A pre-break L

The Philthy Flyers win the last three games of the season series.

Pat Hickey’s game story

Quotes from the room

Quick Hits and About last night …

Hickey and Arpon Basu on Kirk Muller’s imminent departure

Sean Gordon on Mathieu Darche

Cam Cole on Wayne Gretzky

241 Comments

  1. HabFanSince72 says:

    I wonder if there are any differences between the NHL and the mafia.

    Less bling in the NHL, a bit more honour in the mob? Otherwise they’re the same.

     

  2. Storm Man says:

    I would like Regehr and Moulson out of the player you’re talking about.

     

    ” Not everyone can afford a brilliant stock advisor like storm. TripleX 01/25/2011.20:16

  3. Caballero says:

    We need players with size and grit on our 3-4th lines. Travis Moen doesn’t have it. Lapierre didn’t have it. Part of having a well rounded hockey team is having a few mean sobs, Mr. Gauthier make it happen!!!!!! After being eliminated by the Flyers last year you would think priority numero uno would be to find at least one enforcer, and I don’t mean Green George Laraque

  4. SeriousFan09 says:

    1-2 year deal, at about 5 million per, he has missed a lot more than he’s played in the last two years so the onus is a bit on him to show he’s still got it and his problem knee isn’t going to throw him off.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  5. Storm Man says:

    How much and how long do you want the Habs to sign Markov for? I would like 2 years 12 mil and see how he does.

     

    ” Not everyone can afford a brilliant stock advisor like storm. TripleX 01/25/2011.20:16

  6. CanadienBoy says:

    Like to have a Regehr or less exp. Vendermeer for D help ,forward Penner less exp. Moulson and more upside and for grit Niel and or Ruutu .those players are say to be available just at what cost ? 

  7. PrimeTime says:

    Oh well, we have lots to look forward to and hopefully all our good young players relacing all our injured regulars gained some experience last night. We have a good core of youngs players with skill and even size. They will develop and we have our year few good years just like the Flyers are enjoying now. At some point they will need to bust their group up just as Hawks needed to last year to remian under the cap. They will need to make a difficult choice between Giroux and another player and maybe others. I still think their goaltending is too weak to win it all but Hawks and Wings won it without a star in goal, so who knows. A few years ago the Flyers were not contenders…..all teams can’t be every year. Our time will come if PG continues to build the proper way. I think he is and I will continue to follow and watch this team get better and wish for the best.

    Go Habs Go!

  8. SeriousFan09 says:

    Got to love some of the upstanding citizens Gary found to buy into NHL teams, a tale of Len Barrie, formerly of TBL ownership.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/current-former-nhl-players-lose-more-than-13-million-in-resort-deal/article1883049/

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  9. Mattyleg says:

    Here’s a mini-response for people waving the ‘Down-With-JM-Up-With-Muller’ flag:

    Do you remember when Carbo was assistant coach? I thought the same thing as many people here: He’s so dynamic! He’s always chatting with the players, motivating them, banging them on the back, taking charge of the timeouts, etc.

    That’s what assistants do. They can take the time to speak to the players one-on-one while the coach is watching the run of the game. The coach is like the Captain of the ship, while the assistants are the First Lieutenants, getting the best out of the men, keeping them focused and in line. If the coach was doing that, he wouldn’t be paying attention to what was happening on the ice.

    We all remember what happened when Carbo took the reins: he wasn’t a good communicator. We’ve heard that many times. I couldn’t believe it at first, considering how good he’d looked as assistant, but then I realized that it’s a different job. Carbo became as passive-looking as every other coach.

    Don’t be fooled by the talk and the bluster behind the bench. Once Muller becomes a coach, he’ll look much like all the others.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  10. Hobie Hansen says:

    Ottawa is a brutal team. Throw Neil on a decent 3rd line on a good team and he would make a good impact. Many people around hockey were saying that the third line in Ottawa consisting of Neil, kelly and Ruttu was one of the best in the league at shutting down and agrivating some of the league’s top lines, before injuies and all hell broke lose in ottawa…

  11. W35T5ID3 says:

    Dude bobonmynobsky is a rookie.He is not the answer to their cup aspirations.They need an upgrade.They know it too.But such has been the case for the cryers now for years and years and years…….Wheres Leighton these  days????oh ya..minors…..

     

    i go bed now

  12. BJ says:

    After watching last nights game it establishes fairly clearly where we are as a team. Still struggling to establish ourselves as a top 10. No way we can beat the Flyers in a playoff series. We could steal 1 at best. They are truly an elite NHL team right now, strong at each position (including goaltending). I don’t really know if Martin is getting the best out of everyone? If so we are a number of players away from competing for our elusive 25th. I feel good about our young core of players. At the start of the season I was concerned about size and toughness and that still stands. So where do we go from here? Good question this morning. 

  13. HabFanSince72 says:

    Arpon Basu’s article is excellent as usual.

    It’s interesting this idea most people here have that everything bad about the team is Martin’s fault and everything good is thanks to Muller.

     

     

  14. Mattyleg says:

    Okay, that sucked. Getting beat like that sucked the bag.

    God, that sucked.

    Now, I’m not one to get angry and wave flags and demand people’s resignation, and make promises (à la “trust me, next year he’s outta here”), but there’s one thing that’s been nagging at me. Bugging me. Poking at my CH confidence.

    Lars Eller blows.

    He’s not playing NHL-quality hockey at the moment. I’m sure it all has to do with his confidence, but he’s not winning battles on the boards, he’s making tentative passes, he’s hanging on to the puck when he should be shooting quickly…

    I’m not saying the kid’s a dud. Not by a long shot. But I wish we weren’t in such a tight spot with players, because I’d love to see him go back down to the minors for some conditioning. Get some goals, feel like a big-time Charlie again.

    C’mon kiddo, you alone hold the hopes of aaaaaaall of Denmark in your gangly hands.

    Make Hamlet proud.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  15. shiram says:

    How much cap do you save by sending a guy, making about 600k, for a week? I guess every little bit can help though.

    Still I’d rather have Cammy back with Plekanec.

  16. avatar_58 says:

    So hey – the Tim Hortons I go to has this sweet heritage classic framed poster up. After feb 20th chances are they take it down yes? What do they do with it? I want it :(

  17. TheDagger says:

    I wonder if he will be on that donkey Mike Richards’ team.

  18. Mark C says:

    What Halak problem that backed them into a corner? Giving Martin a longer contract doesn’t mean the Habs can’t let him go, it’s not like NHL coaches never get fired before their contract run outs. It seems to happen 3-5 times a season.  

  19. Storm Man says:

    On here?? No way when does this happen?.

     

    ” Not everyone can afford a brilliant stock advisor like storm”. TripleX 01/25/2011.20:16

  20. Propwash says:

    The Habs have gone through alot of coaches through the past few years, it doesn’t look good on a team to hire/fire coaches left right and center.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  21. avatar_58 says:

    But remember – he doesn’t like Balsille because he’s aggressive and honest. He’d rather give teams to people who don’t actually have the money, have been in prison at one point, and generally have no idea what they are doing. Oh but hey – they talk nicely to him and the other owners! That counts right?

  22. shiram says:

    He is probably only there for the rookie part.

  23. JIMVINNY says:

    He’s going as a rookie, so he won’t be participating in the main game, only the skills competition.

  24. Mark says:

    Amen! Like I said in About Last Night, “the Flyers are playing like the big wheels in the NHL right now, and like my dad says, “you know what dogs do to big wheels, right?”

    The whining and moaning on this site is really irritating sometimes!

  25. TheDagger says:

    I see now he is only there for the rookie part, but more importantly, that skid Richards wasn’t selected. Respect

  26. Timo says:

    Hey, I bet you another round of golf that if he were on the Habs he’d score more than Gomez.

  27. Timo says:

    I say Neil would have a few decent fights and would knock some teeth out in case somebody desides to cheapshot one of our midgets (right, we don’t have scorers). I mean, yeah, it sucks that we have midgets that can’t protect themselves, but since these are the cards we’re dealt, Neil could improve the team at least in this regard. Also, as far as I remember, he is more than capable of putting the puck in the net. If given same amount of time on top line as Moen, I am sure his production would be double or triple that of Moen’s.

  28. Timo says:

    I would say we need 6 top 6 forwards… the ones we’ve got are just not good enough.

  29. Hobie Hansen says:

    A classic example of what I’m talking about are the 94 stanley cup winning Rangers. As you know, their team was loaded with firepower but were knocked out of the playoffs the previous couple years due to a lack of heart and grit.

    They went out and picked up Noonan, Matteau and Mactavish at the deadline to play on their 3rd and 4th lines. Those guys were not know for scoring but scorred some clutch goals in the playoffs and fired up the team with big hits and physcial play. That’s exactly waht  montreal needs. NOBODY WANTS A TOTAL GOON!!!!!!

  30. Hobie Hansen says:

    Ok people…Listen up! Nor trying to be a jerk here but this is how it goes. Montreal has a very one-dimensional team. If we don’t score on the PP, we don’t win.

    If teams like the Flyers or Bruins decide to take the body to us we quite often crumple up and lose the game. We need another big body that can put the puck in the net on the top lines and a couple agitators on the 3rd and 4th lines…end of story. We’re not going to have offensive players on all four lines.

    Not every game is a speed and skill game and we need to adapt our style from time to time. Plus it would be nice to have a couple of guys on our team to piss off the better players on the opposing team. The best way to win a game is to put the puck in the net, nobody is disputing that, but it also a good idea to prevent the other team from putting the puck in our net. That can be accomplished by knocking other players on their rear ends or taking them off their games… thank you.

     

  31. Propwash says:

    If Muller goes, all the naysayers are going to blame the Habs management for letting him go, even if it was from his own free will. Gotta have excuses to blame the management.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  32. punkster says:

    Definitely. Gotta love the over-dramatization of the situation whenever we lose. It’s like a drug for some. All the extremes show up, yours included ;)

    These pretzels…are making me thirsty!

    ***Subbang!!!***

  33. HabFanSince72 says:

    Enforcers don’t play in the playoffs, unless they’re also decent hockey players.

     

  34. Gormdog says:

    4th line players arent going to make the difference though.

     

    Lots of room for improvement, but these elusive, gritty 4th line guys are generally not particularly great hockey players. Good hockey players, with, size, grit, and ability to skate (Habs prerequesite) are normally way up on a teams depth charts. The only guys you trade for in that category are has beens like Neil who people stuck in 2005 think would be an awesome pickup.

    I dont think any 4th line presence will make any difference to this team. The days of the goon are over, the Habs THRIVE (er, give or take) on the PP it’s the exact game they play: patience and non idiotic goonery (gomez notwithstanding… what was he trying to get all of our munchins eaten alive By Carcillo?!?).

     

    The big, strong forward is legit. Has been for years. But they don’t come here as FA’s and any trade for a big strong, signed, scoring winger, will cost us an arm and a leg. Not little bits and peices, players no one would give any return for a la weber, A kost, tom pyatt (yes, ive seen his name thrown around as having value). To solve the scoring problem, or, at least, put a player in a position to have us THINK he could do it, would require picks,  actual players with actual untapped potential (leblanc kristo tinordi Subban etc). To me, not worth it.

     

    If every team was able to fix all their problems… We would have 30 cup winners every year. Each team has their own strenghts, habs have Defence, coaching, Goaltending, and two legitimate “young stars”. Can’t have it all!

  35. Mark C says:

    It would save around $20K on the daily cap, I think this has more to do with allowing White to play in the Bulldogs’ two games in the meantime. Why have him sit around in a hotel room for 5 days when he could be playing in the A.

  36. jimmy shaker says:

    First step for PG…..

    Chris Neil for a 3rd rounder and tom pyatt

    2nd step for PG….

    Robyn regehr for a 2nd rounder or a third rounder and any of our D not named Gill, subban, gorges, marky.

    That should help a little bit!

    Shaker

  37. Mark C says:

    By the sounds of it it will be awhile before Cammalleri is back, a lot can change by then, so who knows what the lines will look like.

  38. Hobie Hansen says:

    You are 100% correct!


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