Boyd replaces Gomez; Subban in for Weber

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Dustin Boyd returns to the Canadiens lineup tonight, replacing the injured Scott Gomez.

P.K. Subban returns to the lineup after being a healthy scratch for three games. Yannick Weber is out.

Carey Price faces Detroit’s Jimmy Howard in nets.

237 Comments

  1. LA Loyalist says:

    “The Intangibles!” — coming to a theatre near you this Christmas.

  2. LA Loyalist says:

    amen.

    icetime, dominate, confidence. amen.

  3. thebigguy says:

    On the flipside, we have 4 players on pace for 25+ points. On paper, we should have balanced scoring and we do. Our 1st line has produced fairly regularly, as have our 3rd and 4th lines. It’s just that middle line, the one that brings us so many intangeables. :/

  4. SeriousFan09 says:

    What I was going to say, if Pacioretty had not been prematurely called up in 08-09 and played that year plus 09-10, he could’ve been a playoff call-up along with Subban and helped the team out then and been a roster player this year.

    Rushing players means you never really see what you can get out of them until later on as their dev gets stunted.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  5. habsruleworld says:

    you are right, Mac T even made ligth of Pang’s absence,

     

    poor panger, am sure he’s not racist, just mis-spoke is all

  6. habaddict_andy says:

    Then bring him in the playoff!?  Would that be nice or what?

  7. J_P says:

    Totally agree.  Paccioretty is really starting to find his stride down in hamilton, no point in rushing him up to the bigs again.  We’re currently playing well enough to not need him, so why mess with his development. 

  8. Gormdog says:

    Lets take a page out of the Subban development book and give Patches a year of domination at the AHL level. Have we not learned from our mistakes?!?

     

  9. J_P says:

    JM’s game plan revolves around defense and goaltending.  The big three offensive acquisitions from last year (gomez, gionta, cammy) are currently on pace for less than 60 points.  The idea of cammalleri playing with Moen makes no sense no matter how many times he tries it.  Love Moen, but he has no business playing with players like gomez, gionta and cammy.  Its not his strength.  He’s a shutdown forward.

    Totally agree that Eller, Pouliot and Cammy would probably make for a far more effective line. 

  10. StevieRay says:

    Panger ( like PK ) has also had to “sit out ” a few shows on the TSN hockey  ” panel ”  due to his over exhuberlence…..

  11. J_P says:

    I agree 100% tha tthe goalie is part of the team, however if your game plan revolves around lights-out goaltending, you aren’t much of a coach.  If you look at philly, they’ve scored 28 more goals than us, and pittsburgh has scored 21 more goals than us.  They don’t rely on lights-out goaltending to win hockey games.  We’ve allowed less goals than those two teams, but when your team is giving up over 30 shots a game on average, that means goaltending is a HUGE part of the team winning.  Carey has yet to play even one bad game and, correct me if I am wrong, we’ve yet to pull out a come from behind victory this year (by come from behind victory, i mean trailing by 2 mid-way through the second or later). 

    Carey price isnt pacing along with a 0.91SV% and 2.3 GAA, he has a 0.937 SV% and under 2 GAA.  He’s started every game except for two, and won 17 starts.  Without him playing as well as he is, this team is a .500 team.  Cammalleri and Gionta are on pace for under 60 points (although gionta has picked it up lately), and lets not even talk about Gomez.   

     

  12. scrowe21 says:

    Haha..as much as I love PK, I don’t think he’s winning any trophy this year.

  13. bwoar says:

    Sorry to see Weber sit.  Tough call by JM but these kids can roll with the punches.  Subban will have a little heat behind him to keep him in line, Weber can taste it and will keep pressing.  Neither has been out of place.

  14. sidhu says:

    If Weber is going to sit, he might as well play in the AHL.

    I’ll renew my suggestion from a previous post — to pick up Olivier Magnan off of waivers from NJ, make him our #7, play Weber in Hamilton and make him our #1 call up.  Next season, Weber can replace Hammer, who will be vacating his spot as a UFA.  Magnan can be a good temporary fill in until we get some defensive depth before the deadline.

    When is Pacioretty going to get a shot with the big club — he has an impressive 15 goals.  I’d like to see this now:

    AK46-Pleks-Cammy
    Pacioretty-Gomez-Gio
    Benny-Eller-Darche
    Moen-Halpern-Pyatt/Lapierre

    Hammer-Spaceman
    Gill-Gorges
    Picard-Subbie
    Magnan

    Deadline:

    AK46-Pleks-Cammy
    Pacioretty-Gomez-Gio
    Benny-Eller-[big forward]
    Moen-Halpern-Darche

    Hammer-Spaceman
    Gill-Gorges
    [top 4 D-man]-Subbie
    Picard

    2011-season

    AK46-Pleks-Cammy

    Pacioretty-Gomez-Gio

    Benny-Eller-[big forward]
    Moen-Lapierre-Darche/White

    Spaceman-Weber

    Gill-Gorges

    [top 4 D-man]-Subbie

    Picard

  15. thebigguy says:

    I understand that the team doesn’t want to put much pressure on Pouliot; he’s the only player on the team minus Pyatt and Plekanec who hasn’t played with Gomez and probably won’t see line 2 duty till either the end of this year or next season. It’d be nice, however, to see Camalleri play with Pouliot and Eller while Gomez is out. I just can’t help but feel that Eller/Pouliot is far more offensive than Moen/Halpern.

  16. Bugs says:

    Or if they didn’t want to fix what wasn’t broken in the last 3 games.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  17. petefleet says:

    Boyd cleared waivers didn’t he?

    ”’Price is a pleasant suprise”’

  18. petefleet says:

    Aside from his propensity to try to do too much in the offensive zone, he’s actually solid in his own zone and overall a great young player.  If Muller and the boys tell him to leave offence to the forwards except when he’s on the PP, he should be fine.  He’ll be fine.  Mistakes won’t shake his confidence.  He’s got enough of that for himself and more.

    ”’Price is a pleasant suprise”’

  19. Oddball says:

    The only way PK wouldn’t be playing tonight is if the Habs brain trust were purposely sabotaging his Calder hopes, so as to not have to buck up come contract time. ;)

     

    ..always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves..

  20. Habfan29 says:

    The same could be said for all the team at the top. Fleury has turned it around in the last 12 games, the new kid in Philly etc. The last time I checked the goalie was part of the team…..

  21. shiram says:

    Cause no one really cares alot about Boyd, and they wanna see how the prospects manage at the Nhl’s level.

    But yea thats no good reason for a coach.

  22. russianhabs4life says:

    Wondering with what intensity P.K will bring tonight, I just hope he wasn’t told to change his game too much

     

     

    GO HABS GO

  23. joshua94k says:

    We could trade Gomez for the Leafs 2012 1st Draft pick. Gomez will set up Kessels with fancy passes all season long and Kessels will fail to connect all season long. The Leafs will flounder in the standings again and the Canadiens will get more salary cap relief and a high draft pick. It sounds like a move Sam Pollock would make.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  24. nick says:

    Why call the kids up from the AHL when you have a perfectly healthy forward sitting on the bench as an extra man?

  25. avatar_58 says:

    So what happens if PK makes a mistake? This is my fear and it’s not really fair – defenceman make mistakes. When forwards do it you just miss a scoring chance or cause a turnover, when defenceman do it you could be looking at a goal against.

    I really hope he puts the benching out of his mind and plays as he usually plays – on edge. Not so much to cause stupid errors with spin moves, but enough that it helps the habs with their offensive issues.

  26. J_P says:

    Great goaltending goes a long way in making an average team look like an extraordinary team.  He got lights-out goaltending in the playoffs last year, and hes getting lights-out goaltending so far this year.  Considering how close most of the games have been so far, I would say lights-out goaltending has been the biggest factor in our excellent record. 

    Ill give credit where credit is due, but considering early season struggles by a lot of our players (covered up by tremendous goaltending), our abysmal powerplay, and the fact that he’s getting nothing out of scott gomez, I dont think ill sing his praises just yet. 

     

  27. joshua94k says:

    Yes there is a Santa Clause !!

    Now PK goes out there and play your game. Don’t show any ‘respect’ to Zetterberg, Franzen or Lidstrom.

     

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  28. Timo says:

    I was so so wrong about JM.

  29. DearyLeary says:

    Especially if it was Panger again… could you imagine the media firestorm?  I imagine PK would laugh though.

  30. habs001 says:

    not a suprise that boyd is in the line up otherwise why would they have kept him around if he does not play when there is an injury…if that is the case boyd should have been in the ahl or released…

  31. shiram says:

    Futurama for the win

  32. Timo says:

    Hahah… awesome! :)

  33. DearyLeary says:

    Eh, the Swiss are neutral to everything.  What makes a man turn neutral?  Lust for gold?  Power?  Or was he just born with a heart full of neutrality.

  34. tony d says:

    or he’ll be blacklisted?

  35. Gormdog says:

    *looks for the thumbs up icon*

  36. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Stop it. I’m dying.

  37. Gormdog says:

    And who says JM isnt PROGRESSIVE!!!

     

    Look at the RISK he’s taking!

  38. JustSomeguy says:

    Hmmm …

    You know …

    I’m starting to second guess my habit of second guessing the coach.

    He has the Habs punching above their weight; fourth in the league in points; fourth in GF / GA difference.

    I’m absolutely 100% willing to cut the guy some slack over his coaching decisions because, at the end of the day, he’s done one helluva job. And he’s done it with a team that, a year ago, looked like a hastily-assembled mess of random parts.

  39. WindsorHab-10 says:

    You guys are killing me. Too Too funny.

  40. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Good one Pang.

  41. DearyLeary says:

    Wouldn’t it be funny if someone interviewed him and they dropped the “how does it feel to be black in the lineup?”.  

  42. Gormdog says:

    We’re saving em’ as late season trump cards. While other teams figure out if they are buyers or sellers, we’ll trade for a top 6 – and then call up two more!

  43. Gormdog says:

    I think we can all sigh in relief – He’s black in !

  44. habsruleworld says:

    lol, poor panger

  45. avatar_58 says:

    Boyd? Eh…..I know it’s probably not the best idea but it would have been nice to see Pacioretty or Desharnais given a 1 or 2 game trial. Just for fun

  46. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I could see that.

  47. Les-Habitants says:

    OMG HOW COULD YOU BENCH WEBER!! WINNING LINEUP!!

    WINNNIIINNGGGGGG LINEUPP!!!!!!

    AHHHHHHHHH!!!! *mind explodes*

  48. Timo says:

    PK has to remember that he has to play the white way and be respectful.

  49. shiram says:

    I was thinking Pleky on the first, Halpern on the second, Eller on the third and Boyd on the fourth.
    But we’ll see what JM has up his sleeves, he seems to always keep us guessing untill the last moment.

  50. DearyLeary says:

    /rimshot.

  51. DearyLeary says:

    What it comes down to is that PK’s a better skater than Weber.  Against a team like Detroit, you need to have all your best skaters our there (unfortunately Gomez will be sitting, despite all his detractors).  Next year Weber will be a regular on the team, but this year I think he’ll be used sparingly.

  52. TheMostCupsPeriod says:

    I’m glad JM did the white thing and put PK black in the lineup!!

  53. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So you think Boyd plays 2nd line centerman? I don’t like that idea…he is cold.

  54. Propwash says:

    So, now we back to whining about Gomez???

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  55. Gormdog says:

    We are all expecting PK to play like his hair is on fire.

     

    I think, if anything, we will see his most reserved game of the year. If not only to show JM he CAN play a pure JM style game, but also to ensure he gets the call v. Toronnah.

     

    Then we will see more of the PK we’ve learned to love!

  56. DearyLeary says:

    The Swiss are neutral in all things.  They’ll let his scratch slide.  

    I wouldn’t mind seeing one of our horses sit a game and let them heal up during a particularly demanding part of our schedule (read upcoming road trip).

  57. G-Man says:

    Probably not. Eller is not having too much pressure put upon him too soon. Keeping him where is with a line that is working well and generating confidence in all 3 players (Pouliot and Darche) is a good thing. He MAY see PP action on the 2nd wave.

    Detroit for the last dozen or so years have been a great franchise. This will be a fun game to watch!

  58. petrov14 says:

    Adam P. of THN on The Habs trading Gomez

    Hi Adam, I recently read that Canadiens GM Pierre Gauthier is looking to trade Scott Gomez. It seems incredibly unlikely due to his $7.35-million-a-season cap hit, but if Gomez is still considered a top skilled center (which Bob Gainey obviously thought he was), what do you think are the chances this could actually happen?

    Is the best we can hope for is taking back players with bad cap hits or problem players? I look at Buffalo, who are apparently dissatisfied with Tim Connolly and Craig Rivet; Calgary, Atlanta and Toronto all need skilled centers and have either cap space or spare parts that can be moved for space. Also, there are building teams like Carolina and the Islanders, who could take a prospect and/or draft pick to swallow the money.

    So if Gauthier sets his mind to getting as little back as possible, or even paying to get rid of him, do you think there’s any hope of dropping that dead cap-space? Or are we stuck with a 50-point player making more than Joe Thornton for three more years?
    Thomas Levesque, Windsor, Ont.

    Thomas,

    I know this is going to sound far-fetched to those with goldfish-caliber memories, but I saw Jason Blake traded last season with my own two eyes. Consequently (or unless that was a Lost-style “flash-forward” occurrence), I never could guarantee any contract (OK, other than Roberto Luongo’s and Ilya Kovalchuk’s) is un-tradable.

    Still, it’s quite difficult to imagine a scenario that would see Gomez traded anytime before he gets to the last year of his deal (and becomes attractive as a cap room-provider).

    And to address one of your examples – do you think Buffalo would throw away Connolly’s expiring contract for the privilege of paying for 246 more games from Gomez? Maybe if the Habs threw in a prized prospect and/or a draft pick, but that seems counterproductive to me. I can’t see any GM thinking that the soon-to-be 31-year-old will suddenly re-find his game at this stage of his career.

    As I’ve noted before, if there is an amnesty period after the next collective bargaining agreement, the Habs may have a chance to dump Gomez’s final year without any penalty. But barring that, it will take a minor miracle to get him out of the Blue, Blanc et Rouge.

    ______________________________________ Long live Captain Gionta.

  59. shiram says:

    Guess he got tired of all the debate.

  60. DearyLeary says:

    lol, what in the world is going on: He’s in!  He’s out…. He’s back in again!  It’s like a whirlwind of kind of lackluster news.

  61. shiram says:

    I got tricked, it was a trap all allong.

  62. TheMostCupsPeriod says:

    JM must of read what’s going on here at HIO and changed his tune.

    Cue the counterattack of the Weber-ites!

  63. Wops says:

    Finally some PK!!!! Gooooooooooooooooooooooood

  64. Les-Habitants says:

    Wow, quick change by HIO

    Subban in now – Weber out!  Well there you have it, everyone’s on the same page!

     

    Controversey averted!

  65. Les-Habitants says:

    WHO WILL BE RIGHT!! AHHHHHH – THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING MEEEE

  66. 24 Cups says:

    Aside from the Subban soap opera, I also think this is an indication that the Habs don’t want to play Laps (or Cammy) at centre for any great length of time.  The truth of the matter is you need to have some depth down the middle.

    Boyd may be rusty but he sure will be hungry to play.

  67. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So do I finally get my wish that Lars is the 2nd line center?

  68. CBrady12 says:

    Actually, like usual, TSN is right

  69. shiram says:

    Tsn is wrong, and the sun will rise tomorow morning…
    I kinda wish they dipped into the Bulldogs lineup instead of using Boyd, but thats not biggie really, maybe its his chance to prove his worth, but will he center the second line?

    As for Subban, well there is something thats going on and we dont really know what it is, i’m just glad Weber is playing great.

  70. CBrady12 says:

    Gotta love the Montreal media…TSN says Subban is in, HIO he is out, RDS says they arent sure and CKAC says hes playing…

  71. Just A Guy says:

    I’ve read your post a few times, but there’s just something about your name I don’t trust…

  72. habs001 says:

    he did…so why keep him around if he is not used when there ia an injury

  73. Oddball says:

    Well, I would agrue that point, especially when you mention L’Eartless. I would also argue your “hype” point. Make no mistake, PK is going to be a positive force on this team for a long time.

    ..always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves..

  74. nastyHABit says:

    Sorry!…..but i work the graveyard shift…it takes me awhile to get up to speed

  75. Say Ash says:

    your analysis is pang on

  76. gohabsgo25 says:

    i believe pg is showcasing webber for a bigger and better trade. he could be a prospect that can get us a great top 6 forward or a punishing defencemen.

     

    right now the team is geling but there are some needs pg will look at.

     

    btw whoever lives in calgary i have some heritage classic tickets for sale let me know if intrested.

     

  77. New says:

    Maybe he is showcasing Subban.

  78. shiram says:

    No no, you have to read the hundreds of post posted today before making your joke, thats the only to ensure a quality funny-one!

  79. HUDSONHAB says:

    Bwa ha ha ha!

    ….Hab4life….

  80. sg81 says:

    It’s fair to say that our top 4 D-men can’t be sitting. Fewer minutes per game possibly, but sitting? No. It’s somewhat of a struggle to determine which of the bottom 3 should play and in which combination. I haven’t really seen Picard make any mistakes yet, and that’s JM hockey at its finest. Weber brings more of an offensive punch, which we haven’t yet seen and is also solid defensively. PK brings a high-risk, high-reward brand of hockey to the table, although it’s not like his point totals so far have justified this style of play. I like that JM benched him. It’s 3 games, everyone can stop crying. This is one of the best coaches in the NHL and he knows what he’s doing. I’m sure that this will have a positive impact on PK’s long term career. Let’s see what happens tonight… As much as Gomez has been stinking this year, losing him for Boyd is a bad loss…

  81. punkster says:

    Personally I believe he’s showcasing the entire team. They’ve been awesome, have great depth and he wants the hockey world to see them all.

    ***Win or I toss these waffles!***

  82. Everlasting1 says:

    Your assessment doesn’t make it so.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  83. punkster says:

    Just a thought. They win tonight and no changes tomorrow. They lose Weber comes back in and one of the D gets a rest. Nice to have depth.

    ***Win or I toss these waffles!***

  84. punkster says:

    Oh and can’t make it Sunday. Thanks for asking though. Go MJ Go!!!

    ***Win or I toss these waffles!***

  85. punkster says:

    He doesn’t see things as they are, but as he is.

    Edit: By the way the kid may be hyped by the media and team but he’s got some awesome shiznit going on in his game. I think he is the real thing.

    ***Win or I toss these waffles!***

  86. LA Loyalist says:

    Hey go – I am very interested I totally flubbed out online this morning – I need 3 tix and would be coming up from LA. Pls email me at bradchisholm@me.com

    Thanks!

  87. vic says:

    Ubban bak . Dont make a mistake kid or talk.

  88. vic says:

    Subban Back.Dont make a mistake kid or talk.

    Keyboard a mess

  89. thebigguy says:

    Assuming we continue to play as we’ve been playing and we enter the playoffs as one of the top teams in the East, which of the following would you be willing to trade to get one of the top rentals on the market?

     

    Yanick Webber

    Louis Leblanc

    Max Pacorietty

    A 1st rd pick

    Danny Kristo

    Jarred Tinordi

     

    You gotta figure 1 of those players would be the player going the opposite direction for 1st tear rentals.

    Or for a 2nd teir rental

    Aaron Palushaj

    A 2nd round pick

    Brendan Gallagher

    Ryan White

    not sure Desarchnais, Ian White, Maxwell or Carle will really get us anything at all

     

     

  90. badbalance says:

    Well Well it’s the good times nazi. Here to disapprove of all our good times.

  91. LA Loyalist says:

    Breezer-bagging is legendary and a unique genre unto itself. Hopefully not even G…….z will approach.

  92. 24 Cups says:

    We’ve already traded O’Byrne, so if we trade Weber who is going to play for us next year or the season after?  Tinordi is light years away from becoming a regular on the D.

  93. Everlasting1 says:

    Stating absolutes is stating who he is.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  94. badbalance says:

    And why are you mad at him is beyond me. A smart man will just turn around and walk away without saying anything. You on the other hand… HAve to act like a real douche. If only you didn’t have so much “Swag” and did things more the “White way”.

  95. habaddict_andy says:

    It’s a good thing he doesn’t probably take people like you seriously.

  96. Former Jets Fan says:

    Playing Subban AND Weber would mean one of the right-shooting rookies would have to play his off side, or the other two D pairs would have to be disturbed.

  97. badbalance says:

    Unless we get Brad Richards I don’t think we can go all the way.

  98. badbalance says:

    Yeah he should deffinately take the Swag out of his game and stop with the “Monkey business”. Oops I just said what I was thinking, Sorry. I guess Pang just made it clear that it is ok to make recist comments, just say sorry after and it will be all good.

  99. nastyHABit says:

    NO ZOOP FOR YOU!

  100. LA Loyalist says:

    You know our top 5 prospects you mention – for all my bagging on us needing a top six center – boy it would be tough to give up any of those guys… We would have to be getting an unquestionable stud. what do you guys think?

  101. novahab says:

    Here is the thing Webber is a real good d-man PK is a star and you don’t sit stars and play good if you want to go to the top.

  102. andrewberkshire says:

    I don’t see a problem with either scenario against a weak team like Toronto. I would try splitting up Gorges and Gill.

  103. DearyLeary says:

    Milan Hejduk sure would look good on the right wing.  Wouldn’t cost more than a 2nd and a prospect.

  104. punkster says:

    And this presents a problem because…?

    ***Win or I toss these waffles!***

  105. habaddict_andy says:

    For once I agree with on one thing, what’s with the fuzz about PK.  But that’s about it.  I agree with everyone that he is an exciting player.  But I disagree with people believing he is being mistreated.  Have a little more respect of your team Les Canadiens.  Pk should be glad to be in this team and accept whatever is given to him including scratches.  Enough with Canadiens owes PK bull ****.

  106. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    To be honest, I would be willing to give up Kristo or Weber for the right player, but I wouldn’t want to trade LeBlanc, Pacioretty or Tinordi unless we were getting an ABSOLUTE BEAST in return.

    From the second list, any of those guys could be traded, but I wouldn’t want to give up Gallagher for a rental that won’t be re-signed.

  107. hab_skill says:

    Weber, Pacioraetty orthe 1st rounder.

  108. Former Jets Fan says:

    Yup, the Laffs game would be a good opportunity to get them both in.  Then again, a divisional game is vastly more important that a mere ‘measuring stick’ game against the best team in the West.

    I, however, would be more inclined to split the the Old Czechs.  Gill is so utterly devoid of footspeed that I don’t think he’d be a good partner for a rookie he’d likely have to cover for at some point.  Spacek, on the other hand, is on record as saying he prefers the left.  Despite the Old Czechs being the ‘shut-down’ pair these days, I feel any pairing with Hamrlik playing as he is will be effective in that capacity.

    Very much looking forward to PK’s response to JM’s challenge, but at the same time, I’m very much going to miss Weber’s quickly unleashed, accurate shots.  Maybe PK was taking note from the pressbox of how Weber does it!  That seermingly slo-mo HUGE wind-up isn’t fooling anybody!

  109. rossy131 says:

    Being benched can do two things to a young player:

    1. It can cause a player to lose the jump in his step, and do everything on the side of caution, as seen with Obyrne.

    2. It can motivate a player to show that he belongs in the lineup.

     

    Subban doesn’t strike me as the type of kid that is going to back down from a challenge. I expect him to learn from the benching, and come out flying tonight. He is to type of player that tries to prove himself every time he steps on the ice, and tonight, he’s going to play his heart out. 

     

  110. nastyHABit says:

    well excuuuuussssseeee me……i have more important things in my life than playin’ with my pecker and analyzing everyone’s posts for humour value

  111. Pat8987 says:

    I always think “what player do the Canadiens need” “who would put us over the top”

     

    And today I thought of 2 deadline moves that would do that for years to come and are realistic…(we all want the Rick Nash, Doughty and on…but these are two moves that could happen and would make us better short and long term (DO IT!) Tell me what you guys think…

    Robyn Regehr (4mil) to Montreal for Max Pacorietty and a 2nd rounder

    Dustin Penner (4.25 mil) to Montreal for Yanick Webber and a 1st rounder…..So…

     

    Penner – Gomez – Gionta

    Kost – Pleks – Cammi

    Poul – Halpen – Laps

    Moen – Eller – Darche/Pyatt

    Regehr – Subban

    Spacek – Hammer

    Georges – Gill

    Price

     

    For you guys that don’t know the west too much:

     

    Regehr is a stellar defensive d-men that has a decent shot and makes a good first pass (not Markov like) but decent enough…He is a BIG TIME shut-down guy and takes the body (could fight) and would be our best defensemen by a LONG-SHOT!

    Penner is a streaky power forward that has the ability to get his nose dirty while putting up 25 goals+ a year…

     

    Why this could happen…Both Calgary and Edmonton are struggling and a change is bound to happen (they both are in re-building stage after this year). We CAN afford these guys by dropping Hamrlik’s contract at end of year + not signing OR signing Markov to a 1 year (3mil contract)

     

  112. Everlasting1 says:

    It’s not a problem to me..just giving my 2cts.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  113. Pat8987 says:

    Max Pacorietty and Yanick Webber have no future in MTL but will be great players somewhere else…

    + we need some help NOW…this team is 2 moves away from being TRUE contenders

  114. thebigguy says:

    I’m interested to see who would rather give up a 1st round pick over 1 of those players. There’d be a riot if we got rid of Leblanc, although considering we’ll have Eller, Plekanec and Gomez ahead of him, it may make the most sense. I wouldn’t mind seeing him moved to the wing this year, as it’s unlikely there will be a spot at centre for him for years to come.

    In order of preference.

    1st rd pick

    Danny Kristo – he’s fast and was amazing last year in the junior tournament but I ‘feel’ less attached to him

    Yannick Weber – as much as offensive defencemen are hard to come by, he’s proven he can help a team this year. That may allow bubble teams with free agents to justify a trade to us.

    Leblanc – For the reasons stated above. It won’t happen, but I think our centre depth can handle it.

    Tinnordi/Paccorietty. An organizational weakness across the board is size. Both these players have it. That may be why we end up trading one of them. The habs philosophy seems to be away from players with size and more for fast 2 way players. When every version of this team lacks size, you gotta say it’s how the organization views their ability to develop these players or their utility.

     

    A quick reminder to maybe not be too attached to all these players. Had we been a good team 5 or 6 years ago, we’d be having this conversation about Plekanec, Perehzogin, Higgins, Komiserak, Ryder, Kotsitsyn and most fans would probably call Perehzogin/Higgins the most valuable.

  115. J_P says:

    I like Derek Roy, but with a 12.3 million annual cap hit committed to our top two centers for the rest of time (essentially) trading prospects for Derek Roy wouldn’t really make sense IMO. 

  116. HardHabits says:

    I hear there’s a big trade happening tonight between Detroit and Montreal. They’re gonna be trading blows and body checks and might even exchange a few nasty glances. I hear one of the teams is going to go all out and try and one up the other.

  117. thebigguy says:

    So you’re saying add 8 million dollars in salary by taking on 2 players with bad salaries which would put us over the cap. I acknowledge that players with good salaries often don’t get traded. In exchange for 2 streaky, mistake prone players, we give up 2 picks and our 2 most NHL ready prospects. Not only would this slow down our ability to fill up future roster needs with low cost young players, we’d also lose a ton of our depth. 

     

  118. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pacioretty has no future? His 15G in 25 games in Hamilton this season disagree with that. People are reading way too much into that Team 990 interview by that hack Marinaro.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  119. andrewberkshire says:

    Regher hasn’t been ‘stellar’ in about 4 years.

  120. hab_skill says:

    Don’t want either of them. The player I want… Derek Roy in Buffalo. He’s a tank and Buffalo would love some prospects.

  121. J_P says:

    I wouldnt mind having Regher, but theres no way I would trade Paccioretty (who we may very well need to replace pouliot or kostitsyn next season on the cheap) and a 2nd round pick for him. 

    As for Penner, maybe if he was making $3-$3.5 million, for $4.25 million this year and next, I hardly think its worth the 1st rounder and Weber.  If I was edmontons GM, I would make that deal in a heartbeat which leads me to believe that the oilers are coming out way ahead on that deal. 

  122. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    Not sure I would want Penner, but Regehr would be a good fit. I would hate to see Pacioretty go for him though. I think Langenbrunner is the easiest fit for us right now as a forward, as he is accustomed to this type of a system and has played with Gomez and Gionta. Plus, he would not cost us much as New Jersey needs cap relief.

    I wonder if a MEGA deal could happen with Calgary to acquire Regehr and Iginla. Probably not, but if you are going to give up makor assets, might as well swing for the fences.

  123. J_P says:

    I also think Langebrunner should be the habs target.  UFA at seasons end, and only being paid 2.8 million this year.  We could probably get him on the cheap from jersey, as you have said, and he probably would fit in well.  He’s a solid player who brings leadership, but not too much leadership that it will offset the chemistry in the room, and he brings an excellent balance of offense and Grit. 

  124. Pat8987 says:

    No disrespect, But you’ve got to be kidding right?

    Robyn Regehr is considered by many as one of the best bargins in the NHL. He is a + player on a – team…He averages over 20min per game…Now I guess if you’re an occasional fan you went to NHL.com checked his player stats and said WOW over paid…Thing is he is a defensmen…

     

    This proposal (if you wanna call it that) was a long-term one…Think about it.

    Markov? Will he be around and do we want him

    Hammer GONE!

    Spacek – 1 year then GONE

    Gill – contract up (paying him 2.5mil) *Regehr would make u forget Gill real quick*

    That’s 4 of our top 6 gone within the next 1.5 year YIKES…

     

    Let’s face it, we’ve got a STUD in Subban, so let’s line him up with a defensive d-men and let him shine…4mil for top pair D is below league average!

     

    Do you want me to elaborate on why we need a 25+ goal scorer that is 6’3’’ and will defend his teammates, go in the corners and play 13 – 15 min a game?

    Do you watch the habs?

  125. savethepuck says:

    Interesting on NHL.com looking at the stats of a couple of goaltenders this site wanted this year instead of Price.  A lot of serious lobbying late this summer for these guys to be our starter.

    Dan Ellis

    GA 49, SA 401, SV% 878, GAA 3.22

    Antti Niemi ( because he won a Stanley Cup)

    GA 42, SA 371  SV% 887 GAA 3.48

    Carey

    GA 50, SA 779, SV% 936, GAA 1.92

    I guess Carey has let in more goals than they have.

    It wasn’t very long ago, so I know you remember who you are.  Any chance people want to reply to this and say, “yeah I was one of them and I was wrong”?

  126. Ayan_SB says:

    Just because Hamrlik’s contract is done after this season doesn’t mean he’ll be gone. By the way he’s been playing, especially in the absence of Markov, i’d be surprised if the Habs *don’t* attempt to resign him to a cheaper contract.

  127. Ayan_SB says:

    Derek Roy is the one of the few consistent players on that team, along with Miller. He’s their #1 center, and I think that for the first time in a long time, the Habs with Pleks, Halpern, Gomez and Eller look very good down the middle.

    Two-way wingers are what this team needs and I’m hoping the Habs can get Jamie Langenbrunner from NJ.

  128. Pat8987 says:

    Excellent idea…that’s more of a band-aid fix but I like it….MTL NEEDS SIZE

  129. Pat8987 says:

    true, but I will continue to say this…

    two options:1) win the cup 2) compete for the cup

    If we want option one, we need to think long-term and get Subban a D-partner for the next 3-4years…(look a Chicago)

  130. Ayan_SB says:

    Pucks = #DanEllisProblems

  131. Ayan_SB says:

    I think they drafted Tinordi specifically to play alongside Subban for years to come.

    Edit: @SeriousFan – After last season’s playoffs, I was really hoping the Habs could try to get big Buff from Chicago. If the Habs really consider the Flyers as their playoff kryptonite, well Byfuglien is Pronger’s kryptonite.

  132. HardHabits says:

    Hey look. It’s Manapart’s boyfriend.

  133. J_P says:

    I dont care how many points HAMR has scored in his past few games, if we re-sign him for anything over $2 million cap hit, Ill be upset. 

  134. thebigguy says:

    No, I don’t watch the habs. I just come here to talk hockey due to a lack of moral support in my own life. Of course I watch the habs. There’s no reason to be insulting.

    Now, I assume this trade will have to happen during the offseason, because again, we don’t have the cap space to add an additional 8 million in salary during the season. Even if we could, I’m not sure adding non core players from 2 of the worst teams in the league is the solution. If I wanted a streaky top 6 forward with size that still hasn’t learnt how to use it, we can stick with Pouliot at far less of a cost. Reghyr is only a top pairing defenceman on a week team.

     

    The Robyn Reghyrs of the world are always available in free agency. I’ll be perfectly happy with Weber, Gorges and Subban, Spacek plus 2 free agents next year. Would I like to see Markov resigned, yes, on a  short deal though. He’ll probably get a Gonchar like deal (with hopefully better results). The Staal family cost Andrei Markov a good $20 million.

  135. SeriousFan09 says:

    You mean signing a defencemen to a ridiculous contract that costs you a player like Dustin Byfuglien or Andrew Ladd? Hawk’s D-core is home-grown. Not sure I want any fruit off the Calgary tree right now, toxic atmosphere of the Sutters may have done a lot of damage.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  136. Pat8987 says:

    We do have room…We had roughly 2.5 going into the year…Plus Markov’s long-term-injury…

     

    If you factor in the pro-rated way of calculating salaries we roughly have 7.5 (million) in cap-room if you’re looking at players salary on a yearly basis

  137. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Don’t mind him, he never has anything usefull to post.  He’s like the village idiot around here.

  138. J_P says:

    Ill glady trade 2 of those guys a first and second for Shea Weber seeing as he is RFA at seasons end and will probably want more money than nashville will be willing to pay.

    The only rental Im really interested in at this point (barring injuries of course to our current line-up) is langenbrunner.  High impact free agent rentals rarely help their teams achieve playoff success when acquired at the deadline.  I would give up brendan gallagher and a 2nd for langenbrunner.  

  139. Pat8987 says:

    we have the team to win the cup from now to 2-3 years down the road…He won’t be ready for 1st line duty for another 3-4 maybe 5 years

  140. Pat8987 says:

    I love Roy…But we need size

  141. Pat8987 says:

    Keith + Seabrook (long-term project)

    I would rather win the cup then re-build that make it to the cup finals 10 years in a row…

    2nd does not count in hockey

  142. Pat8987 says:

    Keith + Seabrook (long-term project)

    I would rather win the cup then re-build that make it to the cup finals 10 years in a row…

    2nd does not count in hockey

  143. SeriousFan09 says:

    Keith and Seabrook were draftees 1 year apart on CHI, not expensive trade acquisitions.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  144. thebigguy says:

    With Markov’s injury (which doesn’t get prorated), we have about 6 million dollars in cap space. The 1 million under should be able to get us a player worth b/w $2.5/3 mill once injury replacements are factored in. As I typed this up, I think, cap wise, you may be right. The prorated 1 million becomes 3 for the remainder of the season, plus Markov’s, it’d be tight, but possible.

    Now is this a good usage of our allowance from uncle Gary, no.

  145. HardHabits says:

    You’re just upset because PK talk has taken over for Halak talk.

  146. HabsPEI31 says:

    They have excellent futures, in Mtl or elsewhere, but preferably here. It’s one reason why Management has decided to give them time in the AHL to grow. Hopefully, they’ve learned from bringing Price up too early, ditto MaxPac, and equally learned from the benefits PK brings to us now, having spent last year with the ‘Dogs.

    I don’t see where the rush is to win a Cup this year. We may have surprised the other teams with how far the team went last year, but I wasn’t totally surprised. The pieces brought in needed time to gel, to learn the system. With last year’s playoffs, and this year’s excellent start, IN THE ABSENCE OF MARKOV specifically, do you not see the Habs as contenders?

    If you don’t, what’s wrong with you?

     

    “Only a goalie can appreciate what a goalie goes through.” – Jacques Plante

  147. HabsPEI31 says:

    Regehr is NOt the best bargain in the league. That title rightfully belongs to our very own Josh Georges. End of story there. Look at his contract figure! Plus, I’m in no mood to mess with a good thing between he and Gill.

    Bring Regehr in, plus Penner, even minus Hammer, you’ve left us handcuffed to resign Georges.

    Ditto breaking up the pairing of Hammer and Spaks. They work well together, and I think Hammer would resign for a lower cap hit, to stay on a team where he feels valued and is a contender.

    “Only a goalie can appreciate what a goalie goes through.” – Jacques Plante

  148. MTLForever says:

    Agreed, Patchy is here to stay and I can’t see Tinordi going anywhere when we traded to get higher up in the draft just to get him? Also, Leblanc won’t go anywhere. 

  149. HabsPEI31 says:

    I’d rather make it to the Cup final ten years running, with a chance to win it every year apparently, under your scenario, then imitate the MLB Marlins… win once, then rebuild, firehouse sale, whatever. No thanks. That is not how Les Canadiens operates.

     

    “Only a goalie can appreciate what a goalie goes through.” – Jacques Plante

  150. Everlasting1 says:

    Fanbois have taken over.

    Suggesting you to pursue a career in psychiatry would be ill-advised.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  151. Kamal Panesar says:

    I like having Subban back but am not a fan of benching Weber.  The way he’s played he deserves to be playing.  The problem is that so does Picard.  I guess that’s a good problem to have but I personally would like to see the Habs defense with both Subban and Weber in the lineup, even if only for a few games.

    I think the Habs would be a better team for it.


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  152. savethepuck says:

    So tonight Carey gets a 3 game cushion over Howard in the league lead for wins! 18 to 15

  153. habs-hampton says:

    I think eventually, we will have to rest Spacek and Hammer, (but not against Detroit). They can’t continue playing 20-24 minutes a game all year. They will have to sit and we will see Weber and Picard in and out of the lineup (and maybe Subban). This will not be a punishment, but a reward. I think all 7 d-man are mature enough to see this. It’s a long season. (82 + 22 or 23 playoff games?)

  154. soperman says:

    What I saw on TSN said that Martin would not comment on whether or not Subban was going to play, but Subban was telling the media that he would be playing.  Now that couldn’t blow up in anyone’s face….

  155. Everlasting1 says:

    Just about had enough of this nauseating PK talk. I’ve never seen any one single player get all this attention. And for what? I don’t get it. This is becoming a Subban fanboi site.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  156. habsruleworld says:

    Kamal I do not believe this is a ” Benching” for Weber

    Weber was called up, played three great games, showcase went excellently, Team knows they can depend on him when needed,

    but reality is that Subban also needs to play.

    They are sharing ice time

    I am sure Weber feels really great about what he has done during the  3 games

    Positive Weber does not feel like he is being benched though

     

     

  157. Oddball says:

    How long have you been using this site? I can think of a dozen different Habs at different times who have been the brunt of “all this attention” That’s what we do.

    Let’s see, in no particular order….Price, Halak, Eller, MAB, Kovalev, Sergei and Andre Kostitsyn, Gill, Hamrlik, Gomez, Carbonneau, Gainey, Gauthier…… have all been discussed and dissected in this forum, at one time or another, ad naseum.

    ..always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves..

  158. Big Ted says:

    Completely agreed. I’d like to see Weber and Subban both in, one because it gives us a better idea what the future of our defense will look like and two because it gives us two true right-sided D men, each of whom could play a shift on the PP. I was personally in favor of sitting Gill for one game and then either Hamrlik or Spacek the next, whoever looked like he needed the rest the most. My gut tells me though, that Subban plays tonight and that there’s a decent chance Weber gets the game against the Leafs.

  159. Everlasting1 says:

    Previous discussions were debates, not love-ins. Just saying he’s more hype than anything. Even Cammy called him primetime. Gawd.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  160. Kamal Panesar says:

    Can’t argue with you there and agree that isn’t not a “benching” per se, or at least not a punishment.  The Habs have a lot of competent NHL-calibre defenseman right now.

    For me, I’d just like to see a few games with both Weber and PK in the lineup.  I think they could add a lot of offense from the back end.

    The other possibility to consider is that the Habs are showcasing Weber as trade bait later in the season.  Either way, if the biggest problem the Habs have is scratching players that are good enough to be playing, then I think they are heading in the right direction!

     


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  161. Kamal Panesar says:

    Well said and yes, Hamr and Spatch can’t continue to eat up so many minutes.  Last year the same thing happened when Markov was out, and they both started to fade near the end of the year.

    The Habs are a good team right now and with a tweak or two could be legitimate contenders.  If they want to contend, however, they need their aging defense-core to have something left in the tank come playoff time.


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  162. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’m okay with PK and Weber playing together at some point, but how about we try that out against a team that isn’t #1 in the West? Need to pick your battles and I don’t think Martin is a fan of giving DET an opportunity to test two rookie defencemen. Wait until they play the Islanders, or hey, against the Loafs tommorow night.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  163. Kamal Panesar says:

    Well now that JM is reinserting PK into the lineup without the team having lost a game, it will be very interesting to see how he handles ice time for his two young D-men going forward.


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  164. N.B.habs fan says:

    you forgot about Breezer LOL

  165. nastyHABit says:

    P.K. hopefully has learned to play the WHITE way

  166. Kamal Panesar says:

    Makes sense.  I think there is a very real possibility that the Habs could be showcasing Weber for a potential trade in the future.  Either way, the Habs excellent play and strong record is putting them in the driver’s seat.

    They have the luxury of time and don’t have to make any moves until they find the right one.  That’s a nice spot to be in!

     


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  167. shiram says:

    The concensus on that joke is that it was overdown by about noon today.

    So while i commend you fro trying to bring laughter to this website, well it kinda failed.

    Better luck next time

  168. nastyHABit says:

    OOPS…..slip of the tongue…..i guess that was the WONG thing to say

  169. andrewberkshire says:

    Would have rathered Picard sit a game after he had his first bad game last match, but it’s understandable for chemistry reasons that Weber draws the short straw. I think Subban draws back in more due to the absence of Gomez than anything, as Jacques realized he needed a player who could skate the puck into the offensive zone.

  170. andrewberkshire says:

    Buzzkill, aren’t you glad Subban is black in the lineup?

  171. HUDSONHAB says:

    Here’s the thing… Hamr and Spach are playing well and seem to have some energy. When they start to tire and make mistakes JM will give them a rest. Suby and Web just have to stay positive and focussed and they will get their games.

    ….Hab4life….

  172. kempie says:

    Can somebody please explain the waffle incident to me? I didn’t see what happened and I know I’m missing something.

  173. habsman-itoba says:

    Does anyone else here feel that “the waffle” incident would have been blown way out of proportion had it happened in Montreal?  It would have been front and center on TSN all day and night.

  174. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Let the games begin!

    Great for Weber, still playing at his natural position.

  175. N.B.habs fan says:

    The s@# will hit the fan now with the media……

  176. Maksimir says:

    Well… not anymore…

  177. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    I can’t believe he’s still not black in the lineup!

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  178. Les-Habitants says:

    Well, TSN got that wrong

  179. 24 Cups says:

    Leblanc motivated as he prepares for world junior camp.

  180. Wops says:

    I heard PK was playing…

  181. Storm Man says:

    Good for Lord Martin….. He is paid to coach the team let him coach. I don’t think you would like Lord Martin to post things on here on how to do your day job would you? 

  182. Hockey Socks says:

    PK has to play if Gomez is out. We all saw how disastrous our zone control can be without Gomez and lets not even get started on the powerplay…

  183. HUDSONHAB says:

    The Habs have a good pp that is not scoring as much as they should. That is way better than a pp that can’t get set up or get shots and gets scored on. The Habs are a couple of good pp games away from being in the top ten in the NHL. They are #1 pk, #2 ga, and top ten 5 on 5 and #1 in their division, #3 in the East.

    Perspective people!….Hab4life….

  184. ctony says:

    Dump and chase would be a bad strategy against Detroit.  JM needs someone to carry the puck up ice and Gomez is out.  If Gomez could have played, do you think JM would have played PK?

  185. LA Loyalist says:

    Did anyone get Calgary/Habs outdoor tix? I tried like 20 times with no luck :( they said ‘limited’ but come on!)

  186. DCos says:

    I’m in the same boat as you man. Refreshed from 10:00 MST on but got nothing. Hopefully it will end up like the Stamps-Riders West Final where the cold weather caused people to almost give their tickets away.

     

    Whining, sniveling, complaining, negative “fans” annoy me. BG, PG and CP bashers….take a hike!

  187. Storm Man says:

    Yes I did :) 6 of them in sec 102 had them on my desk. I think santa dropped them off. 

  188. WestHab says:

    try singles that’s the only way i got them. One in section I as in Igloo and one in section 102.

  189. habsruleworld says:

    I was going to comment on this as well. I was on there, the second they opened up the site!

    at 10:04am, 4 minutes after the open, they would have me believe 405$ would get me 2 tickets is the A column on the extreme NorthWest end row 65 etc,,, that’s all there was left,,, major BS

    CORRUPTION LIVES! basically there are multiple other websites selling marked up tickets now for weeks, a guy has to ask themselves, HOW DID ALL THESE OTHER SITES GET ALL THESE TICKETS?  My assumption is that they offered to buy tickets slightly above the market sell value, and Heritage classic people sold them in lots.

    Rather than give the average joe public a chance at the tickets, I think this is really low.

     

    Heritage classic folks Know damn well, they are selling to scalpers, without even giving the public a chance

  190. habsruleworld says:

    let’s take the major positives!

    GREAT 3 games for Weber, what an awesome showcase for his talents.

    Price is inching in on Thomas’s numbers, while Thomas numbers are inching towards Price’s

    I believe Habs system will alllow Price to surpass Thomas.

    Team has great depth, #1 on penalty kill, #1 for team defence,

    lots of positives

    pk is back in

    go habs go

  191. canadiens26 says:

    IMO the only stat that really matters for Price right now is number of games won, which he is leading. If Thomas finishes higher in GAA or SV% it won’t bother me if Price has more games won.

  192. avatar_58 says:

    Let’s not worry about Thomas. At the beginning of the year we worried about even HAVING a goalie, now we have one of the best in the league. I don’t really care if he gets the Vezina, the fact that he’s even in the discussion is enough to put a smile on my face

  193. savethepuck says:

    Glad it’s been announced finally that PK is in.  Been on here all day, and like Tuesday, all that people were talking about was PK instead of our hockey team or the game tonight.  I’m very excited about how our team handles the latest “test”.  Wings on a 3 game losing streak and I don’t know if that is good or bad for us, I think they’ll be hungry and come out flying.  If the team handles the initial surge, that will just get Carey in the game.  Looks like Pricey has good career #’s against the Wings and we know he’ll be at his best as always.  Really looking forward to this one against tops in the West.  Drop the puck already, I’ve been killing time all day waiting for this one.

  194. avatar_58 says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=344957

    Call me a softie but I feel for the guy. Sure he floats, but really – what has Spezza and Alfredsson done? Will they go on the 4th line too? It easy to yell at Kovy for not carrying the team, but last time I checked there isn’t a letter on his jersey – maybe THOSE players should step it up first before fingers are pointed his way.

  195. DearyLeary says:

    And all the experts picked Ottawa to make the playoffs, and not Montreal.  Sweet vindication.  Frankly the two big ‘acquisition’ that the Sens have made the past couple of years have been Kovalev and Gonchar.  Two guys who are pretty creative in the offensive zone, they tried to change the culture of their team for the worse.

    When those guys don’t put up the numbers expected of them the team, predictably, falls apart.  They give up Volchenkov for Gonchar, which just felt like an awful move from the getgo for me.  The team has been consistently losing responsible players since (I guess not ironically) Martin left.  

    In trying to replace Heatley’s goals, the team lost its identity.  Whereas in Montreal they have a clear identity.  We’ve got a team that works hard, has opportunistic scoring, and great goaltending.  While I’ll dig into Martin’s safety first style a lot of the time, one of the things holding him back in Ottawa was a dependable goalie, something Montreal will have in spades for years to come.  

    Just something to chew on when a team makes a culture change that wants to include a Kovalev, and why I’d resist bringing him back to Montreal.

  196. savethepuck says:

    Kovie is a guy that has to be happy to play at 110%, not very professional but that’s the way he is.  Don’t think he’s happy where he is now.  A lot of negatives about his inconsistency, but I remember him playing a lot of good playoff games for us when we needed him.  Especially after the slap in the wrist, fake an injury to draw a penalty screw up against Boston.

  197. J_P says:

    Cory CLouston strikes again! Real effective way to use a one-dimensional offensive player…

    Clouston and Murray need to go, I think its clearly evident.  Well, at least Murray needs to go, but once a new GM comes in, no way he’s keepin Clouston.  Murray is just a bad manager because he gets a certain type of coach, but than acquires players who don’t fit that coaches style.  Doesnt even make sense. 

    I have a soft spot for kovalev also.  Sure, he was enigmatic like most russian hockey players are, but if you know what to expect from him, he’s really not that bad.  I would actually take him back as a rental, clearly Montreal is where his heart is.  I know Im probably crazy for saying that, but having kovalev as a top-6 forward looks a lot better to me than having Moen in the top-6.

  198. JohnBellyful says:

    Not one to spread to rumours – speculation’s another thing – but do you think the Habs’ No. 1 … scratch that … the Habs’ No. 2 … scratch that, too … the Habs’ No. 3 cen … okay, the Habs’ highest paid player is … well, a scratch because he has Gomerrhea? That’s right. I have it on good authority an STD (Scoring – Tabernac! – Drought) has sent Scott Gomez to the sidelines.

    So how did he get it? Well, Gomez has publicly admitted he’s got “a pretty big lower body, it sticks out a little more.” That would be his wallet. Which he probably carries around under his uniform while playing – would you leave that much money sitting around in the dressing room? In a room full of non-Americans? Didn’t think so.

    So what does a wad of greenbacks on your person have to do with Gomerrhea? Well, the only place you could carry a bundle that size while playing would be to put it inside your jockstrap (and imagine how much Gomez must have impressed the trainer when he asked for a triple X). The drawback, of course, is that it affects your centre of gravity. Your centre becomes unbalanced.

    And seeing Gomez veer in the same direction every time he crosses the blue line, you just know he dresses to the left. Bottom line: a pouch full of moolah doesn’t help you score.

    Ironic, eh, he’s a scratch because of the scratch he carries. Fortunately, Gomerrhea is a problem easily remedied. Either the G-Man takes a cut in pay – say, a couple of Halperns, a Boyd and half-an-Auld – or he leaves his wallet at home. 

    There is a third alternative. Gomez could make Gill his in-game banker. It’s not like he’s going to score anyway, and his centre of gravity could use some lowering.

     

    “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.”

  199. LA Loyalist says:

    Gomerreaha? Man, I wish I’d thought of that. As long as it’s not contagious.

  200. StevieRay says:

    Gomerrhea ..????  Funny as sh*t !!! that’s my smile for the day ..

  201. J_P says:

    That was a good laugh, well done!

  202. nastyHABit says:

    This just in…..Gomer is gonna headline on the next installment of DANCING WITH THE STARS

  203. LA Loyalist says:

    Wow! It’s a drag for me as Calgary is easy from LA. Make sure you have some Big Rock beer out there, it’s pretty good.

  204. habsman-itoba says:

    Mmmmmm…Warthog….

  205. WestHab says:

    lucky, You’ll see my kid in 102, but he’ll be in a Flames jersey.

  206. Storm Man says:

    Sounds good more Flames fans to console after the game :). 

  207. TheDagger says:

    Do you have 5 friends? Because if not I can be a good friend, provide good laughs, and can supply a mind-blowing amount of booze!

    Was trying all morning to get tickets, but to no avail.

  208. Storm Man says:

    At this point Im taking my gf and her 2 gal pals and 2 close friends. Im still working on getting 2 tickets for Timo… If it looks like the game is going to be played in -15 or lower my gf and her friends will bail and watch the game at my place in 3D. If that happens I may put the 3 tickets up for lottery on here at face value. 

  209. TheDagger says:

    Count me in on that lottery! And the 2 gal pals!

  210. GrimJim says:

    Like Dagger, count me in on that lottery.

  211. Ron says:

    Non Habs related but the laffs have announced that Komi will be out a week to 10 days with a finger injury he got from one of the 2 fights he lost againist Pitts on Wed night. So it looks like he was not benched as most thought although it did not make much of a difference with the loser laffs.

  212. Oddball says:

    That’s not what I heard. Komi hurt his finger putting somewhere it shouldn’t go during the Burke enforced leafs weekly team shower bonding sessions. Burke says it makes them more truculent. 

    Don’t ask, don’t tell.

     

    ..always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves..

  213. HUDSONHAB says:

    The wife gives me a hard time whe I get pissed off because the Bruins won a game. First and foremost I want the Habs to play well and win. Next, I want them to win their division. That means the Bruins have to lose a few, Thomas or Rask don’t matter to me.

    ….Hab4life….

  214. DearyLeary says:

    As long as the showers haven’t gone Greek we should be ok.

  215. adam76 says:

    Tonight feels like a playoff game.  

  216. thebigguy says:

    Would be nice if we get this as one come June.

  217. adam76 says:

    Its only DEC – lots can happen.

  218. savethepuck says:

    I’ve thought myself many times that all the success Martin had in regular seasons in Ottawa, the team did not have a good playoff record because of goaltending.

  219. TheDagger says:

    I feel that Hal Gill will score a goal tonight. Won’t be pretty (obviously) but I feel he is going to pop one.

  220. WestHab says:

    i believe the season tix holders were selling some of their’s on scalper sites before today.

  221. Thomas says:

    I was able to get tickets, a guy I work with is a season ticket holder and didn’t want them, so he gave me his code.  I got the “cheap” tickets at $117 a pop, with an obstructed view.  Not really complaining though, I was thinking though for all the Habs fans that did get thickets, there is a great dive back called the alcove right across from mcmahon, would be a great staging area for the habs march to victory!!


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