A Habs-free Saturday night

What to do?



PVRed Canadiens games?

• Gorges calls road trip “come together time”

Canadiens a dirty team?

Red Fisher on the Caps’ woes

Red’s notebook

Anti-Habs bias on HNIC

• Stu Cowan on flamboyant hockey

• Sean Gordon on the art of winning faceoffs

• Eric Duhatschek on Ovechkin’s leadership test

• Pierre LeBrun’s Top 10 Trade Bait


  1. J Haul says:

    You can keep up the condescending schtick as much as you like, but it must be stated that just because you aggresively imply something to be true doesn’t make that the case. Nothing has been proven, other than the fact that you’ll skirt around an issue by going on the attack with “witty” wordplay.

    You talk of logic and then ramble on in nonsensical prose, hurling insults along the way. Where’s the logic in that? It’s getting old Bugs, but as I’ve already said, I don’t care enough about what you think about me personally to let it bother me. Keep up the great work.

    I made a simple statement in response to a question posted on an open forum. You didn’t like my take on the issue and look at the huge issue you’ve turned it into. People aren’t always going to say what you want to hear. Get over it, much like I’m over with this conversation.

  2. Bugs says:

    Yeah, it COULD be considered trolling, Jay, that is, if one didn’t know what the word “trolling” meant, sure.

    It could also be considered, say, “spellunking”, if one didn’t know what that word meant either.

    But to those who DO know what those words mean and how to apply them, uhh, no, the manner of my posts could never be considered to be trolling (or spellunking). So hopefully, this is a case of you not knowing how to apply a proper word instead of a case of desperate name-calling to support your (proven) illogical initial post.

    If it’s the former, I forgive you cuz that’s the school system’s fault and not yours; if it’s the latter, well then, I know where you stand, don’t I?


    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  3. J Haul says:

    …and posting in the manner you did could be considered trolling, that is, if I didn’t already take certain posts with a grain of salt. No reason to get huffy with me because you haven’t learned the rules of posting here.

    (chuckle chuckle chuckle)

    FYI, there’s no “Jay” in my name. Thanks though.

  4. Bugs says:

    Your logic fails to hold up again, Jay. This post would’ve been deleted too if your proposition held any water.

    Keep chuckin, ok? Somethin’ bound to stick someday.

    (chuckle) …over and over…yeah, TWICE. Nicely done, Jay.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  5. Exit716 says:

    PJ Stock doesn’t have the talent to be on the air, outside of taking someone’s order at a drive-thru. He stammers and stumbles on the air like some nervous kid in first semester at some broadcasting college. He hasn’t progressed as a broadcaster and doesn’t really have any talent or ability that would warrant him having that CBC position. There are probably a good 500 or so other people in Canada that could easily fill his role that have honed their craft professionally, but are being ignored because PJ allegedly had an NHL career. The fact he still is employed there despite his complete lack of talent is an absolute embarrassment to the CBC which used to have high professional and ethical standards. In short, he should be fired for his lack of ability.


  6. J Haul says:

    Likely because posting the same thing over and over is considered spamming in some circles.

  7. ClaytonM says:

    One can only dream of having the same quality broadcasting for HNIC as we get from The Passionate Eye. That’s the Gold Standard for journalism.

    By the by, whatever happened to the CBC not showing commercials due to their public funding? Did that last even a year?

  8. Hagar says:

    Once Scotty nails 113 pts, he’s my new favourite Hab.

  9. Bugs says:

    Peejay is more a mischievous spit-disturber with a bit of a (understandable?) gripe against the organization than a die-hard hater, I think.

    Milbury has pictures of somebody. Honestly, I…I don’t know. It’s the only…I mean…gotta be. Cuz…dang.

    Just to be clear, since I was never no geolotician but Boston is in the US and Montreal is in Canada, right? Will NESN be inviting Guy Lafleur and Guy Carbonneau to do THEIR games? How does this work is what I wanna know.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  10. DearyLeary says:

    Watch at around 18 minutes in, just after Cooke shaves his moustache off.

  11. Bugs says:

    You think Cherry’s suits come off the rack???

    Custom-made, tailor-fitted, buddy.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  12. CHsam says:

    you know? I used to have sympathy for the CBC’s cause.. but they’ve managed to shoot themselves in the foot with mistake after mistake.. Including things like the Anthem.. and changing CBC Radio 2’s programming… and forever Don Cherry and his preaching pulpit….. so when Stephen Harper comes running threatening to cut the CBC and scaring the crap out of them, I’m actually not so sympathetic…..

    Comments using the words ‘cockroaches’ should be reserved for criminals, not talented hockey individuals who play with an ethic to win.

  13. adam76 says:

    The CBC cost 2 billion dollars a year to run.  Unreal.

  14. Johnny_D says:

    Absolute hooray for Boone’s article about the disgusting CBC conduct during the last Habs game.

  15. Bugs says:

    Guy doesn’t get a fair shake seems like sometimes, but numbers don’t lie.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  16. Hammer says:

    I remember Guy firing at that Block head, as I was actually watching the game! The only problem is that he missed ( on purpose). As for Stock, useless as a player a piece of garbage as a commentator.

  17. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    He has a tramp stamp?

  18. bigjames says:

    actually i think i hate nesn more then the bruins themselves! i lived in boston for 3 years and was disgusted by them. derek sanderson…omg!

  19. Habs_Fan_1 says:

    Thank you for the great article Mike =)

  20. punkster says:

    I, for one, am happy to see at least one media outlet reporting on the stunning reversal of fortunes for Gomez. Those projected year end numbers are nothing short of astounding! Great work by the boys in the basement Bugs.


  21. punkster says:

    Enjoyable read Mike.

    (Aside: I’m not an anti-CBCer though I cannot stand the HNIC broadcasts. Their news programmes are good and CBC2 radio is excellent.)


  22. novahab says:

    I will certainly write thanks for the link.

  23. Mattyleg says:

    Sock it to ’em Booner, I wrote my email to David Masse complaining about Milbury.

    I didn’t talk about their bias, just about Milbury’s ‘crazed-hockey-dad’ attitude, and what a bad example he is.

    Anyone else want to put in their two cents and put pressure on the Ceeb, write to david.masse@cbc.ca

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  24. HardHabits says:

    I will certainly join the chorus of those who approve of Boone’s article. Well played sir. I got a great kick out of reading it.

  25. DearyLeary says:

    Ovie’s got a lower back tatoo!!! hahahahah

  26. Jbird says:

    They also now have it on NHL.com

  27. ooder says:

    yo Booner… great article!


    88 is the new 23

  28. Danno says:

    Note to Milbury. Daffy said it best.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  29. Fargo Habs Fan says:

    Living in the States, I rarely get an RDS broadcast (only 2 this year, both 3-0 losses, odd.)  Most of my hockey is provided by HNIC or FS.  I think Carolina does a decent job.  NESN is embarrassing as was NESN North during the last Bruins game.

    Well done Boone for calling it out. 


  30. thorandresson says:

    Great article Boone!

  31. Mattyleg says:

    The worst thing about this whole ‘dirty’ thing is that it shows how poor the Booins are at analysing themselves.

    They weren’t skating on Thursday night. They were all standing around watching us skate circles around them.

    It was funny to see, actually, and they looked like they were trapped in quicksand.

    Then for them to turn around and blame US for their poor play shows a very immature attitude.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  32. sidhu says:

    Gomez has hired soem WikiLeaks hackers to police the Habs I/O comments section

  33. Rugger says:

    Too many greats to just pick one side, Need to fit Dryden, Bobby Smith, Damphousse…even Richer for that 1-2 years.

  34. Malreg says:

    For any one who doesnt get HBO, the first full episode of 24/7 Penguins and Capitals is now on youtube.


  35. idle says:

    It is rather odd isn’t it.  You would think that if there was a Canadian team vs a non Canadian team they at least would be nutral if not supporting the Canadian team.

  36. Bugs says:

    Umm, anyone know why my Gomez post was deleted? Booner, what gives?

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  37. DearyLeary says:

    It’s still a publicly owned company.  You’d think their cheerleaders would at least cheer for a Canadian team.  Not so in CBC’s perverted dimension of reality.

  38. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Thank you.

  39. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Thanks, will definately be tossing back a few Black and Tans tonight.

  40. N.B.habs fan says:

    Happy birthday james may you and your wife have a great night..CHEERS!

  41. idle says:

    Have a happy B’day : )

  42. habs001 says:

    my line up for the habs if we can take players from 1976 to now…may not all be the best players but i believe would be a pretty good team


    goal roy,price

    d  robinson,savard,lapointe,markov,chelios,langway

    f    shutt  lemaire  lafleur  

         gainey carbonneau tremblay

         naslund plecks  cournoyer

         camm  koivu  c. lemieux

    many other considerations…

  43. idle says:

    @ Boone

    The only problem I have with your article on the CBC is that you brought up the fact that the CBC is supported by taxpayer money.  Not true when it comes to it’s hockey telecast.  HNIC makes profits.  You could argue that it lessens the load that taxpayers pay because it brings more money into the network so less of a shortfall.

    I’m not wanting to argue here whether we think there should be a public broadcaster but most fans who rant about the CBC on here act like the only thing they show is hockey and Little Mosque On The Prairie.  The benefit of the CBC is programs like Fifth Estate, Passionate Eye, the National and other more traditional journalism which may be more deserving of public money (more then hockey at least).

    It’s easy to argue against publicly funded news but if the alternative is FOX or (closer to home) CTV then I’m not so sure the CBC is such a bad idea.

  44. sidhu says:

    Just read Boone’s excellent article on the lack of objectivity on the CBC broadcasts — the use of the words “buffoons” to describe Milbury and Stock could not be more accurate.  Keep it up, Boone!

  45. tony d says:

    Good article Mike on the HNIC bias, pathetic clowns for sure. As for the Boston paper calling our boys despicable, dirty and little, they got 2 out of 3 right. Sure we’re little by NHL standards, and the urban dictionary defines dirty as ‘sick’ or ‘awesome’ which we usually are (except on nights when we don’t play a full 60) But as for despicable, well that’s a taunt that’s usually reserved for Daffy Duck or any other whiny cartoon character.

  46. sidhu says:

    Good for OB — he’s playing lots and is +11 already with the Avs.

  47. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Sucks not having a habs game on a saturday night, but it’s my birthday, so going to go out for a nice dinner with my beautiful wife.  Then we are off to see Tron @ the Imax.

  48. mon_chums says:

    company party!

  49. joeybarrie says:

    To add to Smiler’s post below. I don’t know if it’s biased or if they are planning something. But if anyone has seen the HBO 24/7 on the Winter Classic, you probably noticed how GREAT the Pens come off, and how poorly the Caps come off. My wife was trying to figure out why the Caps seem to hate themselves and everything. But the Pens are looking great. I think as the Caps come back to winning HBO will show the other side to them as well, so it will be a fuzzy warm X-mas miracle for them….

    But right now, they look pretty bad.

    OH YEAH, Great article BOONE… Incredible how CBC ignores (trying to be nice) alot of its Canadian teams in preference for American teams, when the channel is supposed to be for THE PEOPLE of Canada.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  50. Number31 says:

    I don’t mind biased commentary but not for a NATIONAL broadcast. You expect biased commentary if you’re watching NESN or FS(insertnamehere). The thing I do mind is when you have “the Bruins alumni” on Hockey Night in CANADA (not Boston) basically show their stripes and take it personal. It’s the national broadcast, and as a hockey “analyst” you need to take the objective equal view on the game. Kelly Hrudey at least does this…because he’s analyzing segments to show people how something happened and why. PJ Stock’s is more of an act, and he looked a little embarrased as the show went on, whether he has a grudge or not is semi-debatable as the Habs traded him for Gino Odjick (who is an awesome guy and I love what he does now with the kids from Native communities). But Bob Gainey already put him in his place once upon a time at some gala so whatever. Milbury, however, is a bitter tool angry the Canadiens had the Bruins number every single time. He results to name calling and insults, wants players to fight over clean hits (when many a panel agree that’s the stupidest thing ever) and to injure each other.

    Now Brad May chimed in, basically repeating the same crap. This is the same guy who said Olivier Fortier should have been in the box for fighting because one of the three Marlies mauling him should have made him fight for going after a loose puck in the crease…like everyone is supposed to do when the puck is loose. Also laughable, Brad May said the Bruins have the Habs number. That was pretty hilarious. Tell that to any Bruins fan and they’d also laugh at that comment.

    RDS (and the special TSN channel) is the official Habs broadcast, but even they are less biased than the CBC. (Actually their bias seems to be angled more towards Francophone players than just the Habs, which is OK considering it’s for the Francophone market despite how annoying it is to see them salivate over Briere, Giroux, and Bergeron).

    If you look at NHLN On the Fly, they’re pretty balanced. Usually they focus on the team that wins the game in the end because their panel is on rapid-fire.

    CBC kind of makes me wish we had Versus. Only just a little =p

  51. NoTinFoilCups says:

    Let  the CBC hang itself with its own rope. In the meantime I will be watching any other feed available.

  52. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Thats for sure. She probably has a higher IQ than those two schmucks combined.  I also wonder how the hell Milbury get’s away with that crap on a broadcaster that operates with Canadian tax funds.  I’m beginning to think they may be grooming Milbury to take over Cherry’s spot when the old coot finally get’s dragged off the air.

  53. novahab says:

    Well don’t give Milbury to much credit he not smart enough to think that up himself.  He got that from listening to Cherry and Richards.

  54. DearyLeary says:

    Probably scores higher on an IQ test to boot.

    I mean… Millbury made no attempt to hide the fact that he wants people to premeditatedly attack an opposint player.  How on earth do you get away with that.

  55. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I just sent the CBC an email saying I would rather they hire Maggie the monkey from TSN rather than Milbury and Stock.  I said even though she is from Toronto, she would have more professionalism and journalistic integrity when reporting on Habs related news than those two buffoons. 

  56. J Haul says:

    It’s so nice to see someone other than disgruntled fans pointing out the HNIC deficiencies. Perhaps with members of the media calling them out they’ll finally be forced to at least pay attention. There’s no way the CBC can give the respected writers of a paper like the Gazette the same old BS form letter that they give every upset hockey fan. Good stuff Boone. Don’t let them off the hook!

  57. JohnBellyful says:

    What to do? Why, go to a movie, of course.

    Now playing:

    True Grits – Inspirational tale about a lowly NHL team from Atlanta moving up in the standings. It’s the South rises once again, fuelled by a popular dish influenced by Chicago cuisine.

    The Fighter – True story based on the life of Mike “The Spike” Cammalleri, feared sniper turned pugilist who nailed foes with both his fists and soft hands. Highlight of picture is Cammalleri going toe-to-toe, face-to-shoulder with Bruin goon David Krejci.

    The King’s Speech – Gripping drama about LA coach Terry Murray as he prepares for the most important game of his career. Movie follows him from preseason to playoffs, where, in the seventh game of the Stanley Cup finals, and his team down 5-0, he delivers a stirring dressing room message in the second intermission that … well, you’ll have to see the movie.

    The Little Fockers – Comedy about a family of young misfits who employ various schemes to play with the big boys but invariably fail. Sequel to hilarious Beat the Fockers shown on television every winter since 1967.

    Megamind – Michael Moore exposé on Leafs general manager, who suffers from megalomania.

    Unstoppable – A behind-the-scenes look at the Montreal Canadiens en route to their 25th Stanley Cup.

    Or rent these classics:

    Meet Me in St. Louis – Tearjerker about popular goalie traded to another city. Climatic scene is when he makes his emotional farewell and invites his ex-teammates to pay him a visit in his new home.

    Yankee Doodle Dandy – Musical about Henrik Lundqvist, named one of the 15 best dressed athletes by Forbes.com. Comedy relief provided by his snidekick, Sean Avery.

    Do you have any favourites?

    — “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.” —


  58. Rugger says:

    The Great Escape – Lou L. wants out of New Jersey but knows he won’t be able to get out of his contract,  In order to escape he comes up with a madcap plan to destroy the organization from within by handcuffing the cap for a decade, forcing the owner to let Lou escape to greener ice.

  59. andrewberkshire says:

    These movies all sound excellent. How are we supposed to choose?

  60. SeriousFan09 says:

    I can’t believe we’re forgetting to  mention Triple X’s favourite movie of all time: No Country For Old Men.

    Also if you have time, check out the Don Cherry biopic: V For Vendetta.

    And coming soon, Die Hard: A complete collection of PK Subban’s hits this season.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  61. Rugger says:

    The Lord of the Rinks Trilogy:

    Part 1.  Fellowship of the Rink – The Wizard Gainey the Great collects an unlikely collection of hero’s led by the Dwarf Martin and Hobbits Gomez, Cammy and Gianta along with various others fighting evil Leafs, Bruins and Flyers in their quest to regain the cup.

    Part 2. The Twin Towers – The Hobbits along with new hero PK skate rings around the twin towers of Chara and Pronger in their quest for the cup.

    Part 3 – Return of the Cup – The Fellowship succeed in their quest, returning the Stanley Cup to it’s rightful place in Montreal by destroying the wicked witch of the west and her flying Red Wings.

  62. punkster says:

    Lapierre of Arabia – A flamboyant and controversial young Quebecer
    battles conflicting loyalties whilst leading a Stanley Cup charge.



  63. notbigbird says:

    You laid it out pretty well in your article, Boone. Whatever happened to the HNIC that gave us such class acts at Gallivan and Irvin?

  64. DearyLeary says:

    Hear hear.

  65. Habsrule1 says:

    Excellent article Boone! I can’t even imagine an unbiased HNIC team anymore. It’s almost as if that never existed. Is it really that difficult to find good broadcasters and analysts these days?

    Go Habs Go!! “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  66. DearyLeary says:

    The other thing about the CBC is its implicit approval of intentionally hurting players as a legitimate tactic in hockey.

  67. bigjames says:

    how can red fisher and the gazette possibly let the following sentence go into print:

    Here’s a team that went into the season favoured to win the Stanley Cup for some reason I can’t understand, considering they fell to the Canadiens in the second round of the playoffs last season.

    Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Despite+their+firepower+Caps+have+turned+into+popguns/3997135/story.html#ixzz18TEjtIAk

    the second round?
  68. DearyLeary says:

    haha… poor Red.

  69. Danno says:

    From the other page…

    The team certainly has a Mexican/Latin American connection with Scott Gomez…

    Scott Gomez was born and raised in a modest one family home in
    Anchorage, Alaska. His father, Carlos Gomez, a native of Mexico, moved
    there from San Diego in 1972 so he could take a construction job. It
    was in Alaska where Carlos met and married Dalia, a native of Colombia.

     -Source: Latino Legends of Sports

    after what Mike Milbury said on HNIC, I think the Bell Centre should
    adopt La Cuccaracha (The Cockroach song) as their goal song.

    Think about it. It’s a crowd pleaser — a lively little tune with lots
    of jump. It fits in nicely with the Olé, olé olé olé chant that also
    has a Spanish origin.

    Plus the cockroach is a very resilient and adaptable creature. It is
    small yes, but very tough. And almost impossible to get rid of — even if
    you hate them as much as Milbury and Don Cherry hate the Habs.

    It is popularly suggested that cockroaches will “inherit the earth” if humanity destroys itself in a nuclear war.
    Cockroaches do indeed have a much higher radiation resistance than
    vertebrates, with the lethal dose perhaps 6 to 15 times that for humans.

    I love the symbolism of the tough, indestructible little cockroach.

    I was surprised to discover what the meaning of the words to La Cuccaracha were.

    Here’s a couple of renditions of this wonderful and popular folk song…



    Viva La CuccaraCHa!

    Vive Les Cocquerelles!

    Long Live CockroaCH Power!


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  70. DearyLeary says:

    Only when we’re playing The Bruins.  Just to rub it in Millbury’s face.

  71. JohnBellyful says:

    Interesting. A worthy idea the Bell Centre should consider.

    (You just know they’re going to play Louie Louie when Louis Leblanc makes the team.)

  72. smiler2729 says:

    Don’t forget Keith Richards, cockroaches and Keith Richards are the only living things that could survive a nuclear war.  Maybe get Keith to record “La Cucaracha”.

  73. arcosenate says:

    Well put Boone.

  74. smiler2729 says:

    I have grown to really really loathe the Washington Capitals, from the self-serving ego of owner Ted Leonis to the braggart tactics of the Overrated Ovenchicken to potty mouth Boudreau’s total mishandling and confidence destroying of his goalies, they get so much undeserved attention by the hockey media.

    I’m so glad all their warts are showing after the Habs wiped that shine off their smug faces last spring. They have been exposed for what they truly are – a witch in a Playboy bunny costume.

  75. Big Ted says:

    Boone, that was a great piece you wrote about Milbury and Stock, and I would further throw in that there are a number of other cogs in the CBC wheel who are quite vehemently pro-Toronto as well. I liked the analogy to the NFL commentators, and it’s 100% true that you rarely if ever see an NFL analyst attacking the team playing against his old squad. The CBC has been heading downhill for many years and I count myself among those who rarely tune in any more, preferring Pierre Houde and the RDS team any day of the week but especially Saturdays. Yet the CBC continues to hit new lows with a lack of objectivity and a lack of a panel that truly reflects the views of fans across the country. Imagine if the Canadian government decided that just because parliament is based in Ottawa, that all new laws would be pro-Ottawa and that it would be alright to bash the other cities and demand that the police and other government officials treat citizens outside of Ottawa as second-rate. This, on a lower scale, is exactly what the CBC has done. That Cherry is still around is an embarassment. That they have added several more chumps of the same ilk is irreproachable.

    From looking at the PP and PK chances for each team, as well as from watching games involving the Habs and games between other teams, it is quite clear that 1) the Bruins and Flyers have always been, are, and likely always will be teams that are dirtier than the Canadiens; 2) both those teams get off light from the officials; 3) other teams, including the Habs, seem to get the short end of the stick more often than not with missed calls on what should be serious penalties like hits from behind, knee-on-knee’s, or high-sticking, while taking more than their fair share of borderline interference or holding calls; 4) the Bruins and Flyers’s organizations seem to whine and complain a lot more than other teams and are thus giant hypocrites. Admittedly, I, like many other fans, do not hold back when the refs err over and over in the same game, but again, the numbers over the past two years show without a doubt that the Habs are being penalized far more than their opposition while the games do not show that this should be the case. But as a fan, I also feel entitled to have a point of view that will be skewed towards my team, whereas a media member on a national broadcasting company should be compelled by professional integrity to offer a more objective and rational opinion. Unfortunately, rationality, professionalism, and integrity are three virtues that are not possessed by Mr.’s Cherry, Milbury, and Stock.

  76. DearyLeary says:

    On top of that we get an old Maple Leaf commentator, who’s too old and senile for Leafs broadcasts, so Boob Cole gets sent out to Siberia (Montreal) to rot.   Then we’ve got Glen Healy, who we embarrassed in the playoffs for the Islanders, and played in Toronto to boot.

    They had Carbo for a while, but apparently he’s not good enough.  There is nobody with Habs ties on their broadcast, and they all seem visibly ill when the Canadiens do well.  

    I’ve been reduced to watching the standard definition RDS broadcasts instead of the CBC HD feed.  I can’t stomach it.  At the absolute least I watch the HD feed on mute and listen to CJAD on internet radio, even Momesso isn’t as bad as the hacks the CBC employs.

  77. Danno says:

    Well said. Two thumbs up Big Ted


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  78. novahab says:

    Very well put and so true. The CBC is to blame because these meatheabs are put on and allowed to say this crap and supported by the CBC. Many many years ago when we use to hear about DIck and Danny being a homer we never heard anything come out of thier mouths like this. This is not just HNIC this goes right to the NHL and all you have to do is look how the games have been called against the Habs its right there in black and white. It is not that the NHL sits around and talks about getting the Habs. It the refs that know the other team management will complain and Montreal does not so it’s a easy night for them to give the other team the PP. If your a ref making the money they are making and you know one team will complain and one doesn’t what would you do. I know Montreal ownership doesn’t want to and I love that but its dog eat dog if you don’t stand up this will continue. Bettman will not tell team owners and GMs to stop calling after all they are his boss.

  79. JF says:

    Very well put except that “irreproachable” (end of first paragraph) is surely the wrong word; it means “can’t be faulted.”

  80. JohnBellyful says:

    I’m leaving it open to HIO posters to recall their own favourites. Like The Wrath of Grapes.

  81. Exit716 says:

    I think it’s great news to see that the Islanders, Devils and Ducks are whining for revenue sharing money.

    Sorry, New Jersey if your organization can’t build a sustainable business and fan base after three Stanley Cups in 15 years, I don’t see where it’s the responsibility of Geoff Molson and his partners and the Habs fan base to prop up Lou and the Devils. Ditto for the Mighty Ducks. Learn how to market your team properly, don’t come looking for a handout. As for the Islanders, move the team or fold. Simple as that.


  82. novahab says:

    Great article Boone just when I there was no balls at the Gazette you step up. Now we need the Molsons to step up call a press conference and say enough is enough. No one is asking for special treatment just for the team to be treated fairly.

  83. Cape Breton says:

    Jack Todd got balls buddy. Did u read his last monday’s blast on the Don? Now that was Excellent stuff.

  84. HabFab says:

    My favorite and I didn’t see the original.

  85. kempie says:

    That’s what I like about you Boone: You always seem to write almost exactly what I’m thinking.

  86. Mike Boone says:

    Yeah, but what if we’re both wrong?

  87. Timo says:

    Can PJ and Milbury actually read? 

  88. punkster says:

    Feeling any better this morning?


  89. Shiloh says:

    Great column, Boone. Of course I liked the content, but the actual writing was very tight, very well done. It must be hard to find the pace of a full column after doing so much live-blogging.

  90. djsunnyside says:

    That HNIC commentary really was over the top and I was forced to write CBC and complain (and I’m a big fan of CBC in general). I don’t mind pundits taking sides but it would be so much more entertaining for everyone if they had opposing views. Too bad Larry Robinson didn’t do a sudden walk-on in the middle of that biased rant and call them on the hypocrisy.

  91. ClaytonM says:

    I’d rather see Larry enter the set, pull Milbury’s jacket over his head and remind him of when he had to play Montreal.

  92. bp says:

    Hey Boone, don’t lump the ROC in with the CBC / Toronto crowd. The sports radio types out here in Vancouver spent the day bitching about how whenever the Leafs visit the Canucks, CBC makes the game start at 4 PM local time to accommodate eastern viewers. The public broadcaster screws the locals who actually have to work Saturdays.


  93. habsonly says:

    Well said Boone.

    It is really annoying to have to listen to the jealous spite that comes from people like Milbury and Cherry.

    HNIC, CBC, has really lost alot of credibilty in recent years, with all Hab haters like Cheery and Milbury and lets not forget Bob Cole the huge Leaf fan doing the Habs play by play. Sickening.

    TSN has a subtle dislike for the Habs as well, I think it stems from the jealous envy of the Habs being more sucessful than the Leafs, 43 and counting.

    Sometimes I will put the Habs game on TSN or CBC for a few minutes and in frustration turn the channel to RDS where I  can watch and enjoy the game without being annoyed by all the negativity from the commentators. I watch the games on RDS about 95% of the time.

    Its time for CBC to clean up its act.  Oh how I miss Danny and Dick.




  94. HUDSONHAB says:

    Allow me to repeat myself.

    Cole and Healy during the game and Milbury at intermission are three good reasons to watch RDS even if you don’t understand french.

    Also, I have watched the Habs play the Bruins on Nesn, those guys are brutal homers with huge egos. That’s were Milbury should be, not on CBC.


  95. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    I’m like you habsonly, I watch mostly on RDS, but from time to time I’ll tune into CBC or TSN, get frustrated and turn back. Maybe it’s just my way of validating the reasons for why I hate them.

  96. rocketsglare says:

    Boone, great article. Agree 100%, I specially liked your dig at Fox News. As for the Bruins accusing the Canadiens

    of dirty play, I like most others laugh it off. IMO, what really is happening here is that Boston is frustrated in their

    inability to use their bigger size to handle the smaller and “weaker” Canadiens. They seem to be shocked that the

    Habs not only can stand up to the “big,bad Bruins”, but also do some ass kicking themselves. But, the Bruins only

    make themselves look whinny and whimpish by continuing their hysteria of “dirty play” against the Habs.

    Go Habs Go!




  97. ClaytonM says:

    But when I make a Fox News comment, I get jumped by Obama haters. WTF?!?!?

  98. Chorske says:

    Does anyone even watch the CBC anymore?

  99. jennifer1984 says:

    unfortunately yes since i don’t have RDS

    i used to enjoy watching the intermissions a lot, now i could care less. but i do like to see what Loudmouth Cherry has to say this week

  100. habs4ever2894 says:

    I think there’s a really good possibility of the habs adding Arnott or Lagenbrunner or possibly both at the trade deadline if the devils keep losing . I think they would be great additions to our forward corps as they are big and gritty and just the type of players we need to beat philly. Also i wouldnt mind getting joni pitkanen  from carolina to QB the powerplay.

  101. Chorske says:

    The faceoff article was super interesting. Statisically, over the course of maybe ten games, there is no difference whatsoever between a 55% guy and a 45% guy– but extend that over the course of an entire season, or an entire career, and even a difference beteen 49% and 51% becomes statistically meaningful. So the guys who are winning 55% are really exceptional.

    You can test this using a really simple procedure called a sign test. Lets say a guy takes 100 faceoffs, and wins 55 of them- his success rate is 55%, but statistically his success rate is not different from 50%. But if that same guy takes 1000 faceoffs, and wins 550, his success rate is still 55%, but it is now VERY different from 50%.

  102. Chorske says:

    I’d prefer Erik Cole. He’s fast, he’s a versatile winger, he can score with the right supporting cast. He pleases the sizeist fans as well, being a big lug.

  103. ClaytonM says:

    I’d choose Pitkanen because of his age (27) over Langenbrunner (37?) and Cole’s history of injuries. Also he’s Finnish, and I enjoy their hockey style. A nice mix of skill and grit.


  104. JF says:

    It would be great to get Pitkanen, but I’m afraid Carolina will be in the playoff hunt by then.  They’ve been playing well lately, and they’re usually a good team down the stretch.  My guess is they’ll go ahead of Tampa unless the Bolts do something about their goaltending.  If Calgary’s out of it, we might be able to get Regehr.

  105. ClaytonM says:

    Apparently The Boston Herald only has 1 writer covering the bruins.  Although his comment about The Canadiens being a dirty team is laughable, here’s what he wrote about PK’s hit:

    Brad Marchand could play a long time in the NHL and never take another
    hit as thunderous as the one laid on him, perfectly clean, by Canadiens
    defenseman P.K. Subban.

    “You’re going to get hit the odd times, but I’ve never been hit like
    that, ever,” said Marchand. “I had a lot of speed. That only made it
    worse. He just knocked the wind out of me. He kind of got me in the
    midsection with his back or rear end. I’m OK.” . . .

  106. habs-hampton says:

    Not a Canucks fan, but don’t forget about Ron McLean’s public lynching of Alex Burrows last year. Completely one-sided. Just another example for the lack of integrity of the CBC Sports.

  107. habs-hampton says:

    Funny how everyone at CBC and TSN had huge h****n for Dion Phaneuf when he was hitting guys hard when he broke in.

  108. Da Hema says:

    A nice stack of columns today. Mike Boone did a fine job trying to draw broader attention to the shocking decline in quality of HNIC. I agree entirely with his Troy Aikman example. How long would Aikman be a commentator in the US if all he did was boost the Dallas Cowboys (or attack the San Francisco 49ers or Green Bay Packers, who were former intense rivals)? I would go one step further: in NFL broadcasts in the US, there is not one mention that their studios are in New York. Compare that to HNIC with its Pantheon-sized image of Toronto in the studio background. So amateurish, so insecure, so typically Torontonian.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  109. boris420 says:

    Hey guys, I found a bunch of people streaming tonight’s fight! Check it out:


  110. W35T5ID3 says:

    Anybody else see Brad May’s bone and rant that he picked with the habs supposed dirty play on HNIC online??He went off worse than PJ and Mad Mike on this issue.Jeff Marek the host just sits there as did Ron MacLean and allowed this unworthy trashing of a good hard working and clean Habs hockey team.F***YOU ALL OF YOU AT CBC!Get your act together.How embarassing for them.

  111. darkhorse says:

    I don’t really comment, but I couldn’t resist this time.  I agree 100% with Boone’s article. CBC has seriously declined. I live in Ontario and its unbelievably frustrating when a Saturday Night roles around and the Habs are playing, but the Leafs take precedent…OK, fair enough I’m in Leafs country and I expect it, but even when you do see the Habs play not only do they not bias for the Habs (like they do for other Canadian teams), but they pretty much cheer against them.

    I took French all the way through high school and I’m trying continue to pick up the language, I probably understand 25% of the RDS commentary and I would still rather watch it than Hockey Night in Canada. I love that TSN has started to show some of the games, with relatively decent commentary.

    And to further the point Big Ted made about CBC going downhill, it becomes apparent with CFL coverage, which they just handed to TSN, as they did a much better job.

    That’s my take on it anyways

  112. keepthefaith says:

    Good job on the CBC piece Mr. Boone. Nice to see it in the Gazette and not just us bitching on here. 

    Also is Jeoffrey Lupol going to play for every team in league?

  113. ClaytonM says:

    TSN is better than CBC for hockey coverage, but does Pierre McGuire have to list every person’s bio when he talks about them? It seems to me like he’s overcompensating about his hockey knowledge by having a pack of flash cards on hand.

    Play Take A Shot every time McGuire mentions where someone played in juniors, see if you die of alcohol poisoning by the 1st intermission.

  114. Rugger says:

    I find it ironic that ex-Bruins complain about Laps when it was a Bruin that truely defined the agitator role for future generations – Kenny “The Rat” Linsman – the agitator prototype.

  115. habsruleworld says:

    Some stats on NHL penalty minute allocation by referees:

    Toronto 31 gp, +66 mins on
    powerplay. Vancouver 29 gp, +13 mins on powerplay. Calgary 31 gp, +12
    mins on powerplay. Edmonton 32 gp, +8 mins on powerplay. Montreal 32 gp,
    -43 mins on powerplay. Ottawa 34 gp, -59 on powerplay, penalty shots are counted,
    10 min misconducts are excluded since there is no advantage

    corruption alive and breeding? Why is it maple laughs get to play at
    their regular time zone time instead of playing at Pacific time?

    Why do laughs lead league in 5 – 3 ‘s?

    it because the laughs are such a powerful and great team that they
    force other teams to take alot of penalties, because the laffs overwhelm
    the opposition teams into taking penalties?

    things that make you go  Hmmm

    on top of that, Canadian taxpayers pay so that CBC can regularly have a
    platform tocontinue with divisive and biased and cheap shot attacks on
    the Montreal canadiens hockey team, and their fans

    for those that
    want to try and make a change and let those responsible know about your
    dis-pleasure, here is the mail to the head honcho at CBC, responsible.


  116. Da Hema says:

    Linseman was the penultimate rat. One of my fondest hockey memories was a game between the Habs and Bruins when Mats Naslund was at his peak. Linseman was skating around the ice being a complete prick, as usual, when Naslund skated by Linesman, stuck out the butt end of his stick, and nailed Linseman right in the mouth. Linseman lost about six teeth that night. What was even funnier was watching Naslund skip into the penalty box for two minutes! I guess the referees also hated Linseman, otherwise Naslund surely would have been ejected from the game. The Bruins have little right to complain about dirty play given the number of rat pricks who have donned their uniform–such as Mike Milbury.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  117. Gorges_the_great says:

    Wow. Never thought I’d see reference to a non-parametric test on HIO. Just to up the nerdiness, in this case, because the outcome is binary, you could juse use the binomial distribution to test instead. Actually, I think it ends up being the same as the sign test.

    Go Habs!

  118. keepthefaith says:

    I also think it is BS that the league changes the start time of the F’in Leafs game till the afternoon. They dont do it for the Habs and i get to see them get trounced once a year when they come here. Its pathetic.

  119. Graves says:

    You know, to me, it’s not even about having former Bruins (or Leafs, or whoever) as commentators on CBC. I could care less about what team a guy used to play for, I just wish they’d hire someone who played the game with some modicum of intelligence. Mike Milbury? Brad May? P.J. Stock? Two-bit goons, the first of whom is best remembered as a player for beating a fan with his own shoe. If the CBC picked up, say, Ray Bourque for example, I’d be thrilled! The guy was a lifelong Bruin – minus the Avalanche years – but I highly doubt he’d be calling Subban a cockroach for lining a guy up at the blue line and pasting him with a good, clean hit. Plus, he might actually contribute something of worth during the intermissions – imagine that.

  120. badbalance says:

    I really do not know what to say anymore. Habs aren’t allowed to breethe in this league. We win and outplay a team and we’re “cockroaches”, “Dirty”…..

    We have an amazing rookie Dman. If he was playing on aw team like flyers or pens he would be getting love from every analyst and reported about how hard working and dedicated he is, there would be no racist business.

    Not many analysts give credit to the Habs for being one of the top teams in the league right now. Are we really that hated around the league? THe only game this season where I have seen the other team respect our team and just play hockey and not fight after each whistle was against Detroit (the anti-goons).

    I feel like there’s a competition going on between these analysts… Who can hate on the habs more and who can make them look worse…


  121. Bill says:

    It’s because in recent years the Habs have improved: it brings the haters back. And anyone who is a fan of another team really does hate the Habs, because of their historic success and because of the general glow around the organization. No-one hated them during the Houle/Martin Rucinsky/Pierre Dagenais days … they were too pitiful. But they got to the ECF’s last year, and have started out strong, so the resentment is back with a vengeance. I enjoy it!

    Same thing would happen to the Leafs if they ever got good. Granted, this hypothesis will never have a chance to be empirically tested, but …

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  122. Da Hema says:

    An interesting perspective.

    I think, though, the fault lies with the producers of HNIC. They have clearly lost control of the broadcast itself, and it seems even more evident that Don Cherry has taken an almost iron control of HNIC. How else could a rat-idiot like Mike Milbury–who by the way was one of Cherry’s favorite players–ever get on the air in the first place? It is difficult to imagine a producer like Ralph Mellanby allowing HNIC to descend this far into the gutter. HNIC is without any doubt the worst produced sports broadcast on the airwaves today. Nothing short of cleaning house will rescue HNIC from its ultimate fate.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  123. Exit716 says:

    Ralph Mellanby hired Cherry and fired Dave Hodge, so spare me the lecture of “classy” Mellanby. He’s the one that is the architect of the show’s long and steady decline into a second rate Saturday afternoon wrestling broadcast.


  124. AH says:

    “A loudmouth American and an inarticulate former goon”….perfect description Boone!, (although a lot tamer than I would have described them).

  125. Gorges_the_great says:

    Agreed. Although RDS is a million times better, I have this beef with them too. Joel Bouchard? Marc Denis? Nothing personal against those guys but I’d prefer to listen to someone with a better hockey pedigree. And what’s with all these goalies on HNIC? For sure goalies have to get in the mind of skaters to predict what they’re going to do but in terms of analysis, I’d rather listen to a player who was successful at the position being analyzed.

  126. AH says:

    To answer your question BB, and this is just my opinion, as much as I love the Habs, I do believe we are like the New York Yankees in baseball, IE “the Evil Empire”, lots of fans across the country, but just as much if not more who hate the Habs! Why?, because of our success of course. Unfortunately it is a “cross” we will have to bear being Habs fans. I live in Edmonton, and the only reason why I’m not getting dissed now is because the Oilers have sucked for so long, but believe me when the Oilers are going good , this town is a brutal place to be if your a Habs fan, (although I take some solace in the fact that there a lot of us here!).



  127. djsunnyside says:

    well put.

  128. shootdapuck says:

    Maclean is having a wet dream on CBC right now sucking up to Fehr.




    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3”

  129. sillywalk says:

    On top of the change in time, someone on the pre-game show just now was going on about how Luongo has a great record in afternoon games, while Gustavsson has never played an afternoon game. Um, hello? It’s not afternoon to Gustavsson’s body at 7:00 EST. Why do you never hear about how hard it is to play at 10pm EST when the East teams play in BC?

  130. Bugs says:

    Disagree. Not only are Bouchard and Denis extremely knowledgeable (to my uttter surprise, I’ll admit) but also very articulate. You shoulda said Brunet.

    But of course, I agree with the point you’re makin: they should get guys who were known for their intelligence on the ice and not for their talentless barbarity.

    Unquestionably unquestionable, I think I’m

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  131. Keith says:

    Mr. Boone,


    Great read about the Anti-Habs bias on HNIC. I’m glad somebody in the mainstream media is finally calling out those idiots at the CBC. Except for Bruce Dowbiggin no one else has the balls to say anything, but I knew that if anyone would it would be ole Booner from HIO. From a Habs fan and a used-to-be HNIC fan I thank you.

  132. Mikey_39 says:

    Really interesting stats! I’d be interested to see where the Penguins, Caps and Flyers rank in that category.  Especially the flyers since they’re such a dirty team but seem to never be called on anything.  I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pens were ahead of the Leafs.  

  133. Da Hema says:

    I never described Mellanby as “classy,” nor did my comment comprise a “lecture.” Settle down, my dear. There was nothing wrong with hiring Cherry in the first place. At one time Cherry was entertaining and insightful, although the last five years he has become a caricature. Dave Hodge deserved to be fired. I shared his frustration with the CBC leaving an overtime game in progress to go to its news, but I would dismiss him too for what he did before switching to the news. Very unprofessional.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  134. Mad Habber says:

    Alright everyone, lets play a game…

    Your the producer for HNIC, you’ve wiped the slate clean of the old cast and have to hire a new one. Who do you hire for:


    pre-game/1st intermission/end game loud mouth?

    Hot Stove guys? (not sure these guys are the problem either then when Milbury/Healy/Stock are involved

    Play-by-Play? Colour guy?


  135. Mr.Hazard says:

    Red, about the Caps:

    a team that went into the season favoured to win the Stanley Cup for
    some reason I can’t understand, considering they fell to the Canadiens
    in the second round of the playoffs last season.

    Second round??

  136. Timo says:

    Which position requires the most talking? I would hire Carbo for that. His communications skills are outstanding.

  137. Da Hema says:


    Red, Red, Red….


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  138. Timo says:

    YOu don’t have to be a superstar to know a game and make intelligent commentary. Take me for example… 

    Denis and Bouchard are both enjoyable to listen to. The only person who annoys me on RDS is Brunet. Come to think of it, I don’t remember last time I actually watched a game on CBC. And as much as I hate Bell, thank you Bell for RDSHD channel. 

  139. Timo says:

    I remember… I was in DC during the second round. Couldn’t get tickets to see Habs play the Caps. I was really disappointed. 

  140. Habs Fan in Oil Country says:

    I live in Edmonton too and Oilers fans are some of the worst I have even had to be around. My husband and  Iwould rather drive to Calgary to watch a game than sit at Rexall.

  141. shootdapuck says:

    Nothing has changed in Edmonton for the past 30 years.

    I lived there(not by choice) in the glory years of the Eskimos and it was unbearable!

    The media in Edmonton was close to as obnoxious as HNIC+TSN+Sportsnet combined.

    Edmonton never lost they simply ran out of time!

    Happiest day of my CFL watching life was attending the Grey Cup in Montreal where the Als demolished Edmonton ( the famous staples in the shoes game) and then flying back to work in Edmonton with the defeated Eskimos the next day.

    For once loudmouth Edmonton broadcaster Rod Phillips was quiet!



    “The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
    1st star: Henri Richard
    2nd Star: Doug Harvey
    3rd Star: Jacques Plante

    Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3”

  142. NightRyder says:

    Sshh. Details are unimportant when you’re a legend.


  143. ClaytonM says:

    Keith Richards snorts RAID, so I give him the edge if he has to fight cockroaches for world domination.

  144. Chorske says:

    A friend of mine watches the CBC feed but listens to CJAD.

    I have to say, the switch to cable and subscribing to RDS were two of the best decisions I’ve made this year. I can’t describe how happy I am to sit down to a game with my baby. He chews on his toys, I have a beer, and he babbles and I coach from the couch. It’s brilliant.

  145. djsunnyside says:

    How about Larry on one side and Chelios on the other dishing out justice?

  146. rocketsglare says:

    You get no beef from me about Fox News. They have shown themselves to be no friends of the American working

    and middle class.

    Go Habs Go!

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