About last night …

TokerAna

Crazy game or what?
Your Montreal Canadiens blew a 2-0 lead.
François Beauchemin scored the weirdest goal of the season.

Video replay in the Shootout?
Are you kidding me?
And then Andrei Markov, who didn’t sign a new contract before Trade Deadline day, smokes one past Jonas Hiller to get the Canadiens two valuable points.

Look peeps, it’s almost 2 a.m. in Montreal and the Ol’ Blogger needs his beauty sleep to get ready for another late night in Phoenix.

So ALN is going to be short and as sweet as I can make it.

I’ll leave most of the heavy lifting to the Commentariat … if y’all are not too tired after posting 1,900 Comments to the Trade Deadline story and another 1,100 to the live game blog.

So just a few bullet points:

• Making his first NHL start in almost two years, Dustin Tokarski didn’t see an Anaheim shot on goal until the game was almost 11 games old. From 10:45 on the first period through five minutes of Overtime, the Ducks fired 42 shots at Tokarski, including 19 in a wild second period.

• The only thing bigger than Brendan Gallagher’s heart is his sack. He tormented the Anaheim D all night, and the mighty mite’s 16th goal exceeded his rookie total.

•  Jarred Tinordi had six hits and is starting to look like a regular.

• Gallagher and Max Pacioretty each had six SoG, and Max-Pac scored his 30th goal. Through the first 21 games of the season, Pacioretty had scored twice. You do the math on how hot he’s been.

• Then put down your calculators and put on your thinking caps to figure out how Thomas Vanek should be slotted in Thursday night.

Here are my lines against Phoenix: Max-DD-Gallagher, Vanek-Plekanec-Gionta, Galchenyuk-Brière-Bourque, Weise-White-Moen.

Yes, I’d sit Lars Eller for at least one more game.

And I’d play Mike Weaver … maybe.

It’s hard to sit Douglas Murray, who had three hits, blocked three shots and played a shade under 19 minutes against Anaheim. But three games in four nights … and if Michel Therrien played George Parros as a homecoming gesture against the Ducks, he’ll want to do the same for Murray Saturday night in San Jose.

Much to discuss – after a very good day for the Montreal Canadiens.

• Classy guy George Parros on Twitter after the game: Thanks to the great fans of the OC and the @AnaheimDucks for giving me such a warm reception… It truly meant a lot. 

549 Comments

  1. CHicoHab says:

    Fan 590 Toronto this morning the host was ranting about how overrated Vanek is and not worth the rental so Nonis didn’t pursue. He says Nonis probably made an attempt and asking price too high for someone that can’t wait for July 1st free agency. Stopped listening to this show since neutral Gord Stellick was on. Was curious to get there take on Vanek.

  2. habsr4ever says:

    There is no debate. No way Eller will be a good fit with Vanek. Eller waits too long to decide what to do with the puck. He is an AWEFUL puck distributer. Sorry but he is. Hence he will always be our third line centre. Checking role and take over from Pleks. Eller has size and I would keep him no doubt about it and pay him his $3.5 M times 6 years this contract – just say’in. Briere with Vanek is a NO BRAINER. These two will click for SURE and will eat up the Bruins. Leave Pleks and Gionta and Galchenyuk together. Leave DD Pacman and Gallahger together. Bourque Briere Vanek. Fourth line is Moen/Prust at LW Eller at C and White/Weisse at RW. Bournival is going down to Hamilton – book it. Let him play and get HUGE minutes in Hamilton and not sit in the press box. NO brainer.
    Man Murray is SLOW. Great PKer. Him and Tinordi had a few WEAK shifts and got lucky Getzlaf missed the net a few times. Tinordi has a pretty darn good first outlet pass – getting more and more comfy seeing him back there. He has developed a ton. He made one bad pass/play last night in his own zone and that was his only MAJOR mistake I saw. His speed looks fast but I need to remind myself he looks fast cuz his partner is Murray. I want to see Weaver so to me that means Murray sits. Keep playing Tinordi and let’s see what we got here. To me he is ready but still too small of a sample size to know for sure We pick on Emelin a lot but remember he is playing his OFF D side. Coming off knee surgery this certainly doesn’t help. He is playing better but still has brain farts out there on his pinches and wandering over too far on the other D’s side. Drives me bonkers. Gorges was solid last night. PK – played a good game. Any how – Vanek scores tonight – BOOK IT!!!

  3. on2ndthought says:

    Great day to be a Hab fan.

    Gritty team with skill! Man those ducks looked huge last night, but we didn’t flag when the going got tough; still think the refs were unbalanced, but we didn’t falter.

    To those who criticize Gorges:
    Malgré la douleur, Gorges a été utilisé pendant 21:28 minutes contre les Ducks, ainsi que 16:42 face aux Kings.
    He and Murray have become a shut down pair extraordinaire.

    I put Vanek with Briere and Chuky
    DD, Gally, Max
    Eller, Pleks, Gio
    White, Weiss Bourque/Prust/Moen/Parros

    “a cannonading drive”

  4. Hobie Hansen says:

    “It’s hard to sit Douglas Murray, who had three hits, blocked three shots and played a shade under 19 minutes against Anaheim.”

    Excellent point Boone.

    In saying that though, we really have no reason to dress Parros again. Maybe against Boston if we want him to take a beating from either Lucic, Chara or Thornton so some of the other guys don’t have to fight them? The last game was actually pretty quiet against them with Parros in the lineup.

    I think Boston could be pissed about that last whipping we put on them and would also like to show the Habs who’s boss after the Vanek signing. Should be an intense game regardless.

    • Cal says:

      Hey Hobie. Parros will dress against Boston. Murray, too. It keeps them quiet after the whistle. Lets the Habs play like the Habs should. The combination of skill, toughness and a couple heavyweights in the line up used to be a Habs trademark. I am glad to see it’s back.

      • stephen says:

        Silly thing about dressing Parros against the Bruins next week is that there is no way he would be in the lineup should the Habs happen to play Boston in the playoffs. I’d rather they dismantle the Bruins without the ‘stache patrolling the ice.

    • bwoar says:

      Lucic will not fight Parros. He picks his fights and that alone is reason to dress the big guy.

      I think most people don’t understand or don’t agree with what these guys are in the lineup to do.

  5. Captain aHab says:

    Remember when the previous administrations would throw 2nd rounders around to get stopgap dmen? MB isbringing them in with 5th rounders….

    —————-
    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  6. AZ_Hab_Fan says:

    Going to the game tonight! Woot!

  7. Timo says:

    Man, listening to Obama talk about democratic process is like listening to Gui! talk about player character.

  8. Kooch7800 says:

    What is up with the caps and flyers and their second brawl of the season. Vinny look like he took a couple good punches from Erskine

    “Lets Go Canada”

  9. Mattyleg says:

    Gonna be a big game against Boston on Wed.

    I have two tickets to offer for it. A buddy has a pair and can’t go.
    $135 each, in the Whites.
    Face value.

    Anyone interested?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  10. AceTen says:

    Is it just me or does Boone seem to have a strage obsession with Gallagher’s balls? lol

  11. shiram says:

    Mark Divver ‏@MarkDivver

    Eriksson, who didn’t play Tues., said he expects to play tonite. Cut his heel getting into tub in Sochi and it became infected.

    Heh those dirty russian tubs…

  12. wjc says:

    I am in favor of the Vanek pick up, however, knowing this sight this could be twisted in years to come.

    Lets say the Canadiens win a couple of rounds with Vanek in the lineup but he decides to move on in the summer.

    Lets say that Collberg becomes a very good player in a couple of years and the 2nd rounder also becomes very good.

    The twisters will say are the Canadiens nuts giving away two stars for a little playoff success, no wonder they never win the cup.

    Just like the Koivu debackle, nobody was going to give Canadiens much for pending free agents so they left in the summer, meanwhile Canadiens picked up players for nothing in return….break even I would say.

    They traded for Gomez a proven winner (2 cups) and gave up a good prospect. Montreal won a couple of rounds and everyone was excited. Then they struggled and never regained their balance. When Mcdonagh became a very good player, some said Gomez for Mcdonagh is he effing nuts.

    Could be the same thing, because hindsight is always perfect.

    That said I like the trade, go for it, but anything less then a Stanley cup or him staying and we know how it will be spun.

    wjc

    • krob1000 says:

      Gomez was July 1 trade….was crazy to make and was intantly beaten down on here by most of us. Was one of the osrt contracts in the game and the NYR should have had to give up the 1st round pick…that was a ridiculous trade from day one. This is a rental…it is what competitive teams have to do…. Habs have shown resilience and I for one still believe we have not seen anywhere near their best hockey yet.
      Some will still spin…as that is what happens on here but a rental is nowhere near the same as Gomez deal…that is up there as one of Glen Sathers best moves ever….fleeced we were.

      Even if Collberg impresses it was a calculated risk and was the going rate and better than past years as market was ripe for buyers. Cammi didn’t even get dealt? probably could have been had for a mid round pick.

    • mrhabby says:

      in 2 years time..i say at least 3 years and you know what that’s a stretch. No one will care in 3 years.

  13. Timo says:

    So being injured and on a shelf for a while, will Gorges still be allowed to Rah-Rah in the dressing room?

  14. Gerry H says:

    Noticed the discussion around taxes below. Did a little checking.

    Top marginal rate in Quebec = 54%

    Top marginal rate in Minnesota = 47%

    Whoever said that it is as low as 20% in some states is full of beans. The Federal top rate in the US is 39% (vs 29% in Canada). The top Minnesota rate is just under 8% (vs 25% in Quebec).

    Seven percent is the difference, tax wise. At $7MM a year, that’s $49k more taxes (deduct a quick $10k for health insurance). Game changer? I think not.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I was just going off what I heard Bobby Dollas (former NHL player) said. I’m no expert by any means! Sorry if I posted any incorrect info?

    • 24 Cups says:

      I think it’s 490,000, not 49,000.

    • Strummer says:

      I’m no tax expert but does comparing top marginal rates tell the whole story as to why or why not it’s more tax advantageous in Quebec or in the U.S.?

      ______________________________________________________
      “It’s just an opinion- I could be wrong”

    • adamkennelly says:

      not sure where you are getting your numbers but I live in the US and no one pays 47% tax. I make plenty of loot and my avg fed tax rate over the last 10 years is no more than 22%. obviously these guys will pay more tax but not that much more.

      my twin bro lives in Canada- he literally pays twice the tax I do on the same salary.

      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        You’re right but things are changing. Taxes will rise in the US due to the deficits and “Affordable Care Act”. They’ll have to, to pay for it all. Gas prices have been steadily climbing all winter too.

        Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

      • Gerry H says:

        The big difference between the US and Canadian income tax systems is in the tax brackets. Our top marginal rate kicks in at under $100k a year. Yours doesn’t until $400k a year. What that means is that truly middle class folks pay a hell of a lot more up here than in the US. But our rich folks are much closer to US taxation levels.

        The numbers are real. There was a huge debate about Obama cancelling the Bush tax cuts and returning the top rate to 39% from around 36%.

        My only mistake was on the grade three arithmetic of 7% of $7 million.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      We are getting a puppy from Minnesota and the breeder just reminded us of the taxes that will be due. Somewhat like Ontario.

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  15. Phil C says:

    If gorges does sit, who draws into the top four?

  16. DipsyDoodler says:

    I dislike the PQ, disagree with most of their policies, and think Marois is unintelligent and probably a bit of a bigot.

    But you really shouldn’t use the b word to describe a female politician.

    —–
    Moving. Forward.

  17. boing007 says:

    Want Beaulieu and Bournival back ASAP. White is Habs best 4th line centre. Keep him there. One more crack with the EGG line? DB AG and TV?

    Richard R

    • aversglay says:

      Agree with everything except Bournival. They can’t bring him back. They just have to many one-way forwards now. But Bournival White and Weise just before the Olympic break were really showing something. Like to see it again (but we will see it again only if there are injuries).

  18. gumper says:

    The article posted below about Gorges indicates the injury was suffered Sat. against the Leafs. I guess that means that when MB picked up Weaver he must have at least had an inkling that Gorges would be out for a while.

    The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane.
    Mark Twain

  19. Maritime Ronn says:

    Hobie Hansen says:
    ….I heard yesterday that an NHL player playing in Quebec loses 50% their salary to taxes. If they live in the States they lose 20%.
    ——-
    Hi Hobie

    Excellent article by Forbes magazine that explains the new 2013-2014 tax situation for NHL players

    Title:
    U.S. Tax Changes Level the Playing Field for Canadian NHL Teams

    …but, ” The only Canadian team that did not benefit from the increased U.S.taxes was Montreal who dropped to the bottom by adding a tax bracket to its table”

    The article also provides a table that gives the projected Net Income for NHL players in each city.

    Ex: A Montreal player earning $ 2.5M is left with $1,273,535 after taxes.
    A player in Alberta would Net $1,542,320.
    That’s $268,775 of more income on a $2.5M salary!

    While it may be hard to believe, Calgary and Edmonton now appear to be the best NHL tax havens after all the new taxes imposed on US citizens came into effect.

    And not to forget, is that all NHL salaries are payed in USD regardless of what city the player plays.

    Hope that helps.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2013/10/01/u-s-tax-changes-level-the-playing-field-for-canadian-nhl-teams/

  20. Timo says:

    Was watching 5 a 7 on RDS yesterday and they had top 10 text message Danny Briere would send to Vanek (a-la Letterman). About half of them were how Vanek would play on 4th line with Briere no matter how many goals he scored. I thought it was funny.

  21. HabinBurlington says:

    Not sure what this is reflective of, but seems to me in years past when most people posted line combo’s it was by using jersey numbers and not names.

  22. JaggerHope says:

    Here are my *suggested* lines for tonight;
    Galchenyuk Pleakanec Vanek
    Pacioretty Desharnais Gallagher
    Briere Eller Gionta
    Moen/Weese White Bourque

    – When Prust comes back from injury, he will be able to replace Moen or Weese on the 4th line, and when Bournival comes back he can either replace White or Bourque, but if both are playing well he’s a great 13th forward.

    • Ron says:

      Its been years since there have been so many available 4th liners on the Habs. Going to be a difficult time for MT to insert players here and there. With the roster limit gone it maybe easier. Gave up on Habs7 I see.

  23. Hobie Hansen says:

    Douglas Murray: -12
    Jason Spezza: -24

  24. shiram says:

    If you can’t beat the goalie, break his glove!

    http://i.imgur.com/S7BSCt7.gif

  25. Paz says:

    So here’s my conspiracy theory, with a few facts thrown in for good measure.

    Bergevin believes you can never have enough NHL defencemen, fact

    Bergevin is still close to Dale Tallon, fact

    Bergevin gave away our 7th round pick to Florida last year, mysteriously, and for no return, fact

    Bergeron and Talon knew that Talon owed the Habs a favor, implied fact

    Weaver declared to the media that Bergevin had showed interest in him earlier in the season, fact

    Bergevin found out about Gorges hand and called in the favor from Talon to get Weaver

  26. Timo says:

    Everyone is so happy today. I don;t like that.

  27. DelawareHab says:

    OK here is my suggested forward line-up. I know it may likely ruffle a few but now’s as good a time as any to try something out before we get too late in the season. It’s all about preparing for playoffs with at 3 scoring lines.
    Pacioretty-Desharnais-Briere : Plekanec-Gionta-Vanek : Gallagher-Eller-Galchenyuk : Weise-White-Moen

    • Timo says:

      If you take Gallagher off DD line that line dies. He is the player that creates space for Patches and DD by wrecking havoc in front of the net. Briere won’t be able to do that, neither will the other two. That line must stay intact in order to function. I’d be tempted to try Vanek with Eller and Galchenyuk and leave Plekanec line alone.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Oh crap, you and I are starting to agree on things….. Apocalypse is upon us.

      • Le Jadester says:

        Good call.
        I’ve always thought that Gio-Plex-Briere is a good line.
        I’d like to see that too !
        Vanek-Eller-Chucky

        I guess that makes for a bit of a log jam on the 4th line ?

        Habs, OLE !

      • DelawareHab says:

        I agree Gallagher is a sparkplug, but he will be one on any line. Notice that if it is four on four you always see DD with MP out there. That is where the chemistry is. Give Briere a chance to prove his late season / playoff worth like he has done in the past with Philly. every year he came up big late season and playoffs. The EGG line was successful through to when they broke them up. No doubt Vanek on the other line will create that big threat as well. If Briere doesn’t work out go to Bourque (or better Prust when he gets back).

  28. JF says:

    That was a gutsy win last night. The team could easily have been deflated by blowing their two-goal lead, and the fluke goal could have caused Tokarski to lose focus. Instead, they just kept plugging away. Gallagher’s late second-period tying goal is exactly the kind of hard-working, net-crashing goal we need to score more of. The effort on that goal made me really hope we could win the game.

    It was a good night for Dustin Tokarski, despite his error in going behind the net (he said afterwards that there was a scouting report about the boards in Anaheim, so he should have known not to). Backing up our backup, he gets the win against the top team in the NHL. It must be huge for him.

    Amazing how the furor over David Desharnais and his contract has completely died down in the last two or three months. He is unquestionably our top offensive centre at the moment, with great vision and creatvity. Since his early-season slump, he’s been putting up close to a point per game. Last night was another great game for him, with that beautiful pass to Pacioretty for our second goal, as well as his key role in Gallagher’s game-tying goal – not to mention scoring in the shootout, making his total this season five out of six. As I remarked a couple of weeks ago, I’m beginning to question the received wisdom on HIO that he is not a top centre on a contending team.

    Something else I question is that Michel Therrien is not a good coach. The bias against him must be partially rooted in what happened in his first stint as Habs coach, otherwise it’s inexplicable. It’s true that some of his decisions seem questionable, but he has a winning record, the players certainly seem to be buying into what he’s trying to do, and occasionally he comes up with something that is absolutely inspired.

    I’m so thrilled about Vanek. I really wasn’t expecting Bergevin to do more than make a couple of depth moves. But he’s given the players a huge vote of confidence and sent the message that the Habs could do serious damage in the playoffs. With Price’s play and the acquisition of Vanek, it becomes not unrealistic to dream of winning the East.

    • krob1000 says:

      I am definitely in the Eller, Briere or Chucky could be putting up similar numbers in DD role camp….that being said he has been fantastic of late. I posted as much after last nights game…he was great. He is now driving with the puck towards the net more, shooting sometimes and creating new options (he had become like Gomez where everyone took away his options).

      He has taken a page out of the Gally handbook and it is paying dividends. He is lethal in the shootout (kinds of makes you wonder why he doesn’t drive the net more)…he has great hands and can handle the puck in traffic.

      I still maintain that if anyone of the three guys I mentioned (or Pleks) were in that role they would produce similarly….and down the road other issues come about.
      Right now though…DD is outplaying all of the guys I mentioned … so might as well ride the wave and give him Vanek IMO. Like Eller or Briere he would struggle to produce with lesser wingers and without pp time but who cares right now he is flying!

      Gallagher was lights out again…he just never stops giving it is all and never cheats a play anywhere ont he ice…he never takes anything for granted and pursues causing people to mess up…often guys back off assuming opposition willmake a play…he never assumes anything but an attacking posture.

      DD as a top cener needs a ton of support and all of the ozone starts and 1st pp minutes…but…as long as he plays like he has of late…then so be it…let him do it. Long term…whole other ball game….he ends up being the guy inthe way when you look ahead but right now after th Vanek acquisition,etc…I want to look inthe now..

      I also like they have moved him occasionally to right side of pp…forces him to move to create lanes….forcing his hand not allowing him to just stand stilla nd pass…that is when he gets into trouble.

      • JF says:

        I doubt Chucky is ready yet for the role Desharnais plays and I’m not sure about Brière, but I disagree about Eller. I haven’t seen from him the kind of creativity DD shows; he sometimes seems not to know what to do with the puck or to hold onto it too long and try to do too much himself. I’m a huge Eller fan (when I heard about Vanek, I was afraid the return was Eller), but I’m not sure he has a ton of offensive talent. Defensively he’s great, so a third-line defensive centre might be his ceiling.

        • krob1000 says:

          THis is what I don’t get about people when talking aobut Eller…they forget he outplayed DD offensively all of last season…and for the first quarter of this one. He prodcued at similar rate when in similar role. How can people keep insisting they have not seen anything offensive out of Eller? Was nobody watching for last season and the first 20 games this season? I disagree completely about CHucky and BRiere…neither has had any consistency…only center on team that has had consistency is DD and that line….and it shows. Even PLeks/Gio have a rotating LW, Dd line is set in stone and that is a huge advantage…along with top o zone starts, top pp,etc. They made tons of mistakes together early but have developed a great chemistry but I have seen last year and this year that Eller and the others are capable. Dd playing great but thi sisn;t exaclt ymade up stuff about Eller …he as done it already…and so too have CHucky and BRiere in other markets. Their even strength points are still very close to DD…even at this point. I don’t want to get into knocking DD but how people discount Ellers apporx 75 games at Dd rate yet praise DD’s last 40 games and ignore other factors has me doing the questioning of the commentariat.

  29. Chrisadiens says:

    Not a sure if this was posted yet but apparently MT was quoted after the game saying, “We didn’t tell Tokarski he was starting until Weds morning. We wanted him to actually sleep the night before.”

    Thought it was pretty funny.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  30. Mattyleg says:

    No other takers on my Mcguire below?
    I though it was pretty good…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  31. CJ says:

    As if last night couldn’t have gotten much better, there are rumblings out of Ottawa that Bobby Ryan might want out. He played three minutes in the first and was stapled to the bench as Neil and Zack Smith got ice time. This is exactly what happened in Anaheim. Now, having given up their first rounder from two seasons ago, their first rounder this season and Silferberg, there are some serious questions being asked.

    Last season’s coach of the year is rumoured to have lost the room. Based on their play last night, I’d say that’s likely very true. Further, Melnyk made a number of promise at season ticket holder events, within the press, and during the Ottawa business chamber event (Cyril Leader) that the team was committed to winning now. Everyone in the city expected them to make significant deals, based on what Melnyk had said, then they fall flat coming out of the break and do nothing.

    That’s a long way of saying I couldn’t be happier!

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      This is exactly what I said last summer. Everyone here had Ottawa finishing second to Boston. I thought the walrus was a hack who got lucky with unsustainable goaltending and that they way overpaid for Ryan.

      —–
      Moving. Forward.

      • CJ says:

        I must admit I thought they were going to be much better. Maybe it’s only because they’ve become a thorn in my side, but they always worry me. Perhaps my fears were entirely unjustified. They just seem to get so much puck luck against Montreal. Additionally, and I hate to be this guy, but they also seem to benefit from the officiating.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Your gonna have Mavid all giddy reading that, even if her birthday was yesterday, that is still going to read like a present to her!

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Now that TSN 690 Montreal comes in crystal clear in Ottawa for my drive to work I’m never really hearing the Sens news. I visit this site, watch RDS most of the time…

      But ya, the more the Sens fail the happier I am.

      • CJ says:

        I didn’t see it, but a buddy who is a Sens fan said the interview with Bobby Ryan following the game was brutal. People hate Brian Burke, but was he wrong with what he said about Ryan?

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          I just walked over a few rows and talked to the Sens fans. They pretty much echoed what you said.

          I also mentioned: No Price, No Vanek and Habs beat the best team in the league while the Sens lost to Calgary lol!

    • Paz says:

      Bobby Ryan has crazy skills. I would have made that trade in a second.

      The Walrus can go fruck himself.

    • Strummer says:

      Bobby Ryan?
      Oh you must mean “Player 6″

      ______________________________________________________
      “It’s just an opinion- I could be wrong”

    • Rad says:

      Acquiring Ales Hemsky is an under-rated coup for Ottawa, especially if he re-signs with them. Hemsky is still a great player, a game-breaker, and still only 30. I was secretly hoping we would land him, though Vanek is bigger and more durable.

    • JUST ME says:

      Personnaly i thought that they paid a hefty price for Ryan because that team got results from a culture of team involvement and not from stardom status. Furthermore you cannot expect to tear out the heart from a team (Alfie) and not expect to have an in between period when a real leadership is shown by example. Spezza for me just does not fit in that role.

      Ottawa in my book is the perfect example of the citation : never as good as you think ,never as bad as you look (or something like that). They are a very average team like many others and hangs on because of the so called parity.

  32. 24 Cups says:

    Still think Gillis should keep his job? Take a look at this. I wonder why the team didn’t contemplate an amnesty buyout instead of a trade for spare parts plus this mess.

    https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/440982011251945472/photo/1

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Steve did you hear Kesler’s interview after the deadline yesterday? Pretty evident I think he wants out of dodge in a big way. Essentially joking that Luongo told him even if you want out you will still be here after the deadline. That isn’t very positive having a leader like Kesler joking about such a topic.

      That place is toxic right now I am sure.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        Two words.

        Torto.

        Rella.

        —–
        Moving. Forward.

      • Mattyleg says:

        I wonder when the NHL’s Great Tortorella Experiment will finally end.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • 24 Cups says:

        Gerry – I did see that. Kesler made no bones about it. This is also the guy who signed a RFA offer sheet from Philadelphia five years ago. Not to mention being an American who want to go back home.

        Vancouver is now officially a mess. Not to mention that the Sedins are down for four more years at 7M a season (each)

  33. AceTen says:

    Don’t look now but the Habs are currently sitting 8th overall in the league, 3rd in the Eastern conference. That’s even with no Vanek all season and no Price for the last 2 weeks.

  34. Marcusman says:

    Someone may have already posted this..but I found it this morning while looking up some of our prospects….

    http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2013/11/28/5155144/habs-prospect-connor-crisp-demolishes-sergey-tolchinsky

  35. jrs10069 says:

    Could the Habs win the Cup now that they have added Vanek?

    If he gels I think they could..

    Agree with a previous post, team looked very “together” during last night’s shootout. If they could get Bourque and Eller going, could be very hard to beat.

    jrs10069

  36. Hobie Hansen says:

    I heard yesterday that an NHL player playing in Quebec loses 50% their salary to taxes. If they live in the States they lose 20%. We’re talking millions of dollars lost by playing in Quebec. Plus the crazy media….

    I’m not trying to be negative but that’s a huge reason not to play for the Montreal Candadiens.

  37. HabinBurlington says:

    So it appears the trade for Weaver was precipitated by the Gorges injury. In that vain, replacing the slight figured Gorges with the shorter but perhaps bigger hitting Gary Wright this move makes even more sense. Very very similar styled players, both undrafted into the NHL, both undersized given the style of game they play, both shot blockers extraordinaire, both living the DreamWeaver lifestyle of the NHL despite not being expected to.

    Looks like a pretty prudent move on our GM’s part.

    Timo must be hating all this…..

  38. SnowManHabs85 says:

    Man, I hope Vanek signs with Habs. I don’t see anything wrong with why Vanek wouldn’t sign here. We have the building blocks, young forwards making their marks in the league, Norris winner defensemen, elite olympian goaltender, state of the art team training facilities and the best fans in the world.

    If keeping Vanek would cost us 8m per year, then do it! How many years Habs been looking for that goal scorer? We finally got the player! Galchenyuk – Plekanec – Vanek. We got the 3 Kings (except for Pleky with “c” at the end of his name) :P

  39. Ian Cobb says:

    I am taking one of my sons to the game against Boston on Wed. for his birthday. Vanek will be playing with ?

    Who from HIO can we have a brew with at Hurley’s ?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Matty will be there, don’t wear an Eller jersey you will have beer thrown on it. :)

    • PureGuava says:

      Option 1: Bourque – Briere – Vanek
      Option 2: Briere – Galchenyuk – Vanek
      Option 3: Briere/Bouque/Galchenyuk – Eller – Vanek

      I’m happy with him anywhere, but would venture a guess that he lines up with Briere tonight – maybe Moen draws in with them for some grit.

      “Of course I’m crazy, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.”
      – Robert Anton Wilson

  40. Old Bald Bird says:

    With the thinking that Vanek’s preference is to return to Minnesota, I find myself a little disappointed that Montrealers and Quebecers don’t seem as attached to their former home territory. I am thinking specifically of Lecavalier as well as the younger Briere, but no one seems to be exactly chomping at the bit to return.

    • habsfan0 says:

      Being a homeboy and playing in front of the most fanatical,demanding,astute fans in the NHL is something that not all are cut out for.

    • Strummer says:

      Family issues come into play as well.
      Ask Marty St. Louis or even Chris Pronger when he played in Edmonton..
      There’s also taxes and language.
      When Carbo first came back from Dallas, his daughter couldn’t attend an English high school which would have been his preference.

      ______________________________________________________
      “It’s just an opinion- I could be wrong”

    • Cal says:

      Looking at the political situation, the crumbling infrastructure, the economy, the draconian language laws and now their bs Racist Value Charter (I call it as I see it), it’s a wonder anyone stays. But aren’t the festivals grand?

    • Phil C says:

      Vanek’s wife is attached to Minnesota. Kovalchuk gets a Russian popstar wife and all of a sudden he wants to go to the KHL. Prust gets a girlfriend from Montreal and all of a sudden he wants to sign with the Habs long term.

      If Montreal wants to sign more free agents, maybe they need to change their recruiting policies, if you know what I mean.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      In Montreal they would be more scrutinized than any other city. In Vinny’s case he got to live in a beautiful warm climate, get mega bucks and not have to worry about his privacy. Or he could sign in Montreal and get harassed by the media & fans and be under a microscope. I wonder where I would rather play… easy choice.

      I do think player who play in the insane hockey markets should get paid more or compensated in some way. They are the ones that drive the revenue and the players have much more demanded of them off ice

      “Lets Go Canada”

    • ont fan says:

      Vanek is testing the market. How does everyone believe he is dieing to go to Minnesota. If they wanted him he would be there now. A lot has to happen to get to that place. Maybe he plays like a dog for the Habs? Relax and enjoy the ride.

  41. Storman says:

    Off hockey topic,, anyone having trouble with freezing and crashes of latest version of Mozilla 27.0.1,

    Also looking for input reviews good or bad on Bell Fibe. Dealing with Bell sales on technical questions is as useless as explaining there ridiculous billing practices.. deciding whether to leave Satellite for Fibe if they have had enough time to work out most of the kinks.

  42. shiram says:

    Getting Vanek had to have to a great effect in the locker room.
    Even if one guy is likely going to get reduced minutes, they now know their GM has confidence enough in them to make a move that improves directly an area of need.

    I liked the game last night, though I did not stay up to watch all of it.
    Tokarski looked ok, not great but that was a helluva test for him, and he came out with the win.

    Here’s a gif of Pleky’s shootout attempt, check the bench reaction afterwards, gotta like that emotion.

    http://gfycat.com/SmallVariableHerald

    in fact, have a whole bunch of gifs!
    http://imgur.com/a/3FrPz

    DD and Brière’s goal look very similar.

  43. Fansince1984 says:

    First Post On Here But After that Trade Had to Put my 2 cents in on Where Vanek Should Slot in the Lineup. Personally I would like to See these Line Combos:

    Pacman DD Gallagher
    Vanek Eller Galchenyuk
    Briere Plekanec Gionta
    Bourque Prust Weisse

    In no Particular order in regards to the first three lines I think you can interchange gionta and Vanek at any given time!

    Lord Stanley or Bust!

  44. DipsyDoodler says:

    One of the constant criticisms about Therrien is that he makes and breaks players. He has broken Eller and PK, but he also “made” DD (something to do with Molson wanting to sell beer to the French-Canadians – it’s sometimes hard to follow the logic).

    To read the criticisms, Therrien is Mephisto, with the ability to turn a scorer into a plug, and similarly to take a guy who shouldn’t be in the league and turn him into a point per game player.

    The ruining players anyone could probably do (Hello Torts), but if he can do the second thing, then surely these magical powers should be harnessed to win a Stanley Cup.

    What does he want?

    Is it just a matter of a few souls?

    —–
    Moving. Forward.

  45. 24 Cups says:

    In terms of the Hab roster issues, I thought in the past there was a date where you could eventually go over the limit at some point once the trade deadline was over. I’m not sure. If not, and the entire team was healthy, Montreal would have to move three players to get down to the 23 man limit.

    http://www.capgeek.com/canadiens/depth-chart/

    The easiest move would be to send Bournival to Hamilton. It’s not like he would see much ice time in the playoffs. As someone mentioned, it might even be prudent to shut him down for the summer in light of his concussion. Let him have a full recovery.

    That leaves one of Bouillon or Tinordi and George Parros. Parros won’t dress for the playoffs anyway and Bouillon makes the most sense on the D, even if that is a heart wrenching decision for management. Both Parros and Bouillon would have to pass waivers.

    All in all, I don’t see it being a big deal.

    • CJ says:

      Following the deadline there is no longer a cap on roster size. We can have 50 players under contract so conventional wisdom suggests you could carry up to 50 players right now, provided they fit under the salary cap. We are fine.

    • Phil C says:

      http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26377

      23-man Roster
      There may be a maximum of 23 players on each Club’s playing roster at any one time from the commencement of the NHL regular season through the trade deadline. Prior to the start of the season, each Club must submit to the NHL its “Opening Day Playing Roster” which shall be comprised of not more than 23 players. Each Club must have a roster of at least 20 players, composed of 18 skaters and two goaltenders. Players on Injured Reserve do not count in the 23-man limit.

  46. krob1000 says:

    I just noticed BRere only got 12 shfts last night…less than anyone except Parros….will he back in lineup tonight?

    • CJ says:

      Based on their play, Briere, Bourque and Parros are most likely to sit. Bourque was the best of the three. Therien did big George a favor playing him against his former squad. This is likely a swan song for number 15. I’m sure he’s soaking it all in.

      In fact, along with Gionta, these are the three candidates most likely not to be a part of this organization going forward (next season).

  47. Chrisadiens says:

    I hate to be “that guy” but I cant seem to find the video of Vanek when he heard the news he was traded to MTL. Some say he was less than enthusiastic, I’d like to judge for myself. Any help is appreciated!

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

    • 24 Cups says:

      I saw the video. BTW, I don’t put much credence into what players say at a time like this. It’s usually just the party line and numerous clichés.

      In Vanek’s case, he spoke about how tough it was to play against Montreal and how great the fans were. It was always an “up” game when playing the Habs.

      He also spoke about how he was looking forward to becoming a UFA as it was his one chance to go through that experience.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      He will test free agency and he also commented that he is happy to play with a team that has a goalie like Carey Price. I look at this way….regardless if he resigns or not we get a chance to see what a legit top 6 scorer will add to this line up and it will help the management gauge where this team really is. We have been short a legit scorer since Cammy Left and Cammy was really less than impressive other than the one playoff run. His regular seasons left a lot to be desired.

      “Lets Go Canada”

  48. Marcusman says:

    So now that the trade deadline has passed, how many players are we allowed on the roster?

  49. Habitoban says:

    Seems to me that, unlike life under the Count, this team doesn’t wilt in the 3rd period on tough road trips or after back-to-back games. Somebody deserves some credit for their improved conditioning or improved motivation, or both. Or, maybe I’m seeing the world through Vanek-coloured glasses.

  50. AliHaba says:

    So when everyone is back and healthy we’ll have the following:-
    Forwards—Desharnais, Pacioretty, Gallagher, Plekanec, Gionta, Galchenyuk, Vanek, Briere, Bourque, Eller, Weise, White, Moen, Parros, Prust, Bournival (16)
    Defence—Markov, Subban, Emelin, Gorges, Murray, Tinordi, Weaver (7)
    Goal—Price, Budaj (2)
    That’s 25 hopefully healthy bodies. Correct me if I’m wrong but each team is allowed to carry 23. What do they do with the 2 extras? Bournival could be sent down I suppose and that would look after one spot. I’m looking for answers. Please help me out here.

  51. Prop says:

    My prediction…

    Vanek goes to where the dollar signs are.

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  52. krob1000 says:

    1st order of business in Montreal should be pampering Mrs. Vanek….spa day, nanny? in home bilingual tutor? trip downtown with a CH cred card. The weather shouldn’t be an issue if from Minny but ….this is time for the HABs wives to step up to the plate too! Welcome her with open arms…hug her and do not let her go!!!

  53. Phil C says:

    This has probably already been mentioned, but did you see how engaged the players were in the shootout last night? This is an intangible effect of the Vanek pick up – the GM has sent a message that he believes in the team and the players seem energized as a result. This gives a great emotional boost to the team. If Vanek can also have an impact on the ice, and the team can arrive at the end of the season healthy with a team that believes in itself, it could be entertaining to watch.

    • mdp2011 says:

      Absolutely spot on. That is why trading Markov would have been a huge blow, both on ice and in the room. It would have sent a negative message to the players, especially those with long term deals.

  54. CJ says:

    Regarding McGuire’s comments concerning where Vanek might sign, or perhaps more importantly, where he won’t sign, he is discounting one significant advantage that Montreal now holds. Per the new collective agreement, Montreal is the only team that can offer Vanek 8 years. I’m NOT suggesting we should do it, but I think it’s a variable that needs to be weighed before suggesting that there is zero chance he is willing to sign anywhere other then Minnesota. Money talks.

    I regard this as a pure rental. As noted below, there are significant waves that it sends around the league. Firstly, Montreal wants to win. Attention all UFA’s…you want a chance to win, Montreal needs to be a destination at or near the top of your list. It sends a message to the guys in the dressing room. Boys, we believe in you and are going to take a shot. Lastly, it sends a message to the fanbase. Bergevin is in charge and has a plan. Those moves, up and down from Hamilton all season spared the cap space needed to make this deal. It tells me the management team is prudent, organized and on point.

    As noted earlier, our team is far from perfect, but compared to where we were last season, I can honestly say that we are much further ahead as an organization, from top to bottom.

    Just my two cents…. Cheers, CJ

    • krob1000 says:

      The cap room they have been working to create is what had me thinking all along they would be a plyer…when 3pm rolled around I was pretty disappointed…I then saw an email my boss sent saying HAbs got Vanek…was ectsatic..checked to see the cost expecting the worst…was even more ecstatic!!

    • krob1000 says:

      The cap room they have been working to create is what had me thinking all along they would be a plyer…when 3pm rolled around I was pretty disappointed…I then saw an email my boss sent saying HAbs got Vanek…was ectsatic..checked to see the cost expecting the worst…was even more ecstatic!!

  55. krob1000 says:

    So…just to be clear…96 percent of people are supportive of this rental…me I am 110 precent behind it.
    However, if you had sasked this questiona week ago 96 percent of people on here were saying stay pat, build through thedraft,etc….team just spent prety heavily (got a deal for what theygot…but still gave up 2 2n rders which has driven many crazy in past).
    I am glad because like MT said I think this is a vote of confidence to the guys…has to mean something to guys like Markov. Trying to do waht is necessary to compete is essential and standing pat must have been fruistrating in apst years while watching competition around you get stronger. I think MB learned a serious lesson last year nad then adapted fantastically…the team is deep….super deep.

    I ma extremely excited about Vanek if only as a rental! and so is everyone now that he is here…but it MB got noone many would have supported the “build through te draft” and “don;t treade picks” mantra…..well done MB…regardless of how it turns out that deal is great!!

  56. Maritime Ronn says:

    Here’s hoping Vanek does well in Montreal and if so, gets to like the city and considers it a landing spot.
    From now until July 1st, let’s enjoy the ride…

    Some have him already penciled in the Minnesota lineup for the 2014-15 season because he played his HS hockey in Sioux Falls SD, and his college hockey at U. of Minnesota – and because his wife is also from there, and their off season home is also in the region.

    All compelling reasons for sure.

    That being mentioned, look at Phil Kessel.
    Many were totally convinced that the Wisconsin born, U of Minnesota Phil Kessel would play out his Leafs contract this year, become a UFA, and go back to Minnesota – the region where both him and his wife come from.

    The ‘experts’ were convinced the shy Kessel – who thoroughly dislikes the media spotlight/attention, couldn’t wait to go home…..

    So what does he do?
    He signs an 8 year extension with the Leafs.

    No one really knows what’s going to happen with Vanek.
    He may really enjoy Montreal and playing for the Habs..or may not.

    • 24 Cups says:

      The Habs will have the advantage of offering an 8 year deal, while any other team can only go 7. Not that I would ever consider giving a guy like Vanek an 8 year deal. Or 7 for that matter.

  57. habsfan0 says:

    I’d like to see Vanek on a line with Lars Eller.
    I have a hunch Eller’s true capabilities would become very apparent.

    • Mattyleg says:

      The way Eller’s been playing, I have a hunch Vanek would be counting the days before he can get to Minnesota.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • habsfan0 says:

        Guy Lafleur didn’t look very good his first three seasons.
        And then…
        Not that I’m suggesting that Lars Eller is another Guy Lafleur.

        • Mattyleg says:

          Nor am I saying that Eller is a lost cause, but maybe if Larry pulls up his socks, he can play himself onto Vanek’s line.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

  58. Sportfan says:

    People are saying Gorges will be out for two weeks because of a fracture, that sucks also I think we see weaver tonight. Any news on Carey anyone?

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  59. Luke says:

    Vanek’s first game in Montreal will be against the Bruins on Wednesday.

    That’ll be a good introduction to the electric atmosphere…

    • Sportfan says:

      Like Boone said yesterday two teams he’s great against Boston and Toronto.

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    • adamkennelly says:

      from Dave Stubbs twitter

      Thomas Vanek’s 1st home game for #Habs will be next Wednesday vs #Bruins. Lifetime vs Boston: 53 GP, 30G, 31A, +21 #HabsIO

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      My old man is in Florida and returning the night before that Bruins game. He probably doesn’t know about the Vanek trade. He’s coming over to watch that Bruins game…CAN”T WAIT!!!!

      • adamkennelly says:

        If Tommy V produces for the Habs the way he has produced to date against the Habs – we are going to be treated to quite a few more goals.

    • Mattyleg says:

      I’ll be there.
      That ought to be exciting.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Wow, nice Matty. I’ve been to many Habs/Leafs games but haven’t been to A Bruins/Habs game since the days of the old Forum, when I was a little snot nosed punk!

        • Mattyleg says:

          Yeah, I haven’t been to a Boston game ever.

          I actually (strangely) haven’t been looking forward to it because I’m worried about what it might do to my heart… too intense…

          But now that I get to see Vanek for the first time, it’s cheered me up!

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Crap, our record with you in attendance isn’t overwhelming. Thinking only of your heart, perhaps you could pass those tickets on to someone else. I think the team has a pretty good record with L Elle in attendance.

  60. dano58 says:

    GO HABS GO!!!

    The first creative thing M/T has done as coach this season putting Markov on shootout but he did use Plexs as well so jury still out on him and hopefully M/B tells him to use Vanek in an exploited role so we maximize our trade value and get more bang for our buck.

    “Always looking to better my team as long as it’s in the image of myself so I can re-live my career through my trades of d-men”-M/B

  61. Sportfan says:

    I feel like the Vanek trade is something you see in a video game

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    • Phil C says:

      It was a strange confluence of events. Deadline ticking down and only a few teams with the cap space to get him. Habs management were very opportunistic.

  62. 24 Cups says:

    I thought it might be interesting to compare how the Eastern teams did in terms of upgrading at the deadline. I’m only talking about the here and now – not any ramifications for the future in terms of picks or free agent losses.

    Pittsburgh – Goc and Stempniak in / major injury woes
    Boston – Meszaros in / no departures
    Montreal – Vanek and Weaver in / no departures
    Toronto – no movements
    Tampa – Callahan & Stamkos in / St Louis out
    Philadelphia – MacDonald in / Meszaros out
    NYR – St Louis in / Callahan out
    Columbus – Schultz in / Murray injured
    Detroit – Legwand in / major injuries woes
    Washington – Penner. Halak. Kuznetsov in / Neuvirth out
    New Jersey – Ruutu in / no departures
    Ottawa – Hemsky in / no departures

    I’ll leave it others to decide which teams improved or lost ground at the deadline but I think Montreal, the Rangers and Washington had the best upgrades.

  63. Captain aHab says:

    The other added benefit is that if the forwards score a bit more, maybe Subban goes back to playing within himself and not try to do too much.

    And if the PP starts firing, then our smaller players may take less of a beating.

    —————-
    Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

  64. Mattyleg says:

    Tommy Vanek?

    Oh yeah.

    Was over at his grandmother’s house for a big family dinner last week, and we were all sharing memories about Mario (I had the most memories), and Tommy says to me, “what do you think about me going to Montreal?” and I says, I says, “Tommy, you couldn’t pick a better place to go. If I was GM there – and I will be – I’d sign you in a heartbeat. Because you’re a really, really good person, and you ask excellent questions.”

    Garthy calls me up yesterday, and says “hey, who’s been putting these Montreal thoughts in Tommy’s head?” I had to laugh, even though it was a really, really good question, and I says “I don’t know, Garthy.”

    Truth is, I was watching an Atom hockey tournament in Burnt River two days ago, with Jacey Pominville’s uncle Willy (great, great guy – ask him about ice-fishing, never met someone who knows more about the different types of char than Willy Pominville) who said that Minnesota wasn’t doing so great and could use some Tommy Vanek rumours to get the fanbase stirring.

    So I says to Garthy, “hey, maybe you can get him interested in Minnesota – his wife is from there.” Shirley, great, great, great human being, person, woman, and spirit.

    So there you have it; Tommy Vanek to Minnesota. It’s a done deal.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  65. krob1000 says:

    http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/call-of-the-wilde-thomas-vanek-hell-yeah-1.1716234

    “Michel Therrien says he has a special plan for Vanek, but will not reveal it until he has a chance to talk to the Austrian when he arrives in Phoenix tomorrow for the Habs third game on their four game western swing”.

    Read more: http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/call-of-the-wilde-thomas-vanek-hell-yeah-1.1716234#ixzz2vC71GqrM

    • HabinBurlington says:

      While I hadn’t yet given up on Collberg, I too am very very relieved that it wasn’t De laRose who they traded. His upside seems better than Collberg.

      Also beyond relieved that neither Beaulieu or Tinordi were involved.

      • krob1000 says:

        ME too…Collberg still may become something but he is not physically strong enough yet to play witht he big boys…could be years before heis redy…if at all…but to be honest I liked waht I saw in the World Juniors and think he will be an NHLer…but Montreal has plenty of guys like him.

        • Paz says:

          Colberg looked good in the juniors but he looked slow in our camp (knee injury), went back to Sweden and did not play, did not play well, did not score. This was cause for concern.

          Of course the Islanders should have taken Andrighetto I think. ( is he currently injured?) At least he would be in their lineup next season.

          And if they were going European, De laRose is way ahead of Colberg and so is Lehkonen.

          Colberg is drifting sideways in his development while the others are still steaming forward.

          • krob1000 says:

            Could go either way ..on one hand he isn’t getting a chance to dominate…but at the same time he is learning the game against men sooner..sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn’t.

      • Phil C says:

        This deadline move is an example of why it is important to build through the draft and have many prospects in the system. Could Montreal have made this deal without also having De La Rose and Lehkonen in the system? I don’t think they could. Depth = trades and flexibility.

  66. HabinBurlington says:

    How happy is John Tavares these days that he signed that long term extension?

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      He’s probably alright with. The whole team is leaving the Island soon and he’ll be the big feeesh in NYC. Plus rumour has it, he’s being paid pretty well.

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I can’t see how he is alright with watching his team get worse not better. I think you may be misjudging his character. He strikes me as competitive.

        • Thomas Le Fan says:

          Are you saying the Isles were competitive until yesterday? They are rebuilding … again. Tavares is the core they will build around and he’s getting paid very handsomely for that. Who wouldn’t be okay with that? Well, I’d cry myself to sleep every night dreaming of Minnesota but that’s just me. ;)

          Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

          • DipsyDoodler says:

            Problem is the guy who is doing the rebuilding isn’t exactly trustworthy.

            —–
            Moving. Forward.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            To follow up on Dipsy’s point, Snow isn’t making moves that show a positive rebuild. That is the crux of the issue on Long Island right now.

    • Captain aHab says:

      Reway and a fourth….do it Garth!

      —————-
      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      he’ll be the next big acquisition from our formidable GM…..bring that to the bank and cash it baby!

      Shaker out

    • Sportfan says:

      Maaybe we can trade Bourque, Leblance, two conditional picks Briere for Tavares!

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  67. adamkennelly says:

    we have too many forwards – way too many….who sits most nights?

    Parros for sure and who else?

    • jimmy shaker says:

      I’ve been over this numerous times as well…..I’ve got bourque, parros, weise sitting……although prust, moen, white and wiese all could interchange on the fourth line. And bournival going back to hamilton with tinordi because of weaver.

      Shaker out!

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      NHL, not AHL depth to cover injuries

  68. Thomas Le Fan says:

    The next person who says Vanek IS going to Minnesota with absolute confidence better be Thomas Vanek or please just take your Pierre McGuire crystal ball and go play with yourself. Everybody knows squat. Enjoy the moment. Que sera sera. Go Habs!

    Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

    • Mattyleg says:

      Thank you.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Captain aHab says:

      But but but Pierre knows Vanek’s exact shoe size and who his niece is currently dating. No one is better qualified.

      —————-
      Me skull and crossbones arn’t the only thing I plan on raisin’ tonight.

    • Phil C says:

      I go by Thomas Vanek. He says he will test free agency. I tend to believe him.

      But I agree, who cares, this move is about this season, not next season.

      • Mattyleg says:

        He did say that when he was, like the characters in ‘Lost’, trapped on The Island.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Phil C says:

          You’re right, anything can happen. Minnesota might not want him, they may give the money to Moulson, then Montreal would be there with their arms and wallets open. Assuming the Habs would want him, we haven’t even seen him play yet.

          • Thomas Le Fan says:

            There’s that.

            Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

    • krob1000 says:

      That is clearly where he wants to go….. he played hoceky there in school, his wife is from there and he lives there in offseason….he will not turn down millions tos tay there and perhaps MInny willnot want him (already slapped him in face IMO by trading siliar value for Moulson instead…who they will likely be able to offer less money to) but to think Minny is not the frontrunner is completely naive.

      OF course nobody is certain….I think most of us are just preparing ourselves so we are not disappointed if he goes….IMO they paid rental price so if he goes, he goes….be great if he stays even better. There is no denying the impact of the family on any free agency…it is huge…in some cases more impoortant than the money…so there is a lot leading to him wanting to go to MInny…but it has to be mutual, they already have some big contracts,they just traded for Moulson instead,etc…..

      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        He’s ours for the time being and I just hope he doesn’t suck and make us wish he’d gone to Minnesota … sooner.

        Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  69. AceTen says:

    So last night we beat the best team in the league without Eller, our leading scorer and our third string goalie in the net.

  70. petefleet says:

    Yesterday’s phone call between Vanek and The Great 8:

    Hello Alex?
    Yes, who is this?
    It’s Vanek. I just got traded to MTL.
    Oh, congrats…I always wanted to play for an original six team but alas I don’t think it will ever happen. What can I do for you?
    I was wondering how you feel about a left winger playing on the right wing?
    Well, I have to admit I didn’t like it at first. I actually threw a temper tantrum and was mad at my coach, Oates. I thought what would he know about where I should play? Turns out his reasoning for putting me on the right side was not flawed at all. More touches on the right side…no sh*t.
    Really? I’ve always played on the left and am very comfortable there. I’ve scored a lot of goals over there.
    I’m telling you Vanek, I made the switch and once I stopped sooking, I am able to score at will. I am on pace for one of my best years….on the right side. Give it a chance, I did.
    Well Ovy, I would be playing with another 30+ scorer on the left and a pretty good little centre. Maybe I will and if it works, maybe I’ll sign in the summer.
    Just give it a chance man, that’s what I did. Avoid the sooking stage at all costs.
    Thanks Alex, have a good trophy presentation in the summer.
    Thanks Vanek, good luck going deep in the playoffs.
    I will. Talk to you later.
    Bye.

    “Being on the PP doesn’t make you an offensive threat anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car.”
    Henry Ford

    “You can’t believe everything you read on the internet”.
    Abraham Lincoln

    ***Go Habs Go***

  71. habsfan0 says:

    So who’s in net tonight?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I’m guessing MT goes old school and puts a goalie in.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      Budashe is in the paint tonight! Hopefully Carey goes on Saturday, then they are off till wedsneday vs the cubs. Does budashe get that game considering his record vs the cubs? I’m thinking if Carey gets the sharks, MT will go with him again vs the cubs!

      shaker out

  72. Habanero78 says:

    Great game last night! Habs are playing well. Love the toughness they are playing with. Outhit the Kings and played well in Anaheim. Loving Crankshaft and Georges. Don’t understand where all the hate is coming from to Georges, he had some key moments on the pk last night, and his puck handling/moving skills have increased by like 10 fold in the last while. Not that he’s Markov or Subban puck handling but it’s not frightening when he’s out there. He’s a solid quiet defenseman that works well with this Habs team.

    Subban has been atrocious defensively, I don’t think the Team Canada brass was wrong to not play him. Don’t get me wrong, Subban is an elite player, he’s just not elite of the elite at this point. It’s a tough balance between flash and shutdown de.

    And finally the quotable optimist, I’ll leave you to decide who posted this last night hahaha. Fairly obvious–> ” Btw, Habs are goin to dial in a big stinker tonight. It’s almost like a tradition on trading day.”

  73. Captain aHab says:

    Wonder if MB called Snow back immediately after getting Vanek to try to get Tavares for Reway and a 4th?

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  74. Sportfan says:

    So pretty cool game last night, I missed all the fun stuff how did everyone react to the Vanek trade? Did anyone not like the deal?

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