Brière takes Desharnais’s spot at practice

Following Sunday’s 4-2 victory over the New York Islanders, the Canadiens returned to the ice Monday morning for a practice in Brossard.

Daniel Brière, who has been sidelined with a concussion, was skating on a line with Michael Bournival and Rene Bourque, while David Desharnais was demoted to a fourth-line rotation with Ryan White, Gabriel Dumont and George Parros. Desharnais, in the first season of a four-year, $14-million contract, has only one assist in 17 games, with only 17 shots on goal and is minus-2.

Brière could return to the lineup Tuesday when the Canadiens face the Tampa Bay Lightning at the Bell Centre (7:30 p.m., RDS, TSN Radio 690). A decision will be made following Tuesday’s morning skate.

Alexei Emelin was in New York to visit with a doctor Monday to check on his knee, which underwent reconstructive surgery last season. Emelin has said he is 100-per-cent healthy and after practice coach Michel Therrien told reporters the club had been in touch with the doctor and that the defenceman could be back in the lineup on the weekend.

After facing the Lightning on Tuesday, the Canadiens will visit the Blue Jackets in Columbus Friday night and then play host to the New York Rangers Saturday night at the Bell Centre.

Douglas Murray took a therapy day Monday and Travis Moen, who is battling the flu, also didn’t practise.

Carey Price will start in goal against the Lighting. Price has a 7-7-1 record with a 2.20 goals-against average and a .929 save percentage. His save percentage ranks ninth in the NHL, while his GAA ranks 14th.

Meanwhile, Max Pacioretty was among the Canadiens players upset by a tweet from new Montreal mayor Denis Coderre during Sunday’s game against the Islanders. Tweeted Coderre: “Hello? Can we get a one-way ticket to Hamilton for David Desharnais please…”

“I’m very, very upset about that,” Pacioretty told reporters after Monday’s practice. “What, do you think he’s gonna coach our team tomorrow? That’s embarrassing…

“To bring down a player — such a great person, such a great player, such a hard worker … Davey’s a true competitor and he’s a great player and a great teammate, and that’s just so uncalled for… It’s only going to make matters worse.”

Here’s how the lines and defence pairings looked at Monday’s practice:

Desharnais -White-Parros-Dumont


(Photo by Allen McInnis/The Gazette)

Reinforcements on the way for Habs, By Brenda Branswell

Three games in five days for Habs,

Post-practice locker-room video,

Even Denis Coderre wants to dump Desharnais, by Dave Stubbs

New Montreal mayor has public tiff with Habs,

Power-play goal lifts Habs over Islanders, by Pat Hickey

Kid Line bags eight points against Islanders, by Pat Hickey

Reunited line adds punch to Habs,

Canadiens vs. Islanders photo gallery,

Chelios followed friend’s dream to Hall of Fame,

Lightning’s Stamkos leaves game on stretcher,


  1. DipsyDoodler says:

    Another dumb H I/O meme is that the coach “rewards” players with ice time. The coach – I think – tries to win games. This one and the next few. And hopefully as many as possible. I’m fairly sure he chooses his lines on that basis.

    (It dovetails with this new obsession with ice time, a really silly stat to obsess over. )

    So if he puts DD with Max on the late powerplay (with the game out of reach) he probably isn’t “rewarding” anyone, but trying to get a couple of players their confidence back, at no risk.

    Then there’s the odd Subban not getting any PK time obsession -as though that were a punishment. PK not playing on the PK means he spends relatively more time on the ice when we have a chance to score. Somehow Therrien hates PK so he doesn’t play him on the penalty kill? But he plays him for almost every minute of powerplay time? Is that how you would ruin someone’s career?

  2. Steeltown Hab says:

    The Mayor weighing in on Desharnais is obviously a classless move but an indication of what a joke this has become at this point.

    I think most of us just feel bad for Desharnais at this point as a person, but it’s the organizations fault for handing him everything in terms of linemates, PP time, and rewarding him wayyy early and unneccesarily with that deal.


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  3. scotland says:

    agree with eddie on that. players like white are hesitant tp play that way. white was not worried about taking penalties here in hamilton. and he had a leadership presence because of it. whites first nhl game was against the bruins. boychuck took a run at pk and just missed him. whites gloves were off in a second and he won the fight with boychuck. His teammates including pk were grateful for his efforts. Habs were lacking that. White did same thing in buffalo last season when a sabre took a run at gionta. Sabres scored on pp and white got ripped by his coach to the media “he cost us the game” and was out of the line up for an extended time. If therrien thinks this team is gonna win with the egg line, gionta plekanic (and a revolving winger) as the 1 – 2 lines ….playing safe no penalty offence he is sorryly mistaken……and like like the sens did to them in five play off games ….opposition will just physically pound this team.

    prust was a welcomed addition in that category, unfortunately out of the line by getting injured 3 times is 60 games (less than a season) his bad shoulder combined with his style does not look good for the habs.

    btw….gionta pleks pax line looks terrible. no brainer. bournival should have stayed with the pleks and gionta…….let pax, dd and bourque work it out together.

    therrien over coaches like nobody i have ever seen

  4. Max_a_million says:

    I can’t be visiting this site at work if the commercials are going to make noise the second you open it. For goodness sake stick something in front of the reading for a few seconds. Anything that doesn’t make noise. leaving my computer on mute is not an option.

  5. Maritime Ronn says:

    Apart from Stamkos, it appears Top 4 Dman Sami Salo is also out tonight hurt in the Boston game.
    Another blow as he is the teams PP QB and plays 2nd Unit PK also.

  6. Stevie.Ray says:

    Two years ago, I remember telling some friends why Desharnais was playing so well. I remember saying, “he never gets knocked off the puck. If it’s on his stick he may get pushed around, but it’s impossible to steal the puck from him. And when he goes into the corner or is fighting for a loose puck, for a guy his size it’s impressive how often he is able to come away with it. He plays smart hockey, not big hockey.”

    But now, he just doesn’t win those puck battles anymore. No matter how hard he tries.

    • Gerry H says:

      Absolutely right, SRV. He had an uncanny tenacity combined with balance that made the guy a warrior, especially along the boards. Now, that seems to be his weakest point. I heard that he changed his training regimen to get leaner this summer. He dropped about ten pounds in the hope of being quicker and more explosive. Perhaps that is what backfired.

      • Just a Habs Fan says:

        That was before the other teams noticed he could be pushed down with ease if they leaned on him….he is done as a player with impact on the Habs or any other team……watch how players just push him off the puck….listen to be 5 ft 6-7 and weigh 165 and have a D man weighing 200 or much more is a real problem.

    • Phil C says:

      His hockey sense was also off-the-charts good in the past. He would always be in the right spot or he would would be anticipating the play so well that he would get a step on everyone. Last game, he was the opposite of that, a 1/2 second late to the puck all the time and looking lost without it.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      There is also a chance he was an unknown entity back then and during his good season, few teams took the Habs seriously as they finished last in the Conference and 28th overall.

      I don’t believe his downfall had much to do with the contract or Cole leaving, but more about teams getting to better know him and realising that some physicality basically neutralized him.

      It’s pretty basic.
      Desharnais has a very high hockey IQ and vision, is an average skater, and has a below average shot if any at all.
      Neutralize him by playing physical and cut off his passing lanes.
      He brings nothing else.

  7. Stamkos done! He’s talents would have been great in Sochi. Horrible news.

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  8. sweetmad says:

    Reading peoples thoughts on Markov,he is going nowhere,he will never play for another team,he will retire first.When his last contract was up he told his agent,he didn’t care what it took just to get it done,I don’t think he has changed his mind since then,he might go back to Russia,but I don’t he will play for another NHL team.

  9. Eddie says:

    Playing on the edge, nasty, in your face hockey, is what will confront us as we try to compete against Boston, Toronto, Ottawa, and win a playoff spot.

    Yet, our big players do not play that way for the most part?

    Guys like White, Bourque, Moen, could be much more aggressive, but they’re not.

    Why not?

    I say they are concerned about penalties. And that comes from the coach. Take penalties and you are reprimanded by old school coaches who favor discipline over nastiness.

    Let them take the penalties and we will beat them on the power play, is a favourite talking point here, and it’s definitely coached in the Habs room.

    Why do we win with Prust in the lineup playing aggressive hockey?

    Ask yourself that question.

    Maybe if our penalty kill is one of our great strengths, we can afford to let White, Moen, Bourque, play much less cautiously?
    We will take a few more penalties, but we might find that we compete better against the tougher teams as well.

    I know we can beat the Islanders, but what about the teams directly in our way of a playoff spot? How will we beat them?


    • HabinBurlington says:

      There is also that old adage of a good penalty, one which the team doesn’t mind working hard to kill. If our boys are playing that agressive style you are talking about Ed, I think the players may view those as good penalties to kill.

      It’s a fine line no doubt, and also when a team starts playing a certain way, it almost becomes accepted. The Bruins for example, I think get away with a great deal of after the whistle behaviour due to its regularity. I wouldn’t want us to become a “dirty” team, but a team standing up for each other has its merits.

      • Eddie says:

        I agree with all of that. You play more on the edge, the refs expect you to play that way. That’s absolutely true whenever we play the Bruins, and starting to be true when we play the other aggressive teams.

        The key question for me was:

        What makes Prust such a valuable player on this team, and what can we do to bring more of what he brings to the lineup?

        Does Prust’s aggression work in our favor, because it forces other teams to take notice, slowing down their physical game, neutralizing it?

        Isn’t that at least part of it?

        And our players react with confidence, they rally behind Prust, and they get a jump in their step?

        It seems to me we need more of this, and it becomes obvious when Prust is out of the lineup

    • third generation haber says:

      Good point about the tough teams we won’t be able to handle. I think if we were situated in a non-hockey hotbed, our GM would be tempted to trade our vets, tank, and draft as high as possible this year.

      j.p. murray

    • Phil C says:

      The Habs could play more physically at times no question, but they have to be careful not to get sucked into the other team’s game. Pittsburgh tried to show Boston how tough they were in their playoff series. They did show them, and then Boston showed them the door out of the playoffs.

      The Habs need to rely on their team speed and puck movement to beat these teams, as this is their strength. But they will also need more net presence. Those three teams have amazing goaltending who will stop almost all the pucks they can see, so you need more greasy goals to beat them. More screens, deflections, and rebounds.

      Prust helps neutralize a lot of the crap that goes on. It helps that he can also play meaningful minutes. I’m not sure his physical play directly makes a big difference, but now that you’ve pointed it out, I will look for that when he is back.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      “Why do we win with Prust in the lineup playing aggressive hockey?”

      Same reason we win with Prust out of the lineup: Price, Subban, Markov, Gallagher, Plekanec etc …

      I like Prust but I don’t think playing the Sens or Leafs style helps us. Look at the times we tried that last year.

  10. habsguru says:

    i breifly caught the replay, and it looked like a basic tie up. was there any grease on the play?

  11. DipsyDoodler says:

    OK I just realized adblock won’t remove the automatic NHL highlights.

    The extension you need is flashblock.

  12. ffenliv says:

    As a person with exceedingly expensive internet, with a tiny monthly cap (10gb), that auto-play video is a killer. Can we please have that taken away? Please?!

  13. mksness says:

    habs could totally get yakopov in a one for one deal for out goalie coach.

  14. HabinBurlington says:

    So the Habs catch a break playing the Lightning without Stamkos right? Perhaps, but quite often when a team suffers a loss like Tampa did yesterday, there can be a wounded bear affect. The Habs cannot take Tampa lightly tonight, there will probably be a rallying cry in that dressing room tonight. Eventually the loss of Stamkos will take its toll, and I think Tampa will start to lose more than they win, but tonight we play the wounded bear, yesterday the Bruins poked him, tonight we have fight him.

    Hope the boys don’t have any let up.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      hi burli

      That’s a big 20 minutes to fill including some secondary PK time and PP leader.
      Each center has to move up a notch and most will be way out of position or ability.
      Playing against centers a top 9 set of intimidating guys like Stamkos-Fillpula-John$on is one thing, a somewhat easier task against the 3 centers of Fillpula-John$on-Thomson.

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      First – Stamkos is one of my fav players, and a big draw at every arena. No fan shoud be happy to see this superstar go down with such a brutal injury.

      Second – I checked the Habs schedule up to the Olympic break, we play Tampa Bay 3 times. We need to make the most of these games as there is only one Hab killer left to worry about and Marty wil be unabe to carry the team on his own.

      Habs need a stretch of good health to move up, if so; and if we were to win all three TB games mentioned,we might see the current standings reversed.

    • Cal says:

      Hey Burly,
      Is Gentleman Jim no longer posting?

    • JF says:

      I’ve been thinking the exact same thing. When a team loses one of their stars, they rally for a time. The Lightning will be tough tonight, although, as you say, I think they’ll eventually start losing more. But two of their defencemen were also injured yesterday, I’m not sure how seriously. That could be too much for them to deal with.

  15. SmartDog says:

    Thanks largely to the “French Connection” of DD and DB, we now have the most expensive and most useless bottom 6 in the league.

    It really sucks that even while some things are going very well – our youth is great, Price is playing well – team management continues to screw up.

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Maritime Ronn says:


      It may be a little too early to give up on Briere.
      From the get go, he didn’t look right and there was talk of a groin issue.

      He only has 8 games under his belt and has already played with numerous different centres and wingers.

      Both Desharnais (awful choice of a combo) and Eller have been his centre, and the wingers have included Max, Bourque, Prust.
      Being bounced around lines on a new team with a new system and coach is never easy.

      Hopefully, he can find something playing with buzz saw Bournival and Bourque. If they can open up some room and get him some time and space, Briere knows how to put the puck in the net.
      At least Habs fans have to hope for that…

      • SmartDog says:

        I have a slight glimmer of hope that seeing him at center will make a (mildly positive) difference. But every expert I’ve heard says he’s done 5-on-5…. which is really discouraging because his role on the PP doesn’t seem to be outstanding or necessary.

        I can’t get past the idea that he’s just Gomez-lite. Not as terrible as Gomez, not as costly. But still dead weight from a stupid move. Hope I’m wrong… but sadly, when I give up on a guy, I’m usually right.

        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

      • third generation haber says:

        I have to agree with S-dog,

        Regardless of line combos, Briere hasn’t been an effective player since the 2010-11 season. He’s 36, he’s not going to suddenly improve. Would u offer him 4 mil. per season? He’s also soft, and he signed with one of the softest teams in hockey. I can’t think of a worse fit.

        j.p. murray

      • Just a Habs Fan says:

        The whole concept of someone playing hurt enough that it compromises their ability to the extent that they are absolutely ineffective seems foolish to me…why does a management team play someone who is hurt…especially a groin injury that would certainly stand to be hurt even more with the pace of the game and strains. MR I enjoy your posts but for the world I can’t fathom Briere having a groin injury and playing with the hope he will impact the game in a positive way. I doubt very much he was hurt and I very much doubt he will be an impact player on this team or any other team. His days are behind him…….he was a roll of the dice by MB…..bad bad siging. I will be so happy if I am wrong.

        • Maritime Ronn says:


          Guys are always playing with nicks and hurts…and I would not bet that Briere will have a big impact, yet if he could replace the goals scored last year by Ryder, that could help things along.
          By the way, did not agree with that signing

    • wjc says:

      Slow down ‘Rover’ season is young. If it were a book it would be the first chapter. If it were a trip you would still be in the air. If it were ‘Christmas’ shopping you would still have 49 days left.

      If it were a party the introductions would still be taking place. If it were a haircut you would look stupid if you quit cutting now. If it were a meal you would still be studying the menu.

      Get the drift, now go lay down, you silly dog.


  16. Maritime Ronn says:

    Regardless of poor performance by the player in question, it was nice to see team mates Pacioretty and Josh Gorges sticking up for their team mate after the Mayor’s tweet about a 1 way ticket to Hamilton.

    That being mentioned, it does not camouflage the fact that the Habs overall bottom 6 have not been very good to date.

    White, Moen, Desharnais, and all the others that have played bottom 6 have not contributed 1 single goal.

    If you subtract the empty netter and only goal scored by Briere and consider Bourque played several Top 6 minutes, the 10 players that have played bottom 6 have yet to score a goal – that is a total of 77 man games by those 10 players.

    More problematic is that these same 10 are a collective Minus-11, while the Habs Top 6 that have played most games are a combined Plus + 14.

    For the Habs to excel, they need the bottom 6 to either score once in awhile or play good D and keep the puck out of the net.
    That just may end up being the deciding factor for a playoff berth.

    • Cal says:

      Playing the 4th line about 10 minutes + per game could be the answer. White played great the other night and was rewarded with a whole 8 minutes, while DD had 15 mins +.
      When your 4th line sees rare ice, they play like it.

    • wjc says:

      All those numbers are annoying. I like to recall the good ole days, when they said ‘Beliveau just doesn’t look right, hope he gets going.

      Not….fire Blake, get rid of Selke, trade this, sell that, trade him while he still has value.

      Question alert???????? If you a player retires after a long career with the team you cheer for, should they have traded him while he still had value????????????


    • wjc says:

      For the ‘Habs’ to excell you need everyone with the same focus. You need players to know their roll and perform it well. If I guy is in a slump he needs to contribute in other ways.

      If a player is a tough guy you need to give him a role that he can handle, not just fighting….perhaps the penalty kill and let him grow into that role.

      You cannot sit players on the bench and then say “sic him”. He will become disallusioned and cynical and not part of the group.


  17. Lafleurguy says:

    Chubby mayor to King of chubby mayors:
    He also encouraged embattled Toronto mayor Rob Ford last week to switch to “Diet Coke.” Diet Crack?
    “May you live in interesting times.”

  18. Maritime Ronn says:

    Let the Nail Yakupov trade rumours begin.

    It appears Yakupov’s agent Igor Larinov is on his way to Edmonton to read the riot act to the Oilers coaching and management.
    Larinov basically stated that if the Oilers are not happy with Nail, then they would be open to a trade.

    Poor Dallas Eakins.
    He said that Yakupov isn’t going anywhere and compared his early struggles to Stephen Stamkos.
    If Eakins would have taken a moment to check, Stamkos never had any struggles.
    As an 18 year old rookie, Stamkos has 23 goals and 46 points followed by a 51 goal year and 95 points.

    Eakins May be finding out that it’s one thing to publicly berate AHL players as he did with Kadri and others in his Leafs time, yet a whole different story dealing with young millionaires already in the NHL.

    While Eller’s words may have been badly timed, he was absolutely right.

    • Cal says:

      Got that right. A sniper like that for Diaz ++? Never gonna happen. Florida may be the destination, especially with Tallon looking to continue to retool.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Hi cal

        I don’t believe the Habs are a good trading partner. The Habs don’t have what the Oilers need, or lack the depth on the back end to pay the price needed.

        • savethepuck says:

          The kid strikes me as someone who just wants to score goals and doesn’t care about anything else. I’m possibly guilty of speculating due to what the media has been feeding me, but if that is the case, I’m definitely not interested.

          “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
          Carey Price

          • chemic says:

            if its the chase that Markov want to squezze every bit possible out of a new contract, i would not be upset if we trade for Yakupov straight up. Edmonton could use a guy like Markov. expect to get Yak by trading Diaz with assets is too much NHL14 Armchair Mode

            dont get me wrong, i would love to see Markov retire as a hab but if he wants a multiyear contract with huge numbers, we should not sign him, it would only hurt the capsituation.

        • DipsyDoodler says:

          Actually the Habs do have what the Oilers need, but you can’t really trade a clue.

          • Maritime Ronn says:


            What do you believe the Habs have that the Oilers want?

            D prospects? The Oilers have a ton of that.
            Markov? His is a pending UFA and also has a MTC which surely states Edmonton as one of those teams.

            If the Oilers ever put Nail up for trade, the price would be huge such as a Top 2-3 Dman + picks/other prospects.

          • New says:

            That was funny.

    • wjc says:

      ‘Read the riot act’ not likely. Atkins is trying to light a fire under Yakupov. Nothing new here.

      If Yakupov is as good as Stamkos, then he should be putting up the numbers. Sometimes a push is what is needed. The room may be quietly applauding the tough love approach.

      You get the dough, you accept the heat, it will blow over.


  19. matt jordan says:

    Please take down the automatic video hockeyinsideout. Never has this site been worse because of it.

  20. Un Canadien errant says:

    The city of Glendale, AZ isn’t just at odds with the NHL and the Renaissance group and the succession of carpetbaggers who tried and tried and eventually succeeded in getting the taxpayers to finance their acquisition of the team. They’re also feuding with the NFL over various issues relative to the 2015 Super Bowl. Apparently, the game itself will be in Glendale, but a lot of the parties and activities relative to it will be held in Phoenix proper.

    One item in this article that is noteworthy is how the Cardinals put in a bid for the management contract of the Glendale arena, but weren’t successful. In fact, the management contract, which has the city paying the owners of the Coyotes to run the facility, never went out to tender, it was just given to the new owners of the NHL team. Which makes one wonder just how much of a headache is this management gig, how onerous is it, or was it just another plum the NHL extorted from the taxpayers.

    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons

    • wjc says:

      NHL teams pay taxes, ticket purchases are all taxed, concessions are taxed. Having a team causes a tax windfall. So to encourage them to put a team in, tax breaks are given initially, with an eye on getting a pay back.

      Just follow the money and the answers will become clear.


    • montreal ace says:

      UCE I enjoyed both your posts this morning, both are great reading. Concerning the Coyotes, a plum and the new owners, the management gig is where the money will be made. I don’t believe that anybody gets into hockey to lose money. I think that teams that are losing money in non hockey markets, make up for it by favourable arena contracts, that enables them to see a profit.

  21. Un Canadien errant says:

    24 CH, 2013-14 season, Episode 3: Notes

    1:00 min Good brief overview of what the team needs to bring along on a road trip (over 2000 kg of gear, plus personal luggage), along with the staff who take care of it. I sometimes wondered about that, if ever a player’s skates or stick gets left behind, what do they do if that happens? I wonder because it’s often happened to me: “Where the heck is my jockstrap”, or “Crap, I left my elbow pads on the furnace ducts!”, as I rooted through my hockey bag once at the arena, minutes before the game.

    As usual, being organized, having everything in standalone kits, with a place for everything and everything in its place in a bin, with a checklist you can go over when you’re packing/leaving, is the way the staff deal with this issue.

    We see players selecting their sticks for the West Coast trip, and that’s another one I thought about: if you break all your sticks by the time you hit Vancouver, do you go to Cyclone Taylor’s to stock up, or is there a factory rep or supplier guy you call and he overnights you more sticks? Probably the latter, but I like to imagine Sidney Crosby and Kris Letang trying out sticks in the shop (“No, the Chara stick won’t work for me, even if we cut it down…”), with kids and customers standing by, agog.

    2:30 Peter Budaj seems like a good team guy. Last episode he spoke to the camera about Alexei Emelin’s punishing rehab schedule and workout habits, singing his praises. Now he’s pumping Lars Eller’s tires, proclaiming his status as the NHL’s 2nd Star of the Week. When he was acquired, it was explained that he was a good team guy, a good backup goalie who’ll know his role. That was a little nebulous, but now we see it in action, in this series. He seems to have a good rapport with Carey, always discussing situations that crop up or saves he had to make, and seems to be a popular teammate.

    2:40 A few of the boys shirtless in the plane. Apparently they have to wear a jacket and collared shirt when travelling, but can dress down to get comfortable while on the plane. Kind of weird to show this, but I’m sure the ladies won’t complain.

    We saw this last season, when the boys stole and hid Alex’s and Brendan’s shirts while they were asleep on the plane, and they had to parade around shirtless after landing in Florida.

    3:00 P.K. and Carey playing video games. It looks like they have the kickin’ setup, a video console self-contained in a travel hard case. Kids with money, I tell ya…

    3:30 Segment showing René Bourque’s hometown of Lac La Biche, Alberta. We see the humble rink he used to play on, René says they used to play on the lake too, which is always fun, because there are no boards and you can skate away from danger and stickhandle until your checker gets tired and returns to the area you kind of set out for the game, and you skate lazily back and try to figure out how to get back in.

    Anyway, this is one of the most appealing features of the 24CH series, when they show a player’s family and his background. Great stuff. We kind of forget that René is a Native Canadian, his humble beginnings, how he was never drafted but has carved out a nice career for himself. It’s great to get to know him a little better, hopefully it humanizes him in most people’s eyes, and will dull the urge for some to dismiss him as overpaid or nothing more than tradebait.

    7:15 The infamous Michel Therrien dressing down of P.K. Subban. Both he and Josh Gorges get called in to the video room between the first and second periods and shown some sequences where they didn’t shine.

    Last season, we saw P.K. get similarly pulled into the video room by coaches Therrien and Daigneault, and be told, clearly, that in that situation captured on the screen, he was better off playing the puck rather than going for the big hit. The instruction made sense to P.K. and he understood and agreed with the direction he was being given.

    In this instance though, we see the cerebral P.K. being confused by contradictory or vague instructions, and ask a question for clarification. He and I are not given that though, Michel Therrien interrupts and snaps at him and tells him to get his head in the game and get in gear, which is all fine and good, but doesn’t address the specific issue he tried to address with P.K., and which the latter tried to elucidate.

    So again, coaches nowadays have great tools like video to get their point across, but the best one is always going to be communication, clear, concise, and honest. In this case, Michel Therrien doesn’t hit it out of the park, but in the grand scheme, it isn’t the great cause for concern that it has been turned into in the media since. Coaches get impatient and bark, that’s in their nature, and the incident appears to roll off P.K.’s back, he’s seen worse before. If a player faints when a coach growls, he won’t last long. Further evidence that it didn’t bother him too much (or humiliate him, as has been contended by others) is that for the producers of the documentary to include this clip on the show, they had to get P.K.’s assent, which he granted. No big deal then, and it’s not the first tempest in a teapot for the Canadiens this season, nor will it be the last.

    10:15 We’ve covered in the past how Michel Therrien isn’t the best public speaker, in either official language, reminiscent in this of Jean Chrétien ( Both seem really rough when giving a speech, but seem to have a personal warmth and sense of humour that allows them to lead. In this segment, we see Michel Therrien use a different method of getting his point across, other than just talking. He breaks out the dry-erase board and gets all the recent scorers to come up to the front of the room and mark from where on the rink they potted their goal. The point of the exercise is clear, that most goals are scored near the net and that players should act accordingly.

    I’m not a booster of Michel Therrien, but this is an interesting teaching technique he uses. If you keep repeating the same things over and over again, the message gets lost, people tune you out, even if you have a valid point. By using a different way of getting his point across, he maximizes the effect.

    People variously exhibit three learning styles: analytical, observational and experiential. That is, people can learn by reading or being told something and thinking about it and internalizing it, or by watching someone else do something and replicating the gesture or behaviour, and by plain doing things, to practice them and perfect them. Nobody learns strictly using one style, and no two individuals are the same. Some will be more brainy and want to understand something before trying it, while others will chafe or go off into dreamland while being lectured to, anxious for the chin-wagging to stop and eager to get going and learn hands-on. A good teacher or coach will know this, know that their lesson plan needs to cater to all three learning styles, and that different pupils will respond differently.

    In this instance, instead of just parroting again to his charges that they need to “pay the price, get in the dirty areas, drive the net”, he gets the players involved in the lesson and targets a different learning style. So, good job by the coaching staff here.

    10:45 Can’t help but notice that the Canadiens have brought with them on the road a carpet with the blessed CH logo on it. The one that no one is supposed to walk on. What a great inconvenience for everyone. Let’s reduce the useful floor space in the already cramped visitors’ dressing room by 24 square feet. Goody.

    I really don’t get that sacred logo-which-must-not-be-tread-upon-yet-which-is-weaved-right-into-the-floor-covering thing.

    12:15 Brendan Gallagher protests to the ref that he was hauled down. Andrew Ference butts his mendacious nose into it and tells Brendan that he barely touched him. Who are you going to believe?

    13:15 How many Canadiens fans are there in the stands in Edmonton? It’s all red jerseys, even in the lower bowl.

    14:00 Now we focus on Carey Price’s hometown, Anahim Lake, just east of Bella Coola.

    15:00 Apparently, Carey won fastest skater during skills contests at junior team tryouts. Surprising, but seeing him move around in his zone, not all that much, actually.

    16:15 P.K. cranking up the volume on dressing room tunes. He still seems despondent over the run-in with the coach earlier in the show. Or, actually, he’s just grooving to the music and enjoying his coffee, on closer inspection. Looks like the accepted narrative doesn’t quite agree with the evidence.

    17:00 More dressing room dissension: Brandon Prust owns Alex Galchenyuk in a morning skate tussle, using his jersey to give him a classic Nilan. These guys obviously can’t stand each other.

    21:00 Scenes inside the dressing room immediately after the win against the Canucks. Everyone’s happy. Winning solves a lot of problems.

    … you know, because there’s no way hundreds of overcompetitive stars with massive egos would ever cheat to gain an edge with hundreds of millions of dollars at stake.–Bill Simmons

  22. HABZ24 says:

    The egg line is the top point getting line by why isnt the egg line the number 1 line and gionta,patchs,plek number 2 line ? Its seniority, dont want to disrespect the vets,no cant have that.why is that midget desharnais still in the nhl? Because the new GM overpaid him and they dont want to make the gm look stupid.before this becomes another gomez situation do it now,send desharnais down.put bournival with patchs and plek.happy emelins back soon.


  23. Timo says:

    So, Tampa lost Stamkos for a while. Who is better than DD to replace him. Man, I can see Habs collecting on that trade.

  24. The Jackal says:

    Anyone wanna weigh in, just for fun, on the pluses and minuses of the following three cities for student living (social life, bar scene, etc.):

    Thanks for participating!

    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • habs1992 says:

      If you wanna have a party go to Victoria, Calgary 2nd and Edmonton is just a terrible place all around a real dump. the best party schools are in Ontario, and especially in Kingston where i go, party it up my friend, we are only young once.

      I support Carey Price
      “Habs Insider”

      • chanchilla says:

        well, that’s just not true, pick victoria, best weather.

      • The Jackal says:

        yeah, ON is fun, I live in TO and I may return to my alma mater, but that is a long shot. Montreal and Vancouver are other options but those three are all known quantities to me. Vic looks nice but I like winter and their nice weather is not a plus for me. I like snow and ice and feeling the cold air.

        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • johnnylarue says:

      I’ll be brutally honest: those are three of my least favourite Canadian cities (with all due respect to the numerous posters who live there).

      Montreal is, in my opinion, the best place to be a student in all of Canada. It was practically made for students.

      Vancouver is okay. I live there now. But, as you probably know, it’s a total bore compared to Montreal.

      Victoria is a beautiful (and surrounded by “awesome nature stuff”) but it’s an absolute hole, culturally.

      Calgary and Edmonton… I just can’t relate. With apologies.

    • Timo says:

      Definitely not Edmonton.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Everyone says that Victoria is great because it has nursing colleges and other schools like that, and the ‘ratio’ favours young men on a Saturday night. I’ve been to Victoria and it’s nice, but can’t say I saw this blatant disproportional number of young ladies as opposed to men, but that’s the accepted wisdom. Having lived for years in a ski town though, and experiencing the exact reverse, I want to believe that about Victoria.

      Weather is really nice, actually sunnier and drier than Vancouver, and you can surf just outside Victoria, although the locals are crazy possessive about their breaks, so you’ll have to get with the in-crowd and pay your dues, or else have your car trashed while you’re out in the water.

      Had some fun times in Calgary, but I’d go to Victoria out of the three you mentioned.

  25. port elgin says:


    Do not overpay, money or term,yes he’s having a great year, they all do in their contract year. What usually happens after they sign for term AND money, well I think you already know.

    Be reasonable or ……seee yaaaa

  26. Cal says:

    I like the fact that the highlights are there IF we want to view them by pressing PLAY. Having them start automatically is a little nuts, considering that many of us spend hours visiting the site and commenting.
    Please fix that gremlin, HIO staff.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Yup. Loud, annoying and obnoxious…. and I don’t like loud, annoying and obnoxious.

      Okay, well, I’m off. I’ve got “That’s hockey 2nite with Steve Kouleas” PVR’d, gonna go watch it.

    • govenah says:

      Not coming back if the auto ads and highlights pack keeps destroying my relaxing read here.

      Grind this.

    • habcertain says:

      too much DD bashing, they are trying to curtail the multi-hour visits, one post per customer!

    • slyCH says:

      This has got to be the stupidest idea ever, put a loud commercial on a site that needs constant refreshing, so you get annoyed every 2 minutes. I’ve stopped clicking on their links since they beg for subscriptions anyway, now this. I’m gone until they come to their senses.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      As others advised, the solution is to use Adblock on your browser. Just Google it, press on a button or two, and you’re set, you don’t have to be a techie.

      Once you have Adblock, you get a little stop sign in the upper right-hand corner (on Chrome anyway), and when you visit HIO and the annoying video starts, click on the stop sign, then click on the “Easy create filter” button. Now, go to the offending video, click on it, and it will silence, and you’re set. Further visits or refreshes will not be greeted with the loud videos.

      The cool thing is I’d stopped visiting a Sports Illustrated section because of that very fact, an annoying video would fire up every time I clicked to another page. The Adblock took care of that too, and now I’m safe to visit again.

  27. GGtheHab says:

    In support of us that are not all that computer savvy, can we all boycott this site for a few days, and if the ad is still there boycott it a few posts until it is removed

    • GGtheHab says:

      I am out…will check in in two days… hope the pop up is gone by then…

      • Mattyleg says:

        Install Adblock plus.
        Worked for me!
        I did it this morning to get rid of the irritating NHL highlight video that kept starting up at top volume every time I refreshed the page.
        Got rid of it, and all the pop-ups.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • VancouverHab says:

          I’ve got Chrome & AdBlock, but every time I post a message the nhl highlights blares out.

          Again, it’s a free site, so they can do what they must to raise money, as is their right: but this is a really annoying function indeed.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Read my post above, at 11: 53. Just a couple more steps will take care of it.

          • Timo says:

            After you’ve installed Adblock, that clip will have a small tag (probably top right corner) saying “Block”. Click on it and browser will add a rule to block it.

  28. naweed235 says:

    I know I’m a little late for this one, but how cool was it when Chucky kissed the CH crest on his chest after scoring that last goal? Great to see the young kids showing some passion for the CH

  29. Psycho29 says:

    @ Hobie
    Close, that 1995 Habs vs Leafs game was 4-3 on a goal at 19:59 of the 3rd by Pierre Turgeon

  30. fun police says:

    extremely annoying ad.

    • Storman says:

      Reminds me of an email I got at work one time from my boss, when i opened it it executed an audio file which blared out my name and that i was watching porn, every key i hit on my laptop only increased the volume..was one of the best joke emails ever..

      But yes back to HIO annoyance ad,, i turned off my my adblock on the HIO domain just to be reminded how annoying that ad is..did not take me long to return to blocking that annoyance ad…

  31. Storman says:

    NESN just showed the Stamkos break in super slow mo. man that is a serious fracture, wow that suckssssssssssss.

  32. A. Berke says:

    About the annoying ads, someone earlier asked if there was a remedy available to use with Safari.
    Just go to Safari (in bold at left on top line) and click on it then click on “extensions” and the first item on the list is an Ad Blocker for Safari; just download it.
    PS: I haven’t done it yet so I don’t know how well it works but it’s a start.


    Ali B.

    • Fransaskois says:

      It works really well and it’s a proven, trusted program. You aren’t just downloading some internet scam, this is the Norton-Antivirus equivalent on the Mac/Safari for those who are tentative. I use it and I have no issues.

  33. Danno says:

    Ad Blocker should buy space from HI/O for an annoying pop up ad about their product. Oh wait. They don’t need to anymore.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

  34. Phil C says:


    From Elliotte Friedman’s 30 thoughts:

    6. Lost in all of the P.K. Subban craziness last week was news that fellow Montreal Canadiens defenceman Andrei Markov is switching agents. Markov has not yet said who his new representative will be. But a couple of NHL GMs said they hate when this happens right before contract time (Markov is slated to become an unrestricted free agent). “You’re always worried the new guy is telling him how much better a deal he can get,” one GM said. “Then, he has to live up to it.”

    • Habilis says:

      I have seen some rumblings about this on Twitter as well. Makes me a little nervous. Hopefully, it’s just a case of Markov wanting to maximize his earnings in the twilight of his career.

      I remember reading about a few players who have done that over the years. Shedding their agents and negotiating their own deals late in their careers. Saves the player money by not having to give a percentage to an agent. I could be wrong but I think Brodeur operates like that now.

      But if this was the case with Markov, one would think that he’d have informed Bergevin already.

    • CanadienBoy says:

      Time to cash in on Markov ,let trade him to the Oilers for next year 1 rounder and one prospect not in NHL

  35. Storman says:

    Guys I use Chrome as my browser with adblock installed,, with a little adjustment to the settings in adblock it worked fine at eliminating the very annoying automated highlight ad..if you use chrome and need help post a reply, Man that ad is ultra annoying if you cant get rid of it ,,that is for sure..

  36. zorro says:

    I agree, the ads are Very annoying.

  37. Ozmodiar says:

    Coderre – worst mayor in the country right now, no?!? Am I right??

    Really, does anyone else even come close?

    No political acumen whatsoever.

    /so disappoint

    • Bill J says:

      Uhm, have you heard about the Toronto Mayor?

      1. Drinks himself into drunken stupor’s (and publicly admits this)
      2. Smokes crack cocaine, and allows it to be videotaped…… Then eventually admits it.
      3. Threatens to kill someone (not making this stuff up)
      4. (As if all the above was not enough) has photo taken with two known gang members.
      5. A bit of a rewind here, but to paint the full picture… Also seen driving while reading a NEWSPAPER… Not a smartphone, because THAT is illegal… But a NEWSPAPER, while on the gardiner expressway…. The Toronto equivalent to la metropolitaine.
      6. When a citizen who saw him reading the paper calls him out for it, the Toronto mayor not only flipped the Toronto citizen the bird… But told him to go (yeah that word) himself.

      Coderre for all his ballsyness, may be the best mayor EVER! He’s not afraid to ruffle feathers, after the previous 3 mayors over the last year…. Perhaps he is what Montreal needed.

      Go Habs Go!

      • Phil C says:

        Yeah, but did he rip Leafs while high on crack in a drunken stupor? The defense rests.

        • Bill J says:

          Coderre ripped a player, not the team.

          Coderre is a HUGE Hab fan, his voice is just heard more then ours. No need to be jealous.

          And the question was “Is Coderre the worst mayor in the country”.

          I rest my case that slamming an underperforming player is NOTHING like what I listed.

          Go Habs Go!

          • Phil C says:

            I’m with you, I think its funny that we have two mayor controversies over such different things. Ford is the worst.

      • ari says:

        i had lunch with three torontorian(i hope its right),all they say was about his popularity and how much people still like him.
        i wish he would admit this at the begining and close the book,instead of dragging and mess it up more.after all ,if you wanna smoke crack, are these people are the sexiest one to smoke with?

        • Bill J says:

          I think the gang member relations may be the drop that overflowed it. I feel like he’s either going to resign or be ousted.

          Mayor CrackHead is poplar because like the teachers pension in Toronto, all they care about is the money. Rob ford has done good things for Toronto, but as I keep telling people… A monkey could have done a better job then the predecessors to Rob Ford. So that’s not saying much really…

          The fact a crackhead mega alcoholic did so much, only proves a sober one has potential to do even better. At least I sure hope so.

          Go Habs Go!

      • donmarco says:

        You may have possibly not noticed Ozzie’s sarcasm font. Can’t think he meant it when our country includes Cracky the Crackhead.

    • VancouverHab says:

      “No political acumen whatsoever.”

      Well, except the political acumen required to, you know, get himself elected Mayor of Montreal.


  38. Bill says:

    Somebody PLEASE tell me how to disable the automatic videos that start to play every time i click on a new page on HIO.

    They are driving me insane. I hate hearing the same stupid video start up every time I refresh a page or go back to the home page. Whoever added this “feature” should be drawn and quartered.

    Seriously HIO, WTF?? Every time I refresh the page or post a comment the same video starts to play. Get this crap off the site now!!

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  39. Storman says:

    Congratulations to Harry Neale who was presented the Foster Hewitt Memorial award at Hockey Hall of Fame awards show.. I was reminded of an old story I remember Harry talking about during a Hockey Night in Canada broadcast. He said he was coaching the Vancouver Canucks who were in to play the Montreal Canadiens at the Forum, he was having a little bout of stomach flu, of which he referred to as the Mexican 2 step, and every time he had to leave the bench to go take care of business he would hear the roar of the crowd as the Canadiens would score, that night he talked on the big white telephone 11 times.. Habs 11 Canucks 2

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Harry Neale is great. One of my favorites among hockey commentators. Knowledgable, witty, self_deprecating despite having only insightful comments.

      • Storman says:

        I to really enjoy his hockey knowledge and insight infused with humor in a way that only Harry Neale seems to pull off on a regular limitless basis of anecdotes, quotes, jokes, and great Harry Neale story telling..Buffalo Sabres fans need his humor big time this year..

  40. JM says:

    Maybe Coderre should have a talk with Brierre before he returns and tell him if he’s no better than he was before the concussion. He’s gonna be joining DD in Hamilton ….

  41. DadidolizedDougHarvey says:

    Really too bad about Stamkos. He always struck me as one the really decent stars in the NHL. I always appreciated the way he stated what he thought after the Chara hit on Pacioretty, didn’t mince words.

    • donmarco says:

      Yeah, I’m with you on that. Definitely one of the classier players in the NHL, and that was even before the Pax comment. Losing him is like us losing Subban. Can’t see how Tampa will weather his absence.

  42. Say Ash says:

    Which happens first: Stamkos comes back or Chucky grows that moustache?

  43. Mavid says:

    TANK!!!!!!!!! oh sorry thought we were playing tonight..

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  44. CH Marshall says:

    Yo these ads and that video link on the right is annoying.

  45. Psycho29 says:

    ESPN Classic has Leafs vs Habs from Oct 1995. Tremblay’s first game as coach (Habs were 0-5 before that game) .

    Canadiens had Yves Sarault, Craig Ferguson and Yves Racine in the lineup. Yes I said “WHO” also…

  46. Timo says:

    All these annoying ads and HIO still can’t buy a new server.

  47. Timo says:

    Saw Coderre’s commentary on RDS… What a sleazeball. Holy molly!!

    • JUST ME says:

      Just because he is Montreal`s mayor i hope. Cause he is a huge fan of the Habs and have been on twitter talking about them every game for years. If not then i hope you include yourself in the sleazeball wagon and the hundreds of others that have asked for D.D. to be sent to Hamilton, fired, benched, traded, given away and what not ? One must be fair towards everyone.

      • donmarco says:

        And how do you think Coderre would have reacted if DD tweeted to vote for Melanie Joly because Coderre was a fat corrupt politican? It was in crappy taste.

        • ari says:

          what’s wrong a fat probably corrupt politician has an opinion on hochey? what a no news become news here?So ,because he is a mayor now he shouldn’t say loud his opinion?to anyone doesn’t like,suck it up and grow up .after all,he didn’t say anything wrong,did he?

          • donmarco says:

            It’s out of place and inappropriate. If we all accept that hockey is a religion in Montreal, then you NEVER mix politics and religion. It’s an unnecessary and stupid distraction.

      • Habilis says:

        There’s a small difference. None of us are the Mayor of Montreal.

        I get that he’s a fan and that’s great. I get that he has opinions like all of us and that’s great too. But he has to realize that when he says things publicly, as is the case with Twitter, he is saying them not only as a fan, but as the Mayor as well. You can’t simply separate the fan from the Mayor, it doesn’t work that way. Once he got elected, heck once he threw his hat in the ring, he became a public figure. He needs to realize that.

        As you pointed out, lots of fans (me included) have called for DD to be benched, traded, crucified, whatever. But I’ve only read news stories about one of them. Dude should have known better.

      • neumann103 says:

        Coderre has every right, but it is stupid for him to do.Just my opinion, but I think the mayor should stick to positive platitudes when talking about the local sporting teams. Bask in their reflected glory etc. When he starts heckling the slumping players it makes him look petty and mean.

        But hey, my mayor smokes crack, and has to qualifiy his crack smoking as happening during “one of my drunken stupors”, and likes to get high and threaten people’s lives, so whatta I know?

        “Et le but!”

        • mount royal says:

          What??? A politician who says what he thinks!!! We must protest. Someone out there might actually disagree with him. His job is not to lead, not to speak honestly; but to be nicey, nicey. He can no longer be a fan with his own opinions. He should do a poll first to see what people might think, and then he can say nothing, while appearing to be wise.

          • donmarco says:

            He can be a fan, like anyone here can be a fan. But when you are in the public spotlight you have a soapbox. If he wants he can create a profile here under an assumed name (like most here do, by the way) and say whatever pleases him. But not as the Mayor of a large city.

    • CH Marshall says:

      Yup. Sorta like kicking a guy while he’s down in a public way. You and I can slag him here because we’re just random dudes on a newspaper blog, a public forum. For the newly minted mayor to do that seems really wrong… But then again, i guess social media is really blurring the lines in how we interract with all sorts of people.

      Anyways, Coderre can say what he wants, but now it’s his fat ass turn to deliver the goods 😀

  48. Hobie Hansen says:

    Emelin is the key. The team took a nosedive as soon as he got hurt last season. Sure the team has allowed a respectable amount of goals against thus far but we’re a .500 club.

    I think Emelin’s return can turn us from a bubble team to a playoff team. When Prust is back we can forget about Desharnias, St. Pierre and Dumont on the 4th line. Moen-White-Prust is the way to go.

    I have confidence in this team once those two big boys are back to settle things down out there. When a big team is pressing for a goal in the 3rd I want Emelin and Prust out there.

  49. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Past midnight on a school night. I leave all further analyzing and hypothesizing and tangentiating in your very capable hands and bid everyone good night.

    Lafleurguy (I saw your really late reply! Cheers!) and Gentleman, hope you’re merely maintaining observer status and can silently receive best wishes.

    And as comfortable a night as possible to Steve Stamkos.

    Go Habs Go

  50. Price07 says:

    It really pisses me off how the french media is having such an issue with the DD criticism. Nobody ever has an issue bashing Price, Subban, Plekanec and remember Gomez!? But this guy (DD) has Gomez-like numbers and we can’t make fun of him/complain about him? Do these people honestly believe that they are at all objective? Ever?

    I’d love to comment on some stuff on RDS’s website, too bad my written french isn’t good enough!

    • The Jackal says:

      Stop with the French media BS.
      It’s not about criticizing DD in particular, it is about a public official making a relatively rude comment that was offside.
      It would be an issue for any player.

      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • VancouverHab says:

      DD has nowhere near Gomez “numbers”. If you refer to the goal production in his last season, that is part of the number, but his assists production was (a.) well above DD’s current production and (b.) far from poor in its own right.

      Yes, I think the fake image of Gomez is as annoying and unfair as it is false.

    • JUST ME says:

      Did you ever listen to TSN radio then? Tony Marinaro and the other schmuck McKenna have been having daily nightmares about D.D. and they are english so stop with the french bashing..

    • mount royal says:

      07 Are you joking? Can you actually read the French media? What you are saying is total nonsense.

  51. frontenac1 says:

    Hola Amigos! What the F#ck are they doing to the Mobile Site? It hasnt worked for BB 10 and Android or for 2 weeks. I finally sign on with my UNIVAC Mainframe and all this cheesy vulgar noise?Scandalous! Speaking of which, This new Rookie Montreal Mayor needs to go on a Downtown Walkabout with me and Burly. Saludos!

  52. Reflektor says:

    Stamkos surgery? Pffft, TSN and SN and CBC and Globe and Post and Star are all headline screaming ‘Bolland is on crutches for a month!’

    • slapshot777 says:

      That will be the excuse if Toronto falters. Always looking for the excuse. Nothing else in the world of hockey matters. Typical Toronto. TSN would have a different demeanor if everyone out the Toronto region cancelled the subscription to TSN.

      See if that would make them stand up and take notice.

      To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  53. SteverenO says:

    While Desharnais, and his lack of production are constantly scrutinized, and deservedly so, his defensive numbers indicate that he is working hard.

    Meanwhile Pacioretty is flying under the radar: ;lets compare the two and use Bournival’ and Bourque’s , and Gallaghers numbers for comparison’s sake:

    Player-Even strength TOI – ES Team GF/GA= avg mins of TOI per

    Even Strength team Goals Scored while on ice
    Desharnais: 225 Mins. TOI- 3 GF – AVG= 75 mins per GF
    Pacioretty: 118 MIns TOI- 1 GF – AVG = 118 mins per GF
    Bournival: 173 Mins. TOI- 9 GF – AVG= 19 mins per GF
    Bourque : 253 MIns TOI- 5 GF – AVG = 51 mins per GF
    Gallagher: 236 Mins. TOI- 10 GF – AVG= 23 mins per GF

    Even Strength team Goals Allowed while on ice
    Desharnais: 225 Mins. TOI- 5 GA – AVG= 45 mins per GA
    Pacioretty: 118 MIns TOI- 6 Ga – AVG = 20 mins per GA
    Bournival: 173 Mins. TOI- 3 GA – AVG= 58 mins per GF
    Bourque: 253 MIns TOI- 5 GA – AVG = 51 mins per GF
    Gallagher: 236Mins. TOI- 7 GA – AVG= 34 mins per GF

    Yes, Pacioretty has been on for 5 PPGs (Desharnais has been on for three), but no one is calling for Pacioretty to take a one way trip to Hamilton.

    The truth is that both players got off to a slow start, and since they were split yup neither has done anything. I would give them a few more games together and hope they rekindle the chemistry they once had.

    Desharnais lack of production has been offset by his defensive effort.
    and he has not hurt the team nearly as much as people are making it out to be. If he had two goals and three assists and was a minus 6 no one would be complaining – yet that would mean that he was hurting the team more than has been.

    Did anyone notice Bournival got benched in the first period and early second against the Isles?

    He was sent back out after Moen ( who was getting double shifted) left the game .

    Bournival has been extremely effective and the Coach NEEDS to find a way to get him more ice time-

    His productivity numbers on offense ( one GF every 19 minutes of ES TOI) and defense (one ES GA every 58 minutes ) are both best on the team.

    Despite winning yesterday’s game, Bournival playing only 13 minutes while DD, played 15 minutes,Bourque, and Gallagher 17 minutes and Pacioretty 20, is another example of poor ice time management by a coaching staff that are not doing their homework.


    Steve O.

    • habcertain says:

      DD’s slump extends to last year also.

    • Mark C says:

      Bournival wasn’t benched. He had a shift end at 10:25 in the first. At 12:00 Eller took a penalty. Just over two minutes later the islanders took a penalty which expired at 17:10. Bournival had a shift at 18:27. He then had his first shift in the second at 1:46. It was merely a matter of him not getting special teams time.

      By the way, there is so so so much more to hockey than just how many goals are scored when while one player is on the ice.

  54. Sportfan says:

    So people are mad that the Montreal Mayor said exactly what most Hab fans were thinking when it comes to DD?

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

    • zorro says:

      If you don”t produce, then you don”t belong.

    • donmarco says:

      I’m not sure about you, but the vast majority of us do not have the stage the mayor has. He has a right to think it, but it’s questionable to come out and say it publicly. It was in poor taste and gave no thought to the individual in question and his struggles. As if the kid didn’t have enough pressure on him before. Bet you a million bucks he won’t do it again.

  55. Storman says:

    Was just watching Modern Family, 3 kids walk in on their parents in the bedroom,, they all run away screaming, little brother asks the sisters what were Mom and Dad doing, sisters say never mind. little brother says well whatever they were doing it looks like Dad was winning..Modern Family rocks…

  56. jols101 says:

    Love the dusting of peach fuzz on Chucky’s and Gally’s upper lip in the videos. Trying hard to represent for Movember.

  57. donmarco says:

    Stamkos surgery scheduled for tomorrow according to Lightning officials. Minimum 3-4 months recovery.

  58. --Habs-- says:

    Why are they keeping Pateryn instead of learning in Hamilton. Its not like they can dress him in the middle of a game! If they need him he could be here in a few hours!

    “Habs” on my license plate!

    • Habilis says:

      What if someone gets hurt during the pre-game skate? Hamilton is still at least 2 hours away, if you happen to have a plane waiting for you on the tarmac. It’s 4 or 5 hours by car, and that’s if you’re speeding.

      Until the Habs move their farm team to Laval or someone invents a teleporter, they need one extra forward and one extra D for game days. Unlucky for Pateryn that he’s one of them right now, but once Emelin gets back, he’s gone anyhow.

  59. Sportfan says:

    I’m not enjoying that video going off every time the page refreshes

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I’m not a fan of it, but all one has to do is have your volume set to mute and it is of no bother. I really like having this site available to us, it is no charge to us and provides a great forum which we all seem to enjoy.

      If they choose to try and create some revenue as a result, I can’t hold this against the owners of this domain. We live in a Capitalist environment and if this allows HI/O to remain free for us, I can live with the mute button remaining on.

      Understand the frustration, but I do think we have to remember that the Gazette is not a non profit organization.

      • slapshot777 says:

        I do the same I mute the volume and never even know it is there.

        To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

      • Mr. Biter says:

        I don’t mind the video the 1st time but after every post Oui. Good point HIB, off with volume.

        Mr. Biter
        No Guts No Glory

      • donmarco says:

        Keeping in mind, though, that consumers have great power, and if HIO saw the comments one day drop to zero they’d listen. I’d be ok if it was Stubbsy or Stu (even Booner) making the money but some nameless corporate VP Marketingndecides to do something tha ticks off the consumers of the product? Uh-uh.

        Now who will lead the boycott?


    • GGtheHab says:

      I concur….put the video there, if I want to watch it i will…but I am here to read opinions..I get all the highlights I need from TV…

    • Storman says:

      I am using Adblock with Google Chrome, it has eliminated the annoyance of that NHL automated highlight ad going off every time i visit this page. You may have to adjust your adblock settings to get it to work for you..If you need any help let me know,, that Automatic highlight ad package is quite annoying..

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Well aren’t you all the privileged ones getting NHL highlights in your necessary-evil video ad!!

      I have basketball clips from the important measuring-stick game between Bauro and San José Dos Campos in the South American league.

      (no disrespect, Jackal!)

      • The Jackal says:

        Lol none taken.
        I’m actually in Venezuela visiting family at the moment so I also get a basketball clip!

        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  60. Say Ash says:

    Hey, did you guys hear? Stamkos broke his tibia.

  61. Ian Cobb says:

    We are getting a clearer picture of where we sit in a league of 30 teams.


    Total Points—19. For 15th place. Last week 16 for 16th place.

    Goals For——48. For 18th place. Last week 41 for 14th place.

    Goals Against-40. For 8th place. Last week 31 for 3rd place.

    Goal diff—— +8. For 12th place. Last week +10 for 10th place.

  62. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Great posts for Remembrance Day, notably from Sholi and Mattyleg, but others also.

    When Nov 11 falls on a school day I wear my poppy not only to remember but also to provoke. Poppies are controversial here (although not so much here in the Republic as in the North), and in previous years I have been asked by students — and even by staff — to remove it. This gets discussion and debate going, always a good thing in education in my opinion.

    Lots of comments (“Nice flower, sir!”) and questions today, and no controversy.

    My Dad, who was an air-raid warden in Dublin during what was euphemistically called “The Emergency”, used to bring me away for one weekend every year, and it gradually became our tradition to make it the Remembrance Sunday weekend and we often went to Ottawa. There we would visit the War Museum, the National Aviation Museum, talk a lot about war, about peace, about WWII, and attend the ceremony with fly-past. Important memories.

    To those who’ve lost loved ones, or whose loved ones are serving, I hope today has been good for you.

    • donmarco says:

      I had 2 Uncles who served for the duration, with both involved in the D Day invasion. Both returned, but were never the same boys again, according to their wives. While I grew up in a house where “big boys never cried”, 11/11is always a very moving day and I try to keep to myself as much as possible. Because of their devotion my generation has been able to live largely without fear.

      The poppy is a very powerful symbol here, so thanks for wearing it Mike. And thanks for maybe opening up a mind or 2 in the process.

      Lest we forget……………..

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Those are powerful connections.
        How could anyone possibly be the same again? The things they witness, do, and experience — much of it is inhumane and damage is done.

        It doesn’t help that society is not always exactly welcoming to those who return.

        Remembering is tough for you. But I’m sure you believe it’s right to remember nonetheless.


    • Storman says:

      Awesome post,,Thanks for the post Mike , educate by provocation or by any means necessary to get the blood flowing to the knowledge train, i try my best to use sense of humor at times , my ill fated humor attempts at provocation and education..

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Good post Mike thanks for sharing. We all have different stories of how we are affected by war. It is imperative that we all remember the sacrifices these men and women not only made for us, but continue to make for us.

      What I find most important, is that these soldiers don’t pick and choose their battles. These human beings sign up to defend our country and the politicians essentially make the choices. It is easy for us to disagree with what or where the Gov’t chooses to be involved, but the soldiers have no choice. Their choice was to serve our country, for this I thank them.

      I especially remember WWII as my father lost his father, mother and a few siblings during that time. He as a result was raised as POW from age 11 to 17 treated as an adult prisoner. The affects this had on him were unbelievable, it would be incredible if one day we can have a world free of War.

    • piper says:

      Mike, I can see how you may take some heat over there wearing a poppy. Good for you.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Didn’t mean to suggest that I was heroically facing down an angry mob or anything! Only that provoking someone into reacting, and thereby revealing the limits of their knowledge on the subject, can often result in discussion and a fresh look. Any teacher will tell you what a godsend that kind of willing engagement represents!

        The wearing of poppies in Britain (for eg on the BBC and Sky) has looked increasingly in recent years like cheerleading for the British Armed Forces and for the UK’s current foreign policy. Easy to see how such cheerleading would be utterly intolerable for a Northern nationalist here.

        No one has EVER continued an objection once I explain that I am Canadian.

  63. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …a question I have for those in the Hamilton area following the pretty disappointing, so far, season of the Bulldogs

    …is this more a reflection of the poor-quality of coaching on the Bulldogs than the quality of the Players ?
    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    Campaign to Retire Toe Blake’s Number 6 !!!

    …and, last, but not least: …please send Your donations to Your preferred charities to help Filipinos recover from one of the worst recorded typhoons in World history !!!

  64. twilighthours says:

    Oh Stammer.


    • donmarco says:

      Wow. Powerful. Thanks for sending it.

      At 11 this morning, after listening to the Last Post on CBC radio, and during the 2 minutes of silence, a fighter jet roared over my house.


      Many thanks to all Vets. Many thanks.

  65. Habs_101 says:

    With the news of Emelin’s imminent return I am finally excited about this teams defense!!

    I think it will likely take 5-10 games for Emelin to reach full game speed and be ready for significant minutes. HOWEVER after a few games with Emelin back in the line-up I would love to see the habs give Magnus Nygren a 5 game or so tryout!

    He is a year younger than Subban, but two years older than Subban was when he played in the AHL, however Nygren’s numbers 0.69ppg and 3SOG/G are both slightly higher than Subban’s when he was there!

    YES…its a small sample size! BUT for a guy who is supposedly ‘adjusting’ to NA ice, he seems to be very successful, at 6’0 200′ he is bigger than boullion or diaz and certainly a better puck mover and skater than Murray. With a top 4 of Markov, Subban, Gorges, Emelin, I think we could really get Nygren, Patyern, Tinordi and Beaulieau some sheltered minutes playing with vets as the 5-6 pair with PK/PP time depending on who is in. Of course, this is all provided the d stay healthy now! *touch wood*


    • donmarco says:

      Still a work in progress,but your excitement is shared. As Bouillon, Drewiske and Murray are weaned away, in will come Tinordi, Beaulieu and Pateryn. Not to mention Dietz and Thrower down the road. And I agree that Nygren should get a solid shot too.

  66. HabFab says:

    Tampa Bay Lightning – Steven Stamkos suffered a broken right tibia during this afternoon’s game at Boston. He is out indefinitely.

    NOTE: no mention of surgery

  67. habfab14120 says:

    Don’t know if thiswas mentioned in another thread.

    Aaron Ward tweeted that he has a source reporting Stamkos has a broken tibia and will require surgery.

  68. Say Ash says:

    Get rid of the blaring NHL ad now.

  69. ClutchNGrab says:

    Just checked in my hotel in Ellenton, FL. Missing my family a lot, open my laptop…

    Thank you new mayor, you made my day!

    p.s. Vinny must have been pissed to be bought out by the lightning, Tampa Bay is paradise when you consider that he’s a millionaire. What a great city.

  70. Bigdawg says:

    that MEGA annoying NHL ad has got to go!!!

    What is this site coming to? Like hockeybuzz? Gross!

  71. Seps says:

    Wanted to raise an issue, Bouillon is -8 in 17 GP, Murray -3 in 7 GP, Tinordi E in 6 GP, Beaulieu +2 in 5 GP… Why the heck aren’t they playing, not only are they our future but they can’t do that much worse of a job than the two old guys anyways. I mean the argument could be made that Bouillon can handle the minutes where as the younger guys might not, but clearly Bouillon can’t handle the minutes he’s been given either.

    • Cardiac says:

      For me the problem is Bouiilon is being given PP time… I’d rather have a forward at the point taking one-timers than Bouillon.

      You can guarantee one or the other will be seeing the press box when Emelin is back in the lineup.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

    • piper says:

      Habs need Murray in the lineup. Sure he’s slow but I see him as a tougher version of Hall Gill.

  72. Cardiac says:

    Just saw the clip, ugly play but what a warrior trying to get off on his own power. This is a HUGE blow to TB and Team Cananda.

    Thankfully Team Canada has an abundance of centers, however no one has been as consistent offensively as Stamkos. Time for the likes of Toews, Tavares, Getzlaf and Thorton to show the world what we are made of.

    “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
    – Jerry Maguire

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