Blockbuster trade

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Dany Heatley is on the move again.
San Jose has shipped the sniper to Minnesota for Martin Havlat.

This comes on the heels of the deal that sent Brent Burns from the Wild to the Sharks for Devin Setoguchi.

Dave Stubbs on Roman Hamrlik

Jack Todd likes the Erik Cole signing

• In the Journal de Montreeal, Georges Laraque thinks the team overpaid for Cole ( BGL knows all about wasted salary).  And he predicts Benny Pouliot will burn the Habs

Sniffing around Keith Yandle?

Leafs gamble on Connolly and trade for two Predators

Larry Brooks on the Brad Richards signing

424 Comments

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  2. Duracell3 says:

    If they didn’t boo us, I’d almost be sorry for the state of Minnesota.

    Too bad they won’t even be able to get into the playoffs to watch Heatley flounder.

  3. TommyB says:

    Some observations and thoughts of events, after a gorgeous Canada Day weekend now that it’s Monday…..

    - Heatley on the move again! ………once an ******* always an *******.

    - Brian Burke is a genius! ……..what, again? Ask some Sabres fans how they feel about the departure of Tim Connolly. And ask Burkie what happened with his love-in for Komisarek. Singing him was a stroke of genius too, I remember. The Leafs will not be much better this year.

    - Georges Laroque thinks______ ! …….since when does Laraque think?

    - Pouliot underappreciated in Montreal and will sting us now that he is in Boston! ………get serious. This guy just doesn’t get it. Didn’t get it in Minny, didn’t get it in Montreal, and he ain’t gonna get it in Beantown either.

    - Julien will get the most out of Pouliot! …….LMAO, you mean like how he got so much out of the Habs when he was here running our bench?

    - Brad Richards makes his decision, signs with Sather’s Rangers! ….holy s*it, that’s just stunningly surprising, isn’t it.

    - Habs sign Erik Cole, the type of player many HIO visitors have been asking for, and just the type of player the Habs need, but many HIO visitors do not embrace the signing! ……..holy s*it, that’s just stunningly surprising, as well, isn’t it.

    There, that pretty much catches me up on what all you guys spent your entire weekend “discussing” indoors, instead of going outside and….living. Nothing personal, just an opinion.

    • thorandresson says:

      Awesome post!

      The only thing I have a bit of an issue with is your comments on Julien, I do believe he is a really good coach and should’ve stuck around montreal for longer, and I think it’s entirely Jose Theodore’s fault that he got the boot. What could he do when his 5 million dollar poster boy goalie was constantly letting in 5+ goals a game

    • Bugs says:

      Julien got the best outta Huey, didn’t he?

      Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

  4. Chuck says:

    Regarding Heatley, my guess is that he finally got fed up with his teammates refusing rides home from the rink and demanded the trade.

  5. HardHabits says:

    This place has become the Guinness Book of Skipping Records and Ripley’s But-If It or Not.

  6. JD_ says:

    * Erik Cole. Love watchin’ the highlights of him cuttin’ into the slot from the outside at high speed. It’s somethin’ you just don’t see as much as you used to, for a variety of reasons includin’ today’s far more mobile D-squads. Back in the day, even guys like Gainey and McPhee could build up enough steam to do it, difference bein’, unlike Cole, Gainey’s “la-ser” would end up knockin’ the toasté out of the hands of some guy in one of the Forum’s standin’ room sections.

    * Hopefully, there’s a lot of gas left in Colester’s tank.

    * Josh Jorges has not signed. In related news, a treasure trove of gold and silver jewelry, coins, and precious stones said to be worth US$11.2B has actually been found in five underground vaults at the Sree Padmanabhaswamy Temple in southern India. No word yet on whether or not the Sree Padmanabhaswamy Temple IceBlazers are preparin’ an offer sheet for Steve Stamkos.

    * I still quite can’t get my head around the whole Varly for a 1st – almost certain lottery pick – and 2nd rounder from the Avs. Then the Caps sign Voky for half of what Varly takes home. Eff me. McPhee deserves some sort of formal recognition for what was easily the most st00pid transaction of the year. Get the good people over Colgate-Palmolive to pony up for the Fleecy® Trophy or somethin’.

    * I don’t know about you, but the EC’s lookin’ awfully crowded these days.

    * You know, I really can’t fault Burkie for bein’ away durin’ Free Agent Whocarezy, but if PG had done somethin’ similar, a local knob like Rejean Tremblay would have singlehandedly levelled the Amazon Rainforest with his insatiable need to publish vitriol.

    * This just in: Zenon Konopka has announced th…zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

    * Another great NHL name for a porn star: Mike Peca.

  7. habstrinifan says:

    Hey Burkie… have you visited HIO recently? Lots of truculence!

    • Chuck says:

      More like ‘f*ckulence”…

    • HabFab says:

      Pretty sure that SOB used to post here as the Observer or something similar ….

    • HabFab says:

      Thought he posted as Observer??

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      The second someone mentions we need to toughen up, which we do, they get accused of being like Brian Burke….so lame.

      • ed lopaz says:

        get used to it Hobie. there is a lot of soft serve, vegetarian lasagna being served around here.

        Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

        • TomNickle says:

          That’s not true Ed. You think we need tougher players and I don’t call you Brian Burke.

          When people suggest sacrificing talent in favour of adding goons they get called Brian Burke, and rightfully so in my opinion. Since that’s exactly what he does.

          • ed lopaz says:

            was not referring to you Tom – but I understand Hobies frustration.

            I take Craig Ludwig on my team or Tinordi senior any day.

            On this site, too many regulars have been influenced by the Mods, and they think a veggie lasagna for 5.5 million will win us a Cup.

            Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          Well it seems that there are people that expect all four lines to be a scoring threat and having a tough guy is pointless. That is just plain stupid and not the way to build a well-balanced team.

          Forth line should be mean and tough but still able to be responsible in their own end. End of story!

          • TomNickle says:

            I wouldn’t trade Desharnais to make room for Konopka ;)

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            Either would I! I like that little guy.

            But I’d pickup Konopka as a UFA in about 2.5 seconds…

      • habstrinifan says:

        Missed my point entirely Hobie. I am one of those who wants the HABS to toghen up. Remember me ..and my Shane O’Brien button.

        My ‘truculence’ was laughing at the many little verbal tiffs that were going on today.

        Now say sorry or there’s gonna be some truculence coming your way!

  8. HabFab says:

    http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=568189

    Habs announce second prospect camp invites.

    Brodeur scored 53 goals last year for Lewiston in the Q, listed at 5’9″ and is the only undrafted invitee.

  9. TorontoHabsFan says:

    To build on an earlier terrifying thought – if…IF Tampa Bay decides that they cannot make a deal with Stamkos (something I’m still pretty sure will happen). Then couldn’t you see Boston making a strong offer of:

    Seguin – Legitimate Superstar Prospect
    Marchand – Playoff Hero (whose value will likely never be higher)
    Caron – 1st round pick, legitimate prospect.
    2nd rounder.

    That’s a king’s ransom of an offer but one that I think Boston could live with. If I’m Yzerman, it’s hard not to take that deal. *IF* he thinks that Stamkos won’t re-sign.

    *shudder*

    • avatar_58 says:

      If I’m in charge of the bruins Marchand goes nowhere. We all hate him but he’s going to be their go to guy for years.

      Seguin, on the other hand, is not needed. He has enough talent to be on a 2nd line ‘now’ and there’s no room in Boston. I’m actually surprised he wasn’t used as trade bait yet

      • ed lopaz says:

        seguin will be played about 17 minutes a game next season, and I would guess he will put up about 50 points.

        he is a great talent – lightning in a bottle – great nose for the net – excellent hockey player.

        Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Boston could even throw in Rask and it’s still a good deal for them.

      • TorontoHabsFan says:

        Good point! If I’m Chiarelli – I absolutely would make that offer to Yzerman in hopes of landing (arguably) the most talented offensive player in the game. Stamkos-Bergeron-Krejci down the middle would be one of the deepest in the league.

        And if I’m Yzerman, it’s pretty hard to turn down a potential top line replacement (Seguin), a hybrid Malone-St. Louis (Marchand), a rugged winger prospect with 2nd line potential (Caron) and a surefire replacement for your 42 yr old starting goalie (Rask)

        man that’s terrifying!

  10. LL says:

    You say tomato, I say tomahto.

    We all love the Habs, no?

  11. Hobie Hansen says:

    Random Thought….

    Even with our club looking better than it has in quite sometime…it is damn hard to win the cup.

    I was thinking yesterday that in the Eastern Conference we’re neck and neck with most of the teams with maybe the Penguins, with Crosby and Malkin heathy and Fleury playing well, being the cream of the crop.

    Once the playoffs start, we have a 1-16 chance. Just the fact that we have to wait a year for a 1-16 shot at winning the cup against teams that are our equal or slightly better, I hate those odds!

    I figure at 35-years-old I have about 40 more playoffs in my lifetime with a 1-16 shot at the cup. Hopefully we can pull it off beofre I’m in that great big hockey rink in the sky…

    Just a random thought :-)

  12. habby27 says:

    now i cant stop thinking about subban, yandle and beaulieu growing up together

  13. 306Hab says:

    I’ve been wondering; what 3 teams do you think Gomez would nix a trade to? his modified no trade says he can list 3 teams.

  14. Hey folks, I haven’t posted in ages, but those of you who know me know I can’t resist playing armchair GM, especially on a slow news day, and especially this time of year.

    So here’s what I’d try to get done — no wild and crazy Heatley-for-Havlat type deals, just a few low-risk high-potential-reward moves that I think are reasonable.

    - Swap Gomez, Gorges and a 2nd for Yandle: Yandle is a great big budding defenceman who doesn’t want to sign in Phoenix, where they’re also paper-thin at centre and could use a high cap-hit guy with a lowish cost to meet the cap floor without breaking their itty-bitty bank. Plus a rare player with Mexican heritage could be a marketing boon for a team that can’t sell tickets in a state where 29% of the population is Latino. Gorges and Gomez together aren’t as attractive in a trade as Yandle, but that’s what the 2nd-rounder is for. I’d hate to see Gorges go with his work ethic, youth, great stay-at-home potential and low cost, but you’ve got to give something to get something. Best-case scenario: Yandle is a top-2guy when Markov retires. Worst-case: he ends up about as good as Gorges does except more physical, and we basically give up a second-rounder to free up $7.4M in cap space for two years. Not good, but not bad as far as worst-case scenarios go.

    - Sign Prospal for $2.5M: Sure he’s 36. He also got 23 points in 29 games after his injury last year, and we’ll need insurance at centre in case Eller and Desharnais don’t work out on the 2nd line. Give him two years to seal the deal — at his age and with his injury history, he’ll want the insurance. Best case: he works great with Pax and Gionta and he gets 50 or 60 points. Worst-case: 30 points on the 3rd line centering Desharnais and Kostitsyn, for not a lot of money and only through next season. Sounds like a low risk to me.

    - Pick up Stortini, now that Edmonton has officially cut him loose: Keep him in the press box when we’re not playing the Bruins/Flyers/Leafs/etc. Cup contenders have guys like this: can drop the gloves, works as hard as anyone on the team, doesn’t mind sitting out, defensively responsible, and dirt cheap. Best case: he sticks up for our guys through 40 or 50 games and ends the year with an even plus-minus. Worst case: he turns vegan, joins the Green party and refuses to fight, so we put him on waivers. We can’t lose here.

    - Sign Konopka: Might be easier said than done, because he’ll be getting a lot of offers, but with Gomez gone, we’ve got tons of room to throw an extra $200k or $300k at him to sweeten the deal. He’s not perfect defensively, but he blocks shots like a fiend and will give everything he has to help the team win. Best case: he protects his teammates, takes clutch faceoffs and ends the year with an even plus-minus. Worst case: Ryan White is a natural centre and can fill in on the 4th line for him.

    So we end up with:

    Cammy-Pleks-Cole
    Pacioretty-Eller/Prospal-Gionta
    AK46-Prospal/Eller-Desharnais/Darche
    Moen-Konopka-White/Stortini

    Markov-Subban
    Spacek-Yandle
    Gill-Weber/Yemelin

    Here’s how it all works out capwise, with $6.8M to spare: http://www.capgeek.com/cap_calculator/roster.php?id=4053

    Whaddaya say? Am I crazy? And if you know Gauthier, feel free to pass him my cell number. : )

    Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  15. CHsam says:

    Several of us here are the EPITOME of Internet debating par-excellence lol!

  16. Neutral says:

    wow, the girls are arguing today trying to present reasons for or against players, good luck….

  17. SmartDog says:

    Dany, I have to say it.
    You REALLY F-D up this time.
    I mean, Ottawa to San Jose…smart. Hello great weather, awesome fresh food all year around, gorgeous scenery and just about the best quality of life anyone could imagine. If I could I would live there in an instant.
    But now… cold, nasty winters in the industrial heartland of America. HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
    There is Karma afterall.

    • OneTimer says:

      Minnesota is the industrial heartland of America?

      C’mon, SmartDog, I expected better even of you.

      • SmartDog says:

        I figured since the St. Lawrence reaches there and their claim to fame is the invention of Scotch tape (not to mention the world’s largest pelican at 15′ tall), I figured it’s industrial. I guess it’s bread basket too? Never been there. But I know there ain’t no ocean and it’s freakin’ cold half the year.

        • boing007 says:

          Richard R
          I flew over Wisconsin and Minnesota in 1984, on my way to LA for the Olympics. Beautiful country.

        • Duracell3 says:

          Lots of Mills. The cities are very industrial, although I think most would consider a little to the east to be the industrial, and a little to the south the agricultural heartland(s) of the US.

          Flat with trees, and the cities are very smoggy. I’d take the peg any day.

    • shootdapuck says:

      Not to mention a lovely chardonnay available at the concessions in the SJ arena!

      … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office.

      Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

    • ed lopaz says:

      when the Expos left, I chose the Twins as my favorite ball team.

      Love those Twinkies!!

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  18. habs03 says:

    Since P.G. offered Hamrlik a contract, you got to believe he is still looking for a D-man. I suggest Scott Hannan, would be perfect, maybe 4 years 14M 3.5M if possible. that would give us
    Markov-Gorges/Yemelin
    Hannan-Subban
    Gill-Gorges/Yemelin
    ex Spacek/Weber

    Looks great to me.

    • thorandresson says:

      Was thinking of Hannan too, but probably at a much lower cost considering he’s still available. Maybe one or 2 years at 2.5 million a year?

      • Robert L says:

        Hannan’s best days are behind him, methinks. With Gorges once he signs, Habs will have 8 potential NHL D-men (inclu. Yemelin and Diaz). I’d say it’s smartest to save the cap space for potential injuries, just as they have in the past – i.e. picking up Wiz last season.

        • HabFab says:

          Glad to see you posting Robert and hopefully you can continue over the summer. The hockey IQ raises considerable around here when you do.

        • thorandresson says:

          Or RFA’s who don’t get signed after aribitration. Remember that year when Bob desperately signed Samsonov, when he could’ve waited and gotten JP Dumont after Buffalo couldn’t sign him…

          • TorontoHabsFan says:

            I wouldn’t be surprised if Dumont becomes a late summer addition to Montreal.

  19. CHsam says:

    While I liked Pouliot and feel a bit sorry for him, my guess is that he had off-ice issues a la Higgins, Lats, Laps etc etc.. Maybe too much partying as a star player. He had ample time to get his act together and by Playoff time he was a mess. I mean, how can such a top 4 pick be so bad on his skates???? What the he’ll did he do last summer? Im sure management can share some of the blame, but Im sure the experts created all sorts of training regimens for him. If I had it my way, I’d make him do all sorts of squats and deadlifts till his central nervous system is fried.. Then add lots of power skating. Make the guy train
    till he’s rock solid. That’s what I was hoping from this guy- to become a beast. Oh well.

    • thorandresson says:

      Don’t know if you watch L’Antichambre, but Mario Tremblay (a guy who coached him in Minnesota) would always say that he was missing “du chien”, in other words he doesn’t take it to that next level, doesn’t have that drive. He’s the opposite of Pyatt, a guy who’s got no talent but tons of heart. If only the could’ve merged Pyatt and Benny into one player…

      • Robert L says:

        No off ice issues for Pouliot, just work ethic comprehension. Mario has alluded over and over that his faults have followed him for some time. Coaches in Minny had as much trouble as Martin in getting things across to him. It’s just that way with players who have certain elite skill. They think it is enough. It’s not.

  20. Sportfan says:

    Ok so is there any word on Konopka or are we just wishing/praying we would get him ??
    Haha as for the Gomez rumors now what is the rumor him for who to the Coyotes?

    • punkster says:

      (Sigh)

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • ed lopaz says:

      this is from Feb 2011, I think this is where all of the rumors have started.

      The battered and bruised Montreal Canadiens have little time to lick their wounds after the 8-6 beating they took at the hands of the Bruins in Boston, getting right back on the ice Thursday night against the well-rested New York Islanders.

      The residual effect of that throwback game was definitely noticed in the Islanders dressing room, particularly by tough guy Zenon Konopka, the League-leader in penalty minutes with 181 on the season.

      “When you prepare for a team, you want to look at every avenue that you can exploit,” Konopka said. “When you go against Montreal, it’s no secret you want to get physical with them.”

      Konopka admits he’s biased when he says a team will have difficulty winning without players who can compete in games that turn overly physical.

      An unrestricted free agent after the season, Konopka also made no effort to hide the fact he would love to fill that role for the Canadiens if his services were to be required at the trade deadline.

      “Every player wants to play in Montreal at some point in their career,” said Kenopka, who will get that chance Thursday night, except in an Islanders uniform.

  21. natethegreat says:

    brock trotter signing official (as per tsn)

  22. HabFanSince72 says:

    Something I’m worried about.

    Looks like Tampa are having trouble signing Stamkos.

    They might be open to offers, which would have to be pretty astronomical.

    Now name a team that is overstocked with good to excellent NHLers, and who could afford to make an insane 4-5 players plus picks for Stamkos deal, maybe because what the heck they’ve just won their cup so they’re playing with house money now.

    • TomNickle says:

      Flyers, Bruins, Rangers, Penguins, Blackhawks, Red Wings(debatable), Sharks, Canucks.

      On the Lightning though, I think they’re having to play with a lot of math to figure what works best long term. I don’t know if it speaks poorly of the front office that they haven’t had this in the bank a long time ago, but talks of an extension for Stamkos should have begun a long time ago.

      • Mark C says:

        I don’t think its fair to blame Tampa management, and the great Stevie Y, remember they’ve been busy locking up, such stalwarts and MAB, Roloson, and Brewer for $8.35M for next season. :)

        • habstrinifan says:

          “The great Stevie Y”…. dont forget accomplished, admired, humble and ecumenical in his lack of contempt for others…. if you get my drift.

    • FormalWare says:

      KHL champs Salavat Yulaev Ufa, winners of the Gagarin Cup? (Granted, they’re overstocked with EX-NHLers…)

      Habs: Possessors of the league’s best PK–now, and for the foreseeable future

    • db says:

      I think the package to trade for him would be almost as high as 4 first round picks and would include at least one current roster player. He’s set up for a payday either way. Would another GM throw an offer sheet at him? Would you do that to Stevie Y?

  23. TomNickle says:

    Nahlsy,

    You are by far the most rude, arrogant, ignorant and self loving internet poster I’ve ever come across.

    Your incessant unfounded insults come of as a desperate attempt to justify your own opinion and wreak of somebody who can’t stand to discuss anything with anyone who has a differing view of things.

    In my experience with you you’ve treated your opinion like a consensus view of the hockey world and more recently the sports world and can’t stand to evaluate things in those areas in a way other than your own. While speaking this way, you’ve been unbelievably miserable and haven’t been able to get a full sentence out in response without an unfounded insult.

    It truly is pathetic that you can only see things your way and can’t disagree without being a jerk.

    I’ve been known to fly off the handle a little bit but on my worst day I could never be as much of an ahole as you’ve been to me today.

    You really aren’t worth spit and I hope that karma finds you in spades.

    • HabFab says:

      Dude, not a way to be speaking to a lady…keep it together, please!!!

      • HardHabits says:

        IMO it’s a lot easier to say, “You’re an idiot!”

      • TomNickle says:

        I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not. I don’t know if Nahlsy is male or female. But I know that regardless of gender nobody should feel entitled enough to speak to another person the way Nahlsy spoke to me today.

        • HabFab says:

          Tom, good point as I am usually sarcastic but in this case I’m not.You can call me old fashioned if you like, but I’m serious.

          • TomNickle says:

            I am much more respectful, especially towards women than you might think. And I didn’t know what gender Nahlsy was prior to your post. But to be truthful, I wouldn’t have changed a thing about my post. The way she’s spoken to me has been disgusting in my opinion.

            And I’m not about to apologize for it, nor am I about to change my opinion of her because of that fact.

            Sorry, hope you don’t think less of me for it.

    • bwoar says:

      “In my experience with you you’ve treated your opinion like a consensus view of the hockey world”

      And the crow calls the raven black.

  24. kitbeyer says:

    Ya, Pouliot MIGHT become in Boston what everyone hoped he would become here. It would be good for him, I wish him the best but only wish he could have figured it out while he was here. If he does become a star I don’t think it is fair to blame PG for losing him for nothing. If you were an NHL GM what would you have traded for the opportunity to qualify the Benoit Pouliot of last season at $1.35M knowing you might be able to snag him for less as a UFA? You’d probably offer up the same as every other actual GM, nada. Benoit Pouliot will not be the habs undoing next year, that is certain. I can pretty much guarantee that whatever team wins the cup next year will not have a single guy named Benoit Pouliot on it. Hopefully they do have a guy named Erik Cole though.

    • Bugs says:

      No one championed this kid more than I did.
      But at the same time, we have to admit, I have to admit, that surely management knows the kid better than we do, better than I do.
      He was dirt cheap. High ceiling talent. Good deal all across the board with almost nothing to lose. And we still said no.
      There a must be a REASON. A reason we don’t know about. Or reasonS for that matter. Like I said, for we know, maybe he was having crying tantrums in the dressing-room between periods about he hates the game of hockey and he doesn’t want to play anymore; we don’t know.
      This management team has gotten us further than we’ve been in 18 years and if they say Poolio had to go, then Poolio had to go.
      And that’s it.
      So screw’m. I never liked him anyway. It was all an act.

      Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

      • songles says:

        I think it comes down to role-playing and known quantities. I’ve noticed that the Jacques Martin system thrives on consistency of play more than it does on high achievement. That’s why Pouliot stuck out like a sore thumb. Like you say, he has a high ceiling, but his level of play was so unpredictable on a team that needs everyone to be a role-player. Kostitsyn looks the same way during his worst games; he’s at his best when he just blends in with the system and occasionally finds a creative way to bury the puck.

        The exception to the rule is Subban. He is unpredictable to say the least. But it’s almost as if his role is to mix things up and keep the other team guessing. He’s the one element of risk that Martin’s system can handle.

      • SmartDog says:

        I see your point… but I think that you can fix motivation. Or at least a lot easier than you can teach Moen to do what Pouliot can do.

        I still think he’ll right his ship – or someone with more insight into younger players than we have will. For all the good the Habs management brings, you can’t say this is their strength.

        • thorandresson says:

          he failed in Minnesota too, the kid has the talent but missing the drive, don’t expect much from him. And even if he performs somewhat, he’s not the kind to bring it in the playoffs.

      • Chris says:

        Bugs!!! Egad, man…you can’t just turn your back on your boy like this!

        Look at me…I’ve supported Chris Higgins through thin and thinner. But I’m still there, supporting the guy who was supposed to one day become the Habs’ next captain. :)

        AS for Pouliot, I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the rationale for letting him go. Looking at the Habs, I think it is fair to say that Jacques Martin is EXTREMELY safe in his position: the team let the heir apparent (Guy Boucher) walk last year. They are letting Kirk Muller, the next prodigal son, walk this summer. Players in his doghouse (Kostitsyn, Latendresse, Laraque, Pouliot, O’Byrne) not only don’t emerge from that doghouse, they get their doghouse sent to another city.

        I’m not one of those that think Pouliot has top-line potential, maybe not even top-6 potential. But I DO think he could become a very useful third line player for the right team. We’ll see if Claude Julien’s Bruins are that team.

    • Habfan4lfe says:

      Pouliot couldn’t be anything in Montreal because JM is a moron. How many more players do we have to lose who do better on other teams before PG figure it out. With all the trading that goes on PG still can’t unload Gomez onto another team. Sad. So we are stuck with this guy for god knows how long. Woo, at least we can see him do his skate between blue lines. Sigh. And I’ll bet we’ll have #1 arse kisser Moen back in the lineup because he’s just so full of talent.

      • thorandresson says:

        How do you explain Pouliot failing in Minnesota too, is it JM’s fault somehow? You’re probably one of those morons who was criticizing JM to no end when he benched PK (which was probably one of his best moves of the season).

      • kitbeyer says:

        JM: A moron? Because Pouliot couldn’t play his system, he’s a moron. I think we have a great coach with a great coaching philosophy and a great system and PG has done a good job of jettisoning the dead weight who can’t or won’t buy in and bringing in guys who will. Yes, the individuals may not be as individually productive if they play his system but last time I checked their was only one stat that mattered in hockey. And considering the team was “blown up” not long ago I think we are moving in the right direction on that front.

        Gomez: I like how you use the term “unload” with all it implies but act like some team is just sitting there waiting for PG to offer.

        Moen: #1 arse-kisser? This guy is not in the lineup because of his talent, that is for sure. He is in the lineup because he does whatever JM asks of him (is that what you meant by arse-kisser?) when the guys with the talent won’t. He should be a 3rd or 4th liner but was forced to fill holes, at times, in the top 6 because our “talent” couldn’t figure out how to play a system.

        I personally am excited that we have a great coach, with a great system, and a GM who continues to improve the talent of the players willing to play within the system. This team is evolving into something that is tough to beat nearly every game and is only going to get tougher.

        • ed lopaz says:

          The team is ready to win.

          Martin is not the guy to do it.

          Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

    • FormalWare says:

      So, Poolio’s due to get married, then? ;)

      (Don’t jump all over me, folks! Just couldn’t resist the wordplay. Not that a pretty decent Boston team has ZERO chance to repeat…)

      Habs: Possessors of the league’s best PK–now, and for the foreseeable future

      • kitbeyer says:

        Haha nice. I agree Boston has a great team, but there are a lot of great teams in the league and I was just playing the odds against things falling so nicely into place for them again next year.

  25. cheezboie says:

    1. Mystery behind Trotter contract revealed & I’m glad he is on a 2-way.
    2. Rumours about a Gomez to Coyotes has me hoping. If he goes plug DD into second line duty – More heart, creativity & chemistry with MaxPac. Then if you did sign Konopka have Darche-Eller-AK46 & Moen-Konopka-White as your 3rd and 4th lines.
    3. KONOPKA! As long as he’s not asking too much for 4th line faceoff specialist who drops the gloves (I’d rather a 4th liner be responsible for this than a D or a 3rd liner.

    My armchair GM 11/12 Habs –
    rough salary guess-timates in brackets = cap hit of 61.694 mill
    leaving 2.606 million for adding sandpaper (cap ceiling 64.3 million)

    Camm 6 – Pleks 5 – Cole 4.5
    MaxPac 1.625 – Gomez 7.357– Gio 5
    Darche 0.7 – Desharnais 0.850 – AK46 (off-wing) 3.25
    Moen 1.5 – Engqvist 0.900 – White (0.9)
    Eller 1.27 (Plug into 3rd line center duty when healthy – then White centers Darche & Moen on 4th line & Desharnais moves to LW on 3rd line)

    First call up – Palushaj

    Markov (lefty) 5.75 – Gorges (lefty) (3)
    Gill (lefty) 2.25 – Subban (righty) 0.875
    Yemelin (lefty) 0.984 – Spacek (lefty) 3.833
    Weber (righty) 0.850 (can also use as RW/PP specialist a la Streit)
    Diaz (righty) 0.9

    first call up – Nash (lefty)

    Price 2.75
    Budaj 1.15

    -0.5 Laraque buyout

    • punkster says:

      OK, I guess I’m the official Konopka buzz killer around this place so, here goes:
      Konopka.
      Plug.

      End of story.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • Bugs says:

        Now, you’re just copy/pasting, Brewster!
        Spice it up a bit. Give us some friggin variety, why dontcha?

        Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

        • punkster says:

          Naaa, this Konopka guy’s not worth the effort. Of course if the masses start clamouring for him again I’ll have to step in with the big guns. Was up to Joe’s place yesterday. Had a heart to heart with the heart. I know, I know, it’s a bit shrivelled up and dried out but it spoke to me, ya know. It said “No Konopka”, clear as day. “No Konopka” is what I heard and no Konopka is what I preach. Can’t argue with the heart. I mean, it’s the heart, ya know?

          ***Subbang Baby!!!***

          • HabFab says:

            Is this the line you used to convert the Hungarian goulash?

          • Bugs says:

            If it’s shriveled and dried up, then surely its voice is muffled.
            You sure it wasn’t sayin “GO Konopka”?
            Maybe it was sayin “go” insteada “no” but bein all “shriveled and dried up”-like, it wasn’t PRONOUNCIN properly.
            Hey, worth considerin is all.

            Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

          • punkster says:

            You know, I’m open minded and since I live only a few blocks away I’ll just hike back up there later and check that out. “Go” instead of “no” eh? Possible, sure. Might have been saying “slow” or even “beau” or for all I know it might be “Poe”. It is a Tell-Tale Heart after all.

            ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • Robert L says:

        Nah Punkster. I thought so too, but all of Zenon’s attributes – the fighting, faceoff %, and PK work – disguise his drawback, brutal skating. He’s miserable 5 on 5.

    • Bugs says:

      Sayin it again:
      Dezzy = mini-Marc Savard.
      The magic number is 70pts. Can he crack it?
      Cuz boy, oh boy, I think he can.

      Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • 306Hab says:

      I’ve been wondering; what 3 teams do you think Gomez would nix a trade to? his modified no trade says he can list 3 teams. Those would be some dangerous lines you’ve got there, i like em.

    • prankstergod says:

      haven’t really seen much on gomez rumours outside of the fourth period (and other media sourcing TFP); have there been other credible reports of discussions with phx?
      would love to see a move to rid the gomez contract (i actually like gomez but his contract is hurting the team’s long term prospects) and maybe even pick up yandle, who according to bob mac phoenix is considering shopping.

  26. derfab says:

    I think the leafs just keep signing guys to stay in the news. The only thing they have in common with the rangers is that they consistently manage to do nothing despite money and a half-decent line-up.


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