About last night …

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Shall we get the heresy out of the way right off the bat:
I’m glad the Leafs won.
Now before you descend on my humble suburban townhouse with torches and pitchforks, let me do some ‘splainin’.

I have family and friends in Toronto.

They have suffered – with varying degrees of bright hope and bitter disappointment – through a Stanley Cup drought that has lasted 45 years.

Here in Montreal in 2012, we are experiencing what Leaf fans have lived with since 1967.

It’s no fun.

And I wouldn’t wish this feeling of hopelessness on any other city.

The Leafs are three points out of eighth place in the Eastern Conference. They are undefeated under Randy Carlyle.

They have loyal fans, a couple thousand of whom made a lot of noise in the upper bowl of the Bell Centre Saturday night, watching their team bounce back from 1-0 to win 3-1.

Let the biggest city in this hockey-mad country enjoy some late April hockey.

I’d love to see Winnipeg get in as well. And Calgary.

The more Canadian clubs, the merrier – although spring merriment probably won’t stretch east of the Ontario-Quebec border.

In blowing yet another lead, the Canadiens racked up their 23rd loss on home ice. That’s two more than lowly Columbus.

The 29th-place Edmonton Oilers have four more home wins than the proudest franchise in hockey.

The Canadiens are going nowhere this season. Everybody – fans, players and management – knows this.

So Randy Cunneyworth shuffles players in and out of the lineup and from line to line – hoping not to inflict any more black marks on a CV he’ll be e-mailing around this summer.

After facing 42 shots – matching the season-high total that Pittsburgh fired at him on Nov. 26 – Carey Price said he was “over being frustrated.”

“I’m just going to do my job,” Price added, “and try to do it to the best of my ability.”

The best of Price’s ability is pretty good. But there’s only so much a goaltender can do to bail out a one-line hockey team.

Max Pacioretty had six shots on goal against Toronto. Erik Cole had four (and scored the Canadiens’ only goal). P.K. Subban had four.

Three players had 14 of the Canadiens’ 22 shots.

With the exception of Joey Crabb, every skater in the Toronto lineup had at least one shot on goal. And Crabb had three hits.

Eight Canadiens had zero shots.

We’ll forgive David Desharnais his goose egg because he was making plays for his linemates.

Blake Geoffrion had no shots. Neither did Andreas Engqvist, who was bounced back to Hamilton after the game.

Tomas Plekanec had one SoG. And I’ll cut him the slack I cut DD, because the Canadien who, earlier in his career, centred Alex Kovalev and Andrei Kostitsyn  played with Ryan White and Geoffrion. But you can’t blame his inept linemates for Plekanec’s struggles in the faceoff circle: one win, 13 lossses.

Lars Eller went 9-6 on draws, but his latest trio included raw Louis Leblanc and the phlegmatic Rene Bourque.

This was a punchless lineup that, with the exception of the DD line and a couple decent plays by Lars Eller, exerted absolutely no sustained pressure in the Toronto end.

You have to think that Brian Gionta, Travis Moen, Mathieu Darche … heck, even Scott Gomez … might have helped.

But Toronto needed a win. And after being outshot 6-3 through the early minutes of the game, the Leafs had a 39-16 advantage.

In the Saturday morning press conference that featured a tour de force performance by Brian Burke, Carlyle talked about the Leafs utilizing their speed. They did lot of zipping around the Canadiens’ zone, as the team with one functioning forward line also featured only one effective defence pairing: Subban and Josh Gorges.

Toronto’s speed seemed to create problems for Alexei Emelin, who managed a measly two hits (a total matched by his partner, Yannick Weber).

And looking ahead to next season, I think we can all agree that when the opening night starters are announced, the D pair will not be Tomas Kaberle and Chris Campoli.

October can’t come soon enough.

Pierre Ladouceur’s game report card

962 Comments

  1. Mattyleg says:

    I don’t get it…
    Our fighting-guy fought their fighting-guy and we didn’t win.
    I thought that was the whole point of that exercise.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • powdered toastmann says:

      Okay, I’ll bite…As opposed to their fighting-guy beating up our “pretend fighting -guy” resulting in every one of their players taking liberties with our players during the rest of the game (without a care in the world).

      • ProHabs says:

        You got that right Powdered Toastman.

      • Bill says:

        Among hockey cliches that should immediately be banned, “taking liberties” is close to the top. It sounds like something naughty cavaliers did with ladies of the court.

        Anyway, I think this claim needs to be proved. I have never noticed that having one goon fight another made a dirty team less dirty.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Mattyleg says:

        So… lemme see if I get this right:
        Mike Brown fights… let’s say Ryan White and “wins” (maybe lands a few more punches…?) so the Leafs skate around pummeling us into the boards and we have to take it because the Alpha Combat has relegated us to an inferior position.
        Is that it?

        Because it seems, in your description, that the Leafs avoid checking us now because they’re afriad that Staubitz will fight them. Or fight Brown.
        That it?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      Dude, don’t you know anything.. in order to win you fight when you are losing.

      x=number of goals down
      y=number of fights required to comeback.

      here is the equation:
      Y = X -1

      Example, down by 5 goals, X = 5
      Y = 5-1
      Y = 4

      In this example you need 4 fights to comeback from a 5 goal deficit.

      • powdered toastmann says:

        I ain’t no math major…but it’s all about retaining some team pride /team morale…win or lose.

        Nothing like losing a game and being humiliated at the same time.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      You’re right, you don’t get it.

      The point of a tough guy is to protect your skill guys. While it’s not as important as overall team toughness, it’s important.

      See or rent “GOON”. Be touched by the “fist of God.”

      • powdered toastmann says:

        It’s been stated before by players, the importance of knowing someone has their back.

      • Mattyleg says:

        As I said above, you’re saying that the fear of Staubitz fighting them stopped Leafs players from hitting our players?
        We had 31 hits, they had 29.
        So Staubitz represents a difference of 2 hits.
        Or did he ‘win’ the fight by two punches?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Bill says:

      Yeah, but … THEIR fighting-guy fought our fighting guy and THEY won … get it?

      It’s all about interpretation.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • powdered toastmann says:

        So? Obviously losing and being humiliated (which is sending a message for future opposition) is no worse than losing. (in your world)

        • Mattyleg says:

          I think the only people that are ‘humiliated’ by a player ‘losing’ a fight (who’s responsible for counting the punches landed, btw?) are fans who invest too much of their masculine identity into the team.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • HardHabits says:

            That’s only because there are those here that have a masculine identity.

            I admire that you are in touch with your feminine side though.

          • punkster says:

            So HH, you equate someone with an aversion to hockey fights as being somewhat less masculine or heaven forbid more feminine?

            Making up for something with that thinking, are we?

            ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • ProHabs says:

        At least Brown wasn’t running around trying to hurt our skilled players last night such as Subban. That alone makes Staubitz place in the lineup worth it.

        • Mattyleg says:

          He didn’t change his game in any way shape or form.
          You’re trying to tell me that Brown stopped playing hard because he was cowed by the mighty Staubitz?
          Mmm hmm… (strokes chin, looks quizzically over glasses at patient on couch)

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

  2. habstrinifan says:

    It probably is gonna look like another senseless move and give everyone another chuckle at our expense. But hear me out!

    I think that RC is plain going through the motions. His press conferences lately and definitely his alertness and involvement behind the bench lately seem to suggest that he cant wait for the end of the season.

    So my idea is:
    Molson and BG(there is no one else right now) call a player’s meeting after talking to RC/RL.

    PG is immediately and public relieved of duties.
    BG assumes on an absolutely temporary basis the ‘GM’.
    RC AND RL are relieved.
    Carbonneau becomes on a purely temporary basis the coach.

    Just to add some something. Surely they cant play the rest of the games in this same flatlining atmosphere.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Well, Intra, if I may call you that, interesting post on a depressing morning, but…

      a) replacing PG temporarily is pointless as trades are over and the draft isn’t until June… and more importantly why do you want the guy who made the mess to fix it?

      b) Carbo to coach again. You know what? I agree with you except I would sign him to coach next year. I think he would be older and wiser and would “get it”. Burkie made a decent point about hiring Carlyle with a month left in the season, that even if Leafs didn’t make the playoffs that time would be invaluable in saving time next fall for the coach to learn the team and figure out what he wanted to do.

      Someone posted about bringing Carbo back a few days ago and at first I scratched my head, but on review, I like it.

      Now of course if Molsons change the GM for someone with more Hops, he will want his own coach, and I have no idea who the GM is going to be.

      The real point is that all of this should have been done last summer, the putsch, purge, whatever you want to call it.

      We’ve wasted a year for nothing, so we had better get a damn good draft pick and not waste it.

      • habstrinifan says:

        “should have been done last summer’… We’ve wasted a year for nothing” Absolutely true.

        And this is why doing the same thing, wasting the rest of the season status-quo, is senseless and unnecessarily demoralising to fans and yes to the players.

  3. novahab says:

    If Molson is getting rid of PG then get it done. Don’t let him near the draft and screw it up then replace him. That if we get to draft.

  4. novahab says:

    The fans that pay those prices need to ask for refunds for the last of the home games. Molson’s is acting like this team is the Leafs. Doesn’t matter if they lose the fans will pay and come. Back in the good old days fans stayed away if you didn’t put a team on the ice. The fans going to the Bell Centre are at fault to for supporting this garbage.

  5. Strummer says:

    Interesting tidbit in this morning’s Toronto Sun:

    ” Here’s a name to watch for in Montreal: Chicago assistant GM Marc Bergevin. Before being named to the post last year, he was most recently the Blackhawks’ director of player personnel, is a former NHL player and has the personality to handle the pressure that goes with being GM of the Habs.”

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    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  6. ProHabs says:

    At the draft, the Habs are going to trade their first round pick to the Islanders for John Tavares. Tavares wants out of the Island and they won’t be able to afford him soon anyway.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Not gonna happen!

      • ProHabs says:

        It should. We get our big enough first line center, we don’t have to go through the growing pains of watching him develop (because we know the Habs media and fans are not the most patient) and Tavares is still young so we get many years of watching him play. He will provide the offence we need. If the Habs need to throw in Pleks and the 1st then do it.

        The Islanders will get a good young player with the number 2 overall who will cost them nothing for the next 3-5 years. Tavares is not happy on the Island and wants out.

        THis moves makes total sense. If we had a GM like Paul Holmgren who is a good GM and not afraid to make some big moves, this would get done.

  7. habs001 says:

    There is every indication that some very humiliating loses coming up on this road trip…plecks has had a bad year but i believe he will rebound next year…his key faceoff win reliability has been bad for the last 3 years..he seems to win draws in the neutral zone but gets beat many times badly in his zone or the opposition zone…at this stage of his career he probably will not get better at faceoffs..

  8. HabFanSince72 says:

    Tanking is harder than we thought.

    Sure losing on the ice is easy; but tanking is emotionally taxing. I have greater appreciation for what the Oilers are doing. It must take tremendous dedication, will-power, and self-esteem.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  9. novahab says:

    I really do hope I am wrong, but I think us fans are in for a surpise at the draft. First it is lottery, and even if we finsh in the top two spots we’ll be picking 5th. I do believe this league is as fixed as a mob’s poker game. That’s if we pick at all in the first round. Wait for it, I belive Gary Bettman and his hinchmen will come up with the Habs tanked for the draft. The team will be penalize their first round pick and maybe their second too.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      As long as Edmonton and Columbus are in this league, no one can be accused of tanking worse than them.

      • novahab says:

        Yes but remember we hurt poor little Gary the crook feeling over Patch’s muggging. Gary can’t come to Montreal and he wants revenge. Wow just look at some of the fixed calls against this team since that happen. I mean come on the other night Patchs was hooked twice in the dieing second with a open net and no call. Sorry their are no amount of exuses that can cover up that.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      We have Gomez. Enough said.

    • athanor says:

      Assuming there is no conspiracy, the worst the Habs will draft is one position lower than their place in the final standing.

      The 14 non-playoff clubs go into a weighted draw — those who finish worst have more chances of being picked — and one ball is chosen. The team represented by that may move up no more than 4 places in the draw.

      The corollary to that is that the four teams it passes drop one place. And that is it.

      If the 7th worst team wins the draw, it moves up to 3rd pick, knocking the Habs down to 4th.
      The full explanation can be seen here

    • Mark C says:

      You have no idea how the lottery works. A team can only move down one spot.

  10. habs001 says:

    The odds are habs will not be able to sign any impact fa forwards as there are so few of them this year…we can dream of Markov producing and some of our players getting better next year but the odds are the habs scoring will remain not much better next year…the best chance for this team next year is to improve the d and grind out more 2-1 and 3-2 wins …

  11. athanor says:

    About this blown-lead thing.
    I would suggest that being up 1-0 in the first period and, through the ebb and flow of the game, losing that lead in the second does not really constitute a blown lead.
    Yes, they were leading early, and, yes, they lost it. But, to me, a blown lead happens when a team is up by at least two goals going into the third and loses that lead, or even one goal with a minute or so left. (If they were up by several in the first and ended the period tied, that would be as well)
    “Blown lead” sounds to me, however, like a great melt-down that led to the other team’s winning when it shouldn’t have.
    It sounds good, but doesn’t really transmit an idea of what happened in the game.

    • New says:

      Yeah I agree. When you’re outshot and outplayed it isn’t really a blown lead, more like failed to hang on for 50 minutes. A blown lead is what they tried to do the other night against Minny. Lose a three goal lead in four minutes. The Canadiens aren’t really good at winning under any circumstances.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      If you look at the overall statistics with a big enough sample size, getting the first goal in a hockey game gives you quite a large statistical chance to win the game. I don’t know the number off the top of my head but I remember being impressed by it.

      Therefore if you do manage to get the first goal and then blow it (and I mean over a statistically significant number of games) then your team has a problem — which most of us already knew.

  12. HankHardball says:

    Sometimes I suspect some of the Habs players are like fans with bags over their heads.

    They’re embarassed to admit they’re part of it. And that’s why some are out with injuries so long.

    And maybe it’s partly the coaching staff using injuries as an excuse not to dress certain players.

    But I have no doubt, some of the guys who are outta here, are glad to be outta here.

    What has happened to this franchise?

    • rjcp says:

      Wish last night was the last game of the season, Leafs got the 2 points that allowed them to secure 8th and make the playoffs and this ridiculous season was over, so sick of this team and who they are.

  13. pierre lapuck says:

    Weber gets a better than passing grade? What am I missing? This guy is weak defensively, has no physical presence, is slow to react and his one rfdeeming quality, his shot, is not enough in my mind to give him ice. He should among the not-a-Hab next year.

    • New says:

      Weber is too good for the AHL. Not yet good enough for the NHL. His playmaking and shot are over rated in games but I suspect he has a laser in practice. The NHL game is probably just a bit fast for him.

  14. Adidess says:

    Can anybody explain why we keep playing Price every game with a bunch AHLers in front of him in a lost season? What is there to lose by playing Budaj?

    I suppose your #1 goaltender wants to play in a Saturday night showcase against the Leafs, but Price was in the net against Minny on Thursday and the game before that.
    Plekanec: why is he centering wingers like Geoffrion and White, when it’s not Darche and some other fourth liner? I feel for the guy.
    I swear I never thought I’d find JM replacement so underwhelming and frustrating.

  15. ont fan says:

    So, can you win the cup with a better than average goalie, excellent defense and average forwards, like the Preds. With the draft coming up, we are in the top 5 and we can get a very good defenceman or a coin flip of a centerman. With what we have drafted already on defense, who do we pick?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I like Galchenyuk, to me highest combination of skill and size. Also to all those who have bias against Russians, this kid was born and raised in the States.

    • New says:

      I am not impressed with any of the top picks. I am happy the team has managed to hold onto a first, two seconds (probably 5 picks in the first 100). Next year they have a first and three seconds.

      I am hoping they have realized that higher draft picks often result in better players. Sometimes it doesn’t, but if you don’t have the picks you never get a chance to find out.

  16. frankcasting says:

    It seems like a long way back for Habs, but unlike some other teams, there is a good core of players at the right places. It simply needs to purge itself of all dead-weight guys (you know who they are) and do what the Panthers did, pick up some gritty free agents with something to prove. There is plenty in the youth pipeline as well.

    Loving the Habs since 1965

  17. New says:

    Nothing wrong with these guys. They just can’t score. (20th in shots per game taken and 27th in blowing leads after the second)

    You have to score to win. For a mainly rookie defence with vets like Kaberle and Campoli playing minutes and situations they were never able to do – well these guys are doing great.

    Everybody loves Desharnais, Cole, and MaxPac because they drive to the net while DD sets the play. They score because of that. Eller plays the same way. The rest are just gripping the sticks too tight, looking for the big shot. Tips, chips, flips, and this team is right up there.

  18. Mad Habber says:

    Am I the only one that found Cherry’s rant entertaining but ridiculous. If Burke thinks Americans are better than players for Ontario, than why should he put Ontario players on the team.

    Secondly, you can’t just show all the guys from Ontario and say they’d make a better team because a lot of them are valuable players elsewhere. Ottawa isn’t going to give them Jason Spezza, neither is Tampa going to give them Stamkos or anybody like that.

    The only place Cherry really has a real complaint is with Kadri, and how he has been treated.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I didn’t find the premise of his point ridiculous, the problem is Cherry does a terrible job of articulating his point. No NHL team should pick a player simply because of his birthplace. However, if all things are equal and you have a choice between a few players and one of them is from your backyard, you take that player. Even though I am not from Quebec, I love to see homegrown players from Quebec playing for the Habs. It is part of how i identify with the Habs.

      Toronto really has less of an excuse in this matter than Montreal, given the greater number of potential NHL’ers coming out of Ontario compared to Quebec.

      But Cherry being Cherry gets all wound up and just starts ranting thus losing all crediblity in his argument.

      This past off season Winnipeg made a small trade and picked up Eric Fehr, to many the acquisition looked foolish given he was injured, and wouldn’t be available until midway through the season. However he is now playing, and he is a “homegrown” kid from the town of Winkler not far from Winnipeg. It was a small move, but it is good for the team and fans that they can identify with a local kid done good.

      I think it serves any team well, to try and have some local representation. Never at the sacrifice of being a better team, however.

  19. HabinBurlington says:

    I’m guessing that the server on this site has somehow locked the poll question and it cannot be changed?

  20. Psycho29 says:

    Funny how Cherry gets away with complaining about the lack of Ontario born players on the Leafs (Or “Ontario’s Team” as he called them…sorry Ottawa)….Then he shows all the NHL goals scored by Ontario born players last night with a graphic of what town they’re from.
    Can you imagine the uproar if one of the RDS guys did the same thing for Quebec born players on L’Antichambre ?

  21. Dulljerk says:

    Fact: Habs are a terrible hockey team.
    Fact: Carey Price is not a dominant goaltender.
    Fact: There is no team chemistry.
    Fact: They are not a “couple” of players away from being a good team.
    Fact: Major re-build required. Starting now.

    “Is the little dog going to yap, or is he going to bite?”

    • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

      I think Price is dominant, or dominant enough. But when you have 5 forwards who can score and three defensemen who can defend, spinkled though a line up of 18 guys having a plywood sheet with a hole the same size as the puck probably isn’t gonna help.

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      Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

      • The Cat says:

        Like I said earlier, Habs got to stop blaming the ‘supporting cast’ some of them have gone elsewhere and have become somewhat successful, habs got to rethink the way they choose their core (Stop with the grotesque favouritism for one). I mean Habs have a first line that is totally by accident, DD was never seriously considered for anything in Montreal.

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

        • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

          I think DD, Pleks and Eller could carry the load at center. Wingers who can play to those centers strengths makes more sense, and should be easier to source, than the mythical “big center who scores at will and scares the crap out of everybody”.

          How many of those mythical centers exist? Does the cup winner have one every year? Barking up the wrong tree if we think Getzlaf is gonna bring us a cup next June.

          But as a fan base we’ve pretty much got delusion nailed down.

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          Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

          • habstrinifan says:

            “I think DD, Pleks and Eller could carry the load at center.” Unequivocal NO! Please dont let our centre position remain as is for 2012-2013.

          • The Cat says:

            DD and Pleks as a 1-2 punch aint cutting it, its about having a good mix. And no its not on the wingers, centremen may be hard to find but you aint going to find a MaxPac and a Cole for every line. Habs centremen all seem cut from the same mould.

            [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

          • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

            It’s not our winger’s fault, but they are the problem. Is 4 wingers who can score 50-60 points that much to ask? Would 4 wingers who score 50-60 points be enough to make this team a contender?

            I honestly feel all things equal we’ve seen enough of those three centers to know that they have enough for us at center. We need the wingers to compliment them. I don’t think as much as most of Gionta, but if he would work with Eller then we’d be one scoring winger away.

            I loathe proposing lineups, but:
            DD, Paciorrety, Cole
            Eller, Gionta, FA 20-30 goal guy who we over pay
            Pleks, Leblanc, Bourque
            White, Moen, Darche (or Darche 2.0)

            Would be my opening night forward lines in 2012-13.
            Affordable, useful, forward lineup. Would leave some coin for Price, PK and a big D FA. Strikes me, on paper, that it would be fairly balanced and a definite upgrade on the mess we’ve had this year. fly in the ointment is that for the most part our FA signings are a bust when they get here.

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            Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I can think of one thing that is exactly as advertised…


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • rjcp says:

      Can’t wait for this miserable season to end and see Cunneyworth, his useless assistants, and a lot of the soft, lazy (Eller? Bourque?) gone. Seriously, we come out hustling and full of energy for the first 14 minutes and then what? See how Carlyle changed the tempo of his team after that? See how animated and excited he was? We are just a bunch of losers with fragile confidence and no “FU” attitude against other teams. So sick of this same old story this season – lost leads, few SOG, no push back……..agree with Boone though, would love to see the Leafs make it, at least they are deserving.

    • athanor says:

      Calling your opinions facts doesn’t make them so.

      • Dulljerk says:

        Yes, you’re right. Dominant goaltenders are quite often ranked in the high teens in stats. What was I thinking.

        “Is the little dog going to yap, or is he going to bite?”

  22. Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

    Anybody else laugh out loud when TO scored their second goal (I think) and HNIC cut to a close up of Kaberle, looking very confused floating around the ice, after the goal?

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    Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

  23. The Cat says:

    I dont get the Toronto hate from you people, I can see it if youre 55 and over. But other than that this rivalry is only a contrived one cause CBC keeps saying it is a rivalry. Montreal-Boston now thats a rivalry! Hating the leafs is like hating on a bum, why hate someone that has nothing.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

      “Foreverivals” Hahahahahahaha! I know what you mean. Media fostered hate.
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      Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

    • punkster says:

      I agree that to Montreal fans Boston is the top rival. I learned why after I moved here and became a Habs fan and I totally agree.

      However, I was born and raised in Ontario and grew up a Leaf fan. Montreal was the number one rival back then and to many of my family and friends, Leaf fans to the core, Montreal is still THE rival. No question, point finale.

      It’s all in your perspective.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • Benoitr says:

      I live down in leaf nation and the rivalry is real for us Habs fans down here. But I agree the real rivalry is Boston. (spit)

    • smiler2729 says:

      It’s not the rivalry, it’s the incessant bragging from Leaf fans about nuthin’ and the constant insults at Habs fans (“I hope you separate!”)… yeah, I’ve heard ‘em all.

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      Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

  24. JohnBellyful says:

    The collapse of the Montreal Canadiens has their fans free-falling toward rampant despair. To head off an off-season of gloom among even their most fervent fans, the Canadiens have asked team physician Dr. Rhéal Quaque to ease their pain and prepare them for a better future. He’s prescribed the following bromides (to be taken at mealtimes; grain of salt already included):

    Every cloud has a silver lining
    It’s always darkest before the dawn
    Turn your frown upside-down
    Lighten up
    Count your blessings

  25. habstrinifan says:

    Never mind Boone. where is PG? HE’s got some ‘splainin’ to do!

  26. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …hmmm, Ya know ? …I think I (like Y’all too :) ) was just suckered by Boone

    …I can see Boone this morning, naked with His finger-dog puppet on one hand, and the other typing his keyboard in that dank basement of His, wondering WHAT ??? raw-meat can I throw the piranhas this mornin’ to maximise decreasing site hits now the season is sliding into the cess-pit

    … ‘Yah, I got it !!! …I’ll tell ‘em I’m rootin’ for the Leafs !’

    …well, go ahead Boone …it may have worked this morning, …but You My Man have doomed Yourself to eternal skankhood

    _________________________________________________________
    HIS’ Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song: Morrissey ‘There is a light that never goes out’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjObvIQtsLk&feature=related

    …the Montreal Canadiens organization and Our Fans, as a whole need to feel this current cold frigid splash of reality, …this process will, hopefully, give Us a long needed sense of humility, not humiliation …and help to revive and renew Our tattered culture of high hockey ideals, and ultimate success in the near future
    …ride the wave, is all We can do as Fans: …Ownership must make the right choices, persevere, and act not talk

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I still haven’t figured out where you stand on your views as it relates to Boone and his Leaf Comments :) (sarcastic font unavailable, smiley will have to work)

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …..haha, sorry Gerald, THE most fun as a Habs Fan I have is condescending Toronto …if I let that go ? …then My Fandom will certainly be on a slippery slope indeed :)

        _________________________________________________________
        HIS’ Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song: Morrissey ‘There is a light that never goes out’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjObvIQtsLk&feature=related

        …the Montreal Canadiens organization and Our Fans, as a whole need to feel this current cold frigid splash of reality, …this process will, hopefully, give Us a long needed sense of humility, not humiliation …and help to revive and renew Our tattered culture of high hockey ideals, and ultimate success in the near future
        …ride the wave, is all We can do as Fans: …Ownership must make the right choices, persevere, and act not talk

        Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
        http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • HabFab says:

      Please!!!
      Images of a naked Boone are tabooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  27. HabinBurlington says:

    Last night’s game exposed to me the current lack of organizational depth we need to compete night in and night out in the NHL. We were missing Markov, Diaz, Gionta, Moen, Gomez and Palushaj (While he is no budding NHL star, he is our most NHL ready callup from the AHL)

    So I went to my favourite website http://www.hockeydb.com and looked at our drafting.
    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00006929.html
    If one looks at this page it is glaringly obvious that since our draft class of 2007 we have very little to no talent ready to make the next step up to the NHL. Specifically one looks at the 2008 draft class and what stands out is the missing first round draft pick who should be now entering his NHL ready years and begin contributing to the Habs success. We can hope that Kristo may be getting close, but there hasn’t been a lot to suggest he is close to making an impact.

    Hopefully with a new mgmt. team this summer, combined with a high pick in this years draft we can once again begin cultivating more NHL players. There is some hope on the way in Beaulieu, Tinordi, Gallagher and there are others like Ellis, Pateryn, Bennett who may also begin their AHL careers soon, thus providing more depth.

    We did gain some enjoyable playoff runs during those lean draft years, but I suspect next year may be difficult as well. We should be better than this year, but most importantly it is imperative that mgmt not panic and throw any more draft picks away for short term fixes.

    Next year I believe we will see a healthy Markov contribute, this eliminates the need for Kaberle. Diaz and Emelin will be better, thus eliminating Campoli and unfortunately, I don’t see Weber developing into an NHL defenceman that helps our squad. We simply have enough puck moving dmen and need some more larger bodies on Defence. This summer the team will have to mine some UFA dmen who will be average, but NHL players and provide some physical presence for the team.

    At forward, Leblanc will be able to properly train this offseason on strength and conditioning, something he couldn’t do so well last year due to his shoulder rehab, the same goes for Eller.

    It will be imperative that veterans like Plex, Gionta, Cole and Moen. remain healthy as our team does not have the depth to cover their loss due to injury.

    Sorry for long story, but just something that struck me watching the game last night.

    • smiler2729 says:

      How can we see if Palushaj or Leblanc or Geoffrion can stick if they only play 3 minutes a game on 4th lines?

      __________________________________
      Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

      • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

        From the little I’ve seen of them, I think 2/3rds of that group will be 25-50 game NHLers.

        ______________________________________________________
        Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Our new GM must find a new Coach.

        • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

          And draft talented wingers to play with our centers, not more centers to play with our talentless wingers.

          ______________________________________________________
          Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Those three have a very long way to go to be NHLers smiler2729. They were just fill ins for injuries.

    • HabFab says:

      Too many 2nd and 3rd round picks traded away IMO.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Gerald! We had the most depth of any team just 5 or 6 years ago. We gave a ton of it away trying to load up for our 100 year anniversary, as per Gillette’s instructions. Look who got two goals against us last night for instance.

      We have to start all over again from the draft, but first we have to put top well connected management and coaching in place.

      If we limit ourselves to the province of Quebec, selections are slimmer for us getting to the top again.

      We will have to see what Molson does at the end of this wonderful season.!!

      • Cal says:

        Jodoin will be the next head coach. The 2 Randys will be looking for work.
        PG will still be there although most think he will get nuked.
        This way, we will have to suffer through his “Mister Mister” interviews.

        • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

          Forgot Clem Jodoin. Has he head coached in the LNH? Thought he did a good job with the teams I used to watch of his in Halifax, and seems like a good and fair individual.

          ______________________________________________________
          Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

        • Ian Cobb says:

          I don’t know Jodoin Cal.

        • boing007 says:

          Jodoin should have been the interim coach replacement for JM, not RC.

          Richard R

  28. Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

    I know that at this point in the season the games shouldn’t get to me, but after the Grabovsky goal I now need a new bell expessvu remote.

    ______________________________________________________
    Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

    • smiler2729 says:

      He’s a twerp but who’d you rather still have him or the ‘Tits brothers?

      Grabby, no contest… he’s wearing an ‘A’ no less.

      __________________________________
      Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

      • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

        Adds to anger really. I have to admit that I liked how his line seemed to take ice time away from Kessel’s. Can’t wait for the fireworks to come from the diminished ice time of Burkie’s Golden Child.

        ______________________________________________________
        Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        It will interesting to see if Toronto can resign Grabo this summer.

  29. Ian Cobb says:

    Here is a great story about a man making a difference around the world for concussion and spinal cord injury.
    He put on a presentation at our 2011 HIO Fan Summit in Montreal.
    (Kerry Goulet,)

    Sorry the link would not highlight for me, It is in The Hockey News.

  30. smiler2729 says:

    Rhetorical question but:

    How do all these Laff fans get such great Bell Center seats? And why do we let ‘em?? Who sells ‘em to Laff fans???

    The shame!

    __________________________________
    Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

  31. mjames says:

    I really do not see why everyone is getting in an uproar over Boone’s comments. The only complaint I have is that he did not identify a scapegoat on which to pin our latest loss as AK46 is gone. – Hint: Try PG.

    I think we have to face facts, Toronto is a better team. We are what our record says we are, which is a last place team. Injuries have nothing to do with it. They are an an excuse offered by management. Don’t cite Markov as we have not had him for two years. The reason why we are a joke of the league is because PG and management have no discernible plan . They trade people away without getting anything of value in return. If you look at last night’s games AK46 was second star with a goal and an assist. Grabs was first star with two goals. PG and his erstwhile adviser, Gainey, traded SK74, Grabs and AK46 for literally nothing. This year this trio has around 50 goals combined. We could sure use them as our second line but no they are all gone. Yes I know the self proclaimed true Habs fans will argue that these guys did not deserve to wear the CH. Well I think they would look fine with us and they do not seem to be having problems with other teams. This is another clear example of PG’s/ Gainey’s mismanagement. They have no clear plan and it is this lack of a plan combined with a real inability to evaluate talent that has us in this position.

    I did not mind the Leafs win last night. I suppose it was a good night for all concerned parties – well maybe all except for one . The Leafs need the points while we don’t want or need points at this stage. Molson was clearly happy because he had another full arena. The fans – well who cares about the fans.
    I am hoping a few more brutal losses and Molson will have to dispatch PG or PG will resign.

    I wish someone would ask what PG meant when he said on trading day that he achieved his objectives. I have watched this kid Geoffrion for the last three games and he is brutal. Lets be honest he is only here because of his name. Talent has nothing to do with it. It is just another stupid move by PG to attempt to placate the fans with a name from the past. Do you really think Geoffrion in place of AK46 is an upgrade? If people think players like Geoffrion are our future well we may as start calling ourselves Maple Leafs East. I am really beginning to think a Quebec franchise might help the Habs just as another franchise close to Toronto might help the Leafs.

    I don’t live in Quebec but I do know that the Habs are more than team. They are a part of the fabric which makes Montreal and Quebec unique. For PG, Molson, and Gainey to methodically destroy this institution is really discouraging.

    Just watch – the next guy to sent away for nothing will be Pleks. It just annoys me to no end to see PG destroy this team. What is worse is that Molson is allowing it.

    mjames

  32. habstrinifan says:

    Good Morning! How’s all my HIO friends doing? Who the F…F am I kidding! This sucks.. so….

  33. Marc10 says:

    Speaking of the Laffs, did anybody catch the Burke-Maclean presser?

    Can you imagine Gauthier giving one interview like that?

    I think Burke’s a buffoon who was handed a Cup by Chris Pronger’s wife, but that presser was a masterclass. Holy crap! He answered questions, didn’t get overly offended, and was fairly open about the rational behind decisions.

    Even more hilarious was the Cherry follow up where Grapes went to town on Burkey. That was beautiful. I hate those TO naval gazing wankers, but just this once I had to watch it. Vintage. Hell, I even agreed with the Don about the Laffs being idiots for shunning local talent (much like my Habs sadly…)

    • The Cat says:

      Yeah Id like to see PG get asked Qs half as difficult as that.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …Coach’s Corner and Don’s rant was great, and absolutely right …the sad thing is if Don was a Franco ranting on the Montreal Canadiens’ lack of homeboys, there would be the ROC callin’ Us racists

      …plus, kickin’ Weeds butts ain’t the same when those butts are Yanks and Belorusskies :)
      _________________________________________________________
      HIS’ Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song: Morrissey ‘There is a light that never goes out’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjObvIQtsLk&feature=related

      …the Montreal Canadiens organization and Our Fans, as a whole need to feel this current cold frigid splash of reality, …this process will, hopefully, give Us a long needed sense of humility, not humiliation …and help to revive and renew Our tattered culture of high hockey ideals, and ultimate success in the near future
      …ride the wave, is all We can do as Fans: …Ownership must make the right choices, persevere, and act not talk

      Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
      http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  34. Barts says:

    Enqvist to Hamilton, and Geoffrion should go right along with him. Another great trade by the Ghost. At least Louis Leblanc has the wheels to play at this level…Blake, sadly does not.

    • WindsorHab-10 says:

      Give him a break. Second game with this lifeless team & he sucks? Come on now.

    • Marc10 says:

      He wasn’t great today. He needs to start forechecking.

    • The Cat says:

      Another thing that doesnt seem right. The AHLers are being brought up to show their stuff, were told its like a training camp for them, but theyre showing off to who exactly? RC wont be coach, will PG be there? A new coach is bound to have different choices.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I agree with finger pointing at the GM and his cohort but its not fair in my opinion to blame most players, in particular on whose only played two games. I think the blame should solely be put on PG and BG. Lets keep the focus on these two. They created this mess. Let them be held accountable for it.

  35. mrhabby says:

    last nights game was typical and predictable…but so what.most fans , media know whats wrong so why keep on getting frustrated so plan for the future and look forward to it.

    1. lots of people have stated the habs should trade there 1st round pic for Jonathan Huberdeau…this would satisfy the needs of the organization. i say go for it. advantage habs as JH is already ahead of the learning curve and could start sooner than later.

    2. Use our 2, second round pics and trade them for another 1st round pic giving the habs another chance at player in the 1st round… advantage habs, we end up with JH and still get a 1st round pic.

    3. who ever the gm is go out and sign shane doan. i know he is 35 but he would bring some instant credibility , respect in the locker room and it would go along way to soothe Carey Price who looks like a very frustrated franchise star player.

    4. add some toughness to the defence..sign a player or 2 short term for 1-2 years as the habs wait for young guys to mature.

    a just few thoughts.

  36. Old Bald Bird says:

    As a Hab fan, I think that many of us should take a real long and hard look in the mirror before we diss Leaf fans for their attitude. What a whiny and hysteric bunch we are, living in the past with a sense of entitlement that few Leaf fans could possibly match.

  37. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I have read everything on HIO …from the asinine to the refine

    …I even tolerate certain things about Yourself, Micheal Boone, because 95 % of the time You are an entertaining writer …that can often make Us out here in the wilderness, feel Our Habs’ Fandom come alive, and have a lot of fun along the way

    …but, You, Mike, have lost ALL credibility tonight …suggesting it is ‘okay’ for a Habs Fan to wish any kind of success for the Tawranna MuppleWeeds

    …Hell with Your sensitive Tawranna relatives …let ‘em suffer for eternity awaiting their Weeds to make the Playoffs

    …part of the essential pleasure of a Montreal Canadiens’ Fan is the infinite satisfaction One receives from Tawranna’s dysfunction

    …really Boone, I will from this day forward be imaging You with a secret Weed tattoo on Your flabby white butt :(

    _________________________________________________________
    HIS’ Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song: Morrissey ‘There is a light that never goes out’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjObvIQtsLk&feature=related

    …the Montreal Canadiens organization and Our Fans, as a whole need to feel this current cold frigid splash of reality, …this process will, hopefully, give Us a long needed sense of humility, not humiliation …and help to revive and renew Our tattered culture of high hockey ideals, and ultimate success in the near future
    …ride the wave, is all We can do as Fans: …Ownership must make the right choices, persevere, and act not talk

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • Marc10 says:

      I agree. At this stage it’s all we’ve got.

      No mercy. Non merci.

    • smiler2729 says:

      After all the Cups I’ve seen (I’m 47) I will admit to being spoiled and yeah, the Habs have been stuck in mediocrity since Roy BUT one thing I never tire of is the Laffs’ futility.

      In fact, I think I get more out of a Toronto loss than a Montreal win, is that SICK OR WHAT!

      __________________________________
      Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

  38. smiler2729 says:

    C’mon Boone, nobody feels bad for Laff Nation and their run of hockey diarrhea since ’67, no, in fact, we want it to continue forever.

    You don’t have to live here with them, I do. Like I’ve said before, as obnoxious as Bruins fans are, at least you can have a beer or eight with ‘em, Laff fans, no, not only are they stupid but will continue to brag about their perceived greatness endlessly.

    Leafs suck. Plain and simple.

    As for this Habs team, I’ve been bitching about Plekanec’s faceoff prowess for years, I’d love to see this overrated, overpaid, 3rd liner gone.

    But last night’s effort was putrid. The housecleaning upstairs can’t come soon enough.

    __________________________________
    Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

    • FlyingFrenchie says:

      I’ll drink to that! But it won’t be with any Leaf fans….What a bunch of skanks!
      As far as Boone saying he hopes they make the playoffs.
      He needs his Hab’s journalistic license suspended for
      DRUNK writing.
      But then again.. Let’s cut him some slack. He probably dosed off watching the game and is desperate for material.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      There is only one fellow I feel for when it comes to the Leafs, and that is my buddy who owns a sports bar. It is killing him to not have Leaf Playoff games. However, all my pity for him is lost when he reminds me he is a Bruins fan.

    • Marc10 says:

      Agree about Leaf Fans… The ones abroad don’t really keep up with their team. They’re not as fair weather as Canuck Fans who never really care until the second round, but I digress…

      I never thought Pleks was that bad on faceoffs until this year, but yeah, he’s been putrid.

      Maybe Philly would take him to convince Jagr to play another year. That would work. We’ll take Couturier… :-)

  39. HabinBurlington says:

    Wednesday forecast +13 and sunny in southern Ontario, I will go golfing and forget about hockey I think.

  40. HankHardball says:

    You can’t win if you can’t score.

    There’s only 2 teams in the Eastern Conference who’ve scored fewer goals than the Canadiens.
    They’re averaging 2.5 goals per game.
    They’ve scored more than 3 goals only 19 times in 66 games so far this year.

    The real problem is they’re one of the worst scoring teams in hockey.
    They seem to treat scoring as an after thought. As though it’s something all players at this level are supposed to be able to do.
    But it’s not happening. They’re getting their chances but they’re not converting.

    Being strong defensively is good. Being physically capable when necessary is good.
    But they won’t improve until they become a more offensive minded team and start concentrating more on finding players and ways to put the puck in the net.
    Historically, that’s how this team has always won.

  41. 44har48 says:

    Good Morning everyone….

    I heard Glen Healey last night refer to something I have been wondering about for months – Rollbacks. Music to my ears :).

    In the last CBA change, the league rolled back salaries x% and allowed teams one-time “Compliance Buyouts” that did not impact the cap. I may be crazy, but I see it happening again this offseason, and perhaps Montreal management knew it was coming when they dealt for Kaberle and held onto Gomez one more year.

    I think we will get a better understanding of just how much Mr. Molson wants to win vs. simply line his pockets this off-season when he is presented with an opportunity to strenghten his club by buying solutions to his staff’s mistakes.

    Anyhow, found this from the current CBA if anyone is interested:
    ==============================
    50.9 Issues Relating to Timing and Calculation of Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary.

    (i) “Ordinary Course” Buyouts and “Compliance” Buyouts.
    (i) If a Player’s SPC has been terminated and bought out by a Club pursuant to the Ordinary Course Buyout provisions set forth in the SPC (which SPC also eliminates the concept of the “lump sum” buyout), the money due and owing to the Player pursuant to the buyout shall be paid out in accordance with the terms of the SPC (e.g., one-third or two-thirds of the remaining Player Salary due and owing, to be paid over twice the remaining years of the terminated and bought out contract), and the amounts paid under such Buyout agreement shall be included in the Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary (as set forth in this Article 50) of the Club that bought out the Player during any League Year in which the buyout is paid, and the amounts paid under such buyout agreement shall also count against the Players’ Share for any League Year in which the buyout is paid (an “Ordinary Course” Buyout). Clubs exercising Ordinary Course Buyout rights pursuant to the SPC shall endeavor to provide a Player documentation sufficient to enable the Player to “factor” the Club’s buyout obligation with a commercial bank, if the Player so desires.

    (ii) If a Player’s 1995 SPC has been terminated and bought out by a Club pursuant to the “Compliance Buyout” provisions set forth in Exhibit 16 to this Agreement, which “Compliance Buyout” provisions apply only to the period preceding the 2005-06 regular season as agreed upon by the parties (and in accordance with the terms of the 1995 SPC, except as modified herein), then the money due and owing to the Player pursuant to the buyout shall be paid over the course of the remaining length of the terminated and bought out 1995 SPC, shall not be made in a lump sum, and the amounts paid under such buyout agreement shall not be included in the Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary of the Club that bought out the Player during any League Year in which the buyout is paid. Any moneys paid pursuant to a Compliance Buyout Agreement are excluded from the definition of League-wide Player Compensation. Amounts paid under such buyout agreement shall not be counted against the Players’ Share for any League Year in which they are paid. Moreover, a Player that has been bought out under the Compliance Buyout provisions of this Agreement shall be prohibited from rejoining the Prior Club that bought him out (via re-signing, trade Assignment or otherwise) for the 2005-06 League Year.

    (iii) Clubs and Players shall not be permitted to negotiate either a different amount or different length of time over which buyout obligations may be paid.

    (iv) If a Player’s SPC has been bought out by a Club prior to execution of this Agreement, the amounts paid under such buyout agreement shall not be included in the Actual Club Salary and Averaged Club Salary of the Club that bought out the Player during any League Year in which the buyout is paid. Any moneys paid pursuant to such Buyout Agreements are excluded from the definition of League-wide Player Compensation. Amounts paid under such buyout agreement shall not be counted against the Players’ Share for any League Year in which they are paid.

    (v) Clubs shall file their Buy-Out Agreements with Central Registry, the NHL and NHLPA.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I need a translator to read that in the morning, perhaps in a couple hours I will try again. I appreciate the sentiment of your post but reading lawyer talk on a Sunday morning is hard for a simpleton like me.

    • CC says:

      Not sure which of the two officiall languages that is in but I do not understand it, and I’m glad.

  42. Cal says:

    As far as I am concerned, the Cubs runs of no World Series wins can be matched by the laffs and I wouldn’t give a polished turd. It’s unfortunate they are long suffering, but so what?
    RC is making sure the Habs produce no offense besides Cole’s line. I’d replace him with a peewee coach; the guy would probably do better. For those who think all this losing is more “entertaining”, I’m sorry but watching this lousy tandem of the 2 Randys has gotten very old very quickly. Hurrah for the mostly ineffective forecheck. Woop-di-doo, they have a few players that can drop the gloves now. The object of the game is to shoot the puck at the opposition’s net.
    Draft Day and then UFA Day can’t come fast enough.

  43. kholdstare says:

    I think the culture of losing Michael Cammalleri spoke so eloquently about has spread to the journalists covering the Habs. Boone is writing Leaf ALN’s what is going on?

    • The Cat says:

      Ill say like Marc10 said:”something’s not right”. Plekanec is bitter about his PP time (when answering a post game question). And he has every right to be; seeing Gomez get more time than him is reminiscent of Price getting the bulk of the starts and losing, while Halak was confined to the bench for his next game unless he pitched a shutout…Cunneyworth is looking more like a loveable equipment manager more than a coach, even if hes a lame duck, hes not giving a very good audition. On one hand, they talk about team toughness, that the habs are building for next year, there wont be passengers, yet during the games, lines that arent working out are kept together for way too long, plus RC hasnt been very hands on in practices -thats when they do practice!…Something definitely ain’t right. The on ice culture is changing, but the off ice culture of grotesque favouritism has to change as well.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Not surprising to think there is issues in the room. Pleks has been a very good two way player and gets a pass in my book for his poor season. Do you think Gomez is an issue with other players on the team also? He would for me if I was a teamate.

      • Marc10 says:

        The Gomez thing is just mind-boggling. WTF is this guy still doing on the team let alone leading PP mins?

        I’d give Pleks, Eller, LL, Bourque, Yemmy time on the PP. Gomer would get nothing!

        I just don’t get it. Cunney was always an honest player. Never took a shift off. What is this crap about? He is damaging his rep by playing Gomez. He’s alienating the rest of the team who must share in our collective WTF… It makes no sense.

        Surely he’s being pressured to do this from on top. Maybe he’s been told to tank without making it overly obvious…. Come to think of it… It’s pretty obvious.

        Go tank Go!

  44. DadidolizedDougHarvey says:

    Jeez Mike, you sound like a guy who doesn’t have to sit and swallow all the Toronto biased crap that the CBC and all the sports networks spew out. If Tornoto just sat there nice, quiet, and humble like Winnipeg, well then I could extend some graciousness. But they are a bunch of pompous and smug windbags, like to see’em stuffed.

  45. kholdstare says:

    Leafs suck.

  46. Captain aHab says:

    Kessel looks like he’s humping the boards there. The rest of them are pretending real hard not to see him.

    —————-
    McGuire for GM!
    Roy for Coach!
    Sh*t for Brains!

  47. The Cat says:

    I think the habs got to entertain trading Plekanec. Im not saying hes the cause of all problems but he would draw interest. Its just that when supporting cast (usually wingers) get traded and they do well elsewhere, its time to look at the centremen on the habs. There was that year where he said he played like a girl, and now this year hes admittedly having an off year, thats 2 off years in not such a long time. Again, not saying its all his fault, his defined role has been all over the place. A 1-2 combo of DD-Plek isnt going to cut it.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Marc10 says:

      I know he’s stunk out the joint this year… He was part of the veteran core that didnt’ get it done when it mattered pre-Christmas under JM. And he’s really only had a handful of decent games.

      Cunney seems to be making an example of him by putting him on the Third line and by shunning him from second unit duty on the PP. It’s pretty weird for a guy who’s earned his big contract up to this year… Something’s not right.

  48. HabFab says:

    For those needing some “good news ” this morning…

    Patrick Holland scored his 100th point last night. 24G+76A / 65GP
    Brendan Gallagher scored his 40th goal last night. 40G+34A / 48GP
    Nathan Beaulieu scored his 50th point last night. 11G+40A / 49GP
    Danny Kristo scored his 40th point last night. 17G+23A / 35GP

    • Captain aHab says:

      The negative nellies will tell you that none of them can possibly pan out because it’s well-known that no good NHL prospect scores a lot at the CHL level. Don’t you know that Holland is older and plays on a good line? How could that possibly translate into NHL success? I mean look at Desharnais…he’s not panning out at all.

      —————-
      McGuire for GM!
      Roy for Coach!
      Sh*t for Brains!

      • HabFab says:

        So true, his birthday is in January instead of February like Tinordi or December like Beaulieu, the nerve of his mother!!

        On a more serious note… prospects are, well, only prospects until such time as they become “suspects”.

      • Cal says:

        DD was 23 when he made the team. You think waiting 4 to 5 years for a “can’t miss” prospect is a short amount of time?

      • Bill says:

        Statistically, it’s more likely that one of those guys *might* turn out to be an average NHL player, while the others never play more than 20 games

        That’s just reality.

        Except Beaulieu is awesome. He’ll make it.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

  49. Bob_Sacamano says:

    Doesn´t make much sense, Boone. What team should drop out to get both the Jets and Leafs in the playoffs, Ottawa? Oh wait, another canadian team. You can´t be possibly thinking about Philly or the Devils… I also hope the Jets make it but Toronto? Never and they won´t. I also don´t think getting killed by the Rangers in four or five games would be so great for the fans…

  50. Captain aHab says:

    http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36fmbc/

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    McGuire for GM!
    Roy for Coach!
    Sh*t for Brains!

  51. billylove says:

    Sorry Boone, but Eller looked awful soft for most of the night. Granted, he makes a play every now and then that causes some to believe he has a big upside but those brief moments are too few and too infrequent. He desperately needs to muscle up or his future will be just another third/fourth line center. We need a lot more than that.

    Depressing to see so many holes in our lineup. Hard to imagine this turning into a legitmate contender for at least several years and even that will be tough. To upgrade this group to the top tier would require changing at least half the roster. By any measure a major rebuild.

    • Cal says:

      Eller is a 3rd line center. His points production will tell you that. He is definitely not a natural scorer. Hell, with all those close calls he should have 20 goals at least. Instead, he has 23 total points after 63 games. He will not “blossom” into a first line center with 65 to 85 points per season. It’ll take him 2, maybe 3 seasons to reach those totals.

  52. Lizardking89 says:

    “I wouldn’t wish this feeling of hopelessness on any other city.”

    Uhhh yeah I can, Toronto. May they have another 50 years without a cup. They have all the arrogance of a great winning franchise. They have the CBC and TSN in their back pocket and their constant fawning over everything Maple Leaf related is sickening. As a Habs fan there’s no way in hell do I feel sorry for them or ever want to see them lift the cup, Watching those goons last year skate around with the cup was a nightmare.

  53. The Cat says:

    I got to hand it to Ron Mclean, he asked Burke some tough questions before the game…Funny though, Don Cherry later said they were easy questions! If only theyd seen a PG press conference/interview.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  54. Jdub1985 says:

    The Montreal Canadiens are the most storied franchise in hockey and arguably in sports as well.

    Watch the Yankees and you’ll see Jeter, Rivera
    Watch the Lakers and you’ll see Bryant, Fisher

    My point is this; why has it been so difficult to retire in a Habs jersey? I would really like to know the last player of significance and tenure within this organization that chose to spend the majority of his career in Montreal and retire in bleu blanc rouge.

    This is the context of our 2012 Habs franchise and I pity every 8 year old who will lose each one of their idols, because the organization has no clue how to build and maintain greatness.

    MaxPac Eller Subban DD – watch them leave one by one.

    I was 8 when the Habs won their last cup, how lucky was I.

    • Bill says:

      The Habs entire MO is to dump guys. Go through the draft records and see how much talent they’ve drafted and then thrown away.

      Best example: dumping Koivu in favour of Gomez. You don’t make an offer to your second-longest serving captain, and trade quality players to pay some stiff twice as much.

      That’s the Habs.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  55. Marc10 says:

    Tank, tank, tank… Thank you Mr Kaberle. What a contribution!

  56. RockinRey says:

    Mr. Boone!!!

    Always love the ALN. But HUH? What was i just reading? I am a huge Habs fan living in Toronto. When the Leafs are in the playoffs i can attest that the city is even more alive than it usually is ( maybe that is not saying much) But i dont go wishing they get in at the expense of the Habs and during playoff time you really cant compare “the BIG smoke” to Montreal for an evening out. For you to sympathize with Leaf fans, who are almost as fairweather as Habs fans is completely bizarre.

    I wish the Leafs 50 more years of misery and ineptitude. In fact for an organization that has a motto of… ” no excuses…” they sure have been making enough of them since they last won the cup and even moreso since the recent poor streak.

    Schedenfreude? Absolutely. Cant stand them. If you had watched the interview on CBC prior to last nights game you would have undertstood that there is a culture( the Leafs) within this organization that reeks of arrogance, entitlement and excuses. Listening to that pompous blowhard and miserable SOB Burke would have made you gag. Apparently the pressure of the trade deadline affects the psyche of the players in Toronto so he is thinking about implementing his own trade deadline( a few weeks prior to the official one) in much the same way he does before Christmas. Is this guy for real? Its always the medias fault in Toronto!!!

    And anyone who can cheer on the Leafs is not a real Habs fan in my opinion just as I believe any Leafs fan cheering for Montreal is not a true Leaf fan…

    Habs fans deserve excellence. They have had mediocrity for years but deserver to be like the Yankees of baseball. The cant overspend like the pinstripes but there is absolutely no reason they should not be a top tier NHL team every year!!!

    • Clay says:

      Playing the ‘not a real fan’ card is the weakest of all arguments, IMO.

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      • Bill says:

        No, the weakest is “you obviously know NOTHING about the game of hockey” in response to disagreement. So annoying. But yeah, “you’re not a real fan” is pretty bad.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

      • RockinRey says:

        Weekest arguments pal? Would a Yankees fan say i hope the Red Sox or Rays win it all?

        It’s not even remotely the weekest argument and anyone who says they are a fan of both teams clearly doesn’t understand what the rivalvry has meant.

    • Steve C. says:

      I highly dislike the Leafs, the Bruins even more. But living in B.C. with Leafs and Canucks fans, I have to hear it all the time. At least there are no Bruins fans here. I can’t stand the organization myself, but Brian Burke is actually quite brilliant and good for the media; I enjoy listening to him once in awhile.

      Maybe you’re jealous that Montreal doesn’t have a good GM, and worried that Montreal will get beaten up no longer only by Boston, but also Toronto, because with Randy Carlyle, they’re gonna do their best to have that big, bruising team that won the Cup in Anaheim in 2007. I know that’s how I feel.

      I think you’re misguided to assume that the Maple Leafs « (reek) of arrogance, entitlement, and excuses » when the Canadiens and many of their fans are accused of the same thing. Although we are human and most of us strive to do our best every day, the fact is we are just that, human and fallible; we fail and are not always perfect, it’s impossible. Excuses don’t help anybody, but we all make them.

      Then you turn around and say « Habs fans deserve excellence. » Come on, that’s not fair at all. Plus, I can’t stand the Yankees. If you ask me, THEY are a disgrace for trying to buy themselves championships, but I won’t be the first guy in line to tell you that. Give me the Red Sox or yes, even the Blue Jays, any day. At least with RDS and my firmly-rooted Canadiens blood vessels, the Toronto media machine will never capture me, nor Vancouver’s. But with Nos Amours gone, one is bound to follow the team most publicized and available to watch.

      With my sidetracking over, let me re-iterate that wearing that Habs logo, from the top to the bottom of the franchise, means something, and you should fight for that logo every day. I want to support a winning Canadiens team, and I hope to very soon. But none of us should be blinded by the fact that it isn’t our, the fans, inherent right to follow an excellent team. All 30 teams go for the same goal, and 29 will be left disappointed…that’s an average of one Stanley Cup per 30 years…it’s devastating when you think about it, fuel for the pessimists. I battle every day to not allow that for myself. Go Habs go.

      • Bill says:

        The Red Sox don’t try to “buy” championships?

        Also, there’s nothing wrong with spending money to get good players if you can. What, should the Yankees just not sign players?? I can just imagine the press conference by the Yankees GM: “Yeah, we were going to sign so-and-so, but we decided it just wouldn’t be fair to everyone else, so we let Milwaukee have him.”

        ???

        Full Breezer 4 Life

  57. shootdapuck says:

    Gomez will be bought out and Kaberle will be dumped on a European league team after clearing waivers.

  58. outsider89 says:

    how can anyone knock Moen, White or Staubitz? These 3 play their heart out every shift, and will drop them if need be? MTL has to focus more in their divsion first, than eastern conf, before even looking at “the west”. Thats where the points come from. You think NYR got Scott because they are tinking about the West?

  59. deuce6 says:

    I have been looking at scouting reports and video coverages of the players that are highly ranked in this coming draft, and let me tell you, Alex Galchenyuk is the best player in this draft..He may be a steal for us, if we get him at 3…I said earlier that Mikhael Grigorenko would be the ideal pick, but I have changed my mind..Galchenyuk is our guy..

    ——————

    Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

    • Boomer says:

      Agreed Deuce. I’ve been doing the same and Galchenyuk would be a steal, he’s dropped in the rankings cause of his injury. If we’re lucky we’ll get him. A few weeks ago i would of gone with Grigorenko but many reports have him as a no show for most games (like AK46). I just hope we don’t draft a defensman lol. Galchenyuk or Forsberg please.

      • Bill says:

        The defensemen available at #3 might be better than the forwards. According to the scouts, that is indeed likely to be the case.

        I wouldn’t mind seeing them take Murray or Dumba.

        I like Grigorenko or Faksa. Forsberg, sure.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

  60. daveho29 says:

    Just wondering what happened to the promise at the beginning of the season?
    Having taken the eventual stanley cup winners to 7 games, in overtime no less, to this sad sack of a team.

    We had Plecks, Cammi,Gio, AK, PK, Markov, Pacioretty, DD, Eller, Gomez(yes Gomez) and his promise to do better, then with the addition of Cole and the anticipation of seeing (Y)Emelin in habs jersey the season looked promising
    We had 2 good scoring lines and a decent shut down line.

    WTF happened, besides injuries?

    Taking a lot of flak from these dam Canucks fans for next weeks game, was going to go but don’t want to spend $150 to be embarrassed.

  61. durocher says:

    “You have to think that Brian Gionta, Travis Moen, Mathieu Darche … heck, even Scott Gomez … might have helped.”

    If our offensive hopes rest with these players, there’s very little reason for optimism. I would suggest that none of these players, perhaps with exception of Gio, should be back with the Habs come October.

    • naweed235 says:

      Travis Moen is a guy that EVERY team will jump on come July…
      He is exactly the type of depth guy that successful teams stockpile on to make deep play off runs…
      Not many in this league who are cheap, have size and grit, can drop em with the heavy weights, and most importantly can PLAY hockey… The guy is a beast on the PK and can pot a few important goals every now and then…
      I really don’t understand how people do not see Moen’s value to this team…

      • Mike D says:

        I see Moen’s value quite clearly and really hope the Habs re-sign him. Problem is that a lot of fans can’t see past the flashy plays and the players who make them.

        - Honestly yours
        Twitter: @de_benny

      • showey47 says:

        I was disappointed we didn’t move him last week but i think he has a concussion or something which would make him next to impossible to move unless it was for a conditional pick.It was also reported pg said he wasn’t available for trade because he was planning to resign him.

      • Clay says:

        Same with Moore – you need that type off gritty player in the playoffs. Stupid to let Moore go, and it will be equally dumb if they let Moen go – which I think will happen.

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  62. sreuel says:

    Why don’t they interview Molson get his thoughts on the team and the game they lost

  63. Rad says:

    Tough Western swing coming right up. It’s not going to be pretty, folks. The Habs have never done well out west, not even in their good years.

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Stay tuned for both Hab goals on the upcoming road trip. I’ll bet DD assists on both of them.

    • naweed235 says:

      good then! I don’t understand why any one would like the Habs to do well at this point… Yes I understand that you don’t want to lose too many games even if you are outta the playoffs not to let a “loser mentality” settle… but let’s just take this season for what it is… a great chance at drafting a real franchise player who can perhaps put the habs in that next gear they need to become contenders…
      I said before and I’ll say it again… Despite what it looks like, we are really not that far away… The problem with the years team is that there is too many guys that are playing roles that they are not supposed to be playing… Georges is not supposed to be a top 2… White and Geof are not supposed to be on your second line
      Kaberle, Weber, Diaz and Campoli are not supposed to be on the same D unit…
      you get the idea…

    • daveho29 says:

      I was at the game against the Canucks last year, very entertaining game and Habs won 3-2.

      Not sure about going this year though.

  64. matt jordan says:

    Say what you want about Brian Burke and the Leafs, when he fired his coach mid season, he had a plan in place. He brought in a respected veteran, Stanley Cup winning coach. Somebody who is tough and wants his team to play hard defense. He gave the guy a three year contract, and when Burke was questioned his choice (why didn’t you hire Dallas Eakins was the main question)Burke defended his choice and had a respectable explanation.

    When Pierre Gauthier fired his coach, he had no plan in place. PG made it clear it was a lame duck coach, and apologized for hiring Cunneyworth. It was a signature Gauthier move, and I hope Gauthier is gone before Cunneyworth is.

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      All good points. Monteal is amateur hour right now, which is a shame given the storied history of this franchise. The only way to fix that is to clear the head office.

    • showey47 says:

      Yesterday was mid-season? Besides,burke and the leafs don’t have to eliminate 90% of their potential full time coaching pool due to language. Don’t know why pg is being jumped on for this.He clearly stated RC was interm and the position would be reviewed at seasons end. He didn’t apologize for hiring RC,he apologized to those who were “offended” by the hiring.Big difference. I wasn’t offended so he had no need to apologize to me. Chances are both will be gone at seasons end.

      • matt jordan says:

        Yes it was a mid season firing… Its not before the season or after… so….

        The fact is Gauthier does not have a plan. He didn’t when he appointed Cunneyworth a temp, and he doesn’t now.

        Hiring a unilingual, lame duck coach in this market? Brilliant.

        Gauthier deserves to be jumped on because his moves have been questionable at best, and like Ron Wilson, he needs to be replaced by someone who can plan for the future, and not trade for players like Tomas Kaberle.

  65. NCRhabsfan says:

    It seems to me at least part of the problem is having an interim coach. I have nothing against RC but he needs to be fired ASAP and replaced by a “real” coach. Then, and only then, can the coach outline the future for players; “play well and we’ll see you here next year, don’t and we have a home for you in the ECHL.” RC can’t do that because everyone on the planet knows he won’t be back to oversee whatever is left over after this disgrace of a season.

    I see 4 forwards that look to have a lock on a job next year: Cole, DD, MaxPac, and Eller. All the rest are on a try out. Pleks first among them. Never in the history of hockey has a guy so completely mailed in a half a season. A Bulldogs jersey would look great on him right about now!!!!!

    One goal again! When do we start calling the Habs offence the attack of the girlie men?

    The bigger question is when do they start giving the fans they’re money back. This is NOT professional entertainment. The Habs should be sued for fraud. Let’s hope this revolting display results in a great selection in the draft, otherwise, well who knows, the Expos found out how failing in Montreal works.

    • Rainrocket16 says:

      Sued for Fraud? Pass the Hashish my friend!

    • Mike D says:

      “RC needs to be fired ASAP?” What?!?! Are you f’n kidding me?!?!

      We’re dead last in the east with 16 games left in the season. What on earth would be accomplished by turfing an interim coach now? Or are we trying to set a club record for classless moves this season (if we haven’t already)?

      - Honestly yours
      Twitter: @de_benny

  66. Rainrocket16 says:

    Boone I think I may just polish my pitchfork right now…I can deal with you being a Red Sox fan, even though I do not condone such behavior, now you are cheering on the Leafs!!! Blasphemy!

    Hey, on another note…. I do think the Habs played with some moxy tonight. Say what you all may, the boys are putting it on the line as if it still means something. We had a couple bad faceoffs and a key defensive slip (which is very common this year…couch WEBER..), aside from these few obstacles and the Refs being leafs fans tonight, the boys played great. This team is tough again, no longer gonna back down. Good things coming next year!

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Played Great???? Outshot 42-22? Outhit, outmuscled, out everythinged. Played great? Compared to what? The bull in a bullfight? This was total BS again. If this is what we’re hoping for, I just became a Senators fan.

  67. Un Canadien errant says:

    Ugh!… Your Montréal Canadiens don’t know how to lose. They’ll lose some games after earning a regulation-tie point, which accomplishes nothing for their psyche or morale or their fans, and nothing for their draft position and the quest for the next Canadien Idol. They’ll lose games after teasing us with an early goal or two and leading us on, only to let us down at the end of the night.

    Then they go and lose outright against the Toronto Maple Leafs, a ragtag group that has been spitting up the bit on the homestretch, with the Riddler and the Monstrosity in nets. They lose by allowing Mikhail Grabovski to score two goals and an assist, a few days after allowing Mike Ribeiro, another guy who micturated on the team logo before leaving town, to score a goal and an assist and earn the first star of the game and re-confirm his status as one of the leading clowns in the league.

    All the talk before the game was about Toronto and Brian Burke and Ron Wilson and Randy Carlyle and I wanted to retch so much was I submerged in blue and white effluvia. All I wanted was a couple of goals to shut the pajama party down and get the guys with the headphones to notice there weren’t just Maple Leafs on the ice but some other skaters too, and what do you know?, they’re all wearing red jerseys and stuff, maybe look into it and find out what that’s about.

    The #1 line did its job, they scored the lone goal of the game for les Glorieux and buzzed around the Toronto end all night. They were dangerous and creative and battled hard. Erik Cole swept around Toronto defenders countless times on the way to the net. He had four shots and Max Pacioretty had six, and he gets more and more confident with the puck as the season progresses. David Desharnais was always around the puck and we saw him go up against big bad Dion Phaneuf in the corners and come out with the puck more often than not.

    The rest of the roster did what it could, but I scratch my head at how shallow it is. How did I feel so confident at the start of the season? I thought I was being cautiously optimistic when I predicted that the Canadiens would battle for a spot in the playoffs. Inwardly, I thought they could get up to 7th or 6th. I am now completely comfortable with the fact that they are last in the Conference, the lowly position is reflected in the presence of Ryan White and Blake Geoffrion on the second line. We’re not snakebitten or suffering from rotten luck, we’re just not very good at all. We’re scratching the bottom of the drawers and digging in the couch cushions to get enough change to buy a second line. Tomas Plekanec is now shielded from any accusation that he’s having an off-year offensively, saddled as he is with borderline fourth liners-AHL’ers as his wingers.

    This is occurring days after Pierre Gauthier scoffed at the notion of a long rebuild period for the Canadiens, usually characterized by an extended period at the bottom of the standings à la Edmonton Oilers. Mr. Gauthier stated that turnarounds can be quick and some are easily done. Philippe Cantin of La Presse was stunned by this, and wondered if the Canadiens GM might be a pathological optimist, having overestimated his team on a number of occasions in the recent past. In this instance, I wonder if the return to form next season of Brian Gionta, Travis Moen and Mathieu Darche is enough to plug all the holes and vault the Canadiens into contention. Even a healthy Andrei Markov leaves us with two question marks on defence.

    The positives are that the Canadiens played hard all game, not exactly inspired, but with more effort than against the Panthers and Capitals on their recent road trip. What is missing is talent, confidence, the killer instinct to put away a reeling team in the first period when they’re staggering. Not that this is easy to acquire or figure out, but it is more pardonable.

    So to confirm, at least to myself, that we need to take the long view and look to the future, I will accept the loss as helping management to plan for the future. I am also going to attend the Vancouver Giants game on Wednesday against the Tri-City Americans, and scout Brendan Gallagher and Patrick Holland, see how the kids are looking. I’ll be sure to report my findings to the group.

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  68. MTLCANADIENS says:

    we better keep staubitz next year! hes fought 2/3 games so far..

  69. Castor says:

    We could probably get somebody decent for Diaz & Webber
    Markov
    Gorges
    Subban
    Emelin
    Tinordi?
    Somebody?

    And for the love of all that is holy get rid of Kaberle. That is PGs worst move (aside from trading Cammy mid game)

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      When Tomas Kaberle was obtained, I felt sick to my stomach. Like if my sister had married a chronically unemployed dirtbag. How did this happen, and how do we get ourselves out of it?

      He plays without passion and emotion, like he always did back in Toronto. Watching him tonight, I was struck by how he doesn’t seem to want to be on the ice. Other players look like they’re having fun out there, he looks like he can’t wait for the clock to wind down.

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      • NCRhabsfan says:

        But at least he plays, which is more than you can say for the phantom Markov. Markov will never play another meaningful minute. The Habs have a bunch of great dman prospects, but they’re 2-3 years away. Guess what? Kaberle is what you get for the next 2-3 years until those guys are ready. Suck it up buttercup. It is what it is.

      • matt jordan says:

        Kaberle is a career Maple Leaf who happened to win a Cup with Bruins.

        If he did care about anything regarding hockey in general (which is hard to tell), he would have hated the Habs. And that type of quality would make Kaberle irresistable for Gauthier.

        But yes, I had the same feeling when Kaberle was acquired…

  70. deuce6 says:

    Screw the Leafs and their fans..They deserve every bit of heart break they get and I will NEVER “hope” that they get a shot at the playoff hockey..*knock on wood*…They wallow in 10th-12th place and have the gall to be smug and take pot shots at the Habs and their fans because we are having a tough season? F ‘em… /rant..lol

    Anyway, we really need to clean house this off season and hope we can somehow re sign Price to a long term contract because if he walks, this franchise is gonna be pretty tough to watch for the next few years..Throw what you can at Parise and draft Grigorenko..Need some serious grit on the back end, as well..

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    Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

  71. habstrinifan says:

    It’s amazing how many people have had their weaknesses exposed (reputations tarnished deservedly or not) as this train wreck of a season just keeps taking casualties.
    PG.
    Gainey.
    JM.
    RC now.. I think his stock is falling precipitously.
    Molson .. he surely isnt seen as the bright shining star owner as when the season started.
    Pearn.
    The conditioning/training staff.

    Gomez
    Camallieri.
    Campoli.
    Kaberle.
    Plekanec.. some may disagree but his stock is taking a beating too.
    Gionta… sure he has been injured lots but his captaincy is at least of dubious merit.
    Weber.
    AK46.
    Budaj.
    Bourque.

    TIMO…. ok i threw that in just to see if you are listening.

    I suspect not ONE of the names mentioned above would cause great consternation if they were to become an ex-employee.

    • Mike D says:

      I’d be pretty pissed if the Habs traded Gio or Plecky. Depending on the return then I might not mind, but both players have gotten dragged through the mud by much of the fan base for no good reason.

      How quickly some forget the players who led our team in points and goals respectively the past two seasons.

      - Honestly yours
      Twitter: @de_benny

      • NCRhabsfan says:

        Why would you be upset if they traded Pleky? He clearly doesn’t give a crap. A more useless centre in the NHL would be hard to find right now. He is completely invisible almost all the time. He doesn’t hit, doesn’t score, doesn’t set up his wingers, doesn’t win face-offs and he sucks at the shoot out that gets you another point. Where exactly is the upside?

        • Mike D says:

          I’d be upset because Pleks is a career Canadien and true pro. He’s been given no help on the wings this year, yet is still 4th on the team in points…and notice how the top 3 are all on the same line together. He’s also given the most defensive responsibility of any forward on the roster and is the centerpiece of our league-leading penalty kill.

          Is that enough upside for you? If not, I’ll also throw in that he’s been heavily misused this season (playing the point on the PP under Martin for how long?), reduced PP minutes, less offensive assignments, etc.

          I referenced it above, but it bears repeating. How many seasons has Pleks led our team in scoring?

          - Honestly yours
          Twitter: @de_benny

        • boing007 says:

          You’re full of it.

          Richard R

    • matt jordan says:

      Some of them are already ex-employees.

      It started with Perry Pearn… and has been downhill from there.

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Right on dude.

  72. MacHabFan says:

    C’est la vie.

  73. Rad says:

    … “the phlegmatic Rene Bourque.”
    Good descriptor for the Albertan. A little passion would go a long way with that kid.

    • matt jordan says:

      Bourque had the same problem in Calgary, lack of passion… and hockey sense.

      Good thing Bourque is signed for another FOUR more years after this. A Pierre Gauthier special.

      • Mike D says:

        I agree Matt that the term of his contract is a real bitch, but considering Calgary had to take Cammy’s 6mil salary cap hit over the next two years with the way he was playing, we were lucky to find a trading partner. Plus we got a 2nd rounder next year and a prospect who is near the top of the scoring race in the WHL. That said, I still think Holland is a long-shot prospect, but maybe we’ll get lucky with him.

        Bourque is basically another AK. Doesn’t have the raw skill AK does but somehow produces at a higher rate, and both are enigmatic with similar cap hits. We essentially replaced AK with another AK, acquired a not-great contract but shed a worse one, and added a prospect and 2nd round pick while not risking the loss of an asset for nothing in the offseason.

        - Honestly yours
        Twitter: @de_benny

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          I agree. Good trade. My expectations for Mr. Bourque is that he chips in twenty a year while playing on the third line, providing size and a few hits and getting some power play time. His effectiveness on the PK is just a bonus. If he does these things, his contract is very reasonable and he’ll contribute enough.

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        • matt jordan says:

          It’s tough to say, the thing with Cammalleri is that he has such a higher upside and I have to think there would’ve been a team out there that would have been willing to pay a better price for him, especially since half the league didn’t know he was available.

          • showey47 says:

            He was being shopped for a month and half the league didn’t know about it? Bourque has been the more productive forward over the past 3 years at half the cap hit. They also got one of the top scorers in the whl and a 2nd rd pick who for all we know can turn into another gem like subban or it can be flipped to fill another organizational need.It will be years before we know the total outcome of this trade.But i think we will win this one.

          • matt jordan says:

            Yep, some GM`s were suprised to heat that Cammalleri was available. Believe it was made public on Elliote Friedman`s thirty thoughts column

      • NCRhabsfan says:

        Send Bourque to Hamilton! Nothing like a little time on a bus to refocus your completely idle mind!

  74. Mike D says:

    “Phlegmatic” – nice touch, Boone. Also accurate.

    If Campoli and Kaberle are still on this team next season, it will be a nightmare. Campoli is easy since he just simply won’t be re-signed, but getting rid of Kaberle without taking another albatross contract back in return might be difficult.

    I could tolerate one of Diaz or Weber but not both, and we’ll need another defensive Dman with a physical presence on the back end.

    - Honestly yours
    Twitter: @de_benny

  75. habstrinifan says:

    I hate the dump and chase too… well when it’s overused as it iS by RC.

  76. jedimyrmidon says:

    Yeah, the style of game currently played by the Habs is good for 1) the penalty kill and 2) the top lien that can power their way to winning board battles.

    Dump-and-chase is killing the skill players, sucking all passing and finesse out of their game. As for the D, other than Subban and Gorges (and Emelin), they really are horrible at moving out of their own zone. They either 1) try a weak clearing attempt that is intercepted by an opposing player or 2) ice the puck. Or whenever they break out of their zone, they dump the puck in and go off for a change.

  77. DorvalTony says:

    The thinking is that they have to do the Lemaire trap because this is the worst Canadiens team in 50-60 years.

    “Okay everybody take a Valium.” – Rene Levesque

  78. Mark C says:

    You watched a NHL highlight package and didn’t see a dump in? Get out of here!

  79. ont fan says:

    Lemaire, Boucher for coach?

  80. habstrinifan says:

    This is one reason why Eller is not having results.. if you watch his game he takes the puck right into the o-zone … if he gets a shooting winger and he PRACTISES to find that winger, we would have a good 2nd line. Oh Well next year he will be with Gallagher and we would have a new coach.

  81. Hobie Hansen says:

    You only have to put up with it for another month and the season will be over.

    New coach with new system next year.

    But the dump and chase method is necessary in all games at certain points and the fact the Canadiens have wingers like Pacioretty, Cole, Bourque, White, Moen and Staubitz who are good at digging in the corners helps.

    Right now the season is lost, some guys are giving it 100% and others aren’t. You can’t really judge or get mad at anything that is going on now cuz half the team is exhibition mode and they also know Cunneyworth will be gone next year.

  82. smiler2729 says:

    Bad teams dump and chase

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    Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

  83. 24 Cups says:

    My thoughts on AK46 are well known. My only regret is that he wasn’t put on a line with Eller this year on a long term basis to see if they could develop a really decent 3rd unit (say with Moen on the other wing). The constant shuffling of cards and benchings as learning experiences never allowed it to happen.

    LW might be a problem going forward. We don’t have any prospects on that side and Bourque looks like another half miler. I also worry that Geoffrion seems to lack foot speed.

    The kid we draft in June may have a bearing on the situation.

  84. jedimyrmidon says:

    Yeah, I agree. Eller can hang on to the puck and move around opposing players. But he’s playing with Bourque who doesn’t go to the net and always loses the puck AND tries to pass more often than shoot.

    Subban is also impressive at keeping the puck during his increasingly rare ventures deep into the O zone (which is great; showing that he’s maturing), allowing his teammates to get set up. He only appears to do attempt these when his teammates are generating nothing, fumbling around and there’s nothing to lose by trying to create something.

    As for the dump-and-chase, I agree it should always be a component of the game plan, but NOT the only part of the game plan as it is now. And there’s also got to be a more effective way of doing it than dumping it in so deep that the forwards can’t get to it before the opposing D men do and just dump it back out, resulting in wasted sprints. Seems to me that teams like Vancouver are good at dumping it part of the way in smart areas so that their forwards can simply pick the puck up and continue moving in, allowing other guys to get set up.

  85. saskhabfan says:

    LMFAO.

  86. habstrinifan says:

    He said 15 mins of highlights.

  87. habstrinifan says:

    You edited your post without acknowledging that youhad misread his…. while still trying your utmost to belittle him. Kinda unfair.

  88. habstrinifan says:

    Yes dump and chase method is necessary in al games at certain times. You shouldnt play a game where it is not utilsed. It is a less error-prone method of gaining the o-zone and begining a harassing cycle.. but again if overused it eliminates many facets of the skilled game and also does not ice-awareness and passing ability and skating into ‘holes’ in timely fasion. Also, as you can see with the HABS, it does not improve the on the rush triangulation passing.

  89. habstrinifan says:

    Geoffrion wont make this team next year and Bourque will have o play harder to keep his ice-time… I hope. We have many ‘kids’ who can and should be added to line-up and sink or swim with them… under new coaching/system.

  90. Mark C says:

    For his sake, I hope this “highlight” package at least showed some sweet line changes or some crisp D-to-D passes.

  91. saskhabfan says:

    Have you ever seen any sportsnetwork show 15 minutes of highlights from one game? You won’t even see tsn show 15 consecutive minutes of leaf highlights.I have no doubt he watched highlights but i just think the 15 minutes is a tad exagerated by about 10 minutes or so.

  92. Mark C says:

    I think you meant to post this somewhere else. None of it applies to my post.

  93. habstrinifan says:

    Read again! You may have inferred ‘from one game’. He did not say so.

  94. saskhabfan says:

    My bad.That may be the case but they won’t shows dump ins on any highlight package if they show highlights from all 82 games.

  95. boing007 says:

    Teams become bad when all they do is dump and chase.

    Richard R

  96. jedimyrmidon says:

    That is a good way to put it. I seriously get the feeling that their skills atrophy when all they do is dump and chase and don’t appear to have any serious practices/consistent line combinations.

    The Habs players have become mindless drones lacking creativity. Well, players other than Subban, Eller and DD. Pleks seems to have deteriorated as the season progressed, and AK indirectly complained about the dump and chase.

  97. SlimDiggity says:

    See recent top 3 picks. A lot of them have made an immediate impact in the NHL. Forsberg is considered to be NHL ready and we will probably have the opportunity to draft him.

  98. naweed235 says:

    when you look at guys like Stamkos, Hall, Seguin, Nugent Hopkins, Larsson, Coutourier, etc. they pretty much jumped right in… 5 yrs is being over dramatic by your part

  99. podbay says:

    It’s maybe overly dramatic, but it drives home the point of how the Habs draft: Montreal NEVER seems to be interested in drafting players that can actually step into the NHL right away. It’s always draft a kid who needs years and years to develop. God forbid this philosophy should change. My faith in Montreal drafting someone who might take less that 3-5 years to make it to the NHL is minimal. Now imagine if we had kept Ryan McDonaugh..

  100. Le Jadester says:

    Don’t know.
    But please, No JM.

    Habs, OLE !

  101. HabFab says:

    And how many years did it take for McDonaugh to make it to the NHL?

  102. naweed235 says:

    Gauthier looking good? are you from the planet of the apes?

  103. nickster13 says:

    Yep. a lot of guys in the organization just looking the part but not acting the part.

    “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

  104. zorro says:

    Ya, sometimes it’s much more than just the player’s.

  105. Kooch7800 says:

    Cammy isn’t the player he used to be. We got a prospect, a second rounder and Bourque…Cammy isn’t doing squat with Calgary either and he makes 3 million more, How is that a bad trade?

    Who would trade a first rounder for Ak? He has 12 goals….he is a streaky winger who doesn’t bring it every game.

    The Kabby move was brutal. Markov was a mistake but I would imagine when he signed they thought he would be back. If he didn’t have the setback in December he would be back. If they didn’t sign Markov…would you really want Wiz back?

    I think PG should go but he some of the things he has done are not that bad

  106. Bill says:

    The Cole signing was great. Turning Gill into a 2nd rounder plus two prospects was also gold. I don’t have a problem with the Kaberle deal either, as Spacek is walking for nothing at the end of the year, and Kaberle can either play on the 3rd pair or on the power-play or easily be dealt for picks/prospects, which again is more than the Canes are going to get for Spacek.

    This isn’t an anti-Gauthier post. It’s more of an anti-Bourque post. He looks terrible out there … of course he’s got lots of company on that.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  107. Trisomy 21 says:

    HP I think you need to relax, I thought that was pretty funny

  108. HabinBurlington says:

    If the Flames make the playoffs and he goes on one his runs he becomes invaluable, clutch scoring. But that is alot of money per season for a guy that seems to really play his best for limited games.


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