About last night …


Your Montreal Canadiens have played great hockey – and, let’s be honest – surprised more than a few of their fans for the last four weeks.
They were due to dial up a stinker.
And they did.
The Los Angeles Kings hadn’t won a game on Montreal ice since 1999.
Two seasons removed from a Stanley Cup and still blessed with a powerful lineup, the Kings were due to win a game in the 514 area code.
And they did.


The Kings put six on the board against a team that hadn’t given up more than four goals in any game this season – and had given up two or fewer in 12 of their last 14 starts.

The Canadiens actually outshot L.A. 31-30; but shots, in this case, are a poor indicator of what transpired in the game.

Similarly, the Canadiens’ 32-24 advantage in hits might lead one to conclude the home team won the physical battles. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

The Kings are big, fast and skilled. They won every puck battle they needed to win.

L.A. worked the boards effectively and enjoyed a succession of wide-open looks in front of Carey Price and Peter Budaj. The Canadiens, by contrast, couldn’t penetrate the well-protected zone in front of rookie Kings’ goaltender Martin Jones.

Brendan Gallagher and, on a couple of occasions, Alex Galchenyuk were the only Canadiens who got close enough to ascertain the colour of Jones’s eyes. The other forwards worked at such remove they could barely make out the logo on his jersey.

Look, the Kings are a very good hockey team. They did the things – controlling the slot at both ends, winning battles along the boards – Pierre McGuire predicted they would during his spot on Mitch Melnick’s Tuesday afternoon show.

Jeff Carter was almost invisible, but it didn’t matter. Anze Kopitar (a goal, an assist, 11-3 on faceoffs) and Mike Richards were outstanding. Drew Doughty outplayed P.K., and veteran Willie Mitchell was on for four of L.A.’s five even-strength goals.

The only Canadiens who escaped the Minus column were Alex Galchenyuk, Travis Moen, Ryan White and Raphael Diaz. Andrei Markov and Alexei Emelin were each minus-3.

The game might have gone differently had the Canadiens been able to cash an early power play. With Doughty off for tripping 38 seconds into the game, the Canadiens bombarded Jones with seven shots on goal. None went in. On two subsequent first-period PPs, the Canadiens fired blanks.

The other turning point occurred with the score 1-0 and the first period ticking down. Daniel Brière iced the puck with 17 seconds left. Anze Kopitar beat Lars Eller on the faceoff, worked a give-and-go with Mike Richards and snapped a 30-footer past Price.

Late-period scores in one-goal games are kicks in the area where it hurts to be kicked.

Two-zip: effectively over – and decisively over when Price was beaten on two of the first four shots he faced in the second period. Peter Budaj let in two of the nine shots he faced as the King outshot the home team 13-3 in the middle period.

It was a butt-kicking through 40 minutes. By the time the third period began, the Bell Centre’s lower bowl looked like a Pauline Marois rally in Hampstead.

What shall we conclude from this unmerciful stomping of our erstwhile Atlantic Division leaders?

Hey, every team has an off night.

Well, maybe not the 1976-’77 Canadiens. But the 2012-’13 edition of the team lost 6-0 to Toronto at the Bell Centre last February. Fresh off a humiliation that had the Hockey Night in Canada Leaf-blowers leaning back on their pillows to smoke a cigarette, the Canadiens travelled to Tampa Bay and beat the Lightning in a Shootout to launch a five-game winning streak.

The Canadiens don’t get to lick their 6-0 wounds in the Florida sun this time. They are in wintery Philadelphia – did you see that crazy football game? – to play the Flyers Thursday night, then travel on to Long Island for a rare Saturday night road game. Then the Canadiens are home to the Florida Panthers on Sunday.

As ship-righting schedules go, things could be worse.

Let’s see how the team reacts to their worst loss of the season.





  1. nova scotia vees says:

    P.K. Was not out-played. Why must it always come back to P.K Boone?
    And while L.A are strong..the refs decided this game. When it was1-0 Habs should have had a 2 man advantage. DD tripped at centre…ignored. And then one of our forwards gets tripped inside the blueline. Stick stuck in his skate! Now add the 2 goalie interference non calls. League is fixed.

  2. theox_8 says:

    Even Mike Milbury wouldn’t trade Bogosian for Gorges .

  3. Dr.Rex says:

    What would be the reaction if the Habs traded:

    Pacioretty and Gorges for E Kane and Bogosian.

    • Phil C says:

      Kane and Pacioretty would be considered somewhat even, but Bogosian is younger, bigger, faster, meaner, and more offensive than Gorges with a lot more upside potential. Lopsided trade in Montreal’s favour.

    • The Dude says:

      I’d be amazed….And for those who ponder trading the Black Bobby Orr known as PK Subban “some say for prospects” ,do me a favor and type Mandela till your fingers go stubby.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      shock, anguish, joy, surprise, anger, indifference, laughter, skepticism, rage, happiness, confusion.

      edit: + amazement

    • Habfan17 says:

      I would say the habs would have to add LeBlanc or Diaz, some other pice as Bogosian is a better younger player than Gorges and I am not sure I would want Kane over Patches.

      Having said that, it would be interesting and I would like to have Bogosian on the right side on the second pairing


    • habsman-itoba says:

      If you’ve ever watched Kane play a few games, you’d know why this trade is not a good idea.

      Kane, at least so far this season, is like what happens after eating 4 bowls of Raisin Bran……a floater.

  4. Thomas Le Fan says:

    A lot of bills came due last night. I only watched the first period, however, and wasshisname the King’s goaltender stood on his head. If we could have grabbed a quick lead, it might have been a much different game.

    There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk but … there is fighting in hockey.

  5. mksness says:

    yesterday was an example of back to earth goaltending and defence. big rebounds and no push back to the kinds net presence. Every bounce has been going the habs way lately and last night it went all against them. it’s not a big deal unless it continues to happen

    that being said expect price’s numbers to drop a bit because it’s almost impossible for him to allow only 2 goals a game for the whole year. same as it is hard for the D to only give up 2 goals a game. all those shot block will eventually lead to some broken plays or deflections which will lead to goals

    my issue last night though was the offence. habs kept trying to skate through 3 king players. the kings were trapping and you have to dump the puck and overload the other wing. habs did not do this at all and their 28 shots were teh weakest 28 shots i have seen all year. all from bad angles or with very little on them.

  6. Maritime Ronn says:

    Bill (Kirk Muller) says below:

    Let’s say the Habs DID trade Subban … they could get a pretty amazing package in return…..a Subban trade is probably the one way to do a substantial roster change quickly.
    For some Habs fans that could/would be considered pure blasphemy, yet Bill does bring forth an intriguing thought certainly considering ALL the factors involved at this time….

    Please know I am not advocating for a PK trade – just some thoughts with the Habs best interests at heart.

    If we park ‘ PK-Emotion’ for 1 small moment, what do we have in the Big Picture?

    First off, we all know that PK and clan (Don Meehan-Newport Sports Agency) will most likely want something north of $8M per year – more likely 8 years/$68M-$70M with the news of the Cap.
    There is also a possibility that an ugly Arbitration fight could also be on the horizon.

    No one really knows how this will play out…and what IF Subban only wants to sign for 4 years.
    What IF there are still ______ questions in the Habs org. moving forward concerning other items we all are NOT privy to?

    Now let’s say you are Dale Talon in Florida.
    Your team is in a desperate need for a shake-up, and you also desperately need a ‘Marketing Star’ and wonderful hockey player to somehow push start your franchise…or you’re out of a job.

    What does Florida have on its Roster?

    – 21 years old Quebec born Jonathan Huberdeau, and 18 year old Alexander Barkov.
    – Ottawa born 21 year old 6’5″-210 Erik Gudbranson and 23 year old Dmitry Kulikov.

    Let’s say GM Bergevin could pry Huberdeau and Gudbranson (Markov mentor) for Subban….or some other combo, yet those would be the main characters.

    Do you do the deal?

    Then the Business of Hockey.
    Those Florida 2 are still on Entry Level contracts and the next ones would be the Bridge.
    This would free up even more several millions of dollars to spend in other places to upgrade the Habs.

    That is just 1 single example of potential trading partners.
    There are so many others with perhaps better youth/potential.

    The question becomes:
    Are the Habs better in the long term with Subban, or are they better with a Monster Return in a PK trade when his value could not be any higher?

    • bwoar says:

      One piece to add to this: Any trade for Subban, in my mind, would have to include the 1st overall pick and the potential to draft Conner McDavid.


    • Ozmodiar says:

      Hell no, you don’t make that trade!

      … it’s much better than the LAK package mentioned below, though.

    • mksness says:

      subban either extends for 1-2 years or the league max (doubtful on 4)

      habs will lose every deal with subban. most of the habs offence is generated on the PP. Subban is responsible for most of it with markov. He’s also the best D on the team. take him away and you’re in big trouble because without him you’re not getting the puck out of your zone which will lead to a lot of chances against.

      also florida is a budget team. i don’t think they would make that trade to spend 7-8 a year on a player and then have a bunch of other holes to fill

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Only an insane G.M. would want to be known as the idiot who traded P.K. There is no upside to that trade. Subban has not reached his full potential nor have the young Habs prospects. This is not a Cup winning team yet and to do something that idiotic to perhaps go further this year and draft lower in June is just NOT WISE.

      There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk but … there is fighting in hockey.

    • montreal ace says:

      I have thought of that trade with Florida many times, I think we would be a better club.

  7. B says:

    Anyone notice that St. Patrick’s mighty Avalanche recently got walloped 8-2 by the lowly Oilers? For those who may be wondering, Roy left his goalie in for all 8 goals that game.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  8. Bogie Man says:

    Canadiens announced MacPac and Gorges taking therapy days. Perhaps a trade in the works? Or really just a therapy day..

  9. Rad says:

    Another set of 3 games in 4 nights coming up. However, the opposition is not of the same caliber as last week.

    • B says:

      Have you noticed the schedule after the Olympic break? They come back to 7 games in 11 nights vs Det, Pit, Tor, LA, Ana, Pho and SJ (on the road vs Pit, LA, Ana, Pho and SJ). They then get a couple days off to head back home to play Boston.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  10. SteverenO says:

    Breaking down the forward lines on the PowerPlay focus on centers

    player: PP TOI / % of TOI / team PPGF/%of PPGF /G perMin on/off ice

    team: 175 / 100% / 22 /100%/ .270 Success 7.4 / NA

    Eller: 62 /33.5%/ 7 / 28% /.226 Success/8.9 on ice / 6.8 off ice
    DD: 60 /32.4%/ 7 / 28% /.233 Success/8.6 on ice / 6.9 off ice
    Plek: 59 /31.8%/ 10/ 40% /.339 Success/5.9 on ice / 8.4 off ice

    Including into last night’s game, the Habs overall have scored a PP goal once every 7.4 minutes (.270).

    With Plekanec on the ice the Habs have scored a PP goal every 5.9 minutes a. 339 success rate.

    With Plekanec NOT on the ice the PP has averaged one goal every 8.4 minutes , a success rate of (.238).

    When Plekanec was getting 45 -50% of the PP time ,the team was top 3 in the NHL PP rankings. Lately Plekanec is playing about 25% of the PP time and we are 7th,and dropping fast

    If there is anyone who can explain why Plekanec has only played 32% of the ice time with the man advantage, please share.


    Steve O.

  11. HabinBurlington says:

    So Canada Post is going to stop delivering mail door to door, increase the cost of stamps, and then they will be financially viable. No Sh*t Sherlock, perhaps the gov’t could just mandate all Canadians buy x amount of stamps every year and not have Canada Post deliver anything, they could really make money then.

    • B says:

      Why not only deliver every other week day?

      –Go Habs Go!–

    • Luke says:

      Wait… so the ‘business’ that delivers mail only needs to stop delivering mail to be viable? Doens’t that actually make them unncesessary?

      • HabinBurlington says:

        But they would be profitable then, doesn’t one almost already view them as unnecessary? Obviously I am being sarcastic, but given this crown corporation has raised the cost of stamps beyond the average inflation rate for years and still can’t be cost effective, perhaps they need to get out of that business all together.

  12. Bill says:

    Are the guys who “updated” this app just trying to troll us with this no paragraph thing?? It’s driving me crazy. It’s completely unacceptable.

  13. FANHABULOUS says:

    Seriously folks, this “we are too small to compete” thing is waaaay overblown again, which seems to only happen after we lose. How come we’re not too small when we win 9 out of 10 games?

    Fact: we beat almost all of the so-called top-tier teams already this year:

    Boston – check
    Pens – check
    Ducks – check
    Caps – check
    Canucks – check
    Leafs – check (ok, so they’re not top tier, but still feels good!)

    Anyhow, when we win, everyone says “we outskated them, our speed helps us win etc etc”. When we lose, its automatically because we’re too small.

    Guys…we just had a bad game. End of analysis, and no need to trade everyone right now. Here’s what Engels has to say:

    “Heard a lot of people bemoaning the size issue after last night’s game against the Kings. The Habs didn’t look small against San Jose earlier this year–despite the loss, they didn’t look small in beating Anaheim, they didn’t look small in a 3-2 OT loss to the Blues, they didn’t look small against the Leafs, and they definitely didn’t look small against the Bruins less than a week ago. ”
    “You will not regret picking me” – PK Subban.

  14. Bill says:

    I shouldn’t be, but I’m actually surprised that the negative Nellies of HIO are shameless enough to come on and post these ridiculous overreactions and absurd analyses after ONE LOSS IN TEN GAMES.

    Apparently the Habs are terrible and too small to win a game. That is why they have lost every game this year, obviously.

    • FANHABULOUS says:

      Hear hear Bill… I was just posting the same thing, you beat me to it!

      “You will not regret picking me” – PK Subban.

    • B says:

      Stubbs recently tweeted:

      “One loss & métro drivers are on alert. Montreal: only city where #Habs going 9-1-1 in last 11 means a call to that phone number”

      –Go Habs Go!–

  15. jeffhabfan says:

    Wow that was ugly just have to step up tomorrow night and win so we do not go into a slump. I would hate to see us have a great run only to follow it up with a slump and then we are back to being a bubble team.GO HABS GO.

  16. Bill says:

    Let’s say the Habs DID trade Subban … they could get a pretty amazing package in return.

    I’m not saying do it, but if you really dislike the make-up of the team – too small, soft, whatever – a Subban trade is probably the one way to do a substantial roster change quickly.

    What if LA were willing to give us Toffoli, Muzzin, and Clifford? Obviously hypothetical, but you know Bergevin could get some nice players back for Subban. It’s worth consideration.

    I would never myself of course. Last night’s debacle notwithstanding, this is still a really good hockey team.

  17. homerbowen says:

    I don’t buy the theory that “every team gets blown out once in a while”. We lost a lot of momemtum after failing to score early but a lot of those scoring chances weren’t really dangerous anyway. Our big weakness as I saw it last night was not having Murray dressed. While he has some downside clearing the front of the net is not one of them. Poor decision by MT to dress Boullion as well as the ice time given to Briere (useless) over Bournival. Our small players continue to get bounced off the puck by the much bigger LA team.
    I’m concerned with MT’s coaching decisions and don’t think he will be successful as an NHL coach.

  18. CHicoHab says:

    Remove these 3 pieces. Murray , Diaz, Boullion and the team will improve automatically. Replace with who is everyone’s guess. But it’s a start. Realistically Murray is horrible. Diaz cannot defend or hit the net offensively. And Bouillion for the price is iffy but we can get better.

  19. Sean Bonjovi says:

    Here’s what really happened last night. The Canadiens played a really good first period. They probably should have had a lead after the first, and the Kings size wasn’t much of a factor when the Canadiens were peppering their goalie with good shots, but they lost track of a guy on a Kings line change and he beat Price with the only 3 inches Price gave him. Then they gave up that goal near the end of the first. Then they game up the goal at the beginning of the 2nd. At that point the team probably thought the same thing that I did which was that the L.A. Kings aren’t going to blow a 3 goal lead. After that it gets a whole lot harder to stand in front of the net or dig the puck puck out of the corners when you know that you’re probably still going to lose the game and that has Absolutely Nothing to do with the size of the players on your team or the team you’re playing against.

    P.S. I’d like to see us trade Lars Eller. I’ve seen enough of this guy going to the wrong part of the ice and making bad decisions with the puck, and he’s exactly the kind of over-rated player that teams would pay top dollar for in a trade. I say move Eller and Diaz for sure and maybe Bourque or DD and bring in a real 1st line left wing. I’d even throw in Nathan Beaulieu if there was a guy like Drouin, or Huberdeau available. If the Avalanche want to move Gabriel Landeskog they could have any 3 players not name Galchenyuk, Subban, or Price if it were up to me.

  20. Bripro says:

    It’s obvious that this site is due for an injection of Christmas spirit.
    Yeah, yeah, it’s early… I know. So shoot me.
    But for those who are impressed by all that is Christmas, and you think you’ve got the decorations nailed, I guarantee you will pale by comparison to this.
    Let’s forget last nights Hindenburg and enjoy…. put the sound on.
    And Cheers!


  21. SteverenO says:

    On the topic of referees :

    Instead of having two refs on the ice why not have one of them upstairs, with a microphone and an earpiece to be able to communicate with the on-ice referee.
    There are surely many things that can be seen from up high that can not be seen from ice level.

    In fact ideally there would be 5 officials watching from upstairs, one watching each player of the home team on the ice and calling every foul committed by them or against them.

    When the players learn, and it won’t take long ,that EVERY violation will be called , the game will be much more enjoyable to watch.

    Also someone on TSN made a great point yesterday about the trapezoid where the goalie is not allowed to play the puck.

    The game would be much better of the goalie was not allowed BEHIND his own net. thereby freeing up the offense to fire the puck around the boards to create more offense and more room.

    Preventing the goalie form handling the puck in the corners only leads to defensemen getting punished by the wingers when they go back to retrieve the puck with their backs to the play.


    Steve O.

    • Mustang says:

      I, for one, feel that the NHL refs are very inconsistant. Last night a player was standing on the blue paint well behind Price when a goal was scored and allowed to stand. A week ago a player was just partly on the blue paint, not even close to Price when a goal was scored but disallowed. You can have all the rules you want but until there is some sort of consistency in the way the refs make their calls, little will change.

      I would like to see a clear set of rules applied on a consistant basis as to what players can, and cannot, do in and around the crease. My feeling is that an opposing player cannot enter ther crease unless the puck is already there. Even then he should not be allowed to interfere with the goaltender. As far as the goalies go, they should be allowed to go anywhere they want (no stupid trapezoid) outside their crease and play the puck. However, when a goalie is outside his crease and he is playing the puck, he should be just like any other player and therefore be physically involved in the play. That is, he is out of his crease and playing the puck, he should be prepared to be checked.

  22. Even a terrible NHL team will be reasonably competitive in a game against a good team probably 75% of the time. When the score is 6-0, it’s due to a combination of things: preparation, mindset, X’s and O’s, and yes skill/grit, but also a lot of luck… As Boone says, if one of our first 7 PP shots goes in, it’s a different game.

    We can probably guess at some of those factors — not excuses but reasons, to be worked on for next time. I’d guess that, coming off a stretch where they’d earned 19 of 20 possible points, Montreal was maybe a little too relaxed. Plus they don’t know the Kings very well — and LA was clearly the better-prepared team, with time obviously spent watching Habs video. LA also adjusted their PK strategy after Mtl’s first PP — great coaching on the fly. LA worked harder, and is admittedly a better team, but no NHL team wins 6-0 without a little luck as well.

    All this to say, it’s a statistical aberration — let’s move on. I will make one Boone-style fearless prediction though: if by some twist of fate these two teams meet in the Finals, the games will bear no resemblance to the stinker we saw last night.

    Devils coach Jacques Lemaire on the Daneyko-Kaminski feud – “Daneyko got mad when Kaminski said he was going to knock his teeth out. Dano has only two teeth left, so you can’t say that to Dano.”

  23. Mavid says:

    just got a notification that Max and Gorges were absent during l’entrainement..

    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  24. frontenac1 says:

    Hola Amigos! After the third goal , I started some serious power drinking. By the end of the second period ,I couldnt see the
    screen. Put on some Sinatra and passed out. Just came to. All I can say is ,HO-Ho F#cking Ho! And check the Halls for Saul and Molly. Saludos!

  25. ooder says:

    so i had a dream that bergevin traded subban… hope it’s not one of those dreams that end up coming true

  26. Will Longlade says:

    Although it’s just a single game, I think the result demonstrates that the Habs, as presently molded, are not a team built for playoff success. They may enjoy success during the regular season, but less so when the games tighten up and the refs put away their whistles (as they did on occasion last night). You gotta think that what happened last night will undoubtedly strengthen MB’s resolve to make some changes which may go beyond minor tweaking. JMHO.

  27. The Jackal says:

    AS some have already said, this is not a call for moar bigger.
    Habs had a bad game.
    We’ve beaten big teams before and we’re coming off a ridiculous streak. Every team gets blown out at least once, it doesn’t mean anything.
    We’re still the team that had not lost in regulation in 10 or so games.
    It’s absurd to start questioning the coach and the roster after this one loss – a few days ago people were planning the parade.
    The Habs are not quite a contender but they will make the playoffs and they can surprise teams therein.

    It’s common knowledge that we are a couple of pieces away from being a powerhouse so why is the team in need of a dismantling after every loss?
    It’s funny how there are calls to change how we draft and our prospect pool because all of a sudden a bigger team beat us, it just makes no sense. Andrighetto, Reway, etc. – who says they WILL make the team, or that both will be on the team? So what if they are smaller players? They are highly skilled and would help the team if they actually develop as projected or better. Same with McCarron, he and Crisp will help a lot should they make it. But prospects are prospects and our pool does not reflect what the makeup of the team will be when and if they graduate.

    We’ve got the right pieces but we are a few short, that’s all. Having some small players doesn’t hurt and in fact some of the bigger teams have added small/speedy guys, like Boston and Chicago, and it’s worked out for them. The small BS is just an easy way to justify a loss.
    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Forum Dog says:

      I agree that its good to have small skilled players in the lineup, but these players are most effective when they are paired with bigger bodies who can work the boards and dig pucks loose.

      That said, size is not the only factor. You need to be aggressive as well, and that was not in evidence from what I saw last night, other than from Galchenyuk, Gallagher and some of the 4th line guys. I did not see Pacioretty play with much fire, and I thought Eller lacked the confidence he normally has. A bit better when Galchenyuk joined him for a few shifts, but playing with less aggressive players (i.e. Briere) seems to hurt him.

  28. Sportfan says:

    I’m not worried about this team, the game last night sucked, but its not time to panic I expect a bounce back tomorrow.

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

  29. JM says:

    Say what you want if we are gonna improve our team up front here’s where we have to start.

    Briere gone, Bourque Gone and last but not least Desharnais gone for better players not new faces.

    Mb maybe looking at making the playoffs and call it a good season and he should get that. The Habs are not that bad but if he wants to get out of the 1st round unless we meet a weaker and softer opponent 1st round will be our max.

    Half of the Habs forwards are what I call wonders. You wonder how they are going to perform every game … Last night they were all wonders. you wondered why they showed up or should I say didn’t show up.

    • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

      Well said. And I totally agree.

      I remember Dec. 31, 1975

    • Kooch7800 says:

      The East is weaker than the west for sure. The cup will be going west again this year with no doubt in my mind.

      The habs as good as they have played lately have been mainly playing East teams and our record would be much different in the west.

      We have a good core but we need some help up front big time. Are the habs as bad as the score showed last night…..no, but we are also not a team that could beat LA, San Jose, St Louis, Chicago in a 7 game series
      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • I dunno — all an Eastern team needs to do to win the Cup is win 4 of 7. At the NHL level, unless a team is truly abysmal (I’m looking at you, Buffalo), its odds of winning any given game are fairly close to 50-50, regardless of the standings. Things like coaching, over-performing call-ups and injuries can easily be the deciding factor.

        Devils coach Jacques Lemaire on the Daneyko-Kaminski feud – “Daneyko got mad when Kaminski said he was going to knock his teeth out. Dano has only two teeth left, so you can’t say that to Dano.”

        • Kooch7800 says:

          It is ok to disagree. In a 7 game series against LA, San Jose, St Louis, Chicago who in the East do you think could win? The Pens don’t have the defense or goaltending, The bruins are probably the best suited but Chara is not as fast as he used to be and they don’t have enough offense as it showed against Chicago last year.

          Detroit can be pesky but I can see them going maybe two rounds and that is it.

          I don’t think the Habs offense will hold up when the clutch and grab kicks in without penalties. if things go well the Habs could get a couple rounds but I really can’t see us beating any of the top teams in the West. We could not beat the Sens last year and they are not that great.

          Don’t get me wrong this isn’t doom and gloom but the habs need to add pieces and the East def seems weaker this year. All the big teams have some big flaws

          The East to me is pretty wide open for the standings.

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  30. Maritime Ronn says:

    Found this funny (sad?) post on another web site.
    Rather amazing that the state of California has 3 teams better than any of the 7 teams in Canada.
    Two California teams 25 miles apart won 2 Stanley Cup in the least 6 years and the last time Canada won a Stanley Cup was 20 years ago.
    What’s even funnier is Canadian teams give money to American teams to win.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I know what you’re saying but when you look closer, the teams are composed of many Canadians, both on the ice, and maybe more importantly, in management positions. There’s a lot more places for Canadians to find jobs outside of Canada in hockey.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Ronn! Actually it is the Canadian Fan that is purchasing cups for the league. Except for a few clubs State side.

    • Sal from the Hammer says:

      Many of the best teams that dominate the standings in the present NHL, with the exception of maybe San Jose, and Detroit, all had many horrible years, and in most cases drafted first or close to it for those lean years. Teams like the Habs, and lets face it, the Laffs, where it is perceived the fans can’t wait for a winning team, that finish at or near the playoff dividing lines wind up picking in the middle to end of the first round of the draft picks, depending on whether they traded away picks for momentary gains. Chicago, St. Louis, LA, Pittsburgh, Colorado, Washington, even Anaheim, all benefited from having several consecutive lousy years. Maybe that helps account for why the west is at present, where the stronger teams reside.

      The obvious exception, Detroit, that up until this year at least, has had many good years for reasons we all are aware of by now. They had players that allow them to develop their farm teams and be patient with their draft picks, which is a well understood method of advancing a teams long term success.

      So tanking actually works, not in every case, Oilers for now, but, is a tried and true method to make a team good for a long time. Obviously management is a huge factor and the BG, Gautier eras are proof of that the wrong GMs are extremely problematic. Even getting Galchenyuk provided a boost to the team’s fortunes, and Gallager a fifth rounder, is a gem!

      But nothing is a more sure way to success than losing for a few years. Especially where hockey is concerned. Certain players, Crosby/Malkin come to mind, make teams instantly credible. The Habs chose thertight path, after the lock out in 2003, by drafting speed and skill, but, they had the rug pulled out from under them when Gary and his minions decided the Gooiuns were the prototype for the new and goonier NHL. Now the Habs have had to play catch up to compensate for their small size.

      I still like their current make up, despite what I have argued till now, and, I like that they have a gaggle of draft picks developing in Hamilton, and elsewhere. This is a team on the cusp of better things, if they sign PK, keep Markov for a few more seasons, and let Gallager, and Chucky take the reigns of leadership that they display with their grit and talent.

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