Bourque to wear number 27

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The knock on René Bourque, per Bob McKenzie and many others, is inconsistency.
The newest Canadien is said to be a talented and effective player … when he feels like playing.
Bourque will wear the number last worn by Alex Kovalev.
Hmmmm …

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• Bourque arrives in Montreal late this afternoon

• New line at practice: Tomas Plekanec between Michael Blunden and Scott Gomez

• Gomez is leading stretches at centre ice. At morning skate in Boston, it was Cammalleri

662 Comments

  1. HabinBurlington says:

    This notion of Montreal being classless because Cammy got pulled from a game I think is BS.

    PG / Feaster had been working on this deal and it was essentially a done deal a week ago but Bourque had the suspension. PG said they didn’t want to make trade if guy still had 4 games to serve. Cammy pops off to media, PG calls Feaster and says EFF it, i will take Bourque now lets go. Feaster says I will call you back to confirm, he calls in middle of game. PG did not want to lose this trade and have Cammy get hurt in 3rd period.

    If this is classless somehow I don’t get it. It is unfortunate, but that is why all people involved make big bucks, they can take it. Seems it is the fans being the whiners making this into some classless move.

    • The Cat says:

      Its not just cause of this Cammalleri, but just another example of it.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      Hey, Burl’, ya still got that Cammy T-shirt? Hope you’re not going to use it for yard work or oil rag. I’m thinkin’ it could be worth something someday. Just between you and me, I’m workin’ on a plan to start up hall of ex-Hab players, with their Canadien sweaters and memorabilita. I betcha there’s a lot of Hab fans out there would pay good money to wander through the hall and reminisce about all the great ones who got shipped out. Not the Roys and Harveys, who already wore the mantle of greatness, but the pseudo-stars who briefly capture the imagination of the fans and fuel flights of fancy that another Cup is headed to Montreal. The Hall of We Were That Close to Glory Again. I’d even have a wing for all the team’s first picks that didn’t pan out. Two floors.

  2. Stev.R says:

    Colton Gillies was put on waivers today. This is in my opinion the ultimate fixer upper. Could be a jewel of a bottom 6 player if we work on him. Oh times like these I wish I could send PG a quick text to make sure he sees this

  3. Mike Bone says:

    The whole “did PG shop Cammy around enough” debate comes down to this: Yes, GMs knew he might be available and had only a limited no trade. But it’s the kind of thing where he probably wasn’t on most GMs most wanted list. It’s, if PG called them, they might have said oh yeah, that guy. Maybe I do want him. But Cammy’s not the kind of guy they would have really desired without a reminder.

  4. 123456 says:

    What snow storm?

    Western NY is getting is first “storm” of the season and I’m posting on here…. WTF – I gotta get home and have some fun.

    I love the snow – love driving in it (just not tards who do not know how to drive in it).

    OK gents you can all get back to your b!tching about and/or defending PG.

  5. Stev.R says:

    After processing some information I’ve tried to make sense of why he was traded mid game.
    1) It was a process that started the night before and there was a lot that needed to be done, or checked, to make sure the deal was valid. Mostly paperwork stuff. Stuff every team does ahead of time when the deadline is coming up, but not so much when its mid season.
    2) They wanted the Flames game to start before they finalized the deal so it would burn one more game off of Bourque’s suspension.
    3) They were on the road and didn’t want to play short one guy so they let Cammy play. Still wanted to win the game.
    4) Pulled Cammy once they knew the deal would happen for sure, and didn’t want to risk injury.

    I think that is the thought process that was going through their minds last night. Some people call it classless, some call it business. Cammy didn’t mind.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      “2) They wanted the Flames game to start before they finalized the deal so it would burn one more game off of Bourque’s suspension.”

      But if he had been traded earlier then the Montreal game against Boston would have counted.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  6. PeterStone says:

    Folks, lets not fool ourselves, this trade is a big big gamble for Calgary. If, for arguments sake, Cammi DOESNT work out there, they have another 2 seasons at 6M$ per. They are already going to have cap issues when some of their injured come back. if this trade is a flop, that 2nd next season may be the first pick of the 2nd round.

  7. “It turns out that contrary to the reassurances ego-salving gals have offered credulous guys since the dawn of upright man, size does matter.” ~ Mike Boone
    priceless…

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  8. dtoight says:

    I’d say the 7 teams were Columbus, Nashville, Winnipeg, Edmonton, New York Islanders, Carolina and Minnesota.
    Dallas would bet next guess.

  9. GenerationYHabs says:

    Does anybody else feel that it’s a little disconcerting that I have yet to hear a single Flames fan talk bad about this trade? As far as I can tell they are all justt to happy to be parting with Bourque.

    • Timo says:

      And we are happy to be parting with Cammalleri. Call it even.

      • 123456 says:

        i agree call it even – the flames get a player who scores less, a lower draft pick and the rights to a guy in russia.

        but but cammy scored all these goals a couple years ago.

        it wasnt that long ago the AK27 scored a bunch of goals too (well ok it was longer than 2.5 years ago)…. but anyone want him?

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      It’s a bit of a gamble for sure for Montreal. The Flames wanted Bourque gone for a while.
      But if he isn’t playing well and scores 27 goals a year, I guess we’ll just have to live with it ;-).

      • GenerationYHabs says:

        This is a fanbase that for the majority of the last couple of years have called for Ak’s head everytime he “doesn’t show up” for a game. It is apprently the very samer reason why the flames wanted Bourque gone so badly.

        They’re both 6″2, 20+ goal scorers that have the reputation of disappearing. These guys could have basicly been seperated at birth and I just don’t see this fitting too well with fans and the media in the long run.

    • avatar_58 says:

      Because he’s not exactly a sniper, inconsistent and he takes a lot of bonehead penalties. He’s the AK46 of Calgary. He could find his spark here or get buried under the critics.

    • piper says:

      They figure that means Iggy is staying put now so thats why they like it. I could be wrong but I doubt Cammy will help them much. Although I’d still like to see Gauthier gone, he made a good deal here and a step in the right direction.

    • Cardiac says:

      Last time he played for Calgary, he scored 39 goals. Then again, he was playing for a new contract that year. Most fans probably think he will duplicate those numbers again. WE, however, know better.

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      - Jerry Maguire

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Can’t say I know many if any Flames fans, I do have quite a few hockey fan friends in general who seem to think this is a saw off.

  10. Bripro says:

    I was trying to figure out how come I couldn’t access the site last night, until I just read that it crashed.
    No wonder..between the start of the game and now, I see there are over 2,000 posts.
    I’ll have to scroll down to read what interesting comments my HIO comrades have to say about this trade.
    Personally, I like it.
    It clears $2.7MM in cap space and we get some size.
    Let’s hope he doesn’t turn out to be another Pouliot.

  11. habs001 says:

    We are now for the third year in a row in the bottom 10 in scoring…i know we have had posters posting stats the last 2 years that they claimed indicated it has just been bad luck that we are not scoring more and it will change…i somehow think that this 3 years of bad luck will change when the lineup changes…

    • English is not a Crime says:

      Count the games missed by the highest paid players on the team in the past 2 yrs. Namely the guys that take regular shifts on the PP and the top 2 lines such as Gomez, Markov, Gionta, Cammy etc.

  12. HabFanSince72 says:

    This is an interesting article on the topic of media in sports. It refers to football but it is germane. I like this quote:

    “Players have so internalized the stovepiped moralizing and ex post facto scapegoating of the press that they now inflict this stuff on each other.”

    http://tinyurl.com/7fdswy4

    It’s true of the fans too. We now think like the media pundits. Martin Amis had a bit in London Field where the hero Keith Talent is talking about a football game he saw and sounding just like a sports journalist. He realizes that he is not just using clichés – the cliché is what he experiences.

    You hear ‘cancer in the room’ and you think ‘yeah he’s a cancer in the room’. We’ve all belonged to groups at work and in school. Have we ever worked with a ‘cancer’? Probably not. How come every team that is below .500 has ‘cancer’?

    You hear that ‘it’s classless to trade the guy between periods’ and you think ‘ yeah it is’. Really? It’s classless? Even the word is bogus.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • Bripro says:

      A few years back, I hired a visible minority who impressed me at the time.
      She turned out to be a serious cancer, who knew the system.
      I tried to let her go twice.
      She used the racist card in threatening to take me to the human rights commission.
      I had to keep her an extra 3 months while I logged her errors so that I would have grounds if the time came to defend myself.
      Cancers are everywhere. And some of them have no cure.

      • 123456 says:

        ha that’s similar to what PG did – he tried to move cammy but had to track his scoring to convince molson of his erros – finally after 9 goals in half a season the proof was there – cammy was overpaid

    • avatar_58 says:

      You are reaching. I consider it classless because it is NOT done. Name me the last player the habs did this to. What kind of GM takes months to make a trade but boils down to “pull him or he might be injured!” in a single period? Why did he play the game at all? Why wasn’t he traded the day before? The day after?

      I’m sorry but publically sending a guy to his hotel room during a game? It’s like he was going for the maximum “shape up or get out” message. I didn’t need any media types to judge for me, I was seeing this happen live and the reactions on twitter from fans.

      I can’t even really judge the trade because I’m still baffled at how it occured. Gauthier is treating this franchise like a circus

      • 123456 says:

        while i agree it was odd to trade him during a game – i have to think something made that happen…. did cammy pop off not knowing he was already traded so PG just told him to go away (i.e. he wa salready playing his last gome)…. or maybe calgary finally upped the ante during hte game but required cammy to stop playing… idk…. i dont care – whats done is done

        GO HABS GO

      • ZepFan2 says:

        As far as taking months to make the trade. Feaster stated that the reason the talks stalled was because of the suspension to Borque.

        I suppose that after the Cammy interview his fate was sealed.

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        • avatar_58 says:

          It’s almost like waving a flag in front of the rest of the players, showing them PG means business.

          Except he doesn’t or he’d have done this months ago, along with Gomez, Spacek, firing Martin, etc.

          PG is a soft GM. He waits too long and has no answers. Since he took over the team has just gotten worse. It’s a fact. He didn’t build the ECF team.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          How could I forget, “classy” people curtsy to the queen, refer to it as a lavatory never a toilet, and only trade players before or after the game.


          Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • Bobcat Bob says:

        Bobcat Bob
        You could not be more wrong in your analysis of this situation — Cammelleri just flat out quit on the team — he was totally in it for himself — He was the one who let every member of the Canadiens organization down — he deserves the criticism NOT the Canadiens franchise

      • Bripro says:

        I don’t see why PG would lie about the fact that he received confirmation from Calgary’s Jay Feaster during the game, hence the reason he was pulled.
        They didn’t want their player to get injured.
        And the fact that they waited until Bourque’s suspension was almost over makes sense.
        I don’t think it was intended to be classless, but you can always find a member of the fan base or media who thinks so.
        We’re such pessimists!

    • Bill says:

      It’s the basic human tendency to think metaphorically. We get sucked in by it all the time. It’s what Cammalleri was doing when he talked about the “losing mentality”.

      As Yogi Berra said, 99% of sports is mental. The other half is physical.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  13. habsolutely416 says:

    inconsistant eh? sounds like a guy who used to don the CH and wore number 13.

    ill be in the slot ;)

  14. Sean Bonjovi says:

    “Every NHL GM with internet access knew cammi was available and didn’t have a full no trade clause ”
    - Sean Bonjovi

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      was testing new sig, hit wrong button. apology

      “Max Pacioretty could be our Phil Kessel”
      - Sean Bonjovi

    • ZepFan2 says:

      Yup, he had a whole 7 teams he would go to out of 28.

      Your point?

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      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        don’t believe any GM would have offered more if PG had only called him

        “Max Pacioretty could be our Phil Kessel”
        - Sean Bonjovi

        • ZepFan2 says:

          PG had 7 teams he could call. Who knows how many of those were in our division.

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          • Sean Bonjovi says:

            7 he could NOT call. “NOT” call! repeat that so I know you understand, OK

            “Max Pacioretty could be our Phil Kessel”
            - Sean Bonjovi

          • ZepFan2 says:

            Ahh, my bad. I thought it was the other way around.

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      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        None of 29 GMs thought he had a full NCT. 0! They ALL knew he was available. Every single one of them!

        “Max Pacioretty could be our Phil Kessel”
        - Sean Bonjovi

        • ZepFan2 says:

          “They ALL knew he was available.”

          If they knew he was available as you insist, why didn’t any of them get in touch with PG?

          Again, Cammy had 7 teams he would agree to go to. I’m sure the Flames were one of them.

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          • Sean Bonjovi says:

            After Wednesday Cammalleri interview EVERY team knew that player was for sale., based solely on the interview. Necessarily, and without exception.

            “Max Pacioretty could be our Phil Kessel”
            - Sean Bonjovi

          • ZepFan2 says:

            “EVERY team knew that player was for sale., based solely on the interview.”

            So why didn’t any of those GM’s call and inquire about Cammy?

            I guess it’s true that this deal was already in the works like both GM’s stated.

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          • 123456 says:

            a sabres fan told me this AM he knew cammy was on the block…. just like it’s well known the sabres are shopping roy… people in the biz know this stuff. . . some fans care not to believe.. i can guarantee you PG has had offers for others on the habs as well the season

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        7 he would NOT go to.

        “Max Pacioretty could be our Phil Kessel”
        - Sean Bonjovi

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        7 teams he could not be traded to leaving 22. And I’m guessing among the 7 are a lot of bottom teams who wouldn’t trade for him anyway.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  15. bellcentre hotdog says:

    Bourque is signed until 2015-16.
    His cap hit is $3.3 million each year.

  16. Top Corner says:

    The media is messing with this team on purpose. That we now know…i mean c’monnnnn HA HA HA “dead empire” really??

    Cammy was and is a great hockey player. He’s a sniper , and thats it ! Every time he got hit I would wonder if he was going to be out 2-3 games or 2-3 weeks. I wont worry that way with Bourque. Loved his play in the ECF run of 2010 , and i wont forget it. Moving on….he is expendable.

    Funny to me how some of these same journalists that call out the HABS for bringing in small players , and constantly calling out this team for being to small , are mocking this trade.
    I’am not a fan of Gauthier , sketches me out , his timing is just awfull. But this wasnt his decision, Cammy made sure this happened!! However still…PG too has to go , and a new face must step up , and this empire will once again rule the dark planet……FFS

  17. dtoight says:

    I’d trade pleks, Kaberle, Gill, Campolli and Moen and load up on draft picks and prospects. Then in the offseason buy out Gomez and sign Shea Weber. Hopefully win the draft and get Nail Yakupov.

    2012-2013 lineup

    Ak46-Eller-Bourque
    MaxPac-DD-Cole
    Gionta-Leblanc-Yakupov
    Shultz- white- ????

    Weber-Subban
    Markov-Gorges
    Emelin- Diaz

    That leaves yannick Webber, Tinordi and Beaulieu in Hamilton as well as Christo, Gallagher and Bournival

  18. WindsorHab-10 says:

    I love Boone’s question: What’s next, Scott Gomez bought out in the middle of a shift?
    Priceless.

  19. cunningdave says:

    With Camm gone, and Gionta out, we’re starting to not be a small team anymore.

    MaxPac
    Cole
    Eller
    Moen
    Bourque
    Blunden
    AK

    These guys aren’t small. A few of them can actually hit. We just gained 5″ and a 2nd round pick with that trade, and 2M off the cap.

    Just sayin’.

  20. Don Carnage says:

    Say bye bye to Mr Camma me me me and his 1 goal per 3 games at 6 million a year while I stand and wait for someone to spoon feed me a goal, while I can’t play without the puck, won’t hit , won’t go into the tough area’s.

  21. habs001 says:

    ak46 has shown some great games but basically he has shown to be a 40 point a year type player…he has not been able to elevate his production in the nhl..he is 26..if he is going to be anything more than what we have seen it would have to be now…if there is no salary cap and you are one of the top nhl teams than plecks is a third liner on that team and eller right now a 4th liner……your 4th line has to better than what we have…..

  22. PeterStone says:

    next move should be, Hal Gill and Travis Moen to Pittsburgh for Simon Despres and draft pick.

  23. jules says:

    Maybe you should shut the F up!

  24. HabFanSince72 says:

    Boone: “For most players, semantics is the guy who used to protect Wayne Gretzky.”

    Ha ha.

  25. jules says:

    First of all. My point was missed for the 10th time. AK is not that great. That’s that. I am European. I prefer north American players I think they may not be as “skilled” in some cases but overall I think majority have better success in ye NHL.

  26. get_real says:

    HOT OFF THE PRESS,,,,

    PG is trading YOUPPI … # 23 PUPPETS of the Seasame Street League.

    NOT THAT’s A GAME CHANGER

  27. davecessna says:

    lmfao Cammalleri picks #93. Coincidence?

    Epic, epic, last f-you to the Montreal Canadiens. Nobody other than Darche will ever want to play here again.

  28. HNS says:

    I’d like to see the server HIO uses for this site traded. This thing went down like New Orleans Whore last nite. WTF???

  29. jules says:

    Take it easy about the ignorant and racist comments. Why doesn’t everyone stop getting there guard up and realize my point. AK does not play well in the playoffs. PERIOD. Thats why I do not believe he is the most “talented” player on this team. And that’s why I think it’s time he makes his departure as well! Relaxxxxxxxxx

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      There’s a difference between singling out an individual for his poor performance and attributing that player’s poor performance to his nationality, and then using it as a blanket stereotype for an entire continent.

  30. jules says:

    I agree MTL is a great city. But I don’t think they are all as in love as they say. I have been to many Habs games and see the team leave the garage and blow off kids waiting for signatures. Some stop and sign. But I don’t know if they are that nuts about the fans in particular.

    • Mad Habber says:

      Honestly can you blame them? Fans and media a like, seems to enjoy tearing players down every chance they get. Then sulk when they go on and have success elsewhere, “stupid gm never should have traded blah, blah, blah”. I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see Cammalleri go on and have a long and successful career in Calgary.

      Have you ever wondered why players almost always seem to have more success elsewhere? Either before they come here or after they leave.

  31. jules says:

    I would like to think PG has been shopping Gomez for a while

  32. jules says:

    Maybe yakupov will be a Malkin or jagr. Who plays well all season and in playoffs. Or maybe he will turn into a fairy on the playoffs. I hope we get Yakupov. I would roll the dice on that kid. He is playing in north America. I think he will adjust well to the NHL because of that reason.

  33. krob1000 says:

    The Gomez return is questionalbe too….would he have returned had the team been successful? If I am PG RC isunder strict orders to get Gomez some serious opportunity….he has a few eeks to prove he can still play and be shopped. This is the first realistic opportunity to do that since he signed here…he could help a playoff battling team down the stretch and save cap dollars for 2 years. For the right team he could work out actually…I can see somewhere like Colorado actually working out.

  34. Mad Habber says:

    I was going over a Flames site to see what their fans thought of the player they were giving up, and a lot of the comments sound very similar to what people are saying about Cammellari.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      That’s definitely the mood here in Calgary, they’re very excited. Though I like the trade, I think Cammy is being portrayed solely on this season (and really, who has played well for the Habs this year?). I don’t think anyone was questioning his committment over the two seasons before this. Output perhaps…which is why I don’t mind the trade. But committment no. To my ears, that’s been a recent revalation.

      With Bourque, it’s been a constant. He’s a frustrating player to fans here. Picture AK46 when he is on one of his tears. That’s the type of player he was in Calgary. With a nastier edge though.

      That said, new team…who knows? Here’s hoping!

  35. jules says:

    I am European. Its the truth. Euros are more inconsistent then most north American players

  36. Timo says:

    Max Pac on RDS doesn’t sound at all upset or surprised Cammalleri is gone. Now, there is a player who also needs to pick it up.

  37. get_real says:

    Now you understand while skilled players do not want to come to Montreal.. not the taxes, languages etc.. they actually all love the town and fans.. just look at the love Halak got this week.

    Just a few years ago BG & PG sold us the value of the Gomez,Cam & Gionta.. now they changed their minds and we need SIZE. At least trade & neg. with class.

    As long as Price & PK keep selling T-Shirts by the truck load .. nothing will happen. This was a BG project which needs to STOP if we are going to get any progress. YES YES YES TRADE Price & PK for real players that BELIEVE in a TEAM and that can put up some numbers. YES we had that goalie but ….

    A player swap will not make a difference.

    On another note, how is the HABS financial performance … OUTSTANDING so why change anything. Really sad.

    • mb says:

      You think they all love the town and the fans? I disagree. I don’t think every player likes the pressure and the constant hockey madness here.

      • get_real says:

        I really think skilled players like to play to a full house every night and to fan that understand hockey. The problem is not always the players it is the system & adm. Looks at what happenes when they get traded.

        Would you play for a team which will reduce your scoring productivty by 20-40% ,, what your market value then.

        Name me 1 player in the past 20 which actually inceased their productivity playing for the HABS?

  38. mb says:

    I wrote a post two days ago after Cammy’s comments. I wrote that (if/) when Cammy gets traded, he would be playing great with his new team.

    I still believe that. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts soring on a good pace again. However, I also stated that I won’t be too mad or disappointed if he does, because I’m certain that as soon as next season, he’s gonna go back to his old ways. He’s gonna start to get too self-confident and he will underperform once again. When his new team isn’t new anymore and he won’t be the team’s “hero”, it’s all gonna start again.

    I think it’s sad, because when he does play at his best, he’s a great player. But when the effort is not there, he harms a team more than anything else.

    So, as much as I like the guy, I think that trade wasn’t a mistake. It was to be expected, I believe.

  39. jules says:

    It’s the truth. AK. Sergi Kovi are all the same. Players like Semin havlat hossa. They are all the same. They play well one year and do nothing the next year. Jags, and malkins are rare. That’s all I am saying

  40. Strummer says:

    Here’s Boone’s segment on The Fan 590 with Bob McCowan yesterday afternoon:

    http://pmd.fan590.com/podcasts/pts/PTS-2012-01-12-4-pm.mp3

    Be patient it takes a couple of minutes before Mike’s on-air
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    -as posted in amusement parks across North America

  41. jules says:

    Ya 3 Europeans that will play well before there rookie contract is over.

  42. bleedhabs81 says:

    Wow, there is a lot of people on here I have never seen before. Looks like PG ripped the walls off and all the cockroaches are just flying out of the wood work.

    p.s. I haven’t read all the posts, so in no way is my calling you cockroaches a comment on your posts. I just liked the image.

    • G-Man says:

      You like the image of cockroaches? Ewwwwww. ;)

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      • bleedhabs81 says:

        No problem with them, as long as they are not in my house.

        They get quite the bad rap. I mean, they don’t really do anything to people, yet we hate them. We hate the very sight of them.

        remarkable little insects though.

  43. krob1000 says:

    So how much did Cammi’s take home pay for 2012 increase in Alberta vs Quebec? I think it is roughly 10 percent or nearly 700k this year based on his salary of 7000000

    • LA Loyalist says:

      plus there is no consumption tax (provincial sales tax) in Alberta.
      plus the new highway on top of the city makes it easy to get to the mountains
      plus Big Rock ™ beers kick Molson’s ass
      plus Alberta Beef is great
      the roads are nice, far fewer pot holes than the Decarie..

      Can I get traded to Calgary?

      • aemarchand11 says:

        it was 13 degrees in calgary on monday too!

        • bleedhabs81 says:

          minus 20 next week, supposedly. That is why I am skiing this weekend… get out before it gets too cold to ride 1000m up a mountain face in an exposed chairlift. brrrrrr

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        Stoney Trail (the new highway) really only helps out those that live close to it in the North (like me). Otherwise, you might as well just go west on 16th and put up with the lights… it will take the same amount of time but save you 25 km or so.

        I think the hockey players live on the west side of the City anyway (posh houses with mountain view), so Stoney won’t help Cammy out.

        Also, yes the roads are nice but in the winter they use gravel. As a result, everyone has cracked windshields (windshields are not covered by insurance in this province for a reason). I bought a new car last year and in one road trip through the mountains I got 4 chips and 2 window spanning cracks (I didn’t even get a chance to fill them in)

        Big Rock is good… but Wild Rose Beer is even better. Be warned, beer is more expensive than in Ontario or Quebec.

  44. dallyd31 says:

    Below is what Eklund is reporting on the Cammy trade: ( Eklund is hack, but I would assume the actual quotes are correct)

    -One player this morning flat out told me it was “Addition through subtraction” and another adding, “the real stars in the league don’t believe talent means you have no accountability.” A scout called him “entitled” which is a word I also heard tied to the player when a certain team let him go without a fight…Why that same team got him back is truly amazing.

    • krob1000 says:

      Yeah but it was Campoli, Gill and Darche that he interviewed.

      • dallyd31 says:

        Who cares (although nobody was interviewd..it was a conversation). The sentiment is still the same.

        And is it still a very good trade. A 5’9″ guy who plays like he is 4’9″ traded for a guy who is bigger, nastier, has more goals in the last 3 years, half the cap hit and no ego/room issues.

        What isn’t to like.

        • krob1000 says:

          I just think the team is being pulled in too many directions…you have the New Jersey influence, you have the Hal Gill influence, you have the Euro East/West game, you have the Cole size/speed play up and down the wings, you have D that is made for a quick transition game (Subban, Kaberle, Markov, Diaz Weber, Campoli) then you have Gill and Gorges and Emelin somewhere in between. Then there is the Darche/Blunden,etc who have to fight tooth and nail for their shot in the show who must get frustrated with guys slacking and taking icetime for granted…..first thing they need to do is clearly define an objective and plan…based on wha appears to be the objective I can see us trying to resign AK and possibly Moen (not as important IMO with White returning). If they do not sign they will be dealt at the deadline. I actually think PG has a plan in place and is implementing it as we speak.

        • bleedhabs81 says:

          the potential. That is what is fans dislike.

          Really, that is the only thing not to like.

          Cammy had the “potential” to put up 40 goals (or so we thought). We know the ceiling on bourque and if we are lucky he pots a few over 30… most likely 25 though.

  45. krob1000 says:

    From Damien Cox Toronto Star….http://thestar.blogs.com/thespin/

    “What’s unclear is whether they’d want to do that, or in general, where the Habs are headed. Cammalleri and Jaroslav Halak were the heroes of the run to the conference final three years ago, and neither is in Montreal any more. Montreal is 24th overall, and with their playoff chances dimmer than Calgary, this wouldn’t be a bad year to take the hit, sink further and draft high in June.

    This is, most believe, a very good draft.

    But dumping out of the playoff race isn’t what the club is publicly saying, so we’ll watch and guess for a while longer”

  46. jules says:

    Euro players are all the same. Kov was the same. They are all cut from the same cloth.

  47. jimmy shaker says:

    Does the media help or hurt this organization?

    Shaker

  48. jules says:

    AK doesn’t perform well in the playoffs. Everyone’s level picks up In the playoffs and his goes down. I don’t care of someone scores like Crosby all year. In the playoffs if they shy away from passes and are afraid to take a hit. They are not worth keeping.

  49. Richard B says:

    Where did all the other writters go? No offence to Boone but I miss all the other stuff that used to be posted on here. Boone maybe my favorite…but this site is not nearly as good as it was in previous years.

    The switch from “habs inside out” to “Hockey inside out” has not been a good one.
    Richard B

  50. duffy says:

    When watching the interview with Cammalleri after the trade he seemed pretty happy about it. I think his little outburst the day before was his way of making sure he would be traded.

  51. adam76 says:

    The fact this site was down again last night was an embarrassment. For three seasons, the second a “major” story hits, this site goes down faster then a 25 dollar hooker. You have had three + years, and you still can not provide fans with a usable site.

    • EveningCommute says:

      yikes! I thought it was my neighbor’s wireless that gave me the error. I’ve been stealing his signal for years now… i guess the little rendevouz for a few cocktails with his wife tonight should be postponed. Payback for a lousy wireless signal is not warranted after all! He’s a Leaf’s fan, so maybe still…. plus she’s cute!

    • Ali says:

      This site crashed, hockeydb crashed and so did capgeek when the trade was announced. it was quite the mess.

      • Chrisadiens says:

        Twitter did not. Which is why I use it more than this site now.

        Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

      • J_P says:

        Hahahaha I noticed that also. I thought it was just my internet connection until i realized that every other site was loading up just fine.

        I guess everyone wanted to find out who that prospect is, what bourques numbers were, and what his cap hit is.

  52. jules says:

    AK looks terrified in the playoffs. And if this team ever wants to make the playoffs it’s better ye aquire a playoff performer. He’s only playing well for money. That’s it. So I think while he is making an effort they should try to get something for him

  53. jules says:

    This team has not been looked after by PG. he has chucked them under the bus. Mentally preparing for a game. And 3 times in half a season people dropped with a bomb is ridiculous. Structure is the only thing that can save this team. Maybe next year. New GM. New coach. Some new players. Maybe that will turn the tide

  54. jules says:

    The media has to much influence on this team. It’s brutal. Fire people during games. Right before games. Cammi makes a remark and people jump out and say he wants out. I have no problem with the trade. I agree we need size. Just seems like PG reads something once and pulls the trigger before the day is done. One more protest about RC not speaking French as the trigger will be pulled before the season is don’t as well.

    • Les Canayens says:

      Three posts below you said: “Get rid of AK while he looks like he cares.”
      So what if he reads you and “pulls the trigger before the day is done”? You are THE MAN!

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      ☞ I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears.☜

  55. nyadguy says:

    Does anyone else think the Habs vision and professionalism left with Pierre Boivin? They have been uncharacteristically unprofessional and unfocused since the start of the season. He seems like the only big change since last year.

    • JoeC says:

      Cams played like a rookie on a rookie contract,

      How is that more professional.

      Good on the Habs, stop with this crap about letting players get away with not earning atleast half there contract, and Gomez i think is next unless RC gets him playing better, because i still think JM was bad for players like GOmez.

      • nyadguy says:

        I’m not talking about the deal. I’m talking about how it was done. This year they have let 2 coaches go on game day. Traded a player during a game (a game they could of won and didn’t need the added drama). Misjudged what the reaction would be when naming a ‘interim’ coach. Rumour has it that it’s hard enough to recruit free agents as it is (winters, taxes, and media) do we really need to add management to the barriers. Montreal has always been seen as a classy organization. Players would say it was one of the drivers for them to join the team. I’m not sure we can say that this year.

    • Timo says:

      You know what I find unprofessional? Getting paid 6 mil a year and not making an effort out there. THAT is unprofessional.

    • 123456 says:

      i think crap article – in the end the writer details what the habs need – if they can get it – DUH

      what the habs really need is an owner / GM / coach who will on occasion stick it to the media or a player if it’s deserved. the one sin charge hav edone that now.

      i dont love every move made by PG but i think there are more positives than negatives

    • J_P says:

      Not a great article in my opinion. This guy is commenting on the situation because its the hot topic, but you can tell he clearly knows nothing about the habs and is just regurgitating what hes probably read elsewhere.

    • matt jordan says:

      That’s how most people in the hockey world see it.

      Gauthier’s panic button has to be getting worn out by now.

      I can only hope every day that when i check HIO or TSN that Gauthier has been relieved of his duties.

  56. jules says:

    AK is a typical euro player. Contract years they perform ONLY last year in the playoffs he looked terrible. Coughed up the puck etc. I agree 100 percent. Get rid of AK while he looks like he cares.

    • JoeC says:

      Why not trade Price and PK since they have value and lets trade Cole too because he has value, we could bring up the Bulldogs and just play..

      Wow.

    • J_P says:

      Bergie said it best last night on l’antichambre: Trade kostitsyn for what? so we can try to acquire another player like him in the off-season via free agency?

      If we get rid of him, how do you propose we replace the 25 goals he consistently scores? I didnt realize that 25 goal scorers grow on trees.

      • sevenman says:

        The guy has scored 25 goals once in six years…..I guess that’s “25 goals he consistently scores”……do some reasearch before you post or you risk “consistently” looking bad

        • J_P says:

          Account for time missed due to injury and its three in his last five. I guess I should have specified that.

          27 (26 in 78)
          25 (23 in 74)
          20 (15 in 59)
          20 (20 in 81)
          and on pace for 25 (10 in 33) this season.

          and his two 20 goal seasons were under the stifling jacques martin who hated him, and pretty much everyones totals dipped under martin. Fair to say that on any other team he is most likely a 25-30 goal scorer.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Typical euro player? What a stupid comment…

  57. Storm Man says:

    Ok I’m about to blow here!!! This tank BS has to go and as fan’s of the team we need to be behind them all the way. I sick of the simpleton press in Montreal dumping on every UFA we pick up and every trade the team makes, Go and cover Quebec when it get’s a team sooner the better. Bourque has not put on the jersey yet and the press say’s he sucks and he is lazy ect ect pffffff. The press can do one of two things wait and see what happens when a trade is made or go toss off someplace I don’t care. At this rate once again who the hell would want to play here or coach here for that matter? As far as who is the next GM only mickey mouse would take the job at this point. Caliss

  58. jules says:

    I hear a lot of rumors about parise, But I think he will stay in NYJ.

  59. HABitat4humanity says:

    Agreed that taking out Cammy was a huge distraction. bad move PG!

    Habs are still a playoff team. I still believe that! We just need our 3rd & fourth line to produce goals to take pressure off our top 2. We have great opportunities but no finishers as of late.

    too bad we couldnt keep Halak. It would probably force Price to perform at a higher level. Also, althoug painful, RC needs to bench players like AK and Pacs when they are not scoring.

    • ebourcier says:

      PG is bush league.

      Ebour

    • 123456 says:

      i think price has played better w/o halak around….. some people need someone behind them pushing – other perform better w/o that pressure… IDK where prices falls as i dont know him but IMO he has playe dbetter w/o halak there.

    • JoeC says:

      Guess the only way you would be happy is if Price pitched a shutout every single game right?? Like last night, it was his fault that the puck took a terrible bounce, and it was his fault that Lucic’s shot wasnt on net, becauxse if it was, it wouldnt have missed and hit Gorges stick to go in, right?

      And Bench AK? Since RC has taken over hes been one of our best players, and Patchs is young, but lets go back to the JM style and NOT let our young players develop properly, lets put them in the press box because we all know how well JM developed rookies.

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      ummm, you don’t bench a guy who is working hard but not scoring.

      big tits and Max have been working, skating, hitting. Max was one of the best players on the ice in the first period. I didn’t watch the second because I accidentally saw the score in the 3rd period when I changed TVs (I pvr the game as it starts at 5pm here… and then my downstairs cable box was set to TSN, so when I turned it on I accidentally saw the score at the start of the third).

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Plus a major recovery of the PP, right?
      Cheers

  60. thehabsfan29 says:

    Do you think we could have got parise for cammy and a pick?

    • Les Canayens says:

      Do you think Lou Lamoriello would?

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      ☞ I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears.☜

      • thehabsfan29 says:

        I would have considered it.

        They dont have the money to re sign parise. they get a sniper like cammy in return (cammy already under contract)

        makes sense

        • Les Canayens says:

          Yes but do you think Lou Lamoriello would?

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          ☞ I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears.☜

        • dallyd31 says:

          If they don’t have $6-7million to pay parise, how the heck will they find $6 million to pay Cammalleri ?

          Maybe folks don’t understand how payroll and salary caps work

    • mdp2011 says:

      No way in hell would NJ would do that. Why would NJ even consider something like that? First off, they’re in deep financial trouble. Second, even if they had the money, why would they trade their captain to take on 14 million in salary for a guy who has 9 goals? Why not just sign Parise?

    • 123456 says:

      No – if NJ has cap issues getting $6 back does not help.

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      Why Parise? Is your intention to unload salary at the end of the year but still have an effective player for a push for the playoffs (assuming that the playoffs are realistic)?

      I ask because Parise is a free agent at the end of this year (UFA). So, if he doesn’t want to play here, he does not sign here and then we have given away Cammy and a pick for a rental…. which is idiotic if we don’t make the playoffs (losing the pick is idiotic, I mean).

      AND, if Parise wants to play here, then we can sign him in July

      • thehabsfan29 says:

        +1 well said
        i just find we could have got more for cammy. i like bourque alot but i feel we could have gotten him for less

        • bleedhabs81 says:

          I have seen a lot of Bourque (I live in Calgary and my company gives me free tickets… which I will use if there is no Habs game on TV that night) and I do like Bourque. He has a lot of skill and he is a decent sized guy. I have seen him plow through guys and finish pretty goals… but everyone is right, he doesn’t show up every game (who does anymore?)

          I would have loved to get more (who wouldn’t) but I don’t know if that much more was available. I mean, we traded a winger for a winger. Who would have traded us a #1 Center? Probably no one. So, the other option was a good defenceman. However, with the trade, we were really short on forwards. So the only other option is a prospect who has a high ceiling but is in no way gaurenteed to be awesome…

          Bourque is good, but he is only 2nd line good…. which can be said about all of our players. We don’t have a single “game changer” that we can count on for 82 games.

          At least we managed a 2nd round pick (which may be used with another player to get us a 1st rounder)

  61. newbrunswick troy says:

    I am all ok with this trade… we get a big player who is not afraid of the hit and grind game..(Cammy for sure was) and he will as well score about 20 goals a year! But most of all we save about 3million in salarie. I had no problem with Cammy but the style of play ..you know not skate hard and waite in a safe open area to get the puck then score…was just not this teams needs because frankly most of the team plays that way!!!

  62. jules says:

    I would like to see Eller play with bourque upon his arrival. I think Eller is a skilled guy. Maybe bourque could create some room. The say week Eller,Cole and surprisingly AK seem to be the only players who give a shit.

    • ebourcier says:

      AK only gives a shit because it is a contract year, we have seen this before from him and cant fall into that trap, PG needs to be fired right now, he cant be the one making these moves cause he will be gone in the offseason anyways. AK like his brother does not want to play in this big market, so he is going to walk on j-1. Trade him at the deadline for a first rounder(if possible).

      Ebour

  63. Captain aHab says:

    About the “he wasn’t shopped around” issue, he can block 7 teams so likely no point in asking them (unless you believe he wants out THAT bad). That’s close to a quarter of the teams gone. Then there are teams in the East that PG likely didn’t want to trade to. You can easily get to over half the league just with this. So what is so surprising?

    • mdp2011 says:

      exactly what I said below, plus what were the Habs’ needs? A big forward who can score, with a manageable cap hit and who was available, so that eliminates a few teams. Also, how many teams can take on 14 million in salary for the next 2 years with a 6 million cap hit for a guy with 9 goals, so there you eliminate another few teams. So basically you are left with only 2 or 3 teams you can actually deal with.

  64. krob1000 says:

    The only issue I have with the in game trading…is this…I heard Feaster say they were discussing the deal early in the afternoon and then working on it all day….so….why did Cammi dress at all?

    • Les Canayens says:

      What if the deal was still not finalized after the game? The François Gagnons of this world will write their master thesis on the healthy scratch alone.

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      ☞ I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears.☜

      • krob1000 says:

        Then why risk injury at all for the first 2 periods is my point. Sure the deal isn’t finalized but if it is that close why risk it?

        • Les Canayens says:

          It will make no difference if the deal is done today. Cammalleri would have still played the whole game last night.

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          ☞ I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears.☜

  65. krob1000 says:

    Could timing of been an issue….does PG want to tank? losing Gio may have been the last straw…hanging in against the BRuins may have been scary…what would the backlash have been if we won last night and he made that deal? Habs beat best team in NHL then trade Cammi…wouldn;t work. I think he knows with the Markov thing, Gio gone,etc….it’s over. I believe he watns what we do…to rebuild quickly. Some on here wish for a total re3build but with several big contracts over 30 and in a city of Montreal playoffs are expected next year. He just replaced Cammi’s output…and saved enough money to sign Subban. BGl comes off the books which takes care of Eller, Gill and Campoli takes care of Price. If we ditch Gomez I showed on an earlier post that we have plenty of room to make a splash and go after a rugged dman and more help up front and keep Moen and Andrei if so desired. I was suggesting Stoll and Gleason

  66. jules says:

    PG and his “scare tactics” are ridiculous. Bottom line, it was a close game. We were playing well. Why not keep him on the bench. Just bench him. That way with 12 minutes left in the third players are asking other players where he got traded when the focus should have been on winning the game. That was a GIANT distraction in my opinion. In a very winnable game.

  67. mrhabby says:

    i have never in all the years seen a player being lifted and then traded during the game. i guess there is a 1st for everything. however, it just leaves a very weird feeling that this was a knee jerk reaction/panic attack by the GM.
    like i said yesterday the team/organization needs a professional manager who has a steady hand at the wheel and can reset the organization in positive image not all the negative issues that have surrounded the team this year. I wonder if all the outside stuff would have happened with George Gillette around.
    Not sure having PG around to handle more changes is a good thing…confusing/insane times.

    ps..i wonder if some of the GMS in NHL are swearing at PG.

  68. punkster says:

    I remain optimistic.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nq34mISKUo

    You’re out of the woods
    You’re out of the dark
    You’re out of the night
    Step into the sun
    Step into the light

    Keep straight ahead for
    The most glorious place
    On the face
    Of the earth or the sky

    Hold onto your breath
    Hold onto your heart
    Hold onto your hope
    March up to that gate
    And bid it open

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  69. LL says:

    Jay Feaster just made a big mistake. Do the Flames not have a scouting dept.? I don’t dislike Cammy, but was hoping he would be traded since last season. He has not earned his mega-contract.

    Next year, Flames will be paying 7 mil to a player who is not in that category, and runs the risk of being the Flames’ Gomez.

    Kudos to PG – A horrible contract gone; no matter how Bourque turns out.

  70. Mike D says:

    Quick points:

    I don’t buy for a second that this was in the works for a while or that Cammy’s comments the other day had no part in the deal coming together like it did. I know Feaster corroborated PG’s story, but it’s easy for two GM’s who are making a trade involving millions of dollars and key players to get on the same page about a minor detail like this.

    I don’t like that Cammy was traded during a game. I don’t think that’s ever happened before and it reflects poorly on the whole organization from the perspectives of everyone (other players, your players, fans, agents, etc.). You just don’t do that. This also applies to my previous point about it being a last minute deal.

    Feaster said he didn’t think it was right to talk to PG about the deal b/c RB was serving his suspension…..but he saw fit to negotiate WHILE Cammy was playing? Doesn’t make sense.

    I like that we added 2.66mil (not 3mil as many are rounding to) in cap space and got a pretty good player in return in Bourque. Some of that gets negated by acquiring Kabs, but cap space is still good to have. We have important players to re-sign this summer.

    I like adding a 2nd rounder but how effective that is depends on who we draft with it, or what we do with it if it gets traded at some point.

    Holland’s projected ceiling is a 3rd/4th liner IF he makes the NHL, but he’s got good stats in junior so maybe he becomes useful to us down the road. Not likely though so temper expectations accordingly. He’s a 20 year old playing Junior on a good team and was a 7th round pick.

    I like that we probably don’t lose much with Ramo’s rights and the 5th rounder.

    We added size and grit which we need. Happy the powers that be finally realize that.

    Don’t like that Cammy wasn’t shopped properly. Of course I don’t know this as a fact, but the evidence makes it hard to refute. And no, I don’t just mean LeBrun saying one other GM wished he knew Camms was available. I mean ALL of the evidence.

    I don’t like that this deal wasn’t made closer to the deadline when desperation can often lead to an inflated return. Sure there’s risk there if Cammy gets hurt or if his production continues to suck, but if he regresses UP to the mean (even a bit), then that alone gets you more interest and a better return. More so if other “sniper” types are moved first and the teams unsuccessful in landing one get desperate or panic.

    I very much like that despite the circumstances around Cammy and the chaos in this organization this year, PG still did pretty good in the deal. He definitely didn’t get fleeced and he ma have even won. That said, he also sold low on Cammy and that’s not good. Has Cammy’s value ever been lower? Doubt it. Again though, he made out pretty good.

    With Cammy and RB being close in age, we didn’t really get any older. That said, why not make a move and get younger?

    Love that RB is a big AND physical presence and I think the guys will like that too. We obviously needed that.

    Last night was crazy!

    - Honestly yours

    • Malreg says:

      RE: the whole trading player in the middle of a game thing, it has happened before, it’s just very rare.

      Apparently once during a Canucks game the commentators announced that two players had been traded, but those two were still playing in that game. They were quickly pulled from the game.

      I don’t know who the players were, it was a long time ago.

    • HabFab says:

      Feaster said he had been talking a deal with the Canadiens for awhile (he has been shopping Bourque around) but it had gone nowhere until the call yesterday. Notice the way he chose his words, he had talked to PG (but not concerning Cammy) until yesterday. Just another half truth.

    • sevenman says:

      Why is everyone whining about Cammy getting traded in the middle of a game?…who cares?…PG’s responsibility is to look after his team

  71. jules says:

    Does anyone think Price will possibly be moved? I hate to say it but I can see him being moved. I don’t think anyone on this team is safe. To be honest, many good goalies exist in this league and some are playing back up and may very well be good enough to be starters. I always have this feeling that Price does not like it in Montreal. Since his arrival!

  72. wd40 says:

    Listening to Cammalleri’s post-trade interviews, I have a hard time believing this came as a shock to him. I’m not talking about the timing (i.e. mid-game) of the trade, but I haven’t heard him sound so relaxed and pleasant in a long, long time.

    What a strange, strange season.

  73. Le Jadester says:

    Who’s exit from the team was worse, with regards to disrespecting the organization ?

    a) Cammy
    b) Latenderness
    c) SK 74

    Habs, OLE !


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