphy and others tainted any pretence of your imagined path to Bruins glory far beyond repair.
        You are not a true hockey fan, consequently, your opinion has no value – forever.

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

  5. Kooch7800 says:

    It looks like Calgary is close to signing a multi-year contract with Tanguay. I still can’t believe we let him go. He had 69 points last year. In the year he was here he did have shoulder problems and didn’t play but was effective when he was in the line up.

    In my opinion he would have been a nice fit with Cammy and Plek’s. Pleks can shoot and so an Cammy

  6. lenny says:

    Bottom line, in order to win in this league you need toughness and skill…not just smurfs with skill

    I hate the Bruins, really I do!

  7. JF says:

    We can hate the Bruins all we want, but we’re doing ourselves no favours by refusing to give them credit for their victory or by dismissing it as luck or League bias. It would make more sense to look at the ingredients of their success and see where the Habs fall short.

    So what were those ingredients? Great goaltending, obviously, and solid defence; as our series showed, we matched them here and might well have beaten them if Markov and Gorges had been healthy. A well-balanced offence; and here the record is deceptive, since we scored only one goal fewer in our series. The difference was that about a third of our goals were the result of special teams, whereas theirs were all even-strength. We had better special teams, but they had more depth, and in the playoffs that is key. We are at least one top-six forward away from having the offensive depth we need.

    The other elements are character, mental toughness, grit, and physical toughness; and, while I believe we have plenty of the first two, I really think we need more of the latter two to survive the grind of four playoff rounds. You can’t measure grit and toughness, but to me, an indication that we’re lacking in this department is the number of serious injuries we’ve suffered in the last couple of seasons. Of course, injuries are part of hockey, and many of them are flukey, but a team whose best players are often injured is a team that is worn down too easily.

    It’s up to Pierre Gauthier to add some scoring and toughness. As Eric Engels points out, the Bruins winning the Cup sets the bar very high in the Northeast Division. But I like our team, and I feel that they’re a group of guys who are capable of winning the Cup. We’re just short a couple of pieces.

  8. Neutral says:

    sorry the Habs are a long way from winning a cup, all defence don’t cut it. when you’re ranked 21st in scoring, I don’t think you’ll win many stanley cups. Boston was ranked 5th that’s a big difference Habs have to move up 16 ranks a few changes is badly needed don’t think one big centerman will do it.

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      Obviously next season is a big “what if” but since that is the point, what if we sign Markov and he does not get injured and Gorges cruises through without major injury. Suddenly, not only is our D better, but offence springs from good defence. GA goes down and GF goes up, without major additions.

      I am still hoping for major additions.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      In 2009-2010 the Boston Bruins scored the fewest goals in the NHL. That’s a ranking of 30th.

      * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

  9. issie74 says:

    OK,No more Boston Talk Please and let’s ignore the trolls.
    Hab Fans still don’t like the Bruins and the Bruins don’t like the Habs any better.

    I am more interested in the Habs off season news.


    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      Agreed, though the problem is that we always disliked Boston because they were rivals but this most recent version of their team — some hellish reincarnation of the Broad Street Bullies — has ramped that up to hate for a lot of us.

      Spector is posting speculations about Hemsky’s future in Edmonton. That could be an interesting addition.

  10. HardHabits says:

    They should change the name of this site to excuses excuses excuses inside out.

    Get over it. There is no one blue-print to building a champion but there are many factors to consider. It is what it is. The what ifs don’t matter. Or maybe change the name to sour grapes inside out.

    The Habs last season were top 10 in PP, PK and goals against per game. They were also bottom 10 in goals scored per game. The other factor apart from these statistics is that the Habs do not really have that much depth. JM doesn’t over-play 4-6 players because he likes to, as much as many here would like to believe. He does so because he has little choice. Teams need to roll 4 lines to go all the way. Very few teams win the Cup on 2 or 3 lines alone.

    What other variables do the Habs need to consider? IMO, the Habs need 3 effective scoring lines and an effective shut down line that isn’t centred by Tomas Plekanec. PK duty has to handled by 3rd and 4th liners not by your top wingers.

    Even with Emelin onboard the Habs still miss grit on the back end. As for the forwards, it is my analysis that a team with too many small forwards cannot last 4 rounds of play-off hockey in this league. Yes they could beat the Bruins in the 1st round, but at what cost? Had we met them in round 3 the series would have been over a lot sooner for the Habs.

    I remember the one season the Habs finished 3rd over-all. They had the best offence in the league that year. They also had the least injuries. When the Habs focused on defense the injuries piled up for 3 consecutive seasons.

    So in my mind the two are related. Either fewer injuries will bring about more goals scored per game or more goals scored per game will bring about fewer injuries.

    But we all know what will happen. Rather than focus on scoring more goals JM will try to get the team to allow fewer to go in. (I had to finish with cynicism, my apologies)

    • Chuck says:

      Well, why wouldn’t they try to focus on allowing fewer goals? Boston managed to keep Vancouver to 8 goals over 7 games, and get their name on the Cup for their efforts.

      Want to take pressure off your offense? Every goal that you prevent is two goals that your offense doesn’t have to score in order to win.

      • habaddict_andy says:

        I agree with you Chuck. Defensive system wins cups, the exact example last night. Being bottom 10 in scoring just means tighter games and winning with defense and goal tending.

        I do realize we need to role 4 lines though. That is the key for success in playoffs.

        Go! Hockey! Go!

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      I think the Habs have the potential to have three scoring lines if another top 6 winger was signed along with AK.

      UFA or Trade/Pleks/Cam

    • christophor says:

      Darche-Talbot-Moen is your shutdown 4th line.

      A good winger will push AK onto a 3rd scoring line.

      Talbot-Moen is your first PK pairing.


      • Favorite Son says:

        I’d be good with that, but if rumors are true and Talbot wants a raise then I would have to say no. We had a handful of guys that could kill penalties this year but JM still chose to play Plek, Gio, Gomez, I think even Cammalleri at one point.

        Pyatt, Moen, Halpern, Darche, White even Eller and DD (until they get top 6 minutes) could’ve done the job so the top players could focus on offense…

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Bang on HH!

    • Neutral says:

      HardHabits: Good post

    • Favorite Son says:

      Extremely well said. Great point:”PK duty has to handled by 3rd and 4th liners not by your top wingers.”

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      “When the Habs focused on defense the injuries piled up for 3 consecutive seasons”

      In 2008/2009 the Canadiens acquired Robert lang and Alex Tanguay thus changing their focus to defence, and resulting in injuries to Lang, Tanguay, Andreis Markov and Kostitsyn, Josh Georges, Max Pacioretty, Brian Gionta, Mike Cammalleri, and Georges Laraque.

      The only player spared apparently is the over-worked Tomas Plekanec. Brilliant analysis! ; )

      * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Actually in Offseason it’s strictly Armchair GM Inside/Out.

      Everyone posts their blueprint and explains why the team has to do it their way to win.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

    • GrimJim says:

      I agree with most of your post but I think you are off base on your scoring=less injuries belief. Mtl was middle of the pack in injuries in 2010-11, ranked 17th in the league as of MArch 24:

      I also think you’re mis-remembering the 2007-2008 season. I checked the NHL.com stats page for Montreal: check out the differences between 2007-08 and 2010-11:
      2007-08 GF 3.13; GA 2.63; PP24.1%; PK 82.5%; Shots/G 29.1; SA/G 31.6; 5-5 GF-GA Ratio 1.06
      2010-11 GF 2.6; GA 2.51; PP19.7%; PK84.4%; S/G 31.7 SA/G 31.0; 5-5 GF-GA ratio 1.01
      The 2007 team allowed the same number of shots against, had roughly the same goals against, and the same ratio of goals for vs goals against in 5-5 situations. The 2007 team didn’t ignore defense. The 2007 team had roughly the same defensive results as the 2010 team. But what the 2007 team did have was a 24% power play. More importantly, in 2007 Mtl scored 90 powerplay goals on 374 opportunities while in 2010 mtl scored 57 goals in 290 opportunities. So in 2007, the team had more PP opportunities and capitalized more on them. Why? I’m guessing the issue is markov+streit+kovalev vs no markov+streit+kovalev. In 2007 the top nine scoring forwards ranged from 84, 69, 56,53,52,31,27,27, 25 points and 35, 29,27,26,16,16,14,9 and 9 goals. In 2010 the top nine scoring forwards ranged from 57,47,46,45,38,30,26,26, 24 points and 29,22,20,19,14,13,12,11, 8 goals. With no effective power forward on the top line for the opponents defense to focus on, other teams can spread out their d and make mtl less effective. Kovalev opened opportunities for his line-mates (Pleks and AKost). AKost hasn’t opened up opportunities for cammy and Pleks. In 2007 the top three defensive scorers had 62,58,26 points and 16,13,5 goals. in 2010 the same stats were 38,34,30 points and 14,7,5 goals. Markov and Streit moved the puck effectively (making the offense more efficient) and scored effectively (forcing defenses to cover more area and further dilute their strength). in 2008 we lost Streit and dropped to 2.95 GF. In 2009 we lost Kovalev and Markov for 1/2 the season and dropped to 2.56 GF. In 2010 we lost Markov for the whole season and gained Wiz for 1/2 a season and moved to 2.6 GF (and PK took 1/2 the season to hit his offensive stride). And of those losses, only MArkov was due to injury.
      So to me the key is not the focus on defense or the injuries, its the holes on the offense. We need that puck-moving number 1 d-man (either
      Markov or Wiz). We need that 2nd offensive d-man (PK for a whole year). And we need that effective power forward to clear space for Cammy and Pleks and then dilute the opponents defense further for Gio,Gomez Pac etc.

  11. Propwash says:

    Oh well, Bruins still suck.

  12. hdcase says:

    I was wondering if all Canadians have paranoid delusions of vast conspiracies or is it just hockey fans? Is this a common thread in your day to day life? I feel sorry for you saps. I came here to get another viewpoint on hockey and mostly what I read are contradictory ramblings about conspiracies to deprive Montreal of a Stanley Cup.


    • HalifaxHabs says:

      Hey look another Bruins fan who loves to come here and post smack talk, after a Bruins win…

      why weren’t you here posting last year after the Bruins choked worse then any team in modern history, and the Habs were off to the next round??? because your that type of person, run your mouth when your team is winning, and no one hears from you when they lose.

      I’ll make it easy for you, if you think this site is full of “saps” that you feel sorry for, don’t come here anymore. Go post on those great Bruins sites with all those superior hockey fans.

      You should be ashamed of yourself saying Jean Belliveau is your favorite player and saying the Bruins are your favorite team. Jean Belliveau would be disgusted by you Henri.

      • Favorite Son says:

        Wow, a little bitter about the Bruins winning the cup? Beliveau is a classy man so not sure what you’re talking about there…he would definitely give credit where credit is due.

        • HalifaxHabs says:

          what i’m talking about, favorite son, is if you look at that guy’s profile he has his favorite player of all time listed as “Jean Belliveau”, and his favorite team listed as the Bruins.

          you think that’s cool? you like when Bruins fans come to this site and group all Habs fans into a big group called “saps”? you like sticking up for people like that?

          I never said Jean Belliveau wouldn’t give the Bruins the credit they deserve, because hey they deserve it, they were the best team… I said he would be disgusted by someone saying Jean is their favorite player, but then shitting all over Habs fans and saying the Bruins are his favorite team.

          • Favorite Son says:

            Actually, I couldn’t care less what people put on their profiles…it’s quite funny that it bothers you that much. If he wants to troll, let him do so, just ignore him. Some people just don’t get it, if you answer him, you’re feeding him. How about we try this? Not giving a single reply to a troll’s post. Ignore him long enough, he’ll get bored and never come back. No need to get your panties in a bunch over this stuff!

          • HalifaxHabs says:

            What can I say son… I mean you are right, because I shouldn’t even respond to losers like that… but it’s an emotional day, and our site is littered with idiots who have activated their accounts in the last few days to talk smack.

            Sorry, I’m not as calm and enlightened as you, but I guess I’m just one of those guys that calls out sh1t talkers, instead of always turning a blind eye.

            You call it “getting your panties in a bunch”, I call it “calling it how I see it.”

            Maybe instead of telling me to ignore him, you just worry about yourself, and you can ignore me and my posts.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        And Halifax….

        We lose any argument with a Bruins fan by default now.

        Nothing from the past matters now because the Bruins are the Stanley Cup Champions.

        I don’t think they care about any insults at this time…

        • HalifaxHabs says:

          Thanks Hobie but I’m not in any argument, I’m calling out a Boston troll for coming to Habs site and insulting everyone.

          I love when people defend Bruins fans who troll this site to insult everyone.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            U should see the amount of Habs trolls on their site.

          • HalifaxHabs says:

            that’s thing Hobie… I don’t go to their site because I’m not a Bruins fan. That’s what a troll does.

            I’m not a troll, he is. See what I’m saying?

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Not sure if it was a conspiracy or just total ignorance by the NHL. The Bruins had 4 or 5 instances where there was no doubt in anybody’s mind that their should have been a suspension and nothing happened?

      Not sure what you want to call it but it is what it is…

    • kempie says:

      Man, it’s a freakin trollfest in here today. Stay classy Bruin Nation.

    • Chuck says:

      See, there’s where you’re wrong, hdcase. The conspiracy theories aren’t about denying the Habs a Stanley Cup. They’re about getting the Bruins one.


    • arcosenate says:

      Now that’s funny. Americans have invented the conspiracy theory, there’s a conspiracy theory on everything that happens in the U.S. From UFO’s to the oil, arms, tobacco industries to immigration, the church, Russian weather machines, the mafia, bermuda triangles, sasquatch, Obama’s birth place, Lincoln, JFK, Bobby Kennedy, black helicopters, big government, 9/11 inside job…blah, blah, blah.

      We keep it simple here dude, winter’s cold and the bruins suck.

    • nek25plus says:

      not the habs… the Canucks!

    • issie74 says:

      No! Just me.


  13. SmartDog says:

    On to REALLY important stuff…. when is HIO going to fix it so the most recent reply to a thread goes at the top instead of the bottom.

    I replied to someone’s comment and because there were a lot of other replies inbetween, mine went halfway down the page. You couldn’t even tell what I was replying to. Someone seriously over-thought how that should work. You had it right the first time boys (on the old site), put it back.

    • HalifaxHabs says:

      I’ve been begging for that one since we changed sites… but the lack of response to those requests, makes me think they don’t have the capability to do that with this site.

      MODS – PLEASE PROCESS SMART DOG’S REQUEST… He’s a really smart dog, LOL

    • D Mex says:

      Hey ! Down Here !

      So you’re saying the new HIO doesn’t know it’s poop … 🙂

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

      • SmartDog says:

        I guess that the programmers don’t know their poop or like HalifaxHabs says, they shoulda fixed it by now.
        I bet it’s actually easy to do. Might even be the checking of a box. These content managed forums are pretty slick now.
        I think they’re either just not listening or they have some weird reason for wanting it this way. But it sucks.

  14. christophor says:

    Call me crazy but I think if the Habs get a top line forward and a decent year out of Gomez, they’re legit.

    3 scoring lines, one of the East’s best D-corps, and goaltending.

    Edit: not favourites, but a team with a decent chance.

    • el heffe says:

      we were a contender this year. one goal in OT against Boston and we may have been running over Van for the Cup

      nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

      • christophor says:

        “contender” is used loosely. If you mean it’s conceivable they could have made it all the way, then yes, I agree. But there’s a chance, depending on what happens in the offseason, that we could more than conceive of the Habs winning. They could have a legitimate shot, albeit a somewhat outside one.

      • christophor says:

        My comments aren’t showing. %$#^

      • JayBee says:

        How can you say something like this? The Stanley Cup isn’t a quick and easy equation. Games are played on the ice. There’s no telling if the Habs would have won. I somehow doubt it when you consider Eller and Desharnais were both OUT…and Wiz was playing with a bum hand.

        Since when did Hab fans start counting moral victories?

        • el heffe says:

          hence the words MAY have BEEEN AND CONTENDER, other notable contenders include Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, SanJose, Detroit and Philly. That’s how i can say it. Because it’s true. Habs beat Boston in game seven and it’s wide open.

          nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

    • SmartDog says:

      God bless you for wanting to believe.
      But saying “if Gomez shows up this year we’ll be good” is about the same as those who said “if Luongo can steal game 7 like he did games 1,2, and 5 Vancouver has the cup”. Just as likely.

      • christophor says:

        So you agree, but you just think it very unlikely that he turns it around.

        Well, can’t say I blame you. I don’t have much faith in him. 50pts max, I think, unless Pacioretty necromances that line.

      • D Mex says:

        A decent season out of Gomez would be a step in the right direction AND is it not too much to ask. In fact, it is more than reasonable. He also needs to dial up the intensity a bit.

        His contract isn’t going anywhere so I see where you’re headed out there in front of the train. I’m with you – let’s have a decent season svp Scott.

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Sorry, man. You’re crazy. If you think Scott Gomez is going to turn into Saku or Dougie Gilmour or Trevor Linden or ____, or____, or ____… you are absolutely freaking delusional and shouldn’t leave your house until you receive medical attention.

      He doesn’t care. That’s a hard thing for us to accept because we can’t imagine not caring, but it’s the only reasonable explanation. He’s too rich and too selfish and too lazy. Sorry, it makes me want to spit broken glass.

      As for getting a decent top line forward, I actually have some faith that PG will try. But the crop is thin, Richards is quoted as not wanting to come here and teams like the Leafs will bid high for him.

      I think we have to live with 2 more years of pain until the kids come along and Gomer is off the books. Hopefully JM will be gone too.

      This is an extra painful day as we get to live with a whole year of Beaner arrogance. So let’s go down to Notre Dame and light a candle for PG, I actually have some confidence after him scooping Wiz and getting Emelin here. Sign Markov and Gorges and Wiz, with a bad-ass back end like that, Price and good special teams, we can maybe get by with a mediocre 5 on 5 game. And an extra candle for MaxPax67.

      God have mercy on us, we need it.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        I think Gomez is a lost cause, but in the long term he is not an issue. We have one season guaranteed with Gomez, then, as many posters have mentioned before, he becomes attractive to “cap-floor” teams as he gets paid much less than his cap hit. If he doesn’t, then we have him for three more years at worst, by that time the Habs young core (Price, Subban, Eller, Pacioretty) will have had 3-6 years of playoff experience.

        Signing Markov, Wiz, and Georges seems to be the best way to go this year.. and with PK taking Spacek’s money after next year, the D would be set. Imagine having Wiz, Markov, Georges, and PK long term in front of Price.. fantastic D.

        Funny you mention Koivu, my brother and I were discussing how different the Boston series would have been with the heart of Saku in place of Gomez. We talked about the 7 gamer where Saku and Joe Thornton both had broken ribs and Saku outscored Thornton in points 8-0. He was a playoff performer for sure.

      • christophor says:

        I presented a conditional argument.


        I asked to be called crazy if you were to show that logic to be off. You didn’t; you just said it’s unlikely that one of the conditions will be met. SO not only did you not have grounds to call me crazy, you went ahead and called me delusional and in need of help and confinement to my house.

        By the way. I agree. I’m not behind Gomez. 50pts max.

        (1) Work on your reading comprehension.
        (2) Don’t spew out filth unless you’re willing to be filthed upon in return.

        Edit: Notice that I was good enough not to return the favour a la (2). Keep calm and carry on.

    • Favorite Son says:

      This team is missing scorers. Guys to put the puck in the net. Only one legit scorer right now: Cammalleri, and he wasn’t consistent last season. Maybe because of the injury. Gionta is decent but he’s not getting younger. Not a lot of consistency from him either. AK, same thing, no consistency…Plek is good for 20-25 goals but he’s more of a playmaker and they overuse him on the pk.

      We need scorers and grit.

      • christophor says:

        Get someone like Talbot to center the bottom line and play on the first wave of the PK. With a legit winger, Plek will get more points and will be able to focus on offense. That and hope the young ones take steps forward (Patches, Eller, PK). I’m not worried about Gio.

        • issie74 says:

          I don’t like the idea.I would like the team to bring in some more youth.The Bulldogs have more bodies than they have places for.
          What are we doing with all our prospects,can’t let them walk,they are assets.


  15. habs-hampton says:

    Call it sour grapes if you want, but the bottom line is this:

    All the other 29 teams ever want is a level playing field, and the NHL has denied this to them.

    There are too many examples of favoritism to list here.

  16. TomNickle says:

    Can we please get Louis Leblanc the F away from the Juniors now. Bouchard being in his ear is quite possibly the worst thing that could happen to his development.

  17. otter649 says:

    For a team like Boston who is the best 5 on 5 team in The NHL – Game 7 against Tampa no pentalties called & Game 7 against Vancouver 3 pentalties called where even The CBC were showing missed infractions on both sides. Both games officated by The NHL’s so-called 2 best refs. Standards set earlier in the season for pentalties thrown out the window the deeper the playoffs got. Made for a joke game 7…..

    • JayBee says:

      And I think this is why the Habs need to get bigger/tougher and address the lack of 5 on 5 scoring. Because when it counts, they will not get the PP opportunities.

      • Caballero says:

        Yes. A french analyst said it best right after Chara was not suspended; the league has sent teams a clear message – you have to defend yourself because we will stand back and do nothing if you are physically assaulted. Now can we please get a real 3d and especially 4th line on this team?

        • JayBee says:

          Yup, and we saw that in the SCF. Vancouver was getting assaulted and they weren’t getting the calls they typically got before. You absolutely NEED to be good 5 on 5 because those PP opportunities go bye bye in the playoffs.

          • issie74 says:

            It dosen’t matter if you have George Parros or George Laraque out on the ice to challenge Chara or if you do the revenge thing by targeting their players like Seguin or Marchand,you will be punished severely because you are the retaliating you can’t fight the referees or the system.


  18. nek25plus says:

    Look folks, the fix was in…in the last five years each struggling U.S team has won the cup. The markets that used to be decent but fell into financial ruin. It started with Carolina the Detroit, Pittsburgh, Chicago and now the Bruins! All franchises with no cash before they won the cup. The first email I received this a.m…an email from the NHL trying to peddle Bruins merchandise.

    Van City fans feel cheated…why wouldn’t they? The best way to protest though is to hit the NHL where it hurts…their pocket book. Fans in Canada are keeping the NHL a float. With or without winning cups, we still support and we still spend…doesn’t happen in the U.S.

    The players also need to take a stand and change the environment. Do they have the guts?

    i know I look like a conspiracy theorist…I’m good with that.

    • habs-hampton says:

      Unfortunately, its our game, and I love it too much to ignore it. I feel like a battered wife that just can’t pack up and leave.

    • el heffe says:

      Detroit and Boston were in financial ruin? that’s funny. and rediculous at the same time.

      nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

      • nek25plus says:

        Yes, U.S economy has left both markets financially struggling and both teams were not selling tickets. The year Detroit won the stanley cup they were not even close to being sold out. Their ticket prices are lower (both markets). Detroit is still struggling. Boston has sold more tickets due to a good year this year for next season. But they will need to continue to win or compete at a high level to keep their growth. Neither club is flush or even making money.

        Do some research if you doubt….

    • LA Loyalist says:

      I hate Boston as much as any of us. But they at least showed up and played their crappy style.

      If Vancouver was cheated it was by Roberto the Whiffer Luon-gone and the Sedin sisters who both decided to turn into Scott Gomez at exactly the wrong time. Somewhere Trevor Linden is biting and chewing glass in a locked room wondering where the balls of his team went.

  19. Chuck says:

    In as much as the story of the B’s playoff run was the excellent play of Tim Thomas, it was also his lack of competition at the other end of the ice.

    In the first round against the Canadiens, Tim Thomas had a save% of .925.

    From there on, lack of goaltending made it substantially easier on the Bruins:

    Philly’s save% in their series against Boston? .844
    Tampa save% in their series against Boston? .895
    Van’s save % in their series against Boston? .897

    Add it up, and Boston, through their final three rounds, faced goaltending that collectively was an astonishingly-bad .884

    And as for the first round? Carey Price out-played Tim Thomas with a save% of .934.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      As someone else posted earlier, having a Chara is an incredible game changer. His impacts on games are undeniable. I can’t stand him anymore, but am not stupid enough to deny the fact he is plain and simple a factor on the ice. No doubt he had the Sedins completely off their game.

      Our team is not far away in my opinion. PK and Carey are all world anchors at key positions. It is getting better, PG still has work to do however, I am neither sold on him or against him. I am very curious to watch how this summer plays out.

      • elured says:

        if markov is signed (he will be) and he stays healthy (BIG ?) add to that mix Carey and PK – the puck will be coming out of the habs zone often and effectively which = offence and winning – which therefore means home ice advantage and a much better shot next playoffs.


    • JayBee says:

      Meh, big deal.

      In 93 the Habs had a pretty easy road to a cup…I don’t see anyone discrediting them.

      • Chuck says:

        If you consider 10 overtime wins in a row “easy”….

        • JayBee says:

          Take off your blinders….Habs lucked out big time that year. Quebec was good, that was a tough series…

          Then Buffalo was nothing special

          Didn’t want to face the Pens….but faced the Islanders…. and made quick work of them.

          Didn’t want to face the Leafs…but faced the Kings who were good, but again….nothing special.

          So if you’re going to crap on the Bruins for facing subpar competition, you can say the same for the Habs in 93 and many other teams that won the cup.

          LOL @ Hrudey…the guy with the GAA damn near 4? Give me a break. I wanted to face the Kings over the Leafs for that very reason. Potvin had the best GAA average that year (2.50) and was 2nd in save percentage.

          Yes, the 10 OT wins was great…but if you truly think the Habs did not have a horseshoe up their ass, you are nothing but a homer…or maybe you weren’t old enough to remember the run.

          • Chuck says:

            Actually, I was plenty old enough to remember that run; well into adulthood. And we DID want to face the Leafs; that’s the matchup that I and most Hab fans desired. And the fact that they had to win 10 games in OT only proves the toughness of the competition that they faced.

            But hey, today the bRuins and their fans get to celebrate their 3rd Stanley Cup in the last 69 years… a record that even the Leafs put to shame.

          • JayBee says:

            You can’t be serious. No one wanted to face the Leafs. This is baffling. It’s like saying you wanted to face the Pens and not the Islanders.

            Dude, the Leafs were 3rd in the Conference an had 11 more points than the Kings. They had arguably the BEST goalie in the league that season. They went to the conference finals the year after and the Kings didn’t even make the playoffs.

            The Kings were the best possible matchup. I can’t believe you’re arguing this.

          • Chuck says:

            JayBee, show me one Canadian that didn’t want to see a Habs/Leafs final, regardless of how they thought the teams matched up.

            And regardless of How well Potvin was playing, I’d still have preferred to go to war with Patrick Roy in my goal.

      • LA Loyalist says:

        They beat a damn good Kings team with Gretzy and Kelley Hrudey – who was a better goalie than anyone Boston faced – and the record of 10 O-T wins will never be matched in our life-times, much less broken.

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        The 1992 -1993 Montreal Canadiens were 16-4.

        * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

      • issie74 says:

        I hope your kidding because nothing could be further from the truth.


  20. Le Jadester says:

    I will post one more time.

    Brad Marchant is going to be a problem for us in the next couple of years !


    Obviously Him and T. Seguin are the only two that I am afraid of in the future.

    I do believe that when we play the Boonz next year for the first time and then 5 other times……….they will be afraid ! ( PK hit on Marchand, Price coulda easily slapped Thomas around, etc. – All those events help ease the sting of those beeatches winning the cup) I think we’re in their heads and the most important thing is to not let that distract us from winning the cup ! Being content with just spankin’ the defending champs is good, but the cup is what counts.

    I am kinda happy for Bergeron, Seguin and Kelly. The rest are a bunch of carnies. Bring on 2012 ! I think we may be on to something with these new Habs !

    Habs, OLE !

  21. Psycho29 says:

    I hate the Bruins…..with a passion.
    I turned off the game at the start of the 3rd Period, for the first time in my life I didn’t watch the Cup being presented. (Sorry I missed Bettman’s ovation).
    That being said…..the better team in this series won, and they were more deserving of the victory, especially when you consider that out of 7 games (420 minutes), the Canucks led for only 33 minutes.

  22. christophor says:

    Just noticed that the 2012 crop of UFA forwards doesn’t look too promising either.

  23. TomNickle says:

    Can somebody please clear something up for me. When did the Canucks get labeled a fast hockey team?

    The Sedins, Kesler, Samuelsson, Bieksa, Edler, Hamhuis, Ballard. Not fast hockey players.

    I understand that Hansen, Burrows and Raymond are fast but man, having a couple of really fast players doesn’t make you a fast team. Bruins were by far a faster skating team than the Canucks were. Speed does kill the Bruins, but the Canucks sure as hell didn’t have it.

    • Malreg says:

      I agree with you somewhat, but Kesler is one of the fastest skaters in the league.

      • TomNickle says:

        My goodness no he is not.

        I feel he has adequate speed and elite strength that allows him to separate from his man consistently. Big difference. Lindros is a great comparable in terms of speed/strength. Quite often found himself alone due to his ability to muscle away from people.

    • habs-hampton says:

      They are not fast, they play what is essentially a “half-court” game. The Habs run and gun, and score off the rush. This gave the B’s all they could handle.

      • J Haul says:

        Exaaactly… and when the lanes weren’t open for the cute passes down low the half court press was totally ineffective. They either failed to or weren’t able to adapt.

    • nek25plus says:

      Lapierre and Higgins are also very speedy.

  24. JohnBellyful says:

    If we’re going to seed the NHL with ex-Canadiens in order to help them make, and even win, the final, all in the name of parity, let us be smart about it.
    Brainwash our players before we trade them or let them go. Turn them into sleeper cells so that later, at a time most advantageous to the team, a signal is given to sabotage their new employer. This could be as simple as an ex-Hab taking out Chara in practice — these are for example purposes only and are not meant to advocate certain courses of action — running over Lucic’s foot in the parking lot or spiking Marchand’s Ratorade.
    Deciding what the signal will be requires some thinking. My initial thought was that uttering “Bruins suck” would suffice because it wouldn’t require much of a memory on either side to set events in motion but further reflection convinced me the plan could be activated in 29 cities by fans.
    We need a combination of words that no one will ever say unless there’s an insidious purpose behind it. Or the person’s an idiot.
    My suggestion: “Gomez is full value for his money.”
    (Actually, this will probably trigger a reaction even among ex-Habs who aren’t part of this dastardly enterprise.)

  25. Fansincebirth says:

    Can someone please explain the whole “USA vs Canada” thing to me when it comes down to hockey?

    City rivalry I understand but for fans to be screaming ‘USA USA USA USA’ in the stands… I dunno.

  26. veryhabby says:

    At the end of the day, Boston deserved to win this series. I have to give them that. It was luck that won vrs us and if the same had happened vrs Vanc I would have been very ticked off. but when you play stellar D system that makes your very very good goalie seem like the best goalie ever (hey isn’t that the way habs play?) you have to give them credit. they had 3 lines that could score 5 on 5 (what the habs still lack) and they had a grinding 4th line that took no dump penalties but forechecked and changed the mood of the game every time on the ice (again what habs lack).

    so yes, I love my habs and I believe we are a playoff team (has proven the last 2 yrs with this bunch). I don’t care so much about size. I care that we can have 3 lines that can score 5 on 5 and not depend on our PP to lead the way. And I want to see a grinding- not goon- 4th line. Having DD, Pyatt, Darche as our 4th line isn’t the way to go. White is the right type, and Moen should be but isn’t always. We need a few more bodies upfront cause our D can do exactly what the Bruins D did…but our frwds can’t yet.

  27. StanJonathan says:

    Hey Habs fans, all I have to say as a Bs fan is that it wouldn’t have been right to win the Cup without having gone through Montreal. I don’t mean that as a boast, but more of a compliment. That was a crazy series. But to say Chara’s hit was worse than Rome’s is absolutely moronic. No comparison between rubbing somebody out along the boards and head hunting. Unfortunate what happened, and hope the kid from Connecticut is ok, but come one…that his was totally different than squaring to line somebody up with a head hunting cheap shot a la Rome.

  28. B915 says:

    I do believe there needs to be complete consistency as far as penalties being called and the punishment that is deserved,having been on both side of that Chara on Pac and Cooke on Savard, it’s lousy to see any competitive athlete get severely hurt. I hope Pac is doing well and also Raymond can recover from there injuries. I know my team played with an edge especially after Horton went down and they did play hard and never quit…..without Tim Thomas who knows who have won the cup

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      You’re okay. Others, not so much. Cheers. Congratulations. Just wait till next year. 😉

      • HalifaxHabs says:

        don’t buy it Bald Bird… right up until this morning all of this clowns posts were cheap shots at Habs fans in many many posts… just check his history if you want to see for yourself.. The guy doesn’t deserve your respectful reply.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      B915, you seem like a nice person, intelligent even, so I have to wonder: did your parents make you watch the Bruins while you were growing up in order to earn your allowance. Or did it start out you were trying to impress a girl … wait, I take that back.
      Workplace concussion?
      Condition of employment?
      A predilection for even-tempered contrarianism?
      Bad reaction to some medication that induced a permanent personality disorder?
      I give up. Just what makes you tick?
      Know thine enemy, that’s my motto.

      • HalifaxHabs says:

        see my comment above John… the only respectful Bruins fan I’ve seen on this board is “BsFan4Life”.

        • JohnBellyful says:

          Hmmmn, maybe it’s him I’m thinking of. I knew there is one Bruin troll who visits this site who approaches consciousness.
          Okay, BsFan4Life, if you’re reading this thread, I’d welcome hearing your response. We might have a cure.

  29. crazyhabsfan says:

    Why hasn’t Muller been offered a promotion?? It will be a very bad day if/when they lose him this summer. Jack will never coach a team to a Cup, look what he did in Ottawa. Had all the freaking talent in the world and blew it. Does PG really think he’s the right man for the job?

    • TomNickle says:

      Replace Lalime with Price and Martin has three Cups. At least.

      On Muller, he must do a very poor interview.

      • krob1000 says:

        Replace anyone of our dmen not named Subban or Wiz last year with Chara and we have the cup.
        Chara and Pronger are the two most influential dmen I have seen in my lifetime defensively. They are huge, mean and skilled…they are hockeys equivelent to Deion Sanders in his prime, they take away half of the playying surface for half of the game….that is one heck of a start. Add in an all world goalie (who I admittedly never really bought into and thought would fold in the long term)…great depth and yo0u have a heck of a team.

        I don’t buy everyone’s fascination with size as Krejci,Ryder, Marchand and Recchi were their best offensive players alog with Bergeron. Horton scored some big goals but he did not play big hockey IMO and Lucic was a no show for most of the playoffs. They actaully adapted to our model more than one would think up front and went with depth and three scoring capable lines….they also stocked up heavily at the deadline.

        Hats off to the BRuins…..I still hate em…but hats off for now….they were a complete team, depth, goaltending, stellar d mainly because of Chara and they had some serious heart……and Greg Campbell of course had to help….lol.

        Marchand is the best pest this league has seen in sometime and I am not looking forward to us playing that little puke for the next several years because he has some serious skills and has instantly become my least favourite but admittedly really good hockey player int he NHL.

        I am happy for Ryder, happy for Kaberle even, happy for Bergeron most of all and have always liked Chara (pacioretty incident aside). I liked Julien in Montreal too…..the Bruins played well and we must be somewhat proud in knowing that we were one goal from derailing them…..or maybe one healthy body….hard to say but good news is we are only two weeks awy from July 1 and something that won’t involve the Bruins

  30. kempie says:

    I just want to take a mo and sincerely thank Mr. Boone for all his hard work and for providing the live game blogs all year. I really enjoy it and I’m not the only one. Thanks man.

  31. Grumpyoldhab says:

    The NHL will be making an announcement shortly. They have come up with a way to add interest to the All-star break. During the All-star break they will officially announce the name of the team that they will support for the Stanley Cup unlike this year where their support was not publicly acknowledged.

    • issie74 says:

      It will probably be NJ Devils since they signed Kovalchuk to that big contract,fined the team for attempting to arrange such a long term,plus they had to move salary and still do.I heard the final tally could be close to $200.m everything included,and they finished at the bottom of the league with very few fans.I think they will need a bailout.LOL


  32. Mr_MacDougall says:

    I am curious as to what the posters in HIO think the ceiling for Lars Eller is. Can he become a “Backsrtom WSH” type? I have no idea what to expect from the kid.. or is he a career bottom six?

    Also, Pacioretty was on pace for a 30 goal season last year, does he get 30 in the upcoming season? Will PK get 15G and 50 pts? Who will lead the Habs in scoring? Price be a Vezina candidate?

    And the big one. what players on the current roster do you see leading the Habs to the Cup?

    i’d love to hear some opinions on these topics..

    • TomNickle says:

      My ceiling for Eller is somewhere in between Plekanec and Toews.

      He’s very similar to Toews and has his offensive upside but not his defensive upside.

      I believe he’ll be our #1 centre in three years.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Do you see him playing most the upcoming season with Darche?

        PS If he reaches that potential, PG made one of the best deals in recent memory for the Habs.

        • TomNickle says:

          It’s up in the air. Depends on when he can get healthy. I see him playing with Moen and Kostitsyn to be honest. That’s assuming that Gauthier adds somebody else to play with Cammalleri and Plekanec though.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            agreed, 3rd line looking like AK/Eller/Moen. Really hope we can pick up someone for 1st line duties, I do think Maxpac fits well with G & G.

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            Sure hope so, adding a winger for one year would be ideal.. keeping $$ ready for Price and Pk…

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I really like Eller, but think he will be a #2 centerman for us career wise. I just don’t see the finish in his hands, at least not yet. It really is a shame he is spending his summer rehabbing a bad shoulder. I think this was a key offseason in his development and that will definitely be slowed up. Long term however, I think he is going to be an excellent 2 way centreman for us.

      MaxPac has all the tools to be a 30 goal man for us and provide that power forward we have lacked for so long.

      PK keeps getting better, and no doubt Price in for the Vezina next year.

      Key is Gomez making changes and what if any players PG can bring in. We need to upgrade by adding 1-2 bigger forwards and 1 rugged D man.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Do you consider the emergence of Pacioretty as adding a bigger forward?

        • HabinBurlington says:

          It will feel that way if he continues his progression. But he is our only bigger forward with hands right now. Moen just doesn’t have them, we have to have a player of decent grit/size/skill with Plex and Cammi. That line changes its effectiveness immediately with the proper help.

    • issie74 says:

      That’s what we are all hoping for but at his age we may not know for awhile.


  33. RetroMikey says:

    “HIO is not happy that Boston won the Cup”……well RetroMIkey is not happy that the city of Vancouver turned into a debacle after the game. What a disgrace! Poor sportsmanship!
    So cheers to Boston, an original 6 Stanley Cup winner!
    Boston will only lose Kaberle, Ryder and Recchi next season, so Gauthier, get off your ass and build a winner on this team and get the bigger and physical players we need and if we have to trade smurfs like Gionta, Plekanec, Cammy and a DMan in Gorges, so be it!
    If not, Boston will be walking all over us again!
    Big is better!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Congratulate on the team that broke Pacioretty’s neck and called him a little faker and the team doctors a bunch of scam artists while thumbing their nose at league rules by employing the corrupt Discipline chief’s son? Not ****ing ever.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

      • RetroMikey says:

        Blah, blah, blah! Will you ever stop whining and crying?
        Get on with it! Move forward, not backwards!
        Sulking about Pacioretty’s neck day in and out will not change the way the NHL is run and the Bruins will not change their style.
        So hope you enjoyed the series and address our weaknesses what we need to do to compete this fall on this site.
        Don’t be a poor sport if Habs fans here like myself criticize the team.
        Like I’ve said, this team of ours have issues upfront and on D if we don;t sign bigger, grittier players or if the Wiz is not signed.
        You can’t count on Carey Price bailing us out again as he did this past season.

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          All you do is show up and whine and cry that Montreal isn’t built the way you think it should be most of the time.

          I don’t like that Chara was rewarded for trying to end a player’s career this season. I’m funny like that, I still had trouble on a certain level wanting DET to do well the last two years with Bertuzzi on their team. I still detest Justin Williams half a decade after what he did to Koivu in the playoffs.

          – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
          SF09 on Twitter

          • RetroMikey says:

            Wow, dude, you have serious issues if you hold grudges for so long.
            I’m sure many agree that in today’s NHL hockey, getting bigger and physical complimented with skill will make a team go very far in the playoffs,
            Life’s too short, let bygones be bygones.
            Pacioretty will come back, but will he be that power forward we all label him to be?
            By the way, I enjoyed the last minutes of the telecast being aired, the number of Canadians on Boston, including the coaching staff and management which outnumbered Vancouver.
            Proud to be Canadian.
            “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            I’m a Habs fan and a hockey fan with a long memory when it comes to people avoiding justice for their acts on the ice. Nothing wrong with that, it should be discussed how Williams got away with the high stick in 2006, how Bertuzzi avoided being thrown out of the NHL for a criminal act and how Chara skated away on what he did.

            Instead, PK Subban has become apparently one of the biggest villains in the NHL, seemingly on the level of Cooke with the same desire by many fans to see violence meted out against him. Lapierre is apparently the worst human being in the Western Conference. That’s always stuck in my throat Mikey, that somehow a cheap shot artist with the occasional fight under his belt is better for the game than an agitator.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

      • issie74 says:

        SF09 I am counting on you for information on the up coming draft,as well as the possibility of someone from the farm making the big team this year.To do that you will have to ignore RetroMikey for awhile.


    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Of course you didn´t see the disgrace on the ice. A team led by a man who deliberately injured another player and who should have been suspended for the rest of the season won the Cup and you´re happy because it´s an orginal 6 team. Ridiculous.

      No team ever won the Cup that deserved it as little as Boston. Btw: Isn´t now the time to stop pretending you´re a Habs fan, to celebrate your beloved Bruins and to f… off from here?

      • RetroMikey says:

        Been a Habs poster longer than you have junior on this site.
        So please respect other comments from HIO fans here and watch your mouth with Tide…..poor sport.

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

        • HalifaxHabs says:

          you may have been a poster longer than Bob, but not one single person on this website respects your opinion, so I wouldn’t be talking down to Bob.

  34. HabinBurlington says:

    Last post for me as it pertains to Vancouver (prior to this final I never cared about them and I get to go back to not caring about them), how badly is this team mentally affected by the loss and the way it came about. Certainly, just as our team ran out of Dmen, they lost key dmen through the playoffs.

    But specifically, will the Sedin’s recover from the fact they were shut down completely by the Bruins, and were it not for Kesler, perhaps don’t even make the Finals.

    Luongo, I am sure he will remain cocky, but how can that entire roster not look at him with doubt going forward. No matter how he plays next regular season, there must be players on that roster saying, he is a choker.

    Is Gillis going to make changes? Or is he going to bring back the same core roster and just hope Sedins and Luongo get better?

  35. Caper says:

    Anyone hear something on the Markov contract talks?

    • TomNickle says:

      Not happening this week. Could be done before the draft though.

      • Caper says:

        Is this seen as a done deal

        • TomNickle says:

          Nope. Don Meehan said yesterday that a contract won’t be done this week but it could be before the draft. I’d say it’s 50/50 at this point. I don’t think the team wants to give Markov more than one year with the pending contract renewals they have. If they can’t find a landing spot for Gomez, Markov can’t be paid $5 million beyond this coming season.

        • issie74 says:

          They should get it done soon,he is very important to the club.
          Why does everyone talk about his knee,if he is hurt he comes off the cap.I know the Habs have to contribute a lot of their revenu to Bettman’s slush fund but don’t skimp on players like Markov.


      • HabinBurlington says:

        I still think the Markov signing will happen. I am suspicious that perhaps the reason nothing announced or signed, is that indeed perhaps PG is working on a trade that affects the cap on our team and other things have to be clarified before signing is done. I just don’t see them not being able to work something out with Markov, and the delay in announcement is making me thing something brewing.

  36. higginrs says:

    1. Boston got the Cup. Good for them. Classy Habs fans, stay classy. The gauntlet has been dropped, now it’s time to man-up and go get the freekin’ Cup back. No more whining about if Chara was suspended. I personally think JM doesn’t create a fuss behind the bench at bad reffing, cause he expects his players to rise above and win no matter what – good calls or bad.

    2. Rioting! What in the world is going on? Is this just drunken trouble makers and large-crowd dynamics going badly, or is it a window into the psyche of hockey fans, or is t pent up hostilities within society in general in BC? Whatever it is, may the Habs fans never imitate. Absolute lack of class.

    3. Looking forward into the summer and next year. Here’s hoping our Habs continue to develop strong team chemistry, as well as great physical conditioning. The battle is won on a team that sticks together and plays as a team, as well as on who can physically meet thee demands of an absurdly long season, followed by an absurdly long post season. Endurance is the trick. Habs burnt out by the time they met Philly last year; Vancouver worn out by the time they met the Bs this year.

  37. JayBee says:

    I hope PG’s watching…I really do.

    You can’t build a small team that relies on the officials to fight their battles. Boston won fair and square, but the officiating (or lack thereof) benefited their style of play more than it did the Canucks. Sadly, I have the feeling management will use this as a “we’re actually closer than we think”…and re-sign all the guys from last year. Get used to seeing a plug on the 1st line.

    On a larger scale, it bothers me how officiating changes during the season. Why is a hook a penalty on April 20th but not a penalty on June 15th? Why is interference a penalty on June 1st but not on June 15th? It pisses me off how inconsistent the reffing is…if you want to put the whistles away…don’t wait until game 7 to do it.

    I could have sworn we were trying to get away from the hockey of old (clutch and grab) but it seems like it rears its ugly head when the games are important. Vancouver was built for the new NHL and Boston was built for the old NHL…and look who won.

    • TomNickle says:

      The officiating is consistently inconsistent from October through June.

      Thousands of infractions go without punishment.

    • ProHabs says:

      Good post. We witnessed that many times this year when we played the Bruins that you cannot count on the refs to protect you.

      It made me sick yesterday seeing those bunch of Bruins win the cup. But the Bruins management did put high expectations on thier team and put alot of pressure on the coach and players. They made it clear that nothing short of cup or finals was good enough. Watch the difference in the emotion of Neely and Cierelli compared to Gauthier when PK forced overtime in Game 7. Gauthier was smiling with a “this is a great surprise” attitude. When Boston eliminated the Habs, Gauthier kept saying what a solid and successful year it was. Was it really? What the Habs management needs to do is, like the Bruins management did, RAISE THE EXPECTATIONS.

      It is time to bring in a winner like Patrick Roy to run the team. He won’t accept losing. And he won’t accept our Habs to be pushed around and slapped around by the Bruins.

      Best example, do you think Neely et all. would have just let Gomez continue to suck all year and just keep playing him. I doubt it. And I doubt Patrick Roy would have let Gomez get away with robbing the Habs of 7 million bucks this year. RAISE THE EXPECTATIONS.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Roy has no experience in the professional coaching or management. No thanks, people can chat up maybe Yzerman was a mistake as he had been working in the Red Wings organization under Holland since his retirement but Roy’s experience does not stretch beyond the Q right now.

        Tired of this ‘everyone has to go stark raving mad when something doesn’t go their way’ want for hockey coachs/GMs. What did Mike Gillis flipping out do for his team? **** all. The ability to throw a tantrum does not make you a better man to run a hockey team.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • ProHabs says:

          Roy would not have accepted what happened in the 8-6 game this year and would have done something to protect the players after that. I really think after that game, 1-2 guys should have been added for the sole purpose of protecting our players against the Bruins. It was so obvious they were out to get us and they were not going to follow the rules to do so. The refs have proven they are useless and won’t protect skill. If something had been done, I really think the MaxPac incident wouldn’t of happened. And don’ t say “Savard got concussed and the Bruins had Chara, Lucic”. The Bruins knew they could do whatever they wanted to us physically, without any consequences whatsoever. And MaxPac paid the price.

          Say what you want about Roy, but he has experience running a team (even if it only a Q team) but most of all he is a winner who has been through the trenches, is emotional about his team and won’t accept losing. And who knows, he might bring in fresh ideas.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            I will still say Savard got concussed and than Nathan Horton not even two weeks ago while they played for the Big Bad Bruins. And for the last bloody time, name one goddamn person in the whole wide world you could put on the ice to make sure you keep Zdeno Chara, The Mountain That Skates honest. That player doesn’t exist! Chara did what he did, no one could have intimidated him away from doing that because he has no physical equal on the ice. Who’s going to challenge him, name me one guy right now, active NHLer who’s going to get into Chara’s face and make him think twice.

            I did say what I want b/c my thought stands, I have had it with amateur hour in the Habs Front Office. Roy wants to come into the NHL and be an assistant and learn the ropes, that’s fine but I’m not skipping him to the top.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

      • JayBee says:


        That is so true. I have no idea what the Habs expectations were. I remember back in the 80’s and early 90’s. A 1st round exit was a failure….didn’t matter who was injured… Imagine if the Habs lost their top line center and a top winger? That’s what I admire most about the Bruins…they lost KEY players and didn’t make stupid excuses about roofs or injuries…they STILL won!

        Habs management every year say their goal is to win a cup…but I don’t see it. I think they’re happy with a round or two and that’s about it.

        While Gauthier was crying about injuries and turning his phone off, Chiarelli was working the phones and landing key pieces for a cup run without his 1st line center.

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          When did Gauthier cry about injuries?

          Let’s not pretend Bruins faced the same issue. if Chara had missed the season for Boston starting from say, December (combine Markov and Gorges missing period with MTL) where would they be? Savard could not arguably have been in the plans from the start of the season anyway looking at how he was post-Cooke. Montreal did lose a top winger, in March as well.

          – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
          SF09 on Twitter

          • JayBee says:

            Did you miss his whole “roof” speech? That is one of the most pathetic things I’ve ever heard from a GM.

            Dude, Savard missed the entire season. He is an elite centerman. Love how you say he’s not part of the plans to support yoru argument. The same could be said for Markov…a guy who started the season injured.

            Pacioretty is a top winger now? He’s good and he did well for us, but he was a callup…which again speaks to the lack of depth on this team. Patches was supposed to play the season in the AHL… Depth is huge and the Habs don’t have it. Depth is what enabled Boston to be able to get past the Horton injury…

            Regardless, why go after Sopel then if Gauthier wanted to give up the season? The moves do not make sense…and if you’re going to defend a GM doing nothing to address Halpern being on the 1st line, then I don’t know what to tell you.

            At that time only Markov and Gorges were injured. Markov was replaced with Wiz…the injury excuse is pathetic.

          • SeriousFan09 says:


            How can one argue that Savard was a part of the plan when he was a shadow of himself in the 2010 playoffs (When he shouldn’t have been playing) and spent a summer with issues in concussion recovery? Bruins brass had to know they could not count on him going into the 10-11 season and they approached the season with that in mind. Montreal did not have that concern with anyone on their roster.

            Pacioretty was our power forward this season, scoring at a clip very similar to Nathan Horton before he was injured. Depth comes from drafting a lot of the time and depth on the farm is what brought in DD, Patches, White and Weber this season.

            Never said PG gave up the season, the team still had to compete so he added the pieces he could to improve them for the post-season. Issue being those pieces weren’t enough to really replace what was lost because Gorges/Markov could not truly be replaced. Wisniewski may have filled in the hole Markov left offensively but defensively and from a leadership standpoint? He did not fill those roles and neither Sopel nor Mara could handle 20+ minutes like Gorges can. PG also couldn’t get caught having his pants yanked off in a trade, unless people here think the Dustin Penner or Tomas Kaberle acquisitions at the end of the day were really that impressive from a cost perspective.

            And I reiterate, if we consider Markov, Gorges combined to be equal to what Chara does for Boston (an arguable point I think) and Chara misses half the year and the playoffs for Boston, any chance they lift the Cup? Not a chance in hell.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

        • HabinBurlington says:

          No doubt Chiarelli did a good job adding Horton, and others. The key was his Kessel trade. In acquiring all those picks it gave him bonus room to throw other picks into other trades. He got killed in the Kaberle trade, but because he still has the 9th pick this year, that will be overlooked.

          PG did his best bringing in the Wiz and Sopel as our D was depleted. But he needs to have an A+ offseason for the habs this year. When was the last time we won a trade. Rivet? The book on Eller looks good, but we gave up a very good player to get him.

        • JayBee says:


          Then how can you say Markov was part of the plans after being injured in last year’s playoffs and bein injured to begin the season? If they couldn’t count on him, why did they only grab a center at the trade deadline? You really think the Bruins had written him off? You don’t think him not being around left a giant hole in their offense?

          You can make the exact same argument for Markov.

          We have 2 years of Markov being injured. At this point, I’m not counting on him. If he bounces back….great, but you can’t use an injury excuse for a guy you haven’t had in your lineup for 2 years.

          It seriously bothers me when Hab fans complain about injuries as if other teams don’t deal with them. Injuries are part of the game…which is why depth is so important.

          Lets hope Markov plays a full season this year…but if he doesn’t…I really don’t want to hear about the “But we lost Markov” excuse.

          Markov was replaced with Wiz. He’s not as good as Markov, but stop acting like Markov was not replaced. Gorges was replaced with Sopel and mara. Again, not as good, but still, PG did attempt to replace them…so don’t act like Markov/Gorges left a giant hole…as if the Habs had to call up players to fill their shoes.

          It’s not about Gauthier making a blockbuster deal. It’s about not addressing the glaring hole on the 1st line. Zherdev, Sturm were both available for nothing…but Gauthier felt better going into the playoffs with Halpern on the 1st line. This is not what I want in a GM. you look at Gauthier’s record and you see why he’s never won anywhere.

          Again…injuries are a part of the game…Hab fans seem to have been using that excuse for far too many years now. The B’s at this point are a better team, better run organization….better drafting, coaching, etc.. They’re superior all across the board. It sucks to admit, but it’s true.

  38. punkster says:

    OK, it’s over and done with finally. Now can we please get on with some real hockey for a change?

    Looking forward to next season with a positive attitude:
    – getting our wounded players back
    – possibility of picking up a big forward for the top 2 lines and maybe adding a D-man
    – watching PK and Eller mature
    – having arguably the league’s best goalie
    – seeing how some of our call ups perform
    – seeing how this year’s under performers step up
    – last but not least new boards at the Bell may just reduce our injuries and Lord knows that would be a plus

    It’s all upside.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • TomNickle says:

      Call me crazy but I still think something’s brewing on the trade front. And I’ll go out on a limb and say that either Brandon Sutter or Devon Setoguchi will be a Hab by July 15th.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        You’re crazy.

        (There are still Sutters playing?)

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        I’m keeping the old fingers crossed that Gauthier does something like you’re mentioning at the draft.

      • hab_skill says:

        Sutter is really good. Would love to see him in a habs uniform. Where did you hear this?

      • punkster says:

        I would assume that in the NHL there’s always something brewing on the trade front of every team. It’s just good business. Anyone who believes PG (or BG) would just be sitting back and doing nothing probably doesn’t understand business (or pro hockey for that matter). No idea who but there will be a few new faces.

        ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        I think Setoguchi will stay, if anything Marleau and Heatley are watching their backs. SJS knows the young guns have a lot more guts than those two, hell even Thornton showed he cared this year.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • TomNickle says:

          Good luck finding somebody to take Marleau’s contract. Heatley is tough to trade considering what you gave up for him in Doug Wilson’s shoes and the Sharks can part with Setoguchi to address needs on defense because they still have Couture, Pavelski and McGinn heading into the future.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            Marleau’s signed for 3 more years, not an untradeable contract as someone always figures ‘he’ll be different here’ when a player comes up for trade. Heatley was a clear case of robbing another team, what did SJS lose by sending away Cheechoo and Michaelek?

            I’d dangle Marleau at CLB for the 8th overall myself, draft Hamilton or Murphy. Shorter term than Carter if it doesn’t work out and he can play C with Nash.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

          • TomNickle says:

            Michalek is a big loss for that team and adding Heatley gave away the opportunity to pursue other players to compliment Thornton well.

            If Wilson didn’t give up on Marleau heading into his contract year, he won’t give up on Heatley this off-season.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      All good points, P’, and certainly grounds for optimism. I would add these points, specific areas the team can concentrate on during training camp, preseason and practices. Faceoffs would be one — have EVERY player take a turn at this until three or four emerge who show a knack in this department. Could be three defencemen, for all I care, as long as they get the job done more than half the time.
      Developing a robust fourth line would be another. A line also fully capable of sharing penalty killing responsibilities, so as not to waste the energies of our offensive-minded players.
      A third area would be drum out whatever impulses players have to commit stupid fouls, especially beyond their blue line.
      These are all within the realm of possibility with proper instruction and application of effort.

  39. habsnyc says:

    Habs are not supposed to let the Bruins win. This team now needs to win two Cups in order to be better than Boston. Boston still has the younger better offense and the older better goalie. Boston beat Montreal and Montreal did not make them pay.

    To me, the outlook remains bleak. What if the Flyers get a goalie, Washington stops folding, Stamkos improves or Crosby returns? Montreal has too much committed to players beyond their prime to be considered a contender.

    • TomNickle says:

      The Flyers without Pronger are a very beatable team.
      Washington without any secondary scoring are a very beatable team.
      The Lightning with no strong future on defense or in net are a very beatable team.
      And the Penguins with Fleury in net will always be a beatable team.

      Teams aren’t going to sabotage their own opportunities for success for the Habs to reach glory again. And I would rather the Habs beat those teams with their stars in the lineup than without.

      We have Price and Subban and budding stars like Pacioretty and Eller.

      I wouldn’t trade those four players for any four players from another team in the Eastern Conference.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        I’d agree with beatable for some of those teams but I’d remove the “very”.

        • TomNickle says:

          The Flyers were one of the worst teams in the NHL after they lost Pronger. They gave away a 20 point conference lead in the second half of the season.

          Washington caught fire in the second half of the year because they caught lightning in a bottle with hot goalies.

          Tampa are going into the future with Hedman and Dustin Tokarski. They just traded away their best prospect on defense and have absolutely nothing in their pipeline at that position.

          Marc Andre Fleury is a clone of Roberto Luongo. He’s as capable of putting up a stinker as he is playing well.

          There isn’t a team in the East that is scary. Not one. Even if you give Phili a goalie they’re toast without Pronger playing his best hockey. Lightning can’t spend on UFA’s after Stamkos, Purcell and Hedman get new contracts and have nothing coming from the farm, Penguins are the Penguins, Fleury makes them vulnerable no matter who they’re playing and the Caps can’t seem to win with Ovechkin taking 2 minute shifts everytime he’s on the ice.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            With the Capitals, it’s not just Ovechkin has to improve his game but that team has to stop expecting him to carry their asses. They’re notably a much weaker team when Ovechkin isn’t doing it all for them, they wait for him too often to be the difference. If PIT had done that in the 2009 Finals with Crosby, DET would have another Cup, so they went out and did it themselves.

            Fleury’s an improvement on Luongo and PIT has built a nice little D-group around him, they’ll always be dangerous because he CAN steal a series and Malkin/Crosby are still scary.

            Agree PHI will need Pronger back even with Bryz to go, Richards can’t seem to lead the team w/o him.

            TBL, you are correct about their back end, it was a nice little run this year but it was pardon the pun, lightning in a bottle with Bergenheim, Purcell and a lot of greybeard D.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

    • JayBee says:

      People still think that “anything can happen” in the playoffs…but look at the last 4 teams to reach the finals in the eastern conference…they were all stacked and had crazy depth and all favoured to win the cup.

      Habs do NOT have the team that can compete for a cup….yes, you can make a run and win a series or 2…but that’s about it. The Habs are currently built to win a series or 2. We’re a playoff contender, not a cup contender. Some moves need to be made and I feel like we don’t have the coaches, management and BALLS that can get it done. Gauthier and Martin are NOT winners.

      You have Halpern on your 1st line at the trade deadline and you make up some stupid story about a roof? Good GM’s have balls…Boston went out and got Peverly, Kennedy and Kaberle…Gauthier gave up.

      • TomNickle says:

        I’m sorry but Boston didn’t have a Kennedy on their team despite the family’s history in that city.

        As for the depth issue. Markov, Pacioretty and Gorges going down kind of eliminate the possibility of acquiring solid depth when you have to spend to replace them.

        But keep telling yourself that this team has no depth.

        • JayBee says:

          I meant Kelly.

          When you have to play Moen, Darche, Halpern and Pyatt on your top 2 lines….then you have a serious depth issue.

          I don’t know how you can look at the Habs and say they have depth…the closest thing they may have to depth is/defense…aside from that…they have no depth anywhere else.

          • TomNickle says:

            Eller and Andrei Kostitsyn were playing on their third line when Pacioretty was in the lineup. Those guys are top six forwards on three quarters of the teams in the NHL. So I believe they have depth at forward.

          • JayBee says:

            Eller a top 6 player? He’s just barely a top 9 player. I’ll give you Andrei, but at the time guess who was on the 1st line? Take your pick between Darche, Moen and Halpern. Then look at Gomez who stunk up the joint.

            This is not depth. Habs do not have depth…I think Gauthier has tried to address that though…

    • Hobie Hansen says:


      The one team out of the ones you mentioned is the Pens. If I were to go to Vegas and be forced to chose a team that will take the cup before the 2011/12 starts, it would be Penguins.

      Crosby and Malkin will be super hungry.

      And yes, if the Flyers get their golatender and stay healthy, they could be dangerous too.

      It won’t be easy for any team in the East next season.

  40. jmsheehy19 says:

    I just looked at the numbers, and the goalies the Bruins faced after Price really did collapse. The save percentage in the Van series was .901, the Tampa series was .900, and the Philly series was .858 (assuming all my math was correct).

    All three combined for an .891

    What’s even more insane is that those numbers are actually bolstered by Mike Smith and Cory Schneider coming in and playing lights out in relief of Roloson and Luongo after the games were already effectively in hand.

    PS. remember all those posters who used to want to trade price + for Luongo?

  41. Old Bald Bird says:

    There’s been a lot of dissing of Vancouver, but in hindsight they were simply done after three very tough series plus the injuries. It’s something like the Habs against Philly last year.

  42. kakey says:

    On a lighter note…

    Just realized that Visnovsky and Wisniewski both played for the Ducks during the 09-10 season. I wonder if they were often together as defensive pair but it would be a mouthful for the play by play guy to describe them passing the puck.

  43. B915 says:

    It turns out the Habs series was the springboard for the B’s….getting past a nemesis is always good….Habs not far away for the cup I believe ….Price is good goalie and the speed is a problem for the B’s….I just hope that Hab fans don’t really believe there was a fix..Hockey is a passionate game with passionate players and fans like you and me ….enjoy your summer and can’t wait for the next year to start….and the draft will be here soon…B’s pick 9th thanks to the Kessel deal

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Pretty classy post B915. Congrats on winning. I don’t call it a “Fix”, but it is impossible for me to overlook the obvious wrongs going on at NHL head office.

      From the documented proof of Colon protecting his son and sending emails to refs on how to call games, and still not being fired till after the season. And he was not even fired but repositioned, his influence will still be great. From the hit by Chara, which was and is a worse hit than that by Rome, yet unpunished. Then to be completed by the non call on Boychuck on Raymond. (at least call interference).

      The refs allowed a complete return to clutch grab interfere in this final. Your Bruins play that game far better than anyone else in the NHL this year, you won Congrats!

      But even Bruin fans should wonder about a league whose head punisher called your talented Marc Savard a little Faker, and you guys don’t seem to care. Very strange….

      Enjoy your cup, we plan on taking it back next year.


      • BsFanforLife says:

        I actually care about it HiB. While I really have a hard time believing in the whole conspiracy thing that is brought up by some fans there is definitely a conflict of interest in the looks of it all and I dont blame people for feeling that way.

        Thats why I have been hoping to hear SOME news from Shanahan that there will be a committee formed to handle discipline. Unfortunately I feel that if he handles it solely that eventually it will become the same issue becuase of the length of time away from the game as a player and such.

        The Board of Governors is another story that I could vent about but I wont. Long story short I hope that these changes will cause some more consistancy in discipline.

        Have a great summer. See you next year!

      • B915 says:

        Thanks….I do believe there needs to be complete consistency as far as penalties being called and the punishment that is deserved,having been on both side of that Chara on Pac and Cooke on Savard, it’s lousy to see any competitive athlete get severely hurt. I hope Pac is doing well and also Raymond can recover from there injuries. I know my team played with an edge especially after Horton went down and they did play hard and never quit…..without Tim Thomas who knows who have won the cup

    • JF says:

      B195 – Nice post. Congrats and enjoy the victory.

  44. Hab Hater says:

    BRUINS WIN THE CUP !!!! I could watch Chara hoist the Cup over and over. Be happy that Habs didn’t win as your city would still be burning.

    • SmartDog says:

      C’mon admit it. You’re watching Chara through one of those see-me-naked machines they use in the airport aren’t you?

    • Chuck says:

      Apparently, Colin Campbell is already sending out the invites for the party that he’s going to host with his son when they get to have the Cup for a day.

    • G-Man says:

      Up yours until you cry, tool.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Seriously dude. Get some class…..oh I forgot you were a bruins fan

    • 123456 says:

      yea i bet you like watching him reach up in the air. nice dive by chara when higgins collided with him – really higgens put that orge down?? he takes a dive and then tries to stay on the ice – was he hurt or not. . . whats that word i want ot call him. . . oh yea – a P U S S Y

      seriously it’s fine boston won the cup – they played lights out against vancouver and the canucks three wins they barely won – bruins were by far the better team – but their fans posting on here? get a life…… if the habs won the cup i would not be anywhere near another teams site….

    • HabinBurlington says:

      The fact that you make the effort to find this website only to type what you did shows your complete childishness and complete stupidity. Just knowing that you needed to come here to do that is enough for me, as I now know that you will probably have a hard time in life just holding a job. Good luck paying your internet provider this month you complete Jackass!

  45. Hobie Hansen says:

    Tim Thomas is all one has to say. The Bruins were built for the playoffs and anytime they got into a bit of an offensive funk, be it for a couple minutes or a couple periods, Thomas was there to save the day.

    Just get the puck in deep, put pucks towards the net and Thomas will be back there to take care of the rest.

    Aside from all the controversy, which was out of the control of the Bruins’ players, they won the cup the old school way with toughness and good goaltending. They wore down every team they played because of their size and hardnosed style of play.

    Before the start of the game I knew that the Sedins had been neutralized, Kessler was on the limp and Raymond was out. After those guys, who else was going to score?

    The one thing I can say about the Canadiens involvement in all of this is that we were the only team that really had Boston on the run. Sure TB took them to a 7th game, as did Vancouver but I think we had them in the most trouble.

    Although we’d all like to see Montreal become tougher to play against and a bit more durable – I think what gives the Bruins the most problems is speed. If the Habs can avoid injuries and maybe bring in a tough guy to at least answer the bell when the games get out of hand, we currently have what it takes to beat the Bruins!


    Oh and guys, get ready to swallow your pride because the Bruins and their fans are going to really enjoy rubbing this cup in our faces for at least the next year. Tough to be a hockey fan sometimes guys.

    • shiram says:

      Alot of people give all the credit to Thomas, and he has been great and is worthy of the praise he gets, but most often people fail to mention the excellent defensive work accomplished by the Bruins, they chogged the center, and most shots came from the periphery, and when it got tight around Thomas’s net, they always had Chara or someone in there to save the day.

      Thomas was great, but the team played to protect him, and it worked to great effect,

      • TomNickle says:

        No kidding Shiram. Has there ever been an elite goalie that dropped so many brutal rebounds into dangerous areas. His defensemen didn’t get enough credit for an amazing job boxing out the house. The Habs took advantage of his rebounds because they were willing to pay the price to get to the net. Didn’t seem like anyone else was.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        That’s true, the Bruins have a great defence, but Thomas was the best goalie in the NHL without a doubt this season.

        You can tell at the moment that he is able to lock himself in and block out the distractions better than Price or Luongo at this point of their careers.

  46. shiram says:

    The Bruins won, and as much as I dislike them, have to give them props on a hard fought journey to the Cup.

    Beyond that, heh awful finals, horrid reffing, terrible disciplinary calls, boring games and the thug hockey wins it all.
    Kinda glad it’s over really, and soon the focus can be brougth back upon what interests me, the Habs!

  47. derfab says:

    Barf. The league promoted this stuff and got what they deserved. This is not a fringe event This is the fan “base”, as it has been here and elsewhere. Young men spend their money and time being passionate and fanatical and then get violent when they feel cheated or diminished by the absence of another contest.

  48. smiler2729 says:

    Vancouver’s a true soccer city.

    “If the Bruins played the Taliban, I’d root for the Taliban”

  49. Habby says:

    Can we stop talking about those bumbleBs until their goalie wins the Vezina or even better, until next season? Please and thanks.

    Now is the time to focus on the draft. Get your predictions in and let’s see what happens. And a bit of info that might be of interest: the Canadiens flew in Ty Rattie, ranked 17th overall by Central Scouting, for a tour and interview. Do we need a guy like this in the future of our franchise?

    Link to his ongoing draft diary: http://www.airdrieecho.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3171960

    The drive for 25 is alive!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Thanks for the link Habby, kid obviously has a nose for the net, been a scorer at every level he plays at. Decent numbers for first year in WHL. 6 Footer with skill, and a western cdn boy. His character seems real good. No red flags jumping out on this kid.

      • Habby says:

        You’re welcome! And thanks for the info. He’s listed at 5’11” so I don’t know if many of the people here would be happy but I say he doesn’t look bad.

        The drive for 25 is alive!

  50. Thomas Le Fan says:

    I, for one, took a dislike to this Canuck team and now their rioting fans and am glad the Bruins won.
    Look at this way. Last year we lost to the Stanley Cup runner up. This year we were barely beaten by the eventual champs. I have no doubt we could have defeated this questionable Canucks squad and with a couple of bounces we could have easily had the opportunity. To sum it up, not a bad years for our Habs and good things to come when they’re all healthy!
    2011-2012? Bring it on! GO HABS!

  51. Chuck says:

    The mourning (sic) after, and it’s still just as painful, knowing how well the Habs played the the Bruins, coming within one goal, and yet the Canucks fold like a cheap suit.

    • HardHabits says:

      Round 1 is much different than round 4.

      • Chuck says:

        Not really; you’ve got to win 16 games to win the Cup, and the first four games in that run are just as important to the outcome as the final four.

        • HardHabits says:

          Yes really. Very different. The Vancouver team that played round 4 was not the same team that played round 1. Not in personnel, certainly not in intensity.

          It’s like a Asteroids. You start off round 1 with 100% shield and 100% hull but by round four the shield is at 0% and the hull is at 50% from all the shots taken and asteroids hit.

          • Chuck says:

            Boston had to play four rounds, too. And although they only suffered one injury (for three man-games lost) they stayed focused on their game plan; Vancouver allowed themselves to get sucked into a style of play for which their team was not well-suited. When faced with injuries and adversity, they weren’t willing to do what needed to be done to win. And I’d like to think that in the same scenario that the Habs would have at least put up a better fight.

      • TomNickle says:

        Yes it is but I think a reasonable person can conclude that with Pacioretty, Gorges and Markov the Bruins wouldn’t have made it through the Habs.

  52. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Another playoff series where the “European Superstars” (Sedins, et al) pull a disappearing act when their “skills” are needed most. Meanwhile we get North American players like Chelios, Recchi, etc. that show up and win cups well into their advanced middle-aged years. There, I said it!

  53. Clay says:

    Does this mean HabsProfessor was right all along? NAG won the cup…

    Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.

    Winston Churchill

  54. JF says:

    Painful as it is, I have to congratulate the Boston Bruins. They were the better team by a country mile, and Tim Thomas’s outstanding playoffs matched his phenomenal year.

    When the season began, I thought the Bruins were the best team in the East, and they proved me right, both during the regular season and by their play in the post-season. They started slowly against us but got steadily better. I think they played four sub-par games all playoffs – the first two against us, and Games 1 and 4 against Tampa. Against the Canucks they were in every game and could have won any of the three they lost. In their four victories, they outplayed the Canucks decisively in every aspect of the game, making them look like cellar-dwellers.

    The Canucks had injuries, but I think that apart from those, that team showed they lacked the character to win the Stanley Cup. The core of the team was the one that collapsed in successive playoffs against Chicago. Watching them do it again this year and recover in the nick of time to stumble on, I was dubious about their chances in the Final. And in each of their losses to the Bruins, they were blown out.

    As for the Habs, these playoffs have shown us what we need to do. We came within a goal of eliminating the Bruins, but I doubt we would have survived four rounds. We’re not tough enough. Round 2 would have started for us without Eller and Desharnais, and more players would have fallen as the playoffs went on. The Canucks went down like flies. The Bruins lost a single players in the entire run. We need to add some muscle and grit to protect our smaller forwards, and we need to add scoring – although it’s ironical that the Habs, one of the lowest-scoring teams in the League, scored ten more goals against the Bruins than the high-scoring Canucks did.

    • MathMan says:

      I’m sorry, but the Bruins were not the best club in the East. Maybe 4-6th place. They rode the percentages, but they were never a dominant club. The Habs were probably better, injuries and all.

      Even on paper it’s visible, if you just cut away the hype. The Bruins are as shallow a team as there was in these playoffs. They have four, maybe five good forwards, two good defensemen, and a great goalie. Then they have a decent group of grinders. These aren’t the makings of an elite club. They were using Ference-Boychuck as a second pairing, for crying out loud! Put those guys on the Habs and both might well end up in the pressbox!

      To me, the ludicrous overhyping the Bruins is the most frustrating part of the whole deal. And now the Bs have created expectations for themselves they don’t have the horses to meet.

      • HardHabits says:

        What’s frustrating is you seem to ignore the facts when they stare you in the face. You’re like a Christian apologist trying to make a case for Adam and Eve versus Evolution or that the Earth is 12,000 years old as opposed to being hundreds of millions of years old.

        The Bruins had the 2nd best goals differential in the league after Vancouver. They scored 51 more goals than they let in. They have a balanced attack coming from 4 lines they can roll. They have a 2nd over-all pick, a Vezina and Conne Smythe winning goalie, a Norris Trophy worthy defense-man. They play a solid defensive system and in the games they won against Vancouver they thoroughly demolished them and in the games they lost they lost by 1 goal.

        All play-offs you tried your best to write the Bruins off while I continually said they would not only give the Canucks a run for their money but would possibly win it all.

        Who was right?

        • MathMan says:

          The Bruins rode the percentages. They were lucky on offense and rode a literally historic goaltending performance. Neither of these factors are sustainable (unless you genuinely believe Tim Thomas is the best goalie of all time), therefore I don’t consider them part of team strength. Their sustainable factors (puck possession, outchancing) and their on-paper roster are pretty good, but they’re not an elite clubs in the things teams can carry over. Granted, this is not something that comfortable media narratives will talk about, but it’s not like there’s much actual hockey analysis in general there, unfortunately.

          So no, they weren’t the best team in the East, or in the league. I always keep in mind something I heard René Lecavalier say, as the Habs were skating around with the ’86 Cup on TV: “So the team that won wasn’t the best team, but the champion team?”

          It distills an important point about sports in general, and hockey in particular: the better team wins often, but often doesn’t win. Especially in hockey where parity and chance are very high. Unless you realize and factor that in, you can’t analyze hockey effectively.

          • HardHabits says:

            We both left out one major point that you alluded to in your puck-possession comment. Face-off percentages. The Bruins absolutely dominated in that regard.

            I said the series would boil down to goaltending, face-offs and 5 on 5 scoring. I was correct.

            You can’t analyze hockey effectively if you rely on stats. Teams that look good on paper don’t necessarily look good on ice.

      • JF says:

        I disagree with your assessment of the Bruins as shallow. Yes, they had great goaltending (and, despite last year’s somewhat anomalous outcome, great goaltending is an essential ingredient of a Cup champion), but they are a deep, well-balanced team in addition to that. They have no scoring superstars, but their top three lines all contributed significantly, and their defence is very under-rated. For the most part, they did a great job of collapsing in front of Thomas and preventing second chances, and they got better as the playoffs went on.

        It’s foolish to think we’re as good a team as they are. If we had been, we would have won the series. Mind you, I don’t think we’re far off, and it’s quite possible that a healthy Habs team would have beaten them. I still don’t think we would have lasted four playoff rounds. We need more even-strength scoring and, as I said above, we need more muscle.

        As for any “ludicrous overhyping” of the Bruins, why be sour? They were the best even-strength team in the playoffs, they outplayed their opponents, they won. And, while officiating might have influenced the outcome in some of the earlier series (ours and the one against Tampa), I don’t think it was a factor here. Finally, if they will be unable to meet the expectations they’ve created, do Habs fans need to care about that?

  55. BsFanforLife says:

    Im sorry to see what happened in Vancouver and its pretty sad that, again, a small portion of idiot fans have to create a bad name for an entire fanbase.

    With that I shall sign off till next season. Good luck with the offseason and look forward to more lively debate next season. Take care all.

  56. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Which deal is the worst and which one would you rather see on the Habs:

    A) Scott Gomes: $7.4 mill cap hit 3 more seasons
    B) Roberto Luongo: $5.33 mill cap hit for 12 more seasons
    C) Vincent Lecalvier: $7.7 mill for another 9 seasons
    D) Rick DiPietro: $4.5 mill for another 10 seasons

    • smiler2729 says:

      Lecavalier and Luongo are the worst deals (high cap hits for long terms).

      Gomez (with a zed!) is tolerable due to the short term while DiPietro’s is awful because he’s a bust due to the constant injuries.

      “If the Bruins played the Taliban, I’d root for the Taliban”

    • kid87 says:

      C no contest to be on the Habs

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Provided that there isn’t a dramatic change in the CBA upon expiry in a couple of years, and that they don’t allow another 1 time exemption buyout period, I stay with Gomez.

      Luongo has proven he is not a big game player, the fact he trash talks inbetween games is completely showing of his character. Somehow this guy is extremely cocky for what? Okay he had a high save % while playing 60-70 meaningless games a year in Florida. Want no part of him, nor do i want Team Canada to ever take him again. Our roster won the Gold, he was along for the ride.

      Dipietro is just plain and simple Cow Dung.

      Lecavalier is still a great player, but no way that term wouldn’t start to kill us in 2 years time and for long time after.

      Gomez, I liked when we first picked him up, i will admit. And I have been very frustrated at his performance since, particularly this complete past season. I hope beyond hope his professional backbone is embarrassed by last year and he gives great effort in off season. I am confident that if he does not improve, after this season his contract is tradeable.

  57. kempie says:

    Just felt that it’s worth mentioning now that this year, our team was one goal away from eliminating those Bruins. And that was without Markov, Gorges and Max. After that, well it could have easily been the Habs playing last night. The year before, had the Bruins been able to hold onto a 3 goal lead for 40 minutes, or somehow close out the Flyers in one of the 4 remaining games in their series, I think it’s safe to assume that the Habs play the Hawks in the final. Would the Habs have beaten the Hawks? I doubt it but it’s possible. Would the Habs have beaten the Nucks? Hell yes. I guess this makes me an optimist, but I’m confident that our team is much closer to the prize than a lot of people think.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:


      I Love Optimism, why watch otherwise!

    • kid87 says:

      Yeah, one goal away for the cup 😉

    • smiler2729 says:

      A lot of people feel the same way. The Habs are a lot better than most think (including all the McGuires, Cherrys and Kypreoses of the world). They’ve been beset by some pretty significant injuries and still battled like champs over the last two seasons.

      I look for a big improvement next season. I also see the Habs being the answer to which Canadian team will finally bring the Cup home and with their style of play, once again like we did in ’76, having to right the NHL ship from the prevalent goonery of Boston and Philly.

      “If the Bruins played the Taliban, I’d root for the Taliban”

      • issie74 says:

        Yes I like the too small too soft guys who fought so hard and sported the blackeyes to prove it.

        Strange all the posters on this page who talk of size and grit,never that.


    • HabinBurlington says:

      Great post kempie, thumbs up also.

  58. smiler2729 says:

    My theory is all the weirdos and space cadets that don’t fit in keep emigrating west from the east until they hit the Pacific ocean thus we have west coast cities (Vancouver, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles) prevalent with these nutjobs.

    “If the Bruins played the Taliban, I’d root for the Taliban”

  59. JohnBellyful says:

    I think the Canadiens should send a message draft day. The Habs contingent should walk over to the Bruins table, punch out their reps, and then congratulate them on winning the Cup, so we can get all the hard feelings out of the way and start the season with a clean slate.
    Maybe a few face washes before they go back to their table.

  60. SmartDog says:

    1. DESERVED? I wish I could congratulate the Bruins on a well played playoffs because they DID play well, but without crunching heads into things and getting away with all kinds of sh$t, there’d be no cup in beantown. Hockey took a big step backwards and the Campbell connection still drives me nuts. It’s a sad victory. As much as guys like Thomas might deserve it.
    2. DEAR DON, PLEASE RETIRE. Now that Don Cherry’s beloved “other” team has won a cup thanks to his buddy “Lalongo”, maybe now like Dr. Recchi he’ll finally retire. At least that would be a nice silver lining on this black and yellow cloud.
    3. WHO WEARS THE GOAT HORNS? Lots of places to hang the goat horns in Van but I put them on Vigneault. In game 4, after two goals on Lalongo I said “pull him!!!!”… he stayed in for another 4 or 5. In game 6 after ONE goal i screamed “pull him!!!!”. Everyone knew he was going down, and Vigneault left him in for a couple more quick goals. And if that’s not enough, whatever he DID do, he didn’t do enough to help his scorers beat Thomas. I mean, the Habs could do it. The Bolts could do it. Vancouver couldn’t? There’s some preparation lacking there. (BTW, can’t stand Luongo, always said he was over-rated and a headcase… and yet he’s only 2nd in line for me. The coach should know his guys.)
    4. LESSON FOR THE HABS. Hey Pierre G! Take a look! Muscle trumps skill in the long run. You CAN’T win with JUST SKILL. Hey Pierre! Are you f-n awake????? Man, those tofu burgers will put you to sleep won’t they?

    • MathMan says:

      “4. LESSON FOR THE HABS. Hey Pierre G! Take a look! Muscle trumps skill in the long run. You CAN’T win with JUST SKILL. Hey Pierre! Are you f-n awake????? Man, those tofu burgers will put you to sleep won’t they?”

      That’s a false narrative.

      The Bruins won because excellent goaltending trumps below-replacement-level goaltending regardless of the strength of the rest of their roster. The Bruins’ goonishness was not a factor, unless you think it somehow intimidated Boucher, Roloson, and Luongo.

      These playoffs should be absurdly simple to analyze really. Once Boston narrowly escaped Montreal, goaltending for and against was really the only meaningful factor. (Bet we don’t see that story get much traction though.)

      The Bruins are goons and the Bruins won the Cup, but it doesn’t follow that goons are needed to win the Cup.

      Skill wins Cups. Always has, always will.

      • HabFanSince72 says:


        After last year the hot meme in hockey was “goalies don’t matter”.

        This year we’re back to “goalies matter”.

        • MathMan says:

          They do, and excellent though Thomas has been, it’s been the poor goaltending performance of Boucher, Roloson, and Luongo that was the key.

          Tampa must be especially miffed. They crushed Boston and any kind of decent goaltending would have seen them win the series early, Thomas or no Thomas (and the Bolts scored 4+ goals on Thomas in four of the games!)

          • HardHabits says:

            You need to disassociate the term goons from the need for toughness, size and grit. The Habs do not need the former but certainly need more of the latter.

            The Bruins won the Cup because the had enough skill to match their ability to win the war of attrition.

            When push came to shove the Bruins won.

            Another thing. Thomas might have been good but that’s not giving enough credit to Boston’s sound defensive play.

            Please stop revising history MM.

          • MathMan says:

            “Toughness, size and grit” were not significant factors in the Bruins’ victory. It was all about goaltending and — again — more about the collapse of opposing goaltenders than the Bruins’ own. The fact that the Bruins faced three goaltenders performing at below replacement level and two of those series went to 7 games is actually quite telling.

            And after the Bruins were such a bad defensive club in the regular season (second-most shots against) and the way their defensive game got dismantled by the Bolts… I’m not inclined to credit their “sound defensive play”. The Bruins’ defensive system largely consisted of Thomas playing on his head.

          • HardHabits says:

            @MathMan: Which series were you watching? Goaltending was a factor but you make it seem like only TT deserves his name on the Cup.

            The Bruins’ defensive system consisted of Boston keeping other teams to the outside, using physical force to keep the opposition on their heels and nursing their wounds, clearing rebounds, not just TT.

            Wake up dude. You’re deluded.

          • MathMan says:

            Boston’s defensive system kept shots to the outside as much as the Habs’ did last year, which is to say not very much at all.

            Ah, I’m clearly exagerrating. Montreal last year was horrid. The Bruins are at least a good team, but defense isn’t anything special. Tampa especially exposed the Bruins’ defense system and generated no shortage of dangerous shots.

            The Bs were better defensively when they built a comfortable lead, of course, but all teams are when they build a big lead and sit on it.

            The point is, generally when the story is that shots were kept to the outside, it is a myth because people are conditioned to think low goals against = good defense. But that’s not necessarily the case (it could, notably, be superlative goaltending) and if you go ahead and actually count dangerous shots, you will see it. (But then that would be stats. 😉 )

        • HardHabits says:

          @HFS72: Thomas was very good and deserving of the Conne Smythe but that doesn’t negate the Bruins effective defensive system.

          Halak or Price, but not Luongo, could have won playing for that Boston team.

          Luongo’s major problem was Melanson.

          • Willy says:

            Price or Halak or even Reimer(ok maybe not Reimer) could have won it with Vancouver. Makes a huge difference for a team offensively when you have some faith in your goalie. Van sure as hell had no faith in Lu and that caused them to focus on trying to limit the chance. Even then all those chances turned into soft goals. Lu is a choke, it’s simple as that and Melanson is just making it worse.

      • HalifaxHabs says:

        when you look at it that way, it makes me very happy that Price is 23 and Thomas is 37… hopefully Thomas can’t do this for another entire year.

        and you’re right on, Price was the only person who came close to battling Thomas. Philly doesn’t even have any real goaltenders. Roloson stank it up, and no need to even mention Luongo.

        • 123456 says:

          price actually outplayed thomas – thomas let in a couple weak goals agains the habs. he let in no weak goals against the canucks

          • SmartDog says:

            True. Price DID outplay Thomas. And WAAAYYYYYY outplayed Lalongo. I couldn’t believe that Luongo and Fleury were both on the Canadian Olympic team and not Price. Still harder to believe we won with those guys. Price is the better goalie. Period. I hope he gets the recognition he deserves as a truly big game goaltender.

          • HalifaxHabs says:

            Price’s day will come, despite what some haters like to post on here.
            Anyone who knows goaltending can see the tools he has, and can look at his pedigree to see where he is going.
            He will hoist the cup one day, just as Thomas did last night.

      • SmartDog says:

        You make a good point. Without Thomas – and against GOOD goaltenders, the B’s don’t get far. But without wearing down better teams physically and with more calls happening to go their way than against, they also don’t get far. Toughness DOES win series.

        • Willy says:

          Connections won the Habs series for Boston(i strongly believe). Without that they obviously get no further. They are tough but over the line and without a little insider help they don’t look nearly as good. No point in dwelling on it and let’s hope with Shanny and Schneider the league actually figures out the disciplinary actions a bit better.

    • HalifaxHabs says:

      Smart Dog – only thing that worries me about Cherry retiring, is Milbury will probably get his place… and eventhough Cherry is a clown in clownsuites, IMO, he is WAY easier to stomach then Milbury.

      • SmartDog says:

        Good point. And Cherry is actually right on half the time. (And a total bafoon the other half.) Milbury is about as right as he was on Long Island.

        • HalifaxHabs says:

          LOL, it’s been said before and I’ll say it again… Mike Milbury is the biggest joke in the entire NHL machine. Absolutely zero credibility on any level, but CBC and NBC can’t stop giving him airtime because they see him as Don Cherry junior.

  61. kid87 says:

    Hey there HIO community, first time post. Just wanted to say thanks to everyone commenting during the playoffs, I was here reading when the Habs were playing and a little bit afterwards. Some of you are awesomely funny! and others had well written posts that were enjoyable to read so thanks all.

    Sucks that Boston won…I really love hockey, yet I really dislike bankers. Yet I love the Habs so I’m excited for next season. As for the NHL being rigged… yeah maybe. In masonic and occult symbols they use black/white floors and refs are dressed in black/white. Meh, could be a stretch yet I wouldn’t be surprised at the things that go on the higher up the money gets in our world.

    As for late last night and early this morning in Vancouver… all I can say is a few things; 1- that the actions of a few do not represent the intent of the whole and well that’s pretty much it. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was organized by certain groups either.

    I thought Boston winning would break my heart like it did the Habs yet it didn’t, and I was able to sleep at night.

    Alrighty, we’re on the cusp of the summer solstice? Enjoy your summer! Hockey will be back soon enough.

    • SmartDog says:

      You’re right that the city shouldn’t be judged on the actions of a few. As much as I wouldn’t do it myself though, I kind of understand it. I’d be pissed if we lost like that.

  62. Clay says:

    Nothing to do but suck it up. The hockey Gods have spoken, and exercised their will through the vessel of Tim Thomas.
    And the referees.
    Who are we to question the ways of the hockey gods?
    Or the referees?
    Stupid fans…don’t deserve their team to win anyway.
    Not that Bruins fans do either, but at least they didn’t destroy their city.

    Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.

    Winston Churchill

  63. mrhabby says:

    as much as i hate it..congrats to the dreadful bruins. tiny tim deserves the conn trophy he was amazing and held the bruins together. as for the rest of the bunch if you like goons and in your face hockey bruins is your team for the next several years. as i said will the powers to be on the habs side take some steps to try and counter the way boston plays cause it will not get any easier.
    i don’t believe the nhl rigged this for bruins to win.
    the refering is something to be desired. maybe shanny will make some changes.
    seeing bettman booed off the ice was priceless. the hatred for him is off the charts.

  64. volcano62 says:

    God it was great to hear those “Bettman Sucks” chants.

    I’m happy for Thomas and Julien but not the Booins.

  65. Julie H says:

    It’s just so…to be expected. At least Montrealers aren’t the only fans with such a bad reputation anymore.

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  66. Ed says:

    Boone says that HIO is not glad that Boston won the Stanley Cup, & I know he’s correct because I still read some of the comments on this site, & I know the animosity that most of the posters feel towards the Bruins.

    I am one of the few that are glad, but I’m glad mainly for Michael Ryder. He had a rough ride in Montreal, but has stuck with it, & had a great playoff run. Also, how can anyone not like Tim Thomas.

    • Julie H says:

      I met Ryder 3 times before he signed with Boston. He was my favorite when he first started playing with us and I was really sad to see him go. I am also glad that he got to hoist the cup. Good for him. Chara on the other hand…

      ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  67. aemarchand11 says:

    Extra Motivation is there for our habs now with the Bruin rivalry. We already know we can skate and play with the champs, now lets beat them at every oppertunity next season.

    Go Habs Go!

    “I have a different constitution. I have a different brain; I have a different heart; I got tiger blood, man.” – Charlie Sheen.

  68. HabFanSince72 says:

    I asked this last night, but with Schneider obviously ready for prime time, and all those d-men to sign, surely Vancouver would love to get rid of Luongo. But can they?

    Could they let him go for very little to a team like Florida? Would a bottomw dweller be interested? Could they afford him?

    According to capgeek Luongo’s cap hit is $5.3M for another ELEVEN seasons! OK he will retire before then but … His salary will be $6.7M for another … are you sitting down … SEVEN freaking seasons!

    What a contract!

  69. HardHabits says:

    That’s 4 Canadian teams that made it to the finals in recent years.

    USA 4 – Canada 0

    Meanwhile Canadians support their NHL teams win or lose and Americans jump on the bandwagon when there’s a winner in town.


    I can’t imagine the Habs current line-up being able to make it through 4 rounds of play-off hockey, at least not yet. Some very good pieces are in place but much work is needed to build a team that can not just make it to the Stanley Cup Finals but can also surmount the favouritism towards teams south of the border.

    • HalifaxHabs says:

      very well put HH, you’ve been on the ball lately.

      the USA 4 – Canada 0 part will probably earn you some replies about how most of those cup winnings teams have a ton of top end Canadian talent, but you already know that, and the 4-0 part is about the teams that won and their fans, not the nationality of the players.

  70. Exit716 says:

    Luongo’s contract makes Gomez’s look like a bargain. Maybe he’s just one of those guys that is better off playing in a hockey backwater where he can sort of be excellent and not worry about having to play critical games.

  71. V says:

    Just went to the Boston Globe. Great to see how excited Boston fans are in their team’s win.

    I can get pretty fed up with what I read from some Boston fans that post on various sites (especially after the Pacioretty hit), but you have to remember they likley an unrepresentative microcosm of all those that root for the Bruins.

    Bruins played very well and they deserve the Cup and I am happy for their fans. Now let’s kick their butts next year.

    By the way, so much for the North East Division sucking.

  72. CHsam says:

    Sucks for the city of Vancouver- a hoodlum series ends with degeneration in the streets.

    On a funnier note, if the Leafs lost game 7 like that, fans would probably shrug and say “Oh well, at least we won in 67”.

  73. G-Man says:

    Sad to say it, but the fix was in. Boston has their bought and paid for cup thanks to one set of rules for Boston and another for every other club.
    I didn’t believe that the NHL was rigged until one incident after another piled up during this season, revealing a pattern that stinks from Boston to the league head office in New York.
    If this is the league Bettman wants, he’s welcome to it.
    It’s time to stop buying tickets to this farce on ice and, unfortunately, it’s time to stop watching it.
    The best game in the world ruined by conspirators Jacobsen, Bettman, Campbell and Murphy.

    • tigress says:

      G-Man…wish I could discuss. But you’ve said it so succinctly, I have nothing more to add. Very conflicted between the “team that played to win” and the team that won being given every edge and every advantage to do so.

      Sadly, I don’t think boycotting the games is the answer. If we do that, we punish our Habs who have done nothing to deserve empty stadiums. If I don’t buy a ticket? There are 10 others in line clamoring for that which I’ve given up. I’d rather cheer my Habs, who play classy, take my kids and enjoy our city than punish them with an empty arena.

      • issie74 says:

        I cancelled my NHL package after the Pacioretti incident.

        I watch the games on RDS for 5.00 a month.

        I love hockey.

        My father arrived in Montreal in 1906 and fell in love with hockey.
        He talked about the Montreal teams – the MAA – Canadians – Moroons.My brothers went to see the Royals the National the Montreal Jr. Canadians all played in Montreal.

        It’s not easy to see this.It’s all about money.
        As Bettman is wont to say’The game was broken and we fixed it.LOL


    • Marcusman says:

      You’re wacked to think that way…..the Bruin’s won cause Tim Thomas played amazing all year.
      I’m a HUGE HABS fan…..Subban’s last goal was the most thrilling goal I’ve ever seen.

      There is no fix, just a bunch of morons making poor decisions…By the way Bateman how did that feel…..booed like you just kicked their puppy.

    • Marc10 says:

      You know, even though the Bruins were the best team in the final, thanks in part to the stellar play of lucky Timmy T and the great many injuries to Van’s D Corp,… we all know that win is tainted by the Chara Farce. It is. That guy simply should not have played and without him post Max Pac, the Bruins barely make the show and get crushed out of the first round. Simple as that.

      So yes, Gary, Colin, Bill and all the other clowns at NHL co got exactly what they wanted. It couldn’t have worked out better. A key American market that could never get it done since the days of Orr finally delivered with the help of their fairy godmother.

      And next year it starts again. You have to believe the Flyers will be favored. Boston’s owner had help in getting Gary resigned. So if your Richards, Carcillo or Pronger… just get ready. You will never get a better chance to lift the Cup.

      And after that, I’d imagine they’d want LA to win and then San Jose. Conveniently, all those teams are pretty stacked. If a key player can be spared the aggravation of sitting for an infraction they’ve obviously earned, you know Gary B and friends will step up again.

      It’s a shame. Timmy T was great. Heck even Dr Recchi, Floater Ryder and that little s*** Marchand were lights out. Senator Kelly, Perverly, Thugton, Sonny Boy, Woodchuck, and (of course) F***Zilla were all very good. But yeah, it’s tainted. It is. We all know it.

      Sour grapes, you betcha. And probably more in the years to come. But, hey… I’ve got nothing but admiration for my team. They did everything they could, injuries and all, in a ridiculous context.

      I didn’t believe Gary’s little scheme would pan out. Even a moderately healthy Nucks squad seemed unstoppable. But man oh man did those stars align for the NY Brass. Wow.

      Now Loo’s got to find another home, the Sisters will forever wear the cloak of shame and we have to live with the wankers walking around with a ring and with the a-holes at the CBC gloating off our tax bill.

      It’s going to be a long summer.

      Now, about the draft… 🙂

      “To be irreplaceable, you have to be different”.
      Andy Warhol

      Go PK Go!

    • issie74 says:

      There is a big payday ahead for the hot dog salesman,
      Business is not good in the USA.
      They have sold tickets for next year based on the results of this year.Not to long ago the building was empty.
      Now they have a first round pick from last year(Seguin)thanks to good friend Brian Burke and another this year.

      42 – Ethos is a word that should not be in any sentence about the NHL.

      Owners and players alike are to blame for this,they sold the League and now every fan has to swallow all the hogwash
      they spew.


  74. gerrybell says:

    nice to see Vancouver finally show some heart and burn their city. did the people in Boston even notice they won the cup?


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