Back to the ice

The Canadiens practice this morning in Brossard, sweating off the turkey and whatever ele was ingested during their two-day hiatus.

The home opener is tomorrow night, with Guy Boucher and his Tampa Bay Lightning at the Bell Centre.

The Canadiens have also scheduled a press conference with Bell to announce “a series of three innovations aimed at bringing fans closer to their team than ever before.”

Maybe the cell phone numbers of all the players so we can call them up with helpful tips?

Homecoming for Boucher

Guy Carbonneau assesses the first two games

BGL gone, Breezer hanging in at Battle of the Blades

• A new creepy Ovechkin commercial

• Another questionable hit: Pominville injured

Wisniewski doesn’t remember

Hicks having trouble selling Stars

Devils a joke?

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224 Comments

  1. SLONCOLD says:

    Now that is a blind side hit/from behind… no place in the game for it. i say min 5 games. although i would love to see that get 10.

  2. TomNickle says:

    THANK YOU Robert.  It bothers me that teams can buyout a player to get to the cap floor(Islanders) or put players who aren’t injured on LTIR(Flyers) to circumvent the cap without punishment but the Devils are giving away a draft at the whim of the NHL.

  3. Mark C says:

    Sure, at least at ES he did last season. Spacek actually averaged 25 more seconds of ES time than Markov did last season. Markov gains the extra time by adding over a minute each of PP and PK time. If Subban is on the 1st PP unit and Spacek is still behind Gorges, Gill, Hamrlik, and Markov on the PK, I would think Spacek could handle being paired with Markov ES.

  4. SLONCOLD says:

    that is something i will be able to live with. speaking of trades though. what’s NJ gonna do?

  5. Danno says:

    The guy is vaguely familiar. Didn’t he play for us at one time?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  6. habs youngtimer says:

    if that’s the case, warrant: out for Blues GM Davidson for stealing Halak for a minor leaguer!

  7. SLONCOLD says:

    5 games. accident or not players have to be carefull and respectful of others

  8. TomNickle says:

    This Hjarlmarsson thing is very touchy for the NHL.  They need to be careful how many games they give him.

    Remember, Ovechkin will almost certainly hit somebody in the same way at some point this year and he’ll be a repeat offender.  Same with Marian Hossa, although he doesn’t make it a habit to skate all over the ice with reckless abandon.

  9. habs youngtimer says:

    word is, Markov returns to the lineup Saturday. yahoo!

  10. SeriousFan09 says:

    A joke is the New York Islanders, they spit in the league’s face and the fan’s faces to avoid spending money. They sent multiple players on tryout contracts in that D-squad we whipped in Quebec City and pretty much made it a giant mockery of the pre-season (an accomplishment in itself!) than using close to 6 million in buyouts from Witt/Yashin to meet the cap floor this season.

    If you watch the Devils, you get to see Parise and Kovalchuk, you watch the Islanders, you get to see their latest Top 10 pick from the draft struggle to play at a competition level he can’t handle yet, on the EL contract he’s signed to, inflated for the cap on bonus measures he’ll never meet because the team is so bad he’s lucky to get 45 points.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  11. TomNickle says:

    You don’t want to start winning trades in lopsided fashion on a consistent basis.  Or at the very least, you want the player you traded away to be somewhat productive for his new team.

    If you start hitting homeruns on trades and the other team keeps striking out, nobody will trade with you.  Darcy Regier in Buffalo doesn’t swing as many deals as he used to and that’s a big reason why.

  12. pmaraw says:

    of course they won’t notice it, its censor’d out… lol

  13. pmaraw says:

    and d’agostini scored 2 goals as st louis won 5-1, don’t ask me who was in net.

  14. HabFanSince72 says:

    Except can Spacek play Markov minutes for long?

  15. Jordio-oh says:

    Here’s a better video of the Pominville play:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xeOQhoRmbI&feature=related

     

  16. flanman says:

    Did Tony claim to know this or was he just speculating?

  17. 21BIGGionta says:

    So I’m at the John Abbott library on the computer. Everyone else around me is doing homework and I’m on this site…oops?

    anyways, carbo’s thing; boringg
    BGL; it was either he got kicked out or injured himself ;) groin

    I hate to say it.. but Avery has a point, if it was him he would be in a heep of trouble, but it’s someone else Betman isn’t even commenting on it. And something tells me it will go unnoticed, but hey thats the nhl some favourites (Crosby ovechkin….) and some like Avery (With good reason, don’t get me wrong)

  18. forskis says:

    Looking at the Devils’ situation…I do not see how it is a jome or embarassing for the League, it is a sign that the cap “works”…if you mismanage your cap and players, then you deserve to play shorthanded and lose games, otherwise the rule of not being allowed to play for being over the cap is meaningless…the Devils’ management made their bed and now they have to sleep in it.

    I think the Pominville hit is suspendable…people say that he saw it coming, I do not know about you, but if a player is 40 ft. away, I really do not think he is going to blast me into tomorrow through the boards.  The hit was from the blindside/behind and should he should get a few games…we have seen similar hits get game misconducts, but if a stretcher has to come out…suspend him.  However, I do not think that there was an intent to injure, if there was, Hjarlsson would have left his feet and annihilated him but he did not.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  19. fuhgawz says:

    yes we are winning this deal so far — i wasnt sure why Calgary ever let go of the kid in the first place and then for the Preds to do so as well made me think humm maybe he isnt very good, but so far he has been one of the best Habs this season

  20. habs03 says:

    I agree with you guys, Markov-Spacek, Hamrlik-Subban makes the most sense.

  21. SmartDog says:

    Couldn’t it be

    Markov-Spacek

    Hamrlik-PK

    ?

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  22. SeriousFan09 says:

    They won’t shift Hamrlik to the right side, it didn’t even work out that well with Spacek and I don’t think it’s been pushed for more than a game or two with Hamrlik there. If anything, JM might be tempted to begin the mentoring of Markov to Subban by pairing them up, Hamrlik-Subban, Markov-Spacek could also be pairings.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  23. pic1983 says:

    I disagree.  Whenever a player makes a hit like that, they arent exactly doing it to tickle the guy.  They are doing it to hurt them.  However, hitting is part of the game.  The only problem with the hit IMO, is that its from a funny angle.  I agree though that hjalmarasson isnt exactly a dirty player, but he should still get two games just because of the fact that it was blindside in my opinion, and pominville had to be taken off on a stretcher. 

  24. joshua94k says:

    Newsflash : Arrest warrant out for Canadiens GM Gauthier

    The Nashville police have issued an arrest warrant to the Canadiens GM Gauthier for stealing Dustin Boyd in a trade for Serge Kostitsyn. Violations include misleading the public, making false statements about player ablilities etc….

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammallerie

  25. habs03 says:

    So Tony Mariano says Markov is back on Saturday, I just hope noone gets hurt tomorrow so on Saturday we can have a full lineup! Then we can role 3 good stable d pairings, Markov-Hamrlik, Spacek-Subban,Gill Gorges. I wonder how Hamrlik is going to deal with playing the right side if he plays with Markov.

  26. JIMVINNY says:

    I don’t think there’s any way to say that WASN’T intent to injure. He came at him from 40 feet away, Pominville’s positioning never changed, and he hit him in such a way that while the head was not the principle point of contact, it certainly smashed into the boards first.
    Yes, Pommer knew he was coming, but that doesn’t excuse the hit at all. It was interference, boarding, and intent to injure all wrapped up in one. 5 games at the bare minimum.

  27. joeybarrie says:

    Very bad hit. Very ugly repercussions. However, it doesn’t look like it was his intent to injure. These guys are competitive, and sometimes you go too far. Mistakes happen, and you have a good chance for a good, BIG, and loud hit to get your team and the crowd roaring. He comes in from a bad angle and it ends up being a function of a few different things. Don’t get me wrong, he wasn’t trying to give him a handshake, let’s remember these guys go at each other with intensity. I don’t think he was trying to injure him. AGAIN, people make mistakes. I can’t remember him ever being involved in anything dirty, so… Benefit of the doubt, maybe a game suspension. But I doubt it. First offence, he will most likely get nothing, and deserve it.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  28. 123456 says:

    i can not believe people are defending the hit on pommer. it was from behind, he did not have the puck… thats a hit you just can not deliver. i lost respect for quenneville for saying it was not even a penalty. a coach needs to take the high road (as he did by saying noone wants to see a player get hurt).

     

  29. HabFanSince72 says:

    Is it time for players to sue the league, the opposing team, and the offending player in cases like Pominville’s?

    By repeatedly giving slaps on the wrists for these kinds of hits the league has essentially facilitated them.

  30. Danno says:

    Surprisingly, my wife happens to disagree with you and me :0)

     

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  31. SLONCOLD says:

    dude, you don’t get it…. it’s an illegal hit. hits like that are not part of the game. i don’t like cheap hits of that variety. i’m all for punishing hits and physical play but hits that are within the rules.

    Maybe the guy didn’t want to take his head off. However, even in that case, the hit is reckless.

     

  32. alestar says:

    …but pretty funny.

     

    XXIV…and counting

  33. sholi2000.com says:

    It’s a dollar a day to watch as much hockey as you want.  You can’t beat it!

    They Call Me Shane

  34. Fire_Laraque says:

    I’m not making a link between the players at all.  What I am saying is, we have to ask ourselves if “Army style” development fits for him.  Lemme give you an example.  We know for sure that what Martin is doing right now is not working… YET.  But maybe, just maybe, if he tried to build his confidence instead of slapping him on the fingers, he would see better results.

  35. MathMan says:

    If by “coached two other ‘stacked’ teams into oblivion” you mean “came up with a system that gave them free reign of the offensive zone and had his ass saved by unearthly goaltending”, then sure, I buy that, it worked pretty well. Montreal got thoroughly dominated in the playoffs by all three teams they face, and the real difference was the difference in goaltending. Considering how badly Montreal got shelled, it’s difficult to imagine JM could have done worse.

    I don’t see how JM deserves any credit for the playoff run, it was largely done in spite of him. However Halak, an opportunistic Cammalleri, and a ridiculous heap of plain luck hauled him there so now he’s the “coach that took the Habs to the ECF” in people’s eyes and that gave him an undeserved lease on life as the Habs coach.

    But if the Habs keep sucking five-on-five, despite a roster that’s certainly not lottery-quality, I think the coach has to be put back into question, regardless of other considerations. For my money, the Habs’ #1 area of need has been “a modern systems coach” since about halfway through last season, and it still is, except the Habs don’t have one waiting in the wings anymore.

  36. RGM says:

    I hope you realize that there are ways to disagree with someone with out being disagreeable. Calling people crybabies, saying they should be watching ringette, reaching for the tissues, all of that is incredibly off-putting and only detracts from whatever legitimate points you have to make. Your Laraque quip is absolutely 100% false in its application to me – if Zdeno Chara has a chance to level Daniel Briere in a legal fashion, drop him. And yes, there is a special emphasis put on the legal part of that – it is entirely possible for a guy that’s 6’9″ to make a devastating legal hit on somebody a foot shorter than him that will separate the player from the puck and teach him that he’d best be wary of coming into his zone. That said, yes I am amazing.

    So we are all in agreement here, nobody has said that these things will not happen in the game, but they should not happen. Players are being brought up currently with little stop signs on their backs so that they are all educated from a young age that when you see the numbers you don’t plow a guy. Unfortunately it’s a little too late for a lot of guys already in the NHL, many of whom regularly talk about the lack of respect among the players not having enough respect for one another. The game is a wonderful thing, but at the end of the day, they are all regular human beings that shouldn’t have to worry about suffering from Parkinson’s, post-concussion syndrome, and other neurologically degenerative diseases thirty years after they’re done playing hockey. And that’s regardless of whether they’re out of the game by their choice at 40, or out of it at 27 because some dummy bashed the guy’s head into the glass with an illegal hit.

    Go Habs Go!

  37. bwoar says:

    Thank you for saying so – great post!  Hockey is hockey, not Rollerball.  I wish we could bring the term ‘bodycheck’ back into style and keep stats on how many are successful, i.e. that remove the puck from an opponent AND allow the player to gain possession.

    Just slamming guys, okay it’s fun to watch and has a place as a defensive play…. but the artful bodycheck is about puck possession.  Seriously, have they stopped teaching this at the peewee level?

  38. TomNickle says:

    You come on here and call somebody who disagrees with you a little guy, say he’s crying and that he should watch another sport if he doesn’t like hitting.

    You then say that you’ve dished out and taken hits like that.  Which I highly doubt if you think it’s a good play.

    It is from behind, it is from the blindside and it immediately drew a fight because it was a gutless play.

    People that don’t enjoy watching gutless hits don’t need to stop watching hockey because you think they should.  And your thinking that it’s a good hit and condoning it is a strong indication that you’re full of it when you say you’ve taken hits like that and don’t have a problem with them.

    Anybody that’s taken a hit like that is not okay with it.

  39. bwoar says:

    I am sure that a certain “group” of fans will be on GB’s jock, no matter what the outcome.  There are 2 constants in the fanbase:

    1. Some guy on the team is always thought to be much, much worse than he is

    2. Some guy on ANOTHER team is always thought to be much, much better than he is

    I’ve stopped paying attention to the people who propagate these things.  Otherwise we’re a team full of bums and the rest of the league is stacked with Sidney Crosbys and Scott Bowmans.

    We did see a benefit from JM, he coached 2 other “stacked” teams’ coaches into oblivion.  I’m not defending his “system” but vs. Bruce Boudreau’s “system” it worked pretty well.  JM is a poor systems coach but his experience was very useful in the playoffs.  So we have seen a bit of good from it.

    I’d like to see Guy Boucher coach a team NOT full of stars, AHL or NHL.  Do I think the fans will see the end of the world if we lose on Wednesday?  Of course they will, they are programmed to complain and whine and draw conclusions based on perception rather than evidence.  It’s the national pastime.  Somehow it goes hand in hand with “Solidarité!”

  40. Max_a_million says:

    The hit wasn’t from behind.  Honestly you don’t make the nhl playing patty cake.  Of course he is going to drive through his hit. 

    You’re a real whiner buddy.  Honestly ringette does not allow hitting, and I think many of you would be happier following that. 

  41. habaddict_andy says:

    He was coming from a blind side whether Pomminville saw it coming or not.  That is a dangerous hit.  It should be common sense to players in this case to slow down.  I see some disciplinary action to send message.

    A stick on the back of the leg is not a good comparison to a check from a blind side by the way.  The retaliation had a consiquence only due to unsportsmanlike.  I doubt it would be classified as attempt to injure.

     

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  42. Natrous says:

    The hit kind of reminded me of the one on Ben Fanelli by Mike Liambas, where the kid sees the hitter coming from behind him, looks at the puck, and gets hit into the boards from the side in a bad way. The big difference is, Pominville is an experienced hockey player with enough size to absorbe the hit, where as Fanelli was just a kid who got crushed.

    Other big difference: Hjalmersson will never be suspended for a season.

  43. Storm Man says:

    I would not trade Hiller at this point. I was looking to sack Brodeur in the yahoo league but I think he and the Devils are going to bounce back.

  44. TorontoHabsFan says:

    That D is just killing them – maybe when Lilja’s visa issues clear up, Sutton’s thumb stops being broke, and Lydman’s vision ceases to be double they’ll be a bit better.

    Right now it’s ugly

    Visnovsky/Fowler/Brookbank/Festerling/Mikkelson/Mara

     

    At least that’s what I keep telling myself – surely it’s too early to sell my Ducks on name recognition only right?

  45. Rudy says:

    Thanks for ‘splainin’ this.

    I actually pay for the Center Ice Package, and it is a beautiful thing to have down here in the States. It is one of my Christmas presents :)

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  46. Dr-Watson says:

    Hey my friend, maybe so, but it is true never the less, just as he is not the right coach for this team or have you not come to that conclusion yet. This team is going no where with him and will only excel and be competitive after he is fired, that I assure you will happen before the new year or before.

  47. TomNickle says:

    Little guy?

    You’re a real winner buddy.

  48. quentin_stuckley says:

    that’s a fair assessment.

     

  49. SeriousFan09 says:

    With my luck, I’d trade Hiller and he’d tear it up for whoever I traded him to and I can’t afford to give up the point-getters I have. I’ll just have to aim long-term and hope ANA sacks Carlyle or the top line wakes up.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  50. joeybarrie says:

    To hit him HARD. That what you do. Get the crowd roaring and an attaboy from your teammates. I do not think he was thinking in his head, ‘Hey if I hit him really hard here at a bad angle, maybe he will get injured and be out for most of the season’… ‘Yes thats exactly what i want to do, really hurt this guy’….  Makes no sense.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  51. Storm Man says:

    True, I see a few teams have 3 goalies and could make a trade if the price is right.

  52. Max_a_million says:

    You can have our broken sticks for your ringette league little guy.

  53. joeybarrie says:

    I think I should point out that any instance of drinking and driving is illegal. Hitting in the NHL is not. Your using a cut and dry example in order to prove the punishment for an open to interpretation event. Maybe if Hjalm was DRUNK or on drugs would your example be something you could use.

    By the way, there would be the exact same charge of Speeding, DUI, DWI, reckless endangerment and damage to public property. The only difference is if there were people on the sidewalk it would add a separate charge of possibly manslaughter. Mostly because there was not an intent to kill…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  54. SeriousFan09 says:

    Feel your pain, took Getzlaf in two pools because I figured the Perry-Getzlaf-Ryan super line would give me good points.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  55. SLONCOLD says:

    exactly why fight when u can throw up an elbow or ruin a guys career with a hit from behind…. besides it’s not that bad of a hit when u take someones head off..

  56. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well in my defence, who the hell thought that Rick Dipietro would actually start the season able to play and leave Roloson sitting on the bench?

    Don’t mind that much, got the lead in my two other pools.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  57. SLONCOLD says:

     i say hits from behind, elbow to the head and concussions for all:-) good old hockey toughness.

  58. Storm Man says:

    Maybe you need to make a trade with one of your goalies. Im sure when you play Tom you will win that round ;).

  59. joeybarrie says:

     I noticed a post below regarding Philly putting up an Eastern Conference Champs Banner.

    They put this Banner up, because they are the Eastern Conference Champions. The Eastern Conference Champions runners up are the Montreal Canadiens.

    In the regular season there is no such thing as the Conference champions officially. You simply have the Presidents Trophy and your division championship for regular season. Everything else is for the Playoffs. That’s why the Habs had simply the Division Championship in 2007-08.

    The Flyers received THE PRINCE OF WALES trophy for winning the Conf Championship…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  60. Max_a_million says:

    Hey someone with some common sense! 

  61. HabFanSince72 says:

    Let’s say you are driving drunk and your car careens onto the sidewalk at full speed.

    Do you think the punishment would be the same if the sidewalk happened to be empty versus full of pedestrians?

     

  62. pic1983 says:

    Seriously, whats up with that?

    Ryan Getzlaf was the 2nd player i drafted (20th overall in my pool) behind ovechkin! Feeling pretty silly about that one right now.  Usually you would say “oh its early, he’ll pick it up”, but watching the way anaheim has been playing, its not very encouraging.  They truly look like they are going to be the worst team in the league this year.  Watching them play is absolutely pathetic.  St Louis not only beat them, they manhandled them!  Probably the easiest win of Halak’s career!

  63. Jordio-oh says:

    I agree. I didn’t really buy into the whole “it was his own fault” in this particular matter. Lindros cutting into the Devils zone with his head down, with Scott Stevens on lingering around, is one thing, but there’s no way its Pominvilles fault that a guy comes coasting in with speed from far out just to lay a blind side check.

  64. Max_a_million says:

    And now magically cooke wouldn’t ever do it again?

    Give me a break.  Cooke would do it again in a heartbeat. 

  65. SLONCOLD says:

    what do u think the intent of that hit was? he came in hard at full speed and from behind ( lol couldn’t help myself by wording it this way )

     

  66. Danno says:

    Ends Oct. 24

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  67. TorontoHabsFan says:

    October 24th. No way I’ll ever pay $30/month for it though…so this is pretty much it for me :)


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