Another summer of arm rehab for Gionta; Ryder won’t return to Habs

For the second straight summer, Canadiens captain Brian Gionta will be rehabbing a surgically repaired torn biceps tendon. This summer it’s his left arm … last year it was his right.

“If I had known,” Gionta told The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs this week, reclining on a treatment table in the Canadiens’ Bell Sports Complex medical clinic in Brossard, “I’d have had both done at the same time.”

Both operations were performed by Paul Martineau, the Canadiens’ head orthopedic surgeon.

“(Martineau) was telling me this time, ‘Make sure everyone knows it’s your other arm. Make sure they know it wasn’t anything I repaired last year that went wrong,’ ” Gionta said, laughing again.

Gionta has set off into a rehabilitation program that he hopes will have him ready for the September start of Habs training camp.

Meanwhile, it looks like Michael Ryder will not be coming back to the Canadiens next season. Ryder’s agent, Thane Campbell, told the Journal de Montreal that Ryder is not part of GM Marc Bergevin’s plans moving forward and will not receive a contract offer from the team. Ryder, 33, will become an unrestricted free agent.

The Habs acquired Ryder from the Dallas Stars in February in exchange for Erik Cole and a third-round draft pick this year. In 27 regular-season games with the Canadiens, he posted 10-11-21 totals. In five playoff games he had one goal and one assist.

Another rehab summer for Gionta, by Dave Stubbs

Gionta still leading by example, by Dave Stubbs

Blackhawks complete comeback, by Cam Cole of Postmedia News

Kings facing higher degree of difficulty,

Rangers fire head coach Tortorella,

(Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)


  1. ooder says:

    Tretiak sign with CSKA to goaltend.
    his grandson is a goalie standing at 6″2. would be cool if he was drafted by the habs, just like his grandfather. especially since we have no goaltending depth

  2. Maritime Ron says:

    A lot of posters are rightfully suggesting we chase the Clarksons-Bickels-Clowes of the world but in reality, we have 2 chances of landing that – Slim and None, and Slim left the building with Elvis.

    We would have to severely overpay to compensate for taxes and a now somewhat recently shrinking CAN D vs the USD, (Players are paid in USD by CBA Rules regardless of where they play…) and the ultimate after tax disposable income highlighted by the link below vs. more friendly American tax places with their preferential deduction scheme (Interest paid on a Yacht as a 2nd ‘Residence’ is deductible..):

    From here, we should go super HARD after either UFA Dmen Rob Scuderi – overpay him with money or term, and the 2nd choice would be Robyn Regehr.

    Scuderi Credentials?
    2nd most playoff minutes played in Even Strength and Penalty Kill for LA behind only Doughty?
    Is that good enough for our Habs?
    He is 6’1″-216, but plays much bigger than that!

    If we could secure just 1 one those 2, that gives our Habs huge trade options moving forward, and depending upon the character of either one, a great Mentor for our young gun Dmen – especially with a Scuderi and the flash of his already 2 Cup Rings and counting… (Pitt-LA).

    If we could ever secure Scuderi, our D looks like this:
    Then pick the 5-6 pair from the following:
    Gorges-Diaz-Bouillon-Beaulieu-Tinordi-Pateryn…and some of the prospects moving forward…
    ALL aspects are now covered from PK, PP, and Shut Down.

    THEN, all of a sudden, we have perceived Top 4 trade options( or great prospect trade options) that could possibly secure us a coveted Big Man in the Top 6 with an org that may be looking for that – being either weak, or not deep on the back end, yet in a position with an abundant amount of big men up front.
    Go for it GMMB!

  3. 100HABS says:

    The last four teams are the same last four Stanley Cup winners. Winning a game 7 isn’t just a fluke.

  4. The Jackal says:

    Also, DD is not being exploited because he is small, but because he is not a strong skater. He has a lot of heart but he can’t make up for his shortcomings (no pun intended) due to his average speed. Small guys like Gally play tough and are fast. He won a lot of battles for us and scored goals in the crease area. He was able to use his strengths to be effect despite his size. Were he a half a foot bigger I doubt his game would change much.

    Then you have Gionta. He is a workhorse but I think his age has made him less effective. Even so he still scores 20+ goals and plays with heart. The difference is that DD is weak in his own end and is not fast. Even if he was big he’d still have his main weaknesses. Because of that, needs power forwards to make room for him and to cash in on his great passes. Having DD in any other role is a liability. Move him to the wing with big forwards to insulate him and he can be effective.

  5. The Jackal says:

    If the last 4 teams are the best teams, we have at least proven that we can hang with the B’s and the pens. Sure the pens beat us, but we were in every game and didn’t give it to them easily.

    These size posts are a bit off point. It’s not size in general that the Habs need, it is size on the back end. Upgrade the D and this team takes a big leap. We can better play our skill game knowing that the crease will be protected and taking away the best scoring chances. That being so, our forwards can take a few more chances and have a lessened workload on D.

    Adding a guy like Bickell would be great as well, but having big forwards is not going to help us protect our own net and lower the number of chances that we give up close to the net.

    • habs001 says:

      Can the Habs hang with these teams when it is playoff hockey and teams get away with pounding the opposition…

      • mrhabby says:

        yes to Boston.
        No way with Pitt
        Maybe with Hawks
        Pounded into submission by the Kings.

        • The Jackal says:

          So 1.5/4… not too bad for a rebuilding team.

          Hockey sine stercore tauri.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          We couldn’t hang with the Hawks. they have a heck of a lot more offense than the Sens who struggled to score goals all year except when they played the habs in the post season.

          Our D was horrid and Price wasn’t strong either.

          Not to mention how bad this team played coming into the playoffs. that isn’t a sign of a team ready to compete. We have a ways to go.

          I still don’t think we would have made the playoffs if it was a full season

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • The Jackal says:

            They didn’t play bad because they were not ready, they played well but were hit by injuries that depleted our depth. It happens.
            Healthy Habs go further than round 1.

            Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • The_Truth says:

      No way the Habs can hang with Pittsburgh. The Pens would slaughter the Habs in a 7 game series. A sweep most likely

  6. 100HABS says:

    So Ryder’s not coming back. Fine. But we have to replace his ~30 goals. Or, one could say, we have to replace Cole’s ~30 goals.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      yup. Big hole in the top 6. I think MB may have to go after a trade cause there isn’t much available Free agent wise

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Sportfan says:

      We basically need to add a 20 goal scorer! It better not be Dustin Penner -_-

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    • Luke says:

      Why is everyone so eager to trade/sign a player to replace Ryder?
      Wasn’t it the hue and cry of most of the population here to give more PP time and responsibility to Eller/Galchenyuk?

      • 100HABS says:

        Kinda agree. Are you saying that 3rd round draft pick we got with Ryder for Cole replaces him?

        Still need another veteran – Cole was a good leader by example.

      • The_Truth says:

        Without a guy like Ryder, the top 9 is very weak and can’t hang with the top teams. Detroit is coming and the Habs will play the Western conference next season.

        ?? -PLeks-Gionta
        Prust-Eller- Chucky

        Not terrible, but That top nine just isn’t going to get it done.

        • Kooch7800 says:

          You forgot bourque. I would rather see Patches and Bourque with DD or you could put him with Pleks and Gionta. Regardless our top 9 would still be way to small. As MB said every team needs balance and currently when you have 3 small guys in your top 6 that isn’t balanced.

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Kooch7800 says:

        We were not exactly lighting the lamp in the playoffs nor near the end of the season. I don’t think they would put Galchenyuk in the top 6 just yet. He is only 19 and MB believes in developing them porperly.

        I think he will see some time on the top lines next year but he will not be slotted in the top 6.

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  7. Kooch7800 says:

    Tim Bozon has been signed to his ELC

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  8. PeterD says:

    So I have been a fan that has insisted the Habs need to get BIGGER in a hurray if they are going to go anywhere…by BIGGER I think a lot of folks myself included seem to have 6′ 4″ 240+ lbs as the standard size to go after.
    This might be a nice size to go after for a few forwards and D-men…
    But last night as I watched the Wings – Hawks game it occurred to me that many of the very top players in the game today and unquestionably the best players year in and year out in the league are not super sized monsters.
    For sure there are a few 6′ 3-4″ players that excel, but I think there are far more in the 5’11” – 6’0″ range that excel.
    Consider the following players that are and have been arguably some of the best players in the league and on their teams.

    S. Stamkos – 6’0″ 190 lbs
    S. Crosby – 5’11” 200 lbs
    M. St. Louis – 5’8″ 180 lbs
    Pat Kane – 5’11” 181 lbs
    P. Datsyuk – 5’11” 198 lbs
    C. Giroux – 5’11” 172 lbs
    H. Zetterberg – 5’11” 197 lbs
    J. Tavares – 6’0″ 199 lbs
    B. Richards – 6’0″ 196 lbs
    T. Plekanec – 5’11” 196 lbs
    J. Eberle – 5’11” 184 lbs
    M. Richards – 5’11” 200 lbs
    T. Selane – 6’0″ 198 lbs
    M. Duchene – 5’11” 200 lbs

    So that above list is a pretty good group of players and I would take any of them on the Habs…well maybe not M. Richards…he’s an A–hole.
    But the others are pretty good players.
    My point here is that although size should be a consideration in the selection of players it must be secondary to skill and compete levels of the players under consideration.
    I would much rather the Habs brain trust select and sign players with heart and talent with speed and compete levels over giant bodys.
    Of coure if they find the occasional Corry Perry, Malkin, et al then that would be good…but as MB said…that type of player does not grow on trees.
    Just some thoughts on size to help add some perspective to the on-going “get bigger” debate.
    In the mean time…give me a future Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Giroux, Eberle, or Duchene…to add to the stable of prospects.

    • Whatever says:

      It’s not about individual players, it’s about the combination of 23 players that make up a team. Too big of a team, too slow. Too small of a team, too weak. We are too small.

      Larger players have more value on average. Ryan Clowe had ZERO goals and was highly sought after. Would Desharnais garner interest league wide with ZERO goals?

      A successful team should have skill and size.

    • Cal says:

      It’s much harder to succeed in today’s NHL without size and toughness on your side. Gallagher is one tough kid. He gets up off the ice A LOT.
      The Habs have 2 too many small guys. Boullion will be gone after next season along with Gio- they can’t re-sign him. I am hoping they are replaced with bigger versions. I am real tired of watching a team that can’t push back when the going gets nasty. This isn’t a game for pacifists, it’s a game for active fists.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      “Strength and Toughness” is more important than pure Size.
      Kaberle is 6′ 1″ – 212.
      Prust is: 6′ 2″ 195.

      Giroux plays ‘big’ and St.Louis plays ‘smart’ knowing where to be.

      Folks here can hate Brad Marchand all they wish, yet he had some interesting info once upon a time.
      Of course he plays ‘Big’ because he has a gang that has his back and will go to war to protect him…yet he also mentioned that he was TAUGHT by Coach Julien how to protect himself from much bigger guys.
      Is Coach Therrien doing the same with our little guys?

      I remember 1 game against The Leafs when Gallagher was almost decapitated by the coward Phaneuf.
      Luckily he was not, but seemed almost oblivious to the danger.
      He needs to learn and be taught, or else he won’t last long.

      • neumann103 says:

        As was discussed the other day, Prust is variously listed in different sources as anywhere between 5’11” to 6’2″. I think a variety of side by side comparisons show him to be 6′. It makes your point stronger. Brandon Prust is shorter and lighter than Tomas Kaberle.

        “Et le but!”

    • habs_54321 says:

      dustin brown 6″0 205lbs

    • JUST ME says:

      Problem is that you want the habs to get bigger in a hurry. That means at any price, go all in, forget about skills and talent . Later on you will come back to say that we overpaid and gave a too long deal.

      I think that this is not Bergevin`s way of doing things. He is a calm and thoughtfull guy who looks ahead and not only right now at any cost let`s go all in. Just do not expect too many big moves this season cause this still is a growing period for the team and once we know wich team we have between 28 th place overall and 2 nd in the conference then we will be able to move and act. From here to then the youngsters will be bigger and wiser.

    • zorro says:

      This Bickell fellow would look good on our team.
      BTW, looking real forward to the up coming draft, this is our best chance to select, size, strength and speed.

  9. Todays - Topic says:

    The proof is in the pudding. Teams with skilled and tough players are still in the running. Others are on the side line.

    • Habilis says:

      True story. It’s clear to anyone objective that the last four teams are in fact the four best teams in the NHL right now.

      We’ve still got plenty of work to do before we can hang with the big boys.

  10. Sportfan says:

    On TSN “NHL Stands by No Goal Call” translation NHL stands by terribly run league proving how dumb they really are.

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  11. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay so far less excitement this off season not holding a high draft choice. Perhaps the Oilers just know how to make their fans enjoy Canadian summers even better?

  12. HabinBurlington says:

    If anyone here is looking for work, there appears to be some job openings in Toronto at City Hall.

  13. commandant says:

    I’m with Ed… It really doesn’t matter what the LFP or anyone else publishes.

    Jacques and Nathan Beaulieu are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

    The prosecution will bring them to the court in an attempt to prove their allegations.

    Until then, its just allegations.

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

    • wjc says:

      The Beaulieu’s are innocent untill proven guilty and so is Mayor Ford of Toronto.

      If the video is real it should be seen and examined by the RCMP to prove it is real and not photo shopped. I believe in due process and it sounds like you do to.


    • bwoar says:

      Nevertheless, the fact that father and son are in court, over these circumstances, speaks volumes about the elder. There are enough facts to conclude that Jacques isn’t doing a good job setting the best example. Guilty or not, the scenario isn’t a good one.


    • Habilis says:

      Maybe I’m alone on this, but regardless of how it turns out, I like the kid even more for what he did.

      Getting your dad’s back in a bar fight? I have no problem with that.

  14. AH says:

    Just saw the poll question..can’t believe there are 53 people on this site who want the Gooins to win?????

  15. Fransaskois says:

    The Free Agents this year are terrible. When you’re potentially paying a guy like Bickell 3.5mil or Clarkson 5mil…… it’s a sign of rough times. I’d rather try and go for some reclamation projects like Caron, Beach or Paajarvi-Svenson. Guys with top-6 upside (and size) that could use a change of scenery.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Benoit Pouliot?

    • Whatever says:

      Start drafting bigger players instead of having to pay a premium in trade or contract.

      • commandant says:

        Start drafting bigger players?

        What do you think the Habs have been doing for a decade.

        Since 2003,

        – 0 Habs picks in the first round are under 6’0″
        – 2 Habs picks in the 2nd round are under 6’0″ (Kristo and Collberg at 5’11)
        – 2 Habs picks in the 3rd round are under 6’0″ (Weber and Bennett both at 5’11”)

        This myth that we don’t draft big, is just that a myth.

        We have 4 small players on the team.

        Gionta (UFA), Desharnais (undrafted UFA), Bouillion (UFA), Gallagher (late round pick).

        The idea that size is an issue in our drafting just isn’t true.

        Go Habs Go!
        Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

        • Whatever says:

          Depends on your idea of a big player. It’s not 1970. Six feet is no longer big. Is it even average? (Edit: It’s not. Average NHL player is over 6’1″ and 203 lbs)

          Big to me is a player that is, or projected to be, 6’2″ 215lbs or larger. Lucic is big, so is Clowe, Stewart, Bickell etc.

      • wjc says:

        Whatever: It comes down do you go for the best player available or go for size and ignore the best player available. This is a tough one to figure out.


        • Whatever says:

          If there is a slight difference in skill, go for the larger player. That player will always be a tradeable asset in the scenario that both don’t pan out. Size is always a premium.

  16. Mattyleg says:

    I’d like to apologise profoundly for my post below.

    It seems that some people may have taken my suggestion that Pierre McGuire would have been a good GM for Montreal (or any NHL team, for that matter) seriously.

    I apologise for the confusion and disturbance of spirit this may have caused; the concept seemed to me so blatantly laughable that I failed to appropriately apply the ‘Sarcasm’ font.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Luke says:

      How do we not know this apology isn’t sarcastic?


      Perhaps Burkie can do some internet digging for us to determine any sort of negligence

    • wjc says:

      Actually Gautier wasn’t that bad in my opinion. He got Eller, Montreal have a bunch of draft picks. His draft year with Timmons was very good. He traded for Bourque (size) and got a draft pick to boot. He traded age for youth (draft picks). He was part of the Tinordi,and Beaulieu aquistiions.

      Chicago a proven winner scooped him up, that has to mean something. Bergeron was able to keep most of the pieces of the puzzle together…He brought in Cole, who had a steller year.

      Not a bad job, but what do I know? When the ‘mob’ goes on a witch hunt they are never wrong, you can shout anyone down that might have a different opinion.


      • Sportfan says:

        He wouldn’t talk to the media, or acknowledge them and the fans. He gave us false information about Markov and his injury, he traded a player in the middle of a game because of a comment he made out of frustration. He hired and English coach then apologized for it almost immediately. He was not a good GM he reminds me of JP Richardi the old Jays GM who did the same thing almost.

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        • wjc says:

          Pollock didn’t talk to the media either. He took information from the medical doctors, thats all you can do.

          That middle of the game crap is over blown, just trying to avoid injury when the deal is done. Kabrele missed an entire half a season for the same reason.

          Cunningworth was brough up from Hamilton and became an assistant coach, he was given his chance, because he knew the team and the season could not be salvaged.

          If he fired Cunningworth the same time he fired Martin he would have vilified for not giving Cunningworth a chance, they needed time to find a new coach.


  17. ed says:

    A lot of people get into arguments when they are out in bars. Famous people, like the Beaulieus, are very often confronted and even challenged to fight because people are drunk, jealous and acting stupidly.

    Now, I’m giving the Beaulieu’s the benefit of the doubt – I know.

    But “what if” the Beaulieu’s were simply defending themselves??

    And “what if” the Sarnia Sting owner is simply a piece of trash who refuses to stand behind his coach?

    “What if” Coach Beaulieu was asked to resign because the owner was not ready to support him. and the coach refused , and was therefore fired?

    I have been in bars with some well known people who have been harassed, and it’s a big problem. Sometimes people have no choice but to defend themselves.

    Until I get all of the facts (if ever) I will trust that the Beaulieu`s are innocent until proven guilty.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Ed, your approach is the sensible one. Let’s wait and find out the real story here before drawing conclusions.

      • ed says:

        Strathroy Caradoc deputy chief Mark Campbell… “said the incident occurred after the Beaulieus and others at the party had attended a golf tournament in the area.

        The men who were assaulted weren’t seriously injured, but “there was some slight bruising, some shirts were ripped,” he said.“

        Sounds serious!! Their shirts were ripped!!

    • Mattyleg says:

      “What if” the owner knows the Beaulieus, and was not surprised something like this happened?

      “What if” there were another way of ‘defending yourself’ than throwing punches and starting a brawl?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      A couple of thoughts on this ed. While I agree that famous people will sometimes get harrassed by a barfly, and need to fend him off, this was at a private residence after a charity golf tournament, so by invite only, and not at a bar. Also, one of the persons involved is a former player that the elder Beaulieu once coached. So there could be a personal element involved, although either side could be the culprit/instigator.

      Having said that, for the police to take this long to investigate the matter, and not just decide to clear them of any wrongdoing, means that there is substance to this, there is evidence that an assault (unwanted application of force that is more than trifling or transitory) took place. Whether the police decide to recommend charges to Crown remains to be seen, but when it’s a consensual dustup, or the ‘victim’ clearly had it coming, and the beating isn’t out of proportion to what started it, usually there’s a conclusion that what occurred was a fight between willing participants, rather than an assault.

      Again, hoping that things turn out, that the glass is half full. Maybe Nathan gets a pass, was just defending his father who was already involved, maybe he does a lot of growing up as a result, but this doesn’t fit in well with Messrs. Bergevin and Therrien ethos of high character.

      EDIT: I was a little behind the news, but charges are already levied against the Beaulieus, they have a court date coming up, as Stu Cowan points out:

      Beaulieu and his son, Canadiens prospect Nathan Beaulieu, have both been charged with two counts of assault following an altercation at a house party in April that followed a charity golf tournament. A June 11 court date has been set.

    • Maritime Ron says:


      You bring up some great points.
      How times have changed!
      Back in the 1970s, no one had a camera phone-cell phones were only a Star Trek fantasy, no Internet existed, and the local police were the burly smart neighbourhood guys and not the 20 year old children we have today riding police cars.
      There were also ‘security contacts’ in each city for when the guys thought trouble was brewing or got into a ‘bad’ situation..

      There were bar room brawls back then, but it was ‘taken care of’ using common sense and some other ‘persuasive’ stuff.

      Today? Lots of folks looking to draw a rich athlete into a law suit by any means possible, or look to settle for some $$$ out of court settlement.
      So yea, I agree with you.
      Let’s see all the facts first. I wouldn’t bet against provocation by some nitwits looking for their 15 minutes of fame….

    • Cal says:

      Famous people should always have an exit strategy when at a bar. There’s no need to get into it with the drunks there.
      One thing for sure, alcohol and opinions don’t mix very well.

    • wjc says:

      It wasn’t in a bar, stuff happens. The truth will come out, but, you have to avoid these things if possible. Sometimes it is not possible. Sometimes you can not walk away. Remember coward of the county and Becky was violated and the Gatlin boys and how he locked the door and cleaned up. Well the coward of the county was arrested and the town turned on ‘the coward of the county’ until they heard all the facts and they lynched Gatlin boys. Becky was proud, but they divorced later….I could go on, but you get my drift.

      Get the facts, just the facts then decide, thats why they have trials.


  18. Lafleurguy says:

    I guess the HIO show didn’t make it to the post-season. I didn’t catch the final episode(s) of 24CH, did someone shoot J.R.? I found the short film on Clint Malarchuk riveting. Thanks again UCe (12:55 pm post).

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  19. Hobie Hansen says:

    Not sure if it was mentioned yet but Jacques Beaulieu was fired from the Sarnia Sting and the club said for “Non Hockey” related reasons.

    • Whatever says:

      Maybe it was for a “getting drunk and punching someone in the face at a party” related reason?

      • B says:

        Perhaps the Ciccarelli brothers who own the Sting don’t want to be associated with anyone who has a run in with the law (well, unless it’s a propensity for public nudity and getting convicted for indecent exposure like brother Dino 🙂 Actually, wasn’t Dino also arrested (and found guilty) for assault?

        –Go Habs Go!–

        • HabinBurlington says:

          He took his stick to Luke Richardson at a game in Maple Leaf Gardens, was convicted of assault, $1,000 fine, one night in the clink.

      • wjc says:

        You were there? You should have stepped in as peace maker.


  20. Un Canadien errant says:

    The Devils want to re-sign David Clarkson. There goes our other Golden Boy. They won’t qualify Matt D’Agostini however.

    Cam Janssen should be available though, so we got that going for us.

  21. Lafleurguy says:

    The bookies like Pitt, Windy City, City of Angels, Beantown in that order.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • D Mex says:

      Nice loop 😆

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

    • Mattyleg says:

      Man, we really missed a great opportunity to have him as our GM…

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • The_Truth says:

        I bet you McGuire would be a pretty good GM. He really knows all the players and has spoken in depth with every top hockey guy there is, over the years. He must have picked up a lot of wisdom. The guy knows his stuff and I’m sure would know the best guys to surround himself with.

        His personality is annoying, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t know hockey. At the least he couldn’t have done worse than Gainey/Gauthier. He was the runner-up candidate for the job and that speaks volumes.

        • Whatever says:

          And yet, no one hires him. Maybe some NHL team should take a gamble on the staff that gives Pierre the press notes on the players that McGuire claims to know.

          Molson and McGuire are friends. The runner up thing was a courtesy more than a probability.

        • The Juice says:



          “To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high!”

      • Maritime Ron says:

        He was never in the running
        It was all marketing…just like Brisebois

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Noticed that last night lol. It was between the 3rd and OT.

  22. Newf_Habster says:

    We should go after Nathan Horton who is UFA after this season. We know he has had some concussion issues, but he shoots and skates much better than Ryder. Consider it a MAJOR upgrade!!!

    The Habs tried to obtain him via trade several times in the past before the Bruins got him.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Nathan Horton is disqualified from ever wearing the Canadiens jersey.


      • Timo says:

        You never know… maybe for a change he will score in a game 7 OT for the Habs. But I agree, I don’t think Horton would do well with the current Habs roster. He is big and strong when surrounded by clowns like Chara, Lucic and Thornton… he won’t be nearly as tough playing for the habs skating next to Gionta or DD.

        • Mattyleg says:

          He certainly wasn’t tough on the Pants either.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          Timo, I’m with you on this one. If the Habs went out and signed a couple monsters to play on the 3rd and 4th lines, then I’d like to sign Horton.

          If the Habs signed Horton with their roster the way it is now, he’d be paraded out as the big, tough, power forward we’ve been missing for years and would be a marked man with no backup.

  23. Fransaskois says:

    Let me know if it’s been posted already but…. I really like this article by Arik Parnass. Well-written, and it’s got a good message. Not always a fan of EOTP but they really hit it off once in a while.

  24. Un Canadien errant says:

    Not sure if this has been posted, an ESPN “30 for 30” doc on Clint Malarchuk, and how he survived having his carotid artery cut by a skate blade during a game.

  25. The Dude says:

    Pittsburgh will win the Cup this year with the collection of Forwards they have,it’s just to Awesome!

  26. Rad says:

    I’m taking the Pens over Boston in 5 or 6 games, just too much firepower for Bruins to handle. Out West, I’m taking L.A. over Chicago in 6. Kings just wear you down. Well-balanced team between offense and defense.

    I’m going to go with the Kings over the Pens in a close series for the Cup. I think the Kings are deeper than the Pens on D, with Doughty, Voynov, Regehr, and Matt Greene back from injury. Up front, with Kopitar and Carter leading the charge, they have just enough scoring to win. Goaltending is the difference here. Johnny B. Quick stands tall for the Kings, and wins the Conn Smythe for his troubles.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Don’t forget my most favourite UFA the habs should pursue in Dman Rob Scuderi.
      He is now playing Top 2 minutes even strength and PK second only to Doughty.
      If we could ever score this guy via UFA, he would be a great mentor for all our young D…especially when he flashes his 2 Cup rings and counting.

      • The_Truth says:

        I agree, Scuderi would be an awesome addition.

        • Maritime Ron says:

          Changes our team right away, and some trade assets


          Then choose from the rest for you bottom pair or injury fill in:

          PP, PK , and shut down are well covered

  27. Un Canadien errant says:

    Regarding trade-deadline acquisitions, Marc Bergevin was pretty clear that he wasn’t looking for rentals, and that he wanted character players. The names bruited after the deadline were Mike Rupp, Kyle Clifford and Brian Bickell.

    I’d never heard of the latter before, but checked him out online at the time, and noticed he was UFA in July, so I crossed my fingers and hoped that the Marc Bergevin-Chicago connection would play in our favour, that he could do a Brandon Prust-style sales job on him.

    Now, with the solid post-season he’s having, and the fact that his name is commonly brought up by talking heads, our chances of landing him are becoming ever more remote. Our little secret is out. Back to the drawing board.

    They had a graphic on Hockey Night in Canada last night, and it showed that he played four seasons in the AHL. That’s patience, on both parts. The team for letting the big man learn the pro game, and the player for sticking to it, not giving up and getting frustrated. They’re both being rewarded now.

    At the pub last night (no sign of Frontenac, I looked and everything), we were discussing him, and the Canucks fans were comparing that treatment with Zack Kassian, how he’s being asked to play with the Sedins, play with skill and score, but to fight also, yo-yoed down to the fourth line, back on the powerplay, healthy scratch, down to the AHL for four games, back up because of injuries, on with Ryan Kesler and “now he gets it he scored two goals”, followed with “What’s wrong with Zack” a week later, ….

    • Lafleurguy says:

      I think Kassian-not-Matt was a former first round pick, and the Canucks gave up Cody Hodgson for him, who was a promising smurf.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Correct, but Hodgson is a 6′ centerman with a great deal of skill. Canucks coach and mgmt seemed to not like this kid off the bat and doubted his dedication. Evidently they felt he could have played through some injuries more early in career.

        Hodgson is very very talented, if his head is screwed on right, I believe that trade could look real good for Buffalo.

      • bwoar says:

        Coach and GM both screwed up the Hodgson dossier. Then AV gloated over how they increased his value by giving him special minutes. Top shelf there, boys!

        How Mike Gillis still has a job is beyond me. Only Sather’s security is more baffling. Garth Snow could do a better job.


    • HabinBurlington says:

      So it was also rumoured/reported that MB had kicked tires on Raffi Torres. Given he received yet another suspension, will this be a player deemed to have less value and could the Habs get him cheap this summer?

      While some of his suspensions have been worthy, seems to me that the league loves to use him as a poster boy.

      • D Mex says:

        Torres is well known to NHL disciplinarians.
        I understand the perception of what he could bring to the Habs lineup, just not convinced he could manage to stick around enough to deliver it on a sustained basis.

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

        • bwoar says:

          I’d pick him up in a heartbeat. Exactly the type of player missing from the lineup and won’t cost 4M a year as a UFA.


    • Luke says:

      Has Kassian fallen into the might be available for a 2nd rounder or 3rd rounder yet?
      Or the ‘Trade our underacheiver for your underacheiver (again)?’

      ‘Cuz I’d be OK with it.

  28. DorvalTony says:

    Even Sadu Koivu was a better captain than GeeNo.

    Jonathan Quick was drafted after Price LOL!

    “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
    William F. Buckley, Jr.

    • ZepFan2 says:

      What team did “Sadu” Koivu play for? Is he older or younger than Saku?

      Ka is a wheel.

      “On we sweep, with threshing oar.
      Our only goal will be the Stanley Cup!” – Danno

      For Your Life

      • Cal says:

        I never knew trolls took vacations. Unfortunately, it has returned from whatever hole it visited.

        “Only morons are right wing nut jobs”- Anon

    • Mattyleg says:

      Heya Tony!

      You must still be smarting from that monumental, megalithic, superchoke that your Leafs performed a few weeks back.

      Man, was that ever an embarrassment.

      They made history for the worst choke in the history of chokes! You’d think that the Laffs would have already broken all records for suckitude… and then they go and find another one and shatter the hell out of it!

      Have a great summer!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • The Jackal says:

        I forgot this guy even existed! He must have been hiding for a while after his laffs, like you said, choked big time.

        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • The_Truth says:

      For the record, so was Rask. What a mistake the Leafs made in letting him go. For Raycroft of all people.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Where was Tuka Rask drafted again? Who did the Leafs get for him?

      I can’t remember ….LOL

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  29. commandant says:

    Jacques Beaulieu fired from Sarnia. (Nathan’s father)

    Team says it is NOT related to on-ice performance, but will say no more on the advice of their lawyers.

    As we know the two Beaulieu’s are up on assault charges.

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

    • DorvalTony says:

      What about Rob Ford? More on TMZ tonight.

      “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
      William F. Buckley, Jr.

    • mark-ID says:

      Wow Beaulieu is also a finalist for Coach of the year in the OHL!

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Was there anything going on before the incident?

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        If they’re saying it’s not related to on-ice performance, the team is saying he’s not being terminated because of “anything going on before that”. The ‘no comment from legal’ says that it must relate to the ongoing investigation, and that they feel it’s conduct unbecoming, will tarnish the franchise, etc. So they feel the evidence is pretty damning. And this isn’t what I would have liked to hear, with Nathan involved.

        • D Mex says:

          News of the Beaulieu ‘ incident ‘ has me remembering that Nathan, a highly touted D-prospect, was still available when the Habs selected him in 2012.
          It was suggested by many, then and since then, that he should have gone earlier in that draft, I now wonder if temperament may have been a factor …

          ALWAYS Habs –
          D Mex

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Bingo. Draftees ‘fall’ all the time. Sometimes for good reason, sometimes not.


            What worried me at the start of this season was how Nathan showed up in poor physical condition at the start of camp. Red alert. WTF. His improvement during the season was due in part to him playing himself into shape. But how immature is that, that he coasts the summer before his first pro season.

            Maybe he gets a couple of months in the pen, and he uses that time to bulk up…

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Not good. Not at all.

  30. HabinBurlington says:

    So given MB went to past Habs in hiring MT and bringing back Ryder, would MB perhaps look at bringing AK back to the NHL after a year in the KHL?

  31. HabinBurlington says:

    New York Post with their candidates to replace Torts.

  32. habstrinifan says:

    Would love Stubbs and Boone and Hickey etc to start digging and reporting any tidbits on who’s where and who’s meeting whom etc on the HABS. Behind the scene draft prep stuff. This is just about mb’s biggest challenge so far.. this years draft/moves.

    • Timo says:

      The only tidbits Boone will be digging are the timbits from the local tim hortons.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      I’d like to know if PK and Max patched up their differences after the sorta on ice argument in the May 5th game against Ottawa, and here’s hoping there are no lingering issues….but one never knows with that kind of stuff and the personalities involved.

      • ont fan says:

        If you have played any kind of team sports, that kind of thing happens. It’s over with. You may not be great friends off the playing surface but on it you’re teammates.

        • Maritime Ron says:

          Agree that stuff happens and most of the time it goes away, but this is not just any kind of team sports and millions of dollars are at are egos, along with a PK RFA contract to come.
          If you’re going to win, everybody has to go to war together.
          Every time a certain team wins, the players always talk about chemistry and how all the guys had each other’s back.
          All I’d like to know is, has it all gone away and been forgotten?

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Agreed. These differences flare up in the heat of the action, especially when you’re losing a game or having a bad season. Time or a few wins cure all that.

  33. Maritime Ron says:

    I think we’re going to see a crazy off season for many reasons.

    Several teams have Cap issues, and both Compliance and Regular Buyouts may put some unexpected names on the market.

    With the New CBA, the rules changed:
    ” Teams can now retain a percentage of a contract’s remaining cap hit, salary and bonuses in trades. The following stipulations apply:

    ◦No more than 50 per cent of the salary/cap hit can be retained
    ◦Salary/cap hit cannot be retained on more than three contracts in one season.”

    The Draft:
    There could be a lot of movement as some teams have several 1st Round picks such as:

    Calgary:3 (6th-22nd- + 1 of last 4)
    Columbus: 3 ( 14th-19th + 1 of last 4)
    Buffalo:2 (8th-16th)
    Dallas:2 (10th + 1 of last 4)

    All of the following have no 1st Round pick:

    Official signings start late this year on July 5th, yet contrary to the previous CBA, players can actually start talking/negotiating with potential future teams on July1st.
    That was a good decision as that can eliminate ‘market freeze’ as we saw in the past caused by the Big Boys caused taking time to set the market.

    We’ll see what the Compensation Table will look like in a few weeks, but with teams in trouble, we could see Offer Sheets or the less hostile negotiated trade route.

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  35. Sportfan says:

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  36. frontenac1 says:

    1) Hope not. I am betting drinks against my buddy the Hawks fan. 2)Get Bigger and get Nastier. 3)No. 4)Go. 5) LA

  37. frontenac1 says:

    I am enjoying the playoffs but when is the Junior draft and Free Agency? Is it still July1 and the week before, or is it later this year? Can’t wait for Marc to get busy again and Hab moves.

  38. SmartDog says:

    1. Can the Hawks beat the Kings?
    2. What’s #1 and #2 on MB’s “todo” list?
    3. Could Price be traded?
    4. Does Armstrong stay or go?
    5. Pick a cup winner.


    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • commandant says:

      1) Yes, the Hawks didn’t finish #1 in the NHL by accident. Two good teams, should be a great series.

      2) Top 9 forward who causes havoc in front of the net & a crease clearing defenceman for the top 4 (likely older player, on a short term deal)

      3) Any player could be traded if the offer is right. I doubt MB is looking to move Price though.

      4) I’m gonna say go.

      5) Pittsburgh.

      Go Habs Go!
      Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

      • habstrinifan says:

        I like your #2 answer cause they are exactly what we would need if we are in contention. Your caveat is older and short term. MB may go this route and thus have to part with no big time assets (including picks) but he still wouldnt have inserted a bonafide ‘franchise’ type face. He may be thinking more ‘franchise face’ move.

        • commandant says:

          The franchise face that MB inserted is Alex Galchenyuk. MB will build around him.

          He also has franchise faces in Price and Subban.

          I believe MB when he says he wants to build the team through youth and the draft and with the number of young defencemen we have in the system, I think he finds a stopgap on D til guys like Tinordi/Beaulieu are ready.

          Go Habs Go!
          Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.

    • habstrinifan says:

      #1.. No.. I think easy series for Kings. But I have been wrong 100% in this years playoffs
      #2.. Add a team impacting forward.. not necessarily a ‘scorer’ but someone who can become the face of his team while the youth matures.
      #3..YES! Would have to be a monster deal though. And it would signal a definite leaning to an accelerated plan.
      #4..GO.. GO.. and GO! Team is looking for serious on ice upgrade…enough of the room chemistry stuff.
      #5.. Pittsburgh!

    • Luke says:

      1) “Can?” Yes. “Will?” no.
      2) #1 Draft Preperation. Be that, attempt to improve position, big ol’ scout sessions & strategy etc…
      #2a Prepare for UFA. Including an eye on RFAs that may not be qualified because of the cap reduction.
      #2b Mrs. MB asked him to open the pool… so there’s that.
      3) “Could?” Yes. “Will/Should?” No.
      4) Gone. Good Luck in you future endeavours, Armdog. (Or Army, or whatever)
      5) LA with the repeat.

      • habstrinifan says:

        I think your #2 answer is better than mine. You are right. This is a huge draft year for MB, as I have been posting… and that includes moves around the draft not only how he drafts.

    • Sportfan says:

      I think they can, but it’ll be a challenge especially if they can’t contain players like Kopitar and Brown and if Quick plays hot it could be over quickly (no pun intended) If the Hawks win its in 7

      2. Add in another Prust type player that is bigger like Bickell or someone else that can really make an impact and a Big D-man let the Tinordis and Bealieus develop a bit more. We need a D-man that can take Emelins spot for hitting and an added bonus of clearing the crease.

      3. No, unless he got half the Blackhawks, Penguins or Kings in that deal. He would need a really good deal and another goalie to take the number 1 position. He’s still to young in to get rid of it’ll bite us in the butt.

      4. I wanna say he’ll go but if the FA period doesn’t go our way I see him back in a Habs uni.

      5. Penguins

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    • Cal says:

      1. They will win in 6
      2. 1 BIG forward + 1 BIG DMan
      3. Sure, if anyone wants to pick up that nutty contract.
      4. Goes.
      5. Pitts over Chi in 6.

    • Chris says:

      1) Yes, and I think they will.

      2) Top-9 forward that can be a net presence and play physical hockey.

      3) Anybody can be traded. Price won’t be, as there really isn’t much of a market for him where the return would be fair value.

      4) Go.

      5) Pittsburgh.

    • JUST ME says:

      1-Kings in 6.
      2-Stick with the plan and look for players exactly like Prust.
      3- Was never question to trade Price. Only on HIO and then again nobody is able to name replacement.
      4-Armstrong goes. We need to try someone else.

    • Timo says:

      1. They can. Don’t think they will.
      2. Get some mean mofo’s in the lineup and get a coach
      3. He could. But he won’t.
      4. He should go.
      5. LA

    • Le Jadester says:

      1) Yes, they have momentum from last nite’s huge win ! (BTW Officiating is piss poor in this league, pathetic)

      2) 1# Get something for Diaz or Georges
      2# Lose Moen and find a younger replacement

      3) Why not ? All options should be on the table in the best interests of the team. If he is not traded….he has a lot to prove in very little time IMO (i.e. 2 more seasons at the most).

      4) Armstrong should go….too slow.

      5) Penguins

      Habs, OLE !

  39. habstrinifan says:

    Call me a sh$#@-arse TROLL but I think the Gionta injury has shaken up MB’s plans a bit.

    Gionta was one of the most ‘tradeable’ HABS and therefore may have been a name front and centre of any significant MB deal. The rehab puts kaput to that.

    So I am gonna go real crazy now! I think MB is going to make a big player move. And I think not having Gionta as a chip means that, yes I am gonna say it, Price is more in play… with a ‘monster type deal’ of course… maybe Pacioretty in a lesser deal.

    As I said call me crazy.. I dont mind.. cause I base this on nothing but crazy gut feeling that MB is gonna make a BIG play.

    • D Mex says:

      Doesn’t seem that ‘ crazy ‘ to me.

      We will get a clear indication of what MB plans for the Habs once the off-season kicks off. Without the CBA / Lockout issues, big distractions leading into the abbreviated 2013 season, all of the usual variables, including free agency, trade market and the amateur draft will be fully in play.

      I look forward to seeing how MB and his team respond.

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

    • HabinBurlington says:

      You do realize the Gionta injury is a different arm from last season. The other arm healed fine, he will be ready to go for next season. I don’t think anyone sees this as a career ending injury for Gionta.

      Also, Gionta with his salary was much more likely to be traded at or near the trade deadline at a time when virtually any team could afford him and would want his veteran presence for a playoff run.

      How this relates to Price now in play I don’t follow. To me MB either believes in Price going forward or he doesn’t. I don’t think other plays tradeability will affect his judgement on Price.

      But I would never call you crazy ! 🙂

      • habstrinifan says:

        I think his injury may scare GM’s who could have seen him as a two to three year ‘veteran’ useful player.

        Working on my ‘crazy’ preamble that MB is gonna make a big splash and that Gionta was a nice player to dangle.. I think MB bangs the table says F-IT and goes bigger without too much damage. I know that sounds like I am throwing Price under the bus but I am not. I think the unpredictability of the goalie position lends itself to GM’s solidly upgrading elsewhere and hoping to throw horshoes on a ‘competent’ goalie.

      • Timo says:

        Does he have another arm he can injure?

    • Luke says:

      I think Gionta is a chip that could be in play. But I doubt it would have been during the off season even if healthy. Gionta’s value now is to a Cup contender looking to boost secondary offense.
      He’ll have value again at this years deadline to a team like the final four we see today.
      Hopefully MB is not opposed to trading any player on this roster. Everyone should be available for the right deal. Including Galchenyuk… I just can’t picture what it would take for him.

    • Fransaskois says:

      We have no depth along the wings or in net. Doesn’t make any sense for us to move Price or Pacioretty, in my opinion. I think Plekanec would be the most logical choice considering we have a 1st line centre (Desharnais 2011 edition) a big, defensive 2nd line centre (Eller post-concussion-no-problems edition) and several potential 3rd line centers (Galchenyuk, Dumont, Leblanc, Bournival, FA signing). He’ll likely be replaced by Eller and Galchenyuk sooner or later, maybe it’s time to put the wheels in motion.

    • Chris says:

      Gionta was never tradeable this summer, other than in some fan’s dreams.

      This summer will see very little in the way of teams adding players as most of the contending teams (the ones most likely to put a bid in for Gionta’s services) are running into cap issues.

      If Gionta is dealt, it will be at the trade deadline.

      Price, Pacioretty, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Eller and Subban are not going anywhere. You can pretty much take that to the bank.

      • Maritime Ron says:

        I would agree with you but you never know.
        Sometimes ‘youth for youth’ trades happen depending on need such as the Luke Schenn/JVR trade.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Any team that would be interested in Brian Gionta wouldn’t be that put off by the injury, it’s not like they need him to be ready right now. His rehab will be complete by the time he gets to training camp.

      The point is moot, I believe.

    • JUST ME says:

      I do not think Gionta is on Bergevin`s trading list more than any other player but of course if the offer is good…I think Bergevin is in the driver seat because this season is not the season he wants to make big moves. Another season with what we have,the rookies will have more experience,Hamilton will also offer more options and he will see wich Habs team is the real one , 28 th in the league or first in the division ?

  40. HabinBurlington says:

    I wonder if MB will be targeting Viktor Stalberg this off season. Stalberg was acquired by the Hawks in 2010 for Versteeg. Not sure what exactly MB was doing in Chicago at the time, but would be very familiar with this player.

    He provides speed, some goal scoring talent and perhaps could replace the absence of Cole/Ryder to some degree.

    He is a 27 year old UFA this summer, coming off an $850K per year contract.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I wouldn’t doubt it. He is fast and would be a 3rd line guy who could play 2nd line when needed.

      Chi town will have a few decisions to make in the off season

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Even though he doesn’t light it up every night he’s a big body that can create space for some of the smaller players. I could picture him and Gallagher working well together down low.

      • Luke says:

        Not to be a Debbie Downer, but it seems I am today, So I’m going to roll with it…

        What really differentiates Stalberg from A Kostitsyn?

        VS has been a healthy scratch twice this playoff, he is, at times, invisible. He is at time really engaged… He kinda sounds like AK46.

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          Just a novice, first glance, opinion. I seem him as more of a checker than Kostitsyn. I could be wrong as I paid zero attention to the West this year as the Habs never played a Western Conference team.

          • Luke says:

            That’s why I ask. I haven’t watched too much West either. The Habs were entertaining this year, so i wasn’t forced to look for fun hockey to watch!!

            So my opinion of Stalberg is largely formed by looking at his career#’s (uninspiring), the way folks in the media discuss him (which sounds similar to the way folks talked about AK) and the fact he seems to be readily available (as in the consensus indicates CHI won’t re-sign him).

            So I just kind of have a feeling ‘we’ are ‘coveting’ him not because he is anything special, but rather because he is ‘different’.
            In year two, after the honeymoon, I’d expect a lot of AK46 comparisons… he has so much skill, but his effort is inconsistent… he needs to score more… he dominates and disappears… he carries the puck too much… etc etc.

            Maybe I’m just getting mine in early! 😉

  41. habstrinifan says:

    Hawks deserve the win. But I dont see them beating LA. Something missing in their overall play. Maybe confidence strangely. It seems they lack self belief on the ice and Toews known for his resoluteness seems to have lost his, dare I say it, ‘hockey manhood’.
    He was praised as Captain Serious wasnt he… maybe being wound so tight for so long has taken its toll

    Am I the only one who saw a bit of JM lay back and wait style in Detroit’s play especially in the 1st and early 2nd periods… They played lots in their own end and only ventured out with ‘the long’ breakaway hail Mary pass. Gotta admit I didnt pay close attention to entire game.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      LA is strong, physical and has the best goal tending in the playoffs. It will be a long series as I think Chi town has the offense if Kane etc actually wake up.

      I would pick LA though over Chi town

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

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