About last night … Canadiens edge Predators 2-1 in OT

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Shea Weber got the scoreboard tribute, but Alexander Radulov had the more spectacular return to Nashville.

Radulov set up Weber for the third-period goal that tied Tuesday night’s game 1-1.

Then, with only 30 seconds left in Overtime, Radulov beat several Nashville defenders and feathered a pass to Max Pacioretty, who blasted the winner past Pekka Rinne, earning himself the bonus $$$ that Weber and Radulov promised to the scorer who beat their former team.

The Canadiens were full value for their road win. 

They dominated Nashville for extended stretches, outshooting the home team in all three periods en route to a 38-21 advantage through 60 minutes (the Predators were held to seven shots in each period).

The Overtime was bizarre.

The gang on L’Antichambre couldn’t figure out why Nashville sat back in a three-man zone defence that allowed the Canadiens to control the puck for about four minutes of the 4:30. Shots in OT were 5-2.

And Pacioretty’s winner put him in the Canadiens’ team record book: Seven OT goals equals a team mark held jointly by Saku Koivu and Howie Morenz.

Carey Price didn’t have as much work as Rinne, but the Canadiens’ goaltender was excellent. The one shot that beat Price changed direction off Nathan Beaulieu’s stick; and Price’s save on a Colton Sissons breakaway, early in the third period, kept the score 1-0.

Weber tied it up on the next shift.

In his postgame media scrum, telecast by L’Antichambre, Michel Therrien lauded “a very solid road game”  in which the Canadiens’ displayed team spirit and and outstanding work ethic.

“It was a special game for Shea (Weber),” Therrien said, “but don’t forget Radulov. The crowd reaction to him was different, but it was an emotional game for both guys.”

The Canadiens’ defenceman, visibly moved by the home team’s classy scoreboard tribute to his years with the club, played one of his best games of the season. Weber did not put a skate wrong throughout the game, and his excellence has dramatically elevated the play of D partner Alexei Emelin.

There were no passengers on the Canadiens’ bus.

• Pacioretty had a mind-blowing 10 shots on goal … plus one that was blocked.

• Gaining confidence in his Top 6 role, Phillip Danault worked tirelessly on every shift and won 17 of his 23 face-offs.

• There were some scary moments for the pairing on the back end, but Jeff Petry has seven shots on goal. His partner, Nathan Beaulieu, had five (and blocked five shots). 

A few blemishes:

Tomas Plekanec continues to struggle. Ryan Johnston is an adventure on the back end. The fourth line played less than eight minutes.

But it was a superb team effort.

And the Canadiens are unbeaten this year.

• Slapshot777 has a long Comment on the Liveblog:

On a night that was built up on the Weber/Subban matchup it was not to be as PK goes to the IR for 2-3 weeks minimum. That aside Weber still had his home coming to his former barn.

The Preds did a classy tribute to Weber and the game went on. Lost in all of this was also a former Preds player in bad boy Radulov. Fans didn’t forget to rain down the boos on Radulov who knew that his return would not be as glorious as Weber’s was going to be.

Like a storybook, Radulov handles the puck and looks for Weber who instead of his patented slap shot beats Rhinne with a wrist shot. Weber played a good game considering what he knew would be a difficult day with his return and the media just waiting to pounce on him with a barrage of questions.

Radulov had his own storyline to write and it wasn’t finished with the assist on Weber’s game tying goal. Has the boos got more and more constant the compete level for Radulov got more and more intense.

Now Radulov is an intense player as it is, but tonight he had something to prove. Yes he made a mistake as a young player and things were done that sent him packing back to the KHL. 

Fast forward to 2016-17 and Radulov now a Montreal Canadiens is here to prove to some people who are still here that they made a mistake in the way they handled that situation going forward. 

Radulov wanted that puck like a dog wanting a bone. He got it and there was not going to be a Predator tonight especially in “OT” take it from him and gets set up behind he nets and dangles the puck until a Pred defenseman makes the first move just enough to get a pass to Pacioretty who fires home the game winner.

Radulov who got the Nashville wrath leaves with the last laugh and goes out showing certain people that he is still the player he was drafted to be and that sometimes mistakes happen and you learn well tonight I guess Nashville learned that Radulov is still a force to be reckoned with and the chapter closes in Nashville on the Weber trade.

Now let’s focus on Dallas.

425 Comments

  1. Un Canadien errant says:

    Liveblog is up.

  2. BC (Because of the Cats) says:

    According to the announcers on RDS, the rule was three shooters per side. The Russians had won after three. It seems the officials were confused right through the shootout. By rights, the decision should be reversed.

    “We gotta lotta dep.”

  3. Habfan17 says:

    @ UCE, in reponse to your reply regarding resigning Rads.

    Given the options and where the team is at this year, I would say the risk worth taking. As I mentioned, Rads has never had a serious injury and has played less games. His physical game is not the same as the one Ladd plays. I think the risk is very minimal. Less so than the one when they resigned Pleks and Markov or even DD.

    If the Habs wanted o replace him via free agency, the cost would be very high, as in what Lucic would have gotten. At least we know that Rads thrives in Montreal. He does not shrink with the pressure.

    Habfan17

  4. Un Canadien errant says:

    I kind of wanted the Russians to win the semi-final against the USA, just to give the Canadians an easier opponent in the gold medal game if they get that far. But what a game this was, great entertainment.

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    • Un Canadien errant says:

      It was good to hear Ray Ferraro recognizing Mikhail Sergachev, how he turned it on in the latter portion of the game. Maybe the coaches gave him more icetime too, we saw a lot of him at the end of the game. It’s like they realized they needed their gamebreakers out there.

  5. jols says:

    What a game…hope Canada/Sweden is just as good.

  6. on2ndthought says:

    WOW!

    What a heart-breaking way to lose a playoff game. Go to 10 minutes of 3 on 3, 10 of two on two, 10 of 1 on 1, then the shootout.

    Kudos to both teams.

    Free Front.

  7. BJ says:

    USA wins in a 7 round shootout. Too bad…

  8. BJ says:

    Just noticed that Sergachev’s jersey spelling at the WJnrs is Sergachyev?

  9. WindsorHab-10 says:

    No thread yet for tonight’s game?

    Wake up people in charge.

  10. RightNyder says:

    Sergachev with a bit of un jeu individualiste there that almost cost the Russians the game (and what a great game it is, BTW).
    Yup. He and MT will get along famously.

    • on2ndthought says:

      It seems to be one of his standard plays. It’s fine, but he lets go of the puck heading right into the o-zone corner.

      I’d really like to see him lining up on the left side of the D.

      Free Front.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Well, unlike P.K., the other practitioner of the ‘jeu individualiste’, Mikhail is actually still very young, barely 18, he’s got time to mature and know better.

      Specifically in that instance, there is no upside to playing for the tie in regulation, there’s nothing to protect. Trying to win it with a somewhat risky play is not a bad decision to make.

  11. habcertain says:

    Some good discussion below regarding Rads/Price signing, both are quite different scenarios. I cannot see any of this home discount talk, Price is probably looking to sign a final longer term deal, and has credentials to get a big pay check. As a goalie, his worth may not translate into “big” money, but big enough. Since MB has stated his whole team is built around Price, I cannot see him trying to short sell on a contract. I think the larger question is how deep is Price’s desire to win the one trophy that has eluded him to date. I think this will be the primary driver, as he is free to do as he pleases.

    Rads price tag can only go up from this point, I don’t see his play waning, as this is not his pattern. Everyone thought he was a head case and I think he has answered that question. With the absence of any long term answer to our offensive challenges, I would strike now, 7 x 4.

  12. UKRAINIANhab says:

    I’d wait to resign Radulov. Just because he might relax a bit after the contract but if the habs let this slip away I’d be dissapointed. However, in the past he had bolted (why preds fans booed him justifiably so) but I believe he’s over that.

    He’s worth paying $$ for imo.

  13. DipsyDoodler says:

    Hard to believe coming out against pineapple on pizza attracted much criticism.

    Pineapple belongs on pizza like Mathieu Darche belongs on the powerplay, or PJ Stock on a panel discussing hockey.

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  14. theox_8 says:

    Sergachev has basically been the number 8 d man on bus Russian squad and is the youngest player on the team . For some reason he hasn’t had the trust of th coach and you can see it in his tentative play at times with the limited ice time , and fear of being forever stapled on thto bench . However when he saw the first 20 seconds on the power play he looked extremely dangerous . Like Scherbak said ” who knows it’s Russia “

  15. Paz says:

    Sergachev is going to be a beast. His offensive skills are probably NHL ready today. He has fantastic balance. He passes and receives passes like a pro. He has tremendous patience and confidence.

    His confidence level is off the charts.

    It is unheard of, just does not happen, that a 17 year old Russian comes over and wins the top dman award in the OHL.

    You may not see it this tournament, and his defensive game certainly needs work, but I would say the Canadiens have a number 1 dman in Sergechev going forward.

    Not just a top pairing dman. I see him as a true number 1.

    • Cal says:

      I’d like him to be more aware of the opposition out there. Against boys and young men, he can certainly do more than hold his own. It’s against seasoned pros coming in for the hit that he appears totally unaware. Once he develops this sense, he certainly will be a beast. I just hope he’s not knocked into next week before he learns the lesson.

      • habcertain says:

        exactly what I saw, he would do well by playing in the AHL, before any leap.

      • Paz says:

        I’m sure he has a ton to learn. Of course. I’m just commenting on his skills, and what he has already accomplished in North America. And as a Bergevin first rounder, the highest since Galchenyuk, Therrien knows he will need to let Sergechev learn on the job.

        They sent him back to play in this tournament, but especially to get another year of Junior and a spot in the Memorial Cup. It was a good decision, absolutely.

        But unless there’s a dramatic downturn in his game, Sergechev will be in the NHL next season.

  16. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Not remotely impressed with Sergachev. Juulsen has been stronger imo.

    • habsr4ever says:

      Yup he has been.
      Juulsen is a keeper. I do wish he wouldn’t go for the BIG hit all the time and get out of position though. He’ll figure that part out sooner or later. His defensive game has come miles – you can tell he worked on it last year a lot hence for his O production going down. Jake Bean needs to do the same thing. Any how – I still have MUCH faith in Chevy – he is a going to be a top pairing dman some day – he has a WAY too much talent not to be.
      Chevy – some of it is he isn’t getting top pairing minutes or PP time. From his comments he isn’t too happy with the style they are playing or his coach. He is “doing what is being asked of him”. But still – he should be better than he is – he needs to accept his role and play a lot better than he has been. That is on HIM.

    • BJ says:

      Good experience for both players. I hope we can keep both and let them mature and NHL ready.

    • Caesar says:

      I have not seen too much of Juulsen He’s being used sparingly. I’ve read some bad reviews of his play on here.

      I’m glad to see some good reviews too. Hope he’s a keeper.

    • ebk says:

      then you need to see him play a game with Windsor. He’s heads and shoulders better than anyone on the ice. Both look really good to me but I see Sergachev being a better NHL player.

    • skoalbandit says:

      I would include Juulsen in a deal for duchane. I would not include Sergachev.

      Juulsen, pleks and a first.
      Colorado can expose pleks at the end of the year.

  17. Habfan17 says:

    The Habs, if they keep playing the way they are, will not have a top 10 draft pick this season, and the chances of landing a top 6 forward will be slim. Even if they do draft one, it will probably be a player that will not be ready for at least 3 seasons.

    In the system, only Sherbak who may be a top 6 player, but not ready yet. So, given the market for top 3 talent, why would you not pay Rads an average of $6 – $6.6 million on a 4 or 5 year deal?

    Folks have already made some valid points, The KHL season is shorter, so a little less wear and tear. He brings it every game, even when he played with the flu. He makes his line mates better.

    You can also point to other elite players who are or were still very effective around their mid 30’s, Thornton, the Sedins, Marleau, Chelios, Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Kovalev, Jagr, Alfredson, and Markov.

    Rads is built like a tank at 6′, 200lbs. I don’t get the hesitation to resign him from some. There is a risk with all players. Heck, PK with a bad disc in his back is now a risk. Price with his lower body issues.
    Serge Savard had a severely broken leg early on, and he went on to have a stellar career.

    I doubt very much that Rads will slack off or have a bad play off. I have no problem waiting until we see how he competes in the play offs, but to say don’t sign him long term, it would mean having to leave someone else unprotected is ridiculous. So you leave Pleks, Petry, Ghetto, some of the 3rd and 4th line players in protected. You can only lose one player.

    Habfan17

    • BJ says:

      Good post. I don’t think its Radulov’s nature to go half measure. It seems to be pedal to the metal practically every shift. He’s by far the best puck handler on the team.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Thanks! If push came to shove, I would be okay if Bergevin traded Gallagher to get a top prospect or high pick that would not have to be protected if he needs to trade someone prior to the expansion draft.

        Habfan17

        • BJ says:

          Agreed, providing Shaw comes back healthy. I still think we have as good a chance this season as anyone else providing we enter the playoffs healthy. I think the call-ups have done a good job filling in so far.

    • habsr4ever says:

      Yup – as I said below – we finally get a top line winger and we don’t want to re-sign him? He is BIG and can score and brings O and plays with heart. Oh – and he LOVES it here. Sign him YESTERDAY.
      I think he is going to get something that starts with a 7 though and times 5 years. Hopefully we can get him in the 6’s though but I doubt it.

      • Habfan17 says:

        I had posted earlier that it took a contract with the first 2 years at $7 million, the next 2 at $6 or $6.5 million and the last 2 at $5.5 million, why not. If he were to retire before the contract ends, he would not count towards the cap since he signed before he is 35.

        Based on the market, that is not out of line. I also mentioned I think he is the type of player that wants to win, so he may take a lower contract for the possibility of winning and playing in a place he loves, especially if it brings long term security.

        If it was just about the money he could have made more playing in Russia with a shorter season.

        Habfan17

  18. habsr4ever says:

    I was hoping Chevy would have a great game today vs USA. I am not seeing him on the scoresheet again though. But haven’t watched a second of the game so maybe he is playing well.

  19. zak says:

    So far Plec has been paid 2 mil per goal

    • habsr4ever says:

      Kopitar has been paid $3.33 M per goal.

      • RightNyder says:

        Kopitar has two Cup rings, scored 46 points in 46 games during those two Cup runs, is 6-3, 225 and five years younger than TP.
        He deservedly gets a little more leeway.

        • johnnylarue says:

          More leeway… or a raise!

        • habsr4ever says:

          What have you done for me lately Kopitar?
          And he has 7 more years on his contract at $10 M.
          He has no leeway making that kind of cabbage nor should he.

          Not saying Plekanec deserves a free pass either for his weak offensive numbers but thank goodness we don’t have 7 more years of $10 M cap hit like LAK do with Kopitar. I can only imagine how much Bergy would be getting ripped had he done this kind of contract on the UFA market.

          • Habfan17 says:

            No one has a magic crystal ball to see into the future. Sometimes players have an off season, or at least part of one. This may be more of a team issue too, the Kings have not been up to the standard we have seen the last few years.

            Pleks has never raised his game in the play offs and is no where near as talented as Kopitar. I would trade Pleks to the Kings today if they would do it for Kopitar and pay $3 million of Kopitar’s salary for the duration of his contract. That is only because there would be no way the Habs could afford to keep their core and pay a centre $10 million/season. No way the Kings do that!
            Habfan17

          • Gerry Pigeon says:

            Player agents are better negotiators than GM’s?

            Or do they just appear to be, as they only have to outwit one GM out of 30 to look good?

            LA couldn’t imagine a future without Kopitar, so they paid up to retain him. Chicago set the bar with their contracts to Kane and Toews. I’m a big Kopitar fan, and think he’ll actually justify his contract over the long haul.

            But should GM’s have more backbone/imagination?

            Can MB imagine a team without Price and Radulov, and find a way to convert them into young, cheap, and ascending talent? Should he?

            Or should he retain them and go for it now, wasting the chance to solidify the Habs future team of Chucky, Sergachev, Juulsen, and Scherbak? Are the Habs really good enough now to go all in?

          • RightNyder says:

            Let’s see what he’s done lately…
            Points yearly: 61, 77, 66, 81, 73, 66, 42 (in 47 games), 70, 64 and 17 this year (his shooting percentage is just 4.1, well off his career norms, meaning his low totals are likely more bad luck than declining play).
            So, he’s 29 years old, gives you 70 points per season (per 82 games), won the Byng AND the Selke just last year; did I mention 6-3, 225?
            And oh yeah, two Cup rings.
            I’d say that’s a fair bit he’s done lately as well as historically. And if Plekanec had done that much heavy lifting and it resulted in two recent Cups, I’d personally drive the Brinks truck to his house.
            Instead, he’s never won a Cup, disappears down the stretch and is most certainly a diminishing asset.

          • Paz says:

            Comparing Plekanec to Kopitar is bizarre.

          • habsr4ever says:

            Would you give Kopitar a $10 M contract times 7 years knowing what you are seeing this year? I certainly would NOT. They will regret the contract just like the Oilers will with Lucic and on and on it goes. My point is not that Plekanec is as good as Kopitar or ever was – just saying things could be worse.

  20. bwoar says:

    Eh Barberio.

    Good #7, not meant to play with other #7’s. We got a lotta #7-8 guys and between Markov and (for a bit) Emelin not being in the lineup, and N8 being a #7-#4 depending on the night, we’ve seen all kinds of chaos on the third pair.

    Barbeiro playing with a pro with just that much more experience in Pateryn, over a Hanley or Johnston or even Redmond, and he ain’t so bad. But he ain’t never gonna be much more than a useful journeyman. Not sure why folks want to raise him up like he’d play well on a top line. Dude fans more than Jose Canseco.

    This is the major problem with the nu-school offensemen that have been touted as the evolution of defenders towards a transition game – it keeps mediocre defenders out there so long as they can skate, chew gum and make a pass once in a while. Look at the parade of #7’s we’ve been throwing out there – that’s supposed to be better than a stable of stay-at-home guys?

    Yannick Weber, Raph Diaz, etc etc with different names is what we’ve got in Barbeiro, Redmond, Hanley, Johnston etc. etc.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      The same people said Lars Eller would be a top 6 player if only he had a good coach. Top line centre, they said. A Danish Jean Beliveau.

      Now Barry Trotz has him on pace for … 6 goals and 16 points this season.

      Maybe Trotz is also a bad coach.

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  21. Un Canadien errant says:

    Okay, I’ll say it. I don’t want Alex Radulov signed to a long-term deal.

    Right now, he’s found money. What we’re getting out of him right now, at 30, as he’s trying to prove himself to the entire NHL and he’s on his best behaviour, putting out 110% effort most nights, is amazing, great value for the no-risk contract Marc Bergevin signed him to.

    It’s a very short track record though, to entertain ideas of a 4 or 5 or 6 year deal. With a raise in salary.

    That’s too much risk for me. I’d fold rather than keep anteing up into that pot.

    The way to build is through the draft. I’d keep my powder dry, save those future dollars to pay for our own players that we develop. Patch on other reclamation projects on no-risk deals when we’re not using those dollars.

    Slow and steady does it. It’s unwise to swing for the fences all the time. And as I said before, I don’t think this is really a window for the Cup for us, we’re not a deep and talented club. We still need to pack on players and prospects, and we don’t benefit by taking on a 30-year-old player on a large long-term deal.

    I wanted Tomas Plekanec traded at the end of his last contract, at the deadline, before his play started to decline, when he still had value that would net us young players or prospects or draft picks. To turn around and advocate for a big UFA-type deal for Radu wouldn’t be consistent.

    Plus, signing him now means we have to protect him in the expansion draft, and will lose an even better player by consequence.

    My ideal scenario is for Radu to keep playing like he is, and if Marc Bergevin can’t get him to bite on a reasonable three-year deal, you flip him to a contender at the deadline for a young player and a first-round pick. I know this won’t happen, Marc Bergevin won’t unload players this year with our position in the standings, but long-term, this would be best for us.

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    • bwoar says:

      Nope, sorry, win now or go home in my books. If the window is open even a crack, we need to jump and jump fast. Carey Price’s knees won’t last forever, and teams just don’t get that many cracks, let alone waiting for the window to be wide open. This is the best team we’ve had in ages, and it may not look ideal but we’ve got to make the attempt.

      That said, I would let Radulov go UFA and attempt to sign him after the expansion draft. That’s as much a risk as any, considering he’s a top-line player.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        That’s a fair point. My pie in the sky where we trade Radu to Washington for Madison Bowey and a first isn’t really on the table, so I’ll ride this team as far as I can in the playoffs, but I don’t give him a huge deal.

    • Gerry Pigeon says:

      What’s the diff between your argument for not re-signing Rads, and my argument for not re-signing Price?

      Don’t tell me the track record, that Price has proven himself over a longer time period. So has Pleks, and you say you wanted him gone too.

      What we’re concerned about is the future, not the past. We only use the past as an indicator to predict the future. So I agree with your logic for both Rads and Pleks, that MB should take the present value that is set to decline, or won’t be worth the contract to retain him, and convert it into cheap, young, ascending future talent.

      So why doesn’t that logic extend to Price?

      • Habfan17 says:

        If Rads keep playing and producing the way he has been and does so in the play offs, then I don’t see why a 5 year deal at an average of $6 million would be a bad thing. So far he has shown he is a machine. He will be 36 and should fill a top 6 role for at least 4 of those years, if not all. Skill like his does not come along often.

        Who do the Habs have coming along at right wing to take his place? Only Sherbak perhaps and that won’t be for a year at least.

        Burns just got an extension and when you look at elite talent like Thornton, Marleau, Alfredson, Jagr, Lidstrom, Chelios, and even the Habs own Markov who is still very valuable after having two bad knee injuries.

        The market is the market and it would not be easy to replace what Rads brings, and would probably cost more than signing him will take.
        Habfan17

      • Habfan17 says:

        By the way, I was agreeing with you and not with UCE.

        Habfan17

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        1) I will tell you track record. Carey has a better chance of maintaining his excellent play well into his thirties, whereas Alex’s high-intensity physical style will be difficult and may cause him to break down when he’s 33 or 34.

        2) I wanted Tomas gone before his play tailed off, so I was prescient. Also, I wanted him removed so we could change it up, since our triumvirate of Tomas, David and Lars wasn’t working in the playoffs. I thought he was the most likely to bring a sizeable return, and that Lars could pick up the defensive slack, and David take up his offence. It was the best way in my mind to break up the logjam.

        • Habfan17 says:

          Yo may be right, but that is not a given, plenty of players who play physical played at a high level up until their late 30’s. Chelios, Stevens.
          Rads uses his strength to hold off players, not like Emelin, Chara or Stevens do. I doubt it will be an issue.

          Stevens in his 20th year put up 41 points and played 81 games. There was a player who relied on playing extremely physical.

          I could give more examples, but I am sure you get my point. Rads also has not played as many games or had any serious injuries.

          Habfan17

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Í’m not saying he’ll certainly drop off, just that when you evaluate the risk, it’s not a good bet to take. Andrew Ladd comes to mind as a physical forward on the wrong side of 30 with a big UFA contract.

          • Habfan17 says:

            @ UCE, given the options and where the team is at this year, I would say the risk worth taking. As I mentioned, Rads has never had a serious injury and has played less games. His physical game is not the same as the one Ladd plays. I think the risk is very minimal. Less so than the one when they resigned Pleks and Markov.

            Habfan17

        • Gerry Pigeon says:

          1) Well, I’ll give you that Radulov would more likely decline sooner than Price IF both had no history of health issues in their past. Given Price missed the entire season last year, I’d say you have more confidence in Price’s long term reliability than I do.

          2) Don’t recall your prescience, but don’t doubt you called it either. Can only agree that we needed to break up that logjam of Pleks/Eller/DD, but my preference would have been to rid ourselves of all three, and get that Franchise Center (ergo, the Trade Price proposal).

          DD has to go. If Pleks’ offence didn’t fall off a cliff and MB didn’t reward him with such a fat contract, I’d be okay with keeping him. But the one that likely would have given us the best bang for the buck over the long term was Eller. Leave him as your third line checking center, don’t pay him that much, give him a decent pair of speedy two way wingers, and Lars would have been just fine. IF MT could have only not toyed with Lars so much, the sensitive Dane just wasn’t built to handle it.

    • RightNyder says:

      I agree with the draft philosophy in general and the best-behaviour deal as well, but in this case, it’s only money, and it’s not my money.
      Do we have anyone coming up capable of filling a top-three role? Nope.
      I’m pretty sure you could strike a deal and agree to sign it after the expansion draft. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

      • johnnylarue says:

        A Happy New Year to the lot of you, and a hearty plus one to those nudges and to those winks.

        The post-season thrill ride will determine how much of a discount The Adulated One is willing to take to stick around in the city that gives a poop about hockey. And while I don’t get the impression the guy is only trying because he needs to fund his retirement projects, leaving him unsigned during the playoffs should give his motivation the extra little boost it does not appear to need.

    • BJ says:

      What is the value of a Radulov if you were trading for this type of player. We have him, so lets keep him. Terms? Leave that up to MB, my opinion would be 5.5 for 3 years + a team option for 4 years.

    • myron.selby says:

      Sorry @UCE but I just don’t see the logic on this one. When you have a player of this caliber you don’t worry about saving the money to pay some future mid-first round draft pick who won’t be looking for the money until Rads is long gone.

      As to the track record – don’t just consider the sample size from this year, check out what he did in the KHL. The book on him was that he brought it every game and every shift same way he’s doing for the Habs.

      I just don’t see who you can pass on someone with his skills and work ethic who clearly loves playing in Montreal plus he makes every player on his line better regardless of where they put him (never mind the incredible chemistry he has with Galchenyuk.)

      If he prices himself out of the market, then fine you say goodbye. But if he can be had for 6 or 6 1/2 for 4 years it would be nuts not to sign him. The shorter KHL seasons meant he doesn’t have nearly the miles on him that he would have had if he’d been here all along.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        “I don’t want Alex Radulov signed to a long-term deal.”

        You’re talking 4 years. I don’t think that’s going to get it done. It’s the long-term that scares me.

        I don’t think Alex will start to dog it out there, like I’d fear for Thomas Vanek or Benoit Pouliot or Michael Ryder, but we’re seeing him at his absolute best, when he’s got massive reason to be motivated.

        Before last night’s game, I’d noticed that his interest fell off a little, he wasn’t as noticeable since he lost his linemate Chucky. I’m not sure if he can continue to play this intensely, with a fat contract in his back pocket, with an aching shoulder, at 34, in the dog days of January.

        As a scaredy-cat armchair GM, I don’t want to pull the trigger on a massive deal based on half a season, as good as it is.

    • bustthebusters says:

      Respectfully disagree. Slow and steady does not do it given the habs record on mid to bottom level drafting. Sign Rads 3years 6 1/2 max. As to trades, I would move Price. We have 3 good goalie prospects in the system right now and nothing up front top lines in the forward position. I would rather eat some crow for a few years and get our hands on 1st rounders if necessary as a result of these moves.

    • habsr4ever says:

      We finally get a top line winger and you don’t want to re-sign him? If our team was a rebuilding team I could see the logic in flipping him at the deadline. But our window is NOW (next 2-3 years) – it is a MUST we sign Radulov. We also have to show Price we want to WIN. He won’t want to sign on with a team that doesn’t have a hope in heck of winning a cup.
      Radulov – 5 years times $7 M should get er done.
      Price – 7 years times $9 M hopefully gets er done.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        “I don’t want Alex Radulov signed to a long-term deal.”

        It’s not that I don’t want to re-sign him, it’s that I don’t want to give a player who’ll be 31 next season a 5 or 6 year deal.

        We laughed at the contract Ryan Kesler got from the Ducks two summers ago, and now HIO wants to launch the same adventure for Alex Radulov. He’s good, now, but he won’t be that good then.

    • JohnInTruro says:

      We could also look at the money he gets in the KHL. I don’t agree with the best behavior part. Guy has always been a fantastic talented player. Some people do grow up, but whether he plays here or in the KHL the guy will get paid.

    • johnnylarue says:

      PS: Masterful troll job there, UCe. “Build through the draft…”

      Classic.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Did you get my Claude Giroux post, where I said it was time to draft WHL wingers like Lindsay Vallis and Terry Ryan, instead of that cupcake Giroux?

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      If Rads sign him, he tanks and he leaves for Russia, does he count on the cap? If his salary doesn’t count then the risk is mitigated IMO.

      Anyway, I want to see how he ends the season. If he doesn’t perform in the playoffs, bye-bye.

      • JohnInTruro says:

        DDO, in my opinion if he is playing with Danault, Mitchell, Flynn, DD, Plekanec (at this point), I wouldn’t consider any possible poor playoff performance enough not to resign him.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        This is the NHL, so who knows. Normally a player with a valid NHL contract can’t play in the KHL and vice-versa.

        We’re not in the good books, but if it’s the Bruins or the Kings or Lou Lamoriello, whatever they want to do is fine by Gary Bettman and Colin Campbell.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      We all agree that drafting is the way to go, but I don’t see how not re-signing Radulov helps you in that regard.

      Unless you want to trade him this year, but that is what the Expos used to do. Fans will just stop watching.

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      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Remember when we were strangled by the Scott Gomez, Brian Gionta, Mike Cammalleri, Tomas Plekanec and Tomas Kaberle contracts, and we couldn’t make any moves? I want to avoid that scenario.

        What I’m saying is you don’t build with veterans on big contracts, you build with young players on cheap contracts that you re-sign to affordable deals like we did with Carey and Max and Gally.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Thanks to everyone for responding. I am aware this won’t be one of my more popular opinions/posts, like when I decried the profanation of pizza by pineapple.

      I understand your reasoning, but I’ll insist that we’re better off letting Radu walk than by signing him for five or six years. I’d be happy with a three-year deal, maximum.

      • Gerry Pigeon says:

        Pineapple is good on pizza IMO 🙂

        Like Rads a lot, but my max is 3 years at $6M, with one team option year.

        Betting that doesn’t get it done, in which case, I wouldn’t deal him at the deadline, would rather have him on my team in the playoffs while he tries to show 29 other teams why they should ante up…

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Contract options are no longer allowed with the current CBA, so we shouldn’t really mention them in our scenarios.

          My inner draft nerd wants me to deal Radu as a major piece at the deadline for oodles of assets, but I realize that’ll never happen. We’d need him for our own playoff push.

          • Gerry Pigeon says:

            Didn’t know that contract options no longer allowed, thanks for the info.

            I understand why you’d want assets for Rads if he won’t sign, but think the Habs owe it to Price, Rads, and the fans to take one shot at the Cup with Rads in the fold.

    • The Big E says:

      “My ideal scenario is for Radu to keep playing like he is, and if Marc Bergevin can’t get him to bite on a reasonable three-year deal …”

      Okay, let’s say Bergevin can get him to take a reasonable FOUR year deal … assuming Radulov is more interested in playing where he really likes the team, organisation, and city, and not looking to cash in as much as he can … the negotiations are “more Pacioretty, less P.K.”, if you will. Why not?

      Would I want to pay him so much that we have to start discarding our young up-&-coming talent to make room for his big cap hit? Nope. I guess it all depends on what Radulov’s expectations are for his next contract. Maybe some crazy GM out there wants to give him “seven by seven” or some silly thing, and he doesn’t want to say no … okay, thanks for one great season and good luck!

      But IF something reasonable can be done, I’d jump at it.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Four years would have to be really reasonable. Really really reasonable on money if he wants the fourth year. I say this as a scaredy-cat armchair GM.


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