Kings sweep Blues; report has deal reached to keep Yotes in AZ

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Players in the ceremonial handshake line at the Staples Center on Sunday, the Los Angeles Kings having swept the St. Louis Blues into summer.
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Hands up, everyone who had the Los Angeles Kings sweeping the St. Louis Blues in a four-game Western Conference semifinal.

You there, with your hand up: didn’t your parents teach you it’s not right to lie?

The remarkable Kings indeed swept the Blues, Los Angeles’ 3-1 win over St. Louis Sunday in L.A. ending a stunningly (Jonathan) quick semifinal. The Kings now await the winner of Phoenix-Nashville in the Western final.

As for amazing: how ’bout those Devils, New Jersey beating Philadelphia 4-2 at the Prudential Center on Sunday in front of ageless goalie Marty Brodeur (OK, he turned 40 Sunday) to seize a 3-1 Eastern semi lead heading into Game 5 back in Philadelphia on Tuesday.

On Monday: In New York, it’s Game 5 between the Rangers and Washington Capitals, that Eastern semi tied 2-2, and in Glendale, Ariz., not far from the favourite watering hole(s) of Predators’ Alexander Radulov and Andrei Kostitsyn, the Coyotes can finish off Nashville, up 3-1 in that one.

Yotes staying put?: Several media sources say that NHL commish Gary Bettman today will announce a tentative deal to keep the Coyotes in Arizona. Read more details here.

Worth your time: Liam Maguire on the Canadiens’ hiring of Marc Bergevin.

Food for thought: On Sunday, Hockey Night in Canada’s Elliotte Friedman threw Joel Quenneville’s name into hat of Habs coaching candidates. The Gazette’s Pat Hickey writes of Montreal’s pursuit of Rick Dudley as assistant general manager.

A stat you need: From Roger Leblond at RDS.ca: Nashville defenceman Hal Gill, the former Habs blue-line pillar, is five games shy of becoming the NHL’s all-time leader among players who have appeared in more than 100 postseason games without having scored a goal. Skillsy sat out five games to start this postseason, so had he appeared in those and not scored, he’d hold the record now. Gill has six assists in his 109 playoff games; former defenceman Craig Muni, the all-time leader, had zero goals and 17 assists in his 113 playoff games.

485 Comments

  1. frontenac1 says:

    Cherry showing Bruin clips and talking about Orr. So sad.Poor bugger.

  2. habsfan0 says:

    Holtby’s mom not amused.

  3. Captain aHab says:

    In that French interview, Bergevin came across as a truly nice guy….I really hope we don’t mess him up and give him a chance to set things up like he wants them. They called PG Urgel Bourgie in the interview…for those of you who don’t know, Urgel Bourgie is a funeral home.

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  4. Habfan10912 says:

    Gillis signing an extension in Vancouver probably means the Habs have one less candidate as they’re likely to keep their coach.

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  5. Danny88 says:

    DannySelon le 98,5 fm :
    «S’il faut se fier aux experts du «Hot Stove», animateurs des intermissions à «Hockey Night In Canada» sur les ondes de CBC, Joel Quenneville a de bonnes chances de devenir le prochain entraîneur du Canadien.

    Does Joel speak french btw?

    • Captain aHab says:

      I love how these things get started and morph….the folks on CBC never said he had a good chance of being hired. They said he could be a candidate and has a close relationship with Bergevin. I really hope we can pry him out of there….much prefer him over Roy personally.

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      • Coach K says:

        Agreed Captain.

        I can’t for the life of me understand why so many of our fellow bloggers think Patrick Roy is an NHL caliber coach at this point in his career. All he’s ever coached is high school teenagers (that’s what junior players are) with a handful of 20yr. old overage players thrown into the mix. It would be like Geoff Molson giving him the keys to the family Rolls Royce when all he’s ever driven is the lawn tractor. I would be happier if he were to learn how to coach at the pro level by apprenticing in Hamilton or as an assistant with the Habs. If it is not all about Patrick’s ego (as some critics contend) then he should have no problem with this. After all, the only job where you start at the top is when you dig a hole!

        -”stick ‘em in the mind”-

    • Psycho29 says:

      It came up this morning on TSN-990 with Francois Gagnon, apparently he could speak some French when he played but might have lost some over the years…

      From Quenneville’s Wiki page:

      “Quenneville was hospitalized and reported as being “in stable condition after “severe discomfort” of a non-cardiac nature” on February 16, 2011, resulting in him missing a home game versus the Minnesota Wild that night. After a conversation with the coach, Kelly Chase reported that Quenneville had suffered from internal bleeding, the cause of which was yet to be discovered. It was announced on Friday February 18 that the problem had been a small ulcer caused by aspirin, a drug known to have the potential for gastrointestinal side effects. He finally returned to take the Hawks’ practice on February 23, having been released from hospital on the 19th.”

      I guess getting out of a high stress job in Chicago and coming to low stress Montreal would be a great idea! ;-)

    • Bripro says:

      At one point, they ask why he took the Stanley Cup (which he won as a management member of the Hawks in 2010) to the Ste Martine cemetary.
      It was to pay tribute to his parents and told the story of how as a young boy, without a car in the family, his mom would take him to the rink at 5 am so he could practice.
      That’s love and dedication, and it certainly made me feel nostalgic.
      What parents won’t do for the kids, especially we hockey-crazed parents.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Funny that we all have similar type childhood memories. This game is special, plain and simple. Thanks for the translate, Bri and thanks for sharing L.

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        • Bripro says:

          Hey Jim, as L says, they’re a little goofy at times, but this is the type of show they animate.
          At one point though, he wonders if the seat he’s sitting in is an electric chair.
          And you’re right L, he knows how to answer without avoiding the point, unlike his predecessor.

      • L Elle says:

        So true Bri.

        In general I found, even though the hosts were goofs, he answered honestly, and dodged the difficult questions with tact and humour.

        Everyone I know who is successful, has had a great childhood. Not necessarily money or comfort, but all the thing that can’t be bought.

        If given a chance, he can take the team very far. Can’t wait for the season to start.

        • L Elle says:

          Edit: Pleasure Jim!

          When asked what he hasn’t done in hockey? Drive the zamboni.

          Will he hire Patrick Roy? He doesn’t know yet, but he scored a beautiful goal on Roy in Montreal once. For a guy who doesn’t score much, it’s a great memory.

  6. HabFanSince72 says:

    Getting back to an earlier discussion, I’m not at all a fan of PG and I am glad he’s gone, but he did not throw Cunnyworth under the bus.

    What he said at that press conference is this: “I’m sorry if we offended anyone, that was not our intention.”

    That is not “apologizing for hiring an English speaking coach”. It did not undermine him.

    PG in this case was unprepared for the outcry, but he is the one who gave Cunnyworth the opportunity to coach in the NHL.

    It’s Molson who then said that Cunny was only interim and that the permanent coach would have to speak French. Not PG.


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  7. db says:

    I hope Gill scores.

  8. punkster says:

    5:50pm on day 5 of the Marc Bergevin era and what has he done? Where are the deals, the signings, the miraculous moves that will propel this franchise to glory?

    Dump his lazy butt now.

    DO IT GEOFF MOLSON!!!

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  9. Bripro says:

    I don’t usually run polls, but I’d like to know how many of you will have any chance of winning your pools.
    I had predicted a Pens – Blues final…so I’m out to lunch.
    C’mon…be honest.
    How many figured the Kings would go this far?

    • CalgaryHab says:

      I wasn’t in any pools but I did predict that the Blues, Canucks, Bruins and the Rangers would not make it out of the second round.

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      I had LA over VAN but definitely dropped the ball on most of the other series’. I think I either had NAS or CHI in the West and NYR in the East.

  10. EasternOntarioHabsFan says:

    Does any of you think that there is ANY chance at all that Gomez won’t be gone next year?

    In my opinion he has been a Bulldog since April

    • Chuck says:

      I’d be highly surprised if he doesn’t at least start training camp as a Hab.

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      • HabinBurlington says:

        Assuming the new CBA is completed and there is no amnesty buyout like last time around I agree, I think he starts in camp and is given a short window at start of year to “earn” a spot on the team. If after this window he is not showing much, I believe he then starts shopping for a beautiful wartime built house on Barton street in downton Hamilton, right near the soon to be beautifully rennovated Ivor Wynne Stadium.

        This will turnaround the economy in Hamilton thus making the NHL realize that Hamilton needs an NHL team. Very quickly the NHL grants Hamilton a new team and team owner Ron Joyce immediately realizes Gomez will be his franchise player and makes his new GM John Ferguson Jr. make a trade with the Habs to get this franchise player setting the AHL on fire with the Bulldogs.

        Montreal gets the new franchises 1st overall pick and takes McKinnon with the first overall pick.

        Whoah, just woke up, not even sure what i just typed….

        • habstrinifan says:

          step away from the keyboard lad… for your own good.

        • Bripro says:

          Good thing you set your alarm Gerry.
          Your babbling had me worried.
          I was afraid your were somehow gonna work Pierre Peladeau
          and the Nordiques into the equation.
          We would have mistook you for the english version of a Quebec City mayor.

      • HardHabits says:

        Will he be chasing mOby dIck as aHab as well?

    • shiram says:

      Should be next poll question.

    • LizardKing12 says:

      I’d say it is highly probable but not necessarily a lock. I’m sure whoever the new coach is will review the roster and have input on what to do with Gomez. I get the feeling that a decision that big will not be made by Bergevin alone. He seems to work with a team mentality and will probably want to hear the opinions of his entire staff once it is assembled.

      In the end I can’t imagine that Gomez will be here any longer than training camp. The new coach might want to get a look at him on the ice before the season starts before a final decision is made. Hopefully we’ve seen the last of Gomez in a Habs uniform.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        I think I agree that he’ll spend sometime in camp unless MB can find a suck, er a trading partner. I hope he’s played his last game as a Hab. Time to turn pages, eh?

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    • smiler2729 says:

      Hopefully a trade with some cap floor team is a chance but realistically given his huge ticket and with a new coach bringing a new ‘system’, he will be given a chance but if his game has truly terminally deteriorated then he’s Hammer bound.

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    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Doesn’t make sense to keep Gomez with the idea of demoting him later. The only advantage of demoting him to the AHL is to get the cap space back. The cap space is only useful to sign free agents.

      If he starts training camp then we are stuck with him.


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    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      I think there’s a small chance. I think if bergevin decided to take by dumping Pleks AND Gio, he’d keep Gomez hoping that he’d either help the team lose, or play play well enough to make him trade-able at the deadline or next summer. I don’t think anybody believes he’s going to help the team win though.

      “I’m not opposed to trading Plekanec and/or Markov”
      - Sean Bonjovi

    • stevieray says:

      Haven’t you heard …Gomez is already working out in preparation for next year and will come to camp in tip top shape !!!!…where have we heard that before …
      So what happens if he is sent to Hamilton …contract and cap space wise ?? …

    • Marc10 says:

      Hi might get 10 games to save his career, but I think it’s more important we get the cap relief.

      I’d ship him to the AHL and make deal with a team considering his services to have him play in their minor league system so they can properly evaluate him.

  11. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Giroux gets one game for the hit and deserves it. Good for Shanahan. 25 games to Torres and nothing for the Chara/Pacioretty “hit” but no one’s perfect, I guess.

    • shiram says:

      To be fair, Shanahan was not handling the “justice” department back then.

    • habsnyc says:

      Giroux’s hit was not a hockey play. It was retribution for a perceived cheap shot. I get why that has to be punished. But if Weber was not suspended for what seemed like a more vicious hit, then I do not understand why Giroux was suspended.

      By capping fines at $2,500, the NHLPA has forced Shanahan to suspend players. If the NHL could have fined him $25k he might be playing in game six.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  12. Habspark says:

    I know a couple of you are aware that the World Championships are on, but sadly that does not seem to include those who write professionally for Hockey ‘Inside Out’.

    Rather than accruing a wish-list of players who may or may not have chemistry with any Habs players, here’s a thought: Maybe report on Pacioretty’s chemistry with Stastny and Ryan; or Plekanec and his linemates? Is anyone aware that Ryan Murray who could be at our fingertips come draft day is playing for Canada, ie., the best chance we’ll have of seeing this guy mixing it up with some of the NHL’s finest young talent before that day arrives?

    Is there ONE mention that Subban has been injured or that Pacioretty is one point shy of Malkin in tournament scoring? NO, we get a report on NASHVILLE’s Gill and his amazing scoreless record… Marvellous.

    So, a big thumbs up to all Habs in Scandinavia (Pacioretty, Plekanec, Eller and Subban), all those who would have been there if not for injury (Price, Diaz, Weber), and a massive thumbs down to the writers here for their non-support of these players, errant journalism and most of all for demonstrating in a large part why North America has an insular reputation… Out of Province, out of mind??

    And please, Boone et al, prove me wrong.

  13. Bripro says:

    Most of you who have read my posts know that I supported Pierre McGuire. His knowledge of the game, the players, the executive, the prospects, the scouts, etc. runs pretty deep.
    He indeed carries a loud persona, but I truly believe that it’s for show.
    As for the selection of Bergevin, like many here, I really didn’t know much about him, but I was not about to dismiss him, given the time it took for Geoff Molson to pick his man.
    But since his crowning, I must admit that with all the accolades coming in from around the NHL executives, I’m truly feeling optimistic.
    He said the right things during his introduction and he smiled…. (wow Bri…big deal). It is a big deal, considering his predecessor didn’t crack his porcelain skin, albeit wrinkled, the entire time he was in office.
    And he seems to advocate delegating. Which to me is crucial.
    The more brains to focus on the weaknesses, the easier to turn them into strengths, like the local scouting program.
    I’m optimistic. Now if he can instil that into the players, we could be enjoying playoff hockey of our own sooner, rather than later.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      He seems to have leadership qualities, which is perhaps the most important aspect of his job as GM.

    • ZepFan2 says:

      In Gauthier’s defense, he did smirk a lot. That’s almost close to a smile. Then again it’s also close to a sneer.

      F-you Gauthier!! :smile:

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    • LizardKing12 says:

      I’m very excited about Bergevin’s “piece of the puzzle” mentality. He will surround himself with the best group possible which is a breath of fresh air after the supposedly understaffed management group we just had.

      As for making the playoffs I would not be surprised to see us make it next year as the 8th seed. If the team can avoid injuries to core players they will already be a few steps ahead from last year. Gionta consistently scores around 25 goals a year and if Markov is healthy he should put up 40+ points. Pleks numbers will benefit from playing with Gionta as well. I’m sure Bergevin will make a few moves to round out the roster and if the young guns like PK, Pacs, DD, Emelin and Eller continue to progress I think a playoff spot is a realistic possibility.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good post Bri. I think any PM supporters that had the slightest open mind would feel as you do. I was not a PM supporter ( I was threatend with bodily harm by an unnamed person from Burlington) but like you, didn’t know much about MB. It sure sounds to me the clubs finally got this thing headed in the right direction. Hard not to be optimistic.

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      • HabinBurlington says:

        I thought my thinly veiled threat was to be kept quiet, the fellows I had knock on your door to deliver the message are extremely professional and kept it quiet. Hmmmm it appears I have been exposed. ;-)

        • Bripro says:

          I’ve got news for you. They showed up here and stripped me of my bullet-proof vest without hesitation.
          Next time, you should instruct them that, if asked, the big boss is to be identified only as Mr X, not Burley!

        • habstrinifan says:

          Who McGuire? What? Where?

          Your boys were exceptionally professional. I should be walking by Gomez’s first goal next season.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Tried really hard to not say anything but … I dont think there has been any former PM supporters not totally enamoured by Bergevin and satisfid with the choice…. unless I missed their post.

    • JF says:

      I haven’t felt this good about the Habs since at least the playoff run two years ago. Marc Bergevin seems to me the ideal choice. He has the right kind of roots, the right kind of history as a hardworking player, a team guy, and a leader, and he’s worked his way up since retiring. He’s an excellent communicator, knows how to reach out to different people, and believes above all in team work, both as regards the team itself and as regards the running of it.

      I loved what I read about his growing up in the Point, about his older sisters looking after him and worrying when he was drafted by Chicago that he would get lost because the city was so big and he didn’t speak English, and about his bringing his children and the Stanley Cup back to the place he came from. Apparently his children, who no doubt lived in a well-to-do suburb of Chicago, were wide-eyed at the meanness of the surroundings, the lack of space, the lack of things. What really got to me: Bergevin said, “We didn’t have many things when I was growing up, but we were spoiled with love; and with that, you can go far.”

  14. rhino514 says:

    NOW I am excited.
    Bergevin´s achiles heel, and it is a big one, is no experience as a GM and only one year as an assistant GM.
    I think he has a lot of other pluses, and hiring Dudley fills his one shortcoming. With this move, the charismatic, french-speaking, hungry-to-win and hungry-to-learn Bergevin and the experienced Dudlel should form a competent team…in my mind clearly better than McGuire and the the token assistant GM he would have had at his side.
    I like the idea of a commitee, or the “pieces of the puzzle” as the new GM himself eloquently put it i.e. Bergevin, dudley, Savard, Carriere instead of the one man show I fear it would have been with McGuire.
    Let´s just hope they make the right call with the coach.

  15. Bouleau noir says:

    In watching the Devils playing their last three games I dont recalled ever seeing a team bettering the forechecking aspect of this game of hockey we love, New Jersey of all teams if offering a clinic on ” How to acheive and maintain puck possession in your opposition’s end for endless streches at a time ” and its free to watch.

    At this point I am still trying to figured it out, first, all their forwards seems average sized good skaters using speed while possessing good overall puck control skills for a start, second, once in the offensive zone the 3 forward’s main focus seems to remain there as long as they can by using the boards extensivelly which is used as their 4th forward man…. they work their ass off as a three men unit on the periphery and wont precipitate a play away from the boards unless it is a secured one and until that happens you will not see one forward standing uselessy in front of the net as most team do…… the focus here is territorial advantage through total support…. then offensive chances seems to come soon enough.

    Offensive can be your best defence,…. I think when played the Devils way as it is nowdays…. there’s no doubt about it being so.

    Its a tough brand of game to play in and out for the forwards though….. energie could go down eventually.

  16. Cal says:

    1 game- if Zubrus concussed, maybe more. Giroux deserved something for his cheap shot and I am glad he got something.

    • chilli says:

      maybe if they actually called the rules as they should be enforced on the ice this league wouldn’t be so out of control…the refs view this as a 2 min penalty but the league thinks its a suspension? Call it as it should have been on the ice (5 min and match penalty) regardless of who the player is you’ll see this happening less – then the next time you do it you get 3 automatic, then 10, then 40. NFL has it right by enforcing the same rules first min ox exhibition season as it does in last min of superbowl

      Tre

  17. TomNickle says:

    Off topic but……

    Has a head scout had a better draft in the last twenty years than the 2007 draft that Trevor Timmins had?

    12th overall – Ryan McDonagh
    22nd overall – Max Pacioretty
    43rd overall – PK Subban

    Without that draft we’re in Columbus Blue Jackets’ territory.

    • Stormin says:

      Tom this a tongue in cheek answer,
      Maybe we would be much better off if he did not draft Ryan McDonagh, Sather does not make the trade and allow us to have The Great Scott Gomez as an albatross. Damn you Timmins you idiot.

      PS Maybe one day, Trevor Timmins will tell the whole story concerning a little trip BG took to Madison Wis, to see Ryan play, prior to the trade, when the thought of the trade was in its infancy etc………

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      2010 was pretty good.

      22nd – Jarred Tinordi
      117th – Morgan Ellis
      147th- Brendan Gallagher

      “I’m not opposed to trading Plekanec and/or Markov”
      - Sean Bonjovi

      • Chuck says:

        We’ll see.

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      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        When comparing the group from 2010 to the group from 2007 I handicapped the later for being picks 12,22,&43 as opposed to 22,117,&147. Also, Had we assessed the 2007 in May of 2009, We probably could have predicted P.K.’s career path, but it was not a foregone conclusion that McDonagh and Pacioretty would become the player’s they’ve proven to be.

        P.S.-Does he really spell his name “McDonagh”? jackass! ; ) (My grandmother’s name was McDonough. I’m glad we traded him now.)
        P.P.S-My other grandmother’s name was Beaulieu. I’ve done my part, it’s someone else’s turn now ; )

        “I’m not opposed to trading Plekanec and/or Markov”
        - Sean Bonjovi

    • habsnyc says:

      I am a big fan of Trevor Timmons. But he drafted two guys in the top 25. It is not that much different than taking Perry and Getzlaf 19th and 28th or Carter and Richards 11th and 24th or Ovechkin and Green 1st and 29th.

      I think Boston’s 2006 draft was good. 5th Kessel 50th Lucic 71st Marchand

      Detroit’s 1989 draft was stellar. 11 Sillinger 53 Lidstrom 74 Federov 116 Dallas Drake 221 Konstantinov

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  18. Stormin says:

    I agree it deserved a suspension, that said i believe players have now adated to this rule, and it seems more and more when players heads are contacted during the game they are reacting like soccer players in hopes of selling a major penalty,, or post game punishment from the league..

    Do not get me wrong i agree head shots have to be taken seriously, but there was a time when Giroux hit would have resulted in nothing,, the player would not have even gone down on that clip and continued to play, seems as players have adapted to this rule and have tried to amend their targeting on body checks, also the receivers of these checks have also adapted and are selling these hits big time.

    • TomNickle says:

      There was also a time when a player would suffer two concussions in a single game, not know what day it is and go back out on the ice to play.

  19. Dr.Rex says:

    Monday fandom quack thoughts:
    1) IS anyone really supposed to be excited that Phoenix may have found an owner to keep them in Glendale? LIke really, this debacle has been going on for years and just now that there is legtimate cities wanting a franchise they suddenly find a miraculous owner who will use his bargaining leverage to rob the taxpayers and the county. What a joke this is and Bettman’s face is stamped all over this piece of terd.
    2) NOw that the franchise has turned a new page and the organization smells like spring can we finally drop the McDonaugh talk. Like really, we all know it was a bad trade on June 30, 2009 so its no surprise he has turned into the stud that he is. WHen GOmer gets sent down the stains will be no more.
    3) Jordan Stall? Since when are we looking for a thrid line center that will be earning first line money? Giving up our #3 overall pick for Stall would be a bigger mistake then puttin gall your money into Bre-X stocks today.
    4) Looking for a good communicator as coach eliminates Therrien and hartley from contention. ALthough reading quotes from KEsler and D Sedin that both seem to think communicating is the strength of Vigneault as a coach.
    5) ANyone here able to tutor Mike Babcock the entire french language in two weeks?

    • shiram says:

      1.There are a few die hard Coyotes fan, I’m sure they would be happy.
      2. I hope so.
      3.Well if Habs trade for him, he would be taking one of the top 2 center spots.
      4.French?
      5.No

    • The Cat says:

      Thats rubbish. Hartley is an excellent communicator.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      1. Yes because it hurts Peladeau and the ‘Diques fans who don’t even exist yet.
      2. No.
      3. Staal wouldn’t be a 3rd liner on any team other than the Pens. Still wouldn’t trade our pick for him.
      4. Therrien – how can anyone seriously consider this guy?
      5. Babcock isn’t leaving Detroit.


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  20. HabinBurlington says:

    So if Philly is eliminated in the next game, does Ed Snider make sure that Shanahan is not in his current job next season?

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Maybe he can join the anti Jacobs camp if he already hasn’t.

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    • Bripro says:

      As long as Daddy Campbell is there, Shanny isn’t going anywhere.
      Besides, Stevie Y will have nothing to do with it either and the Bs won’t retaliate….And I’ve got this great swamp land in Florida.

  21. HabinBurlington says:

    Wow the league suspended Giroux, should have been 3-5, but at least they suspended him.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I’m confused. Ovie = 0. Weber = 0. Giroux = 1. Look, I know I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer and you guys on here are more then kind to me but man I can’t figure this league out anymore. Wow!

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  22. Ali says:

    Giroux suspended for 1 game.

    • commandant says:

      I’m shocked, I really am.

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      • Ali says:

        I thought he would get a game. They’re cracking down since Torres and the chaos of round 1.

        • commandant says:

          I think he deserves it.

          I’m just suprised that the NHL would suspend a star with his team on the brink of elimination.

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          • Ali says:

            i honestly think Shanahan isn’t biased. He’s pressured from internal sources (owners, GM’s) and has made mistakes, and would’ve been much harsher throughout the year if not for aforementioned pressure to be more lenient.

          • TomNickle says:

            Only partially true. Jeff Vinik probably has the second least amount of pull with the other owners and league executives. Ryan Malone got nothing for his intended head shot to Campoli.

            Yet Rocky Wirtz is among the league’s most influential owners with the Blackhawks, Francesco Aquillini is nearly an absentee owner and Daniel Sedin got nothing for blindsiding Duncan Keith and Keith got five games for his retaliation on Sedin.

            It’s just wildly inconsistent with varying degrees of discipline sometimes based on personal relationships.

          • Cal says:

            @ Ali- Shamahan is not effective. He may not be biased, but I would ask Campoli that question after old buddy Malone almost decapitated him. Discipline should come from authority not affected by league bs.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Deliberate hit to the head. In a sense worse than the Torres hit, from the standpoint of intent.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • Ali says:

        well I think they both had bad intentions. But with the NHL’s stupid insistence of looking at how injured the victim is, 1 game fits.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        It is hard to argue with that HF72, just didn’t have the punishing force of coming right at him or the size. But I agree, the intent was obvious.

    • Dr.Rex says:

      I thought he would get one game. And although I am a Giroux fan I think he should have gotten two.

      Chara would have gotten zero games and they would have apologized to the Bruins organization for letting the other player get in his way.

  23. Mustang says:

    Yesterday on NBC, a comment was made that LA was the first #8 team to ever to beat the #1 team and the #2 team back to back in the playoffs. Isn’t that what Montreal did 2 years ago when they knocked off Pittsburgh and Washington?

  24. Say Ash says:

    lol, just thought of this: Bettman might give himself the Campbell trophy!

  25. habs001 says:

    Not too many point per game players in the nhl…chances are if habs get one it has to be thru the draft system..it would be interesting to see where price would be ranked if nhl coaches and gen mgr had to select one goalie to play game 7 cup final game…

  26. HabinBurlington says:

    Must be doing lots of re-takes on the Shanahan announcement where he announces that Zubrus clearly tries to headbut Giroux, but misses and instead hits the shoulder pad of Giroux.

    Hearing was at 11am.

  27. HabinBurlington says:

    Further to the whole knee injury to Galchenyuk. I have explained long ago on here, that I liken the situation with Galchenyuk to Dan Marino. Prior to his knee ACL blowout in college he was considered to be one of the best collegiate quarterbacks, if not the best. After his injury, despite coming back for this senior year at Pitt, 3 or 4 quarterbacks were taken ahead of him, including Todd Blackledge.

    My point is, at the age Galchenyuk is, I am not sure his ACL is as doom and gloom as many project. In fact, I almost rather have a young guy coming off a knee injury than a significant Concussion.

    Well add RG3 to this list of young phenomenal athletes to have blown their ACL and appear to have recoverd. 2 Years ago at Baylor he blew it out, he since has won a Heisman and was just drafted 2nd overall in the NFL draft.

    I don’t think Galchenyuk will be there at the 3rd pick as I think he may be taken 2nd overall. But if he is their at 3rd, I really hope we grab him.

    • Newf_Habster says:

      I love your post! That is why Galchenyuk deserves to be in top three because he has a lot of upsides which should not be ignored.

      • Chris says:

        Galchenyuk is a talented youngster, but he didn’t get a chance to show what he can do without Yakupov and on a team that is even remotely defensively responsible. He and Yakupov lit it up as 16/17 year olds, but they played for a horrible Sarnia Sting team that gave up the second most goals in the league (321 goals in 68 games).

        There are legitimate questions that can be asked about Galchenyuk:

        1) Can he play defensively?
        2) Was his big year a real indication of his talent or a result of playing with Yakupov (who we now know can score at roughly the same pace without Galchenyuk)?
        3) How will the lost of a year affect his development? I think it is pretty much a given that he won’t be moving to the NHL for at least another year, which could cost him a rung or two if teams think others can make the jump now. The teams that draft high typically are the ones in most need of immediate help.

        I like Galchenyuk because of his potential, but you can’t ignore the risks any more than you can ignore the rewards. He is a prototypical high risk/high reward player.

    • boing007 says:

      He did play in the first round of the playoffs this year and scored four points. On the road to recovery, I hope.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  28. habstrinifan says:

    Be forewarned! This post is full of hindsight, armchair intuition, inconsistencies, and worst of all may even be irrelevant. So, if any of those weaknesses of punditry offends you….. please move along, nothing to see here.

    I have been thinking about the job done by Alain Vigneault in the playoffs in the light of his possible becoming the HABS head coach. I think it is valid to compare Vigneault’s team with Washington. Albeit Vancouver faced what is beginning to look like a behemoth team.

    But I do think that Vigneault and Hunter were faced with similar questions surrounding their team. An identity? A big gap of expectations between the topstars and the ‘foot soldiers’ such that one could say for Vancouver “if the Sedins dont produce they are in trouble” as one could similarly do for Washington re Ovechkin and Semin.

    What did Vigneault do. Nothing tangible or proactive it seems. And he had last season’s playoffs as proof that tweaking of assignments, workload, ice-time etc was needed.

    What did Hunter do? Against much gnashing of teeth by scribes and analysts etc he did some serious tweaking off assignments, workloads, ice-times etc.

    What Hunter did was close the gap between the expectations of his tops stars and his foot soldiers. Oveshkin/Semin werent expected to score 15 goals while the foot soldiers did almost nought. What Hunter did was level-out the work produced by his team… so that no one could focus on any one player and effectiely reduce the them results.
    If you compared it to a factory situation, it would mean a less spectacular production line but a more reliable and manageable production line with more stations and less breakdowns.

    Might boor a tour group to hell but a consistent output is maintained with less work stoppage due to ‘key’ breakdowns and each worker feels more responsible and thus more empowered.

    Which is why I am unsure if I would welcome a Vigneault hire. I think he lacks the meticulous attention to the nuts and bolts of his team which can keep it running smoothly. A coach like Hunter seems to.

    • TomNickle says:

      Hunter doesn’t have to worry about the long term consequences of alienating his stars though. It’s been reported since he took the job that it was only for the remainder of the season.

      Vigneault does have to worry.

      The only thing that I can say Vigneault is guilty of is allowing rampant whining and complaining to become habitual.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        So for Hunter being there for one year was a plus.

        For Cunny it was a push in front of an oncoming bus.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

        • LizardKing12 says:

          There is a big difference between the Hunter and Cunnyworth situations. Hunter has a one year deal but there is a chance that he comes back if he wants to. Cunny on the other hand was thrown under the bus by PG less than a week after he was hired and it was obvious that there wasn’t the slightest chance that Cunny would be back.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            It was actually Molson who said he was interim.


            Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

          • LizardKing12 says:

            PG apologized to the fans for hiring an anglophone coach. The problem was not that he was interim. It is not uncommon for a coach hired mid season to have an interim tag. Usually though, interim coaches can coach their way into the official job title. If an interim coach turns the team around or management like what they see from him he will get the job.

            By apologizing to fans, which was done by both PG and Molson, they guaranteed that Cunny had zero chance of earning the job. It makes it that much more difficult to earn the respect of your players when management does not have your back.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      The one thing that always gets me is that lets say that Washington would have lost that game 7 to Boston. Hunter quite possibly could be looking for another job. He would have been blamed for trying to make the Capitals play defense. Now he is being labeled a genius instead.

      Same with Jacques Martin. Montreal beats Boston in overtime last year and Martin and Pierre Gauthier are still employed by the Habs today.

      • shiram says:

        Not to mention that Claude Julien could have lost his job last season, had the Habs won.

      • Cal says:

        It is about results, not maybes and ifs.
        Hunter has a lot of pull because he is signed until season’s end only. He does not need the headache because he owns the London club.
        Every player has a role to fill these days, but the player had better fill it or sit on the bench. During the playoffs, teamwork is the #1 priority. Anything else should earn the offending player a ticket to the minors.

      • Chris says:

        Well, to be fair, Dale Hunter is only on a one-year contract and he is apparently more than happy to return to London where he rakes in the cash and doesn’t have to put up with NHL players.

        Some think that even if offered a chance to stay next season, he may still bolt back to the OHL.

    • mrhabby says:

      geeee..AV has won 2 (two) Presidents Trophy’s and the team has been consistently the best in the west for the last 2,3,4 years now. He has not won the cup but he certainly must be doing something right.

  29. frontenac1 says:

    Whoa! Did you guys see the replay of that centre ice hit by that French player on the Kazak player?Just smoked him! The guy is out cold on the ice,they bring out a stretcher,he comes to after awhile and doesn’t want the stretcher! They help him skate off and he doesn’t want to go the dressing room!He sits on the bench! One Tough Hombre!!

    • AllHailTheFlower says:

      That was one vicious hit, and I can’t believe the guy skated off on his own (more or less). I doubt he was even concious when his face bounced off the ice. Definitely one of the nastiest hits I’ve ever seen…

  30. naweed235 says:

    No way in hell Ginger Giroux gets suspended… Like many said it before, a fine is the most likely scenario

  31. Les Habitants says:

    Ralph Backstrom 1960′s = Jordan Stall 2010′s

    • Ali says:

      Before my time, so you’ll have to explain that reference.

      • Old Bald Bird says:

        He probably means superb third line guy.

      • Les Habitants says:

        I got to run but the jest of it is that Backstorm played center for years for the habs behind Beliveau and the Pocket Rocket. he was a big part of the master piece Pollock pulled off to get Lefluer.

        • Bripro says:

          He WAS the reason that the Habs managed to get the Golden Seal’s draft pick and chose Lafleur. It was pure genius.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            Didn’t he trade Backstrom to the Seals’ rival, thus helping them finish ahead of them?


            Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

          • D Mex says:

            Correct. He went to the Kings.

            ALWAYS Habs -
            D Mex

          • Bripro says:

            That’s correct. It was to help the Kings beat the Seals in the standings.
            Montreal had acquired the Seals’ draft pick.
            You are both right, gentlemen.

          • D Mex says:

            Pollock had the Oakland draft pick in hand but, to ensure it turned into # 1 overall, he strengthened the Kings by sending Backstrom there.

            Kind of like what BG did with McDonagh, oh wait … :-)

            ALWAYS Habs -
            D Mex

          • Bripro says:

            He needed to because, at the time of the trade, the Kings were in the cellar, and acquiring no. 1 overall didn’t look good.

  32. HardHabits says:

    You’d think that since the web site changed its name to Hockey Inside Out that non-Habs related comments would be de rigueur. However, reading some of the comments it appears that the name could be changed to Hokey Inside Out. Either that or the lot of you should get back to work because it’s becoming Hookie Inside Out.

    At least it’s better than that brief period of time when this place was practically becoming HardHabits Inside out.

  33. TomNickle says:

    You get to add one of the following players for a reasonable return. Which one do you take?

    a) Jordan Staal
    b) Vincent Lecavalier
    c) Derrick Brassard
    d) Jarret Stoll
    e) Ryan Getzlaf
    f) Paul Stastny

    • Ali says:

      1) Getzlaf
      2) Staal
      3) Stastny
      4) Brassard
      5) Stoll
      6) Lecavalier (purely because of his contract)

      edit: I’m dumb, i thought you wanted to rank them. Getzlaf is my #1 pick.

    • shiram says:

      That would depend on which Habs center is moved.
      But probably Getzlaf then Stoll/Brassard are the second choices.

      • TomNickle says:

        I understand the Getzlaf pick you’ve both made. I would pick him too though I’d have a hard time turning Stastny down.

        • Ali says:

          Stastny seems to be trending downwards though which is worrisome, despite Duschene struggling this year.

          How about Duchene? Word is Sacco is not a fan…

          • TomNickle says:

            I would take Duchene in a New York minute.

          • Ali says:

            Finally we agree on something!

          • TomNickle says:

            Haha. Well Duchene is immediately a better fit for this organization than Staal or Getzlaf.

            That’s assuming that size AND speed continue to be the mandate at forward.

          • jmsheehy19 says:

            I would take both Stastny or Duchene. Where is there word that Sacco is not a fan? Would take an awful lot to steal him away.

          • Ali says:

            Duchene’s ice time towards the end of the season was very limited.

        • shiram says:

          Stasny’s good, for sure, but if the Habs are upgrading the top 6 might as well go with Getzlaf and the cheaper cap hit.
          Again it would depend on whom is moved on the Habs roster to accomodate this new player.

    • Chris says:

      The Habs need scoring. Stastny and Getzlaf are setup men, Stoll is a defensive forward, Brassard is enigmatic and Lecavalier is getting a bit too much mileage on his body given the style of game he plays.

      Staal has perhaps the most scoring potential, but he is streaky.

      I’d probably say Getzlaf, followed closely by Staal. But as a 23 year old power forward (only two months older than Max Pacioretty), I think Staal is poised to make a big jump forward.

      I have always liked Paul Stastny, but his career arc is trending the wrong way. I happen to believe that is a product of a completely dysfunctional team, but it is a concern.

      • TomNickle says:

        This is off topic Chris but how do you feel about Olli Maatta’s chances of cracking the top ten of the draft?

        I think he could see himself become the second defenseman taken.

        • Chris says:

          Don’t know enough about him to comment, unfortunately. Only made one London game this year and I was focused on Tinordi, Harrington and Domi.

          Maattaa’s huge playoff this spring is obviously going to help his cause. But there has always been a bias against European trained defencemen that might see him devalued a bit against WHL players like Murray, Dumba, Rielly and Reinhart.

          • TomNickle says:

            Jim Rutherford seems to be one of the few General Managers who doesn’t have those reservations but #6 overall might just be too high.

            Reinhart’s stock seems to be falling quite hard and Dumba is a pure high risk/high reward guy.

            It’s something that I think could happen with a strong Memorial Cup provided they make it there of course.

    • smiler2729 says:

      Jordan Staal cuz he’s way more than what he’s shown buried in Pittsburgh…

      Lecavalier’s contract is ugly.
      Brassard’s still too green.
      Stoll is inconsistent.
      Getzlaf is overrated.
      Statsny isn’t good enough.

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      • TomNickle says:

        I can buy that Staal is developing. What boils my blood is the argument that he’s been buried in Pittsburgh. With the injuries they’ve sustained in the last four years and the line shuffling that Bylsma uses he’s had several opportunities to produce offensively and has underwhelmed.

        • Chris says:

          The problem for Staal is that he is a center on a winger-weak team. Pittsburgh is ridiculously strong up the middle, but other than Neal and Kunitz, their wingers are a bit weak (which is why I think they are looking at Yakupov so heavily). Throw in his constant injury woes, and its hard for him to get going on a nice roll. Returning from injuries often wipes a player out for another couple of weeks as they try to get up to mid-season speed.

          Getzlaf benefits from having Perry, Ryan and Selanne to snipe. Centers are usually looked at for their point totals more than their goal totals. I don’t know that Staal is a point-per-game player, but I don’t think that any of this year’s guys except perhaps Yakupov and maybe Galchenyuk are guaranteed point-per-game players either, and whoever drafts Galchenyuk is going to need a LOT of job security because of that knee injury.

  34. habsguru says:

    you would think Giroux would be less likely to target the head since he’s been on the receiving end. he was crying foul before he lost it, and the intent was blatent. he has to get a game for that.

  35. naweed235 says:

    how the hell did Jamie Benn with all his size and talent get picked 129th over all in the 5th round??!?!?!?!

  36. EricInStL says:

    I would be very surprised if the NHL suspended Giroux. Figure 2500$ fine.

    Giroux has a hearing with the NHL, but Shanahan has a call with Mr Ed first.

    É

  37. Ali says:

    Come on Bergie, go get us Jordan Staal.

    • TomNickle says:

      Why do you want Jordan Staal?

      • Ali says:

        6’4, 220lbs, 50 points in 62 games, 100 hits. and a center. the type of one we’ve been lacking for about 15 years by my count.

        • shiram says:

          Staal has only one more season on his contract, and to accomodate him, Habs would have to ship one of DD/Pleks/Eller.
          I’d try to have some kind of confirmation that Staal would want to re-sign before embarking on such a trade scenario.

        • TomNickle says:

          - Never been better than a point per game player and really hasn’t been close at the NHL level despite long term injuries to Malkin and Crosby that have elevated him to top six duty and also consider that he’s often played in the top six with Malkin on the wing.
          - Injury prone.
          - Not elite in any area of the game.

          • Ali says:

            He’s only 23, and he’s a 25 goal, 60-70 point guy. I’ll take one thats 6’4 and can play in all zones including on the PK versus one thats 5’5.

            Edit: Also, Pittsburgh uses him extensively to shutdown the opposing team’s best lines, even when Crosby/Malkin are hurt.

          • shiram says:

            He’s hit 25 goals or more goals twice and never got 60 points, though he might have in those shortened seasons.
            He could get more in a bigger role too, but he has not yet.

          • TomNickle says:

            Staal a 60-70 point guy? Based on what exactly?

            He’s never had more than fifty points in an NHL season and has played with two of the top 5 players in the World.

            Saying that he’s a 60-70 point guy based on 50 points in a 62 game season while logical isn’t realistic. And that point total coming in a top six role as I said is underwhelming with the talent Pittsburgh surrounded him with.

            He is not worth a lottery pick. Would I give them Desharnais and a prospect? Probably.

            But he is not an elite player, not a first line centre and not a player to build a team around.

          • Ali says:

            people who’ve played the game don’t share your opinion. I’ll go with them on that. Look at his advanced stats, every year he starts over 50% of the time in his own zone, so he’s responsible in his own end. He also averages plays about 14 minutes a game at even strength, despite all those injuries to Malkin and Crosby. Plus that and with the PK time, he’s not getting on the PP. Sullivan was out there this year before he was.

          • TomNickle says:

            Nice try with a generalized statement about people who’ve played the game. Got any examples or is this just running off at the mouth in the face of argument?

            Jordan Staal is a soon to be UFA who has not produced adequately offensively for a lottery pick. His home matchups against opposing teams’ top lines is noted, as is the fact that on the road he gets 3rd line matchups and should be excelling offensively in those circumstances. This is a two way street. What’s his focus on the road, shut down Frans Nielsen, Trevor Gillies and Matt Martin? Please.

          • Ali says:

            wow, talk about not able to have a reasonable discussion.

            Many former NHL players have praised Jordan Staal, Roenick, Dollas, Keith Jones, Momesso, Nilan. I’m sorry I haven’t been taking proper notes to keep track of them all. I also apologize for having an opinion you disagree with so vehemently.

            Also i haven’t said he’s a franchise center, or a superstar. I’ve said he solves a problem for us at center. he has 4 or 5 20+ goal seasons, he had 9pts in 6 playoff games this year, he’s 23. He’s definitely top six material. No matter how rude you get, you won’t convince me otherwise.

            Edit: I also never said to trade the lottery pick for him. I said get him, there’s a slight difference.

            Also, if you want to keep burying your head in the hand that this team isn’t too small, you can go hang out with Gauthier and Gainey and the rest of the clueless idiots.

          • TomNickle says:

            Ali,

            To make the comment “people who’ve played the game” in argument to a point is to pass the buck.

            But judging by the players you mentioned I can understand a reluctance to mention them. If you’re referring to an upgrade in size at the centre position the team has it in Eller and the soon to be drafted player.

            If you want a stop gap measure, Staal would sure fit but in my opinion he isn’t a long term solution as a top six player.

          • Ali says:

            Galchenyuk and Grigorenko aren’t 6’4. You have claimed Staal has had lots of opportunity with Malkin/Crosby injured over the prior few years. This year he had his best offensive year in just 60-odd games playing with who? Malkin had Kunitz and Neal. That leaves…ah yes, Pascale Dupuis. Powerhouse linemates.

          • TomNickle says:

            Guess you didn’t realize that Staal played the majority of the season with Dupuis and Cooke.

            They both overachieved like their centreman with 59 and 38 points respectively.

          • Ali says:

            I said he had “powerhouse” linemates like Dupuis. How is that me not noticing?

            And that’s a great argument, when he puts up points, he’s overachieving. Can’t win with that one.

          • TomNickle says:

            What else can it be called? His point ceiling through six NHL seasons is essentially 60 points with the average being much closer to 45-50.

            That’s the kind of acquisition this team needs to get away from.

          • Ali says:

            development?? He’s only 23 for Gods sake!

          • TomNickle says:

            Ali, he is developing, that I’ll easily agree on. But there is nothing in his game that’s elite(not saying you said there was).

            He can’t be counted on to produce offensively.

          • Ali says:

            by your logic Lars Eller is has a 20-30 point ceiling, and at best is a 3rd line center.

          • Ali says:

            That’s fair, but to me it seems clear that despite limited offensive opportunities (zone starts, linemates) he has proven the ability to put up 50pts a year. It’s not a huge leap to say with top six wingers he can be a 60-70 point player. I think he can be a better version of Pleks, maybe not as great on the PK, but better offensively and more consistent.

          • TomNickle says:

            He’s had more than ample opportunity to become excellent offensively with the line juggling and injuries in Pittsburgh. He hasn’t and until he does we’ll never know. But I feel he’s a highly overrated player who doesn’t bring top line ability.

    • EricInStL says:

      agree. I would dangle Gorges straight up. Or add a 2nd round pick if they want more.

      • naweed235 says:

        Why would you trade our best defensive d-man? Specially on the Habs where solid D has been an issue as of late…
        Try again…
        Eller and a 2nd rounder should get it done…

      • RGM says:

        Full NTC for the first year of his brand-new six year-contract.

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  38. aemarchand11 says:

    I read an interested article yesterday in the Edmonton Journal. Theres a piece that brings up the Scott Gomez deal, and how it high speculated that Gauthier was the one who pulled the trigger. We all remember that Bob Gainey lost his daughter around that time period. Naturally he had to focus on his family rather than his job, so Gauthier was left in charge.

    This was Bobs one tarnished moment, and in reality it may not have even been him. But he is all class for never passing the buck, even when he was relieved of his duties.

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/Murray+making+strong+case+pick/6573567/story.html#ixzz1u6ZIQle9

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Nonsense.

      Laura Gainey died in 2006. Gomez was traded for in 2009.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • issie74 says:

        Bob McGowan of Prime Time Sports interviewed Mr.George Gillette(who did not do interviews) in October 2008 anyone who heard that interview would know The Gillette Family were very hands on owners and had complete faith in BG.

        I listened to that interview and I came away with the opinion all decisions such as long term contracts went through him.

        I could be wrong but I also think the Carbonneau firing also came from the owner.

        NorthTOHab

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Gainey gambled and lost for the most part. I still believe he thought Gomez would attract some big names, which it did. The problem was that the 2nd part of the gamble was a major loss. The part about Gomez not sucking that is.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • New says:

      Thanks for the link. Interesting column and interesting take on the move. Regardless of whether Gauthier or Gilette drove the move the responsibility rests with the GM and that was Bob Gainey.

  39. TomNickle says:

    My Top 10 selections in the NHL draft

    1. Edmonton Oilers – Ryan Murray
    2. Columbus Blue Jackets – Nail Yakupov
    3. Montreal Canadiens – Alex Galchenyuk
    4. New York Islanders – Mikhail Grigorenko
    5. Columbus Blue Jackets – Filip Forsberg
    6. Anaheim Ducks – Jacob Trouba
    7. Minnesota Wild – Cody Ceci
    8. Carolina Hurricanes – Matthew Dumba
    9. Winnipeg Jets – Morgan Reilly
    10. Tampa Bay Lightning – Malcolm Subban

    - Columbus acquires the #5 overall pick and Luke Schenn from Toronto for Rick Nash.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Lol, I would not be surprised if the Islanders kept stocking up on forwards and keep ignoring their defense (even if it’s a strong year for D men). Wouldn’t be surprised if the Oilers did that as well.

      • TomNickle says:

        The Islanders will be fine on defense in a couple of years. They have some really nice defensemen in the system.

        Calvin De Haan
        Travis Hamonic
        Scott Mayfield
        Matt Donovan

        All very good players.

    • Chris says:

      I honestly doubt that the Oilers draft Murray first overall. If anything, they are trading down to pick up one of the slew of roughly equivalent defencemen, picking up a good roster player in the process.

      There are going to be teams out there willing to pay for the chance to draft Yakupov, who seems to be the best player in a not so great draft. My bet would be the Toronto Maple Leafs, who have a number of defencemen and Brian Burke would dearly love to make a splash. Rick Nash is simply too expensive. Let’s say your choice of Luke Schenn and the #5 overall pick to Edmonton for the #1 pick, which they use for Yakupov. The Leafs get the best scorer in the draft, the Oilers get a good young defenceman ready to play plus the opportunity to grab one of Ceci, Trouba, Dumba or any of the other young defencemen.

      The other team I could see desperate to take that pick off the Oilers’ hands is Minnesota, who are absolutely desperate for offence. I’m not sure that they have the defencemen to offer, though.

      But I really wonder if the Penguins don’t make a play at Yakupov, sending Jordan Staal and Simon Depres to Edmonton in exchange for that pick. Staal is not a winger, but has been forced there because of the lack of depth. Put Yakupov on Crosby’s wing and you’ve got a pretty explosive offence. Staal gives the Oilers a top 6 center, while Depres can step in immediately on the blueline. And they still get a decent mid-round draft pick in a defence-deep draft to get another one.

      Everybody knows that the Oilers can’t afford to not get defencemen, but that #1 overall pick should be more valuable in a trade than it would be for picking Ryan Murray, who is a good prospect. But will he be able to step in immediately, a la Drew Doughty, or will his learning curve be more slow, a la Alex Pietrangelo, Zach Bogosian, Jared Cowan, or Karl Alzner?

      The expectation is that a #1 overall draft pick can step in and contribute immediately. Is there any defenceman in this draft that is a shoo-in for that? I haven’t seen any consensus pick.

      This is a weak draft, and the Oilers fan base is understandably getting restless. They need a guy who can contribute this year, not in three years. Might be the perfect time to deal the pick and grab another valuable player.

      • TomNickle says:

        I don’t disagree about Edmonton Chris and I’ve been thinking quite a bit about a possible trade for that #1 overall pick. I just don’t think Tambellini is realistic enough to do it. He’ll be demanding far more than teams can offer.

        I don’t know which defensemen Burke can offer that actually seal that deal. He won’t part with Gardiner by most accounts.

        On Murray, he is playing at the Worlds so it looks very much like he can step in. My top ten was started with me having concluded that the Oilers don’t get a deal done and resign themselves to Murray.

  40. Chuck says:

    From the NHL website:

    “Philadelphia Flyers forward Claude Giroux faces a hearing Monday morning with the NHL’s Department of Player Safety for his illegal check to the head penalty against Dainius Zubrus at the 19:56 mark of the second period of their Eastern Conference Semifinal against the New Jersey Devils on Sunday night.”

    Err… I thought that the refs gave him 2 minutes for a phantom high stick…

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  41. Jim Edson says:

    No McGuire as GM……….Check
    No Roy as coach…………..Check
    Palladeau doesn’t get the Coyotes……….Check

    Good weekend!

    ———————————————————————-
    What does the Commissioner of the NHL do?

    In short, a league commissioner is the action man for the Board of Governors.

    They tell him what they want done and he works to make it happen through his subordinates while making sure that individual franchises play by the rules.

    ******** Translated if you haven’t won the Stanley Cup in 40 years your NHL team is becoming irrelevant in a sports mad city long behind MLB, NFL and NBA teams, you just tell the commissioner(who you gave a new contract at 7 plus million per) to make it happen and the rules are bent sufficiently to action the command.

  42. Dr.Rex says:

    Does anyone know for sure if Mike Babcock can speak francais?

    At least at a level of lfuency to be considered a candidate for the habs one day.

    • TomNickle says:

      The Habs had to pull teeth to speak with Jim Nill. Something tells me that Mike Illitch might put up a bit more of a fight with regard to Mike Babcock.

  43. frontenac1 says:

    I’ve just about given up on predicting suspensions.what’s the point?

  44. Timo says:

    Someone enlighten me… why is Rick Dudley so great?

  45. HabFanSince72 says:

    To those who say that Lemaire = JM = dull hockey.

    1. Lemaire has had greater success. Also, Lemaire coaches intelligent hockey that seeks to negate the other team’s advantages. That is not quite the same as advocating negative or fearful hockey.

    2. And, in any case, Jacques Martin hockey was pretty exciting in the 2010 playoffs.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • shiram says:

      Was it JM’s system or the close series full of scoring chances that was exciting?

      That said, I’ve got nothing against pursuing Lemaire for the HC job.

      • commandant says:

        Winning = exciting.

        Put a winning team on the ice and the Bell Centre will be rocking.

        Doesnt’ matter if its 1-0 or 5-4, I just want the Habs to have the best chance to win.

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        • shiram says:

          Some games are boring, 2 points or not, but if overall the team is winning most games, that sure helps the mood.

        • RGM says:

          Bingo! I’ve often said that I would rather this team win a bunch of “dull” 2-0/2-1/3-2 games than lose some “exciting” 6-4/5-3 games.

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          • shiram says:

            What’s wrong with exciting wins? ;)

          • commandant says:

            How many teams have won cups in recent history playing firewagon hockey?

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          • shiram says:

            7.

            I guess the wink was not a clear enough indicator of the joke.

          • boing007 says:

            I would prefer that they win both types. More variety.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

          • Habsrule1 says:

            boing007,
            You may have missed the question lower on the page, but why would you have such a signature. It seems like you prefer to diss our MVP rather than support him…?
            Thank God there is a pearl in that oyster.

            Go Habs Go!!

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        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Actually, aside from the fact that we were upsetting the top two teams in the league, the games were incredibly exciting. I remember those tic-tac-toe plays between Plex and Cammy. Our comeback against the Pens after Lapierre’s warp around. Dominic Moore’s goal against the Caps. Halak’s acrobatics. Etc …

          It was exciting hockey.


          Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  46. The Dude says:

    So LA’s Carter , Penner and Richards are going to win the cup…. That weird,cus when you listen to the hockey hooker’s with P.H.D’s round here they swear they were all no good party boy’s.Man,we got a track record for stupid around here that closely resembles Pee Wee Herman at a movie ,lol…. The Gainey, Gauthier, Martin”we trust gang” and everyone else don’t know Habs hockey!

    • Habsolutely says:

      I don’t have a Phd, but don’t the Kings still have to win 8 more games before they win the cup?

    • TomNickle says:

      They’re going to win the Cup?

      I’m sure they’ll be favoured now in the conference finals(like the Habs were against the Flyers) but regardless of who they play next round they’ll be up against a goalie who is Quick’s equal. They were afforded the luxury of Brian Elliot and the Blues being very mediocre for three games, that isn’t likely to happen again.

      Also, Jeff Carter has had about as much to do with the Kings success so far as Will Ferrell.

      Penner’s been effective but hardly integral and Richards has been good defensively. They haven’t been the key ingredients here.

      If you need reasons for the Kings success, Quick, Doughty, Brown and Stoll would be a good start.

      • boing007 says:

        If Carter does wake up that will make the Kings even more dangerous.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        Yeah, he conveniently left out the biggest reasons for the Kings’ success in Quick, Brown and what about that guy named Kopitar? Richards has been very effective as well and Penner is waking up, but the whole team is getting into its groove and most of the leadership and credit does not go to the players The Dude mentioned.

        And, yes, of course, they haven’t won the Cup yet.

    • RGM says:

      You like apostrophes, bro?

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  47. Viruk42 says:

    To people talking about Quebec having to wait:

    They won’t have to wait long. The move of Atlanta to Winnipeg means the NHL clearly needs to change their divisional setup. They came up with a good solution, with 4 divisions. But that meant two with 7 and two with 8, which can be workable but clearly a problem.

    So what to do? Well, what if the NHL added 2 more teams? Let’s look at the divisions they were setting up:

    Div A (8 teams): Ana, Cgy, Col, Edm, LA, Pho, SJ, Van
    Div B (8 teams): Chi, Cbs, Dal, Det, Min, Nsh, Stl, Wpg
    Div C (7 teams): Bos, Buf, Flo, Mtl, Ott, TB, Tor
    Div D (7 teams): Car, NJ, NYI, NYR, Phi, Pit, Wsh

    My thinking? They move a team like Nashville or Columbus into division D (probably Columbus). Then they add Quebec to division C and another Toronto team (Markham) to division B. Both cities have arenas and owners waiting around, afterall, and the NHL can collect more money from expansion fees than from relocation fees.

    So it would look like this:
    Div A: Ana, Cgy, Col, Edm, LA, Pho, SJ, Van
    Div B: Chi, *Cbs/Nsh*, Dal, Det, Min, Stl, *Tor2*, Wpg
    Div C: Bos, Buf, Flo, Mtl, Ott, *Que*, TB, Tor1
    Div D: Car, *Cbs/Nsh*, NJ, NYI, NYR, Phi, Pit, Wsh

    Detroit would be able to keep the rivalry with Chicago while adding a big market opponent in Toronto2. It also makes sense geographically, with the exception of Dallas. Our division makes sense adding Quebec, and would certainly increase revenue in TB and Flo as the snowbirds would have more games to go to. Cbs may not be as close to Div D teams as, say, Boston or Buffalo, but the NHL would be unlikely to seperate Toronto and Buffalo (for shared fanbase reasons) or Montreal and Boston (for rivalry reasons).

    Obviously a lot of fans are against expansion, but the NHL has had 30 teams for 12 years. The last time the NHL went 12 years without expansion was from 1979 to 1991. If they go to 13 years without expansion, which seems likely considering there is no time to set up expansion for next year, it will be the most ‘stable’ period since 1967. How much harm could adding 2 new teams do?

    • boing007 says:

      Quebec should build a new team from scratch. Like they did the first time around. Amusez-vous bien KP.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  48. JayK-47 says:

    I’ve created a quick cheat-sheet for MB. It’s plug n play and mitigates any damage that Bourque and Kaberle can do to a playoff run while not making the Habs deal from a weak position.

    CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
    My Custom Lineup
    FORWARDS
    Max Pacioretty ($1.625m) / David Desharnais ($0.850m) / Erik Cole ($4.500m)
    SCORING WINGER ($0.000m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
    Rene Bourque ($3.333m) / Lars Eller ($1.750m) / Travis Moen ($1.750m)
    Mike Blunden ($0.615m) / Ryan White ($0.645m) / Brad Staubitz ($0.575m)
    DEFENSEMEN
    P.K. Subban ($3.750m) / Josh Gorges ($3.900m)
    Andrei Markov ($5.750m) / Alexei Emelin ($1.700m)
    Tomas Kaberle ($4.250m) / HUGE NET-CLEARER ($0.000m)
    Yannick Weber ($0.850m) /
    GOALTENDERS
    Carey Price ($5.500m)
    Peter Budaj ($1.150m)
    ——
    CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
    (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
    SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $52,493,333; BONUSES: $0
    CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $11,806,667

  49. commandant says:

    So Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf got into a bar incident at 3am on Saturday Night in Helsinki after losing to the Americans at the World Championships?

    My goodness, we should check their citizenship, are we sure these guys aren’t Russians?

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  50. habsfan0 says:

    I wonder if today’s imminent announcement that the Coyotes will remain in Phoenix will have any impact on Quebec City’s construction schedule for the new arena?

  51. Chuck says:

    Love some of the talk on Toronto radio this morning that the Leafs should be compensated if the Habs pick up Dudley, specifically, having to swap their 1st round picks.

    Haha!

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    • shiram says:

      Those days are long gone, and Dudley has an out in his contract, so it’s all good and well to wait after the draft to get him over to MTL, but switching draft picks is just ridiculous.

    • boing007 says:

      Are you sure they weren’t New Yorkers?

      Richard R
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  52. aj says:

    I’m starting to doubt this Rule #48 in their player safety rulebook.
    The kind of hit is somewhat similar to the Patches/Letang hit.

  53. habsfan0 says:

    “Hands up, everyone who had the Los Angeles Kings sweeping the St. Louis Blues in a four-game Western Conference semifinal.”

    Both of Allan Walsh’s hands flew up.

  54. Thomas Le Fan says:

    The Kings have proven what I already suspected. When it comes to hockey, “Nobody knows nothing.” We were inches away from doing the same thing last year.

    Geroux deserves a few games off for the hit on Zubrus. Obvious head shot. He was in a snit over the Brodeur play (and the score). Chippy play by a pouting forward. Just plain bad sportsmanship. Oh wait! Flyer hockey!

    • Habsolutely says:

      Giroux is turning out to be a whiney little crybaby. 100 times worse than Crosby ever was.

      • commandant says:

        The NHL, suspend a star player for a big game?

        I highly doubt it.

        This will be a $2500 fine, if anything.

        The BoG only cares about player safety when its a goon running around. I mean look at the Shea Weber thing.

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        • Habsolutely says:

          sad but true.

        • aj says:

          “This will be a $2500 fine, if anything.”

          That’s what I was trying to say here last night. When superstar players like Ovechkin or Giroux will make hits like this, its a possible fine and rather than a suspension.

          Buttman and C**bell won’t risk networks broadcasting NHL games have their ratings go down by seeing superstars not playing and staying inside the pressbox.

          • Habfan10912 says:

            AJ. You could be right but I think because he’s being called for an interview he’s going to get one game.

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          • Les Canayens says:

            He did suspend Ovechkin for 3 games when he hit Zbynek Michalek back in January. However that is more like an exception to all the non-suspended star players.

          • commandant says:

            He suspended Ovechkin and Keith for 3 and 5 games, but I’m still waiting for the Playoff Suspension of a star.

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          • HabFanSince72 says:

            The year the Ducks won the cup, Pronger was suspended twice, for one game each time.

            Of course it should have been longer, but he was still suspended.


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      • boing007 says:

        In the first round he just scored goals. Now, no goals no fun.

        Richard R
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  55. HabinBurlington says:

    Too many blocked shots in games?
    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/rangers_out_to_score_big_win_P9WINDcZdhiui3tv0Qpz3M
    Interesting, at the bottom of the article is a reference to Bob Gainey’s idea back in 2008 to change the rules as related to shot blocking. I had forgotten about that, he proposed, player must have at least 1 skate on the ice in order to intentionally block a shot. Thus reducing the number of blocked shots and increase scoring.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      I agree with those who say that players should not be allowed to lie on the ice and block shots. It would be a much better game even though it would end Hal Gill’s career.

      • rhino514 says:

        Completely agree. Imagine if everyone lies on the ice where do you shoot?
        I can see players start to form walls which is already starting to happen with the way they collapse infront of the net.
        It´s small net and 6 guys can block everything from getting through if they really want to. Everyone has finally become aware of this.
        Keeping one leg on the ice would be great. Making thr goal an inch bigger would also be great, but it probably won´t ever happen.

    • Malreg says:

      It was an interesting rule proposal, but I find you rarely see players actually dive to the ice to block shots anymore. Most of the time they have one knee down, and they just get their body in the way.

      Gorges blocked a million shots this year, but you never saw him slide to do it.

      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        I think Carboneau was one of the first to use the slide to block shots and many use it today. You see it lots, especially when the whole team collapses to surround the goalie. I think it would be a good rule to force players to have at least one skate on the ice. Why not make it both? The goalie should be the only player allowed to flop about.

    • ont fan says:

      With all this 5 man collapsing around the goal and blocked shots, wouldn’t some high hard ones from the point fix that?

  56. JF says:

    I didn’t see the Kings sweeping the Blues, but I did see them winning the series. That team added scoring at the deadline (Jeff Carter) and seems to have reached the top of their game at exactly the right moment; and Jonathan Quick has arguably been the best goaltender in the playoffs. He gave up his first “bad” goal of the playoffs yesterday – but it was the only one he gave up. Before the series began, I thought that if the Kings found a way to get behind the Blues’ defence, they would solve either Halak or Elliott.

    I’m more stunned by the Devils. This is not the team that beat the Habs 3 of 4 times during the regular season. That team was decent, this one seems possessed. I confess I thought the Flyers would beat them quite easily unless Bryzgalov was awful – and I bet the Flyers thought so too. It’s their intensity and determination that is the most impressive. The Flyers simply have no answer to that ferocious forecheck. And to think that Peter De Boer is not even in the running for coach of the year.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      The play of Parise will bode well for his next contract. While I don’t mind Detroit as an organization, if they do pull off the signing of both Suter and Parise, they will be in good shape again for awhile one would think. Kind of hope they both end up in Minnesota. (Obviously would prefer with Habs, but don’t see that happening)

      • bel33 says:

        One can hope that the effect of having a new GM in Bergevin, and a new HC say in Quenneville (just go with it..) may have a positive change on the Habs’ ability to entice some good free agents to take a chance on bringing the Habs back to glory.

        One can hope! Oh geez…. forgot about the Gomez effect. That must be solved first.

        Cheers!

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        There should be a case study of how to set up for a contract year, with Zach Parisé as one extreme and our friend Andrei Kostitsyn on the other.

        I think, especially after the contract Mikhail Grabovski got from the Leafs, that Andrei’s upper limit for his contract could have been five years, $25 million. Barring a miraculous return during this series and another very strong series after that, he’s looking at a max of 3 years, $10 million. The KHL is more probable than even that.

        Amazing how dumb players can be with their careers sometimes. If he had kept his nose clean and just played for the Preds at the mediocre level he’s performed at in Montreal before this year, he’d be a rich(er) man having his pick of situations come July 1. He may now be spending next season white-knuckling it on an Illyuchin 100 times a winter.

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  57. FanCritic says:

    Giroux won’t get suspended because Zubrus returned to play so they’ll just call it a hit. he may get a fine. big deal, that won’t solve hit’s to the head. plus he’s a star for Philly an average player he would probably get a game or three….

    • HabinBurlington says:

      TSN pointed out that the Klesla hit on Halischuk received a suspension and Halischuk returned to action in the same game also.

      I think the factor will be that this league hates suspending stars, especially when the team they play for has an owner who owns the Cable Company who gave the league its big US Network Deal.

      Jeremy Jacobs = No players on his team shall be suspended
      Ed Snider = No players on his team shall be suspended

      See, the same rules apply to all owners whom Gary Bettman chooses to favour.

      • Shane1313 says:

        Then again maybe Shanahan, will take this step and suspend a star. That would be a good statement, even just for a game.

      • Habsolutely says:

        I was kinda hoping that since Molson signed a big deal with the NHL that we would be on that list as well.

        • jedimyrmidon says:

          I would hope that the Habs can win and perform while being treated fairly by the league disciplinarians.

          In any case, the Habs are the Habs, a renown franchise with a massive fanbase in Canada, so that automatically disqualifies them.

          Seriously though, finding a scapegoat in the stanchion design after the Chara-Max Pac incident was a complete joke. What does improving the design do? Make it more safe to bash people’s head into it at 30km/h? Right… Kinda hard not to believe the conspiracy theories then.

  58. habstrinifan says:

    Good Morning HabinSurrey..read your hello late last night. I am going to be in Vancouver until Friday.

    Thanks for the shout-out.

  59. Cal says:

    Giroux hit on Zubrus looks like the way Torres made sure his shoulder made contact with head. 10 games for Giroux? Probably just a fine with Shamahan in charge.

  60. HabFanSince72 says:

    This morning I’d like to give a Nelson Munz style Ha Ha to Quebec mayor Regis Labeaume and pig at the trough schlockmeister Pierre Karl Peladeau.

    HaHa.

    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Agreed. I can’t believe the taxpayers of Québec are paying to build an arena for Pierre Karl Péladeau, as if they haven’t already paid for it ten times over with their cable bills. And as if they won’t pay for it through the nose with Vidéotron’s new ‘content’ packages, when he does finally own the Nordiques.

      It will never fly in Gary Bettman’s NHL, but the Nordiques should be a community-owned team like the Packers.

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      • Cal says:

        Wang may still move his Islanders to Quebec. He’s lost an average of $20 mil/year for over 10 years now. League will be more fun with Quebec in it.

        • Gumper Knows Best says:

          April 10, 2012

          Nassau Coliseum’s asbestos problem could be the Barclays Center’s biggest coup.

          A state investigation into claims that the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum — where the New York Islanders’ hockey team plays its home games — is filled with the cancer-causing fiber could bring the team to the $1-billion, asbestos-free Prospect Heights arena if the lethal substance isn’t removed by the start of next season.

          The state Department of Labor launched a probe of the Long Island sports complex on March 30, after more than 75 workers alleged the facility was filled with asbestos in a bombshell lawsuit filed against Nassau County, which owns the Coliseum.

          A deal with the National Hockey League requires the Islanders play on Long Island, which, surprisingly to some, includes Brooklyn at its western tip.

          An asbestos-abetted move to Brooklyn is all but inevitable

          http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/35/15/all_islandersinbrooklyn_2012_04_13_bk.html

          • Cal says:

            Interesting. Looks like Quebec will have to wait for Tampa to implode then. Unless no one goes to games in Brooklyn, which is very likely.

          • jmsheehy19 says:

            Brooklyn is starting to look inevetible sooner rather than later. I wonder how Tavares plays in skinny jeans and pink wayfarers.

  61. Gumper Knows Best says:

    Dudley will be a good pick up joining old Sabres team mate Larry Carriere. New org. might have 3-4 AGMS with different titles. Francois Gigeure and Blair Mackasey would also be great adds and a fantastic mish mash of local French English people to keep everyone happy

    Timing of Dudley joining might be the same as when Chiarelli moved to Boston from Ottawa. Even though Chiarelli signed in May 2006, he only joined the Bruins on July 15 because of draft and UFA Ottawa knowledge and plans. Jeff Gorton was there before and you have to wonder why he was let go. He signed Chara and Savard. Drafted Kessel Lucic and Marchand in that 1 draft in 2006. Traded Rask for Raycroft

  62. HabinBurlington says:

    So Jack Todd thinks the Habs should/could convince Lemaire to coach the Habs.

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/05/06/canadiens-should-contact-jacques-lemaire-about-coaching-job/

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I read he has no interest in the pressure cooker. He’d probably bring Big Bird with him I bet.

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      • commandant says:

        Yeah, he’s said a few times that he doesn’t want the job.

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        • habstrinifan says:

          It has been reported that Gainey had offered the coaching job to Lemaire but that Lenaire wanted over 1mill and Gainey went to JM. More recently it was also repored that PG offered the job to Lemaire who turned it down and PG promoted RC.

          Amazing how so mnay of PG moves looks like he took a minute off to ‘handle a problem’ and then went back to whatever he was doing.

          • boing007 says:

            Watering his bean sprouts?

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          • Habsrule1 says:

            boing007,
            I’m a bit perplexed by your sig. Are you putting down the Habs star goaltender, their MVP really, on a Habs website?
            I’m puzzled. Why would you do that?

            Go Habs Go!!

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    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I’ve been saying this for a while.

      Marc Crawford has been fired from his last four coaching jobs and Bob Hartley is another martinet. Amongst experienced coaches Lemaire is the best. As long as he doesn’t give Mario a job.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Whodathunkit, HF72 and Jack Todd on the same page! ;-)

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        The point Jack Todd makes is valid. It doesn’t hurt to ask. In the right environment, with the right people in place and with enough autonomy, Jacques Lemaire could be tempted.

        As far as Mario, we agree that he was criminally unprepared for the job of head coach back in the day, but he had a productive career as an assistant notably for Jacques Lemaire in Minnesota. If the latter wants him and thinks he brings something to the coaching staff, then by all means let him in. That would be Mr. Lemaire’s decision, and he would want that level of autonomy.

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        • Cal says:

          Jacques Lemaire hockey = JM hockey. Thought everyone around here was done with “dull” hockey? Oh, right….it does work in the playoffs, doesn’t it? ;)

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            I’m not saying he’s my preferred choice, but if the team does its due diligence and talks to a lot of candidates, they certainly should inquire about Mr. Lemaire.

            As far as the dull-as-death style both Jacques employ, this is the kind of thing you find out about in an interview. If the GM has certain views on how the game should be played, and the coach candidate doesn’t fit that philosophy, then the team doesn’t hire him. We get a sense that Mr. Bergevin’s vision was seen favourably by Geoff Molson, so the GM would have the support of his owner in making a coaching choice that synched with this vision.

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          • HabinBurlington says:

            My reponse to you UCE is sarcastic, but isn’t most GM’s philosophy Just Win Baby!

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Sarcasm noted, but I disagree. Al Davis The Crooked is the author of the “Just Win, Baby” quote, and he still had a philosophy for his team that guided the way he drafted and traded and coached. Huge linemen, as opposed to the Broncos’ smaller, mobile, zone-blocking linemen. A strong running game tied into vertical passing game, as opposed to the 49′ers West Coast Offence of high-percentage short passes and almost absent ground game. A premium on veterans, no matter the eroding skills or off-field issues, compared to the Dick Vermeil Eagles choirboy image.

            For the Canadiens, we discussed how the personnel assembled by Bob Gainey for his Virage Vitesse in 2009 didn’t fit well with the style of Jacques Martin. We’ve talked about how the Canadiens would sit back with a lead in the third and allow other teams to tie the score and eventually win. We’ve discussed how the team, despite the noble intentions, was overmatched by the Boston thugs when the refs would, invariably, put away the whistles and let them slay, er, play. So another example that while GM’s ultimately want to win, they have differing visions of how to get there.

            Mr. Bergevin has a tough task ahead of him, but a way to make it easier is to ensure his coaching staff and management staff are on the same page, and give each other a chance to win.

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            How about it NHL? No fighting, just hockey?

            http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

      • boing007 says:

        If Mario is part of the package, fuhgeddaboutit.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • CanadienBoy says:

      Hate boring hockey no Thanks

    • Newf_Habster says:

      Hell no. I want no boring hockey game in Montreal. And, it forced Guy Lafleur, my all-time Hab player, to end his career early.

      No thanks to Lemaire!

  63. Ian Cobb says:

    Very good chance that the two largest markets may host the Stanley Cup this year. L.A. and New (Jersey or York)

    Yes indeed! the Yanks now own our game.!

    All we are left with is the Don!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Not sure about LA but the Devils don’t get a lot of buzz in NY. Its a Ranger market. Whats upsetting for this fan is the total lack of respect the league has for its core fans either the many in Canada or the few of us in the States. To have only one game on a Saturday and playing it at 1230 is beyond a slap in the face. And a west coast game starting at 1230 ( there time) while the easy coast game at night just plain baffles this guys mind. Cheers Ian.
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  64. Habfan10912 says:

    Listening to talk radio in NY this morning and my blood is beginning to boil. Ranger Fans are upset over the hit by Ovie and Devils fans are upset over the hit by Girioux. They are saying all they want is consistancy by the league, if the plays were penalies on the ice they should be subject to suspension yada yada yada.
    When Chara hit patches 3 hours after the puck was moved up ice and Patches he’d was shoved into the turnbuckle all we heard was friggin crickets around the league as Milbury, Cherry, PJ Stock and the other goon mouth pieces if the league ( you too Mckenzie) called it a hockey play and blamed the friggin rink.
    Doesn’t feel very good does it Ranger and Devilish fans when it happens to you. You know what? They were hockey plays. Cricket. Cricket. Cricket.

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    • Shane1313 says:

      I feel you. After the Pac hit, I was losing it…and others around me were too. At the same time guys like Cherry and the many others, were saying “hockey play”. It was infuriating. Now I think not just them, but everyone is seeing it now.
      I do remember in Nassau Colisseum(Islanders), the fans booed Chara..I always wondered whether that was habs fan who drove down or not. Either way..good!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Shoe is firmly on the other foot now eh Jim? Interesting how the hate/jealousy of the Habs was strong league wide that no one from around the league condemned Chara. In many ways that hit was the precipice, and the league chose not to deal with it. Everything is downhill since. That was the proof that Star Players get away with murder in this league.

      While 4th line wingers get the book thrown at them to keep the lawyers in New York happy that they have complete control of the game…..

    • Marc10 says:

      Spot on.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      It is all about the money boys and girls. Players come a distant 2nd.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Is it just me? I thought the Ovie hit was completely clean. He only left his feet as a result of the impact. It wasn’t a blindside hit and he didn’t target the head.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I didn’t mind that hit either, thought it was pure reactionary, after losing puck saw guy coming at him and made sure he didn’t get the worst of it.

      • Shane1313 says:

        Same with me. The ovie was fine, but just on the edge. I wouldn’t do a supsension. Giroux maybe a game, because you can tell he was hunting and it was the head. Don’t think he meant it, but that’s the deal, doesn’t matter

  65. Duke_Rauol says:

    I was looking for some video of the Giroux hit on Zubrus, on the nhl site and seems to be no mention of it. Does this mean Shanahan will not be reviewing?

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  66. commandant says:

    Colton Sissons, a rugged forward and the captain of the Kelowna Rockets.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/05/07/nhl-draft-prospect-32-colton-sissons/

    Go Habs Go!
    Visit Your NHL Draft Headquarters
    http://lastwordonsports.com/category/lastwordblog/nhldraft/

  67. HabinBurlington says:

    The TOronto papers seems to think it is a foregone conclusion that Dudley is headed East.

    http://www.torontosun.com/2012/05/06/leafs-dudley-expected-to-join-habs

    • The Cat says:

      When I woke up at 4am, RDS wrote it on their ticker like it was a done deal. It said ” Rick Dudley avec le canadien!”

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Malreg says:

      Dreger reported that it’s just a matter time. Toronto does not want to let him go before the draft, because he has done extensive scouting work for them, and he would be able to share all that info with us.

  68. Marc10 says:

    New GM… Check
    Bruins eliminated… Check
    Halakites silenced… Check

    Summer is just around the corner…

  69. CanadienBoy says:

    So Quenneville as coach and Dudley as assistant GM + Bergevin as GM look pretty good to me, compare to u know what ,funny how a charismatic GM will attract the right peoples

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I am optimistic as well, but lets not count our chickens before they hatch.

      Edit: The more I read the T.O. papers it seems like indeed Dudley is on his way.

  70. Habfan10912 says:

    Good Morning All! Anybody else feel the Hab’s will have a coach by the end of the week? Quenneville as HD? Does anyone know his ability to speak French. He intrigues me.

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    • HabinBurlington says:

      It is my understanding he speaks very little French, but would probably pick up fairly quikly. Either way, I would love to see our team get Quenneville. I just can’t believe the Hawks think he is their problem.

      If indeed the Hawks fire Joel, Stan Bowman will be proving he knows little about managing that hockey team. Their loss our gain!

      Morning Jim, is Chris going to be moving sluggishly this morning? :)

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Morning Gerald. Don’t think we’ll hear from Chrisypoo this morning. I”m over an hour away from him but if I were closer I’d be banging on his door right now. :)

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        • HabinBurlington says:

          hehe, reminds me of my father. His adage was the later I came in at night, the earlier he would make up the next morning (usually a Saturday) to help him work on things. Have a good day Jim.

          • The Cat says:

            I hear ya! Nothing used to beat riding on a tractor in the blazing sun after a bender lol

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • CanadienBoy says:

        Same here surprise they will let him go and u just don’t pass on a guy like that

    • Newf_Habster says:

      He learned and spoke French in high school so I assume his French is now rusty.

  71. steve17 says:

    After listening to the Hot Stove, I wouldn’t mind if Bergevin hired Quenneville, and Robinson as his assistant and keep Cunneyworth. It seems it is just a matter of time until Dudley joins the Habs as the assistant GM!

    Habfan17

  72. The Cat says:

    Its going to take a team thats very tough in the paint to beat the Kings. Is there a “In the paint” goal stat somewhere?

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good morning Cat. I too am very impressed with the Kings. Its amazing that they nearly missed the playoffs. Maybe some teams (NJ) are built for a playoffs run as opposed to the marathon regular season. Very impressed with LA and very surprised with the Devils.

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  73. The Cat says:

    The Kings look unstoppable. Dustin Brown is a player Ive liked for many years, I remember a few years back, him being the only LA player not in the negative, he was like a +3 and the rest were all worse than -5 or something like that.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Hard to comprehend why the rumours persisted leading up to trade deadline day that Kings were shopping Brown. Some wondered if it was so they could give the C to Mike Richards.

      Brown has been their Conn Smythe winner thus far.

      Even though Richards and Carter play on LA I find it easy to cheer for the Kings.


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