About last night …


It was a great day for a couple of New Jersey legends.
Bruce Springsteen’s new album came out on Tuesday.
And Martin Brodeur won another game at the Bell Centre.
Not such a great day for Canadiens’ fans, though.
They might love The Boss’s music.
And they might admire the Hall of Fame goaltending career of a St. Léonard homeboy – as evidenced by the warm applause for Brodeur’s selection as the game’s first star.
But by then, most fans had left the building.
And they did not go home happy.

Remember all that positive energy generated by the Saturday night conquest of Chicago?

Brodeur and the Devils saw to it that those feelings washed away like doggie doots in the mild weather Montreal’s been having.

The worst of it was the Canadiens did not play a bad game.

Having held the Stanley Cup champions to a season-low 20 shots in 65 minutes on Saturday, the Canadiens bettered that against New Jersey: 19 shots, including TWO in the third period.

The Devils were, however, opportunistic. The visitors scored three goals on their first 10 shots.

Let’s not let that .700 save percentage cheer up what few Carey Price-haters we have left at HIO. Price could not be faulted for any of the goals, each of which was scored with Devils immovably parked in and around his crease. And he made some key saves, including that slide-across stop on Michael Ryder in the photo.

This may come as a surprise to Canadiens forwards, but NHL rules permit proximity to the blue paint. And sticking enough bodies there, as New Jersey did all night, enhances the chances of a puck finding its way to the back of the net.

Brendan Gallagher understands this. The diminutive Canadien has been a burr in the britches of opposing goaltenders since he joined the team last season.

Gallagher was called for interference on Brodeur three minutes into the game. And he was on the edge of the blue paint when His skate deflected a Lars Eller feed past Brodeur.

It was ruled a goal on the ice. But after video review – the duration of which suggested Toronto was going to break hearts in Montreal – it was ruled Gallagher had kicked the puck in.

Attention conspiracy theorists: the Canadiens have had SEVEN goals disallowed since Christmas. No one – not even the President of France – gets screwed that often.

But the zebras did not cost your Montreal Canadiens the game. No egregious fouls went uncalled, and the home team had three power-play opportunities.

For all the good that did.

The Canadiens have failed to score on their last 18 man advantages, a streak that’s lasted five games. The Canadiens’ most recent power-play goal was scored by Gallagher in the third period at Dallas on Jan. 2.

Since then: Zilch.

When the Devils’ Andy Greene went off for interference lathe in the first period, the Canadiens’ PP actually showed signs of life. There was more movement from Andrei Markov and P.K. Subban at the points, with Markov penetrating down the left side and Subban moving to the centre of the blueline to shoot and feed the puck down low.

The problem, to my eyes, is lack of net presence. The Canadiens throw the biscuit around on the perimeter like what a caller to Ron Fournier’s show called “the Harlem Globetrotters of hockey.” No one, however, was willing to do a Shaquille O’Neal on Brodeur..

With David Desharnais out of the lineup with the flu, Lars Eller had 1:51 of power-play time. Fine. You need a centre; and while Eller lacks DD’s playmaking finesse, he’s a battler who works hard down low.

That quality has rarely been attributed to Rene Bourque, who had two minutes of PP time, prompting Sun hockey columnist Chris Stevenson to tweet Like that McDonald’s commercial: Rene Bourque on the Montreal power play. Whaaaaat?

Know what I’d try on the power-play?

Stick a big body – Douglas Murray or George Parros, perhaps – on the lip of the crease. Philadelphia used to do it with Chris Pronger before his injury. The Bruins do it with Chara.

It’s fine to have Daniel Brière channeling Gretzky from behind the net. But unless you get some big bodies in the goaltender’s kitchen, the PP will continue to sputter.

And that will spell trouble for a team that has trouble scoring at even-strength.

Precisely how much trouble will be gauged in the Canadiens’ next two games, in Ottawa Thursday night and at the ACC on Saturday.

Like the Devils, the Senators and Leafs are scrambling for Eastern Conference playoff berths. They’ll be playing desperate hockey, and woe betide our guys if they don’t match that intensity.



  1. SteverenO says:

    Having watched the last two games, I think that the Habs played almost as well in both of them albeit they achieved different results.

    Unless the team does something to increase their goal production both at even strength and on the PP they will probably lose quite a few games even when they “outplay” the opposition.

    I cannot help but laugh when I hear a number of people (including journalists like Marinaro, and Boone) make suggestions regarding how to “fix” the Habs PowerPlay.

    – Put Parros on the PP to stand in front of the net
    – Put Murray on the PP as a forward to stand in front of the net.
    – Have Subban and Markov switch sides.
    – Play Eller more
    – etc. etc. etc.

    While it may be effective to have a “bigger” body up front (JM had some success using Darche in that role) if the team were to try it I would recommend that they use Prust to play that role before Parros or Murray. It might actually help to have someone that can skate and recover loose pucks when you have a man advantage.

    That being said, there are two other moves that would be much more beneficial in improving our success with them man advantage.

    1). Why has nobody (besides myself) suggested that we actually go back to the line that has been the most effective PP producing line this season with 3 goals scored in 10 minutes of play with the man advantage?

    Bournival/Plekanec/ Gionta have played together as a line on the PP for 9:51 this season and have been on for 3 goals, BY FAR our most effective PP trio. This (should be) a no brainer.

    2). The other PP adjustment that could be made is to replace the second wave defence with one forward. This has been an obvious adjustment, that has no downside and a huge potential upside, that I have been advocating since the middle of last season.

    So far this season Bouillon has played 51 minutes on the PP and this has resulted in 2 goals scored. Diaz has played 61 minutes and only 3 goals scored. The fact is that even if the team had put the back up goalie, or the zamboni driver, out there with the man advantage for 50 to 60 minutes they would have likely scored the same two,or three, goals.

    How hard would it be to actually do some coaching and “teach” a player like Bournival, or Eller, or Briere to line up as defenseman on the PP?

    It also seems to me that on most PP bs the team is “ad-libing”. There have been so many different combinations put out there, and on most occasions of late , it looks as if the guys have never practiced as a unit.

    I cannot understand what else they can be doing in practice that is more important than working on the special teams.

    It was nice to see that MT finally woke up to the fact Bournival is one of the teams best skaters and after playing him only 2 shifts in the second period he played regularly, (7 shifts ) in the third.

    Maybe he will get another opportunity to play a regular shift for a full game one day soon.

    As far as dressing 7 defensemen is concerned that is outrageous and unacceptable.

    Even if DD is not sick , In the previous game against Chicago, Parros played 3 minutes, last night he played a total of 6 shifts, 4 of them in the first period. The team can somehow afford to have about 10 assistant coaches and GMs (none of whom even bother to their job and ANALYZE the statistics to determine players strengths and weaknesses) but cannot afford to keep an extra forward in the press box?

    If anyone thinks that this team is good enough to compete with basically 10 forwards (9 really, because its hard to count Bourque who has not even had a single assist in 30 consecutive games) .they are sadly mistaken.

    In his ultimate wisdom coach T decides that giving Mr. Bourque (on a team that averages one ES goal every 28 minutes overall and scores one goal every 47 minutes when Bourque is on the ice at even strength) a regular shift on the PP is the way to snap the team out of its PP doldrums.

    Quel désastre!


    Steve O.

    • shiram says:

      A good analysis and I must say I agree on most points.
      Eller on the point on the second PP wave makes tons of sense to me, well enough to warrant a try anyways.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Yeah, however, I quit reading after “I can’t help but laugh …” too dumb to continue. 🙂

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

    • Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

      Good suggestions all. Some other things to try:

      1) Move Max to the right side for where he can fire one-timers.

      2) Allow PK to rotate down low more often — even behind the net. He’s one of the few guys who can rag the puck along the boards. Take advantage of that by letting him cycle behind the net where he dish pucks to the front of the net or back to the point. Remember, he’s also one of the 2 or 3 best passers on the team.

      3) Give Emelin some PP time. He’s got a good shot plus didn’t he have some success on the PP early last year?

  2. Mondou6 says:

    Question: How many exciting and convincing home wins have we had this season?

    1) Chicago (even though we won 2-1 in OT)
    2) …any others…???

    Now, how many boring, demoralizing, painful-to-sit-through losses have we had? Too many to count?

    Point being, even with a decent record, games like last night seem more like the norm this year, rather than the exception. There have been a *lot* of games where we have played 60 minutes of boring losing hockey.

    • Cardiac says:

      A) We have a better record at home than the Bruins
      B) Along with the Hawks game, I can recall some exciting wins against the likes of the Ducks, Penguins and Bruins
      C) The game against the Kings is the only standout home game I can think of where we were completely blown out of the water

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Aw, come on. It’s like people just sit and think for hours on end and try to come up with something to moan about.

      We’ve played some bad games. We’ve been inconsistent. So have 20 other teams in the NHL.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  3. Timo says:

    So, do Habs get a day off today?

    (Burly, not to confuse you, this time it is indeed a tongue in cheek question)

  4. Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

    Anybody catch Chris Nilan and Coco Lemaire on TSN 690 yesterday? Very interesting discussion for those interested in the origins and evolution of the dreaded trap plus assorted other topics. The show is available online; here’s the link



    • Timo says:

      You know, based on NJ’s record trap is very beatable. You just need a coach with half a brain and less than half your roster to be below 5’7″ and it really is not that bad.

      • Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

        Heck, you don’t even need a coach…just a guy with a computer, an internet connection, and the wherewithal to Google “how to beat the trap.”

      • Bogie Man says:

        You also need to be on the ice more than you are off the ice. I suspect the team has been given another day off today. That really rots my socks. I do not get time off because I suck at work unless you mean permanent time off.

      • bwoar says:

        Every time we play these guys I have the same thought. “OH NOES ITS A TRAP!!111” go the beat writers, and yet Jersey’s record ain’t special. A trapping, defense-only team had little trouble scoring goals on us last night. Maybe we ought to take notes. No wait, JM took notes. Maybe we ought to actively emulate them.

        I don’t hate the coach like you do but I am fed up with the failure to coach a dynamic powerplay. The entire league has it figured out by now. It’s time to change it up.


    • JUST ME says:

      A very good interview. Lemaire does not like nor gives such interviews but Nilan is his friend and it shows in the tone of the conversation.
      Very interresting facts about the day after Carbonneau was fired also…Time does reveal a few things and pieces of the puzzle take their places.

  5. Timo says:

    If this game doesn’t show Bergevin that Habs need bigger more aggressive bodies nothing will. The munchkin train cannot play against trap. And half the teams in the East play trap. Bergevin needs to get his head out his as$ and stop riding the <5'7" train. Sigh.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Bergevin knows he needs bigger players, he said as much, which is why he drafted them.

      Would you prefer that he’d paid what the Leafs did for Big Ol’ David Clarkson?

      Big, mobile, skilled forwards are in great demand, and just going and getting them is not as easy as you seem to be suggesting it is.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • shiram says:

        He went and got Brière wich was very perplexing, and his drafting included short guys like Andrighetto and Lekhonen.
        He’s doing some good, but some questionnable things as well.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          So when he came upon the talents of Andrighetto and Lekhonen in those rounds, he should of continued to just draft on size, even though the players available at that point perhaps had little to no chance to make the show?

          He did draft Crisp, he did draft McCarron, he did draft De La Rose, and we do have decent size in Tinordi, Beaulieu and Pateryn on the way up.

          He is and has acknowledged the need for size. Briere is definitely the fly in the ointment, no doubt about it.

          • shiram says:

            I’m no draft guru, and can’t point to other players, it’s just too much work for me to get to know those hundreds of players of whom only a small fraction will ever make it to the NHL.

            My point was mostly to illustrate the disparity between his statement of need of size and grit, which is best gotten in the draft, with some of his actions so far, as you say Btière being the cherry on top of that cake…

            As I said above, there’s some good and some not so good, I think that’s a fair assessment.

          • Timo says:

            Right. So that sounds like another 5 (turned 8) year play a-la Bobo Gainey which may or may not materialize (most likely not, btw).

            Ok, here is to another 8 years of… Habs of last night.

          • Mattyleg says:

            Shiram, I agree that it looks strange, but there were no big forwards available for similar money, so he went with the next best thing, I think. I don’t think Raymond is useful. He’s a softer Colby Armstrong, in my opinion!

            Also, Burly points it out well that a good team is a balanced one. We still need smaller, fast, and skillful players, and we have a good mix coming up through the pipeline now, I believe.

            By the time they get here, most of the current smaller players will be gone.

            And Timo, you can’t evaluate a GM on what he does in 1-2 years; he needs to be able to show that he can actually build a team, which is what MB is trying to do.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • shiram says:

            Raymond’s got 12 goals now, can play PP and PK if needed.
            I’m not saying this guy would have turned the Habs into a powerhouse, but he would have been more usefull than Brière, cheaper and on shorter term.
            He’s also much faster than Armstrong, who had basically no game left in him…

      • Forum Dog says:

        Jagr would have looked pretty good in a Habs jersey. Probably there were reasons they didn’t sign him, but from where I sit he could fill Briere’s spot and then some….

    • boing007 says:

      Whoo! Whoo! Chugga chugga chugga.

      Richard R

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Trying to remember what kind of players MB and Timmins drafted this past offseason. And trying to remember if he said he needed bigger players and if he also said it would take time to develop them, given the UFA market requires massive overspending and trades are hard to make.

      I will grant you the signing of Briere was/appears to be a mistake. But otherwise, while your point being we need to be bigger is true, you refuse to acknowledge that indeed our GM is aware of the issues.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Timo, I agree with you, but try to be a little more logical. Big, fast, strong forwards do not grow on trees. Give MB a chance. He brought in Parros as a start to get some size and strength. I guarantee he is looking for bigger forwards every day.

      As far as Briere…I just don’t get it. wouldn’t 99 people out of 100 have taken Jagr, regardless of age, over Briere.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  6. Forum Dog says:

    Watched part of the game, but tuned out for the second half of the third. Hate to sound defeatist, but you could almost tell that there was no hope of mounting a comeback. Jersey stifled them in the neutral zone and there was no effective forechecking that I could see.

    Was hoping that Eller would do more with the time he got. His size and skill is tantalizing, but that first Jersey goal was pretty much on him. He turned it over at his own blueline, then was unable to hold Henrique to the outside and basically ended up crashing Price’s crease with him. Bang, Jagr, buries while Eller and his man are piled on top.

    Briere looked okay on the PP, but they are gonna have to find a way to sneak pucks into the slot. Everyone is on the perimeter, and the only really good shooting lanes are getting clogged up. They need some bigger forwards who can set up shop in the slot and make it harder for the opposing PK to play a straight box.

    Bigger forwards are not gonna be found from within. The farm is pretty pathetic right now. That might change in a couple of years when Hudon, Collberg, Gregoire, Vail, etc. arrive, but as of today there is no-one down there who can provide much of anything. If they want to adjust this roster, a trade will be the only way.

    Saw some mention of LA and, recognizing that the source was HockeyBuzz and therefore unreliable, think there could be a fit there. LA is short on defensive prospects, and they have some size up front that they could conceivably part with (i.e. Dwight King, Kyle Clifford). Wouldn’t mind seeing MB make a deal, but obviously not simply for the sake of it.

    • Timo says:

      Actually, one player whose play I was really not impressed with last night was Subban. Almost every time he had a puck in the Habs zone turned into a prolonged NJ cycling presence because instead of making a simple play and getting the puck out he’d try some fancy dipsy doodling.

      • Forum Dog says:

        Agreed. There were a couple of times last night where he could have head-manned the puck and instead chose to carry it. Trying to do too much on his own. That is the glory and the glitch of Subban. Not too worry though. Therrien will get him straightened out…..

  7. GL says:

    The Bottom line last night. The Devils played better as a team.

  8. secretdragonfly says:

    Now, this guy is what I call a dedicated hockey dad.


  9. jeffhabfan says:

    Another poor effort Last Night I just find us hard to watch sometimes but man are the Devils a joke to watch. They just trap all night long what ever happen to trying to score goals. There game lacks a nice flow to it and now we get the Sens who we can not beat now.

    • Mattyleg says:

      I don’t agree that it was a poor effort, but the called-back goal really deflated us, and we pushed too hard after that, and our play suffered as a result.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Strummer says:

        Perhaps if they could score more often a goal being called back wouldn’t be so significant a blow to their psyche. A Team’s readiness to respond to this “adversity” should not be an issue with all the supposed leadership we have starting with our little captain and his cliche-spewing sidekick Gorges and others (Prust, Markov, Plek and veterans Briere and Moen).
        This team is offensively-challenged ______________________________________________________
        “It’s just an opinion- I could be wrong”

      • BleedsTri-colour says:

        The disallowed goal was the turning point in the game. The Habs were pressing shortly after Jersey went up 3-1. They were skating and passing and creating opportunities…looked like a matter of time until the Habs scored. Then the Gally goal. Why did it take soooo long to reach a decision? The Habs bench looked shocked when the ref eventually made the video review call. The team had nothing left after that break- no push. The disallowed goal combined with the lengthy time-out totally killed our momentum.
        (I have seen several goals that were allowed that seemed MORE kicked in than the Gally goal, but were allowed to stand. Head scratcher…)

        • Mattyleg says:

          Yep, that’s pretty much it.
          I was at the game, and you could feel the air go out of the whole building.
          Was even hard for us to get revved up as fans.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Habs didn’t play all that bad, but they could not sustain the pressure long enough. I do agree with Matty that they seemed deflated after that dissallowed goal.

      They better win tomorrow. I work in Ottawa and have a coffee & donut at Tim’s bet!

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  10. Chuck says:

    I keep getting a message saying that my posts are being marked as spam.

  11. shiram says:

    I have concerns about the Habs ability to score goals.
    They struggle to do it at even strenght, 29th in the league.
    And they can’t do it anymore on the PP which still looks decent because of a great start, it’s been eroding for a great number of games.

    Having a Moen play in the top 6 to form a shutdown line can work, but it really hurts our already fledgling offense.
    I know he played only 12 minutes, and Pleky 21, but it examplifies the need for a good 2-way winger in the top 6 that can play the length of the rink and score about a goal every 4 games.

    And yeah, it was mostly boring stiffling hockey…

  12. frontenac1 says:

    Last night’s game?Zzzzzzzz. Hey, take a look at the log jam for the last playoff spot. 4 teams separated by 1pt! And Boston lost! Not so bad after all. Now, just bring that confident mojo from the Hawks game back for the next two games Les Boys! Saludos!

  13. GrosBill says:

    Well, it was not fun to watch but IMO despite all the posts on here this morning, I actually felt the played OK just didn’t get many breaks and the called back goal seemed to really deflate the team.

    Prust, Bourn and Galley had a good game. Good to see from Prust. He seems to be coming back around the last couple games.

    If they beat Ott and Tor this week, we won’t even remember the NJ game. If they lose, HiO may go into complete meltdown by the looks of things.

    Remember this team is still higher in the standings than most thought they would be. We are asking them everyday to be more consistent, score more. Many call them a bubble team on this site and yet they are often the same ones complaining that the team is not scoring enough, inconsistent etc. If they were consistent and scoring more, we would have been talking about them as contenders all year-most have not.

    I try not to hold them to an unrealistic standard and then be so upset when they do not live up to it. If this was 1976-77…………

    IMO- this team is not there yet so I do not try to analyse them and dissect their games as a team that is……it helps 🙂

    Bring on the Sens – GO HABS

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I have a bad feeling about both the Toronto and Ottawa games.

      I hope I am wrong

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • bwoar says:

        It’s gonna depend on the powerplay coming back to life, I’m afraid.


        • Kooch7800 says:

          I agree. They need to rework the PP to get it back rolling. I agree with Boone though as well, we need some net presence. Gallagher is the only player willing to pay the price. Our points are our asset but if there is no one down low being a constant worry it is easy to shutdown

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • stevieray says:

            Gallager is the ” only” player willing to pay the price ever time he’s on the ice PP or regular shift. he is a joy to watch ..
            Briere to me is useless..he just floats and avoids any kind of contact and is not willing to engage in puck battles ..sure he pots a few but overall not a threat.

          • Kooch7800 says:

            I agree Stevie. I am not a Briere fan and never have been. He has a window with chuckie out but he needs to impress which he hasn’t yet to me.

            Him and Clarkson are the two worst free agent signings. I would rather a prospect be getting his ice time

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        Me too.

        The problem against NJ for me was a lack of physical commitment. Every puck battle the NJ guy goes in full bore and the Hab leans forward with one hand on the stick and politely stabs at the puck.

        We looked like a guy trying to fish his hat out of a pond with a stick all night long.

        That ain’t gonna work against Toronto or Ottawa. Or anyone really.

      • frontenac1 says:

        Substance abuse amigo. Bad feelings become a thing of the past.Trust me on this one.

    • bwoar says:

      Thanks for posting this. It’s exactly what I wanted to say last night, but some clown was going off about Brodeur and I got sidetracked.

      Even with a contending team, people will let their highs get too high, and their lows too low. The Chicago fanbase complains when they lose. The Boston fanbase, well, they’re as bad as us, it’s only the jerseys we wear that really change as far as emotions concerned our respective teams.

      We’re doing much better this year than I expected, that’s good enough for me with a team still very much in transition. Sure with MB would get on with it though. I could handle the extra losses better if it seems that there was a plan and it was being executed.


  14. Mattyleg says:

    Hey all,

    As I mentioned last night, the positives I saw at the Bell Centre were:

    – Brandon Prust playing hard and reading the play well
    – Plekanec doing what he always does, and to the same high quality that he always does it
    – Great to see Parros getting some regular ice-time, and he looked strong out there, and involved
    – The Big Fat Party Animal in the ref jersey motivating the crowd provided accidental hilarity
    – The referee-clad girl with large assets who offered to draw a tattoo on my face – I didn’t have the presence of mind to ask for it to be drawn somewhere else

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  15. RetroMikey says:

    This is what Travis Zajac had to say about his style of hockey…..

    “I’m a big, physical forward who can beat guys one-on-one… Drive the puck to the net. I win the battles in the corners. Pretty offensively skilled, more of my game is offensive, but defensively I’m pretty sound. A pretty versatile player. Play in all situations.”

    Wish we had more of these big physical forwards on the team. I thought Pacioretty was supposed to be this type of player but I have yet to see him play as a power forward in front of the net.

    That is always been the downfall on this team, not enough players willing to take their bodies to the net.

    Big is better I say!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Toot your own horn much, Travis?

      Max is a very good player. He’s not the most physical, but I’m still thrilled he’s a Hab.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Max is fast and has a great shot. He was more physical when he was playing with Cole and even the years before. I think he changed his game after his injury and suspension on letang. I am ok with him not being as physical as he seems to get injured (heals quickly though) frequently and physical play would make that worse.

        He hasn’t missed a ton of time with injuries and we want to keep it that way. He has one of the best snap shots in the league. Very similar to Kessel in that regard

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      ““I’m a big, physical forward who can beat guys one-on-one… Drive the puck to the net. I win the battles in the corners. Pretty offensively skilled,”

      So why do you only score ~16 goals per 82 games?

    • piper says:

      Still waiting for Max to get that part of his game back. I guess it aint going to happen.

      • Cal says:

        He’s not as physical a player as most here would like, but he can and does score. His defensive play is improving, too, getting him some PK time. A pretty complete package for a decent contract.

    • Mattyleg says:

      I guess that’s why he got selected to play for team Canad… oh.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Mike Boone says:

      Benoit Brunet accurately describes Max as a “finesse player in a power forward’s body.”
      Last I checked, Max had more goals than Zajak.
      I think the Canadiens could use a Zajac-type player, but let’s not hold our breath on Pacioretty turning into one.

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger

      • Luke says:

        We get a skilful 30 goal scorer with size and people want to turn him into a 16 goal grinder…
        We get a grinder (Moen) and people want him to be a skilful goal scorer…

        Can’t win…

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        Thing is Max played with intensity and grit when he stepped into the league. Now that he can score 30 goals he doesnt feel the need to do those things. He’s more than capable.


        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

  16. DipsyDoodler says:

    1. Gally kicked it in. Let’s be honest.
    2. But the rule about distinct kicking motion is bad because anytime you give these officials leeway you are sure to get inconsistent rulings.
    3. Two options:
    ..a) Count all goals that go in off a skate.
    ..b) Disallow all goals that go in off a skate.

    I lean towards a. Why shouldn’t you be allowed to kick the puck into the net?

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I don’t think he kicked it in. Looked to me that he didn’t even know where the puck was. If anything, it looks like the puck was directed into the net by the skate accidentally. Definitely far from a kicking motion.

      I think all goals that go in off skates should count.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Mattyleg says:

      I don’t think he kicked it in either.

      If you look at his skate, it is right next to the Devils’ player’s skate, and they are rotating together.

      Also, if you look at Gally’s eyes/head, you’ll see that he isn’t even looking at the puck – as (I think it was) Eller said, Gally probably didn’t even know where the puck was!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Cal says:

      Not soccer. I think all pucks going into the net off a skate should be disallowed.
      I don’t think it should count when it goes in off a player’s body either. It’s why the game is played with sticks.
      I have no problem with pucks going off defenders bodies and into their own net.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        No, it’s not soccer but that argument is weak, imo. It’s not like players are going to start kicking every time they get near the net. It’s much easier and more accurate when it goes off your stick.
        It does take skill to bank a goal off of anything. I say keep that in. As far as the Malarchuk comment goes, that’s pretty weak.

        I mean worse case, don’t allow kicking…keep it as is, but GET THE CALL RIGHT. That was far from a kicking motion.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Luke says:

      “Why shouldn’t you be allowed to kick the puck into the net?”

      Clint Malarchuk could probably come up with at least one reason…

  17. russ2445 says:

    They were out coached last night and almost every night that I can see. This year is no different than any of the last 5 years. Down hill till the end of the season . Will be fighting for a play off position before the break. Go for the two young player one from Edmonton and one from Buffalo. KNOW. I can only name 10 players on the team that shouldn’t be traded. There are only 6 untouchables and we all know who they are.
    A fan forever

    Russell Fielding

    • Habsrule1 says:

      So tired of hearing how everything is the coach’s fault. I guess he was outcoached during our 11 game streak too?
      Basically, when we play badly (or play well and lose), it’s the coach’s fault.
      No matter what coach we have, this will always be the complaint. Maybe if they got 10 or 20 of the posters from HIO to coach, we’d be fine.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • scotland says:

        11 forwards and 7 defenceman ……. thats the coaches answer to galchenyuk going down.

        pp goal by devils last night……..habs d at the time….. diaz and murray. let me get this straight….those two stiffs (sometimes healthy scratches can play on the habs pk…..but norris trophy, olympian supertar is a liability on the pk.

        mt is an idiot. to find a better coach you would not have to look far.

        know this……mt is on his last nhl head coaching job….ever.

        • Habsrule1 says:

          scotland, I’d reply, but Matty wrote it so well. Read what he wrote.

          He’s right.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • scotland says:

      “they were out coached last night”

      outcoaching michelle therrien…….almost impossible not to do

      • Mattyleg says:

        How do you justify that statement?
        Is it possible to back that up with actual evidence, or is it just a throwaway comment?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • scotland says:

          his resume for one. not good.

          they fired him in pitts on a team that mt himself called the “worst defensive team in the league”…… same team won the cup with out him.

          his last stint in montreal. terrible coaching in the canes series of 03 and was later fired for good reason.

          murray and diaz are are good enough play the pk …….. subban is a liability on pk? that is laughable.

          gionta on the powerplay all year long? bourque on the powerplay last night? nice call coach.

          not pulling your goalie at 3-1 with a face off in the other teams zone?

          i could go on all day.

          time to “bench the coach”

          prediction: he will be lucky to finish season with the job.

          guaranteed wont be back next season.

          • Mattyleg says:


            The things you cite don’t support your argument, unfortunately.

            They fired him in Pitts after he turned the team around from the worst defensive team in the league to a contender. He made that statement not long after he was hired, and it worked in turning the team around.

            I can understand that might be difficult to get your head around!

            In his last stint in Montreal, Therrien was a rookie coach who had a lot to learn, and a lot to develop. We can’t fault his past for the success he’s brought the team this time round.

            That’s like saying Bill Gates was a bad programmer because the first computer he built didn’t work.

            Therrien never said that PK was a liability on the PK. Sounds like you’re putting your own words in his mouth! Look at the bigger picture, Scotland.

            Therrien is obviously trying to get those guys to unblock, and is giving them the opportunity to do so. People were complaining that he did the same thing for DD, and it worked for him. It’s called player management, and doing the best with what you have. Should he not play half his team because they’re not producing? No, he has to try to get them going.

            Not pulling the goalie was a great move, which has been done by many coaches in the past to send a message to their players, including the great Jacques Lemaire. You don’t understand why he did it, I guess, but that doesn’t mean it’s a bad move. You probably don’t understand quantum physics either (neither do I!) but saying that trying to bend space-time is stupid simply illustrates your lack of understanding. Better to not comment on it at all!

            You often do go on all day. About the same thing. Incessantly.

            He will finish the season with his job, and will probably be back next year.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Cal says:

          Don’t feed the whiners, Matty.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Therrien’s record is 55-30-10 since he’s been back with the Habs, and he’s 26-16-5 this year.

      Are you saying that he’s won 26 games where he’s been outcoached?

      Just kind of trying to figure out your rationale.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Steeltown Hab says:

        Regardless of his record no one will be jumping to interview Therrien once he’s finally fired.


        Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

        • Mattyleg says:

          Regardless of his record?

          So if he gets to the Stanley Cup Finals, or wins it, no one will want to interview him?

          Or if he finishes up with the Habs with a significantly winning record?

          Why would a team not want a coach who wins?
          I understand that you ‘don’t like’ Therrien, but the notion that other people (who understand hockey) will share this notion (especially if it is challenged by a good record) is a bit silly, don’t you think?

          By the way, Paul Maurice, who was just hired by the Jets has these totals: 460-457-68

          That’s a losing record, yet he is regularly touted as a top coach.


          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Steeltown Hab says:

            I dont dislike Therrien, I don’t know him. I think he’s a bad coach.


            Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

          • Luke says:

            Stanley Cup finals don’t amount for anything.

            That is not success. Winning them is the only mark of success.

            It’s like a forward. Unless you win the Art Ross, you just aren’t a good scorer.

            Therrien’s been the Finals, but he lost, so he’s awful.
            Getzlaf put up lots of points but has never led the league in scoring, so he’s brutal.

            Y’know how it is…

          • Mattyleg says:

            Steel, thanks for responding to only one word in my discussion.
            I guess I was waaaaaay off the mark when I said you didn’t like Therrien.

            I really should have said that you don’t like Therrien as a coach, so that it doesn’t get confused with you disliking Therrien as a sushi chef, or as a movie reviewer.

            What about the rest of my argument?

            And Luke, you’ve got it bang-on.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      6 Untouchables – Pacioretty, Desharnais, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Diaz, Desharnais


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

  18. habsguru says:

    crashing the net and blocking the goalie would have been the difference last night. CH had descent puck possesion, and not that bad of a game except when MT had the brainstorm to put Parros out against the Jagr line…… more than once…… That, said (or posted), Parros’s big carkus in front of the net on a PP is a Damn Good idea, nothing else is working.

  19. Habsfan888 says:

    I see Hockey Buzz.com saying that the Kings and are Habs talking .Probably not true but would be nice to shake things up on this team

  20. ooder says:

    I think that the teams issues are not necessarily coaching but more the type of players.
    Think about everything the team had to do to finally get DD to produce.
    Take apart the very effect EGG line.. check
    Give him first line PP..check
    Give him the top winger in Pacioretty.. check

    Now to get Gionta, Bourque and Briere going they are taking away PP time from Eller and Chucky (before injury) and giving all this PP time to them.
    The team has to twist and turn to try and get so many of it’s player to produce it’s pathetic.
    Dump the dead weight already!

    • RC-51 says:

      I agree! Bourque and Brier are useless, but I’m waiting to see what Brier does for us in the play-offs.
      Ever since the “egg line” was split up Eller and Chucky haven’t played the same, yet the DD,Pax line have played well. Gionta is a 3rd line player and can’t be expected to score regularly. I think he’s on a downward spiral and don’t believe he will be resigned

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        It’s Briere. Holy Fuck!

      • ooder says:

        i sure hope not because he does not get paid like a 3rd liner.
        that’s why i have no issues with moen or prust not putting up goals. they are 3rd/4th liners who get paid like it.
        in general i am happy with gionta’s production overall with the habs, this year though is rough for him

      • scotland says:

        “but i’m waiting to see what brierre does in the play offs”

        lol yea he is another rocket richard/claude lemieux.

        with 16 teams in the east, three point games, and habs playing 500 hockey…..for all intents and purposes the play offs are now………you really think brierre is gonna go from spot duty, press box, fourth line, invisible most games….to play off sniper?

        philly bought him out fore the same reason montreal but gomez out……..he was finished as an effective player and wasting good ice time

        • RC-51 says:

          dont disagree with you but under the circumstances there are really no options but to wait and see. can’t buyout, doubt anyone will trade for him at his 4M!

  21. RC-51 says:

    That 2nd goal was interference on Price, shouldn’t have counted. Gallaghers goal should have counted.
    But what is more confusing to me is why MT has Bourque on the PP and Eller on the bench and why haven’t they called up a forward from Hamilton when we have two F’s injured? Parros CANT be counted on to replace Whites or Galys ice time…

    • Mike Boone says:

      Says something about the quality of forwards in Hamilton, eh?

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger

      • boing007 says:

        There aren’t any quality forwards in Hamilton, only a lot of defensemen.

        Richard R

      • boing007 says:

        One reaction to K Fraser’s explanation of the kicking motion rule:

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        February 8, 2013 1:13PM

        Instead of rules with huge gray areas, like this and goalie interference, why not make the rules black and white. If a puck goes in off of an attacking players skates it is either a goal or it is not, decide. Make the rule read one way or the other. Either all goals off of attacking skates are good or they are all disallowed. No gray area, no looking at endless replays trying to decide if he did or didn’t kick it in deliberately. Make it black and white, ok to kick in or not ok. End of debate. Similarly, if the goalie is outside of his crease he becomes a defensemen and is treated as such. If he is hit legally, as any other player, no goalie interference. If he is in the crease all goalie interference rules apply. Stay in your crease or risk the consequences. Report this comment!

        Richard R

  22. boing007 says:

    Dump and chase doesn’t work against Brodeur. He intercepts the puck, passes it off to one of his defenseman and off they go. Offensive threat nullified.

    Richard R

  23. wjc says:

    I think the game against New Jersey was a learning experience. A good bounce here and a bad bounce there. Learn from what New Jersey does right and still try to be entertaining and not put everyone to sleep.

    A good man in front that can stand up to abuse is needed. Is he in the system or does he have to be found. Knowing the problem and correcting it are two different things.

    Playing Brodeur with a lead is tough, they can play tight and Brodeur stops them when things break down.

    The games against Ottawa and Toronto are now the focus, this will be the test in my opinion. If you win them both great if you win one out of two not so good, lose both and you are in a dog race to the finish.

    Makes things interesting, players should be ready, no excuses. People on here laugh at the Leafs, but I can smell the fear.

    Every team wins and loses, has streaks good and bad, just look at the standings. Therrien will have the boys ready and it will be exciting for me. If they lose might as well find out what you really have, and if you win this will be a great win under pressure.


  24. habsguru says:

    how was that not goalie interference on price, believe it was the second goal? I thought I missed something, and watched it more than once. the TSN guys didn’t even mention it??? MT didn’t lose his mind over it, no reaction from the CH on the ice… might need to adjust my tv!

  25. Mike D says:

    Don’t want to talk about last night’s game since it isn’t worth talking about. Instead, I’ll offer this:

    It is a MUST for MB to start getting guys re-signed so he knows how much room he has to work with in the off season. Talks have begun with both Marky and P.K. and I’m sure both will be retained. I’d guess 5.75mil X 3 years for Marky, and 7.5-8mil X 7 or 8 years for P.K.

    Therein lies the problem – adding in Emelin and JG, that’s roughly 22mil for 4 Dmen…..kinda getting on the expensive side for a Dgroup considering you must have at least 3 more (even though they will be much cheaper) on the roster. It will likely be around 26mil on Defense which is quite expensive considering the team’s main problem seems to be scoring, especially at even-strength. Factor in 8mil for goaltending and that’s almost half the cap on non-forwards.

    MB has got to remove a couple of “bad” contracts from the team if he expects to make any significant changes up front. Gio is in his last year, but at least two more of Briere, DD, Bourque, JG have also got to go.

    – Honestly yours
    Twitter: @de_benny

    • mrhabby says:

      The Cap is going up way up so iam not so sure its that big of a deal. That being said he might let GIO walk. DD stays and of course unloading Bourque for a bag of pucks… only issue these guys have to be replaced with somebody.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Exactly my feelings. Takes his sweet time with Subban, Markov, Eller. But feels the need to jump the gun with DD and Bouillon’s early extensions.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

  26. Chuck says:

    I’m still confused about New Jersey’s 3rd goal. How was Clowe not called for interfering with Price? The contact was not incidental, he initiated it himself, and it prevented Price from being able to move to make the save.

    Oh… and how was Gallagher’s goal called back for being kicked in in, when Ottawa’s in the playoffs against us wasn’t?

  27. jimmy shaker says:

    I think at the end of the day, the devils dictated the play, they were better at their system, they have a bunch of energy guys with 4 or 5 dangerous forwards. They work their arse off and play the way deboer wants them too. Sometimes you just have to say the better team won and move on. The habs did try to skate and press the pace, but jersey was able to contain it and hit back. No offensive zone pressure, no power play results did the habs in. Hate seeing them win and lose and win and lose and win and lose……they have to string some together here before the olympic break.

    Shaker out!

  28. GL says:

    Ottawa and Toronto wants to be in the playoffs Habs will be hard pressed to win either of those games. We’ll find out soon.

  29. ooder says:

    i don’t understand the PP one bit. from watching other teams I have never seen a completely empty space in front of the goalie, and one forward down low. Literally one of our players takes himself out of the play by parking himself at the blue line of the net. how can u possible score or do anything from there?!!?!?

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Murray provided a great screen on NJ’s first goal. A smart coach might take that into consideration on a PP that’s struggling.

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  30. DelawareHab says:

    Well, well. Such enthusiastic remarks form the players following the battle with Chicago and how this may be the start of something special. Special it was not…. I could say that another game of 7 D-men and again one of their worst D performances, but I won’t :-). My biggest problem is watching them play this hesitant style of game. It seems that they carry the puck so slowly up the ice when we are suppose to be a speedy team. Why are we not seeing PK and/or Markov carrying the puck confidently up the middle anymore. No gamble, no reward. I see them moving and then circling back and going side to side. I dearly hope to see some management activity over the course of the next to prepare for playoffs. I just don’t see them going very deep with this crew. (although probably not much value to them – exception Diaz and Eller) The trade material I see are Diaz, Bourque, Ellar, Prust, Emelin, Briere and Bouillon. Let’s do some shopping….

  31. Sportfan says:

    So what do the Als do at the QB position O.o

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  32. Sportfan says:

    How about we call an actual forward from the AHL and not have 7 d and maybe that player could be a small spark of some kind!

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  33. GL says:

    Goaltending was one reason and the other they were not allowed to freewheel that’s why they loss. when you’re not allowed to freewheel and not allowed to get set up. If the Goalie is on like Marty was. You can take all the shots you want but they won’t result in many Goals.

    The reason they beat Chicago was because they were allowed to do this. It looked like they played a good game yes because Chicago played the same way and the Habs were lucky enough to score in overtime. It could have gone the other way. NJ proved last night how to stop the Habs. Don’t let them freewheel, break up their plays and they’ll have to shoot from everywhere. NJ played the perfect type of Game against the Habs as well as good Goaltending and beat them 4-1 on 19 shots!!

  34. montreal ace says:

    Bedevilled by Jersey, given the run around by the officials, while being sore and baffled this morning.

  35. Sportfan says:

    Refs are becoming a bigger problem than before, how do you disallow 7 goals since Christmas.

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  36. RAM_TOUGH says:

    Even with Prust & Parros this team is SOFT!

    Price got ran twice last night & not one Hab done anything about it. For those of us old enough to remember, you think Robinson & Savard would let anyone run Dryden like that?


  37. scotland says:

    ryder has 16 (on trap team) cole got his 12th last night.

    hows little danny brierre doing.

    mb gonna buy out the guy who was just bought out?

    although cheaper at 4 mill a year….brierre replaces what habs lost when gomez left

  38. mrhabby says:

    I said to myself..this game wil be played with the usual devils style that being chock the life out of the opposition and if they score a goal or 2 that will be it. I pity the Devils fans who ever they are because its the most boring , pathetic style of hockey I have ever seen arghhhhh.

    As for the habs I hope they will be up for the Ottawa and the Leafs game two very important tiltes this week.

  39. rhino514 says:

    anybody have a video link of gallagher´s disallowed goal?

  40. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Springsteen’s new album sucks (Tom Morello???) and so did our team last night. Referees too. Couldn’t get the game in HD on Center Ice. That sucked. Suck factor very high on all fronts.

    Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  41. portle44 says:

    Time was when the NHL buffoons would make 7 goals that look fine on film, disappear in a season.Now its 7 goals in 3 weeks.No problem though, every game should turn on a guy in stripes with a headphone.Nothing to see here at all.

    • 24 Cups says:

      The seven disallowed goals would place that “number” in a tie for 6th (with Subban, Gionta and Briere) in terms of Montreal’s overall individual scoring.

      This week has our Habs playing three bubble playoff teams. If we lose two or three of those games, we then revert back to bubble status, ourselves.

      • scotland says:

        very true. and as the games get tougher down the stretch i expect the habs will fall off the map. out of play off picture. barely able to play 500 since that streak they had. and the coach has excuses for every loss built on now.

        “marty broduer was the difference” LOL

  42. adamkennelly says:

    Habs do not score enough goals to win games with any consistency…the reason is – they don’t have enough good forwards.

    Bourque is an embarrassment – he should donate his paycheck to charity. Noticed Briere not moving his feet, being late to his spot on the ice and essentially doing nothing out there. Plek, Gallagher, Pax (cause of the goal) only forwards who did anything.

    • scotland says:

      not enough scoring …. no kidding.

      markov scored two goals on home ice saturday night.

      dd the no 1 center has two goals on home ice……all season.

      bring on the olympics…….. curious to see price and subban on a good team

  43. Arrow77 says:

    Our group of 12 forwards included Parros and we replaced Desharnais with Bouillon. Is anyone truly surprised we couldn’t score? It makes no sense whatsoever that no forwards were called up when Galchenyuk got injured. Our win-loss record with Parros in the line-up speak for itself and he shouldn’t be part of our regulars no matter what happens.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Yeah Boullion for DD? Whassupwidat? Therrien is a freakin’ genius!

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

      • Mike D says:

        Is it possible that DD’s illness happened sort of last-minute, therefore preventing the possibility of a call-up due to lack of time?

        – Honestly yours
        Twitter: @de_benny

        • Thomas Le Fan says:

          Sure it’s possible but Cube going from a healthy scratch to playing forward shows a total lack of prep by the Therrorist and management. With Galchenyuk down we should have a forward up from Hamilton.

          Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

        • Arrow77 says:

          Like Thomas said, it’s the lack of preparation that caused this situation that is maddening. When you work with the minimum of players, you run the risk of a situation like that happening.

  44. Ozmodiar says:

    I gotta say I find the impartiality of the “Decision Makers” in Toronto to be a little suspect when images like this one are leaked from inside the control room.

  45. Habsrule1 says:

    If I heard the rule correctly, the goal should have counted. There was no “distinct kicking motion”. That being said, Gallagher’s skate did direct the puck into the net. The thing is, it was accidental. Gallagher did not even know where the puck was, so there is no way he directed it in on purpose, and there was definitely no “distinct kicking motion”.

    Other that that, I’m frustrated with the “1 good game, 1 bad game” scenario that seems to be playing out lately.

    Fianlly, why is it that everyone I know (and many I don’t) thought that getting Jagr was a better idea than getting Briere? Jagr costs half what Briere does and has double the points. Was our GM blinded by Jagr’s age? Blinded by Briere’s birthplace and Mother Tongue? I don’t get it.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • and see, I think he completely knew where it was. So depending on the personality in the war room it would be an easy call. But for sure there was no direct kicking motion…. unlike the Sens soccer goal last playoffs.

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    • wjc says:

      Let me help, Habsrule1, maybe Jagr preferred to play in New Joosey.

      Was it a bad game when Brodeur gets first star.

      Will Jagr run out of gas when the grind of playoffs start, guess we will see. Can 42 year old guys play every night when it heats up.

      Briere will be done at the end of this year if he doesn’t get it together. His buy out will me a cool million a year and easily absorbed in the cap for a couple of years.. Lablanc should be ready by then to take over or perhaps a new player from somewhere.


      • Habsrule1 says:

        It been made pretty clear that Jagr has wanted to play for the Habs for a while. I heard his agent agent, Petr Svoboda say as much on TSN690.

        Brodeur being 1st star does not necessarily say the Habs played well. I watched the game and while they had their chances, it was not their best game.

        Anyway, I hope they play better tomorrow. I hate when they lose to the sens, working in Ottawa and all.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  46. docketrocket says:

    No team that allows the opposition to run their goalie without consequence like we did last night will ever win the Cup. I disagree with Boone about whether the contact was legal, but that is not the point. The casual liberty with which NJ hit Price was shocking. Meanwhile Brodeur felt not a stiff breeze in the form of push pack. John Ferguson must be vomiting in his grave. This is not about our size or our lack of enforcers. Any player on any team that wants to win steps up in such a situation, even if it means losing a fight with a bigger guy. These hunters have to know they don’t get a free ride. I have often been disappointed in the Habs – so it goes. But I have seldom been as ashamed

  47. RAM_TOUGH says:

    MT has not sense enough to stick Parros or Murray in fornt of the net on the PP.

    No way did Marty B out play Price last night. Marty was beaten 3 times.

    Montreal has gone .500 since the big winning streak. Can’t even put u a 3 game streak anymore. Going to be a quick 1st round exit if the PP is not fixed!


    • wjc says:

      Hockey season have there ups and downs. The next two games will tell a big story of how good or bad the Habs are.

      Remember the Leafs couldn’t buy a win a week ago and then they beat Boston in Boston. Ups and downs, it is hardly ever a ride without its bumps.


    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Especially after Murray showed how well he can screen a goaltender on NJ’s goal.

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  48. 24 Cups says:

    Feeling a little down after last night’s loss? Starting to get tense as the Hab playoff standings tight up for the first time this year? Maybe this will put a smile on your face.


  49. John Q Public says:

    Every time I’m optimistic bad things happen.
    F*** it!!!!!
    What’s going on with the bat ?

  50. Steeltown Hab says:

    Giving Eller that spot and then not giving him the PP time with them was just a vintage Therrien move. All his PP time came on the 3rd wave of the PP just preparing for the transition back to 5 on 5.

    Eller can break the zone and protect the puck, can’t be said about a lot of guys on the PP. Desharnais and Briere carrying the puck through the middle is the most predictable turnover.


    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

    • RAM_TOUGH says:

      Also, MT can’t make in game adjustments to save his life!


      • habsfan55 says:

        Agree with you on that Ram….he has no clue at all

        habs fan but will cheer for any team that beats the leafs

      • wjc says:

        Some say he makes too many adjustments. Juggling lines, benching guys. Coach can only do so much in a game. Practice is where you make your adjustments, not in the heat of battle.

        Grind, skate, attack, sit back, dump puck, carry puck always the wrong plan. Poor Canadiens coaches, never heard a good word about any of them the past 15 years.

        Martin working with Pittsburgh and they are in first place. Gauthier working with Chicago and they are champions. Hartford ( a fan choice) in Calgary struggling, Boucher wanted badly, not in hockey.

        Be patient and build but win NOW!




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    • Cal says:

      Eller didn’t get out of the D zone last night, coughing ut up at the blue line. That led directly to Jagr’s goal.


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  52. Marc10 says:

    It’s been 20 years of the same thing against NJ (with the exception of the 2008 season where Kovy and co made short work of those nasty Devils).

    It’s been 20 years of being pushed around, trapped, stoned by Marty, and being unable to score. Mostly it’s been a snooze fest and I despise Uncle Lou, Jacques Lemaire and his successors for winning through boredom and crafty game plans.

    So Mr Molson, if you happen to read this, please for the love of the game, put a bounty on the Devils. Pay your boys a little extra so they get the proper motivation to put the proverbial stake through these vampires, and give the fans something to cheer about by lowering the prices of tickets when Satan’s spawn roll into town. Heck, throw in half price beers for the first half of the game just to make sure we’re on a winning trajectory.

    Don’t think of it as an expense. Think of it as an investment into the mental well being of your fan base. You’re a great owner and after tonight’s result I think we can all agree a higher power needs to step in to exorcise this demon once and for all.

    Thanks for reading this.

    A concerned fan of the game.

    • wjc says:

      Not sure if that was tongue in cheek, sure hope so. 20 years? Wow does time ever fly. Brodeur could have been a hab, if the old system of signing 11 year olds to ‘C’ forms had of stayed, instead of that universal draft. Just think Lemiex, Borque, Perrault and the french connection line and many more lost to other teams that got to draft first.


  53. ArmyFan says:

    Not sure I agree with the “no egregious fouls went uncalled” observation. On Henrique’s goal, a NJ player (Clowe, I think) skates with speed straight through the crease and into Price’s right leg, throwing Price off balance and preventing him from getting into position to attempt a save. No guarantee it would have made a difference, but it might have. Disallow that goal, and if Gallagher’s is allowed – this is a different game.

    Also the Zubrus contact with Price – was significant enough that Zubrus himself – showing some class – skated over to see if he was OK afterwards. Yet no call.

  54. rljmartin says:

    Saw the game on gamecenter after the fact. It is interesting to watch the game knowing the result.

    Gorges penalty… bad call …. No goal…. bad call… overcome adversity…. never

    MT…. DD ends up sick…. no replacement, so Bouillon who was a scratch ends up playing more than Murray and the line combos? Random number generator or alphabet soup, take your pick. MT and MB error… no replacement from Hamilton on hand.

    IF the Habs make the playoffs, with more play like last night you can guarantee they will be fresh and healthy. Did they play extremely poorly? No, but they play like they are avoiding injury and unless it is a freak accident, if they keep it up, they will be in perfect shape come playoffs only a LOT of bad habits will be deep-rooted by then. I guess what I am saying is that with the exception of a few…. no intensity on this club.

  55. Cal says:

    Firstly, let me say that last night’s game displayed why the Devils have so few fans. Their style is boring, boring, boring.

    I guess I am one of the few here that thought that Gallagher’s goal shouldn’t have counted. His skate pivoted forward and knocked the puck in.
    The game is hockey, not soccer. Frankly, I am tired of seeing goals go in off of skates that are allowed, even with all the goals called back against the Habs lately.
    My beef is with the Devils’ 3rd goal by Henrique. Why are they allowed to run the goalie over and it’s all good?

    • Cal anyone who’s played hockey knows if you see the puck between your legs that the first though is “how can I get this in without making it look like I am kicking” 😆

      It’s like that hit on Crosby by that capital a few years back, oh there he is, I’ll time it so I hit him and look the other way to make it look like an accident.

      Anyway, no biggy, right now the Habs need offense. Been like that since game one. Losing will do more for this team than winning.

      The top 6 need to improve and that isn’t an easy fix with team not trading. But Marc Bergevin will start with Bourque and Gionta.

      I’m happy with our defense, those guys aren’t movable, so we have to outscore our opponents. With Max as the only player that may score on a nightly basis, Habs need to bring in another shooter and then the wingers have to learn to get to the net and pot the garbage.

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      • Cal says:

        You’re right, even though it means another “lost season”. Habs need more forward punch and a couple of the D prospects have to take The Cube’s and Diaz’s jobs away.
        Must have patience.

        • I don’t mean tank the season and get another top 5 picks, we are beyond that now. There are too many teams that suckity suck suck suck. Just need to move some dead weight and bring in some fresh stuff to make hockey fun again. Show the fans we care.

          Another asset we have is Prust, everyone loves him, so he may be able to help with the draft this summer.

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    • JUST ME says:

      I agree with Sholi that you just can`t plan to kick the puck at the speed the play happens but anyway this is not the only frustrating play that happened yesterday because of the Devil`s brand of hockey. Clutching ,grabing ,non-calls. The zebras had a night off yesterday,not looking for that as an excuse but they are part of the problem that allows that kind of boring game to be played in a professional league.

    • TMan1969 says:

      Reading Toffoli is being sent to the minors…maybe he is on the trade block (not having a stellar season so far)…but what would have to be given to get Toffoli? Toffoli has 9 goals (5 GWGs) and 8 assists and +14 in just 33 games…Borque?

      Do not scorn a weak cub. He may become the brutal tiger.

      Mongolian Proverb

    • scotland says:

      habs can be even more boring. jagrs line made some great plays while playing more entertaining hockey than any of the montreal forward line. devils fans are bored watching their team. lol…….try watching pleks, bourque and gionta work a powerplay. z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z

    • wjc says:

      Cal, I think it is a tough call between aggressive and a foul. You are correct according to the rule book, your foot cannot be pivoting even though it is not a kicking motion.

      Tough calls and sometimes they go against you, life is tough sometimes.
      As far as the goaltender is concerned this is a very tricky call. Was he pushed in by an aggressive defenceman, was the goaltender a step too far out. Tough to get the call right.

      I will guarantee you that these refs are under the gun. When their work is reviewed they had better have most of the calls right. Some get dropped from playoff action once the teams get narrowed down because the league was not satisfied with their judgement.

      They try to get it right and the home team and the fans might argue differently. They try to get it right, they do not cheat, that I am sure of.


  56. Plekasuares says:

    Parros or Murray need to learn how to skate before there on our powerplay. However, it’s not like I have another idea so give it a try

    • wjc says:

      To use Pronger and Charra as examples is wrong because these guys can skate. Parros and Murray are not good fast skaters, Hal Gill was big but could not fill that role because if it went wrong he was trapped.

      A bad bounce and the other team is away and scoring a shorty. I think Boone should stick to writing and leave the coaching to the coaches. Writers, write and coaches coach.


  57. JF says:

    So much for hoping we could build on the superb effort against the Blackhawks Saturday night. I had a feeling that game would be followed by a stinker. That’s the maddening thing about this team – absolutely no consistency from game to game. A good team plays well most nights. With this team, you never know what you’re going to get.

    I thought they started off well and played a solid first period until the turnover at the blue line that resulted in the Devils’ first goal. That turned the game completely around, and everything, including the disallowed goal, went wrong thereafter.

    Marc Bergevin, asked what single improvement he would most like to see in the Habs’ play during the rest of the season, said consistency; he’d like the team to reduce to a minimum the number of games in which they beat themselves. By taking periods off, by lack of intensity, by taking too many penalties – we’ve seen all of these. I’d like to be able to expect the team to give themselves a chance of winning every game, but that seems as far away as ever.

    If Desharnais is going to be out against the Senators, they’d better call someone up from Hamilton.

    • TMan1969 says:

      I believe overall this was a good game, barring the brainfart at the blueline this one is really close. The no goal call hurt, the non-interference call when a NJD player fell on Price..costly…before we burn the barn we have to look at the structure and that’s where things go awry. Too much skating around the perimeter, not enough cycling and no matter the size go towards the blue paint (Gallagher is the proof)…Patches worked hard last night (he only semi-floated).

      Do not scorn a weak cub. He may become the brutal tiger.

      Mongolian Proverb

    • JUST ME says:

      Up until yesterday i did not mind about Bergevin not making a move or a recall to fill in or at least be on the sidelines if needed but he got caught with D.D. being sick yesterday cause some players should not play every game for obvious reasons. Parros,Bouilon to name a few.

      I can`t believe that we have to figure out our team according to a game like yesterday`s . I hate the Devils, the way they close the trap and prevents any talent to express itself. This kind of hockey forced by a weak pool of talent and skills attracts poor officiating with weird calls and non calls. Clutching and grabing, rushing the goaler and what not ant that, on both sides of the ice cause you have no choice but to play that game.
      I find it ridiculous that the league allows that game to be played instead of the pure talent demonstration we had on saturday.
      Not that yesterday`s results were not predictable. That`s the problem…

  58. TMan1969 says:

    Anyone hear about a LAK – Mtl trade talks? If so what and who would be offered…PK? Eller?…and who would Montreal want from the LAK?

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  59. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning friends. Missed the game last night and kind of glad I did. Another disallowed goal, eh? Gotta be leading the league in those.

    Try to be easy on the boys today. They had at least a games capital to spend after Saturday, no?

    CHeers all.

  60. Rad says:

    When Marc Bergevin was extolling the play of Habs’ special teams during his recent interview, was he also referring to the team’s anemic power play? I agree with Boone, why not station Douglas Murray or Parros in front of the opposition net during the PP? Many NHL teams routinely employ such a technique. It’s not rocket science. Yet, Therrien 2.0, starved for net presence, remains enamored and ensconced in his old, failing, perimeter-based strategies.

    • scotland says:

      pleks gionta and bourque on powerplay……mt has no room for adjustments.

      gionta on the powerplay is indicator that this team stinks. pleks playing pk, pp, reg shift will leave him with nothing left for play offs. (as usual) bourque? only reason he is on it is its his turn to play with the sisters (pleks and gio)

      only forwards playng with intensity last night….bournival and elar

  61. BJ says:

    If the NHL is looking for more goals why not allow the few goals that may be directed in with skates intentional or not?

  62. BJ says:

    In order to be a true contender you need to have the manpower to handle different types of games, we have part of that but certainly not the size and strength to compete on a regular basis against teams like St. Louis, Los Angeles, San Jose, Boston, Philadelphia and you could also include Ottawa and Toronto.

    • TMan1969 says:

      I think Montreal skated well, played well but overhandled the puck – too many fancy passes. Their mind set should’ve stayed fire everything on net, or this dumped in the NJ zone and made them skate 200’…and put the big body of Parros in front of Marty…

      The sky is not falling…yet

      Do not scorn a weak cub. He may become the brutal tiger.

      Mongolian Proverb

      • BJ says:

        Terry it could be not so much “scorning a weak cub….” as our genes simply cannot produce bigger, stronger players. We need a change in parenthood with the proper DNA to address our weaknesses in size and strength.

  63. JUST ME says:

    As we were still basking in the memories of a great hockey game on saturday we then got the expectable sorry excuse for a hockey game.
    I blame everyone starting with the Habs but mostly with the Devil`s style of hockey including the NHL that allows it and the zebras that had an off night.

    We have to SETTLE for this kind of hockey cause overall talent is not there. On every team you have a couple of players at least that are at best average players with little to no real talent.
    We were wondering just a few days ago why the NHL does not promote hockey as it has been played saturday and afterwards we get our answer with a pityfull demonstration.

    • BJ says:

      Hopefully Saturday night was not our “Mini Stanley Cup” win. In past years of glory that game would have been just another win, now its become extraordinary to just beat the top teams (which we are not a part of).

  64. BJ says:

    About last night….. Size and strength end of story.

  65. RetroMikey says:

    So called Selke candidate Plekanec -2 and so called captain Gionta a -2 against a team where they should be able to play the trap of the Devils
    Yup, our mighty Habs are so consistent.
    If I were Therrien, I’d be worried.
    The Devils, Leafs, Flyers to name a few, are going to play catch up hockey in the second half.
    The game against Chicago is another game of the past.
    Perhaps Therrien should have had a full practice on Sunday instead of giving the team a day off.
    Bergevin better start making some blockbuster trades if he wants to bring a Cup in Montreal on his 5 year plan.
    Last night proves you need the bigger grittier players to play dirty in front of the crease and we don’t have any!
    We are just a fragile team which will show as the season comes to an end.

  66. Maritime Ronn says:

    For those wondering about the disallowed Gallagher goal, there is much more to the rule than just a distinct kicking motion.
    Ex NHL ref Kerry Fraser did a TSN column on the interpretation of the rule a while back


    Any deliberate action or unnatural alteration of a player’s foot/skate immediately prior to contacting the puck causing it to be propelled into the net will result in a disallowed goal. Acceleration in the puck’s velocity toward the goal is also taken into account to determine if it was propelled into the net by a skate.

    Some forward motion with a skate that is deemed to be outside of the normal and expected motion a player would make in his skating stride or path to the net will likely be judged an illegal act should the puck enter the net.
    What is both interesting and concerning is the the official NHL Rule Book says nothing about these interpretations, and instead, gives an incredible degree of subjective latitude to the Decision Makers in…Toronto…

  67. Maritime Ronn says:

    As mentioned the other day, the Blackhawks provided the blueprint on how NOT to play the Habs being opening up the game and freewheeling.

    It always appears when a Devils style of game is forced on the Habs, they cannot adjust, don’t have the right horses, or a combination of both.
    If there was a stat for puck battles won/lost, the numbers would have been embarrassing last night.

    The Habs 5X5 hockey continues to be ugly.
    The Habs differential in 5X5 goals scored/against now stands at Minus 7, and the Habs now rank 29th in goals scored 5X5.

    What becomes a further concern is what has become a dead Power Play.
    In the past 19 games, the Habs have scored 6 goals on 62 chances for a terrible 9.7% efficiency.

    The net result becomes this.
    losing 3-1 at home and only able to generate 6 shots on goal in the 3rd period including a PP and pulled goaltender.

    For Subban watchers, he was held without a shot last night, and since his coach imposed 10 minute misconduct in Philly, he has zero points and is Minus 4…..

  68. scarboro_habitant says:

    saw the score this morning and seen that the habs had 1 goal. took a lucky guess on who scored it. it seems this team does just enough to avoid the shake up it desperately needs only to continue on with its anemic offense.

  69. Peter Young says:

    It reached the point where I thought Therrien should do something dramatic to give the team a spark–like putting P.K. Subban on as a forward, at least on the power play, if only for a single shift. Have him jam the net–anything to shake up what became an effort so spiritless that, long before the game was over, we all knew was not going to produce a goal. P.K. is so talented that he might have shown the team’s forwards how to do it.

  70. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Why oh why was there not a call up from Hamilton just in case a Hab went down in the warm up? Glad I didn’t see the game.

  71. Funniest stat of the night.
    NJD – 2 shots, no scoring chances
    Mtl- 6 shots, no scoring chances

    What a great game, I had more fun scratching my ask me later. 😆

    What a great save by Price. Thanks for that, it was the highlight of the night.

    You would think if you were getting ready to play the most defensive team in the history of hockey that you would be better prepared.

    Nice work Habs, you really showed your fans some great hockey tonight, I feel bad for every single paying soul.

    Bed time, nighty night…..FYI you are playing a similar team on Thurs, try and show up for that one.

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  72. CH Marshall says:

    Exactly Boone! Some friggin net presence. If defenders are worried about P.K. and Markov on the points, park a battleship in their goalie’s groin area and divide their attention. Then let the other two Fwds battle for the puck

    • SlovakHab says:

      It’s a combo of our coaches not being able to adjust and our GM not being able to get the type of players that park their ass in front of the net.

      We can’t blame Briere playing like Briere or Borque playing like Borque. But we can definitely question how their coaches use them and the management that chooses to acquire this type of players.

  73. SlovakHab says:

    Damn, second…

  74. keviathan says:

    la griffe crapped out on me tonight so switched to an amercian stream for the first time – holy crow do we ever have better commentators here, french, english, CBC, RDS, TSN, sportsnet, you name it!

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