Audio: Prust wants to be part of exciting change with Habs

Brandon Prust

Brandon Prust, here in May with New York Rangers goaltender Henrik Lundqvist, is the newest Canadien.
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Brandon Prust, the gritty new Canadien who today signed a four-year, $10-million contract, says he’s eager not to let Travis Moen and Ryan White be all the muscle on the Habs.

Prust spoke with hockey media from Montreal and New York on a teleconference tonight. Here’s the audio of that call.

• Late signings: After the UFA dust had settled, the Canadiens announced they have re-signed Mike Blunden and welcomes goaltender Cédrick Desjardins back to the CH family.

515 Comments

  1. HabsFanMTL says:

    RDS is reporting that Jagr will not be coming to Montreal the habs have not made any offers for him

  2. RobertAlanFord says:

    Still plenty of time and money. Habs have fifteen million left with two major RFAs left to sign. I’m guessing by the time that happens there will be ten million left. Maybe a bit less but still enough for a couple big signings.

    Also, there are still roughly fourteen teams below the salary cap floor. Nashville, for example, is at the bottom and needs about thirteen million in contracts to hit it. This is where Gomez is actually worth something. His cap hit is still seven million but his actual take home is far less. Great deal for a smaller market team.

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    • fastfreddy says:

      I would sign Jagr, for only 1 year and 2mil. max. Anything more than that, then forget it!

      CH = Les Glorieux!!!

    • canadiens_habs says:

      wait seriously? subban n price are not gona sign for a combined 5 million. Price will get 5.5-6.5 million per season and then subban will get 4 per. so right ther is about 10 million so wer gona have about 5 million left. a lot less than 10

  3. hockeyscout101 says:

    The Habs are still not done. They will add another depth dman and spruce up their Hamilton team with a bit more toughness. Good first day for Bergevin but he is not done yet. Don’t be surprised if he adds another forward to the bottom 6 and another for the top 6. He has to figure out what to do about Kaberle, Bourque and Gomez. The ladder 2 are tradeable but Gomez is another story.

  4. AceMagnum says:

    HA! They kept Blunden!! I’M NOT STUPIFIED!!!!!!

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  5. BeachHabFan says:

    It’s quiet out there… Too quiet…

  6. newbrunswick troy says:

    i,ve been kind of excited by the signings and re-signings, but then just looked at what potential lines will be….. and i,m very scared that there will be not very much scoring punch unless ….
    1. pacs-dd-cole have another banner year???
    2. plecs bounces back in a big way???
    3. bourque turns out to be the player everybody thinks he is???
    4. our 3rd and 4th lines start scoring in droves????
    5. Gomez …oh my god ?????
    anyway our defence looks good, but i,m scared to say we don,t have a 30 plus goal scorer , and maybe only 2 or three at the most with 20 or better????

  7. habsnl says:

    Lol, can you imagine Semin in a Habs vs Bruins playoff matchup? Please don’t sign him MB. Yesterday we went in the right direction and toughened up. Let’s not take a step back today.

    • Bill J says:

      The image of Semin Slapping Marchand while receiving numerous punches to the head…. Well while funny, would not be funny if he was wearing the CH.

      Go Habs Go!

  8. HardHabits says:

    alfieturcotte 0 – everybody else ∞

  9. boing007 says:

    Jagr-Pleks-Gio
    Bourque-Eller-Semin
    Or any combination thereof.
    Now we’re talkin’ turkey. Gobble gobble.

    Richard R
    Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  10. Bill J says:

    Radulov’s KHL contract is estimated at 9.2 Million.

    Anyone thinking Semin will accept anything less then 7Million, is dreaming!

    If Semin doesn’t get it here, he will get 10 Million in the KHL.

    Go Habs Go!

  11. Ian Cobb says:

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  12. SnowManHabs85 says:

    Max Pac – DD – Cole
    Bourque – Pleky – Gio
    Moen – Eller – Prust
    ?/Geo – White – Armstrong

    Will Gomez be that LW for the 4th line or will he be moved to 2nd line? Or MB has more 1 way signing to give out?

    “Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock

  13. CF says:

    Third line: Bourque Eller Armstrong
    Fourth line: Moen White (who plays center) Prust

    Call ups: Blunden to fill in when necessary.

    More toughness than this team has had since 1986.
    Still need a winger to play with Pleks and Gio.

    • commandant says:

      White might be an AHL centre, but he’s not near fast enough to do it in the NHL IMO.

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      • Chris says:

        It appears to be White or Nokelainen.

        As for the lines above, I think we’re all being too optimistic.

        Bourque is going to be on the second line in all likelihood, Moen will (once again…blech!) be on the third line and White/Nokelainen/Prust/Blunden/Weber will make up the fourth line.

        And of course who knows what is going to be done with Gomez. He won’t be bought out…that window has already been closed (he had to be bought out before the free agency window, and I wouldn’t count on an amnesty buyout in the new CBA).

    • BeeGee says:

      That’s how I see it too. Some of those guys can move up in case of injury, which is good.

    • LizardKing1967 says:

      Jagr at 3.0 M$ for 1 year with team option on 2nd year.
      He still has go, and he would help the young guys enormously. He’s one of the best Europeans to ever lace em up and he can give us another 20 goals this year.

      Think about it:

      Cole-DD-Max
      Jagr-Pleks-Gio
      Bourque-Eller-Armst.
      Moen-White-Prust

      Noki – Blunden

      Markov-Emelin
      Subban-Gorges
      Kaberle-Cube

      Diaz

      Price
      Budaj

      Now that’s a team to work with and start building on.
      Lots of depth, and more toughness than we’ve had since the cup in 1993 with Todd Ewen and Odie!!

      Time to kick the Bruins’ a**es!!
      Drive for 25. 2012-2013. Max-Pac for Conn Smyth.

      I BELIEVE!

  14. Hobie Hansen says:

    I was really impressed that Jagr had a decent regular season and how much the character guys in Philly like Hartnall loved him there.

    Just heard Bob Mckenzie repeat on the team 990 during my drive that Jagr was totally done by the time the playoffs rolled around when the speed an intensity picked up.

    I’d much rather Bourque on the 2nd line than Jagr and we already know our 3rd and 4th lines are set.

    Where would Jagr take on a lesser role with the Canadiens, on the 3rd or 4th line…no.

    The man is totally finished. Out of gas, legs are shot…done.

    • shiram says:

      As HFS72 said, hed help make the games more interesting in a season where the Habs won’t challenge for the Cup.
      Also his 54 points last season would have been 4th on the Habs between Pleks and DD.
      So he’s no saviour, but could be entertaining/helpful for a season, where there is not much option for help on attack.
      At something like 3.5millions, he’d be a great upgrade over AK46.

      • LizardKing1967 says:

        My point exactly. He’s a good fill-in for a season. We ain’t winning it all this year (unless miraculously) so let him help in the leader role.

        Drive for 25. 2012-2013. Max-Pac for Conn Smyth.

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    • Bill J says:

      Do you really think during the time Jagr fills a stop gap and mentor role for the kids that the Habs will actually go deep into the playoffs ?

      Really ?

      Go Habs Go!

    • Marc10 says:

      No worries… Come the playoffs Gallagher can take his place.

      Of course that’s assuming that we make the show. That’s a huge ‘if’…:-)

  15. theflower says:

    The thing about Jimmy Jags is this, he is an incredible mentor. Giroux was saying how much Jags helped him and taught him and our guys could learn a thing or two from him and his character. He admittedly loves Montreal! His hands are still there and his help in the room could propel this team to a better place. I don’t see any reason not to get him here if the years are 1 or 2 he will be a great addition and he can still pop a few points!

  16. BeeGee says:

    via Darren Dreger
    Jagr will wait until big boys get signed before he decides. As many as 12 teams interested, incl Mtl. Jagr would love to play with Habs.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Much to many SALUTES for me my friend!
      He needs to go somewhere else so that I can continue to dislike him.!

      • Bill J says:

        Weak argument to dislike a player. Reminds me of Mike Richards speaking of P.K. Subban.

        That is the NHL now Ian, when a player does something good. They are allowed to celebrate. ;)

        Go Habs Go!

        • Ian Cobb says:

          Not just the salute my friend, he is just trying to pad his account before he goes back to Europe. I question his Loyalties!

          • BeeGee says:

            He’s one of the best players to ever play the game. I also dislike his personality, but if he’d love to play in MTL, I’d welcome him. Also, it looks like he’s matured considerably.

          • Chris says:

            Why is that such an issue if he earns the contract?

            Nicklas Lidstrom padded his account and then went back to Europe. He’s still the best player that has played the game for the past two decades.

            Jagr is right there in the top-5 players that played over the past two decades. Jagr made $3.3 M last season to get 54 points, including 19 goals. I think most hockey fans should be happy if their teams gets that kind of production for that friendly of a cap hit.

          • commandant says:

            Jagr has huge debt… he’s not trying to pad his accounts, he’s paying that back.

            And who cares if he’s padding his accounts? As long as he’s good enough to play.

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      • solomio says:

        Uh Ian…Jagr salutes when he scores therefore too many salutes = too many goals… in a Habs jersey. Think before you speak man!!

        “I figure Bergevin has 3 or 4 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  17. BeeGee says:

    Relax people, it’s july 2nd! The habs added depth and sand paper for the bottom lines. I don’t think anyone would disagree that was needed. We still need a 20+ goal scorer and a mean shut down D man – but MB still has 3 months to get that done.

    If Bouillon was meant to be a 7th dman, I’m happy. And Prust is overpaid, but not by that much.. 500k maybe? The cap just went up by 6MM… With Gomez & hopefully Kaberle off the books, we’re good cap wise.

    • Captain aHab says:

      No! MB totally did not satisfy Alfie….he should have gotten Semin at $2M per and Parise at $3M immediately and trade Weber for Dustin Brown and the Kings 1st rounder. I mean how hard can it be? Alfie can pull off this shiot any time on NHL 2012.

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  18. Drive4twenty5 says:

    I like these changes. Our bottom lines are usually just thrown together by young players who want to be top line players but never will be and crappy veterans. Nice to see we are actually getting players who know what there roll is. Get this team playing a actual system with players ready to play. MB is creating an identity for this team. Then once were ready then go sign a big player.

    “Well, he’s a thoroughbred, and maybe your wife doesn’t recognize that, but then again, I can’t bake bread all that well. We all have different skills.” …Bob Gainey “Classic”

  19. Hali_Hab says:

    Plus having some balls in the bottom six opens up ice for your top six .. That means more offensive production.

  20. Hali_Hab says:

    And for any one the is questioning Prusts value to the hockey club you must not have watched the playoffs this year.

    • HabsFanMTL says:

      i don’t question Prust’s Heart i question his Height……he isn’t a True Heavyweight……Lucic rolled right over him last year and Lucic will run right over Moen white and Armstrong as well…..we need a legit big man who can help out in that area ……too bad we let Parros get away

      • boing007 says:

        How about one of the Klitschko brothers?

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • Bill J says:

        If the Habs would have landed Parros, guaranteed some would complain about his cap hit here. Prust brings more then just toughness. Parros brings just his fists.

        Go Habs Go!

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Need to be able to play the game as well as playing with a little sand paper! Speed is still the biggest intimidator my friend.!

      • solomio says:

        Look, Lucic is a dam fine hockey player AND he can throw ‘em. You figure Parros is his equivalent? NOT. Lucic is one of a kind, a heavy weight goal scorer.Go ahead try and name his eqivalent.
        Parros…exactly the type of player the Habs don’t want.

        “I figure Bergevin has 3 or 4 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  21. Hali_Hab says:

    Alfie I am sooo glad your not the habs gm. Semin over jagar? Really? Let’s see sign one for 2 years max and get roughly 50 pts a season at a resonable cap hit. OR sign the other to a multi year deal which is going to be in the 7mil a season range ( if he gets what he wants) and not know if he is going to show up half the time. Not to mention you would put the team right back in another Gomes situation. Then there is the common sense aspect of it. Does semin really fit the bill, with the obvious direction MB is taking the hockey club . Semin is the polar opposite of the type of players and personnel that have been brought in. How would it make any sense to bring him in? It’s like trying to put a round peg in a square hole.

    • alfieturcotte says:

      Take a close look at what I wrote Einstein – “at this point in their careers”. Jagr is what 15 years older than Semin?

      That said, if Semin demands the same kind of money he has now, I would not take a chance on him. However, Jagr looked slow towards the end of the year and very slow in the playoffs.

      • Hali_Hab says:

        Jagar slowed down at the end of the year for sure. Semin on the other hand was slow all year. For being 15 years older than semin Jagar still managed to match him in point total last year. It’s less of a risk to sign Jagar as a stop gap measure than it is to take a risk on a player who has won nothing over his career and has proven nothing beside the fact that he is nothing but inconsistent.

        Einstein eh… ! i am flattered, any time you guys from down south want to come north of the border for some “education” on the game of hockey feel free to stop by HIO. There are a lot of “Einsteins” who would be glad to explain to you what an off side is.:)

        or do you guys have your PA announcers do that for you during the games still?

        • alfieturcotte says:

          Lol – I am a Montrealer living in NYC — ie hockey knowledge of a Montrealer (though can be brutally objective).

          Jagr would be a solid pickup at $2mm-$3MM for 1 year with his minutes regulated. The way he looked in the playoffs, don’t be surprised however to see a drop in points in 2013. That’s why, Semin (assuming money and term is right for Habs) would be the better pick up.

    • boing007 says:

      Maybe Semin would play better with the Habs then with the Caps? Possible. Imagine him and Galchenyuk in a few years time.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • Bill J says:

        Yeah, completely killing Gally’s drive to be the best he can be. No thanks!

        Go Habs Go!

        • boing007 says:

          Don’t tell me, you have a crystal ball and can foretell the future.
          Besides, at this point in time Gally is too busy working out in a gym somewhere to be influenced by the poisonous Semin.

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

          • Bill J says:

            I replied to you imagining Semin play with Gally in a few years… In fact you asked people to imagine that scenario…

            Now im using a crystal ball ? Nice!

            Go Habs Go!

    • boing007 says:

      Jagr plus Semin. Even more beautiful. Oh yeah!

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  22. mrhabby says:

    All MB did was use 5.5m in cap space from a cap of 70m (could change again re: CBA). He addressed some glaring holes that the habs seriously needed to add that being character, grit and toughness for a very small amount of money. Two of the players are clearly short term fixes until the prospects mature and the 3rd player will be here long term.
    I agree the offence needs to be jacked up and i for one see this coming via trades either this summer but more likely as the season starts and depending where the team sits there is always the trade deadline. i still think the team will look very different this time next year with some vets being moved out. MB is far from finished remaking this roster.

  23. BeachHabFan says:

    Still no mention of Armstrong from habs. Maybe he has to pass a physical?

    • HabsFanMTL says:

      perhaps they are waiting for the presser

    • Bill J says:

      Very good observation, I assume will be addressed in the MB press conference.

      Go Habs Go!

      • theflower says:

        Press Conference, oh my word, just sitting here thinking about life before MB, no answers, no press conferences, no one allowed to speak, i mean it so feels like the Montreal Canadiens again, just this open door and talking and media with actual news, it’s a dream a delight thanks MB for keeping us in the loop!!! so glad that nightmare past of ours in the dark is over!!!

        • Bill J says:

          No doubt! Quite refreshing as a fan to know the plan, makes it easier to accept we will not compete for the Cup immediately. Knowing in turn, the horizon promises Cup contention.

          Go Habs Go!

  24. boing007 says:

    If I could choose Semin or Jagr, I would plump for Semin. Regardless of any negatives about his prowess in the playoffs. Do it, MB.

    Richard R
    Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • shiram says:

      Key issue might be term and cap hit, I guess you could give Gomez’s cap hit to Semin but that sounds like another possible albatross to me.

    • nickster13 says:

      Semin has sweet hands. Ill take him, baggage and all.

      “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

    • db says:

      The most I would do for him is 2 years at 6mil each…. and only if Gomer or Kabby can be dumped. Ya don’t want to make RFA signings harder by being tight up against the cap. For the cap hit, locker room and everything else I would go with Jagr first though.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Semin, in his prime, played with Ovechkin, Green, Backstrom, and a Washington team stocked with good players and could not help the team to a conference final. He could be compared to a Hossa, or Gaborik, or Briere, who are productive players, but not MVP types.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • neumann103 says:

        I get your point about trying to characterize the talent tier in which Semin fits but Hossa is a complete player. He kills penalties for the love of god. Imagine Semin being asked to show Hossa level heart?

        The other thing is about cap. Semin will probably get overpaid but with the increase in cap if Hossa were on the market today he would presumably be a 6.5M cap hit and maybe worth it.

        “Et le but!”

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      After a couple disappointing seasons where everyone on the planet was questions Semin’s dedication and work ethic I was expecting him to sign for $4.5$ mill $5mill a season.

      For him and his agent to come out and say they want $7mill and there were no issues is kinda dumb.

      I’d never sign him.

      Also, Jagr was totally spent by the time the playoffs rolled around. I really can’t see why people would want him in Montreal?

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        The reason for wanting Jagr as far as I can tell is an admission that we aren’t a contender but might as well have an entertaining season.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • Bill J says:

        I think Jagr will feel rejevunated in MTL. He will feed off the fans, and be fed by Pleks for some beauty goals.

        1-2 year deal is worth it, he also will be a great mentor to the kids when they start getting promoted.

        Go Habs Go!

    • RGM says:

      I disagree. Semin is a guy that has benefitted from those around him. He’s the Mike Komisarek of forwards, you could say. With all of the good characters that Bergevin has brought on board since his arrival, why would he turn to a guy that has a reputation for being a floater?

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    • Bill J says:

      I thought the Habs showed yesterday they want character players who demonstrated team toughness.

      A slap happy floater does not fit this mold. IMO.

      Go Habs Go!

      • Chris says:

        Character and toughness ware wonderful things for entertaining fans while you lose 3-1 every night.

        The Habs need goal-scorers. Prust, Armstrong, Moen, Nokelainen, Bouillon…those guys will not help the offence in any way. I don’t think there were any moves out there (barring Semin or, perhaps, Jagr) that could appreciably help the offence, but I can definitely understand people asking what improvements are being made to a team that couldn’t score goals.

        • Bill J says:

          Since you replied to me killing Semin as a value to the Habs…

          You want Semin here at 7million per year for 6+ years ? I scoff at that idea. Gomez redux!

          I agree about Jagr, and have publicly stated this. Semin, not so much!

          Go Habs Go!

          • Chris says:

            No, I wouldn’t sign Semin for $7 M, but I also doubt he gets that much wherever he ends up unless he decides to go back to the KHL, and he hasn’t indicated that that is a viable threat in his case.

            He will get paid by somebody, and I have a sneaky suspicion he will do very well. People point out that his points were because of playing with Green, Backstrom and Ovechkin. Semin has always had to play his off-wing to play with Ovechkin and Backstrom. He used to be separated from them and played on his own wing and still did reasonably well.

            Semin is a 30-40 goal scorer when healthy in the NHL and plays a position where the Habs are weak, left wing. Put him on Plekanec’s line and I think they could be very good together. And while Semin is a bit weak defensively, Plekanec is good enough to cover up for that.

            I would take Semin over Jagr any day of the week. I don’t think it is happening, but it certainly wouldn’t be something I would dismiss out of hand.

            I’ve said it before, but Steve Yzerman was completely unwilling to dedicate himself to improving his defensive game for the first decade of his career. He and Bowman tussled over his role (with Yzerman losing his #1 centre role to Fedorov) and was on the verge of being traded a couple of times before he finally smartened up.

            In the right culture, Semin is not a hopeless cause. I think the Washington “run-and-gun” got into all those players’ heads, but at the end of the day he is still an extremely talented hockey player, perhaps the most talented player that is available.

        • Marc10 says:

          We’re one player away from solving that dilemma. Unfortunately that player is Bobby Ryan or Alexander Semin. The first requires we give up a lot, the second costs a lot.

          I’m not seeing it. There just wasn’t much out there.

          PA might have helped, but 4mil for the kid is a lot. Gui would have been an interesting pick up, but I suspect Ottawa is a better fit for him as he’s out of the limelight.

          So who’s left? Brendon Gallagher?

      • boing007 says:

        Surround Semin with a couple of tough guys and he might blossom.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  25. alfieturcotte says:

    I have to say that I am shocked at the warm responses to yesterday’s signings. Please folks, take the blinders off and take a close look at who we picked up: a below average defenseman (another 6th or 7th defenseman), $10MM for Prust – at best a 10 minute a game 4th liner (is he really any better than Darche???), and an injury prone 4th liner.

    What our green GM has accomplished is to stockpile marginal, non offensive players to go along with the rest of those already on the team. Recall that last year, we had only 1 line that produced. I can see visiting teams shaking in their boots when they face off against our 2nd/3rd/4th lines. We need guys who can compliment Pleks and Eller, not more hands of stone to drag those players down further. It appears that MB did not quite have a seat at the table when Tallon was building the Hawks to an offensive power.

    Weak moves, no improvement at all to the team.

    • Captain aHab says:

      There’s still time before the season starts Alfie….can’t fix all the numerous problems at once.

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    • boing007 says:

      Prust – at best a 10 minute a game 4th liner (is he really any better than Darche???)

      Yes, I think he is. Younger too. Did you watch the playoffs?

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • alfieturcotte says:

        I did as well as numerous Rangers games as I live in NYC. If he were that good, the Rangers (after all, he is a Torterella kind of player) would have offered same money as Habs. The fact that they did not is a telling sign.

        I think Darche (Blunden etc) would have been just as effective at 1/4 of the price.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          They offered 6million over 3 years to Prust.

          • Lafleurguy says:

            Good insider info, neighbor. Ironically, Prust came to the Rangers in a trade with the Flames that involved Christopher Higgins. With Gaborik, and Brad Richards on board, the Blueshirts are probably up against the cap, so it’s nice to be able to poach Prust for no assets as tit-for-tat for Ryan McDonagh.

            “May you live in interesting times.”

          • Chris says:

            Lafleurguy: The Rangers are actually not too bad on the salary cap. They have most of their team signed and still have ~$8 M in cap space.

            They picked up Asham for $1 M cap hit, and I think he is a more effective player than Prust. They have a couple of young defenceman they want to promote, so they should be good there.

            They will be in some cap difficulties next year, by the looks of who they have to sign, so signing a plug like Prust for more than $2 M really made no sense for them.

    • shiram says:

      Sure if you think the Habs could challenge for the Cup this season, those are bad moves. I don’t think the aim is the Cup this season, so they sign 2 journeyman to stabilize the team. Armstrong is a very small gamble with good potential upside.
      I don’t like Bouillon, but for one year it’s no big deal.
      Prust is the big move, and there is overpayment and maybe a year too much, but he will bring a great presence and take some duties off Pleks.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      So when Prust plays all 82 games in consecutive seasons and averages 13:49 and 11:57 minutes per game, all the while on a Ranger team which finished much higher in the standings that Montreal, Can you please explain how that player then translates into 10minutes per game at best as a Hab.

      Yesterdays moves were not big cap chewing moves but tweaks to our bottom 6 forwards and an additional experienced body to the Blueline. What is wrong with a warm response to such moves which show a shift in mgmt’s approach to how this team plays on the ice.

      • alfieturcotte says:

        Sorry HabsinBurlington, MB did not address the immediate need of his team. Those “tweaks” just added to the problem, and ate some of our salary cap in order to address the needs.

        • mrhabby says:

          thats just not true. habs have been soft for years. did you enjoy seeing other players kicking sand in the habs faces. i for one applaud the tweaks that MB did. we get that the offence needs to be addressed..let wait and see.

    • deuce6 says:

      Geez, see the bigger picture here, will ya? Bergevin is putting his stamp on this team…He wants the team to have an identity..That is what he is accomplishing…Say what you like, but we are, today, more of a bitch to play against than we were yesterday…Nobody is gonna like coming into the Bell Centre, anymore..

      Prust was a bit of an over payment, I agree, but by how much? 500K? Please..I would rather give the guy the half mil to NOT end up in TOR/BOS…Armstrong’s contract is high risk, low reward..Soups is a Therrien guy that gives Michel an ally in the room to go along with Armstrong…

      This team lacked serious character and Bergevin and company addressed it…He shored up a bottom 6 forward group and added NHL depth/grit/character to a defense that was soft as marshmallows, last season, with merely risking 5.5M in cap space..

      If you can’t see the upside of these signings, you are one narrow minded person…There is a heck of a lot more to hockey than points…

      ——————

      Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

      • alfieturcotte says:

        No identity changed with Boullion and Armstrong, barely any with Prust. How is Prust any different than Moen, White, Blunden, Darche, etc. The answer – he isn’t, other than the $10MM they paid him.

        • deuce6 says:

          Do I really need to spell it out for you? Prust was tied with the most fighting majors last season, with 20, BUT he brings an excellent work ethic and is one of the best PKers in the league..The guy is a gamer..Darche is a bum and is a career AHLer, Moen is right on par, but Prust will drop the gloves A LOT more, White is a ball of fire, but does not play a regular shift, Blunden? (see Darche)..

          The money issue? So, I guess you would rather have him play for TOR/BOS just because you wanted to pay him 500K less a season? The guy is a character player and was the best on the market at what he does…We have nothing of his ilk coming through the pipe..That is the price you pay on July 1st..

          ——————

          Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

          • alfieturcotte says:

            That was a rhetorical question wisenheimer. Let’s see how 2013 shapes up, but let’s just say that I would not be too surprised to some day see a posting by you/other complaining by the Habs lack of offsense and players to “compliment Pleks and Eller”….

          • boing007 says:

            What’s it all about, Alfie?
            I’m with you, deuce6.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • adamkennelly says:

      thankfully our GM knows a lot more about NHL hockey than you Alfie..what he did was finally address a glaring hole in our team’s composition which has had a significant impact on our results as a team….finally our 4th line looks like a 4th line and not a bunch of not good enough to really be 2nd liners….Prust is a huge addition, Armstrong could easily prove to be a steal and even if he isn’t big deal at $1M…this will make everyone on the team better. and yes Prust is much much much better than Darche – ask anyone, even Darche.

      • Lafleurguy says:

        Spot on. We need a fourth line that’s on the plus side of plus/minus.

        “May you live in interesting times.”

      • alfieturcotte says:

        Actually, I wish our GM had consulted with me or any other fan who recognize what this team lacks (though thankfully not you, as you appear dim as to what the Habs need). The glaring hole you write about that our GM should have sought a solution for is the lack of offense outside of the first line combined with a 4th solid defenseman. Last I checked those “holes” remain unfilled.

        • Bill J says:

          Do you watch hockey, or just read the stats. You seem dim on the fact that in order for secondary scoring to happen for the Habs. They can’t be pushed around as much as they’ve been in recent years.

          Getting tough is the first step, and has been the BIGGEST weakness of the Habs.

          Go Habs Go!

        • deuce6 says:

          Yea, so maybe we should give Parise 26M this season to add “Offense”, even though we have offensive skill coming out the ying yang in the next few years..Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Kristo, Holland, Bournival, etc.. are on the cusp..Sit tight, FA is all season long and there are a number of stop gaps to when we can have our youth make the big club..Jagr anyone?

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          Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

        • Carta-Hab says:

          You realize yesterday was the first day of free agency right? I am sure there will be others moves made.

          Also, I wouldn’t expect much if you are expecting a solid top 6 forward. Outside of Parise, there are VERY few solid options on the open market. Factor in the fact that a lot of other teams will be looking to add exactly that makes it difficult to obtain one, expecially without overpaying immensely.

          As some others have stated, what MB has done has added a few pieces to what should be a pretty solid third and fourth line. How many times have people on this site complained about the lack of identity and/or character on the team’s bottom 6? Players being plugged in and out of these lines…so frustrating! I strongly believe that MB has made moves to address this. We now have size, sand, and some skill. If you look at what MB spent to obtain these players, I think they were reasonable deals all the way around. I especially like the Armstrong deal as if he isn’t able to turn it around, he is only here for a year anyways.

          Some people just like to focus on the negatives in any situation, and you appear to fit into that category. Turning the Habs into a Cup Contender will take more than a season, and if you think going all out to spend in a very shallow free agent pool to try and plug a hole just for the sake of doing it is a good idea, I have to say it a very good thing that MB isn’t consulting you for advise.

          I am of the mindset that the Habs will not drastically improve their standing from last year and you know what? I am ok with this. I recognize that it takes time to build a team into a recurring competitor, and I am satisified with watching the team develop into what will hopefully become a Stanley Cup champion. If the Habs show improvement and still don’t make the playoffs, so be it. We will add another high draft pick for what should be a solid 2013 draft, and with the kids coming up in the very near future (Tinordi should fit the bill as a big shutdown defender, etc)the team should really have a chance at making some noise within the next 2 -3 years. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

          Mike Milbury, Don Cherry, and PJ Stock….The three stooges of HNIC.

        • adamkennelly says:

          Alfie – I commented on “a” glaring hole – not the only hole…absolutely everyone in the hockey world knew the Habs were soft, pushovers and easy to play against…not anymore…watch the difference it makes on the skilled players when they don’t have to deal with getting punked every game. Its NHL hockey and its part of the game…also noteworthy – the hole much easier to plug than top 6 F…and I’m confident that our top 6 guys will produce at a higher rate now that this team has some toughness.

    • JUST ME says:

      Compare the players you let go and the players you acquired and there is definite improvement. Furthermore, the Bouillon and Armstrong deals are for one year so it means that the organization has a plan in mind that has to do with the youngters eventually graduating.

      The farm team is also rebuilding and it needs time to devellop the talents enough to really help and thrive in the big league. In the past years what did we get from Hamilton ,Blunden?Engqvist? Dumont? Palushaj? Wow! Bid deal !

      I understand that you may not understand what a long term plan is since we have not been used to it for such a long time but this is it !

      Name any big name that the Habs could have signed and tell me that it would have made all the difference in the world. Building is going brick by brick,floor by floor and foremost making sure that the base is stronger as we go. You may not see a major improvement but since it was done with a plan in mind , there is a real progress.

      I know, you want the cup NOW , burn the youngsters, at any price but this is the kind of thinking that got us where we are now.

  26. neutral says:

    I don’t know what everyone has against Semin. The guy can take 20 games off a year and still score 25-30 goals. other than a money issue. he wouldn’t hurt the Habs any. if I was MB and had the money I wouldn’t be scared to sign this guy. sure he takes nights off. he’d still be a top three scorer with us….

    • shiram says:

      Think he wants something around 7 millions for a good number or years so that’s one reason.
      The guy was making 6.7millions, I doubt he’s looking for a pay cut

    • BeachHabFan says:

      i mentioned below, my prob with a guy like semin is the leading by example aspect. in habs case, you’ve got eller, AG, collberg, etc either on the team or in hamilton and if you want them to be a certain type of player and have a winning team mindset, you need certain types of guys to follow. semin, ak46, and those types just don’t fit the bill. You are right about the production, tho!

      • boing007 says:

        Semin has more skills than the names you mentionned. It is possible that some of his skillset could rub off on those players rather than be a hindrance.
        It often happens that a change of scenery can bring out the best in a player. Ya never know. Soyez raisonnable.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • harpman says:

      Semin is a floater and has no fight in him….he would ruin the chemistry. The Habs would get more out of Jagr.

      • alfieturcotte says:

        I would take Semin over Jagr at this point in their careers. Jagr’s best days are behind him.

        • boing007 says:

          Semin on a line with Plekanec and ? Sounds good to me.
          Better still, sign Jagr and Semin. Ils lancent, ils comptent!

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  27. HabsFanMTL says:

    so what time today is MB’s presser?

  28. BeachHabFan says:

    Woke up this am feeling pretty good about the team.
    we ain’t winning the cup this year but MB really seems to have a plan in place and putting character veterans on the ice that will mentor and guide our decent pool of prospects is a lot better than trying to bring in a big dollar piece to try to solve your problems all at once.

    I can see how prust and armstrong (if healthy) will add grit (which helps everyone, especially young kids coming up from hammy or junior) and will also take a load off of plekky and let him get some offensive time for a change

    I think the cube is more to PK’s style than kaberle or campoli is, a lot of grit and hitting and edge, and any pressure we can take off PK to let him develop is for the best; doing it en Francais to boot is a nice bonus

    i don’t mind the idea of Jagr at all and would give him a two-year deal for the same reasons; if MB’s plan is to take a year or two to establish foundation for a perpetual contender, then how great woud it be for leblanc and pleks and AG and collberg to have jaromir fvkn jagr as a guy to watch and listen to and work out with?

    the focus on character and grit and team-first is what you need if you’re trying to mold the minds and games of a bunch of promising young kids. i’m tired of the AK46 and radulov types, and i like where MB is heading…

  29. Ian Cobb says:

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  30. HabinBurlington says:

    So Marc Crawford has accepted a coaching position in Zurich. So which fired NHL coach will replace Crow on the TSN panel, JM perhaps?

    • BeachHabFan says:

      they have to talk though, no?

      • Captain aHab says:

        and be somewhat interesting…strike 2.

        The one thing he’ll have going for him though is that he’ll be inclined to hate on the Habs…which is a positive there.

        —————-
        Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Perhaps he could use a telestrator to talk, you know like a notebook similar to what he hand behind the bench but it would show on the TV what he is doodling?

  31. db says:

    The difference next year will be character, experience and comradery… There is no way we blow leads or lose all 1 goal games like last season.. I would even sign ak46 for a year since there isn’t much else out there scoring wise..

    • Captain aHab says:

      The SS AK46 has departed and sunk. I’ll let someone else overpay for that rusted hull.

      —————-
      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  32. shiram says:

    I like Prust, I wanted him over Staubutz, and while he comes in alot more expensive than Staubitz, he is also a more complete player, hopefully taking some PK time off Pleks.
    Amrstrong seems like a low risk gamble, like it too.
    Can’t say I really like the Bouillon contract, hopefully it’s a sign that one of Weber/Diaz is moved.
    Blunder and Desjardins are good also, I recall a good number of people were quite annoyed when we dealt him for Ramo, but we got him back for free. Don’t think he’ll challenge for Budaj’s spot, but he’s a better option than what he had in goalie depth.
    I would not mind Jagr on a 1 year deal either… if he wants to sign under 4 millions.

  33. HabFab says:

    Cap Update

    – have 20 players under contract.
    -4 RFA’s left to sign
    -$15,352,024 left in Cap Space

    http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=2

    • Captain aHab says:

      I think we can safely add 7.3 to that figure. ;-O

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      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

      • HabFab says:

        I’m not so sure, both the NHLPA and a majority of the teams are against;
        – a team being able to hide a large salary in the minors aka Redden
        – an amnesty Cap buy out.
        – only the 10 richest teams can afford to absorb a large salary in the minors and there are only about a dozen salaries requiring an amnesty…all with the same 10 clubs. So the poorer teams will probably side with the players on these issues.

  34. HabinBurlington says:

    Not sure I understand the Ottawa moves yesterday, in particular the trading of Foligno. I understand they needed a Dman after losing Carkner and Kuba, but Foligno seemed to be an excellent fit in Ottawa and was an inhouse groomed rugged forward with character.

    Karlsson lost some protection with Carkner, Kuba, Konopka and Foligno (to a lesser extent) leaving the team.

  35. neutral says:

    so we’ve gotten tougher like every team is gonna be scared to come to town. I don’t think so. every team has their tough guys. I’m not against what mark done teams won’t be able to push us around any more just hope he’s not finished. we need scoring and if he doesn’t go out and get a good scorer we won’t be much better than last year. Colby will help a little but I don’t think it will be good enough to make the playoffs…. a good scoring L/W for Pleks and Gionta. than we’ll have a real good 4th line… Moen – White/Nokelainen – Prust

    • wjc says:

      Gomez will pop 15 or so and Gionta is good for over 30 goals. The Gomez line will be a threat, just have to figure out other winger. Hopefully a crasher with talent.

      Therien will be up for the challenge of getting Gomez back on track. He is already studying last years tapes and had many discussions with Gomez via Internet technology.

      wjc

  36. habstrinifan says:

    I have reconsidered…. Don’t want Jagr. Just 2 step backwards I think.

    • Captain aHab says:

      Why? We won’t be signing him for 10 years and I doubt MB will be willing to totally break the bank for him. Plus it allows the kids to stay and develop in Hamilton. Finally, as I said below, he might be a highly valued trade asset.

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      • HabFab says:

        From your comment below, NHL players cannot be sent to the ECHL as per the CBA.

        • Captain aHab says:

          I was just kidding there.

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          Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Frank spent hours pouring through the CBA and now you tell him you were just kidding? Better duck Cappy! :)

          • HabFab says:

            Actually spent too much time doing that. Was waking up in the middle of the night a couple years back and a hour or two reading the CBA would put me back to sleep.

      • habstrinifan says:

        I just feel he is looking for his money. And what will the price be? As long as over $1mill I would still think it would be too high and he wont get less than that. I just would prefer someone else who brings more to the team now.

      • wjc says:

        Forget Jagr….not happening…. just going to announce Price, Subban signings at the same time as other signings….one press conference.

        wjc

    • boing007 says:

      Sign Semin. Send Kaberle to D.C.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  37. Captain aHab says:

    The case for A Potential Overpayment For Jagr:

    Think what Gaustad brought at the trade deadline. Now think what a guy like Jagr could bring.

    I would have no issue with an overpayment if and only if Jagr doesn’t have a NMC or a highly restricted NTC.

    Then if the Habs are doing real well, he can help us in a playoff run and if the Habs are in trouble, we can ship him out and get a 1st and at least a top prospect for him at the trade deadline.

    Now what is overpayment in this case? He got 3.3 last year. Would 2 years at 3.5 be too much? What about 2 years at 4? Maybe Jagr doesn’t even want a second year to be able to choose where he plays each year.

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    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

    • BeeGee says:

      Looking at the signings so far I think it’s going to be north of 4. Just hoping we get him for 1 year though.

      • Captain aHab says:

        Yeah with the ceiling going up, you might very well be right.

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        Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

        • BeeGee says:

          Pretty crazy to think the cap was 39M in 05-06. At 70M now, that’s a 78% increase in just 7 seasons.

          To put things in perspective with salary equivalents:
          THEN/NOW
          0.5M > 0.9M
          1M > 1.8M
          3M > 5.4M
          4M > 7.2M
          5M > 8.9M
          6M > 10.8M

    • HabinBurlington says:

      The Jagr question is interesting to me, last off-season Jagr had said that it was the initial interest from Montreal which peaked his interest in re-joining the NHL after his absence. However, by the end of that off-season we were left at the alter with nothing to show for it. Now again the rumours have begun of Jagr to Montreal. If indeed it is true that MB has Jagr on his radar, I seem to think that the final negotiations between MB/Jagr and his agent (Petr Svoboda I believe?) would probably have more opportunity for success. PG never struck me as a salesman whom could sell the lustre of playing in Montreal but rather relied solely on contract and term. I believe if MB really wants Jagr, he may have the sales qualities to convince Jagr this could be a nice final destination for Jagr to play.

      • habsfan0 says:

        It’s interesting to note that Jagr’s agent is Petr Svoboda, whose unexpected first round selection by the Habs in 1984 caused quite a stir at the time.

        • Strummer says:

          Svoboda was also among the group of young troublemakers/party-boys (Chelios, Corson)
          with which the Habs eventually cleaned house.

          ______________________________________________________
          “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

    • wjc says:

      Yea…41 year old guy, past his prime.

      wjc

  38. HabsFanMTL says:

    i would have got Maxime Talbot and Jagr for a 2nd line of Talbot – pleks- Jagr……

  39. Newf_Habster says:

    No surprise…

    Alexander Radulov pour 4 ans avec le CSKA Moscou
    Alexander Radulov has signed for 4 years with CSKA Moscow.

    It means his drinking and curfew-breaking buddy AK46 will follow his selfish arse there.

    • Captain aHab says:

      Let him stew in the KHL. I hope he has a good life insurance.

      —————-
      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

      • boing007 says:

        Good life insurance won’t help if you fly around the country in a rustbucket all the time.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      David Poile ruffled many GM’s feathers when he brought Radulov back to the Preds after the trade deadline when it is the norm and the rule that players cannot be added to the roster. By not re-signing Radulov, seems to me that Poile may have used up his “get out of jail freecard” from the League offices.

      I understand the Radulov situation was unique with the timing of his original contract and the fact that the KHL/NHL were not working together in the least at that time in respecting contracts. This is what allowed the technicality in letting him back in NHL, but nonetheless, it was not a certainty he would be allowed back particularly after the trade deadline.

      If Suter leaves the Preds as an UFA, the Nashville cinderella story doesn’t look so good anymore.

  40. aj says:

    Good Morning to all. So, what’s in store for today? The free agent frenzy shopping will continue today and I’m looking forward that the Habs will get their RFA’s back. Possibly, today as well will bring another UFA signing – Jaromir Jagr probably?

  41. shootdapuck says:

    One positive result of signing Armstrong: he has historically been a Hab killer and of his scoring stats a good percentage was against the Habs.

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  42. RGM says:

    Brodeur re-signs in Jersey. 2 years, $9M per Renaud Lavoie.

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    • Captain aHab says:

      Safe to say Lou originally only wanted to give him 1 year?

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      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Congrats to Marty and Lou, Hall of Fame player, will be nice that he plays entire career with one team. Also congrats, because Burkie still doesn’t have a proven goalie he can march out to the media and fans here in T.O. and say “See what I signed!”

      • aj says:

        Burke, I believe, will be chasing that elusive dream of finding a goaltender for the Leafs. He’s probably in the hunt for Luongo. There’s no wonder why he traded Gustavsson to Winnipeg.

    • aj says:

      Brodeur did the right choice. I can’t see him wearing another jersey other than the #30 New Jersey Devils playing as goaltender.

    • Strummer says:

      Contracts for the over 35’s are non-refundable so I hope Lou had $9 million to piss away.

      ______________________________________________________
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  43. HockeyGuy123 says:

    Team toughness greatly improved. Even with Jagr in the fold we would be under the cap. This is great news. They key to being a tough team is team toughness. Guys like Armstrong, Prust, White, Bouillon, Gorges will feel like they can get into the face of a Bourque who does not bring it. This will increase the whole team toughness. Looking forward to the season and training camp. Now no young guys will be rushed which is also very good.
    Jagr -235 Plekanic – 195 armstrong -Tough
    Gionta Gomez -200 Cole -205
    Pacioritty -208 Desharnais Bourque -215
    Prust- Tough Eller -200 White -Tough
    Moen -215 tough Nokelanan

    Markov -200 Gorges -tough
    Emelin – 220 tough Kaberle 214
    Subban -210 tough Diaz
    Weber Bouillon – tough

    • Strummer says:

      The only thing I would quibble with is your characterization of Gorges as tough.

      ______________________________________________________
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  44. HabsFanMTL says:

    i don’t get it…..we got Staubitz 6’2 cause White 6’0 wasn’t big enuf to handle the big guys yet then we get a scrappy but not much of a fighter Armstrong 6’2…..and Prust 6’0 but can fight…….well Staubitz is bigger than Prust and can fight……can someone clarify why we go Prust who is only 6’0 tall? we wanted a true big heavyweight like Parros who can handle Lucic and anyone else in the league……Lucic will run right thru Prust as he did last year and he wil run thru armstrong moen white also

    • Habfan10912 says:

      You can’t compare the hockey skill of Staubitz with Prust. Prust is deserving and will get a lot more ice time then Staubitz would/will. I understand your point about an enforcer though. I’m going to wait until MB is finished with this picture before I give my final answer. Perhaps more is to come?
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      • Dulljerk says:

        I was wondering why Staubitz was deemed expendable and the signing of Prust explains it. I like Staubitz, but Prust if a much better player. I still think I would have signed Staubitz and let White go, though.

        No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.

    • caladin says:

      Actually I watched the Prust v Staubitz fights, pretty even. Prust is a much better hockey player, which means he can spend more time on the ice and so have a bigger impact on the game.

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      • aj says:

        I’m looking forward to a scrum for both Brandon Prust and Brad Staubitz this coming hockey season. These two have a history of fighting. Look at Hockey Fights:

        – Brandon Prust vs Brad Staubitz, Jan 23, 2005 – Knights vs 67’s
        – Brandon Prust vs Brad Staubitz, Jan 25, 2006 – Knights vs Barons
        – Brad Staubitz vs Brandon Prust, Mar 17, 2009 – Sharks vs Yotes
        – Brandon Prust vs Brad Staubitz, Jan 18, 2010 – Flames vs Sharks

    • wjc says:

      Hockey talent has to be considered…..people dwell on Lucic too much….he really is inside your heads.

      wjc

  45. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning! Not sure if we actually got better yesterday but we certainly got tougher to play against. No longer will we be the team that’s easy to play against. If Markov and Gionta stay healthy will go along way in determining the teams playoff chances.
    I’m thinking Frankie will compete with Diaz, Weber, St. Denis and Nash for ice time. Perhaps an indication that Kabrele’s days might be numbered here?
    I’m on the Jagr bandwagon for two reasons. First, we need to replace some scoring lost when Cammy was moved. Second, it will give Louie a full season in Hamilton to play top line minutes. If it’s a one year deal I’m all in.

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    • HabinBurlington says:

      Good Morning Jim! I liked the moves, all 3 signings are players who are team players with sandpaper. Nice tweak ™ by MB.

    • BeeGee says:

      Gawwd I hope Kaberle is on his way out!

      I do think the additions make us a better team globally, mainly for these reasons:
      1- The bottom line guys guys won’t be a liability anymore, so the coach can actually roll 4 lines;
      2- These guys can play the PK so our offensive guys can stay fresh;
      3- They will wear down opponents as the game goes on;
      4- The team as a whole will feel tougher I think.

      The result of all this should be more legs for us and less for opponents at the end of games and more swagger from the habs, which can’t be a bad thing in hockey.

  46. Captain aHab says:

    Here’s another reason why I like Prust: he doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who’ll suffer loafers….pretty sure if someone is mailing it in or acting stupid, a guy like Prust will give him an earful (if not a mouthful :-0). I think Therrien, who is a hard assed coach, will need guys like that in the dressing room.

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    • Habfan10912 says:

      Dead on Captain. I saw Prust play a lot last year and I can assure you he won’t take any nights off. His effort seemed to rub off on other Ranger players. He seemed to be a players player. Teammates spoke glowingly about him. A energy guy for sure. Hab fans will love him. The price and term, well that’s another story that some debate. I’m happy we got him.

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  47. daveho29 says:

    I don’t think the Habs are getting Jagr, Eklund says habs are most likely, which means he’s going somewhere else.

    • Captain aHab says:

      I’m also a proponent of the Reverse-Eklund Prognosis.

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  48. BeeGee says:

    Not unhappy with the signings so far… Of course term and dollars on Prust’s contracts don’t look too good but I understand this is MTL, the cap has hit 70M and GM’s are proving once again that they collectively loose all common sense come july 1st.

    Armstrong is a low risk gamble and could prove to be a good addition. Although I like the guy, I am not liking the Bouillon signing too much as I do not feel it adresses our current needs. I’m really hoping he’s seen as a #7. Kabouillon doesn’t have such a good ring to it…

    What I do like to see is the forward depth the habs will likely have this coming season. Blunden, Nokelainen / Leblanc, Geofrion, Palushaj can all play in the NHL in limited roles… Plus the kids will get plenty of ice time in Hamilton and that’s a good thing.

    I’ll reserve final judgement until I see the opening day roster, but at the moment I’m concerned with scoring depth (specifically the need for a 2nd line LW) and size/toughness on the back end. But this could be adressed quickly with UFA’s Jagr and Salvador (if term is reasonable) for example, or later on by trades… Also hoping we can get rid of Kaberle and of course Gomez…

    Guess we have to wait and see.

    Enjoy the summer guys!

    • Captain aHab says:

      I don’t know what the big deal is with Prust’s contract. Considering the increased cap ceiling and the fact the Habs really needed a guy like him, I’m OK with it. It is certainly not in the ridiculous Gomez and Kaberle ranges.

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      • BeeGee says:

        It’s not a big deal for me really, but it seems like a lot of money and term for a 4th line player. But you’re right that a 70M cap changes everything…

        • Captain aHab says:

          But we’ve been struggling finding 3rd or 4th line players with jam and isn’t he really good on the PK?

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          Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

    • wjc says:

      Why get rid of Kabrele and Gomez….you mean just put them to the curb with no return.

      Do you have no confidence in Therien to push these guys in the right direction. Kabrele is not tough enough in his own zone you say…easily corrected.

      Gomez has forgotten how to play hockey…why? What style was he asked to play that took away his creativity….did he have the right line-mates. Therien will be charged with bringing this asset back on board and do what he has always done…set up goals.

      Even Cole struggled in the early stages last year, until he found the right team mates…he could have been in the same spot Gomez is in.

      The money he makes is not your/my concern…everyone is getting rich.

      wjc

  49. Captain aHab says:

    So we officially can’t buy out Gomez anymore which is a good thing. Options left are trading him or sending him down to Hammy. Or of course keeping him and playing him :shudders:

    I guess we could send him to Europe too. Or the KHL.
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    • Cal says:

      What would happen to the cap situation if Gomez were to be, say, stuffed into a duffel bag and shipped by a slow boat to China that only docked in June 2013? ;)

      • Captain aHab says:

        Are you saying – hypothetically of course – that you have contacts who could arrange such a hypothetical thing? Hypothetically speaking?

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        • Clay says:

          I do ;)

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        • wjc says:

          Don’t forget to think as an individual, always agreeing with each other is not a good sign. Think outside the box. Maybe I am expecting to much from the “one dementional types”

          Repeat what the talking heads say on the radio, and t.v.

          wjc

    • BeeGee says:

      Management could also try and convince him to avoid the shame of riding buses in the AHL and go play in europe like Huet did a few years ago. Added bonus here is that he doesn’t take ice time away from the kids and the team in europe would pay a (small) part of his salary…

      • Captain aHab says:

        Could he be sent to the ECHL? ;-p

        Your choice Scotty, nice cushy retirement or the ECHL.

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      • wjc says:

        The good thing is you are as far away from management and any kind of influence as is possible…..so blab away.

        wjc

    • wjc says:

      Just wait and see how it works out. If he can’t cut it in training camp, that will be obvious as well as the solution.

      If Therien can get him to find his game again, then it is a win/win for all. If Therien is the no nonsense coach that everyone says he is, speaks his mind, there will be no mincing of words, no feelings spared.

      Therien’s first question in the interview was, “how would you handle the Gomez situation”….he explained in great detail how he would move Gomez forward and make him the player he once was and still is.

      This is what got him hired and failure is what might get him fired.
      wjc

  50. Captain aHab says:

    I’m all for yesterday’s signings but as far as Jagr is concerned, weren’t we also the leaders the last time this dance took place? I think he’s using the Habs to drive his asking price up but I’ll be happy if I’m wrong and we can get him for reasonable coin.

    Even if we overpaid a bit, I doubt the term would be long so he might be a tradeable asset to a team making a playoff push if he doesn’t get a NMC.
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  51. Habziefan09 says:

    I have to say that I am cautiously but pleasantly surprised on who we picked up. I have noticed that there are some who say that Halak is the goaltender who got away.. fewey that was 2 years ago.. Shutup and lets move on.

    Francis Bouillion– Awesome pick up. Nice to see the little beast back in the Habs lineup. With him on the back end with his former padewan learner Josh Gorges he will definitely help mentor the likes of P.K Subban, Alex (Yemmy)Emelin and our others coming up through the ranks.

    Brandon Prust– Damn did we just get mean or what? No longer will ANY team.. yes even the Flyers and those hated Bruins, come into our barn and push us around. Finally we will be able to be the Punishers instead of the Punishees. Hey Bruins.. wanna go? Oh and those who think he doesn’t deserve 4 yrs @ 10 m.. pfft.. once you see him lay out the bruins, it will be money well spent.

    Colby Armstrong–Due to his lack of luck in the injury department I am on the fence with this one. Yes it’s 1 yr @ 1m.. if he can stay healthy, he can really stick it to the Leafs who are still paying them.. how’s that for karma.. eh?

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  52. rhino514 says:

    Since I now follow hockey from a distance, having moved to another continent a few years ago, I am going to ask the knowledgable posters on this site to enlighten me on the recent signings which fail to make much sense to me:

    1) To me, The Montreal Canadiens need a TRUE top six left winger. They can´t leave Pleks hanging there. Is it now being widely assumed that Bourque fits this role? I just find it so difficult to believe going by what he did last year. I just don´t see him a good second line player. And from what I have seen so far, it doesn´t seem to me his attitude blends well with the team.
    Going by the modest (financially) singings so far, I am hoping that the objective if the team is still to find this winger, since there will still be a heck of a lot of room leftv under the cap assuming Gomez is gone. But the signing of Armstrong makes me wonder…

    2) I like Moen and I have nothing against Armstrong I just don´t see that they have the scoring ummpf to convert on and complement Eller, who will surely continue to show more and more offensive flair. The team is basically gambling that Armstrong will all of a sudden be healthy for long stretches and go back to the form he had a few years ago. I always frown upon moves predicated on players going back to a form they have not shown in recent seasons. Why would this happen? Even if LL or even AP lands a spot on the right wing, It doesn´t seem to me either Moen or Armstrong are true third line left wingers at this stage.

    3) I like the Bouillon signing. Three years ago, at least, Bouillon was a defenseman who just about never got beat one on one. I´m still not sure who would be better now in this situation on the entire team. He doesn´t put up points, but he is not small, and has always been a great plus minus guy. I think he will be a great short term stopgap. It´s also nice that he has a good relationship with Therrien and is for all intensive purposes a Quebecer.
    But it boggles my mind that someone like Bouillon can be signed for 1.5 million while someone like Prust gets signed to 2.5 mil a year. What exactly makes this guy so valuable? He had all of two points in twently games in the playoffs. Five goals during the regular season. He´s an agitator who sticks up for his team? O.k, so he is like Ryan White before the injury, is that it? Why are posters so high on this guy?

    I´m all for character and toughness, but at the end of the day you need at least 4 top six wingers you can count on going into the season and the team has three. The team is relying on not a great gamble in Bourque, and now has added another not great gamble in Armstrong on the third line. The frustrating thing is, the top six left winger is pretty much all the team needs in order to be very competitive, and they have the cap room to shore up this need…Anyway, I hope the posters on here can help me see things a bit more positively.

    • Cal says:

      1. With Jagr a real possibility for a season while the youngsters get a season in Hamilton (and it’s July 2nd), there’s no rush. Once Jagr decides, MB can go from there. Still lots of options left.
      2. Armstrong isn’t with the Habs to “revert to form.” He is there to add to the team’s toughness up front.
      3. Prust is Lapierre, but adds the dimension of being able to back up his yapping. Expensive? Overpriced? Yes and yes, but that’s what happens on UFA day. The Habs had a hole to fill and Prust’s agent knew that.
      A Prust, Nokia, Armstrong 4th line isn’t bad.

      We all have to be a little more patient around here and not expect MB to have the team ready to hit the ice so early in the off-season. Management and coaching has been addressed, MB has until October (maybe later if there is a strike or lockout) to make trades to improve the roster.

    • Clay says:

      And to add to what Cal wrote (and correct you on one point), Boullion is quite short for a hockey player (5 ft. 8 in), but built like a brick sh*thouse (over 200 pounds, which is huge for that height).

      I think he was great last time around, and I was sad to see him leave. Great pick-up in my opinion.

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    • BeeGee says:

      My feeling is that they will go and get a top 4 winger for the 2nd line. Bourque would then play along side Eller and one of Armstrong, Prust and Moen on the 3rd line.

      I agree with Cal here, this ain’t over.

      • rhino514 says:

        O.K it does seem to me this is just setting the table and as such i like moves. Prust and Armstrong as great as fourth liners and they have some upside. I think the team is gambling that one of the three (Prust, Moen, or Armstrong) could break out and play on the third line, which I could see happening, with Bourque on the other wing.
        I think gambling on two of them to play top nine, though, is a stretch and have to believe that they will still go after a top six over the course of the summer.
        Prust and Armstrong, like Moen, seem to be guys who can score an important goal in tight low scoring playoff games as well, when the deciding goal is usually a dirty goal.
        Didn´t know that Bouillon is a also a left side Dman, so not the ideal siatuation after all. But this also means he is more likely to pair with diaz, if he stays on the team, than with Kaberle. I think Diaz deserves a chance. He makes a great first pass and Bouillon is good enough defensively to cover for him.
        But what happens if Leblanc (more likely) or Paloosh or (less likely) are doing really well in the AHL after 40 games, you have to find a place for one of them on the top three lines. LL has far more scoring potential than any of those guys.
        That would mean that one of Armstrong, Prust, or Moen would have to go, since you would have three wingers competing for two spots on the fourth line. For contractual reasons it would most likely be Armstrong.
        Nokkia is the only natural centre on the fourth line, with perhaps White able to take his place.

        • BeeGee says:

          I would think White will center the 4th line. Also, injuries happen, so I don’t think the kids will be in the minors all year regardless. If they perform so well that they need to be brought up, they will be, and someone else will go for future assets.

  53. The Cat says:

    I like all the signings so far.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  54. habsgod says:

    i don’t believe a word eklund says or posts on his site 99% o.f it b.s. but he just said that jagr will most likely sign with our habs ,he said it montreal and then evrybody else the ball is in jagr’s court i’m up late here in regina,couldn’t sleep so i’m looking around at all the sites and seen that posted on his site! until tsn has it i’ll believe it !

    • Dave Jones says:

      Not sure about the rumour, but clearly Jagr is a reasonable target for the Habs. It’s a hockey mad city that would recognize and celebrate his talents. It’s also a team with an excellent goaltender and penalty kill. A healthy Markov and Jagr could combine to make the powerplay as excellent as it’s been in the past. And those three things together are enough in this age of parity to make the Habs a playoff contender. For two years, maybe 3-3.5 million, it’s great. It’s a stop-gap move. We play a couple seasons in the playoff hunt on the strength of special teams and goaltending, and use the time to get ready for Galchenyuk’s arrival and the development of a young defense corps. Make it happen.

      This doesn’t sound so bad for a season or two:

      Patches – DD – Cole
      Jagr – Pleks – Gio
      Moen – Eller – Bourque
      Armstrong – White – Prust

      (Adjust bottom 6 according to chemistry)


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