Budaj will start in goal against Penguins

The Canadiens, coming off an embarrassing 7-3 loss to the Philadephia Flyers Monday night at the Bell Centre, held an up-tempo practice in Brossard Tuesday morning before flying to Pittsburgh, where they will face the Penguins Wednesday night (7 p.m., TSN, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Coach Michel Therrien announced that Peter Budaj will start in goal against the Penguins after replacing Carey Price in each of the last two games. During his last two starts – a 5-1 loss in Toronto Saturday and Monday’s loss to the Flyers – Price has allowed 9 goals on 33 shots.

Price has a 19-10-4 record with a 2.50 goals-against average and a .906 save percentage. He ranks 21st in the NHL in GAA and 29th in save percentage. Budaj has a 7-1-1 record with a 2.19 GAA and .915 save percentage.

Price will start Thursday night when the Tampa Bay Lightning visits the Bell Centre (7:30 p.m., TSN-HABS, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Brandon Prust, who sat out Monday’s game after appearing to reinjure his shoulder during Saturday’s loss in Toronto, was on the ice at practice Tuesday and is expected to be in the lineup against the Penguins. Prust would most likely take the spot of Ryan White, who faces an NHL disciplinary hearing after an illegal check to the head of the Flyers’ Kent Huskins. 

Michael Ryder took a therapy day Tuesday, while Raphael Diaz, who has been sidelined since Feb. 25 with a concussion, skated while wearing a no-contact jersey.

Therrien said there’s a possibility that defenceman Yannick Weber could return to the lineup in Pittsburgh.

“It’ll be a game-time decision,” the coach said after practice.

The lines at practice were: Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta; Blunden-Halpern-Moen; Gallagher-Desharnais-Pacioretty; Galchenyuk-Eller-Prust; Dumont-White

Defence pairings were: Subban-Gorges; Markov-Bouillon; Drewiske-Weber; Beaulieu-Kaberle; Diaz.

(Photo by Paul Chiasson/The Canadian Press)

Canadiens-Penguins Preview, nhl.com

Canadiens powerless against Flyers, by Pat Hickey

Canadiens outmatched in every way against Flyers, by Pat Hickey

Some fissures appearing as Canadiens limp to season’s finish line, by Dave Stubbs

White faces disciplinary hearing for hit on Huskins, nhl.com

Laviolette somber after Flyers’ win, philly.com

Habs vs. Flyers photo gallery

Crosby’s numbers still good enough for Hart Trophy, by Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Crosby skates with Penguins at practice, pittsburghpenguins.com

Iginla: The debut that almost wasn’t, pittsburghpenguins.com

Leafs inch closer to playoff spot, nhl.com

955 Comments

  1. Chuck says:

    Tonight is the ONLY time I’ll pull for the Bruins to win.

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  2. Fergu27 says:

    Can anyone shed any light on to what happened to Louis Leblanc? I didn’t think he was a bad player for the Habs last year at all

    • Sportfan says:

      He got hurt in Hamilton and kind of fell off the depth chart because of that with Gally and Chucky playing so well there isn’t room and he needs time to play properly without being hurt.

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    • bwoar says:

      Leblanc has played better of late, despite struggling after his injury. The whole year has been a bit of a Dog’s Breakfast in Hamilton (heh): new coach, musical goalies, rash of injuries, Gallagher leaving for MTL, crazy influx of junior kids (with more likely next year)… For Leblanc it’s been made a notch worse due to injury.

      I want to say this again about him: the kid rose up from College hockey all the way to the Habs really, really quickly. He’s never gone through a serious period of adversity in his career until now. I see him coming back into form, and just between you, me, HIO and a hamburger – I think he’ll play in the NHL next year. Maybe not from camp, but at some point we’ll see him again.

      “thoroughbred”

    • Sportfan says:

      Morning Timo how are you today on this fine day?

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    • habsfan0 says:

      After reading this,DD apparently tried to punch out his computer.
      But, it avoided him.

    • Loonie says:

      Timo, you should copy the text from that entire article and paste it here.

    • bwoar says:

      That article lost all credibility when it was posited that Colby Armstrong was a mistake. Actually, he’s filled his 4th line role well.

      Fine and dandy to point out that the MB/MT duo haven’t been perfect, but I think their mistakes have been pretty obvious “in hindsight”. Mistakes: signing DD too soon, giving Price a million or so more than deserved, signing Travis Moen

      The eternal DD/Eller thing comes down to a) the kid being younger and having to continue to prove himself (a run of 35 good games isn’t enough for current management, which is fine) and b) Desharnais absolutely needs better linemates and more protection to be effective (which actually sucks.)

      “thoroughbred”

      • Loonie says:

        Who should have to prove himself more? The first round pick who has displayed the qualities of a complete player or an undrafted, under sized player who’s been sheltered?

        Not trying to take anything away from Desharnais, but does one season qualify as proof?

        And if we’re approaching Desharnais’ third NHL season would it not be reasonable to expect that he improve his skating and strength in order to make himself a better defensive and complete player?

        We’ve seen that development from Eller. As he continues to develop, he should be given more responsibility if for no other reason than to test his development. But that doesn’t happen. Furthermore, Desharnais’ struggles both defensively and on the powerplay create the perfect situation for Therrien to increase even temporarily Eller’s role. Again, that hasn’t happened.

        Eller scores at an equal pace with lesser quality linemates at even strength, all the while being better defensively and better at controlling possession of the puck. On the powerplay Eller has proven to be far superior to Desharnais again under lesser quality circumstances.

        Every time I share an opinion on this I get upset with myself because this debate is over to me. Eller is better, and he’s been better on a lesser quality line playing lesser quality minutes.

        • derfab says:

          You are right. Don’t get upset. I see DD as a possible 2nd or 3rd if he begins to focus on defensive play, but he will be pushed off the top line by Eller and Galchenyuk. Plekanec is just much better all around. Someone will be moved within a year or two tops.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      Just remember that Allhabs is forever bashing the coaching and management. I’m not saying there isn’t some truth, but they seem to have a strong bias.

  3. Skeptical says:

    Habs are playing one of the best tonight. playoff test.

  4. HabinBurlington says:

    Morning everyone, doesn’t look like I’m missing much good hockey these days. Back to golf.

    CHeers!

  5. derfab says:

    No prisoners:
    1- Right now, Weber is a better hockey player than Tinordi, Beaulieu or Drewiske. And Diaz might not be ready for round 1. Stubborn Pride to cut Weber out of the equation earlier is the only palpable reason he hasn’t played yet. Get him in now to see what he can deliver.

    2-If Moen or any other player won’t buy in, I would even play Weber at forward, as he has shown himself to be an adequate sub there too.

    • Say Ash says:

      Weber is a Bruins killer in the playoffs.

    • Gally27 says:

      Weber is terrible. Give the kids a chance and get some playoff experience. Rotate Nate and Jared in and out depending on matchup etc. We aren’t going far this season anyways. Just hope Leafs don’t sweep us.

      • derfab says:

        Like Tinordi and Beaulieu, Weber too was a star in the minors. The advantage he has now is a quick, accurate shot and pro experience. Markov, Weber or someone else could be moved this summer to make room for both kids, but I don’t see the point of throwing them into the fire to learn when the team has a real chance to compete with 2 other star rookies in the lineup.

  6. Whole lot of Price Fans in the GM Club, LOVE IT!

    Bobrovsky should win it I suppose, no other goalie in the league carries his team like he does right now. But like Carey, he’s had soome horrible games this season.

    Plus the team’s fans need something like this award for PR and ticket sales.

    I think all the jumpers are gone now.

    To all the gang, you may start posting again. :lol:

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  7. habs001 says:

    Would be interesting to see where Prices lifetime gaa and save% stands vs individual teams including reg and playoff games…I dont know that stats but i would say his best stats would be vs Boston and worse Flyers…Leafs not sure

  8. Skeptical says:

    MT is starting to do things with the lineup that cost JM his job. it’s time to put the best with the best win or lose.

    Best: Pacioretty Pleks Ryder
    Better: Galchenyuk Eller Gallagher
    Good: Bourque DD Gionta
    Average: ??????? Halpern Prust

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      When has he played a D-man on the 4th line?

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Propwash says:

        I’d like to see Subban play forward for one game for funzies.

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      • commandant says:

        MT’s lineup over 40 games has produced results that have him in the conversation for coach of the year.

        The last two games we lost.

        Time to blow up everything. The line creating generators at H I/O know more than this Jack Adams Contender coach.

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        • Cal says:

          Awww, didja have to bring out the big guns, Common and Sense?

        • LizardKing12 says:

          All though I tend to agree with what you’ve said I’m not so sure all of his lines have worked out. I don’t understand how MT can justify playing DD more than any of our other centers when he isn’t producing like a #1 center. It’s supposed to be a meritocracy, yet a guy like Eller who is playing his butt off and has more or less equal point totals to DD with a quarter of the PP time and 100 less minutes played has yet to be rewarded for his solid play.

    • derfab says:

      I have never understood why Plekanec, post Kovalev, has not been given the best wingers and treated like the number 1 center he is. There are some talented kids behind him, but neither is ready and Desharnais just isn’t good enough to get top billing.

  9. habs001 says:

    Well if The Habs would have won the 3 games they lost the the Leafs they would have pretty well clinched first place and have a chance at Pitts for first overall…The Leafs would be fighting for a playoff spot…Maybe the Habs should play the Leafs in the first round so they can say we put you in the playoffs and now we put you out…lol..

  10. habs12 says:

    Who has the brighter future: Jarred Tinordi or Jared Cowen?

  11. Small_Town_Boy says:

    Habs should have picked up O’Bryne … LOL

  12. Small_Town_Boy says:

    In that pic above

    Budaj: “See Carey you shate the bed you get pulled, meet Montreal’s #1 for the playoffs”

    Price: “I am going to smack you silly in 2 seconds”

    • Luke says:

      “No, seriously Carey, I could not find Mr. Gorges either.”

    • The Dude says:

      Listen Carey,in off-season you come to Slovakia with me a Halak and learn to stop pucks …but for now that bench goes good with your pads so do like in nets and don’t move :mrgreen:

    • Propwash says:

      Budaj : “Stop me if you heard this… a hockey player shoots a puck and….oh…too soon??”

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    • The Dude says:

      The entitlement in Nets for the Habs is now over and the job now is to find the hot Goalie… Therrien will now play Budaj untill he loses and If you are a TRUE HABS FAN you will wish Budaj victory over the Pens . We need a hot Goalie going into the Play-Offs not a bunch of fans with a Man Crush ! Carey will get another chance but then again if Budaj wins the last 7 games ‘al la Dryden’ HE WILL BE the tender for the ‘BIG SHOW’! gO HABS gO

  13. ed says:

    24 Cups,

    figured I would add a little insight into your post from below where you wrote:

    “Calgary then went off the charts a bit by taking Jankowski over players such as Maatta, Matheson and Subban. Were the Flames playing a hunch or taking a wild gamble?“

    Here`s the article you should read. Everything you need to know about the `why“ behind this pick is there.

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/06/23/nhl-draft-2012-flames-believe-mark-jankowski-is-steal-of-first-round/

    • commandant says:

      His play at Providence this year, doesn’t look like a guy that should have been taken that high. Hasn’t been bad, but not lived up to the hype Calgary gave him.

      Keep in mind that Calgary also traded down, and could have had a guy like Zemgus Girgensons, Teuvo Teravainen, or Cody Ceci at 14th if they had just stayed put.

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      • ed says:

        I agree. I know the program at Stanstead quite well.

        Rule #1 of drafting in the NHL:

        1st round pick should not be a “project” pick; you need a sure NHL player in the 1st round.

        I know there were many, many sure NHL picks available, and my conclusion is that the Flames took a “flyer” a “risk” in the 1st round, and that’s a mistake.

        • commandant says:

          By the time you are into the 20s though, less than half of all players picked become productive NHLers with more than 100 career games. It really does become a crap shoot before the end of the first round.

          Which is why I think the Flames shouldn’t have traded down, and should have used their top 15 pick which has a much greater chance of success.

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    • HabFanSince72 says:

      On a related issue, how is Tyler Biggs panning out?

  14. Steeltown Hab says:

    If you’re not going to shake up the lines and split up 51/67, at least swap Bourque onto Ellers line and Ryder back with Plekanec

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    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Agreed…why MT took the leading scorer from the best center is beyond me.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        Plek Gio Bourque are all north south players. Eller Galchneyuk Ryder play a more skilled game, why not balance out both lines.

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        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  15. jeffhabfan says:

    GO HABS GO. We need to get back on track and finish as high as possible.

  16. Ian Cobb says:

    We will take it to the Penguins tonight. Budaj wins in a shootout is the worse case scenario!

  17. Loonie says:

    There’s been some chatter about which of Pateryn, Tinordi or Beaulieu has looked the most pro-ready.

    For my money it’s been Tinordi, almost by default. Pateryn didn’t move on the ice and did a lot of watching while he was on it. He didn’t look like he had any anticipation or ability to read the speed of the play at the NHL level. Beaulieu showed promise early but has made some awful gaffes defending the rush and with his first pass in his own zone.

    Tinordi on the other hand routinely used one touch passing and rarely looked overwhelmed in the defensive zone. Made some patient plays at the offensive zone blueline and while he wasn’t physically intimidating he was very responsible.

    I don’t think it was even close. Tinordi by a mile.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Agreed. Beaulieu is the most talented but defensively looks a little weak. I think sometimes when a D-man’s strength is offense, he naturally takes risks he maybe should not be taking…hence his play seems shaky. Tinordi is what they need now in this “mini-tailspin”. Wouldn’t mind seeing him with Markov…nothing else is working since Emelin went down.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • ths says:

      Tinordi is over six feet tall and he’s fought over six times so he wins by default

      Ooh Aah Habs on the war path

    • Phil C says:

      The contribution to the PP is a huge value added for Beaulieu. That may be the difference in their decision.

    • Cal says:

      Tinordi should have been the call up, imo, too.

    • wjc says:

      Nerves play a big part, Beaulieu is pretty smooth and can skate, I think it was a case of nerves. Tinordi has special skills and size, but the most skilled is Beaulieu, once he settles down and plays his game.

      wjc

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      When they brought Beaulieu back up, they did say that he hadn’t had as long a look as the others. When Beaulieu looks good, however, he looks really good. Of course, the converse is true. :)

  18. Clay says:

    So I’m all the way on the other side of the world…I have to ask – did the sun rise over Montreal this morning? I was worried after reading HIO for the past few days that it wouldn’t.

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  19. Ian Cobb says:

    Budaj! has certainly earned this start. Cary needs a break to regain his form and his competitive spirit!
    He will be back to being the winner that he is in time for the play offs.

  20. JohnBellyful says:

    Marc: What’s happened? I was feeling good about the guys for most of the season – well, most of the guys for most of the season – and then this!
    Michel: I know, I know. But deep down we knew it couldn’t last. Admit it. Anyone will tell you, what they were doing was out of character.
    Marc: Do you think so? I wonder: Was all that other stuff just an aberration – a long one, at that – and are we seeing the real guys now?
    Michel (sounding doubtful): It could be just a slump and everyone will get back on track.
    Marc: Man, I hope you’re right. I don’t know if I can take it for the next two weeks heading into the playoffs if things continue the way they’ve been the last few days.
    Michel: I know how you feel. I never thought it would come to this after that great first half.
    Marc: Same here. To think they would revert to their old ways. I had higher hopes.
    Michel: Me, too. Well, there’s only thing to do.
    Marc: Agreed. Quit reading HIO.
    Michel: Right. Those guys are poison. Well, no need to sweat the small stuff. Let’s talk about the team. Who do you like for lines tonight?

  21. Loonie says:

    Coming off of two terrible losses, a road game against the Penguins is exactly the kind of matchup I want to see.

    A road game against the Sabres doesn’t say anything about the team. Against the Pens, how our team plays and the result mean something.

  22. thebonscott says:

    I wonder who would hurt the habs more kaberle and his 4.25 million hit or gionta and his 5 million hit? Really i don’t see Gionta as a game changer unless he is wide open and pleks is passing him the puck. Does anyone think that a team would take gionta in the offseason?? If not they should buy out gionta and bury kaberle in the minors, that way they save 5.9 million off the cap instead of 4.25 and they could use it to pick up a large forward or give a kid a chance.

    Buck the Fruins.

    • Habfan17 says:

      If Gionta would waive is no trade clause and the devils would take him, then I would do it and still use the last amnesty buyout on Kaberle. I do think other teams may be interested in Gionta, but then the Habs would probably have to take salary back.

      Clarkson would be a nice addition and would probably mean no resigning Ryder. Then the Habs would have Gallagher, Clarkson, and Possibly Kristo or Leblanc as the 3rd line right wing.

      As unpopular as it may be, although logical, I would aslo trade Plekanec since he has peaked and his value will be high to some teams. With Galchenyuk, Eller, and DD at centre, Pleks is the odd man out in my opinion. Moen could also go at this point. Since Bergevin has re-upped Boullion for one more season, I would also see what Gorges would bring. Time to hand the reigns to Subban, Patches, Gallagher, Price and the other young core players.

      Bring in a tough, crease clearing defenceman like Erskine and let Tinordi develop and fill out for one more season in Hamilton. Put Pateryn on the 3rd pairing.

      Habfan17

      • thebonscott says:

        Agree with everything u said. We are totally on same page.

        I like Ryder a lot, but he is 33, and his next contract is going to be a gross overpayment, Jay Feaster will probably offer him 6 million per year LOL.

        I am on the fence with plekanec, wish we hadn’t signed Desharnais long term, too one dimensional.

        Buck the Fruins.

        • Habfan17 says:

          Thanks, I am also annoyed they signed DD, unless it was to make him more attractive in an off season trade. He is making too much money to b a 3rd line centre, which is where I see him once Galchenyuk grows into the 2st line role. Eller to me should be the 2nd line centre.

          Habfan17

      • Strummer says:

        These moves would be nice but i don’t see anyone wanting a 35 year old Gionta @ $5 million in a $64 million cap year.

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      • Cal says:

        You don’t trade the best center on the team. You hold on to your depth and make it work. Habs definitely need tougher D that can play. Erskine won’t be going anywhere. The Caps see what he does and will keep him.

        • Habfan17 says:

          Sorry, I don’t think pleks is the best anymore and that is how teams end up in trouble, by holding on until they are a shell of the player they once were, and they have no or little trade value. We are not talking superstar player here! Most agree the time for Calgary to trade Iginla was 2 years ago. Pleks would bring a valuale asset that can help long term. The Habs still have plenty of depth at centre.

          Habfan17

          • Cal says:

            Yeah, Pleks is a shell of what he was. Do you actually watch him play?
            Youth and rookies playing center = unsuccessful seasons.
            You need balance to win. A balance between youth and vets. Too much youth = Edmonton Oilers right now. Do you really want the Habs to not make the playoffs for years and years while you await youth’s “development”?

          • thebonscott says:

            I think the point habsfan is trying to make is the time for pleks as a number one centre is limited to the next few years at most and that soon the decision to keep him until he retires or trade him before we can get little in return is approaching.

            Buck the Fruins.

          • Habfan17 says:

            @thebonscott Thank you, that is what I was getting at. Pleks to me is not what Alfredson is and was to the Senators and I think his real value now to the habs is in a trade. They Have enough experience at this time to get by and could sign a depth player as a free agent.

            Habfan17

      • gerrybell says:

        on the fence about pleks? he is our best forward! he does everything and competes against the number 1 line of most teams nightly. morons.

        g
        b

      • wjc says:

        Trade em all. Waive them, buy them out, this two game losing streak perhaps going to 3 is not acceptable. Scrap it and start again….right now!!!!

        wjc

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Don’t think they trade the Captain unless the team tanks…

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  23. ed says:

    take this for whatever it’s worth.

    Sean Coutourier and Subban were in a scrum last game, after the whistle, pushing and shoving.

    Coutourier, who I know well from his days in Junior, gets right in Subban’s face and calls him a “pussy”, at least twice.

    Subban ignores him.

    Coutourier has 4 minor penalties this year, and he had a grand total of 7 minor penalties last year. He does NOT fight!!

    I`m not a big fighting proponent, but if someone called me a `pussy“ I would lose it I think.
    I think the Habs lose some of that mental toughness against the tougher teams. I think that`s what Prust brings to the lineup. I think that`s what Moen and White are supposed to bring. (well forget about White, I guess).

    When the Leafs played the Capitals last night, I don`t think there was much of that intimidation going on. The Capitals held their ground and the Leafs knew that there was a `push back“ there.

    When the Habs don`t have Prust in their lineup, it`s like they are missing their Gang Leader, the guy who makes the other team take notice and NOT feel like they can intimidate us.

    I think that plays a role in how aggressive some Habs play the game. Not Gallagher and Galchenyuk. But many of them.

    • Loonie says:

      Everyone’s different Ed.

      Being the self absorbed guy that I am I’ll share how I’m different. I always laughed at trash talk but if somebody touched my goalie they were taking a crosscheck to the hips, lower back or chest.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I think caution should be used by the coaches who seem, and this is only my impression, bent on stifling implusive emotional reaction. I think players are operating under the rule “can’t take bad penalties”. Sometimes reacting immediately and losing your decorum may hurt the team for one penalty but guard against opponents lack of decorum for the long run.

    • Phil C says:

      The Habs needed a guy like Prust, that’s why MB went and got him. You are dead on about his value to the team, he can change the momentum of a game. AND he can take a regular shift.

      Using your example with Subban, do you really think it affected his play? Intimidated him? Subban is one of the biggest chirpers in the league, I suspect it was Subban who was getting to Couturier. The Flyers forwards are 2 pounds lighter than the Habs forwards on average, so they are not as intimidating as some would like to think.

      As well, looking at the goals scored and the penalties taken by the Habs that resulted in goals, there was no evidence in that game that a lack of size or toughness played a factor in the outcome. We should be much more concerned about how effective the Flyers’ forecheck was against the Markov pairing, or whether or not Beaulieu can improve his defensive play in time for the playoffs. These things will have a far greater impact on the outcome of a game. But all anyone wants to talk about is toughness. It is such a red herring.

    • adamkennelly says:

      Pretty sure PK has been coached for ages to NOT FIGHT…he has been and will always be a target – he doesn’t need to waste his time fighting. that being said, because of the way he plays – he should learn how to – so if the right trade off comes along, he can better handle himself..but reacting to trash talk- ignore, ignore, ignore…

  24. JohnBellyful says:

    Travel announcement: The Habs bandwagon will be arriving late in Pittsburgh today. It made an unscheduled stop in Panic City.

  25. 24 Cups says:

    I found it interesting to read the debate over teams picking the best available player over a player with size. At first glance it would appear totally logical to always select the best player in the draft. But that only holds true under certain circumstance. Last year’s draft serves as a good example.

    The first three picks were no-brainers. Selections 4-10 were all Dmen and I’m sure that each team’s list would be pretty close to any of the others. Obviously certain teams have a hunch about an individual player as witnessed by Pittsburgh’s excitement at selecting Pouliot 8th. Some fans might wonder why Forsberg and Grigerenko fell so far down the list but that might have been due to the fact that teams put more of an emphasis on defensemen. This is where the notion of the BPA starts to go out the window.

    A real prime example was when Washington selected Tom Wilson. Here size won out over a top talent such as Teravainen. Calgary then went off the charts a bit by taking Jankowski over players such as Maatta, Matheson and Subban. Were the Flames playing a hunch or taking a wild gamble?

    Then there was the strange case of Collberg. New Jersey went for size when they chose Matteau over Collberg. Fair enough. But then Edmonton totally went off the rails by selecting Moroz directly before Collberg. No one in their right mind could say that Edmonton went for the BPA. They opted for a local who had size but not much polish.

    I think it’s at that point where it becomes impossible to realistically say that one player is better than another. There just is no way that teams can clearly identify one player as being better than the next half dozen. Teams draft on scouting reports, hunches and need. With that in mind, I would suggest that Montreal use their 1st round as well as Calgary’s 2nd rounder to pick the BPA. Tie doesn’t go to the runner but rather the player with some size and nastiness. After that, it might be time to use the next four picks on acquiring some larger players as well as a goalie prospect.

    • mrhabby says:

      Unless MB decides to use some of the pics and a playes or 2 and ship them for a decent power forward or big name dman. Pics take time. We have needs right now…will see.

    • Cal says:

      Morning, Steve. Good post.
      Scouting is all educated guessing. One thing, though. You can’t teach size. Those high flying Oilers looked really small last night against the Wild and were crushed accordingly because of the great balance of toughness and skill.

      Habs do need more size on D that plays physical. This rebuild season has been fun because of all the winning, but the disappointment is in not trying to pry away a Byfuglien type. (Not necessarily the D I’d choose, just giving an example.)

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    • Loonie says:

      That’s a great point Steve. The NFL ran their Top 10 program the other day and it gave me a laugh.

      Scott Pioli shared his thoughts on Tom Brady being named the steal of his draft class and he had a good chuckle due to the Patriots being billed as geniuses for the pick.

      He said “if we were so smart we wouldn’t have waited until the seventh round to draft Tom”. Truer words were never spoken.

      Trevor Timmins gets rave reviews here and for good reason. But when it comes to a guy like Gallagher, if Timmins knew he’d be this good he would’ve been a second round pick instead of a fifth.

      Thought that might be relevant.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        RE: Gallagher…don’t they sometimes not pick a guy earlier because they know he will be there the next or next couple of rounds? Aren’t they also playing off what the other GM’s are doing?

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • Loonie says:

          Sure some times. But if you truly believe Gallagher’s going to be a 20-30 goal scorer are you waiting until the fifth round and taking the chance that 29 other teams won’t take him earlier?

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            True…

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Singaporehabsfan says:

        Drafting is like buying stocks, buy low and sell high. We can’t blame him for getting Gallagher for a fifth rather than a second, we laud him! It doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to pick him. He drafted him for his dogged heart, in spite of his size. No one can predict the future development. Remember, these are 17 year olds.

        Pathetic leafs flatulent bruins

        • Loonie says:

          I’m not saying he didn’t want him. I’m saying that if he believed very strongly that he would become a thirty goal scorer he would have taken him earlier.

  26. Danno says:

    Game day, with the boys in Pittsburgh to tackle the Penguins, a team that has several good players, although the names escape me just now.

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  27. Maritime Ron says:

    Watching the Caps last night, they are far from a goon team but do they ever stick up for each other (hint hint)

    Their star center Nicky Backstrom was hit from behind into the boards by McClement. Immediately Captain Ovie jumped McClement. Next time McClement was on the ice, Jason Chimera who has all of 2 fights this year, dropped his gloves and set McClement straight.

    That was at close to the end of the 1st period with the Caps leading 1-0. Right after, bozo Carlyle puts Orr and MacLaren on the ice and the Caps laughed at them. Those 2 goons were non factors for the rest of the game playing about 3 minutes in the combined 2nd-3rd periods.

    That tape should be mandatory watching, but Prust, Bouillon, Gorges can go for coffee as they are the only ones that get it.

    • jols101 says:

      Ya, I watched the game and your description is bang on, except for one point. When Carlyle threw on Orr and MacLaren, the Caps made sure they had #4 big John Erskine on the ice. Remember when Orr and MacLaren were in the corner trying to start fights, but everything cooled down when Erskine grabbed Orr by the scruff of the neck. Erskine is the nuclear deterrent in this situation, something the Habs don’t have. So when the Leafs played the Habs, Plek’s season was almost ended by an Orr knee and Bourque gets concussed by an Orr sucker punch but when the Leafs play the Caps nothing much happens. The difference between having a respected heavy weight and having no one. Simple.

      • Maritime Ron says:

        I hear what you say loud and clear, but those players are so hard to find. That is the exact type of player we need. Erskine is a big boy, 6’4″-220 but hardly a goon. He gets into a few fights a year (beat Parros-got clocked by Thornton) and plays top 4 minutes including 2nd unit PK. Carlyle would have loved getting Erskine off the ice for at least 5 minutes vs 1 of his goons. Maclaren was held in the corner by a linesman.
        When the Caps scored a few quick 2nd period goals, the 2 goons become useless entities.

        One other thing you’ll notice is that the majority of their forwards are big men with a Ribeiro exception that is still 6′-180
        http://capitals.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

    • The Cat says:

      I hear you….Erskine and Clowe both were very obtainable at a certain point. Would have really cemented the habs as contenders IMO

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I really really like this post. I like the feeling I get about a team acting as you described.

  28. Maritime Ron says:

    Sorry if I don’t understand all the fear about playing the Leafs in the 1st round. Hell, if I had a choice of who to play, that’s the team I want.

    Did anybody watch them last night? They were totally exposed for what they are. Some talent and speed up front with a bunch of slow pylons on the back end that panic and love giving away the puck.
    They have 3 D men in the top 20 in the NHL for giveaways.

    Forget about the 2 games against them that got out of hand early. When you get behind early, the game plan goes out the window, D men pinch causing odd man rushes, frustration and penalties follow.
    Instead, think about that 5-2 win against them when we skated circles around them and had puck possession forever.
    The Leafs have also been lucky this year catching every break in the book and also have an unsustainable shooting percentage.

  29. DorvalTony says:

    Cristobal Price! LOL LOL LOL!

    “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
    William F. Buckley, Jr.

  30. savethepuck says:

    Although I have thought that if Whitey gets a long suspension, we may possibly never see him again in a Habs uni, I don’t agree with the poll question. My thoughts on Whitey Are that when a Bruin ( forget if it was Boychuck or McQuaid ) , tried a knee on knee on Subban, Whitey was the first there to make them pay the price. When someone ran Carey, Whitey went nuts. Those are the things that his teammates love about him and the coaching staff appreciates about him. What Whitey has to realize, is that is what is going to be his role if he wants an NHL career. When Whitey defended himself after what he thought was a low hit by Ott ( which I didn’t think was ), it was considered selfish. He has done other selfish things since. If he wants to have an NHL career, he has to know his role.

    “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
    Carey Price

    • donmarco says:

      Sadly, the Ryan Whites of the NHL are a dime a dozen. He is most clearly not a core player on the team and is destined to be a Brad Staubitz type wherever he ends up. Loyalty can’t be a factor when it come to a 12th or 13th forward, and if he’s already on the NHL watch list let him be someone else’s problem going forward. Sorry to be brutal.

  31. The Dude says:

    What a 3rd period the Blues and Canucks are having…this is hockey man!

  32. habsfan0 says:

    Habs fans have been a bit morose lately. Time for a pick me upper.

    A woman went to a pet shop and immediately spotted a large, beautiful parrot.
    There was a sign on the cage that said $50.00.
    “Why so little?” she asked the pet store owner.
    The owner looked at her and said, “Look, I should tell you first that this bird used to live in a house of prostitution and sometimes it says some pretty vulgar stuff.”
    The woman thought about this, but decided she had to have the bird anyway.
    She took it home and hung the bird’s cage up in her living room and waited for it to say something.
    The bird looked around the room, then at her, and said, “New house, new madam.”
    The woman was a bit shocked at the implication, but then thought, “That’s really not so bad.”
    When her two daughters returned from school the bird saw and said, “New house, new madam, new girls.”
    The girls and the woman were a bit offended but then began to laugh about the situation considering how and where the parrot had been raised.
    Moments later, the woman’s husband ‘Keith’ came home from work.
    The bird looked at him and said,
    “Hi, Keith!”

  33. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Stu Cowan’s suggestion to sit Moen for Blunden before the playoffs so He can be given a real chance to show what He can do is something Therrien should do …in fact, the last several games is an opportunity for several experiments with personnel and alignments

    …I think re Blunden, who is not more physical than Moen, at least would give Moen a rest before the playoffs …it’s in the playoffs that Moen really comes to play

    …My interpretation of Markov’s responses to quizzing from reporters after the Philly game, though He says He would like to play every game, in His expressions I feel He thinks He would appreciate a few games to be rested before the playoffs

    …if no waiver or contract complications, I would like Tinordi and Pateryn join Beaulieu in Montreal for the last few games

    …Gorges and Boullion can also appreciate rest to heal before the playoffs begin

    …besides, Moen, among the forwards, I would rest as well Pacioretty for a re-set

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      If Moen is hurt, he should sit because he is useless if he is not physical.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • savethepuck says:

      I agree with what you are saying but I also think the Habs are in a position to win their division which guarantees home ice advantage for the first 2 rounds of the playoffs. That is very important IMO.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …Markov, Gorges, Moen and Pacioretty are keys for success in the playoffs

        …I rather rest pre-playoffs and take chance of lower in standings

        …I think home advantage is over-rated in this carpetbagging era

        • savethepuck says:

          To be honest, I may be a little on the fence on the this. I agree with your POV also. Maybe I would like the home ice advantage for bragging rights.

          “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
          Carey Price

    • habstrinifan says:

      100% GOOD! Use the remainder of the regular season to achieve a few solutions:
      A)Break up DD-Pac. They are not going to recapture last years mojo. It was a special year for all thre players involved. Put either Moen or Blunden (who are both better hockey players than White) to ‘protect’ DD and keep build a chemistry on a line .

      B)Get Weber in. I have been calling for that past few days and I see he may in fact be in. Good.
      c) As soon as rules allow call up Tinordi… get him ready for providing size (not fisticuffs just useful size) to the defense.

      D)And you are right.. they could kill two birds with one stone.. rest Markov a bit and get the rookie defensemen integrated into the system for the playoffs.

  34. The Jackal says:

    I feel bad for the customer service folks at NHL.
    They have to deal with my rants about their Gamecentre Live service.
    I’ve written them many angry emails about their coverage and blackouts, and now about the ads that, despite paying, come on before tuning into a game!
    I feel bad reading their emails – they have no power whatsoever to address my concerns, only to tell me that that’s how things are.
    That’s the thing with big businesses, you never get to talk to someone who makes decisions, just some customer service rep that does not really do much with your feedback.

    I really wish they would stop with the blackout thing. It makes no sense. It is their product, you’ve paid for it, so they may as well show every game. If you watch a stream on CBC it’s still on CBC.. just going through my computer or Xbox to watch the game because I don’t want to pay for cable! Just seems lame to me that you can’t watch national games or TSN games or anything. Even regional CBC broadcasts are blacked out.

    Sorry about the rant but I’m guessing some here feel the same way about that product.

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    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …Telus here in Vancouver gave Me a month of free Game Centre …I thought it would bring Me all Our Habs’ games, and enthusiastically tried it out …of course finding that most Our games are blacked-out for hard to comprehend reasons

      …I’m not interested in other teams, and declined to subscribe

      …they must lose many potential subscribers like Me for that reason

      • The Jackal says:

        They probably do!
        I subscribed because I don’t have cable and most games (I thought) would be out of market since I live in TO. But since we are on CBC every Saturday night, despite not being shown in TO, I can’t watch it on Gamecentre… total BS. Not to mention TSN games, so tomorrow I won’t be able to watch.
        I do watch other games for fun but I only really like to watch the Habs.
        The one good thing is that it has a long form version of highlights, I watch those after wins. When we came back to beat the B’s earlier this year I must have watched it like 5 times.

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    • ClutchNGrab says:

      I understand your frustration too well, I have given up trying to find an alternative to subscribe to cable just to watch my beloved Canadiens.

      However, NBC, RDS, TSN, CBC and all the local tv stations give a lot of money to get the games on their network, that revenue is critical to keep the NHL afloat. Without the blackout the viewership would decrease along with the ad revenue hence less money for them and the NHL. Until they change their business model to fit with the 21st century, there is little hope for change.

      I met a guy that used to work in a sport bar in Phoenix, he told me the bars could not show the Cardinals game if the stadium wasn’t sold out. That’s crazy, the more exposure the game has the better it is.

    • HFL says:

      Guys easy fix. Go to Unblockus. Its a website that chages your VPN so u can watch all the games gamecenter has to offer. Ive been using it this year and its great. Ive been able to watch every habs game and any other game for that matter and I live in montreal. costs me 5 bucks a month to use their service. totally worth it

  35. Skeptical says:

    If you’re not a good Hockey player and I think whites stats shows it he should at least be a fighter and he can’t do that either. Just saying.

    He has cost the Habs a few games with his stupid penalties at the wrong time. He don’t only put up no points. He cost us points so what do you expect from management and the coaches.

    • jols101 says:

      Why pick on White? Habs have many, many players who are not good hockey players and can’t fight. At least White tries to spark the Team once and a while which is a lot more then many of the stiffs that get payed way more do.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      I have no issue with what he did yesterday. The Flyers have been bullying the Habs and at least he tried to send a message. I rather have him at his salary than Moen who makes 2.5x more for 4 years and is unnoticeable.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Skeptical says:

      Jols101 – You have to be thinking our 4th liner’s. Our top-9 are very good Hockey Players and our stats show it that’s why we are in 2nd place in the Eastern Conference.

      If I’m not mistaken. We only have 1-player in our top-9 with less than 20-points. That’s a 40+ season for these 9-players in a full season. I would say that’s not too shabby ….

      • jols101 says:

        Ya, our top 9 is solid. I was thinking Moen, Weber, Kaberle, Armstrong, and many like Halpren but I would get rid of him before White as well.

        Edit: Oh ya Drewiski, brutal.

  36. Sportfan says:

    In regards to the fact we have 6 picks in the first three rounds, I think MB will go for the best available for the team so if that means 6 5’10 guys then so be it maybe they’ll all be Gally’s. However I agree that they need to start going after talent that is tall big and tough, but has skill as well. I trust MB when it comes to drafting so I’m not worried. Either way first we need to end the season first and go through the playoffs before we start worrying about drafting :P

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    • ProHabs says:

      We can never have enough 5ft10, 175 pound perimeter players in the pipeline. We need to make sure we have these guys to eventually replace Gionta, Deharnais, Halpern, Markov, Gorges, Ryder, Diaz, Kaberle and Weber. If we don’t, the Habs will lose their identity as being a small, soft team to play against. Do we really want to take the chance of losing this identity.

      Even though Hamilton is full of these types of guys, we need more.

      • Phil C says:

        Well, we wouldn’t want to draft another Crosby, or Giroux, or Letang, or Patrick Kane. Or playoff performers like Parise or Briere. No, much better to find the next Penner or the next Antropov. Or the next Gaustad, he has 5 points this year. Not great, but he’s HUGE, so its okay.

        • ProHabs says:

          Exactly, I would go as far as saying the smaller the player the better. In my eyes, players that are 5ft6 should be considered too big by Habs management.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      I believe you draft the best player available so you can build a good asset base. You can then use that asset base to get what you want. If you have many of the same type of players it should not be a problem as long as they are GOOD. For example, the Senators stockpiled goalies. This enabled them to use one of their goalies to get a smallish fast scorer which they did not have. If you need size, there is no point to draft such a player if he is not good. You’re better off getting a good player, regardless of size/position and trading for your need afterwards.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • savethepuck says:

        Someone who understands the draft. I always used to laugh when Maguire would say “Habs are up next, they need _______”. I always thought the way you do.

        “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
        Carey Price

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          Yeah McGuire and his “organizational need” BS. This is not the NFL draft where the guy plays right away. If you need something right away, you sign it or trade for it…not wait 3-4 years for it.

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  37. Timo says:

    I can’t believe that there is talk about White possibly having played his last game for CH. If it’s the case, Therrien is even worse than I thought.

  38. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …he’s BACK !!!

    Psy: ‘Gentleman’ …with a few new dance steps :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ASO_zypdnsQ

  39. JohnBellyful says:

    A distraction, if you will. Earlier tonight, saw ‘42′, an excellent movie with great performances, and then upon returning home, fitfully watched a couple of innings of the White Sox – Jays game.
    Some time afterward, this question bubbled up: Baseball being a sport immersed in statistics, what the record is, in terms of pitches or minutes, that the same ball has been used, before being hit out of the park, fouled into the stands, or tossed out by the ump after hitting the earth and getting scuffed?
    There’s got to be a record of this somewhere. A caffeinated mind desires to know.
    (I think the NHL should stop play as soon as a puck hits a post in order to substitute another one. You can imagine how much a puck’s physical characteristics are altered after clanging off the iron, and it doesn’t look good on a sport to continue playing with a disk no longer in optimal condition.)

  40. AH says:

    Can someone please explain all the Blunden love?? Many on here keep pining for him as our answer to grit?? But yet whenever he plays, I don’t see any dominating performances, no fighting, few memorable hits if any and no offense. Is he the best forward call up we have in Hamilton?, yikes! I’ll keep White thanks.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Blunden has never really had a good run at establishing/proving himself in the organization. Last year, if I recall, Blunden had a number of games and did very well. He does not hit HARD but he eliminates the man from the play more effectively than White or Markov for instance. He is what you may call a non flashy quietly efficient 3rd liner. Habs need one right now.

    • ProHabs says:

      Blundun is a career minor leaguer. It is Moen that needs to turn it up a notch. Maybe drink a couple of Redbulls before the game and listen to some Metallica on his headset. Blundun is not the answer.

      • NCRhabsfan says:

        Moen has been dreadful this year. A grinder turned millionaire that has forgotten that grinding is what made him a millionaire. If we didn’t have Kaberle he would be a buy out option. There are a bazillion guys that can float around the ice the way Moen does for less money. I liked the old Moen; I don’t like the rich version.

  41. habstrinifan says:

    I have followed HABS for over 25 years and based on what I read on HIO (the lastest example of which is from one Mr. Selby), there has never been a HABS player in which has been invested as much mentoring effort as has been in young Master Subban.

    It was Gill. Then it was Gomez. Then it was JM. Then it was Gorges. Then it was Bouillion. A now it is Makov. Along the way were in-class sessions with JM and MB and MT. I wonder what peculiarity of intellectual deficiency so many posters have analysed as the malady from which poor Master Subban suffers. I recall many references to similar magnanimity of good intentions south of the Mason Dixon line.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      Go !!! Trini !

      …excuse Me as I adjust My sheet :)

    • johnnylarue says:

      I’m putting a +1 on this in a hurry.

    • Chris says:

      Or maybe it is because he was a very brash, very cocky player in a sport that has not historically embraced brash and cocky.

      You are accusing people of racism. This is the unimaginative route.

      You know who else went through a grilling?

      Sidney Crosby.

      You know how he reacted?

      He turned boring. That’s the way that so many journalists describe Crosby’s off-ice persona now. But it is not always the way that the kid behaved, and you still see flashes of it on the ice. And you know what? He gets blasted for it as well.

      You’re whining because the team had various veterans step in to help mentor Subban. You should be happy about that. Crosby moved out of Mario Lemieux’s house in the summer of 2010, at age 23 and after he had completed five complete seasons in the NHL and after establishing himself as a league superstar. Evgeni Malkin lived with Sergei Gonchar for three seasons.

      I’m not saying that P.K. Subban should become boring. I am saying that it is irresponsible to constantly insinuate that young players getting mentored is an example of racism. You make it sound like it is a bad thing that there is so much mentoring going on.

      This isn’t a bad thing. It is a sign that the Habs are becoming serious once again about helping their young kids adjust to professional hockey life.

      Countless veteran hockey players over the seasons have spent lots of times with young stars to help them realize their potential. This is part of the reason why jersey retirement ceremonies are often boring to watch…there are countless people along the way that were crucial to helping that player develop.

      P.K. Subban needed a veteran, calming influence like Hal Gill to mediate his exuberance on a veteran laden club. He also needed Gill’s steadying influence as a partner to help him learn the ropes. Gill couldn’t rely on youthful exuberance or other-worldly skill…he succeeded by being smart and studying his opponents. I think it is great that he shared his experience with Subban.

      Gomez was a player who has been through the trenches and knows what it is like to be a lightning rod for criticism. Once again, you make it sound like a bad thing that a player with that experience might be willing to be a sounding board for a young Subban.

      As for Markov, he is simply one of the most intelligent defencemen in the NHL. I am ecstatic that he is back, as I think that watching his play in the offensive zone is a textbook on how to be an effective powerplay quarterback. Subban has undoubtedly matured, but don’t think for a nanosecond that Markov’s presence hasn’t been a further boon to Subban’s metoric development.

      In the old days, there is a solid chance that P.K. Subban would just be breaking into the NHL. Larry Robinson became a regular at age 22, as did Guy Lapointe. Serge Savard was 23 (the same age as Subban this season).

      Chris Chelios and Rod Langway both became regulars at age 22.

      Eric Desjardins became a regular at age 20, but Andrei Markov didn’t break in until age 22.

      So in your 25 years of folowing the Habs, you haven’t seen the kind mentoring that Subban has had to “endure” because they generally did their development in the minors where you couldn’t see what they were up to. The few that did come up young were absolutely mentored heavily.

      Petr Svoboda was a continual project for the coaching staff and was often working with Larry Robinson to learn the game. Patrice Brisebois’ travails are well-known. Svoboda was also a party-hound, something the team was working on…they were trying to make him into a better player.

      With the advent of the internet, the big difference is that we all hear every single thing that happens with the team. 25 years ago, you were lucky to find a box score. So your perception is almost certainly not based in reality, but simply the perception that is biased by a lack of information.

  42. Snapper7 says:

    Is there a chance Ryan White has played his last game as a Hab? Three strikes and you’re out? He continues to hurt the team and show he’s incapable of learning. I’m guessing Blunden in the playoffs when we need a bit more sandpaper.

    Win with class…

  43. Sportfan says:

    Maple Laffs lose yay!

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  44. Boomer says:

    Just watched The Breakfast Club. The most Epic scene was when Emilio Estevez was running around punching the air and then proceeded to yell at a window shattering it with all his rage.

    I felt like sharing that because i’m all emotional and S**t.

    Now if you’ll excuse me I’m going to go punch a wall to feel manly again.

  45. ProHabs says:

    Habs have 6 draft picks in the first 3 rounds of the draft this year. I am really looking forward to the team adding 6 more 5ft10, 175 pound soft perimeter players to the organization.

  46. habs11s says:

    T-Bay and WPG 3-3 with 3 mins left. Huge points on the line for WPG.

    Update: Jets win in a shootout.

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  47. Bill says:

    I would rather play Toronto or Boston than Ottawa. So maybe finishing 4th or 5th wouldn’t be so bad.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Storman says:

      Forget about who we match up against better, I would rather play Toronto or Boston than any other team for the buzz and fun factor alone, Playoff hockey against Toronto or Boston don’t care what round sounds like a whole lot of fun to me..

  48. Danno says:

    Flyers 4 Rangers 2 final

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  49. jols101 says:

    Funny how I am genuinely happy that the Isles are finally improving and will probably make the playoffs this year, yet the Leafs success this year makes me want to vomit and I wish their non-playoff streak would continue forever. I guess 8 years will have to do. Hopefully, next year they will start another 8 year run of futility.

    • Storman says:

      Leafs success drives people nuts because of the constant bombardment of leaf loving media on TSN, CBC, and Sportsnet..Glenn Healy being one of the most blatant and worst of late, he makes me want to vomit each time i hear him do a leaf game on national tv..

      • Mattyleg says:

        You mean you didn’t love Don Cherry trotting out a bunch of Leafs and fondling them on live national television?

        Or the replay of it a week later?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Storman says:

          Ya but Cherry’s bias is right out there and he admits it as much, still sucks balls for a national network, but Healy actually tries to hide his favoritism but it just keeps leaking out in droves as you listen to him speak.

    • ProHabs says:

      Still one of the best and most vicious playoff series I have ever seen was when the Leafs and Islanders met in the first round about 12 years ago.

  50. Bill says:

    Post of the Beast?

    Edit: YES!

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  51. Mattyleg says:

    Oof.
    Looks like Del Zotto just got some free dental work.
    Fair dues to the Flyers fans (never thought I’d say that) for clapping him off.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  52. Danno says:

    The Leafs can still blow it. Only five games to go and we play them on the final one.

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  53. deuce6 says:

    So, did the Leafs clinch a playoff spot tonight?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_0fyUYB3cA
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    Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

  54. habs001 says:

    Good news Leafs are losing…But some of the comments regarding the Leafs in this game are a joke as the Leafs played last night and Washington was off…If this was the Habs playing in Washington after playing the night before posters would not be saying Habs choking…

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Um…

      Habs are like 6-1-1 on the second of a back-to-back game. Including two against Boston after facing the Pens.

    • The Jackal says:

      Laffs… choke? Never! (Yeah right!)
      I’m glad those pompous pricks dropped the ball, I hope it the beginning of the end, the clock striking midnight, the other shoe falling off, the excrement hitting the giant fan, etc.

      Maybe if the Habs were losing on the second game in 2 nights then we would not say they choked… but then again, we probably would, as we are all nutsy here and many call the heads after just one loss. Thankfully we have bounced back strongly after losses and have a very impressive record in back-to-backs.

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  55. doogie says:

    Sun final game Bruins vs Ottawa is going to mean everything! Bruins win and it’s Toronto I bet.

  56. Danno says:

    Leafs lose 5-1 to the Caps :mrgreen:

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  57. Mattyleg says:

    Haha!
    Lupul gets the brave man’s penalty: A slash across the back of a player skating away.

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  58. otter649 says:

    Leafs Colton Orr showing his knuckledragging mentality by trying to start a fight but instead gets a 10 minute misconduct – Good move by the ref(s)…….

  59. RazzleDazzle says:

    Deuce6– what a stupid signature you have.

    • deuce6 says:

      LOL..

      Says the guy with the handle “RazzleDazzle”..
      ——————
      Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

  60. Small_Town_Boy says:

    If this was a 82 game season Price would better his stats. He would have 30 games left to make them right. People are saying that the Habs have had a great season not to blow it now. Well Carey Price was a part of this great season as well with 19 wins. Price is the most unlucky goaltender I have ever seen play. If there is a flukey goal to be scored it would be scored on Carey Price. MT should bring up a goalie from the Dogs and Give Price a week off from the Rink. Price needs to charge up his batteries & his mind. Price has tremendous pressure this season since the Habs are doing great. The season rests on his broad shoulders. Not many goalies could handle the pressure cooker of Montreal.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I think if Carey Price read this he would tell you dont do him any favours. In your effort to show that you are a fan of Price you almost end up making him look like a befuddled wimp who needs a merciful vacation. A superior athlete like Price would tell you that he doesnt that kind of support.. he will bear down and get outta his funk.

  61. otter649 says:

    Keep Ryan White or let him go – Habs would let him go for a 1st & 2nd round pick in the 2013 draft otherwise they will keep him……

  62. zorro says:

    Leafs losing 5-1

  63. zorro says:

    Today’s poll question , Do you think Habs should keep Ryan White or let him go?
    The answer is up to you.
    I would like to know why didn’t the Habs sign Aaron Asham when he became available? I think he would of done a better job as the same type of player.

  64. Habitant in Surrey says:

    @Habilis

    …David, http://edition.cnn.com/video/?iid=article_sidebar#/video/living/2013/04/13/ab-bourdain-la-koreatown-graffiti-artist-facebook-stock.cnn

    Anthony Bourdain; ‘Parts Unknown’

    ……who I believe was in Montreal recently wearing a Habs sweater …beginning a new show on off the beaten path cuisine and cultures around the world …which will bring back a lot of memories for Me, and should be quite a popular show

    …here some vignettes on Koreans in Los Angeles, Myanmar, Laos and others, if You are interested

  65. SoFlaHab says:

    @Habilus no playing the hot hand? That’s kinda what happened with Jaro… U gotta start who gives u a better chance to win today? You’d have to agree with me if Budaj plays well, and Carey has another bad night against TB…. I hope you’re right and Carey bounces back. When he’s on, he’s very good..

    • Habilis says:

      Playing the hot hand is fine when you have two young goalies like the Habs had with Price and Halak.

      This is a different situation though. Budaj has had much more time in the league to showcase his skill-set and he has settled into the role of backup, and there’s a reason for that.

      I’m not saying that Budaj can’t play better than Price on certain nights, of course he can. I’m just saying that Carey Price, at his best, is much better than Budaj at his best. A hot Budaj might win a round or two. A hot Price could win a Cup, IMHO.

      • LizardKing12 says:

        Very well said. I don’t quite understand the posters who want to give Budaj the starting job as opposed to letting Price work through his slump. Budaj is in his 30s and has gotten a chance to be a starter in the nhl and in those years as a starter he had an overall SV% of .900, his best SV% was .905 which happens to be equal to Price’s worst season. Not sure why they think he will suddenly be able to carry a team on his back to the cup.

        Budaj is, and will be for the rest of his career, a back up goalie. Even he knows this, if he thought he could possibly be a starter in any NHL city he probably would’ve waited to test the market instead of sign an extension in MTL. Like you said he can outplay Price on certain nights but in the long haul Price gives you the better chance of winning. Budaj playing at his absolute best is an average NHL starter. Price playing at his worst is an average NHL starter and playing at his best is amongst the elite.

    • Seps says:

      I think it’s moreso a mental thing with Price, you don’t want to try to work through a slump against the east’s top offence.

  66. HardHabits says:

    I implore the HIO commentators, especially old guard, to think hard about the invective levied at the Habs, whether justified or not. Just because there is a sensibility in which there is little desire to have the blue-blanc-rouge lens view imposed as fact, the flip side constant torment serves no purpose either. Let’s debate and if need be criticize but not lose sight of advances and progress. The recent shitfestpalooza is undignified if not patently schizophrenic.

    Goaltending is streaky. All it takes is for a goalie to get into the zone and it’s win-win until the Cup is won. Look at Ranford with the Oilers. Even Roy who was money so often was more often than not crap. He won and he won big but he also lost bigger. His fortune is to have enough wins to wash away memory of his blight filled play, but he served up cow pies and honkers the likes of which have never been known. Yet people forget. He too was run out of town by a rabid fan base.

    Price is money. He has more than just the pedigree. He has the form. What he is missing is the ability to grab his game by the short and curlies and will the team to victory. He has to believe in himself above and beyond what anybody else thinks.

    It is mental, but he is no head case. He needs direction and coaching. That they are willing to play Budaj shows wisdom and resolve. When you have the assets you develop them. Price is an asset. A major asset. Anybody who refuses to recognize it is denying fact.

    • The Jackal says:

      Hit the nail with the Hab hammer, that’s for sure.
      Good post!

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    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …You’re wasting Your breath HH …those knuckleheads don’t hear a word You are saying

      • Storman says:

        Right now Price is at very low confidence level, needs to get in that often attainable but never sustainable region for as long as one would want called the ZONE..

    • savethepuck says:

      I was a goaltender for over 40 years and it is at times an incredibly hard position to play mentally. Carey laid an egg Saturday night, he knows how bad he played, but has the confidence going into the next game. He was ready to play last night, he makes a few early saves and then the puck. Bounces off one of his DMen. A few minutes later, a shot comes through a screen and goes between his legs. Anyone who has never played the position before, has no idea how hard it is to focus when it seems that nothing is going right. All he needs is a period that he gets some shots and doesn’t have any screens or flukey bounces against him.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

    • LizardKing12 says:

      Excellent post. One thing that is very common amongst everyone is we have a tendency to view our past more positively than it necessarily was. We have a tendency to look back through a nostalgic lens and overlook some of the more negative details.

      When looking back at Roy a lot of people remember him as the fiery goalie who almost through shear will refused to give up goals in the post season. He had a penchant for stepping up his game when the games were most important. He was a great goalie and should be remembered that way but because so many years have passed since he was in MTL we tend to forget the bumps in the road. He was great, he was elite, but he was not perfect and I remember there were fans that used to complain about him the same way they complain about Price now. Also 92/93 was probably one of Roy’s worst regular seasons with the habs. His .894 SV% was good enough for 8th in the league in SV% for 4 of the 5 seasons before 92/93 and had a SV% above .900 in all those seasons.

  67. Mark C says:

    Jeff Skinner looks to have ANOTHER concussion after getting crushed by Jared Cowen. I thought having large, tough players and fighters prevented smaller skilled from these things. Guess Westgarth, Gleason, Blanchard, Harrison, and the Staal boys aren’t enough.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=666124&navid=nhl:topheads

    • jols101 says:

      No matter how tough a team is injuries are going to happen but if you are watching the game Cowen had to answer the bell twice for that hit. That is what tough teams do.

      If that was Gallagher getting crushed by Cowen our tiny Habs would be patting him on the bum and inviting him for a beer after the game. That’s the problem with our Habs( minus Prust, of course).

      • ProHabs says:

        Well put jols. At least Cowen had to answer the bell twice for his hit. Nobody on the Habs even gave Kadri a dirty look when he hammered Eller and then Gallager.

      • Bill says:

        Cohen had to answer the bell. Which he did, and no harm done. Meanwhile Skinner still has a concussion. His point was that having to “answer the bell” doesn’t deter other teams from running your stars, you didn’t address that point.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

        • jols101 says:

          I addressed it when I said injuries happen to all teams – tough or soft.

          It is how you respond that makes the difference between the two.

          If you like the soft, turn the other cheek approach then the version of the Habs for the past 4 seasons is a team that you would like. I would like to see a couple more players that push back when our skilled guys get run. It won’t stop them from getting run but being the doormat of the NHL makes it more likely to happen more often.

          It is all a matter of how you like the team you cheer for to play the game.

          • LizardKing12 says:

            That is exactly it, comes down to how you like the team you cheer for to play. Anybody who pretends that having a tougher team would eliminate all cheap shots and injuries is delusional.

  68. SoFlaHab says:

    Can anyone tell me why no sooner than it’s announced that Budaj will start against PIT….. In the same breath even…., its announce that Price is starting the next game? What if Budaj shuts out the Pens? Or hell, even hold them to 1 or 2….. Why is it preordained that Price must play the next game. I’m not a Price hater. I’m a Habs lover. If Budaj plays well, why can’t he play?

    • Habilis says:

      Because Price is the number one goalie on this team.

      Don’t get me wrong, I like Budaj, he is the perfect number 2. But he is a 30 year old backup for a reason. The Habs’ only chance at a deep playoff run is with Price.

      • deuce6 says:

        Says who?

        ——————
        Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

        • The Jackal says:

          The Eastern coaches who would pick Price for the Vezina, the GMs would who trade for him…. MB, who gave him a fat contract that reflects his value on the open market. Ya know, hockey people.

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          • kbhab4ever says:

            Price is a star and worth the contact but the so called hockey people don’t always make good moves, i.e. martin and B.G.& P.G. moves all “hockey people” . BUT some one better be talking to Price to get his head on and set for the beginning of games, it is “upstairs” that is the problem

      • JUST ME says:

        I agree that our best chances are with Price but as far as i know there are 2 goalers on every team cause number one needs to take a break sometimes. Lucky us, Budaj is hot so why not use him? What if he wins? Send him in goals again then. Does this make Price anything else than number 1 ? Nope but it makes him play a role in a team that relies on everyone and wins as a team. And most importantly it makes the habs winners !

    • otter649 says:

      Three games in four nights a goalie schedule was pre-determined by the coaches no matter what The Media & fans think on how a hockey team is run when it comes to selecting goalies for games…..

    • LizardKing12 says:

      Because Budaj playing at his best give the team a chance to win hockey games but Price playing at his best gives the team a chance to win a cup.

      Budaj has been a great #2 but he has had his shot as a #1 in the league and was very average (.900 SV% for career as starter). As important as it is to win some games at the end of the season to stay in second and go into the playoffs with momentum it is twice as important for Price to find his game. When Price is playing his best there is no doubt he is one of the best and the Habs can beat any team in the league when that happens.

  69. jols101 says:

    I’d love a Cowen on the Habs back end. The Sens just got much better and tougher to play against with his return.

  70. Maksimir says:

    Leafs losing 4-0 … time to panic?

  71. slickrick says:

    … Uhh imagine Subban missing his left leg and uhh Galchenyuk missin an eye and uh Gallagher didnt have a nose… Uhh wouldn’t the fans just revolt in the streets…

    Just annoyed at the nature of some of the writing from our own local people here. Its a couple of bad games… And yea they were bad, but don’t throw the entire thing to the wolves just yet. Our boys will be fine. Go Habs Go!

  72. HabFanSince72 says:

    So will all the pundits who dissed Ovechkin earlier in the season mea culpa themselves?

  73. slickrick says:

    I am sorry to pick on the writers again but come on read this paragraph… Rediculous piece o sports journalism there lolz.

    “Imagine if the Canadiens were currently parked in, say, eighth or ninth place, fighting for their playoff lives, rather than safely berthed in the post-season. We’d be talking revolt in the streets.”

    Talk about negativity


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