Brisebois leaving job as Habs player development coach

Former Canadiens defenceman Patrice Brisebois is leaving his job as the Habs’ player development coach.

“It was Patrice’s decision to move on for family reasons,” said Donald Beauchamp, the team’s senior vice president, communications and community relations.

The 43-year-old Brisebois, who has two young daughters, worked mainly with the Canadiens’ defence prospects. He often travelled to work with them on site, such as in Hamilton where the team’s farm club is located.

Brisebois, who played 16 seasons with the Habs, was hired for the job in June 2012, a month after Marc Bergevin took over as the Canadiens’ general manager. Former NHLer Martin Lapointe was hired at the same time and named director of player development.

“I think I can teach them the things it takes to be a pro,” Brisebois told The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs soon after being named to the position.  “When things are going very well, you don’t get too high. When things are going bad, you don’t get too low. These kids aren’t robots, they’re human beings.”

The Canadiens have yet to fill the vacancy left by the departure last month of assistant coach Gerard Gallant who was named head coach of the Florida Panthers.

(File photo: Dario Ayala/The Gazette)


  1. obvious, 17 July, 2014


  2. habcertain, 17 July, 2014

    “Family reasons” code for trouble in paradise.

  3. Commandant, 17 July, 2014

    Important positions to fill….

    Another defensive guy should be brought in to replace Brisebois as we have a number of young defence prospects who could use the teachings.

    As well we need to replace Gallant

    Go Habs Go!

  4. Say Ash, 17 July, 2014

    Price officially now with best hair in organisation

  5. Ian Cobb, 17 July, 2014

    Our 8th annual 2014 HIO Fan Summit is, Nov.29th weekend.

    Send today, your self addressed stamped envelope with your money order, so I can send you your tickets back!!! (Canadian stamp) Courier is best! especially from USA! I will be cut off from ordering these special HIO game tickets on the 28th day of July.
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    We will all meet and greet at Hurley’s pub Friday eve. on Crescent St. Some of us will be having supper there. Big screen for Hab’s at Buffalo game for us on the 2nd floor, and name tags will be given out.

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    After breakfast we walk over to the Bell Center and Hall of Fame Tours.

    At 3pm the Montreal Canadiens Children’s Foundation charity raffle at the Baton Rouge restaurant 1050 Mountain St.
    Each person is asked to bring one gift item to donate for the charity raffle, so everyone gets a gift to go home with.

    Then our Baton Rouge restaurant pre game dinner. With special guests.

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  6. JUST ME, 17 July, 2014

    Sad to see Brisebois go , an all around good guy , CH for life.

    More so than Gallant`s position this one really really needs to be filled because there is such a huge step between AHL nd NHL on and off the ice that this is the wisest investment a professionnal team can do. Don`t get me wrong Gallant also needs to be replaced and it will probably serve a positive purpose although it was sad to see him go too.

    Brisebois leaves at a key timing in Hamilton`s new management`s input when lots of new faces will be seen on the ice. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do !

  7. John Q Public, 17 July, 2014


  8. Haberoooo13, 17 July, 2014

    Number 8 in your program, number 1 in your hearts…

    Lafleur coming out rather gingerly…

  9. PK, 17 July, 2014

    There is always turnover in any organization.
    I am hopeful that MB will find a good replacement for Brisebois.
    Main issue is that such a position exists within the Habs management – keeping an eye on young players as they transition from Juniors to AHL to the big club.

    Does Martin Lapointe take over this position and he gets an assistant?

    >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

    – Nostradamus, 1552

  10. Cal, 17 July, 2014

    So, like, I put on a new tune and Blammo!… a whole new thread.
    Here’s a tune in honour of the coming Summit:

  11. slapshot777, 17 July, 2014

    The Habs need to have a good defenseman replace Brisebois. His replacement should also be someone who played a smart game. I would like to see the Habs target people like an Adam Foote, Craig Rivet, Ray Bourque, or even a Craig Ludwig.

    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  12. CJ, 17 July, 2014

    Good evening folks.

    Just dropping by with a very singular purpose; to defend the honour of golf.

    Within the previous thread, the question was raised – how could someone sit and watch golf, but on the other hand consider soccer boring? It’s a fair question, deserving a much better answer than I’m qualified to provided, however, in my humble opinion, it’s a matter of integrity.

    I’ve watched as golfers, of all skills and abilities, call penalties on themselves, preserving the integrity of the game. Soccer players on the other hand dive, roll and goad the official into a call. Sure, that’s a generalization that is perhaps unfair to those men, women, boys and girls who play the game with equal parts pride, passion and honor. Further, one could argue that the technology has compromised the game of golf. There’s something terribly wrong when a player hits driver and mid iron into a 560 yard par five.

    But, overall, that’s the primary issue – integrity.

    Now listen, golf has 99 problems and a b#tch ain’t one. I hate the lack of diversity. I hate the exclusiveness, the barriers of entry associated with cost, the length of rounds on public tracks, the secondary costs. I hate the difficulty and frustration associated with the inability to consistently repeat a good swing…..

    That said, I love the feeling of the grass under my feet. I love the feeling of a well struck long iron, of reaching an uphill par four in two, or getting the ball up and down from the bunker, sinking a birdie, playing with buddies, playing while hoisting a few pints, taking a cart and being the first tee off to start the day. Most importantly, I love any sport that you can play with your children.

    Maybe it’s sheer ignorance, but there’s nothing particularly impressive watching a guy kick a ball. Sure, it’s cool when it bends on purpose, but I’m always under the impression that I could do it. Golf on the other hand is so inviting to watch, if only to see players do something that’s beyond my capabilities. I can’t hit a four iron 250 yards, nor can I spin a 6 iron or reach a 590 yard par five in two.

    Finally, I will always respect a sport in which you get paid based on performance. For every Tiger Woods, there’s a Brad Fritch. You don’t make the cut, you don’t get paid. You miss a putt on the 72nd green, you forfeit the winner’s purse. Soccer, but sports in general, don’t always maximize performance because the athlete does not have the financial interest tied to the outcome. In this regard, I’ve always considered the hockey player the best of the prepaid athletes, considering what they are willing to do to win in the playoffs, after the cheques have stopped arriving. I digress…….

    So, yes, I love watching golf, the majors particularly.

    Cheers, CJ

  13. JohnBellyful, 17 July, 2014

    Saying Brisebois decided to move on was for “family reasons” is a bit of a smokescreen.
    The article also notes he had to travel to Hamilton often.


  14. Un Canadien errant, 17 July, 2014

    Catching up on Jon Stewart, he utters the line, upon returning from a two-week vacation, that “…things are so (effed) up in our world, that the two happiest places on Earth, right now, are Germany and Cleveland.”

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  15. Chris, 17 July, 2014

    Trust me…bending the ball the way those guys can is not an easy skill. Doing it while running is even harder. Doing it while being tightly marked…good luck.

  16. Un Canadien errant, 17 July, 2014

    Martin Lapointe noted that he’s in Hamilton a week and a half per month, on top of travel to see all the other forward prospects of the Canadiens. So it’s a demanding travel schedule.

    Patrice seemed very happy with his job when he was being interviewed, but maybe his circumstances changed and he can’t hack being away all the time now.

    Martin Lapointe said he wasn’t interested in the Assistant Coach job because it would mean even more travel, and he’d have to move his family from Chicago to Montréal. Vincent Damphousse took himself out of the running for the GM position a couple years back because he couldn’t deal with the travel with his custody obligations.

    So yeah, disappointing news, but to me it’s not so much the incumbent who matters, although Patrice seemed well-suited to the job. It’s more important the position exists, and that it will be filled. There are enough ex-NHL defencemen kicking around who’ve seen it rain, who are organized, engaging, and who can have good rapport with youngsters.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  17. Loop_Garoo, 17 July, 2014

    Don’t remember where, but saw video of PB giving instruction to one of our junior prospects, where Patrice didn’t like the location of the players thumb on the stick, and showed him how much different it was when he shifted his position a bit. Could not believe the attention to detail, but maybe should not be that surprised, as despite the criticism he has taken (some deserved) he is still one of Montreal’s all time offensive leaders for d-men, had some really strong years.

  18. Chwinsy, 17 July, 2014

    I agree with Chris,

    Try reaching an uphill par four in two with a physical defender running after you, clutching and grabbing and pushing as
    you try to stroke in your birdie.

    I think it is sheer ignorance, not meant as a knock at all.

    I appreciate the skill it takes in all sports, golf, hockey, football, tennis….and i have my biases against certain sports like baseball and north american football, but i will never second guess the integrity, hard work, talent and skill it takes to excel at any of these endeavours….it is a lot of sacrifice, focus and determination (coupled with talent) that keep us watching for the very fact that we couldnt do what they do, as much as we’d like to think we could.

  19. CHicoHab, 17 July, 2014

    I remember the days fans used to boo Brisebois and some used to refer to him as Breeze By. Good on him to bypass all that and take a position with the Habs. And now if it’s true it’s a stress on his family at 43 that he’s not around enough then kudos to him. Family first commitment gets no boos from me.

  20. ProHabs, 17 July, 2014

    One of the best Habs defencemen of all time would you say??

  21. THE ABSOLUTE_TRUTH, 18 July, 2014

    Brisebois been around Hockey for a long time, being away from your family is not easy. Family first, agree 100%…

  22. habsgod, 18 July, 2014

    HI everyone,i haven’t posted in a very,very long time…i just wanted to let all my fellow habs fans on here that my son is in very very critical condition in a hospital here in regina he’s got bacterial meningitis and is being flown to the calgary childrens hospital for emergency surgery tonight…hes got his habs pajamas and habs shirt and habs flag with him he wanted that with him in his hospital room so please, please,pray for him ..his name is alex smidt
    he’s a 5th generation habs fan in our family !
    so very much

  23. southaltahab, 18 July, 2014

    That’s real tough. Thoughts and prayers for him and your family.

  24. johnnylarue, 18 July, 2014

    Courage to you and yours, John. We’ve got your back!

  25. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Thoughts with you and your family, John.

  26. DipsyDoodler, 18 July, 2014

    Isn’t it just that you know and like golf and don’t follow soccer?

    No need to bring in integrity (of the only sport that remains – at least in places -closed to people based on ethnicity or gender).

    Moving. Forward.

  27. Captain aHab, 18 July, 2014

    Sending you and your family some positive energy…hang tough!

    Prepare to be boarded!!

  28. Loop_Garoo, 18 July, 2014

    My thoughts and prayers to you and your son. Will be on here aniticipating news of his full recovery.

  29. Rugger, 18 July, 2014

    My thoughts are with your family, may he get well soon.

  30. Storman, 18 July, 2014

    John, Alex, October 8th you will be watching Habs beat Leafs together, book it done deal.

  31. Bash, 18 July, 2014

    Thanks for all your efforts Ian! I am really hoping to be there this year.

    Where are the seats for each price?

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  32. JohnBellyful, 18 July, 2014

    Best wishes, John.
    Looking forward to a positive post tomorrow.
    Go, Alex, go.

  33. Habfan10912, 18 July, 2014

    Prayers and positive thoughts for a happy outcome.

  34. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    Thoughts and prayers are with you and Alex and your family.

    God bless

  35. DAVE. N, 18 July, 2014

    Thoughts are with you and your family today, John. Sounds like a very tough situation. Hope the surgery goes well, and he’s up and running for the new season.

    Save the planet. Compost a Leaf.

  36. THE ABSOLUTE_TRUTH, 18 July, 2014

    John all the best for Alex and your Family. Keep us up to date.

  37. Habfan10912, 18 July, 2014

    Good morning all! Interesting off hockey discussion of golf/soccer yesterday. Personal preference is a funny thing. I’ve seen those two sports along with baseball being slammed here as boring and such. It’s the eye of the beholder and it looks like soccer may be at the top of the list as it goes to separating beholders from their money, according to Forbes.

  38. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    Good Morning John.
    A special prayer for Alex and you and your entire family this morning.

    I shall be thinking about your situation and hoping for the grace of the Almighty to be with you.

    Keep strong and love each other through this.

    Regards Jameson(habstrinifan).

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  39. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014


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  40. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    Agree. Thanks to Patrice… Opportunity for someone to come in and make his mark.

    Continue Habs’ march upwards.

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  41. hansolo, 18 July, 2014

    Best wishes to your son and to you and your family. Let’s hope for a Tim Bozon-like recovery.

  42. frontenac1, 18 July, 2014

    We are with you amigo. All the best.

  43. DadidolizedDougHarvey, 18 July, 2014

    Been a Habs fan forever, never heard either of these songs, by Bobby Hill and his Canadian Country Boys.

  44. punkster, 18 July, 2014

    Hang in there John.

    Release the Subbang!!!

  45. JUST ME, 18 July, 2014

    We are all sending you healthy vibes and saying a special prayer for a positive day and outcome for your familly.

  46. BriPro, 18 July, 2014

    Stay positive John, and God bless.
    I’ll keep your boy and family in my prayers.

  47. Matthew C, 18 July, 2014

    Praying for your boy. Stay strong, stay positive, smile for him, he wants to see you smiling.

    Rename the Bell Centre the Bell Forum. – Maffu

  48. Ian Cobb, 18 July, 2014

    John! (habsgod)
    Tell Alex, when he is well, That I purchased two tickets for him and you for a Bell Center game this Nov. 29th FREE.
    Or the next year if it works for you.!! All my love to both of you!
    Ian Cobb

    Summit game tickets, News, Pictures and comments

  49. Stuck_in_To., 18 July, 2014

    May this shortly be but a bad memory. Pulling for your boy with all my heart.

  50. Ian Cobb, 18 July, 2014

    Bell Center will let us know when I get everyone’s order. Two different sections. And we are all together.

  51. Kooch7800, 18 July, 2014

    Hi John,

    All the best to Alex in a quick recovery. Stay strong bud. It is amazing how resilient our children can be. They are stronger than us more often than not!

    You guys are in our thoughts.

  52. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    It’s middle of July and I am truly bored and so with tongue firmly planted in cheek, I am calling out the brass.

    No habs news!!

    Narry a nugget; Narry a nit
    Not from nitwit nor from twit.
    There’s ONLY one HABS who’s hard at it
    It’s Ian Cobb who must and cannot quit
    Licking envelopes for the next summit!

    Mine and Mavid’s on the way Ian!

    Lick on Bro!

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  53. DadidolizedDougHarvey, 18 July, 2014

    Classy move, Mr Cobb. Classy move.

  54. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    Wonderful gesture Ian!

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  55. ClutchNGrab, 18 July, 2014

    Stay strong! My prayers and thoughts are with you and your son Alex.

  56. Habs4LifeInTO, 18 July, 2014

    Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your son!

    Very Best Wishes

    24 cups and counting….

  57. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    It’s all a question of what an individual chooses to enjoy. I like most any sport, never understand the need to say which is better to others. I have my preferences, but they are just that, my preferences. I enjoy the fact that we have a widespread group here and that on occasion another sport can be discussed with others.

    Given this is a hockey forum, I also understand and respect why some don’t give a rats ass about another sport (be it golf or soccer).

    Morning Jim, hope you have a good day my friend.

  58. DeadEnd, 18 July, 2014

    Ok, I’m at the office but don’t have the motivation to do anything yet, so I’ll share my personal opinion on this whole golf/soccer thing.

    When/if I sit down to watch golf, I know what to expect: it’s a start and stop sport where someone will take a shot and any excitement from a fan point of view is to see how well they’ve done. A tournament lasts 4 days so you can measure out your enthusiasm appropriately.

    With soccer, I will admit that I am not an expert and do not necessarily understand the tactics and strategies. I have only watched a few games from start to finish (the first being the Impact’s first league championship, if I remember correctly). I recognize the amazing conditioning of the athletes involved and, especially due to the threats and violence faced by some of the players depending on where they are from, the incredible pressure to perform and win. That being said, I do not like soccer. At all.

    Where I always feel cheated is from the big tournaments like the World Cup or one of the big European championships. I’ll see highlights on TSN or CBC and you see these fantastic, exciting plays. So I’ll tune in to watch a game. That’s when I realize that those 30 seconds of excitement that I saw during the highlights is the only real action that happened during a game. Watching a few players chase the ball the length of the field just to watch it go out of bounds into the corner or watch one of them comically fall down just doesn’t do it for me.

    If I remember the stat correctly, Argentina had something like 7 shots in the final game, with 2 of them on goal. 2. In 90+ minutes. I’m sorry, but I just can’t get into that.

    Curling, on the other hand, doesn’t get nearly the attention that it should.

  59. Habfun, 18 July, 2014

    Cal, I have never been to a summit. I am from Ottawa and started watching HIO site about a year ago! I am going to be sure to put it on my calendar for next year.
    I think I may feel a little intimidated by some posters on here because they seem to know everything Habs. Although I have been a life long Habs fan my memory doesn’t work as well as others with the big moments and stats but hey, what a way to learn than from true fans!
    Well done on the parody, I like it!

    It’s all about the CH

  60. L Elle, 18 July, 2014

    There are good “reasons” I have difficulty watching soccer. Growing up in the 70’s no one played soccer. We all played hockey or baseball. Soccer was something far and foreign. Something my dad loved and couldn’t get any of because 24 hour sports cable stations and the internet didn’t exist.

    I admit I am not a connoisseur of soccer, and even though I appreciate the athleticism, intricate moves and strategies of the sport, what makes it unwatchable for me is the predictability.

    In hockey, a team can have a 2 goal lead with a minute to go, but you’ll still be sitting on the edge of your seat because you know the game is not over.

    In soccer, a 2 goal lead is pretty much the end of the game. It’s like watching a fantastic movie, but already knowing the ending. Something I have trouble doing.

    It sure is fun to play, and watching amateurs play is also fun because mo changes constantly.

    But, it is the most popular sport in the world for a reason. Most of the world doesn’t get to watch hockey. 😉

  61. L Elle, 18 July, 2014

    I have your family in my thoughts. Go Alex Go!

  62. TMan1969, 18 July, 2014

    I wish you and your family all the best and I pray for a speedy recovery – tough even writing the words to wish your family all the best…

    “If I knew the answer to that I’d bet $10,000 on the game and retire from coaching.”
    —Montreal Canadiens coach Toe Blake after being asked if his team would win an upcoming game

  63. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Thanks, Habfun.
    This will be my first Summit. I am looking very much forward to it.
    Don’t let any posters intimidate you. All are big Hab fans and are eager for some fun come Summit time.

  64. Paz, 18 July, 2014

    I have a theory that you can’t really appreciate a sport until you play it yourself.
    One of the reasons why hockey struggles in the States is because so few Americans have ever skated on ice and they have no “feel” for the speed and the skill of the game.

    I had never played soccer as a child. Baseball, football, basketball, golf, hockey, but never soccer.

    When my son was 10 I was invited to a parents soccer game by his hockey team.
    I went out there, started to run up and down the field, passing and carrying the ball, and it was really a fantastic experience!
    I played for about an hour, but it was enough for me to feel the game.

    Soccer is much more fun to play than it is to watch, like all sports really.

    People who love watching soccer “feel” the excitement and the difficulty of every move on the field.

  65. Riles, 18 July, 2014


  66. Riles, 18 July, 2014

    Just throwing it out there, maybe he wanted the assistant coaching job and was told no?

  67. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    Best wishes…HIO is behind your son and your family.

  68. L Elle, 18 July, 2014

    Yes, absolutely. My older daughter and nephew both have played soccer all their lives, and both were glued to the World Cup, along with some geezers in the family who knew soccer before they even knew other sports existed. haha

  69. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    That is possible….but it sounds more like he has two young kids that he would like to spend his time with….if I had the money and ability to spend more time with my guys it would be a no brainer …I absolutely would. I actaully kind of wish the workforce was more accomodating to children and parents …I think you should have way more time with your kids while they are young ….the 3 day weekend and 4 day week in some countries is a fantastic idea IMO. I get vey frustrated having to rush around to make time to just simply hang out with the kids…..every night is a challenge to get in as much time as possible wen they are young and going to bed so early.

  70. habsonly, 18 July, 2014

    My thoughts and prayers are with you, your family and Alex.

  71. mdp2011, 18 July, 2014

    Let’s go Alex. Prayers for you and your family John.

  72. Habs4LifeInTO, 18 July, 2014

    I remember that feeling a few moons ago now. Two young kids and a Wife that meant the world to me. Very tough to be away from them all day at the office. Got through it somehow….Hang in there! You’re at work to make it all work I guess. I wish it were different too…

    Very Best Regards,

    24 cups and counting….

  73. Habs4LifeInTO, 18 July, 2014

    I wondered that as well. Then thought that maybe Francis Boullion will wind up in the job?

    24 cups and counting….

  74. Old Bald Bird, 18 July, 2014

    Maybe you will have more time with your grandchildren as I do. They’re better than your kids anyway. jk

  75. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    Hal Gill and Frankie Bouillon are mentioned as potential replacement, but have a feeling MB might go off the board, and surprise us once more.

  76. RetroMikey, 18 July, 2014

    Just have faith my friend!
    God is wonderful and your son is healed in Jesus name!
    No weapons formed shall prosper against him!
    The eyes of the wicked shall die!
    My family has prayed for him this morning and the Devil will be sent back to the ground!
    God heals everyone, just have faith in our Lord!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  77. RetroMikey, 18 July, 2014

    Kudos for Brisebois if he left the organization for spending more time with his family.
    It’s a mad world out there, we need to bring back old family morals back into society.
    Blessings to you Patrice and your family!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  78. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    That could be an excellent transition for The Cube. Bet the pay isn’t nearly as good! 😉

  79. Say Ash, 18 July, 2014

    Paul Mara, currently coaching high school

  80. joeybarrie, 18 July, 2014

    My thought and prayers are with you and your family. Especially with your son Alex.
    When I was 18 I had bacterial meningitis. I am lucky and it worked out as well as it could for me.
    So today I am going to go out and golf. Spend time with a few friends. Enjoy this beautiful day and live as much as I can. In the back of my head I will be thinking positive things for Alex in his Habs pyjamas. I have my Habs playoff towel from 2002 when we beat the Bruins in game 6. Yannick Perreault scored the winning goal. I use it when I golf, and today every time I see it I will think of Alex wearing the CH on his pyjamas.
    I hope my wonderful day and positive thoughts will inspire whatever forces we have in this world to give Alex as many more as possible.

  81. Kooch7800, 18 July, 2014

    Gill would be a good picture. True professional.

    The cube would also be a good fit as a coach but as he probably still wants to play it may be a little rough for him to switch that quickly.

  82. Chris, 18 July, 2014

    Moving to 4-day work weeks would make a ton of sense on a number of social levels. Unfortunately, I don’t think most people could learn to live on the reduced income. With so many salaries completely out of whack with what the majority of people make, housing prices and food prices have shot into the stratosphere. Going backwards would be nearly impossible at this point.

  83. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    I would not want to see salaries reduced or even the actauly number of work hours…I am thinking more along the lines of 9 or 10 hr days…..7am/8am-5pm. There are so many business that are difficult for people to get to becuase there is nothing available early in the morning and you have to take time off work to do weekday things anyway…this would eliminate teh use of sicktime/holidays,etc to do weekday tasks. In many 9-5 settings I really think this would work better for both employee and consumer.

  84. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    Yup that was my thought as well, but will he be willing to accept a 2-way deal, or play in another league?
    You have to be thinking not many team are interested in his service at his age, no matter how big a heart he has.

  85. mdp2011, 18 July, 2014

    I always thought Hal Gill would make an excellent assistant coach.

  86. Chris, 18 July, 2014

    I think part of the issue is that the North American sports culture caters to collective ADHD. North American sports are frenetic — for many North American fans, there needs to be something happening all the time during a game. Soccer isn’t fast-paced enough for North Americans so it gets dumped into the boring category. I absolutely understand why so many people dump on soccer.

    When I started this whole mess, I was just trying to point out the hypocrisy of complaining about how boring soccer is to watch (as opposed to play) yet having no problem sitting down to watch a weekend of golf, quite possibly the slowest paced sport in the world. So I completely agree that some people “feel” the excitement, and others don’t. I can watch soccer and not see a single shot on goal and still enjoy the game if there is some excellent passing and tactical play. When I play soccer, I **never** shoot. I can count on one hand the number of shots I have taken in the past couple of years. I get my thrills out of a perfectly placed pass…I love the feeling of landing a ball right on somebody’s head on a cross, or of placing the ball perfectly into space for a teammate to run onto without having to break stride. For me, that is a far superior feeling to actually scoring a goal.

    I have golfed, so I can appreciate the talent of the professionals, but I don’t even remotely like the sport so I don’t get any special feeling from watching a guy hit the ball 100 yards further than I can or scoring an eagle on a hole that I would probably score double (or more) of par.

    As others have pointed out, not all sports are for all people. There are sports I love to watch (soccer, tennis and hockey), sports I enjoy on the rare occasions that they get TV coverage (lacrosse, biathlon, cross-country skiing, luge & bobsleigh, cycling, volleyball), sports that I might watch once in a while but that I find rather tedious because the hype far surpasses the product (football, basketball), and sport that you couldn’t pay me to watch (golf, baseball, auto racing). I suspect everybody could make up similar lists with the sports swapping places.

  87. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    I’d rather have Hamrlik, if he’s willing to come over.

  88. Kooch7800, 18 July, 2014

    I agree Shiram. I think the NHL is more and more turning into a young man’s league. Although I do think the cube would be fine as a number 7 D man on a team (not the habs). He always seemed to come up with a clutch goal at the right time.

  89. HardHabits, 18 July, 2014

    I am all for a 4 day work week and 3 day week-end. That and we write off all debts globally.

  90. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    Heh, does he go to Buffalo then?

  91. L Elle, 18 July, 2014

    Guilty as charged. I’m a North American excitement junkie. :)

    Just like most of the kids now have tattoos all over their bodies, a particular sport is just as endearing to us when we have been exposed to it since childhood. I also played basketball and volleyball, and also ran track. Don’t enjoy watching on TV though.

    We all have our different tastes, and then trying to make time for them, is a whole other issue.

  92. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    lol…I am serious though..I know people locally whose business do it and they love for the bus owner, the employees and means extended hours to be open. for consumers. The company is still open…the 3 days are not always the same…they rotate but it is not quite shift work as it is all done by 5pm every day….the extra hours are in the orning so they only need minimal staff but it is enough to keep going as they are.

  93. Habfan10912, 18 July, 2014

    Great post!

  94. Chris, 18 July, 2014

    The push for 4-day workweeks and reduced hours usually centers around persistent unemployment. Canada’s unemployment isn’t terrible, but it isn’t great. Too many people are working marginal jobs or part-time jobs. They are stuck in limbo…they can’t afford to leave their job (because the job market right now is absolutely terrible for full-time work), but they aren’t progressing.

    Contract work is becoming the new norm…young people in many fields will never have a career. Some are content with that because of some of the freedom it provides, but I suspect the uncertainty will start to eat away at their happiness as they get into their 30’s. I’ve been running the contract treadmill for a decade, and I can say that it absolutely sucks for some things: banks won’t touch you for mortgages or loans because of that uncertainty, so that rules out home ownership. You can never dedicate yourself wholly to the task at hand, because you also have to be busy lining up your next contract(s). And of course there are the fallow periods, where no contracts can be had.

    Spreading around some of the full-time work so that people who want to have careers and want to work can actually do so was a shift that was occurring in Western European countries, but it seems to have stalled in many cases. I can’t see too many North Americans allowing such a thing to come to pass, as people here are hyper-consumers, and they need the financial resources to pull that lifestyle off.

  95. Kooch7800, 18 July, 2014

    Buffalo…Edmonton. I think there are a few teams. I have a feeling he wants to retire a hab. Problem is we really need to start getting some of the youth in the bottom roles. Pateryn isn’t getting any younger and we still have Tin man and Beaulieu that need ice as well. Not to mention Drewskie.

    The habs are deep in the defensive prospect potential. Sadly, not so much in the goal scoring department

  96. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    are you saying we have attention diff…SQUIRREL!!

  97. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    Stubbs wrote an article couple years back, an interview with Gill. Didn’t sound like he and MT exactly got along in Pittsburgh. I think he would be excellent, but doubt he comes in as long as MT is coach.

  98. montreal ace, 18 July, 2014

    Those songs are a very nice find

  99. Old Bald Bird, 18 July, 2014

    Back in Sarnia, the big plants had (and I presume still have) Happy Friday every third week.

  100. mdp2011, 18 July, 2014

    Good point. Forgot about the tension between Gill and Therrien.

  101. Kooch7800, 18 July, 2014

    Well, I was taking a break and playing on youtube and saw something that shocked me…..

    Tom the Bomb actually won a hockey fight:

  102. Old Bald Bird, 18 July, 2014

    WTH are old family morals?

  103. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    That’s right, I had forgot about that.
    I still think getting Hamrlik back in the fold would be good, be it as the player dev guy, or assistant coach.

  104. montreal ace, 18 July, 2014

    John Smitd your son Alex and family are in my prayers, I hope everything turns out well

  105. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Thanks. An old-fashioned countrified treat!

  106. Chuck Kept Calm and Carey’d On ®, 18 July, 2014

    C’mon Alex! You can beat this just like the Habs beat the Bruins!

    Hab fans want choice! Sign the petition to give us back our games!

  107. Kooch7800, 18 July, 2014

    But MT has changed his ways now and is now version 2.0.

  108. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    I forgot! 😉

  109. B, 18 July, 2014

    Add my thoughts and prayers to the list. You guys have tons of support here.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  110. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    must be a fancy edit

  111. Chris, 18 July, 2014

    Interesting…with Montreal prospects, all we ever seem to hear about is how guys need to bulk up, get stronger, get bigger.

    Bo Horvat, who was playing at 6′ and 210 pounds this past season in the OHL, has been trying to drop weight to help him get faster and more agile, feeling that was the biggest gap between he and NHL players. He was down to 206 pounds for the Canucks’ development camp.

    How refreshing. I think there are some styles of play where being heavier can help, but for guys whose game requires speed and agility, it doesn’t make sense to push them to bulk up. Many long-time readers know my theory on Andrei Kostitsyn, but I also think that Lars Eller plays too heavy. He’s another guy who is quick and agile, so seeing him pushing 220 pounds at 6’2″ is a bit strange. If Evgeni Malkin can dominate the NHL at 6’3″ but only 195 pounds, then I’m not sure why so many seem to feel that all that muscle mass is a requirement.

    I’d rather see Eller playing at Jonathan Toews’ size (6’2″, 208 pounds)…shaving 7-10 pounds off his weight would make Eller quicker, but he should still have plenty of strength to battle along the boards when necessary.

  112. Chris, 18 July, 2014

    My thoughts are definitely with your son.

  113. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    Interesting, not one player remains on the Oilers who played on their 2009-010 squad.

  114. frontenac1, 18 July, 2014

    Knuckles Nilan for

  115. Habfan10912, 18 July, 2014

    I’ve often thought Eller was being redesigned to fit the missing power forward/big center missing in the organization as well. I love his skill set and I wonder if the extra weight may take away a bit of his quickness.

    Funny that I’ve often complained about forcing players into a different role especially as it pertains to NCCA football. Every team seems to recruit player out of high school and then attempts to reinvent them into something else. Quarterbacks as tightends, running backs as cornerbacks. Tight ends as offensive lineman. I guess other sports aren’t immune to that as well.

  116. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Watch what you like and you will be content. Everyone is different and everyone likes different sports. My fave sport is hockey and it’s a 24/7 thing with me. Other sports only get my attention in passing, because they don’t appeal like hockey does. Oh, it’s not because I have ADHD or some other bs new buzzword some psychologist has pulled out of his ass.

  117. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    It would depend on what the team wants out of the player though.
    If they want Eller to be a third line battler, corner going, player pushing, faceoff winning machine, he’ll need some upper body strength, as well as the big strong legs that allow for quickness.

    Patches seems to me to have plenty of speed at the same height/weight as Eller.

  118. Paz, 18 July, 2014

    Lean muscle mass. Absolutely agree.

  119. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    La plus ça change, eh Burly?

  120. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014


    Hi Ian I just ‘priority post’ mailed the envelope with the tickets order for both Mavid and me.

    Note I ONLY sent ONE money order to cover 4 tkts (2 pairs) but two self addressed stamped envelopes…. one for Mavid and one for me. So a pair per envelope.

    Thank you Ian for your hard work.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  121. Kooch7800, 18 July, 2014

    lol. I was just kind of shocked

  122. jimmy shaker, 18 July, 2014

    And another day goes by without our best player (besides our tender) not signed…….how hard is it to get 7.6 mill/per over 8 years done? Lets go MB already!

    Shaker out!

  123. Paz, 18 July, 2014

    If you gave me 25 years as a GM I never would have signed Pouliot to that term or money.

  124. Phil C, 18 July, 2014

    I read an article on Pacioretty’s training last year where the goal was to increase strength without any weight gain. They were proud of the fact that he didn’t gain any weight last summer, which fits along with what you are saying. I believe DD played lighter as well. I would love to see Eller also play lighter. Speed and quickness are waaaaaay more important in hockey than strength and mass.

  125. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    Well it’s hard because Subban and his agent might want more than 7.6.
    They also could only want a 2 year deal, so he can UFA ASAP.

    I mean, wether it’s a 16 million dollar deal, or a 64 one, that’s a lot of money and you take your time hammering it out.

  126. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Well done, trini!

  127. Kooch7800, 18 July, 2014

    Here is a question, I think Eller as an example would put on weight but there is probably no way these guys can keep their weight up through the entire season. Would they not be losing weight as the season went on? I would imagine most of the players would with the amount of cardio that they do with the schedule they couldn’t hit the gym as much as they would in the off season.

    I think Desharnais lost weight last year to get quicker. Lattendresse did the same thing to work on speed as well if I do recall.

  128. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Eller is now big and strong enough to play the control the boards game. IF he remains with Bourque and Weise, we will have a line of talented bangers with a lot of speed to watch.

  129. Paz, 18 July, 2014

    Subban should get that from an arbitrator for 2 years, so why should he take 7.6 for 8 years.

    He would be leaving about 6 to 10 million over 6 years on the table.

    No reason for him to do that.

    That’s why unless the Habs up the ante Subban must go to arbitration.

  130. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    We had an interesting discussion on the weight of players on the last thread, while discussing Mike McCarron. I’ll re-post.

    I agree with your post, that someone coming in with an additional ’10 pounds of muscle’ at camp is always a cause for celebration at HIO, but I’m skeptical usually. It’s often not 10 pounds of muscle, but more like 5 pounds of extra water weight from the creatine, 3 pounds of fat (not from laziness, just from being able to recover after hard training, rather than getting on a plane to Minnesota) and maybe 2 pounds of muscle, one of which would have been re-gained from the end of the season if the athlete had just sat on the couch, purely by recovering from the grind of the previous season.

    We see this in the NFL, and it’s hilarious, how a linebacker or a running back comes into camp significantly bigger, and he explains how he hit the gym hard and worked on getting stronger and more powerful. The next summer, he’s described as coming in ‘shredded, ripped’, and the player explains that he wanted to get lighter and more agile, faster for the season, and felt too bulky and heavy the previous season. And the cycle never ends. A lineman comes in bulked up and says he wants to dominate the line of scrimmage, the next season he comes in twenty pounds lighter and says it will help him in the running game and he hopes the coaches allow him to ‘pull’ more and take on linebackers and safeties in the second level.

    Murderer-at-large Ray Lewis yo-yoed from heavy to lighter to heavy again, and he always rationalized it as needing to stack the line of scrimmage one year, then the next saying the scheme will be different and he needs to cover tight ends in the passing game. He credited bicycling for his loss of weight at the end of his career, but then ripped a triceps in his final season, which is normally a season-ending injury. Ray miraculously returned for the playoffs, and there were whispers about how huge he looked, how he’d packed on pounds, which is kind of hard to do for your upper body if your triceps is out of commission and you can’t bench-press, but anyway, no reporters wanted to get fatally stabbed so no one pushed the issue too far, even when the deer-antler spray malarkey surfaced. Anyway, no harm no foul, Ray must be a good guy, he’s a woofer for ESPN right along with MeShawn John$on.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  131. Chelios24, 18 July, 2014

    I agree

  132. Chelios24, 18 July, 2014

    Eller is tall enough but I think he lacks the size/strength to be a very effective 3rd line player (and doubt he’ll get the chance to play much on the first two lines).

  133. CharlieHodgeFan, 18 July, 2014

    And another day goes by without our second best player not signed…….how hard is it to get a deal reasonable to both sides done? Lets go PK already!

    It could be that, you know.

  134. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    ***Re-posted*** On player weight vs. strength and power

    Un Canadien errant JULY 15, 2014 AT 5:14 PM

    We’d heard that Michael McCarron trained last summer in London with former Knight and Habs prospect Jarred Tinordi, and I thought that was great news. Jarred has demonstrated a seriousness, a commitment to his physical training, and the proof is in the pudding. From a gangly 205 lbs. youngster when he was drafted, Jarred has added some serious muscle, some size since then, and weighs in at 227 pounds according to the latest update on the Canadiens website. And you can tell it’s ‘good weight’, his traps and neck are markedly more developed then before. He’s not puffy in the face, it’s not cheeseburger weight.

    So that was a great help for Michael to start his pro career, even though his initiation to the OHL wasn’t smooth. There’s nothing to help motivate you like a good training partner, especially one who’s stronger than you. We hoped that he’d put in another good summer of training, and come back bigger, badder, better next season.

    And that seems to be what’s in the offing, since Mike is training again this summer with Jarred Tinordi and Bo Horvat among others in London, under the direction of a physical conditioning coach. He has already put on five pounds this summer, and weighed in at the prospects camp at 241 pounds. Martin Lapointe said that he’s come into camp bigger, stronger, and leaner, that his body composition measurements are all improved this summer, so he’s shedding some french fry-derived baby fat.

    Michael also said the team has asked him to work on his speed, so that’s what he’s focusing on right now in the gym. Some may think that’s paradoxical, putting on weight yet working on quickness and speed. Ed brought up the point that usually a player drops weight to get quicker. David Desharnais did that very thing last off-season.

    In Michael’s case though, we need to remember that he’s a growing boy, still a teen, and he’ll just naturally add weight as he fills out. We definitely don’t want him to be dropping weight at this stage of his development. He’s not a rolly-polly kid like Alexis Pépin, a guy who didn’t train and didn’t pay attention to nutrition, and now needs to slim down to become a pro.

    Further, when a player adds muscle in the amounts that Michael McCarron and Jarred Tinordi do, most of it ends up in the legs and the hips, the core. So it’s not dead weight that needs to be lugged around the ice, but rather extra cubic inches for the engine. It’s muscle that helps a player go.

    If Michael is training hard, doing squats in the gym and box jumps and plyometric work, if he’s running stairs, and doing his work on the ice, and eating lots of protein, his quads and glutes and hamstrings will grow like weeds, like when Wile E. Coyote sent away for those ACME pills. He’s a growing boy, he’s got lots of testosterone, packing on muscle is no problem for a kid like that.

    So I’m happy that Mike, since he has that giant boyish frame anyway, is packing on some meat, which will make him quicker, faster, more explosive, stronger on his skates, and improve his balance. A lot of the critiques of his play, that he’s ‘not on the puck’ but rather chasing the play, that he takes a while to get going, that he’s not very agile, that he doesn’t hit that hard, he has a hard time lining up a player and really unloading on him, that he falls down a lot after contact, all these issues can be addressed by him being stronger and more explosive in his legs and hips, and stronger in his core.

  135. Chelios24, 18 July, 2014

    Losing Gallant will prove more costly than most people think. He was like a second head coach back there. I think Therrien is a good motivator but not particularly intelligent

  136. Paz, 18 July, 2014

    Chris, here’s my theory on Andre Kostytsin. He was ruined and corrupted by Sergei. Sergei thinks he’s a movie star. Hockey players need more discipline than movie stars. They drink, they smoke, they stay out late, they inevitably slow down, and eventually crash and burn.

    So yes Andre was playing too heavy.

    He was also corrupted by his brother.

  137. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    goaliehabsfan JULY 15, 2014 AT 10:20 PM

    You make an excellent point that most people don’t understand about body weight and how it relates to performance, and speed in particular. To be fast you need to be strong and powerful. Take a look at a sprinter for an example, and compare them to a marathoner. the sprinter is big and strong, while the marathoner is thin and light. This is why McCarron needs to put on “weight”.

    However, just putting on mass, even muscle mass is not enough, he needs to train specifically for explosiveness and speed, which has a major neurological component to it. This is why many people are thrown off by what seems to be contradictory. They’ll see players come into camp having “bulked up” over the summer, sometimes they are faster (because they’ve been training for speed), sometimes they’re slower (because they’ve been training for size, or some other component). They’ll automatically look to the weight change as the cause of the change in speed.

    In reality weight gain is merely a side effect of your training modality when training for speed. You can get bigger, even if it’s lean muscle mass, without getting a lot stronger, but you cannot get a lot stronger without getting bigger. The question is whether the added mass has strength, and if that strength has been properly converted into power and speed.

    The point of all this is to say don’t look too much into the numbers on the scale as the players are weighed in at these camps, it won’t tell you much about how they will perform on the ice.

  138. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    Un Canadien errant JULY 15, 2014 AT 11:10 PM

    I agree with your points, with the caveat that most junior or pro players now train under the supervision of coaches who understand this relationship. They don’t spend their days doing preacher curls, they’re doing plyometric work, focusing on strength and explosiveness. So usually, if a player comes in with greater lean body mass, it comes with increased strength and power.

    But then again, it didn’t work for David Desharnais two seasons ago, so it’s not a guaranteed win.

  139. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    goaliehabsfan JULY 15, 2014 AT 11:20 PM

    It’s becoming the norm, but you’d be surprised at the number of players that rely on personal trainers that don’t actually understand the difference between training for performance and general prep. I was helping out with the Canucks training camp last fall, and it was very apparent who had a good coach/trainer, and who didn’t. Almost everyone looked like they were in top shape, but as soon as they actually had to move or perform, it was a different story for some of them.

  140. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    MT has done well with the players he’s had. Habs will easily replace Gallant.

  141. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    I don’t know, but it’s true that Andrei bulked up a lot.×615/201109/16/378297-andrei-kostitsyn.jpg

    It seems to me most hockey players don’t have such developed upper bodies usually.

  142. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    Great post!

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  143. TMan1969, 18 July, 2014

    Ditto – nice and heartfelt…

    “If I knew the answer to that I’d bet $10,000 on the game and retire from coaching.”
    —Montreal Canadiens coach Toe Blake after being asked if his team would win an upcoming game

  144. Habfan10912, 18 July, 2014

    Trini, you’re a class act with a good heart.

  145. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    Lucien Deblois … COME ON DOWN!

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  146. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    Again, I’ll weigh in that this article doesn’t exist. There’s an unnamed player who is quoted, some people guessed it was Hal Gill, but it’s just a rumour.

    Further, if Hal Gill replaced Patrice Brisebois, he wouldn’t really deal with Michel Therrien, as Player Development Coach he’d report directly to Director of Player Development Martin Lapointe, so the issue is moot anyway.

    I think Hal Gill is a great candidate for the position, it seems like he and his family really liked Montréal. I’d give him the thumbs up.

  147. franco, 18 July, 2014

    Your comment was NOT particularly ‘intelligent’.

    If Therien is a multi-millionaire from hockey and a head coach in the NHL, what does that make the rest of us?

    I assume you are a millionaire with an extensive coaching background.

  148. Loop_Garoo, 18 July, 2014

    Andrei was a horse, one of the strongest players in the league, when he played hard he could dominate. Unfortunately that only happened for a few minutes here and there.

  149. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    Anybody has videos from post development camp; pre rookie camp;pre-arbitration exec meeting; Patrice Brisebois exit meeting with MB;MT’s Gerard Gallant notes photo copying????


    Even pics of Bell Centre Lobby will do!

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  150. jimmy shaker, 18 July, 2014

    Could be….but this time around MB has to be the flexible one. PK took that bridge contract in good faith……now it’s MB’s turn.

    Shaker out!

  151. jimmy shaker, 18 July, 2014

    hometown discount, room for MB to help the team further with more money to manoeuvre in the future. Very reasonable deal for both sides.

    Shaker out!

  152. Loop_Garoo, 18 July, 2014

    It is the Habs decision whether it will be a one or two year deal if it goes to arbitration, not Subban’s.

  153. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    @ Cal and Habfan10912…. we don’t need a frustrated weed whacking Grandma pacing the Capitol come November.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  154. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    Some final thoughts about players weight, especially when they come in after a summer of hard training. Normally, a player will come in heavier than at the end of the previous season, just from having recovered from the previous season’s grind. So a smaller Brian Gionta will be two or three pounds heavier at camp maybe, while a larger Hal Gill or Douglas Murray will be five or seven pounds heavier. Then, the stress of the season, the exertion and the travel will wear them down again by the next spring.

    Young players will come in with more significant weight gains, from natural growth and filling out, going from teen to man. So a an eighteen-year old Brett Lernout will possibly add another five pounds naturally, easily, so he’ll roll into camp ‘ten pounds heavier’. Journalists routinely add ‘of pure muscle’, but that’s not necessarily so.

    As players age, the weight gains should become less noticeable. Jarred Tinordi is probably in the last year or so of coming into camp significantly heavier than the previous season. At 22, he’ll be pretty close to filled out, and his weight should stabilize for the rest of his career, he might add a pound a year the rest of the way.

    A special case might be Nathan Beaulieu. He’s 21, still filling out, and he reportedly has never really dedicated himself to his physical conditioning, but is doing so this summer. Since he’s starting from a relatively untrained base, he has a lot of low-hanging fruits to pick, lots of room to grow, so he might make relatively large gains in size and strength and power in the next couple of years, until he gets closer to his ceiling and his gains become incremental.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  155. HardHabits, 18 July, 2014

    Any sport is more fun to play than to watch, unless of course a person is too out of shape to really enjoy the vigor of the game, notwithstanding golf… which only at the highest levels played can really be considered a sport. That being said, golf is really nothing more than a stroll through the park while drinking beer with interludes of knocking a ball around with a stick. About as much a sport as billiards is.

    Needless to say golf is by far the most boring sport to watch, much, much, much more boring than soccer, with baseball trailing close behind and tennis not that far from that.

    This is a hockey site right? Last I remembered it was. I do admit, that my memory is sketchy at times.

  156. crane, 18 July, 2014

    Prust should be our 13th player not Bournival, unless Prust has made a hugh recovery.this puts Moen 14th.

  157. UKRAINIANhab, 18 July, 2014

    “Stroll through a park while drinking beer with interludes of knocking a ball around with a stick”

    It aint that easy brother.

  158. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    You must have misremembered

  159. CJ, 18 July, 2014

    Good afternoon.

    My apologies for not having extended the courtesy of reply earlier – I was on the golf course.

    I will defer to the majority. Perhaps I was unfair to question the integrity of soccer players. Maybe the guys that roll around on the ground are badly injured. It probably is unfair of me to question someone who I don’t know personally. Further, I might be the only member of the commentariat who didn’t watch every game. I caught 30 minutes of the championship match on the recommedation of folks here. I mean it was ok, but just isn’t my thing.

    As I noted in my original post, I hate the fact that their are barriers in golf. I myself pointed this out. Further, golf has sadly become a sport for the well to do, which means that my kid’s kids likely won’t be able to enjoy the game the way I have. This sucks. My point was specific to the game itself, but that is here nor there. In life, you can be for something and you can be against something else. It floats of my back like water on a duck. Having been raised in a political family, it is easy to accept varried opinions on a subject. Religion and politics aside, I enjoy discussing ideas with each of you and thank you for taking the time to share feedback on my post.

    In any event, golf – soccer, whatever. Neither is hockey or lacrosse. I am not sure if fishing is a sport, but I like that too.

    None of this really matters anyway. What does matter is our friend Alex, who is having a tough go. As a father of two little boys, I can only imagine what John is feeling. If you read this John, please know that I am thinking about you and Alex. I know that it is not for everyone, but you are in my prayers.

    Cheers, CJ

  160. CJ, 18 July, 2014

    I had never heard that word until Roger Clemons used it no fewer than 25 times while being grilled on Capital Hill.

  161. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    I don’t think anyone had!

  162. Bash, 18 July, 2014

    HH says
    “…which only at the highest levels played can really be considered a sport.”

    Not sure what that means. So sport only exists at the highest levels?
    Care to explain that one?

    I have played many sports, five at a provincial level and one at the national , none of which are the “highest levels”.

    I am a 7 handicap in golf and while that won’t get any PGA trophies I would still consider golf a sport.

    And BTW…I consider table tennis to be the most demanding technically and athletically….or maybe that’s just at the highest level?

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  163. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    I always thought is was about some miss he had remembered. Guess you learn something new every day.

  164. Habs4LifeInTO, 18 July, 2014

    Looking forward to that actually…haven’t been to the zoo in a while! enjoy your Grand kids!!Many Thanks B

    24 cups and counting….

  165. UKRAINIANhab, 18 July, 2014

    The cost for tournaments these days is also a little too much. Also, there are no longer any courses in between nice (expensive) and bad (cow pasture). So, you either pay a lot to play a nice course or don’t and play at a not so nice one.

    CJ: (when I come up to Ottawa I am playing Hautes Plaines in Gatineau in a rather big tournament. Have you played here before? If you have some tips would be appreciated, thx!)

    John: I have been in your situation before and just keep on believing buddy, think positive, always works. I will be thinking of you both. CHeers.

  166. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Badminton is a killer, too. Those shuttlecocks are nasty.

  167. UKRAINIANhab, 18 July, 2014

    Lol. Hard not to laugh.

  168. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    Some historical perspective on GOLF may be obtained in the long form name upon which the acronym GOLF is based.

    Now I am in no way joining the debate re soccer vs golf (is there one) or integrity of soccer players vs integrity of golf players.

    Of the three main subjects of this debate Soccer/Golf/Integrity.. I can claim a personal level of achievement in only one….so my opinion is unworthy.

    However as I promise… the acronym GOLF was created to restrict the game for “Gentlemen ONLY Ladies Forbidden”

    Just sayin. Who knows in the lineage of Golf’s heritage one may find a Wahington Redskin stakeholder ancestor.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  169. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    It is considered a sport…but not by me and I love golf…maybe that is too harsh…it is somethign I would call more of a game curling, bowling, darts,etc….something that while it defintiely requires skill it does not really require much in the way of athletic ability.

  170. Ozmodiar, 18 July, 2014

    Golf vs Soccer …

    Which sport is better?

    Before that question can be answered, this one should be considered:
    Is golf even a sport??

    Of course, to each their own, but I’ll say this: nobody questions whether or not soccer is a sport. :)

  171. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    You got that right!

  172. UKRAINIANhab, 18 July, 2014

    It isn’t a sport…

    It is the hardest sport in the world. By far.

  173. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    Well there’s the rise of “mind” sports, where as usually sports are considered to be of the physical strength and dexterity type.
    Chess and bridge are considered sports by some.

    Anyways, golf is certainly a sport in my mind, those pro have developed top level physical abilities that cannot be easily replicated without natural talent and lots of practice.

  174. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    I am enjoying the groundbreaking discussion on the morality and excitement of certain sports.

    Fun reads all around.

    Which brings me to one area in which I think SPORTS is unforgivably unfair.

    Sports advertising!

    I was watching DARTS on TV a few weeks ago (YES I said darts).

    I noticed two things. Dart players are now so inferior to their legendary forerunners. I mean before when I watched darts on TV I can’t tell you how often I heard the iconic “One huuuuuuudreeeeeed aaaaaannnd eisghtyyyyyyyyy” I watched two games and heard 180 but once.

    But I digress.

    I noticed that all the models who paraded on stage to introduce the contestants were ‘shapely’ 0-size proportions. And of course the contestants all looked (how shall i put it) like they ’rounded into shape’ on Guinness and beer.

    On behalf of your ample (i say voluptuous you say ample) cleavage laden buxom well butted gal everywhere (and their gentlemen admirers) I say IF THERE IS ONE SPORT WHERE THE PULCHRITUDE OF THE LARGER WOMAN should be embraced… it is DARTS!

    The average dart model should tip the scale at a becoming ONE HUndreeeeeddd aaaand eightyyyyyy”

    Carry on!

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  175. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    So you’re saying the world needs more Kate Uptons?

  176. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Heck, every time I hear 180 I have this urge to turn around.

  177. Ozmodiar, 18 July, 2014


    (it’s Friday, so…)

  178. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    On the right track! LOL!

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  179. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Confounded mirror! :)

  180. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    Is it Wilt Chamberlain who was famous for the most shuttles of his shuttlecock in ONE elevator ride?

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  181. D Mex, 18 July, 2014

    Potential Brisebois replacement : Gaston Gingras ?

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  182. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    !ƚi ǫnɒb ,ƚi ʇʇo ƚɘǫ ,woИ .ʜƚǫnɘlɘvɒw ym no ɘɿ’uoy ,ƨiʜƚ bɒɘɿ nɒɔ uoy ʇI

  183. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    You’re on fire today!

  184. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    Not sure about his style/personality. I recall some articles describing him as ‘grating’ as a player rep.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  185. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    Love to see Rory playing so well, a fun leaderboard. Now I just really hope the cut moves to +1.

  186. Loop_Garoo, 18 July, 2014

    Never heard Chess or Bridge referred to as sports, but I guess it really comes down to how you define the word, and if you stretch your definition enough, anything counts. In theory, we could define me typing this as a sport if we twist our definition enough. I am reluctant to do that, and will gracefully acknowledge that though there is a tremendous amount of skill required, golf is a great game.

  187. Loop_Garoo, 18 July, 2014

    Fairly certain the work was invented for the occasion, it does however, sound very much like a GHW Bushism, so it may have been invented there as well.

  188. mdp2011, 18 July, 2014

    Great discussions here today. I learned you can say shuttlecocks, but not j-o-h-n-s-o-n on this site, go figure.

  189. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    Seems Tyler Seguin has the balls for golf.

  190. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    crowded wavelength?

  191. Habfun, 18 July, 2014

    All this talk about boring sports, when I was young we used to play baseball with a stick and rock, we had to stop using rocks cause they hurt if you got hit, we started using dried up dog turds and that didn’t work out so well either. we would have used a real ball but my sister had it and wouldn’t give it back! she was toughest person on our street so she didn’t have to give it back!!
    None of this is true but I just thought I would throw this out there.
    Just killing some time!
    Leaving in 15 minutes for the RedBlacks Game
    Go RedBlacks Go!!

    It’s all about the CH

  192. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    We can forget about Dr. Recchi.

    Penguins Name Mark Recchi Player Development Coach

  193. Paz, 18 July, 2014

    Ya me too

  194. JohnBellyful, 18 July, 2014

    Short tee? Tall tee? Both?

  195. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    Obviously a cost cutting move, now they can dismiss the team physician.

  196. Cal, 18 July, 2014

    Thanks for sharing that (I think!).
    Have a blast at the game tonight, HFun!

  197. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    No chance it can though, top 70 including ties. Not enough players can get to +1 realistically now to change it.

    Lots of my favourite golfers on that leaderboard, should be a great weekend. Weather is supposed to get worse, so lots can change.

  198. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    Except that is a BS rumour regarding the acronym.

  199. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    He’s the butt of our jokes because of his stupid Pacioretty remark but he has a great reputation as a mentor to younger players.

    Quite possibly could turn out to be a great move.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  200. JohnBellyful, 18 July, 2014

    “Kid, concussion is just a state of mind. It’s a headache with a degree. Lots of players keep on playing after having their bell rung. Trust me, the clanging goes away — eventually.
    Same with a pain in the neck. You gonna let that stop you from playing?
    Sure, with some guys, it will, a sore neck and a little woosiness will knock them out of commission. But if you want to be a Penguin, you got to be tough like a penguin. Got it? Good.”

  201. HabinBurlington, 18 July, 2014

    His jackass comments regarding that incident are enough for me to continue making him the butt of jokes. I used to really like the guy, but he proved what a Jackass he must be.

  202. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014

    And then there’s this as of May 2014. Note the line, ” The R&A has such a policy.”

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  203. PK, 18 July, 2014

    I liked Recchi as a player but he showed a lack of compassion/judgement in the Patches incident.

    >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

    – Nostradamus, 1552

  204. CH Marshall, 18 July, 2014

    say.. what’s Carbo up to these days?

  205. Chris, 18 July, 2014

    Agreed…Andrei’s progress was reversed upon the arrival of Sergei. It is unfortunate, because both guys were on track to excellent NHL careers.

  206. HardHabits, 18 July, 2014

    I suggest we replace the word “Chamberlain” for the banned word “J-o-h-n-s-o-n”.

    Why else did they call him “Wilt the Stilt”? Or was that a game he played with the ladies, that being their objective to win?

  207. habstrinifan, 18 July, 2014


    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  208. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    or was it wilted stilt

  209. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    Something to read for those dutifully waiting for 5 o’clock.

  210. Habitant in Surrey, 18 July, 2014

    Posted on Facebook:

    JOHN SMIDT (HABSGOD) is a Habs fan living in Regina Saskatchewan, and a member of The Gazette’s Hockey Inside Out feature for Montreal Canadiens’ fans.

    His son, Alex, just fell ill with bacterial meningitis. Ian Cobb, the organizer of the Montreal Canadiens We Are Fans Summit has just provided John and his Alex free tickets to the Buffalo Sabres vs Canadiens’ game, November 29th in Montreal.

    This is John’s letter to Hockey Inside Out members today. HIO and all Montreal Canadiens’ fans wish Alex God’s blessing and our hopes he will be home healthy soon.

    You may contact/friend John at

    “HI everyone, I haven’t posted in a very, very long time…I just wanted to let all my fellow Habs fans on here know that my son is in very very critical condition in a hospital here in Regina he’s got bacterial meningitis and is being flown to the Calgary Childrens Hospital for emergency surgery tonight …he’s got his Habs pajamas and Habs shirt and Habs flag with him. He wanted that with him in his hospital room so please, please, pray for him …his name is Alex Smidt.

    He’s a 5th generation Habs fan in our family !

    Thank-you so very much

  211. Mavid ®, 18 July, 2014

    A huge thanks to trini for getting my tickets. We have never meet but he was ready to step up and pay for my tickets..thanks so much

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  212. UKRAINIANhab, 18 July, 2014

    They named it golf because all other 4 letter words are taken :)

    If you golf you know what I mean :)

  213. Habfan10912, 18 July, 2014

    He’s a true class act for sure. Look forward to meeting both of you!

  214. Thurston, 18 July, 2014

    Detroit Free Press article – “Division rival Montreal Canadiens do little to improve”

  215. Miltie01, 18 July, 2014

    God bless you John and Alex……. and there are too few men like Ian Cobb now of days…… you Sir are an example to us all !!!

  216. Miltie01, 18 July, 2014

    We can definately put him in the Ian Cobb category…… too examples of fine human beings .

  217. BJ, 18 July, 2014

    John all the best to your son and family. Our positive feelings are sent to you.

  218. BJ, 18 July, 2014

    He got a Bostonian infection and was never the same again.

  219. shiram, 18 July, 2014

    Well it’s not wrong

  220. BJ, 18 July, 2014

    Playing in the streets of a small town in Quebec in winter way back in the early 50’s we actually used frozen horse droppings as a puck. No money for the real thing. The donors were from the horse drawn milk and bread carts used at the time. True story.

  221. BJ, 18 July, 2014

    Met him a number of times. A very fine person. Very humble and friendly.

  222. krob1000, 18 July, 2014

    Canadian teams if NHL players played in hometown like Lebron

  223. Chris, 18 July, 2014

    Agreed…I see this year’s edition as being no better and no worse, at least in the regular season. The wild-cards are continued improvement of Alex Galchenyuk and rebounds for both Lars Eller and Rene Bourque.

    Eller and Bourque simply cannot be any worse than they played for much of last season. I’m not expecting either guy to sustain his playoff level, but expecting something in between those two extremes still makes Montreal significantly better than they were last year.

    I honestly thought Galchenyuk was going to break out mid-season last year, but it never really happened. He’s got so much talent that I think there is still some more gears to be shown, and when it happens I expect it to be a dramatic leap forwards in productivity.

    Losing Gionta’s 20 goals is tough, but Parenteau should be able to match that. Gorges’ defensive minutes will also be tough to replace: I expect Subban to become a more prominent defensive presence, especially on the penalty kill. That could very well coincide with less offensive production from him, but that is fine.

    It is hard to see the team improving on its defensive record from last season while losing both Gionta and Gorges. If they slip a little defensively, I still think they can maintain the status quo by being a bit stronger offensively.

    What they don’t have is the ability to sustain any major injuries. Last year, the team’s core players were largely healthy. Holding off Detroit will be tough, because the Red Wings finished just 7 points adrift of Montreal despite losing Datsyuk and Zetterberg for 37 games each. Throw in 28 games for Franzen, 40 games for Helm, and 56 games for Weiss and the Red Wings were just decimated by injuries to their key players.

    The Red Wings are on the decline, but they’ve still got the quality to pip Montreal in the standings if they can stay healthy.

  224. scamorza, 18 July, 2014

    the lovely missus has decided that one of my bday gifts is to attend the summit. first one so forgive the stupid question but assuming money order made out to Ian Cobb right?
    come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  225. HabFab, 18 July, 2014

    All the best to Alex, John and the family. Get well soon!

  226. D Mex, 18 July, 2014

    My impression as well.
    He was a guest coach at practice for one of my sons a few years ago.
    When the little guy walked into the room and sat down beside him, Gingras turned to him with hand extended and said ” Hi, I’m Gaston “.
    More than that, he has experience and plenty of enthusiasm. As I recall, he said he was doing skating instruction with / for the Habs at the time, so they are probably well aware of him and his interest / availability for a job like this which, I gather, involves quite a bit of travel.

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  227. HabFab, 18 July, 2014

    Claimed he scored in the hundreds outside the game :)

  228. HabFab, 18 July, 2014

    @HabsGod – John
    Here is some positive news from another meningitis victim. Tim Bozon is about to play in a hockey tournament in the Czech Republic;

  229. johnnylarue, 18 July, 2014

    Team could really use his facial-hair-growing prowess come Movember…

  230. scamorza, 18 July, 2014

    never underestimate the simple yet very important aspect of winning a faceoff especially on the pk that is why, (if he continues to be as good as he has been) Malhotra’s signing was so important

    come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  231. Habitant in Surrey, 18 July, 2014

    Update July 18th 2014;

    Dear Habs Fans,

    Almost 1, 650 Habs’ fans across Canada, the USA, Europe, Russia and Asia, have already signed the #RogersPetition.

    We would like to reach a minimum of 2,000 and more, so I hope you will read the following and sign your support if you believe in the cause.

    As well please contact your family members, friends, and acquaintances in Canada, the USA and overseas, whom maybe so far are clueless of the #RogersPetition, and give them a heads up.

    1, 650 supporters, so far, is pretty impressive from a single fan site, don’t You think ?

    This response certainly signifies there is deep concern and resentment to what has transpired, especially among Montreal Canadiens’ fans as a result of Roger’s recent control of the NHL’s broadcasting rights in Canada beginning this coming season.

    Many Habs’ fans are likely yet aware of the impact of the upcoming black-out of RDS’ broadcasts west of Quebec, and will not realize what hit them (greater costs, and convoluted access) until closer to the beginning of the regular season. So we are certain interest in our petition will grow dramatically the closer we get to the beginning of the new season.

    Broadcasting rights of Montreal Canadiens’ games will be a dog’s breakfast as a result of the NHL’s sale of national broadcast rights to Roger’s.

    Fractioning local, regional and national broadcast rights between Roger’s, RDS/TSN and TVA, will cause RDS’ broadcasts being blacked-out west of Quebec.

    We say this is unacceptable in this modern age of cable choice.

    This will cause many Montreal Canadiens fans without the means to afford premium Centre Ice cable products to have no affordable access to their Habs.

    Less access means long-term less Habs’ fans west of Quebec (which may be the objective of the corporate-decision makers in Toronto).

    Some say Roger’s bought the rights and they can do as they please.

    I, and others not so gullible, say hogwash !

    The Montreal Canadiens is not just a ‘hockey franchise’ like any other, it is a national institution important to folks from Whitehorse in the Yukon to Conception Bay Newfoundland. Let alone our fans in the USA and around the world.

    The Habs represent the largest most-diverse hockey club fan-base in Canada, and the world.

    For Roger’s to say they can not make a financially feasible cable product of a Habs’ Channel, or negotiate a cooperative partnership with TVA and Bell’s affiliates, TSN/RDS and the Montreal Canadiens is bunk.

    A compromise between Roger’s, Bell, TVA, the NHL and Geoff Molson/the Habs is do-able, if fans speak-up, complain and tell the cable providers we DEMAND a cable Habs’ Channel available across Canada.

    Preferably in both official languages, French and English

    It is something, if We do not show Our frustration and rejection of the current status quo, Roger’s indeed will do as they please.

    Do not underestimate the power of bad press, lost business and incensed Habs’ Fans I say.

    Further, of cultural and linguistic significance to francophones living west of Quebec; —with enough vituperation the RDS black-out of the Montreal Canadiens’ games has the potential to become a cultural and political issue within the mandate of the CRTC and Canada’s Ministry of Heritage.

    Let’s keep pounding away at Roger’s, Bell, TVA, the NHL, and the CRTC, and not let-up until there is an affordable cable Habs’Channel across Canada to watch our treasured team play it’s full schedule.

    It may not happen over-night, it may be deathly resisted by the cone-heads at Roger’s in Toronto. But, let’s not waver until Roger’s has created a simili of an affordable Habs’ Channel for all Montreal Canadiens’ games available across Canada.

    I’m sure if Roger’s marketed the proposed Habs’Channel cable product the right way, this will be a win-win for both Rogers, RDS/TSN/Bell, TVA, the Montreal Canadiens …and it’s Fans.

    Thank you for your attention and support.


    Petition To Protest Roger’s Blacking Out Of Habs’ Games On RDS West Of Quebec

    Read and sign at;

  232. Habitant in Surrey, 18 July, 2014

    Received from John Smidt via Facebook:

    “He (Alex) hasn’t had the surgery yet …. The plane was delayed due to storms in Regina and alta Alex arrived ths afternoon by plane with my wife I’m enroute to Calgary with my sister law by car we are going to be in Calgary by 6:30 eastern time(4:30) in Saskatchewan and Alberta.

    I will keep all of you updated thank you so very much for all the kind words of your thoughts and prayers! Special thank you goes out to Ian Cobb.”

    Below is link John sent to a photo of Alex enroute to Calgary.

  233. CJ, 18 July, 2014

    Hey buddy. No, I haven’t played the course, but am familiar with the layout. It’s very short and very tight. I understand it’s a great test of target golf, but there are a number of blind shots. Do you have the option of playing a practice round?

    There’s a decent, local, golf resource – Check it out. Do a search for hautes plains and it should give you a hole by hole breakdown. There are also a number of club link members on that forum, who could help with a layout of tip sheet.

    Hope that helps.

    Cheers, CJ

  234. CJ, 18 July, 2014

    Agreed. So long as we remain unprepared to take a step back, we will not be ready to take a leap forward. We are a good team, capable of winning a round, possibly two, but this team is not going to win the Stanley Cup with the current composition of players.

    I liked what Detroit had going five years ago, but they are getting old across the board.

    IMO, it’s not so much that Montreal is very good, it’s an extension of the fact that the East includes a lot of bad teams.

    That said, if the outcome was a certainty, the game would be boring. Nobody knows, myself included. We will have a better understanding of what we have after 20 games. Injuries will also continue to define any team’s success, ours included.

    So, on paper are we better, no. Could we take a step forward, yes. Can we win it all, highly unlikely, but who knows. So long as we have a healthy Carey Price, I will never say never……

  235. CJ, 18 July, 2014

    Beautiful little boy. Looks like a fighter.

    I’m behind you son. 100%.

  236. fastfreddy, 18 July, 2014

    Out of curiosity, when is Lars Eller’s arbitration date set for, and how about PK’s date?

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  237. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    He could show our recruits how to crank a 100 mph slapshot unerringly into the glass, every time.


    Robert Picard, 25, and Gaston Gingras, 23, can shoot and skate like All-Stars, but they make so many mental blunders that they are becoming known as Alphonse and Gaston. Gingras’ nickname, in fact, is Gaston La Gaffe.


    Included in the deal were Engblom’s defense partner, Rod Langway, 25, who had said he wouldn’t play another season in Montreal because the Canadian and Quebec tax laws and the country’s depressed dollar were making mincemeat of his take-home pay; Doug Jarvis, a peerless defensive center; and Wing Craig Laughlin. Langway was second to Engblom in the plus-minus statistics for defensemen (+66) in 1981-82, and the two of them were acclaimed as the best defensive pair in the NHL. Washington had acquired Instant D.

    In return, the Canadiens got Ryan Walter, 24, a hard-nosed left wing who was the Caps’ second-leading scorer (38 goals, 49 assists) last year and the Washington fans’ most popular player to boot. Montreal hoped that Walter would rejuvenate a fading Guy Lafleur. The Canadiens also received 6’3″, 207-pound Defenseman Rick Green, the first pick in the 1976 draft, who had labored in anonymity in Washington. Still, the feeling around the league was that Montreal’s managing director, Irving Grundman, had had his pocket picked.

    I’m glad to read this. I remember feeling this way clearly when the trade was announced, but on HIO, so many posters laud Rick Green as a big part of the ’86 Cup that it’s almost as if we won it because of the trade, whereas it was in spite of the trade.

    “All I’m trying to do now is buy time,” says Caps General Manager David Poile, a new face himself and the man who put together the trade with Montreal. At 33, Poile is the youngest G.M. in NHL history. “But we’ve got so many new people, we’re not playing as a team.”

    We forget how long David Poile has been in the league.

    Love reading old Sports Illustrated pieces. I has a subscription for a long time, I’d read it cover to cover, even the basketball stuff.

  238. UKRAINIANhab, 18 July, 2014

    ( thank you for the reply regarding the course down below, Much appreciated!!!!!!! )

  239. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    Yeah, but what’s the countdown at?

  240. CJ, 18 July, 2014

    No worries. Check out that forum and let me know. Cheers, CJ

  241. CJ, 18 July, 2014

    If memory serves Lars is July 25, PK is Aug 1.

  242. AndyF, 18 July, 2014

    Is there nowhere that’s safe from hearing the L-name?! Please — let’s make this a refuge for those who are sick and tired of the NBA’s one-player marketing strategy!

  243. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    I’m not sure about that. It may appear that the team “did little”, but the gains might come from a better balance on defence, improvement from Alexei not that he’s playing on the right.

    Losing the captain will smart, but I do think his time was up, and the team will be younger, bigger and keep chugging.

    I don’t think we made any splashy moves, and I don’t think we’re better than the playoff team, losing Tomas Vanek hurts, but the view from outsiders shows that they’re missing how the little moves made a tonne of sense.

  244. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    From Helene St. James’ article in the Detroit Free Press:

    They haven’t improved their scoring capability, and as a group Montreal’s defensemen don’t stack up to Boston’s or Tampa Bay’s.

    I understand how an outsider can scan our lineup on a website and write this, but I think we have a chance to make her and a lot of skeptics eat their words. P.K. and Andrei are excellent, I’m hoping the Tom Gilbert plays a steady heady game and benefits from a winning culture, and that Alexei returns to form and even takes an extra step forward.

    We then have four young defencemen that the out-of-towners don’t know about, but any of who can step up and play a significant role. Jarred Tinordi at 22 should be on the verge of putting things together.

    I’m very optimistic that Nathan Beaulieu will have a great rookie season, I found his attitude at the prospect camp refreshing, and put a lot of hope on the fact that he’s putting in the hours in the gym.

    Greg Pateryn had a surprisingly good season in the AHL, scored a few goals, and has the maturity at 24 that could allow him to play a role if injuries strike, if he doesn’t win a job outright at camp.

    And I know it’s common for us to dismiss Magnus Nygren now, but based on his track record he could have the same effect on our roster that Raphaël Diaz had his first season, stepping in and contributing right away.

    I saw Tampa’s defence corps get embarrassed in the playoffs. I know they signed a couple of free agents, but I’ll put my boys against Radko Gudas any day. And at the risk of annoying some, Zdeno Chara is getting on more on his reputation than his performance nowadays.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  245. Say Ash, 18 July, 2014

    We look pretty bad in comparison, BC and Ontario, look out!

  246. Habitant in Surrey, 18 July, 2014

    Jack Todd on Twitter; “Patrice Brisebois quits the Habs. Reporters trying to convince editors to send them to Paris to get his comments.”


    Petition To Protest Roger’s Blacking Out Of Habs’ Games On RDS West Of Quebec

    Read and sign at;

  247. D Mex, 18 July, 2014

    Betcha’ he checked to see if BG was in town before he did it 😉

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  248. Habitant in Surrey, 18 July, 2014

    I’m fine with Bergevin as GM, —in fact, so far, slap-happy happy !

    Where I have been circumspect are with Martin Lapointe, Sylvain Lefevre and Patrice Brisebois.

    Patrice never struck Me as a ‘psychologically strong’ type of person to be mentoring young prospects. I may be off-base on that as Patrice took a lot of crap from Habs’ Fans over 17-18 years.

    Martin Lapointe I find odd doing His thing out of Chicago, rather a disconnect from the pulse of Montreal in My way of thinking.

    Lefevre, simply by His non-results, so far, in Hamilton.

    Proof-is-in-the-pudding, as they say.

    Very important to replace Gerard Gallant, and think Hal Gill would be ideal. Has He retired as a player yet ?

  249. Habitant in Surrey, 18 July, 2014

    Update on Alex, John (HabsGod) Smidt’s son;

    “We are here at the Alberta children s hospital in Calgary Alex and my wife arrived way ahead of us via plane he s had his MRI already …..He also has as we just found out on top of the bacterial meningitis he has a very very severe sinus infection that has caused the swelling in his brain”

  250. slapshot777, 18 July, 2014

    Hope everything goes well for your little boy and your family John. I will keep you in my prayers.

    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  251. HabFab, 18 July, 2014

    Not a fan of Therrians from all reports. I’m expecting to see Darche in one of those jobs.

  252. HabFab, 18 July, 2014

    Keep up the info flow Chris.

  253. Habitant in Surrey, 18 July, 2014

    I think one of the assistants need to be an ‘Anglo’, as We call ’em ’round dese parts, Frank.

  254. Habitant in Surrey, 18 July, 2014

    Will do Frank.

  255. thebonscott, 18 July, 2014

    My hopes for a speedy recovery go to alex smidt.

  256. Steven, 18 July, 2014

    I find Burrows an odd pick for that LW spot. He’s indisputably Quebec’s best LW, but considering that Toronto’s team has Tavares at LW when he’s a C, I’m pretty sure they could have put a Huberdeau or someone there instead.

  257. THE ABSOLUTE_TRUTH, 18 July, 2014

    He’s one Brave little Boy and I wish him nothing but the very best of everything. You’re in our thougts and prayers Buddy and I hope the Good Lord is Real Kind to you to compensate for all the evil in the World…

  258. Ian Cobb, 18 July, 2014


    Our 8th annual 2014 HIO Fan Summit is, Nov.29th weekend.

    Send today, your self addressed stamped envelope with your money order, so I can send you your tickets back!!! (Canadian stamp) Courier is best! especially from USA! I will be cut off from ordering these special HIO game tickets on the 28th day of July.
    I must receive your money order by the 28th.
    Two seating section prices! $83ea. or $105ea.

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    We are staying at the Novotel hotel, discount rates at 866-861-6112 Tell them you are with HIO to get your discount.

    We will all meet and greet at Hurley’s pub Friday eve. on Crescent St. Some of us will be having supper there. Big screen for Hab’s at Buffalo game for us on the 2nd floor, and name tags will be given out.

    Saturday morning, breakfast is at Chez Cora’s at 8:30am. 1240 Drummond St. You can order a la cart and everyone gets 15% discount off your bill.

    After breakfast we walk over to the Bell Center and Hall of Fame Tours.

    At 3pm the Montreal Canadiens Children’s Foundation charity raffle at the Baton Rouge restaurant 1050 Mountain St.
    Each person is asked to bring one gift item to donate for the charity raffle, so everyone gets a gift to go home with.

    Then our Baton Rouge restaurant pre game dinner. With special guests.

    After dinner we walk across the street to see the Hab’s take on Gionta, Gorges and the Buffalo Sabers.

    After the game the 2nd floor of Hurley’s pub is reserved for us again, to celebrate the win. Just identify yourself as a HIO member.

    Please be generous with your charity raffle gifts and your purchase of raffle tickets. It is a way for the HIO community to give back to less fortunate kids.

    Enjoy talking hockey and meeting your wonderful HIO community at this years Summit.

  259. goaliehabsfan, 18 July, 2014

    Agree with you on the defence, but I would also wouldn’t mind seeing the Habs sign del zotto to a one year deal. He’s still available as a ufa, and would provide depth for when injuries inevitably occur, and we won’t be forced to rely on 2 rookies on the blue line. It also provides insulation against possible regression of NB or Tiny, if they aren’t ready to play every night.

    As for scoring, I think we have upgraded with PAP replacing Gio, and through the natural progression of our young forwards.

  260. kevin, 18 July, 2014

    Thank you for the updates, please keep us posted, our thoughts and prayers are coming from PEI.


  261. kevin, 18 July, 2014

    I would think Hal Gill would make a great assistant coach, was it not he that took PK to task over leaving the Habs jersey on the floor? He knows respect and hasn’t has an easy career.

    Interesting points, Surrey on the other coaching staff, you make some good points.


  262. goaliehabsfan, 18 July, 2014

    I just finished day one of a coaching conference at UBC. Headline speakers included the lighting’s goalie coach, Canucks assistant coach, and Martin Gelinas. Tomorrow is the second day with headliners being Barry Trotz, and Matt Nichol (the reason I’m attending) who is one of the top strength and conditioning coaches when it comes to hockey. Some of his athletes include Mike Cammalleri and Carey Price.

    It was such a thrill getting to spend the day listening to some of the best in the business talk hockey. I learned a lot about some of the finer details of the game, including pk, pp, and d-zone coverage and breakouts, as well as how the pros evaluate players. I’ll try to provide a more detailed summary of the conference in the next couple of days. For those who are interested, here’s a link to the conference website:

  263. Habbergasted, 18 July, 2014

    That seems to happen to alot of Bruins.

  264. CJ, 18 July, 2014

    Welcome back CFL! Red Blacks on the move……

  265. CJ, 18 July, 2014

    Ottawa wins!

  266. ProHabs, 18 July, 2014

    Sounds really interesting. I look forward to reading your summary. I would be interested to hear more about how they evaluate players and what are some of the things they look for.

  267. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    While digging around for stuff on Gaston Gingras, I found this 1982 pre-season projection from Sports Illustrated. Great stuff. It’s still a 21 team league, with 16 making it into the playoffs. The Red Wings are a sad-sack franchise, who they say has been bought by “Mike Hitch”. That’s right, they got Mike Ilitch’s name wrong. They mention Guy Lafleur’s holdout for a renegotiated contract, after a 27-goal season. So many cool names, blasts from the pasts… Who remembers Willi Plett? Rocky Trottier? Morris Lukowich?

    The only constant is that the Leafs are “bereft of quality”, with their only hope Gary Nylund, a high-first round draft pick defenceman with oodles of promise who’ll single-handedly turn the franchise around, like Carlo Colaiacovo, Drake Berehowsky, Luke Schenn, Morgan Rielly, …

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  268. dr. schmutzdeker, 18 July, 2014


  269. ProHabs, 18 July, 2014

    WHy in the world would you be looking stuff up about Gaston Gingras.

  270. Un Canadien errant, 18 July, 2014

    Marc Bergevin said he’s okay with potentially taking a step back in the standings this season, and I think part of that has to be to roll with Jarred and Nathan on the left side, give them more icetime. Those two are eligible for waivers for the 2015 season. So Michael del Zotto is not a bad player, I’d take him on a one-year deal, but not in our situation. I think we’re set on defence.

  271. Timo, 19 July, 2014

    Habsgod – thoughts and prayers for your boy tonight. Calgary Children’s is a great hospital… I am sure they will help him.

  272. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    Morris Lukowich, great goal scorer for the WHA Jets, remember well getting his autograph after games at Wpg arena. He was a stud player for those Jets teams, reminded me of Bobby Clarke.

  273. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    Thanks Chris, prayers continue.

  274. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    So that makes a BS story of an acronym true? Thank goodness hockey is pure as the driven snow, nary a scandal, never a coach taking advantage of kids……. I feel so much better knowing hockey is perfect in comparison to other sports. I will never golf again, I feel dirty for having loved it since I took it up as a 24 year old.

  275. JohnBellyful, 19 July, 2014

    Why, why, WHY did I stay up to watch the Ticats lose – AGAIN!

  276. No.4isNo.1, 19 July, 2014

    Thanks for the update. Our thoughts and prayers are with John and his family.

    Better times are ahead

  277. Da Hema, 19 July, 2014

    He had a bullet of a shot. I remember one game how much I cursed him when he hit Mats Naslund on the ankle during a power play. I thought he broke Mats’ ankle for sure. Gingras was essentially a power play specialist, a luxury the Habs could afford at that time with all the great defencemen they had on those 1980s teams.

  278. Habitant in Surrey, 19 July, 2014

    Update 3 on Alex Smidt; from Rhonda Thompson, who I assume is the sister-in-law ? of John (HabsGod).

    “Status update ….Alex is VERY sick ! He has bacterial meningitis and severe sinus infection that requires surgery tonight to drain it and …we have now found out he has a blood clot in the main vessel in the front of his brain ! :( …he has a team of about 10 doctors watching and taking very good care of him !!! ….Mary-lou Thompson and John (HabsGod) Smidt are very scared and worried along with all of our family and friends !!! Please keep the prayers coming !!!”

  279. BJ, 19 July, 2014

    Hang in there Alex and Family. A continued flow of positive Light sent your way.

  280. Mavid ®, 19 July, 2014

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  281. Mavid ®, 19 July, 2014

    Sorry I am slipping ..82

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  282. Habfan10912, 19 July, 2014

    Good morning all. An interesting look at hit differential.

  283. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    Keep fighting Alex! You are such a brave little boy. We are standing behind you son. My family is praying for you. Our best wishes, CJ and family

  284. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014

    One of your many fine posts. Spoke from the heart. Simplicity and Conviction.

  285. Old Bald Bird, 19 July, 2014

    Some have speculated that he could be a candidate for Brisebois’ job.

  286. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014

    The grit of Flin Flon Clarke, but Morris was a clean player. Brother Ed was a Brier champion.

  287. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014


  288. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014

    Soft Danish getter harder with age.

  289. Hobie, 19 July, 2014

    Patrice Breisbois has put in some heavy minutes while wearing the CH and has earned the right to do whatever he pleases without it affecting his reputation.

    The guy demonstrated an unbelievable amount of courage when he elected to resign with Canadiens after being in Colorado for a short period of time.

    You’d think after 15 years of being booed and attacked by the fans and media that he’d never want to play in Montreal again? I guess he only paid attention to the good things and blocked out all the people who made him a scapegoat.

    I can personally say that I’ve never joined in a massive chorus of boos at the Forum or the Centre Bell like the ones I routinely witnessed against Briesbois. It was terrible and you could clearly see it was disturbing Briesbois. Ugly point in time back then.

    I wish him all the best!

    PS, I loved it when Bob Gainey told all the fans that were booing Briesbois in certain sections of the Centre Bell to stay home and that they’re not welcome in the building. The booing ended the next day. What a guy!

  290. Loop_Garoo, 19 July, 2014

    There is no question at all that Breisbois got caught sleeping out there from time to time, and once in a while looked really bad, but I think he often took the brunt of fans frustration with the team. It was great to see him come back after Colorado, as the only player left from the “93 cup.

    Over 1000 NHL games played, points in 40% of his games as a defense man, and 6th all time in habs d-men for points in a habs uniform, and despite all the booing, still came back to help later. The guy has my full respect and personally I think it is time we started showing some appreciation as fans.

  291. Cal, 19 July, 2014

    The booing began with the (at the time) BIG contract and coincided with a lot of gaffes, like skating backwards and falling down as the opposing forwards breezed by him. That contract is what did him in (with some fans).
    His best season was with the Avs, getting 38 points.
    I remember him for being weak around the net and being unable to move anyone who planted themselves, no matter how small. I always thought he would have been a better winger.

  292. Cal, 19 July, 2014

    In a game where the puck changes hands over 500 times, I am not into this puck “possession” stuff. Carrying the puck to center and dumping it in would show positively in this respect. What those numbers do show Gally is taking a beating. I wonder how long before he breaks down, tough as nails or not?

  293. JohnBellyful, 19 July, 2014

    Good morning, Jim.
    You might — then again, might not — be interested to know that I am currently working on a system of metrics to add to the collection of statistical evidence that will assist in acquiring a more nuanced understanding of a player’s performance.
    It’s a labour of love.
    Here are the areas I will be looking at this season:
    — The number of times a goaltender drops to his knees multiplied by the length of time he remains in that position divided by the number of goals he allows
    — the height, weight and wingspan differential between players taking faceoffs related to degree of success, such that it can be said, for example, a player who weighs five pounds more, is two inches taller and has a three inch advantage from the tip of one outstretched hand to the other is 13.7 per cent more likely to win a faceoff
    — the number of posts hit for every 50 shots taken
    — the percentage of puck battles won along the boards with regard to the ethnicity of the combatants
    — a running total of the number of sticks broken by a player, distinguishing between those that were his and those that were others’.
    — ratio between helmet size and assists (category 1), and between jockstrap dimensions and fighting majors (category 2)
    — a breakdown of each player’s penalty total, based on where committed (offensive zone, defensive zone, neutral zone, in the stands)
    — a graphic display showing the preferred angle of a player’s passes (a lateral pass being zero degrees, a pass straight ahead being 90 degrees, a pass to a player slightly off to the left being 115 degrees, and so on)
    — similarly, a visual representation of where a player’s pass is likely to be received by the intended target (eg, tape on stick, in his feet, just behind his skates, off his head)
    — total distance covered over the course of a season to acknowledge fans’ applause after being named a star
    Further, I will be recommending that the National Hockey League install GPS units in pucks and skates, so accurate data can be obtained on where players are exactlypositioned when the puck crosses the goal line.
    Let me make clear what the goal of all this effort is: a unified theory of hockey analysis that will provide a full measure of a player’s worth not open to dispute.
    As I always say, the more informed a fan is the more he will enjoy reading the game stats afterwards.

  294. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    I’ll never forget Breezer’s hit on Tucker. It’s on youtube if someone could link it up. One of the most devastating hits I’ve ever seen.

  295. Cal, 19 July, 2014

    This “unified theory” of yours has been the Holy Grail of physicists for years. To think it can be solved through hockey analysis by a stats geek! Amazing!

  296. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014

    How ’bout them ‘Cats?

  297. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    What would be an appropriate name for these stats, corwick? Or something simple like, “did u even play hockey!” Stats.

  298. Cal, 19 July, 2014

    I think this:
    trumps that

  299. JohnBellyful, 19 July, 2014

    Toothless. Clawless. Winless.
    It’s getting so I couldn’t care less about the team.

  300. JohnBellyful, 19 July, 2014

    There is still the small matter of compiling and interpreting the numbers, Cal, but I think you’ll agree, the hard slogging’s been done.

  301. JohnBellyful, 19 July, 2014

    DUEPH would be an apt moniker for these stats in the aggregate (sorry, being a numbers freak, I sometimes slip into jargon).
    Alternatively, if DUEPH is more likely to raise eyebrows than awareness, I would suggest christening this new field of study, Mumbo Jumbo.
    Edit: DUEPH, not DUEPL. What was I even typing? What a DUEPHus!

  302. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    Thank you for sharing. Frankie also did a number on Tucker over the years…..

    It never gets old watching those clips.

  303. No.4isNo.1, 19 July, 2014

    Our prayers are with you, keep the faith and fight the good fight Alex

    Better times are ahead

  304. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014

    Great JB, Burly.
    Debate over need for goons: Rumble Mumbo Jumbo.
    Giveaway stats: Fumble Mumbo Jumbo.
    Seldom heard: Humble Mumbo Jumbo.
    The Big Picture: Jumbo Mumbo Jumbo.
    How ’bout them Bombers? (full disclosure: go Esks’)

  305. Loop_Garoo, 19 July, 2014

    Deleted duplicate content

  306. yathehabsrule, 19 July, 2014

    As a team, I find it quite interesting and it has some very good merits.

    Isolating Corsi/Fenwick by individual I am less of a fan.


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  307. Loop_Garoo, 19 July, 2014

    There were some serious mis-cues, no question about it, and he had some big flaws, but I always believed he loved playing for the habs, and at the very least, gave it his all every night.

  308. yathehabsrule, 19 July, 2014

    “did you even play hockey?!” I think that’s something that many would ask Berkshire.


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  309. Loop_Garoo, 19 July, 2014

    I missed your link and just posted that too! so needless to say I agree. Darcy Tucker is a bit of an anomaly for me, probably the only former hab that I truly despise. Always struck me as a true dirty little weasel. Brad Marchand oozes class and respect compared to him.

  310. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014

    I join everyone in pulling hard for your dear litte one. Praying hard too.

  311. JohnBellyful, 19 July, 2014

    Foolish talk of Eskimos winning Grey Cup: Dumbo Mumbo Jumbo
    (spits on ground)

  312. frontenac1, 19 July, 2014

    Race horses run better when they take a dump before a race.Do players who take a dump before the game score more goals than those that don’t? Is there a stat on that?

  313. habstrinifan, 19 July, 2014

    Looking forward to your summary. Particularly curious as to how Martin Gelinas comes across as an ‘instructor’.

    I have always been intrigued by his career.I ran across this article on him a short time ago.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  314. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014

    Gumbo Mumbo Jumbo

  315. HabFab, 19 July, 2014

    Looking at the Salary Cap and LTIR. Are there any other “permanent” players on it, other then Pronger with Philly, Savard with Boston and Ohlund with Tampa? Anyone…

  316. JohnBellyful, 19 July, 2014

    Yes, I believe dumps are compiled.

  317. frontenac1, 19 July, 2014

    Hola amigos! I wonder if Coco would come back to help with player development? He knows the game inside out and with 11 Cup Rings, the kids would listen. Saludos!

  318. habstrinifan, 19 July, 2014

    You are showing the conviction of a Dad who will will his son thru this HabsGod. Please allow me the privilege of having my prayers and hope stand alongside you and your family.

    May God’s Grace be its most powerful in that room in Calgary.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  319. frontenac1, 19 July, 2014

    Hey Cal. I remember Breezer driving me nuts with his bone head plays and pylon breeze by”s. Then I heard he was battling depression and was on medication and I wasn’t mad at him anymore. Pretty sad actually. I wish him all the best with his family.

  320. HabFab, 19 July, 2014

    That sounds like a sh!tty job!

  321. habstrinifan, 19 July, 2014

    Forgive this awkward moment but for some strange reason I cant escape my grandmother’s memory and her most elemental prayer.

    So to Alex in Calgary “May God’s Grace hot up your room today child”.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  322. JohnBellyful, 19 July, 2014

    Numbers guys will tell you, keeping stacks can be a dirty business.

  323. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    Perhaps if Philly can’t trade Vinny he develops a mystery long term injury, after a visit with Hextall.

  324. SmartDog, 19 July, 2014

    What’s the over-under on PK signing before arbitration?

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  325. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    Rory, Wow!

  326. Strummer, 19 July, 2014

    I think if the Habs farm team were located in FLA they may have a chance with Coco.

    That being said he may get tired of the nice winter weather down there and pop back to the Great White North occasionally

    “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

  327. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014

    At first I thought Rory Fitzpatrick is on the LTIR? Then, oh yeah, Burly likes German golfers (wink). Better golf and bachelorhood….coincidence?

  328. SmartDog, 19 July, 2014

    Has anyone else been able to login, but inexplicably unable to have their posts show up? Happened to me the last week.

    Does this mean you are banana’d? Or is that just a glitch?

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  329. Strummer, 19 July, 2014

    Are you sure you weren’t confusing him with Patrick FitzRory?

    “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

  330. SmartDog, 19 July, 2014

    Coco the monkey? Coco Chanel?

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  331. Lafleurguy, 19 July, 2014

    Coco Laboy.

  332. Corporate, 19 July, 2014

    Prayers are with you!

  333. Ian Cobb, 19 July, 2014

    It happened to me as well, all day yesterday. I had to change my password etc. and call the Gazette! OK THIS MORNING!

    Hey Dog ! Your back! Does this mean we will see you at the Summit my friend?

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  334. Strummer, 19 July, 2014

    I thought you knew your poop

    “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

  335. third generation haber, 19 July, 2014

    Great pod-cast on Montreal Hockey Talk regarding DD. Connor McKenna gives a great analysis of the glut at center situation.

    These guys actually like DD (they like all small players), but argue he should be traded. Their argument is that the team is mortgaging too much of the team to shelter and develop DD (top-wingers, PP time, no Pk time, and no defensive face-offs).

    They point-out that DD is far worse statistically without Pacioretty, but that Pacioretty’s points don’t drop at all without DD. They also point-out that all cup winners in the cap-era have a top 6 that dominate over 200 feet of ice, but DD is weak outside of the offensive zone.

    They point-out that DD is a hard-worker and a good player who would be well suited to the 3rd line.

    Pleks, statistically, plays some of the toughest minutes in the entire NHL. DD could not handle the 200 foot game and defensive responsibilities Pleks handles.

    Essentially, they conclude that the team can’t take the next step with DD in their top 6. Galchenyuk needs to move to center. And, we need to realize that DD does have some market value, probably in a packaged trade. Ennis, who is less established, just signed a much bigger deal with the Sabres.

    They conclude that the trade won’t happen because of a lack of local talent on the habs. If Paranteau, on the other-hand, lights it up this year, it may open the door for dealing DD.

    They also point out that DD, being very small, gets fouled and pushed off the puck and gets little support from the reffs. Essentially, his ceiling is too low.

    We’ve bitten the bullet by letting Gionta go, and traded Gorges (Still hurts), obviously we’re getting serious about becoming a contender, so maybe it’s time to look at the facts and trade DD.

    PS, I’m a DD fan, but I’m a bigger fan of winning the Stanley Cup.

    j.p. murray

  336. Ian Cobb, 19 July, 2014

    Received 75 money orders so far! Don’t be late and miss out friends!

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  337. AH, 19 July, 2014

    The British Open is over.

    McIlroy is on , and when he is on, he does nothing but fire off round after round in the 60’s, and leave the rest of the field in the dust. As I write this, he just hit his drive on 18 340 yards on a rope!

    You can’t beat that.

    He plays golf and wins majors the way Tiger used to do it, ( only with much better driving of the golf ball).

  338. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    Eagles on 16 and 18 placed an exclamation point beside his name on the leaderboard. He’s playing a different game right now. His driving average this week was over 330 yards going into today. It might have even increased.

    What an exceptional player!

  339. AH, 19 July, 2014

    Totally agree, no way the Habs win a cup with that stump as their “1st line” center, and if they do it would be a miracle.

  340. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    Pronger retired. As a result, Philly carries his cap hit. If he would have stayed on LTIR they would have been exempt.

  341. HabFab, 19 July, 2014

    According to this article, he hasn’t officially retired to protect the Flyers Salary Cap;

  342. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    I didn’t take the time to listen to the podcast, but I would agree that we won’t win with DD and Pleks as our 1-2. Pleks is a number 2 on a good team, but is a number 3 on a great team. Further, he’s not going to get better. As Eller, PK and Bourque turned their season around in the playoffs, my memory of Pleks, especially in round three, was disappointing. That said, the fault might be mine. My expectations should be lowered. Pleks is not going to net 70 points. He’s a good regular season performer, and an average post season player. He’s enjoyed good series – most notably in shutting down Crosby and the Penguins. Too often however, he’s unnoticeable.

    You trade for futures, not past performances. Pleks will never be worth more. If you could move him, as part of a package for a true number 1 (Eric Stall), than of course it makes the club younger, bigger and better. Of course, that’s a pipe dream. I can’t imagine him waiving his NTC, something he negotiated for.

  343. Ian Cobb, 19 July, 2014


    Our 8th annual 2014 HIO Fan Summit is, Nov.29th weekend.

    Send today, your self addressed stamped envelope with your money order, so I can send you your tickets back!!! (Canadian stamp) Courier is best! especially from USA! I will be cut off from ordering these special HIO game tickets on the 28th day of July.
    I must receive your money order by the 28th.
    Two seating section prices! $83ea. or $105ea.

    Send to me Ian Cobb at 63 Village Dr. Belleville Ont. K8P 4K2

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    We are staying at the Novotel hotel, discount rates at 866-861-6112 Tell them you are with HIO to get your discount.

    We will all meet and greet at Hurley’s pub Friday eve. on Crescent St. Some of us will be having supper there. Big screen for Hab’s at Buffalo game for us on the 2nd floor, and name tags will be given out.

    Saturday morning, breakfast is at Chez Cora’s at 8:30am. 1240 Drummond St. You can order a la cart and everyone gets 15% discount off your bill.

    After breakfast we walk over to the Bell Center and Hall of Fame Tours.

    At 3pm the Montreal Canadiens Children’s Foundation charity raffle at the Baton Rouge restaurant 1050 Mountain St.
    Each person is asked to bring one gift item to donate for the charity raffle, so everyone gets a gift to go home with.

    Then our Baton Rouge restaurant pre game dinner. With special guests.

    After dinner we walk across the street to see the Hab’s take on Gionta, Gorges and the Buffalo Sabers.

    After the game the 2nd floor of Hurley’s pub is reserved for us again, to celebrate the win. Just identify yourself as a HIO member.

    Please be generous with your charity raffle gifts and your purchase of raffle tickets. It is a way for the HIO community to give back to less fortunate kids.

    Enjoy talking hockey and meeting your wonderful HIO community at this years Summit.

  344. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    I stand corrected. I was certain that there was a release indicating he was retired. Of course, he will never play again, but by not officially retiring he protects the Flyers. On an aside, he’s signed for another three years….. Wowzers.

    Of course if something happened to Markov, I’d want him to do the same thing to protect the organization, even if it is sneaky. Might this be an unwritten rule, or gentleman’s agreement among the owners? Clearly Pronger will never play again. He can’t jog, ride an exercise bike, skate or even watch a game without discomfort.

  345. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    Looking forward to seeing you Wednesday Ian.

    Cheers, CJ

  346. DDO_Habs_Fan, 19 July, 2014

    The number one reason MB says the Habs are still far away is because of the center position situation. I believe they can win with DD but because he is weak defensively, the team has to compensate elsewhere with more depth. This means that the 3rd and 4th lines need to be two 3rd lines. I have no problem playing DD with scoring wingers and sending them out on PPs and offensive zone face-offs.

    On a side note, I wish the Habs make a play for O’Reilly. He would instantly give them credibility down the middle and form a good duo with Chucky for years to come. Heck, he would probably become the team captain too.

  347. Clay, 19 July, 2014

    Nice. I hope the lad will be OK.

    ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

  348. HardHabits, 19 July, 2014

    Touche. And ouch!!

  349. HardHabits, 19 July, 2014

    Where can we find stats on Ice Cream Puck possession?

  350. DDO_Habs_Fan, 19 July, 2014

    My criteria for the next assistant coach:
    1) former player
    2) actual coaching experience with some expertise

    Kevin Dineen in Chicago was a good move. Even though it won’t happen, would love to see the Habs get Adam Oates for special teams.

  351. Ian Cobb, 19 July, 2014

    This was sent to me in June from the Hab’s.
    I deleted name and phone # at the bottom>

    Ian Cobb
    June 5, 2014 at 6:43 pm

    Dear Ian,

    On behalf of the Canadiens organization, I would like to thank you for your support throughout this past season.

    The commitment and the efforts you have made to gather HIO supporters to the Bell Centre have helped to create an exciting atmosphere during each of the Montreal Canadiens games. We had an exciting season followed by a great playoff run. We hope to maintain that momentum next season.

    In mid-July you will receive our official calendar for the 2014-15 season, as well as detailed information concerning group sales and ice rental programs. All details will also be available on our website at

    I would like to take this opportunity to wish you and your Hockey Inside Out members an excellent summer and we look forward to seeing you next season.

    Until then, please do not hesitate to communicate with us should you have any questions.


    Director – Group Sales and Ice Rentals
    The Montreal Canadiens
    Summit game tickets, News, Pictures and comments

  352. Chris, 19 July, 2014

    Oates does not strike me as a good assistant coach…he took a pretty hard line with many of the Capitals players, and he was not well liked as a result. In some respects, he is a bit too similar to Therrien, and a coaching staff probably shouldn’t feature two guys like that.

  353. DDO_Habs_Fan, 19 July, 2014

    I suspect he did not act the same way as a head coach as he did as an assistant coach. I rather see what the Devils players say who went to the Stanley Cup finals with him rather than Capitals players. Good luck Trotz…LOL.

  354. Chris, 19 July, 2014

    I can’t buy the logic that Plekanec would only be the #3 centreman on a great NHL team.

    If Plekanec had played for the Chicago Blackhawks last season, he easily would have been a better option as the #2 centre than Michal Handzus or Andrew Shaw were.

    If Plekanec had played for St. Louis, he would have looked just as good in that #2 slot as Alex Steen, Vladimir Sobotka, Derek Roy or Patrik Berglund.

    I think you are being a bit guilty of giving the LA Kings’ centre depth to every NHL powerhouse team. This ignores the fact that the Kings were in fact pretty unique in that regard, with Kopitar/Carter/Stoll/Richards down the middle. The other teams that have elite top-6 centres are Pittsburgh (Crosby/Malkin), Boston (Krejci/Bergeron), Anaheim (Getzlaf/Perry), and perhaps Dallas (Seguin/Spezza).

    Plekanec would be the #2 centre on an awful lot of teams in the NHL. You could make an argument that he would fit that role better than Malkin in Pittsburgh even while conceding that Malkin is a far, far superior player offensively.

    He would also be the #1 centre, if given more offensive freedom, on a lot of NHL teams. Plekanec finished with 43 points last season, a pretty off-year for him. But it is important to note that Plekanec didn’t see nearly the power play time that he usually has, and most of it came on the second wave. It isn’t a coincidence that the power play went south around January 1st, when Plekanec’s first-wave status was basically eliminated as the team went with Desharnais more and more.

    Plekanec is a 50-60 point centre with gusts to 70 points. He plays good defensive hockey. That is a top-6 guy on all but a couple of teams in the NHL.

  355. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014


  356. Ian Cobb, 19 July, 2014

    Starting point is—Must have won a cup! to coach Hab’s

  357. Chris, 19 July, 2014

    Good point. And he did have some success with Tampa Bay too.

  358. Puck Bard, 19 July, 2014

    I never get tired of that.

  359. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    So far as I’m concerned there are only a few great teams. The rest have at least one glaring deficiency. I don’t think it’s a gust so much as a tornado required to elevate him to 70 points, a barrier he’s crossed once in his career (note, he did have 69 points additionally), five years ago.

    Maybe Pleks blows me away and he is a 50-60 point guy next season. IMO, he’s turning into a checking centre, who will begin to see more time on the third line. If Eller could develop some consistency and build on his playoff success, he could develop into our second line centre. Pleks would be a great third liner. Sorry Chris, but any team who has Pleks as their number one is very likely not going to make the playoffs. I could also say that Emelin is a top 2 defenceman on some teams, but that’s an indictment on the team, and not reflective of the player.

    Lastly, with very few exceptions, players at 32 (will be 32 in the first month of the season), don’t start to get better. We need to start succession planning. Pleks has two more years remaining on his contract. At 34, are we going to want to sign him to an extension? If the answer is no, we might want to consider our options.

    In any event, just my two cents…..

    Cheers, CJ

  360. habstrinifan, 19 July, 2014

    Why did you have to call him a stump?

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  361. Bob_Sacamano, 19 July, 2014

    Question of the day: How many players named Staal does this league still need to stop people spelling them Stall?

  362. Chris, 19 July, 2014

    I’m not disagreeing with everything you say. But Chicago is widely trotted out as one of the top 2 or top 3 teams in the NHL, and Plekanec would easily have been an upgrade on Handzus as their second line centre. I would say that he is the equal of Brad Richards, who was just brought in to play that role.

    I agree that Plekanec should not be the #1 centre on a team that is going to win the Stanley Cup. I just think it is unrealistic to expect every contender to have a better #2 centre than Plekanec.

    As for the 70 point thing, throw Plekanec between Hossa and Sharp and I’ll be you he gets 70 points easily.

    Put him on the second line with Patrick Kane, and he still gets 70 points. It is a lot easier to accumulate points as a centre when you have an elite goal-scoring winger or two on your wing. Plekanec showed he could do it when he had that winger in the shape of Alex Kovalev or a poor man’s version of an elite winger in Mike Cammalleri.

  363. Habs4LifeInTO, 19 July, 2014

    Nailed it JP! Great post.

    I also agree with the big picture statement that the Habs are getting serious now which is very good news for us Habs fans!We’ll see how badly they want to win the Cup very soon, me thinks….

    24 cups and counting….

  364. DipsyDoodler, 19 July, 2014

    I know we’ve debated the merits of various sports but I’d like to make the case for Fox Hunting.

    1. There’s no complaining to the refs. There are no refs. Just the dead fox at your feet, it’s steaming entrails strewn on the ground.

    2. Only the very best people participate. It is literally the sport of kings. And aristocrats.

    3. The most modern bit of technology is the dog, and that is a few hundred years old.

    Moving. Forward.

  365. johnnylarue, 19 July, 2014

    Small-mindedness. (Pun intended.)

  366. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    Makes me wonder just what the Fox says…..

  367. habstrinifan, 19 July, 2014

    Hi CJ,
    Just in case Ian is swamped with pkgs and find the pkg I send him confusing..can you help with a reminder.

    Pkg from hanstrinifan contaiins 1 money order for two MEMBERS … one pair of 105.00 tkts each for the two self-addressed stamp envelopes included.
    Thk YOU!
    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  368. eric, 19 July, 2014

    All those coaches are taken

  369. Steven, 19 July, 2014

    I think people would still misspell it even if there were a hundred of them. Too set in their spelling ways. The prime example of this is all the people on this site who still write “Sharpe” instead of “Sharp”

  370. habstrinifan, 19 July, 2014

    Her Majesty is not amused! I have never heard this song. Cool! Think I’ll get it for my schoolbus!

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  371. UKRAINIANhab, 19 July, 2014

    Another major won after the third day, terrible year for golf Majors Terrible!!!!!! And I think Sawgrass is a better tournament than the PGA championship! Anyways…

    Ok, I think DD is a 3rd line centre on 75% percent of teams in the NHL. The only team pleks would be a #3 on would probably be LA (off the top of my head). He put up 20 goals playing with Gionta!

  372. Habitant in Surrey, 19 July, 2014

    Update Number 4 for Alex Smidt, son of John (HabsGod) Smidt

    per John Smidt via Facebook:

    “Hi guys Alex had surgery last night at midnight he got out of surgery at 2am he’s in the ICU.

    He’s still not out of the woods yet he has a blood clot in his brain that they are monitoring.

    I will tell Alex about how very very special HIO is and how all you guys send your love and prayers. I’m going to tell him about how very special Ian Cobb is and what Ian did for him when he awakes! I thank all of u guys so very very much for all the support and love for Alex, myself and my family HIO means the world to me you guys are all very very special and hold a special place in my heart for what you guys did for my little boy! That s why being a Habs fan is the best it’s one big family I love all u guys, thank you everyone for your thoughts prayers, a very very special and heartfelt thank you to Ian Cobb your an amazing man Ian! We are looking so forward to the HIO Summit Alex will be very very thrilled! God speed guys I love all u.

    John Smidt (Habsgod) Regina, Sask “

  373. Luke, 19 July, 2014


  374. DDO_Habs_Fan, 19 July, 2014


  375. Strummer, 19 July, 2014

    Gorges Georges what’s all the fuss?

    I know what you mean. I can’t believe how people mis-spell the following


    “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

  376. Strummer, 19 July, 2014

    You try and coach a team with Ovie (who is also best buds with the owner).
    Tough assignment and not a good indicator of his capabilities
    “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

  377. marlboro, 19 July, 2014

    While I don’t post often, I check in daily.
    To Habsgod, and your son Alex. I want you to know my deepest thoughts and prayers are with your family. From our family to yours!

  378. DDO_Habs_Fan, 19 July, 2014

    Chicago would take Pleks tomorrow and they are the 2nd best team in the league. Unless the Habs believe Eller and Malhotra can fill in for Pleks’ defensive responsibilities, I can not see him getting traded. Maybe having Chucky play with him and learn the center position is not a bad thing after all.

  379. Habfan10912, 19 July, 2014

    Chris – Thanks for providing these updates. A lot of people have young Alex in their thoughts and prayers. HIO is made up of some wonderful people.

  380. scamorza, 19 July, 2014

    Let them know we look forward to seeing them in November . God bless

    come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  381. Commandant, 19 July, 2014

    A look at the Bruins Cap Issues, and why they will need to make some cost cutting moves.

    Go Habs Go!

  382. piper, 19 July, 2014

    Maybe Chucky could play centre and learn the centre position.

  383. Ian Cobb, 19 July, 2014

    I am never confused my friend.
    I will put 4 tickets in 1 envelope and a Popsicle in the other! I got it!

    You should just see what e-mails I have to answer! The questions are so insane! 52 e-mails since yesterday answering stuff that is on the notice from me. I have posted the information far to many times, and they still ask! Hab Fans! SCAREY!

  384. DipsyDoodler, 19 July, 2014

    Great video! Thanks for sharing it.

    Moving. Forward.

  385. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    You’re probably right. I didn’t see any kind of chemistry with Vanek though. Again, I’m likely going to be proven wrong, but my point is Pleks is going to be more of a defensive specialist than a point producer on the back nine of his career. If he nets 70 points this year, nobody will be more surprised than me.

    In any event, I’m hoping he succeeds. If we hope to take a step forward, we need our best players to be our best players, especially in the post season when it matters most.

  386. PK, 19 July, 2014

    Hey Dipsy,
    I like your thoughts about Fox Hunting. However, you do have to have the appropriate bloodlines ….

    For the rest of us, how about Darts?

    You get to throw sharp, pointy objects at a dartboard (with a Bruins logo on it, if you like). In between each round, you push back pints of beer, all in a pub atmosphere. This must be a sport because there are championships and trophies … plus money. :)
    >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

    – Nostradamus, 1552

  387. CH Marshall, 19 July, 2014

    OReilly would be an awesome target. Though I think right now our numéro uno question is PK Subban.

  388. Habitant in Surrey, 19 July, 2014

    Alex Smidt Update 5: and some positive news.

    HIS; “Awaiting his progress and prognosis. Tell Alex ‘Go Habs Go !!!”

    John (HabsGod) Smidt; “Alex is progressing slowly ……. The doctor(s) said his surgery was good and a sucess, they will now be looking at the blood clot in his head, but he’s not out of the woods yet, as he’s still in ICU, but they think he’ll recover”

  389. PK, 19 July, 2014

    Thanks for the updates, HiS.
    Good luck to Alex and his parents.

    >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

    – Nostradamus, 1552

  390. Say Ash, 19 July, 2014

    West Islanders, assemble! Is there a Canadiens store near Fairview? The one in the shopping centre is no longer there.

  391. Chris, 19 July, 2014

    I will also be in shock if Plekanec gets 70 points this season, but less because of any concerns on his part. Montreal has one winger capable of helping a centre getting to 70 points, Max Pacioretty, and that winger is not on Plekanec’s line.

  392. ABHabsfan, 19 July, 2014

    I would love to see the Habs get ahold of Reilly Smith. But other than an offer sheet, it would seem unlikely that the B’s would trade him to the Habs. The offer sheet is not something any GM’s want to employ either, but I can’t see how the Bruins get Smith and/or Krug signed. If Marc Savard were to announce his retirement, now that would really put the Bruins up a certain creek, wouldn’t it?

    “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
    Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

  393. chilli, 19 July, 2014

    The Habs brass, along with knowledgeable Habs fans, know this team is not winning a cup with DD and Pleks as our 1-2 – along with the current makeup of our team. We will be competitive and with the right momentum (and match-ups) can make some noise in the playoffs like last year.
    Without a stellar CP along with a few posts/crossbars and boneheaded Bruins – we lose that series more often than win.
    We are 2 or 3 years away from having a great team. When Larsy turns into Carbo, Gally27 into LaFleur, PK into the greatest ever and Tinordi/Beaulieu into our 2/3 after PK, then we will be ready.

    3 years folks. But enjoy some good competitive hockey until we can match up against the powers in the west.

    But don’t go thinking after last years playoff run that we guarantee a return. The team had a great run and is still building.

    You really think Kopi and his Kings would ever worry about DD and Pleks?


  394. UKRAINIANhab, 19 July, 2014

    HiS… Please keep these updates coming through on here! I am thinking of Alex and his family

  395. nickster13, 19 July, 2014

    In fairview, go to the sports experts, theres usually a very decent collection of stuff there. If you want jerseys, go downstairs to the hat/jersey store I think is called capsule sportive or something along those lines.
    Other than those places, not too much else with quality merch in the WI.

    “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the Rocket!”

  396. D Mex, 19 July, 2014

    Try also Hockey Experts and Sports Rousseau

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

  397. HabFab, 19 July, 2014

    Keep up the good work Alex!
    And you too Chris!
    John and family, keep the faith brother…

  398. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014

    I dont think Alllan Muir is a Canadiens fan:

    Montreal Canadiens stuck in neutral

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  399. UKRAINIANhab, 19 July, 2014

    No but they would worry about scoring on Price.

  400. UKRAINIANhab, 19 July, 2014


  401. DipsyDoodler, 19 July, 2014

    This is going to sound harsh, but that is the most illiterate bit of writing on sports I’ve ever read. (Meant as helpful criticism.)

    Moving. Forward.

  402. DipsyDoodler, 19 July, 2014

    You people who never tire of typing out that you can’t win with Desharnais and Plekanec, what was that against Boston? Was that not a win? You know that time when we beat the odds-on Stanley Cup favourites? Doesn’t that count as winning?

    Moving. Forward.

  403. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014

    A good overview of the Kevin Hayes situation. Montréal is listed as a possible destination for him.

    And more:

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  404. DipsyDoodler, 19 July, 2014

    I don’t know if he’s a fan, but it’s hard to argue with what he says.

    Moving. Forward.

  405. UKRAINIANhab, 19 July, 2014

    Yeah. Enough…

    How does someone know we will never win, with them…

  406. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014

    Yeah, it’s the headline that’s a little more negative than the article itself, it’s what I reacted to at first. I should remember that he may not have written the headline, the editors of the site may be the culprits.

    When I think of teams stuck in neutral this summer, I think of the Leafs, the Bruins who were caught too close to the cap ceiling, the Oilers who are spinning their wheels, talking big about the need to clear out guys like Ales Hemsky and Sam Gagner, the diving right back into that pool with a ludicrous contract for Benoit Pouliot.

    The Canucks too are kind of in purgatory. They’re locked in because of the big contracts to their veterans, they can’t quite race to the bottom against the Sabres and Islanders, but won’t get in the playoffs either. And they assured themselves of mediocrity by signing a competent veteran goalie in Ryan Miller, who’ll get them those extra four or five wins and OT losses that will murder their draft position.

    Compared to those teams the Canadiens did well. They cleared out three underperforming veterans, righted the balance on their defence, signed a European UFA, among other forward-thinking moves.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  407. BJ, 19 July, 2014

    More Light from over here. Go Alex and Family.

  408. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014

    Links to articles about how Milan Lucic insists on being a reprobate, along with other good reads.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  409. BJ, 19 July, 2014

    I think the article was written in Hindi and then translated using “Google translate”.

  410. SmartDog, 19 July, 2014

    Sounds awesome were it to happen. But we don’t seem to be high on this list – only mentioned as a destination that might fit, not as a real suitor.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  411. Say Ash, 19 July, 2014

    Thanks guys

  412. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014

    “I’m not going to apologize for how I acted or what was said,” Lucic said. “But at the end of the day, thinking about it now, maybe I definitely could have handled the situation better than I did. But more than saying what I said to the players, I was upset with losing. I was upset with losing to them. We had such a great team that had won the Presidents’ Trophy and that being the end and losing the way that we did, I think it all just accumulated to me losing my cool in the handshake.”

    So he “could have handled the situation better”, and he admits to “losing my cool in the handshake (line).” But he won’t apologoize.

    Classic bully behaviour. Classic Bruin thug behaviour. I acted wrongly, but I don’t feel remorse, and will not make amends.

  413. on2ndthought, 19 July, 2014

    Been gone a while; first things first: all the best to Alex and his loved ones. We are in your corner.

    On Brisebois: I think he gets categorized as a ‘practice player’ , whose mad skills and smarts rarely made it onto the ice surface, especially at crunch time. I always got the impression that he felt pain way more than your standard issue hockey player. Might account for his stressed play on the ice, and depression (which I just heard about from Ian)

    Just to rile up the MOAR bigger crowd: everyone here seems to give the series to LA if we had (or will) play them. Nu huh! It’s played on the ice, and we present a different series of challenges than the NYR. I’m not saying we WOULD beat them, but I’d like to see it, and would love to see those big buses chasing our Mini Coopers!

    EDIT I would rather face LA, STL, SJ, ANA, than face the ‘Hawks. THAT is a complete team.

    “a cannonading drive”

  414. DipsyDoodler, 19 July, 2014

    He almost tries to paint himself as the victim.

    Moving. Forward.

  415. frontenac1, 19 July, 2014

    Go Als Go!!!

  416. Marc10, 19 July, 2014

    I’m glad he’s sticking to his guns and being a complete a-hole. It makes it so much easier to hate his guts and ensures our team and fans are going to do everything in their power to bury his team. Keep it up I say and why not let Brad the Rat and Donuts Julien weigh in while you’re at it.


  417. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014

    Really good overview of the Ryan O’Reilly stalemate in Colorado, and a little on how arbitration works.

  418. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014

    You’re being insensitive. They had such a great team. You can see why he’d facking want to kill someone.

  419. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014

    I love his definitive equivocation: “…maybe I definitely could have handled the situation better…”

    “Honey, you know how much I love you, it’s just sometimes I get so angry…”

  420. Marc10, 19 July, 2014

    He’s not completely wrong. We were always going to transition out of Gio and Gorges at one point. It’s not a bad time to do it. Beaulieu is ready. We’ve got Mike the Dream for one more year. Gilbert slots in as a righty so Yemmy can play his natural side.

    A lot hinges on a health core and a step up for Chucky and Lars. A healthy Prust and Playoff Bourque would really turn this team into a real pain for anyone in the East. I give MB a B. He did what he needed to do… Now it’s up to his players.

  421. DDO_Habs_Fan, 19 July, 2014

    He’s not technically wrong but he’s ignoring the most important role of a GM nowadays: managing the salary cap. The guys that were dumped were not value at their salaries. There is only one reason why Gorges was dealt only for a 2nd rounder…his perceived bad contract amongst GMs. MB did what he had to do to allocate his funds correctly to those who have the most effect on the team’s success (Markov, PK Price, etc.). These moves will allow the Habs to stay competitive and be able to play their younger stars down the road.

  422. piper, 19 July, 2014

    The Habs can play with the Hawks. I think the other big 4 in the west would crush the Habs but it looks like they are now drafting to remedy that.

  423. CH Marshall, 19 July, 2014

    I hope one day we pick him up off waivers and then send him down to the farm

  424. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014

    Topical article on Jordan Subban, in which he discusses trying to get bigger but not too fast, and not wanting to get too ‘bulky’.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  425. Kooch7800, 19 July, 2014

    MB will be well aware of that situation and if there is any chance for the habs he will be all over it. Being in that organization he will know all about this kid.

    I could see the habs getting his rights if chi town is officially done

  426. HabFab, 19 July, 2014

    His home town is Boston Mass so I would say chances are just about nil!

  427. Un Canadien errant, 19 July, 2014


  428. piper, 19 July, 2014

    That was with Eller playing like he was our #1 centre.

  429. fastfreddy, 19 July, 2014

    We haven’t won a thing with them have we?

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  430. Kooch7800, 19 July, 2014

    I don’t think we can grade MB yet until Subban and Eller are under contract and what type of deals they are. Once that is done I think we can start to look at this off season to grade it.

    Next year won’t be any easier

  431. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    Lets hope he continues to progress. Hard not to think about that family a great deal these past two days.

    Thoughts and prayers continue to go out.

    Thanks HiS for passing on these updates.

  432. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    Interesting how this is playing out. I recognize how the Avs have basically said Duchesne is our Bobby Clarke, no one else makes more etc. etc., but O’Reilly is a real unique player, big skilled, defensively incredible, no penalties taken.

    This guy is a real good player and will be a building block for a franchise somewhere, soon.

  433. HabinBurlington, 19 July, 2014

    Pretty funny quip today during a race at Toronto Indy.

  434. CJ, 19 July, 2014

    The series victory against the Bruins was particularly satisfying. It almost seemed to me that the series pitted good vs bad, with the landscape of the NHL at stake. Montreal was full credit for the win, led by their young core, notably Price and Subban. I could not have been happier!

    That said, this was the second round, not the Stanley Cup final. We were only half way towards the ultimate goal. Just goes to show how tough it is to win. What is most concerning was the third round. Sure, losing Price was a major obstacle that impacted the team, despite Tokarski coming in and playing his heart out. But, we lacked a fifth gear when we needed to go to the next level against New York. IMO, we are still a ways away.

    That said, who knows what to expect. If the outcome was decided, there would be no point in watching. Can we win, sure – after all, anything is possible. Unlikely, but possible.

    Cheers, CJ

  435. Ian Cobb, 19 July, 2014


    Our 8th annual 2014 HIO Fan Summit is, Nov.29th weekend.

    Send today, your self addressed stamped envelope with your money order, so I can send you your tickets back!!! (Canadian stamp) Courier is best! especially from USA! I will be cut off from ordering these special HIO game tickets on the 28th day of July.
    I must receive your money order by the 28th.
    Two different summit section prices! $83ea. or $105ea.

    Send to me Ian Cobb at 63 Village Dr. Belleville Ont. K8P 4K2

    Summit game tickets, News, Pictures and comments

    We are staying at the Novotel hotel, discount rates at 866-861-6112 Tell them you are with HIO to get your discount.

    We will all meet and greet at Hurley’s pub Friday eve. on Crescent St. Some of us will be having supper there. Big screen for Hab’s at Buffalo game for us on the 2nd floor, and name tags will be given out.

    Saturday morning, breakfast is at Chez Cora’s at 8:30am. 1240 Drummond St. You can order a la cart and everyone gets 15% discount off your bill.

    After breakfast we walk over to the Bell Center and Hall of Fame Tours.

    At 3pm the Montreal Canadiens Children’s Foundation charity raffle at the Baton Rouge restaurant 1050 Mountain St.
    Each person is asked to bring one gift item to donate for the charity raffle, so everyone gets a gift to go home with.

    Then our Baton Rouge restaurant pre game dinner. With special guests.

    After dinner we walk across the street to see the Hab’s take on Gionta, Gorges and the Buffalo Sabers.

    After the game the 2nd floor of Hurley’s pub is reserved for us again, to celebrate the win. Just identify yourself as a HIO member.

    Please be generous with your charity raffle gifts and your purchase of raffle tickets. It is a way for the HIO community to give back to less fortunate kids.

    Enjoy talking hockey and meeting your wonderful HIO community at this years Summit.

  436. UKRAINIANhab, 19 July, 2014

    Doesn’t mean we won’t…

    It is so hard to win the cup.

  437. Habitant in Surrey, 19 July, 2014

  438. DDO_Habs_Fan, 19 July, 2014

    If he doesn’t go to Florida, I will be shocked. Who would not want to play with their brother? Plus it’s Florida…a young team, great weather, low stress, low taxes…etc. No brainer…

  439. marvin20, 19 July, 2014

    I was at the Bell Centre to see LA vs MTL back in December. Montreal was totally dominated, punished along the boards, and LA crashed into Price at will. The final score was 6-0 LA.

  440. on2ndthought, 19 July, 2014

    not tonight… sigh

    “a cannonading drive”

  441. Ian Cobb, 19 July, 2014

    Thanks ! Chris, it was my mistake not yours!

  442. Habitant in Surrey, 19 July, 2014

    You told Me to do it this afternoon Ian …change Your mind ?

  443. goaliehabsfan, 19 July, 2014

    He needed to get a lot stronger… He had the lowest grip strength of anyone at their training camp last year. One of the girls that was volunteering actually had a higher grip strength than he did.

  444. Ian Cobb, 19 July, 2014

    My mind was made up by others, who give us special consideration! My error my friend!

  445. habstrinifan, 19 July, 2014

    Absolutely agree.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  446. habstrinifan, 19 July, 2014

    Thanks Ian… just feared for your sanity with the workload.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  447. B, 19 July, 2014

    Hmm, Newport Sports, they (Meehan) also represent Subban.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  448. habsfan0, 20 July, 2014

    Last year, the Als started the season at 1-3 and despite winning their next game to move to 2-3,Dan Hawkins was relieved of his duties shortly thereafter.
    I see history repeating itself.

  449. clutch73, 20 July, 2014

    Has there been any update on the Canadiens and the whole televised games debacle? I’m in Northern Ontario.. when It comes to RDS I guess I’m screwed. What are my options for the other 60+ games? I know some people will stream games from certain websites etc.. some will get NHL center ice, what do most people who are blacked out from RDS going to do? I’d like to hear from you guys on what your plan is. This whole thing just makes me want to cry :( Montreal is Canada’s team, the habs have the most fans by far in Canada. How Geoff Molson and the Canadiens sit by and let this happen is beyond me. I’m going to write a heart felt letter Geoff, it might not help but I just want him to know how us Hab fans outside of Quebec feel.

  450. BJ, 20 July, 2014

  451. BJ, 20 July, 2014

    That was a truly weird episode in sports.

  452. Habitant in Surrey, 20 July, 2014

    I think all Habs Fans concerned by this should write Geoff, Keith Pelley of Rogers and the CRTC.

    As well, your signature on Our #RogersPetition would be appreciated.

    Being quiet about it and accepting what they give Us is one option, or letting Our displeasure and rejection be heard will at least provide Us a chance to make them realize this will result in a whole lot of negative PR and lost sales, and may make them reconsider.

    With enough vituperation it may force Roger’s, TVA and Bell (RDS/TSN) to negotiate a cross-Canada Habs’ Channel.


    Petition To Protest Roger’s Blacking Out Of Habs’ Games On RDS West Of Quebec

    Read and sign at;

  453. Habitant in Surrey, 20 July, 2014

    Me thinks Roger’s will be extra vigilant blocking streams in Canada starting October BJ.

  454., 20 July, 2014

    2.75 per game……that’s what I and millions others use to watch our favourite team. Center Ice is the way to go. Plus you get to watch any other game you want. I’m a hockey fan, I watch the Habs like every other fan, but I like to watch the competition like a hawk, and my boy loves to watch the Pens (so do I, Crosby is a machine). Center Ice!

    Regarding Geoff Molson, he’s a business man. He knows where the money is, and I am pretty sure (not 100%) that the more people who sign up for Center Ice the more money that gets spread around the league.

    But truthfully, I really love Center Ice, but I also live in the middle of Canada and can watch any game without shutting down the power convertors that run the moisture evaporators.

    I’ve done my part, I’ve cancelled my RDS subscription, when they pay to get a National broadcast I’ll sign up again (no I won’t, I think I watched two games on RDS last year), but until then they care about who in Canada? Where does there money come from?

    2 dollars and 75 cents, that’s nothing!

    Shane Oliver
    A Little fun during the Intermission
    Brandon Predators End Season Video

  455. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    Congratulations to team Canada, who beat the U.S. 8-5 in the world lacrosse championships last night in Denver. I only wish the event received more coverage.

    Speaking of coverage, the little guy and I are watching the British Open and playing Legos. Enjoy your day everyone! CJ

  456. alain58, 20 July, 2014

    I really don’t like NHL Center Ice. I was suscriber for one year and that was it. I don’t relish the idea of forking $400 a year to listen to subpar broadcasters from USA. Really bad deal.

  457. alain58, 20 July, 2014

    I am not on Rogers. They aren’t even present around here.

  458. Harditya, 20 July, 2014

    Good morning all!

    I think the Plekanec/Desharnais debate will take care of itself when Galchenyuk starts performing. Subban worked his way up, Pacioretty worked his way up. Plekanec also took away the no.1 spot from Koivu. Chucky will have to do the same. Steal the spot. Make it so obvious that MB has no choice but to ship one out. Right now, we wait till we see Chucky break-out. I say he puts up 50+ points this season. 15 G and 35 A at least.

  459. habstrinifan, 20 July, 2014

    He doesnt look stressed so things must be progressing. Meanwhile good on him for activities like this.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  460. Psycho29, 20 July, 2014

    I think the other store on the first floor is “LIDS”….they have hats, sweatshirts, a great choice…

  461. frontenac1, 20 July, 2014

    Agree CJ! Canada”s other National Sport. My son played Box Lax. Season started right after Hockey finished and they pulled the ice out of the arenas. I Love both Box and Field Lax. Hey, how about Tom Watson? 64 years old and made the cut at the British Open! Saludos!

  462. Frozen Village, 20 July, 2014

    Fastest sport on 2 feet. Congrats to the the Iroquois as well, getting to and knocking off the Sharks from the podium. First time.

    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

  463. DDO_Habs_Fan, 20 July, 2014

    Everybody is focused on moving Chucky to center when the focus should be to get him scoring first. Everyone says the Habs need a scoring winger. They have one already in Chucky. He is “hands-down” the most offensively gifted player on the team. There is plenty of time for him to move to center. The Habs need to unleash his scoring ability first before placing the extra responsibilities of being a center.

  464. Frozen Village, 20 July, 2014

    Agreed. Field for me is an extremely underestimated sport. Did you play for OU or the black sheep. ( those are the only 2 teams I played against from the Ottawa area)

    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

  465. fastfreddy, 20 July, 2014

    That’s why the Habs need a #1 centre, so Chucky can score more.

    CH = Les Glorieux!!!

  466. franco, 20 July, 2014


    Do some remember the NHL lock out. Do you remember the anger, the threats from fans, ‘never to support the NHL and players again’.

    The reality of sports (NHL) is this, when you purchase merchandise, with the Montreal logo on it, you are actually give 1/30th of your money to Boston and the other 29 teams.

    So all profits are spread around at the end of the season.

    When the media rights were sold to NBC for 5.2 billion dollars and the dividing up of how NHL hockey was going to broadcast, twittered, streamed by the parties that were part of the deal.

    They sat down years ago and figured how they would distribute all of this for maximum profit, afterall, the money is spend in order to make much more money in return.

    So to begin with Montreal Canadiens entertainment gets 21 million dollars per year over the next 5 years. The players get roughly half according to revenue sharing, so the cap goes up.

    To make maximum profits from people who will eventually pay, because they cannot live without watching 82 games every year.

    A little noise is to be expected, but the game is growing every year as well as new 7,8,9 year old fans discover the games and the parents buy the merchandise for them and pay the cable, smart phones to keep them happy.

    Each year new fans are created across the NHL and all owners will benefit as they all take a cut.

    So try to remember billions of dollars were spent for the rights, so they will divide the pie up as much as they can to maximize return for years to come.

  467., 20 July, 2014

    400? My lord where do you live? I do admit when the play by play sucks, I turn on my PC sound system and listen to TSN 690.

    Shane Oliver
    A Little fun during the Intermission
    Brandon Predators End Season Video

  468. frontenac1, 20 July, 2014

    The kids loved the Box Lax down here in Kingston. At the development camp in the summer there would be pro players from the Toronto Rock and Rochester Knighthawks coming in to help. Great guys. The scholarship money was in the Field Lax though and a few kids played both.

  469. HabinBurlington, 20 July, 2014

    Next year Tom says good bye to the British Open at St. Andrews, what a man and what a player. I so wish Tom could have pulled off the win in 09 at the Open. Would have been perhaps one of the greatest sporting feats in history. 1 shot away from being a 59 year old Major winner.

  470. HabinBurlington, 20 July, 2014

    Just saw that James Garner passed away, a great actor, loved him as Jim Rockford. RIP

  471. DipsyDoodler, 20 July, 2014

    Being stuck at the office today I thought I’d look up the stats of a bunch of top centres when they were 19-20 years of age (i.e. one year after their draft year). (Goals/Assts/Pts)

    Anze Kopitar: 20/41/61
    Jeff Carter: Still in Junior
    Ryan Johansen: 9/12/21
    John Tavares: 29/38/67
    Tyler Seguin: 29/38/67
    Joe Pavelski: College
    Ryan O’Reilly: 13/13/26
    Paul Stastny: 28/50/78

    And our own Alex Galchenyuk (pro-rated to an 80 game season):


    What is the conclusion? I don’t know (other than the Bruins really made a blunder trading away Seguin).

    Moving. Forward.

  472. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    I didn’t have the opportunity to play organized lacrosse growing up, but we played with my father on our property as kids. My dad was a very accomplished player, who was part of the junior team who won a national championship when he was a bantam. I just love the sport. I hope both my boys play, but that depends on their interest. I also agree with the comment re the fastest game on two feet.

    Regarding the golf, I agree with those comments re Tom Watson. I thought he had that championship, and it would have been a victory for the ages. On an aside, the big winner today, aside from Rory, will be Fowler who will get one step closer to a major, taking in the pressure of the final pairing.

  473. frontenac1, 20 July, 2014

    Rockford Files ,Support Your Local Sheriff.
    Classic Garner.

  474. habsfan0, 20 July, 2014

    Jim Rockford’s Firebird and Michael Knight’s on “Knight Rider” is the reason why I got one.
    RIP, James Garner.

  475. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    Sorry, failed to note, some of the best fights I ever saw, or was ever in was during the course of a lacrosse game. My friends and I used to beat each other mercifully then laugh afterwards. I guess it’s reflective of the age and area where I grew up, but we fought constantly. We fought on the golf course. Yes, the golf course. I remember arguing over rulings and getting into it with buddies. We went to school together during the week (we had split classes, so I was in a room with older kids), went to church and youth group and swim camp through the church, and fought all along the way.

    I guess the attraction to hockey and lacrosse has been tatooed into the fabric of my being since I was old enough to walk.

  476. Max_a_million, 20 July, 2014

    We have cap room and connections. Wouldn’t it be great to add a Patrick Sharp. Who could we give up to facilitate that. Chicago would want very little money and term going back.

    Travis Bournival, Pateryn, and 1st round draft pick?

    That’s probably not enough, it’s tough to give up the players you like on your own team isn’t it. Sharp could really help us in a big way.

  477. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    I got to meet John Tavares Front. The lacrosse player. I saw him live. Just unreal the athleticism these guys have.

  478. HabFab, 20 July, 2014

    Good rant other then the NBC deal was $2 bl and the Rogers deal was the $5.2 bl. one. 😉

  479. franco, 20 July, 2014

    How the games are distributed and by which means has already been decided, The NHL have sold the rights for 5.2 billion dollars.

    Cable companies will divide up the product anyway that makes them the most ‘beans’. Molson has no say he already has his cut. The players get a bigger salary cap and probably more moola.

    The NBC need their money back plus, plus, plus and the cable companies buy the packages if they want to compete.

    The fan in Whitehorse etc is out of luck. A little petiition is just a wart on a rhyno’s ass.

    All NHL teams got 21 million dollar bonus.

    The fans will pay or they will go away. So if they won’t/cant go away, they will pay.

  480. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    So nice to have the Iroquios back in the tournament.

  481. Frozen Village, 20 July, 2014

    Volunteer bases for lacrosse are a bit stretched once you get outside lower mainland in Vancouver and Toronto and burbs. ( so unfortunately where there is lacrosse, both men’s forms do not get the nurturing needed for sustainable growth).

    In Saskatchewan in the late 80’s early 90’s our provincial membership went from 80 members to 2000, driven by “teen-twenty” something / player/ coach/ facilities/ organizer types/ intra-lacrosse volunteers// that reach burn-out level often before the next generation takes over, ,

    We had a player from a great lacrosse family, that played for the nighthawks, Casey Zapf, whom was a builder in his own right. Casey was a field player that transitioned to box well. There-in lies the cross-over I think, Casey grew up playing both hands, many box players are one handed players.

    Nonetheless, thank you to CJ and to you Frontenac for sharing lacrosse this Sunday.

    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

  482. HabFab, 20 July, 2014

    Bourque ($3.33ml) and draft pick for Sharpe ($5.9ml). The Hawks save $2.57ml and make the Cap. It has already been rumoured.

  483. franco, 20 July, 2014

    So what?

  484. HabinBurlington, 20 July, 2014

    Really? Here I thought NBC and Rogers were paying this money out of the goodness of their hearts. I thought they were just being philanthropic. This is good information to find out.

  485. HabinBurlington, 20 July, 2014

    Come on Frank, no one corrects Franco and gets away with it.

  486. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    One conclusion that jumps out is the contract that Tavares is signed to. Likely the best value in the league. On the open market the guy would be worth $10 million annually. He’s signed for half that, long term.

    Chucky will get rolling. Of all the players, 21 and under in our organization, he has the most upside. If we want to maximize Chucky’s offense, we need to put him with an offensive catalyst. It will be interesting to see where everyone lines up in camp.

  487. Frozen Village, 20 July, 2014

    That is some good humour. Golf course never fought there, yet we did have kick boxing rings set-up in backyards complete with a digest of the current fighters that would enter into our realm of scraps.

    Lacrosse here is not so prevalent, so access for my boys is limited to catch in the back yard and beach.

    Thanks for sharing CJ, lacrosse players from your dad’s generation were tough and often times quite intellectual. Psycho tough, cheers to you and your dad, and the 3rd world crown for Canada.

    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

  488. Frozen Village, 20 July, 2014


    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

  489. punkster, 20 July, 2014

    This message has been brought to you by the makers of Captain Obvious Breakfast Cereal … free self evidence in every box.

    Release the Subbang!!!

  490. punkster, 20 July, 2014

    I wake up every morning with the anticipation of a kid on Christmas day and rush in here to absorb these words of wisdom.

    Release the Subbang!!!

  491. SmartDog, 20 July, 2014

    Not ALL poop. My poop – i.e. the poop that I know.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  492. Frozen Village, 20 July, 2014

    I like Chucky, Lars and Sekac, Eller is the F1.

    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

  493. on2ndthought, 20 July, 2014

    Good news:

    “a cannonading drive”

  494. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see that combination given a long look in camp. IMO, there is going to be a lot of competition for roster spots this season. Lots to be decided.

  495. HardHabits, 20 July, 2014

    Back in the day the American Revolutionaries were just warts on a Rhino’s ass. When Fortran and Cobol were big Microsoft was just a wart on a Rhino’s ass too. Good thing they took franco’s advice. *sarcasm*

  496. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    This is such a great story. I’d love to see him light it up in Hamilton this year. I can’t wait to see him skate onto the ice at the Bell Centre.

  497. punkster, 20 July, 2014

    Release the Subbang!!!

  498. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    Thank you kindly! Yes, I’m blessed to have a great dad. A son, and now grandsons couldn’t be luckier. Cheers, CJ

  499. Cal, 20 July, 2014

    I object to the objectification of those warts! The view of the back end of a rhino I could do without.
    The wisdom of hockey insiderrrr and the wit of a sledge hammer. One is in awe of such heraldry!

  500. DipsyDoodler, 20 July, 2014

    A little bit of advice that has nothing to do with hockey.

    I was looking to buy an unlocked Nexus 5 phone.

    Google sells it for $349 plus $17 shipping.

    Bell, Rogers and Fido will sell you that exact same phone for $500.

    Good old the free market.

    Moving. Forward.

  501. Un Canadien errant, 20 July, 2014

    Did the Canadiens dodge a bullet?

    Cody Franson’s agents submitted $4.2M as his client’s demand in salary arbitration, while the Leafs are offering $2M.

    Of course, that’s the ‘ask’, neither side may expect their figure to win the day, NHL arbitrators can split the award somewhere in the middle that they feel is justified. Still though, Cody Franson had trouble coming to a deal last season with the Leafs, he may have an inflated sense of his value.

    I’m satisfied with the cost-effective players we signed on July 1, Tom Gilbert at $2.8M and Mike Weaver at $1.75M, on short-term deals, and as we wait for the Bulldog righties to be ready.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  502. HabFab, 20 July, 2014

    Don’t support your local namesake!

  503. HabFab, 20 July, 2014

    If you compare him to Pylon, then he is worth $4.2 ml at least.

  504. HabFab, 20 July, 2014

    For Front and the other fight enthusiasts;

  505. Habbergasted, 20 July, 2014

    Thanks for posting that. Get a deal done already MB.

  506. Cal, 20 July, 2014


  507. HabinBurlington, 20 July, 2014

    Yes but road construction is a big part of the Leafs off season, so they tend to be worth their weight in gold. It matters not, like Manna from the heavens, NBC and Rogers are spewing cash out of their Ivory Towers to the owners. It is limitless……

  508. D Man, 20 July, 2014

    Maverick! But then Sarah Palin and John McCain ruined the name.

    You can’t be both a Habs and a Leafs fan

  509. HabFab, 20 July, 2014

    That Creative Writing course is starting to show dividends 😛
    Been to the ‘Peg this summer yet?

  510. Max_a_million, 20 July, 2014

    It’s almost certainly stolen. Hopefully you are okay with that.

    Hurray cheap stolen merchandise.

  511. HabinBurlington, 20 July, 2014

    No, Mom and some of the family came my direction, heading to a cottage in the Finger Lakes (Upstate New York) for the week.

  512. HabinBurlington, 20 July, 2014

    Possible, but there is a huge amount of inventory constantly being made available to secondary markets from the Mfg’s. Many are open box returns, many blackberry and iphones go through a customer of mines warehouse for resale and none are stolen. They are like new and sell for very competitive prices.

    But no doubt there is much stolen product being sold through the internet daily.

  513. Rugger, 20 July, 2014

    The Great Escape (and great cast all around!) RIP

  514. habs_54321, 20 July, 2014

    Galchenyuk knowing he will be playing wing this coming season again should really work on his shooting, I think maybe consider changing his curve and flex, all his shots are erratic I can’t think of one goal of his that was scored of the rush by firing the puck past the goalie all his points are generated by tic tac toe plays, deflections, wrap arounds or rebounds, he really needs to add shooting the puck to his arsenal before we see him become an effective winger, seguin worked well on wing because he could fire it as good as anyone

  515. DipsyDoodler, 20 July, 2014

    The ridiculous software here labels all my replies as spam. Anyhow, not stolen.

    I t i s t h e n o rml pr ice f or the Google p h o n

    Moving. Forward.

  516. B, 20 July, 2014

    Rogers made it’s $5.2M deal with the NHL for national rights to games in Canada. I don’t think the NHL required or, from what I have read, asked for the Canadien’s input to close that deal. I believe the Canadiens themselves can only make regional deals like the one with RDS (which I assume was subject to league approval).

    In general, I believe the NHL has minimized the input or influence of the Montreal Canadiens since they seem to place more priority on longevity of the ownership group and less on the longevity of the actual franchise. They may pay lip service to the history of the Habs, but when actual league decisions are made, Montreal seems to have less to say about it than most teams (or more accurately than most ownerships).

    –Go Habs Go!–

  517. B, 20 July, 2014

    Most of what I have read claims that Gorges was moved due to his contract being too high and the Habs needing to free up cap space. If they had a good idea that Franson would cost as much or more than Gorges, then moving Gorges may not have been primarily motivated by his contract. The caveat in this may be the remaining term in Gorges contract rather than the annual cap hit. Franzen may not have signed a big 4 year (or longer) deal in Montreal leaving more flexibility to promote prospects if / when they prove ready to be full time NHLers. Picking up Gilbert shows the Habs are not convinced that the prospects are ready to step into big full time roles yet (and that they feel the need to have a certain level of D with significant NHL experience).

    –Go Habs Go!–

  518. piper, 20 July, 2014

    DD or Plek for Sharpe would be nice. They probably don’t want Pleks contract so DD it is.

  519. Un Canadien errant, 20 July, 2014

  520. frontenac1, 20 July, 2014

    Thanks amigo. Great read and justification for signing a Legit Heavyweight for this season. Jay Rosehill or Anthony Paluso would be ideal. Saludos!

  521. aroma, 20 July, 2014

    Unless memory fails me (which it often does), isn’t tomorrow the day of the two arbitration hearings? If so, I’m surprised that there’s no buzz about it anywhere, on this site or elsewhere…please enlighten me someone.

  522. PK, 20 July, 2014

    From what I have heard/read:

    Lars – July 25th
    PK – Aug 1st

    >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

    – Nostradamus, 1552

  523. B, 20 July, 2014

    Yes, the arbitration hearings start tomorrow:

    –Go Habs Go!–

  524. aroma, 20 July, 2014

    thanks. Now to sweat it out for a few days more…

  525. OkeyBaum, 20 July, 2014

    Press release from Marketwire

    TVA Sports and Scotiabank Team Up to Broadcast 2014/15 Season NHL Games
    Wednesday, July 16, 2014

    TVA Sports and Scotiabank Team Up to Broadcast 2014/15 Season NHL Games
    10:00 EDT Wednesday, July 16, 2014

    MONTREAL, QC –(Marketwired – July 16, 2014) – Scotiabank and TVA Sports today announce a partnership to broadcast all French language NHL hockey games for the 2014-15 season, bringing the action to fans across Canada.

    “This fall, thanks to deals with the NHL, the QMJHL and the CHL, TVA Sports will be offering fans their best hockey experience ever,″ explained Isabelle Rochefort, Director of Sales and Marketing at TVA Sports. “Scotiabank has developed a number of innovative programs to support hockey in recent years and that is why we are particularly proud to be able to count on such a prestigious and committed national partner. We are very eager to work on new initiatives with them.″

    “Scotiabank has a long tradition of supporting Canadian hockey — from a professional level to local teams and minor hockey associations,” says Carole Chapdelaine, Scotiabank Senior Vice President for Quebec & Eastern Ontario Region. “We are very excited to partner with TVA Sports to bring the game we all love to communities’ right across our country.”

    Through the Scotiabank Community Hockey Sponsorship Program, part of the Scotiabank Bright Future program, the Bank last year supported 920 local minor hockey teams across Quebec. This program supports over 5,000 minor hockey teams across the country.

    About TVA Sports
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  526. SmartDog, 20 July, 2014

    Just 2 Questions…
    Looking for knowledgeable answers – not the usual pull-it-out-of-my-donkey responses I ask for! 😉

    1. Is Tom Gilbert a decent player or not? I’ve heard he’s great for the money. And I’ve heard he shouldn’t be in the NHL. What’s the story here?
    2. Tim Bozon is on his way to a tournament playing for France’s national team. Wow! Does this mean complete recovery? I hope so. But I’m not a doctor. Or even a veterinarian.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  527. Ian Cobb, 20 July, 2014

    Both are supposed to be on Friday the 1st.

  528. Ian Cobb, 20 July, 2014

    Very Classy! Ottawa!
    Can anyone tell me which kindergarten class, won the naming of Ottawa’s professional CFL football team???
    The runner up class had the name, The One’s and Two’s.

    Not much time folks!!
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  529. habs_54321, 20 July, 2014

    he’s like a taller diaz

  530. scamorza, 20 July, 2014

    Guess we are talking a big bottle of compound w

    come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  531. SmartDog, 20 July, 2014

    Oh. That’s not so good.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  532. SmartDog, 20 July, 2014

    Others were:
    The Runners and Throwers
    The Astroturfnauts

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  533. Old Bald Bird, 20 July, 2014

    I like it although I seem to be the only one. NZ has the All Blacks and no one seems to get bent out of shape over it.

  534. SmartDog, 20 July, 2014

    All Blacks is badass. Red Blacks is school yard… or, we couldn’t decide what colour we liked so we picked two!

    It reminds me of when Alan Fotheringham used to call the Progressive Conservative party the Forward Backward party.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  535. Old Bald Bird, 20 July, 2014

    It’s their trad colours though. I suppose they could have gone with thrushes or sparrows since alouettes was taken. Pelicans? Storks? 😉

    Note: I haven’t watched a football game in ages. I just think you require 15 yards for piling on.

  536. Old Bald Bird, 20 July, 2014

    It’s much better than a shorter Diaz. Not as disastrous in a forward either. Still think Diaz could have been useful on the right team at the right time. That will probably never happen now.

  537. Habfun, 20 July, 2014

    The best answer I can find is this:
    “The modern REDBLACKS “R” features two notches, which appear to have been cut with a saw, fused to a circular saw blade background. The blade represents many of the characteristics we hope our players will demonstrate; speed, unstoppable force, precision, balance, strong-as-steel and even dangerous. It also has a relationship to Ottawa’s founding as a lumber industry town.”
    Although this doesn’t exactly explain it there is another explanation about binary codes and colours that I don’t understand! So I will stick to partial understanding of the name!
    I am from Ottawa and I don’t mind the name RedBlacks!
    I was at the game and it sure wasn’t a very well played game on the field by both sides but we’ll take the win. IT WAS A BLAST!!
    Very well done by the management and owners. I think the RedBlacks are here to stay!
    I was an Alouette fan when we had no ball here! maybe it’s because I am a life long Hab Fan or maybe it’s because I work and live in Ottawa and have a very large family here If it wasn’t for those two things Montreal would be my choice of places to live, It is one of the best cities in North America I have ever been to! And I have been to many!
    I know I am choosing my city for football but I could never cheer for the local wanna be NHL team!
    Habs for life and beyond!!

    It’s all about the CH

  538. Chris, 20 July, 2014

    Is it any different that the Laval Rouge et Or? I don’t hear too many people knocking that name.

  539. frontenac1, 20 July, 2014

    Johnny Walker amigo. Red and Black.

  540. frontenac1, 20 July, 2014

    Good point amigo. I read somewhere when the ownership was doing their market research,they found a good chunk of the fan base was across the river in Quebec and the name Rouge et Noir was a natural .

  541. franco, 20 July, 2014


    bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….happy now?

  542. franco, 20 July, 2014

    Better to explain this to your petition makers.

  543. HardHabits, 20 July, 2014

    I have no issue with the naming of the Ottawa Redblacks. Bring on the Saskatchewan Red Blacks and we’re set.

  544. PK, 20 July, 2014

    I am equally puzzled by the name of the University of Ottawa sports teams – the Ottawa Gee Gees.
    (Garnet and Grey).

    By that standard, the Habs should be known as the Montreal RedWhiteBlues. LOL.

    (Mind you, Bleu, blanc et rouge sounds better … especially the way that Marinaro was belting it out during the playoffs).

    >>>> Les Canadiens sont là
    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    “Une équipe de hockey sur glace de l’île de Mont-Royal va gagner la Coupe de Lord Stanley à 24 reprises dans le 20e siècle et trois fois au cours du 21e siècle.”

    – Nostradamus, 1552

  545. HabFab, 20 July, 2014

    In regards to Rogers and TV access for hockey games. I was speaking to someone in Rogers today and was told that they are aware of the concerns. Come the end of August, they will be making some announcements on how they plan going forward. RDS having 2 (?) years left on their contract with the Habs is an issue, but they are working towards a solution.

    For what all that is worth….

  546. habstrinifan, 20 July, 2014

    Sounds promising or at least hopeful.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  547. Ian Cobb, 20 July, 2014

    Chris that’s because most English people, do not have any idea that in English it is red & gold !

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  548. Say Ash, 20 July, 2014

    One of them needs a hyphen

  549. on2ndthought, 20 July, 2014

    They’re actually the Governor Generals (Gee Gees)

    “a cannonading drive”

  550. habstrinifan, 20 July, 2014

    Apparently the name is derived from the main colours of the OC TRANSPO buses here in Ottawa (Red&Black) which will be playing a much more vital role in transportation to and from the stadium. Ticket holders get free shuttlebuses in and out of the downtown core to designated transfer stations.

    They seem to be doing this reincarnation RIGHT. I have never really been a football fan but I am considering a pkg … so the have at least one new fan.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  551. Ian Cobb, 20 July, 2014

    G G’s for gosh golly, imposter Pk!

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  552. habstrinifan, 20 July, 2014

    I think PK was right. Here is the list for all 20 players.

    Player Position Date Team 2013-14 Salary
    Vladimir Sobotka Forward July 21, 2014 St. Louis Blues $1.4 million
    Cody Franson Defense July 21, 2014 Toronto Maple Leafs $2 million
    Antoine Roussel Forward July 22, 2014 Dallas Stars $625,000
    Jason Demers Defense July 22, 2014 San Jose Sharks $1.5 million
    Ryan O’Reilly Forward July 23, 2014 Colorado Avalanche $6.5 million
    Chris Kreider Forward July 23, 2014 New York Rangers $900,000
    Derek Grant Forward July 24, 2014 Ottawa Senators $660,000
    Cameron Gaunce Defense July 25, 2014 Dallas Stars $650,000
    Lars Eller Forward July 25, 2014 Montreal Canadiens $1.5 million
    Mats Zuccarello Forward July 25, 2014 New York Rangers $1.15 million
    Derick Brassard Forward July 28, 2014 New York Rangers $3.7 million
    James Reimer Goalie July 28, 2014 Toronto Maple Leafs $1.6 million
    Brandon McMillan Forward July 29, 2014 Arizona Coyotes $709,500
    Jimmy Hayes Forward July 29, 2014 Florida Panthers $687,000
    Kevin Poulin Goalie July 30, 2014 New York Islanders $577,000
    Nick Spaling Forward July 31, 2014 Pittsburgh Penguins $1.5 million
    Michael Frolik Forward July 31, 2014 Winnipeg Jets $1.9 million
    Joe Colborne Forward August 1, 2014 Calgary Flames $600,000
    Dwight King Forward August 1, 2014 Los Angeles Kings $750,000
    Justin Fontaine Forward August 1, 2014 Minnesota Wild $600,000
    P.K. Subban Defense August 1, 2014 Montreal Canadiens $3.75 million

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  553. on2ndthought, 20 July, 2014

    Watch him. He has been on pathetic teams, and held his ground. He isn’t a big physical presence. I look at it this way, Weaver was -9 with FLA in 50 games, +9 in 20 with the habs. In 80 games with FLA, and more TOI minutes, Gilbert was -5. (I know nothing of the relative strength of their opponents, but it’s Florida (who I think helped themselves this off-season, but I said the same thing 3-4 years ago when they brought in Kopecky etc..)

    “a cannonading drive”

  554. B, 20 July, 2014

    Perhaps it was TSN having 2 years left on their regional English contract? RDS had a national deal that expired after the 13/14 season and then signed a new 12 year regional deal going forward.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  555. CHicoHab, 20 July, 2014

    So with McIlroys win today his dad and a couple buddies will cash in a ticket worth $340,000. His dad out the bet in 10 years ago that Rory wins the British open before he turns 26. The odds apparently 500-1

  556. Cal, 20 July, 2014

    45 years ago today, tvs were blaring out
    “The Eagle has landed.” And, of course, “That’s one small step for man; one giant leap for mankind.”

    Where have the aspirations gone?

  557. jrshabs1, 20 July, 2014

    Ottawa GG = Garnet and Grey or, a horse racing term (first out of the gate), hence the horse logo.

    Go Habs Go!!!!!

  558. zephyr, 20 July, 2014

    I thought it might be time for galchenyuk to centre max & Gallagher. that way we don’t have 2 midgets on the same line. dd is our best playmaker but ag is #2 with tons of upside. if that happens, we’re going to have to move one of the other ctrs tho. pleks is not a #1 centre. he’s a bit of a carbonneau type player imo. he’s a shooting ctr & not much of a playmaker. he plays a great 2-way game but he’s also soft. pleks as a checking line centre. if dd is going to be effective, we have to play him with some big wingers like max or bourque.
    if ag plays wing this season, he has to play in the top 6. that could be a prob because max, dd, gallagher, bourque & eller s/b top 6. that leaves parenteau to play with pleks. I understand def isn’t his strong suit tho plus he plays soft.
    well, we’ll see what happens. i’ll be disappointed if ag plays with pleks again.

  559. Phil C, 20 July, 2014

    I always thought Gilbert was a really nice all-round defensemen for the Oilers, arguably their best one at times. I was surprised when his career went in the toilet with Minnesota. From what I’ve read, a lot of his decline could be due to injuries. He took a huge hit from Carcillo just before being traded to Minnesota, so I suspect he never fully recovered from it that season.

    The following season, he ended up with pneumonia, even lost some weight and was subsequently bought out at the end of the season.

    He is not a physical defensemen, but he does bring an offensive element to his game that Gorges was lacking, and he can eat a lot of minutes against the other team’s top lines. I think he is a really good fit in Montreal, so I hope he can find some chemistry with one of Emelin, Markov, or Beaulieu.

  560. eric, 20 July, 2014

    They should try ” cakes” on the right side. He’s big and a natural right winger

  561. eric, 20 July, 2014

    Flooding the phone lines might get their attention a little more than the petition.I signed the petition as I’m in calgary and there’s not going to be much out here.We are the most popular team in canada and you can tell by all the hab jerseys you see in the crowds in any rink they play in. Here and the states. Go Habs Go

  562. THE ABSOLUTE_TRUTH, 20 July, 2014

    Its all about having the right players if you want to win a cup. Every team have the same chance every year. LA had the right players 2013-2014 and won it all that’s what its all about.

  563. GrimJim, 20 July, 2014

    Into debt

  564. Un Canadien errant, 20 July, 2014

    Review: “Tales of a First-Round Nothing” by Terry Ryan

    I approached reading the memoirs of Terry Ryan, titled “Tales of a First-Round Nothing: My Life as an NHL Footnote”, with eager anticipation. I heard about it through the book tour the author did prior to the release, and I looked forward to an illuminating read, shining a spotlight on the fallow period in the Canadiens history after the ’93 Stanley Cup, the dismissal of Serge Savard and Jacques Demers, and the inauguration of Réjean Houle and Mario Tremblay as the team’s General Manager and Head Coach respectively. I also expected some insight on the way the Canadiens supported the players they chose in the draft, and how they were coached in the minors.

    Unfortunately, very few of the questions I had were answered, and the read was a disappointment, almost a slog to complete. There are many fundamental problems with it, first and foremost that Terry Ryan is not a talented writer, and not given to introspection beyond the general, ‘it is what it is’ and ‘I take full responsibility’ platitudes.

    The author starts his tale in 1991, when his family moved from Newfoundland to Quesnel, B.C. so that he could be eligible for the WHL draft, his father feeling that was the right junior league for him. Mr. Ryan is fourteen years old but already a six-footer and 180 lbs., and plays Junior A hockey with and against players up to 21 years old. From there he takes us to his stint with the Tri-Cities Americans, being drafted by the Canadiens, his years playing in the AHL in Fredericton under coach Michel Therrien, his trade demand, which he calls “one of the most ridiculous decisions I’ve ever made”, and various stops with other clubs in progressively lower circuits: the ECHL, then senior hockey.

    One frustrating aspect of the book is how the author hop-scotches from one season to another, or from one month to another, for reasons that are hard to discern. It’s not the expected use of foreshadowing and flashback, but rather a disjointed tale where one tangent follows another and lacks a unifying thread. The reader who is used to sports biographies, and is accustomed to the rhythm they normally utilize, will be thrown. Instead of going from one season to the off-season to the next season, with things like stats and awards earned, and progress in different areas and his personal life used to show the arc of his career, the author skips and jumps and backtracks in an incoherent fashion, and leads you to wonder fifty pages further on: “Wait, what happened eventually to that coach (teammate, opponent, season, team, objective set) that he was prattling on about?” Frequently there is no resolution, just other matters raised, which themselves won’t be resolved either.

    Another issue, and it’s a big one, is that the material in the book is often awkward, if not downright puerile and inappropriate. Mr. Ryan must be a great guy to have a beer or two at the pub with, he seems full of tales to tell, some no doubt of the ‘tall’ variety. The thing is, he might be a good story-teller in person, maybe he’d be great on the lecture circuit, or as a sports-talk radio host, but in print his stories fall flat, approaching the level of Abraham Simpson’s ‘onion-on-the-belt’ yarns.

    One story describes how their rink lost power during an ice-storm, and they had to clear out of the arena in their skates, but found that they could skate in the parking lot, everything having been coated by freezing rain. Mr. Ryan and a couple of teammates did that for a while, got bored and decided to pile into his car and drive around, wouldn’t you know it, with their skates on! So around town they drive, really slow, fishtailing a bit, still in their full gear, until they realize they should probably head back, but stop beforehand at a drive-through to get coffee for the boys. Once they get back, the practice has started again. Boy was the coach ever mad!

    And that’s the kind of highjinks that are detailed in the book, ‘you had to be there’ stuff. And, disappointingly, there are a couple of anecdotes that feel like they belong in Penthouse Forum, rather than a book about hockey. I couldn’t help but think about how Jim Bouton in “Ball Four” told a lot of stories about extra-curricular activities between players and groupies and airline hostesses, but always with a suitable reserve, that told you all you need to know without naming names or getting into juvenilia.

    The most disappointing part for me is that an anecdote he told during the book tour, about meeting a Canadiens scout in an elevator the night before the draft, isn’t contained in the book. The most crucial stuff I wanted to read, about how the Canadiens scouted him (or didn’t scout him), about the Mr. Magoo who ran the team, about how the actual draft day went for him, is glossed over and I was left with more questions than answers. So we don’t find out more about how that scout talked to him but believed he was Shane Doan the whole time, by reading the book.

    I later figured out that it was when answering questions from competent journalists that these issues are raised and discussed, not in his book. They got to the heart of the matter by probing with good questions, instead of letting Mr. Ryan ramble on. And this to me crystallized that what the author would have needed is a good editor. Not a proof-reader, but an actual editor, who would have read his book as a first draft, given him copious notes and constructive criticism, and got him to work on his second draft, with a lot of running commentary, and encouragement to delve into detail here, skip over this stuff there, tie all these loose ends everywhere, etc.

    Terry Ryan in his many adventures does end up befriending some big names in the showbiz and hockey world, notably Jim Cuddy of Blue Rodeo, Ron McLean of Hockey Night in Canada, and NHL’er and PEI native Brad Richards. He currently works on the TV show “The Republic of Doyle.” My suspicion is that this book actually didn’t get edited, that it was self-published, and therein lies the great weakness. His friends may have opened doors, helped with the financing of the book, helped him obtain grants, if I am to trust the many ‘arts councils’ who are credited at the beginning of the book.

    I’m not saying that Terry Ryan is a dummy. He obtained his B.A. in English literature after his playing career wound down. He’s engaging, and tells his story with candor, even if he’s oblique about the reasons why he ‘busted’, which is the main interest of most who will read this book I would wager.

    Why he made a trade demand, after two seasons in the AHL in Fredericton, is unclear. He does talk about friction with his coach Michel Therrien, but spends so much time re-iterating that he does not have any ill-will for him, and wishes him all the best in his current stint as Canadiens head coach, that it turns into a snow-job. Aside from one anecdote about how he’d smoke on the team bus, and another when the coach told him he could make or break him, send him down to the IHL, there is no meat on the bone. And so he does confess repeatedly that his trade demand was unwise, but he doesn’t even enumerate the reasons he felt that way at the time. We’re left wanting much more, like an audience going to see Wolfmother in concert but not getting to hear “The Joker and the Thief”.

    Another consideration is that we never read about how he trained during the season and in the off-season. He only mentions fitness twice during the book, once when he mentions that he worked on his cardio a lot before the season, and another when he says that he came into a training camp in the “best shape of my life”. Seeing as all the anecdotes about getting drunk and having beers with teammates are recounted, we get a sense as to the dedication he showed to his career. Terry Ryan must have been a great teammate to have, with the laughs and high-jinks, but it probably came at the expense of his own success as a player.

    One final, sad issue which is glossed over is how he started one season as a Canadien but didn’t play much, and got sent back down to the WHL to finish out the season. Startlingly, he explains that he shouldn’t have played that season, since he was concussed when he got sent down. Again though, there is no narrative, no explanation of how and when this happened, and whether he talked to doctors or coaches, all of that is skipped over.

    As readers and fans we’re trying to figure out why Mr. Ryan didn’t pan out, and one of the big reasons must have been these concussions that he glosses over. From being fourteen years old and fighting with nearly grown men in Junior A, to playing the role of the guy who won’t back down from anyone, even heavyweights in the WHL, AHL and even the NHL, Terry Ryan prided himself on his toughness, taking on all comers, and giving everything he had.

    This is where you wish that the Canadiens had had a player development staff like they currently have with Martin Lapointe and the recently-departed Patrice Brisebois. You wish that the Habs had had a guy who could have taken Terry aside and told him that he shouldn’t waste his time fighting CHL goons, but rather work on his hockey skills, develop his scoring and defensive play. And you hope that that message is going out to the Michael McCarrons and the Brett Lernouts and the Connor Crips, that yeah, you stand up for your teammates, and yeah sometimes you have to drop the gloves, but not against the no-hopers who want to make a reputation at your expense in a nonsensical fight.

    While there is a tale to tell, notably his work with disadvantaged Inuit youth, it isn’t done adequately in this memoir, and I can’t recommend this book to anyone. At best, to those completists who will insist on reading the book for themselves, I’ll urge you to read those sections you’re really interested in, and skim or skip altogether those you’re not. You won’t be missing out on anything.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

  565. GrimJim, 20 July, 2014

    Gee-Gee is also British slang for a horse

  566. CJ, 20 July, 2014

    Regarding the name Red Blacks, I met Jeff Hunt at a local business chamber event, eggs and icons. He did a presentation and fielded questions. A significant portion of the presentation focused on the name. Here was Mr.Hunt’s response, based on my recollection;

    Hunt told the audience that a fan approached him during the grey cup game in Toronto and suggested the name Red Blacks. That was the first time anyone brought the idea forward. He noted that they had a number of names, however there wasn’t a single name that garnered more than 1% of the vote when feedback was received. As a result he recognized that no matter what name was chosen, a significant percentage of the fan base would be opposed. He indicated that red blacks was a tribute to the traditional ottawa sporting colours. The blade around the name is representative of the lumber industry, which was a staple in the Ottawa Valley. Lastly, the mascot is named Joe. He was originally going to be Joe Muffera, but there was a tremendous amount of negative press surrounding this announcement, so they dropped the Muffera, but kept the costume.

    In any event, I hope this helps to shed some light on the Red Black name and logo.

    Cheers, CJ

  567. scamorza, 20 July, 2014

    Thought it was a good signing
    Right handed shot
    Could be 2nd team PP
    Not bad defensively
    Cheaper $ than Gorges and then with weaver resigning…..

    come to Dorion suits where you get no….”hassoles” _ Yvon Lambert

  568. Garbo, 20 July, 2014

    This has got to be, hopefully, one of the most intentionally ironic posts of all time.

    … “almost a slog to complete”

  569. DipsyDoodler, 20 July, 2014

    Two things.

    1. Sounds like you realized early on that it was a dud, but you kept reading till the end. Well done I guess. I gave up after page one of Da Vinci Code.

    2. I love the use of “disappointingly” here: “And, disappointingly, there are a couple of anecdotes that feel like they belong in Penthouse Forum, rather than a book about hockey.”

    Moving. Forward.

  570. Marc10, 20 July, 2014

    Thanks Norman for saving me the trouble. I was intrigued… but your review sums it up nicely. Safe to say it doesn’t go straight ‘to the pool room’ with ‘Net Worth’ or ‘The Game’.

    Perhaps Terry’s book is destined for the garage sale with the tag ‘Make Me An Offer’. Oh well…

  571. Garbo, 20 July, 2014

    I think that confirms what everyone speculated below… just a literal description of their colours. As if a five year old named them.

  572. DipsyDoodler, 20 July, 2014

    Like a 5 yr old named the Toronto basketball team after having just seen that summer’s blockbuster.

    Moving. Forward.

  573. Un Canadien errant, 20 July, 2014

    Seventeen measly paragraphs and the fangs come out?…

  574. Un Canadien errant, 20 July, 2014

    I have three links on the post on my blog, to three articles that sum up all you need to know. The best is a post by JT on her blog.

  575. Marc10, 20 July, 2014

    Good thing they didn’t get their team next year when 50 Shades of Grey comes out…

  576. Marc10, 20 July, 2014

    Can’t afford that kind of wasteful socialist nonsense nowadays… Unless you’re going to go there to put a mining colony down for Big Jim McDonor or to set up a millitary outpost for Wingnuts Inc.

  577. Un Canadien errant, 20 July, 2014

    I kept reading in hopes of finally getting to the ‘elevator’ story.

    I used to struggle to finish books. It took me three or four false starts to get through “A Son of the Circus”. But now usually if it’s not doing it for me I put the book down and reach for another, life’s too short.

    I’m reading “Duty” by Robert Gates right now, and I’m not sure I’ll be able to get through it. Usually when you have no problems putting a book down after a couple pages, it’s bad news. Not that the book isn’t any good, just that it’s relatively dense, and I keep having to flip back when he mentions a name and I can’t remember who the guy is and what is job/title is.

  578. bwoar, 20 July, 2014

    Much appreciated! Read on your blog, which contained some helpful hyperlinks – I recommend everyone else do the same.

    One tiny thing to add: Jim Bouton did name a couple names… I think that outing Mickey Mantle as the best baller at ‘shooting beaver’ ruffled more than a few Big Apple turkey feathers. You are correct in the main, though, that he tread lightly around people he could’ve dragged down easily.

    My summer list always has some baseball on it; sooner or later I’ll get into “The Bad Guys Won” by Jeff Pearlman, who seems to have made debauchery & disgrace his literary oeuvre. Hopefully it’s got more sense than Terry Ryan’s tell-all (or tell-nothing).

  579. bwoar, 20 July, 2014

    It is not time to put Galchenyuk at centre,

  580. bwoar, 20 July, 2014

    1. Sekac is a LW mainly.
    2. He’s very, very unlikely to be a useful top-6 player in the NHL.

  581. bwoar, 20 July, 2014

    I’m down with both of those applications, if it’s the only way.

  582. Chris, 20 July, 2014

    So…I have discovered that I’ve always been pompous and I’ve always been wordy. 😉 Somehow stumbled on some of my posts from the old newsgroup from my undergrad days. Good Lord.

    And for those of you that think I only like soft players, I’ll give you more ammo: I used to regularly defend Patrice Brisebois and Vladimir Malakhov.

    I always wondered where Gerry Warner, AJ Bassett, Earl Sibley, Lauri Tarkkonen and Ian Merrithew ended up. Stubbs joined that group after I fell off the wagon for a few years, and I wonder if that wasn’t the driving force behind Hockey Inside/Out. The online community in the newsgroup was great, at least from 1995-2000 when I was first lurking and then posting regularly.

    I’m sure that I will look back on my posts on this site in 15-20 years and hang my head in shame again. I was a tanking advocate in 1998?!??

  583. J.Ambrose.OBrien, 21 July, 2014

    Hey Chris, whatcha think about this year’s Tour? Disappointing, eh? Though it is nice to see someone other than Sky win. Oh well, the Italiens will be happy.

    I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  584. Marc10, 21 July, 2014

    Well then the race is on. China’s putting a person there in the next couple of years. Then come the 3-D printers, the robots and the moon colony…

  585. UKRAINIANhab, 21 July, 2014

    Is it hockey season yet?

    Йти Habs йти

    That’s my contribution for tonight. Since there is nothing to talk about…

    Hotdog or Hamburger?

  586. Marc10, 21 July, 2014

    Malakhov. Now that’s a disappointment. That guy had everything.

    Kovalenko was another one that really pissed me off. An absolute rock. Low center of gravity… Damn what a waste!

    Russian mercenaries… Thankfully Markov was cut from a different cloth. Love that guy.

  587. Mad Habber, 21 July, 2014

    Thanks for the review I believe I saw a similar review of this book. One thing though, it wasn’t self-published, it was published by ECW press. Plus you should be able to find the editor of the book or if there is one, because they are usually found on the first few pages.

  588. habsgod, 21 July, 2014

    hi everyone i just got in from calgary alex is still there i will update everyone in the morning!

  589. Marc10, 21 July, 2014

    Hot dog from the old Forum. That was value. Otherwise hamburger every time.

    Kebabs are a nice alternative.

  590. Marc10, 21 July, 2014

    Best of wishes matey.

  591. Habilis, 21 July, 2014

    All the best to you and yours bud.

  592. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    And you thought only Barney the Dinosaur was purple.

  593. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    This “my life as a hockey failure” shouldn’t surprise anyone. The lad was concussed often and a drinker even more often. It’s surprising he can focus enough to complete a paragraph. The insight you were looking for isn’t going to come from a never was. Ryan had a glorious chance and blew it. Habs management had a decent shot at a good to great player and blew it, too, by picking this guy. Just shows you what a crap shoot the draft is.

  594. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    The science that got man on the moon was the investment that powered the technology surge from the late 60s through to the 90s. It was neither wasteful nor socialist.

  595. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    T minus 4 days for Eller’s contract. 4 years after the trade, is it finally time for Eller to be that grinding 3rd line power center that gets about 40 points a season? Was the 30 points in that shortened season an anomaly? Will MB give him a 3 year deal broken down like this: $2mil, $2.5mil, $3mil? Or will it go to arbitration so the Habs can try to low ball him? What kind of performance can we expect from a 16 minute player who had revolving door linemates?

  596. Marc10, 21 July, 2014

    15 goals, 40 pts. Sounds about right.
    Lars just has to play that grinding style he produced in the playoffs. Do that and you don’t have to score. You’ll be such a pain to play against you will earn yourself some nice coin.

    But yeah, he’ll get low-balled by Bergie… for now.

  597. THE ABSOLUTE_TRUTH, 21 July, 2014

    IMO Eller is not worth more than 3.0 mil per year this time around. Yes he had a good playoff but he didn’t do much in the regular season having said that. I think if he had two good steady wingers he may surprise. I’m not overly impressed with him at the same time I haven’t given up on him. If he’s signed, I hope he’s gonna be worth it. Dead contracts can kill a team, we’ve been through that…

  598. Habitforming, 21 July, 2014

    I guess when he’s 28 or 29 he can move to centre?

    Crosby, Toews, Getzlaf, Spezza, MacKinnon, etc etc etc all played at center right away and it didn’t hurt them at all aside from learning their postion at the NHL level.

    I’m not suggesting Galchenyuk is the next Crosby, but he is or could have been, an elite level center if he hasn’t been stunted already.

    I don’t understand the fear of allowing him to get better before his 30th birthday. If we can put up with DD at center and have some call him “the best we have” then playing Galchenyuk at his natural position should be nothing.

  599. Kooch7800, 21 July, 2014

    He will get somewhere around 3 mill for 2 years. Good deal for both sides. Eller has to show some consistency in his game. I don’t buy the line mates excuse, Eller’s success in the playoffs was because of Eller and not his line mates. MT Had him out there in pressure situations at key points in the game cause he was playing well. I hope he can build off that playoff performance and gain some confidence. I don’t ever think he will be a number 2 centre but should be a really strong 3rd line centre who can pot 15 to 18 goals a year.

  600. HabinBurlington, 21 July, 2014

    We’ve all been thinking lots about Alex, continued best wishes and prayers.

  601. HabFab, 21 July, 2014

    And yet we still like you… go figure!

  602. THE ABSOLUTE_TRUTH, 21 July, 2014

    I do buy the line mate excuse some what but like you said for sure he has to put some consistency in his game, at the same time he never knew who he was going to be playing along side and that’s a awful way to show up for a game. I’m sure on the way to the rink he must have been thinking. I’ll probably have Gallant on L/W and Therrien on R/W with me tonight anyway if he’s resigned I hope he does better. myself if I could do better with a trade, I’d make it happen. The better the lines, the better for the overall teams confidence…

  603. Chris, 21 July, 2014

    I’ve actually loved this year’s race, so far. The only unfortunate is that Nibali is so head and shoulders above the crowd, but I’m not entirely convinced that would have been any different even with Froome in the race.

    Adding a cobblestone stage to the first week made things a lot more interesting. Two of the first 3 England stages were also not the usual sprint finishes that we see in Week 1. There have already been a couple of stages where echelons have broken out, and that is always an interesting wrinkle in a cycling race and one that forces the top riders to keep on their toes (and up front) when a heavy cross-wind is coming in.

    From a racing perspective, the first 10 stages of this year’s Tour have been the most unpredictable in recent memory. I think they will look hard at this model and perhaps reduce the emphasis on being an elite climber to make the race more interesting. When Rasmussen was leading the 2007 Tour, I think things got to a head: the emphasis on climbing had become so large that even a rather limited all-rounder like Rasmussen could win the Tour (albeit while supercharged).

  604. frontenac1, 21 July, 2014

    Been giving positive thoughts to you and your son. Hang in there amigo. All the best.

  605. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    The Lone Habfan, dressed in an old Habs jersey, jeans and cowboy boots and topped off with a 2014 playoff terrible towel fashioned into a do-rag, wanders through the center of the old town. He is striding along the familiar HIO road. Strangely, the buildings he passes are boarded up with “Closed for the Summer” notes tacked onto the padlocked doors. A tumbleweed blows along, catching a hot summer breeze. A neon sign above- “Dog Daze”- blinks on and off, the electricity running it sounding like a buzzing fly. Even the saloon is shut down. He sighs and continues on.
    Loose shutters slam shut and open again; there is no one about to fasten them.
    The dirt beneath his boots crunches like dried up old bones that were picked clean by vultures long ago, like maybe last season. He looks down the road and sees heaps of refuse piled in the street. As the Lone Habfan gets close, he realizes he is seeing all the old live blogs, threads and comments from the past season all printed out into a giant pile. Despite all the discussions and well thought out comments, another year has gone by, and still no relief from the Cup drought. He shakes his head and sighs. A little disappointed, The Lone Habfan plods on, kicking up dust in the empty Main Street, his eyes firmly set on the Fall that is sure to come. He sighs again.

  606. Un Canadien errant, 21 July, 2014

    Thanks for the info, I looked on the inside and there is a person listed as “Editor for the press: Michael Holmes”. Is that our culprit? Not sure if that title refers to someone specific, different from the run-of-the-mill editor.

    If Michael Holmes is the guy who was in charge of editing this book, he dropped the ball, it is a rather formless effort.

  607. Ian Cobb, 21 July, 2014


    Our 8th annual 2014 HIO Fan Summit is, Nov.29th weekend.

    Send today, your self addressed stamped envelope with your money order, so I can send you your tickets back!!! (Canadian stamp) Courier is best! especially from USA! I will be cut off from ordering these special HIO game tickets on the 28th day of July.
    I must receive your money order by the 28th.
    Two different summit section prices! $83ea. or $105ea.

    Send to me Ian Cobb at 63 Village Dr. Belleville Ont. K8P 4K2

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  609. JohnBellyful, 21 July, 2014

    In the distance Toronto, the Lone Habfan’s taciturn sidekick, slowly makes his way toward the dusty, somnolent town. His world-weary face is creased with wrinkles carved out by a lifetime of pain following in the footsteps of the masked man.
    His lips are parched, his nostrils achingly dry. How much longer will this Cup drought last, he asks himself, in an uncharacteristic flurry of words, before falling silent once again.
    It was no good, this life he was living, being down at his heels.
    Even if they are silver.

  610. habsgod, 21 July, 2014

    THANK-YOU GUYS SO VERY VERY MUCH ! for all your thoughts,and prayers and love every much apprieciated….alex is on a very long road to recovery he still has the blood clot in his head and the bacterial meningitis they found was called (strep) which is the worst you can get…. they said the long term prognonis is he might have permanent brain damage………. ! his progress is much better than it was he ate for the 1st time in 6 days prior he is up and cohereant…….. they said he will remain in the (calgary) alberta children’s hospital for 2 weeks then come home to regina and be in the hospital for 4-6 more weeks… i want to again thank very one from my hio family a very special thank-you my wife and i cried when we seen all the get well wishes and all the love and support alex had recieved from everyone on hear….we haven’t told alex yet and the amazing thing that ian cobb did for him by getting 2 tickets 2 that hio summit game nov 29th … wife really cried and said what a bunch of very special people on that site she told me to post regularly during the season….she said to do that for my boy who is fighting for his life and they show that much love for a little 13 yr old boy she said those people are absolutely amazing she cried tears of joy so did i guys! thank-you all so very much….

  611. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    Thanks for the update, John. All here are in your corner wishing you and your family the best.

  612. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    The wind whistles through street when they meet. It raises enough dust to cover the intrepid pair completely. They stand against a clapboard building, awaiting the wind’s convenience. When they do move on, the plastered dust leaves two silhouettes behind, mute witness to the silence about the town.
    (Enrico Morricone music fills the air)

  613. adamkennelly, 21 July, 2014

    Lets assume we get deals done w/ Eller and PK – who thinks MB is done for the off-season?

    Have they done enough?

    missing pieces?

  614. Bob_Sacamano, 21 July, 2014

    Some people here who still think we should have Desharnais on our first line while questioning if Eller is a number 2 center really make me laugh. Eller is a number 2 center and easily capable of putting up 50 points with decent linemates and pp time. If Therrien keeps playing him on the third line most of the time he´ll never convince everyone.

    Talking about a linemate excuse is ridiculous btw. Other than Crosby and a couple of others very few players in this league can produce on their own. That gets even tougher when you´re almost never on the PP. I can only imagine how bad DD would look without Pacioretty and PP time…

  615. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    Wait and see time for management. Many teams will be jettisoning players at training camp and others will be trying to juggle players and the Cap. There may be a lot of activity trade-wise between September and opening night.

  616. Max_a_million, 21 July, 2014

    I think there is a holding pattern, everyone wants to count their cards see how things play out a little. I think he is in on a player on Patrick Sharp. Chicago will need to get cap compliant. He needs to get actual numbers for Eller and PK in the books first. MB likes big moves, he’s smooth, has a relationship, and teams like to trade out of conference. He’s not looking for camp jettisoned garbage.
    Chicago will try to avoid it, and they are not in a rush.
    If he can hit a home run, I think he is in. Otherwise I think he is done. I don’t think Chicago will want Bourque, they will want more cap relief and young cheap assets in return.

    He likes cap flexibility and space to be able to trade with teams in a bind. I’m not saying it will happen, but I think this would be his play if it becomes available.

    They are very likely to add another defender. He has shown he likes defensive depth a lot.

  617. JohnBellyful, 21 July, 2014

    As they move out, the Lone Habfan suddenly stops and motions Toronto to do the same.
    The paleskin — from all the dust — stoically obliges.
    The masked man peers intently at his companion of many moons, saying nothing. Finally, he speaks:
    “What in hell does kemo sabe mean anyway? And what have you done with Silver?“

  618. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    Thanks, JB. I needed that! 😆

  619. habstrinifan, 21 July, 2014

    Thank you Habsgod for including us. I hope I put this correctly.

    I have NEVER come away with any feeling of fear or depression after reading any of your updates. You have willed away the TORMENT of this illness with your affirming outreach toward the HUMAN SPIRIT of our little community.

    There may be sadness in your thoughts, but NO FEAR! I see STRENGTH and LOVE AND GOD’S FORESIGHTFUL PROVIDENCE binding your family as you stand in resolve for Alex. I see GOD’S GRACE at work.

    Thanks for letting us into Alex’s room.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  620. DipsyDoodler, 21 July, 2014

    Trade talk time. Hey it’s either that or we debate hot dogs versus hamburgers (a false dichotomy in any case).

    Kris Letang is on the block and Montreal is one of his preferred destinations (he has a NTC).

    He earns $7.25M (the same as Dion Phaneuf).

    If you’re getting all misty eyed at a Powerplay pairing of Letang and Beaulieu, after the Markov/Subban first wave, you’re not alone.

    Who would Pittsburgh accept in return? I mean after we told them to stop leering at Brendan Gallagher in that perverted way?

    Think they’d take Tinordi and a 3rd rounder?

    Moving. Forward.

  621. Loop_Garoo, 21 July, 2014

    Seeking clarification on your assertion that this is a false dichotomy. Are you claiming in fact that Hot dogs and Hamburgers are the same thing, and therefor no choice can be made? Or are you assuming that no choice needs to be made between the two. The first option would strike me as absurd, the second one as situational and not applicable in all circumstances.

  622. Lafleurguy, 21 July, 2014

    God Bless Alex and Alex’s family.
    Don’t call me a cryer.

  623. Ian Cobb, 21 July, 2014

    Another 16 money orders with stamped self addressed envelopes arrived by courier this morning so far! Only 7 days left!

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  624. DipsyDoodler, 21 July, 2014

    Hi Ian

    Any chance you could open a paypal account?

    Takes 5 min and would make your life much easier.

    Moving. Forward.

  625. HabFab, 21 July, 2014

    Hab Top Prospects 20-16;

  626. DipsyDoodler, 21 July, 2014

    No choice needs to be made. It’s like asking which Habs dynasty you prefer, or which sex position.

    Moving. Forward.

  627. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    (Hamburgers or Sausage. Hotdogs are revolting).

    I think the Pens would primarily look for a winger+ if they moved Letang. The loss of Neal leaves a big hole there and the fact they couldn’t score during the playoffs, shows that as a primo-need.

    They also lost Orpik and Niskanen, so the ‘+’ would be NHL vet defense. I don’t see them moving Letang. I understand why they’d consider it, but I don’t think it happens. His price tag makes me want to stay away. The loss of O & N means they need him.

    BUT what I want to address is this line:
    after we told them to stop leering at Brendan Gallagher

    I wouldn’t so much as bat an eye if MB traded him. I like Gallagher. He’s a hard worker. He’s a pain in the butt. He’s a decent 2nd liner. He’s pleasant and funny, but, he is by no means an untouchable in my book. I’d flip that guy in a (DECENT) deal without much thought. In fact, I think he’s got more value (‘intangibles’) than he’s actually worth. Potential to land a bigger fish, so to speak.

    I know many here will think that this is sacrilegious to say, but it’s something that I’ve been thinking for around a year now. I like him, but I wouldn’t hesitate to include him in a trade.

  628. HabFab, 21 July, 2014

    Death to paypal… just saying!

  629. Lafleurguy, 21 July, 2014

    If this whimsy could be expanded to a trichotomy, I opt for pastrami, especially from Katz’s Deli in Brooklyn. They hung a sign pointing to where a scene from “When Harry Met Sally” was filmed. Looked like Sally put on some weight over the years.

  630. Lafleurguy, 21 July, 2014

    Ready to chime in on favourite sex dynasty.

  631. jrshabs1, 21 July, 2014

    Eklund alert!!!

    Quick hit this afternoon…

    At a family reunion, but was just texted the Habs and Sharks have had “high level discussions” regarding a “big forward” coming to Montreal…more later.

    …don’t shoot the messenger.

    Go Habs Go!!!!!

  632. Commandant, 21 July, 2014

    We are doing two summer series this year. The first is best of the rest, looking at the best players in franchise history not in the Hall of Fame.

    Anaheim – Paul Kariya

    Arizona – Keith Tkachuk

    Go Habs Go!

  633. Commandant, 21 July, 2014

    The other series is of course our annual Top Shelf series



    Go Habs Go!

  634. HabFab, 21 July, 2014

    SJ trying to unload Dave Brown after acquiring John Scott… no thanks.

  635. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    Paypal and Amazon need an alcohol filter on them.

    Seriously. Like a USB breathalyzer. After 9pm (local) you have to blow below the legal limit to make purchases (and send text messages to a ‘restricted list’).

    That Ian doesn’t have this thing set up on Paypal is the only reason I didn’t go: “Whatever, I’ve spent so much this week already, what’s another $100.00” (Which, of course, turns into another $500+ once all the “intangibles” are sorted out… hotel, beverages, rail travel & grub).

  636. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    Franson & the Leafs settle – 3.3 million for one year.

  637. Loop_Garoo, 21 July, 2014

    Thank you for the clarification. I have indeed been to BBQ’s hosted by deeply cheap individuals, that did require a choice on the subject, so in one sense it is situational. That point appears to be moot however, as I will no longer attend their BBQ’s, cheap bas*t**rds.

  638. HardHabits, 21 July, 2014

    I disagree. Teams facing cap issues must be pillaged and plundered. The same way Sather took Gainey to the woodshed with the McDonagh for Gomez deal. Take no prisoners.

    If the Pens are hard pressed against the cap then show no mercy. Letang for Moen and Budaj.

  639. Loop_Garoo, 21 July, 2014

    well that gives inside out a whole new meaning.

  640. HabFab, 21 July, 2014

    Brilliant you two… as per usual.
    However the question begs to be asked “Is Silver in those Air Canada Center Hot Dogs or not?”

  641. Timo, 21 July, 2014

    How old is Alex? (John Smidt’s son)

    Thanks in advance.

  642. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    Huzzah! (I don’t know, HH. Your post seemed to scream for it.)

  643. CHicoHab, 21 July, 2014

    Whose this big forward from the Sharks?

  644. HabFab, 21 July, 2014

    Was sent $50 once, they deposited it in the wrong account and then told me they were deducting $37 and change to cover their charges. However I could use the remaining $12+ on my next purchase. After much futile arguments on my part and to no avail, told them in detail where they could store that $12 plus. Will never use their services again.

  645. Chris, 21 July, 2014

    In honour of the 45th anniversary of the first moon landing, Cal asked where our aspiration has gone.

    My take on it, as a scientist:

    Today’s society is much more individualistic than that of the 1960’s, but perhaps more importantly lacks the political jockeying that was present in that era.

    Regarding the latter point, the moon landing was driven by the space race between the United States and the Soviet Union, each of whom were obsessed with proving that their social, political and economic systems were superior to the other’s.

    Rivalries between Russia, China, the US and the European Union are certainly important, but they don’t have the same urgency as the Cold War.

    And that leads to the second point…people are too driven by their own self-interest (tax cuts, small government, infrastructure) for such an expensive endeavour as NASA to get the kind of funding required to make a realistic go of things. This has forced NASA to become much more strategic.

    That all being said, there are a lot of things going on right now that deserve more mention. 2014 and 2015 are shaping up to be an exciting time in our understanding of the solar system:

    1. The Hubble Space Telescope, now in its 24th year of operation, has in my opinion done far more for our understanding of the cosmos than the moon landing did.

    2. We have rovers exploring the surface of Mars. One of them, Opportunity, is still operating after 10 years, far longer than was ever dreamed of, and that rover has now driven more than the lunar rovers did. The most recent mission, Curiosity, is sending back excellent data and the landing of that rover was a work of stunning scientific and engineering genius, in my opinion.

    3. The satellite New Horizons is scheduled to do a fly-by of Pluto and its moon Charon in mid-2015 before heading out into the largely unknown outer regions of our solar system.

    4. The Dawn satellite returned some excellent pictures from Vesta, and is now on its way to Ceres, scheduled to arrive in early 2015.

    5. The European Space Agency’s Rosetta satellite is scheduled to reach the comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko in just a few weeks, with the intended goal of landing on it.

    6. The James Webb Space Telescope is under construction, with an intended launch date of October 2018. (It will probably be more like 2020.) This is the last of the “big” NASA projects: its massive budget (almost $9 billion to date) has been controversial, but that is unfortunately the cost of trying to do something that ambitious. The JWST will be orbiting a stable Earth Lagrange point (technical detail…it is one of the 5 points in the solar system that orbit at the same speed around the Sun as the Earth) that is roughly 4 times further from the Earth than the Moon is.

    7. The Cassini-Huygens mission continues to return spectacular images from Saturn, including this beautiful shot taken from behind Saturn looking towards the Sun.

    8. The International Space Station continues to provide excellent space science while also allowing us to observe the effects of humans living in low-gravity, knowledge that is essential should we ever want to progress beyond the bounds of our own planet.

    If people want big scientific projects, they have to understand that these things cost money. It also helps when, as Cal points out, people realize that it isn’t just a waste of money, but that these things often lead to other improvements in our technology. This is an area where scientists need to do a far better job: we need to start talking to the general public instead of ignoring them unless we need more of their tax-derived money.

  646. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    Of PK and the Habs.

    5) If the Canadiens enter this season as they’re currently constructed, here’s a look at how they might line up:




  647. Ian Cobb, 21 July, 2014

    13 yrs old!! Timo

  648. Ian Cobb, 21 July, 2014


  649. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    Thanks, Chris. Excellent post.

  650. Ian Cobb, 21 July, 2014

    Another 16 money orders with stamped self addressed envelopes arrived by courier this morning so far! Only 7 days left!

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  651. Say Ash, 21 July, 2014

    All I understood was that Lagrange got five points.

  652. habs-fan-84, 21 July, 2014

    Great post Chris. I’m really looking forward to the testing of the new VASIMR propulsion technology on the ISS in the coming years, very exciting!

  653. bwoar, 21 July, 2014

    What’s up with everyone and Sekeac? Engels seems to have caught the same virus.

    Fabien Brunstrom?
    Damien Brunner?
    Janne Lahti anyone?
    Maybe Jan Bulis, though he doesn’t really count?

    We’ve had plenty of “mystery” Europeans come over somehow and get penciled into the 2nd line in July. They usually are in the ECHL or the Swiss league by October at the latest. Why should this time be any different?

    At least he’s got PAP in the right place.

  654. HabFab, 21 July, 2014

    Excellent Chris… thanks!

  655. bwoar, 21 July, 2014

    Really looking forward to #5. Great post.

  656. bwoar, 21 July, 2014

    Tkachuk’s name rhymes with something he can go and do to himself, forever and ever.

  657. HabFab, 21 July, 2014

    But…but… what did Eric do to poor Travis… moen!

  658. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    That’s the one that has a lot of intrigue to it. Landing on a comet is what Deep Impact and Armageddon tried to portray on the big screen. If the landing is successful, it will open up many possibilities.

  659. frontenac1, 21 July, 2014

    The Yanks have some dead aliens and their spacecraft at Area 51. Only a matter of time before they figure it all out.

  660. HardHabits, 21 July, 2014

    It will probably be this on opening night…


  661. ElMcFoldo, 21 July, 2014

    Here’s what Subban’s contract might end up looking like:
    80million over 8 years:

    This should get it done, right?

  662. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    No Galchenyuk?

  663. dr. schmutzdeker, 21 July, 2014

    …or the bundesliga.

  664. Chris, 21 July, 2014

    One that I left out was the 1977 Voyager missions. Voyager I became the first spacecraft to leave our solar system in 2012, and Voyager II will do so in 2016. The fact that we are still getting some data back from both satellites 37 years after their launch is amazing.

  665. Cal, 21 July, 2014

    He’s being sarcastic. At least, I think so.

  666. bwoar, 21 July, 2014

    Nope, it’s centre or pressbox for him. Tough love!

  667. Timo, 21 July, 2014

    Thanks Ian.

  668. Cal, 21 July, 2014


  669. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    The throw in chip that sealed the PK (+ Galchenyuk) for Letang (and a 5th) deal.

  670. Walmyr, 21 July, 2014

    14th forward???…(behind Jiri “cakes” Sekac…)

  671. on2ndthought, 21 July, 2014

    That video shows a man among boys. He is cool and has vision with the puck, smart without it. We can expect a few turnovers at the beginning of the season, as he adjusts to the speed of the game; but I like him on the second line. I had him penciled in on the third line, as PAP is less defensively aware. Of course, MT doesn’t listen to me any better than my teenagers.

    “a cannonading drive”

  672. HardHabits, 21 July, 2014

    Hehe. I need to eat more Wheaties…. What a glaring omission. Too much “System” on the brain.

  673. on2ndthought, 21 July, 2014

    “a cannonading drive”

  674. on2ndthought, 21 July, 2014

    oops, meant to hit ‘older posts’ for update from Habsgod.

    “a cannonading drive”

  675. Walmyr, 21 July, 2014

    Engels is doing the same thing we are: creating line combos during summer…

    I read some good reviews about “cakeS” Sekac but I think we will have a good (better) idea of his potential when the preseason starts…

    PS.: I like the idea of be optimistic about this Sekac kid.


  676. Luke, 21 July, 2014


    They sound delicious.
    Probably have a nice bit of fresh summer fieldberry compote on top.
    Served with a cappuccino or a nice glass late harvest wine.

  677. CH Marshall, 21 July, 2014

    the Breezer’s stubble is all I see now…. please new thread soon

  678. Lafleurguy, 21 July, 2014

    With traditional or no-touch icing depending on the score.

  679. Lafleurguy, 21 July, 2014

    you woke up

  680. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    This mid-July nothing thread is going to be the one to break the Ryan White Threshold.

    You have to hope for an Eller or PK signing, either that or get ready to talk about pizza toppings, worm farming and how much I dislike Eric Clapton.

    Only 2800 (and change) more posts to go…

  681. DipsyDoodler, 21 July, 2014

    I just had a nice stroll down St.Laurent blvd. after having done some business there. Summer is great.

    I was reminded of our discussion re: the naming of the Ottawa Redblacks after walking past Cinema L’Amour.

    Has anyone noticed how prosaic and pedestrian the titles of porn movies have become? Gone are the witty plays on words and double entendres of the 90s. Now every title is a matter-of-fact description of the (1) sex act (2) age and ethnicity of the participants and (3) volume number in the collector’s edition ( I was surprised, as you will all be, to learn that “European Semen Swap” is now at Volume 7 ).

    Anyway, have we signed a goon yet?

    Moving. Forward.

  682. johnnylarue, 21 July, 2014

    I’m with you, man–the only thing worse than pineapple on a pizza is Clapton on the radio*!

    (*exception made for Layla, which is admittedly a good song.)

    Edit: Oh wait, you mean you DON’T want to talk about this again?)

  683. DipsyDoodler, 21 July, 2014

    Let’s talk pizza!

    Moving. Forward.

  684. DipsyDoodler, 21 July, 2014

    Two words.



    Moving. Forward.

  685. dr. schmutzdeker, 21 July, 2014

    Yo…the Depends musta just soaked through.

  686. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    I’ll make an exception for Cream songs (specifically White Room).

    (and I like pineapple on my pizza).

  687. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    I had pizza for lunch today!
    and yesterday!
    and dinner on Saturday!
    and lunch tomorrow (probably)!

  688. DipsyDoodler, 21 July, 2014

    Is that that new diet fad?

    Moving. Forward.

  689. joeybarrie, 21 July, 2014

    10 million a season?

  690. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    Yah, The Lazy Single Dude diet. (patent pending).
    I switched it up and had wine instead of beer yesterday.
    But that was Sunday. I’m classy like that.

  691. Luke, 21 July, 2014


  692. SmartDog, 21 July, 2014

    Any books to recommend?

    1. I’m reading the Harry Bosche books (Michael Connelly) from the start. I think there are about 10. He’s a fantastic character. Well written and clever stuff. I’m gonna be sad when it’s over.

    2. Other books I would recommend for great summer reads:
    – Sandman Slim
    – Enders’ Shadow
    – One Second After

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  693. DipsyDoodler, 21 July, 2014

    Not the Terry Ryan one.

    Moving. Forward.

  694. mdp2011, 21 July, 2014

    Hey, some actual news.

    Canadiens Montréal ‏@CanadiensMTL 4m
    Canadiens sign first round pick Nikita Scherbak (@nikscherbak) to a three-year contract. DETAILS->

  695. mdp2011, 21 July, 2014

    Also, here is a link to Elliot Friedman’s 30 thoughts.

  696. Luke, 21 July, 2014

    I’m reading the “Lies of Locke Lamora” by Scott Lynch (actually I’m on book two).

    I love fantasy genre stuff, this one really surprised me. Bought it on a whim and was hooked.

  697. Old Bald Bird, 21 July, 2014

    Wouldn’t it be great if we hit a homerun with this guy? He does look promising. (Sorry about the baseball term to talk hockey.)

  698. bwoar, 21 July, 2014

    So, Hamilton next year? Why else rush the ELC?

  699. bwoar, 21 July, 2014

    Reading Charlie Stross’ new Laundry novel, The Rhesus Chart.

    Complete fun-times reading, totally nowhere near as serious as his more high-powered & sorta brainy sci-fi stuff. Read Accelerando by the same author if you want something a bit deeper. He’s a go-to guy, never writes a bad book.

  700. bwoar, 21 July, 2014

    True enough. I don’t usually read Engels, I get the same level of analysis right here. Not a dig, just, he’s obviously a fan more than an analyst. Arpon Basu is in the same boat at the other end.

    Love your enthusiasm all the same.

  701. plum, 21 July, 2014

    The Hockey Sweater by Roch Carrier!!!

    The Wheel of Time series is an all time favourite of mine. A Song of Ice and Fire is also fantastic.

    Recently I’ve been reading a lot of Brandon Sanderson. If you’re into the fantasy genre like myself, then I would definitely recommend the Mistborn series, or The Way of Kings and Words of Radiance.

  702. GrimJim, 21 July, 2014

    I don’t think he’s eligible to play in the AHL next season. Besides they signed McCarron last summer and Fucale last fall then sent both back to juniors, so it doesn’t mean he’s ready to move up per se.

  703. mark-ID, 21 July, 2014

    new thread

    “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

  704. tryan91, 15 April, 2015

    Unfortunately “Un Canadien errant” wasn’t a fan of my book, so I thought I’d present some more reviews – because it is worth noting it was generally well received critically. It seems to me, he/she may not have liked it because it wasn’t exactly what they wanted to read – for example, I didn’t elaborate on “the elevator” because it wasn’t written in my journals. At the time, it was funny but beyond that there were more important things I wanted to document. Many Habs fans want answers, dammit, and they want them NOW! Truth is, it is a book about a kid growing up. I loved my time in MTL and still cherish the memory. But it was never, ever , meant to be more than one of the many themes touched on. And yes, it was edited, but they gave me a long leash – and I wanted it to sound like you were talking to me, rather than some suit.

    Oh, and Dave Bidini from the National Post gave it Book of the Year as well – he’s a very respected writer. Point being, there are many opinions, (it seems the book I wrote is polarizing if nothing else), but may be worth a read lol. Cheers

  705. tryan91, 15 April, 2015

    Unfortunately “Un Canadien errant” wasn’t a fan of my book, so I thought I’d present some more reviews – because it is worth noting it was generally well received critically. It seems to me, he/she may not have liked it because it wasn’t exactly what they wanted to read – for example, I didn’t elaborate on “the elevator” because it wasn’t written in my journals. At the time, it was funny but beyond that there were more important things I wanted to document. Many Habs fans want answers, dammit, and they want them NOW! Truth is, it is a book about a kid growing up. I loved my time in MTL and still cherish the memory. But it was never, ever , meant to be more than one of the many themes touched on. And yes, it was edited, but they gave me a long leash – and I wanted it to sound like you were talking to me, rather than some suit.

    Oh, and Dave Bidini from the National Post gave it Book of the Year as well – he’s a very respected writer. Point being, there are many opinions, (it seems the book I wrote is polarizing if nothing else), but may be worth a read lol. Cheers

  706. tryan91, 15 April, 2015

    Unfortunately “Un Canadien errant” wasn’t a fan of my book, so I thought I’d present some more reviews – because it is worth noting it was generally well received critically. It seems to me, he/she may not have liked it because it wasn’t exactly what they wanted to read – for example, I didn’t elaborate on “the elevator” because it wasn’t written in my journals. At the time, it was funny but beyond that there were more important things I wanted to document. Many Habs fans want answers, dammit, and they want them NOW! Truth is, it is a book about a kid growing up. I loved my time in MTL and still cherish the memory. But it was never, ever , meant to be more than one of the many themes touched on. And yes, it was edited, but they gave me a long leash – and I wanted it to sound like you were talking to me, rather than some suit.

    Oh, and Dave Bidini from the National Post gave it Book of the Year as well – he’s a very respected writer. Point being, there are many opinions, (it seems the book I wrote is polarizing if nothing else), but may be worth a read lol. Cheers

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