Boyd replaces Gomez; Subban in for Weber

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Dustin Boyd returns to the Canadiens lineup tonight, replacing the injured Scott Gomez.

P.K. Subban returns to the lineup after being a healthy scratch for three games. Yannick Weber is out.

Carey Price faces Detroit’s Jimmy Howard in nets.

237 Comments

  1. thebigguy says:

    That joke was funny the 1st 10 times it was posted.

  2. thebigguy says:

    Let’s not overreact (it’s hard here, I know).

    Weber sits 1 game and now we’re stunting his development? Look at all the young players (finally) who are playing better than we thought they would going into this season. How many folk thought Pouliot and Kotsitsyn were never going to turn into consistent players? Or Price for that matter.

    Gorges did nothing but train with the team when we first got acquired him. He was the afterthought for that 1st round pick. Sitting players doesn’t neccessarily ruin them. Fans need to stop thinking in absolutes.

  3. LA Loyalist says:

    “The Intangibles!” — coming to a theatre near you this Christmas.

  4. LA Loyalist says:

    amen.

    icetime, dominate, confidence. amen.

  5. thebigguy says:

    On the flipside, we have 4 players on pace for 25+ points. On paper, we should have balanced scoring and we do. Our 1st line has produced fairly regularly, as have our 3rd and 4th lines. It’s just that middle line, the one that brings us so many intangeables. :/

  6. SeriousFan09 says:

    What I was going to say, if Pacioretty had not been prematurely called up in 08-09 and played that year plus 09-10, he could’ve been a playoff call-up along with Subban and helped the team out then and been a roster player this year.

    Rushing players means you never really see what you can get out of them until later on as their dev gets stunted.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  7. habsruleworld says:

    you are right, Mac T even made ligth of Pang’s absence,

     

    poor panger, am sure he’s not racist, just mis-spoke is all

  8. habaddict_andy says:

    Then bring him in the playoff!?  Would that be nice or what?

  9. J_P says:

    Totally agree.  Paccioretty is really starting to find his stride down in hamilton, no point in rushing him up to the bigs again.  We’re currently playing well enough to not need him, so why mess with his development. 

  10. Gormdog says:

    Lets take a page out of the Subban development book and give Patches a year of domination at the AHL level. Have we not learned from our mistakes?!?

     

  11. J_P says:

    JM’s game plan revolves around defense and goaltending.  The big three offensive acquisitions from last year (gomez, gionta, cammy) are currently on pace for less than 60 points.  The idea of cammalleri playing with Moen makes no sense no matter how many times he tries it.  Love Moen, but he has no business playing with players like gomez, gionta and cammy.  Its not his strength.  He’s a shutdown forward.

    Totally agree that Eller, Pouliot and Cammy would probably make for a far more effective line. 

  12. StevieRay says:

    Panger ( like PK ) has also had to “sit out ” a few shows on the TSN hockey  ” panel ”  due to his over exhuberlence…..

  13. J_P says:

    I agree 100% tha tthe goalie is part of the team, however if your game plan revolves around lights-out goaltending, you aren’t much of a coach.  If you look at philly, they’ve scored 28 more goals than us, and pittsburgh has scored 21 more goals than us.  They don’t rely on lights-out goaltending to win hockey games.  We’ve allowed less goals than those two teams, but when your team is giving up over 30 shots a game on average, that means goaltending is a HUGE part of the team winning.  Carey has yet to play even one bad game and, correct me if I am wrong, we’ve yet to pull out a come from behind victory this year (by come from behind victory, i mean trailing by 2 mid-way through the second or later). 

    Carey price isnt pacing along with a 0.91SV% and 2.3 GAA, he has a 0.937 SV% and under 2 GAA.  He’s started every game except for two, and won 17 starts.  Without him playing as well as he is, this team is a .500 team.  Cammalleri and Gionta are on pace for under 60 points (although gionta has picked it up lately), and lets not even talk about Gomez.   

     

  14. scrowe21 says:

    Haha..as much as I love PK, I don’t think he’s winning any trophy this year.

  15. bwoar says:

    Sorry to see Weber sit.  Tough call by JM but these kids can roll with the punches.  Subban will have a little heat behind him to keep him in line, Weber can taste it and will keep pressing.  Neither has been out of place.

  16. sidhu says:

    If Weber is going to sit, he might as well play in the AHL.

    I’ll renew my suggestion from a previous post — to pick up Olivier Magnan off of waivers from NJ, make him our #7, play Weber in Hamilton and make him our #1 call up.  Next season, Weber can replace Hammer, who will be vacating his spot as a UFA.  Magnan can be a good temporary fill in until we get some defensive depth before the deadline.

    When is Pacioretty going to get a shot with the big club — he has an impressive 15 goals.  I’d like to see this now:

    AK46-Pleks-Cammy
    Pacioretty-Gomez-Gio
    Benny-Eller-Darche
    Moen-Halpern-Pyatt/Lapierre

    Hammer-Spaceman
    Gill-Gorges
    Picard-Subbie
    Magnan

    Deadline:

    AK46-Pleks-Cammy
    Pacioretty-Gomez-Gio
    Benny-Eller-[big forward]
    Moen-Halpern-Darche

    Hammer-Spaceman
    Gill-Gorges
    [top 4 D-man]-Subbie
    Picard

    2011-season

    AK46-Pleks-Cammy

    Pacioretty-Gomez-Gio

    Benny-Eller-[big forward]
    Moen-Lapierre-Darche/White

    Spaceman-Weber

    Gill-Gorges

    [top 4 D-man]-Subbie

    Picard

  17. thebigguy says:

    I understand that the team doesn’t want to put much pressure on Pouliot; he’s the only player on the team minus Pyatt and Plekanec who hasn’t played with Gomez and probably won’t see line 2 duty till either the end of this year or next season. It’d be nice, however, to see Camalleri play with Pouliot and Eller while Gomez is out. I just can’t help but feel that Eller/Pouliot is far more offensive than Moen/Halpern.

  18. Bugs says:

    Or if they didn’t want to fix what wasn’t broken in the last 3 games.

    Tragically misunderstood, please bite

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  19. petefleet says:

    Boyd cleared waivers didn’t he?

    ”’Price is a pleasant suprise”’

  20. petefleet says:

    Aside from his propensity to try to do too much in the offensive zone, he’s actually solid in his own zone and overall a great young player.  If Muller and the boys tell him to leave offence to the forwards except when he’s on the PP, he should be fine.  He’ll be fine.  Mistakes won’t shake his confidence.  He’s got enough of that for himself and more.

    ”’Price is a pleasant suprise”’

  21. Oddball says:

    The only way PK wouldn’t be playing tonight is if the Habs brain trust were purposely sabotaging his Calder hopes, so as to not have to buck up come contract time. 😉

     

    ..always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves..

  22. Habfan29 says:

    The same could be said for all the team at the top. Fleury has turned it around in the last 12 games, the new kid in Philly etc. The last time I checked the goalie was part of the team…..

  23. shiram says:

    Cause no one really cares alot about Boyd, and they wanna see how the prospects manage at the Nhl’s level.

    But yea thats no good reason for a coach.

  24. russianhabs4life says:

    Wondering with what intensity P.K will bring tonight, I just hope he wasn’t told to change his game too much

     

     

    GO HABS GO

  25. joshua94k says:

    We could trade Gomez for the Leafs 2012 1st Draft pick. Gomez will set up Kessels with fancy passes all season long and Kessels will fail to connect all season long. The Leafs will flounder in the standings again and the Canadiens will get more salary cap relief and a high draft pick. It sounds like a move Sam Pollock would make.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  26. nick says:

    Why call the kids up from the AHL when you have a perfectly healthy forward sitting on the bench as an extra man?

  27. avatar_58 says:

    So what happens if PK makes a mistake? This is my fear and it’s not really fair – defenceman make mistakes. When forwards do it you just miss a scoring chance or cause a turnover, when defenceman do it you could be looking at a goal against.

    I really hope he puts the benching out of his mind and plays as he usually plays – on edge. Not so much to cause stupid errors with spin moves, but enough that it helps the habs with their offensive issues.

  28. J_P says:

    Great goaltending goes a long way in making an average team look like an extraordinary team.  He got lights-out goaltending in the playoffs last year, and hes getting lights-out goaltending so far this year.  Considering how close most of the games have been so far, I would say lights-out goaltending has been the biggest factor in our excellent record. 

    Ill give credit where credit is due, but considering early season struggles by a lot of our players (covered up by tremendous goaltending), our abysmal powerplay, and the fact that he’s getting nothing out of scott gomez, I dont think ill sing his praises just yet. 

     

  29. joshua94k says:

    Yes there is a Santa Clause !!

    Now PK goes out there and play your game. Don’t show any ‘respect’ to Zetterberg, Franzen or Lidstrom.

     

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  30. Timo says:

    I was so so wrong about JM.

  31. DearyLeary says:

    Especially if it was Panger again… could you imagine the media firestorm?  I imagine PK would laugh though.

  32. habs001 says:

    not a suprise that boyd is in the line up otherwise why would they have kept him around if he does not play when there is an injury…if that is the case boyd should have been in the ahl or released…

  33. shiram says:

    Futurama for the win

  34. Timo says:

    Hahah… awesome! 🙂

  35. DearyLeary says:

    Eh, the Swiss are neutral to everything.  What makes a man turn neutral?  Lust for gold?  Power?  Or was he just born with a heart full of neutrality.

  36. tony d says:

    or he’ll be blacklisted?

  37. Gormdog says:

    *looks for the thumbs up icon*

  38. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Stop it. I’m dying.

  39. Gormdog says:

    And who says JM isnt PROGRESSIVE!!!

     

    Look at the RISK he’s taking!

  40. JustSomeguy says:

    Hmmm …

    You know …

    I’m starting to second guess my habit of second guessing the coach.

    He has the Habs punching above their weight; fourth in the league in points; fourth in GF / GA difference.

    I’m absolutely 100% willing to cut the guy some slack over his coaching decisions because, at the end of the day, he’s done one helluva job. And he’s done it with a team that, a year ago, looked like a hastily-assembled mess of random parts.

  41. WindsorHab-10 says:

    You guys are killing me. Too Too funny.

  42. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Good one Pang.

  43. DearyLeary says:

    Wouldn’t it be funny if someone interviewed him and they dropped the “how does it feel to be black in the lineup?”.  

  44. Gormdog says:

    We’re saving em’ as late season trump cards. While other teams figure out if they are buyers or sellers, we’ll trade for a top 6 – and then call up two more!

  45. Gormdog says:

    I think we can all sigh in relief – He’s black in !

  46. habsruleworld says:

    lol, poor panger

  47. avatar_58 says:

    Boyd? Eh…..I know it’s probably not the best idea but it would have been nice to see Pacioretty or Desharnais given a 1 or 2 game trial. Just for fun

  48. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I could see that.

  49. Les-Habitants says:

    OMG HOW COULD YOU BENCH WEBER!! WINNING LINEUP!!

    WINNNIIINNGGGGGG LINEUPP!!!!!!

    AHHHHHHHHH!!!! *mind explodes*

  50. Timo says:

    PK has to remember that he has to play the white way and be respectful.

  51. shiram says:

    I was thinking Pleky on the first, Halpern on the second, Eller on the third and Boyd on the fourth.
    But we’ll see what JM has up his sleeves, he seems to always keep us guessing untill the last moment.

  52. DearyLeary says:

    /rimshot.

  53. DearyLeary says:

    What it comes down to is that PK’s a better skater than Weber.  Against a team like Detroit, you need to have all your best skaters our there (unfortunately Gomez will be sitting, despite all his detractors).  Next year Weber will be a regular on the team, but this year I think he’ll be used sparingly.

  54. TheMostCupsPeriod says:

    I’m glad JM did the white thing and put PK black in the lineup!!

  55. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So you think Boyd plays 2nd line centerman? I don’t like that idea…he is cold.

  56. Propwash says:

    So, now we back to whining about Gomez???

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  57. Gormdog says:

    We are all expecting PK to play like his hair is on fire.

     

    I think, if anything, we will see his most reserved game of the year. If not only to show JM he CAN play a pure JM style game, but also to ensure he gets the call v. Toronnah.

     

    Then we will see more of the PK we’ve learned to love!

  58. DearyLeary says:

    The Swiss are neutral in all things.  They’ll let his scratch slide.  

    I wouldn’t mind seeing one of our horses sit a game and let them heal up during a particularly demanding part of our schedule (read upcoming road trip).

  59. G-Man says:

    Probably not. Eller is not having too much pressure put upon him too soon. Keeping him where is with a line that is working well and generating confidence in all 3 players (Pouliot and Darche) is a good thing. He MAY see PP action on the 2nd wave.

    Detroit for the last dozen or so years have been a great franchise. This will be a fun game to watch!

  60. petrov14 says:

    Adam P. of THN on The Habs trading Gomez

    Hi Adam, I recently read that Canadiens GM Pierre Gauthier is looking to trade Scott Gomez. It seems incredibly unlikely due to his $7.35-million-a-season cap hit, but if Gomez is still considered a top skilled center (which Bob Gainey obviously thought he was), what do you think are the chances this could actually happen?

    Is the best we can hope for is taking back players with bad cap hits or problem players? I look at Buffalo, who are apparently dissatisfied with Tim Connolly and Craig Rivet; Calgary, Atlanta and Toronto all need skilled centers and have either cap space or spare parts that can be moved for space. Also, there are building teams like Carolina and the Islanders, who could take a prospect and/or draft pick to swallow the money.

    So if Gauthier sets his mind to getting as little back as possible, or even paying to get rid of him, do you think there’s any hope of dropping that dead cap-space? Or are we stuck with a 50-point player making more than Joe Thornton for three more years?
    Thomas Levesque, Windsor, Ont.

    Thomas,

    I know this is going to sound far-fetched to those with goldfish-caliber memories, but I saw Jason Blake traded last season with my own two eyes. Consequently (or unless that was a Lost-style “flash-forward” occurrence), I never could guarantee any contract (OK, other than Roberto Luongo’s and Ilya Kovalchuk’s) is un-tradable.

    Still, it’s quite difficult to imagine a scenario that would see Gomez traded anytime before he gets to the last year of his deal (and becomes attractive as a cap room-provider).

    And to address one of your examples – do you think Buffalo would throw away Connolly’s expiring contract for the privilege of paying for 246 more games from Gomez? Maybe if the Habs threw in a prized prospect and/or a draft pick, but that seems counterproductive to me. I can’t see any GM thinking that the soon-to-be 31-year-old will suddenly re-find his game at this stage of his career.

    As I’ve noted before, if there is an amnesty period after the next collective bargaining agreement, the Habs may have a chance to dump Gomez’s final year without any penalty. But barring that, it will take a minor miracle to get him out of the Blue, Blanc et Rouge.

    ______________________________________ Long live Captain Gionta.

  61. shiram says:

    Guess he got tired of all the debate.

  62. DearyLeary says:

    lol, what in the world is going on: He’s in!  He’s out…. He’s back in again!  It’s like a whirlwind of kind of lackluster news.

  63. shiram says:

    I got tricked, it was a trap all allong.

  64. TheMostCupsPeriod says:

    JM must of read what’s going on here at HIO and changed his tune.

    Cue the counterattack of the Weber-ites!

  65. Wops says:

    Finally some PK!!!! Gooooooooooooooooooooooood

  66. Les-Habitants says:

    Wow, quick change by HIO

    Subban in now – Weber out!  Well there you have it, everyone’s on the same page!

     

    Controversey averted!

  67. Les-Habitants says:

    WHO WILL BE RIGHT!! AHHHHHH – THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING MEEEE

  68. 24 Cups says:

    Aside from the Subban soap opera, I also think this is an indication that the Habs don’t want to play Laps (or Cammy) at centre for any great length of time.  The truth of the matter is you need to have some depth down the middle.

    Boyd may be rusty but he sure will be hungry to play.

  69. RiverviewCanadien says:

    So do I finally get my wish that Lars is the 2nd line center?

  70. CBrady12 says:

    Actually, like usual, TSN is right

  71. shiram says:

    Tsn is wrong, and the sun will rise tomorow morning…
    I kinda wish they dipped into the Bulldogs lineup instead of using Boyd, but thats not biggie really, maybe its his chance to prove his worth, but will he center the second line?

    As for Subban, well there is something thats going on and we dont really know what it is, i’m just glad Weber is playing great.

  72. CBrady12 says:

    Gotta love the Montreal media…TSN says Subban is in, HIO he is out, RDS says they arent sure and CKAC says hes playing…


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