Another road W

The Canadiens raised their Away record to a semi-respectable 15-15-1.

Pat Hickey’s game story

Linemates resuscitate AK46

Panthers rolled over at deadline

Quick Hits and About last night …

Arpon Basu on Jacques Martin trusting his rookies

454 Comments

  1. Bugs says:

    (scoff)

    Lame defence, Berkie. Really lame. Everybody’s tough. Facing a 4th d-man over a 5th d-man HALF the time…please.

  2. Bugs says:

    Are you going by ice-time in LAST NIGHT’S game?

    Cuz Pyatt had more too.

    And Gomie had almost twice as much as Eller…in last night,s game.

    That’s what you’re basing yourself on to judge who’ll play where in two years time?

  3. habs-hampton says:

    I was one of those people, and I still don’t think it would have been a bad thing. He’s playing really well lately. I just didn’t like seeing him in the press box, or getting benched evertime he made a mistake, when he could have been playing 18-20 minutes in Hamilton.

    I glad its working out.

  4. Storm Man says:

    New movie coming out this June……. Up in smoke part 2 starring Bugs. It is a tail of a lost soul who’s 8-ball let him down in standing by his boy Dizzy and his path to greatness.

  5. SLONCOLD says:

    if i respond with, team injuries, strong division, types of scoring chances or anything along those lines you’ll just say i’m making excuses. so i’ll drop it.

  6. HalifaxHabs says:

    ummm, obviously they were happy when they made it… or they wouldn’t have pulled the trigger.

    not saying they are or aren’t happy now, because I don’t know…. but it’s sort of stating the obvious to say they were happy with it when they made it.

  7. acerider8 says:

    I couldn’t disagree with you more. I think Weber has made great strides this year. He has 10 points (1 goal and 9 Assists) in 34 games and has proven he can be a very capable top 6 defenseman. Before the year started, I had all but given up on him as a prospect, but I think he has bounced back very nicely. Remember, he is only 22-23 years old and that comes with a very manageable cap hit (unlike Gill, Hamrlik, Wiz, etc.)

    For long term success, it is imperative for the organization to being drafting guys and bringing them through the system. This idea of building through trades and free agency is much to risky and expensive to keep up.

  8. kirkiswork says:

    You know how everybody talks of the habs defensive system good or bad. How come we are 4th in the league in shots on goal. It’s just too bad that more of them don’t find the back of the net, especially 5 on 5.

  9. TomNickle says:

    More excuses please.  You have to run out some time.

  10. Jonson says:

    lol good call

  11. Jonson says:

    i think its too early to tell how management feels about the trade, let him prove something.

  12. habs03 says:

    I think its Gomez job that he is going to take over in 2 years not Pleck, but I since they have the same stlye of play I think I know what you mean. I think everyone would agree that we expected a bit more from Eller early on, but I was  against him being set down for one reason, I think he just needs time to adjust to NHL D-men, notice how early on he always got his shots blocked by the D-men stick because they would close the gab on him a lot sooner than an AHL D-man would.

  13. Storm Man says:

    You posted on a fan site that Blues management is happy with the trade…… Is that not called a assumption?

  14. TomNickle says:

    Of course defensive systems help goalies.  But I’m not gonna say that Price’s numbers would be where Halak’s are if he were in St.Louis, not by a long shot.  Eller obviously will be developing for some years to come.  If you want to fall back on his point production in his first 55 games and ignore how valuable he’s been on the walls, in front of the net and how much promise he’s shown that’s fine too.  

    Halak’s had a rash of injuries and a significant drop in production after signing a four year contract worth around $15 million.  We’ll see next year if that’s a coincidence.

  15. light_n_tasty says:

    Let’s hope you were wrong, otherwise no playoffs for us.

  16. light_n_tasty says:

    Check yesterday’s main board post.  They haven’t gone anywhere.

  17. HabFanSince72 says:

    The only stat that Roy needs on his CV, the one that makes him the cast-iron greatest goalie of all time, is:

     

    Conn-Smythe Trophies: 3.

  18. TomNickle says:

    Do you mind if I ask you how you feel about that trade now my friend?

    You know, the trade I kept telling you was a homerun for us and the one you were up in arms over?  😉

  19. Rudy says:

    That can be viewed in the US as well? I can find the Videotron ones of “Nos Canadiens”, but you can’t play it in the states.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  20. Bugs says:

    “Can’t play here; can’t there…”

    From what we’ve seen with our own eyes, the only player who can’t play out of “position” is Eller.

  21. Timo says:

    Diagree on Sopel with you. So far have seen nothing from him other than being slow, clumsy and I don’t think he laid a single hit on anybody yet. Maybe he is different in playoffs, but so far he’s been less than impressive.

  22. kingstonhabfan says:

    Agreed.  Sopel is going to be a big help come playoff time.  Remember what Gill did for the team last year- Sopel comes in and does the same.  Those guys will take pressure off of PK and Wiz and let them do what they do best.

  23. TomNickle says:

    Weber watching come April isn’t such a bad thing.

    If I’m going to go to war against the Flyers or Bruins I want Sopel instead of Weber.  No offense to Weber.  I think he’s got a tremendously bright future and want him here for years to come.

  24. TomNickle says:

    Nattinen, Kristo, Gallagher, Ellis, Simila, the rights to Ramo, the rights to Yemelin.

    In my opinion, this team is behind Los Angeles and quite possibly only Los Angeles in terms of prospects.

     

  25. CBrady12 says:

    Ryan White isnt here to score!! the kid has 3 goals in the AHL this year 3!!! common man,,, how bout some realistic expectations

  26. kingstonhabfan says:

    Natural hat trick on Wednesday night for Dawes and he sets up the winner.  Get him in!

  27. joshua94k says:

    CBC, TSN, Globe and Mail, Vancouver Sun, Boston Globe, New York Post, ESPN, Chicago Tribune etc, all missed the boat. The real clear winner of this season’s trading deadline is …..

    (keep in mind a team doesn’t have to wait till the last day to make a move)

    GM Gauthier of the Montreal Canadiens

    Without giving too much has added a lot of depth and experience to this team filling the void of Markov and Gorges to a certain degree.

    Mike Boone has noted some key observations about the two acquisitions made by Gauthier.

    Wiz is seventh among NHL Dmen with 42 points – four fewer than Dustin Byfuglien and Kris Letang, each of whom has played seven games more than Wizniewski.

     

    The Canadiens haven’t yielded a power-play goal with Brent Sopel in the lineup. That’s what they go him for, to play second unit behind Gill and P.K. Subban, and the PK is 12-for-12 over three games, all Ws.

    One commenter (maybe McGuire) noted that the Canadiens are too old and don’t have too much to offer. How this guy is allowed to make his comments on national TV is unfathomable. Has he not heard of Eller, Paccioretty, Desharnais, Subban, Price, Webber, White, Tinordi, Leblanc etc.

    Gauthier helped the team by adding Wisneiwski, Sopel and Halpern without giving up the above mentioned young core and good draft picks.

    Also going into the play-off we will have the experience and leadership of Gionta, Gill, Moen, Hamrlik, Gomez who knwo what it takes to win.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  28. kingstonhabfan says:

     

    Not right now- we are getting secondary scoring from two guys we didn’t think we’d get much from at all.  JM needs to leave Kostitsyn and Eller alone until this drys up.

  29. forskis says:

    I mentioned this last night:

    For all the bashing of JM for stifling the team’s offensive and creative players and how every other coach and team is better than this one, consider this:

    The Washington Capitals with their vastly superior firepower has scored only ONE more goal than the Habs in the same number of games…so, if it is bad that JM stifles the Habs, then it stands to reason that it is a travesty that Boudreau is stifling the Capitals, no?

    So really, the Habs definitely aren’t as good as we think, but they sure as heck are nowhere near as bad as we think.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  30. Bugs says:

    Been all around the news. Common thread seems to be that my boy simply “lobbed it into the zone.” The Canadian Press says the puck “deflected off a stick” towards Dezzy. Cyberpresse goes even further into ignominy by awarding Moen Pass of the Night.

    No mention of my boy’s Pass of the YEAR. … Anywhere!

    Brett FAVRE wouldn’t have placed a pass so perfectly.

    I’m in total shock and must admit, am starting to question my eyesight/sanity. Surely, one’s fandom for a specific player couldn’t blind them SO much to perceive a Pass of the Year where only a routine play existed?

    It was friggin GLORIOUS!

  31. G-Man says:

    As the Gomez and Martin bashing continues, Arpon Baitsyou continues with his nonsense. Rookies and younger players get more ice time when the team has an early lead and continues to build on it. If last night’s game was anywhere near close, their TOI would have dropped dramatically.

  32. HabFanSince72 says:

    Brodeur.

  33. kingstonhabfan says:

    Then we need to see what he can do. 

  34. Bugs says:

    We got the two points 5 minutes into the game. A child of four woulda conluded by them that the Panters had nuthin and weren’t gonna come back. Two points in the bank right from the get-go.

    So you throw the kids into the fire; that’s what you do and that’s what Jack Marty did.

    Agree with you, Gee.

  35. Malreg says:

    This is a popular myth.  2-way contracts does not mean you do not have to go through waivers.  It just means that if the player is in the AHL he makes a lower salary than compared to being in the NHL.  If a player signs a 1-way $500,000 contract, and is sent to the AHL, the team still has to pay him $500,000.  But, if he signs a 2-way $500,000 and $75,000 deal, he’ll only make $75,000 in the AHL.

    Whether or not you need to go through waivers all depends on age, and total games played in your career.

  36. habs365 says:

    you can bash Gomez all you want..he’s making the big bucks and what you or I say doesn’t matter and nothing will change..so give the bashing up and say something positive about the team..like a bunch of 4 year old’s fighting over toys…..

  37. larisalapointe says:

    I agree, it was the pass of the season Bugs. :)
    So underrated Pouliot is.

  38. CanadienBoy says:

     I’m on the Larry’s bandwagon

  39. Habitoba says:

    Funny, in an article dedicated to Andrei’s resuscitation, nowhere is there any mention about how Andrei feels about his recent burst, whether he’s taken his demotion to the third line to heart or anything. It’s just his linemates and a couple other guys talking about him.

  40. adamkennelly says:

    I want to see what Dawes can do..get him in the line up instead of Pyatt – actually get anyone in the line up instead of Pyatt…

    Hordichuk runs over Cammy and nothing – thats team toughness…

  41. Ton says:

    i dont know about how good is halpern on that line. he’s messing up Cam and plek.  we need someone with offensive talent. ak belongs there but do you mess up the chemistry he is now having

  42. kingstonhabfan says:

    I’m with you- does anyone see a game on the horizon when maybe he gets in?

  43. J_P says:

    I think the problem with dawes is that he’s on a one-way contract and would have to pass through waivers on the way up.

  44. CanadienBoy says:

    Don’t forget Sopel got a ring as well

  45. Say Ash says:

    Off the top of your head: 23-year-old goalies that have posted 30-win seasons?

  46. munch17 says:

    I am also a little tired of the Gomez bashing. Yes he earns too much money – hard to blame him for that. But since his arrival – and the arival of the other veterans – the team has done well ( even without Markov) and are in the hunt , and had a good run last year.

    Last night he was in front of the net on the first goal, we won , he did not do anything too bad. Yes, Desharnais had a goal ( aweak , lucky one) but this team needs a motivated Gomez to get anywhere in the play-offs.

    On another note – Halpern is a great checker – but he’s checking our # 1 line right now!

  47. kingstonhabfan says:

    Cam Ward and Steve Mason maybe??

  48. BoomBoom says:

    I agree, would like to see him on a line with Double D and Pouliot. I don’t think Pyatt has what it takes right now to be an effective player other than a PK specialist. I like White but he hasn’t scored yet so I’d like to bring up Dawes send down Pyatt and have Dawes and White split some time in the line-up depending on the opponent. By the way, Dawes is 200lbs..short stocky guys are really strong on their skates. 

  49. kingstonhabfan says:

    Oh well that’s a different story- I didn’t know that…

  50. toinz says:

    if you go on capgeek, the players you see with red salaries are on 2-way contracts

     

    Dawes’ contract is indeed red so the Habs can call him up at any time.

  51. samTHEman says:

    Yeah…Before the season started, one of Smartdog’s questions was how many wins will Price finish with. I said 33 and a lot of people laughed. OH WELL!!!!!

  52. RGM says:

    He’s about as good a public speaker as Phil Kessel or a brick.

    Go Habs Go!

  53. RGM says:

    “One commenter (maybe McGuire) noted that the Canadiens are too old and don’t have too much to offer. How this guy is allowed to make his comments on national TV is unfathomable. Has he not heard of Eller, Paccioretty, Desharnais, Subban, Price, Webber, White, Tinordi, Leblanc etc.”

    If you were Gauthier, would you offer up any of those players (outside of Ryan White) for any of the players that were moved on Trade Deadline Day? Me neither.

    So outside of those integral pieces of the future of the Montreal Canadiens, who do we have to move that would bring back a value player? Aging veterans that don’t bring much of an upside to the teams that would conceivably be taking them on – how would 36-year old Spacek or 35-year old Gill “fit” into the youth movement in a place like Florida or Edmonton?

    Go Habs Go!

  54. CBrady12 says:

    Aside from one or two comments about Pouliots nice pass, almost all the comments are complaints…powerplay, gomez, ice time for rookies, gomez, jm, gomez, gomez, gomez…I guess thats what happends when the habs are on a 3 game WINNING streak…great fans here I tell ya!

  55. Mattyleg says:

    That was a sellout?

    Since when does a sellout involve so many empty seats??

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  56. joeybarrie says:

    You know its funny. In some cities in the NHL they sell out the seats because there is a team coming to town that everyone wants to see… These teams are usually inareas where there is alot of hockey following, namely the HABS. So if the HABS can sell out Florida, don’t you think they can sell out Quebec City, or some other Canadian city better than ATLANTA or the other low attendance cities.

    When I first moved to Washington DC, the Expos moved with me. And the advertisments here said BASEBALL WAS COMING HOME… I think someone should tell BETTMAN where Hockey’s home is. I mean I am pretty sure I saw more NORDIQUES jerseys in the stands than Panthers ones……….

    WAKE UP BETTMAN, The Montreal Impact gets more fans than some of your NHL teams.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  57. samTHEman says:

    cam-plek-pacioretty

    gio-gomez-halpern

    ak-eller-moen

    pouliot-dd-dawes/white

  58. HabFanSince72 says:

    Anyone else see the game highlights from last night?

    The Bruins are gooning it up again. This is their M.O. of course, and it’s won them all of 2 cups in 68 years.

  59. toinz says:

    id actually leave him in Hamilton because the Habs are winning and giving Carey Price enough goal support recently for the system to win the game.

     

    Apart from the western road swing, the Canadiens are consistently getting 3 goals a game. For a defensive team thats more than enough

     

  60. CBrady12 says:

    Teams have seen what he can do. He’s not a rookie or anything. Hes a carreer 4th liner. Do you think hes just gonna come up and start scoring natural hat tricks in the NHL. I think many of you underestimate the difference in talent level and speed between the AHL and NHL. 

  61. DrewCareyPriceIsRight says:

    I’m with you on this one…Benny totally intended that…instead of flipping it to a corner and chasing, he saw the little man and lobbed it right to him.  It was a thing of beauty.  Had Sidney or Ovie pulled one of those it would have been all over TSN.

  62. HalifaxHabs says:

    I feel like Boston, as an organization, secretly feels that they can get away with just a little bit more then everyone else as long as they keep Gregory Campbell in the line-up. Daddy will turn the other cheek.

    There have been more than a few questionable offenses commited by the Broons this year that may have gotten heat from the league, but curiously did not. Lucic didn’t even get suspended for sucker punching a guy.

    I hate Boston and look forward to a head disciplinarine, with a set of nuts, taking over for Mr Campbell someday.

  63. toinz says:

    I was bored and looked it up, and you are right

     

    ALtho players on one-way contracts will always go through waivers, regardless of experience,

     

    Dawes has over 200 NHL games so he is definitely eligible

  64. adamkennelly says:

    do some research – in his full years in the league he scored 14, 10 and 14 goals in no more than 66 games..this year he has 33 goals in the AHL in 51 games…so…..that says – its worth giving him a chance see what he can do…or is Tom Pyatts’ 1 goal in 50 games too much to risk?


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