BeDevilled again

Same old same old, despite an early exit by Martin F. Brodeur

Pat Hickey’s game story

Gill takes blame for first goal

Price moving up in record book

Devils brought their A-game

About yesterday afternoon …

Jack Todd on Gomez

• Arpon Basu on good 2011 stats

Pierre Ladouceur’s game analysis

• Brendan Kelly on Nos Canadiens

323 Comments

  1. Mark C says:

    Montreal isn’t a very good team, yet Tampa might be complete? I recommend a few minutes checking out the team stats page on NHL.com.

  2. Storm Man says:

    Who cares what he has to say anymore. Arpon Basu is a better columnists.

  3. HardHabits says:

    I just laugh.

    Of topic. Or back to topic. Last night was one of the 1st times I’ve noticed Kovalchuck as an impact player. What’s worse is with all his skill he’s 6’2″ and 240 pounds. I really hope Lemaire retires before he turns KovyII into a better player than he already is.

    About Jacques Lemaire, man I dislike that coach. Except when he was Habs coach. Back then I knew he was going to be a very good. It really pissed me off when he left Montreal, left because of the pressure from the fans and media to put out an offensive team whereas he was leaning towards defense first. His coaching the Habs was his initial dabbling in the dreaded trap.

    Is retrospect 20/20 or is it just another case of sour grapes turned into a bitter whine?

    Nah. Only in the bowels of New Jersey could such a festering hockey strategy be developed. In essence Jacques Lemaire forced the rule changes of a few years ago.

    Apparently, and in its honour, those rules were suspended yesterday aft and it was 1995 all over again.

  4. Storm Man says:

    Read it again…. If I was thinking like you I would have to. My life does not live and die with hockey unlike you. maybe you need some catnip.

  5. Habnofear says:

    Who’s better Alexi Yashin or Scott Gomez?

  6. HardHabits says:

    The Gaurdian Project is by far the lamest fail since Windows Vista. There is no way to describe the cheap suckiness of it. It’s beyond bad. It seriously needs to be spoofed. LOL. That would go so viral.

  7. Strabo says:

    Nice article by Apron, it helps to see things in a different light. You hear and read so many negative things about the Habs, it just wears on you.

     

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  8. The Cat says:

    I know what you meant einstein…

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  9. HabFanSince72 says:

    Bit worried at Gionta and Kostitsyn’s numbers during that 16 game stretch.

    And of course who leads the team in minus since Dec 31?

     

  10. Storm Man says:

    Anytime Homer……..

  11. The Cat says:

    To be fair I said maybe. TB can score and their D stats can only improve with Roloson…The thing is I dont see the habs increasing their goal outputs, theres no reason to believe it will. Ottawa was the same under JM, they couldnt score, theyd lose 2-1 or 3-2 and Lalime was scapegoated.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  12. HabFanSince72 says:

    Lemaire is hands down the best coach of the past 20 years.

    It’s not just the trap. Look how he turned NJ from worst to best.

  13. Mark C says:

    Again, spend some time checking out the team stats page. Outside of Martin’s first year in Ottawa the team finished no worse than 6th in goals scored, and lead the league in his last season.

     

  14. habsguy says:

    Best ??????????????

  15. Chris says:

    The trap was around long, long before Lemaire perfected it in New Jersey.  It was running rampant in the Swedish hockey, for example.

    I really don’t understand why people hate the trap so much.  New Jersey played their system beautifully.  They were still generating scoring chances, so if you were a New Jersey fan it must have been a fun game to watch. 

    We’re only mad because they played their system better than the Habs played their own. 

  16. Chris says:

    Agreed. With Barry Trotz probably a close second, in my opinion.

  17. christophor says:

    Because nothing could possibly have happened between then and now. Nothing. There’s no way some other deal could have materialized over the last two years. None. That’s why you’re right…because there is no other way things could have happened. I’ve got it now. Keep it coming.

  18. habsguy says:

    I dont know that I would call a player “great” unless he played great in the playoffs as well.

  19. anotherhab says:

    “Turkey” is being awfully kind!!

  20. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    So you feel that there are alot of flawed teams this year in the East and you’re surprised that the Hagbs have as many wins as they do. Yet, they are in the thick of things with all of these flawed teams, boy you have really underestimated this team, haven’t you? Do you ever see the positives of them?

    I agree with you about Philly, but there is no other team that scares me in the East, Montreal can compete with any of them.

  21. kempie says:

    Way to piss off an entire species of the animal kingdom.

  22. The Cat says:

    Yes but as the season goes, the games get tighter. Ottawa went from scoring to scoring less. Montreal will go from scoring less to ? Im not saying they wont score or will stop winning, Im just saying theres no reason to believe offensive production will increase.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  23. The Cat says:

    Sure theres some positives. I love PK Subban, I think he’ll be a superstar. But have you seen the team win when Price hasnt been very good? It hasnt happened often.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  24. Chris says:

    He donated a bunch of money to the National Arts Centre but it came with a condition of almost half going to his parents for consulting fees. He originally argued that he pulled the donation because the NAC had refused to honour his request to use the money to bring in Russian ballet companies. Like you said, that whole charade on top of two contract hold-outs sealed the deal for Yashin.

    Nonetheless, he was a good player on the ice. Even coming back to play that 2000-01 season after the arbitrator ruled against him, he could have mailed it in a bit. Instead, he had one of his best seasons, at least statistically, while surrounded with a much improved supporting cast.

  25. andrewberkshire says:

    He’s certainly the most influential coach, but I wouldn’t say best. By virtue of success, Mike Babcock is far and away the best coach in the NHL.

  26. HardHabits says:

    Oh I am bitter. ;-)

  27. Ian Cobb says:

    BeDevilled by more than the Devils folks.

    We are starting to slip a little this past week. But not as bad as some may suggest. Other teams are now starting to get the injury bug now as well. This time of year the game picks up in speed and intensity.

    We have been hit with slow starting first period hockey, this has to be turned around. The season is becoming very short. I wonder if Gauthier and staff are going to make a move.?

     

    In a 30 team league, here is where we are placed this week over last week.

     

    Goals Against—-131,  We are in  6th place.   Last week we were in   4th place.

    Total points——-65,  We are in  9th place.   Last Week we were in   9th place.

    Goals For——–139,  We are in 22nd place.  Last week we were in 22nd place.

  28. HardHabits says:

    Scott Gomez is acting like a “petulant, spoiled child,” writes Jack Todd

    Jack Todd’s writing is like a “flatulant, spoiled mold,” writes HardHabits

  29. Shiloh says:

    Nice to see the same old Jack Todd haters out. For some here, good writing is defined by how many instances of excessive praise can be heaped on Carey Price in one sentence. You see, folks, disagreeing with a writer is one thing – and it’s a perfectly normal occurrence. But morphing that disagreement into spewing vitriol is just inappropriate and sad.

    Todd’s article criticizes Gomez but praises Subban, Jacques Martin and Woody Fryman. He writes about how much he likes Forsberg but wishes he would hang them up. He takes a stand on Ben the Rapist – a clear and unequivocal stand.

    And for this honest revealing approach he is vilified by the Carey-loving horde. I can’t expect all of you to develop a sense of proportion when you read, but I can ask you to reflect on why you must pound hate out into the blogosphere because you disagree with a sportswriter – a very talented writer who we are fortunate to have.

  30. Chris says:

    Hard to compare.  Both guys have Stanley Cups (1 each).  Babcock jumped from the Ducks to a powerhouse franchise in Detroit, so his success has to be tempered a little by the fact he jumped to a pretty ideal situation.

    Lemaire turned around a Devils franchise that was floundering and instilled a system and work ethic that has thrived there for almost 20 seasons.  He then went to Minnesota and turned around that franchise, leading them to their best years.

    And now he’s come back to New Jersey and has that franchise righting itself again.  Like Ken Hitchcock, Lemaire has specialized in taking really bad teams and making them respectable.  I don’t think you could go wrong with either Lemaire or Babcock.  But I’d still take Lemaire and Trotz over Babcock as I think they have done very well with a LOT less talent.

  31. newbrunswick troy says:

    Ok i,m just home now from my trip to Montreal….seen both games from up in the nose bleeds, that said i couldn,t help but want to vent (from my vast hockey knowledge)

    1- Spacec is fat,slow and the game has totaly passed him by (but i still love hearing him talk in interviews)

    2-Hamrlik is slow – but very smart with puck , an asset (manage minuites on ice)

    3- Gill- steady and is well suited with P.K

    4 P.k is exactly what this team needs – seems like habs only have chance to score if he,s on ice!

    5- Picard & Weber – made severe errors almost every shift ( ticking timebomb )

    6- Kostitsyn is an absolute waiste of capspace!!! has a great shot but won,t skate to get chance to use it!!

    7- Gomez – not worth 8mil., but works hard & always competes does set up good plays (keep him)

    8 Gio & Plecs – both are the heart & soul of this team!!! period end of story

    9- Pac is doing great !! Desharnie (or however u spell it) has to work 100% (way too small for even 90%)

    10- Price is a true elite goalie no doubt about it

    11- Everybody else just fills up space – i mean i love moen (but he can,t pass the puck & can,t pick up pass)

    the rest are like that too!!! I was kind of creeped out how Darche would sit on bench before game so that people could just look at him and take pictures?????? kinda vain eh??

    Anyway thats just the way i saw it …maybe if someone gave me tickets to the next two games– i would see it different again!!!

      Oh p.s  who the hell pays $10 for a beer—well i did 5 times!!!

  32. HardHabits says:

    He’s certainly one of the best. I was really miffed when he left Montreal. It’s disheartening.

  33. The Cat says:

    I just googled it. I should have before but it was 1 000 000 of which 425 000 was to go to his parents for what was said to be ‘loosely defined’ consulting fees lol

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  34. Chris says:

    After watching both Habs games this weekend (I don’t have regular TV access at the moment, so this weekend was a treat), I have to point out that P.K. Subban makes as many mistakes, if not more, as any other Habs defenceman.  He is a joy to watch, but he remains raw.  I posted the stat that he and Gorges gave up the most even strength goals of any D-men on the team, and after focussing on Subban this weekend, I saw why…he makes a LOT of rookie mistakes, both in his own end and with some very ill-timed or risky pinches.

    That being said, I’m very happy with the development of both Weber and Subban.  They are both needed ingredients moving forwards, and it is great to see the two of them developing in the NHL.  The Habs are very fortunate.

  35. The Cat says:

    I dont get it, Ive certainly read worse about Gomez on here, yet Todd doesnt seem to be allowed to say much of the same. All in all I rarely read Todd. When I want truth about the habs, I go to the french media…Flame on bitches ^_^

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  36. Mark C says:

    If your theory of games getting tighter as the season goes along is true, won’t it be true for all teams and not just Montreal?

    Based on last’s year’s numbers, Montreal’s offensive production did decrease from the regular season to the playoffs by 0.14 GPG, or 11 goals over 82 games. Based on your theory being right, I would guess that a decrease of 0.14 GPG is at least average and maybe even a good number.

     

  37. punkster says:

    Scott Gomez.

    Discuss.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  38. HardHabits says:

    Awesome post. I agree 100%. Except for the part about Gomez.

  39. Jordio-oh says:

    I respect that you take a stand and write about what you believe in, but you lose strength when you can’t resist adding things in like “carey-loving horde”. The fact that your Halakian undertones are still showing through months after we traded him away are as entertaining as they are sad. Additionally,  criticism of Gomez is entirely fair but people take exception when you call a veteran player like Gomez a spoiled, petulant child. Todd has never been eloquent in his writing (in fact there’s nothing about him that makes me think he’s a good writer) but i still expect a better choice of words from him.

  40. BoomBoom says:

    Not blaming the refs for yesterday’s loss but it was another example of sub-standard referring that is becoming all too common especially for Habs games. Yesterday’s duo of Justin St.Pierre and Kevin Pollack were crap and let a lot of things go.  By the way, Justin St.Pierre is becoming the new Chris Lee. I don’t know if he is trying to prove that as a French Canadian, he doesn’t favor the Habs but he tends to go against the Habs in most of his calls a la Chris Lee. St.Pierre who in 7 years in the league has never, NEVER officiated a NHL playoff game. Why is this guy still ref in the NHL if after 7 years he’s not considered good enough to officiate a first round playoff game. Final note, just once, I’d like to see Jacques Martin blow up at the refs like Lindy Ruff. Since he’s not known for that, blowing up at the ref early in the 2nd period could see calls go the Habs way for a change.

  41. avatar_58 says:

    Scott Gomez? Scott Gomez Scott Gomez! Gomez? Scott! Scott Gomez? Gomez, Scott, Scott Gomez Gomez? Gomez? GOMEZ! GOOOOOOO MEZ! Scott Gomez Scott Gomez Scott Gomez Scott Gomez Scott Gomez!

     

    Scott Gomez

  42. Oddball says:

    Sorry my mistake, I thought we were talking about the “worst trade ever” as mentioned in the original comment, not some make-believe, genie-in-a-bottle, could a, should a, would a, scenario.

    Tell you what, why don’t you make up an imaginary deal, you know, the one Gainey should have made. Then I’ll be able to “keep it coming” just like you asked. 

    It feels good helping out the less fortunate.

     

    ..always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves..

  43. adamkennelly says:

    my game analysis…our D could not handle the aggressive NJ forecheck, they scored 2 goals and then they did to us what we did to the Caps and Pens in the playoffs last year.

    also – the refing was terrible..missed a bunch of calls both ways..those two are clowns.

  44. JohnBellyful says:

    Typical Punkster. Goes on and on and on and on…………..and on and on and on

  45. Shiloh says:

    There’s nothing Halakian about my post. I have been a regular here for a good long while and it has been my experience that most players on the team can be spoken of in less-than-kind terms – but should one dare to imply that Price has had a bad game, or even shift, the wrath of the horde descends.

    It’s like a bizarre exercise in groupthink sometimes. Price – good. AK46 – bad. But when the name ‘Todd’ appears, the drooling haters begin to writhe and snarl – almost on cue. They appear to delight in trying to outdo each other in their venomous ejaculations. It’s sort of humourous in a way – but very sad in so many other ways.

    Todd is widely considered to be one of North America’s best sportswriters. His columns often transcend his subject matter – have a look at the one he wrote on Tiger Woods last year – or any he produced on the Turin Olympics. Lately, he’s down to one column a week as he pursues his other career as a novelist – and these columns are generally less thematic than the ones he produced in the past.

    I understand that there may be some “need” on the part of posters to suck up to Boone and Stubbs by dissing their colleague, but that is just sad. In fact, Boone went a tad over the line in that regard a few months back and the site was promptly scrubbed.

    You can tell me that Gomez is great or that he stinks – or that PK should be traded for a Zamboni tire. That’s a hockey argument where we can exchange views. But when you venture into the territory of critique of writing, even if you detest the ground he walks on, you must recognize Todd’s ability – there’s no argument about that unless you are totally ignorant of the subject.

  46. punkster says:

    Somebody stop me!

    ***Subbang!!!***

  47. JohnBellyful says:

    and on and on and on

  48. JohnBellyful says:

    Suckiness? Spoof? What’s that I hear? A rerun! From last Tuesday:

     

    Submitted by JohnBellyful on Tue, 02/01/2011 – 11:53.

    The Guardian Project: Canadien

    Episode One: Front Row Seat … to Death

    Canadien and his sidekick, Sacre Bleu, stand vigil high atop a skyscraper, watching over the great metropolis and its metropolits. The wail of a poutine delivery truck siren pierces the clamour of downtown traffic. Sacre Bleu follow its path and then excitedly points to the corner of a small city park, exclaiming: “Can’, look, it’s The Scalper!”

    Canadien unplugs his EhPod. The Pretty Good Hits of Robert Charlebois would have to wait another time. “You’re right, SB! Let’s nab him!”

    Canadien rockets to street level. Sacre Bleu, propelled by his cursing a blue streak, races down the side of the building and joins his partner as he is moves in on their unsuspecting foe.

    But just as Canadien is about to clip him with a high stick, he collapses, clutching his throat, gasping. The Scalper turns and his look of fear immediately turns to triumph when he realizes the fallen superhero is choking like the Bruins.

    Alarmed, Sacre Bleu opens his foul mouth to unleash a torrent of abuse but nothing comes out. The Scalper is holding up a platinum ticket to the Habs game that night, for just $150. SB knows it’s bogus but he’s overwhelmed by the thought of snaring a great seat for peanuts. His vituperative powers rendered impotent – as useless as the Islanders protecting a rare lead – the sidekick slumps to the ground.

    “Can’, do something! I should be hurling $%#&%#*& at that creep but I can’t even muster a #@*. That deal is too good to get mad about. But you, you’re better than that. What’s wrong?”

    Canadien grabs Sacre Bleu by the tunic and pulls him close to his face. Fighting for breath, his chest heaving, his voice no more than a whisper, he asks: “Sacre, …who is….. the team ……playing ….. tonight?”

    “Toronto.”

    Canadien turns his head and closes his eyes. “We’re …….doomed,” he says, his voice fading fast. ”Doomed.”

    “Why, Can’, why?”

    “You … forget … mon ami. My powers … are drawn … from … the … nearest Guardian …and…………then …… enhanced……. Maple Leaf…….must……be….here…He’s….the…biggest…..Guardian …of…us…all……and….like …. his …team …………he ….. sucks…..big time…..And …now…..I……am.. too……only… worse.”

    A shadow envelops the helpless pair. The Scalper looms over them, about to collect a trophy from the mightiest superhero of all. He raises his ticket price and

    TO BE CONTINUED

    Episode Two: Curse of the Zamboni

  49. Shiloh says:

    How insightful.

  50. HabFanSince72 says:

    Todd is widely considered to be one of Nort America’s best sportswriters.

    You’re mistaking him for Michael Farber.

     

  51. HardHabits says:

    Figures you’d be into the poop scoop.

  52. HardHabits says:

    Nice catch.

  53. ZepFan2 says:

    You have Scott to be kidding me.

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  54. HardHabits says:

    Todd is the Gazette’s token draft dodger.

  55. patience is a virtue says:

    Chicken or Egg?  Tough Dec road games or brutal Dec slump?

    I’m not sure which caused which, but I am sure that outside of the terrible stretch from Dec 10-30 the Habs are one of the winningest teams in the league this season – at home AND on the road.  If the poor road performance in Dec was more slump than structure/if they do well on the road in Feb-Mar, little doubt can remain that they are contenders.

     

     

  56. ZepFan2 says:

    “He takes a stand on Ben the Rapist

    When was he convicted again?

    And thanks for the laff. Jack Todd and “good writing”, now that’s hilarious.

    Oh…you were serious…hahahahahahahahahaha

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  57. HabsFansince49 says:

    Not often I agree with every word a journalist writes about the Habs, but Jack Todd’s article on Gutless Gomez is right on.  He is a total embarrassment to the organization; thank God, we have many much better players and people.

  58. HardHabits says:

    Suck hot? Go amaze!

  59. Jordio-oh says:

    “But when you venture into the territory of critique of writing, even if you detest the ground he walks on, you must recognize Todd’s ability – there’s no argument about that unless you are totally ignorant of the subject.”

    I’m sorry, but that’s just not true. It isn’t. I don’t hate jack todd at all, i just don’t like his writing style. There are many many journalists that do what he does but they do it better. How should i recognize his ability when i don’t think there is much ability there to recognize? I understand he’s journalist for a reason, but beyond his position as a paid journalist for a reputable publication, there isn’t much more to recognize or celebrate. Nothing about Todd’s writing is clever and insightful. Its mostly just one-sided arguments for the purpose of provocation.

  60. Psycho29 says:

    The Gazette is a fantastic newspaper.

    But then Jock Toad turns it into the National Enquirer…

  61. Shiloh says:

    And are you our token Tourette’s?

  62. Shiloh says:

    Uh, no – nice fumble. you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

  63. Propwash says:

    Todd just loves to go with the flow. He was throwing Price under the bus last season, and this year, he admitted he was wrong. Kudos to him, but Jack Todd writes opinions more often than not rather than actual facts.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  64. HardHabits says:

    Unfortunately there are no translators that convert English into Idiot. You’re stuck wondering.

  65. Mark C says:

    Montreal has been a good road team minus the chicken or egg slump. I think their road record outside of the 9 road stretch is 11-4-1, I think this team should be at least okay on the road the rest of the way. Last year this team only won one more home than road game, then won some big playoff road games.

  66. Mark C says:

    If what Gomez did yesterday was a “total embarrassment to the organization,” what do you call what the guy in the middle of your picture did years ago?

  67. HardHabits says:

    Do even know what that means?

  68. The Cat says:

    zing!

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  69. avatar_58 says:

    Everyone bitches that Martin never yells at the refs – Gomez does and suddenly he’s the devil. What a bunch of hypocrites.

  70. Shiloh says:

    Oh – but there is a very simple way to produce idiocy. Just write under the byline HardHabits. Check the meds, bud – Tourette’s is manageable.

  71. andrewberkshire says:

    No kidding, its beyond ridiculous. At this point it doesn’t matter what Gomez does, whatever it is that action happens to be the worst thing he could do. Nevermind that he was our best forward on the weekend.

  72. andrewberkshire says:

    Game, set, match.

  73. fbkj says:

    okay mr. facts over opinions, please cite how “Todd is widely considered to be one of North America’s best sportswriters.” is “fact”?

  74. Shiloh says:

    Outside of hockey, Jack Todd is rarely as angry and bombastic as when talking about the Habs.

    Clearly you have missed his columns on the carpetbaggers Loria and Samson as well as those which addressed the numbskullery of Donald S. Cherry.

    Instead of admitting that he was wrong about Price’s potential, he claimed he was right in the first place.

    I suggest a re-read is in order here.

    I get it that you don’t like him, Andrew. Ok – deal with it. But suggesting that he can’t write – or even that he can’t write about hockey or stating that his writing skill in this regard is akin to the dregs of the blogosphere – these are sweeping claims for which you have no factual basis other than your opinion. You are entitled to your own opinion, of course, but not to your own facts.

     

  75. habs001 says:

    it will be a good season if we make the playoffs and win a couple of rounds…right now it looks pretty tough for us to win more than 2 rounds as our secondary scoring is non existent and what will happen in the playoff is that martin will have to over use our main forwards and they will be physically beat up by the third round…we have too many forwards that dont spread out their scoring and tend to have long l non scoring streaks…

  76. The Cat says:

    Buffalos been coming up quietly. I do think if Burke got smart and fired Wilson, youd see a marked improvement, leafs are spiritless now.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  77. andrewberkshire says:

    Be careful using the word Neo-con on this site, last time I used it I was called a Jew hater and a Nazi sympathizer by two posters.

  78. Shiloh says:

    And if you close your eyes when they interview him, you’d swear that it was Martina Navratilova answering.

  79. andrewberkshire says:

    When saying “hockey writing” and differentiating between that and his other writing, how is it even possible for me to be implying that his writing skill in itself is worse. Come on Shiloh, you’re better than this. It was very obvious that I was referring to tone and knowledge.

  80. Timo says:

    Oh… well… I’ll miss him anyway.

  81. Chris says:

    Wow.  That guy is truly amazing. 

    That stretch with the Sabres was other-worldly.  I’m not sure I’ll ever see consistent goal-tending like that again in my lifetime.

    Of course, I also stated that Terry Sawchuk’s career shutout record was untouchable, so what do I know?  :)

  82. HardHabits says:

    I meant to write >> farther reaches of either the left or the right

  83. ZepFan2 says:

    [Trum]

    PNAC…the Party of North-American Clowns?

    Nope, never heard of them. [winkgrin]

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  84. mbplekfan says:

    AK is full value for his contract. Its just that his potential is still unrealized. This makes posters here slag him.

    I agree that its going to be hard to part with an asset. But in order to get more than a Q leauge prospect or project AHL defenceman we will have to part with quality.

    I wouldnt give up on Pouliot yet either. I think that he could become part of a big, fast skating high scoring second line if paired with Eller and Pacioretty. I wouldnt part with any of those three.

    That leaves AK and Cammy.

  85. habstrinifan says:

    What do you folks think… Try hard to get J Iginla giving up anything but Price/Pleks/P.K/and maybe Pacioretty.

    Failing that try to get the duo.. only as a duo… of Crhis Neil and Chris Phillips from Ottawa….

    Failing that try and get Antoine Vermette from Columbus and a big, tough, utility player.

  86. habstrinifan says:

    Lots of talk couple weeks ago on Antichambre re Weiss. And also rumours from Eklund(dont say I believe Eklund).

    I hope JM is not pursuing Weiss. Nothing suggests he is anything but similar to the type of forwards that we currently have. Average points producing. And he is too small to set the tone of any game requiring pushback. And also wont command the room’s attention we need from the guy we next trade for.

    No Weiss please!

    I would love the pair of Chis Neil and Chris Phillips from Ottawa… unless we can get someone like Iginla.

  87. Habitoban says:

    Thats active Habs of course.

  88. 24 Cups says:

    HI/O posters like to talk about Regehr but I wonder if the Flames aren’t trying to make the playoffs this eyar.  There are about 11 teams that are no more than ten points apart out West.  I can’t see that many being sellers.

    If they do trade, I think they will be after a centre to go with Iginla.

    Cammy isn’t going to bring in any offers with his $6M contract.  I haven’t given up on Pouliot (who isn’t expensive), and I’m even starting to wonder about AK46.

    It’s funny how the game plays out.  AK and Gomez are my least favourite Habs but they are playing some great hockey right now.  Gomez was our best forward yesterday but it appears nobody agrees with me (I think the Todd article was written before the game was played).

  89. Habitoban says:

    And Benny is also second among active players in “Hits.”

  90. Mark C says:

    I would disagree about Montreal having an excess of forwards. By virtue of not have an elite number one line, Montreal counts on having three scoring lines just to gain enough offensive output. I don’t know why a team 25th in goals and 6th in goals against, should be trading forwards for defensemen unless there is another move made to bring in another forward (this is not to say the defense cannot/should be improved).

  91. 24 Cups says:

    Right now, Edm, Tor, NJ, Ott, the Isles and Florida are out of the playoffs. 

    I looked at their rosters and really couldn’t see anyone who would be able to log top six Dman minutes on a long-term playoff run basis.  I think you also have to keep in mind that the Wiz ain’t no wiz in his own end.  Whoever we bring in, will have to be able to cover up the turnovers and brain cramps.

    Maybe we should be looking at something bigger in terms of a deal where the incoming player may stay for more than just a few months.  We’re going to have to do a total defensive re-build next year so why not start now.  The only problem is that the price just went up when you are trading for a guy who isn’t a UFA.

  92. mbplekfan says:

    We have excess forwards when Cammaleri comes back and it may be time to trade him or AK to acquire the defenceman we need. Pouliot could be given top line minutes with either Gomez or Pleks and see how he fares for the rest of the season.

  93. mbplekfan says:

    I would suggest adding a big, bruising top four defenceman to play with wiz and use the Czechs as the bottom pairing in terms of minutes. Hammer and Spacek are very good if they are limited to 15 minutes a night.

    We need additional toughness on the back end (alas poor OB) and someone who can clear the crease. Someone like Robin Regehr.

    Then for next year we have Markov and the newcomer in the top pairing, Subban and Gorges in 3-4, and Wiz and Spacek in the bottom pair. Weber sent off in the trade of course.

  94. andrewberkshire says:

    As I already stated, if I was differentiating his hockey writing from other writing, how in the world is it even possible for me to imply that his overall writing skill is different from that when writing in a certain subject.

    Grow the **** up already.

  95. Mark C says:

    Right now he’s averaging 2 goals every 10 games, while just getting a mere 12 minutes a game. You are selling his upside way short.  Right now Benny is 3rd on the team in goals per 60 minutes, behind Gionta and Pleks. He is easily one of the most productive players on the team.  

  96. Shiloh says:

    My problem with him is in regards only to his hockey writing, which is about the quality of the dregs of the blogosphere.

    That is your direct quote. It reads that his hockey writing is about the quality of the dregs of the blogosphere. You are of course wise to back up and to suggest that what you really believe is that his tone lacks quality, but that’s not what you wrote.

  97. ZepFan2 says:

    “you ever see the bbc doc, the power of nightmares?”

    And it begins…

    ;)

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  98. fbkj says:

    CLEARLY YOUVE NEVER HEARD OF PNAC [angry10]

  99. 24 Cups says:

    Simply stated, that defense just isn’t good enough to win 16 playoff games.

  100. habs001 says:

    if we do damage in the playoffs it will be because of goaltending,pk,team d ,pp and clutch goals…i think it is time to realize the forwards we have on the team are no better than somewhere between 20th and 26th in the nhl in scoring…our scoring has remained in this position since the beginning of last year…

  101. HardHabits says:

    I agree. I’d also add that the Habs should move AK to the 4th line in Pyatt’s stead, send Eller to Hamilton and pick up a player like Iginla, as in a real bonafide power forward, for the top 6.

    How likely is that? That’s why I suggest tinkering where the Habs are weakest.

    The bottom 6 defensive pairing is really where the Habs need the most work. If one solid player can be brought in, a real stay at home bruiser, pair him with Wiz, put the old Czechs together and have PK with Gill and it doesn’t look so bad.

  102. fbkj says:

    oddly, pleks doesnt sound nearly as cartoonish as the others

  103. HardHabits says:

    Nice work by the 3rd liners. Imagine if the 4th liners could make that list.

    I think here-in lies the area where the Habs need the most work. Not the top 6 or the 3rd line.

     If the Habs could pick up a replacement for Pyatt, someone who can score, hit and bring good energy minutes, that IMHHO would put the Habs over the top and give them a chance to compete against even the Flyers. 4 lines that can score and play responsible defensive hockey with good team defence over-all and very good goal-tending and the Habs could very realistically go all the way.

    It’s not the top 6 where the Habs need help. It’s the bottom 3. Halpern is way solid. Moen, meh. At least he can score, is gritty and can fight. Pyatt. Love his speed and he’s very responsible defensively. Kid’s got stone hands, can’t pass, no hockey sense or offensive creativity.

    Replace him with a solid winger and the Habs look good. Or maybe not. When Cammy comes back the team upfront could very well be:

    Gio-Gomez-Pax

    AK46-Plex-Cammy

    Pouliot-DD-Darche

    Moen-Halpern-Eller

    That actually looks like 4 lines that could do damage.

    The defense looks weak in the bottom pairing though:

    PK-Gill

    Wiz-Hammer

    Spacek-Picard-Weber

    If the Habs don’t make a move, which I don’t suspect they’ll do, unless they send Eller to Hamiltion and get that scorer to replace Pyatt, then I figure the defense needs to spread the strengths and not stack all the weakness on the last defensive pairing. If Spacek shows up for the play-offs like last year than the Habs look good. That was after a lay-off, albeit injury related, so maybe he needs a rest soon.

    The best moves for the Habs  would be for some upscaling on the bottom 6 defense pairing and 4th line IMO. Strengthen the weakest links.

  104. andrewberkshire says:

    Perfect, now I have something to do while home sick this afternoon!

  105. fbkj says:

    lemme know what you think

  106. habs001 says:

    we have to have very solid goaltending,total team d ,great pk and we will have to have a very good pp…looking at our forwards stats from top to bottom this is a bad scoring team…and since we have kept our scoring pace pretty well the same over the last 150 games i dont see this group improving ..

  107. Mark C says:

    Don’t know how you can say that about the Bruins when they’ve only beaten Montreal once in the past year and a half. Montreal should be given a fair chance to beat any team outside of Philly.

  108. Jordio-oh says:

    haha, one of my favorite things about Hasek is his accent.

    Hasek, Jagr, Spacek. All great to listen to; gotta love those Czech accents.

  109. matrags says:

    stick to logic and the facts Chris it drives then crazy!!

  110. habs001 says:

    in mine opinion pouliot is a guy who can average 2 goals every 10 games…he does not get enough chances to score in games and when he gets good chances he is not a finisher…if we are happy with a third line player who scores 15 goals a year than we have pouliot..i really dont think he has any higher upside…

  111. fbkj says:

    you ever see the bbc doc, the power of nightmares? they have all the episodes up on youtube… they play it on cbc newsworld from time to time… freaky stuff… its a doc about the rise of the neo-conservative and radical islam movements and how they paralell one another

    oh its also about how full of sh[t all politicians have been the last few decades, its depressing, frightening and oddly relieving

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5lByw7kvS0&feature=fvst

  112. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    lol, thats getting told to the wifey when she get’s home.  she’ll luv it.

  113. SeriousFan09 says:

    Guy hasn’t been on CBC since the end of the 09-10 season, he was on RDS this season.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  114. Chris says:

    Oh, come now Timo.  I’m not THAT naive!  :)

  115. andrewberkshire says:

    I suggest a re-read is in order for my comment, as I said nothing about his skill. His knowledge of the game of hockey is neglible. He knows about as much as the average fan, and shows no interest in getting to know the players through his journalistic credentials so he has zero insights into the team. His tone is that of many of the angriest, least intelligent blogs on the internet.

    PS: Dan Chorra is a hockey topic.

  116. Shiloh says:

    Oh no – a leftist!!! Ok, my Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin-lovin, FUX News-watchin’ friend, I’m going to suggest that using the term “leftist” as a purported insult is quite revealing. Generally speaking, neo-cons are ridiculous. You have at least the good sense to cheer for that Habs.

  117. Chris says:

    Aw, you broke out the old gem!  Always liked that line. 

  118. HardHabits says:

    Ah yes, the cannibal troll.

    KYM rox!!

  119. Jordio-oh says:

    “We’ll see it every Monday for the rest of the year.  And the same next year.  Just like last year. ”

    Can’t argue with that.

     

  120. SeriousFan09 says:

    Dominic Hasek and his season in the KHL, he’s hanging in there at age 46 and he leads the KHL in Shutouts with 7.

    http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/06/the-hasek-interview-k-h-l-is-a-different-hockey/

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  121. Shiloh says:

    No – you clearly said his hockey writing was equivalent to what we could find in the dregs of the blogosphere. If you now want to modify that statement to refer to tone only, that’s fine. But don’t suggest I can’t read.

  122. The Cat says:

    Im going to go on a limb and say Ottawa beats Vancouver tonight.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  123. krob1000 says:

    Interesting note I read in Hockey News…not sure if it was posted here as I have been rarely able to post in the last week and a bit…..Benoit Pouliot leads the NHL in points in games in which he has played 14 minutes or less (17pts), Mathieu Darche is 4th (14pts). 

  124. Oddball says:

    John Roberts said “Pro Mubarak protesters” attacked the two reporters. What does this have to do with the left or the “freedom yearning people just like us” for that matter? Let me guess Tony, all the pro-Mubarak thugs are communists and lefties, right? Is Tony’s on the glue bag, again?

     

    ..always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves..

  125. andrewberkshire says:

    Why do parents allow their kids on youtube….

    THE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!!!

  126. Chris says:

    Habs are 9-7-1 in the game before a Jack Todd column, and 1-5-2 over the last 8 weeks.  Better?

    I’m not shocked that people go off on him, just the number of them.  I’m amused that we go through this routine every single Monday.  We’ll see it every Monday for the rest of the year.  And the same next year.  Just like last year. 

    Goalie controversies, Todd bashing and questioning coaches seem to be the primary past-times of HI/O posters.

    “You find the gripe-fests amusing in a similar way that i find the undeniable ”holier-than-thou” tone in your writing to be amusing, especially since you’ve returned from exile.”

    Touché.  Nice shot.

  127. Timo says:

    Just think of the amount of traffic it generated. Coincidence that the link to his article is there? Me thinks not :)

  128. fbkj says:

    weird, sure there are some prominent jewish neo-cons, but thats pretty silly

  129. Timo says:

    oh no… i am going to miss his 2-3 words he says during the CBC broadcasts

  130. HardHabits says:

    The journalists said they were beaten by Mubarrak supporters. Are those not members of the right-wing and not the democratic movement? At any rate, comparing the left, right, or whatever in Egypt to NA or Canada is ludicrous.

    Many people are neither left nor right but are centralist and see elements in both that have value and aim for synergy or a synthesis of ideas and solutions as opposed to dogma. It is at the farther reaches of either the left of the right that we see totalitarianism and facism. Along the way leanings towards either belies a tendancy towards the same.

    Not unlike the types of arguments your many pseudognomes produce.

  131. mbplekfan says:

    PG and the braintrust have likely thought long and hard about next year. We have Pacioretty, Gionta, Cammaleri, Kostitsyn, Pouliot, Eller and DD as tradeable forwards.

    Gionta is Captain so he stays. Pacioretty stays. Eller stays. That leaves Cammy, AK, Pouliot and DD as tradeable assets.

    On the defence we have Spacek, Hammer, Gill, Picard and Weber as tradeable assets. Weber has some value, whereas the other 3 are pretty low on the desirability scale and Picard is worthless.

    So Weber paired up with AK, Cammy or Pouliot with a second round pick becomes a pretty good package.

    Is it enough for a Regehr?

  132. andrewberkshire says:

    Yes, especially when the first person who responded claimed that the word neo-con was made up to disguise anti-semitism… Even when I explained the REAL origins of the word, and the political ideology behind it (politics is kind of my life) I was still met with the same BS. Gotta love internet experts.

  133. mbplekfan says:

    A couple of rounds? It will be a major triumph if we draw an opponent we can beat in a seven game series.

    Provided we dont draw Philadelphia we have a legitimate shot against a depleted Pittsburgh and a reasonable shot against the Capitals.

    Bruins and Philadelphia both are too big for us to seriously challenge on a nightly basis with the other team making adjustments to defeat our trap. Our defence is old and will wear down as the season and playoffs go on.

    We have an outside chance this year to do something in the playoffs but it relies on Carey Price and luck.

    After a serious rebuild of our defence over the summer next years team will be better constructed for playoff success.

  134. theremster says:

    cannot agree with Gomez playing a solid game. Don’t mean to flog a dead horse, but he’s just been terrible this year. His play is very predictable, ” skate the length of the ice, lose the puck or dump it to the corners to absoluetely no one, and then coast along and pretend to backcheck”. Not to mention that he doesnt seem to believe that hockey is at all a physical sport. He avoids physical situations like the plague. I understand he isnt big, but if you attempt to dodge hits costing the puck all the time, go play basketball. I dont know how he was signed for 8 million, what a horrendous waste.

  135. habs001 says:

    sabres lost in pitts friday and killed a rested leaf team on sat…the leafs on their recent road trip were playing their 4th game in 6 in san jose who was off the night before and the leafs played and the leafs scored 3 goals in the third in san jose to win…we keep using the excuse we played back to back…

  136. Chris says:

    double post.

  137. andrewberkshire says:

    Outside of hockey, Jack Todd is rarely as angry and bombastic as when talking about the Habs. Giving him props for talking about less ‘popular’ sports is entirely legitimate. My problem with him is in regards only to his hockey writing, which is about the quality of the dregs of the blogosphere.

    As for him admitting he’s wrong, I would give him props for it if it wasn’t always worded in a way that suggested that he was only temporarily wrong, or that he knew he was wrong the whole time, like his column on Price earlier in the year. Instead of admitting that he was wrong about Price’s potential, he claimed he was right in the first place. I think the fact that you can draw comparisons between Todd’s hockey writing and people posting on this website, says nothing good for Todd.

  138. Jordio-oh says:

    The habs have an identical winning percentage on the weekend (saturday and sunday games) as they do through the week.

    You find the gripe-fests amusing in a similar way that i find the undeniable ”holier-than-thou” tone in your writing to be amusing, especially since you’ve returned from exile.

    All in all, you said yourself that you understand why people dislike him, and its evident you understand the irrational and overreactive nature of the commentariat, so it confuses me why you are shocked at how many people here go off on him.

  139. fbkj says:

    you win

    what you win

    i am not sure

    but you did win it

  140. andrewberkshire says:

    I wasn’t attacking Chris, what I was doing was expressing my surprise at his admiration of Jack Todd’s tone, which is nearly always vitriolic hatred, when Chris rails against that kind of stuff on this website all the time.

    As for Jack Todd winning a National Newspaper Award, that doesn’t support your earlier claim at all, considering you said he was considered one of North America’s most respected sportswriters. Canada is just a tiny part of North America Shiloh, and winning one award in decades of writing isn’t exactly putting him in the same league as others in his field.

  141. HardHabits says:

    The ad HIOminem attack!!

  142. ZepFan2 says:

    Figures, damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  143. Shiloh says:

    That’s actually very good.

  144. Chris says:

    He’s a “What have you done for me lately?” kind of guy? I dunno…half the people in here seem to lose their shirts after every loss too. He’s just like the rest of us, he just has a better soapbox. :)

  145. ZepFan2 says:

    “It’s perhaps the lowest form of argument.”

    Yeah, not like using Tourette’s syndrome as a comeback.

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  146. fbkj says:

    this comming from mr. tourretes

  147. Chris says:

    I don’t go after people when they spew vitriol…I would never have time to post anything else. I go after them when they insult me or others. A message board is for discussion…kind of hard to discuss things when the other side is too busy insulting you to realize that both sides have valid points. A columnist is supposed to get people to read their columns…Jack Todd succeeds. Some people read because they like his writing or agree with him, and a lot seem to read so that they can carp about him until his next column.

    But I freely acknowledge the hypocrisy of it. Like I said, it isn’t my style but I enjoy reading his articles. I like that he tries to give the CFL some props. I love that, unlike most sports fans and journalists in Canada, he gives some attention to Olympic sport athletes outside the Olympic cycle.

    I definitely like that he continues to hold a grudge against Loria and Sampson. They are idiots.

    And I like that he admits to being wrong and a jerk frequently. That makes him different from most of us. :)

  148. Shiloh says:

    Come on, Andrew. Chris gives you several plausible arguments and a healthy dose of hard facts – and your response is an ad hominem attack? It’s perhaps the lowest form of argument.

    Fact – There is verifiable evidence that Todd is highly regarded by his peers. Fact – He is an award-winning journalist. Could you please deal with the argument that you are so badly losing without attacking the bearer of truth?

  149. ZepFan2 says:

    Very Kostitsynesque!

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  150. longbow says:

    Woman walking down the street and sees a guy walking a dog.She stops and says “nice pig you got there” Guy says “thats not a pig,that’s a dog” Woman says “I was talking to the dog !”

  151. ZepFan2 says:

    Fighting the trolls, I suppose.

    http://tinyurl.com/27b38b7

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  152. andrewberkshire says:

    He mentioned it, said it was flukey or lucky or something.

  153. fbkj says:

    well yeah… im at work what else do you expect me to be doing…?

  154. Oddball says:

    I don’t mean to burst your bubble, Don, but Tony doesn’t cheer for the Habs, he whines about them.

    ..always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves..

  155. ZepFan2 says:

    They went 1-1 over the weekend.

    Why no mention of the Rangers game then? The one where Gomez scored the gwg.

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  156. Trenton_Romulox says:

    And yesterday marks the first time I’ve seen the Habs not get at least 1 point out of a game when I’ve been in attendance. Darn, it was a good streak too! The Habs are now 9-1-1 when I’ve been in attendance in Boston and Montreal combined, 10-1-1 if you count preseason games. Let’s hope they can get a new winning streak goin’ for me this Saturday when I see them play the Leafs. Go Habs Go!

  157. andrewberkshire says:

    Chris, considering how often you complain about the vitriol on this particular internet message board, I find it very surprising that you would endorse that same writing style from a paid writer in a respected newspaper.  Seems to be about as hypocritical a stance as one could dream up.

  158. 24 Cups says:

    Guy Carbonneau is the new head coach of the Chicoutimi Sagueneens.

  159. observer says:

    He is a leftist first then he has a sports column. He would report about “freedom yearning people just like us” – but this is exactly who they really are who the left conviently ignores. Watch the video: – - – - http://video.foxnews.com/v/4526742/exclusive-fox-news-reporters-on-savage-beating-in-egypt

  160. Chris says:

    Since Jack Todd is such a great topic on here, here’s an article some of you might like, written around the release of “Taste of Metal”.

    http://www.aelaq.org/mrb/feature.php?issue=1&article=10&cat=1

    I’ve always liked Jack Todd, and I’m always shocked at how many people here go off on him. He’s a columnist, not a reporter. He basically writes his opinions, and generates reactions. He often says stupid things, and he is more aware of that than most.

    But I would challenge a lot of you to read your own posts sometimes and see how often your heat of the moment posts are over the top, just like Jack Todd’s. He often writes the things that I think at that particular moment…the difference is that I usually don’t write them down for the world to see. I usually hit the “X” up in the top of the right-hand corner instead of the “Post Comment” below the comment window. Todd just lets it slide. All the more power to him. It’s not my style, but I do appreciate the snark.

    I understand why people dislike him, but I do find the collective gripe-fests about his writing every week somewhat amusing.

    He has no credibility as a journalist.He has been nominated for and won national awards for his writing. I think the Gazette remain happy with him, given that they still give him a weekly soap-box.

    He only comes out of the woodwork when the Habs lose. He writes once a week, Mondays, like clockwork. The Habs just happen to lose on the weekends and he’s therefore in a surly mood. And a surly Todd is a caustic Todd.

    He deserted from the US Army during Vietnam. Doesn’t make him a bad guy necessarily…we don’t know what he knew at that time. My dad moved to Canada as a twenty-two year old in 1955 to dodge the draft in Denmark. According to some of you, that makes him a coward. He’d be okay with that…he knew why he did it and would make the decision a hundred times out of a hundred, despite that decision resulting in him only seeing his mother one more time and coming to Canada to start a new life with absolutely nothing: no job, no money and a new language. I’m biased, but I hardly call that cowardice.

    He doesn’t know anything about hockey. Well, arguably, neither do a lot of posting here, but that really hasn’t stopped us. Todd, unlike many of us, was actually a pretty high level athlete, competing in Division I athletics. So he does have some credibility as an athlete, even if his NHL knowledge has been gained from the couch or the press box, just like many of the rest of the journalists out there. Doesn’t make them any less credible…sometimes you need a viewpoint from outside the sport so you don’t get stuck with the sycophantic “rah-rah” stuff that you sometimes see from athletes that cross over to the broadcast booth.

  161. Hobie Hansen says:

    1) I enjoy reading, listening or watching the majority of TV, Internet or Newspaper reporters who provide us with NHL info on a daily basis. Jack Todd has always been one of a handful of guys I never make time for. He’s a reporter who’s never had a thing to do with the game of hockey except write a smart ass column about the Canadiens from some unknown location, probably drinking scotch on Sunday nights. If he’s interviewing a player or coach that’s great, maybe I’ll read it, but if it’s his opinion..WHO CARES!

    2) I’m not reading too much into the Habs loss yesterday, second game in as many AFTERNOONS, and besides the guys on the LTIR, they were missing Wisniewski and Cammalleri.

    3) Maybe Gomez was out of line and deserved to get tossed but if he and other players have to dive out of the way to avoid bumping a goalie that’s outside of his crease, then the goalie should not be allowed to bump or pick an opposing player. Stupid rule!   

    “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf” – George Orwell

     

  162. andrewberkshire says:

    Not to mention they have to have grit, jam, big body presence and an active stick.

  163. avatar_58 says:

    Flyers and Devils yes, but Pens? The habs beat the pens many times. Isolate Crosby/Malkin and you win.

  164. habstrinifan says:

    With all the injuries’ allotment I am sure we have the money to fit him in this year. And PG can reshuffle the cards in summer. I think a guy like Iginla this year makes us a contender.

    If you look at the league, the Cup may be up for grabs. I dont see Canucks being as dominant a team as their record shows and if we have Iginla, then we will be a different team when we play Philly.

     

  165. HardHabits says:

    Score more goals. Let fewer in.

  166. Chris says:

    He only writes on Mondays.  Not his fault the Habs like to lose their games on the weekends.

  167. volcano62 says:

    If we want the cup we need to defeat teams like Flyers, Devils, Pens etc……We need to study their game plan and figure out a way to win.

    Devils had a rough start but they are far from a shit team especially with Lemaire guiding the ship.

  168. Propwash says:

    Ever notice that Todd, more often than not, only chimes in after a loss?

  169. Ian Cobb says:

    BeDevilled by more than the Devils folks.

    We are starting to slip a little this past week. But not as bad as some may suggest. Other teams are now starting to get the injury bug now as well. This time of year the game picks up in speed and intensity.

    We have been hit with slow starting first period hockey, this has to be turned around. The season is becoming very short. I wonder if Gauthier and staff are going to make a move.?

     

    In a 30 team league, here is where we are placed this week over last week.

     

    Goals Against—-131,  We are in  6th place.   Last week we were in   4th place.

    Total points——-65,  We are in  9th place.   Last Week we were in   9th place.

    Goals For——–139,  We are in 22nd place.  Last week we were in 22nd place.

  170. fbkj says:

    few other things they need to do, they have to give it %110, play a full 60 minutes and take it one shift at a time

  171. The Cat says:

    Very interesting.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  172. fbkj says:

    WHAT

    ARE

    YOU

    TALKING

    ABOUT?

  173. ZepFan2 says:

    Dude, you’re wasting your time.

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  174. A. Berke says:

    Flames are chasing a playoff spot (they’re short of 1 point) and there’s no way (here on earth or in hell) that they’re going to trade him away. Besides where’s the money to keep him for next year?

    Just saying.

    Ali B.

  175. notbigbird says:

    I am forced to agree 100% with Jack Todd when he says, “I dunno. Maybe I’m crazy.”

    Yes, Jack.

  176. observer says:

    Todd learned all his hockey knowledge in Nebraska where the sport of ice hockey was founded!

  177. Rudy says:

    Emery has signed with the Ducks….

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  178. Storm Man says:

    No kidding, And he has the balls to talk about football like he knows what he is talking about. His insight about hockey is luke warm his take on football is of the charts.

  179. Cool Ice Price says:

    If Kessel is not happy in Toronto or with Wilson (Ron is an A$$ anyway, there are probally many players on that team that can’t stand him) Burke needs to get rid of Wilson. A GM can’t give away 4 top picks for a player then trade him.

  180. fbkj says:

    oh god that would be epic

  181. arcosenate says:

    Apparently Kessel said something to the effect that it’s not working out for him in Toronto. Imagine if he is looking to get traded! Brian Burke has made a real fool out of himself. And given the Boston Bruins such an advantage over everyone in the division. Thanks alot blow hard.

  182. The Cat says:

    I cant stand Wilson just by looking or listening to him. Im surprised no one has punched him out.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  183. kempie says:

    Todd is a knob.

  184. Barts says:

    Jack Todd speaks the truth again, and says what every other media member tied to the team is afraid to.

  185. Cool Ice Price says:

    Get rid of JM then.

    That was what the Habs should have done to Trembly & Roy would have retired a Hab!

  186. bigdave says:

    Certainly not JM!

    Kessel would be a JM nightmare!

     

     

    “The Allo Police Media – a collection of bitter ex-coaches, players and wannabees whose collective lack of success accounts for their present positions in Sports’ equivalent of a Jerry Springer Show”

  187. Cool Ice Price says:

    Would anyone swap Gomez for Kessel?

  188. Cool Ice Price says:

    He’s better than Gomez.

  189. HabFab says:

    Thank you! This place can go negative fast.

  190. JF says:

    Arpon Basu on 2011 stats is a great read to chase away negative feelings after yesterday’s loss.

  191. SmartDog says:

    As usual Jack Todd is jumping aboard a train that’s already under full steam.  But his point about Gomer taking stupid penalities is true.  He’s been an ass lately.  Dumb penalties every game or two.  Puffing his chest out like he’s some veteran superstar. 

    I am sure it hurts the ego to see that every winger on the team gets excited to play with Pleks because their stats go up… but deal with it Gomer.  Just deal.  Or you’re even a more sorry sumbeetch than I thought you were.

    “It bothers me…there are old coaches in the league today that don’t know how to deal with these young personalities.” – Mike Peca on JM handling of PKS

  192. jimmy shaker says:

    17:21 of ice time…..even +/- and 2 assists. Assisted on Vinny’s game winner and played all his minutes from the back end.

    Shaker

  193. HabFanSince72 says:

    … Nancy Pilosi …

     

    He also lists Yvon Cournoyer as his favourite Hab.

     

  194. HabsFanInTampa says:

    “Toad needs a one way ticket to Pyongyang so he can comiserate with his fellow countrymen and ideological soulmates Nancy Pilosi and Harry Reid at North Korea University’s  J. Stalin School of Business”. Comrade, WTF???

  195. HabsFanInTampa says:

    I wasn’t much of a MAB fan when he played for the Habs and am glad we released him. But, he actaully looked good on the ice yesterday afternoon. I’m not sure, but I think MAB was credited with two assists yesterday.

  196. jimmy shaker says:

    After the devils scored first, I’m glad I turned off the game and turned on the bolts/blues game. MAB helping tampa win was a way better game than the habs/devils. From the reads on here and the highlights, it looked like a snooze fest, a game the devils love to play. Here’s looking forward to the cubs on wednesday.

    Shaker

  197. HabFanSince72 says:

    In defence of the New Jersey Devils

    1. They are not Bettman’s favourite, even if he does attend games incognito with his grandson. The idea that their success comes from holding and interfering while the refs look the other way is idiotic. Remember how badly they got screwed by the league over the Kovalchuk contract? How come Chicago and Detroit get to do it, but NJ gets fined a first rounder when they try?

    2. They don’t win “because of the trap”. They win because they have great scouting and player development, and a top-notch organization at every level. And because they only want one kind of player: the kind who works on every shift. Bob Gainey was right to try to pattern his Habs on Lamoriello’s team.

    3. Most of you don’t remember the Canadiens before they became a brand. But in those days Jacques Lemaire and Larry Robinson were our heroes.

    4. Lou Lamoriello would be a Hab fan if he could. You know he would.

     

  198. shootdapuck says:

    Toad taking shots at his favorite targets; players who make over the minimum wage.

    As if anyone normal would turn down an offer of 8 mill per “because I’m afraid I don’t deserve it and it will upset Toad of Toad Hall”!

    Toad needs a one way ticket to Pyongyang so he can comiserate with his fellow countrymen and ideological soulmates Nancy Pilosi and Harry Reid at North Korea University’s  J. Stalin School of Business.

    Why doesn’t he focus on Derek Jeter at 22 million per and poor results.

     

     

     

    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  199. longbow says:

    It’s lonely at the top !

  200. The Cat says:

    I think athletes do pay attention, or I should say, they at leats get a whiff of it from relatives or friends etc.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  201. HardHabits says:

    That’s impossible. Nobody can be right all the time, especially when I’m always right.

    Nice try though.

    The nerve.

  202. Timo says:

    I don;t like to argue. Besides, what’s the point when I am always right anyway?

  203. HardHabits says:

    Timo is HIO’s token argument dodger.

  204. HabsFanInTampa says:

    …………..since 1967

  205. HabFanSince72 says:

    Yeah, but they’re only two years from seriously challenging for the cup. Just ask their fans.

     

  206. F Bomb says:

    Let us take a moment in bask in the fact that the Toronto Maple Leafs are in a whirlwind of hurt, despiration and despair. 

  207. Mark C says:

    To get 90 points the NJD would have to go 23-4-2, and this year it’s looking like it will take more than 90 points get into the playoffs.

  208. geo_habsgo says:

    Assuming 90 points is generally what will gain you a date to the playoffs, can’t Jersey technically do it if they keep up this play? Granted, they need about 50 points in their last 31 games but isn’t it possible with the way they have been playing lately? I know how far fetched it is lol so don’t bite my head off but it is going to be fun to see them play spoiler for everyone in the league from now on (unless its against the Habs!).

  209. patience is a virtue says:

    Bang on.   Lol, fanatics and peewee brains are us.

    Sure Gomez could be better for his salary, but he is still a big part of this team on the ice and off.  Currently making up for an even slower than usual start.  He will probably play a lead role down the stretch and into the playoffs.

  210. CBrady12 says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I completely agree with you,  I hate Todd and his style of “journalism” if thats what you want to call it. As you said, he writes things in order to get the reaction you guys are giving him. Thats his goal, and we play right into his hands because the comments are up, page views are probably up, pages views to his article are probably high and that is good news to the Gazette…

  211. SeriousFan09 says:

    I read the article by accident this afternoon as I was visiting Puck Daddy and they had a thing on Gomez relating to what the hack wrote and I didn’t realize who they were referencing until I saw the comments so I came on here to vent.  I keep telling myself not to get involved in too many useless arguments around here but honestly… this guy getting paid for this nonsense riles me a bit too much sometimes.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  212. olematelot says:

    Right friggin on brother!!!!

  213. CBrady12 says:

    You have to understand something. You are writing to a segment of the population who spend an unreasonable amount of time on a website where they write about a hockey team they have no control over. Does this seem like normal behavior to you? A good portion on this site are not fans but fanatics. You can tell by some of the posts you read. I mean a majority of them have no rhyme or reason and are based purely on emotion rather than rational thought. 

    You don’t need to explain the value of Gomez to anyone who has ever played the game at a level higher than peewee. 

  214. joeybarrie says:

    Ok, so I get quite frustrated with the Bashing of our players. I wonder why we hate guys on our own team? I wonder why we bash our OWN, and I think we might have a REAL sickness…

    What frustrates me most about Jack Todd, and his druids on here….

    Gomez has 19 points in the last 24 games. Probably the most important of our season as it started just after Markov went down for the season and just before Gorges went down. He is winning 50% of his face offs.

    This compared with Gionta’s 10 points in his last 25. Now every single one of those is a goal, and who do you think passed him the puck in MOST of those… Yet Gio gets a pass, and Gomer is bashed.

    DO THE MATH ON THOSE NUMBERS BY THE WAY…. But I forgot, some ONLY care about scoring. As if the players who score single handedly steal the puck from the opposition, beat everyone and slide it into the net with absolutely NO support from their teammates.

    By the way Pleks has 18 points in his last 25…

    in our last 24 games we are 12-4-6 and have taken 28 points. We have scored 61 goals and GOmez had a hand in almost one third of them… LESS SO PLEKS, yet Gomez is the TERRIBLE one on our team… I MEAN HOW DUMB CAN YOU BE?

    The guy has 7 goals, yet 2 of them are Game winners… YET HE WAS LUCKY ON BOTH his game winner against NYR, and the assist he got on Subban yesterday. AND THE BEST PART IS TODD BASHED GOMEZ FOR AN UNLUCKY ASSIST AND FRIKEN PRAISES PK WITHOUT ANY MENTION THAT HIS GOAL WAS LUCKY. TALK ABOUT BEING BIASED…. Yet of course, no one sees it, cause Todd tells it like it is… Keeps it REAL…. WAKE UP. HE IS FRIKEN DON CHERRY.

    GOMEZ IS A ZERO, he set up our ONLY goal yesterday and scored the Game winner against NYR… HOLY RIDICULOUSNESS BATMAN…. Are you serious????? WE WON IN NY on his goal. A HUGE GAME for us on a BIG BIG four pointer. Yet BASH ON BASH ON BASH ON….

    You honestly call yourselves fans? Waiting with your pitchforks to burn down his house…. It’s pitiful. Look at the difference since he has been here.

    It’s a TEAM thing, and he is a HUGE team player.

    AND to finish off, Gomez is smart enough to know WHEN to take a penalty like that… Again with his praises of PK in an article talking about penalties…. Do I have to point out the obvious??? Probably…

  215. Mark C says:

    I got a kick out of the lucky goal thing too. Pretty much all NHL goals have some element of luck involved, some more so than others. Think of the goals yesterday, Zubrus is lucky he didn’t get called for holding. Kovy II goal was a great tip-in, but how often does a tip like that result in a goal, I don’t know but I’m sure it’s below 50%. The Zajac goal, the puck took what looked to be a perfect bounce onto his stick, if the puck bounced a foot in a different direction maybe he doesn’t score. 

    Luck or the bounces of the game, whatever you want to call it, play a role in the majority of NHL goals.

     

  216. HardHabits says:

    Hahahahahahaha. So true!!!!! It’s awesome.

  217. Rudy says:

    Lovely day here at HIO after a loss and a Jack Todd link.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  218. CBrady12 says:

    Every time i see one of your comments I laugh…for a couple of reasons…

    1) After being banned from a WEBSITE, instead of finding something else in life to do, you come crawling back, I mean if there every were a definition for the word LOSER…

    2) It is so blatantly obvious that you know nothing about the game

    3) you think your schtick is so original because you always have a cynical point of view about pretty much everything. You think it makes you seem real and cool…to put it in the words of the late great George Carlin “you ain’t cool, you’re fuck!n’ chilly, and chilly ain’t never been cool”

  219. OneTimer says:

    Timo, what good does calling Gomez out in the press do? Do you think he (or any other pro athlete) pay close attention to what’s said about them in the media? By the way, it appears you have a lot in common with Jack Todd. Apart from the Gomez hate, both of you love to spew inanities and hateful drivel as if they were actually meaningful contributions to discussion. Have a nice day :)

  220. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    C’mon man, tell us how you really feel.

  221. Timo says:

    Haha… how did I know I would walk into a Gomez love fest once I saw “Jack Todd on Scott Gomez” headline? Lol. Gomez is great, Gomez is fantastic, Gomez is everything we ever wanted, Gomez is precious.

    Finally somebody in the Mtl media called out Gomez on his performance. More articles like these needed. I mean, would it NOT be helpful if he say… hmm… i don’t know… scored yesterday? Or in any other  40 some games that he hasn’t?

    Gomez is useless overpaid bum that only at his best when the camera’s are rolling and reported whip out their little notebooks to capture another wise-a$$ comment from him.

  222. SeriousFan09 says:

    Jack Todd for a three-legged mule, steal of the decade.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  223. observer says:

    Will Gauthier make a trade before the trade deadline - just 21 days from now?

  224. CBrady12 says:

    The guy writes whenever he thinks he can stir the pot regarding the Canadiens”

     

    and you all fall for it hook, line and sinker…EVERY time

     

  225. SeriousFan09 says:

    You can always count on Jack Todd to bravely come out and call out a player he doesn’t like long after criticisms of that player have come out so he can write his *ahem* unique criticisms of that player and wrap up it in his own self-righteous way while he pretends that he gives a damn about the Canadiens when they aren’t giving him material to come up with his own self-righteous, flawed insights.

    If Habs were to win say, the first round of the playoffs based off 12 points by Gomez, Todd will be right back on the bandwagon because it suits him. The guy writes whenever he thinks he can stir the pot regarding the Canadiens. The average Habs blogger has better insight into the team than he does.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  226. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I think that since Carey has been playing lights out this season Jack has had to focus the crosshairs on a new target.  Whether you like him or not Gomer will always be the easiest guy to pick on.  Hopefully G-Love has a strong performance in the playoffs,  then it will be harder for Jack to hate his contract.

  227. Shiloh says:

    Such originality, wit and insight – and sooooooo funny too. You’re just a perky little pepperpot when you’ve got a hate on. Remember your meds.

  228. Timo says:

    just cause I am nice I will help you out here… “couple” means 2 not 1, 2, 3. You’re welcome.


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