A listless loss

Canadiens played like they just weren’t into it.

We know why.

Pat Hickey’s game story

Quotes from the room

• Quick Hits and About last night …

Dave Stubbs on the Max-Pac ripples

Pat Hickey on Geoff Molson

Stephen Brunt on bumbling Bettman

Down Goes Brown’s suspension chart

Even gossip sites are on it

Last word (for now) to the great Charles P. Pierce of the Boston Globe: 

There is one good thing to come out of the NHL’s abdication of its duty to protect people like Max Pacioretty yesterday. That is – the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office. That Zdeno Chara got a complete pass on what he did obviates that talking point forever.


  1. alestar says:

    I actually agree with Tony on this one…


    XXIV…and counting

  2. observer says:

     bettman’s defenders always said in defending him for his many, many , many, crooked and stupid moves that his only responsibility is his owners. AND JEREMY JACOBS is his biggest supporter, the chair of the competition committeee and chara is jacobs best defenseman in a year that bruins are a contender. bettman was very responsible – TO JACOBS HIS COHORT!

  3. J.T. says:

    Or the lovely yellow hue of his spine.



  4. SeriousFan09 says:

    Simmons is just trying to ‘stir the pot’ so people will read his garbage column.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  5. NightRyder says:

    I think his integrity can indeed be questioned based on the leaked e-mails.

  6. TommyB says:

    Campbell has held that position for 13 years, and this is just one incident on a very long list of incidents that places a black mark on his career.  What makes you think he will resign?

  7. Fansincebirth says:

    Not according to the B fan I work with. The refs are picking on Chara and the B’s now….

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  8. Graves says:

    Man, anybody see that hit on Carcillo last night? Well, personally I don’t think Komisarek should be suspended. I mean, really, it was the boards that hurt Carcillo, not the hit. If ol’ Komi had hit him like that at centre ice, no one would even remember the play this morning. It’s unfortunate that Carcillo had to leave, but in the end it’s just part of the game. Besides, it’s not like he, oh, I don’t know, broke his neck or anything. And really, Komisarek’s a good guy, so I’m sure he didn’t mean to do it. Yeah, the league should just let this one go, I think.


    As to the Habs game last night, I had a hard time watching, sort of drifted in and out. Pretty listless, but mostly what I expected. I wouldn’t have felt like playing last night either.

  9. Habfan19 says:

    Things I think I think….

    Chara saying he did not know who was on the ice before the hit….he is either an idiot or a liar….a ‘pro’ does

    not take notice who’s on the ice??? You kidding me???? so which is it??

    and if it was Sid hit like that, still no suspension???

    Sorry if I’m kicking adead horse….

    Get well Max!!!

    Ya gotta want it…

  10. secretdragonfly says:

    I’m not superstitious (much) but does anyone else find it odd that our winning streak coincided with the acquisition of Sopel, who wasn’t in the lineup last night?

  11. Mr. Habs says:

    Last night’s loss had nothing to do with Max (God bless your heart  kid, get well soon). They were due for a loss against a non playoff team.

  12. savethepuck says:

    He is needed for a good balance of puck moving and shut down D and he gives us 2 solid D pairings on the penalty kill.  With the way our hockey team plays, his role is every bit as important as our top goal scorers.

  13. 123456 says:

    nice cheapshot by chara last night in the sabres game – nailed a guy from behind.

  14. Ton says:



    interesting read.  bettman’s new 5 year contract and relationship with the Jacobs family who own the bruins.  Thornton leading us to something here………………….

  15. N.B.habs fan says:

    Not a good preformance last night,I know they are thinking about Max.If it were me I would have said lets win this one for for Max.

    Bad enough Max has to think about getting well and about the team losing too.

    The media are not going to leave the players alone about this for a long time,so prepare for the worst.

    I hope Max goes to the team and tells them to get their heads out of their ass…

  16. Julie H says:


    Go support the site everyone!

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  17. Mr. Habs says:

    Hickey please, Halak at his playoff best, he haunted the Habs? The Habs never posed much of a threat to score last night. Not one good high shot on Halak. 90% of the goals scored on him last spring was high blocker/glove & the Flyers soon discovered that!

  18. Captain aHab says:

    Posted this yesterday:


    Well boys and girls, here’s your chance to let NHL sponsors know how you feel and ask them to follow Air Canada’s lead. I don’t have emails for all of them and some of the emails I have are likely not to the best person but it’s the best I could do.


    You’ll have to put your address on the address line, and pick a zip code like 90210 or whatever as it only takes US addresses. HIO member L.A. Loyalist suggests using his zip code 90036 – about a mile from 90210 🙂



  19. Mr. Habs says:

    You think eh since the Habs played a non playoff team that played the night before playing a career back up goalie!

  20. savethepuck says:

    After playing that many great games in a row and then adding in the trajedy from Tuesday night, and the piss poor way the leaugue handled it, the boys are forgiven for a below par effort last night. Any hockey fans should realize that they would definitely have a hard time focussing on their jobs. I know my head was not totally into it for the first time this year. I guess the good thing is that it did not happen against an Eastern opponent.  We have 4 Eastern playoff teams in our next 4 games,  With the positive news coming in about Patches, it was a lot earlier hospital release than anyone expected, the boys will get back on track and keep fighting for home ice advantage.

  21. habsfan_61 says:

    on otr “chara was skating backwards”. i want that drug youre using dude. the only thing thats backwards is your thinking.

    understandable listlessness from the habs last nite. absolutely no emotion at all.some of the views about the hit i have seen/heard are ridonkulous.some of the best ones are unaware of where or who was on the ice, the aformentioned backwards and the always classic hockey play gone bad.those things just make you throw your hands in the air and just say f-it there isnt a thing that can be done about it.the sad part is nothing will be done, status quo will remain and then a major tragedy will have to occur that even the see no evil at head office would have to wake up and take notice. very furstrating indeed.

    i would like to see max at the next home if possible brought out to center ice to show everyone he’s alright and and give aboost to the craowd and team.

  22. Fansincebirth says:

    The reaction from some fans on both side of this story is ridiculous but it has been brought on by the league’s refusal to do the right thing. ANyone who looks at the video of ‘the hit’, as it is now dubbed, and doesn’t clearly see the extra shove that Chara gives Max just before the stanchion is either blinded by stupidity or have bought in to the theory that Chara would never hurt anyone on purpose.

    The Montreal fans didn’t ask for the courts or QPP to get involved, nor did they ask Air Canada or MP’s or the PM to get involved but they did. We aren’t to blame but we are taking the heat for it being called a bunch of f**king whiners, pussies and worse.

    IF and it’s a very big if, the league had done what was right, it would have suspended Chara for a number of games that would have satisfied all, or quite a few. Not for life, as many are suggestiong and certainly not zero. Nobody knows what he intended, only he knows for sure.

    When Max took off after the puck, Chara was facing him, looking at him so he certainly saw who was going after the puck. He made initial contact with Max before the boards and Chara took the extra effort to push/shove/guide Max into the stanchion. I’ve watched the video time and time again, trying to be objective but wach and every time I see it, I see the same thing. Chara knew who he was hitting, knew where he and Max were on the ice and he certainly knew what he was doing when he gave that extra effort to make sure Max hit where he did.

    Did he mean for the result? I’ll say no but I’m certain he meant to lay a hurt on him. It’s BS that people keep saying he’s such a nice guy, has never done anything like this and wouldn’t do something so horrific. Well, have a look at what he has done in the past and you’ll find a different story.

    The league blew this one horribly, end of story.

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  23. HardHabits says:

    I’d still like to bring up Conboy, Bonneau, Enqvist and Henry for the next Bruins game and sit Gomez, Gionta, Subban and DD and play Alex Auld.

    Give the Bruins a night to remember.

    The bottom line and the Molsons and Pierre Gauthier better wake up to the fact that a smallish team will get chewed up and spit out by teams like Boston and Philadelphia time and again and no rule change will ever alter that fact.

    Yes have one or two small and skilled players, but not a team of them.

    I am sick and tired of seeing the Habs getting mauled out there. Regardless of whether or not the league has proven that it will not initiate changes in the rules to address the growing spate of concussions and intent to injure plays that have become more and more abundant, teams that show the type of weakness and frailty that the Habs are now known for will get slaughtered like lambs to wolves.

    Losing a few battles is OK but we need to win this war. And it is a war of attrition.

  24. HabFanSince72 says:

    But he’s not that kind of guy!

  25. 123456 says:

    we all want the habs to win the cup every year right? while i do not believe the habs have the team that can do it this year i will be rooting hard. how great would it be to see buttman handing over the cup and receiveing a thunderous amout of “boo’s” from the habs fans. he is a tool.

  26. 123456 says:

    exactly – i only saw the highlights as i had my own game. but he crosschecked a guy from behind…. assuming he got a penalty bc it was blatent.

    nice to see some vancouver players speaking out about the league’s poor decision

  27. TommyB says:

    Good articles from Stubbs and Hickey.  But don’t count me as one who believes this incident will have any impact on the direction the league is going regarding head shots or violent actions.  I commend Geoff Molson for his statement, but again, I have to smirk when I think of the other 29 GMs really giving a damn at that next meeting.

    In hockey, and certainly in the NHL, everyone involved looks after his own interests.  This will be looked at as a Montreal thing, not our problem.  A discussion will take place at that meeting, but maybe 25 of those 29 other GMs will be snoozing through it.  It’s part of the culture of hockey.  Cover up your responsibility, and point to someone else.

    Claude Julien’s take on the hit would be completely different had it been his player instead of Pacioretty, don’t you think?   Julien has been around plenty long enough to know right from wrong, but hockey culture dictates that a coach stands up for his player and passes blame onto the opposition.  Any of you guys out there who have coached know this is a fact.  If you can’t admit it, you are not being honest with yourself.  At the very least, you downplay your role, and the role of your own player in the incident.  And it doesn’t matter what level of hockey you are involved with.

    The player involved, Chara in this case, is not going to admit any wrong-doing.  He was only doing his job.  He was just finishing a check or rubbing the guy out.  This bold-faced statement, in spite of the video and photos that obviously expose that lie.  But that again is part of hockey culture.  Not my fault, the victim must have done something wrong, or put himself in a dangerous spot.  I’m not a dirty player.  I didn’t intend to injure the guy. (read those words with a Richard Nixon voice-over to get the full effect).

    You can take it to the GMs, they follow the same pattern.  You can take it to the owners.  They follow the same pattern.  You can even take it to the hockey media, and find the same thing.  I watched a report on last night’s news on CTV in Toronto.  They gave the obligatory news of what happened, and the reactions from the Montreal police, Air Canada’s statement, etc.  Then they go to the “room”.  Video clips of the question being put to “players”.  But it was Toronto, and the players were Leafs and Flyers preparing for their game.  Not one of them answered in support of Montreal or Pacioretty.  They towed the company line.  That’s what we are to believe, that not one of them said anything different.  Well, that’s the clips CTV decided to go with, isn’t it?  It is, after all, Toronto.  Home of Hockey Night In Canada and Don Cherry, and everyone is frothing at the mouth waiting to hear his take on this incident.

    Those are just a few small examples of hockey culture.  What goes on in the room stays in the room.  And for the most part, that is the way it should be.  But when something like this happens, you would hope someone would have the balls to step out of that box and be honest.  Hockey culture is very slow to change.  For this reason, I don’t expect much from those meetings coming up next week between the GMs, even with Bettman being in attendance.  They’ll just fluff it off as usual.  Maybe appoint a committee.  That should take care of it.  Now on to important things, like keeping dying franchises in their empty-seat arenas.

  28. NightRyder says:

    Brunt’s piece on Bettman is excellent.

    I didn’t know the smug little willnot got a five-year contract extension.

    “Petulance in the face of criticism and pressure: that’s the measure of the man.”


  29. TommyB says:

    I couldn’t agree more.  I’ve always been against the cap for the reasons you stated.  Remove the cap.  Let hockey markets dictate how much an owner is going to spend on his team, and what kind of team he will put on the ice.  If a GM is spending his money wisely, his team will have a degree of success.  That degree of success will determine the level of filled vs. empty seats.  Teams will disappear, no doubt about that.  But teams that are in hockey markets will thrive.  I believe skill would once again become the most important commodity on a player’s resume.

  30. PrimeTime says:

    I wouldn’t read too much into last nights loss other than another weak road game…..we have a string of them this year. However they are going to have to find another way to generate some offense without Max. Somtimes the solution cannot be to ask a player to do what the lost player was doing. Pouliot is not Max; neither is Eller or AK47. Each has their own respective strengths and weaknesses. Maybe Gionta and Gomez need to adjust their game style to best suit their new linemate, whoever it be. It takes time for a new line to find a way what works best. Unfortunately having Max out affects the other lines as well cuz they too are new combinations. Hopefully the boys can find a way to find an effective mix and build upon it for the playoffs.

  31. Psycho29 says:

    They should look at the arena configuration……maybe those boards shouldn’t be there….

  32. Ton says:

    well said. they did fluff it off when they decided after the lock out that the game must be built and speed and skill. when you have knucleheads like burke, neely, bob clark, influencing the board of governors (in turn the owners) that speed and skill is not in abundance (and costly) therefore it is too be replaced with filler (for cap reasons) this has become the so called formula for winning!  there is no committee that will act in good faith its courrupt, the game needs to go back to its grass roots, it will bankrupt inself in this current model. just watch and see.

  33. habsguy says:

    LOL,  not with that line up !!!!

  34. NightRyder says:

    The perception of conflict should be enough to remove Colin Campbell from his post. Even if he recuses himself from things involving the Bruins, what if, say, the Capitals or Lightning have three games in short order coming up against the Bruins and they are jockeying for home-ice advantage in the playoffs?

    If a Capital or Bolt (say, Kubina) might miss a couple of those games, the B’s would theoretically have a better chance to win. Campbell’s baby boy (and we know he sends e-mails to the refs intimidating them about calling things against Greggie) benefits.

    It’s an absurd situation but the smug little willnot simply brushes it aside as the league crumbles around him.

  35. HardHabits says:

    The Habs would win the game.

  36. habsguy says:

    I’d sooner win the game..

  37. habs001 says:

    the habs usually dont play that well on the road…this game was no worse than the ones they won in atlanta and florida..it all depends on small mistakes and scoring on chances…if they would have made it 2-1 they would probably have won…

  38. RGM says:

    You will recall that Sidney Crosby was hit twice with blindside hits to the head, which are responsible for his current post-concussion syndroms symptoms, and the NHL failed to take action.

    Go Habs Go!

  39. TheDagger says:

    Come on, Montador needs to take responsibility, he shouldn’t have been where he was. Plus, pretty sure he dove head first into the boards, which are too hard mind you. And if the ice wasn’t so slippery he wouldn’t have slid into the boards like that, it’s mostly the ice being too slippery.

  40. RGM says:

    Two former Hart Trophy Winners have called malarkey on Bettman/Murphy/Campbell and their abdication of their responsibility. I wonder how many more will join the chorus?

    Go Habs Go!

  41. habsguy says:

    I know….I was watching off the record lastnight,  one of the panel,  I think it was steve simmons kept repeating the chara was moving backwards and couldnt see where the turnbuckle was, I wonder if he even saw the hit !!!!!!!!……And friggin Andrew Crystal on (the fan) yesterday made me want to puke!!!

  42. habsguy says:

    what if the bruins make it to the cup finals,  does that mean the Senior Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations for the National Hockey League,  who also serves as the NHL’s principal disciplinarian isnt involved in NHL’s showcase game……what a friggin joke !!!!!

  43. DearyLeary says:

    Mario and ?

  44. TommyB says:

    Yep.  Saw that too.  Steve Simmons repeatedly defending Chara, saying he was skating backwards…meanwhile the film clip is played, and nobody says “wtf are you talking about, skating backwards?”.  Look at that panel.  The only truly impartial guy is Landsbergh.  The rest….two Toronto sports writers, a former Leaf player, and a Philly sports writer.  How are you going to get truth and impartiality?

  45. Habfan19 says:

    Both of those hits were pretty innocent….delivered by some pretty big boys tho….Steckels looked

    accidental to me…


    Ya gotta want it…

  46. PrimeTime says:

    I believe Campbell will resign before next season. That is one good thing that will come out of all this. As you say, the conflict reaches beyond just Bruins games. Although I believe he has enough integrity not to rule on incidents that would benefit the Bruins there is that potential perception and that should be all that matters. With Campbell gone and with growing concern of player safety this year, it opens the door for the NHL to bring in a new approach to rulings on offending players while saving face of past decisions.

  47. Fansincebirth says:

    The 24th game is going to be a repeat of the thuggery we saw last time there.

    Boston has more to pay back now, in their and their fan’s minds.

    Luchump, Horton, Thorton, McQuaid and Chara will be allowed to run loose…..

    The place will turn into a bloodbath if one of their players go down from a hit.

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  48. habsguy says:

    Andrew Crystal was worse,  the man is a classless idiot!!!!!..anyone who didnt agree with him was cut off quickly!!

  49. HabFanSince72 says:

    Thornton and Sedin.

  50. TommyB says:

    What if the Bruins win the Cup….does Colin Campbell get a ring?

  51. TommyB says:

    I disagree.  I’ve sat behind the cameras on that set.  I was there with a good friend of mine who is a frequent panelist.  I got a good look at Landsbergh, who he is, how he runs his show, what he wants from his guests.  The man is a professional is every aspect of the word.  He was the only one last night trying to contradict what his guests were saying. 

  52. NL_habs_fan says:

    Landsbergh is not impartial, he is the host and is paid to promote debate on OTR.  If Stubbs, Boone, Hickey and Guathier were on as guests he would be arguing the NHL was right.

  53. adamkennelly says:

    he is most definately a liar…especially off a face off – these guys know exactly who they are on the ice against…part of their job…he did it, it was on purpose, did he really try to hurt him that bad – prolly not but he was punishing him for past transgressions in a game the Booins were getting punked….at least sack up and admit it instead of acting like a coward and hiding behind the “I didn’t know” defense…

  54. observer says:

    Boycott? NOT here BUT Habs fans do NOT go to the next Boston game IN BOSTON and don’t give  any money to Jeremy Jacobs, Gary Bettman, the Boston scalpers, the Bruins money-grubbing fans selling their own tickets and all the gas, food, airplane tickets that help the Boston economy that is in serious financial shape. Boycott that March 24 game in Boston.

  55. TommyB says:

    Hopefully it doesn’t clash with his studded collar.

  56. J.T. says:

    Yeah, a nose ring.  So it’s easier for Bettman to lead him around.



  57. Fansincebirth says:

    Chara was looking right at Max.

    He’s a friggin Dman standing at the blue line. How can people say he didn’t know who was pn the ice?

    Max was standing 15′ from him when the puck was dropped!!

    The league has become a zoo and the zoo keepers are idiots…

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  58. Hobie Hansen says:

    Well now that another game has passed and most of us have expressed all of our frustrations over the last 48hrs, it’s time to start moving on, I guess…

    From a hockey standpoint, more specifically the Habs’ lineup, man does losing Pacioretty really stink!

    I only had one eye on the game last night but it looked as if the Habs were emotionally exhausted, with obvious good reason.

    Prior to the Pacioretty injury, even with the loss of Markov and Gorges, I felt the Habs were right there with the elite teams in the Eastern Conference. Now without Pacioretty in the lineup they’ve probably fallen back a bit and are around the level of a Buffalo or Carolina.

    We’ve got potential to do some damage in the playoffs but the odds of advancing to the finals have greatly decreased. Seeing Gionta-Gomez-Pouliot reunited last night left me with a very unsatisfied feeling. I actually think Pouliot works well on the bottom six but for whatever reason doesn’t excel with top line minutes…

    The Habs will give it the old try going down the stretch and into the playoffs but the fact they’re missing some pretty valuable weapons will most likely be on their minds and show on the score sheet.

    Chara is a bum!!!

  59. TommyB says:

    All they have to do is put a camera on him standing in the hallway, flash it on the jumboscreen, and the place will explode.  I feel sorry for any opposing team in those first 5 minutes of that game. 

  60. TommyB says:

    Black leather collar…..yellow spine.    Anyone getting suspicious? 

  61. bozzo says:

    Avantage Montréal!

    Carey Price (career) 10-2-2

  62. Julie H says:

    Love the dripping with sarcasm comment. May well blame everything in the rink while you have a chance.

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  63. Rudy says:

    Me too, and it feels strange

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  64. joeybarrie says:

    According to ticketmaster there are 14 available seats for the Game on March 24th.

    I am afraid a BOYCOTT by Montreal will not do a tiny little miniscule thing to get any type of notice to this subject.

    Now if the Habs fans going to the game somehow all brought the same sign, or something like that, then they could make a statement. But to boycott a Bruins game in Boston. Nothing will be noticed.

    Tickets have been bought, airline tix too. Hotels most likely already reserved. They will feel no financial loss. The only way to make a statement is for alot of people to get on the same page and make it together. Not simply not show up. Not to an away game.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  65. Chuck says:

    Great article, Dave. Anf I wonder how much the league will fine Thorton and Sedin (whose words carry more weight mecause he’s never been afilliated with the Bruins)?

  66. TommyB says:

    I can understand the sentimentality of what you are saying, but I didn’t think the Habs were going to make a deep run at the Cup this year anyway.  Losing Pacioretty only puts the final emphasis on that.  So, instead of fretting over a possible early-out in the playoffs, I’ll focus on just what this team can achieve in the face of this latest adversity.  And I don’t think last night’s loss to St.Louis is much of an indicator.  I think it was only natural for the team to come out flat last night.  I think tomorrow vs. Pittsburgh they will begin to bounce back, and the next home game with fans cheering on loudly should put them back on track where they were prior to the start of this week.  What remains to be seen is what Martin can do juggling his lineup to compensate for the loss of Pacioretty, and what players decide to step up to fill the void. 


  67. Fansincebirth says:

    I would love to couple this with the one that was made yesterday by someone.

    Drop the puck then skate off the ice and leave the arena.

    It won’t happen but I’d love to see it.

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  68. Hobie Hansen says:

    I was convinced they didn’t have what it took to make a deep run but suddenly with the emergence of Desharnais, Eller and especially Pacioretty, they really took a big step forward. I’m not saying they were better than any of the teams ahead of us but we were right there with them… now we’ve been knocked back down again.

    If we had Pacioretty, Markov and Gorges in the lineup we’d be as good as anyone! Oh well.   

  69. Storm Man says:

    How can this team win the war?. A young man may never play hockey again or if he does play never be the player he was going to be.

  70. observer says:

    if they already bought them – then sell them and dont GIVE NTHEM ANY MORE MONEY. maybe scalpers already are holding them to sell outside the rink. point is DO NOT BRING ANY CANADIAN MONEY TO THAT CITY IN SERIOUS TROUBLE FINANCIALLY RIGHT NOW!

  71. J.T. says:

    Every Habs fan at that game should hold up a sign with a picture of Pacioretty on it, and remain standing for the entire game.  Preferably dressed in black.  That would make for some interesting optics.



  72. NL_habs_fan says:

    I’m not saying Landsberg isn’t professional, I guess never explained my self that well.  I watched that show last night too, and you’re right, he was the only one contradicting his guests.  The way I see it OTR is a very boring show if everyone agrees, that means Landsberg, while on air, sometimes has to forget his personal stance and instead take the stance that will promote the most talking/debating.  Basically it’s his job to be impartial whether he personally believes what he is saying or not. 

    All I’m trying to say is you can’t really say Landsberg is “truly impartial” unless you hear his opinions “off the record”  and not on OTR. pun intended.

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