BONUS: Max Pacioretty is a hot streak away from Richard Trophy

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Canadiens captain Max Pacioretty sits near the top of the NHL scoring race. Our panel looks at this chances if winning the Maurice Richard Trophy this season.

And don’t forget to check out last week’s HI/O show for more on the Canadiens:

 

269 Comments

  1. 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

    Nothing like a few good images and a few good team wins to souse HIO in bathtub gin …

    I like Benn, I really do and it was hilarious to see him and radulov mugging away, but to think that he is going to be protected is Brad Staubitz love gone amok. Great stats are noted below; truth is he is just a lovable number 6 defender, a Mike Commodore of the left side.

    Leaving Beaulieu unprotected would be insane – i would sooner expect a trade as part of a package to get a top 6 winger than Nate going for free so we can protect a dime a dozen defender.

    “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

  2. Paz says:

    If I was working with Beaulieu, I’d suggest the following: Nate, you’re 6’2, over 200 lbs, you’re a strong guy, you like to fight, and yet you rarely finish your hits anywhere on the ice.

    You are a great skater. You can move the puck. And you have an interesting flair for joining the rush as a dman.

    Use your interest in fighting, that aggression, to hit, and hit hard.

    Channel your mean streak. Show the league you can play with an edge, that you aren’t concerned to play a tough, in your face, style of hockey.

    I think if you do this, you become a much more valuable player.

    • bwoar says:

      Be the Dirty Champion who was foretold!

    • krob1000 says:

      Nate is just fine the way he is…..as is Petry….as is Markov …as is Benn and as is Weber…it is only the number 6 spot that has been a concern IMO…and that is only because Emelin seems to be struggling this year. I think it is simple….the guys who are the most “Stable” are Weber, Markov and BEnn….they all play a very simple yet cerebral game but none are fleet of foot.

      However the Habs have 3 other dmen who are all really good at different things…but they are the most unpredictable and will occasionally get caught out of position.

      Petry and Beaulieu are very similar but play on opposite sides , both are risk/reward guys but bring more good then bad to the table. They are each elite skaters whose decision making is decent but leaves them vulnerable to the occasional misread as gambling and relying on their skating is what their strength is. Neither is particularly physical although Nate is a good fighter.

      Emelin is an interesting one…his mental game is similar to Nate and Petry but his “gambling” is not normally offensive in nature…he is out to hit and takes the same risks sacrificing position at times for big hits….so he needs a very stable partner. He also makes some odd decisions in neutral zone and when to chase…but his reward can be a devastating hits that cause hesitation for opposition teams.

      I think you need to pair one of the steady guys each with on eof the risky guys….so for the millionth time this IMO is optimal

      Nate-Weber
      Markov-Petry
      Benn-Emelin ( I prefer Emelin on right side)

      Not only would this help to “stablie everyone….it would allow a great top 4 to be on ice for 45 mins a game and Benn could help steady out Emeln or Davidson for how ever many minutes needed and he can play PK too.

    • Timo says:

      I think Beaulieu may not want to fight much after he got clonked by Folignio. I noticed his flair for fighting got greatly reduced after that fight.

    • Rad says:

      The best hitters are those that can skate, thereby using their velocity, along with their mass, to inflict maximum damage. Beaulieu has all of the tools to become a fearsome hitter. The fact that he doesn’t hit is partially the fault of poor coaching, poor player development, as well as Montreal’s “no-contact, fast skating” philosophy over the years. If that philosophy were to become more balanced in its outlook, the Habs would stand a better chance of winning in the playoffs. I am hoping that Claude Julien is going to ensconce a new philosophy in Montreal.

  3. HabinBurlington says:

    So given all the discussion around expansion draft, what draft pick would people be willing to trade to Vegas in order to ensure they take Davidson?

    I would guess that it may take a 4th round pick.

    • marvin20 says:

      maybe Vegas will take a forward instead. Why does every one think it will be defencemen ?

      • veryhabby says:

        Marvin20- if 3 of Benn, emelin, Beau, Davidson are available….seems like any one is easy picking compared to Pleks, Mitchell, Hudon who will be our top 3 frwds available. (I can’t think of who else is available as the 3 frwds we picked up are all UFAs, so is Flynn)

        I can actually see us losing Hudon if the team is building a young team. One of the top AHLers. If Mtl really believes he may be a top 6 answer for our team, I can see them having to make a deal to keep him too. lol

    • bwoar says:

      That’d be fine, though it’s hard to set a market price on a thing like that.

  4. expos94 says:

    Isles getting to 100 pts represents the maximum for any outsiders. Thus, if Habs get 11/20, Isles can’t displace them. Every lost point by the Isles and gained point by the Habs reduces the number.
    e.g Tues. Mtl beats DET = +2,- magic # is 9.
    Wed. Rangers beat Isles -2;- magic number on Thurs is now 7
    Of course, lots of possibilities for movement within the Playoff 8, but total of 11 gained/lost gets MTL to the dance.

    • FormalWare says:

      It’s the scenario (unlikely, to be sure) where both the Habs and the Isles slump terribly that I wanted to highlight. Lots of Isles losses would put Habs well over their magic number relative to the Isles – but other teams could well pass them BOTH, assuming Habs also lost a lot of games.


      “Good Luck With That,” Habs!

  5. HUDSONHAB says:

    Sorry Max. 7 goals behind, 10 games left… umm

  6. Mr. Biter says:

    Does anyone know if Front survived St. Paddy’s day or is looking for a Liver Transplant?

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  7. The_Truth says:

    Weber (because he is Weber) and Petry (NMC) are automatic to be protected.

    Markov ineligible to be taken by Vegas because he is a UFA

    So it comes down to Benn or N8 as the 3rd defenceman to be protected. You really don’t want to lose one of those guys for nothing, so a tough situation. with his youth and potential, you could think N8 could be attractive to Vegas. It also depends which other Dmen are out there from the other 29 teams.

    Montreal can only lose one player in the expansion draft and you would hope it would be Pleks with 6 million due next year.

    The decision should be easier to finalize after the playoffs

    As of the moment, I protect Benn and hope for the best.

  8. chilli says:

    Hopefully LV knows as little of Jordie Benn as every Hab fan as well as the Dallas Stars coach and GM before the trade for Pateryn.

    One has to think there are bigger names than Jordie Benn on D avail for LV at the draft.

    We just have to be quiet about him….
    Or start the rumors that he’s hanging out with the same Russian mob guys the Kostityn’s were hanging with….

  9. Don Birnam says:

    If it comes down to Nate or Benn,protect Benn.
    Solid, consistent Dman at $1million.
    Free’s up cap for those Big contracts coming.
    Also, if you think Nate pouts now,wait till the RFA negotiations.
    Saludos!

    • on2ndthought says:

      I still like Nate’s mean streak, would hate to play against him in 3 years, when he is man strong and a little calmer.

    • ColdComfort says:

      I heard Nathan was a problem in the room.

    • Danno says:

      I think N8 is waking up to the fact that there is competition and nobody has guaranteed job security. Which is a good thing. At the moment, I like Benn who does his job in a workmanlike manner and even said “it was fun” to join in the punchup and help out Radulov. The helmet click they did together in the sin bin while mugging for the cameras said it all.

      Jordie Benn = Budget Brent Burns

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    • savethepuck says:

      Benn is 29 and has 1 year left before he is UFA. N8 is 24 years old and has 3 more years of RFA status. It is a no-brainer from a business standpoint that if you have to choose between the 2, you have to protect N8.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

      • bwoar says:

        What about the win-hockey-games standpoint?

        • ColdComfort says:

          Of course I don’t know but I think Nate B. has hit his ceiling in terms of O. His numbers in the AHL were good not spectacular. He has over 200 NHL games and about 50 pts. Okay but not spectacular. He’s 24 and has a long enough track record in the pros to judge by.

          • The_Rocket_Returns says:

            Courtesy of Puckalytics, defenseman ranked according to the percentage of goals the Habs score when they’re on the ice, followed by their rank in the league in that stat:

            Beaulieu: 56.8% / 38th
            Benn: 45.5% / 152nd (much of that w/ the Stars of course)
            Markov: 58.2% / 30th
            Weber: 58.6% / 28th
            Emelin: 48% / 131st
            Petry: 51.9% / 82nd

            Leaving aside Benn’s Dallas-inflected numbers, I think it’s interesting that Beaulieu is right there with Markov and Weber, while Petry and then Emelin bring up the rear.

            Bottom line: when N8 is on the ice, good things happen. The Habs score much more than they give up. He’s good enough to be a top-four defender. Period. And his power play productivity blows Weber, Markov and Petry out of the water. I really hope Bergevin appreciates him properly.

            … Koivu to Zednik to Kovalev …

      • ColdComfort says:

        All true but Bergevin may be thinking that Benn’s contract gives us the right timing for Juulsen and Sergachev to make the team making Nathan B. expendable now. Will be an interesting choice. Two years left Benn has.

      • Don Birnam says:

        Nate’s contract is up next year. He’s due for a big raise.
        RFA or not.
        Sergachev will fill his roll.
        Benn will be UFA.
        Extend him or let him walk then.
        He is what the Habs lack.

  10. Arnold 56-79 says:

    Not something I researched, but just an impression. I think Julien is a better coach now than earlier in his career because of his exposure to Boston sports culture in his tenure there. I’m not a Red Sox, Patriot or Celtic fan but acknowledge that all those teams had great championship years and leadership while Julien was in Boston. Being part of that local sports mix must have exposed him first hand to some of the dynamics needed to get the best out of players, have them develop chemistry and maintain a winning and confident attitude. I don’t know if he had personal contact with the Belichick, Francona or other prominent coaching and management personnel but he too obviously managed to equal his local peers in 2011 with his own Boston championship.

    Montreal was dubbed ‘city of champions’ by Ted Tevan I believe, in the seventies. Boston sure was that during Julien’s timeframe. I just think a lot of the necessary mindset was learnt and processed, giving him a kind of inner confidence and belief. Of course there is more to winning, especially having the talent. And it’s been some years since his Cup win. But given the right circumstances and luck with his roster I think Julien will be able to get the very best out of his team when most needed.

  11. rhino514 says:

    Earlier in the year I was sad we´d lose one of Emelin or Beaulieu at the draft.
    Now I´m sad that we may lose one of Beaulieu or Benn. Benn because he´s actually good, Beaulieu because he´s not terrible but still develloping.
    But of course we could get lucky and Vegas could take one of a few other guys; Emelin, Davidson, Hudon, Plekanec (doubt it)
    I think in the end they will protect Beaulieu which would free up Benn. He´s really growing on me it would suck to lose him.

  12. veryhabby says:

    Call me crazy…but when it comes to that LV draft why don’t we protect these 3 dmen:

    Weber (cause u gave up PK for him)
    Benn (cause he is one of our best dmen)
    Beau (cause he is young, cheap, good puck moving dman)

    Let LV have expensive Petry, Emelin or Davidson that Edm was afraid to lose. Petry has a pretty high cap, I don’t think LV would be interested. Emelin will have 1 more year left? They may want to take someone who will be around a little longer.

    Just thinking, it may be the best way to keep all our D!

    PAtches, Chuck, Gally, Danault, Bryon, Shaw, Rad (if signed)

    IF this was to be our protection list…bet ya LV goes with one of the best AHL players Hudon, off our list, or Davidson if its true they had eyes on him.

    • knob says:

      I think that they have the option to protect 4 d-men but in that scenario, they would lose protection of two (maybe?) forwards.

      in all thy sons command

    • The_Rocket_Returns says:

      Good idea.

      Would be a bummer to lose Petry, but he can be replaced (maybe Juulsen?) There’s no way Vegas would take Markov, and they’d be welcome to take Emelin or Davidson.

      Don’t understand the Davidson love around here. We’ve all watched him for a few games now. His gap control stinks. There’s a reason a defensively-challenged Oilers team actually figured a tiny, soft and ineffective fourth-line center brought more to the table than him.

      … Koivu to Zednik to Kovalev …

    • Welks says:

      Petry has a No Movement Clause and therefore is automatically protected by draft rules. They do not have an option not to protect him.

    • habsr4ever says:

      Petry has to be protected – he has a NTC.

  13. ColdComfort says:

    @ Danno. I could have done without being reminded of that movie Ben. I think I saw it at the theatre on Dorval Ave. when it was released. I was smoking stuff back then but if memory serves:

    Michael Jackson sings a love song to a rat. We then watch a movie where hordes of rats kill B-rated actors trapped on an island. Good times.

  14. Don Birnam says:

    Hola Amigos!
    Survived another St.Paddys in Montreal
    Good see my friend Punkster again.
    CJ has got the Boys going again.
    It’s only going to get better.
    Keep The Faith.
    Saludos.

  15. knob says:

    Imagine that Byron only signed a one year deal!? What does a 20 goal scorer get these days? Maybe 3-4 mil per year? I wondered why MB signed him to a three year deal but glad he did now.

    Would anyone feel good (besides Byron) with him getting a 5 year deal worth 17mil?

    in all thy sons command

    • CHerry Picker says:

      I still cant believe we have him on that cheap contract for two more years .Same for Patches . I think we are financially in good shape Providing the younger core group can continue to grow and Price can be signed to a decent deal. TP and AE are the only brutal contracts we have . TP will expire in a year and AE could be moved .

  16. WindsorHab-10 says:

    I’ve heard fans and experts often say: “where would the Habs be without Radulov”? Radulov has been a gem no questions. The same can be said about Paul Byron whose 20 goals have been meaningful & timely. To think that #41 was picked up on waivers, wow.

    • bwoar says:

      Some credit is due to Bergevin & scouts, there. Great pickup and a great story.

      • GrimJim says:

        I live in Calgary and as that training camp ended there was a lot of talk about whether to keep Byron or Brandon Bollig as both were waiver-eligible. The way the reporters characterized it, Bollig was kept on the Flames solely because he was physically bigger and played a grinding game.

    • on2ndthought says:

      And then given a three year extension midway through his first year.

      Pretty good GMing from the bottom of a bin.

  17. @AndyF http://imgur.com/a/HdhNm

    It is impossible to play hockey with the way you have that drawing. No skater on the planet has the ability to have a foot going into the zone ahead of the body and at the same time maintain control of skating or anything else. You would be leaning back which defeats the purpose of skating forward. In fact it would look HIOlarious. Try it the next time you are at the rink, or maybe I’ll make a video of that scenario for my next show 🙂

    Offside is offside, no grey areas to me.

    Shane Oliver
    Sholi2000.com
    @sholi2000
    23 Wins to Tie Saint Patrick
    Shane&Son Dec 2016

    • Ozmodiar says:

      This was exactly my thought.
      – how would a skater even pull that off?

    • AndyF says:

      @sholi2000.com :

      You knwo that if you wait long enough in hockey, anything will happen. Picture a player wiping out to stay on-side. Picture Radulov after a particularly long draw of his smelling salts. 🙂

      That said, after a bit of consideration I will concede that the current rule is not as bad as I thought it was initially. In fact, the Toews goal got me to change my thinking. Here goes…

      Just for simplicity’s sake, the same rule should apply for deciding whether a player is on-side and whether a player has properly “tagged-up”, as in the Toews goal. The criterion for tagging up has you “just having to touch” the other side of the blue line. And so the criterion for being off-side is when you “just touch” the other side of the line. That’s a nice symmetric solution and the reason why I changed my mind on the matter.

      Thanks for having the patience to watch me figure out what you already knew. 🙂 Cheers!

  18. bwoar says:

    Hey Burly,

    Meant to mention it yesterday but got distracted – my boy Morrissey saved the day! I was downtown when the crowd let out of the MTS Centre, what a zoo. If only there’d been some good goaltending all year.

    Jacob Trouba’s had a good year for himself too. Buff’s been Buff, the young forwards are growing.. lots to like for next year if that collective S% can improve.

    • ColdComfort says:

      The fortunes of a team rise and fall largely on goaltending. Only in Montreal, shirley. Maybe Calgary too.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Wonder how the Trouba situation plays out when Myers comes back? Won’t that present the challenge of Buff and Myers on the right side, possibly ahead of him?

      Chevy needs to look hard at his goaltending, we saw the growing pains for Price when he was young in the league.

      Lots of hope and promise, but that GM needs to deliver soon, have to think the patience of fans is weighing thin.

      Happy for the city to have the team back, really hoped they’d get some playoff games this season.

      • bwoar says:

        I think Trouba will ultimately be traded, maybe for a solid journeyman D, a solid insurance goalie and a pick/prospect. Chevy absolutely has to solve this last problem because he has the horses, front & back, to make the playoffs.

        Hellebuyck will improve, but he needs a Huet in there for another year maybe.

  19. Caesar says:

    I think its time to rest Leks Weber Marky etc and rotate them
    In and out of the lime up until
    Playoffs. Rest will do them good and others will get s chance to dhow CJ what he has for playoff depth

    • habsr4ever says:

      Marky had 6 weeks off with his injury.
      Weber could use a few off since he played in the world cup too.
      But I suspect we won’t rest them until we clinch first.

  20. Caesar says:

    CC the answer to the meaning of life is 42

  21. bwoar says:

    @ DDO

    If you played Benn and Petry, are you gonna pair Emelin and Beaulieu? OR Davidson?

    When you say “A lot of 3rd pairing Dmen look good playing against 3rd and 4th lines”, you realize that applies to Beaulieu as well? He’s strictly a #5-6 luxury puck-mover at this point, until he shows something more to his game.

    I agree with you on the coaching. And there is reason to think this might help Nate, but there’s just as much evidence to suggest that it won’t matter.

    Given the numbers he’s put up this year – and I don’t discount them – he’s probably earned 2.5-3M a year. I’m not in a rush to give that to a kid with a questionable attitude when I can pay a vet way less who brings a more dependable, if less flashy game.

    Again, it’s the way people understand defense that creates this weird thinking… A guy who skates and puts up points is not automagically better than a guy who can actually reliably defend his own zone and make a good first pass. I see this in pretty much everyone who’s all over Weber & can’t imagine why PK would ever, ever be traded. I don’t think it’s reasonable to all-in on Beaulieu unless you think Jeff Petry can gust up to a top-2 defender as needed. They play the exact same game.

    • ColdComfort says:

      Your last paragraph is very insightful esp given your species. I would add that the watch on TV fan is in a difficult position to judge.

    • knob says:

      Beaulieu is still young enough that he can mature into a better decision maker. He has a good skill set.

      FWIW, Petry might be the worst defender in the d-zone.

      Unfortunately, I think that Nate is the guy they lose to LV.

      in all thy sons command

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      If Benn can translate his play to a 2nd pairing with Petry where they would play 22 min/game, it wouldn’t matter as much who is on the 3rd pairing because they will be playing less than 15 min. I would put N8 on the left and Emelin on the right (since he likes to skate over there for no reason anyway) to start. I don’t see why they don’t try a Benn-Petry experiment. Emelin is not trust-worthy IMO for big 2nd pairing minutes. Also, I think Benn mght be getting over-evaluated here because he is playing a spot where the players before him were under-performing (Pateryn, Nesterov, Redmond, etc.).

      As for N8, just look at his numbers. They have increased every year and he is only 2 points behind Petry. This was his first year to play significant top-2 and top-4 minutes (thanks MT). I would not give up on him unless we can deal him for a young forward.

      Lastly, if you put N8 and Benn on the open market, who gets you a better return? Unless I am really mistaken, I think it is N8 hands down. He has clear upside and they are not even close offensively. If Benn played large 2nd pairing minutes well, his market value would change but right now, he is still just a veteran third pairing Dman with max 20pt output.

      • bwoar says:

        Well, we agree that Emelin is too dangerous for 2nd pair minutes.

        No danger of over-evaluating Benn… I live next to a Stars fan and a number of analysts have also weighed in that he was underused in Dallas. But look at his game – he could easily be on our second pair given his consistent play.

        It may be too soon to give up on Beaulieu but that isn’t the point I’m arguing – I think Benn is more useful right now, and I want to win a Stanley Cup right now. Hoping that N8 gets his game into a consistently intelligent shape under new coaching doesn’t speak to that.

        I can’t comment on your “open market” comparison as it’s the least useful, most wildly varying method of comparing two players. Really depends on what a team needs, doesn’t it? Pateryn for Benn has stabalized the D in a way that adding another Beaulieu wouldn’t have done.

  22. Walmyr says:

    Hey Vegas, Petry is all yours!

    We gonna keep Mr. Weber, (the better) Benn and N8…

    Cheers!

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Petry NMC so can’t be placed on list. Anyway, this is all moot as I think they will take Pleks and deal him at next year’s trade deadline.

      • Walmyr says:

        Yeah DDO, just my (dream) wish…

        I keep hearing/reading about LV and Plekanec. I just can’t see this…yet…

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          The thing is LV’s options are endless. One thing for sure is that they have to spend up to the floor. There are many ways to do this. Unless Mtl exposes a decent prospect, Pleks is a decent way to spend that money for one season and get a pick back at the deadline. Heck they may even be able to get a pick or prospect from MB to take Pleks.

          • eddie 56 says:

            Wait who’s LV?

          • GrimJim says:

            On Calgary radio this morning one of the announcers was saying that he had heard a LV scout musing about LV taking 6 or 7 goalies and then anyone wanting a solid backup would have to give up prospects and picks.

      • ColdComfort says:

        Pleks has had a very good career for us. He still contributes most nights. But I would give LV my last slice of bacon to pick him.

      • FormalWare says:

        They will only take Pleks if we don’t dangle Nate in front of them. (Some are suggesting we might not protect Nate. Lunacy, say I!)


        “Good Luck With That,” Habs!

    • bwoar says:

      It is mandatory that we protect Petry.

  23. ebk says:

    it was Matt Duchene, who was 4 to 5 feet offside that scored a goal that lead to the offside video challenge.

  24. Ingy27 says:

    has McCaren been sent to the minors and DLR called up? where do we find that stuff?

  25. expos94 says:

    Today our magic # to clinch = 11 pts; what a difference a year makes; what a bigger difference a coach makes!

    • twilighthours says:

      Where you getting that info?

      • expos94 says:

        MTL has 90 pts
        Closest non-playoff team (NYI) has 78 points with 11 games (22 pts available) 78 + 22 = 100
        If MTL gets 11 points that’s 101 points – Isles can’t catch them
        So any combination of MTL points gained and Isles points lost equal to 11 will clinch a spot for MTL

        • twilighthours says:

          Word up. Now let’s talk matchups. Who do you want?

        • FormalWare says:

          To nitpick (as is my wont): That will clinch a MTL finish ahead of NYI. It won’t necessarily clinch a playoff spot for MTL. Would have to consider any/all other teams’ chances of catching MTL, as well. (Not saying there are any – but you’re not confirming there aren’t any.)


          “Good Luck With That,” Habs!

          • expos94 says:

            Isles getting to 100 pts represents the maximum for any outsiders. Thus, if Habs get 11/20, Isles can’t displace them. Every lost point by the Isles and gained point by the Habs reduces the number.
            e.g Tues. Mtl beats DET = +2,- magic # is 9.
            Wed. Rangers beat Isles -2;- magic number on Thurs is now 7
            Of course, lots of possibilities for movement within the Playoff 8, but total of 11 gained/lost gets MTL to the dance.

  26. Danno says:

    Since Julien, Habs have won 10 of 14 games and are playing .714 hockey.

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    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      MT>CJ

      • ColdComfort says:

        MT=CJ. More or less.

        Edit: I mean both are good.

        • ebk says:

          i think Julien is a better coach and Therrien’s shelf-life had run out, so the change was needed and a good one. Believe MB gave Therrien a pass for last season’s debacle but at the first sign of trouble he’d be gone. Habs solid till Feb 1st, hit a tailspin and MB canned Therrien. He was lucky a coach of Julien’s caliber was available.

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          Just look at the difference in the PK. It is not even close how much better it is now.

          • ColdComfort says:

            Maybe that’s Muller. Or how ’bout the players? The effect of coaching is difficult/impossible to measure. Maybe over someone’s career. Short time periods no.

      • Danno says:

        Are you saying MT is greater than CJ?

        On >
        Generally, the symbol is used to show inequality between two numbers or expressions. In mathematics, if there are 2 numbers being looked at as an inequality, the greater-than symbol usually goes in between the two and symbolizes that the first number is greater than the second number (For example: 4 > 2, or 102 > 100).

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  27. johnnylarue says:

    Splitting hairs over off-side zone entries = the most exciting play in hockey. It’s the reason so many fans are willing to pay a premium to sit near the blue line.

    “Was Player X’s skate touching the ice?” has replaced “what is the meaning of life?” as the most salient philosophical question of our time.

    Never mind five minutes–I think games should be stopped indefinitely when an especially juicy close call happens at the blue line. The players involved should be taken aside and questioned, their motives established. And if it’s determined that Player X intentionally crossed the blue line ahead of the puck carrier in order to gain an unfair advantage on the defending team, that player should be expelled from the game, perhaps even fined. The National Hockey League is no place for cheaters!

    I also think there should be an on-ice speed limit, and that passing the puck forward should be disallowed. And, ideally, players should only be allowed to skate in one direction.

  28. habsr4ever says:

    Galchenyuk is losing MILLIONS if he doesn’t pick things up and start to play centre.
    He is going to get north of $6 M per…I would say high 6’s if he is a centre times 6 years.
    But if he continues to play this way up the middle – he is looking at mid $5’s to high $5’s times 4-5 years.
    HE is going to want to prove he is worth waiting for to be playing centre on this team so he will take a shorter term contract to cash in on his next contract.
    Just my belief.
    Bottom line Chucky – pick it up…..two big games this weekend and you were underwhelming to say the least.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Who says Chucky has to sign a deal this summer? He is only two years from UFA. All he has to do is just focus and play and he will get an 8 year deal with an NMC in a place of his choosing in 2 years. All he gets by signing is that he makes it easier for MB to deal him.

  29. habsr4ever says:

    There are reasons why every line Dandy has been on this season score goals. We can say Chucky this and Chucky that – but Dandy has earned the #1 centre role this season. Chucky has the skill and talent to be there but seriously. How much longer do we wait? I agree leave Chucky at centre to see what we got with him. Is he a centre or is he a winger. But we need Dandy with Pacman for SURE and perhaps put Rads with Chucky. I am totally ok with spreading it around.
    Just like Byron – 20 goals and people still say he isn’t a top six. Well on this team he IS. His numbers don’t lie.
    Just my two cents.

    • FormalWare says:

      RE: “Dandy”: I get what you’re trying to do, there – and it’s clever – but it won’t fly.

      His name is Danault – not Dandenault.


      “Good Luck With That,” Habs!

      • habsinthegap says:

        Re “Dandy” … True, but no fun. There’s also no “chuck” in “Galchenyuk”, so using that logic we should call him “Yukky”.

    • Loop_G says:

      Byron is an extremely valuable player on any team, most teams he is a top 6. Can you imagine where this team would be without him this year? It’s not just the number of goals, but when he has scored them, his defense, pk skills etc. Must be one of the all time great waiver wire finds.

      Hoping for his sake he keeps this up for two more years so he can get paid.

    • New says:

      I think Danault is a great player. Danault, as of today, gets 1.88 points for every 60 minutes played for example. Galchenyuk gets 2.91. Both players have done this on 1st or 3rd lines.

      I think Danault adjusts to other players faster than Galchenyuk. I think Galchenyuk operates on instinct more than Danault.

      I suspect the reason Galchenyuk is on the so-called first line is the Habs remember what happened last season when they stopped jerking him around between lines and positions and left him alone for a month.

      The biggest difference between the two players is Danault can disappear, take dumb penalties, or make mistakes and no one notices.

  30. twilighthours says:

    I’m only posting because I feel I have to, not because there’s anything of value that I have to offer.

    It felt great to whip Ottawa last night. Sends a message to those punks that they’ve still got a lot of work to do to be as good as we are.

    The Danault and Plex lines were awesome. Shaw was a beast. All 6 D did exactly what they needed to do.

    Galchenyuk makes my beer taste bad. What is it going to take for the guy to get involved in the game? The worst part is he’s developed this Gomez thing where he skates it 8 feet across the blue line and then stops up, looking for a pass. That sh!t ain’t gonna fly, son. Get it in deep and get involved.

    He could be so great.

  31. HabinBurlington says:

    In light of the offside discussions, did Toews get away with an offside goal last night?

    http://kuklaskorner.com/hockey/comments/video-you-make-the-call-on-the-jonathan-toews-goal

    • twilighthours says:

      I hope he did.

      I hope he was an inch offside and still scored and it counted, because it doesn’t actually matter if a player is an inch offside.

      Now I’ll click the link.

      • twilighthours says:

        Video won’t play for me.

        Ah, whatever. Offside reviews suck.

        Just get rid of the blueline, already.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Looked to me like Toews was about 2 feet (maybe less) from the blueline and never actually cleared the zone before the puck carrier entered the zone.

          To me this one should have been called, as it is the spirit of the call. Players have to clear the zone before another teammate enters it with the puck.

          I do think your point is valid, the spirit of the challenge was to prevent the egregious calls, not all the finite nitpicking. Pandoras box is open though now, not sure how it gets closed at this point.

          • twilighthours says:

            I’m OK with living with the very rare time that the linsemen truly blow it, like in the case where someone is 2-3 feet offside.

            They get those ones right 99.9% of the time.

  32. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    If the expansion draft would take place today, I would still protect N8 over Benn. I am willing to give N8 the MT/JJD benefit of the doubt. N8 has the talent to play top-4 maybe even top-2. You don’t expose top prospects for third pairing Dmen. If they put Benn next to Petry and he plays strong for 22 min/game in the playoffs, I would change my mind.

    • ColdComfort says:

      Benn has the better off ice personality.

    • bwoar says:

      “N8 has the talent to play top-4 maybe even top-2. You don’t expose top prospects for third pairing Dmen.”

      Are you kidding? Beaulieu has all the talent and none of the brains. And the brains aren’t coming anytime soon. Jordie Benn is making him look good out there, and is right now twice the defenseman NB is. I’d rather stick with the better player than hang my hat on potential.

      Benn and Perty are both RD, so I don’t expect you change your mind, but, at some point there’s a limit to the benefit of the doubt. We’re not, I’d say, beyond the proverbial Shadow Of A Doubt, but evidence is mounting pretty high that Nate’ ceiling is in Petry territory.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Benn is a LH-Dman. Why can’t he play with Petry? A lot of 3rd pairing Dmen look good playing against 3rd and 4th lines. JJD is a terrible D coach and MT is a terrible coach for young players. If MB can get N8 signed to a cap friendly deal, I would give him another shot with better coaches. Third pairing Dmen are easy to replace.

  33. Sir Lance Compte says:

    By leaving the first line alone with only 10 games left to go until the playoffs I’m afraid that they will not improve and be even worse in the playoffs with close checking. Time to act is now in my opinion however I respect the opposite opinion of others here, good points made.

    • krob1000 says:

      All you need to do is swap Patch any Byron….too many chefs on that top line IMO…BUT…it does draw every teams top defenders every time by doing this way…I still believe optimal usage would be splitting Patch/Rad

      Patch-Pleks-Gally
      Byron-Chucky-Rad
      LEhk-Danault-Shaw

  34. knob says:

    What a difference as a result of the coaching change. This team is completely different under CJ. They are playing with confidence. I look at CJ and see a guy with swagger; I look at MT and see a guy that put personal agenda before the team.

    MB gets some credit too, he moved a couple of small quick guys (playing in the bottom 6) and brought in some grit and heavies to replace them! King, Ott or Martensen will never score 20 goals or even be good enough to play in the top six but having guys like Andrighetto (who I did like), DD and Carr in the bottom six doesn’t help the team win.

    Jordie Benn has been a great addition for the club too. Really happy to see N8 score last night. He deserves to stay in the line-up. Wonder how CJ will manage the line-up once Flynn and Nesterov are healthy again?

    in all thy sons command

    • Habituated says:

      Flynn and Nsterov would look good in St. John’s, even if (when) the Ice Caps don’t make the playoffs.

      Flynn is what he is, and the Habs have plenty of other options.
      Nesterov has looked horrible pretty much every time he’s played. Putting him in the lineup would be a detriment.

  35. BC (Because of the Cats) says:

    What a satisfying weekend. Two very solid performances and a bit more breathing room between us and the Senators. I did not expect such a great result against a team that has pushed us around the last few years.

    The team looks good; much better in our own zone than under Therrien, a faster, more efficient transition game, and we’re playing with a lot of confidence. Usually the last stretch of the season, from the deadline on, is the toughest for us. Price struggles, we lose to the top teams, and we end up barely playing .500 hockey. Not this year. The February collapse is far behind us, and we look to be coming together and gaining momentum at exactly the right time.

    Julien seems to be very good at dealing with the players and working out problems. Both Emelin and Beaulieu, who had been plagued by inconsistency and subject to defensive blunders recently, had good games last night. Julien will know how to build on this, how to get the players performing well without undermining their confidence by resorting to lengthy benchings.

    The one remaining problem is the first line and what to do with Galchenyuk. His deficiencies as a centre — poor on faceoffs, not great in his own end, not much of a playmaker — are making the top line as currently constructed look quite ineffective. I wonder Julien doesn’t try switching Galchenyuk and Plekanec, or perhaps putting together a top line of Plekanec, Pacioretty, and Gallagher, with the second line being Galchenyuk, Radulov, and Byron. I believe Byron has played center, so he could take some of the faceoffs for that line. This might at least be worth trying. We still have ten games to sort things out, but we need the top line to be more effective than it’s been in the last few games.

    “We gotta lotta dep.”

  36. bwoar says:

    A few things, coming out of the ALN thread:

    – Petry was credited for 8 hits vs. the Sens, from what I saw. Amazing.

    – All three of Emelin, Petry and Beaulieu need a steady, reliable partner to make up for gaffes. I’m hoping CJ can help Emelin become that (still!) but Emelin-Petry worries me as much as Beaulieu-Petry did.

    – Jordie Benn is strong enough to play 2nd paring minutes, but Beaulieu… y’know summa you guys sure are easy to please when you want to be.

    – Shea Weber is a rock….. y’know summa you guys are impossible to please because you understand defense as something flashy.

    – I don’t mind if the first line is checked into oblivion, if lines 2-3 are scoring.

    *

    Coach K made great observations about Galchenyuk:

    “I for one, would start with getting him to move his feet and position his big frame between the puck carrier and his net when he’s trying to check somebody instead of whacking away with his stick like Plekanec taught him. It would put him in a better defensive position and prevent the temptation to take a stick foul type of penalty.

    I’d also be stressing that when attacking/carrying the puck inside the other team’s blueline, that he needs to stop trying to do everything with his hands. The instruction needs to be: “Alex, either move the puck or move your feet. Standing still and stick handling is not an option!” This will prent turnovers and make him even more dangerous because he will be less predictable.”

    That last part, Pacioretty taught him. It’s a Max Pac special to get to the dot with the puck and then come to a stop and look for an option is there’s a man between him and the net. Just once in a while I’d like to see MP attempt to outmuscle that guy, though I know that’s not his game. He’s not a good passer, but since AG27 is having trouble finding his wingers once he’s gained the zone, Pacioretty has been forced to carry the puck in if he wants it – then he has to get rid of it – it’s maddening.

    Just a little bit more foot-moving would make all the difference on line 1 right now. But the goals will come.

  37. Sir Lance Compte says:

    There is a centre in St. JOHN’S with pretty good stats?

  38. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Maybe we should wait until the season is over before deciding which Dmen to protect? Anyway, thanks to the ignorant GMs, we will never know who was protected unless the player gets picked or gets dealt before the draft. I was looking forward to getting into a LV draft pool but thanks to NHL for ruining a good event for fans to follow.

  39. habsr4ever says:

    Size matters. Grit matters. Heart and character matters.
    Carey Price matters.
    Andrew Shaw matters – how about his weekend? He was awesome.
    Shea Weber matters. Another fairly quiet effective plus 2 and 25 minutes of ice time last night along with an assist. Simply an awesome Dman and our number one guy.
    Daneault was awesome yet again.
    Byron – well what can anybody say. 20 goal season and counting.
    Plekanec is playing his best hockey of the season right now.
    Gallagher – playing his best hockey of the season right now.
    The chips were down this weekend and boy did some players ever elevate their game.
    King is very effective on that 4th line. He isn’t producing points but watch how he gets pucks in deep and kills penalties and gets pucks out along the wall in our own end. Terrific along the wall. I do expect him to bring some O in the playoffs like he did with the Kings. HE scored big goals for them over the years.
    Benn -what else is there to say. I saw him vs the Flames live and he was BRUTAL. He played physical but looked lost out there. That has been his only weak game since being in a CH uniform. What a pick up by Bergy.

    • marvin20 says:

      This team is built for the playoffs; They are not going to a tough team to play against or beat in a 7 game series.

    • CalgaryHab says:

      In fairness to Benn the whole team was awful. They mentioned some sickness but didn’t want to call it an excuse but you could tell they were WAY off. As much as I hated paying good money to watch that disaster I have to give them a pass – sh!t happens, too many ill guys…

  40. Sir Lance Compte says:

    Our first line is bad right now. They can’t get out of each other’s way. But how do you tweak it without upsetting the other ones? Danault is logical choice but he is doing well where he is. Same with Pleks. Chucky seems to do no better when he is on second line. My conclusion is Chucky is the problem at centre. This is not a popular comment on this site but I think that is the reality.

  41. B says:

    Only 5 Dmen have more first assists than Markov, all 5 have played 15 or more games than Markov. If you extrapolate for those missing games, only Headman has more. If you go by first assists per 60 minutes played, then Markov leads alone at 0.99

    FWIW, Markov has more points per 60 minutes played than Subban.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  42. Lafrich says:

    I had ZERO issue with the disallowed goal last night

    In fact, I was quite happy how that panned out, logistically anyway… Generally speaking, refs call the play offside when it is close WAAAAYYY too often. I cannot tell you how many times a play is blown dead, only to rewind, and freeze frame the pic to see that it was actually on side.

    Bottom line, is that I would rather they leave the super close calls alone (like last night), then if it is a goal, let it be reviewed.

    And to all you people complaining about the actual call: IT WAS OFFSIDE!

    • AndyF says:

      Yes, it was off-side — no one here has said it wasn’t. I am not debating the call. I am debating the wording of the rule, which leads to some edge cases that are very difficult.

      Have a look at my graphic below and tell me what your call would be if most of your body was on-side but you slightly lifted your back foot. You could have 90% of your body on-side and still be called off-side. If you like that rule, then we’re good.

      i would prefer that the rule be defined in terms of the leading plane of the blue line, personally. Especially now that we have review cameras, that would be easier to rule on.

      • Lafrich says:

        D’apres moi, the off-side rule in hockey is one of the clearest rules, and having played the game for 40 years, the rule is clear as day to me. In the graphic you show, the play is off-side because his front foot is off side, and no other part of his other skate (or body) is touching the ice, and I am perfectly ok with it.

        I believe that if the rule is changed to be the plane of the body, like in football, then you will start having more difficulty assessing.

        • bwoar says:

          Exactly! This isn’t very hard, offsides have been the same since as far as I remember.

        • ebk says:

          think it will be a much easier call for linesman if they do change it.

        • AndyF says:

          We’re good.

          I think the plane is easier, especially with a camera. In football, for example, it’s exactly the opposite of what you’re saying: the hardest part of ruling on catch completion is determining whether one or both feet were touching the ground.

          But I respect your experience and preference for the current rule.

    • ebk says:

      clearly offside upon video review. But it’s a stupid rule and will be changed before next season. I’m hoping they rewrite the rule as was suggested at the recent GM meetings and next year, that goal would not have been offside.

    • twilighthours says:

      Lafrich I’m going to keep arguing this one.

      Review for offsides is insane.

      The sole purpose of the blue line is to prevent cherry-picking, to prevent an attacker from gaining an unfair advantage when rushing the goal.

      The spirit of the rule is to prevent those things, and to force 5 players to play where the puck is.

      Nitpicking an offside call over an inch – literally, an inch – is insane. There’s no way that the puck sliding forward an inch earlier, or Byron leaving his skate on the ice for a 10th of a second longer, changes that play at all. It has NO impact on the game.

      If it’s too close for the linesman to call it offside, then it’s not offside.

      All we’re doing is slowing down a game and preventing goals. I like to watch goals. Don’t you?

      And why review for offside and not for icing? Why be so black and white on offside but not for so many other rules?

      I think that allowing for a review of offside is the worst thing the NHL has done in many years, and that’s saying something.

      I hate it. It needs to go.

      • BC (Because of the Cats) says:

        Well said. I completely agree. The offside challenge runs counter to the spirit of the game. And when you think of it, there must be a dozen times during the course of a game that the play is offside by a fraction of an inch, but no one notices or challenges it because a goal is not scored.

        “We gotta lotta dep.”

        • FormalWare says:

          Objection, Your Honour!

          The times a play is offside, not called, and no goal is scored are not the point. A thousand such instances are outweighed by a single, egregious instance of a CLEARLY offside goal being allowed to count – as occurred in a playoff series a couple of seasons ago, in double overtime. (You’re probably familiar with the case to which I allude.)

          Some mechanism has to be in place to ensure that never happens again. If not a coach’s challenge – then what would you propose?


          “Good Luck With That,” Habs!

          • twilighthours says:

            I was fine with that goal. It being a tiny bit offside had no bearing on the goal being scored. Tampa received no advantage from it. Montreal just needed to be better.

            Besides, the linesmen get he obvious ones correct, like, pretty much always dude.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            There was a goal a year or two back, player was offside by about 4-5 feet and call was missed. It was the lightning rod for the controversy of missed offsides and no way to correct. I think it was a Colorado player if I recall.

          • FormalWare says:

            I’m not satisfied with “pretty much always”. Not in the playoffs – and especially not in sudden-death OT.


            “Good Luck With That,” Habs!

          • twilighthours says:

            We’re arguing different positions. You think adherence to this rule is of utmost importance.

            I’d do away with the rule (the blue line) altogether. In the absence of that, I’d allow it to be called in the spirit of which it was intended: no cherry picking

      • AndyF says:

        I don’t agree that +/- 1″ is not important. I want the rule to be clear and its enforcement to be as clear as possible.

        But I appreciate what you’re saying and I’m loving that this topic is being discussed.

        • twilighthours says:

          Should we start reviewing for icings then?

          How about this? Every time a goal is scored, we allow a review of the entire play that led to the goal, and look for any infraction that violates any portion of any literal rule.

          • FormalWare says:

            Football does this. Every apparent touchdown is automatically reviewed.


            “Good Luck With That,” Habs!

          • twilighthours says:

            You want that, Form?

            Hockey is slow enough now.

          • FormalWare says:

            Yeah, I could actually support that – in the playoffs, at least. It would get very efficient, as it has in football, Cursory glance at the tape for possible issues; if none, good goal, and drop the puck within 30-40 seconds. If something needs closer scrutiny, it might take another minute – but that’s OK, as the goal may legitimately need to be scrubbed.


            “Good Luck With That,” Habs!

      • habsinthegap says:

        Completely agree. If it’s so close we need to sit through a video review then it’s inconsequential and not worth the nit-picking.

  43. wegot24 says:

    Just delay the playback and sync with 690. Takes a sec to do but so worth the time. No more Cole. Having Nylan’s colour last night was so great!

  44. Mavid says:

    All the talk on the radio has been that the last handful of games for the Habs should be easy, and for the Sens difficult, I don’t buy into this at all. There are no easy games, you can win or lose to anyone, it all depends on the style of play of each team. Could be they are gearing up for an excuse if the Sens suddenly start playing poorly and possibly miss the playoffs..wouldn’t that be something..

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    • sakuknows says:

      Would rather have the Sens schedule, meaningful games down the stretch going into the playoffs….

    • BC (Because of the Cats) says:

      I agree there are no easy games. Games against non-playoff teams are very dangerous and also difficult to get up for. I can all too easily see the Habs coming out flat and lifeless against teams like Detroit, Carolina, Dallas, and Buffalo. Hope it won’t happen, but those are the types of games we often lose.

      As for the Senators, I’d love to see them miss the playoffs, but I doubt it’ll happen. I just hope they have a struggle to get there and lose in the first round, so we don’t have to face them.

      “We gotta lotta dep.”

    • on2ndthought says:

      Agree, Mary. TB especially will be desperate, even FLA must be starting to feel like they have to win out.

      I wouldn’t want to play LA right now, as they must be getting similarly desperate.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I think Florida already knows they are out of it. Below are some comments from the Sun Sentinel link I have provided.

        For the first time this season, Rowe and his players were talking about playing for pride as they remain six points behind idle Toronto for the final wild-card playoff berth with 11 games remaining. They’d also have to leap over the New York Islanders and Tampa Bay.

        “[Playing for pride is] the mentality we’re going to have to have the rest of the way,” Rowe added. “We’re not mathematically eliminated, but we’re in a hole for sure.”

        http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/florida-panthers/fl-sp-florida-panthers-penguins-20170319-story.html

  45. habsr4ever says:

    Minny Wild are tanking right now. Just like the Habs did when they went thru that gruelling stretch that all teams go thru. Funny how people were ripping Price for having a bad stretch and now Dubnyk is doing the exact same thing. I am always baffled as to why coaches continue to put out their number one and exhaust them so much. I get your number one should play 62 games per season (there abouts) but when they are struggling and its clearly due to fatigue – why don’t they put in their back up MORE. Any how just think its funny how much grief Price got on here for his “not up to par” stretch. Take a look at the sked and tell me it wasn’t related to too many games in not enough days.

  46. ColdComfort says:

    The GM’s discussed the idea of changing the offside rule recently and decided not to. Or at least not now. Players know the trailing foot has to be on the ice so that was the right call last night.

    I’m not sure about this. But the players know the rule, and risk a goal being called back, so there’s that for now.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      The replay of the offside last night could serve as a teaching tool for young kids working on their skating technique.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        It also should serve as an incentive to the owners of a goal starved league to reconsider the use of replays for offsides.

        • Ozmodiar says:

          I suppose they’d have to look at how enforceable it would be – to determine if a player’s skate is over the blue line as opposed to it being on the line. Would that be a tougher call*? If so, how many extra goals would we see? A handful? Is that worth a rule change? I’m not so sure.

          * like a football “breaking the plane” of the goal line.

  47. AndyF says:

    To sholi2000.com:

    The issue with the new decision to allow camera review of offsides that lead to goals is that it exposes flaws in the current offside rule.

    Here’s an offside example that is never, ever enforced:
    http://imgur.com/a/HdhNm

    Here’s another one that is never applied when a player enters the zone backwards, but completely in control of the puck:

    ” (NOTE) A player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the line ahead of the puck shall not be considered “off-side.”

    Ref: http://www.nhlofficials.com/rule77.asp

    • ColdComfort says:

      Didn’t see your post Andy as I was writing mine. Most off-side calls of course are never reviewed. There was some talk that the linesmen were not blowing the whistle on close plays knowing that if a goal resulted the cameras would get it right.

      That has to be a difficult call for the human eye. Does the foot on the ice rule make the call easier? I’d like to hear what the linesmen say before deciding.

      • AndyF says:

        Right, and the act of reviewing has made it easier to spot flaws in the rule itself.

        Like skating the puck in backwards. Have you ever seen that called on-side? I’ve been watching for 50 years and I’ve never ever seen it.

        Sooner or later someone will skate the puck in backwards and we’ll get it on camera. The League must really love putting refs at risk of looking stupid because they seem to like to word rules in the vaguest possible language.

  48. CalgaryHab says:

    I always thought Pateryn got a bit of raw deal with the habs and was sad to see him go, but extremly pleased with Jordie Benn in return thus far – fitting in very nicely with a very good contract. I read Dallas thought they might lose him in the expansion draft and that made him expendable, I’d be curious if we plan on protecting him or risk losing him too…

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I wonder if MB doesn’t make a trade with Vegas to ensure that Benn not be chosen. I think a bunch of teams are going to be trying to make side deals like this with GM McPhee.

    • habsr4ever says:

      The 3 that will be protected are Weber, Petry, and Benn any how.
      Emelin and N8 and Davidson will be exposed.
      Pretty sure they’ll take Davidson.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        Davidson over Beaulieu?

        —–

        • habsr4ever says:

          I am thinking Davidson. Oilers said all along they felt he was the guy they were going to lose and for good reason. So they dealt him away for DD to at least get something for a player they were going to lose any how.
          N8 – if they take him – ce la vi.
          Every team is going to lose somebody they don’t necessarily want to lose. The original mock draft had Vegas taking Emelin. I also saw versions where they take De La Rose. Will be interesting.

    • habsr4ever says:

      I never did understand the love to Pateryn or Tinordi on this site. They never earned a spot in our top 6 ever. They were always #7 or depth Dmen or AHL dmen. I do think Pats is an NHL #7 guy and an ok #7 but it was in the “who cares” category if he isn’t here or is. If he is all we worry about to make our team better well then we are in deep doo doo.

  49. TPT Petes says:

    After last night I can officially say that I’ve changed my favorite Habitant player to Jordie Benn. When he took that penalty last night for pulling down a Sens player who had just tapped Carey and was in our crease(i didn’t take note of who the Sens player was and it doesn’t matter) it made me feel glad all over. It happened very quick but as he grabbed the player by the shoulder pad and threw him to the ice, he actually gave him a quick jab to the face first. I love that stuff!! Not only did he remove the player from Carey’s turf he also gave him a little reminder that there are actual men wearing the CH now, not impostors.
    Then he defended Radulov in front of our bench. I hope evryone sitting on the bench took note of that. I’m sure Jullien did. The helmet tap with Rads in the penalty box sure showed that Rads sure appreciated the back-up.
    Not even to mention that he scored a nice goal on the shot from the point.
    Hi post-game interview when he talks about having fun out there giving face washes definitely put a smile on my face.

    • johnyk says:

      I liked it when Rads gave the ‘turd a shot in the mush during the scrum. Russians have put up with pain and shite for centuries, they aren’t pussies.

      Johnyk

  50. Timo says:

    Jessica has great hair. !!!

  51. sakuknows says:

    Was it just me or is the combo of Cole and Galley (and their dozen mistakes a shift) in back to back games warrant the mute button? Geez!

  52. B says:

    Washington no longer sits alone in first place.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  53. Flanelette says:

    I’m just a lay person, not a hockey expert like a lot of people on HIO. And I really appreciate your opinions and views. Now can might someone explain to me how Galchenyuk is supposed to be a centerman? He’s poor at faceoffs, can’t pass that well, and is lousy in his zone. Seems to me he is a pure sniper à la Camelleri. Is there something I’m missing?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      He indeed may be a better winger than centerman. But at this present time, he is the most offensively gifted player who has centering capabilities. To acquire a true elite #1 center is extremely difficult, it would seem to me the Habs are making the best of a current situation.

        • Paz says:

          I’d say we’re all equal. And equally wrong about more things then we care to admit.

          Radulov works as the center in the offensive zone, controlling the puck and distributing it.

          Defence and face offs, absolutely Galchenyuk needs a lot of work.

          I like Galchenyuk as a sniper, on the right wing.

          • Ozmodiar says:

            Funny that when Galchenyuk played RW in junior, he played the position like a centerman … controlling puck in o-zone, played like a center in the break-outs, etc…

            Part of the reason why MB thought he had a centerman when he drafted him.

    • sakuknows says:

      He was drafted 3rd overall because he played Centre in Junior. His stats are quite good 103gp, 58goals, 144pts.

      Why MT thought he should “develop” at wing is anyone’s guess but while he was there he practiced shooting and other things a Centreman doesn’t necessarily have the luxury of practicing.

      He needs to be put in a position to suceed. And getting the MT funk off will take time. He’s been better as of late in the face-off circle (last dozen or so games) and because his upside is so high, we need to live with his mistakes while he’s learning and making some.

  54. B says:

    The IceCaps are in a playoff spot, 4th place in the North division, 1 point behind the 3rd place Marlies, 2 back of 2nd place Albany and 5 back of 1st place Syracuse. All these teams have 12 games left to play in the regular season.

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Couple big games tomorrow night and Wednesday against the Flyers AHL affiliate Phantoms who are sitting 2nd in their division. Hopefully the Caps can get at least 3 points out of the 2 games. Still don’t like how the league has changed to winning % due to Gary not wanting the California teams to have to travel as much , thus giving them less games.

  55. Paz says:

    I remember asking 2 seasons ago how many here thought this team could win a Cup with Therrien as the coach and Desharnais as Pacioretty’s center? Actually, everyone who replied either stated they thought the team could be led by those two, or dismissed my question.
    Some questioned if I had anything against Quebecois players, or coaches. I remember those posters as well.

    Fast forward to today.

    Therrien is gone. What a huge mistake it was to hire him.
    Desharnais gone. He never should have received a 4 year extension. That was 2 years too long for a player that is one dimensional passer, weak shooter, weak defensively.

    Now Julien steps in. What a difference. He tried Emelin next to Weber at first. Then he made the switch to Markov. Not ideal of course. But such a huge improvement. The team has 2 losses since that change, I believe, to Calgary and Chicago.

    Then the team started to play with confidence. With poise. Weber has been better. Markov, much better. That’s where teams win Champioships, with an excellent top pairing on defence, and great goaltending.

    Then Julien put Galchenyuk on to the top line, creating a line that every team must play to defend. This puts defensive pressure on the opposing team, opens up opportunities for Daneault and Plekanecs’ lines.

    During the game, you see the team press effectively when they need a goal, with aggressive forecheck, and the right player deployment.

    Then you see the team play excellent defence when they want to kill the clock, following the coach’s advise and strategy all along the way.

    This is a very well coached team, with amazing goaltending, an excellent top pair of dmen, and 1 great line.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Everyone? I may not always agree with you Ed, but to state that everyone here either believed in MT and DD or just dismissed your question seems a bit overstated.

      Perhaps I didn’t see that specific question the day you posted it, but I think you know yourself that many folks here questioned not only the leadership/Coaching of MT but also the use of DD as our #1 center.

    • Flanelette says:

      If you’re gonna bash DD you have to be honest and bash Plekanec as well (very good game by him yesterday though)

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      To be fair to MT, he would have gone back to Markov on the 1st pairing too. I think the plan was to try everyone while resting Andrei first. If nobody stepped up, they would go back to Markov before the payoffs. Andrei’s injury is the best thing that happened to the team this season. If he is truly rested, they should be able to get to the ECF with this weak division.

      • Paz says:

        Maybe he would have made the change, but He stuck with Emelin throughout the 2 months of losing.

      • toneez says:

        DDO … no reason to be fair to a coach who puts himself above the team and throws star players under the bus … I can go on and on but I don’t like him and never did and never will, he’s useless and I am glad he’s gone , I can now root for the Habs and not be disgusted , we now have a coach that is a real coach not someone hired because his friend felt sorry for him ,…..

        All Habs all the Time

  56. DipsyDoodler says:

    Top 5 teams in the NHL in the past 4 weeks:

    Calgary (!), Chicago, Columbus, Montreal, Ottawa.

    And we just spanked Ottawa.

    —–

  57. HabinBurlington says:

    He is a wee bit more than a hot streak away now, what a night for Crosby.

    • Mavid says:

      Such an incredible talent..I hate it when people complain about him

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  58. AndyF says:

    Not (just) because it robbed the Habs of a goal last night, but the current NHL offside rule is completely ridiculous and practically unenforceable.

    Imagine a player has one foot ahead the blue line and most of his body behind the blue… but has lifted his rear foot so it no longer touches the ice. What is that, offside?

    The current rule is fraught with grey zones. Although the League seems to love grey zones, so I guess it’s consistent.

    • I’m 45, offside is offside, Byron had to drag his foot to keep himself onside, he didn’t and was in the zone ahead of the puck. He tried to cheat, and the Habs got burnt.

      You use the term “current rule,” are you referring to a new offside rule and I missed the rule change? I serious here, as I read someone else say something along the same lines last night.

      There is nothing grey about offside to me unless there was a rule change on it that I missed these past forty years playing the game. 🙂

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      • CalgaryHab says:

        Pretty sure he means the change is the ability to review offisides to have goals overturned.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Yes, this coaching challenge in offsides was brought in I think to help correct the obvious glaring missed calls. It has become something of a video game exercise. Most disturbing, however, is the inconsistency within this process. Last night it seemed Chicago was offside, the replay indicated this, yet the goal stood up.

          I don’t quite understand how a professional league can come up with a gameplan where a referee has to look at a tiny ipad (or whatever brand they use) and make the determination. Just seems like a recipe for disaster, nevermind the fact that perhaps bias can be involved in having the in game officials have to overturn their own calls. It would seem the rule itself of offside is clearcut, yet the process to determine this is far from it.

          • CalgaryHab says:

            Same with goaltender interference, what looks to be obvious or marginal seems to come down to a coin flip. The NFL seemingly gets most of their reviews correct (the ones I see anyway).

          • johnyk says:

            The NFL uses pro tv equipment, the NHL depends on the ref bringing his kid’s tablet to the game. Michel Souris!

            Johnyk

      • AndyF says:

        Sorry… should have said rule interpretation.


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