Bouillon will be healthy scratch again for Habs against Devils

The Canadiens held an optional practice Tuesday morning in Brossard as they prepared to face the New Jersey Devils Tuesday night at the Bell Centre.

Tomas Plekanec, Brian Gionta, David Desharnais, Max Pacioretty and P.K. Subban opted out of the practice.

There will be no changes to the Canadiens’ lineup from Saturday’s 2-1 overtime victory over the Chicago Blackhawks, which means that Francis Bouillon will be a healthy scratch again.

Carey Price will start in goal for the Canadiens and Martin Brodeur will be in goal for the Devils.

Here’s how the Habs’ lines and defence pairings are expected to look against the Devils:

Moen-Plekanec-Gionta
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Briere-Eller-Bourque
Bournival-Prust-Parros

Gorges-Subban
Markov-Emelin
Murray-Diaz

(Photo by Dave Sidaway/The Gazette)

Habs vs. Devils preview, NHL.com

Game Day Report, Canadiens.com

Devils looking for offence from top line, NHL.com

Game Day Notes, The Star-Ledger

Three reasons why Daniel Briere could be traded to Devils, The Star-Ledger

TradeCentre, TSN.ca

Kovalchuk thinks retirement worked out for both himself and Devils, The Star-Ledger

Price, Subban get good news from Team Canada (video), Canadiens.com

Habs hope win over Hawks start of something special, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Markov hopes to stay with Habs, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

Coach Therrien says Plekanec deserves Selke votes, montrealgazette.com

 

198 Comments

  1. Plekasuares says:

    Wow. Why Am i surprised…. JOKE

  2. Plekasuares says:

    Hai Boone.

  3. Les-Habitants says:

    Could we please see Bournival given another chance on the top line, pleasssee!!! Moen is fine for late game situations, but for those first 40 minutes put the kid up there. He did great last time and gives that line some much needed jump

  4. shiram says:

    Check this picture out :
    http://imgur.com/DU6hXgS

    Screams hockey uh?

  5. icemachine says:

    Had to laugh at the last entry in the Grantland NHL Dictionary written by McIndoe

    grantland.com/features/sean-mcindoe-nhl-grantland-dictionary/

    Zamboni (n.) — the massive contraption that can be seen slowly circling the ice several times a game but is not Douglas Murray.

  6. JUST ME says:

    Of course expectations about tonight`s game are not at the same level as before saturday`s game and even more now after the great game played against Chicago . Remains to be seen what the Habs will have learned from that game and can bring on the ice tonight.

    Hopefully they take control of the game and impose their rythm and get efforts from everyone on the roster. If saturday`s game was a turning point we should see it and feel it quickly.

    Still can`t say who between Martin Brodeur and Patrick Roy is my favorite all time goaler. Not fair cause Roy was a hab and i have always found Brodeur so great so for now it`s a tie and i think it shall remain that way in my book. One thing though that bugs me more and more is that: well that could be my last game here thing that we have been hearing for a while now…But it`s o.k. i`ll get over it…

  7. rhino514 says:

    I think the mentality towards this year´s trade deadline should be to be attentive to a good opportunity presenting itself.
    If a good right-handed Dman becomes available, they should try and sign him. I like our team, but I´m nervous of having a bottom pairing of Diaz and Murray/Bouillon in the playoffs.
    If by some odd chance a rugged winger with some offensive talent becomes available, then they should grab that opportunity.
    whichever presents itself.
    I have a slight prefernce for the Dman option, because:
    1) it would allow Emelin to play his good side, and it would also counterbalance the small forward corps we have (much like the 2010 Cup run, when we had smallish forwards, but we had two Skodas on the back end along with Markov, Gorges, and Gill, and I think this was a major reason we were able to have success)

    2) I actually think there is a good chance Gionta,Briere, and Bourque can do well in the playoffs. You can´t really bench these guys in the playoffs (Gionta is the captain, Briere was signed for this purpose, and Bourque has size and you can bet those disallowed goals of his will be allowed in the playoffs). Getting a forward would mean having to bench one of these guys. A la limite you could do this to Bourque (unless he´s part of a trade of course), but the replacement would have to be a pretty darn good player, have size as well, and be more than just a rental. Tough qualities to come by.
    If no one of interest is available or if they are strictly rentals with only a slim chance to re-sign, forget it. the team is still very competitive.
    I just think that to make a deep run, they need one more good, big, defensive defenceman (though if Emelin rounds into form it will surely help)

  8. habsfan0 says:

    After playing arguably their best game of the season against the high flying Hawks, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Habs had a letdown vs the boring Devils.

    • scotland says:

      “a let down against devils” after ot win over stanley cup champs.

      if so i would hardly refer to it as a “let down”
      more of a return to reality. habs have played what 50 games give or take….and the game against the hawks is the only one where they played a game that well this season. returning to normal would be how i would describe a poor effort (and a yawner to watch) against the devils tonight.

      that was a great game to watch on sat………but most of the time watching habs try to play nhl caliber is painful.

    • frontenac1 says:

      No amigo,just typical Hogtown press arrogance that every good player in the league is going there. Been going on for years.Saludos!

      • Strummer says:

        You’re underestimating Leiweke.
        The only thing stopping him right now is a hard salary cap.
        When Stamkos is UFA in 2 years he may find it hard to resist coming to his hometown which happens to be the No. 1 (or No.2) hockey market in the world.
        ______________________________________________________
        “It’s just an opinion- I could be wrong”

    • Cal says:

      Lieweke can’t bring Tampa weather to Toronto, so it will never happen. Besides, the Lightning will lose St-Louis to retirement soon enough. They won’t divest themselves of their superstar who is about to turn 24.

  9. Scout says:

    I’m sure we’re in for another yawnfest with FATSO posting a shutout.

  10. Maksimir says:

    My second PP unit would be:

    Eller-Briere-Galch
    Emelin-Diaz

    I would even change the top PP unit to:

    Eller-DD-Patches
    Markov-Subban

    And let Gally play with Briere & Galch

    If MT went out of his way to get DD going offensively, I think he needs to do the same with Eller at some point.

    Especially since I have Eller in my hockey pool. :)

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Except we have almost 6 more weeks before Galchenyuk will be healthy to play. His injury will hopefully at least open up some opportunity for Briere.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Forget Diaz. He had his chance. Put Crankshaft on the point. I hear he can actually hit the net.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Thing is, DD and Max are the only players I’ve ever seen MTL go out of there way to try to develop offensively.

      Everyone else gets the play a defensive role and produce under 3rd line/no PP circumstances or you don’t have offensive potential worth developing treatment.

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

  11. SteverenO says:

    Am I the only one who thinks that playing Moen with Plekanec and Gionta is a terrible mistake?

    Here,s why:

    Briere/Plekanec/ and Gionta have played as line for 98 minutes and the team has scored 8 goals, an average of one goal every 12 minutes.

    The team as a whole averages one goal every 27 minutes. the “next best” line pacioretty/desharnais/gallagher scores on average one goal every 21 minutes.

    Moen has played with Plekanec and Gionta for 71 minutes this season
    and the team have scored a total of one goal during that time.

    Unless we are playing to try and win 1-0, Moen should not play anywhere near Plekanec and Gionta.

    This (today’s lineup) has only one potential “scoring” line, 67/51/11.

    32/14/21 hardly ever score ( one goal in 71 minutes )
    Ellers line , with Bourque ( one goal scored every 50 minutes at even strength) is not a threat and the 4th line with Parros (likely to play less than 5 minutes is not really a factor) .

    If the lines are what they are predicting, we better hope that the PowerPlay gets back on track as we will npot see very many even strength goals.

    regards,

    Steve O.

    • Cal says:

      They are a shutdown line. It is not their job to score goals. Why not try to figure out how many times that line has shut down the opposition, with Toews, Ovechkin and Crosby as being the ones they play against.
      Stats. Pah!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I get the feeling sometimes that you think a coach could actually coach an entire game with never watching the play, but just simply make line changes and combinations based on statistical data gathered before and during the game.

      During the Chicago game this line created scoring chances while shutting down Toews and company. I am not sure how that is a bad thing.

      • SteverenO says:

        @ HabsinBurlington

        I don’t take it the wrong way, …. But I DO think a coach (and his staff) should pay A LOT of attention to statistical data and PREPARE for a game based on analysing prior performance metrics.

        During the game a coach should be able to make logical adjustments based on events that have transpired, how the opponents match up, game situation, etc.

        regards,

        Steve O.

    • Mattyleg says:

      You’re looking at the wrong stats.
      It’s more about goals against than goals for.
      Moen is very responsible defensively, and on the PK, the two of them have more 2-on-1s than Therrien’s received Christmas cards from the Commentariat.

      This is a shutdown line that Therrien has constructed.

      But looking at stats alone wouldn’t necessarily give you that info; you’d have to watch a game for that!
      ;)

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • SteverenO says:

        @ Matty:

        I respect your opinion, but perhaps it is you who is looking at the wrong stats?

        2 on 1’s, and scoring chances, don’t win games, goals do…

        Our Penalty Kill is MUCH more effective both defending and scoring when Moen is NOT on the ice.

        Why are you assuming that I don’t watch the games, the fact that I analyze the performances of the players after the game?

        My position is that while it is possible that with Moen, the Plek line will allow slightly fewer goals than with Briere ( although so far that has not been the case) but it an absolute certainty that ,with Moen, the line will score less often, SIGNIFICANTLY less often.

        regards,

        Steve O.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Put down the stat sheet and turn on the TV. ;-).

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      The risk is that if you put Briere on that line it becomes weaker defensively. Then if you use the Eller line to counter the other team’s top line, maybe they don’t do as a good a job.

      That said, I agree with you. We’re the Montreal Canadiens goddamn it not the Devils.

      With Moen on that line and Prust on Eller’s we have almost no offence.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Have you forgotten were a Grinding Team?

        • DipsyDoodler says:

          I think what happens here is that every coach plays not to lose.

          The reason they do that is if you lose two games in a row – or even two periods in a row – the fans start asking for your head. On a platter.

          So coach after coach adopts this defence first shutdown style.

          I actually can’t believe the commentariat wants Moen on the first line. Holy Moly!

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I don’t think we “Want” Moen on our first line, but we are in a bit of a weird spot right now. Bourque should be up there, but he has played terrible lately. Briere simply doesn’t help that line I don’t think. Galchenyuk is hurt, and Gallagher is needed with DD and Max.

            It becomes Moen by default, lesser of two evils.

      • Cal says:

        Eller is playing with Briére and Bourque. Bourque mentioned that channel 12 news he’d like them to stay together for a bit to build more chemistry. Of course, if he mails in a few more no one will care.

    • gmur says:

      In general I agree with what you said, but the coaching staff must take more into account than whether a line can score or not. They are probably counting on other lines to pick up the slack. There are lots of teams that have a better goals for/goals against ratio than the Habs and are below them in the standings.

      As for statistics in general, Jean Perron had it right:

      “C’est la pointe de l’asperge.”

    • showey47 says:

      I agree, Moen has no business being anywhere else but the 4th line. If anything bournival should be playing in the top 9. Its like trying to figure out why gorges and/our bouillon play 2nd pairing pp mins. Bouillon has 1 pp point since 2011 and gorges who has something like 2 pp pts in 4 years.

    • bwoar says:

      YES, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THAT.

      Please look up “Sample Size”. Also, you haven’t even managed to take goals against into account – this is more selective nonsense. It’s not analysis.

      When you come on here to “prove” a point with stats, someone objects intelligently, and you reply with a cliche like “can’t win if you don’t score”, how painful is the cognitive dissonance? On a scale of 1-10?

      “thoroughbred”

      • SteverenO says:

        @Bwoar

        you wrote:

        *****************************************************
        YES, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THAT.

        Please look up “Sample Size”. Also, you haven’t even managed to take goals against into account – this is more selective nonsense. It’s not analysis.

        ****************************************************
        Actually I did take goals against into account, and yes let’s talk about “Sample Size”

        constantly referring to sample size is , in my opinion, a “straw man” tactic or argument that people use when they don,t agree with the data. Why would anyone assume that the coach, or fans for that matter, would have access to any more information than the person who is analyzing the statistics.

        For example, in this case the sample size used to compare the performance of Moen/plek/Gionta line versus the Briere/Plek/Gionta
        is 71 minutes for Moen et al , and 98 minutes for Briere et al.

        With Moen they scored once in 71 minutes and allowed one goal.
        With Briere they scored 8 times in 98 minutes and allowed one goal.

        if you use one minute as the average length of a shift, are you saying that 71 shifts with one goal scored is NOT enough of a sample size to
        predict that this line will never be a “high scoring ” line? Perhaps you figure that there is a strong chance that they will play 27 minutes in the next two games and score 7 goals so that there production will be equivalent to the line when Briere is playing left wing?

        On the defensive side, the line with Briere has been on for the same number of GA then they have been with Moen but they have played 27 minutes additional TOI. It is possible that Moen/Plek/ and Gionta will shut down the opponents for their next 27 minutes, but even if they do, how can anyone know that they would not have done the same with Briere?

        Basically with Briere the line averages 1.15 goals per game scored and one goal per every 6 games allowed (0.14). With Moen they average one goal scored for every 5 games, or (0.20) goals scored, and allowed per game.

        Of course you are entitled to your opinion, and if you think that Therrien has some magical ability to assess/judge player performance and line combination performances, in a way that is more accurate than their historical ACTUAL performance indicates, please don’t let anyone convince you otherwise.

        You wouldn’t want facts to get in the way of your opinions now, would you?

        Finally you wrote…
        ***************************************************
        When you come on here to “prove” a point with stats, someone objects intelligently, and you reply with a cliche like “can’t win if you don’t score”, how painful is the cognitive dissonance? On a scale of 1-10?
        ****************************************************

        First of all, I don’t come here to “prove” any points. I come to state my opinions which are usually based on an analysis of the available data.

        When the “intelligent” objector only talks about defense, it may be a cliché , but it is appropriate to remind him/her that with a team that is struggling to score goals, bolstering the defense by sacrificing offense may not be the best strategy. Why?

        Because you cannot win of you don’t score any goals.

        As far as cognitive dissonance goes.. you should perhaps look in the mirror my friend; the term is used to describe the feeling of discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs.

        I do not have any conflicting beliefs. You , on the other hand want to believe that the coach is some kind of “expert”. When presented with facts that show his decisions do not make sense you need to try and discredit me, and the data, in order to reduce your “dissonance”.

        Unless you have some reason to believe that Moen’s lack of offensive production, that goes back several years, will magically improve, or that the defensive efficiency that has been demonstrated by the line of Briere/Plek/Gionta allowing only one goal over 98 minutes (shifts) and being a (=/-) + 7 is some kind of statistical aberration, shouting “SAMPLE SIZE” is nothing OTHER than a display of cognitive dissonance

        regards,

        Steve O.

  12. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    In the excitement (and amazement) at beating the Hawks on Saturday, I forgot to ask if anyone else noticed Markov dropping to one knee for a second after scoring the OT winner.

    Biggest celebration I’ve seen from him! PK must be rubbing off ;)

  13. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    From LeBrun:

    The life of Briere

    Veteran winger Daniel Briere has been terrific since being reinserted into the Montreal Canadiens lineup.

    Trade rumors were flying after he was a healthy scratch during the holidays and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that he didn’t sign in Montreal as a veteran free agent last summer to watch games from the press box. So, no, he wasn’t happy.

    But he’s had an impact since returning to the lineup and that situation seems to have settled down for now. What also helped, a source told ESPN.com, is a conversation Briere had with GM Marc Bergevin, reassuring him of his role and value to the team. Credit goes as well to head coach Michel Therrien, who found a role that worked for Briere. With forward Alex Galchenyuk injured and sidelined for six weeks, Briere now should have a chance at regular ice time.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Right now there are no glaring holes in the line-up. People will point to the roster spots of Parros, Bouillon, Murray and Briere but MB brought those guys in to be part of a plan. It may not get people too excited but any possible trade is going to mean losing a solid asset or just shuffling the deck of cards so you land up with a newcomer who is similar to the four guys you already have in town.

      • Ghosts of the Forum says:

        I think scoring is a major concern, especially in the playoffs when it’s at a premium.

        But in a close battle for top of the division, I’d say, yep on the whole things are good. No need to do anything drastic.

        • 24 Cups says:

          No argument there but let’s say you went for a guy like Moulson. He’s certainly better than the usual candidates like Jagr who did little in last year’s playoffs. The cost would be either a 1st rounder + another mid-level prospect , Beaulieu or Tinordi. The Habs really don’t have any other assets that would meet the value of Moulson. Would you be willing to make that move knowing full well that he in all likelihood will sign somewhere else on July 1st?

          • CJ says:

            Absolutely not. I hope they don’t even consider a rental.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Amen! No way MB is picking up a significant rental this year. At most I think he moves out spare parts (UFA’s like Gionta, Frankie, Murray if another team offers something).

            He is going to be patient, develop our prospects and perhaps next year we start adding pieces. Until this team knows forsure what they have in Beaulieu, Tinordi and perhaps Pateryn I don’t see big trades where they move out.

          • Ghosts of the Forum says:

            Totally agree. No way on a rental.

    • Timo says:

      Terrific is not the word I would use.

  14. 24 Cups says:

    Bripro – my point was that Montreal can’t carry 5Dmen who all make more than 4M a season. Hence, my view that bringing him in would lead to the trading of Emelin or Gorges this summer. What’s to be gained by doing that? Secondly, adding Volchenkov means four of those five guys are on the left side. Then there’s the anticipated promotion of Beaulieu and Tinordi, who also are lefties. Volchenkov would basically block their promotion. I think we also have to ask the question, why would Lou want to trade a 31 year veteran when he is desperate to make the playoffs and not give back a lottery pick to the NHL? As well, the entire idea of bringing in Briere was the fact that he has a strong playoff track record. Why trade him now when we’re half way there?

    I don’t see why the Habs just can’t sit still on the deadline. A lot of bad moves are made at the time that usually have long term implications. Not everybody turns out to be Butch Goring.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I could see the habs making some small moves at the deadline and maybe getting some picks or something for Frankie B but I don’t see anything major coming. Maybe move Diaz for some picks as our back end is about to get really expensive and the habs could let Pateryn or Beaulieu, Tinordi come up and be a 7th d man next year.

      I actually wouldn’t mind having Murray back for one more year

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  15. HabinBurlington says:

    There is actually 2 trade deadlines this year, as during the Olympic break a trade freeze takes affect. First deadline is Feb. 7th.

    http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/28775/olympic-break-creates-two-trade-deadlines

  16. Sportfan says:

    If could only protect 6 forwards, 3 D and Price from getting traded, or drafted who would you protect?

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  17. DipsyDoodler says:

    Volchenkov is 9th out of 9 in time on ice per game for the Devils. He’s last on his team in every stat of puck possession, although this being the Devils the numbers are still pretty good. He gets $4.5M/yr for another two years. However he is their number one penalty killer and they have the 4th best PK in the league. Then again penalty killing is our strength.

    Makes no sense.

  18. sirs81 says:

    I think Markov will become a player agent after he is done in the NHL

  19. Sportfan says:

    I rather Ott for Briere

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  20. bwoar says:

    The water in Jersey must be turning a deep brown again?

    Vochenkov is an injury machine. Way overpaid & for longer than Briere. We have assets coming up on D, I don’t want to see them bring in anyone on a contract for 2 more years.

    “thoroughbred”

    • Stimpy007 says:

      I agree! Volchenkov is a great hitter but at that salary, yikes i dont think its a good idea.

      Markov 5+
      Subban 8+???
      Gorges 4
      Emelin 4
      Vochenkov 4

      Thats too much tied up in D and would hinder the chance of our D prospects (which we have alot of talent) making it anytime soon.

      He is essentually the same as emelin. Which is good but we will be spending too much.

      Some would say trade briere for anything but…… not sure Volchenkov to the habs would help us??

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Speaking of which, I hear that if there is one more Chris Christie scandal Greenpeace is sending the Rainbow Warrior to Jersey.

  21. Mark C says:

    Some Anton Volchenkov romanticism going on. Guy just isn’t very good anymore. He’s really only an upgrade to the third pair. Is it really worth moving Danny for an extra year at $4.25, when the alternative is calling up Tinordi?

  22. Mr. Biter says:

    A good friend of mine who follows all of the NHL not just the Habs e-mailed me right after the noel firing in Winnipeg and told me he’ll be our next coach, probably next year. Apparently Noel and MB are close friends and right now the relationship between MB and MT is strained that the 2 barely talk .He also told me minutes about Bourque being a hot/cold player who barley goes to the corners and also about Murray”s lack of speed well before it was mentioned on this site as well as laughing about the Briere signing. Just a rumour from someone whose facts seem to come true.
    BTW I talked to him last sat. night and he said Noel would be gone Sunday and there he went.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

    • bwoar says:

      No.

      “thoroughbred”

    • Cal says:

      lol. Noel as Habs head coach. Hell, even Cunneyworth got to coach them, so who knows?

    • Habs1962 says:

      Sounds like all of our buddies… they got stories
      Borque and Murray’s pros and cons were well know ,,, they have displayed it for years.
      Brierre.. many didn’t like the signing.. but I’d say keep watching for this to play out… Brierre will pots some in the playoffs .. we missed that last year in playoffs.. out shoot and out play Ottawa and not being able to score… no guaranteees, but lets see.
      So your buddy didn’t have any inside scoops there so we the Noel Therrien stuff… who knows. Doubt it

    • AliHaba says:

      All that you said about Bourque or Murray was not unknown before either came to Montreal. There was always the hope that Bourque would shed his inconsistent habits. As for Murray, all you had to do was watch the Penguins in the play-offs last year and it was quite obvious for all to see. He certainly wasn’t signed for his speed.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      :) Noel wouldn’t even be a candidate for the HC job. Someone with “insider” knowledge like your friend has should know this.

      I hope Ek-lund isn’t reading this…

    • CJ says:

      Haha, you made my day! There was not one thing your friend said that should come as even a remote surprise to anyone who follows hockey.

  23. Mattyleg says:

    Had a strange thought; I kind of prefer reaching toward the top than being there and hanging on to it.

    Teams always play their hardest against top teams, while they let their game slip against pretenders.

    I say, keep within striking distance, play .500 or so… then at the end of the season, turn on the jets, pounce, and finish at the top with a full head of steam!!!!

    (because it works like that, right? …right…?)

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  24. Hobie Hansen says:

    Vochenkov would create more offense! Less time spent in the Habs end means more time spent elsewhere. Quite simple.

  25. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Actually, the more I think about it:

    Subban – Markov
    Emelin – Volchenkov
    Gorges – Murray

    does sound pretty good. With the exception on our 2nd PP unit, that is.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      the 2nd PP unit plays about 20 seconds a PP if at all. Emelin and Plekenec on the point sounds good to me.

    • shiram says:

      Second PP wave is quite bad for the D already, so no changes there.

    • stephen says:

      As long as we’re playing, let’s sweet-talk Lou into sending Jagr over as well, sending back an up and coming phenom named Bourque.

      Bah humbug, back to reality.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Of course, the fact that this “rumour” was (self-admittedly) just a journalist saying he thinks it’d be a mutually beneficial trade, means that it’ll never happen, as no GM (especially Lamariello) is going to pull the trigger on a deal proposed by a journalist…

    • CJ says:

      Hook, line and sinker. Why is this journalist given any credibility? We take this report as fact and all of a sudden folks are creating lineups. The next defencemen should come from Hamilton. I’d rather Pateryn or Tinordi then the A train. Way too many miles on that guy to be productive for two more years. I watched him sacrifice his body blocking shots and taking hits for years in Ottawa.

  26. Sportfan says:

    Adam Henrique for Briere do it ! LOL 3 reasons why Devils trade for Briere, 1 he’s old, 2 he’s overpaid, 3 check 1 and 2.

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  27. Sportfan says:

    The Habshave started with Markov how much and how long do you think he will get? I’m thinking 3-4 years at 3.5-4.5, sorry if this has already been written.

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    • shiram says:

      I have a hard time seeing him go for such a low cap hit, look at the deals Gonchar and Streit signed recently, and Markov is better.
      He might give the team a slight discount, but don’t count on him making less than he does not.
      Something like 3 years/18 millions is very possible.

    • jols101 says:

      His cap hit will be at least the 5.75 million he is making right now.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Same contract. 3 yrs, 5.75 per. Nice and simple. I think this is why he doesn’t have an agent.

      5.75 is a home town discount, BTW.

    • CJ says:

      If we’re guessing, I’m saying his starting point will be 5 years and $35 million. If PK is going to command $8 million or more, there is no chance Markov signs for less then $6.5. Realistically, we are looking at $21 for three years.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        He he wants a 5 year deal they should be trading him as soon as they can. The max I would give him would be 3 years at 6.25 per. That would put him at 38 when he is up. The problem with the over 35 club if he retires the cap still counts I believe

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • CJ says:

          You are correct. It will be interesting as he is handling his own negotiation. I’d love to have him for one more year. I know that this is not going to happen though. 3-5 years, which I’m sure is what he wants, could be a huge impediment down the road. We have too many prospects who will need to take that next step within the next 1-3 years.

          This is the reason I suggested exploring the value via a trade on the open market. I love Marky, but we have to think bigger picture.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I agree they should look at it but right now he is still probably our most consistent D man and he logs the most ice on the team. That would be a pretty big hole to fill if he left. In saying that the habs did it quite a bit when he was having the knee issues. Our PP did suffer tremendously though

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  28. jols101 says:

    Leafs/Bruins – who do you guys want to win?

    I always get more enjoyment from a Leafs loss. I hope their implosion continues. It would also be nice to catch the Bruins. I’m torn.

  29. Old Bald Bird says:

    I wonder if the guys will be tired tonight after that big effort against the Hawks? :twisted:

  30. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    The Habs issue is scoring, not defence. Volchenkov doesn’t really make sense. We need people who can put the put in the net…doing fine keeping it out.

  31. DickandDanny says:

    We win if our PP unit starts producing. It is slumping badly. Is there a bigger misnomer in the NHL, at least as far as the Canadiens are concerned, than the word: Power-play. We use a line comprised of the same players who play together regularly. It is not a loaded up, a play all your best “power” players scenario. It is just a line. That bugs me about Therrien. He just consistently throws out line one, then line two for the PP. The line two D pairing is really awful, usually Gorges and Diaz, or Boullion and Diaz. What a waste of two minutes. Can we be a little more creative? If not for Markov and Subban on the “power-play” where would we be? I am guessing last in terms of pp success.

    “A cannonading blast from the wing, by Lafleur”

  32. jols101 says:

    4-1 Habs. 4th goal is an empty netter by DD.

  33. GL says:

    If MT goes with the same line up as he went with against Chicago. It’s a win. If he changes it. Repeat after me (Our Father who)

  34. Bripro says:

    So the Devils have a rookie (Sislow) looking to score his first NHL goal.
    I hate that! Montreal always manages to give up a sad goal to someone who’s never scored before. I hope tonight is different.

    • Mattyleg says:

      YES!!

      I noticed that too.
      Always seems to be the guy who has no goals, or scores his second goal of the season or something.
      Goes to show how good our shutdown guys are, but those tertiary/quaternary scorers are our bane!!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  35. Hobie Hansen says:

    I thought Bouillon would be out! I saw the practice lines yesterday and was like WTF? Now all they have to do is call up Pateryn and remove Diaz.

  36. jols101 says:

    I’d like to hear Timo’s thoughts on DD opting out of practice today.

  37. Maksimir says:

    Anyway – I like that Murray is in tonight… he’ll help box out the large NJ forwards.

    My prediction: Habs win but Ryder still scores one.. well – because that’s what he does against the Habs. Martin F will play well but Habs should be able to get a couple past him with this team in front of him.

  38. HabinBurlington says:

    I like this lineup tonight.

    • shiram says:

      I wish we had more goal scoring in our top 6, having Moen with Pleky makes for a good defensive line, but neither Moen or Gio are sniping goals this season.
      Against the Devils it could work out, we’ll see.

      Hoping for another solid effort from Parros, he’s not the best guy out there, but it’s always fun to see him out there, big mustache and all, especially when he’s playing hockey, loved his Cammy shot from last game.


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