Bourque out indefinitely with a concussion

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Rene Bourque in action last month in Ottawa.
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Canadiens forward Rene Bourque is out of action indefinitely, having been diagnosed with a concussion.

Habs head coach Michel Therrien told reporters at the team’s practice in Mississauga., Ont., Tuesday at noon-hour that Bourque doesn’t know how he sustained the concussion. He’s missed the past two games with what was advertised as flu-like symptoms. That obviously has changed.

Canadiens medical personnel have done tests during Bourque’s absence and have diagnosed the concussion.

“Sometimes you get these things and it doesn’t show up for a week or two,” Therrien said. “It’s a tough break because he’s been playing very well for us.”

Bourque has five goals and five assists in 17 games, playing on a productive line with Tomas Plekanec and Brian Gionta.

There will be no lineup changes for the Habs vs the Toronto Maple Leafs Wednesday night in Toronto. Carey Price will start in goal.

The Canadiens held a 45-minute workout at suburban Mastercard Centre, having chartered to Toronto Monday night following their 2-1 shootout loss to the Senators in Kanata.

 

534 Comments

  1. Nobody says:

    Bourque doesn’t know how he got the concussion? Try a Colton Orr right hook to the noggin 10 days ago. Orr should be in a bush league fight league with Donald Brashear.

  2. Old Bald Bird says:

    I hope they are going to reach out to Carbo for tips on coaching Ryder.

  3. Garbo says:

    Next trade, Paccioretty for Higgins :)

  4. Stevie.Ray says:

    Does anyone know who Ryder was playing with last year that helped him put up his best season since his rookie year? Anyone similar on our team?

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Gonna guess Ribeiro.
      P.S. Based on compilations by daily faceoffs.com,, lst line centre Ribeiro, 2nd Jamie Benn, 3rd Vernon Fiddler. Ryder spent most of his time on the first line. Surprisingly, the 1st line left winger was Steve Ott, and the very good Loui Eriksson was the 2nd line left winger. Don’t know about this year’s linemates.

  5. Lafleurguy says:

    Ok….which one of you armchair GMs called this one?…..I’m going to stop reading you guys for legit trade rumours; I’m goiing to Eklund instead…….

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  6. HabsProf says:

    A few numbers for comparison (don’t know if anyone else has done this – if so, I apologize). I was a bit surprised when I saw them.

    Which player is which over the last 5 years?
    Player A: 336GP 104G 99A 203Pts 0.604Pts/game +51
    Player B: 286GP 91G 71A 162Pts 0.566Pts/game -1

    Which player is which for their career?
    Player X: 721GP 222G 235A 457Pts 0.634Pts/game +15
    Player Y: 650GP 203G 207A 410Pts 0.631Pts/game +27

    Ready for the answers? Play A is Ryder and Player B is Cole. Ryder has played more games than Cole over the last 5 years (worst season 74 GP) and has been a more consistent scoring presence. He is scoring more points per game. And check out that ridiculous +/- differential.

    Player X is Cole and Player Y is Ryder. These two are more even on career stats (Cole’s totals are higher since he has been in the league longer). Their points/per game are almost identical.

    In short, given Ryder’s lower salary, younger age, better play this year (and just as good #’s last year as Cole), this isn’t a lopsided trade. The biggest unknown is contract status. Cole is under contract for two more seasons past this year while Ryder is an UFA after this season. Depending on what happens, this may be an advantage or disadvantage for Ryder.

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  7. Chrisadiens says:

    OK, in the interest of curiosity. What would it take to trade for Perry? He is just a rental after all..

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • JayK-47 says:

      Michael Ryder and a 3rd

      Kiddin!

      Who has been a big trade before losing to upcoming UFA lately? Drawing a blank here, keep thinking Richards, Parise, Suter but they were all UFA signees, no?

      Not really Gausted either…

  8. CaliHab says:

    Someone mentioned off-ice issues the other day.

    Ryder had a reputation for late night shenanigans of the sleazy variety when he played for the Canadiens. His character has been called into question numerous times, and he is often unmotivated.

  9. Stevie.Ray says:

    That makes 6 picks in the first three rounds

  10. HabFanSince72 says:

    And we get a 3rd round pick?

    Thanks Bob.

  11. Bripro says:

    The views are mixed but I like this trade. Agree with most that, although Cole was showing signs of last year, his best years are behind him.
    Max will surely miss him though.
    If Ryder can benefit from MT’s energy push, and also taking into the fact that the Habs also picked up a third round pick, this deal could turn put to be a steal for the Habs.
    I wonder if BG influenced Dallas into doing this.

  12. FrederictonHabsfan says:

    Habs get a third as well

  13. Thurston says:

    Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
    Dallas was looking for a forward who’s tougher to play against. They see that in Erik Cole and give up the upside of Ryder to get him.

    Since Bergevin and Therrien also want to be a tougher team to play against and they just traded Cole, I doubt Dallas is getting their man.

    • Whatever says:

      He is tougher to play against when he is playing his game. I saw it last year. I haven’t bought this stuff about Cole just having a slow start. Too far into the season. Just seemed disinterested. Kinda how Ryder looks, but somehow puts up the points.

  14. habs12 says:

    If anything, ryder’s another shot on the pp which has pretty predictable of late.

  15. JayK-47 says:

    Not a big fan of losing Cole. But it looks like a small step back to make a big leap forward.

    But how does it make sense for Dallas to send a pick back for salary? This seems like a move Bob Gain-

    Ohhhhhhh……

  16. mksness says:

    a salary cap move? i don’t get it. something must have been off in the room or there is another move coming. no need to worry about shedding salary now when you’re 1st in the division and not stressed about money.

  17. Rooster says:

    Must admit I wish it was Gionta going the other way instead

  18. Whatever says:

    I was a little surprised to just find out that Ryder last season had a duplicate year to our much heralded career year for Cole.

    And so far this year Ryder is doing much better. Two years younger and isn’t talking retirement.

    Hope the money saved is well spent. Must be the main reason.

  19. Hockey Bob says:

    Good riddance, Cole played like he did not want to be here. Just clearing some space for that big Perry boy.

  20. boing007 says:

    The Flying Freshmen plus Ryder?

    Richard R
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  21. Hobie Hansen says:

    The play of Gallagher, Galchenyuk and Bourque (before concussion) made Montreal more able to make a trade like this. Swapping Ryder for Cole is not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things. Plus we save a lot of cap space and have a lot more money to spend this summer!

    Buying out Kaberle and having the option to make an offer to Ryder or walking away gives us a lot of flexibility to sign some Bergevin style UFAs. Gauthier gave Cole that contract and it wasn’t a very good one.

    Good move by Bergevin.

  22. Sportfan says:

    Something about Canada and Cole haha at least he stayed here longer than in Edmonton

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  23. Danno says:

    The Cole Train had one wheel in the ditch and one on the track. Bergevin saw the signs that this wasn’t going to get any better and made a wise move and preventing a train wreck.

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  24. Say Ash says:

    I just googled “ryder cole”

    Not good!

  25. CaliHab says:

    we just got A LOT smaller, and lost Cole’s physical presence.

    I could tell he was coming around in the past few games.

    The fact that we acquired Ryder (whom I have never liked) makes it that much worse.

    MB’s first really bad trade…….

  26. Propwash says:

    “Everyone is on notice”
    Bergevin wasn’t kidding…

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  27. chilli says:

    Ryder UFA at year end. Cole had 2 more after this. We had his best year. Thanks for teaching Patches stuff.

    Bye.

    Tre

  28. Ncognito says:

    Cole’s days were numbered when he said he was going to retire. With that statement he quit on the team. He has a history of disappearing every second year so this year was right on par. Glad to see Ryder back in the fold!

  29. Rooster says:

    Love this trade, this is what our power play needs. I’d love to see Ryder play on a line with Chucky and Eller. This guy has a better shot than anyone on our team.

  30. Hoegaarden says:

    DD’s passing and Ryder’s wrist shot could bring nice dividends. We’ll see in 4 or 5 games how this pans out.

  31. Ian Cobb says:

    WAIT a min. What is this nonsense about Cole and Ryder.???

    Someone’s fantasy going out of whack??

  32. howtathor says:

    GREAT! I can dust off my Ryder jersey although he’ll need a new number! I hope he’s gotten over his fixation with paper airplanes!

  33. Bardya says:

    This is a steal by MB. Save on cap. (Possibility of signing a star free agent) Brought back a better scorer (temporarily). We have bourque, and max pac that can do what Cole couldn’t anymore, which is cutting to the net. Ryder’s a clutch sniper. Gonna help our pp.

  34. Ozmodiar says:

    I guess the Bergevin express left the station while our slow starter was still packing his toothbrush!!!

    Hopefully Dallas will be able to throw him a good retirement party!

  35. Sportfan says:

    he funny thing is Ryder is a natural goal scorer who isn’t 5’5 with a right handed shot probably to compliment plek with Bourques injury
    with cole we lose a guy who went in front of the net and was waking up finally
    if Cole never regains his form, and Ryder manages to help this season then the Cap dump could be good

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  36. CaliHab says:

    RYDER??????

    OMG HOLY RETREAD!!!

    baaaad move…..

  37. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Next move…trade for and sign Corey Perry…

  38. Garbo says:

    Weird. Not sure I like that.

    Cole has looked uninterested and slow this season… but maybe a little slack for being so good last year?

    There was obviously something else at play here behind the scenes. Cole was clearly not getting along with someone… my guess is Therrien.

  39. habs12 says:

    WOW love this trade. Talk about a turn-around….Last year, the ghost trades for Kaberle and his horrible contract, while giving up Spacek who was set to become UFA. This year, Bergevin trades a horrible contract for a guy who is younger, and a UFA this summer.

  40. Thurston says:

    Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
    Further to @TSNBobMcKenzie, the Ryder-Cole trade still awaiting trade call. The Habs also get a draft pick in the deal. Cole waived NTC

    Cap flexibility, a guy who was actually scoring this season AND a draft pick? Wow.

  41. JohnBellyful says:

    I dunno, maybe Cole had a rider in his contract that if he ever got kicked off the top line he’d be traded.

  42. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Looks like Cole lost his job with DD and Max and was willing to move on.

  43. shiram says:

    Cole had a NTC, so he had to approve this trade, and from his past comments he probably wanted out of Montreal.

  44. Ozmodiar says:

    Off-season cap flexibility, folks.

    This is great.

  45. piper says:

    Maybe a young goon prospect from Dallas in the deal? LOL!

  46. Hoegaarden says:

    Both Lavoie and G.Therrien (RDS) claim that Cole’s attitude in the room was more divisive than unifying.

  47. Lafleurguy says:

    Michael Ryder, 19games 6G 8A +4 PIM-8 TOI:16.22
    -eighth round pick 1998
    -gotta love the ’98 draft for the Habs:…..1st Eric Chouinard…..2nd Mike Ribeiro….3rd Francois Beauchemin….6th Andrei Markov…..8th Michael Ryder…. (thanks for lending me your style Steve in Surrey……)

    Ryder is 32, Cole 34. Both have a Stanley Cup ring.
    Ryder’s contract, final year $3.5 million. Cole year 2 of 4, $4.5 mill.
    Both had career high 35 goal seasons last year. Ryder has three 30 goal seasons, Cole two

    And the Habs get a 3rd round draftpick (this edit feature makes it look like I’m first in mentioning the draftpick!)

  48. Haligonian-Hab says:

    Love this trade

  49. habsfan0 says:

    I STILL say Ryder’s goal in Game 4 of 2011 playoffs was offside.

    http://youtu.be/0QE0wD3aYW0

  50. Thurston says:

    I wonder what, if any, input former Habs GM and special advisor Bob Gainey had in this trade for the Stars?

  51. knob says:

    For some reason I had come to the conclusion that we were moving away from perimeter players! Max Pac for Samsonov!

  52. HabinBurlington says:

    Corey Perry may be a Hab this summer or sooner.

  53. Mavid says:

    WHAT THE HELL?????

  54. Bardya says:

    This proves that this management doesn’t fk around. They felt like what Cole was giving for the money hes making was simply not enough. Bad trade by Dallas.

  55. Hobie Hansen says:

    Cole is slowing down. And he’s under contract at a cap hit of $4.5 million for another 2 full seasons after this year.

    Michael Ryder is just as good and he is a UFA this summer.

    Bergevin just got rid of a contract before it started to get ugly. Cole looked off this year.

  56. MICP says:

    I hate this move.

    Cole has a history of being a slow starter.

    The only way that this may make sense is……… I dont know.

    never mind

  57. Danno says:

    Cole looked apathetic many nights and seemed to be unhappy playing here. His heart just wasn’t into it like it was last year and so it’s for the best that he has been traded.

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  58. piper says:

    Hope MB shopped him around a bit first and didn’t just pull a PG.

  59. Habshire says:

    Along with the retirement comments I believe he also mentioned his kids not liking Quebec school. If he did request a trade keeping the whole thing quiet is all class.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      We’re paying government employees with pensions to conclude that “pasta is not a French word”…pathetic…

      • boing007 says:

        How about le clutch?

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • boing007 says:

        Love the trade. Don’t worry, Erik, it doesn’t snow as much in Dallas as it did today in Amarillo. Maybe Bob Cole will learn to love the Habs just a tad more with a Newfoundlander back in the fold. Finally, I’m sure that MT will make MR a better person.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  60. Stevie.Ray says:

    Mind is blown. $$$ move. Wish we could have gotten someone younger

  61. ooder says:

    saves capspace and ryder has been a consistent scorer through out his career, although we do lose net presence. will be interesting to see how this pans out

  62. Mothstoflame says:

    This is my fellow Newfoundlanders dream, Ryder was treated poorly by us. Newf dawg (Ryder) will be welcomed back, cole seems like one of those guys that show up on your beer league team and whines who he is playing against

  63. commandant says:

    Not a big fan of this move.

    Cole is a slow starter who was coming around. He’s a big body who hits a lot when he’s on his game. Ryder isn’t that.

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  64. piper says:

    I just traded him two weeks ago in my hockey pool.

  65. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Also Ryder is a right-handed shot which the Habs needed…good move by MB. Clears cap space for next two seasons…

    • sirs81 says:

      Was it not Ryder that save the Bruins two years ago in the first round by making that glove save against us? I been hearing that the Bruins wanted Ryder back :)

  66. BrownHabFan says:

    If he doesn’t want to play here then good riddance…goodbye 4.5 million cap hit…hello ryder with your amazing wrist shot…he’s also a UFA at the end of the year which means more cap space…all we got to do next is trade Gionta and with the gomez 7, gionta 5, and the cole which is now the ryder 3.5….that’s 15.5 million cap space we get to work with….can you say? WOOOHOO!!

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  67. HabFanSince72 says:

    Quiz of the day. Who leads the Habs in scoring this year?

    Answer:Michael Ryder.

  68. HabFanSince72 says:

    The trade makes sense for us. Cap issues for next year. This saves a lot of space. Also Ryder is having a better year than Cole so far.

    What I don’t understand is why Dallas would have done this.

    • Thurston says:

      Ryder was tied for the Stars team lead in points with six goals and eight assists for 14 points in 19 games. Cole had three and three assists for six points for the Habs.

      Question now is who gets #73? Does Gallagher keep it or give it back to Ryder? Using the return of Bouillon as an example, I say Ryder goes for the new number.

  69. HabsFansince49 says:

    As a big Michael Ryder fan and a Newf I am so pleased. Hope it is true.

  70. Mattyleg says:

    Holy Shit!
    Amazing.
    Someone on here today was just saying that trading him was a big mistake, and I agreed (in my mind).

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  71. HabFanSince72 says:

    That’s too bad – I really liked Cole.

    Then again I always liked Ryder.

    That being said, Cole was having trouble this year. You got the impression his body couldn’t handle the hard knocks anymore. Even recently when he was playing better he would fall down a lot and avoid running through people like he did last year.

    So long Erik. We’ll miss you.

  72. piper says:

    I would be willing to bet that Cole asked to be traded.

  73. Propwash says:

    Wow, Cole for Ryder. Totally out of left field…

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