About last night …


The Canadiens were checkmated by a Bishop.
The Ottawa goaltender used his 6′-7″ frame to block most of the net on the 45 shots he faced. And Ben Bishop got some help from his goalposts.
The Canadiens played well enough to win and were stymied by a hot goalie.
End of story.

But of course it won’t be.

Carey Price’s critics – confined, for most of the season to date, to the dark, damp, sewer-like sections of the Comments section – will be in full voice blasting the Canadiens’ goaltender for his week glove side on Dave Dziurzynski’s goal and Price’s ineptitude in allowing two Senators to beat him in the Shootout.

The phenomenon had Patrick Roy chuckling during L’Antichambre.

“I can’t believe the negativity,” St. Patrick said, marvelling that media members were asking Michel Therrien about Price’s performance after the Canadiens had dominated Ottawa in its own building for 65 minutes.

So none of that negativity here, except to acknowledge out that Price was not the better goaltender at Scotiabank Place Monday night … although he did make 23 saves and lowered his GAA to 1.90.

I should also mention that P.K. Subban was not the Canadiens’ best defenceman in Ottawa and had less even-strength ice time than any of his five confreres. He also took a late-game penalty, on a Canadiens’ power play, that carried over into Overtime, giving Ottawa a dangerous 4-on-3 power play.

In an unusually cerebral edition of L’Antichambre – Roy elevates the tone almost as much as P.J. Stock diminishes it – the goaltending immortal and his fellow panelists – Carbo, Vincent Damphousse and Gaston Therrien – suggested P.K.’s difficult evening was evidence of the trouble he’s had adjusting to a system that works.

Controlling gaps at their blueline, hunting in packs in their  zone with forwards tracking back tirelessly (in contrast, Patrick Roy said, to what we saw from Scott Gomez last season), the Canadiens have worked hard on back pressure and virtually eliminated odd-man rushes. Swarming the puck along the boards, with another forward monitoring the slot for late-coming attackers, also has reduced those wide-open looks that blueline blasters have enjoyed against Price in recent seasons.

The Canadiens have bought into the way Michel Therrien wants them to play … especially in the first period. They began the game by outshooting the home team 12-5 – the eighth consecutive game in which the Canadiens have held an opponent under 10 shots in the opening period. This suggests a high degree of preparedness and a commitment to the game plan – both of which are a tribute to Therrien and his staff.

For the first time in many seasons, the Canadiens have three lines who can score. This is particularly valuable on the road – where the Canadiens play six of their next seven games – because the home team coach, with last change, can’t focus on shutting down one scoring line, as was the case matching defensive forwards against David Desharnais, Erik Cole and Max Pacioretty last season.

DD went 11-5 on faceoffs against Ottawa. After 21 shots on goal in his first 18 games, DD had five against Ottawa. His new winger, Brendan Gallagher, was in Bishop’s face all night …. or at least looking up at the Ottawa goaltender. Gallagher and Pacioretty each had four SoG.

Brandon Prust, with four hits and another Energizer Bunny game, has ably filled in for Rene Bourque on a line with Tomas Plekanec and Brian Gionta.

Lars Eller, Erik Cole and Alex Galchenyuk were on for the Ottawa goal. But Eller was a red-hot 12-5 on draws, Cole had four SoG and Galchenyuk worked his way into a couple promising positions, only to be foiled by Bishop.

Chris Neil had EIGHT hits but was in the penalty box when Andrei Markov scored. The Neil line was the only one to trouble the Canadiens unduly.

Your heroes had their highest shot total of the season. The Canadiens deserved to win in Ottawa, but Bishop was otherworldly and got help from the ironwork.

It’s on to Toronto. If the Canadiens get another 45 shots Wednesday and Price is on his game, the boys may finally get their first win on Ontario ice this season.



  1. rhino514 says:

    The thing about the Better Person comment is a cultural thing. In French, especially in the context he said it in, it is quite a normal thing. On l´anitchambre and other French forums, the tone is a wee bit more informal, you can branch out into an occasional broader comment about life in general. The conversations are somewhat more natural.
    In English the Better Person comment, especially when singled out from a much more inclusive discussion for translation purposes, comes across as moralizing to Anglos. It really wasn´t. It wasn´t said at all in a moralizing tone.
    I think that these subtle cultural lost in translation tidbits are a reason why Therrien rubs many anglos the wrong way.
    People also are rather harsh on him for losing his cool in one or two isolated incidents; again, francophones as a whole are probably somewhat more expressive of their emotions and this isn´t seen as a bad thing.
    Many on here were angry when he was hired because they believed in The Best Man for the Job argument. But it isn´t an either/or.
    Therrien knows how to coach. Therrien is also francophone, and in the environment we live in it is kind of one is out of touch if one suggests this isn´t a plus. He´s had to go twelve and four to hush the critics, and it is still plain to see that a short losing streak will bring back all of his critics to the surface.

    • Loonie says:

      And yet when Therrien speaks with Subban, he has to understand that he’s speaking to an Anglo.

      It may be a pre-requisite to speak French in order to become the Habs coach, but to become a coach for any NHL team it’s required that the coach speak English.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Communication is critical the head coaching job. It is the skill that differentiates a head coach from an assistant coach. Between the ears, MT knows coaching. No doubt. His problem has always been what happens along the way from his brain to his mouth. Unfortunately, his English is not optimal but it is improving.

  2. SteverenO says:

    The best way to settle a dispute is by looking at the numbers:

    If we want to rank the effectiveness of HABS defencemen this year in even strength situations here are the numbers:

    minutes of ice time per team goal scored :

    Boullion; 22 minutes ES TOI per goal scored
    Subban: 24 minutes ES TOI per goal scored

    Diaz ; 24 minutes ES TOI per goal scored
    Georges: 25 minutes ES TOI per goal scored

    Markov ; 31 minutes ES TOI per goal scored
    Emelin : 32 minutes ES TOI per goal scored

    minutes of ice time per team goal allowed :

    Diaz; 41 minutes ES TOI per goal allowed
    Georges: 40 minutes ES TOI per goal allowed

    Emelin: 40 minutes ES TOI per goal allowed

    Subban; 39 minutes ES TOI per goal allowed
    Bouillion: 32 minutes ES TOI per goal allowed

    Markov: 25 minutes ES TOI per goal allowed

    So the evidence shows that in even strength situations the HABS are least likely to score when Markov is on the ice (virtually equal to Emelin, and the opponents are MOST likely to score when Markov is on the ice.

    Perhaps now some posters will see why there is a clamoring to See Markov”s time reduced in favor of Subban in even strength situations.

    Shelling out ice time as he s doing it right now will cost the team goals and games over the course of the year.

    And please, for once will people stop saying that PK is hurting the team with his “style” of play. It is simply not true.

    MT should focus on getting the most out of a skilled, but aging and tiring, Markov by dishing out minutes properly.
    Sure , he can, and should, point out mistakes that Subban makes, but PLEASE, PLEASE, do not try to turn him into an “average” player.


    Steve O.

    • GGtheHab says:

      Those numbers are a good measuring stick, but don’t take into account who the opponents those minutes are played against..or with..can you expect a lot of goals when playing with White and Moen out there, conversely minutes played against stamkos and st louis arent equal to minutes played against 4 liners..numbers usually dont lie, but arent the be all end all either..I guess what I am saying is you have to take into account which forwards the D are paired with to get the true picture..I am fairly happy with all 6 of our D men this year and MT has been putting them out in a situation in which they can succeed..

  3. I’m not generally a fan of enforcers who can’t do much else, but this article has me liking Brian McGrattan, who’s on waivers right now –not just toughness, but strength of character too. He entered the NHLPA’s substance abuse program in spite of the eyebrows he knew that would raise, has been sober for four years now, and helped keep Tootoo on the wagon as well.


    Not to mention, he’s 6’4″ and 235lbs, and is a UFA in July earning $600k this year. We could do a lot worse as far as tough guys go.

    Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  4. habs001 says:

    Hard to complain about last nights lose as the Habs over the last 4 years have won more games when they have been outplayed than lost and outplayed the opposition…The most important thing is to make the playoffs…the position in the standings may not be that important

  5. krob1000 says:

    How many people on here cheered for Ivan Drago over Rocky? would that have made Rocky an inspirational movie?
    How many people noticed the timing of our latest unbeaten streak? Bourque gets drilled standing up for someone, Gorges, Gallagher, Prust…they all fought losing battles…. that is if winning fights were what mattered in hockey…they are not!
    NIghts like tha bring a team together..gusy willing to pay the price…that si what has inspired guys like Gallagher to drive the net so hard, Galchenyuk to block shots. How can you not stand up and be accoutnable when teammates are doing that for you?
    Prust has 247 career fights and Moen has his fair share….do they win em all? nope …does it really matter? nope….
    Team toughness and 4 playable lines is what the team has…they have tough guys who can play the game and eat big enough mintues to free everyone else up…and at the same time they are not too valuable like Chara or Lucic that they have to pick their spots….
    I like the makeup of the squad …of course if there is a decent hockey playing guy who can also fight who is available and fits comes along…sure make it happen….as long he is a hockey upgrade on a current player…there is no fighting scoreboard out there

    • Whatever says:

      After the last game against the Leafs, I felt like Apollo against Drago.

    • greenfield says:

      I don’t think the Habs history of cups will back up your opinion.

      In our better days, we always had a stable of policemen who we could insert in our line-up when facing truculent oponents. If not, it opens up the possibility of Guys like Orr taking runs at our smaller players. Did you enjoy seeing Orr “clock” Bourque? How about Georges fighting a goon like McClaren? How many scraps do you want to see Gallagher in, giving away 30 pounds? Is it worth it to protect Chucky?

      Look at our history. Ferguson played on the wing with big Jean for a reason. Lupien, Bouchard and Chartraw were always dressed when playing Boston and Philly in the 70’s. Same with Kordic in the 80’s.

      Would a guy like McGratten or Parros be less productive than Armstrong or Moen?

  6. commandant says:

    We have points in 8 straight hockey games, and we dominated the game last night only to lose cause Bishop had a horseshoe up his butt, and stood on his head.

    Clearly though reading the comments here, the sky is falling.

    Go Habs Go!
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  7. HabFanSince72 says:

    A store near my house has put up newspapers on its windows while they renovate.

    Oddly, it is the sports page from the Montreal Star in 1971!

    The big stories are John Ferguson being unhappy at his playing time (he was to retire that year), and keeper Rogatien Vachon losing his starting job to some unknown college kid (it was very unusual for college hockey players to make the NHL in those days).

  8. Loonie says:

    If everything good that happens with this organization is to be attributed to the coach I have two questions.

    1. Why is Jacques Martin so disliked here?
    2. Who’s to blame for the bad?

    The prevalent answers seem to be…..

    1. Because last year was bad(though it’s funny Martin didn’t get an opportunity to get the team out of their funk.

    2. PK Subban is to blame.

    • ed says:

      Martin was Gainey’s man. As soon as Gainey stepped aside, Martin was done.

      Subban is blamed because there are some real clowns that post on this site, and they know virtually nothing about hockey.

    • BJ says:

      1) Martin would not have given an 18 and a 20 year old ice time. He did not make vets accountable (see Gomez) etc. This years team is a better prepared team with a better system and certainly a more entertaining one.
      2) I don’t understand your comment re. PK. He’s not to blame last year nor this year. He’s playing in a different system.
      I don’t know if its just me but he seems a bit slower. Did he put on too much muscle mass?

      • Loonie says:

        You have no idea whether or not he would have played Galchenyuk.

        And the point about Subban is easily understandable for somebody who’s been able to read a half dozen comments here. He’s been cast in a negative light daily by many members.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      You have quoted many times here the great Hal Gill as it relates to PK, perhaps you would like to include Hal Gills quotes about how little communication JM provided the team. Spacek echoed those feelings.

      Jacques Martin does indeed know hockey, but his skillset in communicating seemed to be extremely poor.

      Your continued despisement towards MT is highly entertaining. It is absolutely killing you that he is doing well. Especially in light of how you felt Hartley was the better choice.

      • Loonie says:

        Are you kidding Gerald?

        I didn’t say a negative word about Therrien. If you’ve been speaking with me over the last few weeks here you should know that I’ve eaten crow regarding Therrien and feel he’s been great.

        But having said that, he shouldn’t be getting ALL of the credit for the team’s success thus far.

        And if he is to be getting all of that credit. Why doesn’t Martin get any for his success as coach?

        Very hypocritical and that was the point of the post.

  9. ed says:

    I have no doubt that several regular posters on this site would have booed Subban last night.

    They have come out of hibernation now that spring is in the air.

    You know who you are.

    • Loonie says:

      I wonder if fans are aware that when they collectively boo Subban and only Subban that it appears pretty bad on the surface.

      An arena packed with 20,000 people and a great number of them booing the only black man on the ice.

      That doesn’t look so good.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Booing is both idiotic and cowardly.

        (Except when directed at Zdeno Chara.)

      • ed says:

        it doesn’t look good because it ISN’T GOOD.

        it’s god awful and shameful.

        edit: I agree that Chara deserves to be booed for the assault on Max.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        So then you also think every fan in Montreal that boos Chara has a racist attitude towards Slovak people? Wow, really happy you went there with that, given your lecture to someone else on this site about racisim just a few days ago.

        • Loonie says:

          No I don’t.

          I’m saying it looks bad when the only black player on the ice is the only player on the ice getting booed every time he touches the puck.

          Looks bad.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Well then agree it looks bad when Montreal always boos the tallest Slovak player on the ice also. Or the only player from Cole Harbour on the ice when we play Pittsburgh.

            I have no defence for Ottawa fans, but booing other teams best players has happened in many leagues for years.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          I think he made it clear that he thinks people are booing Chara because he almost killed a guy.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I am going to have to call my Mom then in Wpg. and ask what it is every other teams best player has done to Winnipegers, because they do the same thing to opposing teams best players.

            Nice that we Montreal fans have a convenient excuse to why we boo, but Ottawa are evil and racist.

            Ahhh we are perfect indeed!!!!!

      • habs001 says:

        Seem thing will happen to Crosby sat in Montreal

        • HabinBurlington says:

          No no we aren’t allowed to say that, it doesn’t fit the story he is telling us.

          • Loonie says:

            I’m not telling a story. I’m saying it looks bad.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Every arena in Canada practically boos the opposing teams best player. Winnipeg does it, Montreal does it, it happens. It is a compliment to how much people think of Subban. THey are afraid of his talents as a member of the opposition.

          • Loonie says:

            I see the occasional booing of a player in a Canadian city, not all of the time Gerald.

            Either way the player they’re choosing to boo isn’t a good choice from an optics stand point.

            And that was my point. No accusations, all about how it looks.

          • sheds88 says:

            i bet every fan that boos a player would take that player on their team in a second. there is a reason why they are booing them. feelings aside….would you take chara on your team ??? i would. how about crosby?, briere ?

      • Cal says:

        That’s crap, Tom. The Ottawa fans were booing a Montreal Canadien. That’s it. That’s all.

      • HardHabits says:

        That is uncalled for. People boo Chara and other players all the time. Subban was booed because he is a Hab and because he has a bad rep. To suggest he shouldn’t be booed because he is black is a reverse form of racism. People boo at sports games as well as cheer. Maybe you politically correct people should be watching figure skating instead of hockey.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Not sure I understand the need to antagonize this subject. There is always going to be fans here who like or dislike certain players on the team, for a host of reasons I will never understand.

      I like PK, I think we have a special talent and I want and wish him the best success possible. However, I also feel that as a result of Markov’s injuries and the inability of past mgmt to bring in other Defencemen that PK was pressed into a role to early in his career.

      I think the whole talk of Therrien trying to make him a better person is BS and that Therrien simply is asking of him, what he is asking of all his players. The need for PK to be treated different or special is odd to me.

      He struggled last night, he will learn from it, and he will continue to develop into a very very good defenceman in this league.

    • HardHabits says:

      No they don’t know who they are. Why don’t you call them out? Because if you are suggesting that I am one these hypothetical people that would have booed Subban you’re way off base.

    • Cal says:

      Subban was booed IN OTTAWA BY OTTAWA FANS, ffs. Turning this into some sort of race sh-t is ridiculous.

      • HardHabits says:

        I so agree with you on this one Cal.

        I also happy that at least you got the avatar mojo good luck charm thing right. It was one of Yeats’ permutations that suggested not too long ago that my Tank™ avatars kept the Habs honest. I am not sure anyone noticed but last season I didn’t use my Tank™ avatar, which is why they actually did finally Tank™. 😀

        HH’s juju is powerful.

  10. Chris1138 says:

    Bourque is concussed as per Stubbs as per Therrien.

    –| Brad Marchand | Starley Cup Chanpiar 2011 |–

  11. BJ says:

    McGrattan on waivers. Now is the time to pick up a heavyweight.

    • krob1000 says:

      And whose spot is he going to take? Moen?White? Armstrong? all guys who can play 10 minutes a game and eat pk minutes allowing better players to not get burnt in pk situations……any team with Moen/White/Bouillon and Prust is tough enough to compete with anyone. If it is Ryan white and Travis Moen fighting instead of Gallagher and Gorges that part of that game isn’t remembered the way it was …the score ..well that was what it was.

      • shiram says:

        If he could take Nokelainen’s spot…

      • BJ says:

        We already have two in the stands collecting paychecks so why not a third. He would be more valuable coming in than Armstrong in games such as Philadelphia, Toronto and Boston. I don’t want to see anyone trying to decapitate Plekanec, and no retribution possible as no one on the team can answer the bell.

        • krob1000 says:

          Prust has 247 fights under his belt since Junior….he is a heavyweight…he takes on all comers…so he may not beat up teh best of the best…he fights them…he takes the burden away from the other guys. He stands up for his teammates….we also have our own resident crazy in Ryan WHite…he may not be a heavyweigth but he is every bit as dangerous as ORr and his attempted knee….if someone tries that again with him in the lineup…he will not look to drop the gloves fairly.
          The Habs are plenty tough enough…

          • adamkennelly says:

            Prust is too valuable and frankly too small to fight the big dudes..he can do it but will end up getting hurt. Bringing in a true Heavyweight to use in place of Armstrong against certain teams would be smart. Toronto has 3 guys we cannot deal with – that alone should be enough to garner some action on this front.

          • Whatever says:

            Take the burden away from Prust like Prust does for his teammates.

            And, White is nothing. I like him and admire him for his effort, but no one is afraid of him.

      • Timo says:

        He can take Armstrong’s spot – will you miss him?

        • B says:

          Compared to watching McGrattan try to take a shift (or god forbid kill a penalty), I would absolutely miss Armstrong out there.

          –Go Habs Go!–

        • krob1000 says:

          whoever has to play pk will….and his fourth line linemates (when Bourque comes back that means Elelr goes back there…so two guys go….and the fourth line can no longer play anymore than 5 minutes. Prust is aas valuable of a tough guy as there is in the NHL…the Habs are lucky to have him and his being there as both tough guy and a versatile player are a big reason the boys are having the success they are

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        No need to take up a roster spot. He could participate in the warmup as a 13th forward and attack a Broon – a bit like that Flyer did with Claude Lemieux way back.

        Then he gets tossed and it’s a non-issue.

    • Whatever says:

      Forget the fans. Pick him up for the players. It’s a hockey move. Makes the players feel bigger, courageous and builds unity. Do it for poor Brandon Prust who is doing far more than he should.

      Will he stop players from getting injured? No. Will it make Markov feel better to be able to play his game when Neil is being a dick. Yes. Put him in the games against the teams that like to push us around and take out Armstrong.

      I don’t see the big deal unless it goes against your personal philosophy of what hockey is supposed to be. Which I couldn’t care less about. I don’t see how any negatives would out match the positives.

  12. HardHabits says:

    I take exception to the idea that somehow the coaching staff is ruining PK Subban. That idea is even more ludicrous than the proposition that he is already an elite defence man in the NHL.

    Let’s put things into perspective. The only thing elite about PK’s game were the minutes he was accorded last season. As far as his athletic abilities there is no question that he is a major stud. The thing holding Subban back are not the reins that are trying to guide him but his desire to do too much and get bitten in the ass for it. Last night we saw a little bit of the Subban that led the Habs to drafting Alex Galchenyuk. It is something that earned him #6 on the D depth chart, deservedly. Subban might need to sit out a game if this keeps up and I am sure that all the mini violins will come out in concerto to play the saddest tune ever.

    I like Subban but he needs to play within the parameters laid out before him by the coaching staff, not the other way around.

    For all the people who lament PK’s treatment know that if Therrien was to follow your advice we’d be drafting in the top 5 again.

    • shiram says:

      “For all the people who lament PK’s treatment know that if Therrien was to follow your advice we’d be drafting in the top 5 again.”

      Said the guy with the tank avatar.
      So you must agree with those giving advice to Therrien, or has the tank been loaned to the Sabres/Caps?

      • ed says:

        Shiram, didn’t you hear? The “tank” was just a joke all along.

        Except if the Habs start losing, of course, then the “tank” will immediately come back, full force.

        • shiram says:

          Are you saying HH is a fair-weather tanker?

        • krob1000 says:

          The “tank” landed Galchenyuk and Collberg….it was very successful and has paid immediate dividends. It was reason do add by subtraction, it was reason to go sign Prust and Bouillon. The team did not lose anyone but instead gained several players….it was about as successful of a tanking as humanly possible…well orchestrated and the results more than satisfactory.

      • Cal says:

        That tank has been a good luck talisman since the 4-2 mark this season. HH MUST NOT CHANGE IT. LIVES ARE RIDING ON IT. Ok- just kidding!

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      “we’d be drafting in the top 5 again”…I think that is being a little rough HH. The Habs did not finish last last year because PK was doing whatever he wanted . If he wasn’t the best defenceman last year, who was? Anyway, this was not the point of your post (sorry).

      Is the coaching staff ruining PK? If so, then PK’s responsible too because, even if he disagrees with them, he should be mentally strong and professional enough not to let it bother him. I’ve worked for people that I have disagreed with but that never affected my work ethic. The one stat last night that bothered me about him was he had only one hit. Coaches can’t prevent you from hitting people. PK needs to accept some responsibility for his play.

      Ruining implies that PK is getting worse. Putting aside last night’s game, he’s not getting worse. I believe that the coaches are not ruining him BUT they are not helping him either. My biggest issue is not his offensive game but his defensive game. He used to play on the #1 pair against the other team’s best. Now he is playing with the team’s 6th defenseman. He is not killing penalties anymore. He is frequently not on the ice in the final minute when a stop is needed. Are the other guys that much more talented than him? He has so much defensive upside and we’re seeing less of it than we’ve seen in prior seasons. Sorry but I think coaches should bear some responsibility for that.

      Just a difference of opinion…I can’t play the violin so please pick another instrument. 🙂

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      Yes, let’s get PK to play like a robot. That’s the ticket.

  13. SteverenO says:

    I know that he scored an important goal, our only goal of the game, but I thought that Markov played his worst game of this season. In fact, it appears that his speed, stamina, and skating are regressing every game.

    I hope the coach gives him some well deserved time off BEFORE he gets injured .

    As another poster said below. Weber and Kaberle are both tradeable and their value can potentially be enhanced if the coach lets them play a few games, here and there.

    Bouillion can use an occasional day off as well, not that he is showing any signs of slowing down yet, but at his age he too can probably benefit from the occasional night off.

    I hope the coach utilizes the depth we have in the pressbox, and the minors too, if necessary, in order to keep everyone legs fresh on the upcoming grueling road trip.


    Steve O.

  14. Whatever says:

    Just curious. If we picked up McGratten off waivers, would we have to expose another player off our current roster on waivers? Keeping in mind we already lost a player on waivers in Palushaj.

    • B says:

      The only current roster player they can send to Hamilton without having to clear waivers is Gallagher (I believe Galchenyuk is too young to play in the AHL). So unless they send down Gallagher, I believe they would have to waive and send down someone else to make room to add another roster player.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  15. HabFanSince72 says:

    Factoid of the day. The 8th fastest growing industry in the world, after solar panels and for-profit universities, is …. hot sauce!

  16. pete says:

    i agree with stevereno bishop is a good golie who needs playing time he is a big guy who knows how to use his size.price looked off his game. Is price a good golie yes no question but like every player in the nhl there is off nights.Should the players having a bad night get told about it .. Yes price,suban,white,eller.Who ever it is needs to know about it.The forward and defence are doing a good job when they stick to the game plan and play a full 60 min.The golies do there part as well play smart .For example budij is not a puck playing golie so dont play the puck. price is a verry calm golie he needs to not over analize the plays and when that done hes great. On that note lets hope we beat the leafs play smart and stay out of the box let them go to the sin bin the hot heads they are.

  17. Psycho29 says:

    From Huffington Post:

    Don Cherry Is Holding CBC Hockey Back


    Some of the comments below the article are worth reading….

    For example:
    “If one is going to make insinuations that DC is racist for making claims about Subban and Ovechkin that are accepted around the league, then yes, they do need to understand the game. Because accusing DC of racism based on those examples is unbelievably misinformed.”

  18. Propwash says:

    Subban has a bad game and he’s “ruined” lol, that’s rich.


  19. 365fan says:

    Brian McGrattan on waivers. Just sayin’ ……

  20. frontenac1 says:

    @Burly. Rodman is cool,but Snoop Dog would be better IMO.

  21. Saltwater Cowboy says:

    “Price has ‘settled’ but he rarely steals games the way Halak used to regularly. If he doesn’t go rounds this year we should be drafting a goalie”.

    Now, that statement is beyond Stupid!

  22. kirbhabs says:

    You know, a 48 game season is very interesting. Much more exciting when every point counts. I know it will never happen but a 72 game schedule seems to make more sense… Less injuries, more practice time, points mean more should make for a more exciting game

  23. HabFanSince72 says:

    I loved the book Moneyball. I think hockey needs more empirical tools. Corsi is a reasonable attempt at that.

    But the one I can’t understand is the notion that shooting % is entirely driven by luck, and that if you’re shooting % is different than the mean it is only a matter of time until you “revert to the mean” – a concept which the statsheads do no understand.

    Surely shooting % improves if you shoot better. Isn’t that reasonable?

    • Ali says:

      When you flip a coin 100 times, it will be 50/50 heads or tails. If you flip it only 10 times, it might 7 times tails and 3 times heads. The more attempts you make will bring you closer to the efficient average.

    • krob1000 says:

      A little bit of both…I haven;t read the book…butI think they are looking at a particular players shoting percentage relative to their own past. If a guy who is a career 12 percent shooter is still generating the same amount of shots but is only shooting 6 percent it is reasonable to assume e will work himself out of the funk. If the shots go down or someone is a notoriuosly low percentage shooter it isn’t likely to change long term.
      I think back to Michael Ryder and his horrific start that one year…he was geting chances but just could not score…..he proved everyone wrong. You looka t Patches this year at the beginning….I look at Galchenyuk…he has had some great chances and been robbed more than his fair share of times. That will not last forever..he is taking good shots. Eventually you get some luck and a few shots go in that maybe shouldn’t or should have but you were just bested by a good goaltender ona given night.
      Save percentage is the goaltending equivalent……it isn;t a be all and all but is a pretty good tool ….obviousy some teams give up more shots from the outside,etc,etc…but in general it is a decent guideline…for shooter when coaches really get concenrned is when the chances cease to happen or all of the sudden the shots are generated from different areas than normal.

    • shiram says:

      Is Gio taking that many bad shots? I have not noticed if he is, but he’s been shooting quite a lot too.
      Only Plekanec and Pacioretty are shooting more pucks per game.

    • habsnyc says:

      If a player takes 250 shots a season and scores 30 goals, their shootin gpercentage is 12%. if their percentage declines by 20%, to 10%, which is a big change, then they would score 5 less goals. i do not think that shooting accuracy changes meaningfully from season to season if a player takes three or more shots per game.

      shooting percentage is a function of from where the player shoots, same as in basketball. shooting percentage is also impacted by reaction time which declines with age and injury. when a forward struggles to either get to the high percentage spot at the right time or fairs to shoot quickly, their percentage declines. i think speed and reflexes decline before accuracy changes.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  24. Prust for PM says:

    The ‘Ruins have played the least games in the NHL; 4 less than the Canadiens. There’s no room left on the Boston Bandwagon right now; “everyone” loves them. When they have to cram those 4 “extra” games in over the course of an already super demanding schedule I say, “Good luck, ‘Ruins.” Little practice, less rest. Their testosterone levels will shrink come May-as well as their bandwagon. Let’s see how Big Z holds up under this sched; and 4 rounds of playoffs. We’ll see if “size matters” as much as many posters think…

    Cannonading drive!!

    • The Dude says:

      What a joke”We’ll see if size matters” 😉 Ya well, ask a woman 😮 .Boston will make changes as will any other team that’s won the Stanley Cup in the last 20 years and hopefully Montreal does as well.Players the Habs have for trade :Gionta, Gorges, Armstrong ,Cole,Kaberle,Dias and Weber”well 0ver 20 million in yearly contracts” And get some truculence and skill so we can have a play-off run with out a bag on one head! !

    • Whatever says:

      I see the opposite. The Bruins got to ease into the season coming out of the lockout to give their players a chance to get in proper mid-season shape for performance and to protect from injury. Whenever I see a Boston advantage, I smell Jacobs.

      • Chuck says:

        I’s like Boston had an extended training camp. While other teams were playing/traveling, the Bruins had those days available to practice.

        Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

  25. mrhabby says:

    Game of the week for me..Leaf/Habs. Can the Habs avenge the beat down they took agains the leafs a few weeks ago.
    Habs are playing very well but were faced with a team we do not match up against. Iam expecting the laffs to play exactly the same way of the beatdown..lots of heavy forecheck against our defence and all over the ice actually. They will want to keep the habs on the boards away from the middle . Lets hope we can make quick passes , swarm the puck and try and keep price from being attacked. I hate the leafs but they are no push over this year and neither are the habs so it should be very interesting.

  26. habsfan0 says:

    Arguably, the most important game of this truncated season coming up tomorrow night. If the Habs lose to the Leafs in regulation,their record against Northeast teams will fall to 2-5-2. In this abbreviated campaign,having that type of a record against teams in your own division will ultimately cost the Habs dearly when it comes to qualifying for the postseason. Not to mention the fact that their record against the “Blue Dynasty” will fall to 0-3 this year,a totally unacceptable development.If they play against the Laffs the way they played against the Sens,they should be alright,as Scrivens is highly unlikely to duplicate Bishop’s heroics. As a winter “storm”of between 5-15 centimetres will have descended upon Toronto by gametime,keeping the suits in the platinum seats away,the ACC will have even a greater percentage of ex-Montrealers there to cheer on le bleu,blanc,rouge.It will be nice to hear chants of Ole Ole Ole RESOUNDING through the Air Canada Centre as the Canadiens totally dominate the Leafs,causing Joe Bowen to turn green.

  27. shiram says:

    Maybe Gio misses Gomez?

    • Kooch7800 says:

      hmmm didn’t play much better last year when he was around either.

      Gio is just in a scoring slump. The other aspects of his game are still good. He will start scoring soon….I hope

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • shiram says:

        He’s still shooting tons of pucks, but his shooting % is down to 5.9% from his carreer avg of 10.9%
        Let me do my best Berkshire impression… “when his shot % regresses to the mean he’ll get back to scoring, these things even out over a period of time”
        or something like that… corsi?

  28. HabinBurlington says:

    In unrelated sports news, Dennis Rodman is now an ambassador for the United States, there is no way this can go wrong…..


  29. Habshire says:

    For those brave enough to follow Chat Wednesday on cbc.ca about da surprising Montreal Canadiens…


  30. Sportfan says:

    If people are interested in Kaberle or Weber is interest lost because they never play now?


    • Phil C says:

      Who knows, but it can’t be helping their market value, although I would not play them just to improve their market value. I would have thought there would be more injuries by now, but spreading out the ice time and a strong backcheck have resulted in an easier time for the D.

  31. Sportfan says:

    Finally my newest blog piece is up

    I fear a new thread soon so sorry if you see this again later!

  32. New says:

    Roy is right. I also agree on Subban. Very frustrating player. All the skill to be a superstar and the only thing holding him back is PK. I sometimes wonder if he is playing the wrong position, then I glimpse what kind of quarterback he could be, almost Orr like but without Bobby’s vision of the ice and team mates. I think in the next year we’re going to see PK blossom. Can the Habs hire Chelios as a specialist coach to work with him?

  33. Dr.Rex says:

    The Habs played well and Ottawa for most of the night did not. THere are always going to be games like this where the opposing goalies absoulutely STEALS the game. At least this time we got a point rather then when Rask stole it 2-1 in regulation a couple weeks back.


  34. HabinBurlington says:

    So I have defended somewhat, the playing time of Armstrong up to this point of the season. I believe he is/was a player whom Therrien had experience with and would help sell the message in the room of what the coach wants his players to buy.

    He hasn’t done anything wrong for this team on that 4th line, but seems to me that perhaps maybe it could be time to experiment with either a Blunden or a Prust on that 4th line.

    Moen last night I thought started to play the body more than he has in recent games, White brings everything he has every shift. Armstrong I have no doubts, is trying, but his footspeed just isn’t quite there and doesn’t have exceptional puckhandling skills to compensate.

    I don’t say this because we lost, but I just think both Moen and White could be even more effective with someone else as there wingman.

    If indeed Bourque is ready to return, I would like to see Bourque back with Plex and Gio, while trying out Prust with White and Moen.

    I also don’t say trade Armstrong, as he provides depth for that line.

  35. Soolz says:

    Can some of you give it a rest for a while? All these bloggers and their non-stop complainaing of this player, that player, not good enough…yadayadayada. PLEASE – Our Habs 6-1-3 in the past ten games, their currently on top of the East regardless of games in hand. They are playing fantastic hockey, defensively sound and making great progress offensively. Yet all I read is he’s gotta go, lousy effort… Some days you don’t play your best game, some time you don’t get the bounces and you don’t win every game. So let’s relax a bit and enjoy a great year to date!

    And for the Gionta critics…and the Cole critics be reminded – This team stunk when Gio was out of the line up so I think he brings some leadership to this team. As for Cole – he pumped 36 goals last year and every one of you loved him. Give him a chance – he’s a strong player and will come around..

    It just makes me laugh… some of us Hab fans are endless complainers… When things are going great we still need to find something to gripe about…

    • GGtheHab says:

      I have been watching Gionta extra close to see if the bashing is warranted..he turn s the puck over, is usually in the wrong spot on both O and D..and c’mon at least take a feeble shot on a shoot out..he is definetly under acheiving given his salary and status. he may come around but is very in effective of late.

  36. frontenac1 says:

    @Timo. Agreed amigo! Whitey should have Run Bishop in the 1st period and taken a penalty. Just to get in his head and off his game. Mike could have rewarded him with a little PP time later in the game.

  37. HabinBurlington says:

    Who gets the can tied to them first, Fonzie in New York or Potsie in Philly?


  38. Loonie says:

    I don’t understand the problem here.

    Subban was bad, Emelin was bad, Pacioretty and a handful of other forwards were bad too.

    And on a night when so many important players were bad the team went on the road against the best home club in the league and completely dominated them from start to finish and were beat by a very hot goalie.

    The only thing that I didn’t like about the game was every forward other than Plekanec deciding to shoot high on a 6’7 goalie.

    Goalies that size cover more of the high part of the net than the low and it takes them longer to get into their butterfly.

    The lack of scoring is on the players and coaches last night. And Bishop too.

  39. Habsrule1 says:

    Captain on a first place team does not often get traded or demoted. Habs seem to be doing very well under his captaincy at the moment. You’d be hard-pressed to find a player in the NHL, let alone on the Habs, that doesn’t respect Brian Gionta.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • shiram says:

      James Reimer?
      Gio’s ok as captain, but the best way I can try to describe him is that he is flavorless, he’s always correct and proper in interviews, plays consistently and works hard.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Couldn’t the same ‘criticism’ (?) be levelled at Jean Béliveau’s captaincy?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • habsnyc says:

          Other that Beliveau being one of the top three Quebec born players of all time, winning a scoring title, 2 MVPs, playoff MVP, being a 10 post season All Star and ranking 7th all time in the 100 best hockey players list. and pretty much being the hero of every kid in the province for a couple decades.

          Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

          • Mattyleg says:

            I think you’re missing my point.
            I’m not questioning Béliveau’s greatness, but he was always very proper in interviews, played consistently and worked hard.
            Much like what makes Brian Gionta ‘flavourless’, according to Shiram.
            Point-totals etc. don’t come into this reading of captaincy.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • shiram says:

            Just to clarify, I got nothing against Gio, and his captaincy, and it was not meant as a criticism on Gio’s part.
            He was the safest choice for captain when he was selected, and maybe some would prefer a more honest and emotional captain.
            I think the C is a bit of an over-rated thing, leaders can be leaders without a letter on their jerseys.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Maybe what would appease some of the folks here is a rotating C, where whoever wins the Molson First Star as chosen by the fans should be Captain until someone else wins the award. Seems to me the logic behind this is about as sound as the logic they present for stripping him of it. 😉

  40. Timo says:

    When facing “a hot” goalie what do you do? You jam the net. How many Habs went to the net last night when it was becoming obvious that Bishop was “hot”? I only remember Gallager. All other shots where from out in the open with little obstruction. Others just didn’t hit the net, as usual. Others were square to the chest. Hot goalie is a lousy excuse.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Good point Timo. I think Jorges mentioned that while Bishop played well, they kinda made it easy for him. It’s not easy to block his view because of his size, but they certainly did not try. With a goalie like that, you need to score dirty goals and not enough payers went to the dirty areas to get them.
      That said, with a bit of luck, a couple of those hit posts would have gone in.
      Keep working but get someone in front of the net a lot more, and preferably someone over 5’8″.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • New says:

      Usually when the Habs are in a game and lose everyone says the opposing goalie was hot. (Was Price hot because his posts stopped shots?) It is just an excuse for losing when you dominated areas where goals aren’t scored from.

    • bwoar says:

      Diaz went point blank, Desharnais too. Prust was absolutely robbed on a nice play from 2 1/2 feet out.


    • boing007 says:

      That’s right, No Excuses. Should have won.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  41. bwoar says:

    Price was not to blame for the loss. Only an irrevocably stupid flatworm would blame the goalie, who made several excellent saves, weathered some bad penalties and generally bailed out a team that spends far too much time turning over the puck in its own zone to merit serious playoff consideration.

    Had Price given out rebounds on any of the 9-10 shots that came from prime scoring areas, we’d have lost 5-1 again and I would have nothing to say. But the goalie earned a tie against an opponent who played his best game of the career.

    There’s some absolutely brutal hockey being played in the Canadiens’ zone over the last 10 games, and we’re very lucky that the only error that cost us was Price’s own. More than a few of his teammates stopped coming to the front of the net to protect him in the third period, and I expect he got more apologies after the loss than he gave out.

    Side note, I sure am glad the Habs aren’t paying PK Subban 3.5 million dollars this year. He’s still trying to do too much, and although that can be a backhanded compliment, in this case it’s also me wondering if he’s trying too hard to be ‘primetime’ and prove his elite status. He simply isn’t a heady hockey player, and he doesn’t belong on a powerplay unless he’s just there to stand and shoot. Pat Quinn had it right all along, it seems.


    • ebk says:

      P.K was horrible last night but it happens to every NHL player from time to time.

      Funny thing though about P.K. and his belonging on a Power Play. Last night was the first PP goal the Habs have scored since he has been back without him on the ice. A span of 13 games

      • Phil C says:

        “Funny thing though about P.K. and his belonging on a Power Play. Last night was the first PP goal the Habs have scored since he has been back without him on the ice. A span of 13 games”

        The other part of that stat is since PK has been back, the PP is only producing at 13%, which is very bad and consistent with how it produced last year before the Habs picked up Kaberle. So you correlate PK with PP production, I correlate PK with PP futility. Arn’t stats fun?

        • ebk says:

          “The other part of that stat is since PK has been back, the PP is only producing at 13%”

          The other part of that stat is without PK on the ice the PP has been producing at a 0% clip since he’s been back.

          Arn’t Stats fun?

          • Phil C says:

            Since PK has been used on the PP, the team result has gotten significantly worse, that is a more important stat IMO.

      • bwoar says:

        The PP stat that’s more telling is that Markov finally got on the board after a long drought.

        It’s no coincidence that PK’s best moments with the man advantage are when he shoots, not when handling or moving the puck. He’s *useful* on a PP that allows him to shoot, that is his weapon. But he doesn’t look like a player progressing into a quarterbacking role. That’s not a knock on him at all, he just has me rethinking some earlier assumptions.


        • ebk says:

          I think he brings more to the PP than just shooting but I guess we will just have to disagree about it.

          They have 3 very good defenseman on the PP. Markov is still exceptional. Diaz has been outstanding on the PP. They are struggling a bit on the PP as of late but I think the D is more than holding up their end of the bargain

          • bwoar says:

            He’s been doing two things – shooting, and losing the puck trying to show off skills he may not truly have. I could be missing something, sure, so what is it? I can’t agree or disagree with you without at least knowing what you’re seeing on the ice.


    • ed says:

      hey bwoar, Subban gets 3.75 million next year!!

      what on earth are we to do??

      • bwoar says:

        The thought is that he can continue to grow as a player and refine his game, to keep it simpler when he ought to (and avoid the box when he absolutely must). He’s still a puckhog, plain and simple, and it’s still resulting in some bad turnovers as it always has. When he isn’t scoring, or making great plays, the lame ducks stand out.

        There’s every reason to think he will be worth his contract next year, and that he’s just having a mediocre sequence right now. Good coaching, smart practice, and help from this teammates are in order.


  42. city center says:

    @ those suggesting bias if anyone questions PKI’s game last night: Please stop with that red herring. PK was awful last night–unusual for him as he had been playing very well and within MT’s system that has been so successful this season.

    By your logic, there must be reverse bigotry against Cole since there have been about six thousand posts to date dumping on him after almost every game and questioning him as a person. While I am sometimes uneasy with the CBC and NBC commentary on PK, people on this site, however, actually want PK to succeed and recognize his excellent potential. There is no agenda if you point out he simply had a bad game or that he still has some learning to do for figuring out how to pick his spots better.

  43. HabFanSince72 says:

    Why do players get booed?

    There have always been villains – Billy Smith comes to mind. Then there are payers who are hated for one specific incident (remember Vic Hatfield?). A player might get it for complaining to the ref too often or for diving. On occasion players get booed just for being too good.

    Why is PK being booed? He’s not dirty and not (yet) a dominant player.

    In my opinion there’s been an organized whispering campaign against him. “He’s hated” becomes a meme, and lazy journalists repeat it – as evidenced by that Sports Illustrated article in which not a shred of evidence was put forward.

    Part of it is Sens, Bruins, Leafs fans booing a popular and talented player from the enemy. I get that. Maybe the fans even think it’s a good strategy but last night I thought it was ugly.

    PK is exuberant but he is by no means arrogant. It’s telling that people only criticized PK for the low 5 (even though there were two people doing it).

    When this exuberance leads old men in a predominantly white sport to tell a young black player that he needs to “know his place” you have to be excused for thinking of racism. When, as I mentioned before, you realize that the meme started with Canada’s bigot-in-chief, well maybe the idea has some validity.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I hate that I agree with you, but I think there is something to it.
      Players have been making big mistakes in hockey games for 100 years, but I have never seen it pointed out as often and the way it is with PK.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Kooch7800 says:

        It is really simple, he is a talented player who has confidence out the wazzoo and he loves the spotlight. When that happens you get attention…positive and negative.

        In a hockey market like Montreal any player with talent is under the microscope. Look at Price in his first few years with the media. All the analysts were talking about him leaving town cause the pressure in Montreal. Heck he is taking it today after allowing one goal last night and he currently sits with a 1.90 save percentage.

        The race card is an easy and lazy excuse.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          The Montreal market isn’t the issue. The pressure in Montreal isn’t the issue. I am not referring to Montreal fans.

          The question is why are Sens fans booing him?

    • ed says:

      that is very well said, ’72

    • Whatever says:

      Other black players in the league aren’t booed in Ottawa or other places. It’s a PK Subban thing. Although, you’re right about the old bigot-in-chief being a big part of it. Just don’t believe it’s a race thing, but rather a personality thing. That, and Subban plays for Montreal Canadiens.

    • Cal says:

      Hab fans boo Chara and company mercilessly when they play in the Bell Centre. Why should we take it badly when Sens fans boo PK?

      • ed says:

        maybe Habs fans boo Chara because he almost killed Max??

        Sens fans boo Subban because they don’t like Subban.

        They don’t like his flair, his energy, his style of play.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        When thinking of Chara, the first thing that comes to mind isn’t ‘oh, he’s a great defenseman”, it’s “he nearly killed Max and got away scotfree”.

        And company? That dirtbag Marchand is one of the easiest players to dislike.

  44. Saltwater Cowboy says:

    Everyone is intitled to thier own opinion yes. But some of these are not opinions they are STUPIDITY! Plain and simple.

  45. mark-ID says:

    Love the jab on Pj Stock from stubbs.

    On that note….does anyone know is he married to someone on RDS?? Why the hell is he even on anti-chambre? Not only is his french terrible…..he doesn’t have good input. Guys like Damphousse and Roy and a few others are fairly honest in their assessments…you don’t need a guy to bring down the cheerleaders of the show……which is what Stock does….bring them all down.

    “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      No idea why he’s on AC. Same for HNIC. He’s not particularly fluent in English either.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Token Anglo dude….but I think his French is fine. He tries and that’s what matters. I am perfectly bilingual and I have an enormous amount of respect for anyone who is willing to try to speak a 2nd language.
      As for his opinions, they are no better or worse than anyone else’s. That said, I agree with about none of them lol

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        No his opinions are worse than everyone else’s.

        On Hotstove he was discussing that Colorado player who is holding out. It was apparent that all he knew about him was what he gleaned from hockeydb.com just before the game. And yet there he was pontificating.

        • Strummer says:

          I have no respect for anyone who would plagiarize material.

          The internet makes it so easy now.

          “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

      • mark-ID says:

        Absolutely you have to respect a guy who tries there best to speak a second language…but I still maintain IMO that he isn’t fluent…thus not that good. I would have zero problem if the guy didn’t have a biased against the team to begin with….but he does. That is clear.

        “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

        • Habsrule1 says:

          Definitely not that good, but who cares? I care more that he doesn’t generally know hockey than how well he speaks French.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Cal says:

      Stock is on AC precisely because he’s an idiot who can’t speak french. All the other panelists laugh at him, not with him.

  46. Prust for PM says:

    The fact that DD had his helmet knocked off twice last night was evidence of the nose-for-the-net style of play that got him to the NHL…and allowed him to earn 5 SOG last night.

    It will be interesting to see if the abbreviated & compressed season takes more of a toll on smaller players or bigger players. We’ll know by May. Or June!

    In the interim, it is great to see the Habs winning puck battles with their speed, quickness, anticipation, and vision. It is enjoyable seeing the Canadiens’ coaching staff emphasize the club’s strengths. Speaking of strength(s), on to TO with its lineup of Cro-Magnons…A clash with Darwinian implications!

    Cannonading drive!!

    • mark-ID says:

      Desharnais has been playing awsome lately. Been one of our best players the last couple of weeks. Constantly creating chances/

      “I think I may have found a way for us to get Griffey and Bonds, and we really won’t have to give up much” -Costanza

    • Habshire says:

      Funny moment of the game…

      DD bending over on the faceoff with his face 2 feet from the ice and the other guy complaining to the linesman that when he bends over his face hits the back of DD’s head.

    • Phil C says:

      It may take a toll, but the fact that the coaching staff is rolling four lines spreads out the wear and tear on the players. Its one of things I really like about how this team is being managed.

  47. punkster says:

    Persistent calls to rip the “C” from Gionta and hand it to (fill in the blank) are curious.

    Do you really believe that such a humiliating action to a veteran player, career solid performer and Cup winner would in any way encourage the youngsters, light a fire under the vets and propel this team to…oh, I don’t know…a better position than FIRST PLACE in the conference?

    Ya, right…

    ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

    • Timo says:

      A better action is just to get rid off him. His is a useless relic of Gainey’s era and he should have stayed there… in that era. Gionta sucks. Whether he is good in the room or not is irrelevant. He sucks on the ice. They don’t score goals or win games in the room.

  48. Lafleurguy says:

    We should be thankful Markov is back and contributing immeasurably to this year’s offense (no yardstick needed for this measurement). Imagine what he could do for the young guns on the Oilers. This is strange to say, but Andrei’s best defence partner in the past was Mike Komisarek. Markov had something like 18 goals and 74 points to lead the team in scoring I believe, while paired with Komisarek. I think that was a year the charismatic but inconsistent Kovalev (our first Alex the Great) dropped considerably from his 85 point output the year before thus allowing a defenceman to lead the Habs in scoring for only the second time since Sheldon Souray did it one season.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  49. HAB - Have A Beer says:

    IMO Ottawa has a better all around team than Montreal. They didn’t show it last night and their Goalie like I said before with a bit of luck won it for them.

    IMO we have a better all around team than Toronto so lets see if Price or Budja can do the same.

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      With all the injuries you still think Ottawa is a a better team?

      Maybe healthy. I just don’t see it with them missing Anderson, Karlson, Spezza, Michalek

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I think the Habs are the better team and they showed it last night. With a full lineup for the sens, it get much closer, but even then the Habs have more depth, it seems.
      Sens are playing way over their heads and did the same last season, so McLean is turning this team into something it wasn’t.
      We’ll see if it lasts.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Senators have amazing depth, a reflection of Bryan Murray’s superb team building skills. Unbelievable bad luck due to injuries have caused them to rely on previous second and third liners and they’ve come through. Sergei Gonchar has recently come back from injury. Karlsson we all know about, but losing a skilled young guy like Jared Cowan to hip surgery was also a major setback. We know Spezza had back surgery. Can’t really picture the Ottawa defence corps at present, except that Mike Methot (sp?) is the type of bruiser we need.

      The Habs have the better team, even if a blown call didn’t recur to get them one more point in last night’s game.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

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