Bourque will be in Habs’ lineup for Game 3

The Canadiens held an optional morning skate in Brossard ahead of Game 3 of their Eastern Conference semifinal series against the Boston Bruins Tuesday night at the Bell Centre (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Rene Bourque, who missed Monday’s practice with the flu, was one of 16 players who took part in the optional skate. After practice coach Michel Therrien confirmed that Bourque will be in the lineup for Game 3.

Others taking part in the morning skate were goalies Dustin Tokarski and Peter Budaj, forwards Brandon Prust, Tomas Plekanec, Brendan Gallagher, Travis Moen, Michael Bournival, Ryan White and George Parros, and defencemen Josh Gorges, Alexei Emelin, Francis Bouillon, Mike Weaver, Douglas Murray and Jarred Tinordi.

Alex Galchenyuk, recovering form a lower-body injury, skated by himself.

Assistant coach Gerard Gallant spoke with Moen on the ice after practice and it looks like Moen will take Prust’s spot in the lineup. While Therrien wouldn’t confirm any lineup changes, it also looks like Murray will replace Bouillon on defence.

“You’ll know my lineup only tonight,” Therrien told reporters after the morning skate.

Brendan Gallagher celebrates his 22nd birthday Tuesday. Ginette Reno is scheduled to sing the national anthem before Tuesday’s game.

Game 4 will be at 7:30 p.m. Thursday night at the Bell Centre and the NHL has confirmed that Game 5 on Saturday in Boston will be a 7 p.m. start.

(Photo by Jared Wickerham/Getty Images)

Game 3 Preview,

Game notes

Game Day Report,

Morning skate interviews (video),

Habs vs. Bruins: A long, bitter rivalry, by The Gazette’s Katherine Wilton

Habs play down trash talk, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Prescription for Reno: Go, Ginette, Go!, by The Gazette’s Anne Sutherland

Feeding Habs fans: playoff party tips, by The Gazette’s Denise Duguay

Five keys to Game 3,

Lineup changes could be coming for Habs,

Subban stepping up in crunch time,

Therrien responds to Bruins’ comments on Price, refs,

Bruins savour Bell Centre experience, Boston Herald

Bruins can’t play into Canadiens’ hands, Boston Globe

Patrick Roy finalist for Adams Award as top coach,




  1. Just don’t stop going for the net once you’ve got the lead, boys. No JM patented defensive shell. It won’t work against the B’s.

    Go Habs, Go!!!

    Defense wins championships

    “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

  2. Hobie says:

    The Boston defence is no pushover. Tukka Rask is a good goaltender.

    Flip to the playoffs. There is no Dennis Seidenberg or Adam McQuaid. Two defencemen that helped them win the cup and make it to the finals, missing! Rask is shaky at best against Montreal.

    Putting up good numbers in the regular season is one thing, when teams are giving it anywhere from 60% to 80%. This is the playoffs, teams are going at 100%. Bruins defence hasn’t looked good.

  3. CHicoHab says:

    5 straight wins and 2 1/2 periods with a good lead.Then only 5-6 minutes changed all that from becoming 6 straight wins. We will not buckle like last year or last time. This team is different. We are not going to just throw away a 100 point season and a great playoff start because of 5-6 minutes. Chicohab is confident!!!!!!!!!!

  4. All good feelings for tonight’s game… but I still feel really dirty from game two and I’ve washed already.

    What I can’t get over is that they scored three seemingly innocuous goals within 6 minutes and I fear the Ottawa syndrome will set in on us like it did on Ottawa. If we play well tonight, then that fear will be washed away by a few Helles Dunkels!

    I’m speechless! 20 years and counting…

  5. Stanley Cup or Bust ! says:

    Wouldn’t be nice if MT has gut feeling and went with it instead of playing it safe. In lieu of Boullion he has most likely chosen Murray to replace him. Personally I think Tinordi with his size and speed would be better option against, from what I have seen, a fast skating boston team.

    Now the inspiring choice I have is to insert Beaulieu. Out of the box choice but his offensive skills might trump any slow truculence Murray will provide.

  6. Hobie says:

    Good point by Ray Ferrero. Boston’s defence has been weak so far. Pacioretty and Vanek will be able to get away from Chara tonight and really press them. It’s up to those two to win a game in Montreal by exposing that opening.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      The Boston/Bottom 4 Dmen are average at best and their weak link.
      They rely on the 5 man Unit to bail them out.

      It will be interesting to see how much Coach MT wants to match – then if so, how Julien will change up quickly to get Chara back on the ice when Max’s line is out there.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Gotta exploit Krug and his reckless pinching.. Often times races right into the corner.. I know I couldn’t make a play under that pressure from Krug, but our RW should be able to..

        ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

      • habs001 says:

        If their bottom 4 D is average at best than Rask must be the best goalie in the league as they gave up the second fewest goals…and we cant say that their forwards only care about D as they scored the 3rd most goals…

    • Kooch7800 says:

      These two games are critical for the habs. The bruins are going to be a little cocky after last game. Time to pressure their young D in Hamilton and Krug. The habs fans will be loud tonight and the habs need to score in the first period to keep the crowd pumping

    • johnnylarue says:

      Yeah, I’m looking forward to seeing what MT can whip up with that last change advantage. Boston’s forward lines have been uniformly pretty solid, but their D is definitely vulnerable…

    • Chris says:

      I’ve been getting a kick out of how many people cite Boston’s defence corps as being way better than that of Montreal.

      It isn’t. But their forwards’ collective defensive responsibility dwarfs that of Montreal. Gallagher, in particular, is a defensive liability…he has been making mistakes all over the ice. He gets a pretty big free pass because he is such a fun player to watch, but he has been awful in the neutral zone for a couple of months now.

      Hamilton and Krug are both young and make young player mistakes when pressured. Bartkowski was such a train-wreck that they had to bench him in favour of Meszaros. Chara has huge mobility issues, but Montreal’s bigger forwards seem scared of him, leaving those battles to David Desharnais.

      With Seidenberg and McQuaid out, this is a pretty weak Boston defence that Montreal should be exploiting. Thus far, they have hung 7 goals on Tuukka Rask in 2 games, so they’re not doing a bad job. They’ve just got to clean up some of their own defensive miscues, because they’ve allowed the Bruins to hang 7 on Price thus far.

  7. I dunno guys, given the adversity the Lightning had to overcome this year, I can’t see how he’s not the favorite in the poll.

    I loved Roy while he was here and was very heartbroken when he left, but despite his great first performance as coach, I still think the nod has to go to Cooper.

    Defense wins championships

    “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

    • Chris says:

      If we’re using adversity, I think that losing Datsyuk AND Zetterberg has to be up there with losing Stamkos and dealing with some St. Louis drama.

      Throw in long injuries to Alfredsson, Franzen, Helm, Kindl and Ericsson, and you’ve got a team that was just flat-out decimated by injuries yet still managed to make the playoffs.

      • Okay, so Cooper then Mike. lol

        But why is Roy first in the poll?

        Defense wins championships

        “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

  8. Psycho29 says:

    Habs will win 5-2 with an ENG.
    A goal each for Patches and Tommy V.

  9. CHicoHab says:

    I hope we throw everything at them tonite. Starting with Ginette Reno’s anthem. As it ends I’d like to see her fist pump her chest 5-6 times followed by a left and right hand ball squeeze motion while staring down the Bruin bench.

  10. Fransaskois says:

    If there’s one thing that’s really bothered me so far this playoffs it’s our defence. A d-corps that struggles with mobility and moving the puck is not a successful d-corps (IMO). It is so easy to exploit our defence pairings if the opposing forwards have any modicum of speed or physicality – I think that needs to change.

    Lacking Mobility:
    Emelin, Markov, Murray, Bouillon

    Lacking Physicality:
    Markov, Gorges, Weaver, Bouillon

    Lacking Puck-Moving Ability:
    Murray, Bouillon, Weaver, Emelin, Gorges

    BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE, we have an in-grown solution: good drafting. I sincerely hope Nygren, Beaulieu, and Tinordi are given an opportunity to play next year. Our transition is weak, our PP is horrible, and we struggle to play against physical forwards. These are all issues these young players can help address and I hope our coaching staff sees that. It’s a shame they can’t help now.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      Check your Cornflakes for piss before you eat them next time bud.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • Frozen Village says:

      Pateryn as well.

      D is an experience position though. You need more than just rock stars back there. Given our depth of blue liners in the system, it would have been nice to have 2 of the rooks in the top 7 now.

      You from Gravelbourg, Fransaskois ?

      More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

      • Fransaskois says:

        Not from Gravelbourg, no. I’ve lived all over the place but, like many French Canadian’s from Saskatchewan, I’ve got relatives in all the primary communities there. Can’t say I’m still in touch with anyone though, mostly just distant cousins.

  11. PeterD says:

    It’s time for MaxPac and Vanek to put their big boy pants on and start producing.
    the team needs their offence now more than ever.
    go habs go

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Vanek had two goals last game.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Vanek had 2 goals in Game 2.
      He did his part.

      And please don’t forget that this Boston team held the Pittsburgh Pens to 2 goals in 4 games during the East Final last year.

      All of Crosby-Malkin-Neal-Letang, and the Cup chasing, team changing Iginla were held to ZERO goals and ZERO points in those 4 games.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        Subban scored 2 goals off Vanek’s stick 😉

        I call a 4-1 Habs win.. The B’s goal will be late once Price is indifferent.

        ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • Maritime Ronn says:


        • Chris says:

          Oh, the second one was all Vanek. There are not many players that can get their stick on that shot and tip it so perfectly. That was the kind of play that made me excited to see Vanek added to the team. He is not the fastest skater, and he often looks disengaged in the neutral zone.

          But he WILL go to the front of the net, and he is perhaps the best forward in the league at getting his blade on pucks while battling defencemen.

  12. Maksimir says:

    Home ice advantage? Doomed?

    Bruins are 14-1 in Game 3 under Julien.

    Bruins only win of the regular season was a 4-1 win in Montreal.

    Boston won games 3 & 4 in Montreal during the 2011 playoffs.

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      And? 🙂

    • FlyAngler says:

      and don’t forget, Tukka Rask 4 wins in 18 starts against the Habs……..

      “Elever le flambeau!…Raise the Torch!”

    • CharlieHodgeFan says:

      We seek patterns where they may not exist. Every year, teams mutate and change. The Montreal Canadiens are not the Montreal Canadiens of even five years ago, and every game is played anew.

      The Bruins are 14-1 in Game three. Meaningless.

      • JohnInTruro says:

        After tonight it will be 14-2.

      • I agree, which is why I am so confused as to their less-than-stellar showings in the first two games.

        Getting a lead and then sitting on it is Count Jacques-ula era play. We have been much more resilient and aggressive since those days.

        What’s happened to change that?

        I think they’ll get back to their usual style at the Bell Center. Having last change can only help them to return to form.

        Defense wins championships

        “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” St. Thomas Aquinas

    • johnnylarue says:

      Tuukka was 0-9 in Boston against the Habs… and then Game 2 happened.

  13. JohnInTruro says:

    Briere needs show something tonight, but this is very unlikely on the 4th line. Let’s see where Therrien has him tonight, he could be a game breaker tonight in Hab land, he is due.

  14. RJ says:

    The Broons coach and players could learn a lot from the way Bill Belichick and the Patriots handle the media. For a team that is the favourite to win the Cup, they seem very concerned about the Habs and whining an awful lot. They have not conducted themselves as frontrunners. Seems like they are finding lots of excuses for when they are upset.

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  15. Maksimir says:

    If I were Bourque and suffering from the flu… I’d make sure that after each whistle I’d start a little scrum with Boston players, spit in my glove, and give them a lovely bacteria filled facewash! 🙂

  16. Mavid says:

    The honey badger turns 22.. Wow I have shoes older than is to hoping he gets at least one birthday goal..the GWG would be really nice

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  17. FlyAngler says:

    Per TSN 690:

    The Habs are 7-1 this year in games officiated by Chris Rooney (who happens to be a Boston native). The Bruins are 4-3 this year in games that Rooney has worked.

    Despite some past bad juju with Tim Peel, the Habs are 4-0 in games that Peel has worked this year.

    Bruins fans are whining loudly that both are “whistle happy” and I can remember Lucy becoming furious with Rooney in last year’s Cup finals because Rooney called a penalty on him.

    The fact that both call penalties and don’t allow mayhem probably bodes well for the Habs- ergo the outrage from the Gooins camp.

    “Elever le flambeau!…Raise the Torch!”

  18. habs001 says:

    Hopefully 2 years from now the Habs will have a much younger D that provides much more offensive help.clears the puck out of the zone much easier and is more physical…I still think the Habs D is their weak link..I know lot of posters disagree but let me ask you…Would you feel confident or worried if the Opposition team had the Habs starting 6 D…

    • Maksimir says:

      I agree – even though Markov & Gorges have played well so far, outside of Subban & Emelin – we need a younger/stronger D.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Emelin isn’t young. I believe he is 28. Currently in his prime.

        Emelin hasn’t been stellar yet in this playoff. When he is hitting people you know he is on his game.

      • Chris says:

        The younger will happen organically, as both Weaver and Bouillon are likely gone after the season ends to make room for Beaulieu and Tinordi or Pateryn.

        But the Habs defensive issues are largely due to the defensive weakness of the forwards…I really don’t understand why people continue to overlook this.

        Look at how many of the goals are coming from guys the forwards should be covering. Watch how many of the plays result from defensive miscues or turnovers by the forwards. And most importantly, watch how soft some of the Habs forwards are at getting the puck through the neutral zone: Gallagher and Briere are particularly guilty of this.

        • Maritime Ronn says:


          Perhaps so, yet can you please explain why the Habs 6 Man D Unit collapses towards their goalie more than any other team?

          Most other teams meet a rush at the Blue Line, or at worst, before the top of the face off circle.
          The Habs?
          They almost collapse upon Price.

          • Chris says:

            I think they do it because the Habs forwards are among the worst in the NHL at running interference in the neutral zone. This is also why I think that Gorges, Markov, Subban, Weaver, Bouillon and Emelin take such a pounding.

            Watch the Bruins…even when you try to forecheck, they are very good at cutting in front of the forechecker just enough that he can never get a full head of steam up, but (usually) not so much that they draw an interference call. Most teams do this, making it at least a bit harder for the forecheckers.

            The Habs forwards basically get out of the way and watch their defencemen get creamed. It has driven me nuts for a few years now…that is simply a work ethic thing. The Habs forwards want to coast when the puck is going the wrong way, conserving their energy for the next rush, while the forwards on the truly elite teams have their feet moving more on defence than they seem to on offence.

            This also manifests itself in the defensive structure: for teams like the Bruins, the Kings, the Blackhawks, etc., they are usually skating hard enough to get a forward back to help stand up the rushing forward at the blue line. You just don’t see that from most of the Montreal forwards. Plekanec does it, and Gionta works hard. Eller does it on occasion, but the rest of the forwards are a train-wreck in that regard, either because they are too slow (Prust, Moen) or they would rather do a drive-by poke-check and watch the other team skate away if they miss (Pacioretty, Vanek, Gallagher, Briere, Desharnais).

            If anything, I think the Habs are a little too impatient in the neutral zone, looking for the interception/takeaway and breakaway, instead of being willing to work for a while until the turnover happens organically.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        You Never, Ever, let a player like Markov go. Keep him through his twilight years as a #6.

        ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • zephyr says:

      most teams can’t match subban & markov. emelin is good & georges is serviceable – he just has a tough time with big guys. weaver is about the same as georges.
      we need to get rid of gio & briere & our fwd lines will improve.
      we need to keep pressure especially on the bruins younger dmen. they’ll make mistakes.

  19. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …during Subban’s regular season ‘malaise’ …did I not emphatically state that come playoff-time that P.K. will ‘Kick Ass’ ? …as they say in Bawstin

    …I’m uncanny, am I not ?

  20. The Jackal says:

    The Habs are going to win tonight!
    DD line with score some goals, Price will be excellent, and the D will shut down Boston more effectively.
    MT will probably bench a guy or two at one point, only to have them score a goal later in the game.
    Fans will be frustrated at the team at some point and with a player at another point.
    Julien will not like a penalty call or two.
    Chara will be booed.
    PK will have another good game.
    Eller and Bork will continue their renaissance.


    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  21. Sportfan says:

    Blue Jays are having problems again

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    • Paz says:

      The Jays have played 500 on the road in 20 games, and only 12 games at home where they are 2 games under 500. And they’re only 1.5 games out of first place.

      Not a bad place to be at all.

      • Sportfan says:

        Its not bad, but they could have been in a much better spot now had their bullpen not implode like it had recently.

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        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          7 times they have blown a 3 run lead in the 7th inning or later (4 of those being 5 run leads).

          No other team in the AL east has blown more than 2 leads of 3+

          ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

        • Mr_MacDougall says:

          The big mistake was thinking the Pen would be great again this year with Delobar losing 5mph on the fastball, Perez gone, Oliver gone, Jansen out… It’s just a small piece, but I think they should have kept Villeneuva, and awesome long relief pitcher that is a serviceable 5th starter when needed, crafty vet with 4 pitches….

          ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      The Jays are in amazing shape. The offence is clicking, Morrow is gone, the starters are getting a feel, Stroman is up (bullpen help).

      AA just has to realize that Redmond and Rogers are not worth “protecting because they’re out of options.” Send them down, if they don’t clear, big deal. In a situation where the Jays need Rogers and Redmond, the season is likely shot anyway.. Call up Sanchez and Nolen, a lefty and a righty with electric arms.. Use them out of the pen as they are capped at 140-160 innings this year anyway, may as well be in the bigs.

      ~~ Plekanec at the Disco ~~

  22. habs001 says:

    Habs in the last few years have had games at home where they dominated in the first with lots of scoring chances and could not finish and the oppostion ended up scoring first on minimal opportunities and for the next 2 periods the team deflated…If this happens the team has to make sure that they keep up their energy for the whole game…

  23. Danno says:

    Expecting amazing things tonight from the Birthday Boy!


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  24. ffenliv says:

    The best news of all: Ginette Reno singing the anthem!

    I love when I start a game off feeling happy. Don’t know how long it’ll last, hopefully the whole night!

  25. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …anyOne here know whether playing Beaulieu in this series affects/shortens by a year His eligibility for RFA ?

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      He becomes an RFA in summer 2016.
      Details are too long to post here in terms of games played and ‘slide’

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …thanks Ron, I had been wondering if this may have been a factor in Bergevin’s/Therrien’s decisions …but, obviously not

        • Chris says:

          Basic rule of thumb…if the player isn’t in junior, his contract counts regardless of whether he is in the NHL or AHL or sitting on the bench in one of those two leagues.

          The only thing that matters is if they are still junior eligible, where the team keeps them up for more than 9 games. Once you hit 10 games, the clock starts running on their contracts.

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          Cool HiS
          On a slow summer day after these intense playoffs, I’ll post all of the CBA conditions and how the lawyer stuff works re RFA and ELC slide stuff

      • Strummer says:

        Do you think he could help the big team these playoffs as 5/6?

        “You are not T.J. Oshie. Do not shoot pucks at people without a helmet.”.

        • Maritime Ronn says:

          Hi Strum

          Here’s thinking Nathan’s time will come next year.
          He will have to seize that moment and convince the Habs management that he is better than any Top 6 they have – or acquire.
          It would take multiple injuries for him to slot in at this time

  26. Maritime Ronn says:


    Your posts are enjoyable and present a different light and are always well researched.

    Just a few thoughts.

    1) You state, ” during the regular season the habs best….”

    Granted, yet the Habs are now playing ONLY the Bruins, and not several different opponents of a regular season.
    Even stats accumulated during the regular season against the Bruins mean very little now.

    This is a 5-6-7 game playoff ‘war’ playing the same opponent over and over again with the added pressure.
    Playoff hockey allows for Total Concentration of not only ‘player against player,’ yet coaching staff against coaching staff.

    The weak links in the chain become defined – then a good coaching staff sells the strategy to exploit them.
    There is NOWHERE to hide in a Series.
    ALL will be exposed.

    2) You also mention, “… replacing Bouillon with a slower skater is , in my opinion, not going to help much.”

    While you may be correct, I was also trying to figure out what the advantages could possibly be in this shuffle, as it surely is not about mobility.

    The only item I could come up with was giving the now 28:01 minute man Andrei Markov a break on the tough 2nd Unit PK minutes…and perhaps making sure he is more fresh in the 3rd period in critical Even Strength situations.

    Bouillon has not played 1 second of PK time, and Murray will surely be on the 2nd Unit

    Some posters have mentioned the ‘clearing the crease’ factor, yet that has been a non-issue…so far.
    The Bruins are layering their screens – moving the puck horizontally, which has nothing to do with the crease area.

    Perhaps the only other reason is Coach MT making a statement that the Habs will not be pushed around in their own barn.
    Then again, Murray will not play more than 12 minutes of Even Strength time…

    • Cal says:

      So, Ronn, I guess you missed Chara standing in front of Price on the PP?

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        hi cal

        Nope – didn’t miss it..
        But a question for you, cal.
        If Chara takes a ‘legal position’ in front of Carey – and a Dman tries to move him out by either a cross check in the back, a slash, a high stick…what do you believe the outcome will be?

        The refs may tolerate a player trying to get better positioning, yet they will call those types of infractions…even if anyone has the courage to do so against a Chara in front of the net.

        • Chris says:


          The only way you are moving Chara if he is established is by risking a penalty. And the referees have been calling a surprising number of penalties on defenders trying to “clear the front of the net” in these playoffs…I’ve seen those calls in a number of games in different series now.

          Defencemen don’t quite have the carte-blanche for stick mayhem that they’ve had in previous playoff years, so clear the front of the net at your own peril.

          • Forum Dog says:

            He might not be able to clear him out without penalty, but he’ll have a much easier time tying him up and/or boxing him out than pretty much any other MTL d-man. I think that is the value.

          • Chris says:

            Forum Dog: How? If he can’t do without a penalty, all he is doing is putting another big body in Carey Price’s sight line, another body that can deflect pucks by him.

            Murray is good in certain situations: like Hal Gill, he is a decent penalty killer due to his long reach and the fact that he isn’t typically expected to move too much from a small box in front of the net.

            Where Murray absolutely kills you is 5-on-5. His utter lack of mobility means that even routine recoveries of dump-ins become adventures because he can’t get there before the forechecker and the inevitable cycle game starts up.

            If I had to peg the two greatest weaknesses for the Habs in the playoffs, it has been covering the point-men on zone entrances by the opposition and fighting the cycle game, where they have been routinely manhandled by the Bruins.

            Murray won’t affect the former (that is more on the forwards), but he definitely can cause more of the latter. And more disturbingly, he’s so slow that he risks getting turnstiled by the speedier Bruins forwards. As a LD, he is going to be getting a steady diet of Jarome Iginla, Reilly Smith, and Loui Eriksson rushing at him. Worse, both Krejci and especially Bergeron, as right-handed shots, tend to drive the right side of the ice, and that presents a massive speed mismatch for Murray, as they are two of the fastest Bruins forwards.

            Markov has had his hands full with the Bruins because they are generally challenging his side of the ice, and he is far more mobile and positionally sound than Murray.

            I sincerely hope that Murray’s physical play and veteran smarts make up for a lot of paper vulnerabilities. I’ll be happy to eat crow tomorrow if Murray plays a dominant game tonight. 🙂

          • Maritime Ronn says:


            Here’s agreeing with you.
            This playoffs concerning that has been different from the past

          • Forum Dog says:


            I personally hope that Murray doesn’t have to play more than about 12 minutes. And I agree that his lack of mobility is an issue. But the Habs lack of size in their own zone was also an issue in the last couple of games, so you are essentially trading one for the other.

            I am basically hoping that 240lbs of Murray will make it a lot harder for guys like Lucic and Iginla to even establish themselves in front of the net. As in, when they curl out of the corner, Murray either stuffs them or makes them go around. That and he is likely to block more shots, if for no other reason than his incredible mass.

            The Habs will not win – and hopefully not lose – this game based on Murray’s play. He is in there for one reason only: To make the Bruins pay for their play down low.

            GO HABS! ALLONS-Y!

        • Cal says:

          The outcome will be Chara on his backside and, voila!, no screen.
          They don’t call Chara hacking and chopping away, so I don’t think they’ll mind Murray laying on the body.

          • Maritime Ronn says:


            In all honesty, if a Habs player had the Courage (and Strength) to knock Chara on his butt hard, it would be well worth a penalty – even if the Bruins scored.

            That could/would be a game or series changer as when Bickell nailed Chara last year in Game 4 of the Cup Finals.

            The Hawks then went on to win Games 4-5-6, and Chara was Minus-6 in those last 3 games.

    • SteverenO says:

      @ Ronn; I like reading your posts as well –

      I agree 100% that Markov should be given less time on the PK unit, in fact IO would not play him at all when killing penalties.

      Murray could help in that regard but my guess is that Therrien will continue to overplay Markov despite his having been for only two goals for in 132 minutes of even strength playoff action compare to Bouillon and Weaver 7 goals scored in 82 and 84 minutes respectively.

      I also agree that stats accumulated during the season are not so important in the playoffs, but does that mean that the best two line should NOT ever play together even when the team is being outplayed and dozens of new combos are being put together?

      Replacing Murray for Bouillon will NOT help us score more even strength goals. The line that should be playing together and getting the most ice time agianst the bruins top line is Briere/Plekanec/and Gionta.

      If we lose WITHOUT this combo playing together, I could never agree that this coach gave us our best chance to win


      Steve O.

      • Forum Dog says:

        I actually think Murray could help them score more even strength goals, since he might be able to withstand the Boston forecheck and give others space to move the puck. It’s true he’s not likely to drop down to the top of the circle and fire one past Rask (a la Cube), but with the 9 minutes of ice Frankie Boo got last game, I’d say that is unlikely to happen again anyway.

        • SteverenO says:

          @forumdog ;;

          Anything CAN happen, however during the reg season the Habs scored a total of 13 Goals with Murray on the ice at even strength – in 628 minutes,, an averageof one GF every 46 minutes.

          Compare to Bouillon ; Habs scored 32 goals in 828 minutes of even strength ice time; an average of one goal every 26 minutes

          by the way when killing penalties Bouillon played 26 minutes and one goal was allowed , Murray played 151 minutes and 13 Goals allowed. ( average one PP GA every 11.5 minutes)


          Steve O.

      • Maritime Ronn says:


        Re Markov/Emelin

        My guess would be they were playing against Much tougher/Top 6 competition than Weaver/Bouillon were.

        There are also a few schools of thought playing Murray on home ice.

        Some say his size is a factor, and that coach MT can protect him better with a last change playing him in O Zone or neutral zone starts.

        The argument there is that playing Murray in O zone starts denies either the Subban or Markov pairings of getting things going with the O abilities.

        Hockey is such a great chess game…over and above everything else.

        • SteverenO says:

          you are undoubtedly correct about Markov and Emelin playing against tougher competition then Weaver and Bouillon.

          Question is should they be? If they are allowing more goals than we score they either need to be split up or be played against weaker opposition. Murray and Weaver have been on for more goals scored and fewer goals allowed… perhaps they should be given some “tougher” minutes.

          Also its just my personal opinion, but I am not sure that zone starts make that huge of an impact. You would have to look at winning faceoffs versus losing faceoffs in the different zones and goals scored off the faceoffs


          Steve O.

    • Chris says:

      And I agree whole-heartedly here, too. The layered screens that the Bruins have been using should be taught to junior players: they are executing that gameplan flawlessly, and it is nearly impossible to counteract.

  27. Habitant in Surrey says:

    ‘The teams hate each other. The fans hate each other. Now that Montreal’s Michel Therrien is mocking the postgame commentary of Julien, it would appear that even the coaches hate each other.

    Oh, and given that some Montreal pressbox hack is taking shots at the Boston media, I guess even the sportswriters don’t like each other.

    But nobody hates playing in the Bell Centre, even if it will appear that way three minutes into the first period tonight when Marchand gets sent off on some “crap” call.’

    Steve Buckley, The Boston Herald

  28. SteverenO says:

    Plekanec with Bournival and Gallagher? oy vey!

    so far they have played in the playoffs for 7 minutes of even strength time and allowed two goals against;

    They never played together in the regular season but compare Plekanec with Bournival and Gionta:
    5 GF / 6 GA in 176 minutes regular season even strength

    with Plekanec and Briere with Gionta:
    11 GF / 1 GA in 181 minutes regular season even strength.

    Therrien juggled lines all season, Plekanec played more than 30 minutes at even strength with 10 different sets of wingers, and despite ONE combination standing out BY FAR as the best combo both offensively and defensively he refuses to play them together when it matters most.

    He (Therrien) threw together mostly brand new combinations for the playoffs, and because they were effective against a weaker opponent (Tampa Bay) he figured that he found the “magic” formula to beat the Bruins. Now that they have been outplayed two games running he is scrambling again to come up with new combos… why not use the line that has PROVEN to be the best over the course of the season?

    While I will admit that Therrien has been very good in some areas of coaching his lineup, his personnel choices are poor… very poor.

    I am also not in favor of the style of play.. having his team collapse down low in the defensive zone and blocking lots of shots.

    Price is a great goalie and will stop (almost) all the shots that he can see and are not deflected.
    The team would be better off if they covered the opposing point men , and played man for man in the defensive zone. Let the goalie block the shots and have the players keep the opponents away from the front of the net, pouncing on and clearing any rebounds and transition quickly from defense to offense with fast breakouts (hard to do when you are sprawling all over the ice trying to block shots).

    Instead of blocking shots, get out of the way and let Price see the puck and make the saves. A “good” blocked shot is when Carbonneau used to block the shot from the point man near the blue line. A bad blocked shot is Georges or Markov, blocking shots near the goal crease. Guess what? if the defenseman could block it chances are the goalie could , too. Let the defencemen do their job of tying up their man and not lettingthem get deflections and rebounds.


    Steve O.

    • Stanley Cup or Bust ! says:

      You nailed it.

    • Forum Dog says:

      I’m not huge on Bournival-Plekanec-Gallagher, but I wouldn’t be all that interested in seeing Briere up there either. Unless the winger on the opposite side is over 6′ and 200lbs, and likes to skate into people.

      I would not be too focused on getting Plekanec’s line scoring, and would be more concerned with having DD and his comrades get loose. I think Tommy should focus on shuttering the opposing team’s lines. Give him guys who are tenacious and can skate/hit.


      Or flip the RWs or LWs on Plekanec’s and Briere’s respective lines.

  29. adamkennelly says:

    it appears Murray will be in – a move I agree with.

    Moen drawing in for Prust – I’d rather see White come in but I highly doubt that happens.

    Moen is less likely to take a bad penalty – along with being less likely to irritate the Bruins, win a face off or start a scrap.

    I’d go Whitey.

  30. Danno says:

    It was 1957.

    The first player to break the NHL’s colour barrier was a Boston Bruin.

    Willie O


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

  31. JF says:

    Max Pacioretty should shake hands with Ginette Reno as he steps onto the ice. It worked for Daniel Brière. Maybe Desharnais and Vanek should do it too.

  32. filincal says:

    I want me some free wings tonight !

  33. SteverenO says:

    Case of (missing) Briere);

    It goes, without saying) that if the Habs continue to play the series the way they have so far it will require a miracle ( and a spectacular Carey price) for them to win any, let alone three, more games.

    Many here are saying that size is the issue- the Habs are just not big enough, or tough enough to compete with the big bad Bruins.

    While it is true that the Bruins are the bigger team, the problem is that (so far) they have also been the faster and more skilled) team.

    What can be done to change the way the games are being played?

    replacing Bouillon with a slower skater is , in my opinion, not going to help much. In the first two games Bouillon has been on for one goal for and two goals against. Its unlikely that Murray will do any better.

    On the other hand a small change ion the lineup and line combos may make a big difference: during the regular season the habs best two way line was Plekanec, with Briere and Gionta. That line was played a total of 181 minutes and 25 seconds together at even strength. The line was a + 10 as the team scored 11 goals and allowed only one goal during that span.

    the next best line was Desharnais, with Pacioretty, and Vanek. They saw a similar amount of even strength ice time (190 minutes) and they were a +7 with the team scoring 16 goals and allowing 9 goals against while the DD line was on the ice.

    The problem with the current lines are that when Plekanec plays with Gallagher the team allows as many goals as they score. Therrien likes to play Plekanec against the other teams top lines especially with a lead in the third period. Good as he is offensively, Gallagher is NOT the player that should be most heavily relied on to “hold” a lead in the third period. That is a role that Gionta excels in.

    Incredibly, Therrien would often replace Briere with Moen in the third period (in the few games that Plekanec lined up with Briere and Gionta) and the team had a lead, Statistically when playing with Moen and Gionta, Plekanec’s line allowed 3 goals in 97 minutes while scoring only once. An even goal allowed every 32 minutes is not bad, but not nearly as good as one goal allowed in 180 minutes.

    There has also been alot of comments about The DD, Patch/Vanek line not producing, and this is true but NOT the reason we are losing. While they have only been on the ice for one goal scored in the playoffs so far they have only been on for one goal against in the 6 playoff games so far.

    Prust, it is said, is not contributing, and is obviously playing hurt, he has only been on for one goal against and has also been on for one goal scored in 26 minutes of even strength time vs the bruins.

    If the coach, or anyone else, thinks that replacing Bouillon and Prust with White and Murray will improve the teams chance s of winning they are , in my opinion, wishful dreamers. Replacing Bournival with Moen is even less likely to help the team win

    This is playoff hockey, and allowing even strength goals is NOT acceptable, especially if you allow more than you score.

    These lines offer the optimum chance of winning: (based on the expected personnel to be dressed)

    Prust (or White)/ Bournival/ Weise

    In my opinion the only poersonnel change that could change even up the decide edge that teh bruins are having in teh play would be to dress our faster skating defensemen (especially Beaulieu and secondly Tinordi)

    Any game in which Briere,Plekanec, and Gionta do NOT play together as a line is a game in which our coaching staff has made a mistake and is not giving the team their best chance of winning.

    Not recognizing, as the Bruins have that the team is better with a good mix of younger faster skating defencemen is another mistake of Habs coaching and management.


    Steve O.

    • FormalWare says:

      No way should Therrien remove Gionta from Eller’s line. He’s been the straw that stirs that particular, potent cocktail!

      WWSD (What Would SubbieDoo?)

      • SteverenO says:

        Gionta was stirring the cocktaill just as well when it was Plekanec and Briere beside him . Also why can”t Gallagher stir the Eller and Bourque cocktail?


        Steve O.

        • Chris says:

          Gionta is a way better fit for the Eller-Bourque combo because he is so defensively responsible. Gionta is fully capable of playing the centre position defensively when Bourque and Eller go in deep on fore-checking sallies.

          Gallagher is, without a doubt, the worst defensive forward on the team. You have no choice but to play him beside somebody defensively responsible to cover up for that glaring flaw in his game. Putting him on with Eller and Bourque would disrupt the mojo of that line as Eller would have to drop higher in the zone to cover for the break-out, which takes away the effectiveness of that duo.

    • Paz says:

      Thanks for the information.
      I think Therrien split up Plekanec and Gionta to give more balance of defence and experience to Eller’s line.
      Boston’s offence is so balanced he could not use Plekanec alone as a shut down line, he needed 2 strong defensive lines.

      • SteverenO says:

        Eller is strong defensively and so is Bourque. I am not certain that Bourque”s sudden emergence as a two way player had much to do with Gionta.

        Plekanec and Gionta with Briere was our BEST defensive line this season and also our second best offensive line ( after Patch/DD/Vanek).

        There is no good reason to keep them apart. A real coaching blunder in my opinion.


        Steve O.

        • Paz says:

          Eller and Bourque can defend, but they also make bad reads in the offensive zone, and Gionta often covers up these bad decisions by staying high. The difference defensively between Gionta and Gallagher on Eller’s line is significant. Gionta has terrific experience as well.

        • Chris says:

          The Briere-Plekanec-Gionta line is too small to play the Bruins. They would get worn down.

          That line had a few chances throughout the season. They were together in games 22-29 of the regular season, where the three players combined for 7 goals and 17 points in those 8 games, playing a total of 68:07.

          Therrien went back to that well in games 43-45, and the line responded with 4 goals and 9 points in those 3 games, playing a total of 33:46. Most of the damage came in the first game, where the three combined for 3 goals and 6 points in a January 4 game against the Senators.

          They had one final hurrah, playing together in games 55-59. Things didn’t go quite as well for the line in their 56:48 of ice time, despite good production from both Plekanec and Gionta individually. They combined for 4 goals and 6 points in 5 games, but only Briere’s goal came with them out as a line. Gionta scored one 4-on-4 with Plekanec and added an empty-netter when on with White and Prust, while Plekanec potted his goal while out with Desharnais and Gallagher.

          After that, Therrien did not go back to them. I agree that he perhaps should have used them more in certain situations, but I don’t think the Bruins are one of those situations. That line does not have a great balance for the Bruins, who feature 4 lines that are all solid defensively, good skaters, and can all out-muscle that line.

    • Butterface says:

      Enjoyed the post. Informative.

      I don’t mind your forward lines as long as White goes in for Prust on the 4th.

      I think playing Murray is an attempt to quell Chara at the net on a PP and also clear the screens that caused many of the goals on Price in the 3rd period.

      Let’s see what happens while we have the last change prior to face off.

      Also is your goals for and against stats versus each line when Montreal plays Boston or on every team in the league ?

      Cause right now the only team that matters is Boston.

      If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…..

  34. Mattyleg says:

    Hey Gang!

    Getting psyched up for the game tonight!
    I’ll be there, and I’ll come home hoarse, regardless of the result.

    Brewing some beer in the sunshine today.
    This one is called ‘Le Démon Blond’ Blonde Ale.

    Smells good, and can’t wait to get it fermented and bottled!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  35. Fargo Habs Fan says:

    First post since the name was changed from Habs to Hockey insideout.

    I have a serious concern and need help from all you fine people (and Timo). I have worn the same clothing for each playoff game, only the socks and undies have been washed. Roy jersey, nice jeans now covered in bulldog hair/slobber and black shoes.

    What is the criteria for tonight’s game? On one hand, these threads are 5-1. On the other, they are riding a 1 game losing streak. Do I change, wash, or neither? Thoughts?


  36. Habitant in Surrey says:

    Tikku Rask, commenting on the electricity inside the Bell Centre, delivered the ultimate compliment: “It’s obviously the best place in hockey from that standpoint. It’s kind of like soccer inside a stadium. It gets really, really loud, and they’re really into it. There’s no better place for a hockey player to play.”

    Can’t you just see the headline in tomorrow’s Montreal Gazette?

    “Boston keeper says Bell Centre is ‘best place in hockey.’ ”

    But for any kid dreaming of playing in the National Hockey League, the dream includes playing in Montreal. Same with kids who dream of playing big league baseball: The dream includes playing at Yankee Stadium.

    OK, so the Bell Centre isn’t the Montreal Forum and the new Yankee Stadium isn’t the old (refurbished) Yankee Stadium. But you get the idea: Professional athletes love these places. They love the atmosphere, they love the electricity and, in a weird way, they even love the booing.’

    Steve Buckley, Boston Herald


  37. GrosBill says:

    I have posted this before on here a couple times. Never saw it linked to an article on HiO but it is from Jan.

    To those speculating if Prust is 100 %, wonder no more. He has not been all year and it was a poorly kept secret…

    • Mr. Biter says:

      I posted that Prust was not 100% after being at the Habs/Jets game way back in October.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

    • johnnylarue says:

      Thanks for the post, Bill.

      Indeed, the diagnosis is practically a formality–Prust looked like he could barely clutch his hockey stick, let alone lay a bone crushing check on a Bruins D-man.

      He’s still a smart, ‘positionally sound’ hockey player, but Brandon Prust minus the sandpaper is not gonna do much for you in a playoff series against the Boston Bruins.

      • GrosBill says:

        Sad but true, Johnny.

        I felt he looked great in the couple of games before he got injured last time. He may have not been 100% even then, but he was flying. The last game before the injury, that line was fantastic and if memory serves me correct, he was first star of that game.

        When healthy, you notice him out there. But unfortunately, we didn’t get to see much of that Prust this year…

        I agree, Prust without his “sand paper” is like Vanek without his scoring touch. Major part of his game and why MB signed him.

        I just hope something can be done over the summer (surgery?).

      • HabinBurlington says:

        There was one particular play where Prust had a chance for a one timer to a fairly open cage and yup, you could see he could hardly hold his stick to make the shot. Moen for Prust will be an upgrade. Sad to say, but true.

    • JUST ME says:

      It was obvious that he was not playing with all his assets and we must admire a guy that goes to war with injuries just for the team`s sake.
      This guy has a heart as big as the Bell Center but for him to be effective he needs to go in the traffic and bulldoze the opponents . If he is not 100 % then he is the kind of player that should be sat down and replace with a guy like Whitey who could definitely want to shake things up.

    • habsfan0 says:

      But didn’t MT just state that Prust was healthy?
      I feel so…misled.

  38. Rad says:

    Looks like this is the lineup we’ll be going with tonight:
    Desharnais, Pac, Vanek
    Pleks, Gallagher, Bournival
    Eller, Bourque, Gionta
    Briere, Moen, Weise

    And Douglas Murray in for Bouillon. He will probably crush at least 2 Bruins tonight, just to remind them he’s around. And he will be a big help on the penalty kill.

    Prust sitting out is proof positive that he is in fact injured, something most of us had deduced from the way he had been playing. The question is, why did Therrien wait this long to take him out?

    Habs will play their best game of the series tonight. I expect a big win, something like 5-2 or 6-3.

  39. habcertain says:

    I would have preferred Whitey over Moen, more speed to go with the toughness, and he played well with Bourny. I guess MT will live or die by sticking with the vets, but if this is our last hurrah for the season, I would feel like we have not made any significant improvements over last year. No progression of the kids, some may argue digression for many. Don’t get me wrong, I would love a Cup on the back of Price, but think we have stunted real development for what is looking like a bright future. I just don’t see this coach as the guy who leads that development.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I agree. Adding White also improves the teams face off performance as well. Ive been out most of the day so I apoligize but last I had heard White was in for Prust. Has that changed

  40. jrs10069 says:

    Montrealer / Habs fan living in Ottawa. Do I try to find some bar in town to watch or get off my ass and make the cruise to mtl to watch and bash with some high school buddies? Watched game 1 in mtl = win, watched game 2 in ottawa= ugh. Will have to teach them to win while at home, can’t make the drive every game, can i?


    • frontenac1 says:

      Go to Mtl amigo! And do a Victory Walkabout after the game.
      It is Righteous and Proper.

    • monmick says:

      You can try Real Sports in the Byward Market if you have never been. Atmostphere should be good for the game…

      90 George Street
      Ottawa, ON K1N 5W1

      If you want something quainter and to be among Habs fans, try Chez Lucien, also in the By Market. Admiring the old photos of Maurice Richard and others on the wall is worth the trip alone.

      137 Murray St, Ottawa

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

  41. C-Sword says:

    So which round 2 series are you guys enjoying the most so far? I think the Ducks VS Kings is the most entertaining one, not very high scoring, but two teams that hit hard and play great defensively, the match-up is quite even.

  42. Psycho29 says:

    Oops, posted in the wrong thread:

    TSN to expand to 5 channels next year

    TSN1 Maple Leafs 24/7
    TSN2 Raptors 24/7
    TSN3 Blue Jays 24/7
    TSN4 Foster Hewitt 24/7
    TSN5 Wendel Clark and Doug Gilmour just
    sitting around talking 24/7

  43. montreal ace says:

    I really would like to see the Habs hit Bergeron and Krug more, these guys have to be slowed down

  44. FormalWare says:

    Happy Birthday, Gally! Pot a couple, to celebrate!

    (I wonder, do players score more often on their birthday than on the average day, to a statistically significant extent? I wouldn’t be surprised!)

    WWSD (What Would SubbieDoo?)

  45. howiemorenz7 says:

    Let’s see if Crankypants gets exposed by incredible Bruins speed. I’m otherwise OK with everything right now, I’ve decided to bury my MT hatchet and just learn to trust the weasel.

    I still think we should go for Babcock and his McGill tie once the Habs get yanked (I know, contract status with Det and all that, hey Kenny, let’s make a deal!).

    The Habs are on the verge of putting together their best run since the 70s, if they keep PK, sign Vanek, Markov, and maybe add a forward whose name isn’t Briere. We need the best coach in hockey to guide it.

    Maroons Suck. #7 foreva.

  46. arcosenate says:

    I think this about sums up the general feeling today:

    Kent Brockman: Professor, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it’s time for our viewers to crack each other’s heads open and feast on the goo inside?

    Professor: Yes I would, Kent.

  47. habstrinifan says:

    I’ve got GREAT NEWS and bad NEWS people… which do you want first?

    OK since you insist… GREAT NEWS HABS WINNING TONIGHT … biblical certainty.

    bad NEWS… IT’S GONNA BE A 1-0 victory. Power play goal 5 mins into period ONE and then freakin ‘ride of a lifetime’ 55 minutes of agony.

    Can you hold up??? You’ve been warned!!!!

    EDIT: Defibrillator on hand..checked/Will updated..checked/Casket with HABS motif…checked/TV anywhere subscription for the hereafter..checked/

  48. Butterface says:

    Well…. I had hoped for White (great on PK, great hitter, can fight, fast skater, might take a bad penalty, young exuberance).

    but looks like Moen (good hitter, great on PK , veteran presence)

    I won’t complain too much, unless Moen blows.

    Murray in for Boullion was my call… hope it works out.

    MT I am glad you are reading my posts, but please follow my line up exactly.

    I am calling for Rask to be chased tonight…. bring on Ocho Cinqo.

    If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…..

    • Fransaskois says:

      I don’t think White is the right guy for this series. Habs have done a wonderful job of not playing the Bruins game. They’ve limited the damage of post-whistle scrums, they’ve kept the tone of the game at a pretty even keel, avoided injuries, and not let the Bruins intimidate them into playing stupid and taking penalties.

      You get one guy (White) who isn’t able to handle his emotions and the whole strategy falls apart. I have zero faith in White’s ability to keep it in check. I’m not sure I see him coming back next year.

      • Shackles says:

        Yup. I love the energy White brings but that can easily be offset by his lack of composure when emotions get high.

      • Butterface says:

        I do agree he is a wild card on taking a bad penalty.

        I think we play an angry Bruins team better then a even-keeled one.

        Whites speed and very good PK may bring a bit more of a dynamic we have got over the Bruins. And he can fight. Moen and Parros are on the decline.

        If we do not sign White, I think it could be hard to find a similar 1 million dollar guy who brings what he brings. He is Weise with a few loose screws.

        I like White.

        If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…..

        • skeet44 says:

          Great post…I just wish the habs would pick up my neighbour Zach Sill, same type of player and currently playing for the wilkes-barrie pens…check him out!!!

    • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

      TSN 690 saying White is in with Moen and Weise.

      I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  49. habcertain says:

    Laviolette in as coach for NAS.

  50. arcosenate says:

    As my wife’s 92 year old Hungarian grandmother says, “I am starting to get all nerveuse and sveaty.”

  51. Prop says:

    The key for the Habs to winning is for them to stick with what was winning them games, and stop going into two goal lead protection mode in the third period.


  52. twilighthours says:

    Moen in for Prust? Ugh. Not like Prust was playing that well, but Moen doesn’t offer much anymore. Luckily, Bournival has shown plenty of ability to slide up onto Plex’ wing.

    Not sure I like Murray for Cube, either. But neither of those two guys were getting more than 12 minutes tonight. Time to cut the horses loose.

    This might actually be a legitimate measuring-stick game. It’s a big one!

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Hey Twi.

      I’m a BAD teacher! In the interests of broadening cultural horizons, I wrote “Montreal-Boston” in a corner of the board, with “Best of 7. Tied 1-1. Game 3 tonight.”

      Spent the rest of the day telling guys NOT to watch it! (“Gimme a stream, sir!”, “No, no. It’s far too late! It’s a school night! Don’t you remember how incoherent I was last Friday after double OT?” “No worse than usual, sir!”)

      • Chris says:

        Hehe…I get my evaluations back tomorrow. It is always a good time to see some of the comments that students leave. Some of it is valid, but I honestly wonder if some of them even knew what class they were sitting in. 🙂

      • twilighthours says:

        You sound like a great teacher to me, dog.

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          I was going to say, Try asking their mothers when they catch their kids watching hockey at 2am on their laptops (“Teacher told me to!”),

          But then, presumably it’s no different in Canada than here, that parents have given up monitoring what kids do and for how long on their laptops/X-Boxes/PSs in their bedrooms. It’s why they arrive illiterate into high-school. Sigh.

          • Chris says:

            Worse, many are departing illiterate from high school. It is truly sad how little reading people do in today’s tech-based world. They are missing out.

          • twilighthours says:

            You should see the looks on parents’ faces when I suggest that maybe they take the computer out of the kids’ rooms, or have the kids turn their phones off at 10pm.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            As in, “Who is this radical nutjob?”

            Have seen that face.

          • twilighthours says:

            Or “you think I can tell my kids THAT? They’d kill me.”

  53. frontenac1 says:

    Crankshaft and Moener in. I like! What about Whitey?

  54. Luke says:

    Fewer NHL broadcasts, more TSN channels.

    I cannot begin to comprehend the amount of inane filler material they’ll need.
    They can have insiders discuss fan forum comments for each NHL franchise.

    • shiram says:

      Curling, darts and poker will take center stage!
      Oh and if we are lucky, we might just get a mini putt tourney!

    • Chris says:

      Depends…there would be a market if they start trying to pick up more of the “Olympic” sports, and there is a massive, relatively untapped market for sports like soccer, cricket, and rugby.

      If I were TSN, I would also keep an eye on the Champion’s League that is kicking off next season in Europe. If the KHL ultimately becomes involved, that could become an interesting tournament, as it already features the top teams from the Swedish, Finnish, Swiss, and German leagues. If the KHL signs on board, that is really going to allow the bigger clubs in Europe to grow quite quickly.

      • Luke says:

        I had really hoped they would pick up ome CHL but Rogers re-upped. Mind you the amount of staff, travel and equipment they would need to add to cover the CHL in a deeper fashion then the ‘game of the week’ would probably be prohibitive.

        I’m down with picking up some more ‘world’ sports. Buying feeds or licenses from Fox SportsWorld or whatever…

        • Chris says:

          There are so many interesting sports that get relatively paltry coverage in Canada:

          Professional cycling – good luck finding coverage of much other than than the Tour de France (although the Giro d’Italia did get some coverage with Hesjerdal’s victory)

          Nordic skiing – I love this stuff, particularly the biathlon. Those are so fun to watch, yet you simply can’t get it in North America.

          Alpine skiing – I grew up watching the alpine skiing races on CBC sports weekend…great content for weekend afternoons.

          CIS sports – It would be absolutely great if one of the national networks started showing some of the Canadian university sports each week. There are some elite athletes competing, and they get absolutely no coverage whatsoever unless it is an Olympic year.

          Sadly, it probably will just be a lot more golf, sports “talk” shows and highlight packages, the exact tripe that is already overwhelmingly available.

          • twilighthours says:

            Love nordic skiing! Got into it the past couple years. Hard? I guess so! What a workout!

          • Jocko says:


            Totally with you on skiing and CIS. I loved watching the Crazy Canucks in the day. Real shame our CIS athletes get such poor exposure as well. I only hope it changes one day.

            Funny story to share about Nordic. I am from a small town and skied (spelling?) to school. I tried to race the bus home, had a head start, of course. I did so, but almost puked when I got home. Those Nordic athletes should be lauded for their abilities!

            I don’t want to see Maurice tonight, I want to see The Rocket!

    • Fransaskois says:

      The future of NHL broadcasting is grim. Have you tried watching a full Sportsnet segment? It’s an absolute gong show (and not as high quality as the Gong Show).

    • howiemorenz7 says:

      Rogers has a zillion channels, can’t see why Bell can’t. OH, I mean Sportsnet and TSN of course.

      Maroons Suck. #7 foreva.

  55. Dunboyne Mike says:

    For anyone in on last night’s discussion of anvils and Wil E Coyote being accordionised (and btw, thanks HabFab for the Blarney Stone/Skinbracer moment: I needed that!).

    I used to think G Campbell was ok, that he was a high-energy player, a good irritant, and that the very worst thing about him was something not one of us has any choice in: his father.

    But the slash at our goalie’s hand — his HAND! — during the intermission (it was) last game means that he now joins the list of those who need anvils (some might require zambonis, but let’s squash ’em). Hopefully Thornton takes himself out again.

  56. Iceberg84 says:

    I would just like to say that I’ve discovered a newfound respect for the team at the Gazette and Canadian sportswriters in general. After reading a few articles over at the Boston Globe and Herald, I’m pretty shocked and annoyed. More than a few of their ‘journalists’ sound a lot more like disgruntled fans just trying to stoke the fires and get Bruins fans riled up against the Canadiens instead of, you know, writing smart, thoughtful pieces about hockey and what makes it such a great sport. All these writers seem to focus on is “do the habs get special treatment from the refs?” (to which we can firmly say NO thanks to articles like this:

    I’m just surprised that (almost) no one in Boston feels like writing intelligent discourse about hockey since they have such a good team and so much history. Instead, all I seem to find are articles about how much they hate the Canadiens. There’s just such a huge difference in style and content between what the HIO team puts out and what they put out. One feels more like JOURNALISM and the other feels like fan hate mail that somehow has a publisher.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Hey Iceberg. Good post, and I agree about the high standard of the Gazette team.

      In fairness, I believe some of the “journalists” on are, deliberately and in reality, little more than fans who give writing a go. In the Comments sections I’ve read, even Bruins fans scorn them!

      (Did you see the CBC blunder I posted early on the previous thread: “Can Montreal even up the series tonight?”)

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      If one were an American journalist one would aspire to write for the NY Times, perhaps the Washington Post in the old days, the pre-Rupert Murdoch Wall Street Journal.

      Then as a second choice, you might wish to write for the LA and Chicago papers, or perhaps the NY Daily News or Post.

      If you weren’t good enough for that there are decent newspapers in Detroit, Atlanta, Dallas.

      But if you lacked both talent and ambition, you might end up at a rag like the Boston Globe. Like happened to Kevin Paul Dupont for example.

      It’s to journalism what late night infomercials are to commerce. The bottom. The abandoned alleyway where the trash accumulates.

      Moving. Forward.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Beautiful writing about crap writing!
        EruditsyDoodler strikes again!

      • twilighthours says:

        KPD is actually one of the worst. Literally one of the worst.

        But the bigger problem with Boston media, as I see it, is that they must drive anger/rage/hatred to keep themselves relevant and read – keep the Bruins at the top of the heap in a competitive sports market (Celtics,Pats,Sox). I feel like they are actually given carte blanche to editorialize on topics when simple reporting would be better and smarter. Hence you’ve got a bunch of sports columnists instead of one or two columnists and a bunch of reporters.

        Not sure if that made sense or not.

        In any case, just stay clear of Boston newspapers and you’ll keep your rage down.

        Unless we win this series. Then troll them like crazy.

    • twilighthours says:

      I clicked the link, read the article, and then had the misfortune of reading the comments.


  57. B says:

    Montreal leads all playoff teams with 3.83 goals per game so far.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  58. Donkey Hoat says:

    Should tonight’s game not go in our favour, is there somewhere the trolls can go and feed?
    I’m thinking the CBC Sports website, where they’ll find other like-minded “Habs fans”.

    Go Habs Go.

  59. murfdog says:

    Lets go boys!!!!!! GO HABS GO. Lets welcome these boys home!!!!

  60. Dunboyne Mike says:

    The “best team in the league” has been playing its A-Game so far this series.

    However, they could only split at home versus a team playing well shy of its potential. In fact, the “best team in the league” nearly lost both home games.

    They go into the other team’s barn with the same A-Game. The other team, on the other hand, as well as last change and a rabid crowd, has much potential to fulfil, the possibility of a serious upgrade.

    Good situation.

  61. Chris says:

    On the last thread, there was some talk of Varlamov returning to “normal”. He just turned 26 years old and he’s only been the main starter for 2-3 years, so I’m not entirely sure how people know what normal is for him.

    But just for comparison’s sake, here’s how Quick, Price, Rask and Varlamov compare at the same age:

    Age 22:
    Varlamov: 11-9-5, 2 SO, 2.23 GAA, 0.924 SV%
    Price: 13-20-5, 0 SO, 2.72 GAA, 0.912 SV%
    Quick: 21-18-2, 4 SO, 2.48 GAA, 0.914 SV%
    Rask: 22-12-5, 5 SO, 1.97 GAA, 0.931 SV%

    Age 23:
    Varlamov: 26-24-3, 4 SO, 2.59 GAA, 0.913 SV%
    Price: 38-28-6, 8 SO, 2.35 GAA, 0.923 SV%
    Quick: 39-24-7, 4 SO, 2.54 GAA, 0.907 SV%
    Rask: 11-14-2, 2 SO, 2.67 GAA, 0.918 SV%

    Age 24:
    Varlamov: 11-21-3, 3 SO, 3.02 GAA, 0.902 SV%
    Price: 26-28-11, 4 SO, 2.43 GAA, 0.916 SV%
    Quick: 35-22-3, 6 SO, 2.24 GAA, 0.918 SV%
    Rask: 11-8-3, 3 SO, 2.05 GAA, 0.929 SV%

    Age 25:
    Varlamov: 41-14-6, 2 SO, 2.41 GAA, 0.927 SV%
    Price: 21-13-4, 3 SO, 2.59 GAA, 0.905 SV%
    Quick: 35-21-13, 10 SO, 1.95 GAA, 0.929 SV%
    Rask: 19-10-5, 5 SO, 2.00 GAA, 0.929 SV%

    Age 26:
    Varlamov: ???
    Price: 34-20-5, 6 SO, 2.32 GAA, 0.927 SV%
    Quick: 18-13-4, 1 SO, 2.45 GAA, 0.902 SV%
    Rask: 36-15-6, 7 SO, 2.04 GAA, 0.930 SV%

    Age 27:
    Varlamov: ???
    Price: ???
    Quick: 27-17-4, 6 SO, 2.07 GAA, 0.915 SV%
    Rask: ???

    I don’t think anybody can really say with any conviction whether Varlamov has been over-performing. In his first two seasons with the Avalanche, his numbers were being crushed by the fact that the Avalanche were simply an abysmal team, one of the worst in the NHL. This is why the managed to land Nathan MacKinnon 1st overall and Gabriel Landeskog 2nd overall two years before that.

    Rask and Quick have enjoyed the most consistent numbers, but they have also benefit from playing with the most consistently good defensive teams in Boston and Los Angeles, respectively. Price, whose Montreal Canadiens have been wildly inconsistent, sees numbers that aren’t so different from those of Varlamov.

    Given the rapid improvement of the Avalanche and the presence of Patrick Roy as a mentor, I think it is very premature to assert that Varlamov might be a flash in the pan. He showed early promise behind the porous Washington Capitals, and he’s putting it all together at an age where goaltenders often put it together.

  62. ffenliv says:

    6 more hours at work. Blargh!

    At least, living in Central Time, the pre-game is on almost as soon as I get home.

    Can’t. Take. Much. More.

  63. secretdragonfly says:

    Happy birthday, Gally! Best way to celebrate is to pot the winning goal, just sayin’ 🙂

  64. Say Ash says:

    I can’t believe I’m so excited that Bourque is in tonight. It’s like friggin bizarro world.

  65. Forum Dog says:

    Hopefully Bourque has enough energy to get up-close-and-personal with his Boston counterparts. Friends close, but enemies closer when it comes to communicable diseases.

    Glad to see it is Prust and not Bournival sitting. I think that, of Bournival/Prust/Moen, it is the latter two whose skills are redundant. Be interesting to see what line combos come out of this….

  66. zephyr says:

    I think prust is hurt. he hasn’t been himself.
    hope galchenyuk gets back soon.
    we can take boston if we play a speed/forechecking game & pressure their dmen. we should stop trying to get the puck out of our end by going up the boards. it almost never works – esp with our small fwds against the boards. I don’t know why we have to be so predictable. this is where the coach is supposed to make a difference.

  67. shiram says:

    Glad to see Bourque is good to go.
    Sucks about Prust, but his body must just be too broken up right now to be as effective as he needs to be.
    That said, I’m not sold on Moen being all that great, we’ll have to see.
    And now for my Timo moment, why the f are Max and Thom not at practice??

    Happy to hear Ginette Reno will be singing again also.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Moen will be an upgrade on the way Prust has been playing. Moen was pretty physical in his first game back and he is defensively responsible. Prust honestly has been one of if the not the worse player on our roster this playoff

  68. HabinBurlington says:

    Game Day, Habs need a win tonight, here’s hoping they get it!

    Go Habs Go!

  69. Walmyr says:

    Go Habs Go!!!

    That’s how you Win games!
    There Endth the Lesson

    Shane Oliver
    A Little fun during the Intermission
    Brandon Predators

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