Bad news piles up

Cammalleri
As the Canadiens prepare to face the Bruins in Boston, Brian Gionta is lost, likely for the season.
And Mike Cammalleri pops off about his teammates.

After most of the media had left the Canadiens’ room after Wednesday practice, Cammalleri had a chat with Arpon Basu of NHL.com and François Gagnon of La Presse.

His remarks – exonerating Cammalleri’s own poor play, whining about his reduced ice time and calling out his teammates for their “losing mentality” – enraged the panel on L’Antichambre.

There were suggestions Randy Cunneyworth make Cammalleri a healthy scratch against the Bruins. But the Gionta injury and the Canadiens’ lack of depth make that unlikely.

The bigger question: Does Cammalleri want out of Montreal?

Gagnon thinks so.

P.K. won’t be fazed by boos in Boston

Good piece on Lars Eller

Will Bruins force other teams to toughen up?

634 Comments

  1. timothy13 says:

    The Montreal Canadiens continue to have major problems. I am not impressed that Cammalleri is suddenly disrespecting his team, other players and the coach. Sorry but these guys are paid well for what they do and frankly they do not play hockey very well. Is there a poison on this squad,I do not know nor do I care to know about the team’s politics. But it was present a few seasons ago and there was a major clean-out of players. Is that needed again, not sure, maybe management needs a shake-up. But the team has a very bad record of letting people go and they perform better elsewhere. Why is that? Is it because there is a poison that is never properly dealt with or the owners are blind. The psychology of the team is often fragile. Before the Montreal Canadiens can ever become a top placed team in the standings and a serious contender for the all mighty Stanley Cup the team needs many changes. Can this squad tonight group together as one and perform with a threat to the Bruins or will get shut-out with both defense and the forwards standing still, I don’t have a good feeling because several of the Habs merely mail in their efforts. Sad. Shameful. Disgusting. Not good for a once GREAT organization….and now they are plagued with being a bunch of losers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a fan and want to give up hockey and take up bowling…..ha…ha…ha….

  2. Dintrox says:

    trade cammi?? maybe at the trade deadline but we don’t need a knee jerk reaction. still unsure why he is whining? he is 3rd forward in terms of ice time and still wants more? Are you a two way center, Mike or a D man? that is the only way you get more time on ice.

  3. PeterD says:

    Trade Cammi…we don’t need a whiney, immature floater in the room complaining about his ice time and ragging on his team mates…
    I love that Cunney uses ice time to reward or send a message to his players…if they play hard and commit to the compete level then they play more…if not (Cammi) your ice time is reduced…
    Makes sense and if Cammi is stuck with his head up his ass thinking just because he makes $6 Mil per season he is entitled to more ice time than a younger play, then he needs to give his head a shake and spend time nthe preess box sampling hotdogs for a game or so. No player is “entitled” to anything…either perform and produce or get out.
    I say trade him to a contender at the deadline and pick up some draft picks or talented RFA’s or both for future…and drop our overall cap hit. This team needs to move into a “rebuild” mindset and focus on the future…this season is a complete mess.

  4. keepthefaith says:

    Ole ole ole ole. Seems to me some of you ladies are enjoying this soap opera stuff.

  5. Sportfan says:

    I remember a couple years ago that most people (key word most) were excited for our new guys like Cammy and Gionta, but 3 years later and a team who looks to be out of the playoffs I think trying to move Gionta, Gomez and Cammy are now essential because when we win games its without all of them. Keep Cole, Max-Pac, DD, Eller, Pleks Etc and our main D-Corps of course, but trade for good propects and picks and rebuild because really we don’t need Cammy, Gionta and Gomez at all. I just wish we had a better GM to make moves that would benefit us.

    Please respond away I’m curious in what people think :)

    • pg says:

      Mostly agree. The only thing I’d change is that Pleks would be part of the outgoing gang – if nothing else, he’s bound to bring more than the others in terms of traded players or draft picks.

      Completely agree that I wish we has a better GM…

      And on a complete non-sequitur… can we please move the benches back to opposite sides of the rink? Then those little melees like the one in Boston with Vancouver the other night won’t happen.

      pg (my initials, not an implicit statement of support for the GM)

    • SPATS says:

      Bang on. Gomer, Gio, Cammy & Markov are all MIA this year. Cap hit? around 22 mill give or take. Keep the big bodies, lose the smurfs. We have DD (now) and Gallagher (later) to take their spots. Did you see how the Blues played? Same speed but with size and agressive corner seeking forecheckers. Wonder why the small guys can’t produce? They are either trying to play big and getting killed or crying because he might break a finger nail. Cammy you prima donna, cry into your extra shaving kit… the one with the manicure set in it.

      OOH AAH – HABS ON THE WARPATH!

    • vegas says:

      Pleks would probably be our best trade bait
      Play Cammalleri with Eller and AK till deadline and see what he could do. If it doesn’t work out away he goes

    • habindubcity says:

      i couldnt agree more sportsfan (and that goes for the many other habs fans in windsor ontario i know) i feel like by riding halak that one year, the team over-achieved and the forseeable problems that are occuring now were overlooked. that combined with the gomer-markov failed contracts has this team frustratinly stalled. be a seller at the deadline, get some size, some scoring…the systems’ not completly broken…just needs some tweaking

  6. twilighthours says:

    Cole got jobbed. Deserved to be there well ahead of Carey.

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  7. Timo says:

    I am thinking Carey Price will be invited to play in the Worlds this spring. Along with PK and Eller.

  8. Ian Cobb says:

    They have enough concussed all stars to make up both teams now!

  9. HNS says:

    Time to start from Le Scratch

    • likehoy says:

      hopefully we can break and not sink the 8 ball too soon.

      - Next week on Habs Shore: Cammi Sweetheart is jealous of the attention G-Love is getting for his FHO philosophy (Fishing, Hockey, Overpaid)

  10. Timo says:

    Who else is surprised Gomez is not on the all star roster?

  11. RockinRey says:

    As bad as it is right now with the CH and it is pretty bad.Things can change quickly if you bring someone in with a plan. Clean house and bring in the best guy for the job!!

  12. John Q Public says:

    It is what it is.
    Too many injuries have caused lots problems.
    It’s a development year.
    And they are developing but that takes time.
    Cammy is a prima donna who should stop wiping his stick blade like it was his best friend cause it ain’t. If he ever checked any one that would be a start.
    Hal the pylon Gill is past due and should be player/coach for us.
    Tanking is Not an option but getting rid of some parts will put at the bottom or close.
    What we really need is some stability.
    Getting rid of players and replacing them every year does not build chemistry.
    Let the players decide on the next Captain.
    And as some have said before a little Tweaking ™ and some injury luck could help us next year.

  13. RockinRey says:

    Selfish, selfish comments by Cammi. Neve really liked him and have felt his is one dimensional and defensive liability.

  14. HFX-HabFan says:

    So Price was officially named to the All-Star Game in Ottawa. Other all-star goalies are Lundqvist, Quick, Howard, Elliott, and Thomas.

    • Sportfan says:

      I don’t deny Price being an All-Star but I think its Bogus that Cole got over looked he’s been our best by far and think he should have gone to the all-star game

  15. Ian Cobb says:

    Print media is slowly going out of business. Most people get their news through the internet now, or could. The media writers both French and English need fireworks stories to sell their papers. With the Hab’s not making news by winning, the media has to come up with any kind of story that will keep the pay check coming in.

    So do not believe everything you read about our club in the papers folks. Or even what I think. Just watch the games yourself and see what takes place on your own. We can guess and fantasize all we want, in the end, we won’t see it coming anyway!

  16. kirkiswork says:

    I just read on RDS.ca that Cam says………wait for it……..he has been misquoted.

    • likehoy says:

      he was misquoted about being misquoted. That’s what he meant. He was serious.

      - Next week on Habs Shore: Cammi Sweetheart is jealous of the attention G-Love is getting for his FHO philosophy (Fishing, Hockey, Overpaid)

    • Timo says:

      NO?!?!? Was he really?! I mean, he didn’t own up to his words but went with the “misquoted” move? Man, those journalists and reporters. And to think that these guys are paid to listen and put what they heard on the paper.

  17. ed lopaz says:

    its not the first time I’m going to rely on Boone to help judge a man’s character, and its not the last.

    when Mike Boone says that Francois Gagnon is a straight arrow who is one of the most respected journalists covering the Habs, as Boone has said on this website,

    I am inclined to take Boone’s opinion of Gagnon very seriously.

    We are like blind mice when it comes to actually knowing the characters of the players, the management, the media.

    Gagnon strikes me as being very thorough.

    I have heard him speak on AM 990 the past few years in the morning maybe 100 times or more – he was on 2 or 3 mornings a week at about 8:00 AM for about 20 minutes.

    Boone knows this man.

    Gagnon deserves more respect than being called a “frog” on this website!!

  18. HNS says:

    Since they r done regardless, they should have picked up McIntyre from Pitt to smash some faces in Boston.

  19. What’s up with all these so called trade talks? IMHO, nobody is going anywhere? PG will wait and see were team is at come trade deadline.

    Put BG on LTIR for rest of this season. That will free up some cap space. PG needs to see what is available first and what offers can be made to improve this team.

    Right now, This team is what it is. Enough of the BS and lets get behind our team. Things doesn’t look good right now? At some point changes might have to be made?

    Hope to have some good news after All-star break and get everytbody on board for whatever happens until season ends.

    Go Habs Go!!!

    A winning streak will change everything in Habsland.

  20. durocher says:

    Regardless of whether Cammy was “misquoted”, he should be moved by virtue of the fact that he’s being paid $6m, hasn’t produced, and is soft. We could use that cap space elsewhere to find someone who can chip in more regularly and who can compete physically. In short, we need to clean house because Gainey’s attempt to clean house clearly has not worked. Exhibit A: Gomez, Exhibit B: Cammy.

  21. Timo says:

    So does this mean Gionta’s salary is off the books for the season? That’s good.

  22. mb says:

    Am I the only one who doesn’t want Carey Price at the all-star game?

    As much as I agree he’s one, if not the best player of the team so far, the guy deserves a rest.

  23. kempie says:

    Didn’t Cammy used to own Timmy Thomas? Whatever happened with that?

  24. likehoy says:

    Cammalleri’s value should be a

    First Rounder (top 15) + medium level prospect (2nd line potential.. 3rd line target)

    or

    Top prospect (First line potential) + First rounder (Bottom 15) or early 2nd rounder (top 40).

    it can get creative.. maybe instead of a first rounder 2012, canadiens could gamble on someone’s first rounder in 2013 if the price is right and gauthier has some sort of foresight seeing as that team will fail miserably next year

    the thing is we can’t set the market.. someone’s gotta set the market before we do cause we’ll inevitably get screwed like we always do.

    - If the NHL was the Wizard of Oz, Cammalleri would be the Cowardly Lion.

    • TomNickle says:

      Use last season’s market. Trade him for a package similar to what the Oilers got for Penner.

      1st round pick and a 1st round pick prospect.

      Done.

      • likehoy says:

        yea but we should try to secure a higher than top 20 first rounder or a top prospect..
        meaning trade cammi sweetheart to a bubble team like pittsburgh :P

        - If the NHL was the Wizard of Oz, Cammalleri would be the Cowardly Lion.

  25. TomNickle says:

    I wonder if Cammalleri would have the guts to make these comments under the watch of a permanent head coach.

  26. mb says:

    Richardlabbe Richard Labbé
    So Hal Gill, this morning in Boston, sums it all in one phrase: “Until we start to win, we’re losers”.
    Retweeted by habsinsideout1

    Fair enough.

  27. HABZ24 says:

    there must be a huge personal chemistry issue between players, somethings rotten in that dressing room no doubt.ive been a habs fn all my life, this is the first year ive lost hope on a season so early.just one big cluster puck.we need pierre mcguire as gm let him bring in his own coach and let pierre rebuild this team properly.we have peices like subban, max pac,eller, maybe diaz etc. we need to rebuild with size and grit .we will never get past huge teams like philly if we dont.if cammy does want out trade his whiney azz.

    GO HABS GO

  28. --Habs-- says:

    Don’t think 3 media organizations could get it wrong or call it a rumor. 1 Maybe, 3 not! A for Cammy, imagine the dressing room with the players tonight where Cammy thinks his game and attitude is OK and everyone else sucks.

    • G-Man says:

      Yes they can. Newsmedia these days would rather be first instead of accurate.

    • mb says:

      Like it was posted earlier, I remember a good number of “reporters” talking about huge news that would make this particular day the darkest day in Habs history. Many reporters. Turned out to be nothing. So, I think we have to look for quality in the Montréal media, not the quantity of these media organizations.

  29. punkster says:

    I’m never surprised by the ability of people to accept rumour as truth, fiction as fact, and selectively grasp at whatever straws a media report may purport as truth as long as that truth supports the reader’s or viewer’s own prejudicial thoughts.

    How many media manufactured controversies have we lived through with Habs teams over the years?

    How many turn out to be nothing more than players misquoted, misinterpreted, mistranslated, and the worst, misrepresented by the media folks they have to deal with daily?

    Which “mis-” is the catalyst for our latest tempest in a teapot?

    Shame.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • shiram says:

      Habs fans are very passionate, but that’s often not a great thing, as passions can obscure judgement.

    • TomNickle says:

      What exactly was media manufactured here?

      Cammalleri said the team has a losing mentality. Complained about icetime. Said at the end of his interview that Basu and Gagnon could feel free to “read between the lines”.

      That’s unhappy player who doesn’t like the way he’s being used, doesn’t like the preparation or mentality of the team and is openly offering permission for those who listen to interpret what he’s saying in the most negative light with no regret.

      That is a player who doesn’t want to be on this team any longer.

      • GenerationYHabs says:

        I think it has more to do with the fact that most of what you paraphrased actually only came up in the french media.

        Arpon’s article doesn’t come out nearly as negative as the Gagnon one.

        • TomNickle says:

          I’m not using Gagnon’s spin or putting words in Cammalleri’s mouth though. He’s a big boy. He knows what he said, he knows the timing of what he said and how it would reflect on him.

          Very selfish beginning and end to his interview.

  30. dhenry1234 says:

    Cammy and a 2nd rounder for Parise straight up.

    What are your thoughts on that people?

  31. POPS says:

    What do you think?
    Cammallerri and Moen to Edmonton for Hemsky and Eager?

    • TomNickle says:

      No thanks. Not interested in veterans, especially one who is often injured. We have enough of that already.

      • POPS says:

        Hemsky is a UFA at the end of the season he can be dumped.
        Eager gives the team some much needed toughness.
        I like Cammallerri, but he really seems frustrated right now. Do the Habs keep him at the risk of trading him for nothing? I believe either Cammallerri or Plekanec will be moved. Plekanec to Colorado for Statsny?

        • TomNickle says:

          The Habs can get more for Cammalleri than a pending ufa and a fighter. That would essentially be giving him away for his cap room. Terrible management if you ask me.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Cammaleri for Hemsky straight up. Moen has more goals.

    • durocher says:

      I’d do it in a sec — Hemsky is a UFA at the end of the season. We can resign him for cheaper (given his injury history) or at least have the cap space free.

  32. Dennis says:

    I like The Cat’s idea – have a big honkin bench-clearing brawl to create togetherness. Or maybe a dressing-room-clearing brawl. Other than that, I can’t think of any solution to the divided room except to maybe have everyone pop some MDA together.

    http://dennis-kane.com/

  33. habsolutely416 says:

    sometimes the truth hurts. cammy is just telling it like it is and no one else has the guts to say it apparently. hopefully this lights a fire under the team.

    ill be in the slot ;)

    • J_P says:

      Unfortunately, Cammy cant hit the net when hes wide open in the slot, and he doesnt backcheck. He should not be the one coming out and saying that. If he was any kind of leader, he would put some of the blame on his shoulders and say that he is going to go out and play better. If I was his teammate I would tell him to take a long look in the mirror before accusing his teammates of having a losing mentality.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Yes the truth hurts and considering his play, he shouldn’t be the one talking. Cammy, this year, as far as suck goes, you’re it.

  34. mrhabby says:

    Habs are imploding. Hard not to be negative on the board christ.
    Whats happened to Cammy, i remember when he came on board , he was so excited to play for the Canadiens. Now its a me 1st attitude and he cannot win any kind of PR battle regardless of how he plays. Seems like he wants out. On the flip side what ever he is thinking is symptomatic of a dysfunctional organization. From the firings and some weird signings its all kind of unprofessional. Molson needs to speak or install a person who can publically re-set the tone of the organization and create a positive fibe not the negative that media, fans have been use to for so long. i dear say these issues might have been dealt better by George Gillette.

    ps…with Gionta out gomez is up soon. Gionta will be missed.

    • J_P says:

      You hit the nail right on the head. The organization has a losing mentality. The organization itself is neither committed to winning nor committed to building a perennial contender. As ridiculous as that sounds, there is no evidence to support the contrary.

      • mrhabby says:

        I was driving into work and Jeff Blair who writes for the Globe and has lived in Montreal was on the radio. To make a long story short he said the organization has never recovered from Houle years and the slow decline of the organization started right there. what were seeing now is management way in over there heads. Coaching, GM’s you name it.

  35. The cap is the Habs biggest problem right now. In the MLB you can get a team like the Yankees to take on an overpaid player for not much in return, but in the NHL no one can afford the players we’d have to offer in order to ‘blow up the team’.

    http://www.puckbandits.com

  36. habsfan0 says:

    Why was Cammy’s “A” removed this year?

    • avatar_58 says:

      It was never permanent, it floats around. Gorges and Pleks are higher on the food chain ‘A’ wise

    • likehoy says:

      C: Gionta
      A: Gill
      A: Markov

      when markov’s not in
      A: Gorges

      when Gionta’s not in
      A: Gomez

      When Gomez is not in
      A: Plekanec

      then it goes Cammalleri if we’re missing more than two players (which happens often)

      - If the NHL was the Wizard of Oz, Cammalleri would be the Cowardly Lion.

  37. NafSbah says:

    Not sure if it’s been linked to yet, if not… ENJOY!!!!

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/magazine/2012/01/12/editor_golden_age_of_qbs/

  38. LeNordique says:

    So if we trade Cammalleri what can we realistically hope for in return? Another top-tier sniper to replace the guy he was supposed to be? Any decent roster player? A first rounder?

    If PG decides to trade he’ll be doing so from a position of weakness, and those trades never work out well…even “addition by subtraction” wouldn’t necessarily help this team since Cammalleri’s contract isn’t the worst and I doubt he’s the only source of the problem.

    • Captain aHab says:

      If they wait a bit, I would guess a 1st rounder would be the best case scenario if a team thinks he might get his playoff mojo back.

      • LeNordique says:

        I could definitely live with a first-rounder…only problem is that it’s a gamble- Cammy still has value for a team looking for an offensive boost, but if he keeps building his reputation as a locker room cancer it might hurt his value.

        If PG’s smart he’d announce he’s interested in trading Cammy now but only for the right price and then let the bidding war escalate between now and the deadline. If….

    • DLHABSNUT65 says:

      Maybe Anaheim is looking to deal Perry or Getzlaf for Cammy in a package deal….Maybe we can toss in a D-man as we do have a couple of extras and then we could always recall St. Denis who looked pretty good back there!! Am I dreaming too much….maybe we could toss in Kostitsyn who surely might not be back next year!!

      • mrhabby says:

        Getzlaf/Perry would require alot more than cammy and a dman.

        the conversatiions would centre around , PK, Price, Tinordi, Eller, Patches, 1st round pics you name it.

    • J_P says:

      You’re right that cammy isnt the whole problem, but he is a big part of it, and in light of his recent comments, hes now a HUGE part of it.

      Cammy contract was pretty bad when he was at least on 60-65 point pace, with his current stats its an absolute nightmare. Getzlaf and Bobby Ryan both have lower cap hits, and they are definitely higher end players than cammy. Chris higgins has more points than cammy this year just to illustrate how poor his performance is.

      If I could get a 2nd round pick for cammy I would take it in a heartbeat just to get rid of that $6M cap hit.

      The only problem with having cap space is that Bob gainey and now Pierre Gauthier have no idea how to use it. They just waste it like its burns a hole in their pocket.

  39. shiram says:

    renhockey Renaud P Lavoie
    #canadiens Mike Cammalleri dit avoir été mal cité. Il a parlé de la situation avec ses coéquipiers ce matin.

    (Cammy says he was misquoted. He talked it out with his team-mates this morning.)
    Cammy also is not looking for a trade.

    #canadiens Mike Cammalleri: “I don’t think it was breaking news. We are in the 12th spot, It was some pretty impressive journalisms to make all that of that.”

    Scott Gomez not playing tonight.

  40. HabFanSince72 says:

    Sorry to respond here, but LA Loyalist has been asking recently for the Habs to emulate his beloved Ducks.

    Which entails:

    * Getting repeatedly owned by Brian Burke in lopsided trades (Lupul, Gardiner and a pick for Beauchemin!; Giguere for Toskala and Finger)

    * Having the GM publicly trash his own players in the press.

    * Challenging Columbus and Edmonton for the lottery pick.

    * Having no fans. Whatsoever. (To the point where you don’t even have a parade when you win the Stanley cup.)

    * Playing in a ‘city’ that consists of freeways, theme parks and a convention centre.

  41. Bad Digestion says:

    Cammalleri has some balls complaining about others, he’s absolute crap! Cant score or even hit the target, does not want to get dirty at all, just stands there by his own net and watches the opposition set up goal after goal. I dont understand how a coach can give this guy ANY ice time, he just seems so uninterested and casual about his piss poor performance… Send him packing ASAP, this is the kind of attitude that keeps this team from going anywhere but down.

  42. How many players will be on the bench to start 3rd period? Bruins will be laying the body and PK is enemy no.1.

    Broons will do everything in there power to seek and destroy. Bruin fans wants a brawl and that’s the bottom line.

    Habs players are going to need therapy after its all over. Expect no practise until game day after this one is settled.

    Bruin fans will rock the house tonight. Prediction is a bruins win and CP is peppered and doesn’t start 3rd period while Tim Thomas faces less shots against than Halak did for St Louis.

    • G-Man says:

      Good for you. Another solid prognostication. Hope you have to do the “I was wrong” dance tomorrow here.

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      11 more losses to 9th place…or worse

  43. Ian Cobb says:

    OHL, QHL, and the WHL Hockey, is the best hockey played in the country now! The whole family can afford to go and the product on the ice is pure enthusiasm, heart, speed and talent.

    The NHL as I knew it, does not have the loyalty, pride and respect of the great years past!

  44. HabinBurlington says:

    I guess the bright spot on all this is we are over half way through the season. Not sure I have ever been less excited about watching a Habs/Bruins tilt.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Even if we win tonight Gerald, so what! seems to be the attitude by most.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        This recent news of the dressing room appearing to be falling apart is the most disheartening. I can accept having a team which still needs a few pieces here and there in order to make them competitive night in and night out. But I had come to believe over the past couple years that at least there was a real good sense of camradarie in the room. To know that a player or players who get the opportunity to wear the CH on their chest could quit on the team is unacceptable to me, nevermind the money they make.

        A shame.

  45. krob1000 says:

    Maybe BGl was right when he said to get rid of Gill…..
    I know he seems to have affected Pk, he is the most logical candidate for Weber to be referring to. Gill is a strong personality but not a strong player anymore…sure he is a stand up guy and if I had a daughter I would wish she found a guy with his character…but as a Habs fan …..move the big fella out of town.

  46. Propwash says:

    Well, let’s see if Cammy puts his money where his mouth is tonight.

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    Don’t let the wultures getcha.

  47. PureGuava says:

    Cole, Kostitsyn, Eller, Plecanec are the only four I wouldn’t move – and Plecanec i’d part with if the price was right.

    For the others – the lemonade stand is open for business.

    Cammy, Suban, Pacioretty….and Price, have value to other teams – so move them.

    Buyout Kaberle, Gomez.

    Let the other contracts expire.

    I still don’t get the Josh Gorges signing….”well he’s a natural born leader” – Really?!?!?! he’s doing a bang up job. Lets give him six yrs at 4 million to block shots and be the one stand-up guy in room full of buttholes. You pay 2 million for guys like Gorges..not max and term.

  48. veryhabby says:

    Few players should ever stand up and say what Cammy did. But if a team as a true leader who is respected and is leading the team in the room and on the ice….then maybe that type of player can stand up and speak.

    What urks me the most about what Cammy said is that he took ZIPPO responsibility for his play. Said he knows he’s a better player, says he will have to use practice to stay in shape as the coach doesn’t play him enough, says his D coverage error on Arnott’s goal was the coach’s fault cause he can’t be sharp in a game when it was only his 5th shift! Stand up and say…I am playing like a loser. I am a reason why we are having a bad season. And then say how the team needs to change it’s attitude too.

    But to throw all the blame on everyone else and your new coach. that is just an easy ticket out….and Cammy is a smart guy, he knows this. It’s why he did it. Not cause he’s a competitor who hates to lose. If so, then he would hussle on the ice and play his heart out and force the coach to play him again the next shift. Not just wash his hands and say it’s not his fault cause he is playing 3 min less then ususal. That’s a guy who hates to lose? No way. It’s a guy who hates to not be the star on a team.

  49. --Habs-- says:

    Can Gallager be brought up for a look see for 1 or 2 games while we sit yapi no show Cammy down!

  50. LA Loyalist says:

    Anyone else notice that hardly a single poster mentions our captain, Gionta, going down for the season.

    Speaks volumes, doesn’t it?

    To me it kind of bookmarks the point of no return on any possible justification of the Bob Gainey 2.o blow up, though I guess there’s always someone in denial.

    Can anyone say this team is better than the one he blew up?

    Run the kids hard. Bench the millionaires, let’s see what’s worth salvaging from this sad state.

    L’Anne du Tanque ™ Bring on the dancing horses.

    • TomNickle says:

      This version of the team isn’t better. But look at what was lost. Komisarek, Kovalev, Tanguay, Dandenault, Koivu, Lang and Bouillon were the notable players.

      Koivu is the only one of them worth having.

    • krob1000 says:

      was he ever really back? it is kind of like he never returned really so no big deal….

    • joeybarrie says:

      People talk as if the players picked up were clearly injury prone and it was obvious. On paper without injuries, yes this team is better. But our best player hasn’t played since what people are saying was a miracle run. Well before I judge I need to see the team get all its players back first. We have been a skeleton team for 2 seasons.
      Not resigning koivu didn’t somehow curse us into injury, but this team has been injury plagued.
      Not any GMs fault. For crying out loud look at the players missing this season. You can’t win the cup with the Hamilton Canadiens.
      This team isn’t BAD. Our injuries are BAD.

      There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

    • G-Man says:

      Yes. It went to the semis. The team before sucked rocks.
      Tanking is for losers.

  51. Timo says:

    It is too bad none of the media had balls to point out to Cammalleri that he is a big reason why this team is losing. When you’re paid 6 mil and do jack shit on the ice, it’s hard for others to get motivated looking at an overpaid floater.

    Don’t let the door hit your lazy a$$ on the way our, Cammy. Thanks for nothing.

    • TomNickle says:

      Couldn’t have said it better myself.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Actually that is pretty much what Gagnon said – but the commentariat believes he’s just a Frog causing trouble.

      FYI Gagnon translated the comments accurately.

      Basu’s “losing mentality” becomes in Gagnon’s translation “une attitude de perdant”, which is correct.

      • PeterStone says:

        exactly. Gagnon asked him what Cammi’s reposnsibility was, and cammi said the team was preparing like losers , and the rest is well documented.

        Gagnon is an intelligent, well spoken, and very open-minded journalist. The people who are quoting him here should read the article before sticking their feet up their ars**

      • mdp2011 says:

        Actually, this is where Gagnon puts his own spin on it, here is a quote from his article.

        ” On prépare nos matchs en perdants (losers).” Now everyone out there took this and said Cammy called his teammates losers, it started a fire storm in the French media yesterday on twitter. This is what I take issue with. Now if you read the Basu article, there is no mention of this phrase anywhere.

      • G-Man says:

        You said it. “he’s just a Frog causing trouble.”
        Gagnon is full of shit.

        _______________________________________________

        11 more losses to 9th place…or worse

      • avatar_58 says:

        To be frank – the french media are a bunch of thugs looking to stir the pot. I don’t really care how one feels about the team, quebec, the french or english language – this is fact.

        So you know what? Guess who’s side I’m on?

  52. joeybarrie says:

    While I do think that if you are not producing you should maybe keep your mouth shut, Cammi is extremely competitive.
    When you are down in a game you play with more urgency than when you re up. This is normal. I don’t see a lot of urgency in a lot of our play. There are certain things you don’t waste time with when you are focussed solely on scoring to tie the game up. And I can imagine that if players see it, then it is pretty frustrating.
    Players like Gill, Price, Cammi, PK, and others act a certain way when you lose. When you see you teammates laughing it up after be loss, then see the same thing before the next or in practice I can see being upset bout it.
    this team needs to fire on all cylinders to win. And its crunch time. If you are not acting like it, you are gonna get called out.

    funny we are all on his back, but when MaxPac said play me top 2 or leave me in Hamilton we were saying the same stuff. Yet he turned out great.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Max Pax was a kid out to make a name for himself (which he has done).

      Cammi is an expensive veteran who should be leading by example. I don’t think the two situations are directly comparable.

      And we should all consider, myself included, that we bag on athletes who just use canned phrases, but when they speak honestly we rip them also.

      i personally prefer the frankness and think it’s healthy. The problem is Cammi’s credibility is wobbly. When Selanne ripped his team a new one a couple of weeks ago, it worked, because Selanne delivers on the ice.

      And that’s what Cammi needs to do if he wants to big-mouth.

  53. Captain aHab says:

    Who was it who kept saying that the Habs were just unlucky when they were losing early on? I guess they’re REALLY unlucky this year…

  54. Dennis says:

    I like The Cat’s idea – a big honkin bench-clearing brawl to create togetherness. Other than than, I have no idea. Maybe a dressing-room-clearing brawl against some of their own teammates.

    When I’m owner/stickboy, things will be different.
    http://dennis-kane.com/

  55. 24 Cups says:

    “They’re selling postcards of the hanging”….

    (Take your pick)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_JjFeeYOLs (Grateful Dead)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOuSxal8pf4 (My Chemical Romance)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXI22DGgknk (Bob Dylan)

  56. shakey says:

    Time for Cammalleri to go – no matter what he said. He should keep his
    mouth shut – he is a scorer who is not scoring, and he contributes nothing else to the team. Since he seems to play when the playoffs are here, and since we won’t be in the playoffs, time to move him and get some value while he still has some.

  57. gohabsgo25 says:

    With webber saying he is better than some of the players on the team, i think he is better than one for sure and its darche. Darche is not the same player as last year and he is useless when hes out there, at least with webber he has a better shot than darche.

    As for cammy the french media is blowing up the story as it was told by nhl, can we just bring the nordiques back for the french media and leave our team alone. bunch of useless reporters who spread rumors.

  58. The Cat says:

    Ive said this before these past couple of years but what this team needs is a good bench clearing brawl -think of the togetherness.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Captain aHab says:

      They could all end up in the infirmary together. It’s a great idea.

    • ebourcier says:

      Cammi was an absolute god to all you people a short time ago, the fall of the canadiens franchise I blame stright on the Media.

      Ebour

      • The Cat says:

        Not me particularly, Cammi’s production is too dependant of the powerplay, anybody that knows me know that I dislike that. Ill take 5 Moens before Ill take 5 Cammalleris.

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

        • Furk says:

          For those people who use his playoff production as an argument to keep him need to realize that we’re not making the playoffs, so he is of no use to us at the moment. I’d rather have him help out another team in the playoffs, and that we benefit by unloading 6mil$ of cap space and getting draft picks.

        • roady says:

          Cammalleri went downward when playing with Plekanec, everyone who played on a line with the little Czeck Princess never had success because wee Thomas is a sissy of a hockey player….no chemistry with anyone and have the little guy killing penalties he can’t handle….but he’s a Czeck, so he gets a pass….ship the little girl out in a package with AK….wise men say, girls not play with men…bye Tommy. We’re in a rebuild so if everyone, and there are a ton of u on here who think the Princess is so wonderful, if he is so good, it would make sense we should get something in return for the little man with no heart for the sake of the team, if u put the team first…send im’ packin’ while he is still worth something. His minus # is risin’ so it is time NOW, while the lovefest is on….I take Cammalleri over him anyday, and that don’t mean like ‘em too much niether… after a good shit kickin’ tonight things will be more clear for some of u….nothin’ personal folks, but some of u just don’t have a clue what you’re talkin’ about…like children, and I know some of u are just little kids on this site…you’ll learn …one of these days when ya’s grow up…bring it !!

          take your drink to the end of the bar buddy…come on now, don’t be a fool…

    • Danno says:

      Like this?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zGbnevhXbE

      ________________________________________

      “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  59. --Habs-- says:

    Hope the Bruins demolish the Habs! For our sake! The worse it gets the better chance they will blow this team up.

  60. The Dude says:

    For the love of hockey BLOW THIS HABS TEAM UP! Thanks Gauthier and Gainey for starting hockey Taliban..

  61. Captain aHab says:

    So I’m Cunneyworth, I find a couple of media types pre-game and I tell them that I am playing the guys who think they’re hot shit a lot tonight and that I expect them to hustle on every shift. What does Cunneyworth have to lose?

  62. Mattyleg says:

    “Bad News Piles”
    ecchh.. is there any such thing as ‘Good News Piles’?
    I don’t think so.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  63. Ali says:

    Good to know that getting rid of Saku to give the locker room “real” leadership has paid off so well!

    • Mattyleg says:

      Not too sure how people are able to determine who is a good or bad leader in a locker-room to which we have no access.

      And good leadership does not manifest itself in wins. Look at Columbus and Nashville. I would suspect that both Weber and Nash are fairly good leaders, yet their teams suck pretty hard.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • eric says:

      Saku and Selanne untouchable in Anaheim

  64. Ali says:

    Marinaro, who i find quite annoying at times with his “I told you so’s” just said on air that Hal Gill and PK haven’t spoken to each other in over a month, after all that was made of how well they got along last year. Tony is quite plugged into the team. Depressing

  65. Captain aHab says:

    Remember when our biggest problem was O’Byrne stealing a purse?

  66. AndyF says:

    More evidence of the perfect storm for the Habs that is the 2011-2012 NHL season…

    I have heard rumours that, aside from all the injuries and just plain bad luck, that a certain person in management got a little too close to a certain very highly-paid forward and committed an indiscretion that cost the team a trade.

    That incident cleaved the team in two. The dressing room and pretty much all of upper managment is in great disarray right now. No one’s smiling within a 3-block radius of Windsor Station.

    Looks like the Habs’ own cronyism and complete lack of objective HR metrics for upper management has filetered down into the players’ dressing room. They all know this is a second-rate club.

    I still can’t imagine how Patrick Boivin is Director of Hockey Operations, Is this really true?

    http://andyfroncioni.com

  67. price365 says:

    I don’t understand – The fans don’t like what’s happening – but the Bell Centre is full every game – wake up – you’re supporting Molson
    that’s why he’s in no hurry to improve the Habs – why should he
    like a Landlord – as long as the money is coming in – I’m in no hurry
    to fit things.

    • Ali says:

      There’s many unsold tickets for the games this year, its well known that scalpers are having a hard time selling them and that the atmosphere at the BC has been dead this whole season. The sole exception was the Eller game.

  68. Cam_1 says:

    I honestly do not think this team is gonna be worth watching anymore until the Gainey/ Gauthier regime is gone. I mean it is pretty evident they are the ones that created this mess. Does Geoff Molson not know this ? Obviously he does not read the boards and can’t clearly see what everyone else sees. Gainey/ Gauthier have to go ! Open your eyes already Geoff and pull the tirgger…….sheeeesh ! The sooner you do it the better off the Habs will be !

  69. Malreg says:

    ArponBasu Arpon Basu
    Cammalleri never called #Habs org. or teammates “losers.” Strongly suggested they are playing with “losing mentality.” Big difference.

    Sounds like another story being blown out of proportion by the wonderful Montreal media.

    Remember when RDS was reporting that the police were waiting at the airport for the Canadiens to land so that they could arrest a few of the players? Was it Jacques Demers that was almost crying on L’Antichambre calling it the darkest day in Canadiens history?

    • Whats that story? When did that happen?
      (the police thing)

      http://www.puckbandits.com

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Was that the Kostisy thing where they were hanging out with an sledged mobster? Someone else was involved with that too? Sourey?

        • Malreg says:

          Ya, it was the Kostitsyn brothers and Hamrlik having “ties” to a mobster.

          Apparently the mobster helped them get cars and girls and crap…

        • mb says:

          Yah, the night when the Kostitsyn bro’s were “accused” of having contacts with a mobster.

          Before the news got out, a couple of hours before in fact, the guys on l’Antichambre were saying that it was the darkest day of the team’s history and that the Habs organization might just shut down after the huge news coming up.

          Next thing you know, two guys had made phone calls at some point in their life with some mob.

        • Les Canayens says:

          The K brothers and Hamrlik were befriended and helped by a guy who made their lives easier in Montreal (by shopping with them etc..). That guy was arrested in a anti-biker gang operation. On top of Theodore’s loan shark father and his photo with a bunch of Hells Angels, thus the over reaction.

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          ☞ I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears.☜

    • Les Canayens says:

      These guys need materials to fill the airtime, paperspace.

      If not for Cammy, what would they be talking about? Gionta’s injury? Gomez’s still not ready? Who will play goal? Booring….

      Cammy (or any other player) says anything with a hint of discontent? Let’s spin it til the next game!

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      ☞ I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears.☜

  70. Captain aHab says:

    Did you guys hear Yannick Weber say he knows he’s better than some of the Habs playing ahead of him? Talk about the wheels coming off….

    Cunneyworth needs to play Weber as a forward on Cammy’s line and send them out 23-25 minutes.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      where did he say that? I didn’t see or hear anything.

      • Captain aHab says:

        TSN 990

        • stevieray says:

          Don’t these guys know when to keep their mouth shout . If Weber thinks he’s better than some playing ahead of head …he seeing something that I haven’t ….
          This organization is sinkin’ to new depths !
          God dam soap opera ..
          Someone needs to reign things in ..I feel bad for RC …listening to these overpaid cry babies !!!

    • PureGuava says:

      It’s beautiful. Last week Pacioretty was Donnie Downer and said that nobody should be smiling, and that the team wasn’t taking losing seriously. Yesterday Cammalleri blows up, and takes the old ‘it’s not me, it’s everyone else’ stand. Now Weber claiming (and rightfully so) that he’s better than others in the line-up. It’s incredible. Oh….and the Captain underwent season ending surgery.

      Burn it to the ground boys.

    • --Habs-- says:

      He’s right!

    • Chrisadiens says:

      Wow, this season can’t end soon enough. This is horrible. Dysfunction is running rampant throughout the whole organization. I know Gio is hurt but maybe he should be leading these guys a bit better?

      Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • RetroMikey says:

      Yannick Weber is way overrated.
      Wicked inaccurate shot from the point but so small, fragile and weak on the D,
      Trade the guy if there are any takers out there.
      “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • kempie says:

      He’s better than some of the Habs playing ahead of him? Like, for instance, who?

  71. RiverviewCanadien says:

    @roady RE:Plekanec (and at anyone else for that matter)

    Plekanec has scored 20+ goals 5 years straight (this year he might not do so)
    Lead the team in points past 2 seasons and is tied for most points this year. (also finished 2nd in points to Kovalev’s 84 pts)
    Plays in EVERY situation out there on the ice (dream player for any NHL coach, capable of it all)

    And he is no chickens__t as you put it. Remember the year he stank (39 pts)? He is his own worse critic. I think we all remember his ‘Little Girl’ comment and I believe he even questioned why Czech wanted him on their international team.

    He gets it, and has been one of the best Habs in a LONG time, great for the kids, a true leader in my opinion.

    I hope he is a Hab for life!

    • LA Loyalist says:

      I agree with you on Plex, he has essentially replaced Koivu without the French language problems (JOKE!).

      That doesn’t mean we don’t need a big nasty #1 center ALSO, that would be the single biggest player need in my opinion. How we get one?

      I don’t know, but it has to be done. AND it has to be done with someone the right age to synch with the maturity of our stars (PK, Prices, Patches and the aforemention Plex.

      And if his last name starts with “P” all the better.

      Seriously, we can screw around with everyone else on the team but if we don’t have a game breaker threat down the middle… it’s spitting at windmills.

      • Malreg says:

        Considering 90% of the league is in need of a “Big nasty #1 center”, I don’t think our send is going to end any time soon.

      • RiverviewCanadien says:

        Plekanec has been the cog that keeps the wheels spinning on this team…for a while now.

        But to your point on the big nasty center, to get that player, you have give up something big.

        What do the Habs have to offer? No way do I trade Plekanec. No way do I trade Price. No way do I trade Pacioretty. Could Subban bring that talent to town? But then again, could the Habs live without PK? I think they could…

    • axxerd says:

      Couldn’t have said it better myself. Plekanec would be far FAR down the list of players I had a problem with on this team. Yeah sure, he is in a bit of a scoring slump…but he still champions one of the best PKs in the league and works his butt off each game. He takes on blame when he deserves it, and doesn’t deflect it on others. Plekanec is a player the Habs would be crazy to deal. He (along with Gorges) should be the leaders they keep on if they clean house and re-tool with younger players.

      —-
      Newfoundland’s biggest Habs fan. Hands down.

  72. Habsssssssswin says:

    I think Mike Cammalleri wants to remain a Hab. I think he is frustrated. As we all are. He’s frustrated with ownership/management . So he spouted off, and so will more of his team mates if Molson doesn’t soon take control of this ridiculous situation now. This team needs somebody to take control to enhance performance and be successful. This managerial team lacks the main ingredients for success…No consistency,and nobody seems to be in control.No stability,therefore everybody feels powerless. Players included. Mr. Molson, put some good hockey people in control of your team, and you will love the product they give you. It’s as simple as that…..

  73. mdp2011 says:

    Further proof that Francois Gagnon spun this story to fit his own agenda.

    @ArponBasu
    Arpon Basu Cammalleri never called #Habs org. or teammates “losers.” Strongly suggested they are playing with “losing mentality.” Big difference.

    • shiram says:

      Really starting to dislike Gagnon, spinning words to get controversy going.
      Sad thing is it worked.

      • Les Canayens says:

        The same François Gagnon back in 2007 who lied about having “the tape” of Kovalev dissing the Habs to some Russian media. When confronted, he denied of course.

        Back in the day I used to regard Gagnon as a rational voice among the French sports media. Since then he’s more a wolf in a sheep skin type of journalist.

        Notice how he follows up with a “Cammalleri wants out of town” article, but full of nuances to clear himself from any accusation of being a controversy advocacy.

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        ☞ I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears.☜

    • The Cat says:

      Saw Gagnon on L’Antichambre, he didnt say Cammi called his teammates losers.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • Les Canayens says:

        But when Gagnon used “Cammalleri: «Le Canadien affiche une attitude de perdants»” as the main title, it’s clear he wanted to invoke his readers to think the “team is a bunch of losers”. Of course he didn’t say it. Of course.

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        ☞ I can’t really hear what Jeremy says, because I’ve got my two Stanley Cup rings plugging my ears.☜

      • mdp2011 says:

        Too late, the damage has already been done with his first article yesterday. Everyone has taken his article and turned into “Cammy called his teammates losers”. Gagnon knew exactly what he was doing when he wrote his article.

    • PeterStone says:

      i have to assume you didnt read the story. I guess we can say that you are spinning your take to fit your agenda

      • mdp2011 says:

        No, I read the story as soon as it was posted yesterday, it set off a sh!t storm. Now, compare that to what Arpon Basu wrote, the other reporter there with Gagnon, 2 totaly different stories.

  74. TomNickle says:

    To Ed and anyone else who’s interested.

    Here’s where I see our organization in two years.

    At forward. Plekanec, Kostitsyn, Eller, Cole, Desharnais, Pacioretty, Leblanc, Gallagher.

    On defense. Emelin, Subban, Gorges, Beaulieu, Tinordi and Diaz.

    Price in goal.

    The bad news is that this version doesn’t offer a lot of size at forward. The good news is that Gallagher is very comparable to Marchand in the physical department, or Gionta if you prefer. Some people will scoff at what our defense looks like in my scenario. But in two years I expect both Emelin and Subban to be among the league’s elite defensemen. Beaulieu and Tinordi offer hope as well considering they have the tools to become elite down the road.

    So yes, I feel that we should be looking to move pieces that bring in fast, big and skilled forwards. And I will add that if this means sacrificing a player like Plekanec, Desharnais or Cammalleri. Depending on who it is or what the package is. I’m for it.

    In terms of trading a roster player. I think it’s important to add guys who will be ready or still very capable in two to three years. And I would be targeting Dallas, Phoenix, Minnesota, St.Louis, Florida and Winnipeg as potential trading partners. And my reason is that with the exception of Phoenix, I believe these teams are trending downward and will continue to do so through the rest of the regular season. Getting a 1st or 2nd round pick from these teams now could prove to be shrewd. I suggested Minnesota last season when they were in 4th place in the West. They ended up missing the playoffs and held a very lucrative pick in the draft.

    Some foresight would be nice if or when some of these players are moved.

    Edit: I realize that St.Louis has been the best team in the league under Hitchcock but I don’t see them maintaining it. I see a realistic 8-12 finish in the West for them.

    • PeterStone says:

      so .. are we still on pace to make the playoffs ?

    • LA Loyalist says:

      I actually like your set up, Tom, assuming the kids evolve properly.

      My only tweak (though it’s huge) is Plex and Eller as #2 and #3 centers with DD as an extra center, and we still need a stud #1 center.

      I also think you are correct that Emelin and Diaz will adjust well to NHL ice by then and be in their primes and Subban will be awesome.

      The challenge is who do we have – that we are willing to trade – to get these draft picks? That’s the problem, it’s a chicken and egg sandwich when you don’t have the depth anywhere to re-configure the team.

      We have to hope there are a couple of teams more screwed up than we are that we can Sather them.

      But nice work, gives some small reason for optimism.

      • TomNickle says:

        I think Emelin’s ceiling is very comparable to Subban’s. Emelin’s vision is ahead of where Subban’s is right now. Very understandable when you consider that he’s been a professional for a longer period of time. Emelin’s passing is probably the best we have among our defensemen right now. He’s very creative and looks like a quarterback quickly going through his reads when he has the puck.

        I think he’ll be our best defenseman very soon if he isn’t already.

      • ed lopaz says:

        loyalist:

        I think Eller might develop into a big center, 60-65 point guy.

        he’s not nasty, but a few more years of marriage might change that!

    • ed lopaz says:

      ak46, cole, max, eller, are a good start in terms of size

      i would keep moen, he seems to have actually gotten faster and his game has improved because of that added speed.

      just add 2 big bodies on the bottom 6 that play a nasty forechecking game and will make opponent d-men look over their shoulders going to retrieve a puck.

      and we need to add 2 d-men that will protect Price and our crease area.

      we’re off to the races.

  75. --Habs-- says:

    You want to hear something really scary! We all hate the Bruins but there is probably not 1 player on the Habs that would make the Bruins first 2 lines including D right now!

    • English is not a Crime says:

      Cole, Pacioretty, Cammalleri, Plekanec, Subban etc among currently healthy players would all make the top two lines in Boston if any one of them were to be there instead. Kaberle was their leading point scorer among D-men in his time there as well for that matter. Most of the Habs wouldn’t make the top two lines on the Habs if they were all healthy either though.

    • TomNickle says:

      Nonsense.

    • --Habs-- says:

      Ya your right maybe Cole! But who would Plek replace at center on the first 2 lines on the Bruins? Who would Cams replace? Pac ya I would agree if he’d show up every night and with the Bruins you have to show up every night. Subban would have to improve drastically defensively to play for the Bruins and right now he’s a liability. He wouldn’t get 25 minutes a game with the Bruins.


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