AK46 shockwaves


August was just too quiet, wasn’t it?
Until a Belarussian website, goals.by, interviewed the Brothers Kostitsyn.

Pat Hickey is not impressed and writes:

With the addition of Erik Cole and the continued development of Max Pacioretty, there’s a strong possibility Kostitsyn will start the season on the third line, but someone who cared about the team would see the possibility of contributing to Lars Eller’s development as an opportunity.

Kostitsyn was the Canadiens’ first-round draft choice in 2003 and has developed into a consistent 20-goal scorer who is a plus-16 for his career. But there is a sense of frustration because most people believe that with his strength and his shot, he could be much better.

But Kostitsyn’s streaky play and his attitude are not assets in what has become a tight dressing room, and it’s time to engage in some addition by subtraction.

Here’s Arpon’s account, including links to a Google translation that has many head-scratchers.

Example: Well, you saw Well, as I started the season. It’s not bad, I was playing, just shove me started on the third or fourth link.

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  1. Stuck_in_To. says:

    I cannot stomach reading all this reactionary “journalism” so could one of you with a stronger constitution inform me whether any writer has tried to contact A.K. to find out whether he actually stands behind any of this?

  2. Chrisadiens says:

    So the same “reporter” (Slava Malamud) is now stirring things up with Bryzgalov. Maybe we should take what this guy says with a grain of salt?

    Bryzgalov to sports.ru: Russia’s youth hockey system is in an ugly shape, as is the entire country #Flyers #PutinWillSeeYouNow

    Bryzgalov to sports.ru: Real NHL stars wouldn’t play in #KHL. In the NHL they can win something to be proud of, not here. #Flyers

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  3. HardHabits says:

    I don’t know what every one is worried about. This is Andrei InKostitsyn we’re talking about.

    He’ll be giving numerous quotes to reporters during the months of November and February about how much he loves Martin, his coaching style and his defence first oriented hockey system.

    These quotes will be streaky though, and come in bunches. We wont hear much else from him for the remainder of the season though and I imagine he’ll really clamp it down come play-off time. He should be silent by then.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      I just hope that when all this HIO stuff gets reported back to AK, something doesn’t get lost in the translation and he’ll get the wrong impression of what we think of him.
      Hmmmm, what do we think of him? I’m confused.
      I could use a good translation myself.

  4. Tony McLean says:

    Agree with Hickey, shop him.

    I can’t be the only one wanting revenge against Chara, Julien & Co. Do you think Toe Blake or Scotty Bowman would have let them get away with it?

  5. punkster says:

    A good 3rd line player utters a few unfortunate comments about his coach and suddenly this place is full of modern management gurus.

    I’ve grown to like AK over the past year and hope this tempest in a teapot doesn’t hurt him or the team. However, the coach is the boss and nobody’s going to change that fact or the coach’s style. AK will just have to deal with it in a way a number of others did not.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • JohnBellyful says:

      What this team needs to do is go on a one-week retreat before training camp. Learn how to become one big happy family. Players get to see the real Martin, the prank-loving, joke-telling, banjo-playing, poutine-making, risk-taking, hail-fellow-well-met person away from the rink that few of us really know.
      And Martin gets to see players who are more than a name and a number on their sweater.
      After one week of paintballing, skydiving, touch tag, hide-and-seek, chess, jello wrestling, who-can-hold-their-breath-the-longest-underwater-in-the-hot-tub, charades,and pyramid building, this team would be one big, happy, UNITED family poised to take on the world.
      (Well, we’d still need a goon.)

      • HardHabits says:

        Martin will be visiting Max Pacioretty next week and when asked a question from reporters about possible line combinations for the top 6 Martin will glow about Max but will also mention “the other guy” as a possibility.

        • JohnBellyful says:

          Oh, I HATE puzzles.
          “The other guy.” Is it …………………..wait, don’t tell me …………. is it……………..hmmmm, can’t be Chara, he’s the other guy whenever you Google Pacioretty, but he plays for the Bruins…….. Other guy. Other guy. Other guy …………….hey, is there a trade in the offing!!?? That Martin, what a sphinx.

  6. athanor says:

    That link at the top is to the wrong article. It’s an interview with Artem Demkov.
    Ak’s “interview” was really a quick 15 minute or so chat (complete with emoticons) that jumped around on a bunch of different topics, from AK’s kid to SK’s Hollywood image, to how they like playing against each other, why they are training with the junior team, and to AK’s season and his health issues in the past. He didn’t lay into Martin, just said he didn’t understand how he was handled. He isn’t thinking about leaving Montreal and said his agent told him: just play hockey.

    It really is a tempest in a teapot.

    • TorontoHabsFan says:

      Shhh…today is “Rip on Jacques Martin Day”! The article is just further proof of his obvious and overwhelming awfulness.

      Personally I think we still need to address this team’s lack of grit and size.

  7. el heffe says:

    dance puppets. dance

    nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

  8. JohnBellyful says:

    Submission No. 263, NHL Suggestion Box:
    Guys, why do the players persist in using those fancy-schmancy sticks that break at the most inopportune times? Sure, they give more sling to the shot, but still, it’s often annoying to see them separate when a golden scoring opportunity presents itself. You know what the players should be doing? Wrapping their hockey sticks in duct tape. Those suckers would never break, even when you banged your stick on the crossbar after making a bonehead pass that cost your team a goal.
    Duct tape: it’s strong, it’s flexible — and it’s long-lasting, which is more than you can say about today’s hockey sticks.

  9. gerrybell says:

    i love the debate over the lines. no matter what anyone suggests, we all know that more than one hab will get hurt in preseason and we will spend the rest of the year wondering what could have been.


    • shiram says:

      I don’t know that.

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      It would help the team alot if they knew who that player was, then they could possibly sign a UFA to replace him. Can you just send JM or PG a quick note with who it is. hehe

    • JohnBellyful says:

      I am not opposed to the discussion over lines. In fact, one of my posts invited the mathematically-minded contributors to this site to produce a list of ALL possible line combinations and then we could vote on which ones make the most sense. The consensus choices could then be forwarded to Mr. Martin, who I suspect has that list already and is working his way through it.

  10. Marc10 says:

    I don’t think JM or anyone else on the team will lose sleep over this. Maybe he uses his ‘hurt feelings’ to motivate himself like Max did when he was recalled. Seeing as he’ll likely be gone without any return at the end of the season… I hope he does it on the back of his best season with a ring on his finger.

    Belorussians sure like to talk. I hope he shows up in shape this year. All the other guys will…

  11. HabinBurlington says:

    It is often said that Winning cures Everything.

    If indeed the biggest dilemna facing this current team is having too many Top 6 Power Forwards, this can only bode well for the team. It is very realistic that we can have 2 Dynamic Scoring lines on this team. In fact our 2nd and 3rd lines may even become 2a and 2b. Having this balance should actually feed JM’s systems, he will be able to roll these lines equally and finally have a true energy 4th line.

    Obviously I am looking at this in the most optimistic fashion, but not unrealistic. Looking at the past 2 seasons and having to watch the team put Darche or Moen or Halpern on our 1st and 2nd lines has not only limited the scoring of those lines, but took away some of the limited muscle this team has. Giving a 4th line like Moen,White,Darche,Enqvist (sorry John Bellyfull just love this 4line stuff) a chance to play to their strengths will help finally wear out opposing Dmen giving our top lines even better opportunities.

    If this team can get off to a quick start, we may end up with 2-3 really good lines. This could mute the 3rd line talk, and rather have each line competing to be the #1 line.

    Must be Friday, cause I am full of optimism!

    • patience is a virtue says:

      Well said. But much depends on the butcher’s bill (i.e. injuries or not).

      It will be good to have 5 top 6 wingers when 1 or more of them inevitably goes down to injury – let’s just hope it’s not Cam or Gio.

      But I love the optimistic idea of Eller or DD becoming a legit 2b centre this season.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Agree, injuries are the wild card in all this. And the other thing is, if indeed we finally have our old Andrei Markov back, the forwards look even better.

    • Chrisadiens says:

      Good post. You just put me in a better mood. Heading west for the NASCAR race, and the weather looks terrible for Sunday.

      Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Where you sitting at The Glen? Used to go to that track every summer for this race, but my driver is long retired now. Don’t know, ever since the France Family sold its soul to the big networks I just don’t find NASCAR the same anymore.

        Lived on Lake Norman for a couple years and got to know alot of drivers and crew chiefs. Back then, most of them were very approachable, todays new breed of drivers just arent the same.

        Did go to the Sprint Car Races here in Southern Ont. the other week, Tony Stewart won his first every World of Outlaws race. Pretty cool, shook his hand and chatted for a bit with him, got some good pics of him and his car.

        Enjoy your weeknd, please tell me you aren’t cheering for Jimmie Johnson!

        • Chrisadiens says:

          We’re sitting in the new “silver” section. Its off turn 1. I’ve just recently become a fan a couple of years ago.

          Not a JJ fan, Smoke and Logano are my guys. Was at the Dover race where Logano flipped a bunch of times. Been a fan of his since. That’s pretty cool you got to meet Smoke!

          Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            His little girlfriend was there, she races on the Outlaw series. Not a whole lot to look at , but its not like Smoke is gonna be modelling Briefs like Markie Mark anytime soon either !

            Enjoy the race, love that smell of the cars going by! First lap before Green flag my arms always get goosebumps, then the cars race by next lap and everything is good! Too bad all the tracks changed their policies. We used to go to Michigan with a coffin of a cooler we stored it at the fence on the frontstretch then bring smaller coolers that could only hold 24 cans up to our seats! Not unusual to put back 36 American cold ones at Michigan on a Hot June/August raceday!

            Okay, now I wish at was the Glen this weekend.

          • Chrisadiens says:

            NASCAR really does get all 5 senses going. I always thought there should be an air freshener scented like fuel, rubber and exhaust. They could call it “NASC-AIR”. The marketing writes itself!

            Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  12. ooder says:

    well it’s true, AK46 started the season great.. which lead to JM making the contract comment (smooth move).
    and then he placed ak46 with Gomez which just stalled him. When that didn’t work (i mean it’s gomez common) he placed ak46 on the 3rd line.
    personally i don’t think it’s that bad because he was playing with Eller who is a very talented young guy.
    but i can see why ak feels frustrated
    The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given

  13. veryhabby says:

    I don’t think we should take sides as both are to take some blame. AK is allowed to feel what he does. It was a mistake to talk media as he did, maybe he is frustrated and sees how happy his bro is our of Mtl. And he makes a dumb move.

    But MArtin is to blame too. I teach pol how to relate successfully with others. Biggest thong is to understand that each person needs to be treated individually. Obviously AK needs to see a coach who cares. Some players don’t need that. Martin can’t say” well this is who I am and how I deal with people”. To succeed u have to deal with each person according to their personality. So it’s not thatartim can’t relate to kids. He can’t relate to players who need more leadership/relationship from their coach. And often that’s young players, sometimes not. Lat, Sk, Poul and now AK all seem to have needed more from their coach. It is unfortunate that management choices not to resolve this issue, but rather ship them out asap. That’s a huge mistake by our GM. Our team at the end is worst for it.

    Let’s see what our GM, coach, player do to resolve this. Track record shows team will not be better for it .

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      In an office environment or at a regular job site, you’re right that there will be different personalities and skill sets and people should be put in a position where they can succeed and treated as individuals.

      This analogy breaks down though when you’re talking about team sports. In this environment, like in the army or the fire hall or in a police department, for example, there tends to be a self-selection of candidates who want to be part of the team and will embrace the culture and hierarchy. In these environments there is no room for a pouty whiny me-first lazy crybaby like Andrei Kostitsyn or Alexei Kovalev or Mike Comrie.

      So yes, lots of HR programs and velvet-glove management in the workplace, but not at the New Forum. We’re a hockey team for Christ’s sake. You want more ice time? Go out there and play like you do.

      For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.


  14. centre hice says:

    Plekanec should play with the 2 best wingers.

    Cammalleri – Plekanec – Gionta
    Pacioretty – Eller – Cole
    Kostitsyn – Gomez – Desharnais
    Moen – ?(UFA Vet) – Darche/White

    • G-Man says:

      Call it the tiny tot line? They need the space provided by a Cole or a MaxPac. Whenever all 3 played together last year, it didin’t work. No space.

    • shiram says:

      I think the 4th line definately could be Moen-White-Darche, White played center.
      Gomez will get his chance at proving last season was fluke, he most likely will start with 2 top 6 wingers.

      So what I think the lines will be…
      Pleks centering Cammy, and Cole.
      Gomez centering Gio and one of MaxPac or AK
      DD centering Eller and one of AK or MaxPAc
      And White centering Moen and Darche

      The 2 top lines each need a big body that can clear some space and clutter the net.
      Have to give the possibility that Max needs some adjustement time, and he did work and have synergy with DD, so some switch around could happen.

      But JM is weird when it comes to line… we’ll know in less than 2 months!

      If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

    • mike3131 says:

      – Gomez + AK = Bad chemistry
      AK was our leading scorer while with Plekanec and Cammy but then he stopped producing when JM placed him on the Gomez line.
      – ?(UFA Vet) = Engqvist?
      That spot is Engqvist’s to lose in camp. And he is big, defensive minded and a RH shot. I say give him PK minutes in the preseason and see how he does.
      Also someone made an interesting point/line combo yesterday in regards to Arpon Basu’s article saying that MaxPac should play with DD and AK should stick with Plecky and Cammy. Assuming Eller’s out, he suggested opening day lines should look like this…

      Cole – Gomez – Gionta
      Cammy – Plek – AK
      Max – DD – Darche
      Moen – Engqvist – White

      My only problem is Cole would play on the LW when he says he’s more comfortable on his off-wing. We’ll see what JM does…

      • mtgoat says:

        Think you have great lines. AK would be a loss if not used right and he is strong .Could be 30 goal scorer if Coach would leave him on right line (plek and cammy) but coach alway puts some one having problems with plek to get them started and AK usually get moved and takes a few games to mesh with new line but usually get it going. Not saying AK is the be all to the team but he has the strengh to be a big reason to make it go.

  15. The Dude says:

    YES,lets blame the athlete and not the Coach! Has Martin won ANYTHING?”Count Chocula look-alike contest ?”
    This is the problem of too much faith and no analytic skill-set but stats, with fans around here.AK’s finally maturing “he’d rock playing for Boston or Philly next season” and we’re gonna throw him under the bus,STUPID!

    • last i checked we havent done anything with kostitsyn other than give him an opportunity every season

      who knows what to make of this interview, what could have been taken out of context, etc

      im not a huge martin fan but im not out to get the guy for no reason like a lot of folks here

      wait for the whole story to come out man

    • centre hice says:

      Has Kostitsyn won anything?

    • Feraco says:

      So many people seem so quick to kick this guy out of town.
      Who do we plan on replacing him with?

      Chris Drury?
      Cory Stillman?

      Give me a break.
      Why not try explaining to him that he is a valuable piece on the team and he is being moved up and down because he is VERSATILE. Then offer him a 2 yr contract perhaps to show you have a place for him?

      Molson Ex mon ami

      • shiram says:

        I like the way you think, but the issue seems to be JM will not have those kinds of talk. Hopefully the new assistant is a good communicator…

        If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

        • Feraco says:

          Its seems to be a dangerous route to take. Especially when you look at ability to trade a player, his value goes down!

          Personally I think everything will work itself out but would hate to lose this guy to FA for Nadda.

          Molson Ex mon ami

      • 24 Cups says:

        Feraco – Samsonov would look good in a Hab jersey.

  16. patience is a virtue says:

    “Shockwaves”? Oh my.

    The most shocking thing around here is the ill-informed tendency to bash Kostitsyn because scouts ranked him much higher than Geztlaf, Perry and Richards leading up to the 2002-2003 draft. Such 20/20 hindsight-moaning is laughable.

    AK’s comments are not so laughable. They were obviously purposeful. I’d guess he’s bitter with Martin, envious of his little brother’s escape from hockey mad and somewhat zenophobic Montreal, and worried about what Eric Cole’s arrival means for his prospects during the season to come – a contract year, as Martin is fond of pointing out to the media.

    The team made a statement by picking up Cole. AK has returned fire, directly at a coach he does not like. Note there were no negative vibes directed at anyone else or the Habs organization during his interview.

    Not sure how it will play out.

    I am sure that the under-estimation of what AK brings to the team is atrocious on this board. He is a team leader in hits and points, scoring at a 20+ goal/82 game pace in all of his 4 full years in the show.

    The statistics do not lie – see Lions in Winter’s balanced overview of his value as a solid 20 goal scorer here http://www.lionsinwinter.ca/2011/03/ideal-20-goalscorer.html

    and their compilations on scoring chances and points during last season’s playoff series vs. Boston here http://www.lionsinwinter.ca/2011/08/habs-scoring-chance-breakdown.html

    AK scores more game winners than most, plays against top opposition, and he has one of the best shots and passes on the team. He is also improving defensively year by year. No, he is not a classic power forward. But he does win battles on the boards by knocking opponents ass over tea kettle. Yes, he likes to hold on to the puck – he is patient and skilled with it, which seems to confuse some posters who think that Cam Neely and Martin St. Louis are the only two kinds of wingers a winning team needs.

    No, AK does not score 60-80 points a season. He’d make $5M+ if he did. He scores 40-50. Consistently. Despite being hot and cold during any given season. And he makes an appropriate $3.25M.

    Every team, and the Habs included, needs skilled contributors like Kostitsyn. If the Habs lose him without adequate compensation it will be much more serious than losing his brother, Latendress, D’Agostini and O’Byrne put together.

    • G-Man says:

      At best, AK is a streaky forward that hits and scores 20 to 25 goals a season, at times not scoring for 20 games. That’s 3rd line material, no matter how you slice it. The better the team becomes, the more his stock drops.

      • shiram says:

        A 20-25 goal scorer, that can hit, and is a great third line winger, possible top 6 player. He is not the bonafide top 6 guy we expected, but he still has great worth.
        How easy do you think it is to find a 20-25 goal scorer for your third line?

        If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

      • patience is a virtue says:

        3rd line material?! We’ll be so lucky (i.e. injury free).

        There are very few teams who don’t have a 20-25 goal scorer or two as their 3rd and 4th wingers. Those who don’t wish they did. Very few have 25-35 goal scorers in those slots.

        And AK almost NEVER goes 20 game without scoring. Maybe once? You tell me. Last year the longest was 12 games.

        More importantly, because he is an excellent passer he creates more goals with his assists than most of his teammates (i.e. he has a lot of 1st assists where he created goal scoring opportunities – see the LiW write up for details).

        sorry, you’re just towing the status quo anti-AK line here without offering facts/evidence.

        • TorontoHabsFan says:

          “And AK almost NEVER goes 20 game without scoring. Maybe once? You tell me. Last year the longest was 12 games.”

          True, that was an exaggeration. But last season he had goal-less streaks of:

          7 games
          9 games
          9 games
          12 games
          5 games

          The year before? Goal-less streaks of:

          16 games (actually he had 1 goal in the first 20 games)
          5 games
          13 games
          6 games

          The year before that? Goal-less streaks of:

          10 games (1 goal in the first 13 games)
          6 games
          5 games
          6 games
          8 games

          I don’t think anybody would argue that Kostitsyn isn’t a streaky goalscorer.

          • shiram says:

            He is still an above 0.5ppg player though.

            If you don’t grok it, drokk it!

          • patience is a virtue says:

            Agreed. Most talented goal scorers are streaky – see Cammalleri, Mike. AK is just a couple of notches lower on the overall scale. But anyone who thinks a consistent 20+ goal scorer who can hit and pass and score game winners and pp goals when they matter isn’t a top 6 winger is nutso.

            We’d be blessed to have him on the third line this year – watch what AK does to lower level competition after 4 years of playing against the NHL’s best.

          • TorontoHabsFan says:

            Very true. Of course Frolov was a 0.68 PPG player who wasn’t offered a contract in the NHL this off-season. He and Andrei share a lot of the same criticisms – abundantly talented but mercurial.

            I don’t hate Kostitsyn, not by a long shot. I think he’s a very good 2nd line/excellent 3rd line player. The only thing that’s keeping him from being that #1 winger is his own spotty play. There’s no reason why, with that shot and those feet, that he can’t be a 30g 30a player in this league. We’ve all expressed frustration watching him disappear as a game continues.

            As I said last night, if he feels that he’s a top line player – this is the ideal time for him to prove it – after this season he’s a free man and where he ends up is entirely up to him.

      • mtgoat says:

        G-man are you watching the same game as me ? If you do not realize that AK is a secound liner to first line you are asleep. Read patience is a virtue and learn he seem to have right idea. Cole wile come with the same game as AK and will light a fire under gomez this might put AK and plek together for season and the Two will light up for #1 line

        • G-Man says:

          I am not asleep. I watched AK- lots of perimeter play nowhere near the net- and people are shocked he didn’t produce with Gomez. What a surprise. If he was such a legit 2nd liner, why did he play on the 3rd line when there were injuries?
          Cole is with Pleks and Cammy while MaxPac is with Gomez and Gionta. That leaves AK on the 3rd line with Eller and Moen or Darche.
          AK will probably leave Montreal after this season and do the same thing elsewhere. Just like Pou-pou brain.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            The interesting thing Gman is, that now AK could have 2 Legit power forward teammates for a full season. He had to be getting tired of being the only talented forward on our team that could lay a hit. These guys may be coming back to the bench with competitions of who is throwing the best hit every night. We haven’t had that before!

          • patience is a virtue says:

            Pou-pou brain, eh? Hmmmmm.


            OK, seriously, you cannot compare Pouliot, who has yet to proved himself as a solid NHLer, to AK who did so during his first full season and has since consistently produced at a 20+ gp82g pace.

            You might be right about the lines this season, but maybe not. Time will tell.

            It will be a major loss if AK walks without compensation at season end. The team will trade him for another top 6 forward or a high draft pick before that happens. 20-25 goal scorers are a pretty hot commodity in the NHL, in case you haven’t noticed. AK is the only top 6 forward besides Pleks to be brought up through the Habs system since the lockout. Hopefully Patches is the next, but he has not proved that yet, unlike AK.

            Andrei is a very valuable asset despite what some pou pou brains think. Oh, I dun it. Sorry!

          • G-Man says:

            I certainly hope so. To get a bunch of Habs players hitting instead of passively swinging their sticks would be a great thing.

  17. 44har48 says:

    I just don’t F’n get it…

    I too am frustrated that this guy could be so much more and has fallen short of my expectations…I’ll even give you he is not the most mentally strong person in the league…but this guy has size and talent and when coached properly and put in positive situations, has produced. He was playing really well last year and had a +13 rating until getting put with Gomez for no reason at all – oh I’m sorry another attemp to pair Gomez with someone who could get him going. That ruined his +/- in literally 15 games and pulled the plug on his offense that was kicking – look at his numbers last year until getting put with Gomez in December.

    I agree this kid needs coddling and coaching and also needs to be in the top 6 or with actual talent on the third line – like we should have this year finally. That’s Martin’s job, to coach all this talent and put them in positions for them to succeed. Not relegate them to the 4th line becuase Gomez sucks and he is not producign with him, then don’t tell him how to improve.

    Sorry Pat, I don;t like players shooting their mouth off, but how credible is this article and has he been coahced well in the past 2-3 yrs? no…

    I just don’t agree with much your writing lately, not sure we follow the same team anymore.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      Martin is definitely a one-dimensional coach and that D is for defence, not diversity, unfortunately. That commitment to one aspect of the game can pay dividends and certainly helped bring order to a team that needed structure in its play. But commitment that turns into obsession stultifies a team’s development and inhibits its chances of moving into the upper echelons. Martin should direct some of his energies to augmenting the offence beyond line juggling and some of this requires the soft skills that coax the best from players. Here’s hoping the two assistant coaches will be able to perform that function. Let Martin handle the X’s and O’s but not to the exclusion of everything else, and leave it to Cunneyworth and Ladoceur to look after the X’s and O’s of another sort. Don’t you feel the love?

  18. JohnBellyful says:

    Here are my line combinations



    Eller–Moen-Desharnais- White

    Yep, three-line rotation. I think the boys are fit enough to handle more ice-time. Heck, they’d love the chance to play 20 minutes a game.
    The only drawback I see, and it’s a minor one, given the strengths of The System, is that the team would have to rotate the defencemen every 20 seconds so they wouldn’t get winded on the ice or stiff on the bench waiting their turn.
    So, yeah, there’s a tweak or two to be worked out. But the upside …

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Would give us great “Net Presence”, our forecheck would be very strong. Still can’t understand how your interview process for Asst. Coach with creative ideas like these didn’t catch the eye of JM. It is these kinds of ideas he seems to always be looking for, being the innovator he is.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I think that John’s stint with the media (witness his interview of Mr. Kostitsyn last December) may have derailed his coaching career. The Canadiens have not forgotten the Mario Tremblay years. Plus, Pierre McGuire has a verbal promise that when management hires a media hack to run the team, he will be at the top of the list.
        For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.


    • G-Man says:

      I think your use of 4man lines is visionary.

  19. petefleet says:

    I just don’t get what all the *&^% is about. Looking at what AK46 said, he may have been off base but thowing him under the bus is getting a little carried away. And for anyone who thinks Erik Cole is a surefire replacement for him had better look again. I don’t see anything in Cole’s career stats that suggest Andrei is in any danger of losing his job. That’s just media speculation as usual. Mountains out of mole hills. That said, if Cole does score 25 goals and stays on the + side, Andrei may need to hunker down a little but I’m not holding my breath.

    ***Habs Forever***

  20. At the begiining of the week it was AK27 BLASTING Ottawa’s coach who got fired at season’s end. Now it AK46 turn to blast his coach. AK46 followed AK27 with his thoughts of coach JM. Does this have a ring to it? One begins to wonder what will be next?

    AK46 lead the Habs in hits last season and played on all four lines at times. AK46 was on fire at the start of the season and that was the only line scoring at the time. JM decided to change the line-up to find more scoring. We all know how that worked out. I do not blame AK46 for his rant towards his coach.

    Now AK46 has to come to camp and face the media and his teammates. AK46 can be a force to be reckon with IF and when he decides to play his game. AK46 is a power forward with a great shot. Hope AK46 is still around when season starts?

    I would like to see a line of Cole – Plekanec – AK46 who can set the tone of the game for their bone crunching hits.

    Pacioretty – Eller – Cammalleri

    DD – Gomez – Gionta

    Darche – White – Moen

    • Malreg says:

      The problem with his comments has nothing to do with whether he has a valid point or not. The issue is what goes on behind closed doors, stays behind closed.

  21. HabinBurlington says:

    Was just about to reply to Mr. Bellyfull and the thread started a new page, D’oh! John, your translation of Brother Andrei’s responses are wonderful to read. Can you pass on which tranlsation device you are using? I wonder if perhaps this most recent interview wasn’t completely butchered in translation. Perhaps you could rescan his most recent interview and update?

    • JohnBellyful says:

      It’s the same kind they use on Star Trek. You can pick one up on E-Bay for 133,000 Federation credits (an additional 27 if you want to be able to take pictures. You can even get an app that makes your voice sound funny, like Donald Duck or Qqaz the Impaler, the Klingon children’s entertainer).
      As for Andrei’s latest comments, you won’t get me stirring up that hornet’s nest. I stay clear of controversy as much as possible. That’s why I didn’t include in the original article the part where AK said he was a Boston Bruins fan growing up.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Sounds good John, I will wait until I find it cheaper on Kajiji though. Despite the temptation to have the Donald Duck voice ASAP.


  22. Thomas Le Fan says:

    First of all, it’s Russia (well, Belarus) and since there’s no izvestia in Pravda and no pravda in Izvestia, I’m taking the whole thing with a grain of salt. Maybe they’re having a slow news day and are making stuff up, afterall.
    If true, however, (YAWN) another under achieving, head up the butt, puzzle of a Russian. What’s new? Trade him to Ottawa for a bag of pucks. Go Eller! Go Habs!

  23. At the begiining of the week it was AK27 BLASTING Ottawa’s coach who got fired at season’s end. Now it AK46 turn to blast his coach. AK46 followed AK27 with his thoughts of coach JM. Does this have a ring to it? One begins to wonder what will be next?

    AK46 lead the Habs in hits last season and played on all four lines at times. AK46 was on fire at the start of the season and that was the only line scoring at the time. JM decided to change the line-up to find more scoring. We all know how that worked out. I do not blame AK46 for his rant towards his coach.

    Now AK46 has to come to camp and face the media and his teammates. AK46 can be a force to be reckon with IF and when he decides to play his game. AK46 is a power forward with a great shot. Hope AK46 is still around when season starts?

    I would like to see a line of Cole – Plekanec – AK46 who can set the tone of the game for their bone crunching hits.

    Pacioretty – Eller – Cammalleri

    DD – Gomez – Gionta

    Darche – White – Moen

  24. RetroMikey says:

    I am still not sold as Pacioretty being that “power forward” everyone on this site want him or should I say label him to be on this club.
    For all we know, he could be a bust this year.
    Only time will tell.
    He could be like another Brian Savage, …high expectations but turned out to be a disappointing prospect.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  25. JohnBellyful says:

    I don’t understand it, all this attention being paid to what Kostitsyn had to say about the way his playing time was handled when he pretty much said the same thing, in a nicer way, as reported in an exclusive by yours truly last December:

    Submitted by JohnBellyful on Thu, 12/23/2010 – 10:30.

    Montreal forward Andrei Kostitsyn has become a maligned figure of late for his indifferent play. Coach Jacques Martin has tried to catch his attention by first demoting him to the fourth line, and then sitting him out the last game.

    Unlike his teammates, Kostitsyn has been unable to explain himself to reporters as his grasp of the English language is limited. However, in a recent interview with a newspaper from his native Belarus, Kostitsyn spelled out what his season has been like thus far:

    Belarus Gazettesky: Tell me, Andrei, what has this season been like for you thus far?

    Kostitsyn: I feel like I’m channelling Dante and have entered the five face-off circles of Hell. I’m trying hard not to abandon hope, but the team’s recent skid and my being chosen the convenient scapegoat – as if I’m solely to blame for the slide – has left me thoroughly demoralized. I now know how my brother Sergei must have felt at the end of his career with the Canadiens.

    Belarus Gazettesky: Fans are saying, and the coaching staff apparently agrees with them, that you don’t give a full effort every game, that you’re maddeningly inconsistent. You are immensely talented, so why don’t you put up better numbers?

    Kostitstyn: Consistency requires consistency on many levels, not just on a personal plane. Having the same linemates for an extended period certainly helps, through thick and thin. And while I haven’t collected huge numbers of goals over the course of a season I have contributed in many other ways, such as delivering big hits and making nifty little passes. It’s also doing the little things, like knowing where to sit on the bench and when to pass the water bottle – what the organization likes to call the intangibles. I’m as good as anyone on the team when it comes to those kinds of infinitesimal contributions, which, I’ve been led to believe, apparently produce championships.

    Belarus Gazettesky: How did you receive being told you were going to sit out a game?

    Kostitsyn: My anger knew no bounds. I was livid. In our country, we have a saying: You don’t scratch an elbow when it’s your knee that’s itchy. I resented being scratched, elbowed out, whatever. I am neither the cause nor a symptom of the team’s current dysfunctional state, and while I vehemently disagreed with the team’s prescribed remedy, I took my medicine like a man, and I am fully prepared to redouble my efforts to be a scorer the Canadiens can count upon as we compete for a playoff spot down the stretch drive.

    Belarus Gazettesky: So, Andrei, just to make clear what you’re saying, when you return to the lineup it will be as a re-energized player determined to succeed?

    Kostitsyn: Indubitably.

    • huge_polar_bear says:

      The difference is that you wrote this in December and not in the dog days of summer. Really this is such a non-story that is getting attention since there is nothing else out there right now to talk about. AK is frustrated because he was scratched… well duh… any professional athlete should be upset if they are scratched, that’s why coaches do it to motivate the player. He does not like the line juggling… well duh… it’s easier if you can build chemistry with your line mates, we have been saying this on HIO all last year. He does not care for the coach… well neither do I, but it’s who we’re stuck with until he get’s fired and he will soon enough because that’s what happens to coaches that are not named Lindy Ruff in the NHL unless you win a cup or show constant progression. Habs need to go 2-3 rounds in the playoffs this year or else bye, bye Mr. Martin…

  26. 24 Cups says:

    Posters should check out some of the readers’ comments at the end of Arpon Basu’s article. A few of them are spot on.

  27. 24 Cups says:

    Since there’s really no exciting hockey news, here’s an update on golf’s last major.


    And here’s the up-to-date leaderboard.


  28. 24 Cups says:

    Something just dawned on me about the Top 25 series. This list will also include some regulars at the top who really aren’t prospects anymore in the true sense of the word. Price, Subban, MaxPac, Eller and Weber come to mind. You might also want to include DD on this list. That means it’s really a top 20 list which would make Nash #13 and Bennett #12.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Who’s left?

      In the NHL – Price, Subban, MaxPac, Eller, Weber and DD.

      Outside the NHL – Yemelin, Leblanc, Tinordi, Kristo, Beaulieu, White, Engqvist, Avtsin, Palushaj and Gallagher.

  29. I don’t care what 46 says. He better coem out flying and in shape come Oct.

    Every single year he shows up to camp with that fat face and ponch, now that’s ok for a retired soldier and Mr Cobb, but not a NHL player.

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  30. ds says:

    I think MTL should cut their losses and let J. Martin go with a “promotion” to some executive position. Already we lost Guy Boucher & Kirk Muller who are better coaches, based on w hat performance?

    8th seed last year and getting to the semi finals on a hot goalie and all out team effort. This year a 1st round exit.

    How about all the losses this team has incurred during the Martin era. Ryan O’Byrne, D’agostini, Latendresse, Lapierre, S. Kost, Pouilot the list goes on and on.

    AK was the top forward on this team early on playing with Pleks & Camm, then they put him with Gomez who he had 0 chemistry with and his numbers trailed off. Logically you play the guy who has put up career numbers with Pleks with him.

    A.Kost with opportunity is a 30 goal, 60-70 pt player. S.Kost put up 50 pts and led Nashville in goals this past year and they don’t have any forwards with T.Pleks or Camm’s ability.

    Fact is if the coach isn’t working get rid of him, I don’t think JM has the track record to suggest he can take this team anywhere further than it has achieved already.

    I’d like to point out again that he had the most talented team in the NHL for years in Ottawa and he couldn’t beat a 2 player (Sundin & Joseph) team in Tranna.

    Also regarding Gomez & Gionta at the start of the year, they both had tons of chances, especially Gionta but he couldn’t finish. It’s not just Gomez’s fault like people are quick to chime in, Gionta was choking at the finish like crazy hitting posts, missing wide open nets etc.

    • top-cat says:

      I agree with the complaint that Martin juggles his lines too much. This year we are far better off than last year, and having a top 9 is a possibility. The top three lines should stay together and compete for minutes.
      Another way to look at it is that we have a great group of sophomores – MaxPac, DD, Eller, White – and we have Cole. So our forwards are far better than last year. our defense is about the same or better with Gorges instead of Hamerlik and Markov instead of Wiz.
      Keep the lines set and wait for our second season forwards and Subban to step up their performance from last year. No juggling necessary.

    • G-Man says:

      Glad you are not the gm. All coaches juggle lines when they don’t produce or when players are just not playing well. Stop pretending that every other coach on the planet is better than JM.

  31. Mike D says:

    Went to the “head-scratchers” link and had a look at the photos. Looks like AK has a bit of a gut.

    – Honestly yours

  32. Shane1313 says:

    Are we still talking about Gomez? Man what’s the deal. He’s always been overpaid, but oh boy…here it comes….I am happy to have him on my team.

  33. SmartDog says:

    Hey, I can post again.

    I wasn’t able to since I made a little joke about Berkshire and Punkster not being cool. I wonder which one banned me for awhile. Power corrupts.

    *****WARNING: Testing out new dog icons for the coming season. *****

  34. Timo says:

    haha… just read the interview. Man, these two are anti-Gomez when it comes shooting their mouths off with media. It’s like pulling teeth. A russian language refresher wouldn’t hurt them either.

  35. Propwash says:

    Gotta earn your stripes AK, there’s been more “oh sh**s than ‘attaboy” throughout your services here. Take it like a man, and show the organization/league that you’re amongst the elite. If you cant or wont, than stfu.

    My .02

  36. HABSIN09 says:

    Well, as there is nothing else to do, my trade rumour is Gomez, Kostitsyn, Weber and a conditional pick for the REAL Weber in Nashville. Reunite the brothers grim, shed salary, and get the best defenseman in the league. It will never happen, but one can dream.

  37. Un Canadien errant says:

    Andrei Kostitsyn needs to understand that icetime is earned. You work your way on the first line and power play with hustle and production. You make yourself indispensable. You don’t do it by whining.

    As far as keeping him/losing him next year, do we really want to have him any more? If there is an auction for his services, someone will drive up the bidding to a point where we won’t want to pay.

    Consider if you will bringing in someone next season with Mr. Cole’s attitude and subtracting Andrei. It’s an easy decision, you let Mr. Kostitsyn go, at the deadline or on July 1.

    Guys like that, we’ve all worked with them, it’s never their fault and the boss has it in for them, sure they came in late yesterday but that was the first time this summer, and how come that other guy goes to the conference when his sales are almost as good….

    Before too many more pictures of his thinning hair, pigeon chest and Pillsbury arms circulate and rob him of the illusion of unfulfilled potential and detract from his trade value even further, let’s deal him and move on.

    And Andrei, who’s your workout partner this summer, George Costanza?

    For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.


    • ooder says:

      ice time needs to be earned? wow sure is interesting considering how much gomez plays
      although i do agree with you
      The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Let’s call Mr. Gomez our special case which we struggle to rationalize, and set is aside for our present purposes.

        In my coworker example, you do get the sense however that he would point to Mr. Gomez/other-underperformer and try to exculpate himself that way. Said coworker will stridently defend himself that he is not to blame and quickly point out others’ quibbles and flaws, instead of taking a look in the mirror and then picking up his socks.

        You get the sense that Mr. Kostitsyn might be the cynic who reacts to his situation by shrugging his shoulders and smirking instead of working twice as hard to prove himself.

        I see no evidence by looking at his pasty physique that he’s training like he’s deranged and out to prove himself. He looks like he’s enjoying his idyllic surroundings instead of sweating like a Cammalleri.

        Hey Andrei, call the Politsiya, someone stole your trapezoids!!

        For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.


    • Everlasting1 says:

      Ice-time needs to be earned by a vet getting paid $3.75M/yr? Explain Gomez. I await with much laughter.

      “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

      “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        No need to wait, o cynical one. If you’re Mr. Martin and your job depends on the Canadiens winning, you’ll put out the best team on the ice that you can to achieve that. You won’t carry on a twisted personal vendetta. If a player gets you goals and wins, you’re going to play him.

        Mr. Martin will play Mr. Kostitsyn and Mr. Gomez according to how they play and who else he has on the bench or in the pressbox. Easy. No aliens required to explain it.

        For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.


        • Everlasting1 says:

          Silly. If overall play/goal production is key, why not relegate Gomex to the third or fourth line instead of AK? Not necessarily limit ice-time but bump the more productive players to the top lines. Then again Gomex isn’t a grinder either. What to do..what to do..

          “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

          “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            I’m trying to evaluate Andrei Kostitsyn’s situation based on its own merits, rather than comparatively with others. That’s a game that never ends. Mr. Gomez is his own special case, we’ve debated this matter on a lot of other threads. It comes down to not having another centre able to play top-line minutes, and not having cap-room to bring in another. This season, if Mr. Desharnais and Mr. Eller continue their upward trend and Mr. Gomez does not improve, we may not debate this for very long.

            Looking at Mr. Kostitsyn’s situation, he is a perennial malcontent and sourpuss who does not deliver. I’m sure he has been told a hundred different times what he needs to do to be successful, by many different coaches in many different ways, and has simply not been able to understand it. He thinks he’s being singled out, whereas he’s the one who doesn’t follow and who stands out by himself.

            The word ‘discipline’ is derived from the word Disciple, those who followed Jesus of Nazareth. The word has come to take on a negative connotation, but discipline properly applied is a method to get an employee or team member to follow the leaders. Some people, such as Mike Cammalleri and Josh Gorges, instinctively embrace the team concept and follow, and they quickly get to the head of the pack and become leaders. Malcontents and laggards such as Sergei and Andrei and Benoit Pouliot and Guillaume Latendresse don’t, and eventually are disciplined right out of the team.

            Do rugged individualist have a place in society? Definitely, but they are not much use in a team sport like hockey.

            For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.


        • Timo says:

          I absolutely disagree. Martin decides who to play and who not based on his personal likes and dislikes. He is a poor coach and even a worse player coach. He is a dinosaur that belongs in the 1990’s hockey.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            I think we could build a Venn diagram and find that our positions kind of overlap. Mr. Martin’s personal likes and dislikes are largely based on what a player does on the ice. I’m sure personality conflicts and misunderstandings seep into this evaluation, but it does with every coach and every player, that’s human nature.

            AK’s great failing in all this is to alienate the coach even further, instead of making a career-wise move to train hard over the summer (rather than turning into a beer sausage) and playing hard from camp throughout the season. Emotional Intelligence 101: do you get anywhere by making your boss your enemy? Your boss wants to be successful, and if you help him to be successful you will thrive rather than wither on the vine.

            For my training camp surprise, I want the second coming of Mike McPhee. And maybe Kent Carlson.


  38. OneTimer says:

    Why do I feel like if Kostitsyn is traded in the next year, we’re going to regret it?

  39. Say Ash says:

    They real issue that nobody is talking about is AK walking around…in jean shorts!

  40. Gomez is the black hole of alien DNA sucking all the habs forwards into him.

  41. scrowe21 says:

    AK should have stayed with Pleks and Cammy all year.. If they dump him this year in a crap trade or don’t resign him next year I will be forever p*ssed.

    Also, something I noticed from the pictures in the article. SK is a bit bigger than AK now.. Andrei always look so big on the ice, thought Sergei was a lot skinnier.

    • SK is a hair taller maybe, but he isn’t bigger. He’s wearing a baggier shirt and perspective has him placed closer to the camera. He has filled out though since his MTL days.

    • RGM says:

      Forever? That’s a long time to carry a grudge involving a player chosen 10th overall that has not come close to meeting expectations after several NHL seasons.

      During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.

  42. punkster says:

    Oh-ohhh. DNA discovered in meteorites. I may have to back off my anti-aliens stance a bit.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • Chris says:

      Not DNA, but one of the building blocks of DNA.

      Still a lot of steps between individual components and the actual chain.

      But while on the subject of asteroids, I don’t know if people have caught the news that NASA now has a orbiter around Vesta (just got into orbit in the past month), the second largest asteroid in the solar system. Absolutely cool pictures coming back.

      The orbiter, Dawn, will be in orbit for about a year before jetting off for a rendezvous with Ceres, the dwarf planet that makes up the bulk of the asteroid field between Mars and Earth. The logistics of flying these orbiters through the asteroid belt always blew my mind a bit, but now they are actually flying through it to get from one asteroid to another.

      Sometimes, you need to see stuff like this to remind you that while the financial sector is trying to destroy your confidence in the intelligence of mankind, there are still plenty of examples of ingenuity and inspiration out there.

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Frankly, I don’t see the connection to possible line combinations for the Canadiens.

        • Chris says:


          I wasn’t replying to a post about possible line combinations for the Canadiens.

          • JohnBellyful says:


            And I wasn’t replying to your comments about aeronautical matters. It was a non-sequitur intended for humorous purposes to return to earth a discussion of an esoteric nature to the more mundane subject of line combinations that fascinates a good number of posters to this site, and seems to be part of their DNA.
            Also, I had just consumed a half-bottle of cough medicine to treat my psoriasis. 🙂

          • Chris says:

            In that case…

            Well played. 🙂

      • Everlasting1 says:

        The orbiting asteroid belt is said to be the remnants/debris from a planetary collision that occured in our solar system billions of years ago. The ancient writings of the Sumerians tell the tale of the formation of our solar system, and includes the original book of Genesis of the bible.

        “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

        “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

        • Chris says:

          If there was a collision, it occurred before the gas that was to become the various objects in the asteroid belt had solidified into actual solid asteroids/planetoids. At least, that seems to be the prevailing theory. This is basically the same process that led to the moon forming: the Earth’s coalescing gas cloud collided with something, lopping off some of its cloud, which ultimately formed the Moon.

          There is no evidence that Vesta and Ceres, for example, were fragments of one another. Vesta does have some remnants that were ejected from various collisons, and we believe that at least some of these remnants have collided with the Earth as asteroids. But Ceres and Vesta are not believed to ever have been part of the same planet to the best of my knowledge.

          • Everlasting1 says:

            There’s a theory/myth that another planet, Nibiru, collided with Tiamat (proto-Earth) and the moon was once orbiting Nibiru, but the ‘new’ Earth’s gravity pulled it into it’s own orbit. The collision left parts of Tiamat and Nibiru that formed the asteroid belt.

            “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

            “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

          • Chris says:

            Myth, not theory. It is based off the writings of one guy who has been discredited by the scientific community. He bases his interpretations largely off one Sumerian seal, but fails to factor in that there is no other mention of anything more than 5 planets in their culture.

          • Everlasting1 says:

            It’s a theory once you delve and become versed into the various disciplines that suggest the idea. Sitchin, a foremost Sumerologist, and others have studied the ancient texts (44,000 clay tablets from the middle east), not just one cylinder seal depicting the ENTIRE solar system that dates back 4,500 yrs. Discredited by the dogmatic scientific community?? Shocking.


            “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

            “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

          • Chris says:

            Stitchin is the guy that was discredited.

            The scientific community is dogmatic…there is this basic principle that you sort of need to back your hypothesis with a lot of research evidence.

            Stitchin has failed that test every time.

          • Everlasting1 says:

            The scientific community – a product of the mainstream ‘education’ system, have no answers. Epic fail. Polytheistic religions have more credibility and evidence.
            A lot of research/evidence HAS been presented to support the alien influence from ALL early AND modern civilizations/cultures. You’re just not paying attention and don’t know about it. The mainstream shapes your beliefs.

            “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

            “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

          • Everlasting1 says:

            The denial needs to end. What’s more evident than a mass sighting? ‘Scientists’ are still looking at molecules. One can only laugh at the absurdity.

            “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

            “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    • JohnBellyful says:

      If I told Zorg once, I told him a dgroztzi memno0s (thousand times), sterilize the pellets before using the meteorites as target practice. If the Exaltedness finds out word of our existence has got out, well there will be jouwnstuxi (jello) to pay.*

      *Translated by Belarussian news service.

    • Everlasting1 says:

      You can make out ancient structures and river beds on the surface of Mars in the Cydonia region. Go to Google Earth and zoom in on Mars. You can see pyramid-like structures.

      “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

      “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

      • Chris says:

        You can also make out an Old Man in the Moon.

        Honest question: with the billions of dollars spent to launch space missions to Mars and the millions of man-hours invested in trying to establish the most probably spots on the Martian surface to discover traces of life, do you honestly believe that there is any merit to ancient structures there?

        The “ancient structures” are most often lighting tricks or natural geologic formations. I work with a couple of the guys involved with the Spirit and Opportunity rovers currently on Mars and heavily involved in searching for traces of organic substances that could indicate the existence of life, either now or in the distant pass. Their research groups have invested countless hours analyzing the best data NASA has got to try and identify the next landing spot. I don’t think the “pyramids” were on their list. 🙂

        • Everlasting1 says:

          Please. They’ll only reveal what they want you to know. Which is nothing. NASA is just another govt branch. They deny all. Great job out there. Can’t find squat apparently. Money well spent.

          “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

          “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

          • Chris says:

            Can’t find anything out there for the very real reason that it is very unlikely we can find anything out there. The distances are so vast that it is unlikely we can find anything for many centuries yet.

            The dream of space travel is a nice one, but with our current understanding of physics, not terribly likely. It is entirely possible that our understanding of physics isn’t quite correct, but it is just as likely that those that believe there is other life out there should resign themselves to taking it on faith. Because that other life can’t get to us nor us to them.

          • Everlasting1 says:

            Current understanding of physics?? REAL quantum physicists have already blown away mainstream’s myopic views and ignorance with brilliant research/studies that supports many of their claims and hypothesis. Einstein’s equation limited us to lightspeed, when all along Tesla and Max Planck knew better.

            “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

            “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

          • Chris says:

            As a physicist, I can emphatically state you haven’t a clue of what you are talking about.

          • Everlasting1 says:

            I don’t have a clue of quantum physics? Try me.
            You’re a physicist, and I have alien dna. The world keeps on spinnin’..

            “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

            “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  43. SmartDog says:

    WTF, I can’t post.

    No reason, no error message, no email.

    HIO is increasingly gone amateur hour.

    *****WARNING: Testing out new dog icons for the coming season. *****

  44. SmartDog says:


    *****WARNING: Testing out new dog icons for the coming season. *****

  45. Chris says:

    And since I’m feeling ornery tonight, here’s a little tidbit that ought to have some of you at least a little worried.

    Erik Cole’s stats on Dec. 15 the past three seasons:

    2010-11: 28 GP, 5G, 11 PTS
    2009-10: 20 GP, 6G, 8 PTS (partially affected by injuries)
    2008-09: 28 GP, 3G, 8 PTS

    We all know that Jacques Martin likes to tinker with lines if one of his top-6 forwards is struggling. Well, Jacques, you now have a forward who seems to have contracted Damphoussitis sometime in the summer of 2008. He now can’t seem to get up for games until mid-December.

    If he gets off to another slow start, he’s going to get some mega-pressure in Montreal as so much hope is riding on him being a missing piece of the puzzle.

  46. SmartDog says:

    It’s a new world. Studies show that the values people have towards work have changed dramatically over the last 20 years. The old “it’s my paycheck and that’s the boss” philosophy has been replaced by “I want to enjoy my job and my work environment”. The new breed of coaches know this is crucial. Martin is old school, old world. He’s too old to change. Which is why we lose so many good young players. You have to see Martin for good and bad. Good: he brings a system and a clarity that the team has benefited from. He’s brought the team closer to the cup than they’ve been in over 15 years. Bad: he doesn’t communicate well, doesn’t handle certain kinds of players well and we ship out some good talent to blossom elsewhere because of it. If I were another team, I’d be looking to pick up Montreal’s cast-offs.

    *****WARNING: Testing out new dog icons for the coming season. *****

  47. JohnBellyful says:

    How about some good ole coach juggling.
    Cunneyworth handles the team the first period, Martin the last two.
    Martin handles the first and third periods, Cunneyworth the second.
    Ladouceur handles the first, Cunneyworth the second and Martin the third … just for starters.
    This would accelerate the assistant coaches’ development at the NHL level, allow Martin to get to know the players better, expose the team to a new dynamic from behind the bench, confound opponents, and … oh yes, give Martin a taste of his own medicine.

  48. durocher says:

    I can’t blame AK46 for being unhappy, especially when he sees his brother prosper elsewhere.

    • joeybarrie says:

      What prosper???
      He has had one season with less points AK had with Montreal in 07-08. So before we give SK the player of the year award, maybe we should wait and see what he does again this season.
      Besides he is in Nashville. How is that prospering…
      By the way, SK had 50 points with less ice time than AK… But SK is on the top two lines, and AK is in the third huh…?

      There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  49. Ali says:

    my pardons if this has been mentioned before, but he has every right to be pissed. the line of pleks, cammy and ak was on fire to start the year (all were scoring at around a point per game clip) and because gionta was getting sucked into gomez’s struggles, they switched the ak with gio. playing with pleks gio started scoring, ak’s season went downhill.

    Oh Captain my Captain…

    • Kooch7800 says:

      He has a right to be pissed but shouldn’t be saying it to the media. He gets paid millions of dollars to play a sport and be a professional.

      There is a time and place for everything and when I see players complain in the media it ticks me off. Look at players like Danny Heatly…

  50. RetroMikey says:

    I’m from the old retro skool days of coaching.
    If I were coach, the first thing I would say is
    “I’m the coach, you the player”
    “I pay to coach, you pay to play, you no like, then you no play”
    Pepsi Generation kids today. They think they know everything. Oh marone!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  51. Chris says:

    I doubt he’s going to get much sympathy. That being said, he is also right.

    Games 1 – 12: Kostitsyn (RW) for Plekanec
    Games 13-19: Kostitsyn (LW) for Plekanec
    Games 20-29: Kostitsyn (LW) for Gomez
    Games 30-42: Kostitsyn (RW) for Plekanec
    Games 43-46: Kostitsyn (LW) for Halpern
    Games 47-50: Kostitsyn (LW) for Plekanec
    Games 51-53: Kostitsyn (LW) for Gomez
    Game 54: Kostitsyn (RW) for Plekanec
    Games 55-60: Kostitsyn (LW) for Gomez
    Games 61-70: Kostisyn (LW) for Eller
    Games 71-75: Kostitsyn (RW) for Eller
    Game 76: Kostitsyn (RW) for Gomez
    Game 77: Kostitsyn (LW) for Eller
    Game 78: Kostisyn benched
    Games 79-82: Kostitsyn (RW) for Plekanec

    So I don’t think Kostitysn can complain too much about ice time. Where he does have a legitimate beef is with Martin’s neurotic line-juggling, even when there aren’t injuries.

    Kostitysn did not get to play with any single center for any longer than the 19-game run when he started the season alongside Plekanec. He had a fairly long run at LW in the middle of the season (with a single game call-up to the first line RW spot in the middle) but he was yanked back and forth between the left and the right side so often he probably had no clue where he was supposed to be half the time.

    Compare that with the other top wingers.

    Cammalleri played all but 2 games at LW.
    Gionta played every game at RW.
    Pacioretty played every game at LW.
    Pouliot played all but 5 games at LW.
    Moen played 17 games at LW, the rest at RW.
    Kostitsyn played 37 games at RW and 44 games at LW.

    Kostitsyn has been the go-to guy for Jacques Martin when he needs to juggle lines. Unfortunately, this has often worked to Kostitsyn’s disfavour: whenever he seemingly got some momentum going with a centre, he was pulled off that line and thrown on another. My most sincere hope is for a relatively injury free season where the Habs can try to let these guys gain some chemistry with one another.

    I don’t care if Kostitsyn is #1, #2 or #3…I just want to see him given a chance to make plays and the corresponding mistakes. If he’s going to get stapled to the bench whenever he has a game like Cammalleri or Gomez frequently had themselves, Gauthier might as well trade him and spare some drama.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I agree in that JM’s juggling of lines drives me nuts. I am sure AK feels like he is the one that has to be sacrificed all the time. This is where JM needs to be a good communicator and make sure AK realizes it is because of his versatility that he is the one being juggled. Not convinced JM would say that, something probably Muller was having to do.

      Having said that, they gave him a nice 1 year contract, he has to recognize what that means also.

      Do kind of wonder if PG tried to sign AK for more than a year, and seems now like AK would have said a NYET to that.

      Good old drama in Habland before the season starts when we thought everything was settled.

      Hopefully there is no articles in the local paper in Gorges hometown coming out anytime soon, haha.

    • Wait… I don’t see anything about ice time listed there. Among forwards Kostitsyn was 4th in points, 3rd in goals, 3rd in shots, 5th in assists, 1st (tied) in GWG and yet 6th in icetime per game. He also received significantly fewer minutes on the PP than the other top players for the Habs.

      His complaints are all justified, it’s just the manner in which they’re made that are unacceptable. And in spite of all this information, it’s not damning to Martin at all. Being hated is part of being the boss. If everyone agrees with you all the time you won’t last long.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I agree Andrew that AK has not handled this properly, but I have always been annoyed at the incessant line juggling that JM does seem to do. This is not to say he isn’t a good coach, I have always given him benefit of doubt and injuries played a part.

        I hope to start the year he gives those top 3 lines in whatever form he picks a chance to gel.

        • I’m not a fan of line juggling either, but if you remember the reason why AK got moved after a strong start was to split up Gio and Gomez, who had like 6 combined points in 12 games. As far as Martin was concerned, getting those two going was more important than AK continuing to play excellent. It worked for Gio and didn’t work for Gomez, but it was a worthwhile gamble.

      • punkster says:

        Lots of blah, blah, blah on this one in the days to come though I doubt the organization would dump a forward as strong as this guy based on a few untimely comments to a foreign journalist. Remember, it’s August and there ain’t nothing else in the news but falling concrete and burning no tell motels. September can’t come soon enough.

        ***Subbang Baby!!!***

        • Screw September, let’s go straight to October!

        • Chris says:

          It IS kind of funny. Professional athletes get ripped for their milquetoast replies to questions.

          But any time a guy goes even remotely off the path, he gets blasted.

          I don’t read too much into it. Jacques Martin had no problem making a rather silly comment about Kostitsyn in a contract year in a press conference last season, Kostitsyn has allegedly made a rather silly comment in an interview.

          Like you say, the Habs simply can’t afford to give him up, at least not until they have another top-6 calibre forward that is proven.

      • Chris says:

        You will notice that I made the comment that he has no legitimate beef about ice time based on who his centers were, i.e., the guys who were getting the most ice time.

        But his role was certainly up in the air consistently throughout the season, and ice time is fine if you are playing with guys you are familiar with. It is not so great if you’re spending games trying to come up to speed with your new linemates. Note that I did not list the third linemate. Kostitsyn played with over 15 regular line combinations throughout the season.

        The point of the boss might not to be liked, but you are a completely useless boss if you can’t be bothered to communicate with your workers. That is basically Leadership 101.

        A lack of communication between the players and Martin has been a commonly cited issue in Montreal for the past two seasons now and is one of the reasons why so many were questioning whether the Habs could afford to lose Kirk Muller, who was so effective in his role as a go-between.

      • Bill says:

        Well … if I’m Martin, I’m thinking this guy who produces with minimal PP time and rotating linemates could be my highest scoring winger if I played him right. I might also consider that he hits and has the size to damage when he does so.

        Why can’t Gomez be the guy who proves the boss is right by hating him?

        Full Breezer 4 Life

  52. Neutral says:

    This would be my choice of lines in training camp to see how things go.

    1. Cammy Gomez Gionta
    2. Cole Plekenac Kostitsyn
    3. Pacioretty Desharnais Darche
    4. Moen White ??????

    I know you’re gonna question why Gomez on the 1st line
    he has something to prove. if he doesn’t, he’s going on the 3rd line like it or not, Plekanec to the 1st line, Deharnais to the 2nd line.

    • G-Man says:

      Need some power on the Gomez line. Pac will be there.
      Pleks with Cammy and Cole
      AK with Eller + DD
      White Moen Darche + Enqvist

      Darche sits 1/3 of the games. All barring injuries of course.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        +1 and a mandate that JM has to keep these lines together for more than the first 5 mins of 1st period of 1st game!

      • Neutral says:

        Remember G-Man I’m just talking training camp, if you don’t have some kind of lineup figured out starting the season you could lose valuable points. one reason JM is always fighting to make the play offs juggling lines all year and not only because of injury’s. one mistake you go from the 1st line to the 3rd line, I’m glad AK spoke out right or wrong. funny Boston had injury’s all year even in the playoffs and they won the cup.

  53. Marc10 says:

    Maybe he’s trying to justify why he took so many nights off during the season and during the odd game in the playoffs…

    Suck it up Princess. I’m sure every Hab would have similar comments, but you don’t hear them whine about it (heck even Pouliot didn’t go there…)

    Team first.

    • obrien says:

      I dont recall him taking that many nights off. He did try hard last year, but it didn’t always show results.

      Gotta agree with his assessment on Martin: Andrei was playing well with Cammy and Pleks at the beginning of the season. Gomez was struggling, so Martin put AK with Gomez, and that resulted in Andrei worse streak of the season.

      AK / Gomez = No chemistry.

  54. rossy131 says:

    anyone know how i can stream the als game online?

  55. jon514 says:

    A lot of what AK says is true, the team hasn’t made the best use of him as talent-wise I’d say he ranks second only to Markov on our team, and he has always played his most productive hockey next to Pleky.

    That being said, they’ve certainly paid him like they believe in him. I think you can count the number of players intentionally signed to play on the third line making over 3.25 million on one hand.

    Clearly they expect to play him as a pivot between the top 3 lines again this year. They are hedging their bets in case Max Pac doesn’t come back full-throttle or Cole is a bust.

    “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

  56. LA Loyalist says:

    test of new abbatoir

    dang – it didn’t work…

  57. Chrisadiens says:

    The real question now is….do we trade AK now and get more value back in return? Or do we hang onto AK for the year, hope he plays his arse off, and then lose him to free agency for nothing? Or option 3, trade him at the deadline where his value may be less depending on his level of commitment.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      PG has to have a little chit chat with him first. We have too much invested in him at this point to cut bait. This team could be really good and our 2nd/3rd lines could be interchangeable and perhaps he plays great and enjoys it. Have to give it a chance. Other GM’s will be swarming like sharks on chum right now trying to steal him at this point.

      • Chrisadiens says:

        Im not sure what I would do if I were PG, but your idea sounds the most logical.

        Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  58. JD_ says:

    Heh. Awesome.

    You know, cuz everybody just loved and adored and agreed with everythin’ done by Carbo, Gainey, Julien, Therrien, Vigneault, Tremblay, Demers, Burns, Perron, Lemaire, Berry, Ruel, and the biggest, huggable teddy bear of ’em all, Bowman.

    Ah, Scotty; ya just wanted to pinch his rosy red cheek and tickle his l’il nose.

    And guess what? They’re all just gonna fawn over whoever succeeds Martin and hang out on weekends, tossin’ the frisbee around and tryin’ on different hats in the mirror while some zany tune plays in the background. And the guy after him. And the guy after that guy, etc…

    Cause that’s how it works.

    On Fantasy Island.

    The plane, the plane.

    Oh, but JD, don’t you see a pattern here? Young guys, underachievers, and the inconsistent, you know, ‘n’ all that?

    Yeah. I do. It’s called coachin’ in the NHL.

    Here. Have a tissue. Go blow yer nose.



  59. 100HABS says:

    AK was our points leader at the end of November when Martin put him with Gomez (the black hole of centres). I would be peed off too. If he had stayed with Pleks all year, both he and Pleks would have done better. AK would definitively have had 30 goals, I am sure of that.

    He actually did better with Eller than Gomez, but best with Plekanec.

    I hope we keep him and that Martin or the next coach uses him well. He has potential coming out the wahoo. If we give up on him he’ll post big numbers elsewhere, I’m sure.

    • jon514 says:

      Agreed! They undeservingly handed his spot to Gio because they couldn’t have their newly minted captain produce fewer goals than their token “lazy russian”.
      Now don;t get me wrong, I love Gio, the problem is with what’s his name? …that other guy who’s name starts with G…

      “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

    • obrien says:


      Also, I do think that there might be something between Plekanec and him last year. I saw many 2 on 1 where Pleks didn’t pass it to Andrei (and he ALWAYS makes that nice pass on 2 on 1s). And goals from Pleks or Andrei were one didn’t seem happy for the other (and they are not the most exuberant, but they usually smile on those occasions…)

      At 3.25M, Andrei is pretty cheap for what he brings to the Habs. 40+ pts, much better defensively last year, hits the most on the team, he is big, etc.

      In this market, this is worth more then 3.25… I wished Martin would have signed him long term.

  60. jo_maka says:

    Then again, before his last call-up, Patch was far from being stellar. He did his time in the A, and said he’s not interested in playing in Mtl if it’s not on the top 6. And nobody had a problem with him saying that. Granted, he backed it up when given the chance. But he was given the chance to have a regular spot.

    Here, AK is merely telling the story as it is: he was the top producer of the ATM line when the season began, then the Count pulled him back for the first strings of audition to play with the captain and the black hole, so yeah he sucked for that time. After that though, he got in the Count’s doghouse for some reason. He said in the interview that he asked to talk to JM several time but he wouldn’t give him the time of the day. What of it ? We weren’t there, we don’t know. Luckily for him at the 2 half of the season, Eller picked up the pace and was working well with him. Otherwise, he would’ve gone the PooPoo way, best believe that.

    How about Cammy, did he get switched a lot last season ? No. He’s the first one to say he had a disappointing season, he took stupid penalties because he was frustrated about his game, struggled to get his mojo back in time for the playoffs. But he wasn’t in any doghouse. I love the guy, but he had the season we all know.

    If they wanna play it safe and still start it off OK this season, I think they should have something like this, if Eller is not ready yet:

    Cole – Gomez – Gionta
    Cammy- Plek – AK
    Patch- DD- White
    Moen – Engqvist – Darche

    The top 9, or at least the top 6, comparable ice time (more or less).
    We’d have a Yankee line (I believe this was the ’06 Olympic US line), Cole being more experienced and virtually a possible mentor for Patch. Gomez is auditioning for Comeback Kid 2011, I say show and prove.
    Then the ATM line with the chemistry we know they have. They were the only producing line last fall.
    Then the young guns. Patch credited DD for his progress, they killed it together and DD is only starting. Give opportunity for Patch to ease back in the traffic with a less tough opposition.
    Then the checking…..somewhat….

    And please Jacques, a little consistency from you, not only from the players. If a player get benched for a play you didn’t like, another one shouldn’t get away with murder with the same thing, only on account of his salary. That discrepancy can make you lose the room in the end.
    Open-mindedness is not a skull fracture

  61. The Dude says:

    I used to ride AK’s back, but last year “with the controversy of moving his bro ” I thought he did ok and I did like the way he handled himself against the Goon’s. AND NOW I LIKE HIM EVEN MORE….Martin SUCKS!!!!!!!

  62. ooder says:

    “Sergei” is translated as “Earrings” … which is kind of weird.
    hahah thats hilarious.. although not weird at all
    the Sergei and the russian word for earings are really really similar

    The 2010-11 Stanley Cup was not won, but given

  63. joeybarrie says:

    First off, I am always suspicious of article’s from outside of North America. I personally do not know how credible this journalist or newspaper is. So I try not to judge too much, cause when it comes to this particular reporter and publisher, I am not familiar with them enough to be able to judge…
    That being said, looking at his ice time last season he played most of his games with top 2 line minutes. I think his 3rd line excuse is exactly that, an excuse.
    He is 5th on the team in even strength time on ice for forwards
    He is 6th on the team in PP time of ice for forwards
    He is LAST on the team for PK time on ice.
    I think a big difference in playing time is there. And considering we only have 5 shorties, I would have to say he is getting EV and PP top 2 line minutes.
    By the way the most important stat I believe is the following.
    Last 4 years AK has had this as his PPG. -0.55 -0.56 -0.55 -0.68
    With Carbonneau, and Martin, AND PLAYING BETWEEN 15:35 and 16:00 minutes per game. Each season increasing, meaning he played more time under JM than Carbo…

    To me the end result is the same… AK is a good 3rd liner and a mediocre 2nd liner. Averaging 40-45 points a season. He has actually been pretty consistent the last 3 seasons at just over half a point a game.

    The benefit is that having him on the third line, gives us one of the better 3rd lines out there. And that’s how you win a Stanley Cup.
    His time on ice is behind Pleks, Cammi, Gomez, and Gionta. Tied for 5th in forwards… So i think there is alot of nonsense going on here. MAXPAC played with Gio and Gomez most of his ice time, and they have the exact same average ice time per game.
    Lastly, I will say looking at most other NHL teams, their 5th and 6th forward for ice time is all in the 15-16 minute range….
    I think his agent is correct. But I prefer my advice. Score more, and you’ll play more…
    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  64. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Well if Kostitsyn thinks he deserves top line minutes in this league, this season is the best possible time for him to prove it. As a UFA he now has all the incentive in the world to perform.

    It’s up to him to beat out Pacioretty for the top six/2nd wave PP – something he *should* be able to do…he has a huge age/experience advantage. He just has to move those legs for 82 games.

    One great season could net him a multi-year deal somewhere in this league for $4m + a year. But it will take more than his normal 20 goals and 20 assists.

    Brother Andrei, for the first time in his career, controls his destiny.

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      No one controls their destiny, that’s why it’s destiny!

      • TorontoHabsFan says:

        Fair point! I should have said “his future is in his hands”. For the first time in his career he will not be contractually obligated to play in Montreal (and with a coach he dislikes, if the Belarussian article is to be believed) at season’s end.

        As I said earlier today – he can be the next Grabovski or he can be the next Frolov…it’s entirely up to him and whether he wants to tap into that obvious talent he has every single shift for 82 games or not.

  65. thehabsfan29 says:

    If we were to trade AK46

    any ideas of what we would get in return for him?/who would you trade him for?

  66. Propwash says:

    B****ing about it ain’t gonna make you many friends AK.

  67. HabinBurlington says:

    Saw earlier comments regarding air travel. So thought I would check into seat sales for Flying to Montreal for Summit. Found tix for 49bucks each way TO to MTL. Thought wow great deal, oh yah and then they added 295 bucks to the pair to bring the total from 200 to 495. Gotta love Canadian air travel and air tax , the flight tax, the airport tax, the tax on tax tax and so on. For a minute I thought I was buying my airline tix from Puddy on Seinfeld when he is selling that car to Seinfeld!

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Maybe I’m showing my age, but it used to be nice to take the train between Trauma and Montreal. Relax, have a beer, look out the window at the nice farmland, read a book, take a nap – step out and you are already downtown.

      Or am I just old?

      Better than getting a $400 speeding ticket in Brockville at 3 in the morning in my 914, I guess.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Yah considered, actually was my first thought. But the trains going that weekend not only cost more but have lots of stops 7 and a half hours was the shortest I saw. Still may consider it.

        Did that trip once before by train, you are right though nice relaxing trip!

        • LA Loyalist says:

          It was a long time ago, and service, like anything run by the government, may have slipped.

          But the drive is so brutal… flying tortuous and $… worth checking out.

          I used to actually take the midnight train, which was certainly slow, and stopped everywhere, but you could sleep and be downtown on either end in the morning. Take a shower/sauna (or another beer) and you were good to go. 🙂 used to do the same trick in Europe, save a night’s hotel cost (more money for booze). 🙂

      • Chrisadiens says:

        Dad and I take the train almost every year from Poughkeepsie, NY to Montreal. Its awesome, can drink some beers, read some books, and take in the sights of lake champlain. Not to mention no worries of snow impeding travel.

        Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

      • saskhabfan says:

        You see mostly older women in their late 50’s or 60’s driving porsche’s. But i guess it explains alot.

        • LA Loyalist says:

          A 914 was a little 2 seater, though women didn’t drive them. The fuse box was down under the dash and if you banged it with your left knee all the fuses fell out. But it was quick and a lot of fun, especially in snow.

          Now I drive a 911 Turbo, but am more careful.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Nice little edit work there LA, lol.

          • LA Loyalist says:

            I’m trying to be nice. And ignore the dig about women driving Porsches. My wife drives mine just fine, in fact I have trouble getting it back from her. 🙂 thanks for info on “gruntled”, it’s just one of those words that make English fun.

            Have a nice evening.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            How gruntle of you, haha trying to use the new word! Just makes no sense trying to use a word, I have never said or heard before.

            Cheers LA

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          What women in their 60’s?

          It’s almost always balding paunchy guys with small penises.

    • joeybarrie says:

      It’s not just Canadian Air Travel… Same story in the USA… see a seat sale for $49 each way, and the ticket ends up being $269… Airport tax, Flight Tax, Gas Tax, 9/11 tax, Surcharges, US Govt Excise tax, which is separate from regular tax apparently…so on and so on…

      There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  68. PrimeTime says:

    Maybe AK got bored (like most of us) of this summers HIO debate about lack of grit and size (oh those Bruins are too scary) and wanted to switch the topic. JM JM JM!!!

  69. JasonM says:

    Another angry player at the Count, when will it stop?

  70. OneTimer says:

    Ignore this storm in and teacup and move on. You don’t trade a talented (yet enigmatic) BULL of a man when we’re about to have the most scoring depth we’ve had in years. For Pete’s sake. I like Hickey, I’m just surprised at his article.

  71. Ian Cobb says:

    AK47 better watch himself. Bashing the coach in the press is never to healthy in survivor school. He might start the season with his brother.
    But then again, Jacques Martin has a hard time getting along with the players at the best of times.

    This is Jacques last year anyway, if he fails to get this club to the finals.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think you are right about JM Ian. This is his year to show he can take this team to the big dance. If not, I think they will make change.

  72. Everlasting1 says:

    AK relegated to 3rd and 4th line duty explains his team leading tally of hits lol. He seems as disgruntled as his bro was.

    “God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment: “How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Psalms 82:1-2

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  73. HabFab says:

    Slava Malamud Twitter page
    “Baseball mystery: why managers & umps have their faces so close when arguing. When I & my wife argue like that it always ends in intercourse”

    Always knew I was missing something from baseball.

  74. LL says:

    Big news…AK has been wearing blond extensions during the season. ha!

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