About last night …


The topic around breakfast tables and office water coolers Tuesday morning will not be your Montreal Canadiens’ tenser-than-it-should-have-been win over Florida.
That’s old news … and it will be even older by 11 a.m., when TSN and RDS present live coverage of the announcement hockey fans have been debating and awaiting for weeks.
Team Canada general manager Steve Yzerman will tell us which NHL payers he and his staff have chosen to represent Canada at the Winter Olympic Games next month in Russia.
In the 514 and 450 area codes, we’e hoping Stevie Y’s announcement includes one name in particular:
P.K. Subban.

Carey Price – who was brilliant against Florida, especially during a 16-shot third-period fusillade – will be going to Sochi.

Max Pacioretty, who had nine shots on goal and four hits against the Panthers, has already been named to Team USA.

Raphael Diaz, who watched his teammates win from the pressbox, will be on Switzerland’s team in Sochi.

Andrei Markov, who played 25:39 against Florida and blocked five shots, almost certainly will be named to Team Russia, as will Alexei Emelin … notwithstanding recent struggles that stretched through the Monday night game.

Tomas Plekanec, who hustled down the ice to harass  Ed Jovanovski and set up Brian Gionta for the winning goal, has been named captain of the Czech Republic’s Olympic team – quite an hour, considering the roster includes Jaromir Jagr and Patrik Elias.

Peter Budaj, who was a loser in the Canadiens’ previous two games against Florida, is a fair bet to be Jaro Halak’s backup on Team Slovakia.

That’s an impressive list: seven Canadiens Olympians.

Eight would be great.

P.K. played 27:26 against Florida. Only the Panthers’ Brian Campbell – with an insane 32:07 – had more time on ice.

Subban had two giveaways, neither of which cost the Canadiens. He also skated miles, lugged the puck into the Florida zone, made tape-to-tape passes to teammates on the fly … and skated to the penalty box without a murmur of protest.

If Yzerman snubs P.K. Tuesday morning, Twitter will explode, Pauline Marois will call a snap referendum and misguided protestors will march on the Y.

L’Antichambre had an interesting segment pegged to Plekanec’s captaincy of the Czech Olympic team.  

Assuming, as many do, that the Canadiens will let Brian Gionta walk this summer, should the C be sewn on jersey number 14?

I think so. Josh Gorges is the other obvious candidate, and Plekanec is a more skilled and valuable player … if, on the evidence of the 24CH series, much less vocal in the room.

Mathieu Darche offered another suggestion, one that took the other L’Antichambre panelists by surprise:

Darche said P.K. should be the next captain.

Hey, why not? P.K. and Price, who are pals, are the best players on the team. And Subban is going to be the highest-paid Canadien.

Fans would certainly love it. The Bell Centre comes alive every time Subban touches the puck.

They haven’t had much else to cheer.

Before the game began, RDS showed some stats indicating the Canadiens’ recent struggles:

• 11 games in a row with fewer than 30 shots on goal

• 12 games without winning two straight in regulation

• Three or more goals against in six of the previous seven games.

The Canadiens had 35 shots on Tim Thomas.

They held the Panthers to one goal.

We’ll have to wait until Wednesday night in Philadelphia to see if they can win consecutive games in regulation.

That might not happen if the Flyers get 16 shots in the third period, like Florida did.

In his postgame remarks, Michel Therrien compared Carey Price to a closer in baseball. But a 16-shot barrage, while protecting a one-goal lead, is like going to the bullpen with the bases loaded, no one out and Miguel Cabrera striding toward the batter’s box.

A win is a win, and this one – the Canadiens’ 25th of the season – nudged them past Tampa Bay into second place in the Atlantic Division and third in the Eastern Conference.

The David Desharnais line played well, as evidenced by all those shots for Pacioretty and all those close encounters between Brendan Gallagher and Tim Thomas.

Daniel Brière didn’t score and had few third-period shifts. But he’s looking as comfortable as he has all season with fellow veterans Plekanec and Gionta.

Travis Moen – heroic as the clock ticked down with Thomas on the bench for an extra attacker – had more ToI than Brandon Prust, Rene Bourque, Alex Galchenyuk and Brière.

And in less than 10 minutes of ice time, Michaël Bournival had two shots, two hits and blocked five shots.

It wasn’t pretty, and the Canadiens will need more than 40 minutes to win in Philadelphia and not a second less than 60 when the Stanley Cup champions come to the Bell Centre on Saturday.

But the crowd went home happy … and that good feeling among Canadiens fans will last at least until Steve yzerman steps up to the microphone.





  1. J.J. of Turku says:


    No Saku at Team Finland’s Olympic team. 6 Players from KHL and no Sean Bergenheim or my favorite finnish “grinder” Jesse Joensuu. But finally we have a coach who thinks Jussi Jokinen is good enough.


  2. SmartDog says:

    Good to see people realized Pleks should be the next Captain.
    I’ve been saying that since Gionta. There’s something solid about Plekanec both in his attitude and in his play… consistant, solid, feisty.

    If not Plekanec I would pick:
    – Patches
    – Subban
    NOT Gorges NOT Markov
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  3. jeffhabfan says:

    A big win Last Night from the Boys. I hope we can get hot now and win a few in a row.GO HABS GO.

  4. HankHardball says:

    Habs should have 8 Olympians:

    Price, Subban, Pacioretty, Plekanec, Diaz, Markov, Emelin, Budaj

  5. Ian Cobb says:


    Great! Stay in contact my friend. PS, are you living in Mtl. I might need a hand on finding a room handy to hold our events, dinner and meet and great in. We will be having a dance after the game there on the Staurday night!

    Montreal Canadiens We Are Fans Summit · 229 like this
    December 9, 2013 at 2:36pm ·

    Posted by Stu Cowan
    The annual HIO Summit was a success despite the San Jose Sharks beating the Canadiens 2-0 Saturday night at the Bell Centre.
    Close to 200 members of the HIO community were in town for the game and the summit, which is organized by Ian Cobb, a longtime Canadiens fan who grew up in St. Lambert and now lives in Belleville, Ont. The HIO Summit was first held in 2007, but had to be cancelled last year because of the NHL lockout.

    On Saturday night, there was a sea of Canadiens jerseys at the Baton Rouge restaurant for an HIO pregame dinner and charity raffle for the Montreal Canadiens Children’s Foundation. After the game, the HIO fans got together at Hurley’s Irish Pub on Crescent St. to discuss the game, catch up with old friends from the site and make new ones.

    Cobb reports that more than $3,500 was raised for the children’s foundation through the raffle.

    The HIO fans came from across North America and beyond for the summit. Among those attending were Eric Zeigenfuss from Philadelphia (photo above), who brought his sons Luke and Ryan along for the trip, and Rob Hing and his wife, Alayne, who came from Calgary. John Syed travelled from England, while Nicole Syed came from Austria and Jamie Galsim travelled all the way from Australia.

    Former Canadien Rejean Houle, now an ambassador for the club, dropped in at the pregame dinner, bringing a stick autographed by the current team for the raffle. Houle had a chance to get reaquainted with former Montreal Junior Canadiens tough-guy Allan Globensky, who was also in attendance.

    • CJ says:

      Thank you Mr. Cobb. I will remain in contact. I live in Manotick, the south end of Ottawa. That said, I have resources in Montreal who can help facilitate a booking if required. Again, I’d be proud to help in any capacity.

  6. DipsyDoodler says:

    The Expos were one of the first team to apply Sabrmetrics principles. This is how they built the great but cursed 1994 team. The guy who was most responsible wasn’t even on the payroll:



  7. Habsrule1 says:

    It’s tough to pick a Captain, especially in Montreal.

    Personally, I think it should be Plekanec if he wants it. No fear of him saying anything controversial. Question is…is he a good leader? He leads by example with his play. Is he vocal enough? Can he become more vocal if the feeling is that he is lacking there?

    I can see PK as Captain, but not yet. I can actually see Prust as Captain sometimes…but I haven’t really convinced myself. The management team should pick the Captain, not the players. Biggest reason for this is that the players don’t really know the plans that management has for players…ie: They pick Plekanec, and management is working on a trade involving him.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  8. Max says:

    Dan Hamhuis and his 12 points.He’s not excellent in any area and is pretty average in all areas.Mr.Average.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think this Left vs Right shot on Defence is being completely overplayed.

      If indeed they can bring 3 Left shots that should be enough. Why take an inferior dman just because of his shot. So many of these Dmen have had to play the offside throughout their careers.

      Interesting they have no problem making forwards play the offwing or move centers to wing, but a dman can’t play the other side, at this level? Balderdash!

      That is why I think PK is on the team and was never in doubt.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        I agree about the left & right thing. If this is that important to Team Canada management, it makes no sense. PK can take his blast from either side of the ice. Not sure why it’s the be all and end all of the defense discussions.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • CJ says:

      Eric Gelinas or Eric Grudbrandson over Dan Hamhuis.

  9. habstrinifan says:

    Where the EFF is Boone? Didnt we give him an advance to LIVE-BLOG the Team Canada selection.

    He should have that little pre-blog timer up and running.

  10. Max says:

    They are really milking this Olympic selection thing for all it’s worth.Just send out a press release and have it over with. Such unnecessary drama.

  11. Ian Cobb says:

    Just sitting on the beach here in Belleville having breakfast.
    Hope you are warm where you are friends!

    Hab’s sure don’t make it look pretty do they! But we are still 3rd in our conference, with Tampa nipping at our heals, one point back.

    We are a good team, not a great team. We have to play our A game to get points against any team in the league. It is going to be a dog fight right to the end.

    Healthy we will be OK, but one key injury will put us in hard times I’m afraid.

  12. Chrisadiens says:

    Most of us know Gorges will be the next captain.

    The only question left is what type of beer should Cal buy me? A dopplebock maybe? Or perhaps a nice German hefeweizen. I could always go with a classic lager I suppose as well. So many choices…..

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  13. RAM_TOUGH says:

    @ habstrinifan

    Dinner with Boone. OK! I doubt that he would accept the invitation though. Maybe if I threw in a couple single malt Scotches.

    @ Chuck

    You are correct!


  14. Habcouver says:

    More exciting than… yes, most of the Hab games this year.

    Waiting patiently for #25

  15. Max says:

    Why is Rick Nash still being considered for the Olympic team? The guy blows.

  16. HabinBurlington says:

    So TSN thinks Couture now out of the picture and Kunitz in, would rather see Evander Kane get that spot.

    Also projecting Jeff Carter instead of Claude Giroux.

  17. durocher says:

    Giving the C to PK would be crowd-pleasing, but a big mistake onetheless — look no further than the Caps’ decision to give the C to Ovy. Yes, Ovy is their biggest goal scorer, the most exciting player on the team who gets the fans cheering whenever he has the puck, the team’s highest paid player, young, and talented like few other. But he is not a leader — at least not yet. Perhaps PK can wear the C one day, when he matures. But not now.

    Recent example: it was Markov who told PK to stop chirping the opposing team’s bench and get focused on the play, not the other way around. A guy who needs a vet to remind him to focus is not C-worthy, again, at least not yet.

    I say give the C to Gorgy, A to Markov, A to Pleks. Prust would be next in line.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Something wrong with Ovechkin as captain? I suppose if Brooks Laich got it they would have won multiple cups by now right.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

  18. Eddie says:

    Murray has a role to play in certain VERY LIMITED situations.

    He reminds me of the Fridge, William Perry, who played for the Chicago Bears. Perry was about 300 lbs and a lineman. The Bears would bring him in as a full back when they were trying to push the ball into the end zone. Perry could not play regularly. He was too slow and not nearly skilled enough. But in those short yard bursts for touchdowns he was perfect!

  19. wjc says:

    wjc Nerds love stats, saves them knowing too much about the actual playing of the games.

    Stats do not take intangibles such as injuries, situations, bad breaks, on and on. They just are.

  20. wjc says:

    What a great publicity stunt, create a huge controversy in one of hockey’s biggest and loudest markets.

    Create tension and suspense and then make the big announcement…..drum roll please…..yes we have chosen P.K.

    Loose cannons do not make captains. I mean by this that P.K. is too much of a free spirit and too intelligent not to say things that might have double meanings. He would be too unpredictable, I would love him as captain, but the powers to be would not be comfortable with the unexpected.

    You would need a happy medium between too quiet and over the top. Gionta filled that bill and every captain you can name, had a forceful personality but predictable. You need ‘sound bites’ the media could use that could not be turned into controversy to easily.


  21. shiram says:

    Advanced stats are nice and interesting, but they still lack some context and as such I don’t dismiss or hold them as absolute truth.

    Pleky or Subban as Captain, I’m fine with both.
    Maybe they got with 3 A’s for a season?

    You have to feel for Gionta, he’s not being put in a place where he can excel, but he’s doing an ok job. The defensive game he is playing surely is affecting his production, and will likely give him a lesser contract than if he was used in a more offensive role.

    • CJ says:

      The issue with Gionta, and it’s no fault of his, is that we have too many players under 6 feet. He is also on the wrong side of 30. That combined should equal a nice gift basket and a thank you for your service. I hate to be so harsh, but hockey is a business. We won’t win by being the nice guys. We will win if we build a roster with the 23 best players possible.

      • shiram says:

        I’m not disagreeing, and I think the Habs will let him go in the off season. I was just commenting that his role on the team now is not helping his stats for his next contract.

        • CJ says:

          Agreed completely. I’d love to see him go on a tear and end up with 30 goals. It wouldn’t change my opinion, but I like the guy, and wish him nothing but success. Further, it only helps Montreal.

  22. habstrinifan says:

    @HabinBurlington and any other with an opinion?

    Your post on Murray (totally agree on his value) has me thinking.

    If HABS are gonna go with the ‘makeshift’ defence pairings which MT has been experimenting with.

    Who do you prefer Bouillion/P.K or Gorges/P.K.

    For me it’s Bouillion/P.K. Bouillion’s fiestiness and energy seem to come out when he is paired with P.K. The combination provides a bigger boost on the ice than Gorges P.K… in my humble opinion.

    • Cal says:

      I’m thinking PK with Murray just to anger the stat jockeys over at EOTP. Markov with Emelin, Gorges with The Cube.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I actually prefer Diaz in the lineup over Frankie. I don’t mind the Gorges/PK pairing, I like Diaz with Murray and then hopefully Markov can get Emelin back on track.

      I think Emelin is having a typical dropoff in his return from injury. Last year we saw Markov come out of the gate flying and then he had some struggles. Emelin missed training camp and had to re-learn the game on the fly while still trying to trust that his knee can take the punishment.

      If he makes the Russian team it will be good for his confidence, if he doesn’t make the team the rest will be good for him. So either way it should be good.

      I think Frankie plays his best hockey after a few days off, the alternating of him and Murray seems to be the best solution depending on the opponent.

      I do fully endorse a callup of Pateryn, but still am suspicious MB is working on something, thus the delay.

  23. HabinBurlington says:

    I haven’t gone through every roster, but if indeed the Habs end up sending 8 players to the Olympics, that may be the most of any NHL team. I count 7 on Chicago.

  24. DipsyDoodler says:

    WHen advanced stats first came to baseball the establishment poo-pooed them.

    Here’s a quiz for you. What was the first small market team to successfully use an advanced stats approach to build a contender?

    Hint: they did it before the Oakland A’s.

  25. Say Ash says:

    Are we there yet?

  26. habstrinifan says:

    People in the 450 area code dont matter!

  27. Eddie says:

    I think Plekanec, like Markov, is somewhat irritated by the media attention, and he is not going to accept the captaincy.

    It takes a person who is comfortable with the media scrutiny.

    Of course Subban is a wonderful choice. It’s time to move this team forward and naming Subban captain does just that.

    I would trade Plekanec, take the King’s Ransom we get in return, add that to our very solid core, and expect this team to contend for a Cup.

    Eller replaces Pelanec defensively. Galchenyuk replaces Plekanec offensive production, and then some.

    What could we get for Plekanec? A freakin ton.

    • shiram says:

      I’d say Plekanec is guarded as relates to media interaction, it’s not that he is not comfortable, but he knows a single slip can hang around you for years.

    • Just a Habs Fan says:

      Eddie……Don’t know if you have checked but Galchenyuk doesn’t get the numbers that Pleks does and certainly isn’t the all round player Pleks is…probably never will be, The Kings ransom you suggest is a fairy tale unless some other GM thinks he is worth it and if he is why would the Habs trade him….more curious than that why would you trade him if he is worth a Kings Ransom ? The logic with that escapes me I must say.

      • Eddie says:

        You don’t see the logic because your analysis is flawed, sorry to say.

        All I can say is try and see into the future on Galchenyuk, because we will win our next Cup when Galchenyuk is a 90 point + centerman.

      • shiram says:

        I think a better way to explain it is to say that you deal from your position of strenght, Eddie obviously believes Habs are strong down the middle and could trade one C to improve an area of weakness.

        I don’t think the Habs are that strong down the middle yet, Eller struggles with offense, DD can’t play defense, Chucky has not played C yet and could have troubles playing a more defensive role as a C, and they are all to a measure inconsistent.

  28. rhino514 says:

    If you look at any advances stats, as EOTP did a few weeks ago, you will see that not only is PK in the top seven in the league, he actually comes out at number 1, compared to the top Dmen in the league. You can debate maybe top 2 or 3 but that´s about it.
    He´s also a better skater, regarding the big ice, than most of the guys ahead of him.
    It boggles the mind when you hear hasn´t even been a serious part of the discussion for the top six.
    I am at a loss to explain it, and I would love to know what those who are close to the team hear as far as reasons for his non-presence.

  29. HabinBurlington says:

    Can we get one of those James Bond type countdowns going until this announcement?

  30. sCOTT1243 says:

    I can’t believe the PK talk this morning on TSN. Has the media made this into a bigger situation than it is? Has hockey Canada said anything about PK being on the bubble?

    If PK is not picked I’d love to see Price tell them “good luck without me” and back out haha….that would cause a massive media storm.

  31. portle44 says:

    If the captaincy were only about seniority and dedication Marky would be the captain already.PK makes sense for a number of reasons having to do with personality,skill level and media savvy.Also,it will be amusing to watch the heads of the ….ummmm hockey “purists” explode.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      MTL already played the hard way with PK on the last negotiation, why delay the inevitable, he’s the captain. Whether he wears the C or not, there isn’t any doubt who he is for this team and franchise.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

  32. RAM_TOUGH says:

    Price is going to Sochi but behind Louie he will not see much ice unless Big Lou flounders early.

    Pleks is not vocal enough to be captain.


  33. derfab says:

    Desharnais is finally worth trading. We are solid up the middle so unless Pleks goes in a big deal, now is a good time to move DD for a pick or a big body. Eller has way too much potential to push aside.

    • Eddie says:

      I agree. But that’s not the way it’s going down.

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      1. MTL is too french focused to move Desharnais while he’s producing.

      2. I’m still not sure there’s a deal out there for him unless we’re just giving him away essentially.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        How can you keep cheering for the team if that’s the case?

      • habs-fan-84 says:

        The cap will be 71M next year.
        Desharnais makes 3.5M.

        Desharnais’ cap hit is tiny (5%) and will only get smaller each year.

        He is absolutely tradeable (if that’s what the team really wanted to do).

        • CJ says:

          Agreed completely. By the end of Price’s current contract he will be one of, if not the, biggest bargains in comparison to starters in the league. In five years time, the cap could rise another 20 million or more.

  34. rhino514 says:

    Though plus minus is not an accurate stat by any means, I think it is actually giving us a good idea in the case of Murray and Bouillon on how much they are in fact hurting the team. What is it, close on minus 20 between both of them? That is a huge differential on a team in terms of goals, it´s equivalent to quite a few more losses in the standings.
    Yes, Murray is big and can intimidate and stand up for for our guys; I would love it if he wasn´t such a liability apart from this, but the sad fact is, he is. Bouillon, when rested, is less so, as he can actually skate.
    But neither should be an everyday bottom pairing defenceman on a good team. In my mind, especially with emelin not rounding into form this year, Diaz questionable defensively (I am also beginning to see Markov caught out of postion more and more) the team needs a defensive upgrade before the trade deadline. If one of the kids in Hamilton can´t step up then I hope they can find someone who is an upgrade.

  35. Propwash says:

    Congrats on Budaj for making the Slovak Olympic team!


  36. Steeltown Hab says:

    I really can’t see the argument against PK for captain. Guy is constantly scrutinized, and handles the pressure and shows a maturity level that no one else his age in the league is pressured to do.

    MVP of the franchise. Arguably the most dedicated player on and off season. Always shows up in the big games. If they did a vote I think PK would run away with it.


    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin, Bournival, De La Rose – @J_Perez22

    • CJ says:

      I would have no issue if PK was selected. As you have suggested, leave it to the guys in the room to decide. Otherwise you bed up with a situation like that in Ottawa. No coincidence that the team is now winning since he has been out of the lineup. Lots of talk about a dressing room dust up following the sens loss to the bruins (5-0). Team is undefeated since. Coincidently, Spezza has not played.

      • habstrinifan says:

        Would you take Spezza for Bourque and????

        • CJ says:

          I have watched Spezza closely for years. He is the definition of a regular season player. I could go on, but really that it what it is in the simplest form. I would not take on Spezza, who is signed for one more year. Lastly, I would love to see the Bourque of last spring. I thought he was our best forward against Ottawa. Pacioretty aside, I don’t know if I can recall a guy hitting more posts. In fact, that might summarize his stay in Montreal.

  37. DipsyDoodler says:

    Saku was not included in the Finland Olympic squad. He wasn’t left out however, he took himself out of contention because he doesn’t feel up to it physically. He had a concussion in October.

  38. krob1000 says:

    Mentioned it last night but worth mentioning again….Smurfs have scored last 5 Hab goals. Two of the most criticized Habs in BRiere and Gionta have come up big and helped get 3 of 4 points. Also of note is they are wingers…been very little production most of the year from the wingers until MAx of late…but this is nice to see.

  39. habstrinifan says:

    Anybody seen my ‘Referendum button” and my “Heck YES it was a NO!” FLAG???

    I think I may need them at 11:10 AM!

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  41. Mavid says:

    Just another reason to hate McGuire and the Sens homers ..if PK makes the team, he will be an extra and only used on the PP..wow…just wow..

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

    • habstrinifan says:

      Triple WOW!

    • Eddie says:

      Mavid, that seems to be the information Team Canada purposely leaked to the media. All the sports media are reporting that Subban will not be top 6.

      Hitchcock wants his guy, Pietrangelo, to benefit from the Olympic experience, and the Habs, as usual, have no influence, zero.

      Molson and his team make money hand over fist. But their ability to influence the league, the game, or Team Canada, is nil.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        And another coach is Bruins Julien
        How much would he lobby for PK?

        • habstrinifan says:

          I may be wrong but I dont see any anti-P.K bias from Julien. He hates P.K ‘against’ the Bruins but in regards to Team Canada he has sounded affirmative that P.K is in consideration.

      • boonie says:

        Yzerman lobbied for our GM job. We turned him down without an interview. If Molson wants influence, hire influential people.

        Scotty Bowman was a big part of the ’76 Canada Cup team. Savard has been involved.

        This isn’t a league issue. It’s ours.

        • Mavid says:

          I figured the team was made up of the best players..I had no idea you had to stroke someones ego to get your players selected..

          Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

          • boonie says:

            I think the team will be made up the best players. I haven’t heard anything from Yzerman or Babcock about Subban or any other player.

            The media has been playing this story for months.

            Let’s wait for this announcement.

            My point about influential people was a reply to Eddie’s lament that we don’t have any influence.

      • Mavid says:

        No this is the opinions of the team 1200 goofs here in Ottawa..they have there little Sens love in segment every morning with McGuire. today they of course discussed Team Canadan’s roster and in their opinion that is what should happen to PK..

        Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Oh ya…great reason to hate him….cause he has an opinion…?

      I see PK starting as a pp specialist and working his way into many more important minutes.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Mavid says:

        Wrong.. like I said I already hated him, this just add’s to the pile of reasons..he doesn’t really have opinions, he just kind of spews the same crap that he hears everyone else saying only he screams and yells it, and then add’s in those words and sayings that nobody else understands

        Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

    • CJ says:

      It’s funny to listen to Pierre on tsn 1200 in the morning then on tsn 690 in the afternoon. He often contradicts himself. Equally amusing is listening to tsn 1200 radio on Wednesday morning when they allow fans to call into Pierre with a question. 75% of the time the question is regarding the habs or leafs.

      On an aside, I’ve met Stuntman Stu, a local radio personality. He is the public address announcer at the Canadian tire centre. Long story short, he is a huge canadiens fan.

  42. CJ says:

    Up early with the boys this morning. Tired, but satisfied. Nice win last night. I thought we could have blown the game open in the first period, if only we got a break here or there. Pucks were going on net, and the Canadiens carried the play. These are not the old panthers of years forgone. I like the composition of this team and fear we will be hearing from them in the not so distant future. I hope the win sets up our week and gets the boys rolling. Getting Gionta into the mix will really help.

    Stayed up to watch the BCS championship game, which was amazing. Hoping everyone has a great day!

  43. habstrinifan says:

    I am going on record now! Please do not make a decision on the captaincy based on Gionta’s ufa. Next captain of the HABS must give the HABS an identity.

  44. Phil C says:

    The advanced stats guys are their own worst enemy. They look at a bunch of stats and conclude that Douglas Murray is the worst defensemen in the league. For example, he is second last in CF% Rel (Corsi for percentage relative to team’s CF% with player not on ice). Because they believe that those stats have magical predictive powers, they conclude that Murray is the worst.

    So if Murray is the worst, I guess whoever is first must be the best. I scroll to the top of that particular stat and it’s none other the defensive juggernaut Matt Niskanen. Now Niskanen is a nice player, but should I now conclude that he is the best? If Murray is the worst, Niskanen must be the best, you can’t have it both ways. Or the you must conclude that the stats don’t really predict anything in an absolute way, that they require interpretation, which makes them quite subjective at the end of the day. A mathematical formula/theory only has to be proven wrong once to be deemed incorrect, even if it was right a million times before that, that’s how it works in math.

    The stats provide information, but they could never predict who is the best or who is the worst, especially since they don’t capture intangibles like physicality, intimidation, crease clearing, neutralizing the other team’s tough guy, etc, etc. You want to be a possession team against Murray? Go ahead, you’ll spend just as much time on your ass as you do with the puck, but your corsi will be great.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Really good post, and your last paragraph says it all.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I have been a sports junkie all my life, and as a result have watched a ton of hockey. I trust what i see when i watch a game, and am confident I can tell when a player hurts or helps a team.

      Murray as a 6th dman is helping the team. In an ideal world he is at best a 7th dman for this team, but at the present time i would rather he be on the ice than off it. The pairing last night for Murray with Frankie is difficult, as neither have tremendous skating abilities and both are at the end of their careers. But the intangibles Murray brings are required in todays NHL.

      At present Emelin is struggling, which is making Murray’s role even more important. I would like to see Diaz back in the lineup, at this point either Frankie or Emelin should take the game off against Philly.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I don’t bother reading them either Phil. I believe the foundation of those stats are how many goals the team scores when a specific player is on the ice?

      Anyhow, do the Habs put Murray on the ice for a faceoff in the opposing end or do they go with guys like Markov and Subban whenever possible?

      Does Murray get on the ice all the time with the team’s best players or is he playing with Moen, Prust and the 4th line the majority of the time?

      Is he paired up with Subban or Markov or is he out there with Gorges or Bouillon?

      What I’m saying is that of course he isn’t going to be on the ice for many goals. His job is to not allow goals and scoring goals while he’s on the ice is a complete afterthought!

      Half of Murray’s job description is to give you a steady defensive shift while the top offensive defenseman rest up!

      So ya, those stats are completely stupid.

      Advanced Hockey stats just don’t work the way that Football or Baseball stats do, so I generally ignore them. I also ignore them for the reasons you stated. Good post.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        I believe the foundation of those starts are how many goals the team scores when a specific player is on the ice?

        Mostly not.

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          Do you care to enlighten me than Dipsy?

          • DipsyDoodler says:

            There are all kinds of stats, but the basic idea of Corsi and Fenwick is that goals are too rare as events to make a useful index of puck possession.

            Both Corsi and Fenwick start from the premise that having the puck is better than the other team having the puck. They both use shots or shot attempts rather than goals as their basic measure.

            The predictive value of these stats has been established. However the main problem is that unlike baseball, it is very difficult to come up with an all-encompassing index of a player’s contribution to a team, because there are too many variables.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            Thanks Dipsy.

            Again though, is Murray going to be on the ice for a lot of shot attempts and shots when he’s playing limited minutes with Bouillon, Gorges, Diaz, Prust, Moen? Or when he’s not taking faceoffs in the offesive end.

            Anyway, off to work!

          • Phil C says:

            The predictive value of those stats have also been proven unreliable. See Gomez, Scott. I think the main reason for it is that corsi or fenwick do not consider the quality of the opportunity. A perimeter player may rack up a great corsi, but not really be a threat to score. Ditto for defensemen. He can give up a lot of perimeter opportunities while defending the really valuable ice vigorously. The stats are not yet capable of accounting for that, at least not that I am aware of.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Phil, you forgot truculence.

    • HardHabits says:

      I totally agree. Stats nerds are to hockey what trekkies are to science fiction.

      Stats prove nothing on their own if anything at all. At best, they can be used to support an argument and even at that never, ever tell the whole picture and at worst are utterly meaningless except to stimulate neurons not unlike the way porn stimulates hormones.

      Mental masturbation is all it is.

      • CJ says:

        Great point. Statistics are so easily manipulated. Truer indication of play is to watch a game live. I always feel I have a greater appreciation of who’s going and who’s standing around following a game in which I’ve been in the building.

    • rljmartin says:

      I am a Murray fan. Came in like such an underdog, can’t help but cheer for him. He has great anticipation, check out his recent forays into the offensive zone, out of nowhere appears Murray.
      More than stats, I would just love to know how Price feels about having Murray out there… that would be definitive for me.

  45. JF says:

    I’ve thought more and more lately that Plekanec would be a good captain. He is absolutely reliable, he gives his all every night, and he is passionate about the team. It’s true that he’s not the most vocal guy, but there is such a thing as being too vocal.

    P.K. Subban should one day be the captain, but I’m not sure he’s quite mature enough yet. He’s still only 24, he sometimes loses his composure, he occasionally says things that would be better left unsaid. But I think the day will come when the Habs have a flamboyant, electrifying captain who is as dominant off the ice as on.

    As for last night’s game, it was a great effort for forty minutes. Habs were flying, hitting, scoring goals. The third period was puzzling, but if the two disallowed goals had counted – and I firmly believe they should have – there would not have been so much tension. But if a team is trailing by a goal going into the third, they are obviously going to try to barrage the opposing net to tie it up. The defending team is very likely to be out-shot. Credit the Panthers for an excellent period, but credit the Habs for hanging on, and credit Price for a brilliant performance. A performance that was also very reassuring in that he had not looked so sharp the last couple of weeks.

    The Habs have been struggling a bit recently, but if you look at our last four games, we’ve taken 6 of a possible 8 points – two wins, two OT losses. Not too shabby.

    • CJ says:

      I really think PK is very mature, much beyond his age. The discussion regarding the captaincy should be reserved for the guys in that dressing room. They will make the most informed choice. That said, it’s always fun to speculate.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Jane – the voice of reason on HI/O. I totally agree with all the points you just made. Pleks for captain makes all the sense in the world. Once his time is done, we will have a much clearer picture concerning which young player will truly be best suited for the role.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      I don’t at all agree that PK is immature.

      He is not dour and joyless like Jonathan Toews. But he isn’t immature.

      I do agree on Plex followed by PK as captains.

  46. --Habs-- says:

    Not sure about anyone else here but I’m not blinded by the 55 points. I don’t want to be negative but when I watch this team its painful! Its a worrysome 55 points.

    “Habs” Watch and learn….! Or Not!

    • Cal says:

      Are the Habs that good or is the East that bad?
      I am leaning towards the latter.

    • 24 Cups says:

      I think most realistic fans realize that Montreal is not on the same par with Boston or Pittsburgh. The team also isn’t in the same league as the big six out West. Once you accept that fact then you can start analysing Montreal’s performance this year.

      All things considered, plus the fact that MB did nothing to improve the team last summer, I think you can say the Habs are doing OK.

    • I am pretty sure everyone knows they’re an alright team, most of us just choose to cheer for them anyway.

      I hate the way they win games, and I hate even more how they lose games.

      That may be confusing to the younger fans here (not you, but in general). But there’s a difference. You can lose a game to weaker team, but if you played hard, and it was just a great game by the other team then it’s acceptable, but lately (last 6 weeks) the wins were not easy, and the losses were just down right laughable.

      The team needs one more offensive player, and one more key defenseman.

      (off topic) Gionta is UFA this July, in my opinion he is not a part of future. Resigning him would be a mistake, so move him asap (keep scoring Gio, I love you but you need to help this team in another way….rebuilding)

      And as scary as this sounds, Markov may be gone to (deadline) PK is getting some crazy coin, and he (Markov) and Gionta make 10.75 mil, not rocket science there.

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    • CJ says:


      Alternatively one might conclude that the team has reached 55 points, a very nice start that puts us on pace for approximately 100 this season, despite not yet playing their best hockey. In which case, things might actually get better. I love reading all the comments here, but am sometimes confused with the negativity and skepticism. Name me any team in the east and I can blast holes in their team, the same way we love to do to ours. Pittsburgh? Never going to win with Fluery in net. Boston, we have their number. The field, wide open. Go habs!

    • JUST ME says:

      For as much as i would like to bash on the Habs for no reason , i fail to understand why it is that for any reason the negative side of the game is always their burden. Yes, a lot of their wins have been ugly,lucky or anything you want to call them but it does take a winner and a loser.

      But win or lose, the Habs need to be blamed right ? If they win it`s because the opponent is weak right ? If they lose it`s because the Habs are not up to par right ?

      Do they have what it takes to make it to the big mug ? Who knows ? I think we know but it`s funny how usually we say that the playoff is another season and we should not judge from the 82 games played but not for the Habs…

  47. HabinBurlington says:

    DId anybody else hear Patty Roy talk about his goaltender after the game yesterday?

    • Can’t imagine but I watched the third, and the Avs were horrible in there own end, and JS still plays with his stick off the ice (they are all taught that now which is stupid. While standing they keep the stick off the ice so that when they hit the butterfly the stick is in the perfect deflection position)

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      • HabinBurlington says:

        He flat out called out Jiggy and said he needs to stand up and say he isn’t playing well enough. And that he hasn’t played well the past 4-5 games.

        • CJ says:

          He is totally right. That said, using the media as a public forum doesn’t always work. Hope they bounce back and hammer Ottawa.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I’m not the least interested if he is right, but if the Montreal Head Coach spoke that way about a player, it would be huge news here. That is my point, he may even be fine to use the media, but that style of coaching wouldn’t go over well here.

  48. 24 Cups says:

    Couture is injured and will be out for three to four weeks.

    Stamkos skated for 30 minutes yesterday.

    Interesting to note that the roster does not become final until two hours before the first game which I believe is Feb 12.

    Temmu Selanne will be playing in his 6th Olympic games. Alas, Saku Koivu was not named to the Finnish team. Canada is in Pool B along with Finland, Norway and Austria.

    • Cal says:

      Hey Steve. Stamkos should be left off the squad as he will barely get a game in before the Olympic tournament starts. And yes, I know he’s Canada’s best goal scorer, but there are others that can take up the slack.
      Players rushing back from injury to be on the team have a big motivation. They all want to be on the world stage come February. Calmer heads must prevail and ensure the best healthy team is iced.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Cal – It’s 37 days until the first game, no to mention that the first three Olympic games don’t really count. So I think it’s safe to say that Stamkos has six weeks to get ready.

        You would have to be an insider to really know what the time line is for his total recovery but one of Canada’s main problems is scoring goals and Stamkos is the 2nd best goal scorer in the world next to Ovechkin. He also just turns 24 next month and has a great attitude. Canada has to take the chance. They can always fly in another guy from the taxi squad on Feb 11th if they feel he can’t play at 100%.

    • JUST ME says:

      There will be great players left aside. Stamkos should be one but i doubt he will. Hockey Canada sees the game as the country club does. Having players that will play a role within a specific game plan , the same one we just witnessed at WJC.

      I am afraid that players like P.K. who can out of the blue take the team to another level will not be considered. Hockey is just a game, P.K. is still having fun and the best in the sport are all players who enjoy the game for what it is. Unfortunately winning the gold medal is a big business for Hockey Canada not a game…

  49. mcmikel says:

    The striped figure skaters have taken away five goals over the past eight days fro the Habs… is anyone else outraged?

  50. Maritime Ronn says:

    Good morning

    In the “Oh no, let’s hope it aint so” category, this was written yesterday.

    About Carey and an injury, was anyone at the open practice Sunday?

    Some info out there that during the 1-on-1 skills against the goalies, the guys were making all kinds of moves and plays against Budaj….yet when it came to Price, the players were shooting from longer range, and not 1 guy tried a deke on Carey.

    Is that last playoff groin issue re-emerging?
    Then this after the game last night.

    BrianWilde @BWildeCTV
    Price confirms that he did tweak his groin a little in the first. #ch #habs
    Just don’t like the sound of that at all…

    • Cal says:

      Looks like Price should take a week off or two to ensure a recovery. Otherwise, it will get a lot worse.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Played pretty well with a tweak. Budaj plays a few games and Price will be fine. If it was worse than a tweak he would have been pulled I would think.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Price is a huge competitor, and it wouldn’t be a surprise if he played hurt.
        Let’s hope he’s smart and doesn’t allow that competitiveness to hurt both the team and himself in the long run.

  51. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    I love Price and am a proud Canadian, but if Subban is left off the team, I’m rooting for Plex and the Chex!

  52. RetroMikey says:

    Today is January 7.
    I want to wish all Orthodox Christians out there a Merry Christmas!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  53. John Q Public says:

    Please dis Subban.
    I want him rested with a chip on his shoulder.
    He can go for long walks with Larry and contemplate life.
    As for captain why not.
    But every time I hear players comment about the captaincy it seems pretty irrelevant for them.
    Oh yeah fire the coach.

  54. JUST ME says:

    We have been on the winning end of difficult battles. At the begining of the season we would take the lead and deal with the situation but lately we have had to battle back and make our way to the lead of the game and keep it that way.
    Important thing is that somehow and in many ways we keep stacking up those points that are more and more valuable in a period of time when nothing seems to come easy. Although i am not sure that we have everything it takes to be a contender , i know that there will be other ups and downs and that we will have to deal with other kind of situations so, let`s not conslude to anything right now and work hard.

  55. John Frodo says:

    Congrats to SuperpleXXXe, but there is a typo in that statement, honour not hours.

    Its so cold Nazim kadri is moving his feet when he does not have the the puck.

    • John Frodo says:

      Its so cold Micheal Therin is burning the notebooks Jacques Martins left behind. The problem is the cold spell will only last about a week and there is a ten year supply of note books.

  56. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning friends.

    Disgusted! I had to shut the game off midway through the first. Still seething over the officiating Saturday night and the justification of it by some, “well technically the officials have been instructed to call a penalty when the stick is……. bullcrap).

    I started watching the Rangers vs Bluejacket game and counted the number of times a similar play was made that PK was called for on Saturday. I counted 10 in 10 minutes. Guess how many got called?

    Then I flipped to the start of the Hab vs Panther game. In 5 minutes I counted a dozen similar “hooks”. Guess how many got called?

    Oh yeah, and if you took the over 1 1/2 disallowed Hab goals last night, you won!

    I yearn for the days when a puck entering the net is counted as a goal. Of course I have no proof of bias against the Habs but I gotta tell you its a WWE-like coincidence at least. Disgusting and I couldn’t take any more last night.

    I’m glad the players and most fans could move on from Saturday night. I can’t. I’m disgusted.

    • JohnBellyful says:

      Jim, you might want to switch to decaffeinated [grins, raises eyebrows].
      Or go heavy on the whiskey during the games to dull the pain, or if it’s a boring contest, ease the dullness.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Believe me it was worse live. I even got one of those, “If it angers you so, why do you bother watching” statements from Janet. I replied, “You know, you’re right!” And I turned it off and read a book. Sigh.

    • Cal says:

      It’s a long season, but this one has been especially frustrating for we fans of PK. All the bs spouted by good old boy Babcock and the rest of his cronies on Team Canada, listing utter crap about why PK isn’t suitable. PK is so unsuitable he won the bleeping Norris. Obviously, that qualifies him to be not good enough to be on Team Canada.
      And, yes, the refs are full of it, too, but we can’t hang on to poor judgment calls because we’ll go all apoplectic.

      I had to laugh at the disallowed goals, too. If the Habs score, it must be reviewed!

    • Morning Jim. Too funny, I was doing the same thing. Flipping between the three games that were on at the time and watching the refs.

      I’m not angry over the PKgated, Therrien stood up at the podium and stood up for him, so at least we know we aren’t disillusioned habs colored fans.

      And lastly PK was very smart about how he choice his words. He made that ref look pretty darn silly and without crossing the line into suspension territory.

      Like I said that night (Sat). PK for three years PK was chirping, and semi diving all over the place. This season is not even a shell of his former self, he’s the perfect defenseman but now any border call near him and he gets the gate, where other players in the same situation get nothing.

      Even last night that call was weak (interference). Sure he held him back but it was no more or less than any other face-off, but PK won’t get the breaks for a couple more seasons.

      Screw them all, PK is the best. (Off topic) It’s about time Therrien released him, sure he (PK) makes some mistakes but in the end we’ll win more than we lose.


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  57. Eddie says:

    If Plekanec is named captain, Eller will be traded. No way Deshanais is moved.

  58. HabsFanInSaintJohn says:

    That article about Douglas Murray is a tad rough IMO…We all know he has limited capabilities but the guy has been a warrior for us so far witht he limited time he has had to play…Ill take him being slow and hard to move off the puck than fast and gets pushed over easily lol

    • DadidolizedDougHarvey says:

      I like Murray, just not on the ice at the same time as Boullion.

    • JUST ME says:

      I am afraid that we sometimes think that HIO is the center of the universe led by Cowan and/or Boone that are always positive towards the Habs position within the league…. Critics have been harsh towards the D-squad while this one is still within the best in the league in the goals allowed department. So the guys have been doing the job they were hired for and do not deserve to be the target of easy amateurish critics.

      There is only one point that needs to be fixed with the Habs defense. Guys like Bouillon,Murray ,Diaz and Emelin would benefit from a day off here and there depending on who is the opponent. That leaves you short of one guy somehow even more so if one guy gets to be injured or if you have a Gorges who sometimes has a hard time keeping up with the play.

      Graduating kids from Hamilton is not a solution sooooo…..

  59. Cal says:

    I see a link below to the Corsi and Fenwick boys stating that Murray is the worst Dman in the NHL. That means the Habs should keep playing him and up his ice time. He’s been a plus the past couple games and the Habs took 3 of 4 points. So, yeah, he is probably the slowest Hab by a long way. However, he is the hardest hitting Dman the Habs have right now, including Emelin.
    Onward to Broad Street!

    • doc359 says:

      Not knowing what article you are refering too, I believe those stats were looked at when Murray was signed, not through this season.

      Murray has definitely played up to the level of a 6-th defenseman who knows his role.

      But god, having Bull in there instead of Diaz is killing me.

  60. JohnBellyful says:

    The brain trust charged with picking Canada’s Olympic men’s hockey team files into the room, where a couple of sports journalists are already seated, set to report on the deliberations that go into choosing a 25-man roster.
    A anxious nation awaits its announcement.
    Each of the officials has on an elaborate disguise. One wears a Groucho Marx nose and moustache with eye-glasses; another is made up to resemble Bozo the Clown.
    One has assumed the appearance of Canada’s first prime minister, while another bears an uncanny likeness to the current PM. Wait a minute, it IS the current prime minister, sporting a waxen face.
    The fellow in the Flash outfit calls for quiet so the meeting can resume after a short recess.
    Flash: Well, gentlemen, we’re down to our final player selection. It’s well past midnight and I know it’s been a long day, especially having to wear these outfits for obvious reasons [glances over to the two reporters, who shrug and stifle a yawn].
    Phantom of the Opera: No need to apologize, Stee–I mean Flash. We don’t want a repeat of the Brian Burke fiasco. Best to stay anonymous so we can speak freely and not have to worry about our words coming back to bite us in the butt [looks disgustedly at the reporters, who are preoccupied with cleaning their fingernails while trying to stay awake].
    Batman: Okay, okay, enough with the recap crap. Let’s get on with it: Subban or Boyle?
    The Shadow: Well, you all know how I feel. Boyle. There’s no way you can trust Subban on the back end. He’s a loose cannon out there.
    Daisy Mae: Oh, he’s a cannon alright but that shot of his doesn’t make up for his defensive shortcomings.
    Frankenstein: Yeah, he hangs on the puck too long and is prone to gaffes, which the team can’t afford in a short high-stakes tournament where a mistake at the wrong time could send you home early.
    Horse’s Ass: And he can get uppity. That’s all we’d need, to get on the wrong side of the officials overseas. He could turn the referees against us with his mouth, and there goes any hope of a medal.
    Cactus plant: Absolutely. Another thing that scares me, is his going for the big check, missing, allowing the guy to go in alone on our goalie. Price might be used to it, but we’ve already decided he won’t be starting. I don’t think it’s fair to put that kind of pressure on Bernier, [nods to the prime minister, who returns the nod], having a defenceman in the lineup who’s such a liability.
    Phantom, Batman, The Shadow, Daisy Mae, Frankenstein, Horse’s Ass: Hear, hear!
    Flash: Okay, it’s settled then, Boyle is our eighth defenceman? [Agreement all around]
    [The two reporters furiously finish writing their notes and dash out of the room.]
    Daisy Mae [watching them leave with a smile on his face]: I’m glad we came up with the idea of wearing costumes so no one individual could get pilloried for speaking his mind. How can they quote Batman or Frankenstein? [Chuckles] They’d be laughed out of the business.
    [The room breaks up in gales of laughter, which ends quickly when one of the hockey eggheads looks around at the others and then glances down at his chest, and gapes .]
    Cactus plant: What’s the matter, Frank’?
    Frankenstein: Dammit to hell!!! We forgot to take our %$&*%^* name tags off!

  61. topher5468 says:

    I don’t like being negative after a win but damn, that 3rd was ugly. Something needs to be done with this teams ineptitude in the face off circle. I really can’t understand why we keep letting Florida out work us. Tired?, no excuse. this team was one and done n the O zone while Fla was great, constantly finding the open man, effective cycling and always a man in front of the net. Maybe MT should show the team the tape of how Fla kicked their butts in the 3rd.

    I hope PK makes it, we all know he deserves it, as for being Captain, well, he is our best player but i’m not sure he is mature enough for that.

    “It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”

  62. Cape Breton says:

    Terrible 3rd. Hang on and let Price do it all. Can’t be doing that all the time.

  63. jrs10069 says:

    I thought the game was very entertaining for a change, nice surprise for the Panthers on a Monday night.

    All kinds of chances for both teams. Multiple guys playing better / much better, DD, Moen, Briere. Some guys still sucking bad, Bourque, Emelin.

    I don’t understand the D pairings. Markov and E are clearly not working and Murray and Boullion can’t work so wtf do you put yourself in that position?

    We taking bets on PK making team C? I put a $5 down that he doesn’t. Everyone else on the team is a straight arrow, don’t think Yz or B-cock who are 2 of the stiffest douchebags going (they give harper a run) will chance it with him.

    Unfortunate but true, you heard it here first.


  64. Buzz Lightbeer says:

    Where are Bill and UCE? Seems like some empty reading around here lately.

  65. rhino514 says:

    If Gionta gets going, the team will be very tough to beat.
    What´s up with Emelin? Played less than 13 minutes and no hits. Obviously we shouldn´t count on him regaining his full form this year and they should do everything possible to add a solid dman at the deadline if Pateryn isn´t ready.

  66. CH Marshall says:

    Another great ALN. I hadn’t read it yet and was thinking to myself, Pleks should be the next captain.

    I had to strain past my first two reactions regarding Darche’s suggestion of PK becoming captain. My first one being- he can’t be serious, he’s played with PK and knows he can get emotional as a young player. My second being- aha this is a good contrarian strategy that runs against the popular idea prevalent in the media and management etc….. And then I realized- it’s good business. PK and Price are the face of the franchise… and especially with PK, he breaks down social barriers and is extremely marketable.

    • Savardian Spin-o-rama says:

      Darche’s endorsement says it all wrt to P.K’s stature in the room. No way does an insider back a guy who ISN’T (1) well respected; (2) at least tolerated if not liked. So a big phat phewy to all those Subbanhaters out there. Three cheers for our man, #76…

      P.K is okay
      P.K is okay
      P.K is okay
      Good enough for Canada, eh?

      Better be.

  67. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Whoa, hold on a second… While Timo’s post about PK was full of vitriol, none of it was directed at PK or any of the other Habs, coaching staff, or management. Somebody call 911 in Calgary! Timo’s had a stroke!

  68. Timo says:

    If Price tweaked his groin he needs a massage… pronto.

  69. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Seventh Heathen.

  70. Timo says:

    And another thing… If Doughty and Weber are so much better Subban, how come he is the one that won the Norris? Why is nobody questioning that these 2 are a lock as #1 and #2 as right handed D? Why not Subban being a lock and let these other punks sweat for their spots. Hockey Canada is BS.

    • CH Marshall says:

      Absolutely agree. Hockey Canada is just BS politics. IMO they should play Subban precisely because he is a dangerous factor. He can probably outskate the opponent at will, can go end to end on rushes, and is a physical force. I believe we haven’t even seen what he is fully capable of as he plays for the CH under various coaches. Other nations can watch tape all they want, but Subban is a BEAST, and it would be a strategic error to not use him.

    • Dust says:

      Well I like Pk. A lot.
      Weber and Doughty are both better all around Dman than PK though.

      As far as the Norris trophy goes. It has become a trophy for the D with the most points not really the best D in my opinion.
      I think PK deserves to make team canada and will. I don’t know why people care so much though. AS far as I’m concerned I don’t care who plays for team Canada or what nhl team they play for. As long as they compete hard and hopefully win the gold

  71. slyCH says:

    Really Boone, NO! With all due respect. (Especially after my last blowout with you) You can’t put the strong-arm of a nation in the hands of the ‘old guard” without a fight…Meaning, don’t let them beat this country down without a God damn fight. Don’t let them place prejudice before talent. Because, really, that is what is happening in the case of PK. PK deserves a spot on our national team. PK will bring gold to this country. PK will be the first to deserve it.

    • matrags says:

      Ah , yes there it is the elephant in the room , regardless even if Subban is awarded a consolation seat in the press bx as a reserve ,why , why , has his potential placing on this team generated sooo much discussion by the talking heads covering our game . What is it about PK that makes him the subject of all that scrutiny. I wonder?

  72. Timo says:

    I think Murray needs to sit a game. I like him a lot but he looked pretty bad today. One game would do him a lot of good. Unfortunately Habs are playing Philly next so they need him. Maybe he can take a rest after that. Habs need to tighten things up in their own end in general. Lots of time can’t clear the zone, get stuck chasing Panthers skating circles around them, giving up the blue line way too easy.

  73. Timo says:

    When was the last time Habs won convincingly? It was Florida Panthers for crying out loud. Man, that was painful to watch, especially in the third. Sigh.

    • slyCH says:

      They lost to them last time…1-4. Dec, 29. In other words, The PANTHERS beat the HABS by a score of 4-1 on december 29th 2013. That is the ultimate truth.

      You are reaching very far Tomi….

    • PeterD says:

      Habs won…I’m convinced.
      Time to give your “it’s awefull, everything is rotten” schitck a rest Timo…it is wearing very thin.
      Maybe s bit of good ‘ol homer cheering would be a welcome change.

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