A heavy week continues

The Canadiens are on Long Island tonight, where Alex Auld gets his first start of the season.

And one more sleep till the return of Andrei Markov.

• He’s big, he’s bald, he’s starting

Dave Stubbs on Auld

• Red Fisher on big goals

• Sean Gordon feature on Geoff Molson

• Bertrand Raymond is not a Scott Gomez fan

• Réjean Tremblay on Guy Lafleur

And Christie Brinkley loves Islander hockey



  1. Storm Man says:

    I have no clue if he does advertising for Viagra. If he does that would be a hard habit.

  2. joeybarrie says:

    Did you really just say a guy who has been involved in 20-25 % of ALL goals the team has scored every year in 10 years with 3 different teams, doesn’t make the players better????

    Explain why when the 3 times Gomez played with Gio he had his 3 BEST SCORING SEASONS????

    FUNNY cause the two times he played with GIONTA and GIONTA had his 2 best seasons it was despite the fact he missed OVER 20 games BOTH TIMES…. IMAGINE HOW MANY GOALS GIO WOULD HAVE HAD IN THOSE 20 GAMES???

    3 of Elias’ best 4 seasons he played with Gomez

    Peter Sykora’s best season was when he was playing with Gomez

    Alexander Mogilny’s 2nd best season after the Sabres was with Gomez.

    Chris Drury had his best season with the Rangers with Gomez.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  3. pic1983 says:

    Ian, I like you, you’re a great guy, and I love the positive energy, but you have your habs goggles on right now big time my friend.  By your logic, we’re paying gomez $8 million to play keep away?

    The frustrating thing about Gomez is that we all know he’s capable of more. He just refuses to adapt to his linemates or change up his game a bit to have some success.  He does the same thing every time, and its not generating offense which is what he is paid $8 million to do. 

    With the way he is currently playing, he has in NO WAY contributed to our current success.  When i look at the ice time at the end of the game I am actually shocked because you would swear gomez barely played 4 minutes, thats how invisible he is. 

  4. mike g says:

    When we talk about Halak, it’s not the same as when we talk about AK27 and Komi..

    You can tell why people bring up Halak’s name on this site.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  5. TomNickle says:

    Gomez has given Gionta plenty of gifts.  Gionta’s been shooting from bad areas.  How many 45 footers has Gionta taken instead of moving closer to the net or into the slot before shooting?

    A lot.

    I don’t thing Gomez’s play has been good enough.  But I’m not gonna make a stupid ass remark like he doesn’t make his teammates better or is a liability.  Because they’re both blatantly false.

  6. punkster says:

    Hey, gimme some alternatives. You’re big on dumb Gomez decisions. Let’s hear your alternatives.

  7. TomNickle says:

    No, what we have is a, you don’t understand hockey problem.

    My point was that Hamrlik and Spacek appreciate Gomez carrying the puck out of the zone because they’re having trouble moving the puck and don’t have to make a quick or forced decision with the puck when he does so.

    They aren’t lighting it up.  I never said they were.  But that doesn’t mean Gomez doesn’t make his teammates better.  You seem to have the misguided opinion that a player needs to score a point/game to be effective.  That’s typical of an arm chair GM who’s never played the game and doesn’t understand it.

    I was the first one to criticize Price on a deflected goal on Boone’s game blog the other night and have been highly critical of Scott Gomez thusfar this season.

    But I’m not going to say we traded the wrong goalie 9 games into the season and I’m not gonna make a dumbass remark like Gomez doesn’t make his teammates better because they’ve only generated 3 goals through 9 games.

  8. pic1983 says:

    So we’re paying gomez $8 million this year to carry the puck into the offensive zone and than give it away just so that the defensemen dont have to make a breakout pass, and so forecheckers dont have to worry about getting checked into the boards?

    Im sure Lars eller can do all that, and he doesnt cost $8 million. 

    As for scoring chances? What scoring chances? He’s not exactly giving his linemates Gifts like pleks gives his linemates. 

  9. HardHabits says:

    As long as you dont say he’s a rabbit with a hard habit we’re cool. :)

  10. pic1983 says:

    You’re right on both counts.

    How some fans, who claim they watch the games, try to defend Gomez’ play is beyond me…

    Every game he’s just going through the motions.  Doing his own thing.  Terribly frustrating because you know he has more talent than that.

    Is his salary way over his capabilities? Absolutely.  However, least season he barely played like a forward worthy of $5 million, nevermind $8 million.  This year? He’s playing like someone who should be a healthy scratch. 

    Gomez and Pleks should have their salaries switched because Pleks play could more easily justify the $7.3 million cap hit. 

  11. SmartDog says:

    Well more dumb decisions on top of other dumb decisions doesn’t make good decisions.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  12. SmartDog says:

    Well more dumb decisions on top of other dumb decisions doesn’t make good decisions.


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  13. joeybarrie says:

    We had 9 wins in the playoffs. Gomez had points in 7 of them. Points in one that went to overtime, and points in the game we lost to Philly. (the one where we scored). Your right.

    1999-2000 Leads team in Assists, 2 behind point leader.Won the Cup

    2000-2001 Second on team in Assists. Stanley Cup Finals

    2002-2003 Leads the team in Assists. 2 Behind point leader. WON THE CUP

    2003-2004 Leads team in assists. 1st round of Playoffs

    2005-2006 Leads team in assists, Gio helps him have his best season. 1st round

    2006-2007 2nd by one in team assists. 2nd round of playoffs

    2007-2008 Leads team in assists, one off by points. 2nd round of playoffs

    2008-2009 Leads team in assists. 1st rounf of playoffs

    2009-2010 Leads team in assists. Conf Finals

    1999 he had assists in 20% of the teams goals…

    2000 he had assists in 17%

    2001                          19%

    2002                          19%

    2003                          26%

    2005                          21%

    2006                          22%

    2007                          25%

    2008                          20%

    2009                          22%


    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  14. TripleX says:

    Yes Gionta and Gomez’s other rotating wingers are lighting it up.  That second line is dominating isn’t it?

    Outlet pass?  Gomez likes to take the puck from inside his own blueline so what outlet pass?

    We have a distinct difference of opinion on the value of Gomez vis a vis his contract.  I have no problem with that.  Clearly you do have a problem with anyone who critisizes Gomez OR Price.  Garbage is in the eye of the beholder and highly subjective.


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  15. TomNickle says:

    He had two scoring chances on him through 55 minutes last night.

  16. dh says:

    At the office and IT guy insists on one browser for everyone and it’s IE8.  I’m already on his sh*tlist for refusing to install Outlook for my mail.  Besides, it’s only here that I really have an issue and it wouldn’t go over well if I used that argument.

  17. punkster says:

    Here’s an idea. Let’s fire their assses. No demotions, no sending to Hamilton and the whole waiver crap, no trades because NOBODY would ever want their contracts. Just fire them. Put the Gs in the press box and leave them there.


    There you go SD. Now who do you call up for replacements?

  18. Bugs says:

    Tell you what when we make the final? That I’m happy Gomie’s on the team or that he’s worth every cent Sather gave him?

    No, possession is not 9/10s of the law, Mr.Ian, it’s a fraction of the law that may or may not have an incidence on a particular game same as aaaaall the other fractions of the law that may or may not have an incidence on a particular game. Thing is, every game is a particular game. Is it important? Of course, it’s important. But so is scoring goals and stopping pucks.

    And uh, what scouting reports are you referring to?

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  19. dh says:

    A bit more domination would cut down on the stress of all of these one goal games.  But they’ve been pretty fun to watch this year.  Haven’t really seen a game yet that the teams wasn’t skating.


  20. habsguy says:

    I (as usual) couldn’t agree with you more Ian…the team is going so good right now,  why anyone would want to bench our highest paid player and disrupt what we have going right now is way beyond me.  Gomez is a not a rookie who hasn’t earned the respect of his mates,  he’s a star, one of our better players,  he may make too much money but whos fault is that.  It’s kinda like when we had Saku,  everyone dumped on him because he wasn’t a #1 center,  was that his fault?…People!!!!!! sit back and enjoy the ride, we are not the leafs with wilson belittling and demoralizing the team…we are the HABS!!!!!!!!

  21. Storm Man says:

    Where is your car?

  22. TomNickle says:

    Gomez doesn’t make his teammates better?

    I’m pretty sure the combination of Hamrlik and Spacek appreciate him taking the puck coast to coast three times per game when they can’t even complete an outlet pass.

    I’m sure his linemates appreciate that when he carries the puck deep into the offensive, they don’t have to forecheck on a loose puck that will result in them taking a good lick from what will surely be a bigger defenseman.

    Gomez carrying that puck also allows his linemates time to setup where they can generate scoring chances or even get line changes if need be.

    Total garbage from you.

  23. SmartDog says:

    Not too shabby indeed Ian. Not too shabby at all!

    But don’t you ever think just for a minute – wow, with the team playing this well if we had a strong second line we could just DOMINATE.  I’m frugal by nature. Spending first line money on a line that isn’t even living up to 2nd line status is crazy-making.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  24. Storm Man says:

    And just think if some on here said Thomas was the best puck stopper in the NHL right now…. 5-0 with a 0.60GAA with 2 SO and a .981 SV%…. A JD on the rocks would be what the doctor ordered.

  25. Bugs says:

    Still, Halak is pretty good though.

    Maybe we shoulda gotten more for him instead of a hard-workin, non-producin prospect no one ever heard of 4 months ago.

    You know, for an Olympic Titan and NHL playoff hero with a four-year winning sheet in the League and the mental toughness of Mount Rushmore? Seems we coulda gotten more, no? For the team? Team we’re talkin about? No?

    Unless of course, Halak is none of those things and the move was really, really smart and well thought-out. In which case, let’s watch Halak and CONFIRM that we made the best move for the team. Team we’re talkin about.


    I mean, we do it for the Artiste and Komisarek. How great we look without them. We talk about them too. Few laughs. All in good fun. We can talk about Halak, no?

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  26. TomNickle says:

    Show me a team with less overpaid players.  That was quite a nice paragraph you put together but you’re ignoring the fact that we are in no different of a cap boat than the other 29 teams.  In fact, as the cap continues to rise which it can only do until another CBA is negotiated, are financial position in relation to available dollars to spend on new additions or contract extensions only improves.

    Your argument started with we have overpaid players and now it’s that we have underachieving players.

    So, what team in the NHL doesn’t have underachieving players?  None.

    This whole discussion is nothing but making mountains out of mole hills.


  27. mike g says:

    There’s one reason why it’s relevant…

    Because it burns your ass*s when Halak plays well this year. It does, and I can see it.

    Everyone is waiting for him to slump so that we Hab fans can justify trading the man who made us all happy in our pants last spring.

    News Flash: It ain’t gonna happen. H will not slump, he’s a good goalie, no question about that.

    So please realize that in a salary cap world, we had to chose between him and our best forward. We made a choice, now live with it.

    No need to keep on repeating the nonsense about, “Oh look guys, H got another shutout last night. OMG we traded the best goalie ever to put on pads. Etc, etc, etc…”

    Nonsense: As long as Price wins and the Habs win, that’s what makes my life happy. What H and the Blues do, I couldn’t care less.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  28. Ian Cobb says:

    ROB, we will be getting better as we go along. Power play included. But remember that there are 30 teams in this competitive league. And if we win tonight we sit in number 1 overall spot.!!

    Not to shabby a message to tell the rest of the league.

  29. TripleX says:


    A great player makes those he plays with better.  Pleks does that and Gomez does not.  That is why Pleks deserves every bit of his salary, he can play with any winger and still make an effective line.  Why does Gomez need some special winger to GO TO THE NET!

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  30. boneheadslanger33 says:

    Thanks, sometimes I over-react

  31. Storm Man says:

    The post of the day………. “And by never played the game” you mean the NHL? So that only 700 people at a time and ex-NHLers can talk hockey? The coaches should shut their mouths. The last time I looked most coaches played pro hockey. Bugsyboy you just can’t help yourself you’re a rabbit with a habit.

  32. habs365 says:

    I’m commenting on what 20,000 Habs fans are saying, players paid big dollars are making a lot of mistakes, sometimes don’t come to play, right now they are getting away with it but it’ll catch up and we’ll see how long they’ll be in first place. they are playing as a team but they’re not scoring as a team one line is doing 90% of the scoring and it’ll catch up and first place will become fourth place who knows from there. I’m not taking nothing away from them they’re playing great righ now so was toronto a week ago how are they looking now…


  33. SmartDog says:

    Someone should add up all the seconds between when Gomez squirrels his way through the dangerous neutral zone until he loses or dishes the puck just inside the blue line.  I bet there’s a LOT of puck possession there.  At least 30-40 seconds worth per game.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  34. Ian Cobb says:

    Don’t forget to tell us that when we make the finals this year rabbit.

    And yes possession is 9 tenths of the law my friend. When we scout players on our scouting report, first stat is time of ice per player, and second is personal time of possession.

  35. boneheadslanger33 says:

    True Halak does play for the Blues and he was traded, the relevance to this website lies here; one of the players he was traded for is now on the Montreal Canadiens roster and one is in the Montreal Canadiens system. Many believe that the trade freed up enough cap space to re-sign, arguably, the Montreal Canadiens best forward, Thomas Plekanec. So you see Jean, it is quite relevant

  36. LNev says:

    Not to weigh on on the Halak issue… BUT (shudder) just a quick look at your points:

    (2) Concerning the trade…Gauthier could not take back a top six forward in exchange for Halak…Eller may eventually be a good top six forward.

    So basically, Gauthier may have gotten a top six forward in exchange for Halak, and at a salary much lower then a top-six forwards usual salary (3-5 million).

     (3) I feel Pouliot is getting a bum rap for Gomez’s play. Maybe we should drop Gomez and go with a line such as Pouliot, Gionta and Eller

    You’ve already put this non-top six forward into the top six.

    Additionally, I keep reading that PG should have or could have gotten more for Halak, but the reality of the situation (reality never works on the internet though) is that we have no clue what he could have gotten, what was offered or even what he was asking for.  Perhaps he asked for Perron and Backes and was told to “screw-off you n00b!” By Davidson…

    All we know is the deal he agreed on was the deal he considered the best for the team at the time. 



  37. mike g says:

    I’m not trying to control..

    It’s just so annoying that everyone has to still bring up the H trade, and make comments like he’s the best in the game, etc…

    Why not talk about Pleks, that faboulous player we chose to keep instead of H? Yea, you know that 5 mill we spent on our most reliable and responsable player, not to mention on heck of a treat to watch?

    But no, everytime STL plays, the next day this site becomes Blues Inside/Out.

    Our team is 1st in the Conference and 2nd overall and were still bringing up H.

    Immagine if we had started like the Devils have, this place would have been bombed and look like a ghost town by now.

    It’s sad, but that’s Habs fans for you.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  38. SmartDog says:

    What I don’t get about the situation with our 2nd line is:

    1. No matter what else these guys are, they are SMART.  Watch Plekanec, he’s so patient with the puck, he pounces on openings, he does the little things right. Gomer and Gio SOMETIMES have done those same kinds of things but they’re not doing them now, or not as much.  Squeezing the stick tight yeah whatever…. talk it out, think it out, and ADAPT.  They’re doing the same thing, it’s very predicatable, and not effective.  Why not use the opportunity to play a little differently – Gomez could surprise some D-men by cutting in.  Whatever. It just kills me to watch the SAME thing over and over. It’s like Groundhog day without the laughs.

    2. Martin NEEDS to send a message. If players aren’t performing and aren’t listening you need to speak to them in their language. Gomez seems like a proud guy as most hockey players are. But even though he gets trashed on here, when has Martin shortened his bench and let Gomez sit. Why are players with the same kinds of stats getting shrugged off while Gomez and his endless and useless circling is getting prime ice time.  I don’t like the guy but I KNOW he can play better than this.  And it’s up to Martin to motivate Gomez to adapt if Gomez can’t do it himself.

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  39. Bugs says:

    Cammalleri too. It’s what he said, right?

    The money we offered and which their previous teams couldn’t afford to pay them had nothing to do with it.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  40. TripleX says:

    If Halak was having a terrible start, you can bet the same people complaining would be all over the story, that includes Mr. Boone.  :)

    Some are just annoyed that Halak is playing out of his mind right now.  Silly to get so riled up over something juvenile like this.

    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  41. mike g says:

    I do agree…

    But it’s not normal how many times we pound-down this nonsense. Mr. H isn’t even with us anymore, and I find it a shame that every good performance he delivers has to be reported and discussed about here. I bet you 0.4% of the posters on this website actually watched that NSH-STL game last night, yet everyone comments on it. It’s like it’s a race to who’s gonna slump 1st, Price or H. And what does it give to always have to bring H up in our debates, he’s gone and he’s not a Hab anymore. For all we care, he can lose 20 in a row and we’d still be happy as long as the Habs win.

    It just gives no benefit to this website that we always have to bring him up again.

    And the Gomez contract? Comon, it’s signed and he’s on our team. We went crazy last year about the contract, and then shut up when the playoffs came because we were happy about winning. And now the season starts again and were still bitch*ng about it again. How does that make sense?

    All those deals have been done, let’s shut our mouths and live with them. Gomez is overpaid, there I said it. Will me saying it change anything? No. I could have said the earth is round and been just as correct.

    Let’s just enjoy our team, because they’re doing one heck of a job towards making us proud.

    Were 1st in the Conference, and we still bring up H. Immagine if we were in the bottom of the pack….



    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  42. Exit716 says:

    What does the team look like if the rumoured Lecavalier trade with Tampa goes down at the 2009 draft?

    Blame Gainey all you want, but Bettman also interfered and affected the competitive balance of the league when he vetoed the trade.


  43. Bugs says:

    Possession is a factor in the game among others; it’s not THE factor. Those factors have a cumulative effect. For example: possession won’t mean squat if the other goalie stops everything or if you miss the net every time you shoot.

    As for Gomie, I got nothing against the guy. He came through when it counted most, Happy to have him on the team.

    But uhhh, no, Mr.Ian, he’s NOT “worth every cent” Sather gave him, um, uh, no. If he WAS, then Plecky would be making 11mil a year.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  44. falconea says:

    The only reason gionta signed with the Habs is because Gomez was there.

  45. Rugger says:

    Smiler, ever seen a pack of angry Hab Dogs?

  46. TripleX says:

    No poster can control the subject matter on the site, that is up to the site owners.  You really need to chill about Halak.

    Whether you like it or not Halak is a story in the entire NHL with his early performance this season.  You are sounding petulant.


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  47. pic1983 says:

    Halak plays for the blues, discussing him isnt relevant to a website for fans of the Montreal Canadiens.  And Carey is playing great, so no reason to debate the trade any further. 

    Halak is gone, and he aint comin back, people have to learn to deal with it. 

  48. Bugs says:

    Nice edit.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  49. pic1983 says:

    I think Gio should try some different sticks and curves.  Doesnt look like he can put the puck where he wants it. 


    Obviously Gio knows better than me, but frustrating to watch him take so many shots right at the goalie, or miss the net. 

  50. kempie says:

    A happy Mac user using Safari here and I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Sounds gross though.

  51. Ian Cobb says:

    There is a part of the game that a lot of you do not give enough credit, to players that are not scoring.

    Remember that it takes a great player to keep possession of the puck in this league. Every Minuit Gomez and Gionta or PK have the puck on their sticks, the opposition does not.

    The team that maintains more possession time, generally wins the contest folks. And they are on the puck a lot during the course of a game.

    A lot more to playing the game than scoring goals. They are worth every cent that they are paid boys and girls.


    See everyone at Hurley’s Pub next Friday night to watch the game on big screen.!!!  IT’S SUMMIT TIME !!!

  52. boneheadslanger33 says:

    Although you don’t like to hear about the Halak trade and Scott Gomez’s contract I’m sure you will agree that this is relevant subject matter when discussing the Montreal Canadiens on a website devoted to “absolutely everything about the Montreal Canadiens”. 

  53. Bugs says:

    Can someone win that dang lottery already?!

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  54. TomNickle says:

    Show me a team in the NHL with less overpaid players please.


  55. TomNickle says:

    If Gomez doesn’t get the tying goal against Washington in game 1 it’s quite possible that our team doesn’t build the confidence needed to beat them out.

    Gomez, funny enough.  Was one of the few players who actually showed up to play against Philadelphia.  People tend to forget that due to us losing that series.

  56. habs365 says:

    so what you’re saying, Glen Sather signed Gomez to that contract, that would indicate when Gainey took Gomez the contract came with him, than Gainey is still responsable for taking him, no matter whom signed Gomez to that contract the Habs is stuck with it, so it is  and will be a few  years unless a couple of top rookies come along, prevent the Habs from bringing in a top scorer or two that could make a difference in winning or losing a stanley cup. the team is playing great for now but they are carrying too many over paid players and it’s too bad. they could have brought in some real good players for less and had a real good chance of winning their 25th cup and that’s not saying they can’t do it this year, they’re only 9 games in but one line can’t carry a team for 82 games, hope they get a second line producing real soon…

  57. TomNickle says:

    I’m not reading much about Gionta choosing to take slap shots from 40 feet out when he’s got room to skate another 25 feet toward the net prior to shooting.

    I’m not reading about Gomez and Gionta playing mostly with Hamrlik and Spacek which clearly hinders the ability of that forward line to generate speed coming out of our zone.

    The only thing pertinent to the argument that Gomez and Gionta aren’t going well is that they don’t have a consistent left winger.

  58. kirkiswork says:

    Last game Gio had a couple of glorious chances that were set up by Gomer.

    It’ll come.

  59. TomNickle says:

    Gainey didn’t give Gomez the big money.  The big money came with Gomez.

    Gomez would be a good third line player?  How’s that now?  Because of his tenacious forechecking and ability to provide a high energy shift?



  60. Bugs says:

    A lot of players are “gone and not coming back”; that doesn’t mean it’s an asinine comment when we comment on their competence.

    And by “never played the game”, you mean the NHL? So that only 700 people at a time and the ex-NHLers can talk about hockey? The coaches should shut their mouths. Bob McKenzie should shut his mouth? Is that it? So how many years were YOU in the NHL so that we CAN stand your asinine comments? How does that work?

    Or do you mean “played hockey” as in REGULAR-everyone’s-played-hockey “played hockey”? Cuz Tony’s played hockey. We’ve all played hockey. And none of us are blind. Even that aside though, why is his opinion less worthwhile than yours?

    Imo, only Ryan Miller was more consistently excellent than Halak last year, and so far, no one is more consistently excellent than him this year. That may change as the year progresses and I intend to modify that statement in consequence through no fault of my own. As we say: call it like you see it.

    Now, if you disagree, that means it’s entirely wrong of course, because you who “played hockey” and SEES better than the common person, knows the Truth of All Things.


    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  61. joeybarrie says:

    1. Every player’s salary impact the teams Cap. Most teams in the NHL have something very similar. Gomez has impacted this team in a positive way. A way no one else who was available could’ve done. It was a great move. WHY? Cause we ended up in the Conf Finals and Gomez had ALOT of those assists that got us there.

    2. No one was giving up a top 6 forward for a goalie that had really only good numbers for 1 year and was only the number one for less than a full season. Not with the options that were out there (13 UFA goalies that were signed back into the NHL). Besides needlessly paying 7-8 million for two goalies is not a smart move.

    3. How is Pouliot getting a bum rap when he hasn’t really gotten enough time on that line??? AGAIN Gionta gets a pass despite his LOWER production than Gomez. When last season you were on pace for 32 goals playing WITH Gomez, how is it in a few games the next season you can decide whether it will work or not?

    Then we talk about the end of the season and the playoofs where Pouliot didnt score.  WELL, POULIOT average 11 min in the playoffs and Gomez average 21. Gomez and Gio became the top line. Cammi spent time on both lines during games and maximized his goals because the teams we played against couldn’t settle with us.

    I wonder where we would be without Gaineys moves… When the team has a successful playoff run you include all the players. We though losing Moore was a mistake. IT WASNT. WHY? Cause we are leading the EAST without our best player.

    Honestly, if you really think having Gomez off this team would be better than ON this team, then I suspect you either don;t understand what goes on during the games, or watch a different team and catch yourself up on the highlights.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  62. Storm Man says:

    I must have been asleep, When did Raymond become a employed NHL general manager?

  63. J Haul says:

    Holy smokes that was awful man. It was actually a campaign. If you hunt around the web you’ll find a few more ads like that one.

  64. RTC says:

    Thanks, I thought it was something like that.

  65. J Haul says:

    Firefox + adblockplus ftw!

  66. Storm Man says:

    Jordio you had to bring his mother into it.

  67. mike g says:

    Alright, I’m outta here…

    It sucks because today’s a gameday, but I’m not gonna waste my time talking about the H-word and the Gomez contract. It’s just not worth it.

    If you guys switch subject later, I’ll be back.

    Have a good one…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  68. mjames says:

    Raymond makes some very compelling points although he could have pointed out other implications to the Gomez signing. 

    (1) Gomez’s salary has impacted the team’s cap in a negative way. Because of cap inflexibility Halak had to be traded as they could not have signed both Pleks and Halak. I happen to think that, given the situation Gainey put the team in, Gauthier made the right decision in signing Pleks and trading Halak. 

    (2) Concerning the trade, Gainey’s moves also had an impact. Gauthier could not take back a top six forward in exchange for Halak  as he could not accommodate such a player under the cap. Instead he took back a prospect. Although Eller may eventually be a good top six forward, cap inflexibility prevented Habs from maximizing Halak’s value.

    (3) I feel Pouliot is getting a bum rap for Gomez’s play. Maybe we should drop Gomez and go with a line such as Pouliot, Gionta and Eller.


    Although I may be accused of nit picking given the teams’ performance, you have to wonder how much better this team could be if not for Gainey’s inexplicable moves and specifically the Gomez signing.  



  69. Storm Man says:

    Must be a slow day at team 990 or happy hour.

  70. Bugs says:

    Agree. Gotta send Gio down too.

    And I’ll add: bring Poolio back up.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  71. nick says:

    You can’t give the title best goal tender in the world after he has a hot season. Sure Halak played well one season… Brodeur has been doing it for years.


  72. joeybarrie says:

    Explain to me why, IF NO ONE ON THE 2nd LINE IS PRODUCING, you send down Gomez.

    You gotta send down Gionta too. He has LESS points. Gionta is supposed to score the goals and Gomez passes. It drives me crazy that people are SO blinded by Gomez’ contract you actually think Gomez is the only problem on that line…

    So BIASED.  I have yet to hear any type of argument Gomez is SOLELY responsible for the lack of production on the 2nd line.

    Sending him down to the third is just a stupid idea. It makes no sense. Like putting KOVY on the 4th in Ottawa. Yup WORKED GREAT FOR THEM… Useless.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  73. nick says:

    I think it’s a little early to call top goalie honors after 8-9 games… But thats just me.


  74. Everlasting1 says:

    Whatever. I remember the pps, the heavy traffic in front, the screens and deflections. All were factors.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  75. TomNickle says:

    They won’t stop.  Halak gave up 9 goals on 50 shots in a 7 period time span against the Capitals and he’s still the hero that carried this team through the first round.

    He’s the same goalie who cost us a game against the Penguins and let in the soft goals that Price gets ridiculed for against the Flyers.

    If it weren’t for him crapping the bed early in the series we easily could’ve won it in 5 games instead of 7.

  76. observer says:

    Halak is currently on a 153 minutes and counting shutout streak.

  77. TomNickle says:

    Yep.  He sure is.  And we’ve seen it before.  So when the bloom comes off the rose and he lets in 10 in 2 and a half games does that make you fair game?

    Can I come at you at that point and say Price is a Vezina candidate and that Halak is a bum?

  78. mike g says:

    Take a guess who owns the longest shutout streak in NHL history?


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  79. TomNickle says:

    Brian Boucher?

  80. mike g says:

    Correct, Tom!!

    So tell Halak and his 153 minutes to go f-himself.

    It means nothing, cuz in the end Brodeur and Roy are/will be better than Halak and Boucher.

    And you too OBSERVER, go you know where…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  81. Habfan29 says:

    who cares this is a habs site go over to the blues site “troll”

  82. RiverviewCanadien says:


    You’re right it means nothing, Brodeur and Roy are/will be better than Price as well n’est pas?

    You are one to talk, you cheer for the Flyers. Do they have a FIO site yet?

  83. SLONCOLD says:

    u really dislike halak lol he was our best player in the playoffs last year.

  84. mike g says:

    I don’t cheer for the Flyers you child..

    Habs are my team, and I follow Philly cuz of my favorite player Mike Richards.

    And you don’t see me here all day posting comments about him being better than Gomez, cuz I don’t spew shit onto this site.

    I watch Philly’s games when I can, and I shut my mouth.

    Now go drink milk from ur mom, ok.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  85. TomNickle says:

    I don’t dislike Halak, and I’m sick of having to qualify every piece of his play that I analyze.

    I look at the good and the bad, with everyone.  I can give you a rundown on what my scouting reports for every player on this roster would be if you like.  And there are flaws in all of them.

    Halak has been inconsistent throughout his career.

  86. TomNickle says:

    Haha…..last time I was at an adult entertainment venue a friend of mine spilled a drink on a fellow and I offered to buy his party a round.  He declined so I had the barmaid take him a glass of milk.

    Thanks for triggering the memory Mike.

  87. SLONCOLD says:

    so what’s your view on price’s play? i have to say his game has flaws and he’s a few “unlucky goals” from last year. he’s going down way to early and being caught deep in his net… a bunch of posts has helped him out. the overall numbers say he’s playin well but i really hope they r working on his game. good shooters will just wait for him to go down and not shoot at his pads.

  88. TomNickle says:

    I don’t think he’s been too deep in his net but I think he’s struggling at finding pucks through traffic.  Guessing far too often when he should be setting up in areas where the puck can potentially get through.  He leaves too many holes when hugging his posts too.

    Going down too early?  Meh.  I really don’t focus on that with him because he takes away so much of the net that it really doesn’t matter and being a tall goalie he’s better off going down a little early instead of a little late.  In the long run being down early leads to more saves than going down late does.


  89. boneheadslanger33 says:

    Watch your language please Grumpy, there are children that read this drivel

  90. SLONCOLD says:

    well you’re being fair. my issue with the going down early is being overcommited to the shot. it’s much easier to reposition while on your feet then while in butterfly with left/right pushes and displacements.

    i still have seen a great improvement in his ability to reading plays although like u said u don’t want to guess the play eaither ( ala fluery)

  91. TomNickle says:

    He has incredible strength from his knees and moves post to post with remarkable quickness.  I don’t think he’s overly committed to the shot when he goes down.  

  92. matraque says:

    He never asked for a trade per say…

    He said he wanted to be a no 1 goalie and wanted to play.

    It’s like you aren’t accepting the fact that he brought us to the final conference and stole tons of games during the playoffs


    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  93. Slovak says:

    For Tom…I will be around until you admit Halak is next Roy…:)

    “I was sitting in the first row last night and let me tell you that it was one of the best hockey games I’ve ever been to. Tight checking defense at its finest, neither team could penetrate the other’s system to generate a lot of good scoring chances all night. Even when they did the two goaltenders were there standing on their heads. Halak was perfect, there is no other word I could use to describe his play. Johnson wasn’t as good overall but still got the job done, he cannot be faulted for the OT winning goal.

    The Blues have something special going for them this year, their defensive system is brutal to play against and Halak is the real deal in net. Up front they have a great core of young players that generate tons of energy and bust their asses to make plays happen. Frankly I’m happy we got a point last night, there is no shame in losing in a battle of attrition when the other side is clicking in every way.”


  94. TomNickle says:

    That person has limited hockey experience Slovak.

    Like I said before, I watched that game as did many others here.  Exciting is something it was not.

    I’ll admit that Halak is as much of a team player that Roy was.  How’s that?

  95. TripleX says:

    I think Halak is a good goalie and has the potential to be very good and perhaps lead a team to the Cup.  I guess I have always appreciated the underdog who can overcome situations and maximize his abilities, through the shear strength of his mental toughness.  I like him and will always folllow his exploits and make no apologies for it.

    I think Price is a good goalie and has the unlimited physical gifts to be something very special.  I was a bit sour on Price because I perceived special treatment and a player who was a bit lazy and unappreciative of his gifts.  Having said that I  believe he has matured a great deal and will have a tremendous career.  If Price can harness his talents he can be one of the greats.

    I always said trading Halak and keeping Price was the smart move and that won’t change.  This is not as much a Halak vs Price thing, as some people make it out to be.

    oops major error….now corrected LOL


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  96. TomNickle says:

    His agent said more ice time or a trade.  That’s an ultimatum wherein the consequence is a refusal to play.

    Counterproductive to a team philosophy.  I don’t see Lars Eller, Benoit Pouliot, Dustin Boyd and Ryan O’Byrne having their agents request trades.

  97. Gil says:

    If he was perfect he wouldn’t have let in the OT goal…or any goal :P


  98. Bugs says:

    How about “management didn’t want Halak to be the num1 goalie despite outplaying their thoroughbred and so traded him for peanuts” end of story?

    Why can’t we do THAT end of story instead?

    …halak wanted out and that’s why he’s gone…


    That’s not why “he’s gone”, Tommy. Don’t take us for fools, please.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  99. TomNickle says:

    Ok Tony……I mean Bugs.

    So management wanted Halak gone before he requested a trade at this time last season?

    Take the hook out of your mouth.  Alan Walsh has you reeled in pretty well doesn’t he Bugs.

  100. TripleX says:


    That same agent is making similar comments with regards to Martin Havlat dude.  Why do you insist on stating it was Halak who got his agent to make the request?  So Havlat is a bad egg and should be traded as well?

    How do you know it was an ultimatum not to play?  That would be an unreasonable demand for a player under contract.  How do you know what any player requests of his agent?  That really is garbage and pure inflammatory speculation. 


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  101. SLONCOLD says:

    i’m sure u wished obyrne’s agent asked of a trade:-p

  102. TomNickle says:

    The player is the agents’ employer.

    That’s why.

  103. TomNickle says:

    Don’t have to wish for that one Mike, it’s coming anyway.


  104. TripleX says:

    Forget it Bugs.  Tom has the same emotions based and unreasonable hate on for Halak, that he accuses others as having for Price and Gomez.

    He has been stating as fact the same baseless claim that Halak demanded a trade since last season.  He thinks management traded Halak to do him a favour.  :)


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  105. Slovak says:

    Nice try but not enoug Tom :) By the way this comment is from Pens fan commenting Blues VS Pens game…

    Respect your knowledge about hockey, you are an intelligent person… and that is why there will be a moment when even you will admit “halak is a monster” – I mean Price is good but halak is something else…

    On another note – It is fun to watch habs offence – fast and smart are right words to describe it, I have great time watching them. Price is good but he is also a little lucky they are able to score more goals than oponents – habs VS Islanders is a prime example. I have strange feeling blues and habs will meet in playoffs…

  106. SLONCOLD says:

    the way i see it is the story was told to rue frontnac from gainey. Walsh made no direct mention to the public prior, although we all new what he was thinking.

    imo, the only was price got shipped out last year instead of halak is if the return on price was extremly high; like immediate impact player with a high draft pick.

  107. matraque says:

    I would be interested to read that somewhere… care to share that?


    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  108. G-Man says:

    No point spitting against the wind- all you end up with is a mess. Besides, with all that wind howling, I am not sure the one intended to hear will. Or that he will listen at all.

  109. notbigbird says:

    Halak-Gomez, Gomez-Halak

    Blah freaking blah.

    It really gets tired.

  110. Bugs says:

    You mean, “requested a trade in DECEMBER when he had a winning record but Price was STILL in net losing every game” this time last season?

    And forgetting the “NEVER requested a trade AFTER he was FINALLY given the num1 job he dutifully DESERVED and which management had been ROBBING him of” in January? A full 5 months of HEROICS before he was traded for peanuts in order to stake Carey at the job? That part doesn’t matter, right? No, it all boils down to “Halak wanted out and that’s why he’s gone”, right? Phew! Good thing we got rid of’m, eh? He never woulda given us his all, cuz he wanted out, yes? He hated it here. For no particular reason, he just hated it here. Especially after he was finally given num1 duties, boy, did he hate that.

    Please, Tommy. C’mon.



    And what’s with the suddenly trite and juvenile “Tony… I mean Bugs” bullspit? You’re better than that, Tommy, aren’t you? You’ve always played fair and square so far in our debates; so please don’t be like that. I get enough childish retorts from other posters as is. So, please, ok? Thanks.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  111. mike g says:

    Halak is next Roy?

    Ok seriously kid, what the f’uk are you saying? Do you even watch hockey, do you even know who Patrick Roy is and what he did in his career?

    4 Stanley Cups my friend, something Jaro and no other goalie in the next 20 year will do. With the salary cap and 30 teams, 1 goaltender will not win 4 Cups in his career.

    Remember how good Halak was last playoffs? Well, just to let you know if Roy was there we probably win the Cup, because Roy doesn’t fall apart in the Flyers series.

    Patrick Roy is a legend, arguably the best goalie ever. Be very careful how you throw around his name.

    Childish to have him and Halak in the same comparison. Childish…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  112. HardHabits says:

    You are simplifying things and it’s disingenious. The Habs got more than peanuts. I supposed Halak was worth Kopitar or Crosby or Malkin, maybe Carter or Richards. Get real. Sometimes you come off as an intellectual simpleton.

    The Halak trade got the Habs Eller and Schultz. Eller is still young and raw but he’s looking like he can moulded into being a very good centre for the Habs, definitely top 6. The Habs got a 1st and a 3rd pick for a 9th pick. And they have the best once a goalie prospect now a young netminder in the league. Your colourful banter is fluff. No substance.

    The only time you actually come up with a half decent argument is when your are defending French.


  113. Say Ash says:

    Well said. I’d add that Roy is the only three-time Conn Smythe winner. That’s three more than Brodeur, who’s considered the greatest goalie by crazy people.

  114. mike g says:

    Yup, nice addition to my argument….

    Though I think it shows just how bright this fella is when we have to explain to someone why they shouldn’t compare a HOF legend to….Halak.

    But anyways…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  115. Slovak says:

    Well we will see… but you know what – on the begining of everything what turned to be extraordinary, there were some people saying: it is impossible, it is childis to think it, it will never happen, there are too many obstacles etc. I simply believe we see that extraordinary begining based on my subjective observations of Jaro´s play…

    PS: I did put a smile beind the sentence about Roy in my first post… of course Roy is only one…

  116. SeriousFan09 says:

    You’re referencing Bleacher Report? Do you have any idea how many plagarists and absolute homers write those articles? It’s not a professional site by any means, I can be a contributor tommorow without any creentials.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  117. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Just to start an argument with Mike G. Yes I guess that is trolling, but hey, it is on the site day-in and day-out. I think Boone even does it since he posted the stats of Halak.


    I don’t cheer for the Flyers you child..

    Habs are my team, and I follow Philly cuz of my favorite player Mike Richards.

    And you don’t see me here all day posting comments about him being better than Gomez, cuz I don’t spew shit onto this site.

    I watch Philly’s games when I can, and I shut my mouth.

    Now go drink milk from ur mom, ok.

    I thought everyone knows that the Flyers are your 2nd team, and seriously how old are you?

    Anyways show me where I have said Halak is better than Price

    The problem I have is that because Halak is some people’s fav player, they are crucified for it on this site, or for even mentioning his name (they are told to go to the St.Louis page and cheer), maybe that is because Jaro is doing great and people are still afraid he will have better stats than Price? I don’t know and I don’t care, because Price is playing great and the team is winning.

    But seems you are allowed to have Richards as your fav and are not ridiculed for it, why is that? Maybe you should go to the Flyers forums? Make sense?

  118. HFX-HabFan says:

    It would have been hard to ask St. Louis to give us Brassard, considering he plays for the Blue Jackets.

  119. mike g says:

    No it doesn’t make sense…

    95% of the time people post something including “Halak” in it, it’s either to troll or to fuel an argument. It’s a topic of converstaion that never ends well, and all it does is create pages and pages of garbage on HIO.

    This place is a great site. There’s no need to always have to read about how Jaro this and Jaro that. If people wanna bring it up occasionally, fine. Everything in moderation is and should be accepted…

    But that’s not the case right now. People on this site have a privilege, and they abuse it. Were allowed to post for free, and write wtv we want. And because of that, everything involving Jaro wastes pages of our time.

    And notice how I’ll never bring up my favorite player or the Flyers. Never, unless someone is talking about a Flyers issue already or about our series with them last year. Why?, well because I know that you guys would rather talk about the Habs cuz that’s who we really love deep down inside. There’s no need for me to come here and say that their whole team is better than Gomez, and that Richards is gonna smash this and that. Nope.

    I’d rather talk about Pleks, Price, Cammy, or whoever. But it’s enough with the useless Jaro talk. We know he’s good, we know. No need to keep on bringing him up.

    If this site would’ve existed when we traded Roy, would we have posted comments about Patrick winning 80% of his starts with the Avalanche, and 2 Stanley Cups?

    I don’t think so.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  120. Bugs says:

    Eller might be “looking like he can moulded into being a very good centre for the Habs” but Halak is an NHL num1 NOW. So that “in the future” doesnt mean doodly-squat no matter how you wanna interpret it. Two or four or 18 bathplugs doesn’t equal an all-world NHL num1 goalie, whether an “intellectual simpleton” (oxymoron there) says it or not.

    Why couldn’t we ask for Brassard or one of their REAL defensive “prospects” instead of a kid we never heard of 4 months ago? “Whoa, hey, whoa, Halak isn’t as good as Derrick Brassard?” Bullspit. There’s your “fluff” right there. Eller equal value for Halak…please.

    When we traded Roy, we shoulda asked for equal value THEN too and asked for Sakic. But hey, Rucinsky sure “moulded himself into being a very good palyer for the Habs” though, no? And that’s what counts the most.

    Another fair deal that one too then?

    We got peanuts in the Halak trade because we didn’t want to haggle; we just wanted to give the num1 spot to Price. Eller, Shmoe, or Billy Cotton-picker wouldn’t’ve made no difference.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  121. Bugs says:

    Sorry, I meant David Perron.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  122. HFX-HabFan says:

    Eller was one of the best rookies in the AHL last season (not to mention a first-rounder in ’07 and along with Boedker the finest offensive prospect to come out of Denmark); if you hadn’t heard of him before last season, that’s your own fault.

  123. rocketsglare says:

    It’s O.K. to be a Halak fan but not on March 10th of next year when the Habs play the Blues in

    St. Louis. Then all fans should wish for a blow out win. Go Price!


    Go Habs Go!

  124. PrimeTime says:

    News Flash: “Critics Criticize”….WOW, what a revelation!! It’s who they are and what they do so. For as long as this site exist we will continue the banter of what does not make the Habs the perfect model team for all eternity to bow and grace it’s genius. For the most part, the banter is friendly with each side repeatedly and redundantly argueing their points. Fortunately for all site visitors and Boone, the Habs nor any other team, player, coach, or gm ever be perfect in everyone’s perspective. Some just enjoy to remind the others of weaknesses and then enjoy defending their points of criticism. Nobody is right or wrong until the fat lady sings…..and even then the infinite differences of opinion continue. Even the Trolls who are treated as univited guests to the deal make this this site an enjoyable ongoing discussion about out beloved team. 

    Boone’s last ALN piece pretty much nailed the identity of this team….fast and smart. It is what the architects envisioned when forming this group. Other architects like Burke and Lou have different design ideas. Fans too have different likes and dislikes of what the their team identity should be. But only time will determine the outcome. Today, this team is exciting and entertaining to watch with as many sub-lines as the critics and trolls offer. We are a forunate bunch!


    Go Habs Go! 

  125. Propwash says:

    Hopefully it won’t be a repeat of last year when Price fell into a funk after sitting out a game at the beginning of the season.


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  126. krob1000 says:

    I am a huuuge believer the gomer deal was terrible…that being said he does do many good things away from the puck, he takes away lanes, heis speed is dangerous on the forecheck, he is postiionally super sound…..Pleks is all of those and more thuogh…but the point is guys can help inother ways.  Subban, I believe is far more valuable then his oofense as his speed makes him virtaully unbeatable to the outside, he is trong enough to not let beat inside, he is smart and takes away space.  His blunders witht he biscuit are far outweighed by the postivies with it and without it.  I think sometimes people focus too much on points and “production”…bt an average NHL player has the puck for less than a minute a game…..so well over 90 percent of their game is played away from the puck…..this is crucial to understand how important smarts are.  Poeple need to understand how they can influence the play without a puck…taking away a lane, steering a guy to one side or into a trap, screening,picking, pressuring, switching for someone out of position,etc…..  http://www.smarthockey.com/philosophy.php

    At the same time there is a ton that can be done with a puck….faking like Cammi did to create his own shot, shoulder fakes, look aways, changing the position of your stick, carrying it in a triple threat position (pass, shoot or make a move….this is where Gomez fails BTW…he stickhandles side to side in front meaning he can only go left or right…BIG DIFFERENCE between he and Pleks.  If Gomez were to make that adjustment and keep the threat of a shot in play he would be a serious weapon …like Pleks is)  the angle of your shot or pass, zone entry, puck possesion, passing it to a space your other player may not be aware he is going ..but you put the puck there and away they go….so much that is not accounted for in goals and assists. Does Gomez help our team…you are damn right..unfortunately his cap hit is waay out for whack…but the guy can play and despite that twice a game pass into nowhere he still makes us better…now there are other players of les value who could do the same…100 percent true but when arguing aboutt he Scott Gomez deal or evaluating any player for that matter…it is imperative to look at mre than g’s and a’s.

    Gomez can play and the contract for the 20 millionth time is not his fault…he isn;t going to become better because someone paid him more….he is what he is…and he helps in other ways…he is overpaid but that isn’tgoing to change…so as long as people honestly assess both sides …then fine.  Dn;t attack Gomez …attack the move that brought him here…which to open another can of worms is ..partly responsible for the Jaro trade as well and us bringing in Eller…..if you don;t think him being a Center with size with top 6 potential and his cap affordability were huge factors….Anyway..I like Scott Gomez…his name unfortunately is asscoiated with cap dollars and tehy are super important but Scott Gomez is one heck of a hockey player…taht much is true no matter what he makes…..first , line, second line, third line, who cares…his contract is here now…I’ve accepted it….so it is possible …he does brings many, many positives that aren;t measurable on a scoresheet. 

  127. Everlasting1 says:

    You like A Flyer who isn’t an ex-Hab?? A good ole fashion draconian beheading among a throng of hab fans looking on is in order hehe.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  128. Timo says:

    Chantal has been traded for Christie Brinkley. Who won the trade? Discuss.

  129. matraque says:

    We have to admit…. Halak is playing amazing these days and he’s for real… Price is for real too so far (BIG RELIEF).  So at the end of the day… Habs would be at the same spot with either goalie at this point of the season.

    To bad… PG could have worked just a little harder, we could have got a lot more for Halak IMO.  So far, i’m not that convinced about Eller… All i see is hype.


    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard

  130. HardHabits says:

    I agree. There’s some great material here not just insight!!!

  131. joeybarrie says:

    Posts like this is what I have a problem with……..

    You’re right on both counts.

    How some fans, who claim they watch the games, try to defend Gomez’ play is beyond me…

    game he’s just going through the motions.  Doing his own thing. 
    Terribly frustrating because you know he has more talent than that.

    his salary way over his capabilities? Absolutely.  However, least
    season he barely played like a forward worthy of $5 million, nevermind
    $8 million.  This year? He’s playing like someone who should be a
    healthy scratch. 

    Gomez and Pleks should have their salaries switched because Pleks play could more easily justify the $7.3 million cap hit.”

    Gomez had 14 pts in the playoffs. Pleks had 11. Gomez had 90% of his points in games we WON. Gomez had more ice time.

    Gomez is just going through the motions???? Then why does his line mate have the most shots on the team? Turnovers???? JUST PLAIN DUMB… You think a guy responsible for over 1/5 of our goals is BARELY worth 5 million?

    I don’t know about you, but the guy who has the most ice time in the playoffs, and the team goes to the Conf Finals, MIGHT BE A VALUABLE GUY….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  132. matraque says:

    You want Higgins back?




    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  133. TomNickle says:

    But Joey, he’s overpaid.  He’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid, he’s overpaid.

    And……he’s overpaid.

  134. TomNickle says:

    You want insight?  I think Halpern was signed to give Cammalleri a Jewish companion on the team.

    Considering that both have bounced around a fair bit and that Cammy had a bit of a locker room pain in the butt label it wouldn’t shock me.

  135. HardHabits says:

    No, no, no. The Habs could’ve entered the Kovalchuck sweepstakes if Gomez wasn’t on the books. Or maybe signed Gaborik.

  136. TomNickle says:

    Who needs Subban, Weber, Leblanc and a 1st rounder next year anyway?

    I would’ve done that deal in a heartbeat.


  137. fbkj says:

    true, look at what chicago got for niemi

  138. HardHabits says:

    One enigmatic Russian experiment wasn’t enough.

    The Kovalchuck contract looks like the Yashin contract resurrected.

  139. TomNickle says:

    Lecavalier too.  We should have given up Gorges, Subban, Price and Plekanec for Lecavalier.  That would’ve worked out well too.

    Oh, and Hossa……..and Briere………and Pronger.

    Yeah, they have no clue what they’re doing in the office.

  140. krob1000 says:

    Last year is last year….if that is the case then you are setting up the why trade Jaro, why let moore go, why let metro go,etc.  If you try to use stats to justify Gomez you then you have to consider his salary…and it is nearly impossible as he is overpaid, overpaid,overpaid (for you Tom).  Stay away from the stats Joey….focus on the positives he brings, leave the slaary out because it can;t be justified ina cap world….however, management has miraculously gone and built a team despite the restrictions and Gomez is a key component…approach it from that angle and most if not all can agree…..try to use Gomez stats  or compare him to Pleks…whom I am sure even Gomez would conced is a more complete player right now and you are not going to win. Gomez does a ton of great things…..I have laerned to accept the deal given the other moves management has made…part of a plan? who knows…but they have changed the culture around here, they are showing sings of success and most importantly they have FOR THE MOST APRT…worked around Gomez’ deal for now. 

    In the future there may still be adverse affects but for now…the contract has become as acceptable from an organizational standpoint  as it could possibly ever be….but there is noone out there who can actually say that given todays cap, that Scott Gomez, despite teh wonderfult hings he does….is worth that money…he just isn’t…..but that doesn’t matter as much right now…it sure as hell did at the time but we never expected Subban to be this good, we never expected to get an Eller, we never expected the kids to improve, we never expected at the time for PLeks to sontinue to grow as a player…and grow he has.  the move itself…..horrid….the teams results since then…stellar….does the Gomez move deserve the credit eitehr way…not really as it is a team sport and that move was just one of many…..when isolated I tend to think it sucks donkey arse….but now seeing the whole recreation of the squad…I am qutie impressed so I just accept it as a cost of doing sbusiness….the business of rebuilding the team on the fly…and that job has been rather well done…better than I thought possible on June 30th.

  141. Storm Man says:

    Bertrand Raymond says no deal, Brinkley is not french.

  142. TomNickle says:

    Acquiring Gomez was a stop gap measure.  No fluke that they selected Leblanc less than a week before trading for him.


  143. LA Loyalist says:

    Roy is unique, no one is arguing that and that horrific trade has cursed us to this very day. I can still see him chewing out Ron Corey in front of my eyes like it was 5 minutes ago.

    But to say that Halak “fell apart” in the Philly Series is right out of the PriceBot(tm) handbook from last summer page 13. (I bought one on EBay).

    There are 3 main reasons we lost to Philly.

    1. Everyone was just gassed from 2 brutal 7 game series, that’s at least 2/3 of the reason, and we were not a deep team (and still aren’t).

    2. Halak was getting run and screened by large tough Philly players who actually know where the net is, unlike most (not all) of our forwards who think “net” is what you have left after Quebec taxes (did you know Gomez is “zemoG” spelled backwards?)

    3. No Markov, and no Rick Green/Larry Robinson type who would leave anyone who messed with our goalie up against the boards like an extra coat of paint wondering what hit them.

    Certainly Price has an advantage in games like that as he is bigger and possibly crankier, but to say Halak “fall apart” is utterly inaccurate.

    As to how Halak will do, well, he’s just run 2 shut outs in a row, so you might want to actually let the cards get dealt before you make your bets.

    As for the Habs, we are doing pretty well, beating the teams we have to beat. But the Islanders in October are not the Phlyers in April, we are still too small and too soft to play a team like Philly and beat them 4 times out of 7.

    And there’s no reason to insult the guy for having an opinion. You wouldn’t like it, would you?


    “Preparez vos mouchoirs”


  144. LA Loyalist says:

    The reason Price/Halak will continue to be a topic even if Price does great, is that the better Halak does the more we will scrutinize Eller, for whom he was traded.

    And obviously that won’t be answered for a while yet.

    So settle in for a long winter’s night :) watching hockey! That’s what we waited all summer for, right?

  145. krob1000 says:

    Hossa…would still love to have him…and at the time of that deal…i think it would have bought us a trip to the finals…I am 99 percent convinced tf that…and Gasiney was too….he thought he made the deal but Mario wouldn’t get off the phone with Waddell so Waddell had no choice at that point…..Hossa I would have done. Vinny…at the time nobody could have predicted Gorges would be waht he is, Pleks was struggling statistically but was doing everything else great,and Subban was a wildcard…..Price was never part of it as far as I new…if no cap restrictions…at the time I probably would have done it…..but with his cap hit/injuryies starting it was too much but management still tried to make a deal of some sort.  Pronger is a beast….and is IMO in NHL playoff play as sure thing as there is …he alone is good for 2 or 3 playoff wins IMO…he is a beast…..a ferocious, gigantic, smart, dirty beast…..Briere…..also beat us.  The only guy on that list that didn’t make it further than our teams is Vinny….Briere has beat us out twice, Pronger last year, Hossa has been in the finals 3 years running…..

  146. TripleX says:

    You stated that Gomez earns his salary since he AVERAGES 73 points a season.  In 10 NHL seasons he has had THREE seasons at 73 points or better.  Just saying.

    If Gomez EVER scores 73 pts. in Montreal I would be ecstatic.


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  147. habfan53 says:

    This is the first and LAST time i hope to get into the Halak vs Price issue . What I will try to do is put into a little perspective of one recent case and one from a time long ago.

    First case:  During the 1996-97 season Montreal played 5 goaltenders They traded the one with only 20 minutes experience they kept: Jose Theodore, Pat Jablonski, Pierre Sevigny and Jocelyn Thibeault.  The next year we had Theodore, Thibeault and Andy Moog.     The goalie let go    Tomas Vokoun

    Second case: During the 69-70 season Montreal has just come off their 4 th straight Stanley Cup win they have 2 holdovers in net Vachon and Worsley and a young rookie . MONTREAL misses the playoffs and lose the rookie goalie and I mean LOSE they got NOTHING in return, the goalie was Tony Esposito and the General Manager was SAM POLLOCK arguably the best G.M. ever  Bye the way they kept Phil Myre over Espo as well.

    Would Montreal have dominated the late ’70’s with Esposito instead of Dryden  maybe

    All I’m saying is that  you don’t know until everything is written.

  148. TomNickle says:

    I agree with Hossa.  Great player.  Finally showed up in the playoffs.

    I wouldn’t do a deal for any of the others.  Brad Richards I would pull the trigger on too and I’m on record saying the only way the Gomez deal is bad is if we could’ve had Brad Richards instead.

    Higgins is simply a bum, Valentenko won’t make it and McDonagh could be David Fischer.

    If we had given up picks, I would have a problem.  Sather got hosed.  I’d much rather have Gomez than Drury.


  149. habfan53 says:

    Sorry you got it wrong    it WAS Rejean Tremblay that said no deal because she was’nt French

  150. CanadienBoy says:

    Hossa is hurt again ,Plek. is just coming on i am glad we did not trade him for keep braking Hossa. 

  151. Storm Man says:

    Same family tree.

  152. krob1000 says:

    Hossa since that trade has been to three finals in a row with 3 diff’t teams…..so not sure a 2 week injury means that much….but ok. Hossa has endured 3 straight seasons with 4 rounds of playoffs….pretty impressive bud

  153. OverseasFan says:

    The word “Halak” has been used 34 times on this comments page — and I’m just looking at one page out of 5 on this thread.

    We all miss him, but he’s gone already. Let him go.

    Being here is like listening to some boy whine about a hot ex-girlfriend who’s left him!

    Forget Halak for now. How about discussing Price? Or even Auld — you know, the guy who will be in the net for us tonight?

    Go Habs go!

  154. TomNickle says:

    I don’t miss him.  He wanted out, so he’s gone.  End of story.

  155. SmartDog says:

    In my survey below, the majority of people said they don’t see the loss of Lats, Dags, Moore, and the aquisition of Gomer a blunder.  (Among those that see  blunders here Gomer and Lats lead.)  While I don’t agree, it’s good that many people see the glass as half full becuase you need to be honest, but you also need to be positive.

    So one more POSITIVE question for Mike G….

    1. What are the most POSITIVE moves the Habs have made (people, coaching, whatever) in the last year or two?


    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  156. punkster says:

    1. Signed Gomez

    2. Signed Gionta

    3. Signed Cammallari

    4. Hired Martin

    5. Re-signed Plekanec

  157. SlovakHab says:

    1. re-signed Tomas Plekanec

    2. drastically improved the team: Kovalev, Tanguay and Koivu for Cammalleri, Gionta and Gomez. Halpern for Metropolit. Boyd for Sergei. 

    3. kept the right goalie and obtained not one but two excellent young player for the other goalie

    4. has always been classy and never coplained about the refereeing or other things

    5. improved the team in general. it plays well in defense as well as offense. beauty to watch. the coaching isn’t as bad as it looked the last year. seems like it all has had its direction

  158. mike g says:

    What’s up, dog…

    Positive moves:

    - Letting Guy Boucher go: Now don’t read this the wrong way. I’m not saying he’s a bad coach, he’s probably a good one. All I know is that when he came to Hamilton last year, the Habs made a judgemental mistake. Maybe there was a misunderstanding between his expectations and management, I don’t know. Maybe he used the Habs as a stepping stone to the NHL, I don’t know. All I know is that when you sign a veteran coach to a 4 year deal and bring a highly touted coach like Boucher onto the farm, your goal is to groom him slowly and bring him up. I guess he was ready earlier, or took an offer that was too hard to pass up. All I know is allowing him to pursue  his career in Tampa was a good move for Boucher, and the Habs showed class by doing this. Also, there was no way they’d fire Martin and bring him in already, following our performances last year. Good move for both parties. Keeping Boucher locked up in Hamilton wouldn’t have made him a better coach, so that was a smart/nice move by the Habs.

    - Signing Pleks: I was worried it would be too much money, but so far he’s proving he’s worth that and some. The Habs obviously took their time to get to know every inch of him, on and off the ice. And they made a great move by keeping him. If Pleks was 3 inches taller, he’d be everyone’s favorite player.

    - Keeping Kirk Muller: It’s not because I don’t like JM, but man am I ever anxious to see Kirk hopefully as head coach of this team one day. What a model that guy is. Shows emotion when needed. Love it.

    - Being Patient: The same way this management group evaluated Pleks, they did the same with Price. They saw a bright light at the end of the tunnel, and didn’t step on the gaz too much. Time and patience is what has made Price the goalie we see today compared to the past 2 years. Same goes for Markov, there was no need to re-sign him last summer. Wait it out, watch how he plays this year and responds to the injuries, and then pitch a deal forward. Also getting Halpern was a nice move over Moore at 2 mill per year. Halpern was a little cheaper, is a right handed shot, and great on faceoffs. Also, he’s got a great attitude in interviews and you can tell he’s a smart veteran and respected by the players in the room.

    - Throwing SK in the garbage: no explanation needed.

    -Trading Halak: Same as Guy Boucher. H was ready for a full time load, and the Habs were confident in Price being able to do so also. They probably said they’d rather spend the money on Pleks and Price over Halak and someone else. People forget Josh Georges is due for a raise this year, and AK’s looking like a 30+ goal scorer. Guys in that category get 5 mill, so the Habs must have planned to have additional cap space for this by trading Halak.

    - The Molsons: I think it’s really important to have owners who care about each and every aspect of this franchise. I’m not talking about taking control of everything and going on a power trip. But being able to offer the best product and services, because deep down inside they know how imporatnt it is to us.

    There are so many more, maybe even more important, but I’m not behind the scenes so maybe I missed some. Maybe a deal was gonna be done, or a signing of a certain player and it didn’t get done. Sometimes the moves you don’t make are the best ones. So yea….


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  159. Rugger says:


    1. Pleks

    2. Martin

    3. PG (I know I will hear it on this one!)

  160. Sakus Evil Twin says:

    When Scott Gomez was a free agent – I was one of the folks that hoped that Gainey would sign him… He opted for the big money in NY and who can blame him for that… I doubt there is a player in the cosmos who would look at that contract and  objectively say “Oh no – I’m not worth that – offer me less. Surely my team’s salary cap will be knackered”.

    As much as most don’t want to understand it, a player is not his contract… the contract is owned by the team that signed it and the player is signed to do what he does… He doesn’t become a 150 point scorer based on what a GM thinks he’s worth.

    I think that Gomez has been pretty solid defensive zone through neutral zone, and something seems to inhibit his play once he crosses the blue line. He is a guy who needs options, and it’s fair to say that his options have not been great.

    He could definately take a look at Pleks and follow his lead, as I think they both have some of the same attributes: – be more direct, take the quick shot when he has the opportunity, be patient… blah blah blah… and he’s gone on record stating that he’ll do just that…

    As Ian says below, he showed up at the right times, and I think that still rings true… he’s involved in every game… and he is still skating well… I’m not worried (yet) about the points…

    Alex Auld? *shudder*

    No answers, just opinions. Bite me. Och.

  161. pic1983 says:

    Clearly me and you arent watching the same hockey team.  Ive barely noticed Scott Gomez for the whole season.  Now, barely noticing a player isnt a bad thing when they are say…a defensive defenseman, but when you dont notice a big-money, top-line forward, thats not exactly encouraging.  Every time I have noticed him, it’s been for the wrong reason. 

    This guy needs to get his s**t together, because to me, every game he looks like he’s just going through the motions.

  162. HardHabits says:

    The HIO Jaroslav Halak fan-club 10 Commandments:

    1) I am Halak, your Goalie, who brought you to the land of the Eastern Conference Finals; do not have any other Goalies before me.
    2) You shall not make for yourself an idol of Carie Price, whether in the form of anything that is a bobble-head, or a hockey card, or a bookmarked web-page.
    3) You shall not recognize his wins or brilliant saves; for I Halak your Goalie am a jealous Goalie.
    4) You shall continue to make use of the name of the Halak your Goalie, for the Halak will not acquit anyone who misses a chance to mention his name.
    5) Remember the day of June 17th, 2010 and keep it holy.
    6) For six years you shall moan and complain.
    7) And if by the seventh year Halak, your Goalie hasn’t won the Cup; you shall not have any parades, your sons and your daughters shall still be Habs fans though.
    8) Honor Guy Boucher and Brian Burke so that you may join with the rest of the Habs haters and trolls in the worship of Halak your Goalie.
    9) You shall not bear true witness in favour of Carie Price.
    10) You shall not covet Carie Price even if he wins a Cup before Halak, your Goalie.

  163. SmartDog says:

    Yeah, whatever.

    Can we still hang with loose wome and covet our neighbours swimming pool?

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  164. TomNickle says:

    Well done.

    A Habs v. Blues Stanley Cup Finals sure would be interesting.

    Some people around here would surely show their true colours.

  165. avatar_58 says:

    You know what I hope F’ing happens when the habs play the blues? Price gets a 50 shot shutout and Halak lets in 5 goals on 5 shots getting pulled in the 1st period.

    THEN this shit will stop. (and by this I don’t mean you, but the idgits who follow the commandments ;) )

  166. Matt_in_TO says:

    Gotta say, that’s PRICEless.


    - In Price We Trust

  167. Slovak says:

    “Halak was terrific Thursday in notching his second shutout in a row turning aside all 24 Nashville shots he faced. The stoic Slovak was especially strong through the first half of the game when he stoned Patric Hornqvist, the Predators’ scoring leader last season, on a breakaway.

    Halak has now beaten in succession the past two Stanley Cup champs (Chicago and Pittsburgh) and the last team without a regulation loss. Through his past three games, Halak has stopped 78 of 80 shots he’s faced.

    “He’s such a fun goalie to watch. It looks like he’s not even trying he’s so effortless. I mean all his motions, there’s no wasted energy with him. We feel so confident with him back there he’s so cool, calm and collected,” Johnson said.

    “He’s been a great, great asset for us,” he said.”


  168. observer says:

    Commandment #1



    Thou shalt never use the name Halak in vain.

  169. formerexpo says:

    I didn’t read all the posts, so I apologize if someone pointed this out but in the Islanders commercial, right around the 17 second mark. Is it just me or did they not promote a head shot by Brendan Witt that the league is trying to crack down on? Good marketing!

  170. Say Ash says:

    Was that Jagr?

  171. HardHabits says:

    Good catch. The hypocrisy is dumbfounding.

  172. otter649 says:

    Also had MAB in the commerical – I believe……..

  173. JD_ says:

    Watched a clip of Claude Julien after his Broonz squashed the Loafs last night, like the skitterin’ little douchebugs that they are. He was commentin’ on the absolutely hilarious way the Broonz fans were chantin’ “Thank you Kessel!” over and over after Seguin popped one.

    Julien noted that the Broonz have really great fans who support the players that are there and taunt the ones who were once there but are now gone.

    I had to laugh at the fact that hard-core hockey fans are all cut of the same cloth. Yeah, Philly has a heavy penchant for knuckle-draggin’ and T.O.’s more interested in the chicken wings and nachos but, at the end of the day, most if not all pull the same crap when the ex-pats come to town.

    Even better, as when Hab fans blitzkrieg the Nassau Bell Centre Coliseum, the show goes on the road. The Cirque du Soleil‘s got nothin’ on us, biznatches.

    Speakin’ of coaches, Ron Wilson had the followin’ to say prior to last night’s drubbin’, “Well Phil Kessel’s got seven goals, Tyler’s [Seguin] got what, one?” Ron’s math is bang on. Havin’ said that, I dunno, but I gotta feelin’ the numbers are gonna become a whole heck of a lot more challengin’ in, say, just about a year from now, you know, when Nugent-Hopkins/Couturier/Saad/Landeskog/Puempel starts lightin’ it up in the big leagues, for some team other than the Mopey Loafs. And then there’s the year after that, and then the followin’ year, etc…

  174. lavie says:

    Be patient with G-G line. We have all witnessed their colors early this year.

  175. Matt_in_TO says:

    That is a great article on Geoff Molson.  It’s nice to see that the team is in great hands and that we have ownership that cares and wants to win unlike a certain teacher’s pension plan.


    - In Price We Trust

  176. Bugs says:

    The Nova Scotia teacher’s Plan?

    Listen, I hear they’ve been goin through some little difficulties, but they want their enterprise to succeed just like anyone else’s. I don’t even know if they’re invested in hockey in any capacity either, sooo, what’s the point?

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  177. SmartDog says:

    You’re putting Gomez first to taunt me. :P

    It’s okay… taunt away.  To many, it takes away from the crediblity of your list though. :)

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  178. HardHabits says:

    I agree but it is traded for Gomez.

    I’ll also add traded for Eller.

  179. punkster says:

    No, not to taunt. Read what I said below.

    Let’s stop pussyfooting around with the Gs. Fire them. Sit them in the press box for the remainder of the season. No demotions to lower lines, no demotions to Hamilton and the waiver issue crap, no trades because NOBODY waould ever pick up their useless contracts. Just press box them.

    Because that’s where you’re heading with this whole anti-G thing (whether it’s your ongoing Gomez or your about-to-be-newfound-anti-Gionta campaign). You’re head is stuck in the same close-minded mode with Gomez and you won’t be shifted. So press box him and his little friend.

    Now, who do you call up as replacements? Who do you bring in who will keep us in first, or at least top 5, place? Cause you can’t trade them, right?

    Who SD? Who?

  180. observer says:

    why stop using price while he’s hot and team is winning? another dumb move of gauthier.

  181. Storm Man says:

    The coach made that call.

  182. HardHabits says:

    Ah Tony. Where’ve you been?

    First of all its Martin’s decision.

    Secondly the Habs play tomorrow night. Even your boy Halak has had a few games rest.

  183. Bugs says:

    Who the heck is feeding this thing?

    It’s gettin huuuge!

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  184. avatar_58 says:

    What do you care your team isn’t even playing tonight?

  185. punkster says:

    Missed you man. Hey, wade in on the Gomez discussion with SD will ya? We need a rational observation there.

  186. Ian Cobb says:

    Its not the GM,s call. Coaches move. And a good one at that.!

  187. SmartDog says:

    This is what KILLS ME!!!!!  That the people on here who think Gomer is great are watching the SAME GUY THAT I AM. I don’t get it!  He’s barely visible…. sometimes I cound how many bad plays he makes in a row and it’s easy to get to 3 or 4.  Gains the zone, loses the puck, gains the zone, passes to someone in a crowd, lost puck, tries to gain the zone, oops, doesn’t get in.  The guy REALLY SUCKS!!! 

    When I watch Gomez I see a guy who’s playing pond hockey.  He flies around and you don’t want to drive to the net because you might hurt someone and it’s just for fun anyway.  He plays his winding game no matter how unsuccessful it is.  Why Martin doesn’t bench the guy kills me just as much.  GGGGRRRRRRRRRRRR….  and another thing!!!  LOL

    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  188. TomNickle says:

    I have not seen a single post since the start of the season from a person saying that Gomez is playing great or even good hockey right now.

    If there is one, please show it to me.

    You don’t need to fabricate opinions to make your point.

  189. punkster says:

    Now you’re stretching.

    I’m withholding all cookies until this discussion calms down ;)

  190. G-Man says:

    You are like my friend who only see the negatives of a player, so it’s fair to say you are biased against his contract. Everyone around here says to shut up about Price and Halak and it’s time we shut up about Gomez’s contract. If you were offered a raise that was that great, you would say no?

  191. joeybarrie says:

    What kills me is that PEOPLE DONT GET IT… Was he invisible during our best playoff run since 1993 ???

    Was he invisible while getting the most assists on our team last season when we made the Playoffs with HUGE injuries?

    Was he invisible while playing with GIONTA to his best 3 seasons ever?

    Bench a guy who makes the most passes on our team to a guy who has the most shots on our team??? I mean isnt that just plain dumb?

    Bench a guy who successfully brings the puck out of our own zone, and into the opposition. Tough for a team to score when Gomez has the puck in your own zone.

    I would be happy with a guy who set up a game winning goal, and scored one of his own. Responsible for 4 of our points and one third of our wins.

    ——–GOOD POST—————

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  192. TomNickle says:

    You can quote ESPN all you want but I watched the first 55 minutes of that game and your saviour only had two scoring chances on him in that time period and both came in the first period.

    I thought you were done here?

  193. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Yes yes yes, the almighty “Weak saves” excuse.

    I am very happy with Price and confident thus far, but come on already, every save Price makes is not INCREDIBLE and every goal that goes in, is not UNSTOPPABLE!

    EDIT: btw, you did tune in to watch the first 55 minutes of that game, why? There were other games being played….LOL

  194. Storm Man says:

    Like most cockroach’s he can live without his head.

  195. TomNickle says:

    I wanted to see Nashville and how brother Sergei looked and I never miss the chance to watch Shea Weber.

    Not week saves.  Week shots that my dog could’ve stopped with no equipment on…..how’s that?

  196. SLONCOLD says:

    i watched the game and thoguht his positioning was very solid. preds do have offensive issues though.

  197. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Man, Halak is doing great so far (but hey I knew he was going to be a.o.k), what a team the Blues are becoming. That was just to piss of the Price lovers. Some people really need to chill out because someone is a fan of a hockey player that does NOT play for the Canadiens.!

    Habs are just fine, Price is doing great himself this year, a very happy time to be a Hab.


  198. shiram says:

    Hey i wish Halak all the success in the world, unless he’s facing off against the Habs…
    I mean here is a player that we formed in our organization, and that now thrives, so that reflects positively on the Habs.

  199. 23 HABS 23 says:

    Yes, Halak is doing well … the team in front of him helps (’cause they can score on a regular basis) but it has also been the soft schedule the Blues have that has helped Halak out.  He should be sharp and getting shut outs with 4 days rest between games … I am interested to see how he will do when he has 4 games in a 7 day stretch – then Halak’s weakness will be exposed – he can not handle a heavy workload (and I am not talking about facing 40+ shots – I know he can do that – I watched the playoffs last year).  Anyway, here’s hoping Auld has a great game against the Islanders tonight!


    GO HABS GO! (Let’s go get that elusive 25th Stanley Cup!)

  200. rocketsglare says:

    It will be curious how this team will respond to Auld in net given that their is a belief that this

    team plays well for one goaltender over another ( of course I am making a joke). But seriously,

    the team will adapt to Auld in net and play well because the trend out of the gate so far is solid

    team play and regardless of who is in net will benefit. Auld will do well and Carey deserves after

    9 consecutive starts a well deserved rest. Good to see this team in 1st place.


    Go Habs Go!

  201. observer says:

    i remember when sports used to be played by real men. a pitcher pitched 9 innings and a nhl hockey goalie played every single regular season game.

  202. HardHabits says:

    They play more than 50 games a year now old-timer. Look at Brodeur. He’s one of a few who played most games a year. The other is Hasek. I guess you forget when Roy and Hayward owned the Jennings trophy for 3 years straight. Best Habs team since the 70’s right there.

    Today’s athletes are ten times in better shape than your old-timers and the game is faster today. Take another nap or sit on the bowl for a few hours trying to push that little pebble out because the pressure is getting to your head.

  203. Storm Man says:

    Having flashbacks are you? Next time say no to LSD.

  204. shiram says:

    The seasons we’re shorter back then as well, the game was slower too.
    So the game changed, and now you have to rotate some players to keep them in top shape.

    And it would be interesting to see you go up to Price, and tell him he’s not a real man…

  205. otter649 says:

    And when was the last time a NHL hockey goalie played every single regular season game ?

  206. Ian Cobb says:

    Habs play tonight my friend.

  207. Ian Cobb says:

    Now it is plated by smarter men. Keep everyone sharp in case of injury.

  208. HardHabits says:

    Habs play tonight and tomorrow sir.

    I meant that with Habs having two games in a row in a 4 game week and after playing 9 games already Price can use a rest.

  209. SeriousFan09 says:

    In related news, Bertrand Raymond’s only fan is himself.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  210. Mattyleg says:

    Although I agree with him about Gomer, he is a terrible griper.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  211. 24 Cups says:

    Christie Brinkley – another love of my life that got away.  “Uptown girl, livin’ in your uptown world….”

  212. Ian Cobb says:

    Steve! did she say she would sit on your knee for only $19.?  I thought she would have paid you more than that!

  213. LNev says:

    Ya, but who hired the coach?

    This thing goes right to the top!

  214. JohnBellyful says:

    NYI: Long Island – Tonight’s episode: ‘Auld Lang Syne’ – A formidable foe from Canada, known as Habs, who victimized the NYI team earlier in the week arrives in town to complete his work and ice the Long Island crew. Veteran netminder makes a guest appearance. Spoiler alert: Foe returns home with two points in tow.

  215. 24 Cups says:

    PK Subban meets Jimi Hendrix.  Truly brilliant photo-shop artwork.

    Hey Joe, are you experienced?

  216. avatar_58 says:

    I may need to swap out my avatar…

  217. Ian Cobb says:

    This morning your Montreal Canadiens are in 2nd place in the 30 team league. 1 point out of 1st over all.

    This is the year folks! Great management the past 6 years for sure.

    The Summit in 1 week boys and girls.!! Going to be a lot of fun.

    See everyone at Hurleys next Friday night.

  218. Psycho29 says:

    Ian! What is with the positive talk? Management has been inept since Sam Pollock! Haven’t you been reading the posts here????

    With talk like this the townsfolk will be chasing you through the streets with torches and bats!!

    (Actually I agree with you….I like this team and I see potential)

  219. LizardKing1967 says:

    Ian, I couldn’t wholeheartedly agree with you more. I don’t write on here often, but I follow you all every day. I am one of the faithfull who, for the last 5 years, has pleaded with everyone to be patient with Gainey, as he was, is, and always will be a brilliant hockey mind. Now, it’s only 9 games into a very long season, but we are starting to see the fruits of his trees. I can only imagine what this team wil look like in two or three years when Price, P.K. and MaxPac are flourishing in the prime of their careers. They will surely be known at that time as the “killer P’s” or the “Triple P Threat. I cannot wait to see how good our beloved Habs do this year and shut the detractors up once and for all. AND, to all you loud-mouth Price blasters, some of us have been lamenting all along that he only needs to grow up and we’ll see his true NATURAL talent take over. I have stuck by him through the years, unlike most of you turn-coats (and you could check some of my previous rantings to see confirmation), and I am so happy for the young man, that he is finally getting the last laugh. Remember (might be old and tired this saying, but it fits so perfect): “HE WHO LAUGHS LAST LAUGHS THE LOUDEST!” And I am sure Pricey is laughing right now.

    So, when the cup finally comes home in the next year or two, all you Gainey/Price/Plekanec/Gomez/HABS blasters can…….well, I’m too polite.


    Thanks for the space, and I wish you all a wonderful time at the Summit next week. I’ll be watching the games and cheering for MY team.



    Jim-out. I BELIEVE!

  220. Mattyleg says:

    Goddamnit, got my dates effed up. Thought it was tonight!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  221. secretdragonfly says:

    A small dose of schadenfreude to start the day –

    “There’s a new chant at the TD Garden: “Thank you, Kessel.”   That’s what 19,000 strong were chanting after Tyler Seguin helped lead the Boston Bruins to a 2-0 win over the Leafs on Thursday night.”


  222. Instant Karma says:

    Hahaha that is great! Nothing better than having the crowd really get into chants, especially against the leafs!

  223. joshua94k says:

    From the same article:

    And just like in Philadelphia last week, the Leafs dominated territorial play but couldn’t get their shots on net.

    Last night the Leafs had 20 SOG and 0/5 on the PP. Against the Flyers thay had 14 SOG and 0/3 on the PP. You call that dominating the game. The Toronto media keep feeding their fans that the Leafs have so much potential but lose only due to unfortunate events.

    In Montreal, despite being 2nd overall in the league, the media correctly point out areas of concern such as their powerplay, 2nd line scoring etc. The fans and media will never let the Canadiens feel complacent and suger coat their efforts.

    Like Wayne Gretzky said during the 93 Stanley Cup Finals “…look around here, you don’t win 24 Cups for nothing…

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  224. HardHabits says:

    Why not? You do all the time. In a vain attempt to slag the Habs.

  225. LizardKing1967 says:

    “Haven’t you been reading the posts on here????”

    Are all these posters on here smarter than actual paid and employed hockey general managers? What makes any of the posters smarter than BG? I don’t see any of you with his or PG’s job.


    Jim-out. I BELIEVE!

  226. Clay4bc says:

    Too subtle, eh?

    Whoosh………..that was the sound of it flying right over your head.


    Fighting Ignorance since 1970 (It’s taking longer than I thought).

  227. LizardKing1967 says:

    Dave, any way to stop this crazy Loto QUebec pop-up at the bottom of the page everytime it refreshes. It’s getting annoying. And if I see it one more time, I might be tempted to give away my money to them.


    Jim-out. I BELIEVE!

  228. Clay4bc says:

    Use Firefox with add-ons NoScript and AdBlock Plus…

    That’s what I use, and I have never seen a pop-up or even an ad on this site because of them…


    Fighting Ignorance since 1970 (It’s taking longer than I thought).

  229. SLONCOLD says:

    lol he can’t handle a heavy workload? really? seemed fine to me in the playoffs. but then again you’re of the type that if a goalie has a bad game he must be tired right? 

  230. TomNickle says:

    Seemed to be fine in the playoffs.

    Mike…..what happened to Halak at the end of the regular season, Olympics and playoffs.

    The argument that he wears down is very justified.

  231. TripleX says:

    That could easily be stated as true for Montreal as well.  I am holding off speculating just how good this team and Carey are until that first big Western swing.  See how they do against the BIG BOYS.


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  232. SLONCOLD says:

    thought it was a team game Tom? Do u expect a goalie to steal every game? having a bad game is not an indication that a goalie is tired; been something the media just ran with and it has stayed. if price loses 2 or 3 in a row are we going to say it’s beacause he’s playing 9out of ten games? Price has only played 50+ games in teh nhl once (twice in the ahl) how do we know he won’t tire out?

  233. TripleX says:

    Then the observation that Price is weak to the high shot to his glove side is just as valid.  Perhaps even more so since your arguement on Halak is based on ONE season.


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  234. TomNickle says:

    We don’t know.

  235. TomNickle says:

    Price has issues with his glove side.  He’s got great quickness but has trouble squeezing it.

    Just like Halak is down too early on almost every shot.  Flyers were able to exploit that obviously.

  236. SLONCOLD says:

    i always hated that line. “he is weak on high shots” lol that’s how u BEAT ALL GOALIES. lol

    shooters rarely shoot to open areas on a goalie( if they do it’s usually a goal). a good goalie generally covers the bottom of teh net very well and with proper angles, the side and top part of the net too.  so shooters shoot to spots that will open up as the goalie goes down in the butterfly position

  237. habfan53 says:

    Price NEVER played 50 games in a season in the AHL as a matter of fact he has only played a total of 34 games in the AHL of which 22 are in the playoffs.

  238. TomNickle says:

    “The Perfect Shot”

    Is a shot that goes overtop of the goalies’ shoulder around the collarbone area.  Impossible to stop for a goalie from 15 feet in or so.

  239. SLONCOLD says:

    especially on the blocker side

  240. SLONCOLD says:

    my mistake i meant in the juniors with tri-city

  241. Castor says:

    Take it and suck it up. That’s what I’m doing. I got to let it out at bit after the ECF last year. Boy it felt great….but they still say it was a “FLUKE” so they still have their flapping gums. Hopefully this year our Habbies will do well again so we can officially move into “good team” territory rather than “fluke” territory.

  242. Habfan29 says:

    Typical, I was watching the game and Millen says that it is terrible that the leafs are playing better then the bruins and out chancing them and still losing, he sadi this during the 2nd period whne the leafs enjoyed 4 shots on net to Boston’s 11. I guess Greg Millen and Joe Bowen were watching another game.

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