Budaj will get start against Oilers

Peter Budaj will get the start in goal when the Canadiens take on the Oilers Thursday night in Edmonton (9:30 p.m., TSN-HABS, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Carey Price started the first three games, including Wednesday’s 3-2 loss to the Flames in Calgary, posting a 1-2-0 record with a 2.70 goals-against average and .907 save percentage.

Budaj appeared in 13 games last season, posting an 8-1-1 record with a 2.29 GAA and .908 save percentage.

Only five players took part in Thursday’s morning skate in Edmonton: Budaj, Price, Michael Bournival, Ryan White and Nathan Beaulieu.

(Photo by Ryan Remiorz/The Canadian Press)

Habs vs. Oilers Game  Preview, NHL.com

Price knows strong start could lead to Olympic spot, NHL.com

Dubnyk gets start in goal for Oilers against Habs, Edmonton Journal

Former Hab Chabot coaching Oilers goalies, by Herb Zurkowsky

Firecracker Yakupov still waiting to ignite for Oilers, Edmonton Journal

Brandon Prust getting ready for next WWF event (video), Canadiens.com

 

 

269 Comments

  1. JO says:

    Last night proved one thing. The better team don’t always win!!

  2. Lafleurguy says:

    @oldtimer. Subban, Galchenyuk, Price are all-star candidates, but one of them was not drafted in the top ten. Detroit hasn’t had a top ten pick in ages. Respect your passion for the Habs, and the catharsis so many seek by dumping on a few Habs players is far from entertaining reading. Worst players for the Habs last night: White, Gorges, Moen.
    Dis-honorable mention, Prust.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  3. Habitant in Surrey says:

    @OldTimerGuy

    …I agree DD and Briere, in My opinion, do not compliment each other

    …it gets complicated because I think at this time DD is a third-line centre, and Pacioretti a first line wing

    …Briere needs 2 more physically inclined line-mates to perform the way He hopefully still can, similar to DD

    …if I was Therrien I would like to experiment with Bournival with DD and Patches …but that brings up the question whether Patches plays as a third-line winger, or DD a first line centre

    …so, the following are thoughts to play with

    Pacioretti-Plekanec-Gionta ?
    Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher ?
    Bourque-DD-Prust ?
    Moen-White-Bournival ?

    PK-Markov
    Beaulieu (notwithstanding Norm’s reservations :) )-Gorges
    Tinordi-Diaz

    • oldtimerguy says:

      I agree with much of what you say, but, putting dd with prust and bourque is basically giving up on him and wasting his talent…dd with pacc and bournival interests me more…bournival is a hustler and gets to pucks down low really well. or dd with pacc and prust…..Im not concerned with labeling pacc a 1st line guy etc…same for the others…its all about who fits where, not labels indicating who is 1,2 or 3. no disrespect intended…

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …1, 2, 3 & 4 are what I feel I think should be the order of time on ice of those specific trios

        …there could even be a debate right now whether the ‘EGG’ line should have the most ice time to improve Our chances of winning

        …if Colberg, McCarron and some of Our promising prospects were on the cusp, They would fit well with DD

        …one thing seems certain right now, Briere ain’t doing any good for DD

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Where’s Briere?? He sits? I think you know that won’t happen. The torch bearer doesn’t sit.

  4. Just A Guy says:

    Listening to Melnik and McGuire, they are right if Markov plays more then Subban tonight I think Therrien will soon find himself losing the patience of the fanbase. He’s teetering already IMO.

  5. Eddie says:

    If you want to get a good look at Nathan Beaulieu all you have to do is follow the career path of Jake Gardner – very similar in so many ways.

    And whereas the Leafs were convinced that Gardner would lead their power play for the next 10 years, today he is being shopped around and its not simply because they have Morgan Reilly.

    Gardner really struggles to play defence at the NHL level.

    • Da Hema says:

      Isn’t this judgment of Beaulieu somewhat premature? He played six games last year with the Canadiens, registering 2 assists with a +5 rating on a team that was spiraling downwards at the time. I thought Beaulieu was composed on the ice, much better than I thought he would be. I agree with the Habs for sending Beaulieu to the AHL for more seasoning — that will be good for him both in terms of his skills and for him to mature as a person. But you are far too hasty to judge already what he will bring to the Canadiens in the future.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      They were both drafted 17th overall, but I’d say that’s where the similarities end when looking at their career paths.

      Nate played in the Q, Gardiner in the US college system. That alone means a very different career path.

      Then there’s the fact that Nate will get a nice stint in the AHL before moving up to the big club. Gardiner pretty much by-passed the AHL before his first full season for the Leafs.

      • Da Hema says:

        Don’t forget the fact Gardner is playing for the Toronto Maple Leafs in the first place. Their organization ruined Luke Schenn, whereas the Habs did an excellent job developing Subban. Beaulieu is in much better hands than Gardner is with those bozos in Toronto.

        • oldtimerguy says:

          gardner will come around in the right environment…he’d be something on the oilers…he could also learn the game nicely in Detroit…he just needs time and confidence.

  6. oldtimerguy says:

    beaulieu is a fine talent, but its his head and ego that are the problem…wait till he gets some confidence and is playing well…eventually, his teammates will hate him… apparently his me first attitude and gigantic ego are a problem at times, not to mention his trouble with the legal system, anger management and good judgement.

    As for all of the DD bashing on here? its waaaay overboard already…its like liberals who have bush derangement syndrome…there is really no allowance for a rational discussion about him…my take? he’s suffering from a lack of confidence that got rocked a little last year and is trending there this year despite his top linemate just coming back and a new linemate who is ill suited to their line… I tend to look at the guy as someone who has learned to succeed at every level, has proven he can do it at this level, and will do so again…he’s just that kinda guy and talent…he’s got great vision and instinct…he needs time like any other player, to get through this patch….everyone that’s played with him, coached him, love his talent and instincts..im not sure people here, armchair quarterbacks on a blog know jack about what dd actually brings to the team…was some of this because he’s French? I have no doubt. His ppg 2 yrs ago was .75, last year it was .58 ….not so bad, even in a down year for him…you ready to throw away a guy who in his first full yr was .75 ppg and who all during his career, has not only produced, but produced prolifically? I say cut him some slack, settle down, be a REAL fan and give him the chance to develop. He is still only 2.5 yrs into the league…how long did it take st. Louis to acclimate? 4 yrs…i’d say dd needs more time before we throw him overboard…who knows..maybe ppl here are going to be right, but what if they are wrong? certainly, dd is not the reason the habs make or don’t make the playoffs…he’s a piece and one that teammates like …personally speaking, I find the anger towards him on this site to be disgraceful. im looking at you timo.

    The habs are far from being a contender…for that to happen, we need to lose all of these overpaid underperforming vets. I want to go total youth movement..keep the core, promote from within(hudon, collberg, mccarron, de la rose, maybe leblanc, holland, andrighetto, crisp, lekhonen, bozon, reway, nattinen, get rid of 28 million in salaries to the vets(pleks, gio, moen, briere, markov, bouillon, murray, bourque) manage the cap, sign fa’s where appropriate, stockpile drafts and draft higher and better. Its all doable and I for one am ok sinking down the standings for a year or 2 in order to effect a stronger team in the long run….there is no substitute for drafting inside the top 10….I mean, how unhappy are people today with galchenyuk in the lineup?

    • Da Hema says:

      You write “…eventually, his [Beaulieu's] teammates will hate him… apparently his me first attitude and gigantic ego are a problem at times.”

      Where are your sources and evidence for this rant? I call BS on you sir. Prove me wrong.

      Edit: and editing your comments to include “…not to mention his trouble with the legal system, anger management and good judgement” doesn’t provide proof of your original claim. All that demonstrates is that he needs to mature. People like you claimed Subban was “me first” and “egoistic” too, and that was just idiocy.

      • oldtimerguy says:

        first of all, his twitter handle had to be changed at the suggestion of coaches last year…it was something to he effect of, natethegreat…whatever it was, the kid is not humble, and secondly, his ridiculous error in judgement going over to the guys farm this past summer to beat the crap out of someone….I mean, really, look what he was risking by doing that…who knows what could have happened…he could have faced a guy that brings out a knife or a gun..as for his on ice decisions, I remember the wjc where he just gave up on a play that ended in a goal…just gave up on it…thought there was a whistle or something…it was embarrassing…aside, I have heard rumours that he is a head case and has a giant ego. He might be talented, for sure, but I want team guys, not me first guys…

        • Da Hema says:

          We are not disagreeing about Beaulieu’s personal judgment. He is young and has much to learn, not just on the ice but as a person obviously. I am not going to rehash the debate over his (and his father’s) arrest. When HIO debated that issue, my view was that the Canadiens needed to take a strong mentoring role with Beaulieu (and get his father out of his professional life) by keeping him in the AHL and to get him involved in community projects to deepen his sense of responsibility.

          I took issue with the claim that he is “egoistic,” “me first,” and his teammates will “hate him.” Show me a 19-20 year old who isn’t “egoistic.” I dislike this speculative verbiage because that’s exactly what people were saying about Subban. When he and the Habs were at a contract impasse, 90% of the posters here said exactly what you did about Beaulieu — and demanded Subban be traded. If the Habs actually listened to the idiots on this site, the team would have given away yet another star defenceman. The overall thrust of your original claim was simply that Beaulieu will be a “bad teammate,” but then you altered the claim to point out his legal troubles. To me, this doesn’t constitute proof of what the context of your original (unedited) claim intended to convey.

      • oldtimerguy says:

        people like me? I never saw the qualities in subban that I have seen in beaulieu….where subban was just young, it was his game that needed maturing, not his mental processes ….I always felt JM hung subban out to dry when he in effect gave in to mike Richards’ ranting and rather than telling richards to go fly a kite, JM benched subban for 3 games, thus setting off the notion that Richards was right and even subbans coach agreed…it was the wrong message and set an unnecessary precedent.

    • Just A Guy says:

      Corey Locke is a PPG player in the AHL.

      Just sayin’…

      (Edit because that was trollish…)

      Desharnais has been stuck to Pacioretty’s hip for his entire NHL career and he quickly saw 4th minute ice-time when Patches was injured. If you look at him play defense you will find out he is a center when it comes to offense only. Patches and Cole covered for him down low, and I put an emphasis on this, because of necessity. The man can’t pull his own weight on any shift he makes in the NHL where he is not agile or fast enough to make up for his complete lack of size. Gionta, Gallagher and Ryder didn’t help him and if it wasn’t for Patches becoming a hybrid playmaker/grinder/shooter last season, Desharnais would have sunk faster then the US debt would if they trashed the fed.

      • oldtimerguy says:

        total bs…DD just needs big wingers to make proper use of his skills …corey locke never ever came close to 60 pts in a season at the NHL level let alone 28. you don’t know what you’re talking about. sorry, that’s how I see it.

    • GrosBill says:

      LOL “im looking at you timo.” Bet you feel like a jerk Timo…..

      • oldtimerguy says:

        you really care how timo feels? whats with this site and all the groupthink? as if you need validation of your warped theories…the hate on for dd is because he is French . just admit it.

        • GrosBill says:

          Umm I actually said nothing about DD…….just find it funny that you singled out Timo.

          Edit-And yes, I enjoy reading Timo’s posts. Even when I completely disagree. I would not include him in any “groupthink” either, that is for sure! I am French myself BTW.

          • oldtimerguy says:

            timo is a funny guy..I get it…everyone likes a clown…but the abuse he heaps on DD is really unfair… who knows, like I said, maybe he’ll end up being right, but in the meantime, give it a rest…therrien and bergevin seem to know a weeeee bit more about hockey than timo…so until they write off DD, im not willing to either.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            You’re from France?? ;)

          • GrosBill says:

            @Oz :) You got me. Hmmm, franco Canadian then? Is DD from France?

  7. Alex_425 says:

    Wonder how many Habs fans are seeing this right now and automatically saying “Not watching the game, Budaj’s in, tell me how much they win by!”….

    But I’m no expert….

  8. SteverenO says:

    Some concerns about ice time, especially on the special teams:

    this year so far:

    Powerplay minutes among forwards:

    Galchenyuk: 11:36
    Bourque; 11:03
    Desharnias: 10:28
    Briere: 9.52
    Gallagher: 9.51
    Eller: 9:20
    Gionta: 6:25
    Plekanec 6:00
    Pacioretty: 3:25 (missed one game)

    Considering that Gionta and Plekanec (with either Bourque or Ryder) were our most effective PP forward line last season I don’t understand why they are not getting more time with the man advantage. Gallagher and GAlchenyuk were both very weak on the PP last season, and I haven’t seen anything to show that this year will be any different.

    It seems as if Therrien believes that a player’s being productive at 5 on 5 automatically means that he will be productive on the PP, and he “rewards” them with more PP time. This is not always the case.

    I would hope that the coaching staff has a plan to start the season and have spent considerable time working on the PP in the preseason and during practices. What I am seeing is a coaching staff that has no plan and is simply reacting based on the players last shift.

    At the professional level I would expect that a team goes into the season knowing exactly who their first and second line PP will consist of , and unless there are injuries, or some compelling reason to make adjustments, they should be given at least 5 games before any changes are made. So, why are Plekanec, Gionta, and Bourque (or perhaps Briere) not our number 1 PP unit?

    I understand the fans, including many of the posters here on this site, getting all riled up because a player has either failed to score in the first three games, or getting all excited because a player got of to a good start, but for the coaching staff to NOT have a clue about who should be manning their PP is unbelievable, in my opinion.

    There is no justifiable reason that Gionta and Plekanec are 8th and 9th among our forwards in PP TOI so far this season.

    Last night we saw a team that was not prepared to play against Calgary. It does not surprise me that the team looks unprepared when the coaching staff is so obviously unprepared. Special team units are crucial to the success of a hockey team. The decisions regarding who to play on the PP is one of the major responsibilities of the coaching staff and a lot of thought and research should go into it. This staff treats the PP as if its just another routine shift and the resulting lack of productivity should come as no surprise.

    regards,

    Steve O.

    • krob1000 says:

      I have to think it is an evaluation period of sorts. I think they are planning on seeingw hat the kids are capable of and that way if presented with a stock up or sell off scenario later they know where they stand.
      Either that or MT and JM consulted adn MT has a 10 game plan…and he is sticking to it!

    • bwoar says:

      Grrrrr.

      “thoroughbred”

  9. commandant says:

    Joe Thornton asked about Tomas Hertl’s showboating.

    His response is amazing, (and mildly NSFW)

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/10/joe-thorntons-response-to-those-who-criticize-tomas-hertl-for-showboating/

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    • Kooch7800 says:

      That is pretty funny. He may get a fine for that one though LOL.

      I do agree that they should leave this kid be and enjoy the fact he is so skilled. 4 goals in one game and the last one score they way it was is great entertainment. I bet the fans were going crazy when they saw it. A night they will never forget and they will tell people about it.

      I much prefer talking about how awesome that was over some of the goon bs that goes on.

      Good job to Joe for saying it how it was

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Propwash says:

      Heeeey Joe, where ya going with your c*** in your hand…

      ____________________
      DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

    • shiram says:

      I love it, 4 goals in a game is such a rare thing let the kid enjoy himself a little.
      Reminds me of Eller’s 4 goals game, people were on him because he stayed out a little longer on the ice when he was named the first star, what the hell do people care about such a thing? He stayed on the ice for a minute instead of 20 seconds, let the kid soak it in!
      Same thing with Hertl.
      Glad he got his veteran team-mate to stand up for him.

    • Luke says:

      Hey, I suppose we should be happy that they are piling onto someone other than PK for ‘showboating’.
      His archer celebration drew the wrath of many, and the criticism drew calls of racism.

      The real story here isn’t about disrespect or showboating. It’s about the institutionalized Old Boy network that prefers generic uniformity as opposed to individual expression and creativity.

      Hence the hubbabaloo about the spinarama, Yak’s goal celebration and scoring a 4th goal.

      Why isnt the media asking the Ranger’s D how a guy with 3 goals already slipped past them unchecked?
      Why don’t the ask if the Rangers’s allowing 9 goals was disrespectful to the game?

    • bwoar says:

      Caught that earlier today. He’s dead on the money, and calling it showboating is forgetting that the game is a show!

      “thoroughbred”

    • Phil C says:

      What would he do if he scored five?

  10. nova scotia vees says:

    Second try for this post.. For the last few years I have been saying that Price gets caught way out of the net too much and rebound goals hit an empty net. Guess what the TSN guys said the new goalie coach is trying to correct with Price? Yep…trying to keep him from getting way out to the side of the net (slides out to the side)….Any Price fans wanna comment?

    • habs1992 says:

      I can CONFIRM this, the last month, Price has worked extensively on staying within 4 feet and cutting down his movement even more then he already did, on last nights goalie he was way out of posistion, I belieive though right now Price is the least of our concerns.

      I support Carey Price
      “Habs Insider”

    • Grimmly says:

      its his fault they lost, right

    • Luke says:

      While the goalie coach works with Price on that, How’s about the rest of them coaches work with the defense on clearing the rebounds or blocking out opponents.

      Either of those would help as well.

      Care to comment on that?

  11. FanSince1969 says:

    Sorry if this was asked and answered, but any news on Gorges health? Francois Gagnon suggested on his RDS post today that he is NOT injured..but didn’t elaborate. Trade? Punishment?

  12. nova scotia vees says:

    I posted a comment..wonder where it went?

    • Phil C says:

      The are certain words you cannot type or your post will be detected as spam and deleted. B@nned is one. I was having trouble with J-o-h-n-s-o-n. don’t ask me why. Makes it really tough to talk about trades for defensemen though.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Found it!!!

      I posted a comment..wonder where it went?

      /you’re welcome

  13. rogus says:

    Just checked in to the hotel here in Edmonton after an uneventful drive from Toon town. Looking forward to our boys skating for 60 min tonight! Will be sitting lower bowl corner. Go Habs!!!

  14. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …nobody talking about Galchenyuk Yakupov tonight ?

    • Cardiac says:

      Someone already did at the beginning of this thread.

      I still think Galchenyuk will turn out to be the better player down the road.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

  15. Ian Cobb says:

    Be a different attitude tonight!! And the “DaneGGer Line” will be flying again. Right Ronn?

  16. Ozmodiar says:

    So…. are we in for a good solid 4 year term from DD regardless of his production, or do you folks think MB will pull the trigger on a trade if he doesn’t start producing??

    I’m thinking he’ll pull the trigger. I’ve got a suspicion that Briere is Plan B (well, plan C after Vinnie) should DD get moved. Interesting that both targets this off-season were centermen.

    • Phil C says:

      I would love to know what the deal was with Nashville at the draft before Jones fell in their lap.

      • Trisomy 21 says:

        This is the first I’ve heard of that. Interesting

        • Cardiac says:

          Perhaps he’s referring to George Jones…

          “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
          – Jerry Maguire

        • Phil C says:

          Now that I’ve brought it up, I can’t remember where I read about it. I guess its “unconfirmed”. This quote was from Bergevin about moving into the top ten at the draft in a CP article, then I read about it being Nashville somewhere else:

          “The price was big and we were willing to pay, but it didn’t work,” Habs GM Marc Bergevin said Sunday night, explaining he made an offer that included draft picks and players.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            Interesting.

            I thought that quote was attributed to the Philly pick, but they opted to grab Morin. Who knows!? Hey, does anyone here know Marc Bergevin?? If so, kindly ask him for us, please. (today would be nice so we can fit it into this thread)

  17. Bill says:

    Well Ash, I imagine Boucher is presently sitting in a diner somewhere, swearing under his breath and alienating the staff. Just guessing.

  18. Say Ash says:

    What’s Guy Boucher up to?

  19. Psycho29 says:

    @ Mattyleg
    About the Bell Centre PA announcer Michel Lacroix, I read somewhere that he missed the first couple of games because of the late start of the Ryder Cup golf.
    He’s the announcer/analyst for RDS’ golf broadcasts.

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  21. twilighthours says:

    Trisomy, I didn’t touch a nerve on the last thread did I?

    I said I might be an idiot, don’t forget

  22. NightRyder says:

    Better coach: Bob Hartley or Michel Therrien?

  23. Big Buffy Boat Club says:

    Paciorretty looked like Cammy when he was frustrated playing with Gomez. All of a sudden trying to deke out two defensemen and getting away from their game because they’re getting no support.

    ———————————————————————————-
    “Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women.”

  24. Maritime Ronn says:

    @ uce

    Please know I realize you are a long time, respected poster with great perspective and are usually a nice, very long mostly enjoyable read, yet your last post about Nathan Beaulieu was truly WAY off base.

    You mention ” Behavior Issues” for Nathan Beaulieu…as some type of present item of concern and potential short term, or long term liability.

    Is it?
    And with respect, when did someone outside the Habs org. become judge and jury for a 19 year old fella that may have become involved with the mistakes of others sometime in the past?

    Also with respect, who are you to judge Beaulieu concernig his conditioning, and about alleged ” puck bunnies and hangers on?”

    If you have proof that the situation he experienced – where actual facts and details are relevant and absolutely detrimental to the future of the young man, please share.

    Perhaps a Guy Lafleur moment needs to be remembered.
    When Guy was at a young age, he had a car accident on a Quebec highway where a fence post rammed through the front windshield of his car and missed his head by an inch or two, yet cut his ear lobe.

    He was that far away from being dead…and he was 30 years old. At that time, and if social media had existed, the story may have well been much – VERY VEY VERY MUCH different, as was the handling of Rene Levesque car accident episode where a man lost his life some years later….

    Is Nathan Beaulieu a green rookie?
    Of course he is, yet what do the Stats and reality show for his brief 6 Game Habs ‘Cup of Coffee’ last year?

    He played 6 games, recorded 2 assists, and was PLUS + 5….. while playing between 14:00 and 17:17 minutes per game.

    http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/beaulna01/gamelog/2013/

    Was he not ready, or out of place?
    Perhaps he was, yet tell me about other Dman rookies that made mistakes on teams that were nowhere close to a Cup – Start with Jonas Brodin of the Wild last year.
    At this moment, you choose Bouillon over Beaulieu?
    Why?
    Because Bouilon will bring the Habs to the promised land?

    While you praise the Red Wings system, they have not come close to a Stanley Cup in years, and had it not been for the great drafting… almost last round Drafting of the likes of Datsyuk/Zetterberg when almost all other teams were not paying attention, that Red Wings present supposed model would be nowhere today.

    The intention of this post is not to burst your HIO great standing or respect – yet to only exchange when your opinions may be way off track.

    Please know I expect no answer from you…

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      I however demand a rebuttal.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …You may ‘expect’ no answer …but, Norm’s fingers are typing at warp speed as We speak :)

    • AH says:

      Good post..lots of complaints about how crappy our D is, but then people hesitate when the talk gets around to sitting/moving Diaz, Gorges and Boullion.

    • dr. gesundheit says:

      Beg to differ re the Red Wings…As old/decrepid as they are getting, taking the eventual Stanley Cup Champion to 7 games in the Conference Final this past spring seems kinda/reasonably close to competing for a Stanley Cup (within this millenium) to me.

    • bwoar says:

      Great post Ronn. Many of the same thoughts went through my head regarding Beaulieu. He’s been thoroughly judged, it’s time to put the kid on the ice, going by what the vets have shown.

      And THANK YOU for reiterating the Datsyuk/Zetterburg factor. I see Detroit praised time and again on these boards whne the real formula is: draft 2 superstars by accident.

      “thoroughbred”

      • dr. gesundheit says:

        Uhhhh…I think the comment was that they haven’t come close to the Cup for many years…so…and how have they done during the past 20 years compared to any other team in the league?

        Datsyuk/Zetterburg have been aroung during recent years…what about previous years (since we’re talking about them not getting a sniff of the Cup “in years”).

        Regardless…they came closer to the cup than 27 other teams during the Spring of /13…(and if they weren’t so unfortunate to be sitting in the West…who knows, it could have been them in the Final instead of the Bruins)

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I’ll start by saying that I applaud your reflex to protect Nathan and defend him, since he’s one of our own, but that instinct shouldn’t blind us to the facts.

      Judge and jury is overstatement. I’m not calling the kid a bum and wanting to trade him, I’m propounding the concept of development, of patience. Nathan has earned a few demerits, he needs to be a good boy and keep his nose clean for a long period before he’s let off probation. I gave him kudos for sitting in the front row during a team meeting on 24 CH.

      Who am I to judge his conditioning? An interested observer with video evidence. A reader who has come across reports two training camps in a row that while guys like Brendan and Alex Galchenyuk and Jarred Tinordi and Michaël Bournival come into camp ripped, he’s not. I don’t understand why that’s up for debate. It’s not art appreciation. They get tested on their fitness, he doesn’t do well on those tests.

      The puck bunny reference is pretty clear. I don’t think, based on the record, that he’s got his head screwed on straight, and that he’s mature enough to be living the jet-set life of a Canadien in Montréal. No controversy there, we’ve seen players in the past fall prey to temptation on Crescent Street and not fulfill their potential.

      I give nothing but facts and detail, but a lot of posters, well-intentioned may they be, discount those, and then say: “What else you got?” I’ve listed the red flags. The poor offseason training, twice. The Twitter war with his girlfriend. The assault charge and conviction. Those are the ones that have been made public. If they’d happened to three different prospects, we could shrug them off as a kid being young. But as I’ve stated before, they didn’t happen to Jarred or Alex or Mike McCarron, they happened to Nathan. That’s a cluster of incidents, it’s either very very bad luck, or indicative of something else.

      I don’t really understand what the Guy Lafleur and René Lévesque incidents have to do with this, but you seem to imply that they got a free pass because there was no internet at the time. I remember reading editorials, hearing my parents and their guests discussing these at dinner parties, and hearing call-in shows where these were covered, and they definitely weren’t swept under the rug.

      As far as Nathan’s skill level, again I don’t debate that he’s a great skater and offensive talent, and have to bow to most experts when they say he has a lot to work on on the defensive side of things. He’d be better off working on that in Hamilton, rather than under the harsh glare of the NHL and HIO. Look what’s happening to Jake Gardiner.

      Please don’t misinterpret my reference to the Red Wings system. I’m not crowning them Stanley Cup champions, I’m strictly saying that for at least the couple of years that I’ve been on HIO, they’ve been held up as the model of an organization we should pattern ourselves after, because they leave their kids in the farm until they’re good and ready, they learn the NHL team’s system in the AHL, they develop their kids… But now that Francis Bouillon and Josh Gorges aren’t producing, a significant number of posters are advocating that we plop in Nathan, that he couldn’t do any worse. Which flies in the face of our chatter that we need to develop, from within, with patience, like the Red Wings do.

      So I stand by my post, Nathan may indeed become Nate the Great, but he’s not ready, he has some maturing to do, he’s 20 years old, let’s leave him on the farm, nothing wrong with a callup now and then, but he needs to be consistently excellent in the AHL, off and on the ice, before we call him up for good.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …thanks Norm for making Me look prescient :)

      • bwoar says:

        This is some pretty pompous shit. What else ya got?

        “thoroughbred”

        • Habitant in Surrey says:

          …I think You are taking Norm the wrong way …one thing for sure, He ain’t ‘pompous’ …’wordy’ ?, maybe :) …but not pompous

          …I think Beaulieu has enough of what Our defense needs right now, with more than enough assistant coaches and psychoanalysts coming out of Our wazoo behind Therrien to help Him grow/mature in Montreal …but Normand’s argument is valid too …wrong, in My opinion, but valid :)

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        @uce

        You are truly a treat and joy to exchange with.
        So many thanks for the response.

        Perhaps our enjoyed and shared goals of Habs relevance makes us passionate and somewhat defensive when our own preferables become either questionable or the scorn of others.

        BRAVO for your great and learned come back – as if that was not expected.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Please, Ronn, you’re making me sound pompous…

          Always a pleasure exchanging with you.

          I don’t want to be seen as a Nathan-basher, I have high hopes for the kid, but we have to consistent. We talk of developing from within, of patience, of taking the long-term view, so we should act accordingly. He would be ill-served by being handed an NHL job now, and if it means that we suffer a few more losses along the way because he’s learning his trade in the AHL, then so be it, I’ll consider it an investment for the future.

  25. matt jordan says:

    Anyone holding out hope for Desharnais or Briere?

  26. Timo says:

    Hah… was listening to L’Antichambre. Carbo suggested that now Prust might not be happy having to play on the 4th line after everything he’s done for the Habs last year.

    • Sportfan says:

      I heard he hasn’t spoken with Bob Gainey and hasn’t been hired in a while so what does he know lol Honestly they don’t know what anyone is thinking they should stop that portion of sports analysis.

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    • johnnylarue says:

      It’s pretty obvious he’s playing injured.

      In any event, he’ll learn rather quickly that Habs fans “ont la memoire courte”. He’s only 10-15 mediocre games away from falling into the Travis Moen What Have You Done For Me Lately club.

    • AH says:

      Wouldn’t surprise me at all if this was true. Prust works his arse off every shift, and then for him to watch DD, Briere, and last night Bourque sleep walk through games and get more toi must frost him!

  27. galchenyuk27 says:

    Who else thinks we should tsn this site up and get like and dislike buttons on comments

  28. billylove says:

    Being a livelong hab devotee, it’s very easy at the beginning of a new campaign for me to create new hopes, sometimes unrealistic as was my downfall AGAIN last year. Not this year. This year’s edition is not a good team, nor is it a bad team. It simply falls into that vast grouping of mediocrity inhabited by the bulk of the NHL. Can they make the playoffs? Sure, the same can be said for many other teams. Can they do anything in the playoffs? Highly unlikely. They’ll have their up’s and down’s over what will seem like an eternity of a regular season and that’s the way it’s going to flow. Nothing great, nothing real terrible just a lot of mediocre hockey.

  29. galchenyuk27 says:

    Most likely price wins vezina
    Least likely Diaz finish with a positive +/- of any sort

  30. Sportfan says:

    IN BUDAJ WE TRUST…. as a back up lol

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  31. Habcouver says:

    I hope Budaj has a stellar performance tonight. He is a good team player and plays his backup role admirably.
    The defense was terrible in front of Price yesterday; it could have been 5 or 6-2 easily. Still too early to panic.
    On the positives, the Kids are so impressive and will be a force in the coming years!

    Waiting patiently for #25

  32. shiram says:

    Pick the most likely, and least likely out of these :

    1. Therrien is fired as HC of the Canadiens.
    2. Price wins the Vézina.
    3. Desharnais gets traded this season.
    4. Habs finish first in their division.
    5. Max scores over 40 goals this season.
    6. Diaz finishes the season with over 30 points and positive +/-.

  33. Mattyleg says:

    From what I’ve been able to glean from the ‘You Might Also Like’ link above, I can only assume that one of the ‘Signs And Symptoms of Pancreatic Cancer’ is having big boobs.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  34. galchenyuk27 says:

    Alright I will show up tonight and make sure I score a couple for you boys on here go habs

  35. Mattyleg says:

    Loved the articles about CPL and the organist.

    Anybody else notice that the announcer was different for the first couple of games? What’s up with that?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  36. frontenac1 says:

    Bodhisattva! The shine of your Japan and the Sparkle of your China! Habs win big tonight amigos! Saludos!

  37. galchenyuk27 says:

    Very true loved watching the kid line last night and subban. I’m really excited about beaulieu tonight to all my favorite habs except emellin with be in the line up tonight. Kinda hoping they scratch bourque for bournival tonight they have completely opposite work ethics. Bourque didn’t move his feet once last night.

  38. JF says:

    Further to what I wrote below about our defence being a mess, something else that strikes me is that Price could see his chances of going to Sochi dwindle pretty quickly. Anyone who watches the games can see that’s playing very well and making a few incredible saves, but this is not reflected in his save percentage. There’s not a lot a goaltender can do when his defence leaves him exposed the way ours leaves Price.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      He’s played well 2 out of the 3 games. I’m gonna go duck now. :)

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Luongo will be the starter in the Olympics. he was on the last team and and played in the gold medal game. Despite what the talking heads say it is Luongo’s spot to lose.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …an Olympic level goaltender makes those exceptional saves when exposed JF …Carey allows in too many stoppable saves at the most critical times

      …yes, Our defense is soft yet We consistently out-shoot Our opponents, and there is a very visible trend here

      …I’m a Carey Price Fan, and I want Him to be the best He can be, not only for Our Team’s interest but as well for Him self

      …He is a very difficult person to dislike …but We must be objective that His play requires tweaks which hopefully Waite is working on

  39. galchenyuk27 says:

    Haha well lets all hope gally shows up tonight if they loose tonight though I’m selling my tickets for the nucks game sat

  40. Habfan10912 says:

    Maybe with Budaj in the net the boys will be more defensive coverage-minded. Besides, we can’t lose on double Guy day (10/10) can we?

  41. commandant says:

    The Canucks revitalized under Torts
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/10/old-canucks-looking-revitalized-and-set-for-the-future/

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  42. JF says:

    Re-posted from two threads ago (because I spent a while writing it):

    We’re only three games in, but my pre-season doubts about making the playoffs are being strengthened fast. We’re still too small up front, and the defence is a mess.

    I spent most of last season thinking that Therrien for the most part was doing a great job. I attributed our late-season meltdown to the loss of Emelin and to Price’s problems, the playoff disaster to injuries as well as those factors. I’m beginning to realize I was wrong; with the exception of the Philly game, the team looks as bad as it did at the end of last season. Therrien, while he seems to work well with young players, has certain critical shortcomings. He is not good at making in-game adjustments, his allotment of ice-time is becoming a serious problem, and it is beyond me to understand how he can watch his team getting burned time after time trying to execute that high-risk defensive system without doing something about it.

    On the question of ice-time, it is clear to all observers that Eller and the two Gallys are our top line, and should have the most ice-time. Apart from the Philly game, this has not been the case. On defence, things are more complicated because of the players we have. But it was obvious last season that Markov was playing far too many minutes, and he’s on pace to do the same this year. I’m just not sure how those minutes should be replaced. Aside from PK, who could easily play 30 minutes, we don’t really have anyone who doesn’t need a bit of protection in terms of ice-time and who they’re lined up against.

    I wonder what Marc Bergevin is thinking watching his team looking more cellar-bound than playoff-bound. Perhaps he’s not dissatisfied. I figure he was confounded by the way the team leapt out of the gate last year and galloped to a second-place finish. When he took over as GM, he must have thought the rebuild would take at least three years, maybe four, with one of those years being another bottom finish. Perhaps this explains some of the contracts and signings that many posters object to, including the Desharnais contract. Based on Desharnais’s performance two years ago, Bergevin maybe thought that he would be a good, relatively inexpensive centre on a rebuilding team; by the time the team was able to contend, Desharnais’s contract would be up. Bergevin could not have foreseen the kind of quantum leap Lars Eller would make in the last few weeks of last season and the beginning of this, a leap that seems to have made Desharnais redundant.

    Perhaps the same thought process underlay the other signings. Parros, Murray, Drewiske – these players add some size, but all are cheap, stop-gap measures. Pretty much the same goes for Brière, although I’m sure Bergevin would have preferred Lecavalier if he’d been willing to sign for two years rather than five.

    So that’s how things look to me at the moment. Another rebuilding year, perhaps another lottery pick.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Sadly I agree with you Jane. It just seems weird doesn’t it that a team with PK, Galchenyuk, Price, Markov, Gallagher, Eller, and Patches is not a playoff team, doesn’t it?

      • commandant says:

        I think its really early (just 3 games out of 82) to make these types of pronouncements of the fact that a 2nd place club from last year is not a playoff team this year.

        I think we’ll know a lot more after 15 games.

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      • krob1000 says:

        3games in not enough to call them a non playoff team…not even through the gellin period!

        • Habfan10912 says:

          Ben and Krob I understand what your saying but man oh man this defense doesn’t look good. I’ll stay on the ship for a while but i gotta tell ya my vest is on. CHeers.

          • krob1000 says:

            I think the defense will be fine. The team is without its physicality with both Emelin and Murray…that is like the team losing Markov and Subban offensively from the d. Those are the two physical dmen who should prevent the dominance down low agaisnt the team right now.

          • Habfan10912 says:

            @krob – Point taken. I hope you’re right, bud. CHeers,

      • JF says:

        It does, but at the moment we just don’t have the defence. Tinordi will need more experience and Beaulieu, maybe one or two of the others as well, will have to be part of the mix before we’re ready to contend.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Your post is well-reasoned, yet more than a little reactionary considering the season is 3 games old.

      I think on paper, the only thing we can say conclusively is that we have one two many li’l dudebros to form three legit scoring lines, as per the current model. We can’t have two li’l dudebros on the same line. I don’t care how feisty or crafty they are–the moment they lose puck possession, they become utterly useless.

      Therrien’s fantasy of having two diminutive playmakers feeding Patches fistfuls of goals will have to be reevaluated, and I’m increasingly of the opinion that he should consider putting one of Briere or DD on the 4th line and creating a proper “shut down” line with the 3rd. Problem is, neither DD nor Briere is especially defensively minded…

      A fine mess!

  43. galchenyuk27 says:

    So I’m 1-12 when at habs game after last night questioning myself if I should even go tonight

  44. Arrow77 says:

    It’s the right time to play Budaj. Even though Price can play more games than most starting goalies, Therrien was pushing his luck last year and it blew up in his face in the playoffs. Besides, Budaj is a good back-up and most teams tend to be a little more awake when the #1 goalie takes a night off.

  45. The Dude says:

    Ya ,better protect Price from a team of first round draft picks”It would be like giving a baby to a pack of Dingo’s”. When you give an athlete a $6.5 mil per 6 year contract and he gets blown out to the point he can’t go shopping ,then you don’t look too good eh?

    • christophor says:

      Simpletons think the game’s all about “refusing to let pucks in”.

      You seem to think the game’s all about “refusing to let pucks in”.

      Ergo…

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      The Dude hates Price. We get it. You think he sucks. Posting inane comments doesn’t prove your point though.

      Let me guess, you saw the shot total at 5 points with Calgary up 2-0 and figure Price was to blame, right?

      Or the tip to make it 3-0… Price again? right?

      Forget the big saves, lets just focus on the ones that no goalie would have had a reasonble chance on (and would rely on pure dumb luck to make the save).

      Damn PRICE… we need a luckier goalie!!

      Can we just make a permanent thread where this guy can go an spew nonsense about Price?

      • Trisomy 21 says:

        Damnit BH81, supporting any player less than the best is supporting metiocracy. You should never be satisfied with less than the best. ie. the whole team.

        • bleedhabs81 says:

          Plunk down the best goalie in the league and he would finish with the same result last night. We need a brick wall if the D is going to crap out performances like that. Like, literally, mortar and bricks.

          So, I don’t get the metiocracy comment. He didn’t look mediocre last night. Maybe game 1 against the leafs (even then, many of the goals were the result of horrible D)

      • The Dude says:

        Excuse me for wanting our #1 OVERPAID TENDER TO WIN US A GAME ONCE in AWHILE…

        • bleedhabs81 says:

          Doesn’t he?

          It is fine to want him to win, it is another thing to blame him for the loss and then attack his character. It just seems foolish

          • The Dude says:

            So,when exactly did he last win a game for the C.H…AND DON’T SAY GAME TWO,lol

          • Luke says:

            Game 2. If he didn’t stop any of those shots the habs would have lost 20something to 4.

            He won that one singlehandedly just as much as he lost any of the others…

          • bleedhabs81 says:

            I didn’t see game #2, but it was 4-1 right?

            So.. I would say game #2 he won. I mean, look at the stats. 22 saves. A 0.956 SV% and a GAA of 1.00!!!! ALL STAR NUMBERS!

            So by your logic, the team played well (or Philly played like crap) so he doesn’t get credit for the win

            BUT last night he gets the loss and all the crap you can spew because the team sucked in front of him! Your logic is flawed and only skewed to reflect what it is you want to see.

            So, I ask you, what was the last game Price LOST? (and dont say game #3).

          • Propwash says:

            Dude’s raison d’etre is to throw Price under the bus any chance he gets.

            ____________________
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          • bleedhabs81 says:

            Oh I know… No logic in that one.

  46. JUST ME says:

    Even though goaltending was the least of the habs problem so far,it`s about time Budaj gets a start. He deserves it and should get at least one start every 4 games to relieve Carey and make sure that goaltending is at it`s peak in MTL . 82 games is way too many games for one guy.

    Now do not try to find one player responsible for yesterday`s results . Poor showing from everyone involved. Just no word can properly describe but nothing worse that a team that does not give everything they `ve got. Look at the Flames. Poor team,made essentially from grinders and AHL caliber players but they gave it all and won !

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      I think you’re right about the Flames, and hopefully for my own sanity, their bubble bursts.
      I’m a fan of Budaj as a backup, but I’d more comfortable letting Price play more like 4/5 of the season.

  47. jamman says:

    Gonna need a solid game from Budaj tonight. Definately need to stay out of the box if were gunna come out with the two points

  48. AH says:

    Dubnyk; 6.52 gaa, 831 sv pctg…he ought to be good for a shutout tonight then huh?

  49. Un Canadien errant says:

    It`s game three, and we`re already saying that we need to put Nathan Beaulieu on defence, because we don`t have enough talent there, Josh and Francis aren`t cutting it. He’ll be better off, might as well learn on the job in the NHL.

    I have to disagree. As troublesome as the performance is by our blueliners are, the worst thing to do is to plunk down an immature kid with behavioural issues and a lot of work to still do on his game in Hamilton. He needs to work on his defensive game and his conditioning. You don’t reward a kid like that with an NHL job. He’s the last guy who should be contending with an NHL paycheque and major league puck bunnies and hangers-on.

    We talk broadly about how we need to be patient, to develop from within. We praise the Red Wings for their system and how they leave their kids in the minors to learn. These are concepts we agree with. Practically, Nathan Beaulieu is where the rubber meets the road. While he has skill and may get us a couple of wins with a nifty pass or a good shot from the point, that may be akin to winning a battle but losing the war. In the grand scheme of things, we’re better off taking our lumps right now, at the cost of losing a few games, rather than rushing the kid out of desperation.

    It’s fine to get him in the game as a callup, but as soon as the regulars are ready to go, he should be sent down immediately.

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    • UnkleGary says:

      Great points. He should be in Hamilton then. I don’t like how he’s isn’t playing hockey. Maybe Pateryn deserves a shot.

      CH-eers!

    • shiram says:

      If Gorges is indeed hurt, Habs don’t have much choice but to bring in a young player from the Bulldogs.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I don’t mind that he’s here as an injury callup, but he shouldn’t be thought of as anything beyond that.

        While their game may not be on his level, Magnus Nygren and Greg Pateryn are both 23, more mature and level-headed. If we’re going to throw a young d-man into the fire, I’d rather it be them, not Nathan, who needs to grow up still.

        • shiram says:

          Agreed on Nygren and Pateryn.
          Though I would not go as far as you on Beaulieu, I just don’t know the kid, and am wary of trusting media reports on such issues.

    • The Jackal says:

      I agree with your point only if he indeed has behavioural issues and is too immature for the NHL. If you’re getting this from the legal mishap earlier during the year then you may be making too much out of that. Has he said/done anything else to suggest he is not ready yet?

      ______________________
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    • Phil C says:

      So what do you do if he starts playing like he belongs (which is a very real possibility)? Your concerns about maturity will not have changed.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        He can show that maturity by being consistently excellent in Hamilton, acting and playing like a leader, for a whole season. Let’s have him coming to camp ready to play, in shape, raring to go, and then tear up the league.

        For two seasons now, he’s come into training camp in poor physical condition, he should be a leader in that area. We saw him paired with Greg Pateryn for a ‘bag skate’ exercise at the start of rookie camp, and the supposed burly defensive defenceman beat the skating star handily every time. That’s unacceptable. Nathan needs to take things seriously, starting with his physical training, and not just rely on his natural ability, not take twenty games to play himself into shape.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYJ-bdrlc0s

        Once he proves that he gets it, and that his habits have changed, then he’s ready, and there’s no issues with giving him a shot at the NHL.

        • Phil C says:

          I agree with your position for the most part. You hate to reward that type of behaviour. But if he can help the big club, I don’t see how you can keep him down.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Short term pain (losses) for long-term gain (a fully formed defenceman who’ll have a long productive career as a Canadien).

  50. christophor says:

    Outshooting the opposition regularly but giving up far more dangerous chances against is getting old.

    JM was at one extreme – “it’s all about team defence” – MT is at the other – “wha’, team defence?”

    If this team learned how to give up a normal number of high-end scoring chances per game, they’d unquestionably be in the top ten in the league.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …I pray for Emelin’s return, and Beaulieu getting His NHL game together

      …I hope this D is temporary, because it’s as soft as a roll of Charmin

      • christophor says:

        Can’t wait to have Emelin back either, but I’m more worried about the fact that backchecking forwards regularly leave players wide open. It happens frequently enough that I don’t think it’s just the fault of those forwards but an absence coaching them to properly support their defencemen – i.e. there doesn’t seem to be a team-defence system. Some of these same forwards didn’t make the same mistakes with JM around. That’s not to say things were amazing under JM, but the team did play defence effectively as a unit.

  51. AH says:

    Ok boys, you have to win this game; PLEASE!!! I live here, and if not, I’ll have to take off Habs head cover off my driver when I hit the links this weekend, otherwise I’m sure the ribbing will we brutal. Now if you win, I can go to the course, leave the cover on and quietly rub it in! LOL!

  52. Kooch7800 says:

    John Bartlett ‏@BartsBytes 25m
    Dallas Eakins on PK Subban “He’s one of the most dynamic players on the back end in our sport right now” #habs

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  53. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I voted 1 to 10 games for ‘wanting Budaj to start’

    …that is based on My preference to have an exceptional horse of a goaltender on Our Team capable and wanting to start every game

    …unfortunately, the way things have started out for Carey, Budaj may see more games than I want to see Him play

  54. Maritime Ronn says:

    @ Timo

    …And your question from the last thread re ” …why Habs players, all 5 of them, constantly collapse in their own zone leaving points open.”
    ———————-

    Perhaps PK Torts style philosophies…I guess.
    ( and maybe you meant 4 of them, unless you were counting Carey, although some may also agree with that ” Collapse” Theory)

    From here, I would like to see the aggressive approach with BOTH talent and goal scoring threat vs the passive fire away-’let’s block some shots’ approach.

    The other aspect is whom to put on the ice as D zone faceoffs, especially in the 1st minute+ are critical.

    Ryan White is so underrated in the Faceoff Win category, yet some combo of him, Plex, Eller, Galchenyuk would be ideal.

    Could see Plex-White as Unit 1 ( because Plex always gets kicked out of the FO circle…) then a Turbo Duo of Eller/Galchenyuk as Unit 2, to put the fear of god in the opposition.

    EX for…. Why White?
    The Leafs use Jay McLement almost exclusively on the PK as he wins face offs – this year 59%, and last year 51% against the NHL’s Best.
    Leafs PK was 2nd best in the NHL last year, and is 3rd best so far this year…and zone control is key.

    Yet, we should defer to Coach MT and Coach JJD, so far using Plex-Moen-Prust-Gionta as the top 4 PK forwards and Tinordi-Markov-Gorges-Diaz as the Dmen.

    Perhaps ranking tied for 15-16-17 as the Habs are now, is a goal… much better than the 23rd the Habs finished last year.

    • Timo says:

      I meant 5. I don’t just mean penalty kill, but even strength too. Time and again Habs make it way to easy for the opponent to get through the neutral zone and just keep backing up until the practically run Price over. So the forward carrying the puck simply drops it to the point and that player has all the time in the world to make up his mind what to do next. Habs point coverage is terrible.

  55. jedimyrmidon says:

    Habs need to play defense otherwise the Oilers will light them up… especially if two of the top 3 lines are MIA.

  56. JO says:

    DD doesn’t have to work anymore now that he’s gotten the big bucks
    if the Habs Trade him he’ll move on to another team keep making what he’s making till his contract runs out sign with the same team or another team though it maybe half of what he’s getting right now. That’s the way these guys work. Get that one big contract Team gets rid of them move on to other teams collect smaller contracts till they are ready to pack it in. increase their bank account These Guys are not stupid!!

  57. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …’Azerbaijan announces election winner 1 day before vote’

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/azerbaijan-announces-election-winner-1-day-before-vote-1.1958378

    …My ‘favourite’ news headline, so far, today :)

  58. Kooch7800 says:

    that was fun…I just voted on the poll and I was the only 1 so far so it was 100% my pick LOL

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  59. jyates5 says:

    A few notes:

    Habs NEED a win tonight. Going into Vancouver having lost to Calgary and Edmonton is not a good place to be. While its early with the new conferences and wild card playoff berths every game is monumental. Desharnais, Briere, the Plekanec line, and Gorges need bounce back games. Budaj better not drop the ball in net, we can’t afford that.

    JY – I support Carey Price

  60. Danno says:

    The fourth star…

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    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

  61. Timo says:

    If Budaj wins tonight cue Price-Budaj debate.

    Btw, that DD sucks, doesn’t he?

  62. jols101 says:

    First time, best friends and former teammates, Galchenyuk and Yaupov square off in the NHL.

  63. Timo says:

    First!

    Haha!!! Considering increased viewership of the site since hockey’s back it’s even a bigger First than before.

  64. matt jordan says:

    Aaaaaand that was how “Eyes on the Prize” was created.

  65. bwoar says:

    That’s amazingly accurate.

    “thoroughbred”

  66. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Eyes On The Prize was ‘created’ by Robert Lefevre


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