A Hockey Night in Canada showdown

Coming off a 3-2 overtime loss in Washington Friday night, only a few Canadiens players were scheduled to skate at 11:30 Saturday morning in Brossard as the team prepares to face the Toronto Maple Leafs on Hockey Night in Canada (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690). The Canadiens announced there would be no media availability on Saturday morning.

The loss in Washington ended a four-game winning streak for the Canadiens.

The Leafs are coming off a 3-2 overtime loss Friday night to the Sabres, the worst team in the NHL, in Buffalo. It was the third straight loss for the Leafs.

This will be the second meeting of the season between the Canadiens and Leafs with Toronto winning the season opener 4-3 at the Bell Centre. The next meeting between the two teams after Saturday night will be on Jan. 18 in Toronto.

(Photo by Dario Ayala/The Gazette)

Canadiens vs. Leafs preview, NHL.com

Capitals edge Habs 3-2 in shootout, by Pat Hickey

Budaj says lucky goals cost Habs, by Pat Hickey

Habs’ postgame comments (video), Canadiens.com

Capitals overcome their bugaboos, Washington Post

It’s not easy being a Leafs fan in Montreal, by Brenda Branswell

Babcock an impressive figure, no matter what happens to Subban, by Stu Cowan

Canadian teams the engine that drives NHL, by Pat Hickey

Former Hab Broden holds record that will never be broken, by Dave Stubbs

Swedish Habs prospects return home, by Pat Hickey

Maple Leafs woes continue, Toronto Star

Lowly Sabres knock off Leafs, Toronto Sun

Cherry makes it hard to rebrand HNIC, montrealgazette.com

Time for Cherry to exit gracefully, Toronto Star

Uncertain future for some hockey TV personalities, Stu on Sports blog

153 Comments

  1. Habitant in Surrey says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUjkPeL0ARs

    If any of You need a laugh: Robin Williams

  2. stephram says:

    Pumped for tonight! Let’s hope I can wear my jersey downtown Toronto with pride! Go Habs!!

  3. Bill says:

    Glad to see Murray playing tonight: hopefully means he wasn’t concussed by that useless goon Scott.

    Correct if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that Tinordi’s first AHL fight this season? He had six PIM in 15 games or so going into last night. Thought he was going for the Lady Byng for a while there.

  4. Bob_Sacamano says:

    Dulljerk: You apparently don´t like facts. If you really can´t grasp Parros´ full uselessness, I feel sorry for you.

    I´m sure Bergevin at this point knows that it was a mistake to acquire Parros and that he only hurts the team when he´s on the ice.

    We have a better team than the Leafs and yet we worry about them? It´s quite sad.

    • piper says:

      Last time I checked the two teams are pretty even.

      • Bob_Sacamano says:

        That´s because the Leafs were very lucky at the beginning of the season while the Habs lost several one goal games in regulation. The Leafs are finally running out of luck and are 3-4-3 in their last ten while the Habs are 6-2-2…

    • Forum Dog says:

      Parros has a role, and if there was any game that he should dress for, this is the one. The Leafs have a lot of guys who will try to take runs at both the goalie and the skill guys. Having Parros and Murray there is a good idea. It is the whole reason they were signed.

      • Bob_Sacamano says:

        Having Parros in the lineup will make the Leafs stop running into Price and our skill guys? I don´t think so…

        The best idea is to dress your most talented players and this would definitely mean no Parros. No Murray too but I´m not too crazy about Bouillon either.

        • Dulljerk says:

          I don’t think Montreal is as good as Toronto in depth. And Bobby you are entitled to your opinion. If MB thought Parros was a mistake, he wouldn’t be in the line up, son. Oh, and luck is a big part of the game you know, lol.

          No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.

        • frontenac1 says:

          There should be some good fights tonight amigo. It should be a great game. Keep the faith!

  5. Et le but says:

    Hey Dulljerk!

    If you disagree with a post on here, please do so with respect.
    Insults and name-calling won’t bolster your point of view IMO.

    Thanks for considering this request!

  6. ClutchNGrab says:

    Robidas is out for at least four months, do they need a puck moving defenceman?

  7. HardHabits says:

    Post of the day goes to Captain Pike.

  8. The Teacher says:

    Anotherhab. We can only hope snow would
    Bite.

  9. anotherhab says:

    The Islanders are sucking again — rumours are MB wants to make a big splash! What would it take to pry Tavares from them?
    Could DD, MaxPac and Diaz make the trade happen?

    “Open mindedness is not a skull fracture”

  10. Lafleurguy says:

    Tinordi’s fight last night.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m-aIw7B004

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • monmick says:

      I am starting to think that the new NHL rule against removing your own helmet before a fight may have some unintended consequences and may actually be MORE dangerous. I’m seeing lot’s of helmets becoming partially detached during fights and then swinging wildly around as combatants tug and swing at each other. Any thoughts?

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

    • Forum Dog says:

      Good tilt. Broll caught him toward the end, but Tinordi did well. Also a good hit by Tinordi which (unfortunately) was the initiating factor. I don’t mind a good, even scrap, but I don’t like when they are the result of a clean hit.

      • Dulljerk says:

        i think Broll almost KO’d him at the end. It certainly caused and eerie pause and then it was over.

        No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.

  11. habs001 says:

    If Parros is not injured he has to play vs Leafs and Bruins….otherwise what is the purpose of having him on the team…The problem is that White and Parros have no goal scoring ability at all and Moen is very limited…Their mobility is limited…This line vs the Bruins 4th line is not a good matchup…and if the other team can sneak on one of their offensive lines Parros minus stats will be rivaling the Cubes ..

    • Dulljerk says:

      Fourth lines are energy lines, or bruiser lines. They shake up the game when it has gone flat. Nilan wouldn’t have developed at all if they had not played him regularly. If MB wants him on the team, he should play or let him go.

      No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.

  12. Bill says:

    Parros didn’t help us beat the Leafs before, and he won’t tonight.

    So much insecurity on this site.

    All Murray fighting Scott got us was an injured defenceman.

    • Jed says:

      I do agree with that, but if it keeps Prust and Gorges from having to fight Leaf goons, I’m all for it.

    • thorandresson says:

      If he’s playing tonight, how is he really injured?

    • Dulljerk says:

      Bill, apparently, you don’t see reality, just ideology. Parros should be a regular 4th line player, that’s what he is there for. It’s not like he’s a stump. He played a regular fourth line shift on a very good Anaheim team.

      No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.

      • Et le but says:

        Albeit a very small sample to evaluate him on, in the 5 games that he has played this year, Parros has been a greater liability than an asset. Based on this reality, I agree with Bill that the risk of having him in the lineup far outweigh any benefit or reward. In what season did George last play a ‘regular’ 4th line shift?

        • Dulljerk says:

          When Moen and him were playing with Anaheim. With your reasoning Chris Nilan wouldn’t never have played. You can’t be part of the team sitting in the press box. This is a small team, they need one tough line, not one tough guy. That line should be the fourth line.

          No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.

    • JF says:

      I think we need one of Parros or Murray, but not both. If Murray is playing, Parros should sit. We have a good fourth line with Bournival, Moen, and White. Switching any one of those players for Parros will make the line worse.

      • Dulljerk says:

        I don’t think Parros is worse than Moen, and Bournival will get about 3 more goals this year playing on that line.

        No eternal reward will forgive us for wasting the dawn.

        • Bob_Sacamano says:

          Parros is not worse than Moen? Are you serious? Moen is a decent fourth liner. He´s +- 0 and kills penalties. Parros is a -5 in 5 games despite only five minutes per game. Playing him in Minnesota did cost us two points. We are 0-5 with him in our lineup. A pure coincidence? No, he´s just a horrible hockey player who shouldn´t
          be in the NHL.

  13. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Murray and Parros in tonight.

  14. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    I agree with moving up Bournival with Eller and Chucky. Drop Prust to the fourth line. If you’re going to put in Parros for fighting purposes then drop White who is the worst fighter. Prust can center Moen and Parros for a game.

  15. SteverenO says:

    reviewing last nights game;

    Team played well and probably deserved the tow points, again they were let down by some questionable coaching decisions:

    Power Play ice time distribution:
    The have enjoyed 4 minutes with the man advantage;

    Desharnais/Gallagher each played 2:24 ==60% of the total
    Plekanec & Gionta each played 54 seconds ==22%of the total
    So far this season with Plekanec on the PP the habs have scored a goal every 5.1 minutes, with Gionta every 5.9 minutes.
    With Desharnias every 9.3 and Gallagher every 8.0 minutes

    Pacioretty played 2:24– season average 1 PPG every 5.6 minutes
    Briere played 1:36 — season average 1 PPG every 6.7 minutes
    Galchenyuk played 0:42- season average 1 PPG every 7.0 minutes
    Briere played 1:36 — season average 1 PPG every 5.9 minutes
    Eller played 0:42 — season average 1 PPG every 7.8 minutes
    Bournival played zero — season average 1 PPg every 3.8 minutes

    Wouldn’t it be nice if every once in a while the coach actually gave our top PP producers the moist minutes on the PP?he was quoted as saying he determines PP time by which line is playing the best on a given night. Plekanec s line scored both of our goals at even strength, yet got only only 22% of the PP time.

    At even strength:

    Moen played 10 minutes White played 8 minutes and Bournival only 6 minutes. How long will it take for the coaching staff to recognize the obvious?
    When Bournival is on the ice at even strength the HAbs have scored a goal every 22 minutes, (tied for best with Gallagher among habs forwards) with White every 30 minutes and with Moen every 31 minutes. While it is possible to win when you score only two goals , it is easier when you score three or more.

    Overtime:

    Gallagher played 28 seconds on OT, Galchenyuk Bournival, Briere did not play at all.

    Gionta played 2.32.

    penalty kill;

    the Pk was effective shutting out the Capos PP for 7:41 of play while shorthanded.

    Moen and White our two LEAST effective penalty killers played 1:36 and “;50 respectively. It was nice to see White’s time reduced , however, based on the results so far this season Moen should be playing much less on the PK.

    End game management:

    The nonsense with Moen and Briere switching placed in the third period is just that, nonsense. If the coach feels that Briere is not trustworthy enough to protect a lead, he should be replaced by Bournival, not Moen. How does it make sense for Brier to play with White and Bournival but not with Plekanec and Gionta? If a change is necessary let Briere play with Moen and White on teh 4th line in limited minutes.

    By taking Briere off Plekanec s line we are reducing OUR chances of scoring more than we are reducing the opponents chances.

    In summary, Therrien is guilty (my opinion) of over coaching. If he simply used the players that have been most effective and productive and stopped trying to find the “hot” hand we would be better off.

    Bournival deserves more time, unquestionably. he has been every bit as productive as Gallagher this season at even strength and more so on the PowerPlay. If Gallagher was given the minutes that Bournival has been getting what would the reaction be?

    regards,

    Steve O.

  16. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Does Carlyle secrete his lineup before Therrien produces his? Can Therrien not have extra guys in the warmup and play who he needs to counteract whatever goons Carlyle might choose to play?

    There is almost no way that Carlyle puts a hockey team on ice, when he can put a boxing gym out there. Also, as “Canada’s Team”, the Weeds have a duty to play in a way that would make Canada proud! (And that most Canadian of all Canadians, don cherry.)

    As we have seen in the past, Carlyle sends out his thugs whether the Weeds are winning or losing. I only hope that if Parros and Orr tangle, that it’s a clean fight.

    Go Habs!

    • ffenliv says:

      Not that I love the leafs, but the Habs are right up there in fighting majors this year. While the Leafs have had more suspensions, in the past, their proclivity for pugilism was often cited as proof that they’re goons.

  17. ProHabs says:

    Is Tampa Bay ever going to come back to earth or are they that good of a team.

    • Phil C says:

      I thought they were one of the best teams the Habs had faced this year. Good goaltending, a mobile defense, and great puck control and movement. Once they get Stamkos back, I think they are a legitimate contender.

  18. 24 Cups says:

    It’s a fine line between chaos and creation.

    Phoenix has just signed Gilbert Brule to a two-way contract after he had a tryout in the AHL. This is the guy who was the consensus top five pick in 2005. The other top five pick, the one that Trevor Timmins stated the Habs would have selected, was Benny Pouliot who I believe is now toiling for the Rangers. That would be his fifth team in 7 years of NHL service.

    Without Carey Price, the team wouldn’t have a goalie right now. Of if they still had Halak, they wouldn’t have Eller who is still better than Brule or Pouliot. Count your blessings.

    • ProHabs says:

      Always interesting yo look back at the drafts and see stuff like that. You win some and you lose some. The Habs drafted the correct player in Price that year.

    • monmick says:

      Good on Gilbert. I’m actually quite confident that he can pull it together. Pretty strange story about him and his dad. Hopefully that is behind him now…

      Plus he’s got Bono on his side!

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

    • Ton says:

      yes its almost like playing a game of Queenie Eye!

    • Jed says:

      It’s funny how everyone assumes we would have taken Kopitar and not Brule with the Price pick. A lot of the commentariat are harsh on Trevor Timmins when so many teams miss out on “that pick”. Hindsight, eh? Let’s count our blessings with Price.

  19. zephyr says:

    i don’t know if we need parros. much rather have murray in. agree bournival is a waste on the 4th line. i think bourque might be a better fit with eller/galchenyuk. bournival would be good too. mt can always put prust or moen in there if things get too rough although i’d expect our dmen to intervene.
    we stood around in our own end a bit last nite & it cost us. pls don’t have georges & diaz paired again. they lose every battle on the boards & can get pinned in our end. we gotta use our speed on the slow t.o. def..

    • ProHabs says:

      If Murray is not in the lineup, we have no defenceman at all that can intervene when the going gets rough.

    • monmick says:

      Murray won’t be fighting anyone tonight with his stitches. So here’s a crazy thought: Bouillion and Murray both out, go with 5 ds and play PK 32 minutes. Bourque in for Bournival (with clear instructions to hit everything that moves) and Parros in as the 13th forward just in case.

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

    • Ton says:

      if they don’t dress him this game..put him on waivers! I am not saying he should be in or not……..but why have him hang around if we don’t dress him for the likes of the leafs, bruins, etc

  20. Landof10000lakesHab says:

    Is it time to get Prust off the Eller / Galchenyuk line?

    Give Bournival or Bourque a shot. We all think highly of Prust, but playing enforcer on this line is not needed, and is obviously dragging the boys down.

    If MT wants a premier 4th line, then put Prust back there and Habs have one of the best. I would not be concerned at any point in the game to put Moen, White, and Prust out to defend a lead, or to stir up a little excitement if down a goal or two.

    • Colombiahabs says:

      As much as I love that 4th line. I think that the lack of toughness throughout the lineup is a huge deterrent to making that happen. Watching the game last night there was a scrum after the whistle with Eller in the middle of it. With Prust on the ice, it quickly fizzled into nothing. Without him out there we would probably see much more of the past couple years and our young guys like Eller and Galchenyuck will be getting roughed up and embarrassed which is the last thing we want to happen to their confidence. Prust has got to be there or someone else who can provide the same role but still play. The Plex, Briere and Gionta line is a different story. You won’t see many guys taking liberties on 3 vets like that and the league won’t stand for it. Again love that 4th line though. With a true power forward in the lineup it could be a sweet line for a few more years.

      • piper says:

        I agree that Prust is a good deterant to have on that line. Plus he can skate with them and has decent skills. If we had a guy like Evander Kane he’d be perfect on that line.

    • Phil C says:

      I would rather see Prust on the 4th line. Eller and Galchenyuk are big enough boys to defend themselves in most situations, especially Eller.

      • Colombiahabs says:

        Eller can defend himself? Ya ok, lets see what happens when he hits someone and Lucic comes after him. Prust might not win that fight but he will give Lucic a few bruises. Show me Eller in a fight the kid is big and can hit thats what we want him to do, if he hits someone and then gets tuned by a real tough guy you will see his aggressive forechecking go away real quick!

        • Phil C says:

          I said in most situations. You don’t build your lines around the extreme cases. The whole point of hockey is to try to score more goals than the other team, not win the most fights. Prust can’t fight all his battles and lets hope he would have enough sense to not fight Lucic.

  21. commandant says:

    You GOTTA SEE this angle of the Sabres OT goal last night.
    It went Through Gunnarsson’s skate.
    He could shoot that 1000 times and not get the same result.

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/11/30/must-see-the-sabres-ot-goal-went-through-leafs-skate/

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  22. PrimeTime says:

    Hey Lil Dude
    Goalie rankings so far. Which plays for the better team??
    #4 Price
    #22 Halak.

    Just saying….

    http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/player/_/stat/goaltending/sort/savePct

  23. Habs_101 says:

    Tonight I really dont think we need to have Parros in the line, the simple fact that there is so much debate about this is stupid enough, if we put Prust on the fourth and our fourth line CANT outplay theirs than we have bigger problems!

    Patch – DD – Gallagher
    Galch – Eller – Bournival
    Briere – Plekanec – Gionta
    Prust – White – Moen

    with the lead late;

    Moen – Plek – Gionta
    Bournival – Eller – Prust
    Patch – White – Gionta

    Galch – DD – Gallagher (offensive line used for ONLY offense zone starts in last 10 mins)

    Losing late in the game;
    Chucky – Eller – Briere
    Patch – DD – Gallagher
    Bournival – Plekanec – Gionta

    Moen – White – Prust (used ONLY for dzone starts in last 10 minutes)

    GO HABS GO!

    • ProHabs says:

      Parros will be in. Maybe Jacques Martin liked it when his players were pushed around, but MT won’t put up with that shat. I just wish Murray was in the lineup also to go along with Parros. And Tinordi.

      • Habs_101 says:

        Parros will draw in the lineup, play 5-6 shifts be on the ice for 1-2 goals against and beat up Colton Orr and/or Frazer McLaren… The habs will manage to put up 2-3 goals for and the other lines will combine to give up 1-2 goals against and we will lose by 1 goal… Parros drawing into the lineup does nothing to alter the way the leafs are going to play this hockey game.

        Although I do agree, we should have Tinordi and Murray in, boullion and diaz out, they are too small to be effective against the big forwards on Toronto and Boston.

        Would like to see;
        Markov – Subban
        Tinordi – Gorges
        Murray – Emelin

        GO HABS GO!

      • frontenac1 says:

        HNIC, National Game. Can’t see Marc and Mike wanting to see our Lads Bitched slapped from coast to coast. Parros and Murray should both be in,hopefully. Saludos!

  24. Danno says:

    Interview with Alex Galchenyuk on Voice of Russia

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
    Updates, highlights & great discussions on all things Habs

  25. Maritime Ronn says:

    A question for HIO:

    According to the NHL Rules, a visiting team must present its starting line up before the Home team does.
    The home team is allowed to see who the 6 players will start the game, then can decide on whom he wants to start.

    The question is:
    Does the Home Team Coach/Manager see exactly who the 20 players dressed will be, or only the starting line up?

    In other words, If Coach MT knows who, or who will not be in the complete line up (Orr-McLaren) he could then adjust.

    Rule 7 – Starting Line-up

    7.1 Starting Line-up – Prior to the start of the game, at the request of the Referee, the Manager or Coach of the visiting team is required to name the starting line-up to the Referee or Official Scorer.

    Prior to the start of the game, the Manager or Coach of the home team, having been advised by the Official Scorer the names of the starting line-up of the visiting team, shall name the starting line-up of the home team. This information shall be conveyed by the Official Scorer to the Coach of the visiting team.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26283

  26. commandant says:

    Who is the best line in the NHL?
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/11/30/the-best-line-in-the-nhl/

    Storylines to Watch in Calgary, as Changes are coming and vets will be shipped out as the rebuild continues.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/11/30/the-25-game-mark-what-to-watch-in-calgary/

    Go Habs Go!
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  27. B says:

    Phlyers are paying Lecavalier $10M this season ($6M salary + $4M bonus). The breakdown on his 5 year $22.5M deal is $10M year 1, $8M year 2, $6.5M year 3, $3.5M year 4 and $3M year 5. The league really has to do away with front loaded contracts.

    [Edit: I was wrong with the above. His salary includes bonuses and the breakdown on the total is $6M year 1 ($4M of it is bonus), $6M year 2 ($2M of it is bonus)), $4.5M year 3 ($2M of it is bonus), $3M year 4 ($.5M of it bonus) and $3M year 5 (none of it bonus). I over stated it by adding the $8.5M in bonuses which are included and not on top of his salary. Sorry for my confusion, but still some staggering numbers overall for Lecavalier.]

    Lecavalier is also getting paid $4,761,905 by Tampa this season bringing his salary and endorsements (something like $.25M I read) this season to over $15M. Woof! [edit: it's only about $11M this season]

    Tampa has to pay Lecavalier another $4,761,905 next season, $3,761,905 the season after that, and then $1,761,905 for each of the 11 seasons after that (ending in 27/26). Oh, you can add to that the roughly $70M Tampa paid him in salary before buying him out. Staggering numbers.

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • ffenliv says:

      I believe under the new CBA they did limit the back-diving contracts.

      If memory serves, the variation from one year to the next can be no more than 5%. This leaves some room for back-diving on longer contracts. But there might also be a limit on the total variation, percentage-wise, between the first and last years?

      • commandant says:

        There are also penalties if he retires before the end of the contract. Which solves 100% of the problem IMO.

        Go Habs Go!
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      • Maritime Ronn says:

        ” CONTRACT VARIABILITY

        Front-loaded contracts where the average of salary plus bonuses over the first half of the contract exceeds the cap hit, variability rules apply. Year-to-year variability is limited to 35 per cent of the first-year compensation. If a player earns $10M in Year 1, the contract cannot subsequently increase/decrease by more than $3.5M from year to year. Meanwhile, the lowest year’s compensation cannot be less than 50 per cent of the highest year’s compensation. If a player earns $10M in his highest year, he can never earn less than $5M any other year.

        The old 100 per cent rule applies to any other multi-year contract.”

        http://www.capgeek.com/faq/new-cba

        http://www.capgeek.com/faq/what-s-the-100-percent-rule

      • B says:

        I miss read capgeek. His $6M salary this season includes his $4M bonus (and is not in addition to it). Sorry for the confusion. Still, the guy is doing alright cash flow wise.

        –Go Habs Go!–

  28. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Looking ahead to the biggest game of the week….

    The Bruins will have been off for 4 days before Thursday’s tilt. The Habs play Monday and Wednesday.

    Who knows, maybe that’ll favour the Bs. They’ll be a bit rusty.

  29. Stevie.Ray says:

    So, at our worst we are a .500 hockey team?

    Would you agree?

    • Fransaskois says:

      With a healthy roster I’d say that would be the worst we could do. Lose Emelin, Markov, Price, Subban, Plekanec, or even Gorges and I think I’d be saying something very different.

  30. Bill says:

    Timo,roster predictions: Parros in, Bournival out. Murray still out recovering from having the crap punched out of him by that mongoloid goon Scott.

    If it were me, I’d play Bournival instead of Parros.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      I would too. There is no way the Leafs bottom lines can keep up with Bournival…especially on the fore-check. However, I think Parros will play because of what happened in the first game.

  31. Bill says:

    MRonn: If we give him a pass on the Vanek deal – you think he’ll get more than a first and a second? – it’s still hard to defend everything else he has done.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Bill

      Not saying give him a pass, but to just let itself play out.

      The other issue is ownership meddling. ( See Jerry Jones-Dallas Cowboys)
      Snow has 2 choices.
      Accept it and always protect the owner – or resign….and try to find another job that pays him at least $750K per year + perks.

  32. Timo says:

    So no word on who’s in who’s out for tonight?

  33. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Player that I am looking forward to seeing tonight is Clarkson. A good challenge for Montreal’s D. Always a tough guy to handle.

  34. Eddie says:

    So now that Gallagher, at 5 ft 8 and 180 lbs, 21 year old, who has played 69 NHL games, and successfully re-built the career of Desharnais and revived the scoring touch of Pacioretty, what is next on his agenda?

    You know the Canadiens hold those training camps for rookies after the Entry Draft?

    I suggest they invite Gallagher as a player coach to each one, year after year.

    He should play the draft picks into submission.

    Then each draft pick should be given a Brendan Gallagher highlite package video as part of their Habs “gift bag” to take home.

    Within a few years we might, I say might, find another Gallagher.

    But I doubt it.

    He is that good!

    • Just a Habs Fan says:

      I think it is called hard work and a strong desire to win…sadly missing in the bulk of players of today’s NHL

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      hi Eddie

      What surprised me for his age/experience is his vision, his ability to read what’s going on, and lastly, his hands.

      • Eddie says:

        And he broke down his off wing last night, changed up his speed at the blue line, then blew right around the defender and took it straight to to the net!!

        He also has a lighting quick release and a goal scorers shot.

        5th round pick? Are you kidding me?

    • SmartDog says:

      When Gallagher was drafted, I was intrigued so I read what I could about him. Then I went on here (2 or 3 days after he was drafted) and said “this kid’s not just going to make it, he’s going to be good”.

      Of course I didn’t know HOW good or how quick. But if you read his history…. you could see what he might do. I think a lot of credit goes to his dad who trained him like a prized race horse – workouts on Saturday morning, strict diets etc. – and told him repeatedly to use his size as his advantage.

      Which doesn’t mean he couldn’t pass some of what he has on… I think you’re right he could, and they should do it. But just to say he was raised in a great environment to become what he is.

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    • Et le but says:

      He creates time and space for anyone he plays with.

      Could and should win the Jacques Beauchamp trophy this year as the unsung hero since so much of what he brings does not make the stats sheet.

      I also think he is inspiring other small forwards on the team to elevate their intensity; the recent improved play of DD and DB comes to mind.

  35. SmartDog says:

    Here’s a line I would like to see:
    Bournival – Plekanec – Galchenyuk

    I really think Bournival on the 4th line is a waste. He provides energy and scares out pucks on a regular basis. The fact that we NEED him on the 4th line says there are problems with our other 4th liners. Which is something we all know.

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    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Totally agree about Bournival being wasted on the 4th line. He plays a similar style to Gallagher…never stops moving his legs. I’d like to see him with Eller and Chucky, just because Pleks gets put in so many crucial defensive matchups. Don’t think Chucky is ready for that yet.

      • SmartDog says:

        Good point. Would like to see him wiht Eller and Chucky too.
        Part of Chucky’s problem I think is that he thinks the game so well — he can stick handle in a phone booth and so can Eller and Gallagher… Prust… not so much!

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    • HardHabits says:

      Bournival – Plekanec – Gionta was pretty awesome

  36. Bill says:

    Dipsy: It’s true that Phaneuf gets a pass compared to PK despite the fact that:

    -He is terrible instead of awesome
    -He is ill-mannered and poorly spoken instead of courteous and eloquent
    -He is a coward instead of a stand-up guy

    Subban gets questioned on HNIC, Phaneuf gets a pass. Another reason I’m not sad to see HNIC die.

    • SmartDog says:

      But Phaneuf:
      – looks like what people expect hockey players to look like.
      – gets endorsement from the games reigning dinosaur.
      – plays the white way.

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  37. Maritime Ronn says:

    Some interesting insights from former MLSE CEO Richard Peddie on the recent Rogers TV deal.
    Pay attention Rogers people.

    So what do you think about the deal?
    “To pay for this deal, you’ve got to increase cable fees. You’ve got to be able to find a way to be able to charge for digital content. They’ve got to pay for it, somehow … So much of digital is free, that’s going to have to be a shift in consumer thinking.”

    And TSN?
    “They say TSN was shut out, but with the increased cost of games, plus the increased production costs — because they’re talking about really doing a job on all these games — it’s going to be really expensive. Really expensive. So I wouldn’t be surprised if they lay some stuff off to TSN. I wouldn’t count them out at all. And then TSN could probably get back in, in four years. I think this could be the slope downward for CBC.”

    And the CBC …
    “Oh, CBC is, I think, essentially out of it now. Even though they’re going to have it for four years, and it’s going to be on Saturday, they’re out of the hockey business.”

    http://sports.nationalpost.com/2013/11/27/dont-count-out-tsn-after-nhl-deal-with-rogers-watch-for-increase-in-cable-fees-ex-mlse-ceo-richard-peddie/

    • SmartDog says:

      Interesting, thanks.

      BTW, Rogers sucks. Really. I expect the quality of coverage to go down. And of course, as you say, the cost will go up. That’s much of like their cell phone network. (Telus and Bell are both better.)

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      • Maritime Ronn says:

        A lot of ‘unknown unknowns’ still to play themselves out.

        Rogers will have to poach some TSN people included the technical folks.
        Who knows if they have non-compete clauses or whether BCE steps to the plate and holds on to them to force the hand of Rogers.
        BCE has the financial cajones to do that if they wanted to.
        Those are just a few tiny questions.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      I’m not an advertising guru but it seems that advertising prices for sports is going up. Sports is mostly watched live unlike regular shows which are PVR’d or “Netflixed” nowadays. It makes sense that TV advertising dollars shift towards live events like sports. The increase should not be as much if advertising revenue goes up (who really knows). Anyway, cable costs always go up regardless of what is happening with each provider. In the end, supply and demand always rules out…and there is plenty of demand in Canada.

  38. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Is Murray out for sure?

  39. Cal says:

    9 of the last 10pts bodes well for the Habs as they prep for the laffs tonight. That team, by the by, is doing what the stats geeks call “reverting to the mean”. Their recent success is not sustainable due to them being the laffs, after all. And with possibly one of the worst Dmen in the league as their captain? It is to laff.

  40. Bill says:

    Dipsy: I don’t know if the Islanders are just cursed or what, but they are the worst managed team in the NHL for like decades. Snow might be worse than Milbury, which strains credulity, but is true.

    Not only did he trade Moulson … he threw in a first and a second round pick!!

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      You forgot Niederreiter for a third-liner. Anyway, no one is worse than Milbury. He trade Chara, Luongo and Spezza for nothing…he killed that franchise for more than a decade.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      Bill

      First of all, Snow’s hands have been tied with the Budget ownership gave him.

      He was only allowed to get to the Cap Floor and there were some insane non hockey moves such as when they ‘traded’ for Tim Thomas so they could have his $4M Cap Hit on the books even if he wasn’t playing.

      As for the trade, let it play itself out.
      There is always the possibility the Islanders could flip Vanek and possibly receive a better package.
      Time will tell.

  41. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Bernier – Price…should be a good matchup.

    Don’t understand why Bournival isn’t on the third line.

  42. Habfan10912 says:

    Islander Coach Capuono not on the ice at their morning practice. No word on why. Wanna guess?

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Sprained ankle?

      If anyone needs to be fired in that org its the Snowman.

      Nederreiter for Clutterbuck?

      Trading Moulson instead of re-signing him?

    • Cal says:

      Looks like the Isles management have killed another coach with their impatience and bizarre player moves.
      The worst part is that Capuano is a pretty good coach, but hasn’t enough quality players and “losing fatigue” has settled in.

  43. John Q Public says:

    @Maritime Ron
    It’s 4th and 1 tonight.
    Hope MT calls Heavy Jumbo !!!
    Saturday night Slobberknocker !!!

  44. The Dude says:

    When asked about tonights outcome ,Mayor Rob Ford replied”Hookers and Blow go Marlies go”
    Myself , well I’ll be disappointed if Parros don’t play.

  45. Sportfan says:

    Told friends of mine that don’t like Hockey that they should be careful tonight. A lot testosterone will be flying about with this rivalry game and I don’t want to imagine what next Thursday will be like. Either way GO HABS GO kick the Leafs teeth in the only way we know how by scoring and using our speed!

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  46. PrimeTime says:

    1st on the poll!!

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  47. 24 Cups says:

    I live in laff land so here are a few random thoughts and observations on tonight’s big tilt. (re-posted from another thread a few minutes ago).

    I’ll be watching the game at my favourite watering hole in Slowville as I don my Guy Lafleur jersey. As a frequent visitor, I’m allowed to reserve my favourite seat at the bar. Now that’s what I call service.

    Tonight’s game will be Toronto’s 5th in 8 nights. Even worse, it’s their 3rd game in 4 nights this week with all of them being on the road.

    The laffs got off to a hot start (6-1-0) but have now fallen to 8-8-3. Most of their wins can be attributed to hot goaltending and special teams.

    Eight of their fourteen wins have come against non-playoff ranked teams.

    Losing Bolland and Lupul to injury really hurts their chances. They basically have lost an entire line, as well as some valuable leadership. Contrast that to Montreal who is only missing Bourque and Murray (although this means Frankie has to play back-to-back games).

    Everyone knows that Toronto gives up too many shots. On average, they get outshot 36.5 to 26.5 which is the worst differential in the league. The league average is 29.8 which sees the laffs ranked 28th in the department. How bad is it? No team in the past 8 years has a SD as bad as Toronto does right now.

    It then comes as no surprise that Toronto ranks 29th in terms of puck possession (42%). Montreal is 15th in this regard. Spending 58% of your time in your own end certainly puts a lot of heat on your D and goaltender. I wonder what Grabovski is doing these days?

    40% of Toronto’s goals come from non-even-strength situations. 84% of those even-strength goals come from “off the rush”. Trust me, that’s not good news in today’s NHL.

    Toronto’s penalty kill has gone to hell in a hand basket. Earlier in the year they were ranked 2nd in the league. They now sit 20th.

    Another issue is the laff’s inability to play consistent hockey in all three periods. A prime example of that is the game against Pittsburgh earlier this week when Toronto didn’t register even one single shot in the third period. I wonder if Mike Boone or Dave Stubbs can ever remember that happening before.

    I also wonder if Toronto is suffering from a leadership vacuum. Their captain, Dion Phaneuf, stated that he was happy to see the team pick up a point against Pittsburgh. This after squandering 4-1 and 5-3 leads to only then wither and die in the 3rd period. Are you kidding me? Besides their captain, Toronto basically has Clarkson, Bolland and Lupul in the leadership department. Side note: Hab fans debate the re-signing of Markov. Just think how tough a decision it’s going to be when it comes to the Phaneuf contract. Major implications to be sure as it probably will be a 7 or 8 year deal.

    Just like Montreal in October, Toronto is presently suffering from roster depletion. On any given night they have to dress:
    Trevor Smith – career minor leaguer
    McLaren and Orr – 4th line, limited minute goons
    Peter Holland and Carter Ashton – stalled rookies
    Jarred Smithson – journeyman
    Paul Ranger – cap relief on Liles contract

    Reilly, Holland and McLaren were healthy scratches last night in Buffalo. Jonathan Bernier, from Laval, gets the start in front of his hometown fans and family. That’s certainly a red flag as far as I’m concerned. The Raymond-Kadri-Clarkson line is the unit to watch. If they can’t score, then all the pressure reverts back onto Kessel.

    Quote of the day: “We’ve been preaching and we’ve been pleading with our players to just direct pucks towards the net and drive the middle lane,” Carlyle said. “We’re far, far too cute. We just refuse continually to direct pucks and we’re not getting that second and third opportunity, that flurry of shots.” (Coach Carlyle)
    That sounds a lot like the Habs of yesteryear under Gainey and Martin.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      Phaneuf is a player I absolutely would not want on my team. He is the anti-Subban. Teams tend to have the puck and the scoring opportunities when he is on the ice. He has the personality of a garden vegetable.

      Another way he is Subban’s opposite is he doesn’t get taken to task every week on HNIC despite being the leafs capt and highest earner.

  48. IdleNoMore says:

    1st

    “He was chewing Juicy Fruit gum, I didn’t know whether to shake his hand or kiss him”


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