Another bloody chapter

Photo making the rounds on Twitter this morning, bound to go viral, by QMI on the front page of the Journal de Montreal.

Think Zdeno Chara’s hit on Max Pacioretty might be mentioned on sports radio today?

Chara faces a noon hearing, by phone. He hasn’t been called to the principal’s office, which means a suspension of two or three games, max.

And the updated medical report, per Renaud Lavoie of RDS, is a severe concussion and possible neck injury.

Pat Hickey’s game story

Stubbs column: Hit casts long shadow

Martin urges NHL to take action

Red Fisher’s column

Quick Hits and About last night …

Bergeron knows the feeling

Arpon Basu and Bob McKenzie on the hit



  1. Graves says:

    To me, the worst thing about this garbage isn’t the fact that Chara will get away with a slap on the wrist (if Chris Pronger as a repeat offender only gets eight games for curb-stomping someone, Chara will get two games at the most), it’s the fact that these plays are ruining hockey for me.

    Last night, I honestly thought Pacioretty was lying dead on the ice. That’s not hyperbole, that’s the truth. Yet another good young player whose career might now be in jeopardy because of some thug idiot and a league that doesn’t take discipline seriously. This isn’t just disheartening to me as a Canadiens fan, it’s disheartening to me as a fan of the game. I don’t want to watch games full of Cookes and Prongers and Charas because they’ve been allowed to take out the Crosbys with dirty plays. It’s just not hockey anymore.

    Last night, I was watching the Canadiens handing the Bruins their asses by playing one of the best hockey games I’ve seen in a long time. Then I watched as the Bruins tried to derail everything by playing a game of cheapshots and thuggery. I’m not even angry anymore. I’m just depressed thinking about what this means for the future of the game I love.

    I wish all the best to Pacioretty and his family.

  2. matraque says:

    Seems like they also blocked comments from their articles…


    Canadien en 5! Never go Full Retard

  3. habs365 says:

    I have one thing to say to chara…you’re a big goofy goon and if I was playing against ya…you would have bad knees for the rest of your life…you may be big and strong but your knees are like everyone else…I hope every player in the league reads this message and do me a favor……

  4. axman88 says:

    1. Chara and Paciorretti have history (the little shove after the OT winner)

    2. Puck was dumped in a few seconds before the hit

    3. Period was winding down – 16 seconds left (Chara has a history of starting things up at the end of periods/games)

    4. He was shoved/pushed into the boards/glass NOT checked

    5. Chara shoved Paciorretti’s head NOT his body

    6. You can’t hit a player from behind. Which means you have to be aware of your surroundings. I’m not sure what Chara’s intentions were, to hit him into the bench, glass, pole? Who knows? But he was aware that if he were to hit him in that area it would be very likely that he’d be thrown into the bruins bench. But the problem is, when a player is going at that speed and Chara’s intent is to SHOVE not CHECK into the bench – there’s no way in HELL that the player comes out injury free.

  5. mrhabby says:

    here we go again. as i watched the game last night i said to my wife..something dirty will happen and possibly something bad..well i was right.

    chara had every intent of doing what ever was possible to take patchs out and if possible hurt the guy.his body movements and the angle he takes sure look like he knew what he was doing… okay so he ran out of room. a dirty, cheap shot thats what it is and a needless hit at that.

    what a gutless bunch of pukes the bruins are.the chicken wants to fight pouliot with no time left to make a point for that reason alone give me derk boogard to take care of this crap.

    i cannot wait to see if the NHL does something about this..i honestly don’t expect much maybe a game or two if that.

    i have to laugh at the media..hardly any bad things to say about this yet they tore gillies of the islanders apart for his actions.

    freakin unreal.

  6. pmaraw says:

    wow, look at that picture….  he’s shoving  the face into the extension.  obvious is still obvious.

  7. CanadienBoy says:

    Teams play by they coaches mentality,Julien keep sending is goons at the end off games all the time ,he is the one letting them play like that.

  8. zaq007 says:

    Still upset about this hit, what adds to it is the fact that so much people are defending it sayong he didn’t know where he was on the ice or it’s the rinks fault…really? urrgg…

  9. Ton says:

    i posted yesterday and provided two video’s that can be slowed down to see how chara was positioned and angled. where his head and sights were aimed at, his arms and how they acted to force Max into the turn buckel.  he wanted to hurt him bottom line, perhaps not kill him, but he wanted to hurt him. bottomline a 5 minute penalty was called, there must be action.  

    On to to Max for their was enough said about the hit………..max has the potential to be a great hab, he could be another Rich Nash, do you see his one timer, for those who play hockey its the most skillful play you make on the ice…..i hope he recovers but the damage will always be there, they say your never the same and this is why we have sick feelings this morning. considering that they had said we were the cheap shot artists yesterday its quite ironic how things were work out………….. 

  10. DearyLeary says:

    Disciplinary hearing at 12 today.  Quick turnaround suggests to me that it’ll be nothing, or a slap on the wrist.

  11. Habsrule1 says:

    I hate the bruins & chara as much as the next guy but I just don’t think he meant for that to happen. I really hope I’m right too.

    Other than that, did anyone else think the White fight was oing to have a huge impact when it happened? I still think it set the tone and made a big difference in the game we wound up seeing.

    After that, the Habs played to their strengths and showed that the last game was a blip on the map.

    It was so frustrating to hear after the last game so many fans and media personalities insinuating that the Habs could not play with the bruins due to the size and toughness difference. I’d be fine wit meeting them in the playoffs this year. The Habs are deeper and every line seems to be contributing a bit more each game.

    Of course, I hope Pacioretty is back if that happens.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  12. DearyLeary says:

    We don’t excuse manslaughter in civil society, why should we excuse reckless play that results in an injury?

  13. Caballero says:

    Oof, lots of heated debates going on. Martin Mcguire believes that Chara has a hard time controlling his emotions and is a danger on the ice because of his size.

    I agree with him on one point, anyone who looks at this and sees a clean hit and nothing there has zero credibility as a human being.

  14. Habsrule1 says:

    I don’t excuse it and I think he should be suspended. It was absolutely reckless and stupid. I just personally do not think it was malicious, but I could be wrong.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  15. Ton says:

    did he take advantage of a player in a vulernable position? yes/no

  16. twocents says:

    Chara had intent to injure. You don’t have to be a mind reader.

    It was an illegal hit(no big deal there) that he finished with gusto. No matter how fast they are going players know where they are on the ice relative to things approaching them. He knew the post was there. There isn’t even the slightest indication that he let off, considering the approaching post. Quite the opposite.

    It’s simple really.

    Those who argue it wasn’t that vicious of hit are skirting the matter. It’s not about how many newtons of force he delivered, it’s about the situation and the fact that even to the last millisecond his body betrayed no attempt to minimize the potential injury.

    His actions and words afterward support this view. 

    If the NHL fails to act decisively, and they likely will, it is truly a sad state of affairs.

  17. Habsrule1 says:

    He should be suspended cause of the recklessness. I’m not sure if there was intent to injure. If this was on the opposite side of the ice, he probably would have made the same play with no result. I don’t know for sure what he was thinking…only he does.

    By the way, the rest of my post was brilliant…comment on that too 😉

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  18. adamkennelly says:

    Chara and Julien are so obviously full of crap.  Julien in his interview calling him “the player” HEY COACH – you are trying to tell us you don’t know who that was – you have no idea who is on the ice for the opposition?  you don’t know his name?  Same with Chara.  and I’m sorry but some of the reporters are taking such a pussy stance on this it turns my stomach…same guys who literally were hanging Gilles for what amounts to a kiss on the cheek are saying that they are just not sure on this one.

    grow a set and call it what it was…clear intent to do some damage and send a message, well after the puck was gone that resulted in a severe injury..intent to injure – that would be tough to proove but intent to punish a player with whom you have a prior history in a game that was over – absolutely.

    and all this Chara is not dirty crap – anyone remember when he caved Ivanans face in – in a fight when he played for the Habs – with a cheap shot punch after he was down and defenseless…he is a scumbag.

  19. Habsrule1 says:

    I’m the biggest Habs fan I know, but you have to take emotion out of it. It was not a clean hit due to where he was. Had this happened anywhere else on the ice, there would be no debate. The question is did Chara know exactly what he was doing and intend to hit Max into the end of the glass?

    None of us know that for sure, but it is his responsibility to know his surroundings, so whether or not the hit was malicious, he deserves a suspension for hurting a guy due to his own recklessness.

    I’d be ok with 5-10 games, but I think he’ll get 2.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  20. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Really sad to see media, especially Habs media, taking such a p_ssy stance on this. Still trying to figure it out. Does it make them feel more objective or something?

  21. Gorges_the_great says:

    I agree that Chara not a generally malicious player (or at least not among the most malicious) and did not want that outcome specifically, but he did want something.

    I think what happened was a confluence of factors. It must have been frustrating for Chara to be down 4-0. It was frustrating to get booed everytime he touched the puck, and Pacioretty has definitely frustrated Chara before. Chara was in a position where his choices were let Pacioretty get by and potentially make the game 5-0 or drive his head into the post. When making a quick decision, frustration can overwhelm you and you can make the wrong choice. Ultimately, Chara made the wrong choice and should now face the consequences of it.

    I would say 5 games minimum although I know that league will be more lenient than I would. It’s kind of strange how we think of 5 games as a big suspension. In the grand scheme of things, especially when compared to dealing with a concussion, 5 games is a drop in the bucket. The NHL needs more perspective on this issue.

  22. Habsrule1 says:

    This is how I feel 

    And I wrote what I did below before reading this. Perhaps it’s objectivity, perhaps it’s blindness, but I agree with Bob.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  23. Ton says:

    yes good post but what I got is yes he should be suspended but he didn’t mean to do it……………………….so I asked didchara take advantage of a player in a vulernable position, yes/no. well you didn’t committ but you think that he should be suspended………..i take it its a yes therefore there was intent to injure, of course there was………lets see how the leaque sees it.

  24. twocents says:

    Look at the picture above.

    You and Bob are very wrong.

  25. pmaraw says:
    Darren Dreger

    Zdeno Chara will have a phone hearing with the NHL’s Mike Murphy at noon today.
    okay, so no suspension coming, callin campbell cant even make the phone call, must not be too important.
  26. J_P says:

    The photo above shows it all.  You can see chara’s hand pushing paccioretty’s face into the divider.  What makes it even more suspect is the fact that chara is looking forward the whole time, as if to pretend he had no idea what he was doing.

    Such a dispicable act.  Pathetic that he probably wont get any suspension at all because Colin Campbell’s son plays for the bruins.  The ref gave a 5 minute major and game misconduct, so clearly the ref found serious fault in chara’s actions.  Hopefully the league actually grows a pair and responds accordingly. 

    Anyone who thinks the hit was some sort of freak accident needs their head examined.

    As for Chara saying he was simply “jockeying for position”, he’s full of it.  He wasn’t even looking to get the puck and the puck was nowhere near them. 

    Otherwise, HUGE win by the boys.  They’re really bringing it and strengthening their case to be considered legitimate contenders.  Big wins over Tampa and the Bruins back to back.  The habs played THEIR game (not boston’s game) and the bruins had no answer for them as always. Funny how Boston resorts to goon tactics when they’re being dominated, but the habs are the ones who get called a dirty team…

  27. Gorges_the_great says:

    Campbell isn’t allowed to judge on this situation because his son plays for Boston.

  28. Iceberg84 says:

    I don’t think it matters what Chara’s history is like (except to determine a longer punishment I suppose for a repeat offender), when your hit leaves another player unconscious and lying on the ground, something has to be done. His intentions are totally meaningless, he could have wished Pacioretty sunshine and roses for all the good it did anyone, they could have been best buds on their way to a picnic, but after delivering a hit like that, who cares? The NHL should throw the book at Chara, not for the rest of the season but long enough to send a message. He’s a big, scary guy who’s been around long enough to know every inch of a hockey rink, he must have had a strong indication of how point A would reach point C (A being Pac’s head and C being an inanimate object, in this case a metal post).

    Personally, I think if your hit takes a player out for an extended period of time, you should have to be suspended for as long as that player is unable to play, but that’s just my own opinion and obviously not something I consider realisitic in a league like the NHL.

    Aside from that ugliness, I was really happy with the win and jumping for joy until the last 15 seconds of the second, like everyone else. I hope Pacioretty recovers quickly and doesn’t develop bizarre psychic abiltiies, start seeing dead people, foreseeing disastrous events in the future or any other aftereffect of head trauma that TV and film has taught me CAN happen if you’re lucky enough!

  29. HalifaxHabs says:

    agreed… it’s funny, does everyone remeber when those controversial emails we’re leaked where Colen Cambell was saying a ref should be fired for calling penalties on his son… funny how quickly those were swept under the rug by the press.

    can anyone say conflict of interest?

  30. pmaraw says:

    well then he shouldnt be in the position he’s in at all.

  31. Habsrule1 says:

    No way to know if there was intent to injure. Would he have made the exact same play had he been somewhere else on the ice? I think he would have, but that does  not disprove intent either.

    To me it doesn’t matter. He deserves to be suspended because his actions caused a serious injury. If he had checked sopmeone into the boards head first without intent to injure (if that’s possible), he’d be suspended. Same rule applies.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  32. Mark C says:

    A phone hearing means that the suspension, if there is one, will be no more than 5 games. For suspensions more than 5 games a in person meeting is needed.

  33. Willy the bum says:

    Couldn’t sleep last night… that ain’t good, right?

    In all honestly, after that game, I don’t give a crap about the win or wonder if the NHL will do something to Chara or not… all that matter to me and to the fans is to hear a good recovery for Patches.

    Give us the updates soon, please?

  34. McPhee35 says:

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    Join this group:

    The Power in numbers might mean they have to take severe action.

  35. Psycho29 says:

    Chara can say whatever he wants to the media, like it wasn’t intentional, or he hopes Max will be ok, but you can bet while he was on the team bus before he spoke to the media that someone from the Bruin’s management or his agent told him what to say and how to spin it. It’s called damage control.

    The hit even made the CTV National News at 11:00 last night…

    Will Chara get suspended? I don’t know what to think. If he gets less than 10 games, I will be very disappointed. If he gets anything, I will be very surprised.



  36. habs365 says:

    if it’s a dirty hit , I agree with you 100%…the player who delivers the hit should be gone as long as the injured player without pay and those type of hit’s would disappear in a hurry…that’s the only way the NHL is gonna get their message across…bettman and campbell if you read this I have two things to say..wake up

  37. Habsrule1 says:

    I prefer a discussion to someone stating I am wrong and they are right. Unless you have mind-reading powers I’m not aware of.

    Bob has been analyzing hockey for a long time. Not to say he can’t be wrong, but it’s not as black and white as you seem to think.

    I really wonder how everyone here would be talking if it was a Habs player who did what Chara did. I know you all think you’d say the same thing, but I doubt it.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  38. Captain aHab says:

    Lost in all this is the fact that JM actually almost showed emotion about the play. The league is bound to fine him. Like Pierre Boivin who called the play disgusting. Wouldn’t want anyone looking like they’d like the league to take some action.

  39. Sudbury Hab Fan says:

    Most definitley a message needs to be sent and  I believe that it has to be done by the fans in support of the sport.  Hit the league where it counts and that is in the pocket book because lets be honest Bettman is a joke and he needs to go.

    I would suggest that if there is little or no action taken on this then people protest by not going to the next Habs home game.  This is not just a problem with Max this is a league problem.  If I remember correctly, both hits on Sidney Crosby were not penalized…BRUTAL. 

    I stopped watching hockey for about 8 years because I was sick and tired of the cheapshots and not getting to watch quality players showing off their skill.  Unfortunately that is about to happen again if something is not done soon.  I am no Mario Lemieux fan, but he certainly has it right…and if it is true, I would love to see him have an opportunity to be Commissioner of the league.


  40. Gorges_the_great says:


  41. Captain aHab says:

    Getting a guy like Boogard would only mean the Habs would end up on the wrong end of most PP opportunities. The best way to do it is to score on the PP when the Bruins goon it up and hope the league eventually gets a clue.

  42. DearyLeary says:

    It’s not just that: this was a penalty no matter where it happened on the ice, it was interference in the best case scenario (not that it would have been called anywhere else on the ice, but that’s another issue).  When a penalty results in injury it has to be met with a response from the league.

    No puck possession, opponent in a vulnerable position, and hands/elbows at head level of the opponent, with extended arms.  It’s a no brainer that this needs to be addressed.  

    But the NHL will pass, saying that Chara’s some kind of saint, and that a match penalty was enough of a punishment.  In the end the NFL, who’s players’ lives are significantly shortened because of the brutality of the sport, probably cares more about its athletes than Gary and the gang.

  43. DearyLeary says:

    This was a penalty no matter where it happened on the ice, it was interference in the best case scenario (not that it would have been called anywhere else on the ice, but that’s another issue).  When a penalty results in injury it has to be met with a response from the league.

    No puck possession, opponent in a vulnerable position, and hands/elbows at head level of the opponent, with extended arms.  It’s a no brainer that this needs to be addressed.  

    But the NHL will pass, saying that Chara’s some kind of saint, and that a match penalty was enough of a punishment.  In the end the NFL, who’s players’ lives are significantly shortened because of the brutality of the sport, probably cares more about its athletes than Gary and the gang.

  44. Ton says:

    perhaps chara should take a walk in st leonard on his next visit, donate as he usually those to local charities in that community. he can show remorse in our kind understanding community.  he will be forgiven…………… me…………….we will forgive……..afterall norris trophy winner,  boston man of the year, spokeman for big and tall clothing………….yes we welcome you to st leonard………like Julien said we just don’t know the other side of you…….we understand.

  45. Habsrule1 says:

    I agree 100% with you.

    My only question is whether this was malicious or not, and I don’t think anyone can ever know that for sure….besides chara. How do we decide that we know what someone else was thinking. It’s not as black & white as a stick to the head a la McSorley, in my opinion.

    Beyond that, get him out for a few games to show players that they are responsible for their actions, intentional or not.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  46. zaq007 says:

    Ya just watched ESPN’s opinion on the hit, stuff like that is just wow

  47. Psycho29 says:

    Here’s a quote from the Boston Globe article. Why am I not surprised??

    “Chara is tossed from game, assessed 5:00 for interfence and given a game misconduct. Very questionable call. Hit was without malice. Chara finishes check and Pacioretty unfortunate to hit support beam.”

  48. Mr. Habs says:

    From that picture right there, if Bigfoot doesn’t get 10 plus games then this league is surely BUSH LEAGUE!

  49. Malreg says:

    Mario Lemieux? You mean the guy that writes Matt Cooke’s paychecks? 

    The only interest in hockey Lemieux has is for himself and his own team.  He hardly ever attends any of the league meetings, or participates in the developmental groups that work on bettering the game, but as soon as something happens to his team it’s “I don’t want to be in the league if this is the direction it’s headding in”.  Funny how we didn’t hear him say that when Cooke took out Savard.

  50. McPhee35 says:

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  51. twocents says:

    I don’t assume to know if Chara wanted to hurt him as badly as he did, in fact I highly doubt he did.

    But, I am certain he was aware of directing his head to the post.


    And that’s enough intent to make this a serious infraction.

    btw, I prefer to think for myself.

  52. blu3chip says:

    I still couldn’t believe that Pronger did that and is still allowed to play in the league.

    NHL is truly a bush league.

  53. Caballero says:

    Let’s be honest, if Gill would have done that to a Boston player, don’t you think they would have destroyed PK or Price?

    When the league doesn’t mete out proper suspensions, it only encourages players to take justice into their own hands. I am personally blown away by the ability of our players to control themselves like professionals. After seeing that hit I probably would have done something equally regrettable with my stick.

  54. Habsrule1 says:

    Habs played their best game of the season and we boycott? That’s not the answer. I hoe Chara gets a few games, but this is not the incident I’d start a boycott over.

    Mario Lemieux? I lost all respect for him. I used to love him. Hespeaks out when he feels his team was wronged. Where was he after all of Matt Cooke’s cheap shots? If he meant what he says, he would have suspendd Cooke himself, regardless of the league’s decision. Instead, Cooke now has the ‘A’ on his jersey!

    What a hypocrite!

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  55. Graves says:

    I think the better question is: would Gill ever do that to anyone? All this crap about “oh, it’s just Chara being strong and bigger.” Well, Gill is just about Chara’s size but I’ve never seen him do anything like this. Gah, this just blows.

  56. Habsrule1 says:

    Ok, so you THINK that was his intent. That’s fine. It really doesn’t matter. He should be suspended for the action, whether there was intent or not. It was a reckless action that, in my opinion deserves 5 games or more.

    Unfortunately, he’ll probably only get 2.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  57. mrhabby says:

    iam ranting.

  58. crunched says:

    remember the 8-6 victory by the Bruins at THE GARDEN kicked all the habs asses 1 by 1. Bruins are bigger na dbadder than the pusses from montreal.. EH

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    A sad note was we were there a week after Domenic signed with Tampa Bay and he was still out on the ice with his Habs cap and gloves on … made me feel really bad.

    Yeah it’s a business, but when you see the inner workings up close… sometimes not so nice.

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    Sometimes I wish the real law, police and proscutors would step in and tell the NHL, you know what you can’t police yourself, then we will. In this case, lay charges on Chara…I know it would never happen, but we may have witnessed the end of a promising career last night, not to mention a younf man who will have to deal with the symptoms and after effects for the rest of his life.

    P.S: Yes, I am a Habs fan but I think it was a crime that Bertuzzi is still able to earn a living in the NHL and Moore is living in his parents basement still suffering from the attack.

  63. Habfan4lfe says: should go into another sport, all 3 of ya, because obviously you are missing the game here. Not malicious? pffft. A sack of potatoes is smarter than all 3 of you. It’s pathetic you would come here and try and defend your obvious blindness/sit on the fence bs attitude.

  64. Habnofear says:

    If Chara doesn’t get banned from the rest of the season and all play-off action then there are NO RULES PERIOD.Someone pointed out last night how the NHL has no problem making the call when the puck gets flipped over the glass so there is no excuse here ,we all seen the hit and it was attempted murder. Get well soon young man…….

  65. Mike D says:

    From TSN:


    (sorry for the caps, I just copied/pasted the headline)

    – Honestly yours

  66. BoomBoom says:

    The Sportsnet crew…biggest joke of what passes for analysis. Watching “connected” last night made me sick (I usually watch sportscentre but the Brier was on). Martine Gaillard is a joke and a perfect example of dumb. She had a smile on her face when discussing he hit and then says it was a clean hit, before moving on to the Leafs. Sportsnet is 2nd rate..actually it is 3rd rate, I think the Score is way better.

  67. Habfan4lfe says:

    I can’t see the vid, it’s blocked at work. I will assume you were just being sarcastic then.

  68. shiram says:

    We cannot know or guess intent, but we know who the responsibility of the hit falls on, and he isnt taking responsibility.

  69. Clutch10 says:

    c4 c5 fracture, thats what team 990 is reporting. Im allmost in tears.

  70. Habnofear says:

    This is to Dave Stubbs and anyone  else who “Didn’t see this coming!”….Never forget!

  71. REB says:

    While I agree with pretty much everything that was posted, I agree…flag and remove this post.

  72. shiram says:

    You posted that a few times now, and I cannot read the comments right now, but I have to wonder in the scope of things, how important an internet poll is.

  73. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Ban? For what?

  74. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Can we keep the curse though? C’mon…just the curse???

  75. Mattyleg says:

    Ummm… I never said that.

    Did you look at the clip?


    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  76. Habfan4lfe says:

    If you want to sit there and tell me ref’s are otherwise then I think you need to pick up and rules handbook and read it over and get familiar with the rules. There is no rule that states a referee picks and chooses when he calls a penalty. The NHL, espcially this year has some seriously bad referee’s out there.

  77. Bugs says:

    “Any advice for getting out of a scoring slump?”

  78. Habnofear says:

    No Bugs……leave it!

  79. FortWayneHab says:

    Yup, Brooks Orpik hit him from behind.

    I guess there was a bit of history between Cole and Orpik. Orpik did receive a 3 game suspension

  80. Habfan4lfe says:

    Get ready to be disappointed then. It’s a phone interview, there wont be more than a few games. Let’s not forget here it’s Colin Campbell and his kid plays on Boston. You can be guaranteed it will be as lenient as possible. This is what you get when you hire a former cheap shot artist to hand out discipline.

    The NHL is led by an idiot who hired another idiot. Who hired a whole crew of idiot refs.

  81. Graves says:

    Yeah, that was Orpik on Cole, hit from behind into the boards. Got three games. Cole has never been the same.

  82. kmachabs27 says:

    where can i get a link to that picture….it says it all.

  83. BoomBoom says:

    My thoughts and prayers are with MaxPac. I hope a) he recovers his health to lead a normal life and b) he can one day resume his promising career. The fact that his season is over and the Habs lost their best forward over the last few weeks is irrelevant. I just want to hear that MaxPac is on the way to recovery and to resuming his career, even if takes 1 year.

    To Chara, you disgusting piece of —— you and your —- family. You know what you did was on purpose. How do you feel, ruining a young man’s health and career because of slight push in the back after a game. I know the league will give you slap on the wrist, but one day karma will give you a punch in the face, you —–scumbag. Payback is a b*tch.

    To those that blame the victim, —-you too! It’s always the victim’s fault. Stupid mentality, give the criminals free pass. Involuntary homicide is still homicide!

    To Claude Julien..go—-yourself you fat ugly —-…you created an environment of bad blood, you put fuel on the fire with your stupid comments…The day you leave the NHL for good, will be a great day for the NHL. You are a loser!

    To the Bruins, you are a bunch of classless pieces of sh*t…Boychuck way to fight with a visor, you still lost. Marchand, shut your —- pie hole, your comments are irrelevant, Lucic want to fight Pouliot at the end of the game, way to go once again picking your spot, —-you too a$$hole. to the rest of the bruins, may you never ,never ever win a cup again. A curse on your franchise.

  84. Ian Cobb says:

    If you feel like I do, and want to do your small part for our deteriorating sport. And save a life. Then here is where you send your complaint.

    NHL head office ,Garry Bettman’s Fax # is 212-789-2020—E-mail–

    After that, if you were at the game and witnessed the hit, call a police officer and lodge a official complaint and have Chara charged. Anyone who was there can do this. Please stand up for our kids and our game. If you need a buck to have him charged, I will help. Ian

  85. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Anything short of a 5 game suspension will be a disgrace. Listening to the SOB after the game he somehow blames Max Pac for the injury. Big, strong & talented player Chara is. Short fuse & vindictive, he sure is. He never forgave Max Pac for the shove he received in January after Max potted in the winner in OT. Revenge was on his mind and people who say he did not mean to hurt him are full of it. Just look at the extension of his arm prior to the hit. If that isn’t intent, oh well.

  86. BJ says:

    Because Chara’s audience with the NHL is via telephone it would normally be under 5 games. I think six or more games calls for a face to face in Toronto. So I guess it will be south of 6 as reported it will be via telephone. It should be at least 10. I hope the NHL have enough brains that this was payback for the small push Chara received three games back. When you look at that event it really is out of proportion with what went down last night.

  87. Rudy says:

    Wasn’t Eric Cole hurt and broke his neck a few years ago? Anyone know if there was a suspension on the person that hit him?

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  88. Habsrule1 says:

    What I am dissapointed in here is everyone being so quick to dismiss opinions unless they are the same as theirs.

    Bob MacKenzie, Elliotte Friedman and I are pretty smart and just cause we think the hit was not as malicious as some of you do, our opinions are “disgusting”.

    Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  89. oshawahabsfan says:

    No doubt in my mind that fat bastard Julien had something to do with this. He’s the type who would tap Chara on the shoulder and say “go teach that kid a lesson in respect” and Chara having the intelligence of a bag of nails interpereted it as such. The picture above and the video make it perfectly clear this was intentional. He didn’t just shove him, he guided him in with his arms to ensure he’d hit that spot dead on

  90. SPATS says:

    I fear Patches will never be the same. I hope I’m wrong. Lost in all of this was Boychuk’s closed left eye. Well done, Ryan. Chara’s size gives him an unfair advantage. And ever since the harmless shove at the end of another epic Habs win, his dangerously fragile ego has been seeking revenge. So avoidable, yet so inevitable. Macho must rule. He’s been chasing MaxPac for weeks as witnessed in the thumping in Beantown. His enormous size coupled with his fragile ego have now resulted in a tragic ending. He was headhunting all the way. Plain and simple. The picture doesn’t lie… he knew where they were headed, he was in the drivers seat steering. Best wishes to Max’s parents. The only bright spot…It could’ve been worse. I thought he was dead.

  91. Favorite Son says:

    If it’s not at least 7-10 games I’ll be really disappointed.

  92. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I certainly respect everyone’s right to an opinion, but I think a lot of the anger you are hearing comes from a place of frustration against a culture and staid establishment that refuses to acknowledge some brutal things that are happening to these kids. Whether Chara’s hit was malicious or not is irrelevant to me. There’s a kid whose family had to watch that — and I just don’t see why we need it in the game. Violent hits are unnecessary. And, as you said, there are a lot of pretty smart people in the League. I’m sure they can figure out a way to keep this sort of thing out of the game (along with the hits to Savard, Crosby etc, etc,) while keeping good hard, strategic hits in the game.

    The players seem to be finding a loophole in the League’s stance now — intent.  Steckel got away with knocking the best player in the world out because it was difficult to discern whether he intended to or not. Chara is going to get off on the same thing. So what has to change, in my opinion, is the culture that allows for that. Intent be damned, we don’t want young kids being sent to the hospital unnecessarily.  These are not machines being sent out there for our entertainment, they are kids with families.  So let’s focus on trying to protect them a bit more and stating that we categorically do not want this sort of violence as a part of our game.

  93. CHsam says:

    Sorry All for my comments last night.Overboard.

    Anyways, I too thought he was dead for a good minute there. 


  94. adamkennelly says:

    Bob and Elliott are smart – if you were so damn smart you would understand that they have to take that position since its their job to be “objective”…how often do you see reporters of their stature take a hard stance against anything with respect to a player or the league – they go with the flow.  Since we already know the punishment will not be severe because its Chara – they started building their case immediately to be in line with what we all know will happen…give me a brake- seriously – watch some clips, Chara is an angry bully with a short fuse…he knew exactly what he was doing.  I would never say he was trying to severly hurt him but he was definately punishing him for past transgressions…




  95. DearyLeary says:

    Not sure as to the validity of the comment, but someone posted earlier that phone disciplinary meetings don’t generally exceed 5 games.

  96. Malreg says:

    One of the first things that ran through my mind when this happened was the Latvian luger at the Vancouver Olympics last year.

  97. DearyLeary says:

    My guess would be 2 games at best, 0 at worst.

  98. boing007 says:

    Richard R

    All those TSN/CBC etc analysts are full of you know what. Chara zoomed right in on Pacioretty like a hawk swooping down from afar on a potential prey, arriving at top speed, wrapping his right hand aound Max’s midsection and raising his left hand up flush on the right side of Max’s face, guiding him straight into the barrier. He hit him from behind as well. He deserves at least a season ending/no playoffs suspension.

  99. BJ says:

    This is just in. Pac still in hospital under strict observation. They will keep him in the hospital again today + as they are making more tests regarding his neck and spine. Source CKAC.

  100. oshawahabsfan says:

    Well considering the networks they work for, they have an agenda. I usually think Bob is the one who has an good idea of what the NHL should do in terms of punishment but he is so far off here it’s ridiculous. He can’t actually believe what he wrote

  101. Mattyleg says:

    Since there are so many furrowed brows and frowns, on a lighter note, we think that NHL refs are bad?!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  102. Malreg says:

    That is correct.  The NHL must give the player an in-person hearring for a suspension to be 6 games or more.  The player can waive their right to an in-person hearring, but it must be offered to them, so the maximum Chara can get is 5.

  103. TheDagger says:

    Would love to hear what Gomez was saying to Chara after that sick display.

  104. Bugs says:




  105. yves_on_habs says:

    Let’s see what NHL office does. 

    I’m still disgusted.

    – Yves –

  106. ZepFan2 says:


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  107. Mattyleg says:


    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  108. Jordio-oh says:

    All of the talk about “intent” is annoying to the point of nausea.

    Listening to Nick Kypreos and Doug MacLean on the Fan590 currently talking about how its impossible to go into Chara’s head to find out his intent.


    It was a careless, reckless play and he should be punished accordingly.  This is big news all over the league and its the leagues chance to step up and send a message that they care about their players.

    If you play 900 games in the league you’re well aware of where you are on the ice. Watch the video, check the pictures. He knew what he was doing. And even if you think he didn’t, it was still an outrageous play.

    A two game suspension will be a disgrace.

  109. LA Loyalist says:

    “I’m going to put Gionta up on my shoulders, man, and then you’re going to be really, really sorry.” — S. Gomez.


    Sorry, I’m so angry I have to make bad jokes. I’ve told this story before, but no one remembers it. Buffalo, Jose Theodore is our goalie, gets run over by some Buffalo goon — who takes on the goon for us? Dougie Gilmour. All 5′ 10″ of him, wet with a tailwind. Gilmour has the heart of a lion, as does Kirk Muller, another good Kingston boy. Much as I’d love a Chris Nilan, it ain’t available, give me 20 Doug Gilmours and Kirk Mullers and we would be just fine.

    I am still praying for Pax. The effects of these thing don’t always show immediately. Let’s see what the league does…

  110. wd40 says:

    Randy Tieman, it’s completely IRRELEVANT that “Chara didn’t intend to hurt Pacioretty as badly as he did”…   If I take a brutal and and pre-meditated action against another player, I am responsible.  Period.  End of story.  

    I think i’m losing my mind over this… and I haven’t even heard the official word from the NHL on the ‘wrist slap’ yet.

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  112. kempie says:

    For fuck’s sake man, not now. Take your wall of text nonsense somewhere else you moronic trolling douchebot.

  113. HabinBurlington says:

    Yup, and then for toppers that F’ing meathead Kypreos and Richie Rich basically gave Chara a free pass on it.  That network is absolute Shite, and should be banned by the CRTC for wasting airwaves.

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  115. crunched says:

    probable’ something like I would hit you but I am scared . You are a big and bad I”m not. Gomez = puss. Clean hit brother..

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  117. boing007 says:

    Richard R

    I agree with you completely Joshua94k. We should all petition the NHL and demand that Chara be suspended for the rest of this season, plus the playoffs.

  118. light_n_tasty says:


  119. MadApe says:

    I typed the original comment in MS Word to spell check it and copied and pasted…hence the gobbly gook at the top that can not be removed from this end.

  120. wd40 says:

    There will be no justice served today.  I believe to my core that Chara knew exactly what he was doing, and did it to great — if not tragic — effect.  He took no responsibility for it, calling the incident and ‘unfortunate’ accident.  Shame on you, Zdeno. 

    I wish Max a speedy recovery, and hope to see him flying around the ice very soon, yet sadly we know we have lost an exciting and talented top-6 forward for what remains of the 2010-11 season.   Max you will be sorely missed.

    I am proud to call myself a Habs fan.  


  121. joshua94k says:

    As a captain of a team you have to set an example. As a professional athelete, you have to set an example to the youth who want to play in the NHL. Zedno Chara made an ugly illagal hit on Max Paccioretty.

    Chara took three strides after Pacioretty cleared the puck.  FACT

    Chara skated with full speed and raised his arms and elbow. FACT

    Chara had time to think through his actions. FACT.

    The intent to deliberately injure was there. The NHL has to protect its players and treat everyone equally. What if it was Crosby or Stamkos or Ovechkin who got hit like that by Chara. How would the leage respond.

    Chara deserves to be suspended for the remainder of the season and play-offs without pay. This is the NHL’s chance to take a stand on illegial hits ot the head.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  122. Propwash says:

    The NHL needs a major overhaul from top to bottom. Thanks for ruining a great game, and a great night with the gang at Hurleys Chara, ya frikin bum.

  123. MadApe says:

    with the net result in someone else getting taken out the next time that these two teams meet. If the NHL Brass can’t do the right thing then the police and justice system need to. If they won’t get involved then the league will only have themselves to blame when a star Bruin is cross-checked in the face or hit headfirst into the boards.

  124. HabFanSince72 says:

    he players who give out those hits have no remorse and have nothing holding them back because of one reason: THE NHL.

    Hear hear.

    Game after game players are injured as a result of intimidation. The NHL either does nothing or slaps the offender on the wrist. Brendan Gallagher was also having a breakout year in Vancouver, until he was concussed by an illegal hit.

    The real culprits are Colin Campbell and the league, and all the old fucks who run hockey.

    Another thing: their understanding of intent. If you feel remorse afterwards, or if the injury is worse than you intended, it doesn’t let you off the hook. The way the analysts talk about it this was no more than a practical joke gone wrong. A freak accident.


  125. habsonly says:

    Good morning HOI. I don’t usually comment as I like to keep my thoughts to myself but am an avid reader. But after what I witnessed last night seeing Max lay motionless on the ice after that devastating careless hit against the post ala Chara I need to say someting. As a longtime fan of the Habs and the game, (as Ian said earlier) since back in the day of no helmets, I am very concerned with the game today and where it is heading. The current NHL administration is ruining the greatest game and making the NHL a complete joke. That was one of the most careless cowardly acts I have seen. What happened to respect towards your fellow man, in this case players. Back in the day if a player chipped the puck up ahead of you and gained a step on you the usual way to react was to trip him. In todays NHL it is f..k it and hit the SOB as hard as you can. Body checks were and are supposed to be a way to take the puck away from an opposing player not to eliminate or destroy someone. There is no respect left in this game. If the NHL does not do something NOW to get the game back to where it used to be I am really not interested in watching this crap. If it weren’t for the Habs I would have stopped long ago. Chara and anyone who hurts another player with this kind of disregard needs to serve time and not 1 or 2 games but 10 as a minimum. A message has to be sent and understood that this type of play is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. I am hoping right now that Max will be ok and not have any lasting effects from this cowardly act. I hope that Max has a speedy and sucessful recovery, Get well Max!! Shame on you Chara, you are like the school yard bully, remember this Chara show no respect get no repect.

  126. Habsrule1 says:

    Another perspective:

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  127. DearyLeary says:

    I’m no fan of Friedman, but the article is pretty accurate.  The respect issue is overblown, and injuries are resulting due to the fact that athletes are just geting bigger, stronger, and faster.

    What I don’t buy is the fact that this play was illegal no matter where it occured on the ice.  When a penalty results in serious injury there has to be consequences, or the rules don’t mean anything; then thugs like the Bruins can go about their business and fight and injure their way to winning games with no fear of repercussion. 

    I had a terrible night sleep last night… and the fact that Chara’s actions are being boiled down to ‘well jeez, he’s such a swell guy’ is sickening.  

  128. HugeHabsFan says:

    Pacioretty is from Conneticut though…but hey – that’s close to Boston, so maybe Cherry will cut him some slack.


    “Thank you Cammy for making my day even more amazing!”


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  129. MadApe says:

    Something tells me that you need to drop the word ‘class’ from your comment. Chara has none!

  130. riksha99 says:

    Sickened to see Max-Pac lying motionless on the ground.

    Let’s look at the evidence to figure out if Chara merits a suspension and for how long.

    The evidence:
    -history between the 2 players = yes
    -did the history affect the play = uncertain
    -did Chara drive Pacioretty’s head = yes

    -did the action merit a penalty upon further review = yes, indicating that the act is considered not acceptable as part of the game

    -is Chara intimately familiar with the rink = yes, having spent thousands of hours as a professional hockey player.  If Chara didn’t know where he was (and I find that extremely hard to believe) then at the very least he should have. 

    -did Chara deliberately drive Max-Pac into the stancheon = he was not looking at the stancheon, but a caveat here is that if you shoot someone point-blank and look away doesn’t take away from the severity of the action, that being that the trigger was pulled 

    A fair punishment for the act would be that Chara be suspended until Pacioretty returns and barring that at least five games.  Unfortunately, the NHL will suspend relative to other acts not realizing that their base line has totally skewed and we’ll likely see two-three games.


  131. mike g says:

    Couldn’t breathe last night, couldn’t eat and couldn’t sleep….

    Was convinced, our most gifted young scorer, enjoying a breakthrough year which would help him become an elite force in this league,  was done. Rarely have we seen a young, bright star jump up onto OUR team and progress this quickly. He was on the fast track, in probably a year or 2, of becoming one of few 30-40 goal scorers in this game. And then, bang….

    We can debate the hit all we want, prove that it was done for x and y reasons. Bottom line is, the players who give out those hits have no remorse and have nothing holding them back because of one reason:

    THE NHL.

    When you know that you can do anything, and get away with it, why not do it?

    Thats where the problem is. Not the gesture, because people have been stupid since this world was created, and they’ll continue to be. But that’s why rules and consequences are created, to stop the stupid from happening.

    And it’s sad, but our favorite sport and life passion encourages the stupid.

    Even if, and this won’t even happen, Chara gets 10 games, big whoop. It’s a bigger loss for our team than it is for theirs. Well worth the gesture if you’re a Bruin. Take out a top prospect for a whole year on a big rivals team, and you’ll be back in time for the playoffs.

    I’d do it, and that’s why other will too.

    And it won’t stop, today’s ruling will be proof of that.

    There’s a big hole in the culture of the game of hockey and those who manage it. There always was, and always will be.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  132. MadApe says:

    Someone who was in attendance and witnessed this needs to call the local police and lodge a complaint so that a Crown Attorney can investigate and hopefully criminally charge Chara for this deliberate and vicious assault. This was an assault that was cold and calculated. I have watched all of the videos and it is obvious to me.


  133. DearyLeary says:

    Too bad none of those knuckleheads can read French.

  134. adamkennelly says:

    Chara is a world class professional hockey player – Norris trophy question whether or not he knew what he was doing on the ice is ridiculous…anyone play hockey here?  you know what you are doing..he knew what he was doing and who he was doing it to….so this makes him a dirty, cheap, immature, lying coward – who just had to get back at Pax for a little shove earlier in the season.

  135. Bugs says:

    Voting time on NESN.
    Nail’em, my brothers and sisters, nail’em what good.

  136. Habs Proud says:

    Absolutley disgusting! Chara should be gone indefinitley, I can appreciate that Zdeno Chara is a very skilled defenceman, yes he has size and uses very well to his advantage, but that has nothing to do with what happened last night. His actions last night were without a doubt an intent to injure, it is no different than an open ice blindside hit to the head, had it been a shoulder on shoulder then at least  Pacioretty would perhaps been able to move his head enough to lessen the hit to a glancing blow, human nature makes us do that automatically. Chara hand made sure that couldn’t happen! This needs to be addressed, I don’t care that Chara is the Bruins captain, I don’t care he puts on the big show at the skills challenges, he is a GOON, he is no different than Trevor Gillies he just happens to have a little more skill.

  137. Habsrule1 says:

    I’m good with believing this was intent to injure.

    The problem is there is no absolute for this one. Intent to injure can be seen as obvious when the play is not moving, ie: stick to the had, cross-check from behind, generally when one or both players are immobile. With this play, the league cannot say for 100% certainty that there was intent to injure due to the speeds the players were moving at.

    I’ll probably get jumped on for this post, but I’m just trying to look at it from an outsider’s point of view. Despite the intent to injure not being proven, it is my opinion that he deserves 5, maybe 10 games for what he did based on the recklessness of the play.

    I fear he’ll get no more than 2. Please think about this before reacting.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  138. avatar_58 says:

    Laraque would know about good hits right? Like when he stuck his leg out to get a knee on knee? Stop publishing that clown already, and for F sakes he’s not a “former hab” – he’s a former Oiler. He played very little for the habs.

  139. DearyLeary says:

    Because he lives by “The Code”.

  140. HabFanSince72 says:

    Laraque defends CHara:



    Why is this bozo’s opinion even worth publishing?

  141. cynic says:

    Hey Mattyleg, you find talk more unpleasant than violence?  And you tell us to get some perspective?  Sheesh, get a grip here…

  142. HabsFanMTL says:

    actually Cherry takes up for Canadian Kids….and fortunately but sadly he is a prejudice Azz and will most likely chop down chiara

  143. Mattyleg says:

    That’s a bold statement.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  144. Ian Cobb says:


    I would realy like everyone to read this link. I sent it to Gary Bettman’s office and the players assosiation.

  145. Jonson says:

    oops, that was supposed to be a reply, it was referring to signing Nolan.

  146. Velavok says:

    Disgusting, get this garbage out of the game. Sick to the pit of my stomach on this. Chara should be suspended the rest of the year and playoffs. The league says they are tough on head shots, this is a deliberate attempt to injure, he ran his head directly into a pole after the play was up ice.

    This reminds me of the McLaren attack on Zednik. The feeling was the same for me then as it is now. The sickness in my stomach, the frustration, the feeling that no matter how much they discipline the guy that it can never be enough to make up for what a heinous act has taken away.

    After the downs of the last few years it was great to see Pac breakthrough this year, I am so happy for the guy and what he has shown this year. I wish him a speedy recovery.



  147. Mattyleg says:

    What I find marginally more unpleasant than Chara’s hit is the current hysteria surrounding Habs fans.

    Get some perspective please. Some of the things being written make us look very bad as fans. It’s not a witch hunt.

    Step away and take a deep breath.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  148. Fansincebirth says:

    Tonya Harding and her hubby/bf may be available….for a price :)

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  149. longtimehabsfan says:

    More from

    When can an athlete return to play following a concussion?
    Although guidelines are useful, every case must be considered individually. The following guidelines are only a reference to consider–each patient who sustains a concussion must be evaluated by their physician before being cleared to return to activity!

    In general, athletes will be allowed to return to play according to the following schedule:


    • For Grade I Concussions:
      The athlete can return if they are asymptomatic for at least 15 minutes.


    • For Grade II Concussions:
      The athlete can return to play after one week, if asymptomatic during that time period.


    • For Grade III Concussions:
      The athlete is removed from competition and transported to the emergency department. Length of time out of competition can be discussed with the physician.

    All patients who sustain a concussion must not return to play until cleared by someone trained in management of these injuries (e.g. the team physician). Foremost, any athlete should not return to play until ALL symptoms have resolved. Even a mild headache should exclude a player from returning to competition. Athletes who sustain multiple concussions must not return to play until properly evaluated. In general, athletes who sustain three concussions, no matter what grade, will be removed from competition for at least one season. The dangers of multiple concussions are not well understood, but athletes, coaches, and team doctors must be willing to play it safe.

  150. Hobie Hansen says:

    The game the Bruins play is just disgusting. I don’t know if they listen to the idiotic reporters who cover them on television and in the papers and think that’s how you play the game? The Bruins and their coach embrace the role of playing intimidators and act like the NHL is the second cousin of the UFC.
    I love watching a good fight in a hockey game and love when games get intense but the way the Bruins and Flyers play is just ridiculous. They are blatantly trying to injure other players and their main purpose is to fight. To me it looked like the Bruins didn’t care about the score in the game and their main goal was to intimidate and injure the Habs.
    If the NHL doesn’t take a look at teams like the Bruins and Flyers and send them a stern warning to concentrate playing the game and cutting out the crap, I guess the only answer is for the Habs to go out and get a pile of Goons to take shots at their star players!
    The league isn’t going to police it so what else are we supposed to do? Watch our players get run at and beat up all night?

  151. longtimehabsfan says:


    Grade III: A severe concussion, when there is a loss of consciousness and no memory of the event.


    According to this definition Max Pac suffered a LOC and cannot recall the event.  Also, his agent says there is no bleeding in the brain, which is significant. 

  152. bolder says:

    Chara is a f***ing scumbag …. Eye for an eye. Hopefully he gets his one day.

  153. shiram says:

    This will make the news all over America, and the League needs to show it is serious about head injuries, not just hits to the head, but head injury. They would need to make a stand and prove to the world that they are serious about protecting their players, and punishing the players at fault.

    I doubt that they will though, as per rules it might not be considered such a dirty hit, they’ll blame the ice rink configuration, or say if it happened somewhere else it would have been ok, but a penalty.

    But Chara is a world class hockey player, has tons of nhl experience, and should be well aware of where he is on the rink. He even is their captains. He should havw known where he was, that Max didnt have the puck anymore, that there was only 15 or seconds remaining and that basically they has already lost the game. I’m not sure about intent to injure, but there was definite intent to harm and hurt.

    His suspension will most likely be a joke, a weak slap on the wrist, and the NHL will look even more like a joke than they already do.


  154. HabFanSince72 says:

    Intimidation. This is how the Bruins play.

    The only two organizations I know of that use the words “send a message” to mean do violence to someone: the NHL and the mafia.

  155. Jonson says:

    no simply cause they are missing a top 6 foward, he is very talented and is tough and also has a lot of experience. why whouldnt you want him for cheap?

  156. DearyLeary says:

    If anyone’s got a ski mask, a tire iron, and a ticket to Boston I’d be glad to help.

  157. NightRyder says:

    The absurd caricature that is Donald S. Cherry will come on Coach’s Corner on Saturday night.

    He will say something along the lines of “tough luck,” Chara meant no harm and the hit will appear on Rock ‘ em Sock ’em 345 or whatever.

    The vast majority of the halfwits out there who actually think the old dinosaur is still relevant will nod in agreement; the NHL office staff will breathe a sigh of relief; Colie Campbell can stop whispering “please be nice to my boy’s team” nonsense into Mike Murphy’s ear; Count Chocula will smugly slip in his shoe lifts and business will continue as usual.


  158. lavie says:

    Any person, group or organization can make Chara disappear from NHL, I will appreciate, support and donate if needed.

  159. Bill says:

    Pacioretty’s American, so Cherry can stick with his Bruins.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  160. RGM says:

    Or at least drop the “cl”

    Go Habs Go!

  161. Gorges_the_great says:

    How is clean even an option? It was obviously not clean hence the interference penatly. A more reasonable poll would be malicious or not malicious.

  162. Bugs says:

    Don’t tell me; tell them.

  163. boing007 says:

    Richard R

    If you’re upset about what happened to Max P why would you then say that you would have done the same thing as Chara did? The best competition is when both teams have their best players healthy, not when the best players are in the emergency ward in a downtown hospital, on six month rehab, or had their career suddenly ended. You’re not making any sense.

  164. krob1000 says:

    Trevor Gillies just got 10 games for hitting Cal Cklutterbuck from the side with his shouloder first…clutterbucks head hit the glass….the photo says it all….itnentional or not it was a head shot and nowhere near the play….the term “hit” is inappropriate….it was not a hit…it was a headshot away from the play…..

    Thyis crap about it being an unfrotunate place on the ice?/ waht the hell is that? so should htis from behind be ok…they are in the middle of the rink, guys get shoved all of teh time…BUT ..when they are near the boards they are dirty, when you hold a guys head and guide it into a stanchion you deserve a huuuuge  penalty….this is disgusting…

    The double standards are ridiculous…avery makes a comment and gets more than this a possiblele career and even life altering injury? it is stupid.

  165. shiram says:

    Great stuff, a sobering read.

  166. SeriousFan09 says:

    Not just rehashing the hit, examining the implications of a hit that the league is going to wrist-slap and my thoughts about what it means for the game.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  167. notbigbird says:

    Good article.

  168. LNev says:

    If Gill took out Marchand or Bergeron in a similar type play “We” would all say it was follow through, part of a hockey play, unfortunate but unintentional… Time served or *MAYBE* a game or two because it was dangerous, and they are cracking down, or want to appear as such.  We’d say that Gill is a clean player, a veteran who plays the right way with no previous record or reputation…

    If Chara took out Komisarek like this instead of “our” Max, well, we sure wouldn’t be too fired up about it.  I don’t want to say we’d be laughing, but i don’t think there’d be pages of discussion on HIO.



  169. Big Bird says:

    Couple of cents from the peanut gallery:

    1. Very proud of how our team played.  In spite of seeing a valued team mate lying on the ice.  No one expected this team to make the playoffs especially with Halak traded.  And when Markov and Gorges went down…well forget about it.

    2. I’ll admit I wanted Boucher to be the coach but Martin and his team have done a good job.  Credit due to Cunneyworth and the coaches in Hamilton for preparing our youngsters to insert seamlessly in the lineup. 

    3. Whether this team goes far or not in the playoffs doesn’t matter to me.  Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see the passion of last spring but they (exception of some players) are playing their hearts out.  

    4. The Pacioretty hit disgusts me.  If I had confidence that the NHL would do the right thing and punish Chara I would say let them handle it.  But he’s not Cooke or Gilles.  He’s the captain and norris trophy winning defenseman.  If he gets anything it will be 2 games.  I’ve always said that if a player injures another then they should sit out the same period of time until the player returns.  And if they don’t (i.e. Steve Moore) then your hockey career is over.

    5. The hypocrisy blows me away.  Savard gets drilled by Cooke and the Bruins are outraged.  Chara injures a player and they say ‘it was unfortunate’.  So criticize me if you must but I’m tempted to believe in the theory that if they pull a knife, we pull a gun.  Chara takes out Pacioretty.  We take out Krejci.  Simple.  Call up Conboy for the next game.  If the league will not protect the players then what do they expect people to do?

    6. I also wondered what would happen if the reverse occurred and Hall Gill took out Marchand.  I’d expect the same punishment to occur.  I never liked players like Claude Lemieux who were dirty.  Whether they wear the CH or not.

    7. I wish Pacioretty a quick recovery.  There is more to life than hockey and I hope this hit doesn’t impact him badly down the road.  


  170. Ian Cobb says:

    Big Bird, some great points and comments. I think Max’s career is now in jeopardy. Very severe concussion and a break in his neck.

  171. DavidKB says:

    I’m living with someone who, while playing ball hockey with her students at school was accidentally knocked down hitting her head on the ground. That happened on March 4th 2010. She was off work until October 2010 when she started back part time. She is now teaching full time, but still suffers symptoms of the concussion that resulted from her head bouncing off the pavement twice. 

    Max and anyone else who has suffered a concussion will have longterm issues. The only question is how severe. I fear that Max will never be the player he is supposed to be.

    This is just sad, and made worse for Canadiens fans because Max was showing us all that he could back up his claims of being a top 6 player in the NHL, and would rather play in the minors than be a bottom 6 player with the Habs.

    No amount of money can compensate for a compromised or shortened life caused by such head injuries.

  172. naweed235 says:

    I know man… it would truly be a sad day in habs history if he cannot make it out ok… it’s so sickening to think that a young mans life is at stake because a big moron seeking revange for a back shove

  173. light_n_tasty says:

    I know, it’s ridiculous. It’s like saying “c’mon, it was just a little shove…sure, he was standing at the edge of a 200-foot gorge with man-eating tigers at the bottom, but if it was anywhere else I wouldn’t have been charged with murder!”

  174. HabsChick says:

    The most ridiculous statement I’m hearing is, “if this play were anywhere else it’d be a legal hit & a non-issue”.

    Really?  A  boarding hit that happens at centre ice is a clean hit too and unpunishable but the point is, it happens in a dangerous spot and that’s what makes it both dangerous and suspendable.

    As a player, it is your responsibility to know where you are on the ice and where your opponent is when you hit them.

    Chara may be an oaf but playing dumb doesn’t cut it here.  He needs to be held accountable.  Period.

  175. DearyLeary says:

    It’s an interference penalty anywhere on the ice (whether it gets called is another issue altogether for the knuckleheads the NHL employs).  A penalty that results in an injury, an extremely serious one at that, needs to be treated accordingly.

  176. carolinahab says:

    Spent the morning reading various opinions and here is my two cents worth. The NHL nor any other sports body is capable of determining intent to injure, so throw it out the window. Is Chara a dirty player? While a factor it is not the overriding consideration. The determining factor; was it a responsible play and if not what are the consequences to Max and Chara? Chara if unaware of his surroundings on the ice belongs off the ice. It was an illegal check wherein he extended Max over the boards at one of the most dangerous locations on the ice. If I drive recklessly and cause an accident it does not come down to whether I intended to put the other driver in the hospital but was I reckless and irresponsible.

  177. wd40 says:


    Unless you hook him up to a polygraph (even then, sometimes inconclusive) or are a mind-reader (uhh…) , the whole notion of trying to determine what someone INTENDED to do is ridiculous.   

  178. DearyLeary says:

    A reckless play, that is a penalty anywhere on the ice (interference) needs to be treated with the same seriousness that malicious play receives.

  179. Malreg says:

    Renaud Lavoie on Twitter:

    @: Severe concussion for Max Pacioretty. Neck injury. Possible fracture but that’s not confirm yet.

  180. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Where the f… are you guys getting this info about a break in his neck? Searched all over & found nothing. Unless you’re 100%, do not post garbage like that.

  181. SeriousFan09 says:

    RDS tweeted severe concussion and suspected fracture. Still waiting for Habs official word, RDS is usually a bit quick on the gun in these situations.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  182. HabFanSince72 says:

    It is being reported on the rds homepage.


  183. naweed235 says:

    I don’t know about you guys but I still feel sick from last night… I couldn’t even pay attention in my class so I left university for a walk … I’m the biggest habs and hockey fan that I know but today I feel like puking everytime I see something hockey related…normally at this point I’d be looking forward to the next game but now I’m not even sure I wanna watch it… 

  184. lavie says:

    You are not alone… A lot of fans need to recover from the shocking…

  185. naweed235 says:

    smArt dog said it best last night … I really follow the Habs with a passion and feel connected and close to them but the idea of Max not being able to continue on with his promising career or even his normal day to day life just sadens me to the outmost  extreme

  186. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    It’s been a tough day. There was a tweet going around saying that Patches’ parents were at the game. I can’t even imagine what they went through. No one should have this happen to them, especially in the game we all love. The League has to come out and clearly state that they don’t want this in the game.

    Let’s just hope that Patches is OK and this won’t have a lifelong effect.

  187. avatar_58 says:

    Same. I just want news that he’s out of the hospital and ok. Hockey or no, I don’t want to hear he’s going to have longterm issues

  188. BJ says:

    Latest news on Pacioretty. Severe concussion, injury to the neck as well as a possible fracture. Source RDS.

  189. Wops says:

    There was intent:


    Game 1 – Pacio shove:


    Game 2 – Chara pissed off, Chara runs after Pacioretty even if he’s fighting with someone:


    Game 3 – Then the hit,

  190. habsfannfld says:

    If you had a ‘pud’ who actually did his job, and was signed for the league minimum, then yeah it would work.

  191. wd40 says:

    On a different note, it’s real good to see the world’s highest-paid Alaskan hockey player kick it into a different gear as we head into the final stretch.  What’s not to like about the Eller trio (Larry’s got game!), and gotta love Price, who continues to be calm, smooth and rock-solid night after night. 


  192. athanor says:

    So, you hand out x number of games for intent (or apparent intent) and then increase  the suspension depending on the extent of the injury.


  193. habsguy says:

    K…what is Max wasn’t injured,  the intent was still there……no suspention????..thats my problem with the NHL,  they suspend the result,  not the intent!!

  194. kempie says:

    Very well said Ian. I too remember the no-helmet era. Players now toss around the word ‘respect’ when they get chirped at on the ice but think nothing of doing something like this. Whatever Chara’s intent or the outcome, I think a lot can be concluded about the nature of a human being when he is forced, within a matter of milliseconds,  to make an important decision regarding the safety of an opponent. This would never have happened in the 70s and, yes the game has changed. But even considering the changes, can you see Ray Borque making the same decision? Lidstrom? Orr? No. This stuff is the domain of Cooke, Richards and now Chara. Disgraceful POS that are ruining this game.

  195. Fansincebirth says:

    Hey Ian…

    I said pretty much the same thing to my son once….I remember the days of hard hits and fighting but there was NEVER the kind of head hunting that is going on in hockey now. I don’t buy into “the game is so much faster now” BS. No, the game is filled with players who are intentionally trying to hurt other players and this is what Buttman is using to sell his BS game to the Neanderthals who love this brand of ‘hockey’.

    Congratulations Buttman, you have now created NASCAR on ice!

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  196. Fansincebirth says:

    Chara won’t take responsibility for the hit, Julien will back him up and the league will give him a slap on the wrist. All according to plan for Buttman and Colon.

    How soon they (Broon Fans) forget the Cooke – Savard incident…

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  197. SBAH says:

    and your solution is?

  198. Habs64 says:

    Max is done for this season and likely next as well.

  199. DearyLeary says:

    Same place I saw them report that he has a severe concussion, possible neck fracture, and was cut.  When was the last time you heard anyone in sports referred to as being severely concussed?

  200. Richard B says:

    In that Pic Chara is even leaning his head away from the glass. Not hard to tell that he is aware its there.

    Richard B

  201. Captain aHab says:

    Sydney Crosby ring a bell? The Neanderthal Hockey League doesn’t give a shiot about anything else than trying to have teams survive in ridiculous US markets.

  202. Ian Cobb says:

    I was so upset last night that I had a hard time sleeping. I am even more angry this morning. I grew up watching this game when there were no helmets worn and players played the game with heavy body checks. But they had respect for one another. And any hit to the head or intent to drive someones head into anything, was not tolerated by fellow team mates.

    The word respect is becoming a lost art in our society, not only on the hockey rink. You see it every day in our youth, and it must change. When people cross the line, they have to pay the price, but unfortunately, if you have money and layers around you, you can get away with even causing death. They would candy coat it as an accident, and bring a ton of paid phony experts to confuse.

    Any contact to the head is NO Fu….. Accident. There should be ZERO tolerance for this type of assault anywhere.

    Big money surrounds our (game) sorry, hockey business. And the big money protects everyone’s ass, but let’s start protecting heads. First by teaching respect, and enforcing respect.

    Lawmakers and law enforcers, get some backbone and do the right thing to protect people. I do not know why green money and yellow bellies, over rule in today’s society.


  203. Habs64 says:

    Chara celebrated the Bertuzzi/Moore incident Anniversary last night :((

  204. Mike D says:

    The amount of hatred I have for that fuc*in POS Chara and the rest of that POS organization cannot be described using words alone.

    – Honestly yours

  205. shiram says:

    This is a tough one this morning, emotions are interferring with alot of people’s judgement, and I can only be glad that the news is not as bad as I feared for Max. Seeing him laying on the ice motionless for so long was a truly disturbing incident, and for a while it seemed like it could have the same end as what befell Owen Hart, which I saw live as well.

    Max is one heck of a touch kid, as we saw when he got hit by Wisniewski’s shot, and came back the next game, but I think he may be gone for the season, and maybe the playoffs as well, and I would not want to see him play again as long as there is any shadow of a doubt about his condition. His health must come first.

    I am also disgusted by alot of human beings, probably a mistake on my part, but I could not help myself, and went on the hfboards Bruins forums, and the things I saw posted there made me lose some faith in the human race, truly despicable.

    I lost alot of respect for the Bruins also, their comments before the game, insults really, the way they target players, the lack of class of trying to get a fight from our players in the third period… I honestly wished they had not even played the third period.

    But I was also glad to see some cooler and decent people out there, most people are wishing Max best wishes of prompt recovery.

  206. Chris F says:

    Where to begin. I still have a sick feeling in my stomach. I feel sorry for Max and his family. After this assault last night, I felt like turning off the television. I have been a Habs fan since birth, but seeing them play as an young boy in 1986 was majic. I have been teaching Physical Education for 10 years. I know all about the playground bully. Last nights game was simply revenge in the sweatest sense of the word, until the bully realised they couldn’t win. Then, invariably, the bully decides to hurt,injure, perhaps paralyse the smaller, quicker, faster, more talented opponent. If “I” can’t win, neither will you. It’s a no win situation for my beloved Habs. If we play excellent hockey, watch one of our future superstars developing perfectly into the poward forward we haven’t see since Corson, if we outscore, out skate, out think, and out class a team fully of goons, we will win, but……they can still have the last laugh.

    Sometimes there’s more to playing than just winning.

    I saw a quick camera feed on our Owner last night after the hit. He looked sick, I hope he felt as ill as I. I couldn’t sleep. This goes deeper than sport. Watching Thornton et al on the bench yapping and laughing at PK, watching Lucic challenge Benny, watching Horton get in PK’s face, it was disgusting. Not the act, but in the fact that all we can do is turn the other cheek. There comes a time in everyone’s life when they just have to stand up and say enough is enough. I’ve turned my head once or twice when a bully got what was coming to them, it’s life. Thornton, Lucic, Campbell, even Marchand, they need a dose of reality. We need someone who can put a stop to this. If not, what is the point. Our chances took a serious hit last night with Patches  gone, and he is not replaceable. Not even close.

    Something must be done, and I could care less what the NHL head office decides. We have to take care of our own players. Mr. Molson, I implore you, demand something is done this summer to address this evil.

  207. DearyLeary says:

    Chara ends a career and everyone just wants to say “aw shucks he’s a good guy”.

    Manslaughter isn’t just an accident.  Reckless play that results in injury should be treated accordingly, not brushed aside as an afterthought.


  208. SLYDER says:

    great article


    hilarious comments section – someone said, despite the picture at the top of the page AND the video – that Chara was merely doing his job by pushing his elbow into Max’s ribs to gain position….


    …it was montreal’s fault for designing such a terrible building


    I’ve been their several times…greatest building to watch hockey. PERIOD.

  209. Chuck says:

    Five games MAX because the hearing’s over the phone?

  210. adam76 says:

    Where did you get your medical degree?

  211. DearyLeary says:

    It’s offensive… people say the players have no respect, well it’s echoed by the league and their rules.  

  212. Fansincebirth says:

    If Luchump would have hit the glass like that, they would have replaced it and Luchump would have said “doh, sorry for breaking the glass…”

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  213. habstrinifan says:

    RDS (AS REPORTED BY TEAM990) is saying ‘severe concussion, cut and possible fracture’.

    Unfortunately it seems to be the worst case scenario. The terminology ‘severe concussion’ is not used lightly.

    Dont know what else to say.


  214. krob1000 says:

    go to tsn for poll at mid bottom of page and say chara 4 or more

    refresh and vote repeatedly…if we can make Komisarek an all star we can do anything!

  215. Malreg says:

    I can’t remember the specifics, but I’ve seen it before.  Any penalty can become a 5 minute major if the result of the penalty is an injury. 

  216. lavie says:

    Yes, it should be.

    Chara’s case is different from supposed Subban on Seguin. Everybody knows Chara wanted to hit and hurt MaxPac.

  217. DearyLeary says:

    Frankly, from the optics, and the reaction from LeBrun’s tweet this morning, he’ll be luck if he plays next year.  This year is out of the question.

  218. avatar_58 says:

    I get what you are saying and I don’t blame biased fans, but that doesn’t change what happened.

  219. Caballero says:

    It’s closer than I thought.

    Almost 50/50 but not quite which is to be expected I guess. I have asked myself if I would feel the same if Gill did this to Lucic, but then it’s Lucic. If Gill did this to Ryder or something, I would feel just as disgusted.

  220. Malreg says:


  221. DearyLeary says:

    Phone conferences normally mean a slap on the wrist, if anything is going to be done at all.  How do we best voice our displeasure with the NHL?  They need to know that this is unacceptable.  

  222. Ton says:


    a good read and a good perspective from a good franchise. they have been fun to play against for the last few decades, bobby orr was the greatest hockey player to play the game, and i am certain that he would not condone this. i don’t care about how many games, just want to kid to come back well…..i hope its not too much to ask for

  223. j2c says:

    Yes I would think PK deserves to be suspended, because we have to take these dirty plays and hits out of the league.

  224. kempie says:

    Humour me: For a second, let’s imagine that it was PK Subban who delivered this exact same hit to Tyler Seguin. How do you think that would play? Suspendable?

  225. SBAH says:

    NHL should impliment a “Tit for Tat” policy.

    The person who causes the injury sits out as long as the person who is injured, without pay.


  226. Dee says:

    My heart goes out to Max & his family.He has been playing such good hockey since he returned from Hamilton,he didn’t deserve this no player does.I was watching such a good game (4 to 0)Then Max was hit.When I saw him lying on the ice, first words out of my mouth OMG no.My stomch crumbled down to my toes.I still have a sick feeling in my stomach.I had to leave the room I couldn’t watch him lying on the ice any longer.As far as Chara goes it was revenge in my eyes for that little poke Max gave him.I will not say what I think of Chara or call him,I’m to much of a lady I will keep that to myself.Colin Campbell will not have anthing to do with this one because his son playes for Boston,Mike Murphy will do the talking,I guess the orders to Murpy will come from Campbell.He should get at least 5 games.I will be surprised if he gets any!Something has to change in the NHL,start with the equipment it’s like armour for heaven sakes. Wishing you a speedy recovery Max,take all the time you need it is only game.From a Great-Grandma xo xo

    Habs Fan 4 Ever & Ever Amen.

  227. BJ says:

    Agreed on that Ian. And who do we want to see play Crosby, Pacioretty or the Cooke’s, Thornton’s etc of this world. Seeing the NHL can’t police itself then there is probably no choice than to go out and get a deterrent. 

  228. Clay4bc says:

    Agreed on all – except one thing – Bobby Orr, while a great player, was certainly NOT the “greatest hockey player to play the game”.


    The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  229. adam76 says:

    I think we can all agree on the following two words – f*ck Boston.

  230. CalgaryHabsFan says:

    If the injuries are that severe then Chara should be suspended the rest of the season including playoffs.

    It wont happen of course but in a real league that would be the punishment.


  231. avatar_58 says:

    Kudos to Gomez for keeping his cool because if it were me, I’d have taken the suspension to “fix” Chara. I’m not proud of admitting that, but seriously….

  232. shiram says:

    Please… the guy didnt even say he was sorry, or tried to apologize. He even tried ducking the reporters at first…

    He hit him, and intent or not, he is responsible, and should act like it.

  233. matraque says:

    He did not tweet that.


    Canadien en 5! Never go Full Retard

  234. avatar_58 says:

    Great. Chara potentially ruins a kids career and won’t get a damn thing for it.

  235. Graves says:

    Crap. I read tweets last night that said no brain bleed, probably not a severe concussion, and no other injuries. Christ I feel terrible for the kid.

  236. j2c says:

    He did probably take him out for the rest of the season who knows if he will ever be the same player again….and all he probably will get is a slap on the wrist.

  237. Bugs says:

    I’m reposting Clichy’s excellent submission.

    Boston poll asks readers to vote whether hit was dirty or not. Thoughts?

  238. Fansincebirth says:

    Chara – “I can’t believe he leaned, jumped a little and actually tried to bash his face against first the glass extension and then the ice. I tried to stop him but he seemed intent on hurting himself. You see my point, right? It wasn’t my fault, it was his!”

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  239. habs4ever2894 says:

    Chara just took out one of our most promising forwards for the rest of the season and will probably not get anything for it. Its tough to be a fan of this league right now , It really is..

  240. Caballero says:

    Can someone please destroy Bob Mckenzie? I am usually a fan but on this issue he is wrong wrong wrong.Put pen to paper, or hands to keyboard and write a rebuttal.



  241. habstrinifan says:

    Can hardly look at this picture. It’s frightening both at the goonery of Chara ad the way Pac’s career could be threatened.

  242. Mr. Habs says:

    If it was a NHL Superstar instead of our Max that it happend to last night, the media would be calling for Bigfoot’s head!

  243. Fansincebirth says:

    Is this a fact? God, I hope not….

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  244. NightRyder says:

    The only reason they have made money under Count Chocula is the fact franchise values have experience a natural growth in value. In many cases that’s maxing out. Under Bettman’s watch, the league has found its way off of ESPN and onto Versus, where no one can find it. The Phoenix fiasco should be his ultimate undoing. The worst part of any hockey season for me is watching that smug little goblin wander out onto the ice to present the Stanley Cup.

  245. Psycho29 says:

    Bettman brings in money for the owners. That’s how he keeps his job. Unfortunetly, The only time he will go is if he retires or if the owners start losing money.

  246. shiram says:

    Oh I know, but it is difficult not to be enraged by such an attitude after the incident. The fact is, his hit on Max caused Max to hit the post, and it is Chara’s responsibility at that point. If he was any kind of man he would take responsibility.

  247. habsguy says:

    no,  that is stupid!!!!!

  248. Habs64 says:

    Lebrun tweet:Severe concussion for Max Pacioretty. Neck injury. Possible fracture but that’s not confirm yet.

  249. matrags says:

    heavens , stop and look at the picture. What will it take . No puck , hands clearly on head and of guys like , interference, and another concussion , stop the rationalization , this is assault causing bodily harm . When is enough enough . Tired of guys Like MacKenzie making excuses for flargrant acts of violence commited outside of the rules. Aaron , Boone , look at the picture and stop the rationalization.

  250. 123456 says:

    not to make light of the situation but, has anyone ever… EVER… seen a 5 minute major for interference?

    what is next a 5 minute major for too many men on the ice?

    and what was with the minor penaty against mara when he was cut on the face with a high stick? can someone explain? i was watching the NESN feed and all tey said was the penalty was for hooking and the bruins caught a break because mara was “leaking”.

    another rants – the too many men in the ice call was (first deserved bc you just can;t jump on the ice) questionable because all the time players hop on and as long as they do not make contact it’s let go – it’s no excuse but often that is not called (i say just call it evertime)

  251. Fansincebirth says:

    (pssst – what I typed was tongue in cheek)

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  252. Habs64 says:

    5 games maximum for phone hearing

  253. adam76 says:


  254. Mr. Habs says:

    The Mob needs to get a hold of Bigfoot a bust his knee caps!


  255. Mr. Habs says:


    AND that drunk driver didn’t maen to kill that family of 4 either

  256. NightRyder says:

    A picture is worth a thousand words.

    That said, Chara might get a couple of games, tops. It will take a Masterton-like incident for these assclowns to ever seriously address the issue of head shots. I have to say, I’ve always loved big hits, fights and the like, but watching Pacioretty (and it could have been a Bruin as well) lie there in full HD made me sick. I’d be amazed if he plays again this year.

    How Count Chocula (Bettman, not Martin) keeps his job given this type of stuff and the embarrasing spectacle that is the Phoenix Coyotes is beyond me. The smug little turd needs to go.

    NHL Corporate offices NY 212-789-2000

  257. Ton says:

    sad so sad. he was our shining light. i have watched hockey for 4o years and this guy has a skill that would have come through in the next 24 months. i mean this, first all star winger, so sad

  258. lavie says:

    Well said, Ian.

    I was shocked by seeing the scene.

  259. yves_on_habs says:

    I fail to understand why in some cases, like High Sticking, a player’s intent isn’t questioned…. a player’s height, size, strength doesn’t require measurement or debate….

    But with blind side hits… with hits from behind (in some cases)… and late hits in a clearly dangerous area like the Chara hit…. we have to try and psychologically analyze some point of intent.

    Players should be responsible for their actions.

    NHL should have more of a “results based” officiating system that reflects personal responsibility to actions committed.

    I’m tired of all the excuses.

    – Yves –

  260. DearyLeary says:

    Pierre Lebrun also tweeted a potential neck fracture.

  261. SeriousFan09 says:

    Lebrun is RT-ing what RDS reported though.

    As always, I wait for the Habs to give the full report.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  262. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Number one issue here is that I hope Patches is OK. I cannot imagine what his family went through last night and I wish him all the best. Get well soon Max!

    After calming down a bit from last night, I actually don’t want Chara’s head on a stake. Many have said it before me, so I’m not offering a revolutionary opinion here, but I think the whole culture of the League has to change. There is no reason whatsoever that we need hits that violent in the game. Surely there can still be good, hard, strategic hits that don’t jeopardize a person’s lifelong health.

    I also think using”intent” as the measuring stick for discipline is wrong.  I don’t care if Chara meant to or not (of course, I do, but I mean in terms of supplementary discipline I don’t). The League needs to send a message out saying, this is not a hit we want in our game. Does it become murky when you are trying to figure out what is OK and what isn’t?  Of course, but no more murky than trying to read Chara’s mind, which is what “intent” really is. (Potentially, as per RDS) Fracture a kid’s neck?  Unacceptable.  Unless it was a completely innocent, horrific fluke play. Which this wasn’t.

    “I was just trying to hit him hard, and ended up (potentially) fracturing his neck and giving him a severe concussion.” That’s essentially what Chara is saying, and people are OK with that?? 

    I certainly won’t be watching HNIC on Saturday.

    Apologies for the rant.

  263. SeriousFan09 says:



    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  264. dh says:

    That pretty much sums it up.

  265. Gorges_the_great says:

    That’s weird because Chara is a circus animal if I’ve ever seen one.

  266. jennifer1984 says:

    this is absolutely disgusting.



    i just found this on


    #1 – from Boston/Chicago on Mar 8, 2011 at 10:12 PM

    2 months ago to the date Charo remembers 1/8/2011:

    Sorry to see Max get hurt but this is a man’s sport and there is no room for girls or circus animals.





  267. HabsChick says:

    Absolutely agree.  But even the comment that if this happens anywhere else it’s a non-issue is rather ridiculous.  It’s akin to saying, if Patches wasn’t playing this wouldn’t have happen.  “What if’s” don’t work here.  It’s a desparate attempt to clear Chara of all wrong doing.

  268. Habsrule1 says:

    Hey cool….is this what the league is using to decide the suspension?

    Too bad TSN didn’t put 20 games and life as options.

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  269. krob1000 says:



    Help guys ..we are losing gorund tehre are obvioously some bruin fans doing the refresh thing too…..

    go to tsn for poll at mid bottom of page and say chara 4 or more

    refresh and vote repeatedly…if we can make Komisarek an all star we can do anything!

  270. Ian Cobb says:

    I was so upset last night that I had a hard time sleeping. I am even more angry this morning. I grew up watching this game when there were no helmets worn and players played the game with heavy body checks. But they had respect for one another. And any hit to the head or intent to drive someones head into anything, was not tolerated by fellow team mates.

    The word respect is becoming a lost art in our society, not only on the hockey rink. You see it every day in our youth, and it must change. When people cross the line, they have to pay the price, but unfortunately, if you have money and layers around you, you can get away with even causing death. They would candy coat it as an accident, and bring a ton of paid phony experts to confuse.

    Any contact to the head is NO Fu….. Accident. There should be ZERO tolerance for this type of assault anywhere.

    Big money surrounds our (game) sorry, hockey business. And the big money protects everyone’s ass, but let’s start protecting heads. First by teaching respect, and enforcing respect.

    Lawmakers and law enforcers, gets some backbone and do the right thing to protect people. I do not know why green money and yellow bellies, over rule in today’s society.


  271. Malreg says:

    Get ready to lose your mind then.  NHL did not ask for an in-person hearring, which automatically means that the suspension can only be a maximum of 5 games.

  272. Bugs says:

    Whatever you do then, don’t read Kevin Paul Dupont’s account.

    “On replay, it’s CLEAR the hit wasn’t dirty.”

    I haven’t found a similar quote anywhere else yet. Ballsy.

  273. habs4ever2894 says:

    Im so frustrated with how people are viewing the hit as clean!!!!!! Im trying to throw my habs fan bias out and look at the hit objectively and even when i do that the hit is dirty ! If the NHL doesn’t make the right move and suspend Chara for at least 8-10 games i will lose my mind. The hit was clearly intentional you can tell by a few of the replays and that picture above and thats not including the history between the 2 !!!!!! If Chara gets off with a slap on the wrist someone has got to take out that ugly giants knees, Call up Conboy and give him a mission briefing on exactly how to take out that piece of garbage. I cant stand how people on TSN are commenting on how us habs fans are crying over nothing , If it happened to leafs player Chara would not play till next year! 

  274. DearyLeary says:

    NHL Corporate offices NY 212-789-2000


    Keep it somewhere, because the NHL has to hear what we think after what will be an extremely disappointing result in the ‘disciplinary’ hearing this afternoon.

  275. Bugs says:

    I liked Chara’s explanation about how Pac-Man kinda “jumped” a little towards the stanchion.

    “I TRIED holding him back but he WANTED to bash his head against the turnbuckle!”

  276. coachdoug says:

    The photo says it all…Chara was not a dirty player before…but he just became one…look at his free hand…that’s not a rub out and anyone who has ever played knows that…

    The key thing to keep in mind is since the puck is not in play Max is not expecting what he gets and where he gets it…he driving towards the puck not expecting what comes next…dirty hit…

    Bob McKenzie is a well respected journalist…but he is a man watching the game like any of us…We can draw our own conclusions…I disagree with McKenzie’s take…look at the photo Bob…

    As far as Colin Campbell is concerned…the process is tainted while his kid plays for the Bruins…he should be put in some other job for the NHL…

    Good to see Ryan White step in and defend against the intimidation…not so tough when you gotta fight some one in your weight class eh Boychick…

    Lucic is a p#ssy with a capital P for going after Pouliot when he turned down BGL…and after what happened to Max…this guy has no respect for the game…


  277. twocents says:

    Ian, it’s clear he doesn’t lay off even one bit. Plus, his reaction afterward shows it was no accident. He didn’t mean to knock him out that badly, but he was sending a deliberate message. A f&$*ng dangerous and illegal one.

  278. Ian Cobb says:

    Just look at the bent bar, you cannot tell me he is not driving this kids head all the way into it. Cambell was at the game watching his son playing for Boston. If he does not give 20 games suspension, he should be fired.

  279. SeriousFan09 says:

    I like Bob Mckenzie for his knowledge of junior scouting and his impeccable sources RE trades and player signings but this is one thing that bothers me about him, his need to stay neutral and not call out dirty garbage.

    He doesn’t mind making excuses for dirty stuff. Chara is a veteran defencemen, he knew exactly where he was, he knows exactly how hard those turnbuckles can be and he gives Pacioretty a heavy shove (That he bloody well knows Pacioretty can’t get out of) and that’s the result. Reckless and intent.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  280. Gil says:


    I think Massarotti has it right. 



    “Go back and look, folks. Last week against Tampa Bay, Milan Lucic executed a similar hit on Dana Tyrell late in the first period. Tyrell hit the turnbuckle, too. The difference was that Tyrell got up and nobody was carried off, and so we all celebrated the hit and cited it as an example of playoff-caliber hockey.

    That hit was as every bit as ill-advised as this one. And so shame on all of us for focusing on the end result instead of the event that led up to it, which undoubtedly will result in Chara receiving some sort of well-earned, multi-game suspension.”


  281. habstrinifan says:

    While still upset, I was a little pleased to see that the Boston Globe writer, Mazerati, wrote a very honourable article on the hit.


    Good luck to Max Pac with his recovery.


  282. Hobie Hansen says:

    Before even mentioning the Chara hit you have to make mention of just how good the Canadiens played last night! They were absolutely flying out there and the type of game they played makes me believe they’re one of the top teams in the Eastern Conference.

    We’ve got our big four on offense, the 5 million plus boys, but then we’ve got another group of four or five guys that are playing amazing. Pacioretty and Kostitsyn top the list but Desharnais, Pouliot and Eller have really stepped up and in the salary cap era those guys are crucial.

    Then there’s Chara. I think there’s a bit of a grey area when issuing a suspension on the type of hit he threw on Pacioretty. If Pacioretty’s head doesn’t hit the turnbuckle and he bounces off and gets right back up, does Chara get suspended?

    On the other hand, Chara had Pacioretty in his crosshairs since Pacioretty gave him a shove after scoring an OT goal a couple months ago. Chara went right after him in the 8-6 game in Boston, the second he an opportunity to do so while players were pushing and shoving.

    So Chara definitely knew what he was doing and Pacioretty was number one on his hit list. The only thing that prevents me from agreeing with him getting a 10 game suspension or greater is that it’s not illegal to hit someone along the benches.

    Is there a difference between hitting a player into the glass or turnbuckle? The intent to injure is probably there, but I think every player was hitting to hurt last night.

    I hate Chara, don’t get me wrong! It bothers the hell out of me that’s he’s so much larger than the average player and 95% of players are helpless when he looses his temper.

    It bothers me that the Bruins were still trying to start fights late in the game after that ugly incident.

    However, when the Habs were up 4-0 or 4-1 with lots of time remaining in the game most people knew it was over. I myself was wondering what was going to happen in the final 15 minutes. Be it right or not, the majority of players and coaches, not the Canadiens, believe with the score the way it was and the type of game or rivalry that’s going on, its fight time!

    And unfortunately, aside from a 5-mintue penalty or getting tossed form a game that’s over anyway, there are no real repercussions to be felt from fighting. There’s nothing stopping Lucic from grabbing Subban and throwing punches.

    So either the NHL must really strengthen the rules against fighting, remove it all together, or the Habs are going to have to bite the bullet and get a heavyweight fighter for these types of games.

    Do I like the idea of staged fighting, no way! But if it takes a Bob Probert type player on the Habs to skate over to Lucic or Horton and tell them they’ll serious pay if they bother Subban or Pouliot, with the rules the way they are, that’s what the Habs should do.

    In conclusion, these types of games don’t happen every night but with the Flyers and Bruins both in our division, we play them a total of 10x during the regular season and that doesn’t include playoffs and preseason. And I don’t think either team will change their game plan in the playoffs either.

    I love our team and I think we can beat those teams with what we’ve got but enough is enough with the bullying!

  283. marshx says:

    A extremely promising young player’s career is now in jepordy because of a bone head disgutsting move by a “veteran” defencemen.


    Get well max .. Chara .. FU

  284. DearyLeary says:

    Obviously Max doesn’t have any ‘respect’ for the game, getting hurt on such an innocent play.


    The league can make money because they treat their players as expendable assets.

  285. HalifaxHabs says:

    No actually, so he can go out and get suspended for the rest of the season by putting a two-hander right in Chara’s face.

    I love that people want to blame the stanchion.

    I wonder why in the NFL they can place the onus on the hitting player… no excuses it doesn’t matter if someone is bending over, or has their head down, you are responsible for the hit you throw. But in the NHL, there’s always an excuse. Everyone is scared to say it was a dirty play by Chara. Everyone wants to make excuses for Chara. I love when listening to talking heads say he had no malicious intent. How is everyone so sure he had no intent… do they read minds???

    It blows my mind that people can watch that play and try to diminish what really happend. It’s disgusting.

  286. stephen says:

    So they can stand as a softer/cushier alternative to the stanchions, you mean? Otherwise, I’m not following how they would help.

  287. awesomerino says:

    The hell with it.  I hope Chara gets hit by a car.  F#ck the stupid Wookie.

  288. DearyLeary says:

    Remember the playoff series against Buffalo?  Chara got an instigator penalty at the end of the game, but magically he was spared the one game suspension?


  289. Big Ted says:

    I’ve taken a look at the hit multiple times and taken some time to reflect on it too. This is my take:

    From Chara’s point of view, I understand he wants to prevent Pacioretty from getting by, but I think even the Bruins agree Chara interferes with Pacman there, as the puck is clearly gone. I can even forgive Chara getting the elbow up a little high on Pacman’s head. But Chara acted after the game like Pacioretty jumped and that that is what threw him off balance, when there was no such gesture. In fact, from the replay, it is clear that the bigger Chara is the one directing where the pair of them are headed. The part I like the least is that after making initial contact with the elbow, Chara comes back with a shove to Pacioretty’s shoulder/head area that directly pushes his face into the partition. I don’t like it because this was NOT part of the initial contact. I also don’t like it because Chara can without a doubt see where that partition is. I don’t think this is a case of Chara merely getting in the way and there being unfortunate contact, as he makes it out to be. There is a deliberate gesture which directly results in a head trauma. Pacman is being ridden into the boards by the bigger player and this essentially made him as defenseless as a player receiving a blindside head shot or a hit from behind.

    A few more points:

    1. People will say Chara has no history as a dirty player. But while he may not have been suspended for hits like this in the past, this does not make his actions any better. Chara, like many of his Bruins teammates, have taken advantage of players in vulnerable situations beforehand. If you keep letting people off because they’ve never been suspended before, then that first suspension never comes, so to me that is a circular argument.

    2. Chara and Pacioretty have the personal history. The most telling thing about that is actually the previous game when the B’s won 8-6. In that one brawl, Chara came in and started pounding an already-engaged Pacioretty. In that case, Chara should have been suspended there (which goes back to point of him “never being an offender before” not being true). But more importantly, it shows that Chara did indeed remember the shove after the Pacman OT goal and it shows that he had previously had intent to hurt Pacioretty. You can ask yourself this time whether Chara merely meant to interfere with him or whether he was trying to pass a message, and given the circumstances and the late shove into the partition, I would lean more towards the latter.

    The bottom line is that Chara’s hit was reckless at best and malicious at worst. He may not have meant to give him a concussion, but he could see the partition there and his late shot tells me he was trying to use it as a weapon to ring up Pacioretty a little. Everyone talks about the Bruins and their concussion woes with Bergeron and Savard. Yet for a team that has suffered so many head injuries, why is it that we are constantly hearing about episodes where they are the aggressors in such situations involving head shots? I realize in this case that if the partition isn’t there, Pacman is likely alright today, but I think the fact Chara knew the partition was there has to play into the decision and it looked to me like he used it as a weapon in making his hit. I see that last shove from Chara, after the initial contact was engaged, as being the influencing factor that leads me to see this as an intentional shot to the head on a near-defenseless opponent, and while the damage is inflicted by the boards and not an elbow, the malice of the hit and the end result are the same and the consequences should be the same as if Chara had hit a player he clearly had a grudge against with a blindside shot to the head away from the puck. I wouldn’t call this a pre-meditated intent to injure but I would call this Chara being opportunistic and seeing a chance to hurt a guy he didn’t like.

    I see the NHL wimping out again and saying there is no way to verify what was going on in the players heads, but the mitigating factors just add up for me, so I think they end up giving him 2-3 games but I think in all honesty that he deserves to sit for 10 and he certainly shouldn’t be allowed to play by the time the B’s and Habs meet again in two weeks. The Bruins, like the Flyers, have been allowed to get away with numerous dangerous and dirty plays and it is time the league actually sanctioned one for what it was.

  290. CHCanadien says:

    Why am I not surprised by the reaction from chowd nation or the Bruins?  Kevin DuPont from the Globe really needs to check himself along with Mike Millbury and Barry Melrose.  If you look at the reverse angle you can see the intent from Chara using his elbow to drive Max’s head to the turnbuckle.  If things had been reversed and it had happened to a Bruin, they would be screaming bloody murder.


    I’m not holding my breath on  the league taking any action.  They seem to give the opposition a pass when something like this happens to the Habs.

  291. HalifaxHabs says:

    or Chris Simon

  292. Jonson says:

    time to sign owen nolan

  293. NightRyder says:

    We don’t need a pud who can’t play. The Laraque experiment showed that. We simply need the league to protect its players.

  294. BJ says:

    Time to trade for John Scott(Chicago) over the summer. Fourth line (to be just a presence for the mentally deficient teams). I use to like Julien but sorry the guy is another meat head, he’s certainly on the right team. I can still see Lucic shitting his pants with his yellow smile running away from Laraque. Too bad hockey is becoming an out of control circus but it seems that the league cannot police its league, so I say add 1-2 neanderthals to deal with the other teams meatheads.

  295. DearyLeary says:

    Note to the NHL: Don’t try to win against the Bruins, they’ll try to kill you for it.

  296. BJ says:

    No less than 10 games or shoot the NHL guy that will make the decision. Shooting him would warrant by their standards a maximum of 5 games.

  297. CanadienBoy says:

    Boivin say it best Ecoeurant or extremely disgusting

  298. Mr. Habs says:

    These are NHL players who are use to the fast pace and unexpected situations. Chara is a good hockey player who plays an aggressive game.But the FACTS are:

    1. Chara KNEW where he was on the ice

    2. He KNEW who was coming up left wing

    3. He KNEW he was beaten on the play

    4. He KNEW the score and that the game was lost

    5. Chara was frustrated because of the result of this game and the previous situation with Paccioriety.

    6. Chara steers Pac into the boards and that is a deliberate action.


    If we would take this situation and context using the NFL as a guide, the player would be suspended for the rest of the season (including playoffs) – because in the NFL a player has to be RESPONSIBLE AND ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS ACTIONS, EVEN IF THEIR IS NO INTENT!!!!But I agree with you Mr. Mackenzie, until someone is killed the NHL will probably only give him 2 games

  299. HalifaxHabs says:

    you are correct… I would bet he won’t get more than 1 or 2 games.

    Hockey is my favorite sport, I love the Habs, and I want to love the NHL, but it needs to have a serious reality check before someone gets paralyzed or killed.

  300. Propwash says:

    The sad fact is, the NHL won’t do anything until somebody gets killed, which could have happened last night. MaxPac is built like a brick ****house and he will be ok.

  301. HalifaxHabs says:

    It’s the morning after and I’m still disgusted… I have alot of thoughts and feelings on this, but I can’t take the time at work to type them all out.

    The NHL needs to step up and prove it gives a sh1t about player safety, and head shots.

  302. adam76 says:

    Does anyone have a HD video link of the hit?

  303. clichabs says:

    There’s a poll right here on Boston Globe’s Bruins Blog, please go there and vote for the Chara hit as dirty, so we can show these beanies who’s right:

  304. W35T5ID3 says:

    Wow that picture says it all.Charas fore arm /hand right up against patches’ face driving it head on to the stanchion and you can see the stanchion is slightly bent … about driving his head into it.WOW.I’m speechless.If Colin Campbell has any brain in his head and any goodness in him he will do what is right and suspend chara for at least 15 games or rest of the season.Hell i’d give him a suspension till next year.No playoffs.That play was BRUTAL.

    …So if the habs were down and had it been the B’s up 4 zip in that game i bet chara doesnt do that to patches.Clearly he is frustrated and couldnt control his neanderathal brain of his and nearly potentially killed a dude or end his career.Fortunatly he gonna be ok,patches that is.Chara what a freak.CONTROL YOURSELF!

    …1 more thing …wheree in deeee F**** is the Chara apology for this act?What a goof.He’s like a high school drop-out –> NO CLASS

  305. deggy24 says:

    Three penalties on the play: interference, boarding, and tripping resulting in injury. From my perspective it is the footwork that created the most danger and is being ignored by most analysts. Clearly a malicious hit resulting in injury. Should get 10 games, but won’t because everyone is ignoring the footwork; it created the vulnerability.

  306. Harry says:


    There should be mandatory and severe suspensions for all head shots.

    This game has really risen to the top for sports violence.

  307. HabsFanNorway says:

    This hit made me sick and I’ve been unwell the whole day because of it. I have no doubt in my mind that Chara wanted to hurt Max to some extent. 

    I think this league is becoming a joke. They have to stop this now. Chara should be banned until Max is back. If he can’t return the Habs should get a 1 round pic from Boston. This is the way the league should start dealing with players and oranizations like the Bruins. Chara is the captain of a team full of goons and should be held responsable. I want to use some words about people like Chara, Lucic, Julien, Milbury, Cherry etc, but I’ll pass and concentrate on sending positive thoughts to Max. 

    Get well soon!

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