Randy Cunneyworth stressed he didn’t want to use it as an excuse, but Tomas Plekanec stayed home many of the Canadiens who dressed were under the weather against Dallas Tuesday night.
Which partially explains a 3-0 pasting at the hands of the Stars.
The loss dropped the Canadiens to 14th place in the Eastern Conference.
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Just outta curiosity, what would it take to trade for a guy like Chris Stewart from the Blues.
I just want to see what we could get with the group of available players we have. Another power forward who plays like he cares will only benefit the team (Please no more Bourques)
OK So there excuse for there brutal play last night was the FLU.So what is there excuse for the rest of the games so far.?
There’s a doc on hockey (More than just a game) on Mountain Lake PBS tomorrow night at 9 P.M., if anyone is interested.
Richard R
If the Hawks ask for Pleks, then get draft picks and prospects.
Rumors around Chicago they are going hard after a top end center. If it is Pleks, what do you ask for in return?
Draft picks and prospects.
If they want a top line center from us shouldn’t they be asking for DD?
sure DD for Niinimaa
Seabrook and a 1st round pick
Mark Mcneill + Stalberg + 1st
I’ll take Toews & Keith if you don’t mind
The tank is back on!
Gary Carter story:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/23/sports/baseball/to-the-palm-beach-atlantic-baseball-team-carter-was-simply-skip.html?ref=sports
No offence to anyone, but the last couple of days I have been thinking that Scott Gomez.. you know.. is a bit overpaid.
Perhaps a tad. : )
I think now you are just exaggerating things James.
Not just a smidge?
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Uh? Why would you think that?
Welllll, look who’s alarm went off!
hahaha
Gomez should calculate how much he ripped off the fans and cut a cheque everyone who bought a ticket to watch his shitty playing. He should also make a public apology followed by the announcement that he is retiring.
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“Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
I can’t believe I missed this milestone!
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15,000 minutes and counting
Thursday, 16.02.2012 / 5:13 PM
Bet you didn’t know
The first 60 seconds of Wednesday night’s second period against the Bruins may have seemed to most like just another minute of hockey. For Carey Price, it marked yet another milestone in his already illustrious young career.
By the time those 60 seconds had expired, the Canadiens’ goaltender became only the fifth netminder in the history of the NHL to have logged 15,000 minutes of ice-time before blowing out the candles on his 25th birthday cake. Besides Price, only Harry Lumley, the legendary Terry Sawchuk, Tom Barrasso and ex-Habs goalie Jocelyn Thibault attained the plateau before the age of 25.
Price, who will only celebrate his 25th birthday on August 16th of this summer, will have a hard time rewriting the records books before reaching a quarter-century of age, seeing as Lumley had already played a staggering 25,000 minutes of NHL hockey by the same point in his life.
Well done Carey!
OH OH I’M GETTING FIRED UP AGAIN BRING ON THE CAPS
They Call Me Shane
Impressive
Thanks for passing this along. Price is not only gifted with great skill but he is a workhorse. Imagine as the team gets better, D settles down and forwards actually achieve puck possession …
Man oh man, I can’t read any of the articles in the Gazette website. It says I’ve surpassed my quota for the month. Who charges for a newspaper site? Why bother putting links on a Habs site for hockey news, if you can only read them until you hit the quota? I didn’t want to have to find another Habs site, but if I can’t even read the articles they put links to, I’ll have to. Does anyone else have this problem?
Just clear your cookies, or hit the stop button on your browser before that subscription thing pops up.
I’ll try, I like this site. I want to be able to read all the articles it has links to. Thanks alot, I appreciate it.
This might be a better trick:
Click on the article that you want to read and when it comes up, quickly copy and paste it into a text editor, wordpad or notepad. Voilà! Click on the offending advert button and start all over again.
Richard R
Hey if we really want to rebuild can you imagine if this happened. Columbus, Edmonton and Montreal place 123 after the lottery draft. Montreal trades Price to Columbus for the number 1 pick, then we trade Subban and Weber to Edmonton for the number 2 pick. We select Yakupov, Grigerenko and Forsberg then move up with one of our picks to select Vasilevski or Dansk. If Thrower from the Saskatoon Blades is still around later on then grab him. He is my sleeper pick. Imagine what the bulldogs would look like if they all went to Hamilton for one year. Gallagher, Kristo, Bournival, Yakupov, Grigerenko, Forsberg, Holland, Geoffrion, Tinordi, Beaulieau, Dietz, Thrower, Pateryn and Ellis. Just to name a few. That would be a sick team. We might have lost Subban but we are deep in defensive prospects and we could always sign a UFA defenseman. Wow!!
Wow indeed… We’d have no goalie and a piss-poor defense. We’d be the Oilers of the East.
“There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
- Jerry Maguire
Its called “rebuilding”. The big club would suck for a year but imagine the next ten.
Good thing you’re not the GM.
Since 2005, Edmonton has drafted the likes of:
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Taylor Hall
Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson
Jordan Eberle
Sam Gagner
Andrew Cogliano
And they still suck balls. We are trading away two cornerstones of our organization for two potential stars.
“There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
- Jerry Maguire
We started rebuilding 2 years ago with Subban. Do you want to rerebuild
I’m sure many of seen this already, but LeBrun wrote an article on PK for ESPN. Good read.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/7602672/montreal-canadeins-defenseman-pk-subban-just-being-pk
I had not, thanx for sharing, a great read!
Lots of posts about Desharnais. I really like his game, but it could be he’s getting a little worn down right now – it’s his first full NHL season. When you consider as well that Cole is palying a bit hurt, it’s no wonder his numbers in the past few weeks are down.
I’m not sure what the upside is on DD but he sure is a nice player to have. Also, it might do Cole some good to put him with Pleks and Darche for a few shifts and let Darche do the hard corner work – might be a good tonic a couple of times a game.
Some of you might be too young, but the most loathed player for any Hab fan in the 80s was Dale Hunter.
He seems to be a big part of the problem in Washington. This is what he had to say about Roman Hamrlik, who he is benching tonight (despite his being +11 since Hunter took over):
“We want him to be a defensive defenseman,” Hunter said. “He’s giving up too many chances so he’s out of the lineup. Giving up too many, took a bad penalty last game and so we’re going to put someone else in.”
Tremendous psychology there. Say what you will about the Hamr, but he’s a solid guy. No sense in humiliating him like that.
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The blame, it’s being shifted.
Backstrom Injury, Green injury, Semin and Ovi mailing it in… what a mess… and it all started with JMs system taking them down a peg/// A WHOLE PEG!
Perhaps Hunter is trying to fast track his return to the London Knights in time for the OHL playoffs?
Hunter received a lot of praise for his coaching of the London Knights and his positive impact on player development. I am sure it was well deserved but the NHL is a different beast and the Capitals are a messed up team.
That being said, I remember his ugly helmet and his even uglier face under it and those insane eyes … he might be the player that I reviled most and I think he would have eated Brad Marchand for a snack and then use Marchand’s stick to pick the left over bits out of his teeth. And then used that to spear Chara in the family jewels.
You description of Hunter is a classic, I got a good laugh
There were a lot of skeptics regarding Hunter, that his style would not play out well in the NHL. That being a career successful junior coach, who happens to own the junior franchise, would not translate into success at the NHL level. Those skeptics seem to be right on the money. That is the same fear I have if the Habs hire Patrick Roy.
A good example of why coaches should not come directly from the OHL to the NHL. There is a big difference between coaching amateur boys vs professional men. It wouldn’t surprise me if he loses the room with moves like that. I guess time will tell. This is why Roy needs at least a year in the AHL or as an assistant in the NHL before coaching in the NHL.
Why does this team always end up with the flu every year??
Do they need to hire a virus, or bacteria exterminator to sterilize Centre Bell? I think they have a case of the “stupid, lazy-ass, not earning your money, raking fans over the coals, better get a pair of blockbuster trades done” flu….from the owner on down.
I’m sure Darcy Tucker is enjoying retirement according to Cap Geek he is collecting one million dollars a year from The Leafs till 2013/2014…….
brad marchand reminds me of tucker. Hopefully brad will also end up being unwanted and cast away.
But without the money part.
I wish my boss would sign me to a long term front loaded deal… I swear I would do my best, and work as hard as I did in my “contract year.”
Only teams that are not the Habs have first line centers.
Right?
I’m pretty sure there are 30 of them in the league.
Not according to this place.
Shiram, I think as DD continues to develop he has a very high up side. I remember Patches calling him the best player he’s ever played with. The thing I like best about him is he seems to create open ice for other players. Kind of like what Gomez did before he became, well, uh, Gomez.
Max had not played with many nhl calibre centers at that point… Gomez and DD basically!
I would argue that there are only 10-15 high end top line centers in the NHL.
Agree.
Jeez, I just mentioned below that I like DD, I think that the “Cole line” as it stands is a solid NHL second line and that Max Pac and Cole could be wingers on a high end NHL top line with a different center. That makes me a DD hater apparently. I actually like him, but if you look in depth at the numbers, he and Eller are very similar (PP aside) while Eller has had to play with much less talented players.
why 10-15 why not 30..why not 5 or maybe just 1 high end center? If you look at 10th in terms of points (thornton) and 11th (kopitar) is there a huge divide that seperates them? If we had kopitar would you be clamouring for a #1 center?
Bergeron 15th has FOUR more points that DD. Is that huge to you?
Points? are you kidding me? I would trade two DD’s for Bergereon, among the leagues best in faceoffs (especially d-zone, both forehand and backhand) He can shoot a puck, DD’s shot would be 4rth or 5th at best on my rec team. If you even consider DD as being on par with Patrice, the player that took most of the biggest faceoffs in Canadian Hockey history (2010 Olympics on home soil) as well as leading an almost perfect PK. He is also 6’1″ 200lbs.
Also, I love watching DD, I think he brings a lot to the team, but he is far from a complete player. i think he has not yet hit his ceiling, but I will not for a moment consider him as a number 1 center on a club that wants to compete for a cup.
actually it is more like 6 DD’s for one bergeron given the cap hit
Do you really think that DD is a Number 1 center on a cup contending team? Right now he is a No 1 on a lottery pick team. And, arguably the 3rd best center on his team. But I like him, I am just not going to consider him a No 1. If LA’s GM though as highly of him as you, I’d deal him in a second for Jack Johnson.
We could have had Kopitar but we drafted a goalie 5th overall. Kopitar went 9th.
Krejci has very similar numbers to Pleks, yet Pleks is always said to be at best a 2nd line center.
If Krejci is a first C, Pleks is too.
Is DD good or not? Answer – darn tootin’ he is
Is he a #1 center? I think people have different definitions of #1 center. DD is currently the 22st ranked center in terms of points.
how many #1 centers play in the NHL today?
I think there should be 30 #1 centers but that’s just me (and probably a bunch of other guys too).
#1 centers need to play with top line wingers, so saying its all Cole and Max is like twisting the truth a little.
DD is ranked higher as a starting center than Price is ranked as a starting goaltender.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
By that logic which NYI goalie is a number #1 goalie that then every team would want to have as their number 1 goalie. Same for Toronto, same for Columbus, etc….
lol
Evgeni Nabokov with a .925 save % – not too shabby – 8th in the league among regularly played goalies. Better than Price
A goalie by himself does not win games. NYI is proof in dat!
can’t compare them, Price has played 23 more games
I know, for the record, I really like DD, but I just can’t call him an elite center is all. In a perfect world the Habs would have an elite Center.
I agree Burl – but DD is a rookie.
He’s played slightly fewer games than Tyler Seguin (and has the same points total).
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I’ll reiterate something I mentioned down below. Even strength, DD is only slightly more productive then Eller with their respective wingers.
There are lots of different things to think about. Eller’s maturity, line Chemistry and such before I would just make a blank statement that Eller should take DD’s spot. It is a curiosity though.
maturity – or more specifically hockey maturity is what is holding eller back most IMO. Hopefully as he develops he will have a chance to produce like DD does today and provide results. Eller is a big boy too. If he develops into a top 30 center then we might not need to go out and trade for one.
wouldn’t it be nice to have more than one top 30 center. We could potentially have 3 with pleks, DD and Eller (ok, I know a bit of a pipe dream but 2 is not unreasonable).
Some teams have two no. 1 centers, like LA (Kopitar, Richards) or Pittsburgh (Crosby, Malkin). Boston has three (Krejci, Seguin, Bergeron).
Same with goalies. Some teams have more than one legitimate NHL starter – Halak/Eliot, Luongo/Schneider, some teams only have backups – like Toronto.
DD is decent with great wingers, put him on the third linie with guys like Moen and Darche or Leblanc and see what he does. I’d convert him to wing and get a big boy to play number 1C
The Caps have put Hamlrik on trading block according to several reputable sources including Ren Lavoie. I do not want to see him to be Habs again.
The re-signing of Ruutu by Carolina means AK46′s trade value has raised dramatically.
Blues are apparently interested in the Hamr.
Let them have him!
If the habs want to keep AK we are going to have to pony up now some serious coin. What the heck was Carolina thinking. What a stupid contract
and just think; the Habs will soon own that contract when Rutherford figures he made a mistake, he will be dialin’ PG.
So Ovie leaves bench last game and comes back for 3rd, later called equipment issue. Yesterday he is given practise off for maintenance day and is game time decision for Washington’s game tonight.
Any chance Hunter threw a glass ashtray at Ovi ala Pat Burns?
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=388526
I’m pretty sure Ovie is basically fed up for playing with the Caps. I really wonder how he’d do in a Habs jersey though…..
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Come let him play with his best friend Markov and let’s find out…
Are they buddies?
hehe you haven’t seen them on the yacht.
They Call Me Shane
oh yeah:
OV and Markov
I had completely forgotten about that photo, thnks guys!
Well, it’s obvious PG would catch flak for trading to get Ovechkin. I’m figuring if the guy wants out, give Washington the 1st pick and throw Gomez in a hockey bag and ship him out there to clear the cap space….
The team doesn’t give Ovie a letter just yet, maybe an A later on in the future, but not the C. I have a hunch he would start lighting it up again in Montreal.
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I’m looking at a mock draft, and the names being thrown around for the upcoming draft really don’t jump out at me.
http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/
As it stands, the logical choice would be another d-man Mathiew Dumba, or a centerman by the name of Alex Galchenyuk.
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Galchenyuk might be a bit of a gamble as I have understood it, but I’ve seen a highlight compilation of his and I was more then impressed. I was thinking if I had any type of say in strategy, I would somehow try and put a package together to try and draft him and Branden Gaunce, seems he’s moved up a few ranks since I last saw him floating around the mid 20′s though.
With Dietz, Beaulieu, Tinordi and.. there is another d man in the system that is projected top 4 as well, I would say its time to focus on that big center
A mock draft usually just has your team draft the player at the corresponding draft ranking to your team’s pick position. Hence this draft has us taking Dumba. I’ll admit, there is something alluring about having Dumba and Subban. And there is the theory that you take the best player at your pick position and if that means you end up with a warehouse of D-men then, hey, trade for your needs.
Nice theory but with the dearth of good centres I would rather see the Habs trade up to take Grigorenko or down to get Faksa.
The Habs gambled on taking AK with his medical issues and I just cannot see them rolling the dice on Galchenyuk. Of course, that does not mean it will not happen.
Edit: AK had a medical problem while Gal. is injured. I just find the fact that he has not played this year to be troublesome.
He tore his ACL which is an easier injury to recover from when you’re young. He will have also had almost a full year to rehab it before training camp, and I would not expect MTL to rush him.
Not having developed on ice for the year, and the Yak connection as you point out below … just would feel that much safer with trading up for Grigo but then how often do things work out for the Habs? I mean, Price was a real nice bonus but truthfully most of us were dying for that number one pick for Crosby. : ) Ah well, to dream. Whatever happens, the idea of either of these two guys developing in Ham. with Gallagher or Kristo on a wing is soothing.
Grigorenko may even be NHL ready next season, maybe. Galchenyuk does have a stigma around him but you watch some of his high lights and he gets you excited. He’s a risk/reward player.
“Dummy” and “Stupid”an…..that’s just what we need. Too many stupidos, and squirts on the team already.
New Rule: You must be over 200 lbs. and be over 6′ tall(without skates) to play for Les Canadiens.
There are three players in the draft that could be potential game breakers. Yakupov, Grigorenko, and Galchenyuk. The risk with Galchenyuk is that he hasn’t played at all this year and his stellar year last year may have been because he was on a line with Yakupov. The safe choice for would be Grigorenko over Galchenyuk, alhough Galchenyuk could be a huge steal. Gaunce is nothing special. He’ll go around 15. Faksa is the other center that could possibly go in the top 10. Big, strong playmaker that is humble and mature. He is apparently rocketing up the charts recently.
Most of the top 10 will be defensemen. Murray was expected to be the top dman out there but Dumba (Subban reincanate) has recently taken over that spot.
So lets hope for Grigorenko, be excited for Galchenyuk, and be happy with Faksa. If those three are gone then take the next best player which will either be Forsberg or a defenseman.
How about Forsberg? The name alone makes one salivate.
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I don’t know how to gauge players playing in the Swedish elite league because I’m not familiar with it. He puts up less than a point per game in Sweden and I don’t know if thats because he’s so young, or if it’s because he isn’t really all that skilled. I assume he’s pretty good. Anyways, he’s supposed to be a winger, and I’m more focused on centers.
Generally speaking a lot of Swedish players do put up lower numbers than CHL guys just because they are playing against older, more experienced players.
As per the hockey news article which I’m pretty sure everyone has read.
http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/44937-The-Hot-List-The-next-Foppa.html
Filip Forsberg, RW – Leksand (Swe.)
Though 2012 is only two months old, it’s been a pretty good year for Forsberg. He kicked off the campaign by helping Sweden to its first world junior gold in 31 years, then went over to Finland a month or so later and took a Five Nations tourney title back with him. “Two great tournaments,” Forsberg said. “I hope it continues with the under-18s in April.”
That would give the budding scorer a rare Tre Kronor trifecta and the fact he already has two wins to his credit is part of the reason some NHL GMs think the Swede could go as high as second overall in the draft this summer. The kid’s got size (6-foot-1, 181 pounds) and great hands, but also knows he can work on his skating. “I think I could be quicker,” Forsberg said. “Both at the beginning of my stride and when I’m at top speed.”
A faster Forsberg (no relation to Peter) is a scary notion indeed, especially since scouts love his complete game already. Though he seems like a sure thing to come over to North America next season, Forsberg wants to see if he can get Leksand, the team he grew up idolizing, promoted to Sweden’s top division first. “It really depends on if we play up next year,” he said. “It would be so sick to be up in the first league.”
Depending on how things go in the fall, he may even have a shot at the best league in the world, instead.
He didn’t really impress me in the WJC, though that’s obviously too small a sample size to get a proper bearing.
I’d rather one of the centers.
what about Forsberg
Pretty discouraged Habs fan at the moment. Many wholes in the lineup. I’d say Cole and Pacioretty are first line players, and they have been carrying DD. Would be a fantastic top line with a “true No. 1 center.”
The DD supporters are going to freak at me, I know. But the way I see it is he loses most one on one puck battles, rarely shoots and is a well above average passer while being the slowest skater on his line.
“Would be a fantastic top line with a “true No. 1 center.””
Like Eric Staal? Oh but Cole’s having his most productive year ever.
“the way I see it is he loses most one on one puck battles,”
You’re not seeing what I’m seeing.
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I watch every game, and now that Cole is ailing, and Pacioretty is still holding his own, DD is showing his warts.. slow, weak, but great vision and passing. He is FAR from the “total package.”
I think there is some merit to what you are arguing, but DD isn’t that bad. His size is extremely limiting granted, but he has some slick hands. The real problem is when you compare him to Eller.
Both are fast and have good hands.
Eller has 12 goals and 22 points, +2
DD has 11 goals and 44 points, +10
Now the average time on ice for Eller and DD is about the same if DD never got any PP time. So, with 14 points on the PP giving DD 30 even strength points. One could easily make an argument that with some decent wingers, Eller could be outperforming DD at this point in his career. Eller is 22, DD is 25.
Another argument to be made is that Eller still needs some time to put it together (and has the size to do it in the NHL), and DD is a very cheap stop-gap.
I 100% disagree that Cole and Max P are carrying DD. DD has shown that he makes wingers better cause of his smart hockey IQ. yes, he is small and yes he has shown he can produce at any level.
He was our most productive forward from the all star break on last season and has continued great production this year. Last year he was on the third line. What does this guy have to do for people to think he is decent?
Max P also said he was the best centre he has played (last year) with when he was in the AHL with him. They have great chemistry
Win a cup.
80 points+ consistently.
He will never be an 80 point guy IMO. He is a 60 point guy similar to Pleks.
I know, I’m just saying that’s what it would take to shut them up.
I think you are right, but that alone should stop any crazy comparisons to Martin St. Louis. DD has been a GREAT pickup, didn’t we get him as an unsigned free agent? I think he is very good for us, but again, I don’t think he is that stand alone #1 center that people think of.
I think he is a useful piece.. I just do not think he is a top line center. Look above, I said he has great vision and passing, and yes, he has benefited from his wingers.. immensely.
well, i say with DD they are a high end second line.. I stand by my point that the wingers are top line caliber.
Cole used to play with Staal and put up similar numbers…..sometimes even less.
Max P it is hard to tell cause it is early. I think they are a solid line but we have zero other options. If we had another scoring line they may actually get more points. right now teams just have to shutdown one line
Grow a foot, score 50 goals, and produce the Stanley Cup for us.
: )
But I like him too.
help the team win a round in the playoffs.
Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.
I don’t think that they are carrying DD so much as the three of them just compliment each others playing style. Two big bodies to clear up traffic and make space for DD to use his playmaking and passing skills while Patches has a goal scorers finish and Cole bangs in front of the net. The three just click and it seems to elevate their overall play so I think that in the case of DD, his status as a #1 center is a relative term.
I agree the three compliment each other well.
I actually agree 100%. DD is a good hockey player given his size. He has great vision. But he is playing on a number one line flanked by arguably the two best power forwards we have had in ages. And he is not putrting up #1 numbers.Imagine Saku with those two. Or Oleks. Or Eller.
DD can dish out a nice pass if he can get to the puck – and he usually can’t. This is not the DD line. It is the Cole line. 9/10 times it is Cole who gains the line. Anyone who thinks we can count on him as a number one centre is nuts. Sorry y’all. Just my opinion.
Exactly, I am not saying DD sucks.. just that he is not a No 1, and is playing with top line wingers. Anybody that watches Hab games should see he is a below average skater, very small, easily shoved aside by D in the offensive zone, also has a Bantam AAA shot… on the plus he is a playmaker with vision.
Also, Saku is a much more effective complete player and never played with wingers like Patch and Cole.
If Eller was flanking them them they wouldn’t have the production. Eller is still developing and isn’t as offensively gifted as DD.
Maybe , maybe not. Price says eller has the best hands on the team.
He also used to brag about Weber’s shot….lol
I think Pierre Gauthier just hit the jackpot… gotta figure a high 2nd rounder (maybe low 1st round??) + prospects for each of AK & Moen now that Ruutu is off the market!
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“Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.”
- Jean Beliveau
I think people over estimate the value of Moen. He is a steady enforcer but he has barely any offensive skills. He is having a career year and he has 9 goals…
He is not a 20 goal scorer like Downie is (or would be w/o injuries), or like Ruuttu has done before.
Also, I’m pretty sure Moen is completely off the table. PG isn’t offering him, they plan to resign him, and he’s injured and you can’t trade injured players.
if Moen is not off the table…the scuttlebut is Vancouver is very , very interested..he would bring tons of grit and size. sounds like something habs need.
thats fair to say, but this year’s trade market seems to be inflated (see: Gill, Hal).
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“Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.”
- Jean Beliveau
Just don’t get your hopes up for an unrealistic return and then blame PG when he gets a realistic return.
All indications are the Habs want to re-sign Moen. AK is as good as gone.
Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.
Either that or they just priced AK right off our team
which is why they need to trade him and get something in return rather than just let him walk away.
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“Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.”
- Jean Beliveau
I need you guys to rate this trade I did in NHL 12:
Kaberle
Dietz
3rd round pick 2013
for
Skinner
2nd round rick 2012
I feel like in real life the habs would be winners of that trade, right? PG make it happen.
Hell of a trade for us, that’s why it will never happen.
Assuming the Skinner you got is actually Mike Skinner the former Nascar driver now runs in the Truck series? Otherwise if that is Jeff Skinner from Carolina and 2nd you are kidding if you are asking if you won that trade.
HAha nono its Jeff Skinner. Man thats why I like that game, I get to do all the impossible things that would never happen in real life. The habs never lose in Nhl 12 lol
Just looking for your guy’s outlook on this trade I just made in nhl 2012
To Pitts :
Scott Gomez
Tomas Kaberle
To Montreal
Evgeni Malkin
Kris Letang
Id you really did that in the game you win lmao
Try getting crosby for a 5th round pick :p
I would hold out for Crosby.
what kind of meds are you on.
Is the Skinner Principal Skinner?
“SKINNNER” in a “super nintendo Chalmers” voice
steal of the year…you have to sweeten the pot big time to get it done.
Come on Goat, you’re on the Clock …
Sell Sell Sell!
Someone in MTL needs to make a video similar to Liverpool FC fans’ ‘Dear Mr Hicks’ – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO55BazkiZ4
‘Dear Mr Molson’
Ruuttu signs for 4.75 per.
Is that high, seems high to me.
That’s freaking insane – the guy has only cracked 20 goals twice in 9 seasons… by that example AK should get 5.5 mil a year! Ridiculous!
That is good news in one way for us, increases value of Moen and AK potentially, another rugged forward out of the trade deadline picture.
Free agent pool is gonna be quite poor this summer.
Also sets the bar very high for AK46′s next contract.
bye bye AK I think. He is not worth 4.75 a season. Not even close
Agreed.
Kos said he would take a paycut to stay in MTL. Whether he meant a pay cut from his current salary, or a pay vut from what he is offered in the summer I’m not sure.
See whatever the Goat can get before the trade dealine because after we get nadda.
Mr. Biter
No Guts No Glory
doesn’t pleks make $5 mil/season?
how can rutherford afford to pay a 3rd liner that much??
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“Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.”
- Jean Beliveau
remove the Montreal hype & Pleks isn’t much more than a 3rd line centre….hasn’t done anything since AK27 left the team…and he has yet to ever show up when it counts – the playoffs. -17 rating zero chemistry with any of the wingers this year and seems to be easier easier to separate him from the puck. guess the 5m must be weighing him down. IMO, dump his 5M get a big stud on d and let eller & leblanc be our no.2/3 centres until they can get an actual no.1 centre.
~I never said it. Honest.~
Insane is they wouldn’t match the 4.5 the habs gave cole…..lol DUMB DUMB
They matched the price, wouldn’t match the extra year in term.
I think they would have added that extra year, in hindsight…
I bet Eric Staal wishes they did as well
yeah, you are right burly, sorry brain is getting tired. Lack o sunshine will do that lol
Stev AK said he would take a hometown discount from market value, not present value. AK at 3 million would be a steal. H’es market value is probably closer to Ruttu’s so if could sign him for approx 3.75/4 it would be great. he’d still be worth the same as this year should we want to trade him. I just don’t like how we handle AK. Every year at the start he is amongst our best players, then we keep messing with his linemates. As soon as things starte dto good with Pleks they bounced him off. Then things starte dto go well with Eller and they bounced him off again. Since then Eller has stopped producing too. Cunneyworth why are you doing the same thing Martin is doing. Did AK piss in you soup???
.532 points per game Vermette
.557 points per game AK
These two guys have really similar stats all the way down to money being earned. Have to believe AK is going to get 3.5 to 4.25 per year after this season and Vermette is guaranteed 3.75 for 3 more years.
I kind of think Columbus should have gotten more for Vermette, but then again the Columbus GM is not really considered shrewd. Hope this trade does not devalue what we can get for AK if indeed the Team decides to move on.
And I think the deal is exactly what Vermette is worth.
Did we get a first rounder for Cammalleri? I can’t see getting one for Kostitsyn.
SO I want a second rounder and 20-25 goal player with upside potential. I’ll look tonight and let Gauthier know.
I kinda want Bourque moved too, there’s something wrong with that guy (outside of hockey), and I don’t want to go through another three years of Bourque posts like we deal with Gomez here.
They Call Me Shane
Bourque is not Gomez bad, he’s just another kind of AK.
What do you think is wrong with Bourque, that remark is curious.
Ha, I like that, now there is a new standard in bad, Gomez Bad. Funny, he is true pop culture now.
Bourque? Who knows, could be any number of things.
Maybe he hates the city, personal life, family left behind, who knows, (and it’s none of our business) but he’s just following through on the ice.
Kaberle’s divorce almost destroyed his hockey career.
Plek’s new born is keeping him awake at night. That’s why you can tell who’s a parent here, most of us don’t hate the guy because we know what he’s going through.
Just a few examples.
They Call Me Shane
Oh I thought you meant something more sinister, the way you posted it sounded quite omnious.
that Pleks excuse is crap. you think these guys don’t have full time nanny’s and cleaning ladies??? come on
Plus he isn’t home half the time when the team is on the road
“there’s something wrong with that guy (outside of hockey)”…
What do you mean?
I think Bourque is inconsistent, but I also think he can be a good player for this team. I’d like to see him for a full year, at least.
I think Shiram nailed it, he is a different version of AK, another enigma wrapped in a conundrum or however that stupid saying goes. But in light of the contract we off loaded and some picks will live with it.
I’ve watched him play (Western kid) all his career, and the last few weeks that we have seen of him is nothing like how he has played in the past. Leads me to believe that outside of hockey he’s having problems.
They Call Me Shane
Or, just as likely if not more possible, the Habs dressing room of 2011-12 is the place where marginal players of marginal character go to die.
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Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.
Agreed on the Bourque observation. His contract is not exactly light and is long term. I don’t see him being the power forward that PG should have known him to not be….
He may turn it around, but he’s not showing it on the ice right now.
They Call Me Shane
Bourque brings a big body, can scrap, and has being doing yeoman work on the penalty kill. He’s a perennial 50 point man with half of those being goals. For what he brings at his cap hit I have no issue with him. Solid 3rd liner. Not really a leader but you know what they say about not enough indians.
Yeah, but he wont be on the 1st PP unit in Mtl, expect those numbers to drop.
Yeah Scott Gomez gets all those minutes….
You know everyone is talking about how the Habs need the best coach available. How about one that carries himself with integrity so Gomez’s PI can’t find compromising photo’s to extort them with.
A solid 3rd liner, I suppose that is why Cunningworth has been double-shifting him. It all makes sense now.
That is a lack of depth issue.
Pulling a McGuire with Bourque’s hertiage…..
Here’s Scott Cullen’s breakdown of the Vermette deal.
http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/story/?id=388549
Well should talk about players I would like the Habs to draft as the playoffs are out and we will sell sell sell now. I would like Galchenyuk or Rielly. Now let guess who goes to what team before or on the 27th.
Moen….. I think he ends up out west LA or The sharks(2nd round pick and maybe a plug)
AK46…. Nashville or Boston (1st round pick)
Campoli……(4th round pick and who cares as long as he is gone.
Plekanec…..(1st round pick, bottom 6 player and top 5 prospect…… Nashville or LA… I think he will still be here but would move him if we get that return.
Darche…. 6th or 7th round Flyers is my guess.
GLove….. Teams number 1 center next year Bulldogs. I don’t want the team to spend big in the UFA market this summer… Next summer is when the team should make a splash or 2.
Moen and Pleks aren’t going anywhere.
AK to Boston? I will personally kick PG really hard in the nutz if that happens
No, let’s do it. Let’s see him combine with Benoit Pouliot and slowly suck the energy out of that team.
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How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?
http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/
First round – 2nd-3rd pick – Grigorenko, 4-8 pick – Galchenyuk, 8-12 pick – Faksa. If none of them, then Dumba.
Second Round – Frk
Second second round – Bissonnette
Third Round – Makarov
How will TSN fill the time next Monday withough Pierre McGuire there humping the side of Darren Dutchysen’s leg?
Clips from past leg humpings
Matty…..too funny…my first roll gave me the chance to play again….stupid roll up …lol
This just in:
First Roll Up The Rim was a winner.
Free Coffee.
Oh yeah.
100% success rate.
I should probably trade myself while my value is high…
—Hope Springs Eternal—
“I don’t NEED coffee—I can get my own damn coffee.”
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Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
Took me until the 3rd coffee to become a Gagnez un Cafe ou Latte. I thought I was special till I read about you. Wow ever since you got that Gomez jersey your life has turned to Gold…. Cheers to you my friend.
(No turnstiles at Tim’s right?)
Hey I was a winner too on my first…. of course now it’ll be weeks of “Please Play Again” to which I will scowl… and proceed to play again.
I feel a little less Canadian today, I’ve never rolled up a rim to win.
Oh Matty you still drinking that stuff, didn’t you hear about the conspiracy theory behind that swill
They Call Me Shane
In my office when I make the Tim’s run, I announce it as I am getting Liquid Bile, people still ask for one including me….
They Call Me Shane
…don’t you work at home…?
—Hope Springs Eternal—
No I have my own office/warehouse 2mins. from my house and 4 mins. from the Corporate head office. Kind of the best of both worlds.
Nice! Lucky you.
And I think it’s Ontario law that you’re not allowed to have any place of business less than 500m from a Tim’s, right? Like with fire hydrants?
—Hope Springs Eternal—
My closest Tim’s is 1 min. from work, so yah, I am there way too much, idiot I am. BUt i am a coffee freak. Of course all Times are based on high speed driving, I am not nearly enough of an Eco guy to be riding my bike like I should be.
Gerald there is a Tim’s right down the street from here. Last year I was going there three times a day. I was doing some numbers and was spending over 30$/wk. I’ve had 5 cups since last August
They Call Me Shane
…..slow day?
I blame gillett for this mess. He bought a team that never spent much and turned them into a high roller. He gave us hope. I used to love seeing him at work (bell center). He brought in international talent on all levels, mints bob (sorry, like the man not the gm). And then what does George do?!? He sells the team back to molson… A family that only cares about the bottom line. I for one was sad to see George go and I dont think this ownership and/or management have what it takes. Good god, look at our team. My expectations are now high for a team that goes by the bounces (they catch em and they’re in, they don’t and they miss the playoffs). There’s a good core here but they cost much…
On a brighter note, 5 weeks til I’m in Mexico and stop caring about everything Canadian (not a typo) lol
Except if Gillette had been here another 1-2 years he would have run out of money completely and his ownership style would have changed. I think he was an excellent owner, but didn’t have the deep enough pockets to play in the world of pro sports owner globally, too bad he ever met Tom Hicks…
You hit it on the head.
I think he had the $$, until Hicks stuck his nose in it.
I too liked George. He indeed rekindled the standards by which the Canadiens ruled, this after Ronald Corey had come along and blew it up the first time.
Then Hicks….that idiot is slicker than a harpooned hippo on a banana tree.
He’s busier than a one-legged man in an ass-kicking contest.
He can swing a deal as effectively as a cat in a closet.
He’s crazier….well, you get the idea.
Gillett and his son Foster had bought this team knowing that the team was going to celebrate the Centennial festivities with a bang and both knew that they were going to make a wad of cash along wiih bonuses given to Boivin as well as others in the organization..
I don;t blame them one bit for selling the team when their stock was high, I would have done the same, take the money and run but for petes sake, be honest to the fans, it’s a business and they really did not see any Cup coming to Montreal.
I assure you the Molsons will sell the team with their value slowly depleting in the next couple of years and it will be another rough ride for the owner(s) to bring a Championship team to this once proud city.
“We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “