AUDIO UPDATE: Halak to Blues for 2 prospects

• AUDIO: Pierre Gauthier conference call (about 20 minutes) | Jaroslav Halak

Carey, here are the keys to the car.

No pressure, eh?

Done deal.

The goaltender who won two playoff rounds has been traded to St. Louis.

Lars Eller and Ian Schultz coming this way.

Eller is a former first-round choice who hasn’t set the world on fire. He will be the Canadiens’ first Dane. Let’s hope he’s great.

Schultz is a big guy who can throw ‘em.

Bob McKenzie says Philadelphia, Tampa Bay and San Jose were in the mix.

Boone’s take

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1,282 Comments

  1. C3P1 says:

    I cannot believe it.  I may be one of the biggest price fans around, but Halak has earned a huge place in my heart for his heroics this spring.  you will be missed, jaro.  I bet the cheers will be louder for you than carey when you come back to visit.

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  2. boy from school says:

    wow. sell high.

    andy macdonald + 1st round pick?

  3. coachdoug says:

    I know this is the “logical” move…If we get Perron…not for Kariya he is a UFA this year I believe…I love Paul because of his U Maine days but too old…

    So much for the goalie controversy…

    Gonna miss Jaro…deep down I think this “logical” GM move will bite us in the @ss down the road…

  4. Chuck says:

    With the salary cap sitting where it will be, my guess is that Walsh priced him out of the market. This would also make it a lot easier to resign Pleks.

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  5. NightRyder says:

    Ty Conklin and the rights to Garry Unger.

  6. habsfansince91 says:

    the debate will never end.

  7. Don Carnage says:

    Good now maybe this will end the Halak vs Price debacle  “who am I kidding”  

     

    Hope we got something worth while in return

  8. Skotbot says:

    Hopefully this is the right move.

    As a poster said ” Sell high”

    hopefully it doesnt turn out to be ” was high when sold”

     

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  9. zozotheclown says:

    Halak is a perfect fit for St. Louis. They allow many shots and play mediocre D. Remains to be seen if what we get is a perfect fit for us. McDonald + Backes might solve our Plecks and size problem…

  10. SeriousFan09 says:

    See what comes our way. Backes would be great, just the kind of sandpaper we need on the top 6.

     

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  11. IS10 says:

    David Perron, TJ Oshie, maybe a first rounder, please please please!!! My heart was in my throat when I read this. I’m gonna miss the Bratislava Beetroot. Halak is a champ.

  12. Chuck says:

    Methinks you’re right.

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  13. wotever says:

    Oh, I thought we needed big guys, to let our scorers play. Scorer’s let’s see.  Cammy’s line is set. Gionta and Gomez were solid, but a big presence… that would be nice.  Who else needs scorers.  That leaves Plex and the 4th line.

    YOU KNOW WHAT WE NEED!  I KNOW!  GOALIES, SCORERS, AND BIG GUYS! Too bad the cap is about 15 million short of that being possible.

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  14. Chorske says:

    I think this is a disaster- and I am not even one of those 100% Team Halak dudes. It continues out longstanding tradition of bending ourselves over a barrel and mortgaging our own future while helping the competition.

    If Price thought there was pressure before… yow. Only way this made sense was if a guy like Perron was part of the mix.

    It’s an absolute crap day to be a Habs fan.

  15. Chuck says:

    No use making an offer if his agent told the Habs that they’d be going to arbitration regardless of what they were willing to pay.

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  16. wotever says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheet:

    $3,013,435 to $4,520,150 == First- and third-round pick

    This is slightly better than that because forwards traded have actual NHL numbers.

    You’ll have to speak up – I’m wearing a towel.

  17. SeriousFan09 says:

    Depends if Pleks contract is 5 and over and if Eller can live up to his prospect status. Aside, it looks like with this core, we’re definitely not contending until Kristo, Leblanc, Schultz graduate to NHL action in 2012. Habs must definitely be planning to draft at Defence with picking up only Forwards in this trade.

     

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  18. G-Man says:

    Playoffs? What playoffs? How can you make the playoffs winning 1 and losing 2 all season long?

  19. Chuck says:

    We get a 1st round pick in Eller, and a crapload of toughness in Schultz in return for a goaltender who’s agent probably priced him right out of Montreal. This probably also now allows them to deal with Pleks. I’ll take it.  

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  20. LeNordique says:

    Maybe Adam Walsh burned some bridges with Habs management.

  21. Habs22 says:

    Anyone who was expecting to get something ridiculous like David Perron or Backes and a pick in return was seriously misguided. Halak is good but why would another team give up something like that for someone who doesn’t even have a contract? You can bet he is being traded because he is asking for too much money, and he always has the option of going to the KHL where he can probably get the kind of money he wants easily.

  22. derfab says:

    Get Gauthier out.

  23. danedmunds says:

    i was thinking the same thing

  24. Chuck says:

    We get a 1st round pick in Eller, and a crapload of toughness in Schultz in return for a goaltender who’s agent probably priced him right out of Montreal. This probably also now allows them to deal with Pleks. I’ll take it.  

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  25. Mr.Hazard says:

    F*** THIS SH**

    “We didn’t give up and we are not giving up.” – Jaroslav Halak

  26. floatingineather says:

    apparently Jaro was not even offered an offer!  something somwhere went very very wrong

  27. SeriousFan09 says:

    Eller did well enough in his first AHL season and the Rivermen aren’t a very good AHL club from my understanding, switching to the Dogs may be a good change of scenery and Schultz seems likeable but his top season was as an over-ager in the WHL, both will join the Bulldogs likely but we’re not getting anything back to help our roster right away.

     

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  28. sprague cleghorn says:

    Ouch.

  29. sims says:

    wouldnt losing him to an offer sheet have been better?

  30. danedmunds says:

    i love peoples comments before eller and shultz news was releaseed saying, oshie!!! backes!! perron!!! maybe a first round pick too!! haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahaha how about 2 guys the majority of you have never heard of!!   i understand what happened here but we’ll be hard pressed to find someone that thinks this was a good trade…………… we can all thank the gomez contract for this crap

  31. LeNordique says:

    Commence poop flinging in 3…2…1…

    And pour out some chocolate milk for Halak.  I’ll miss the guy.

  32. Habs4ever Fan says:

    I love Carey Price.

    This is what he needed to show the world just how lousy a goalie he truly is

    Habs lose in 4 opening round of the 2011 playoffs

    Carey Price will be pulled 3 times

    Gautier….thank you from all the Habs fans who wanted to get contracts for seats at the Bell Center as there will be tickets availble to all for 2011/12

  33. floatingineather says:

    good grief,,, these are 2 young young guys, not much that helps us right now

  34. LeNordique says:

    A fellow UMaine fan?  I remember the 42-1-2 year well, too bad Jim Montgomery never worked out in the NHL

  35. JasonM says:

    From first perspective this screams salary dump to me. It’s
    hard not to think that St. Louis
    got the upper hand in this exchange as it is hard not to think that a pair of
    unproven prospects can equal to an established NHL goaltender that carried his
    team to the semi-finals robbing the Eastern Conference champions as well as the
    defending champions.

     

    Halak doesn’t come without his faults but I thought we could
    have gotten much more than what the Blues offered. Mind you, I’m excited about Ian
    Schultz. A big boy with a dog eat dog attitude that will willingly throw
    punches at people who cross him or his team. He’ll win his battles and STILL
    manage to put goals into the net. He’s a little bit like a young Chris Nilan
    and the Habs can surely use someone like that.

     

    In regards to Lars Eller, well I can’t put myself in either
    camp just yet. He seems to do well in the World Juniors however he’s been slow
    at developing and needs to live up to his first round selection. He sorely
    needs to play in North America as the speed of
    the game was a factor when he was called up. An allround skilled forward with
    good speed and work ethic he plays the game such as you’d see such like Plekanec
    that will dirty his nose more. Good on shorthanded situations.

     

    Overall, this deal looks and smells lousy but let’s be
    honest, we can’t say we didn’t expect this. I just figured they would have
    gotten a bit more for Halak.

     

    Thanks for the years Jaroslav!

     

  36. gohabzzzz says:

    well then. the debates gone. price is the man. i’ll miss halak. I miss halak. i just hope that our freaking develpment people can do something, cuz i’m just scared that eller could be another dud. he’s young….but we need an immediate impact.

    three way deal? o.O

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  37. Kristopher7 says:

    The debate’s over, we’re banking on Price for the next cup from now on… but EPIC FAIL, Halak is the shizz.

  38. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pierre Lebrun tweets Lars Eller and Ian Schultz in return, I think we
    just got hosed, great. Gauthier is not making me feel good right now.

    Hockey’s
    Future profiles for Eller and Schultz, with IHDB career stats for Eller and Schultz.

     

     

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  39. likehoy says:

    i was talking about dealing with st-louis a while back, and my pick would have been berglund…let’s hope we get him!!

  40. Habs4ever Fan says:

    Yah now we will have Price vs Price debacle.

    Bet you the fool signs MAB now to a 2 year 3 million dollar deal

  41. Caper says:

    Bought my kid a Price jersey last year. Figured we we’re changing to Cammy. I still halak the Price jersey.

  42. SLONCOLD says:

    i think the logic right now is that people were expecting a roster player. not prospects…. If halak can continue to play the way he did this year, St louis clearly wins the trade. But right now we gave up one of our best players for for 2 guys who may be nhlers(eller seems to have more upside that the other guy).

    I would like to add to the rest, carey is not going to come cheap. expect him to get a 4yr/13M deal. Starters in the nhl all make about 3 million. if the habs try to low ball him which they can’t because he is really their only option now, he’ll hold out or demand a trade….

     

  43. Bugs says:

    “The prior government has stagnated until it found itself on the edge of the abyss!

    “We say: Let us take a step forward!”

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

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  44. likehoy says:

    I have to mention that the habs must have been scouting lars eller for a while. we traded d’agostini for aaron palushaj (st.louis blues prospect) earlier this year, which means the habs have been scouting peoria for a while. habs must have really liked lars eller to make a move for him.

  45. HabsfaninMA says:

    McKenzie, Bowman and McGuire. Wow. If they said it then it must be gospel truth.

  46. twocents says:

    At this moment if they didn’t, they’d be fools.

  47. kordic says:

    Everybody who Is against this trade should take a chill pill. We have acquired a scorer..with size…hopefully and a power forward, fighter, grinder..with size. How Is this bad!!!! We were a joke In the playoffs, all we had was Camm and halak. We have a 22 year old Goalie who has won at every level!!! Give the guy a chance, He Is a Kid. Goalies mature later on and he Is CANADIAN!!!!

    We scored today. This was a good trade because we need the two things we acquired and we gave them a guy who had two great rounds and 1 decent year.

     

     

     

     

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  48. ed lopaz says:

    Price is 22, Halak is 25.

    When price turns 25 he will asking for 5 million.

    its the going price for a solid #1 – around there.

    I agree about the games played.

    60 is a good number, 22 for the back-up.

    but then you can’t have a 800,000 back up playing 22 games either.

    I’m out to walk my dog and think this one over.

    Backes for Price – much better trade for me.

    Habs hockey = Smart hockey we work as a team, and we win as a team. we play 5 man defence – not just 2. we play with energy, we

  49. Anonymous says:

    Imagine this, if you can. we give Price a couple years to get better and we keep improving on our core so that when both are ready we can make a run. Think about that logic.

  50. Just A Guy says:

    I really want Horton on the habs. If for this reason only

     

    http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&safe=off&q=tammy+plante&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=64859eb088067d3

     

    Also, he’s got a mean streak, can score goals and at the risk of repearing myself, married a playboy model with a hockey pedigree. We need to get this guy out of Florida and make sure his kids start playing hockey at a young age.

     

    I know! after considering this… Halak who? I know Gauthier said we have two young players that will help the habs success for years to come, but thats all smoke and mirrors boys!

  51. doogmac says:

    if i remember correctly, you can’t give offer sheets until july 7 or something like that. a team cant give an offer sheet right now. plus if somebody signs price for 4.5 mil, they have to give up a first rounder, a second AND a third. i dont see any team giving that much for that reason

  52. terrygain says:

    Talk is cheap. Getting screwed is expensive.

  53. habsgod says:

    then you don’t trade halak to them plain and simple!

  54. ZepFan2 says:

    “Time to let a little part of us die”

    Bahahahahaha

    Talk about over the top.

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  55. Bugs says:

    If by “neat”, you mean ridiculous, I agree.

    Koivu? C’mon, Biggy.

    Biggy?

    C’mon. Turn the page already.

    Now KOVALEV though!…

    (just kiddin)

    Turn the page.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

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  56. adam76 says:

    None of those even come close to  equaling Halaks.  Two from that clip were from preseason.

  57. ooder says:

    “As usual time will tell”

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  58. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    I am on the St. Louis website right now, and apparently Ellers is their P.K. Subban type of hype prospect.

  59. BeachHabFan says:

    well, that was a relaxing four weeks. ooof. i can’t say i like the trade, but i understand why it gets done. we’re not the only team losing a saviour, either – mason basically got the blues into the playoffs on his own two years ago. i hope to god/allah/buddha/vishna/yaweh/any deity that will listen that Gauthier signs a veteran to mentor price so he gets back into form. that’s about all i can say, other than a big thank you to Jaro for his blue-collar work ethic the past few seasons, for never beaking off about playing time, for coming up big in the playoffs this year and for embodying the class that the habs have historically lived up to in the past. he, gio and cammy brought the team back to life, and i’m hoping that carey learned a lot while watching from the bench…

  60. Bugs says:

    Now THIS is the moment to watch basketball: with 5 minutes left in the 7th game of the Final.

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

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  61. Ian Cobb says:

    You guys wonder who Lars Eller is.

    You wanted a power forward for two years now. Well I will take this guy for Halak straight up. We stole him from St. Louis.

    Two years and you will have forgotten all about Halak. check this out!!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ujJGvvC_c

  62. yathehabsrule says:

    Though surprised, Halak wished Price the best of luck and also mentions that the trade was for the best.

    Not sure if it was lost in translation but when talking about the call from Gauthier, he mentions something along the line of “two trades”. Maybe he meant two players, but Bob McKenzie mentioned that Tampa and San JOse were other possibilities.

     

     

     

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  63. Just A Guy says:

    you know whats coming indeed, you really really do.

  64. SLONCOLD says:

    however, under 3.9M per season is just a 1st and a 3rd. i could see a team offering that just to force MTL to match it. lol that would be hilarious… but you would have to think that a price contract will be announced by the middle of next week

  65. coachdoug says:

    LMAO at the Avatar!…well played…well said…well spoken…

  66. mirena09 says:

    I admire what you have done here.

  67. alestar says:

    no…Backes is a good player, but compared to Price’s potential…no, not awesome (IMHO)

     

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  68. puck face says:

    i think the hab’s dominant player drought makes us believe every trade is the big one we’ve been waiting for and the reality is we were never going to get a big name for our goalies but reality in habs land can be a little alice in wonderland sometimes so when we didn’t recognize the name we went a little chicken little but this has a chance of being a good trade for montreal. also if Halak turns out to be a mediocre goalie would you be surprised? didn’t think so.

  69. Favorite Son says:

    Can you blame them? PG traded Halak not too long after what he did in the playoffs…It’s still fresh in our minds. I’m not saying Halak is the only reason we went far, but he was a huge contributor to the success. And then they just trade him like nothing.

  70. adam76 says:

    From a CAPS fan:

    Well that’s a smart move… trading away your emerging star goaltender who took out the reigning stanley cup champion penguins and the president trophy winner capitals practically by himself.

  71. swanna09 says:

    I admire what you have done here.

  72. Ian Cobb says:

    CRY baby CRY. What a fan!! Neg,  Neg,  Neg

  73. TripleX says:

    Does anyone know why PG has an offseason home in Philadelphia?  Is he married to an American woman or does he just love the Flyers…..LMAO

     

     

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  74. Anonymous says:

    ok, I never watched it anyway, I just picked a video. It’s easy to do. More or less to make a point.

  75. puck face says:

    LOL eklund just posted a blog about how the habs are lost and heading in the wrong direction with this trade. so since he’s always wrong……….

  76. SLONCOLD says:

    Yes and that was in the juniors. As we all know the nhl is a different game. Time will tell about him. Pouliot was supposed to be a can’t miss prospect as well and he struggled after his quick start.

     

  77. Y says:

    Must be the only scout they have left

  78. crabvader says:

    Your obsession over the matter won’t make Halak come back.

    Crying about it to us won’t bring any sense of satisfaction…unless you’re deranged.

    My suggestion is to get over it.

  79. spos080808 says:

    I do not get why many of you are bashing this trade.

    1) Halak has not proven himself to be a #1 guy. He played what, 43 games this regular season (His most ever). He has NEVER proven he can handle a full season under his belt. Jim Carey, Raycroft etc…I am not saying he will fall into this category, but one hot spring is nothing compared to being THE GUY for an entire season. No one has any idea at all if he can handle 65+ games over a regular season then playoffs.

    2) Halak did perform very well in the playoffs but he also stunk it up numerous times. He was pulled in each series! Also, we all know goalies can get on a hot streak come playoff time and win it all by themselves…Plus one playoff season means NOTHING in the long term.

    3) He is going to get a nice payday. He is probably looking for a deal like Hiller got with the Ducks. Sorry, but not worth it! He has done nothing to prove he is worth that kind of money over numerous seasons. How can anyone justify him getting a deal worth like $4 million a season? I mean come on. And lets not forget, his agent is a clown and very difficult to deal with. He is also a RFA and arbitration eligible, so he really did have all the power.

    4) The team got the Blues top prospect. A prospect that ALL Blues fans are  very upset to see leave bc they expect good things from him. If anyone thought the Habs would get a Jeff Carter etc for Halak then you are all drunks!

    5) As for Price. Yes, he is not 100% proven either. It was a pick your posion type thing. He will be signed CHEAPER than Halak, he has in fact been a winner in the world juniors and AHL, and led the Canadiens to the #1 seed only a few short seasons ago. Also he was an all-star (Yes the voting by Habs fans) BUT his stats that first half season were incredible before he got injured…

    So it was either Price or Halak to be shipped out. And based on everything from contracts, to the return for who would be traded, to long term future etc etc, I think they made the right choice. Only time will tell, but again the people going crazy about this need to realize Halak has never proven himself to be the man, so it is a little ridiculous to go crazy and bash the Habs for what they did.

  80. terrygain says:

    Given what we got for the best goal tending performance in the playoffs since 1993 we’ll be lucky to get a bag of pucks for our most skilled player and his kid brother. Their trade value has been destroyed by an incompetent coach.

  81. JIMVINNY says:

    Anyone watching the NBA game 7?  I can’t believe how many more calls go in favour of the Lakers.  It’s clear who the NBA wants winning this title.

  82. coachdoug says:

    It’s a reverse criticism…means it was a brilliant move by PG…Eklund saw it coming a mile away…he didn’t want to spill the beans though…

  83. spos080808 says:

    There is a reason why ALL Blues fans are very sad to see Eller go. The kid can flat out play the game. Obviously the NHL is diff. from every other league, but that is why every single player from Sid to OV to Hall are called prospects. This kid is going to be a very solid player for many years!

  84. crabvader says:

    Eklund just put his infamous stamp on our two new youngsters’ careers!

    Lars Eller and Ian Schultz will be some of the best Habs ever!

    Thank you, Eklund.

  85. kordic says:

    Boston had just as many MAKE UP CALLS. It reminds me of our sport doesn’t it.

     

     

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  86. Anonymous says:

    You’re saying what few of us are thinking.

  87. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    haha! Sorry bud, I know everyone is frustrated right now – I should stop all the rumor talk.

  88. slamtherimtim says:

    a bag of pucks would have been nice

  89. spos080808 says:

    WHAT!?

    The Habs are lucky they got a top prospect from the Blues. You do realize the most games Halak has ever played in the NHL was 43 right? Hardly being “the man”. Yes he looked good in the playoffs the team played a perfect system in front of him and he was also pulled in each series…He has proven nothing! He is a total question mark going forward…Not too mention he is gonna get a big pay day, one in which, he has not deserved.

  90. SeriousFan09 says:

    From a fanbase that’s 90% bandwagon, who gives a ****.

    They should focus on other things, like finding a reliable playoff goalie themselves and a coach who can work up a defensive scheme.

     

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  91. andrewberkshire says:

    all due respect to Carey Price’s “potential”. It’ll mean squat if he gets shelled and chased from the net night in and night out.”

    Price was pulled the exact same number of times as Halak last season (in the regular season, add 3 more for Halak in the playoffs).

  92. adam76 says:

    he wanted Halak in Chicago

  93. SeriousFan09 says:

    Eklund doesn’t know ****. Picking names out of a hat would have been just as accurate, he ‘broke’ the Halak trade 15 minutes after it was all over the place.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
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  94. kordic says:

    Bryant Is awesome!!!! I’m so proud he’s a wop.

     

     

     

    The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  95. Storm Man says:

    Most of the Halak fans here cant read.

  96. SeriousFan09 says:

    Scoring is always worth something, it’s goaltenders that never drum up real value.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
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  97. Anonymous says:

    Any canadian player in hockey can beat the best players from around the world. Ryan White or Ovechkin? 100 times out of 100 Ryan White is the best option…..

  98. coachdoug says:

    I say crank up the rumor mill when it get’s boring!…anything but Boone’s lame soccer blog…

  99. Just A Guy says:

    Almost a thousand posts in, what, I think the trade was announced around 4pm, and its 7:30 as a write this? 3 and a half hours for all the lunatics to come out jumping off the bandwagon as if the flagship Habsana was about to sink. You can accusme me of polishing the brass on the titanic as it sinks.

     

    This is an excellent trade in a market flooded with decent goaltenders. Halak was going to demand way too much because, in the end, this is a professional sports league and an arbitrator would have put him outside of the Habs Price range. All puns intended. I’m not going to defend Price, because he doesn’t need it.

     

    So many of you are so convinced Gauthier is incapable of making a sound decision so the obvious conclusion is that this obviously must be a monumental mistake. I think I even read that this trade resembles the Roy trade when the habs were forced to do make a deal. This was a conscious decision based on foresight and Halak is not our saviour, he would even say he’s .. just a guy. He is by no means a proven asset and the blues haven’t even signed him yet. Get real folks, GREAT move.

  100. JIMVINNY says:

    After his blog yesterday about how Montreal was leaning towards moving Price, he probably feels like a huge tool, since that was clearly never the case.  Whatever he needs to do to make himself feel better is what he’ll do.

  101. Anonymous says:

    Seems like deja-vu

  102. Caper says:

    Anyone remember Steve Penny? We all thought he was the second coming as well.

  103. Mr. Biter says:

    Yes a very surprising deal. I thought we could have gotten more for Halak than 2 prospects , i thought he would fetch more than that. having said that having him in Philly or Tampa would not help us at all. Probably a cap issue and as some have mentioned we could have lost both goalies. Also he has been traded not sighed. If the Blues cannot sign him (probably unlikly but not out of the relm of possibilities) he still becomes a RFA July 1 (and we have 2 prospects) and we will see what his value is. This opens the cap space to sign Plecks (who I’m not convinced is worth $5M per season but that’s open for debate) and who knows prehaps there are more trades coming to bring  in another top 6 player (aka. power forward who can score and protect our skill players). I also saw C. Desjardins play twice vs. the Moose and he is a very good young (here we go again) goalie who could be our back up next year. We will have to wait till after July 1 and then wait till next October to see how everything works out either good or bad.

    Should make for a verrrrry interesting summer on HIO.

    Also in closing prehaps talks were held between Halak’s agent and PG, $$$$ figures were mentioned and PG got what he could. We will never know.

  104. Storm Man says:

    Stop your crying, Next time I will take a pepsi when I order from you.

  105. likehoy says:

    you’ve never handed in a final report that was your best work, but still fail the class?

  106. Ian Cobb says:

    Y

    We have one of the best scouting staffs in the league, ding ding. Your just making noise!

  107. BeachHabFan says:

    um, no – real habs fans have been saying give gainey time to build the team. and most fans didn’t even know gauthier worked there until he took over. i do love how you blame gainey for the trade, though. classic!

    i’m hoping with the extra cap space we find a top 6 fwd so we can actually pressure oppoents in their zone and avoid giving up 40-50 shots a game. The flyers and hawks made the finals with 2nd string goalies, while brodeur ad luogo watch from the golf course. Maybe there’s something to that. 

  108. coachdoug says:

    If nothing else PG has resuscitated HIO…all that lame soccer blogging was a sorry replacement for goalie feuds, trade rumors, arm chair GMing, and general whining about the state of our blessed Habs…

    Thank you PG!  What you got for us tomorrow????

  109. Anonymous says:

    In all honesty st. louis gave up more than they wanted to.

  110. Shiloh says:

    I’ve been a Habs fan for over 50 years and this is the saddest day for the team in that 50 years. Where did we get this kind of culture as an organization? Gainey made the horrific decision to use the #5 overall pick to draft a goaltender. Then Price didn’t pan out. Then Halak bailed us out for two seasons. But the regime of Gainey/Gauthier just can’t admit they were wrong. So we lose a fabulous young talent for two minor leaguers a week after we lose one of the best young coaches around. Just sad. I hope that the new owners will clean house soon and bring in a competent management team.

    HAlak was so good. St. Louis stole him. I hope Price can play half decent, but if not maybe Desjardins can pick up the slack. Of course that would probably generate another 4 years of controversy with yet another goalie outplaying St. Carey – and with this management team Price will play for 20 years even when he sucks, like he did for the better part of the last two years.

  111. megagoten says:

     

    we are blinded by his absolutely super-nova performance in the playoffs

    “But talking to people around the Habs during the playoff run and to
    scouts Thursday, not everybody was sold on Halak over the long term.

    One Eastern Conference scout said he wondered about Halak’s ability
    to be a number one goaltender over the course of an entire season and
    then still have the ability to bring it in the playoffs. Fair enough.
    Halak has never – not in any season season since 2003-04 when he was a
    junior in his native Slovakia – played more than 47 games in a regular
    season.”

    http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/chris_stevenson/2010/06/17/14431061.html

  112. JIMVINNY says:

    Cry me a river.  Should have known you’d be singing the blues.  Saddest day in 50 years?  Get some perspective.  Please.

  113. kordic says:

    I loved Steve penny!! I still remember the song that Cbc played about him “Let’s hear it for the boy”

     

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  114. Anonymous says:

    Seriously

  115. terrygain says:

    Game 5? Short term memory problems? He only stopped 53 shots in game 6.

  116. JIMVINNY says:

    A post on Hockeybuzz (I know, I know…) says that it’s confirmed that the Blues were asking for Price first.  Can anyone else support this?

  117. SeriousFan09 says:

    Worst in 50 years? Sorry but that is the biggest pile of crap ever. The greatest mistake was Bowman passed over for the GM position on Pollock’s retirement, 2nd-largest was the Houle/Tremblay administration that cost us Roy. 3rd-largest was the exodus of skill in the 90s.

    Fact: No impact NHLer exists from the 2005 draft class following the No. 5 pick except Anze Kopitar. The true blunder was Andrei Kostitsyn in 2003 over several superior players, a player you love and defend to no end at times. The No. 5 pick wasn’t wasted nearly as badly as that #10 pick has turned out to be.

    Go root for Leafs if you’re going to be this delusional about things, you’d fit right in.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  118. Caper says:

    LOL-Seriously. He had that great playoff run then -see ya!!!

  119. Anonymous says:

    Don’t be dissin’ Tony he knows his shit

  120. crabvader says:

    Watching Schultz fight…. DUDE this guy can finish em!!!

  121. joeybarrie says:

    I said it before and I will say it again. Who could we have traded for that would not have made it IMPOSSIBLE to sign Pleks???

    It seems like this kid is pretty good. And the other one seems not too bad either. If he is co-captain of a team that almost won the Memorial Cup, then we havent done too poorly.

    You would think the world has ended… It is unknown that Halak can even be a number 1 goalie for the years to come. You think one season of play equals a franchise player???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  122. Don Carnage says:

    I said it before I say it again if MR and I say MR Scotty Bowman says Price is the one to watch I will go with his word, and trust he might know a little bit more about hockey and hockey players over anyone who posts here.

  123. Anonymous says:

    I think most of the suggestions for us to assemble an all star team are from fans that understand very little about how a salary cap actually works, considering the rest of their knowledge they would be better off watching the NYY where those lofty dreams are possible.

  124. ooder says:

    with all due respect Shiloh it’s hard to say that a 22 year old didn’t pan out.

    many things change when a player gets older and we will see how carey will be when he is 25

    as for Halak, I wish him all the best and hope he succeeds in St. Louis.

    I just think that the habs couldn’t afford him.

    also I hope the new kids pan out

    ——————

    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  125. derfab says:

    If there is a flood, you get to higher ground, keep your goalie and dump Pleks.

  126. terrygain says:

    His perspective is spot on.  It’s yours that sucks.

  127. Ian Cobb says:
    John Davidson comments on Halak trade

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ujJGvvC_c

  128. crabvader says:

    WHEN Schultz makes it to the NHL, I am betting money that he will beat the hell out of Lucic.

    It’s nice that he has some offensive upside so he isn’t all-goon.

  129. kordic says:

    You’re right.

    Carey Price Is the real deal, Halak was always the understudy. Price has tooooooooooo much upside to give up on him at 22, just the fact that he Is Canadian Is enough to keep him.

     

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  130. Cam_1 says:
    I
    understand the support for Halak..I too am a Halak fan/supporter. Halak
    .924 save percentage Price .912 save percentage. – Halak 2.40 GAA Price
    2.77 GAA. This is not about support for Halak, It’s about pre maturally
    shitting on Price !!!
    He won a Gold medal for our country..show some respect ! I know that was then and this now..but he still has it in him…I did not see make much mistakes in 2nd half last year…he did real well…and if you are realistic you will realize that.
  131. Mr. Biter says:

    If he can do that 30 times a year welcome to Montreal. Hell of a shot. Was it at the world Juniors or Mens world championshops?

  132. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Time will tell if Price is only half as decent as Halak.

  133. megagoten says:

    and have him force you into arbitration for 4M$ and have 7 m$ left for signing 14 players RFAs, excluding pleks, pouliot moore/metro?

  134. moonkid says:

    It’s a shame to lose Halak, and I’ll miss him, but I understand the reasoning behind it.  It is a business after all.

    As for his replacement, I wonder if Theodore would want to come back?  I don’t know how cheap he’d be, but having a veteran goalie who knows what it’s like to play in Montreal might be a good thing for Price. Just spitballin’ here.

    I think Price is a good goalie, he just needs to get his head together.

  135. Les Habitants says:

    Ah, Dec 6 1995…..

    look it up

     

     

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  136. Caper says:

    I like both of them. I’d be happy with either of them. To me it’s a toss up. Sportsnet reported the Blues called asking for Price.

  137. HabsfaninMA says:

    No, I doubt that’s it. Marshmallow man is smiling. The picture of Price most likely has the deer in the headlights look.

  138. HardHabits says:

    As much as I agree with what you’re saying, it’s funny how you bring up 2003 when it suits your argument yet you bemoan others for mentioning that year’s draft when they mention A. Kostitsyn vs. everyone else the Habs could’ve drafted that year.

    Just sayin’ is all. ;-)

  139. ari says:

    ALL THESE DAYS WE WERE THINKING ABOUT CARTER ,1ST ROUND PICK OF OILERS,PENNER,…………….AND THIS!

  140. madmat411 says:

    ok wow seriously? I hardly think that was needed….HALAK WOULD HAVE STABBED THE HABS IN THE BACK WHEN HE WOULD LEAVE WHEN HIS CONTRACT IS UP!

  141. kordic says:

    We need TRUE FANS!!!! not impersonators. I have been ripping my hair out for a number of years, but I will never leave my Habs. WIN OR LOSE.

     

     

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  142. SLONCOLD says:

    time will tell, not enough NHL numbers ( 7 game) to convince me he is a sure thing.

     

  143. Caper says:

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thank you.

  144. derfab says:

    Some bitterness stems from the fact that many wanted halak signed 6 months ago. Gauthier-Gainey blew it and lost a very proven goaltender who has progressed and been stellar at every level for 3 years.

  145. terrygain says:

    AK’s had one really good season, which is disappointing (even with his serious injuries) but still one more than # 5 pick Price.

  146. JIMVINNY says:

    Now that is pitiful.  If all his support relied on one player, I don’t want him as a habs fan.

  147. madmat411 says:

    Man, I’ve been looking for a guy like you to say that! I’ve been saying that all along! GIVE PRICE A CHANCE TO REGAIN HIS SPOT!

  148. Shiloh says:

    The biggest pile of crap ever is your post. We’d have missed the playoffs the last two years without Halak – and then you and all the Price apologists would be whining up a storm. We just dealt our most valuable player for a couple of minor leaguers. If you’re happy about that then you cheer more for Price than the team – and maybe you should jump on the Leafs’ bandwagon. Serious fan my a$$!

  149. adam76 says:

    true – too bad its not 1975

  150. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    That is just disgraceful man.

    I would stick with this team even if we give away Cammalleri for conditional 7th round pick.

    After all, I am in love with the team not the player.

    I am sure many of us here are true Habs fans. I’d just like to see more.

  151. punkster says:

    Ian, have you ever seen him or heard of him? Know anything about him apart from this? I trust your view and opinion please.

    FREE TIMO!

  152. Fabio D says:

    I stand corrected. Just hope its not the shallow end.

  153. Don Carnage says:

    Biron

  154. SeriousFan09 says:

    A so-called fan’s ‘support’ is up for sale? Who gives a ****.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  155. SLONCOLD says:

    lol he doesn’t need a chance to regain it. it was just given back to him.

  156. Caper says:

    And we all know more? Give me a break.

  157. kordic says:

    kOBE iS JESUS AND LAKERS WIN!!!

     

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  158. sholi2000.com says:

    you got that right!

    They Call Me Shane

  159. Omit says:

    People better realize that players become free agents at 25-26 years old according to the contract negotiated by the NHLPA  and the league, so I consider them to be exactly what they purport to be – mercenaries.

    As far as I’m concerned, they are meat to be bought and sold. 

  160. JIMVINNY says:

    Do you know what the word means?  Calling the trade of a RFA goalie, in a market where goalies are worth next to nothing, the saddest day in 50 years of habs history is a farce.  As is your attempt at an insult.

  161. JIMVINNY says:

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Turco here, either.  He could teach Price a thing or two about handling the puck.  Price already has a lot of skill in that area, and with the talk of getting rid of the ridiculous trapeziod behind the net, a skilled puck handling goalie could be a huge asset going forward.

  162. andrewberkshire says:

    And the hyperbolic and irrational Shiloh strikes again. This is the saddest day in the last 50 years? Sadder than trading Roy? Sadder than trading Chelios? Give me a ***ing break. Halak was great in two rounds this year but he’s hardly the biggest name to leave this club in 50 years, he isn’t even the biggest piece to leave the club in the last 15.

  163. adam76 says:

    he had three seasons an more starts then he should have – and he still failed.

  164. JIMVINNY says:

    Nobody said they were happy about it.  But bemoaning it the way you are is ridiculous.

  165. sholi2000.com says:

    Hard to take your opinion when you offered me Price’s jock, gross! LOL

    They Call Me Shane

  166. Caper says:

    Come on. How do you think we got screwed?

  167. SLONCOLD says:

    add those olympic games in as well

  168. spos080808 says:

    And what makes you think Halak can be a bona fide #1? He has never played more than 43 games in a regular season. How do you know he can handle 65+ games in a season and then be good for the playoffs?…And at about $4 million per season for multiple years nonetheless.

  169. SLONCOLD says:

    turco is too expensive….. and price is your starter and nhl starters get 3m+ a year

  170. JIMVINNY says:

    So according to some Ron Fournier (Ex-referee, and trusted source by many) comments on CKAC, the Blues were willing to part with Perron if it was Price going their way. 

     

    Discuss…

  171. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Price was sensational in his rookie season. Not his fault in 07-08.

  172. Hockey Socks says:

    Actually I’m a Habs fan, not a Halak fan.

  173. terrygain says:

    Dryden played behind Robinson, Savard and Lapointe. He was just an average goalie –  as he proved in the Canada Cups.

  174. SeriousFan09 says:

    Even I’m admitting at this point that AK was a waste, but the point is if Shiloh is going to be delusional and talk about the worst move in 50 years and bemoan where Price is drafted from compared to where one of his favourites was drafted at in 2003, it’s a point I need to make.

    I lost patience with AK by the end of the playoffs.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  175. HabsfaninMA says:

    That’s two goalies now that have been traded to give Carey the throne.

  176. JIMVINNY says:

    Nobody with a rational cell in their bodies thought we’d get any of those guys.

  177. Don Carnage says:

    The stat is great when you see that in games that Price was playing in the Habs failed to score a single goal in something like 10 games and lost a crap load of games by one goal.

     

    If the guys dont score no goalie in the world is going to win .

  178. havok says:

    Ron Fournier clained he spoke to the Blues 3 months prior and said they went HARD for Price…

  179. madmat411 says:

    I mean by the fans, the people…he has a rocky start of his career, but so did Luongo, Thomas just to name a few…

  180. terrygain says:

    Right. But they’re worth a high draft pick. 

  181. JIMVINNY says:

    Not after mediocre seasons.  And Turco has made his money.  If it gets to july 5th and he hasn’t gotten any offers, which I see as highly likely, he’ll take 1.5 mil to be a mentor and play 20 games.

  182. SLONCOLD says:

    lol good one

  183. ari says:

    SERIOUSLY,THIS IS THE SAddest one,come on.chelios,roy,………and this one

  184. moonkid says:

    Yeah, Turco might be good too, but I’m kind of afraid he’ll be too expensive.

    I just hope they can do something to get Price back on track, because we’ll need him playing the way he’s meant to.

    It feels like he’s never recovered from dropping that puck in Game 5 against Boston in ’08.

  185. SmartDog says:

    Would not be suprising. Gauthier said he had decided to trade Halak not Price.  Doesn’t matter what people asked for, only Halak was on the table.  And Montreal had a pretty good pantry.

     

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  186. Les Habitants says:

    No disrespect Harditya, but wasn’t 07-08 his rookie year?

     

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  187. BrianSkrudland says:

    Kobe is not Jesus, but close to John the Baptist. MJ was the closest to perfection on the court. As a life-long MJ fan, I must  begrudgingly (sp?) admit that Kobe is pretty damn amazing (for a dirty SOB!)

    I’ll miss Jaro. He handled himself like a pro, both on the ice and while dealing with the rest of the nonsense that comes with being a part of Habs Nation.

    Please keep Pleks!

    Is being a legitimate Habs fan great, or what?! It should truly be an item to check-off on a life insurance form.

    Long live HIO. This is a truly great and incomparible site on the web for NHL discussion, particularly related to the Habs.

     

    I’ve made mistakes while posting, as many have. Let’s have fun and not be jerks. Enjoy it all and love our team.

     

    BTW – Goodfellas is playing on Spike. Top five movie folks! A worthy distraction tonight! (For those of you that read, it’s a great book too!)

  188. HabsfaninMA says:

    I don’t believe this at all. Come on….

  189. kordic says:

    kORDIC WON A STANLEY CUP!! Who are you?. He was a great Hab, he never wanted to leave. He didn’t just leave his favorite team, he left life.

     

     

    “The ghosts are gone. The Canadiens have two choices, try and win the cup or be French Canadian” – Ken Dryden

  190. adam76 says:

     I have purchased 1000 Lars Eller tee shirts.   If anyone is interested, email me.  

     

    Should be as good as an investment as my BP stock.

  191. megagoten says:

    what’s huet been doing meanwhile?

  192. SeriousFan09 says:

    Most Valuable Player remains Andrei Markov, who has been the engine of this team since the lockout. With Huet, Price or Halak, he kept the back end stabilized, lifted 2nd-rate defencemen to higher status and maintained a PP that gave out scoring that put Montreal in the post-season 4 years out of the last 5. No Markov, no playoffs, it is a binary state.

    You just stated that the biggest mistake was moving a goaltender with two seasons under his belt, neither of which he started more than 50 games and has a total of 9 playoff wins, versus skipping over Scotty Bowman as GM, Patrick Roy Trade, moving Chris Chelios, all our talent in the 90s not named Koivu was the worse thing ever. That is delusional beyond belief.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  193. Don Carnage says:

    Martin Biron is a great team guy and would be a perfect fit in the dressing room and at something like 1.5 million sounds good to me.

    If you need to play the language card when I play a hockey card its because you are part of the problem we have in Montreal and Quebec your no better than a racist.

  194. HabsfaninMA says:

    Right. And the Habs really lit it up in the Flyers series for Halak. Poor Carey.

  195. moonkid says:

    To be honest, those stats are pretty much moot.  For better or for worse, this is Price’s team now.

  196. Hockey Socks says:

    Man, I’m so happy with this trade! Made my day. Thanks for the memories, Jaro!

  197. EricInStL says:

    If Schultz makes the team they should give him #8…..

  198. derinas50 says:

    I admire what you have done here.

  199. andrewberkshire says:

    How ridiculous man. I hope you don’t believe that’s what’s going on here.

  200. Cam_1 says:

    He did not fail season one…and he did not fail last year…look at his numbers that says it all. Screw the wins in the win column..that is a reflection of total team play…where was the goal support for him last year…do you know how many one goal and shutout games he would have had to pitch to win. Stop being a blind Hater !!!

  201. Cam_1 says:

    He did not fail season one…and he did not fail last year…look at his numbers that says it all. Screw the wins in the win column..that is a reflection of total team play…where was the goal support for him last year…do you know how many one goal and shutout games he would have had to pitch to win. Stop being a blind Hater !!!

  202. SeriousFan09 says:

    The Stick boy did more in CHI to earn the Cup than Huet did.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  203. Omit says:

    Don,

    Your post will be ignored because the people who bash Price don’t quite know how to get around this fact about Bowman’s opinion of Price.  They prefer to say ignorant remarks about Price because it’s their way of going after the Habs management for ruining their lives.

  204. Cookies says:

    I just heard that Halak wasn’t even approached since the playoff run regarding the trade? Or a trade for the matter??

    I’m not questioning the trade, I’m not one to judge the move even though it seems very very odd and strange to not at least get a draft choice in there too. Maybe there’s a bigger picture being painted? Besides, nearly everyone was bawling when we hired our core players last summer, and look where they’ve brought us today.

     

    Anyway, back to the trade, the fact that Halak wasn’t even approached beforehand is what’s pecking at me… Players, especially one that generated a bunch of sales and brought exceptional goaltending back to an organization, deserves much more respect than that.

  205. JIMVINNY says:

    He shut them out in game 7, and was unreal the following season up until the ankle injury he seemingly never recovered from.  I don’t think anyone thinks about that goal anymore.

  206. SLONCOLD says:

    and can price handle 65+ games? well he is 6’3” so he must be able too since he’s a bigger guy.

    Halak has showed forward progress since being drafted as a hab and played lights out this year. As for the 4m he will likely get well, they’re gonna give price 3.25m  year, just watch…. he’s not going to get 900k after making 2.1(with rookie incentives)

  207. Cam_1 says:

    Madmat411 knock some sense into these people’s heads would ya ? Before they run Price out of town like they did Saint Patrick !!!

  208. Don Carnage says:

    Yes bash a guy that was drafted 13th overall and has never played a game yet for us. Your a true team playa’   !!

  209. andrewberkshire says:

    Isn’t that the point? Halak can’t be blamed for the Flyers series.

  210. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Yeah, I meant that whatever happened to Price in the 07-08 playoffs (following his amazing season) wasn’t his fault. Should have clarified that, sorry.

  211. terrygain says:

    For sure. Unless he makes a mistake. If he does, then he will be handled by the brilliant coach just like Pouliot, that other other first rounder.

  212. megagoten says:

    price still has proven more than halak, that’s the bottom line

  213. SLONCOLD says:

    maybe… but remember KHL will be an option as well. i suspect nabokov to jet there if he doesn’t get his money here in the nhl

  214. Exit716 says:

    This is a pretty clear message to show-boating agents like Walsh that the Habs aren’t going to be bullied or strong-armed.

     

  215. samilg10 says:

    I admire what you have done here.

  216. JIMVINNY says:

    I don’t know if anyone has made any recommendations to you regarding that stock, but you might want to consider selling.

  217. K-hab25 says:

    Well they’re obviously not run by Habs fans, they actually wanted the guy with more talent, not the guy who was more likable. I was on philly site yesterday and everyone was saying how much they hate Carter and wanted him traded. It reminded me of this site, where the most hated player is a 22 year old former all-star with 60 career wins. We’re not the only ones that eat our young, they were describing Carter like people use to talk about Lats on this site. I was amazed.

  218. HabsfaninMA says:

    The GM is a genius — give all the leverage now to Price and his agent. With Halak gone, who now has the upper hand in contract negotiations? They will end up paying Price too much. Stupid.

  219. WindsorHab-10 says:

    No guts, no glory. Two thumbs up for Gauthier for pulling the trigger on this deal. Loved Halak especially in the 2 rounds against the Caps & Pens but there was no way we were keeping both goalies. I believe that 2 prospects was the best we could do & I’m willing to take this chance. We need a guy like Schultz.

  220. ed lopaz says:

    funny how blues fans get credit for knowing that Eller can flat out play, but Halak is not a proven commodity yet.

    what B.S.

    seriously.

    imagine if we would put together a highlite reel of Halak’s performance over the entire season.

    the 6 game winning streak near the end of the season. those huge wins in 5 stright elimination games and a .960 save during those games.

    imagine if we put all of that on YOU TUBE.

    and you guys had no idea who the goalie was in the video.

    all the saves, the 50+ game 6 vs Washington, everything done anonymously so no one knew it was actually halak.

    how many of you guys would be saying that it is good move for the franchise to get rid of him.

    you think its easy to make those saves.

    you think its easy to find someone to play and WIN under such pressure.

    I have been around for 11 of the 24 cups and in all those years, 40+ years, only 2 goalies have ever played

    like Jaro played – Dryden and Roy – that’s it.

    you think this is a good move because we “can’t afford to pay him 5 million”,

    well, I got news for you, there are 13 teams paying more than 5 million for their # 1 goalie; almost half the league

    and within 12 months Price will be demanding at least 5 million – because who else do we have – he holds all of the cards now.

    hey boone, you should have said, “carey, here’s the keys to the vault” instead of the car.

     

  221. The Big One says:

    I really like this, and I’ll tell you why.  We get two young prospects with a minimal cap hit.  That gives us much more free agent flexibility.  Not only do the young players have an upside, but they are cheap.  Also, both of these guys are pretty big, something that was definately lacking.  Also, with all of the free agents goalies this year, you have to wonder what a team would give up for a goalie.

  222. Don Carnage says:

    Not poor Carey I said no goalie in the world will win games when the team does not score so I defended Halak’s loss to the Flyers … but it was not his loss it was the team’s loss just like all the loss’s Carey was involved in in the end unless he was pulled they were TEAM loss’s not GOALIE loss’s as some would like to make believe.

  223. WindsorHab-10 says:

    With all due respect to Halak & his followers, he always reminded me of Steve Penney. No big loss IMO.

  224. smiler2729 says:

    That’s not why the trade was made, get your head outta yer ass and you might see the real world!

  225. terrygain says:

    Quoting what Scotty said in March is pretty lame after the way Jaro played in April and May. Scotty didn’t say Price is better than Jaro, as you imply.

  226. coachdoug says:

    1118 posts…not bad…better than the 20 posts HIO would have gotten from Boones soccer blog…

  227. JIMVINNY says:

    Turco’s too old to consider the KHL.  That’s fine for older Euros, it’s going home for them.  But Turco’s canadian.  He wouldn’t.

  228. terrygain says:

    What’s a Leaf fan doing here?

  229. bostonantifan says:

    The fact that the Habs traded Halak, in and of itself, does not bother me.

    What does bother me, however is:

    Who the hell are the two stiffs they got in return for a potential #1 goalie?

    Why the hell did they trade him so soon?

    Wouldn’t it have made more sense to shop him around to a few teams? (I’m assuming they didn’t do that, because I can’t believe that nobody would have offered more than 2 minor league non-prospects for a goalie of Halak’s calibre).

    The 2011 Canadiens now have a #1 goalie who hasn’t played like one for several seasons, and have not improved their most glaring weakness, scoring. It’s going to be a long, long season in 2011. No playoffs for this squad. (I know, Gauthier hasn’t made all his moves yet. Well, if he makes any more like this one, you can safely bet on a lottery draft pick next season).

  230. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yeah, sent him to a team where he can be established as #1 goaltender because the Habs didn’t feel like giving him more than 4 million per year…

    Halak victimization parade goes on.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  231. Big Ted says:

    Like in the playoffs, when he beat the #1 overall seed and the defending champs! You still gotta beat the easy teams, and that doesn’t always happen. Plus there’s a lot more parity in the league now, even the easy teams are not so far behind the middle-of-the-road teams.

  232. Chuck says:

    Rationality is quite often in short supply around here.

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  233. rogieshan says:

    Eller effectively replaces Maxwell as the team’s no. 1 centre prospect, follow by Leblanc. Schultz gives us the muscle Laraque didn’t want to supply. Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose…   

  234. sholi2000.com says:

    Same here, he reminded me of a little better version of Huet, and Theodore.

     

    They Call Me Shane

  235. moonkid says:

    That makes more sense.  I guess after how horribly they ended the year during the Centennial, I forgot what a great start they did have.

    But something happened to him to bring him off track.

  236. Trisdin says:

    If Eller is the next Sundin, than all is well. I want Price signed long term now!. we can’t afford to lose him to free agency which he would consider if he read some of the posts on this site.

  237. sholi2000.com says:

    lol, is that tourney still on?

    AWESOME MOVE MONTREAL!

    “Play me or trade me”

    Can you hear me now?

    They Call Me Shane

  238. JIMVINNY says:

    I don’t feel that all the players are getting love from all the fans.  It seems to me that some people are giving Halak a lot of props, and forgetting everyone else.  What about Markov, and coming back from injury to revive a miserable PP?  What about Cammaleri and Gionta and their 40 goal pace?  We backed into the playoffs, again, with no thanks to Halak in the last 3 games.  He was fantastic in the first wto rounds, no doubt, but so was the defence, the coaching, and the timely goal scoring. 

  239. SmartDog says:

    Okay, I’ve thought about it, listened, looked at these two guys (video, stats, reports), and as much as I would rather Halak had stayed, what’s done is done, and I think what we got back may be good value.

    This Eller kid seems to play the kind of game we need more of. He sounds like a leader, and a tough, character guy with good hands and a strong 2-way player.  And Shultz’s numbers are VERY decent for a guy known more for his ability to beat the crap out of people (and he looks like he can do that well).  He could be a poor man’s Lucic.   May be a really good thing on our 3rd line. 

    I’m unclear on how tall these guys are.  Maybe “hockey’s future” doesn’t update often enough, it reports them at 6’0″ and 6’1″.  Shultz clearly looks bigger.  I’m guessing that 6’3″ is closer, hell, 6’2″ will suit just fine I think and as long as Eller is over 6’0″ it’s all good.

    So going against what a lot of people are saying, as much as I’m against trading Halak, having done it, PG seems to have picked a pretty good dance partner.

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  240. Mr. Biter says:

    His rights were traded to the blues. He’s still a RFA and has not signed with the blues. lets see what he wants or if he’s still a RFA come July 1.

  241. K-hab25 says:

    Actually they both were traded for wanting more money than there worth. Good try though hater!!

  242. EricInStL says:

    You don’t look happy….

  243. terrygain says:

    Didn’t take long to prove you wrong.

  244. C3P1 says:

    Unbelievable.  I love price as much as the next guy, but even I think that carey has got to go.  he has been ruined and I dont think he can ever succeed here.  Let him be great somewhere else.  Total wrong move.  Thanks for the memories Jaro, I’m sure the bell centre will roar when you are announced in the future, not carey.

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    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  245. gK_HabsFan says:

    Schultz fighting Cepek, a habs bust prospect

    -GK-

  246. Anonymous says:

    I doubt there would have been any talks of that nature unless both teams were on the same page, Walsh would not have gotten him signed for cheap at that point, he knew how good of a goalie he had.That being said there would have been zero chance to sign him for a large sum of money, and now they knew he was going to get even larger money, guaranteed. If st louis and halak goes to arbitration they will be making a huge mistake in doing so.

  247. HNS says:

    Me thinks we got scewed. PG put the eggs in the wrong basket.

  248. Chuck says:

    Look… it’s mister “can’t see the forest for the trees”.

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  249. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Haha, if players indeed read these blogs then Gomez and MAB would have killed each other by now.

  250. SeriousFan09 says:

    HF and IHDB sometimes don’t update until players make the NHL.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  251. bostonantifan says:

    ari, I agree.  You might want to add the Rod Langway trade as well, and drafting Wickenheiser over Savard…

  252. ed lopaz says:

    honestly – if that’s truly the case, gauthier should not be allowed to continue.

     

     

  253. joeybarrie says:

    Make sure you mention that comment to him, when your in line to get your Eller rookie card signed…

    Way to support the team. Do you also HATE Josh Gorges for being the player we got for Rivet??? Didnt Gorges go undrafted? I guess San Jose really screwed us in that trade too…

    MAYBE, we should wait and see how he plays before we write him off only because we wanted him…

    Did you really think we were going to keep Halak? He was too expensive based on only 1 season.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  254. JIMVINNY says:

    Actually, that’s not the case.  He’s not eligible for arbitration, and I don’t think that Price is looking at it as a payday.  He’ll settle for a shorter, low-paying contract, with the understanding that he is the team’s future, and can cash in with his next contract.

  255. johnnymolson says:

    So let me get this right…we’re betting the farm on a whiny headcase with poor work ethic and an attitude problem?!?!  This move has my mind made up to order NHL Center Ice for next season, so I have the option to watch Caps and Hawks games, becaues I think the Habs will be hard to watch on many nights when Carey poops the bed.  And we all know he does…often.

  256. andrewberkshire says:

    Agreed.

  257. megagoten says:

    what’s price gonna do? go to arbitration? knock on teams to send offer sheets?

  258. Omit says:

    Please tell us how that worked out for Halak.

  259. joeybarrie says:

    OR HALAK???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  260. mbplekfan says:

    If Halak had gone to arbitration he would have been given something over 3 mill per season with a one year deal and UFA status at years end. Cap hit would be severe and no guarantee of any sort of return later.

    We got something in return. Eller looks to be a decent NHL prospect. All-Rookie AHL allstar is pretty decent for his first year of North American Pro hockey. Good third line replacement material for Moore if Endqvist doesnt work out.

    The Schultz kid puts a bruiser into a system that has very few. His stats show that he can score as well as fight. Obviously slated for Hamilton (hopefully not the ECHL) he will add a big winger to a small team.

    I felt we could have done better when I initially saw this but really when you look at it, there wasnt much on offer if this was the best deal.

    If Eller makes the team and Schultz makes the Bulldogs it will have to be considered a decent trade. Especially if Halak goes to arbitration and soaks the blues with a costly one year contract.

  261. alestar says:

    failed?

    Jeez man, he’s only 22 years old…give him a chance to gain some NHL experience…goaltending is the toughest position in hockey, there is nowhere to hide! 

    His attitude and hard work during the play-offs sold me on his maturity as an NHLer. This team will now play for Price the same way they did for Halak down the stretch…this was the right move by Gauthier. 

     

    XXIV…and counting

  262. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    What’s up with peeps here thinking that if a 22 year old goalie has a save percentage of 91.2 – it means he’s pooping the bed. Yes, Halak is clearly better and yes, Price is struggling.

    But he is doing anything but pooping the bed. What…watch Caps-Hawks? You think you’ll find a goaltending duet in that match-up? Habs’ priority right now should be improving the depth of the team.

    That wins Stanley Cups and playoff success.

    Chicago and Philadelphia proved it.

    And I think we all know that Price is a lot better than Niemi and Leighton. I understand why you’re frustrated. Losing Halak is a big blow. But if it helps us get cap space to re-sign Pleks and get depth. Then maybe it’s for the best.

  263. HabsfaninMA says:

    According to some posters on this site, Halak only played against the easy teams.

  264. novahab says:

    Well I am saying its a good trade, now time will tell. I give Halak all the credit in the world and wish him well but I can’t help feeling he was like Huet. We now have some toughness if Schultz can make the team. As for Eller he was a first rounder and putting him in Montreal may bring the best out of him.  Bottom line it sink or swim for Price now it time to step up because he now has the most pressure on him than any player in the league hands down. Now who do we get to replace Pleks.

  265. coachdoug says:

    Funny how the site was almost dormant then started to crash…get a real server guys!

    As I have stated before this is a pretty logical move…panties are all in a wad for everyone…

     

     

  266. JIMVINNY says:

    Schultz is listed at 6’3″ on the WHL site, and Eller is listed at 6’1″ on TSN.

  267. BeachHabFan says:

    by trading for prospects gauthier frees up cash to sign a veteran G who is willing to play 2nd fiddle and add some depth up front. i don’t think this is as much price getting the green light as the organization getting out of signing halak to lots of cash. who knows, maybe they trade price as well, bring up desjardins, sign biron, and awayyyyyy we go…

  268. pointu says:

    Does this mean Desjardins is our starter?

  269. SmartDog says:

    I wanted Halak to stay too, but c’mon.  Price is not ‘ruined’.  He’s had ups as well as downs.  He needs more help than he’s gotten, or different help, but the raw talent is there, he’s had a history of winning, he could well rise up this year.  I’d like to see him as back-up or in a tandem, but there’s no way you can write him off. That’s ridiculous. 

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  270. adam76 says:

    by December anyway.

  271. andrewberkshire says:

    Not diminishing at all. He was fantastic in two rounds for Montreal, put on one of the best goaltending performances I’ve ever seen against Washington, and was pedestrian with the rest of the team against the Flyers. What should I have said? That he was great all playoffs? That would be a lie. He was as bad against the Flyers as anyone else was.

  272. Don Carnage says:

    Kevin Lowe has no more money. He is the only GM to have ever pulled off that crap and was shunned for it from the others.

  273. HabsfaninMA says:

    Well, now that he is the only game in town and the team has given him the #1 job, who is in the better negotiating position?

  274. SmartDog says:

    Hear! Hear!

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  275. megagoten says:

    he got most of a year to get his head back on straight.

    he probably suceeded. all reports points to it.

  276. joeybarrie says:

    Who was the other goalie???  How much is he making right now??? How many playoff games did he play in this season???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  277. Just A Guy says:

    I would only refer you to Gauthier’s comment that in a salary cap world, you have to balance your team with young, inexpensive talent. I was of the opinion that Halak should have been given an extra year to prove that he could handle the workload of a true #1. Alas, we will get the answer to that question without him in the ranks.

    This might be a little too soon for Price who could use another year in obscurity before he is unleashed to the rabid habs fans. I remember someone throwing Dan Ellis’ name out there for a potential mentor, I could also see Martin Biron doing well enough in the pressure cooker that is the Bell Center. Arange the workload so that once either of the journeymen have a bit of a slide at home, you bring in Price and all of a sudden the myopians that can afford tickets are acutally celebrating him.

    And Pleks is JM’s archetypal hockey player. I bet he’s tugging at Gauthiers sleev right now askign how the talks are going… of course in his comatose calm demeanor

  278. SeriousFan09 says:

    Number of teams paying 5 million + for a goalie and got beyond Round 2 of the playoffs: 2, Nabokov who was swept with the Sharks and that was the Hawk’s bench-warmer Huet.

    Big money goaltending is not a popular concept around the NHL right now and it’s easy to see why, 5 million or more on a starter means the starter plays 70 games and is toasted for the playoffs and falls down quickly. Vezina winners often hit the golf course early.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  279. RH says:

    Ooooh. Now that’s funny!

  280. Don Carnage says:

    He has a year on his contract but is allowed a pay raise.

  281. adam76 says:

    by December anyway.

  282. adam76 says:

    I hate this deal – UNREAL.  I keep thinking this is some late aprils fools deal.  Our formally proud franchise is the joke of the league.  

  283. sholi2000.com says:

    Stop making sense some may catch on! LOL

    They Call Me Shane

  284. makka83 says:

    I hope Gainey pulls a Maradona on some of you guys.. seriously… you suck!

  285. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Wow. Well that’s your opinion.

    I am just sticking with the statistics.

    Niemi and Leighton are both 26+ year old and don’t have better stats than Price. Niemi played behind a team like Chicago and his save percentage was 91.2. Price had the same save % behind a team that struggled the entire year.

    He is clearly better than both. Just giving my opinion.

  286. PeterStone says:

    Hats off to Jaro for really maximizing his potential.  We’ll see if this was the start of something .. or, if this was as good as its going to get.  Clearly, he had much more fight in him than I ever expected, so, its premature to think he’s reached the top.  Either way, I think we made the right decision.

    As for the trade, maybe negotiations arent going as well as expected with Pleks … if thats the case, or, if a decision is made to go bigger and not re-sign Pleks, that free’s up cash to try to trade for a bigger C … and, opens up room to have Eller as your # 3 C … growing into a Top 2 C over time. 

    This pretty well signifies the end of Metro … and we’ll see if they choose to get Moore under contract as our # 4.

  287. Don Carnage says:

    Good one

  288. C3P1 says:

    Raw talent, yes.  As much as anyone in the league.  Size, yes.  Positioning, yes.  A great coaching staff, who is capable of helping him, of course.  Drive to succeed, yes.  Supported by Montreal fans and media, no.  Confidence, no.

    I love the guy, I really do.  He has won at every level except this one.  But he was thrown into the fire way to early and yes, I think he has been ruined.  I sure as hell hope I’m wrong, believe me, but everyone will always compare him to jaro and no one will ever stop talking about this trade.  I want him to be the guy, I just dont see it.  Yet.

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    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  289. Caballero says:

    wow this is really bringing the ugly out isn’t it. This is a wait and see guys.

  290. Les Habitants says:

    look who’s back!!!!!!!

    This is the same guy that posted pic’s of a DEAD CHILD for his avatar!!!

    go crawl back into your hole

     

     

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  291. Nahlsy says:

    Shouldn’t you be looking for a Blues fan site so you can bury your head in Halak’s crotch there instead now?

     

  292. coachdoug says:

    PG may not be done with all the moves yet…just saying…

    Off Topic: How was North Yarmouth Academy when you were playing?  I was a Lewiston Blue Devil back in the day from Maine and NYA was king in the state…I have heard Hebron and Kents Hill have surpassed their programs…NYA actualy played in “Cooperalls” for a time…we used to make fun of them if you know what they were…

  293. vic says:

    I watched Halak  and Price .Halak moved with the puck Price was down early and had stretch for the stop and was out of position on many shots. I hope he has worked on that .

    The k bros have not been coached well and would be better off with another club.

    Whats the next move Camerlarie for a fouth round pick.

    Wonder why this group never won anything.

     

  294. madmat411 says:

    Gladly Cam_1, but I could use your help! :P

  295. sholi2000.com says:

    Don’t you have crops that need dredging?

    They Call Me Shane

  296. adam76 says:

    baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  297. Mill4ever says:

    wow this sucks. 2 guys that probably will have zero impact. Eller may be good someday but not every center from a lesser european hockey country turns into a Anze Kopitar. And that Schultz guy may never even see the NHL. If Carey fails.. we had 2 great goalies and end up with virtually nothing. sorry to be so pessimistic but this poor return for Halak **** me off

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  298. Cam_1 says:

    Very well put my fellow Nova Scotianer !!!!

  299. Cam_1 says:

    Very well put my fellow Nova Scotianer !!!!

  300. Caper says:

    LOL-Bang on.

  301. Les Habitants says:

    Hard to forget that huh?

    what a @$$!!

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  302. The Cat says:

    When you look at Halak throughout his career, minor leagues and all, it aint fair to call him a flash in the pan. It seems to me that when you have a good run, you try to keep all those that had a vital role in it. I can see the habs being hellbent on keeping Price, Markov and Plekanec, 3 guys who next to nothing to do with the run. This is a mistake IMO.

  303. HabsfaninMA says:

    I guess the team wanted to pull off a deal early before the draft so “mentally tough” Carey would have plenty of time to focus himself. God knows he needs the extra time.

    This team is so damn stubborn when it comes to Price. Sadly, this stubbornness will most likely be to the detriment of the team.

  304. Omit says:

    You’re sadly mistaken if you think that reply proves me wrong.  That was so weak on your part.

  305. C3P1 says:

    carey isnt going anywhere….

    in a response to your question, they were ok.  We only played them twice in my 4 years at avon, we beat them both times, I think 4-0 and 5-0.  But they had good if unspectacular seasons.  hebron and kh both got better but we beat them too, we didnt really lose to anyone haha

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  306. ooder says:

    man fans freaking about this trade is getting really old.

    we are such unhappy people.

    clearly jaro got to expensive for the habs, it happens in sports all the time.

    maybe these 2 propsects will be great.

    all i know is i wish Halak the very best in St. Louis

    and I hope the kids who came here can impress the fans as much as Halak did in game 5 agasint the Caps

    ——————

    “I like what I’m seeing right now,” assessed Markov. “We’re not perfect, but we’re trying to be.”

  307. alestar says:

    ed….Halak had himself a career play-offs, he was awesome am=nd I’d have loved to keep him, but Price is the logical choice to keep if you have to move  agoalie. Remember, Halak asked to be traded half-way throught the season and when his A-hole agent made disparaging remarks about Price’s play, Halak NEVER defended his team mate.

    Its a TEAM sport, and the Habs have some great chemistry going on now…Price did the right thing by not bitching about riding the bench in the play-offs and working extra hard in practice, it will go a long way as to how the team plays in from of him. (I LOVED reading about him calling out Sergei…I bought a Price shirt the next day!)

    Remember too the we have Desjardins coming up, so the cupboard is far from bare…

     

     

    XXIV…and counting

  308. G-Man says:

    “And I think we all know that Price is a lot better than Niemi and
    Leighton.”

    No, he isn’t.

  309. G-Man says:

    Now that’s funny! :)

  310. G-Man says:

    Price has proved over and over that he sucks. This team’s management is beyond mentally challenged. My question is: did Goatier trade Halak because some1 hit him with a sledgehammer on the and then say, “Ok. YOu’re prepared. Make a trade.” Because the net results are the same. Worst trade since Roy was moved.

  311. Favorite Son says:

    How could they not even talk to him and at least feel him out after the end of the season?! There were no discussions at all?? WTF.

    And I seriously don’t understand how those 2 prospects are the best return we could get if Philly, SJ and Tampa were all in the mix? That doesn’t make any sense…Gauthier has no negotiating skills whatsoever. If that many teams were involved, you play one against the other.

    A starting goaltender with a promising future for 1. a 3rd or 4th liner pegged as an enforcer (who might score what, 10 goals a season maybe?) and 2. a question mark of a forward a la Pouliot.

    I understand that they had to choose between Halak and Price, that’s fine, I have no problem with that. It’s the way they go about it that sucks and they showed a lack of respect to Halak during his entire stay here. On top of that they get shit in return.

    I feel so bad also for Price because now the pressure is really on like crazy. And you know the second he starts being less than stellar, the fans will start turning on him quick.

    Very disappointing.

  312. novahab says:

    Hey we get a 6’1 centre who has skill and a 6’3 power forward who can punch someone in the mouth I love it and I am predicting Schultz makes the team . Unless Nelison has improved enough who else do we have that can play tough up front.

  313. joeybarrie says:

    Against the Cap, what could we have possibly aquired for Halak that wouldnt have made it impossible to re-sign Pleks?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  314. The Big One says:

    It might be a little early for stupid trade speculation – but how about this.  Let Pleks walk, and sign Saku back for the second line, and add Frolov.  That reunites Cammy with Frolov, and gives us a 2nd line centre and a captain.  As for the Kostitsyn’s – get ride of them for a prospect or draft picks.

    Far fetched, and absolutely no basis for this, but it would be neat.

  315. Caper says:

    Oh geezus please. F-ing Halak is gone not The Rocket.

  316. joeybarrie says:

    Are you laughing at my post???? 

    It looks as though your whole account here is aimed at bashing Price… Some of us guys in here like the Montreal Canadiens… We don’t pick or choose a single player and live or die with him… So I guess your a Blues fan now huh. Shouldnt you be over there in that chat room bashing the players we got and playing up Halak to your new fan buddies. Telling them, dont worry…Halak will single handedly win them the Cup next year…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  317. mrhabby says:

    is ian schultz related to dave the hammer schultz.??

    ps..biron backs up price.

  318. Fabio D says:

    The comment was geared toward Price’s reaction to being shelled and the apparent impact it had on him emotionally and his ability to rebound and have a solid follow up game. Saw a lot of the somberness and immaturity this year- horrible play of the team in front of him this year aside. The “potential” didn;t show itslef oftne enough this year to keep the starting job.

    No Halak or anyone else to pick up the slack or hide behind will not do any favours to Price’s “potential” as a wining goalie at the NHL level.

    He may be a fierce competitor, but recent history has shown he is not ready to be “the man” in nets for the Habs. Another year or two with Halak or any other decent veteran (and for God’s sake, no one say Martin Biron) and Price may develop into the star most Habs fans hope he will be.

    Worked for Marc Andre Fleury.

    I’d hate to see Price be a Jim Carey (The Net Detective in his Washington years).

  319. joeybarrie says:

    And if an offer sheet was given, we would have gotten exactly what we acquired… 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder… At least we SEEM to know these 2 players and maybe Gauthier knows what he is doing. If there was 3 other teams in the mix, there wasnt alot out there that was offered.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  320. TripleX says:

    Can you say stubborn and arrogant?  The Hallmarks of the Gainey regime and he has trained his student well.

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  321. EricInStL says:

    Does anyone think Gauthier is finished with the trades ?

    I also
    think that Gauthier got word that most teams with goalie issues were
    going to take care of them with the free agents available. So before the
    market was going to dry out he figured he had to move. Only time will
    tell if he was right. But our future centermen might look like this:

    Gomez,
    Eller, Leblanc and Metropolit (kidding…)

    And I like the promise of Schultz.

     

  322. JIMVINNY says:

    I watched about 15 of his fights, he doesn’t lose too often.

  323. SeriousFan09 says:

    Family relation is Jeff Schultz in WSH, his brother.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  324. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I’m looking forward to getting to the office tomorrow so I can get away from all the stress of being a Habs fan…

    nearly a 1,000 comments already!

  325. alestar says:

    You gotta be happy for Jaro, he’ll be the #1 in St-Louis…he has deserved this opportunity.

    My gut feeling on Halak has always been that he is going to follow a similar path as Vokoun: a good to sometimes great goalie on a mediocre team.

     

    XXIV…and counting

  326. coachdoug says:

    Price may not be going anywhere this summer but I think he will be on a trial basis…there is a glut of NHL goalies out there and this last Cup run showed that a Zamboni driver can handle it between the pipes…

    Vancouver got drunk and stupid with Luongo and they are the model of putting all your money and leadership in a goalie is not the way to go…Niemei and Leighton were average during the finals…

    Habs need some blueliners…Subban will be a big upgrade

  327. terrygain says:

    Yeah Carey was great when he didn’t have the pressure of playing. Probably played end of the bench better than anyone in recent memory. Oh, and he was just fabulous at calling out other players. Jacques Martin was most appreciative.

  328. Cam_1 says:

    Oh and Halak never let in softies in or screwed up. I seem to remember him playing the puck twice in play offs directly resulting in a goal…most recently game 5 against flyers when Habs were up 1 – 0 and he has gotten chased out of the net like any other goalie. I hate to talk about negatives but I see that is what you are sold on. I love what Halak did for us … I have no problem with the Halak supporters..I am one of them…at the same time no one can realisticly justify bashing Price. Like someone cleverly already said ..Price had ups as well as downs…Just like any PLAYER….just like any GOALIE !!! But like most you choose to put Price under the microscope and magnify his mistakes overlooking all the good he did.

  329. adam76 says:

    no – I am calling you a sheep,

  330. JIMVINNY says:

    These calls are unreal.  But since the NBA thinks Kobe is god, there’s no way they’re making a call against him.

  331. Y says:

    All the result of cap mismanagement by the bumbling baker.

     

    Last time around they got a dud named Thibault, this time around that dud and his rotten attitude have been around for the past 3 seasons.

     

    What will they do when their annointed one fails?

     

    I’ve finally come to learn that it’s futile to invest any emotional attachment to this team because the bungling owners. coaches, and management always seem to screw the pooch at any opportunity.

     

    Time to let a little part of us die

  332. nfldanchor says:

    I was shocked to hear that Halak was traded. He was a fan favorite and brought us deep into the playoffs. I suspect the Kostitsyns will go as well before the season starts. We need to get Frolov to play on Cammalerri’s line ! Maybe one of these prospects may become a great player and it is luck when dealing with prospects. Halak and Ryder were high picks for the Habs in the past and turned out to be good for the team. Look at Tim Thomas with the Bruins , he came up through the ECHL and the AHl and ths year a rookie took his place. Even Theodore came back with a decent year for the Caps. Its a gamble but I still think Price can be one of the best goalies in the Nhl . Hes young and learning , but has great potential .If we traed him away to another team and he finally reached his potential then you would all complain. Fleury on the Penguins took several years before he became a bonafied Nhl goalie . Price may be the same way and we will be glad we kept him on our team.

  333. ed lopaz says:

    Gauthier better have a lot more coming.

    If this was all just to sign Plekanec, I will be very upset indeed.

     

  334. joeybarrie says:

    Patrick Roy           -           Jaroslav Halak          -       Jose Theodore

    I wonder where Jaro will end up between the two. All I know is I am glad we never gave Theo the 4.5 million. Look at how well that worked out for the Caps…

     

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  335. adam76 says:

    I am looking forward to my third rye to kick in, so that the tears will taste less bitter.

  336. adam76 says:

    for worse – mos def

  337. Cam_1 says:

    I am trying my friend. I am trying !

  338. ed lopaz says:

    it might not be “popular” but 1/2 the league is already caught up in it.

    and, buddy, as sure as I’m writing this right now, Price will be making 5 million or more within short order.

    there’s no way around it.

    there is no position in sports, not even pitching in baseball, which is more important to a teams performance than the goalie is in hockey.

    I know your theory about expensive goalies being over played.

    For years and years Brodeur played almost every game. Sure, now he is older and the Devils are stupid about it.

    I agree with you 100 per cent that Brodeur is no longer playing well and he’s playing too much.

    But a young goalie, one who is in TOP SHAPE and still in his mid 20′s, should be able to play 60 games and,

    if he’s an excellent goalie, there’s no reason why he shouldn’t make top dollar – which in today’s NHL is 5,6, 7 million.

    Price will get his 5 million very shortly.

  339. Omit says:

    This coming from a person who thinks Ken Dryden was an average goalie.  LMAO!

  340. Ian Cobb says:

    Our HIO numbers are up now big time, with only a minor but great trade.  All the team moves have yet to occur. Lots more going on that no one has a clue about. So hang on to your hat, we are just getting started.

    There are others leaving town that are going to raise eyebrows. We will be a much better team come the start of the year. This I am sure. We have over 100 years of experience building winners. This is a new world under the new cap rules.

  341. C3P1 says:

    bobby lou is one of the best.  I acknowledge that he has had some bad moments in the playoffs but he won the gold medal and had great seasons for the nucks.  his time is coming.

    do you coach team carolina?  one of my best friends played on that team before he came up here

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  342. camel_larry says:

    I’m depressed. :(

     

    Habs Go!

  343. mrhabby says:

    by moving halak it gives PG some flexibility with Pleks. If pleks balks at the money then PG can throw some coin at a free agent. I personally would like to see Pleks walk (go ahead and jump over me) and find another big forward..who that is i have no idea. To me Pleks and Gomez are kind of the same.

    ps..btw. something has to be done about the brothers. surely they cannot go through another year with SK and Martin always feuding. this does not make sense to me.

  344. Max_a_million says:

    boone has a soccer blog?!?

  345. JIMVINNY says:

    Nope, we gave him 5.5.

  346. Anonymous says:

    Everbody just STFU and relax for a little bit, we will be fine without Halak. Price is not a bad goalie and he wasn’t bad last year, if he were playing somewhere where the fans were levelheaded they would have no problem with him. It is not the end of the world, those of you that think so need to get your head checked. We are getting two cheap prospects, cheap being the key word, we all know getting a proven nhl player would have cost money we don’t have. Certainly not the best trade but an astute move none the less considering the circumstances as they are. As far as Halak goes in St. Louis that isn’t even a sure thing. If someone throws in an offer sheet for him this will be an excellent trade, so wait, and calm the fuck down, please.

  347. ed lopaz says:

    we did give theo a huge contract and then he was moved to colorado

  348. TomNickle says:

    I’m sorry for being late to the party everyone. I’m curious why people are claiming foul on Gauthier here. Did he not just get perhaps one of the most NHL ready prospects with high end skill in this trade?

    I believe that Lars Eller has been considered to be one of the best up and coming talents in hockey for a couple of years now.

    Time will tell but at least Gauthier won’t be allowing an arbitrator to tell him what we can have Halak for. And just for one more season I might add.

  349. andrewberkshire says:

    Oh, I didn’t realize that when talking about a player I had to list his entire career accomplishments. Stop being so sensitive. Halak was great this year, very good for the second half of last year, and average the rest of the time. That a good sum up? It’s humorous how a 9/11 conspiracy theorist is talking about disregarding facts.

  350. SeriousFan09 says:

    They probably talked during the season, had the idea of what Halak was interested in, calculated his demands against what he’d recieve in arbitration (4 million plus) and decided it wasn’t worth spending that much. It was a business decision, whether it’s the right one, we’ll find out in years to come.

    Since we don’t know what the other teams were offering, perhaps it was only slightly better than what St. Louis offered up and the prospect of Hlaak playing in vengeance mode in Tampa or PHI wasn’t considered worth trading him in the East.

    Tough situation for the team, but the cap era forced bad decisions, couled with DAL and NSH overpaying their goalies with fat contracts, gave Halak way too much bargaining power that he hadn’t earned based off of one season. Cam Ward was only earning 2.5 million after his Conn Smythe win and his big-money deal only kicked in this year, after pushing his team to a Conference Final in 2009.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  351. Cam_1 says:

    Lol..beautiful bro…that says it all. Finally someone who sees cleary !

  352. Ian Cobb says:

    Come on Adam! be a man!  You sound like frutti tutti!

  353. Max_a_million says:

    He is not eligible for arbitration, the Canadiens can pay him pretty much whatever they want to.

  354. RJ says:

    Did you listen to the figurehead GM’s press conference? The decision to go with Price was made a long time ago based on his tremendous upside. When has Price been stellar? Must have missed that period.

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  355. Omit says:

    I thought you knew nothing about hockey, but now I’m sure of it.  Look up the year that Pollock played hardball with Dryden and Ken decided to sit out the year.  Now look up what happened the years after.

    You are ignorant as hell about the Habs.

  356. Caper says:

    I’ve been checking him out. Not afraid to get dirty with good hands. Loks like a good one.

  357. HabsfaninMA says:

    I’m tired of hearing about Price’s “potential” and “upside.” LOTS of players have potential that is never realized, and this organization has had plenty of those guys lately. Until Price proves something, this deal is terrible.

  358. terrygain says:

    We sure showed Walsh. Well, I feel better already. How may points is that worth, buddy?

  359. Caper says:

    I’ve been checking him out. Not afraid to get dirty with good hands. Looks like a good one.

  360. joeybarrie says:

    27 UFA goalies this season

    17 RFA goalies this season

    Yeah we really should have gotten more for Halak. I mean we couldn’t have gotten Steven Stamkos or Ovechkin and convinced him to reneg his contract and accept 2 million a year???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  361. coachdoug says:

    With the East Coast Eagles…Junior Canes AAA are the team down here now…My son is an Squirt playing on our AA…thats him to the left of Torts in my avatar…

    Not a lot of guys make the cut from here but we have Daniel Broussard playing for Sarnia Sting…Myself and another coach do some off season work with him while he is home…

    More kids and ice in New England…my old man always had a rink on our front yard…my son doesn’t get that luxury…I think southern markets will churn out more players as time goes by…

  362. Caper says:

    I’ve been checking him out. Not afraid to get dirty and has good hands. Looks like a good one.

  363. adam76 says:


    Annakin Slayd is busy recording his new hit, feels like 96.

  364. terrygain says:

    I’m buying if they have a diagonal line.

  365. Anonymous says:

    We make this site what it is, HIO should set up some form of revenue sharing for those that make the site “happen” instead of filling up the gazettes coffers. ;)

  366. Don Carnage says:

    It was clear that Lou did not do that much to win the gold medal , he was ok just ok.

  367. kempie says:

    Quit reading my mind.

  368. Max_a_million says:

    Gainey had to Harry Houdini that terrible contract that Savard had given Theodore onto the poor Avalanche.  It was a 5.5 million albatross.

  369. Spoons91 says:

    check this out (this year’s IIHF hockey championships vs. USA) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_ujJGvvC_c

     –> Halak you will be missed buddy!

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  370. joeybarrie says:

    RIGHT… in that snese we really should have signed Halak for 6 million…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  371. habsgod says:

    gauthier you got robbed, and now you should be fired! this is a horrible deal how drunk did the blues get you?

     please,please geoffery molson do us a favor and fire guathier tommorrow,hire us a gm that can actually make trades to better  us asa team not a gm that gets raped and be the laughing stocks of the league .
     gauthier where is david perron,david backes ,patrick berglund ,or defencman erik johnson? why aren’t these guys in the deal?hire pierre macguire now

  372. EricInStL says:

    I think the K brothers will be shipped at the draft. PG is NOT finished…

  373. Caper says:
    • OOOOOOOPs! Triple post
  374. ed lopaz says:

    I would like to see an offer sheet for Price for 4.5 million.

    If I’m Philly, I go right after price NOW!!

    We are completely exposed to an offer sheet on Price, aren’t we?

  375. Anonymous says:

    He is drinking rye, that has to be some measure of manhood.

  376. SeriousFan09 says:

    Price can barely argue for 2 million this year, let alone 5, he’ll have to come out and play as well as Jaro did last season or better to make sure his next contract earns him a fair bit of money. Halak was sent off because he was going to get the 4-5 million range, Price can’t command that right now. At the end of his next contract, it will depend on what he has achieved.

    Brodeur’s overplaying also happened in the Trap/Dead Puck era, which was less work on a goalie and he had a fantastic group of defencemen in front of him as well, Brodeur was a workhorse but in the new NHL with the speed and strain on goaltenders, physical and mental strain have to be taken into account. The magnificent Patrick Roy kept his career starts in low 60s, which is a good number but 70 is unworkable nowdays. Ten games off means 600 or more minutes of game time off your back and more time to prepare for each game.

    See what happens I guess, but Price won’t be up for big cash for at least two more years.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  377. Spoons91 says:

    Is your pic of Price smoking?

    follow me on twitter — http://twitter.com/spoons91

  378. Storm Man says:

    He is just mad, when he tried to join the Blues fan club they all said no.

  379. SeriousFan09 says:

    Name the last time a star player was exchanged for a goalie, face-up value.

    Right, it doesn’t happen, goalies don’t get exchanged for fair value.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  380. mike g says:

    Alright people, relax….

    When you consider Ilya Bryzgalov was picked up off waivers, and is now a top goalie in the NHL, you know there really isn’t a market for goaltenders. Especially those who’ve only had one good year. I’m not saying Jaro will never play well again, it’s just that it”s not like his value is as high as a Lundqvist or a Miller…

    Add the fact that he’s an RFA and won’t have a friendly cap hit next year, and the value goes so south it makes Cuba look like the North Pole….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  381. ed lopaz says:

    hard to say if it was a “career playoffs”, because it was his “only” playoffs.

    it is hard to believe he is gone.

    I was just cheering my head off in the Bell Center during game 3 vs Philly.

    I went with my 3 teenagers and we were so excited and literally jumping up and down.

    it’s horrible news today. IMHO.

     

  382. Omit says:

    Another eternal optimist.  I’ve never seen you post anything but doom and gloom. 

    Y?  Because you are a Debbie Downer.

  383. habsgod says:

    also gauthier did you hire rejean houle to do this trade?

  384. yathehabsrule says:

    Listening to the Halak conference call.

    Stubbs to Halak: “Congratulations on finding a new place to play goal.” I think Dave was the only one to congratulate him in the group.

    Anyone ever notice Halak sounds the same if he’s happy or upset?

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  385. RJ says:

    My Bob Gainey jersey retirement picture is no longer hanging on the wall. It has been replaced with a photo of Carey Price on his knees and the puck flying over his glove into the top corner.

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  386. puck face says:

    one of my fears:

    eller: why am i being benched coach?

    martin: you’ve played three straight games without a hat trick , hope you like hemoroids.

  387. kempie says:

    Dude, you are barely coherent.

     

  388. sisu says:

    This is the right move.

    Sell high.

  389. terrygain says:

    We all love the Habs, Joey. I grew up just north of Toronto and I have loved the Habs since before you were born.  It’s precisely why I am pissed. Loving the Habs doesn’t mean we have to behave like stupid Leafs fans and embrace idiotic decisions.

  390. JIMVINNY says:

    I’m ecstatic that a video scout of your calibre makes time to post here.  Which team do you work for again?

  391. ed lopaz says:

    dude what happens if theres an offer sheet on Price for 4.5 million from Philly?

  392. HardHabits says:

    All joking aside, on my part that is, you make excellent points. Price showed extraordinary class and also displayed an admirable esprit des corps during Halak’s run.

    I am sad to see Halak go and I am concerned that Price is not ready to shoulder the load of being a number 1 if only because the Halak worshippers are going to be out for blood at his first mistake.

    Like I said earlier, I am tired of the Habs depending on great goaltending. Price wont be a Hab for eternity either.

    This is a difficult page to turn for Habs fans.

  393. puck face says:

    maybe he’s a serial killer.

  394. Exit716 says:

    Mr. Boone.

    How is Abe Hefter’s wife taking the news of the trade?

    Just curious.

     

  395. Just A Guy says:

    I like Ellis or Biron, though Ellis might be looking for a starting role. Maybe Turco if he would take a pay decrease and a one year contract I think he knows what role he needs to play to stay in the NHL, but theres one thing to know the path, neo, its another thing to walk it. Also, the habs need Desjardins up in the big league to re-kindle the goalie controversy a.s.a.p.

  396. TomNickle says:

    HE WASN’T EVEN THE BIGGEST PIECE ON THIS TEAM.

    This is outstanding.

  397. FSUPhi1584 says:

    On the bright side, we traded a ninth round pick for a 1st and a 3rd

  398. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    lol not trying to get anyone’s hope up high, but several sources are suggesting that Habs might not re-sign Plekanec and will try to get their hands on Marleau.

  399. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hey, take your rationality and get out of here! He should’ve been moved for EDM’s 1st overall.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  400. Caper says:

    Does anyone have info on what the other teams were offering?

  401. ed lopaz says:

    I would have taken David Backes for Price.

    that deal would have been awesome.

  402. saskhabfan says:

    Yeah, but he stole it from his dad’s liquor cabinet and he probably has a tiny umbrella in it or something.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  403. JIMVINNY says:

    I can’t imagine that we’ll ever know.  It would be GM suicide to release info like that.

  404. Anonymous says:

    Prices’ smoking has nothing on Lafleurs

  405. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Cmon Gauthier, trade Hamrlik. We need the cap space.

  406. Omit says:

    The way people talk on this site, you’d think we just traded Dryden.  Get a grip, folks.  He can be easily replaced by Price.

  407. HardHabits says:

    After mulling it over I am living with this. I am not cheerleading, I am neither optimistic nor pessimistic. PG was opportunistic when you think about it given the circumstances. He also made a bold FU fans move that shows he at the very least has a set of balls.

  408. SLONCOLD says:

    they lack draft picks to offer for compensation

  409. alestar says:

    I hear ya, but it is a business…and this would be the logical move if you have to deal with the situation at hand.

    Don’t get me wrong, I like Halak and would be happy with him in nets next season, but circumstances dictate otherwise. I still think this was the right move…

     

    XXIV…and counting

  410. noelsroyce says:

    To all of those Halak fans who shelled out the $$ to buy an authentic jersey – sorry about your luck!

    LET THE DROOLING OVER CAREY PRICE CONTINUE FOR ME!!!

    YAY!!!

    ~Erin

  411. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    And I was getting happy about all those Price for Giroux rumors for no reason…lol just joking.

    I really hope Ellers turns out to be a top 6 forward. 

  412. SeriousFan09 says:

    Talk is Marleau’s family has no interest in leaving California, reports are he’s looking at the Kings.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  413. SeriousFan09 says:

    Paul Holmgren should submit to a drug test in that case.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  414. ZepFan2 says:

    Dude, you’re complaing about the French language, yet you don’t even have a grasp of the English language.

    Baby steps, baby steps!

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  415. Chuck says:

    Stubbs should have also congratulated him for all of the extra dough that he’s going to be making by playing somewhere else next season.

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  416. likehoy says:

    we’ll take their 4 first rounders, 2 second rounders, and what not and bank it.

  417. Caper says:

    I’m a Price guy however I became Halak fan because the team won. I’ve been a fan for 40 years and have seen a lot of dumb trades. I type on a computer. Pierre Gauthier is in fact a well respected hockey man. Halak won 9 playoffs game. The team played well in front of him. As Boone noted, and we all know it, Price had some bad luck. The fact is hockey commentators like Mckenzie , Bowman and McGuire(I know what’s coming) feel Price’s upside is huge and he is a can’t miss. Look what we got for St Patrick. Dip sh-t. Chris Chelios for Savard-ouch. A lot of comments note the number of free agents available in goal.  As usual , time will tell. But is’s only June and we’re talking Habs again!!! Wonderful.

  418. Fabio D says:

    When does the freaking science experiment end?? Every year for 6-8 years its been, lets try this, lets sign that, lets fire him! When does this team present a plan and stick to it? Draft and develop their talent, move them through the system, get them ready to produce in the NHL a la Claude Giroux or Van Riemsdyk….

    This team super exceeded expectations this year, Halak a vital piece of that. And it looked like this team was finally showing some promise and taking a step forward toward respectability again. And with one bonehead move, Gauthier moves the team 2 steps back to mediocrity- all due respect to Carey Price’s “potential”. It’ll mean squat if he gets shelled and chased from the net night in and night out.

    I can only hope this is the first of some major moves in the coming months to get the help desperately needed in scoring and defence. Because the Frankenstein philosophy this team seems to have adopted is wearing thin and is downright embarassing.

    I’m sick of seeing Hockey’s greatest franchise being run like an expanison team.

    Show me a plan Gauthier and stop dipping the toe in the water to see if its ok and dive in already!

     

  419. rehab says:

    A Great Dane and a Sergeant, missing pieces to the puzzle filled 

  420. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Not easily, nope, that’s false.

    Price has potential, he’s not at Halak’s level yet though.

    Halak is not easily replaceable. 

  421. twocents says:

    I think Eller and Shultz represent good return in the current market.

  422. HardHabits says:

    She’s baking bread as we speak.

  423. Don Carnage says:

    Yvon Pednault (sp) ? Spoke with John Davidson and right after the phone call said on the radio St Louis was not going to give up any of their core player’s so all this bull about Perron and others is just that BULL.

  424. Chuck says:

    Swap around the “1″ and the “4″ and cheer for Plekanec instead.

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    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  425. puck face says:

    funny , i knew we weren’t getting anything elite for our goalies and i prepared myself. must have had a small part of me that thought we could because i’m in mini shock just the same. just went to check out the blue’s boards and to my surprise the line of the day isn’t “what a steal !” but rather “too bad he’s going to be a good player , was looking forward to seeing him play next year.” so i’m looking at this trade in a positive way until i’m proven otherwise.

  426. terrygain says:

    I see logic is not your strong suit. The point  you are missing is that being a high draft pick is no guarantee of success. 

  427. Dwayne33 says:

    Quotes I just read from St.Louis fans,”Losing Eller and Schultz, this sucks enormously” and my personal favorite, “Congratulations Montreal, you just got your new Mats Naslund!”

  428. SeriousFan09 says:

    Kostitsyns are likely out, value could be higher than expected because of weak FA market for scoring, take a chance on some cheaper assets you can turn around rather than overpay by 1-2 million for a free agent.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  429. Omit says:

    You are living in la-la land if you think that PG could have gotten any of those players for Halak.

  430. likehoy says:

    also on the bright side, at least we have some prospects over 6’0.
    also on the bright side, the blues have done very well drafting over the last 5 years.
    also on the bright side, that’s 3-5 million freed up to sign our players and maybe some cash left over for an impact player

  431. alestar says:

    Agree, but if one had to go, my choice would be Halak (and not just because I have a Price shirt….LOL).

     

    XXIV…and counting

  432. JIMVINNY says:

    I don’t know if you are using that last anlogy correctly.  Most people would consider trading away Halak “diving in”.

  433. puck face says:

    what sources? true habs going with the cheaper Price and cheap prospects combined with not resigning Pleks frees up $. but will we get our hopes up only to be dissapointed again?

  434. Bugs says:

    Reckon the Blues feel the same way…

    Keepin it real, I be chillin as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Brotha to the Man with the Plan, Product-runnin Lead Houndogg with the Voodoo Flannel Posse, and Pimp Extraordinaire of Habsbros Mama Jones Snow Cones, muthafugga: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  435. JIMVINNY says:

    ha.  Really reational.  right.  Perron?  Backes?  Are you high?  Those guys are worth way more than an RFA Halak.

  436. coachdoug says:

    Several other sources???…Other “Baby Ninjas?”

    Plek may choose not to resign…I think he is going to Columbus personally…Could pave the way for Marleau…

    Better rumor is Kovalchuck….”Potsie” for 8 million…trade Price and put Youppi in net!  Several sources are talking about it…

  437. SeriousFan09 says:

    N/M.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  438. Max_a_million says:

    Hurray a corner of common sense!

  439. coachdoug says:

    Lucky for us hockey is played on the ice not the internet…what was Halak’s hockey DB grade? or Plek who was scouted as a third line center…

    Guys who played hockey have seen Eller in person and advised PG…you have to mine some gems in the salary Cap era…Look at Detroit…Datsyuk…Zetterberg

  440. light_n_tasty says:

    I’m glad we trust the Habs’ scouting staff all of a sudden…they’ve been great at mining those gems in the past, that’s for sure…[sarcastic roll of the eyes]…

  441. SeriousFan09 says:

    Habs are the 3rd-best team in the NHL for converting 2nd-7th round selections to NHL forward, the issue has been a lack of success in the 1st round.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  442. ed lopaz says:

    true enough.

    I met 21, 273 at game 3 vs Philly that would have hated this trade.

    before Halak, Price was all we knew.

    but now Habs fans have seen, first hand, what terrific goaltending can do for this team.

    40 saves, 45 saves, 50 something saves in game 6 vs Washington.

    the whole league was raving about halak.

    he was the difference maker.

    our TEAM gave everything they had, true enough.. blocked shots. lots of heart. lots of hustle.

    But I was THERE.

    You can NOT imagine the energy, the love the fans had for Halak.

  443. TripleX says:

     

    He will get 5 million for his HUGE POTENTIAL and the fact he is only 23!

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  444. Big Ted says:

    OK, time to move on from the ranting about the trade. Let’s talk about the ramifications of the trade for the upcoming season:

    1) With the need to pay Halak gone (and Price likely to re-sign somewhere in the neighborhood of his last season’s salary), we now actually have some leftover money to either re-sign Pleks or go after a free agent or two. Forget Ellis being ready to be a top-6 forward next year, that is extremely wishful, and the same can be said about Kristo or Leblanc. Those three guys might have a very outside shot at making the team, but they are not cogs on which the team can be built yet.

    2) So that being said, we can count Cammi, Gomez, Gio, and AK46 as 4 of our top 6 (barring trade). The 6th spot will questionably be there to be taken by one of Pouliot (does he have the character to do this?), Pacioretty (is he even ready to come back to the bigs?), or even SK74 (although it’s unlikely he ‘ll be back). But whether it’s Pleks or someone else, in addition to having room to re-sign/sign that player, we desperately need a top 2 center still and we didn’t get that from dealing one of our goalies. That is priority number one to address, whoever the solution ends up being or how it happens. After that we worry about shoring up our wingers, since AK, SK, and Pacioretty are not the guys you want to be counting on regularly.

    3) We also now are in the market for a number 2 goalie. I like Cedric Desjardins and what he might bring, but I think we’re all pretty much agreed that price will benefit more form a veteran back-up and that desjardins will benefit more from getting playing time as a numbe rone in the minors with the possibility of a call-up. So who could we get? forget trying to sign another number one type like dan ellis or ray emery or nabokov or turco. Smart money says the Habs go after a guy like Biron.

    4) The focus of this team should now be headed towards gearing them up to be stanley cup contenders in 3-4 years. the backbone is now clearly going to be price in goal; subban, gorges, OB on D; cammalleri, pouliot, lapierre, and hopefully kristo and ellis up front. Throw in another couple of guys who might develop out of the leblancs, trotters, pacioretty’s, webers, enqvists, avastins, neilsons etc. and maybe Pleks if he stays around. I’ll even still count on Gio being a player because of his hustle. But are we really going to build around Gomez, AK, and Markov. Hamrlik, Spacek, Gill, mara, metro, etc. all have their contracts expire but the other three have a legitimate shot of still being around in 3-4 years, and i don’t see any of them having much value at that time. I really think that if PG is being consistent with the plan the halak trade is invoking, that all three of thes guys (plus or minus Hamr and Spacek) have to be shipped out at the draft or at the trade deadline to acquire younger NHL-ready players to build the nucleus up with the new core we are trying to establish for 3 years from now. Moving Gomez will be hard. Moving Hamrlik may be possible at trade deadline, as he’s a UFA. But PG needs to seriously consider moving AK and Markov while they still have some value.

  445. Fabio D says:

    LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

    This team has an unexpected Play off run, and deal the one asset and player that got them there for 2 unheard of’s?? No draft picks, no roster player? No NHL general manager decision making here…..

    All due respect to Carey Price, I hope there is a veteran free agent signing this summer, cause unless Price morphs into the Tender his remaining supporters believe he is, this team is doomed to mediocrity for many many many seasons.

    Think I’ll hold off on planning any trips to Montreal for any games though.

    So far Gauthier, you suck. Ottawa didn’t succeed until you left. And so far your run as MTL GM is less than impressive.

     

  446. Jru says:

    In PG’s podcast, he says something about Eller and Shultz and then says they are like Kans and Toews… Not saying that they should be traded for them haha.

    They shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same preff conference let alone the same sentence.

  447. Seppo says:

    Still, both only have at best 1 good season.

    And Halak is shit scared of anything over 5’11 180lbs

  448. RetroMikey says:

    ME TOO!!!!!!!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  449. Jru says:

    Moore is legit.

     

  450. crabvader says:

    We are hurting on our wings so I think everyone in Hamilton has a chance to show they want to play for the Canadiens.

    Assuming the K’s are out too, we need wingers. Eller (not Ellis) can play either center or winger.

    This is a chance for these kids to prove how much drive they have.

  451. HardHabits says:

    Are you that know nothing that you consider volcano62 stupid when you
    know sh*t???

  452. ed lopaz says:

    my misunderstanding, I’m a little upset.

  453. TripleX says:

    Halak made 850,000 last season and Price 2.2 MILLION.  So you have 850,000 to sign a veteran backup and do what else dude?

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  454. RetroMikey says:

    Excellent post, Rock on Jaro! 

    Our flaw is not the players, but management in this organization we have.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  455. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Gritty Scandinavian(European) game = mediocre NHL career void of heart

  456. crabvader says:

    ………….

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia

    Sigh… Please read.

  457. crabvader says:

    Lol, oh.

  458. crabvader says:

    Hahaha, ok. Keep sipping the juice.

    Hjalmarsson, Lidstrom, Franzen and Zetterberg are collectively plugging their ears with their Stanley Cup rings a la St-Patty.

  459. SmartDog says:

    Can we send Gomez with them?

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  460. ed lopaz says:

    exactly, there is no real savings because Halak must be replaced by ANOTHER 850 K + goalie.

    where is the money to sign plekanec?

    there is more to come, because we have not saved a dime today.

  461. Bill H says:

    Very good post.  This gives some context to the trade.  It seems we have size and skill developing in the farm system.  Hopefully Eller and Schultz will be be assets for the big club in the future.

  462. avatar_58 says:

    Gainey had nothing to do with this. Time to admit the Price-train had nothing to do with him. In fact – maybe it was PG all along telling Gainey which man to back. Think about it.

  463. SlovakHab says:

    And Team Sweden with their Olympic gold medals from 4 years ago..

  464. ed lopaz says:

    each time some doubt would cross my mind, he would bounce back with a greater effort.

    amen.

    the guy earned my respect 1000 times over.

    obviously, the habs did not feel the same way – no matter how many games he was voted #1 star

  465. volcano62 says:

    Thanks Hardhabit

     

    Go Habs Go!

  466. SeriousFan09 says:

    Add Tomas Holmstrom, lives in the crease and with a bad back for years.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  467. light_n_tasty says:

    Well, at least we have Boucher to develop these promising prospects…

  468. SeriousFan09 says:

    Blame Nashville and Dallas for this as well folks. Their irresponsible contracts to Rinne and Lehtonen gave Halak a concrete bargaining position with salary abritration. NHL has been sabotaging itself for years with bad contracts.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  469. kempie says:

    So, just so I have this straight, Jaro is still a RFA, eligible for artbitration and as of July 1st will be exposed to offer sheets unless he signs a new deal by then right?

  470. warriorhockey says:

    ok boys, its not like we didint see this comeing i kinda kenw in the back of my mind Halak was not going to be with us next year and its good for him i hope he dose well and personeley i like this becaue i think eller is a good player and i think he will do well with us, hes a big center with good face off retings. i kinda gess from what you all are saying that your up set but we just half to look forword to what other crazzy moves this guy will make.

  471. HabsFan90 says:

    You have to look at it like this. Jaroslav Halak is no Patrick Roy or Ken Dryden. He did not win us a Cup. We don’t know if he will repeat what he did this year in the playoffs or during the regular season. Price has shown what he can do, and like Jaro, he HAS carried this team. 1st in the conference anyone? We were there because of Price. And he did it with a medeocre team without Cammalleri, Gionta, Plekanec, Gomez, etc. Jaro carried the team with better guys up front. So again, it’s dissapointing Jaro had to leave, but believe in Price. If anything, this gives him the confidence boost he needed, and he will work that much harder during his off-season training to be better than he ever has been.

  472. Seppo says:

    Who knows, Halak might be the new Tim Thomas…you know the one he became after signin his contract.

     

    Halak had one good half -season just like tim Thomas had 1 great season.

  473. crabvader says:

    I think it would be prudent to hire a veteran backup.

  474. crabvader says:

    Halak is like 10 years younger.

  475. doogmac says:

    read scott cullen’s take on the trade, he offers some good insight of eller and schultz

    http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/scott_cullen/?id=324944

  476. SlovakHab says:

    yep :) Let’s offer-sheet him so we have basically traded Eller and Schultz for 1st and 3rd :D

  477. crabvader says:

    What would be very refreshing is giving this Schultz kid a shot at 2-3 games in the big leagues to see how he does.

    I expect him to throw his weight around and drop em with whoever dares challenge him.

    If he could do that for us consistently, he will become a hero in Montreal very quickly.

  478. Propwash says:

    Everyone whining about this trade, put this into consideration. We need
    size up front, we got it, granted they’re not superstars, but it fills a
    need we were lacking for awhile now. You have to give up something. I
    wish Halak lots of luck in St. Louis, but I wonder if he will keep up
    his streak come next season.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  479. brad.men5 says:

    This trade makes so much sense. (sarcasm intended)

  480. ed lopaz says:

    what happens if Price wins 2 playoffs series, beats presidents cup and stanley cup champions, and then

    demands 5 million?

    he gets the 5 million right?

  481. ed lopaz says:

    Eller is the prospect, at least he’s played 1 year and done well in the AHL.

    Schultz is a fighter who has proven he can get 0,5 points per game in Junior.

    Schultz is a long way from the NHL.

  482. ManApart says:

    Maybe it was Gauthier who was behind all the dumb-dumb moves that Gainey made all this time.

  483. kempie says:

    So Alan Walsh is the big winner here. Must be nice to be that dink.

  484. limer says:

    i as a Montreal Candiens fan is very very dissapointed by this trade. I think this trade should have been done before Halak played this season. But now that i saw Halak’s true talent i wouldn’t be going for anything less than a Jeff Carter player. Somebody who could always be on the top 20 point scorers in the NHL. I think this trade will not help Price’s play or improve the team in anyway what so ever. Halak managed to beat to playoff rounds for us as those two other players didn’t manage to even bring their team to the playoff. Halak got underevaluated in this trade. Also people were always saying who should we trade Halak or Price? Y not just keep both of them and see which of them progresses more??

  485. habsfan321 says:

    Which is weird because Eller and Schultz are 1st and 3rd round draft picks…

  486. Ian Cobb says:

    When the Montreal Canadiens stop being a team Tony. Do you really think there is only one person running this franchise. You got to get out more my friend.

  487. SeriousFan09 says:

    Habs improvement at Centre since July 1st, 2009:

    Louis Leblanc, drafted 18th overall, 6′ and Ivy League Rookie of the Year.

    Joonas Nattinen, drafted 65th overall, 6’2″, played his first season in Finnish Elite League.

    Gabriel Dumont, drafted 139th overall, 5’10″, led the QMJHL in goal scoring and won the Guy Carbonneau trophy for defensive forward.

    Dustin Walsh, drafted 169th overall, 6’2″, 8G, 2A in 22 NCAA games this year.

    Michael Cichy, drafted 199th overall, 5’11″.

    Andreas Engqvist, FA signing, 6’3″, scored 14G, 12A in Regular season, 5G, 8A in 16 playoff games.

    Lars Eller, drafted 13th overall in 2007, 6’1″, scored 18G, 39A in first AHL season, first-year on NA ice.

    Canadiens have now acquired 5 centres that are at least 6′ tall in under a year. The Brendon Nash signing and some deft moves on draft day, Canadiens could also address their big defencemen issue inside of a year for the pipeline as well.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  488. crabvader says:

    Obviously he’s got to develop and I wasn’t talking about having him do that this year.

  489. TripleX says:

    Thank you Jaroslav Halak for giving this Habs fan the single greatest playoff season of my life.  You were an inspiration and a joy to watch, and I will treasure the memories you gave me.

    I have no doubt you will continue on your stellar rise to the top ranks of NHL goalies.  You deserve every accolade and the financial security that this upcoming contract will bring.

    The Montreal management team might not believe in you, but millions of fans do.  Rock on Mr. Halak.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  490. volcano62 says:

    The thing that bothers me is not that they traded Halak, we all knew that was a possiblility. It’s the fact that they got fuck all in return……..

    Ia this organization really that stupid? First the scouts now this bonehead trade? Is Reggie Houle still in charge or something?

  491. habs03 says:

    Excatly, Eller is a lot like Pleck in the style of play expect Eller bigger and has more grit to his game. Would have liked more but I think he would have need to trade to an eastern team to get more.

  492. volcano62 says:

    The thing that bothers me is not that they traded Halak, we all knew that was a possiblility. It’s the fact that they got fuck all in return……..

    Is this organization really that stupid? First the scouts now this bonehead trade? Is Reggie Houle still in charge or something?

  493. RJ says:

    Because it is Price, they will make it $10M. Halak has always been second fiddle.

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  494. salshabs says:

    The way I thought it would play out is that Halak would be offered something from another team, the Habs would have to match. They would decline to match, and, viola, Carey is the Man by default.

    Halak paid his dues, I don’t think he is a one hit wonder. He’s a pro. Hopefully, Price saw what Halak did and learned from it. If he did, and, all indications are that he an was awesome, as a teammate, thoughout the playoffs. Then there is hope. Now, can Hab fans cut him some slack while he regains their confidence, that’s the $64, 000 question? Has he matured enough to understand the opportunity he has in front of him? Did he see that Halak was a God for what he did in this year`s playoffs, and, does he want some of that?

    Will it be Desjardins, as his back-up, or, will they get a Biron or a Turco (too expensive for a back-up?). We’ll see. Maybe, Halak’s agent just wanted too much, (they did not want to embrass him, or themselves, in arbitration)and PG just jumped at the chance to land something, anything, rather that see him go for zero return? Maybe, BG, Price’s Daddy, is still running the show! Yikes!

    Bottom line, the line between Halak and Carey wasn’t that big. A few saves/goals, here and there and we are looking at a different reality. Should be fun, that`s why I love the Habs, let’s have at it HIO…

     

  495. Jru says:

    Lars Eller + Ian Shultz = Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane

    Thanks PG

  496. habs11s says:

    PG defines his career in one move….

    http://habs-4-life.blogspot.com/

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________

    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

     

  497. crabvader says:

    Good thing about Eller is he plays a gritty Scandinavian game. Remember watching Norway during the Olympics?

    These guys aren’t afraid to get their noses dirty at all. If he also has good hands and playmaking skills, this guy might turn out to be a diamond in the rough for our organization.

  498. smiler2729 says:

    Are you that stupid that you consider Ellers and Schultz sh*t when you know nothing about them???

  499. limer says:

    Next year Stanley CUPS FINALS FEATURING JAROSLAV HALAK IN NETS for the effin blues

  500. HardHabits says:

    I am going to repost this earlier response to SD:

    Look guys (and gals), I have been psychologically preparing myself for
    this for a few months now. Does anybody here seriously think I actually
    want the Habs to tank? I am going to be a blithering idiot
    writhing in pain watching as this team sinks to the depths of the
    league. Believe me it’ll be more difficult on me than I dare admit. I
    have been offering up this ruse as a form of reverse psychology in the hopes
    that I will believe every word I’ve spouted about building from
    the draft lottery, that it’ll only take a few tanks to set the
    ship right. Woe is me.

  501. crabvader says:

    Are you saying we should’ve gotten Toews and Kane in return for Halak?

    Are you being sarcastic?

     

  502. ManApart says:

    What are you talking about, we have a 7 million dollar 12 goal scorer, if this regime is still in place in a few years, Price gets at least 5 million for having a .375 winning%.

  503. SmartDog says:

    Best news Ive read here

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  504. Chuck says:

    Meh. It’s only June.  :)

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  505. SeriousFan09 says:

    Lapierre showed up when we needed him in the playoffs and put in a couple of huge goals, he’s welcome here if he repeats that and brings his 08-09 regular season self back into action full time.

    And for the record:

    Roman Hamrlik: Born in Zlin, Czech Republic, played for them in the 1998 and 2002 Olympics, World Cup and IIHF World Championships, oops. That and Hamrlik is about as Russian a last name as Smith.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  506. sholi2000.com says:

    lol, I can just wonder how you got it?  On seconds thought I don’t wonder……….

    Halak tissue coming your way.

    They Call Me Shane

  507. MontrealAtheist says:

    Well, I guess there goes our play-off hope for the upcoming season which has not even started yet.

    Mark my words, there is not a chance in hell we could possibly make the play-offs with Price as the #1 goalie.

  508. TripleX says:

    It was inane enough the first time dude.

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  509. SlovakHab says:

    I know who chose him. It’s just a little bit of a trivia that I found interesting.

    This pick helped the Leafs to become bottom feeders. I love them trading Toskala and Belle for a 1st, 2nd and 4th rounder.

  510. Aybara says:

    Lars Eller

    Talent Analysis

    Eller has decent size, is a good
    skater with very good technical skills. He also works hard and is in
    general very well-rounded as a player. His scoring touch is pretty good,
    but Eller is much more noticeable as a playmaker. He has really good
    hockey sense and has that special ability to find openings that few
    other players can. A team player, he plays a good two-way game, but
    could still use some fine-tuning in his defensive game and play without
    the puck.

    Future

    Eller is projected to become a
    two-way forward, second line, in the NHL one day.

    Ian
    Schultz

    Schultz gets noticed for his physical play more than
    for his offensive
    skill.  Schultz could eventually become a power forward, but he may also
    develop into a solid grinding winger.

    http://www.hockeysfuture.com

  511. TripleX says:

    I feel so much better……rolling eyes.

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  512. SeriousFan09 says:

    You’re nothing but negative unless your narrow-minded agenda about the team should be run is filled out.

    He’s a disgrace and wants the team to lose? Please. I think you’d rather see this time lose with Price and be proven right than wrong.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  513. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    is this some kind of sick joke? is management being held hostage at gunpoint? what the HE()*^)_L is going on with this organization??

    your telling me thats all we could get for a superstar goalie!!!!!!… WHAT A BLOODY JOKE.

    how about a centreman over 6′ for starters…. IDIOTS.

  514. SlovakHab says:

    Me too.

    But to give you my opinion: Yes, I think that this was the best deal we were offered. Otherwise they would have not pulled it off.

  515. dallyd31 says:

    They love getting Halak but are disaapointed in losing Eller.  Many are saying that he would easily be on the the top two lines in St Louis next year for sure..labelled as a very exciting player.

    This is coming from Blues fans as I know nothing of Eller.

  516. TripleX says:

    In what universe is Shultz considered a “huge prospect”?  HAHAHAHAHA

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  517. punkster says:

    Uh, ok…so I’m going to have dinner first then digest this one. Then I’ll read what the Commentariat has to say.

    FREE TIMO!

  518. Anonymous says:

    How about eller.

  519. HardHabits says:

    Anyone have a line on what the draft lottery for 2011 looks like?

  520. SmartDog says:

    Pretty close to my sentiments.

    Re. your answer to #5, very brave!  I have to admit I had this little fantasy that Jaro and Pleks would both end up on the Bolts and I’d have two favorite teams.  I think Boucher was a huge loss… worse that the old boys network just decided amongst themselves they didn’t need him. Now Jaor… next Pleks.  Sucks.

     

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  521. Chorske says:

    Any Cup ring Kordic wore was put there by his 85-86 Habs teammates.

    The coke in his nose, he put there all by hisself. I don’t tend to have much sympathy for folks that self-destruct.

  522. SlovakHab says:

    Sorry to ruin your world, but nobody is getting younger as time passes by. Not even Molson sons. Or as you call them – SONS.

    And by the way – we had a young coach last season – remember how it went?

  523. MontrealAtheist says:

    France were not even supposed to be IN the World Cup to begin with, so no pity here … They had to cheat their way over Ireland through an obvious handball for which the ref looked the other way and everyone on the French team and bench kept very quiet about.

  524. Storm Man says:

    The Leafs and Blues are liking it.

  525. TripleX says:

     

    Do you understand basic math??????

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  526. SeriousFan09 says:

    Draft for 2011 has been estimated to be average to weak potentially, it could upgrade of course as some younger kids fill out and hit their stride of course.

    Likely basement teams, Thrashers, Panthers if Tallon starts a full rebuild, Oilers lack any defence or goaltending so cue them up, Jackets wouldn’t shock me, Loafs if they don’t find someone besides Kessel who can score, which means really Boston is in the mix and Islanders are always potentially in that territory.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  527. Chorske says:

    lol, do not try to pierce the fogs of HP’s mind, it’s a sisiphean task 

  528. Dintrox says:

    He is a pretty big boy. 6’3 210 lbs. He had a decent year with the hitmen.

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  529. GrimJim says:

    Roman Hamrlík


    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


     
    Born April 12, 1974 (1974-04-12) (age 36),
    Gottwaldov, TCH
    Height
    Weight
    6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)
    223 lb (101 kg; 15 st 13 lb)
    Position Defence
    Shoots Left
    NHL team
    F. teams
    Montreal Canadiens
    Calgary Flames
    New York Islanders
    Edmonton Oilers
    Tampa Bay Lightning
    ZPS Zlín (Czechoslovak/CZE)
    Ntl. team  Czech Republic
    NHL Draft 1st overall, 1992
    Tampa Bay Lightning
    Playing career 1990–present

    Roman Hamrlík (born April 12, 1974 in Gottwaldov, Czechoslovakia), popularly nicknamed “The Hammer” is a Czech professional ice hockey defenceman currently playing for the Montreal Canadiens of the National Hockey League (NHL).

  530. Anonymous says:

    I don’t remember hearing him say that, a metaphor perhaps? I would like to hear this, please, provide me a link.

  531. Bill J says:

    As long as you are the judge – I am not concerned.  Someone being as dumb as you are to name call someone you have never met in your life, you are only proving how “classy” a Habs fan you are.

    GET A LIFE!

  532. diehardhockeyfan says:

    eller might have decent size, but his 2 inch cock will definitely be a let down. I will give you credit tho, he does work hard because you cant make the nhl if your that garbage without working hard. Question. does ian schultz take the hockey stick up his ass? This is your own words, “. He has really good hockey sense and has that special ability to find openings that few other players can.” i guess if the puck wont go up his ass Eller can find a better place. fuck man, you guys know the habs arent going to win the stanley cup… even if they lick his balls. 

  533. Chorske says:

    And here’s the thing- we had a decent guy in Lever, who we canned- to make room for a great guy in Boucher, who we lost. From having two great coaches in the pipeline to none in two years. Who is going to mold all of our supposedly solid prospects? Muller? But I like having him behind the Habs bench- and you KNOW he is getting headhunted after a year in the AHL anyway.

    Not a happy day in Chorskeville, SmartDog.

  534. Aybara says:

    I’m sorry you found my information so offensive.

  535. ManApart says:

    Stop talking Garbage. It seems I’m one of the few on here that value winning and getting better above all else. My agenda is winning, yours and others are making up delusional stories and convincing themselves everything is great no matter what. Reminds me of religious fanatics. If Price was a better goalie than Halak and made us a better team, then I’m happy. He isn’t and almost surely won’t. I could live with Halak going if we got a good top 6 guy like Carter or Backes or Perron or Oshie or Berglund. But what happened today was not a great thing for this franchise. So wake up and get real. Enough with the fantastical BS

  536. Chuck says:

    Yep… and he’ll also get to feed off of the New York Islanders’ and Carolina Hurricanes of the eastern conference just like Halak did earlier in the season.

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  537. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    who the heck is elle? some talkshow host?… We all know what Halak can do, bring you to the Conf finals at the least, put a solid team in front of him so he doesn’t face 100+shots / game and you’ve actually gotten a chance to go all the way…. now thats an impact player, PRICE is a big question mark, Halak wasn’t. I nor anyone else in the Habs organization has any idea what an elle is… as for Shultz, at least he is tough, heaven knows we need that.

  538. Omit says:

    If I have a choice of believing you or Scotty Bowman for an evaluation of Carey Price, I think I’ll take  his opinion over yours.

  539. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    A second-line centre, just what this team needs!!

  540. punkster says:

    1. No idea but I think people should chill.

    2. No idea but I think people should chill.

    3. No idea but I think people should chill.

    4. No idea but I think people should chill.

    5. No idea but I think peope should chill.

     

    FREE TIMO!

  541. mike g says:

    I just love how in Montreal the word “superstar” means “any player who’s played very well for 2 months or more”….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

  542. Chuck says:

    Yep. But feel free to point out what you think it is that I’m not understanding.

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  543. Anonymous says:

    Eller is a center that’s greater than 6′ tall.

  544. TripleX says:

    That dumb theory was proven wrong in the playoffs.  I guess you missed it because you were playing with your Price doll in the closet.

    The Eastern conference can’t possibly be as bad next season and the Habs will be in tough to make eighth. 

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  545. Chorske says:

    Russia. Hammerlik Is russian EINSTEIN.

    Czech Republic. Hamrlik Is czech GOOFBALL.

  546. diehardhockeyfan says:

    im just kidding man, us habs fans gotta stick together, im just pissed they traded halak man fuk we got so closeee to the cup, wut do u think of our chances next year

  547. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    well thats a start…

  548. ManApart says:

    Why don’t you believe your own eyes. From what I’ve seen, Halak has shown a lot more success and a lot more ability than price has ever shown. Halak has shown he is the man, Price is just a shot in the dark.

  549. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I remember that as well…the most worked up he got in the press conference. Almost as good as the comment about the reporter’s wife keep her opinions to baking or whatever it was.

  550. Max_a_million says:

    Exactly … Who only cost 875K, and was an all star last year in the AHL coming off mono.

    Schultz is big with some scoring touch.

    Thank you for not trading for an overpaid 35 year old.

    It makes no sense to trade for an expensive player.

  551. RJ says:

    At least Halak has played well for two months….that’s two months longer than The Anointed One. Check Price’s playoff record and get back to me.

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  552. SeriousFan09 says:

    Wasn’t a great thing for the franchise of course, but a reality of the salary cap era and other, highly irresponsible NHL teams signing names like Rinne and Lehtonen to bloated contracts that gave Halak ridiculous bargaining power in arbitration and negotiation with the team since with those two earning well above their worth, he was easily going to command 4 million or better. Signing goaltenders to big money, long-term has failed so often in the NHL in the last five year it’s a depressing and cautionary tale.

    It’s delusional to think with the # of goalies hitting FA, which goalies were in the Cup Final and the the number of big-money goaltenders failing all the time, that Halak could demand a 40-goal scorer like Carter or highly-ranked prospect like Berglund. Goalies don’t bring in equal value in trades.

    I’d rather believe the team can forge on and make improvements than be pessimistic and say how we’ve given up the future and we’re heading for the toilet.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  553. Chuck says:

    Theory? Did Halak not win a bunch of games vs. non-playoff teams early in the season?

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  554. Omit says:

    A shot in the dark?  Compare Price’s stats to Patrick Roy and see the truth. Price might have had a few off-ice problems, but I think that’s over and done with. He’ll be fine.

  555. Les Habitants says:

    Where’s Timo?

     He should be having a field day with this trade

    I’d figure he’d be in complete meltdown mode by now

      His fists are probably to tightly clinched in rage to type?

     

     

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  556. sholi2000.com says:

    AH WHAT A GREAT DAY!  :)

    They Call Me Shane

  557. Bill J says:

    I’m with ya sholi…

    Mostly happy because once & for all the Halak V. Price debate is DONE.

     

  558. SLONCOLD says:

    what a great day…. we traded away one of our best players from last season….

  559. SeriousFan09 says:

    It’ll be going on long after this guys. Andrei Kostitsyn Versus the 2003 draft class still comes up 7 years after the fact. Halak and Price will go head to head in stats around here until I retire and I’m 26.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  560. sholi2000.com says:

    So were you going to knit the money he most likely wanted (Halak)?

    They Call Me Shane

  561. Offensive DMan says:

    I’m sick, just a new mess to contend with.  What were they thinking? 

    The return of Reggie Houle days is nigh….

  562. RC-51 says:

    Trading Halak was the right decision. Price is our future, Still TOO early to give up on him!

    Halak9th round -271st overall25 yrs old

    Eller   - 1st round -13th  overall21 yrs old

    Shultz - 3rd round -87th overall20 yrs old

    Sad to see Jaro go but glad that Carey is still around and we are younger, (better?) now we have money to sign Pleks

  563. SLONCOLD says:

    and how much will price get… mark my words he’ll sign a 4 year 13m deal…. so 3.25 a year.

    for gthe the 900k qualifying offer. if they do that other teams will make offers…. also look around teh league. NHL starts all make about 3M a year

  564. HardHabits says:

    You are way to naive my friend. What happens if Halak leads the Blues to a deep playoff run and the Habs make it to the draft lottery next season. Yes I will find a silver lining in that murky and dark cloud but these boards and others like it will be rife with venom spewing forth about how this trade was a disaster. This could very well be Patrick Roy to the Avalanche version 2.0.

  565. HardHabits says:

    I hope to high hell that another team offers Price an insane offer sheet.

  566. old fan says:

    I didn’t know that Reggie Houle was still calling the shots for goalie deals ?? – a great follow up to the Roy deal -all be it a few years late – great philosophy in Habsville “- team motto – ” snatch defeat from the jaws of victory”

  567. kordic says:

    Finally a great trade!

    They are finally listening bringing In some SIZE instead of midgets. The Habs still have to get rid of the 3 Russians Hammer, a kost, s kost and pleks. They should be able to pick up a decent D man for pleks, but the other 2 might go for Reno Depot Gift card.

    This team already looks better so I’m very happy that It’s close to the weekend and I could celebrate with my football and my Hockey.

    France being out of the world cup says to me that the French In soccer are underachievers too, so lap don’t feel too bad that you’re garbage.

    I LOVE the Habs!!!

  568. Chuck says:

    Good stuff…

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  569. SLONCOLD says:

    shultz is a depth player

    eller hasn’t developed the way they thought he would and he had a serious injury prior to last year.

    we gave up our best player and gotno roster players back

  570. Storm Man says:

    What if Halak does not like the smaller pads for next year and plays like Jose?

  571. Storm Man says:

    Perfect.

  572. SmartDog says:

    5 QUESTIONS:

    1. Is this the best they could get for Halak realistically?

    2. Halak went from savior to cheap commodity in a few weeks.  Does this reflect poorly on PG and the Habs organization?

    3. Are you happy at least that PG seems to be looking for big forwards (AND that at least one seems to be a good bet)?.

    4. Gauthier as much as said they decided in meetings that Price is
    the better long-term gamble.  What do you think of that?

    5. Who/what is the next domino to fall?

    SD

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  573. Chuck says:

    We use the money that Halak would have wanted to now sign Pleks.

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  574. Offensive DMan says:

    Oh, just stop it, will you. What kind of comparison are you trying to do?

    Not a good approach to take.

  575. TripleX says:

    They never talked to his agent.  It was not about money or who would bring the most back in a trade.  Price was designated the “franchise” by Bob and his protege is just carrying on.  Price would never be No.1 with Halak on the team.  If Price could not take it away by his performance on the ice then by God management will just trade the competition away.

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  576. HardHabits says:

    Oh the irony. Nice Howard Cosellian play-by-play.

  577. Price_31 says:

    WOW. We could’ve gotten so much more.

  578. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hamrlik and Pleks are Czech, the Kostitsyns are Belarusians and it’s really odd calling yourself a Habs fan and saying the French are underachievers when it was French Canadians who have pretty much brought in every Cup since the 1940s.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  579. HardHabits says:

    Nice new avatar. LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!

  580. RJ says:

    This is my take on how this thing went down. Right before the playoffs the team met with Price and told him he was going to be the #1 next season regardless of what happened in the postseason. The team never intended to sign Halak. Price who has complained often about not playing was the perfect player and took being #2 in stride. In fact, at the end of the season the players spoke of how professional Carey took not playing. He was on best behavior knowing what none of us knew. Price was going to get the job when all was said and done.   

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  581. Storm Man says:

    the team saved around 4-5 mil per year in cap room to go and get top 6 player for this team. Lets see what this team look like before singing the Blues :)  When the season starts.

  582. Gus says:

    This was a good move, and in many cases the only move.  Jaro played great, but I believe we saw his ceiling – whether in the regular season, Olympics or playoffs, he was sensational and won games, but also came up very flat in others – many times being pulled.  Frankly, while he is a good goaltender, he is not an elite tender – think of someone like Cusrtis Joseph, very good and winning many games, but not eilte.

    If there was no cap, of course you keep both Halak and Price and see what turns out.  With a cap, the Habs could not keep Jaro – he will get approx $4+m / yr, the Habs need that money for a 1st/2nd line centre and scoring winger.  Price comes cheaper, so this deal has to be evaulated as Jaro for the 2 prospects, plus what they do with the money savings keeping Carey (Pleks, or a big C via trade).

    I would like to see Gauthier sign Price to a 3-4 year deal, at a reaonsable amount – $2.5-$3m (might be tough) – a one/two year deal around $1.75-$2m is likely, but that will provide a lot of flexibility moving forward.

    Carey does have much better upside and can be the elite goaltender that Jaro will not become.  Goalies like Jaro come along every year (one big year – the next big thing, then… do we have to look much past Huet?), so if Carey does not work out, it will not kill the franchise…it would be disastrous however to move Price and have him become the elite goaltender many, including me, think he can become.  As Boone would say – “Carey F Price”

  583. Bill J says:

    You assume a LOT!

    So who is naive then HH ?

    & BTW this could very well be Huet 2.0….  Or Theodore 3.0

    It can go many different ways – get your head of of your a** HH

     

  584. SmartDog says:

    Seems to know what he’s doing. Good control, quick hands.

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  585. HardHabits says:

    History will be made. ;-)

  586. RJ says:

    Has anyone ever told you how smart you are?

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  587. Bill J says:

    LMFAO!!!!

    LOVE IT Chuck!

  588. roughneck says:

    What a great deal!!!! Get rid of the guy who does not have the physical capability to be a bonafide #1 goalie to play 55-60 games and survive 4 rounds in a cup run. He won 2 rounds, big deal! Time to let the future grow. Halak won’t.

  589. roughneck says:

    What a great deal!!!! Get rid of the guy who does not have the physical capability to be a bonafide #1 goalie to play 55-60 games and survive 4 rounds in a cup run. He won 2 rounds, big deal! Time to let the future grow. Halak won’t.

  590. Chuck says:

    Really? From who? And what would “so much more” be?

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  591. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. Won’t know since Gauthier won’t reveal what was offered in the East, but with goaltending having lost serious value on the market in the past 3 years, it’s not totally unsurprising, too many 1-hit wonders followed by bad seasons have GMs very skeptical about goalie value.

    2. No, it’s a business plain and simple. Halak would demand a large salary increase and would get it through arbitration thanks to the idiots in NSH and DAL who overpayed their goalies and would use those contracts to get his own big raise. Habs had to weigh his potential performance against cap concerns and note they still had a young goalie with a very high potential in the wings at a much lower cost. Hard decision, but it will be years before we know it was the right one.

    3. Yes

    4. It makes sense looking at some of his earlier work, Juniors, AHL and and his first year and a half in the NHL. Talent level is high, he’s still cheap and became much more a team man towards the end of last year. Higher-risk gamble of course, but the reward level is just as high.

    5. Kostitsyns to go.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  592. kordic says:

    Richards are long gone sonny boy. Learn. past Is your post plus all those cups.

    Don’t get technical with me, they are RUSSIAN. I said 3 RUSSIANS.

    Pleks Is garbage and small, get rid of him for a D man. He was hardly visable 2 years In a row when It counts. IN THE PLAYOFFS.

     

     

     

     

    I LOVE the Habs!!!

  593. SeriousFan09 says:

    Avatar of the year.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  594. SlovakHab says:

    SD, we cannot know if this the best they could get for Halak.

    We have NO information whatsoever. We have absolutely no knowledge on what’s happening behind the scenes.

    But it’s easy to criticize.

  595. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    What does this mean for Chris Mason?

  596. jennifer1984 says:

    Well Im very disappointed about the trade.

    However my sister and I are walking out of the Bell Centre (we live 2 hours southwest of Toronto) and a guy from TSN sees we are huge Habs fans (maybe because of the 4 bags of about $600 worth of stuff we just dropped inside) and asks us if we want to be on TSN.

     

    So tonight we’re on tsn talking about the Halak trade. Now dont get your panties in a knot if I say something you dont like! Plus I was on the spot and nervous.

     

    Anyway I wish Halak all the best.
    Also, the security guard at the Habs Zone (nice lady btw) said if not tomorrow, all Halak stuff will be on sale. So we’re going back!

  597. Chorske says:

    more ignorant redneck nonsense

    and wrong, too- France is IN the world cup

    and named after a coke addicted bonehead too

  598. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I’m reserving judgement on the deal, as the shock is still settling in.  But I have to say I’m surprised that PG didn’t even broach any talks with Halak and Walsh.   At least see what they were asking, I don’t see how that could have hurt.

  599. adam76 says:

    baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  600. kordic says:

    Learn. Both games.

    France lost today einstein, they are out. AWESOME!!

    Kordic was a Nhl player who won the Stanley Cup!! Who the hell are you?

    I’m Italian, not  Canadian.

     

     

     

    LOVE the Habs!!!

  601. SmartDog says:

    Most of what people say (or write) is speculation, or at best, educated guesses.  That’s the poin.  I’m looking for opinions.

    I do wonder what the Sharks offered (they apparently were in the mix).  Or the Bolts. 

    ————————————————————
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  602. nickster13 says:

    1. No, we could have done better, I bet St louis was easily happy to let them go rather than us prying them away..

    2. Yes it does, because halak made the city excited about hockey. Even non hockey fans know who halak is

    3. These ones are exactly huge, but we will see how they pan out

    4. I say how can you even prove that if youre gauthier

    5. Player or management?

  603. SlovakHab says:

    Eller was originally a Maple Leafs 1st round pick. Then they shipped this pick in a Vesa Toskala deal to SJ. Then SJ traded it to STL. He’s a pretty well travelled player :)

  604. SeriousFan09 says:

    So suddenly French Canadians are now garbage and shouldn’t be bothered with? Wow that’s a nice piece of bigotry right there.

    Belarus has been a nation of itself for various times in history, I choose to respect their right to self-determination and call a country and it’s citizens by the correct term. And that’s still only 2 with the brothers, unless you’re part of the loony fandom portion that thinks we should trade team MVP Markov.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  605. ManApart says:

    I really don’t get ridiculous posts like yours. People talk about Halak like it’s a given that he’s a one hit wonder. Why? Oh because they believe so. Pure idiocy. The man has been an excellent goalie at every level, all the time, everywhere. The man tranceded the game, this season. He continues to improve and there is tangible evidence of how good he is. Price on the other hand stinks up the joint to no end, but he’s the legend in the making. Why? Oh because you believe so. Not like he’s shown any evidence remotely to that of Halak. You all are a bunch of sick individuals

  606. sholi2000.com says:

    Good MOve?  No, GREAT MOVE.

    They Call Me Shane

  607. SLONCOLD says:

    true price will be free next year. as a nhl starter he will expect and now has leverage to want more. expect 3- 3.5 a year

  608. TripleX says:

    Wow why don’t you have a job in the NHL as GM dude?  You can predict that Halak is a one shot wonder and Price will be an elite goalie.  What games have you been watching the last two years that would indicate this?

    Boy are we lucky to get rid of that bum Halak.  Should I plan for the parade next June?

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  609. ManApart says:

    What a loser. We trade our MVP and a top 5 goalie in the world last season for next to nothing and it’s a great day. You are no Habs fan. You do not support winning, you support lunacy.

  610. Big Ted says:

    1. At this time, maybe. But I think we could have gotten more once free agency started and the UFA goalies started getting signed. There are so many teams without number ones that at least one would have panicked and jumped at Halak.

    2. No. He wasn’t a cheap commodity, I think the Habs just felt it had to be done in order to be able to sign Pleks or another UFA, given what his agent seemed to think he was worth.

    3. Yes. We need talent with size. Just wished there was at least one player who had shown he can skate in the NHL already.

    4. Debatable. No one knows whether Price or Halak will be the better goalie long-term. What works in favor of Price is that he will be able to demand less money this year as an RFA and he has better size. But as I said, who knows.

    5. The team will attempt to sign Pleks before July 1st. Otherwise, we need to focus on another top 2 center. I think AK46, SK74, Hamrlik, and maybe even Markov will be shopped, although with Markov being out, now probably isn’t the right time to trade him until he shows he’s recovered from injury and gets his value back up.

  611. kordic says:

    Who said that about all french players all the time? I said Lap Is garbage!! not Pouliot.

    Russia. Hammerlik Is russian EINSTEIN.

    I want Markov UNLESS we can Improve with a good hard nose Canadian kid who really wants to win the cup.

     

    I LOVE the Habs!!!

  612. Storm Man says:

    Maybe PG was talking to Walsh in the playoffs and did not like what he was hearing.

  613. SLONCOLD says:

    i have a price jock..want it?

  614. JIMVINNY says:

    But he was chosen by the Blues.  The fact that the pick once belonged to the leafs is irrelevant.

  615. SmartDog says:

    Me too.PG said he didnt need to talk to them. Seems kind of arrogant. The good communication establishrd by Carbo-Gainey continues.

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  616. petrov14 says:

    Im not suprised Halak was traded, its what we got back that has me stunned! Hey Eller, no pressure, eh.

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  617. Big Ted says:

    Yes, halak was exciting and everyone loved him, but Kovalev was exciting too, and while i missed watching him play this year, it’s clear the team moved on without him.

  618. Chorske says:

    1. the more pertinent question is- could we have gotten more for Price- I think yes, because Price had decent numbers, is a 1st rounder, and is still developing

    2. it is part of a general trend of misusing assets

    3. I guess, I don’t think the team is undersized (the stats show we aren’t), but we are definitely undermean

    4. How long term? Five years? How long is the contract we’re about to give that kid, and how likely is he to be thankful when his crack at UFA comes up? Not bloody likely, I’d say. We’re going to give him a three year contract, and then lose him just as he is rounding into form. It’s what we do here at Habs Inc.

    5. I think Metro and Moore are gone- and with them, much of the grit that many HIOers are always going on and on about. I think Pouliot is going to get another one year look. If they re-sign Bergeron, I am really going to have to re-evaluate how invested I am in this team. As a fan, I don’t take kindly to being served a crap product for decades on end.

  619. MontrealAtheist says:

    Bob Gainey must be dancing on the streets right now … He got his wish after all.

  620. dallyd31 says:

    The folks on the Blues board think Eller is great and was expected to be a regualar next season.  They say he has geat hands and great speed. 

    They say we will not be disappointed.

  621. SmartDog says:

    you have a point, a good one actually

    ————————————————————-
    Not signing or trading Pleks = yet another missed opportunity.

  622. Chuck says:

    Jaro will have fun playing Chicago, San Jose, Detroit, Vancouver, Calgary and the Kings six times each this season.

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  623. TripleX says:

    I don’t get it either.  On the one hand you have a goalie who has PROVEN at every level that he is very good and a tenacious fighter, and on the other a goalie who has shown brief flashes but has been a disappointment overall with potential.

    Some deny what they have seen with their own eyes in this years playoffs and predict greatness as if it is FACT.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  624. sholi2000.com says:

    Two huge prospects, I love it!

    They Call Me Shane

  625. TripleX says:

    Price will have fun facing Washington and Pittsburgh  six times this season.  Payback is a B I T C H.

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  626. ManApart says:

    Another donkey, who’s happy our MVP, who is on his way to greatness, is gone. The man gave a city and an entire generation of fans, that don’t go back farther than 1993, a little taste of what kind of excitement this down used to have every year. You just want to go back to losing. You’re a disgrace to all Habs fans. 

  627. SeriousFan09 says:

    Reposted from earlier, my research on our new guys.

    Hockey’s

    Future profiles for Eller and Schultz, with IHDB career stats for Eller and Schultz.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  628. oshawahabsfan says:

    Who the f*ck is Ian Schultz?

  629. Ian Cobb says:

     Mike!

  630. smiler2729 says:

    So apparently according to you Halakians, the St.Louis Blues are winning the Cup next season.

  631. jkirk says:

    Last time I checked, Boone described Halak as ‘The goaltender who won two playoff rounds’, which is the quote that got this thread going.

     

  632. ManApart says:

    Are you that blind. This team never makes the playoffs if it was no Halak and only Price, never mind winning a playoff series. Halak was MVP of this team hands down and now we get Price, the man who always finds a way to lose.

  633. Storm Man says:

    Go and cheer for the Blues.

  634. Top Corner says:

    Wondering…

    Who will now ride the “pine”?  Desharnais ??? or Sanford ?

  635. petefleet says:

    It is a sad day.  I have liked Halak since the very first time I saw him play.  His composure under pressure is second to none.  Even when he got shelled because of poor team defence, he always kept his chin up.  Carey Price would do well to learn this lesson quick.  I predict Price will play more than 41 games this year.  I also predict he will lose more than he wins.  The Habs have made a tragic mistake by putting their future on Price’s shoulders.  He will not be the next St. Patrick or Hart trophy winner Theodore.  It is going to be a difficult year for Habs fans.

  636. solsub says:

    Terrible trade. I knew Halak was gonna get the boot, I’m just disappointed with what they got for him.

     

    Oh my…

  637. petefleet says:

    It is a sad day.  I have liked Halak since the very first time I saw him play.  His composure under pressure is second to none.  Even when he got shelled because of poor team defence, he always kept his chin up.  Carey Price would do well to learn this lesson quick.  I predict Price will play more than 41 games this year.  I also predict he will lose more than he wins.  The Habs have made a tragic mistake by putting their future on Price’s shoulders.  He will not be the next St. Patrick or Hart trophy winner Theodore.  It is going to be a difficult year for Habs fans.

  638. megagoten says:

    THOSE WHO ARE RAGING : PROPOSE AN ALTERNATIVE THAT FITS IN THE SALARY CAP

  639. MTLForever says:

    I know lots of people bash Price, but his percentage is actually good if you didn’t notice. We lack to score enough in front of him. 

  640. MTLForever says:

    I know lots of people bash Price, but his percentage is actually good if you didn’t notice. We lack to score enough in front of him. 

  641. habs03 says:

    I loved Halak and what he did in the playoffs was wow. With that said I think this the best move, I figure Halak wants a big raise and for other reasons we cant afford that. I would have loved to get Backes or Burglund in the deal but I guess thats the vaule out there. As Bob McKenzie said Philadelphia, Tampa Bay and San Jose were in the mix, hence meaning PG took the best deal out there, we might have gotten back better players from Philly or TB but you don’t trade in conference. I also would have loved to get back NHL players back but if you follow hockey and other teams you would know that Eller is something special. He is NHL ready and would be perfect as a 3rd line C or maybe at LW on the top 2 lines. I think this also gives us more cap wise wish must be wised wisely. If Halak wasn’t 5’11 It would be Price we were trading, for some reason big goalies are wanted more.

  642. TripleX says:

     

    TSNBobMcKenzie 

    Only surprise to me was ZERO contact between MTL/Halak once season ended. Only contact was J Martin phoning Halak today to say, U r traded..

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  643. Storm Man says:

    Bye Bye……. Les Bleus the tacobell dog and his mates schooled you enjoy your wine tonight. 

  644. aemarchand11 says:

    People complained about picking up Dominic Moore as well. Thats what hab fans seem to do. Bash a trade to no end of they dont get the player that was obviously unnatainable.

    Eller and Shultz could both be top 6 forwards. We never go after the big wingers, we always get the Paciorettys or Pouliots. And when we do draft big, we get Tenderness. This guy is 6’3, 210 pounds i believe i saw. I smell a Lucic like player, we have to start scaring the oppositions defenceman…

    -Halak it alot because the Price is right-

  645. Mattyleg says:

    There HAS to be more to this trade…

    Seriously. I’m waiting.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  646. Habs4ever Fan says:

    Can’t wait to see the AHL goalie that wins the number 1 position in net over Carey Price next year.

    Have a beer Carey and relax.

    When will the Habs realize they made a big error the day they drafted and bet the farm on Carey Can’t handle the pressure Price

  647. andrewberkshire says:

    The source McKenzie is using is Allan Walsh, who we all know is trustworthy an honest 100% of the time.

  648. habs03 says:

    Guys don’t look now but were gettin some needed size, specially down the middle, and our farm system is filling up again, we were rated in the top 3 3-4 years ago and now I think we’re in the middle of the pack.

  649. RJ says:

    Can’t agree more!

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

     

  650. habsfan_61 says:

     i didnt think we would get that big a return for either of the goalies because of all the ufa/rfa goalies and those that were rumoured to be moved. but to get 2 ,who the f are they players back is redonkulous. i hope  at least one turns out otherwise pg got fleeced.rather disappointed now lets wait and see in the future if this turns out to be as bad as it seems.

  651. krob1000 says:

    Halak’s demands were probably high, Our cupboards are bare in the forward area…now we have a legit prospect that isn;t three years away.  These guys will also hopefully be cheap cap players while we still have our large contracts on the boks.  Eller is a good prospect and I still remember everyone thinking very highly of him at the draft when they showed that St Louis insider look at the draft (it’s actually on all the time on NHL Network).  The Schultz kid may pan out to be a top 6/9 winger who can drop em./…if not he looks like he may at least be a serviceable tough guy a la Moen.  Eller appears to fit the mold of what we appear to seek in that he is responsible in both ends and is versatile.  The Salary Cap is so important and people forget that and we are still handcuffed by the Hammer deal, the Gomez deal ….the extar million per player that Gio, Spacek and Cammi got.  They make a difference and will continue to do so…buit hey have all turned out to be pretty damn good players…but those contracts…but hthey’re good….blah, blah, blah…both are true now we deal with the reality and the aftermath both good and bad.

    I still actually like this trade though……I think we would have gotten more for Price but then it would have cost us out the back door as Halak’s higher salary would have cost us more down the road.  We are not done yet and this Eller jkid will be playing this season in the NHL.  Chips fizzled, Maxwell is on his last legs and we seem to be having a difficult time finding that other centerman from within.  Schultz looks interesting too.  I am not disappointed with this deal because if you had told me last year before Halak’s run that we weould get a prospect of Eller’s quality and another thrown in I wouldn’t have believed you….the fact that Halak is now more of a hit against the cap makes it even more appealing. 

    All in all ….. not too shabby…of course time will tell but I am not in the pissed off camp……

     

  652. RJ says:

    We gave away our best goalie for next to nothing.

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  653. Shiloh says:

    Ridiculous.

  654. ACF says:

    Maybe PG can send Gomez back to NJ for Marty…

  655. Storm Man says:

    Did you order your Blues jersey with number 41 on the back of it yet?

  656. SeriousFan09 says:

    The Twitter addict agent, and you can’t spell Twitter without twit.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  657. andrewberkshire says:

    It sucks, but that’s life.

  658. bwoar says:

    Because if you never heard of them, no one else has, right?

    Knowledgable people aren’t going crazy over this, it’s a solid trade.

  659. TripleX says:

     

    WRONG!  PG confirmed in his press conference that NO talks occurred between Halak’s agent and the Habs since the end of the season.  PG NEVER considered not trading Halak and keeping Price just like his old boss BG.  Hard to say Halak was asking for too much when the Habs never even asked.

     

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  660. TripleX says:

    • PG just confirmed it as FACT in his press conference dumbass.  Go back to your newspapers and tube radio dude as the new millennium has obviously passed you two by.
    • “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”
  661. krob1000 says:

    hmmm…..so his agent must not have given the habs a ball park during the season or during the playoffs….his agent just did nothing because the habs didn;t make an offer?…something tells me a guy as public and outgoing as Walsh had contact with the habs all season, during the playoffs,etc….if it wasn’t worth making an offer formally why would we?

  662. Max_a_million says:

    Exactly great return especially given the market.

  663. SeriousFan09 says:

    I do use Twitter, but I also know better than to believe everything said in ANY media source.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  664. Chuck says:

    You don’t have to ask if the agent says, “We’re going demand everything that we can.”

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  665. Shiloh says:

    You are 100% correct.

  666. TripleX says:

    It is called disseminating the credible twitter accounts from the bs artists.  Bob McKenzie rarely makes unsubstantiated statements.

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  667. SeriousFan09 says:

    Mckenzie’s a pretty good guy but again, I’m not going to believe everything I read.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  668. andrewberkshire says:

    As per James Mirtle: Netminders with nine playoff wins in one season past 20 years: Casey, Moog, Esche, Boucher, Irbe, Potvin, Hedberg, Turek.

  669. Mattyleg says:

    Aw crud.

    I’m sorry to see Halak go. I understand the need to free up space, and I know that Jaro’s agent is a dyk, but I’m sorry to see him leave.

    On another note, there HAS to be something more to this trade than just this…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  670. kempie says:

    This site is gonna crash & burn tonight! Talk about not enough value. I dunno, I’m still shocked for now. I may grow to like this but, at first glance, yikes.

  671. zozotheclown says:

    This puts alot of pressure on young players too, Price HAS to live up to potential this season, something I think he can do. Eller also has to put up great numbers in the AHL, which is a coin toss at this point. If both can take care of business then this will worj out to be a great trade for us, if one or god forbid both flop we’ll be in serious trouble.

    Eller might make the Habs, but he might also be benefited by more time in the AHL, we’ll see what he brings in pre-season.

    In any case it should make next year more exciting.

  672. habs001 says:

    i think the habs management realized that this team is really a 500 team and it was not going to get better next year…if they dont resign plecks…25 goals gone…metro will not be resigned 17 goals gone…ak46 and sk74 if traded will only fetch future prospects… 20 plus goals gone…..no free agents to sign…no scoring in hamilton…this team possible could be one of the worst scoring teams in nhl history…i think we are rebuilding again…

  673. Les Habitants says:

    WHAT THE F@#$!!!!!

    I’m a Price fan and this pisses me off!!!!!

    So, let me get this strait, we have the hottest goalie in the league since the Olympics and we trade him for two no-names I never heard of, with a grand total of 7 NHL games worth of experience between them.

    Brraavvooo Gautier Brrraaavvvooo!!!!

     

     

    The last time the leafs won the cup it was still just a bowl!!

  674. HabsfaninMA says:

    Dropping to his knees?? Really? You mean, like what Price does in EVERY game, tired or not??

    Um, maybe Halak was tired because he had to stop like 500 pucks in the playoffs!!

  675. joeybarrie says:

    Is it, tell me about it…. How many players are allowed on the field??? Is it one on one? Do they count assists as well as goals? Are there any players on the bench? how often to they change? How many players play in one partucular game??? Do all goalies score??? How is Tim Thomas doing this season???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  676. HabsfaninMA says:

    Oh, right. I forgot that Price had that all-star appearance when the fans stuffed the ballot. Wasn’t Komisarek on that all-star team too??

  677. Omit says:

    Question!  Why is it that every time I see a comment coming from a name like habsr_ _ _ _ _ it’s always some dumb post.?

  678. G-Man says:

    Terrible move. You don’t trade your best goalie for prospect. Foolish for all those fans who want to win right now, like I’m sure Gill does. Price has shown his stuff. Win 1, lose 2.

    This is as terrible a trade as the Roy deal.

  679. andrewberkshire says:

    That’s not what you said though, is it? You’re moving the goalposts. You argue like a ***ing creationist. Completely erase all memory of everything you said before as soon as you write a new comment. You’re a fool.

  680. Dintrox says:

    Looks like Chris Mason will be available on July 1.

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  681. doug says:

    Ok, now we need a #1 goalie. Who are we going to sign?

  682. Habs4ever Fan says:

    We have Carey Price
    He is a number one goaltender for the Bulldogs

  683. andrewberkshire says:

    I love how the SAME people are saying the SAME crap as last season during this time. “No way this team makes the playoffs next season, Gainey sucks, the coach sucks, management sucks, the Molsons suck, everyone sucks BLAH BLAH BLAH”

    How about we let the season play out before you drama queens flood Canada with your tears?

  684. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Anyone else feel entirely out of sorts?  I’ve been walking downstairs, staring blankly around the room, coming back upstairs, repeating the same thing, then heading back on to here to try and make sense of it all.

    I don’t even have an opinion on the trade yet!

    I think what it is coming down to for me, at the moment, is not the hockey decision, but the personal one.  I really, really liked and respected Halak.  A lot. 

    Price, it has to be said, comes across as a bit of a spoiled, moody brat at times. 

    That’s not a judgement of who is a better goalie or anything.  Lord knows Roy was, and is, a complete a*****e, but the man could stop the puck.  It’s nice when your star is a likeable guy a la Jaro.

    Jeez, I feel like I just broke up with my girlfriend.  I need a beer….sorry about this cathartic post…

  685. ShangaDoo says:

    Wow…is there anybody that has seen these guys play? I have never heard of them before.

    Are they worth Halak? Do we benefit enough?

     

    In some crazy way, I was hoping we could keep both.  

    I am interested about San Jose being thrown in to the mix…who could we have gotten from them?

  686. HabFanSince72 says:

    Halak’s future as a Hab ended when his agent pressed return on his blackberry and sent that tweet out to the world.

  687. Anonymous says:

    It’s still better than the roy trade…..

  688. doug says:

    I’m in the US. You just think I’m in Canada because I just ran into your fat ass ;)

  689. Jon Hackett says:

    Hearing the audio makes me sad, every time someone introduces themself he says hi to them, he’s such a nice guy and it makes me sad that he’s gone.

  690. Ian Cobb says:

    We have more last year roster players to escort out of town yet, and we have younger players to fill the holes. I expect 5 new faces on our roster this fall.

  691. Max_a_million says:

    yeah we won this trade with someone we only had for one more year we get two cheap big prospects 

    We lost the roy trade by a long shot.

  692. Habs1st says:

    Well at least this will end the “who should we trade” debate… Unfortunately it started the “did we get enough in return” debate! Personally, I’m very surprised to see we didn’t get more. I had to re-read the TSN story, cause I expected to see a 1st round pick in there. I’m really surprised – not that Halak was traded but that we didn’t get more, i.e. such as a (proven) roster player plus a prospect and/or a pick. Wasn’t Philly offering Jeff Carter earlier in the season? Maybe that was for Price, and obviously before the playoffs. I still believe Price has what it takes to make become an elite NHL goaltender, I just hope it’s with Montreal. (I don’t want to see him struggle and then get traded only to win the Vezina for another team!) Good luck Jaro!

  693. JIMVINNY says:

    Maybe Schultz is our Byfuglien.  Eller has a lot of hype, lots of st louis fans are disapointed about losing him.   I think this ensures that Metro is gone, we’ll probably be looking at Gomez, Pleks, Eller, and Moore/Laps as our centers next year.

  694. habs001 says:

    we love the habs and it was great what they did in the playoffs but if you step back and are not a habs fan you have to admit that over 82 games this team is not a very good team…

  695. Price_31 says:

    Schultz came to my high school couple years ago and he’s huge. Not Chara huge but still prettyy big.

  696. Y says:

    WTF!?!?!

     

    What the FU*K!?!?!??!?!?

     

    WHAT THE FU*K!?!?!?!?!?!?!

     

    I am flabbergasted. I can’t even wrap my head around this SHYTE deal.

     

    Instead of moving forward this team takes 100 steps backwards.

     

     

  697. JIMVINNY says:

    No goalie in the league right now would garner a first round pick, especially with how many of them are available, much less an RFA goalie.

  698. Jeff says:

    Well, things are getting testy in Montreal.  

    First Boucher jumps ship to Florida.

    Now, Halak will be singing the rich blues with St. Louis next season,so far….

    Next, there will be a big raise for Pleks who certainly deserves it…..ummm… ahem….

    To top it all off, some other team will make a big $$$$ offer to Carey & things will be really dicy in Hab land.

    Could Dryden be talked into a return like Hasek in Russia??? 

    Enjoy your Summer, just maybe you can pick up something in the draft, we pick 65….ha! ha!

     

     

  699. doug says:

    Agree with sentiments about Halak and Price. Feel the same away.

  700. joeybarrie says:

    HOLY CRAP. DID THEY BURN DOWN THE BELL???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  701. JIMVINNY says:

    time will tell.  This could work out great for us, or really bad.

  702. TripleX says:

    The team backed into the playoffs in the last game with a tie against the Leafs dude.  One piece of bad luck and the team would have missed the playoffs as I predicted on July 1, 2009.

    As for BG and the Montreal management I will let history decide their fate.

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  703. Max_a_million says:

    I was hoping to see Eller as a top 6, maybe as a winger.  I am not convinced they sign Pleks, but this gives them a chance to.  No way they sign Halak and Pleks.

  704. HardHabits says:

    To be fair Andrews ass only looks fat because his head is so small.

  705. Ian Cobb says:

    They live their lives on the Dark Side Of The Moon Andrew. Negative people you really don’t want to meet. They are always looking at the floor. If only they would look at the Stars like we do my friend.

  706. Max_a_million says:

    Schultz is supposed to be a couple of years a way.  Eller could make it this year.  Both bigger players.

  707. Chuck says:

    And who was the starting goalie during that playoff run?

    _____________________________________

    Cheer for the crest on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back.

  708. Storm Man says:

    What for? Over a player that had one good year and a great playoff run and his agent was going to ask the moon. Did he win anything? was he an allstar?

  709. pmaraw says:

    interesting

  710. doug says:

    Andrew’s got a HUGE head. Oh, you mean physically, not figuratively ;)

  711. TripleX says:

    And no team would ever waste a first round pick on a goalie.  Oh, wait a minute.

     

     

    “Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”

  712. andrewberkshire says:

    Nope, my *** is just big.

  713. RJ says:

    Higgins, David Fischer, and Andrei Kostitsyn were “can’t miss” prospects too. This deal is crap. We need someone who is proven and can play NOW.

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  714. joeybarrie says:

    Isn’t it possible that it was bad luck that made them only come in 8th???  Didn’t they have the same number of points as the Stanley Cup Runner ups??? Maybe its the incredibly unlucky injuries that made sure this team didn’t excel in the regular season as they did against top teams in the playoffs???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  715. adam76 says:

    he was 26 – 12 and took us to the third round of the playoffs.  GFY.

  716. andrewberkshire says:

    We’ll see next season, but none of you have any clue what will happen at the draft or during UFA season, and after that what’ll happen during the season.

  717. topher5468 says:

    I guess i can keep my Price jersey, I thought I would have to stick it with my Theodore and Komisarek, which is in the back of the closet. Good Luck Jaro, you were a fine Canadien, You deserved better. 

    “It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”

  718. adam76 says:

    2 ahl players for a 25 year old starter – unless LARS gets 40 plus goals, we lost this trade.

  719. RJ says:

    Beautiful!

    “My face is my mask,” Gump Worsley

  720. andrewberkshire says:

    You mean “as you predicted WRONGLY”. You were wrong TripleX. In fact nearly everything you said all season last year was wrong.

  721. SeriousFan09 says:

    Only impact player drafted in 2005 after Carey Price was Anze Kopitar, many of the rest are forgettable names and haven’t delivered much of an impact across the NHL. Going to have to do better than complain we signed a top-ranked junior goaltender in 2005 when there wasn’t much on the board after Sid the Kid and Ryan.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  722. ThirtyThree says: