• AUDIO: Jacques Martin | Scott Gomez, funny stuff on the flu | Michael Cammalleri, on his illness | Jaroslav Spacek, on Martin’s mood and more | Lars Eller
Canadiens forward Michael Cammalleri joined his teammates on Brossard ice for the Habs practice today, having missed two games with Type A strep throat. Antibiotics seem to have knocked it out. Cammalleri seems bound for a return to the lineup tomorrow night at the Bell Centre against the New York Rangers.
The word might not be as good regarding Max Pacioretty, who took the day off practice; he was said to be ill.
Carey Price gets the start in goal, perhaps a mild surprise given Alex Auld’s strong showing against the Rangers earlier this week and his 4-0-2, .970 lifetime record against the Broadway Blueshirts.
Head coach Jacques Martin was in very lively spirits, having a few post-practice one-on-ones with his players, hollering more than a little throughout the session.
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Nice that you’re nice. So we disagree. No biggy.
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Sorry boss, come back when you have something smart to say, your dribble makes you look silly, you don’t understand, move on to another thread.
Thanks,
Shaker
I wonder whats the issue with workload, if its not related to being tired?? Mental fatigue?? I dont know. Didnt mean to put words in your mouth, but I associated the workload remark to that.
News flash to enable you to follow the scheme of things. Auld will play when it is time to rest Price. Period!
Sorry to come down on you, but, I never said anything about Price being tired. I’m sure in fact he has the most energy on the team, who knows? The only one or two that should be tired are Cammy and Patch from the flu bug. The stats just show that goalies who play 70+ games in the regular season are run out of the playoffs pretty early, if they get in at all. Our goalies workload should be about 20 for auld and 62 for price give or take a few. Check the stats, the only goalie to win a cup with 70+ regular season games in the last 30 years has been Brodeur. And if JM is going to use Auld more in the second half, why not spot him in games where he has prior success against that club. Give the guy the best possible situation to win I say.
Shaker
“All I said was there are ways to keep yourself healthier than most if you want to and they should.”
The key word there is, “yourself”. That was exactly my point!
Nobody has to guide these grown men. They have brains (at least I hope so) and should realise there’s a good chance during flu season they could catch something. It’s not rocket science.
As for Management cooking for the players. You do get that these guys are paid well, right!?
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
I never said I’m worried about Price getting tired. I think any young guy like price could probably play every game and not become tired. Tired is something, someone gets from working day in and day out for 8 hours a day to put bread on his/her families table for 30 years. Getting paid millions, plus all the perks of travelling first class, first class facilities, doctors etc etc should make any player in the NHL anything but tired. Now if JM says that Auld is going play more this second half, why not use him in games where he has a winning record vs the teams, case and point with Carey vs the sabres and cubs…….no matter what, Carey is going to get all of the remaining games vs these clubs this year based merely on his very good career record vs them. And to rebuttle your comments about goalies playing back to back get burnt out……how do you know that? That is merely your opinion based on no facts, just your assumption. I base my opinion on Auld’s stats, and Carey’s workload and the number one fact of them all, that a goalie playing in 70 or more regular season games usually, if the club even makes it to the dance, don’t really stick around to long at the dance (playoffs). And Auld playing in 3 out of the 5 is bad, because why?
Shaker
I basically see it as a non-issue… Auld has a better stat against the Rangers, Price overall has a better stats.
Both get to play the Rangers at least once within one week. Price’s workload has been discussed ad nauseam, and as of now there is no proof he is really tired or anything.
Be the ball.
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That’s what she said.
Gimme some skin.
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Auld has one good game against the Rangers, so what? I know about that career numbers, but those games are from 2008-09 and have next to no relevance to today. The two back-to-backs are the perfect opportunity for Auld to play.
If you’re worried about Price being tired then the biggest concern should be limiting him from back-to-back games, these are the type of situations that burn out goalies.
I just don’t understand why matching up Auld vs. the Rangers is more important than not protecting Price from back-to-back games. And playing Auld in 3 out of the next 5, isn’t an option, IMO.
I guess…..if that floats your boat. I hope it all works out! Bottom line is I want the 2 points and would love Carey to get the W and play great…..I just think Auld needs the starts and this one is a perfect fit for him.
Shaker
Yes he says that he will play more, and this is a perfect example to back that point up, I really think you guys are all just missing the point of a goalies workload and record vs certain teams, that’s all.
Shaker
Buy some groceries.
And I say in the nicest possible way, you just don’t understand!
Shaker
Get new glasses.
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And what if Auld wins or shuts out the rangers? I agree as well it’s all relative, but my main point is that Auld was great against New York, he needs more starts/action, so this is a perfect opportunity. If he wins great, then go with him again on Monday and give Price the sabres, but if he loses give Price both games, as he would have 4 days between starts. I’m not worried about Carey being tired at all for the year, I just think a 70+ game regular season workload doesn’t work for a long playoff run unless your Marty Brodeur.
Shaker
I say thank heavens we’re over that “win and you’re in” rotation of last season. I say thank heavens we have a number 1 and number 2 as opposed to the 2 number 1b’s we had last season. I say thank heavens JM is the coach and not some blogger. I’ve said enough.
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So then do you think JM will give Auld the nod vs Buffalo or Boston this year? Answer = NO, because of Price’s stats vs both of those teams. It is what it is my friend.
Cheers,
Shaker
Just a thought but if your sick or comming down with something like the flu and hoark a gubber on the ice does that not indanger the rest of the players……
Winning records versus one team, player, night, month, etc are all superstitious nonsense. A hockey game is a hockey game, and it makes no difference what shirts they wear.
I was suggesting they boost their systems. As you put it they get run down alot and should do more to keep healthy.
If you go outside with your har wet you have a better chance of catching pneumonia so i don’t understand your comment about fooling science.
Firstly good that you had only 1 cold last year.
Management should GUIDE their players to make smarter choices about what they ingest.
You know what it would be good if they cooked for them. Maybe you know some non GMO, non additve and organic food would boost their immune systems and they would be able to cope better. As you know they travel a lot and don’t have a regular schedule.
All I said was there are ways to keep yourself healthier than most if you want to and they should.
I won’t even waste your time about the BS flu shot.
What if the Rangers light up Auld on Saturday, then JM would be hesitant to play him in the back-to-back, when Price would need the rest? I hate these, which goalies should play when debates, because it’s like watching a dog chase its own tail. Generally which valid point has an equally valid counter point. I don’t disagree with any of your points, only that it’s a bit silly to blame JM for going with Price at this point.
He has not dropped the ball, they have not played yet. And Auld will get games in the back to backs we have coming up.
JM also said Auld would play more in this half of the season.
Perhaps he wants to see if Price will bounce back after the loss to Pittsburgh? If he comes out on fire, it’ll help with his confidence.
Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat.
That said, it’s a good way to get your own office.
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I just want the 2 points….and with Auld playing very solid vs the rangers last week, why not give him another shot at them this week? Then if he wins why not go again vs the flames, he will deserve it, then for sure go with Price vs the sabres on the backend of the back to back because he has a good record vs the sabres in his career. I don’t mind Auld playing, save for the Atlanta game, he’s done all he can and expect of the guy, especially in the limited amount of appearances he’s made. If he gets 15-17 starts this year, that will help him, Carey and ultimately the team make it to the dance!
Shaker
I would take Voracek in a heartbeat. He’s younger, more talented and easier on the budget than AK 46. Number 7 overall in the 2007 draft. And he’d be a great fit with Pleks!
Fan since ’71
Not really concerned about meeting them in the playoffs. What I am concerned about is the amount of games Price is playing and the lack of games Auld is getting. Also, Auld’s record vs the rangers is pretty flawless, so it really should’ve been a no brainer for our fearless leader, but he dropped the ball yet again, that’s all. I know Price is the number 1 and have no problem with that, but Auld needs more games, Price needs to chill after last performance, that’s it. Question…..do you think JM is going to give Auld the nod over Price in the remaining games vs the cubs this year? Answer, no! Because Price has a great career record vs the cubs. It’s cut and dry. Play the stats, because more often than not, you’re rewarded for it.
Shaker
Is it that big of a deal; if JM gives Auld a game in each of the two back-to-backs next week? Had JM given Auld the NYR and back-to-backs, that would be mean Auld getting 3 out of the next 5 games. Do we really want that?
Yes, I forgot logic and stats are not friends of your’s. At least it’s friday for ya boss, go have a couple of bevies than you might understand!
Cheers,
Shaker
If we meet them in the playoffs it will have been good for Price to have faced them before this season.
Price is rested and he is our #1.
I’m not sure where I heard “boom goes the dynamite” and had no idea there was a whole thing attached to it, but that clip was awesome. At least he can’t get any worse than that display……I hope!
Thanks for the laughs,
Shaker
And yet another horrible post on jimmy shaker’s part……Boom goes the stupid!
Go Habs Go!
for all the good JM does behind the bench they should just hang a picture of him on the glass.
We are just trying to make the play offs and it will be the same for a few years or we draft larger scoring players.
We bring in players that can score then make them into defensive players.
Just make the playoffs boys revenue you know.look at the Laffs making all kinds of money.
every year wait until next year
So this is who you are?
haven’t these guys heard of Cold FX this is your cold and flu defense!!!!!!!
It immunizes you to several strains from all over the world that vaccine designers predict will be prevalent in the coming flu season. It’s true that you wouldn’t necessarily be immune to a novel strain, but if the novel strain is similar to the ones in the vaccine than you would very well be immune to it.
So it’s a good idea for NHLers to get vaccinated, even if there is a chance that they’ll catch the flu anyway.
Remember when the Flames jumped ahead of the line for the H1N1 vaccine and it caused a controversy? THat doesn’t have anything to do with the bulk of my post… just made me think of it.
Semin, young point scorer. Markov, old D coming off two injuried-filled years. Spend $7.5m in UFA money wisely and get the Russian. If we need more space, then move AK now or at that draft. If we had moved OB and Laps in the off-season, we could have had space to sign Halak or had more flexibility about when PG chose to trade him.
Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?
And yet another horrible call on JM’s part……Boom goes the dynamite! A winning record vs the rangers, extra incentive vs his old team, beat them 2-1 just a week ago, needs more starts…….but he goes with Price. Smart decision! What a flippin JABRONI this coach is. Sorry Alex, I knew you weren’t expecting to play much, but this is really getting ridonculous now!
SHaker
this is only anecdotal, but my dept at work is 10 people. 5 got free shots at work. 5 didn’t. the 5 that DID (me included) all got sick and it was nasty.
Notwithstanding that the sample size is in adequate, it’s worrying.
If Cam-cam has strep throat, it’s not flu, but it is extremely painful.
Risk is not in JM’s system
This proves my point…about Habs defencive style ;
At home, with the last change advantage…the habs are 14wins- 6 loses way above .500 hockey
on the road, without lineup advantage the habs are 10 wins – 11 losses !!!!
this team needs to be able to change thier style of play on the road….maybe a little more risk???
there have been many junior players who had great stats in junior but did not make the nhl or became just average scorers…i am sure there have been a few juniors who did not score in junior but produce at above average rates in the nhl…but i would think the majority of the above average scorers in the nhl all had tremendous junior stats…that is why i am still concerned about maxpac and eller…they can certainly become contributing nhl players but top six i have a hard time with that…if you look at their stats prior to the nhl there is no indication that they will not be anything more than 40-50 point players and that is not bad but anything more than that it is unlikely…
Per the posted practice lines below, the anti-JM posters are due in…three…two…one
Not sure you can read that much into Montreal’s home/road spilt.
1) Most teams play better at home.
2) Montreal’s one cold streak occurred 100% on a long road trip. It’s a little bit of an egg/chicken debate there.
Yikes! Has the New World Order go to you? Maybe you watch too much CNN. The only thing our Government wants to give you is a needle. Scary.
that’s what I’m talking about……..clean tha slate
Get rid of Bob Gainey as consultant and hire Scotty Bowman whatever the price
On paper they look like very similar players… I haven’t seen much of Voracek play, but his stats are very similar to Andrea’s.. He is a little bigger then Andrea, but not much. It comes down to contract (what is Voracek signed for and for how long?) and how the coach’s feel he would “fit” in on one of the top two lines. If he has a “nose” for the front of the net and likes to park there on the power play… Then make the trade. I wish Andrea would play that way, he has the size and skill to be successful.
well said mark…the issue is more to the point that the top six players are put into a system that won,t llet them take chances to score more often….instead J.M prefers to play a low scoring game and hope we get a lucky bounce or lucky turn over!!!
Montreal’s 6th, 8th, and 9th leading scorers get less than 13 minutes a night, the issues isn’t that the bottom-6 isn’t scoring. The issue is that Montreal has top-6 players on 40 point-ish paces.
The Habs don’t have Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Franzen, etc. That’s why we can’t be competing for first place when our best player is injured.
thanks for explaining, I thought I was going senile,
I could have sworn somebody asked for the link? lol,
thanks
Are you questioning THE SYSTEM?
remember what happened to the last person who questioned THE SYSTEM! he was traded to anaheim for brett festerling.
- Gomez is holding down the suck button
It’s hard to say…
I don’t really exercise with the exception of backpacking, canoeing and winter camping. I don’t get flu shots. I don’t eat well, and tend to smoke way more cigarettes and green stuff than I should. I doubt riding on the metro getting coughed on all the time helps either.
And yet… I haven’t had a cold or flu in years.
With that said, I do drink about 2 liters of butterfly jasmine tea a day so perhaps that has something to do with it.
Who knows.
Yea, after i posted i wandered over rds and saw it and edited my post.
Thank you still.
Regehr has a sore left knee.
“I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”
MTL has NOT been doing that…even with the skilled guys in the lineup, they can’t score.
french article on RDS here is the link sir,
http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/313193.html
“Par ailleurs, Jacques Martin a eu une rencontre avec Andrei Kostitsyn.”"«Premièrement, c’était intéressant parce que c’est lui qui a demandé
cette rencontre et il était réceptif. Nous avons eu une bonne discussion
et en tant qu’entraîneur j’essaie de lui donner les outils nécessaires
pour atteindre ses objectifs», a dévoilé l’entraîneur.”
the flu shot only immunizes you to the strain from the previous year.
if there’s a new flu virus then the flu shot would be obsolete.
there’s always that small chance of catching that new and improved flu virus despite getting the shot.
- Gomez is holding down the suck button
Same here. Six months of hacking and coughing. I became known as “the carrier”. Never again!
Regher is hurt, lower body…
I still think he will get traded, but I think this injury is actually legit.
Spoke to a friend in CGY who said he will probably be the 1st one traded out of Calgary. And he’s the guy with the most value on the market, nice contract, still playing solid hockey, etc..
So I think the price will be really high.
Feaster will surely want to maximize the return on his most valuable trade asset….
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.