A fan weighs in

AndrewCohen
Andrew Cohen grew up in the Town of Mount Royal and has been a Canadiens fan since his childhood, a loyalty that has lasted through his residency in the U.S.
Cohen, 45, is a contributing editor  at  The Atlantic and chief legal analyst for CBS News.
These are his thoughts on the season to date.

The End of the Affair

Now that Brian Gionta is likely out for the season, now that the Habs best playoff scorer has been dispatched to Calgary, it is time to throw in the cards on this miserable edition of the team. It’s time to sell, not buy, and it’s time for the most important Canadian sports organization ever to be honest and forthright to its tens of millions of fans around the world. Trust me, we can take it. The Canadiens need to start, today, on making sure its 2012-2013 squad is much more worthy than is the current one of wearing La Sainte-Flannelle. And if that means continuing to break up the core of this group then so be it.

Please let’s be honest with one another. If this edition of Les Glorieux were a horse, it would be declared lame and then mercifully put down. The team is far less than the sum of its parts, the failed creation of an inept and inapt general manager, and, perhaps worst of all, largely unwatchable on the ice.  Everyone seems to be waiting for Andrei Markov to return, as if he were Larry Robinson or Chris Chelios, but that is like waiting for the Messiah, and, anyway, how much difference could a player like Markov make after having been out for nearly two seasons? I try to watch every game that is broadcast here in the United States. They are painful, boring affairs. I remember Canadiens’ teams which would come out on home ice and put the game away in the first period. Now we are thankful if we have a scoreless tie after one. Let me put it another way. The forgettable Habs team of 11 years ago, from the 2000-2001 season, with players like Craig Darby, Juha Lind and Patrick Traverse, were more fun to watch than the current team. And that team got 70 points.

It’s okay to be boring when you are winning. That was Jacques Martin’s professed thing, right? And, Good Lord, the New Jersey Devils won that way for years. But it’s another thing to be boring when you are losing. The Habs play like automatons. Their forwards are too small—Thursday’s trade was an acknowledgement– and they are not nearly gritty enough. The defense is too soft. They are too devoid of passionate players. And club management is only now coming to the realization that the National Hockey League is never going to favor a style that is more European than Canadian. For decades, the Canadiens have valued speed over size. This sorry team is further proof that the balance must be struck differently—look at the Bruins, heck, look at most consistently successful teams these days. Small teams don’t win the Stanley Cup anymore—if they ever did. The so-called “Flying Frenchmen” were protected by men like John Ferguson and Pierre Bouchard. This team has protection, too, but just too many little guys to protect.

Hey, Geoff Molson, I don’t yet follow you on Twitter but I still appreciate your passion. You aren’t that far from offering to your dogged fans a solid team, a team worthy of both wins and respect. But you need to move and move now if you want to expedite the return to glory we’ve been waiting for now for nearly two decades. Let’s not start with the head coach, poor Randy Cunneyworth, whom your general manager Pierre Gauthier threw into the lion’s den last month. Let’s start with the players. Let’s start with Scott Gomez. And let’s be blunt. The Canadiens will never compete for a Stanley Cup so long as they are paying an extraordinary amount of money (what is it, $7 million, which is more than ten times the amount an average Quebecois earns?) to Scott Gomez. He may be the nicest guy in the world. He may be “great in the room,” as the hockey saying goes. But the French journalists are right when they say he adds nothing to the team. Nothing worth that salary, anyway. No organization can succeed when its highest-salaried employee is one of its least efficient. It has nothing to do with Gomez’s personality. It’s just a fact of human nature. His presence on that team is corrosive. So was Cammalleri– and if the Habs had received only a second-round pick and that prospect the trade would have been a step in the right direction.

Continue to cut your losses, Mr. Molson. Get rid of Gomez—no one will care how you do it or what the team gets in return. And while you are at it make plans to move forward without Gauthier. He is not responsible for the horrible Gomez trade, the worst Canadiens’ trade since the Patrick Roy trade of 1995. That brick belongs to Bob Gainey. But Gauther is responsible for signing Andre Markov to a long-term deal without knowing more about how well (or how poorly) the player had recovered from his knee surgery. And Gauthier is responsible for dozens of smaller decisions (Chris Campoli, really?) that have shaped a team that proves weekly that it is going in the wrong direction.  That is not good enough in any town which loves its team. It is certainly not good enough for Montreal and its Canadiens. Gauthier needs to go and the sooner the better. He made Jacques Martin pay for mistakes the coach didn’t make. Now it’s time for the Habs to make Gauthier pay for his own mistakes.

So Gomez needs to go. And so does Gauthier. And nice Hal Gill– to a playoff team. And maybe Tomas Kaberle, too, if he continues to play well enough to earn some interest at the deadline. And if the team ends up with one extra decent draft pick from the sale of these assets, or one tough young forward, it will still be better off than it was this year. I will welcome Brian Gionta back next October. I think he’s an important player. But I will look forward to him being supported by a team that can more meaningfully compete. And that brings me to the scouting department. When does Trevor Timmons get evaluated, I mean really challenged, for his work over the past decade? When he was hired, he was supposed to be the drafting “genius” who created the Senators. But he hasn’t been so great with the Canadiens, has he? Along the same lines, Mr. Molson, I would like to know who the person was, in the Canadiens organization, who said: “Oh, Ryan McDonagh, we can afford to include him in the Gomez trade because he’ll never amount to anything.” That person should be fired.

Which brings me, at last, to the coach.  Poor Cunneyworth. A nice guy, by all accounts, but he never had a chance. In a perfect world, the Canadiens would be able to select a coach without regard to the language the coach spoke. In the real world, however, as even my 78-year-old former Montrealer mother said the other day, “the Canadiens ought to have a coach who can at least speak a little French.” Word. Let’s be honest with one another yet again. By embracing the notion that the head coach of the Montreal Canadiens ought to be able to speak French, the team embraces the notion of affirmative action and at the same time dramatically limits the pool of qualified candidates for the job. I am a big fan of affirmative action (really, you can look it up). But I want the coach of the team to be the best candidate regardless of the language of his birth. It’s sad that cannot happen. But there is a lot about the language debate in Quebec, and its history, that is sad. I hope Cunneyworth stays with the organization— that would send the right message, would it not?

The Canadiens need new management. They need to reshape the size and swagger of the team. Opponents ought to fear playing the Habs, or at least consider it an annoyance, which is another concept that seems to be lacking each time this team takes the ice. If the idiots who run the Boston Bruins could have achieved all this, and I say that with all due respect, there is no excuse for the Canadiens not to have done it now for nearly 20 years. That’s what Geoff Molson must contend with. That’s why it’s so apparent that this current team stinks. And it’s why big changes are going to have to take place, now, before long-time fans of the team can have their confidence restored. This team is unworthy of the playoffs and desperately in need of a top draft pick. We all know that. Now Molson and Company simply have to muster up the courage, creativity and vision to make it happen.

432 Comments

  1. habsfan1001 says:

    Everybody give Rene a chance. At Least PG is going for size and nobody can disagree we need that Rene has scored more goals Cammy in the last 3 years, We need a bigger team and I think this is just a start. Bob Gainey miscalculated big time

    • powdered toastmann says:

      Although I don’t mind this latest move by Gauthier (disregard how it all shook down etc). I still have to agree with Windsor Hab10. (see below)
      Whatever your opinion concerning the Goat’s individual moves/past non moves, there are only 3 teams with a worse winning % than the Habs in a 30 team league (factoring in the loser point) and 2 of those teams have games in hand. Taking that into consideration, I’m thinking that some people are suffering from a nasty case of low-standard-itis.

      How the heck did this post end up here?

    • zorro says:

      I just want our team to be the Intimidator’s for a change, not the team that gets pushed around and Intimidated.
      If we can’t win on the scoreboard, then we can beat them with our knuckles. Get rid of the passangers, and sign the gritty playmakers.

  2. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Hello Geoff Molson, are you there?
    What the hell are you waiting for holding on Pierre Gauthier. Hasn’t he done enough damage? GET RID OF HIM NOW.

    • English is not a Crime says:

      Eller’s a nice addition, Cole’s worked out pretty well, Kaberle’s the top scoring dman on the team, Price has been the team’s best player after he was kept against a public outcry, got a decent return for Cammy considering the circumstances (remember what they got for Roy? Cammy sure as hell isn’t Roy in his prime), Wiz played well as a replacement last year, (was MAB a Gauthier pick up off the scrap heap?).

      Lots of over-reacting considering Gauthier hasn’t had any really terrible moves aside from possibly the Markov resigning when he wasn’t ready to return to the game yet. Even that could ultimately work out if Markov’s ever able to return

      • SlovakHab says:

        Agree with you. While I believe we could have gotten slightly more for MC (as if I had any idea what’s going on), lots of PG work made sense and he is improving the team after Gainey’s debacle – all major contracts expiring, then signing/trading for a trio of smurfs while giving up a top prospect.
        PG has done an above-average job watching the league (I think Feaster made a mistake obtaining Cammy for such an old CGY team with no future) and sees the problem and slowly fixes it – canning JM for his play-not-to-lose style, bringing in size and physical play (Eller, Cole, Borque, Emelin)…

        The worst mistake PG did was not making sure our D is good enough, but perhaps he was mis-informed by Markov’s doctors. I’d give him a B- so far.

      • Stev.R says:

        And its not PG’s fault he couldn’t predict the future. Doctors told him Markov would be ready for season opener. Markov was our best player. He is homegrown, a leader and my opinion, when he was on his game, he was top 5 dmen in the league (offensively and defensively. Best pokecheck in the league).

        PG has also brought in a ton of youth. Look at our team and our prospects. We don’t have a superstar but he has scraped together a pretty good list of guys.

        And he’s done all this with an insane amount of injuries over the past three years.

  3. Chester says:

    Nicely written and I agree with most things except the appeal to G Molson, this is a guy who charges 10 bucks for a glass of his draft. I doubt he cares that much about the team. For him it’s all about making money and being in The Club Of Owners. Of course time will tell. Should be an interesting spring … a long summer, but an interesting spring.

  4. SmartDog says:

    5 QUESTIONS:

    1. THE TRADE. Is this a good trade for us (not how it was done but the result)?
    2. THE ROOM. Is there someone else may not be a good part of ‘the room’?
    3. WHO’s NEXT? Who’s next to be traded?
    4. WHY DO WE LOSE? The odd thing about this team is it rarely gets blown out. We lost a lot of points this year in 1-goal games and ties. If a handful of those went our way, it might be a different season. What in a few words is the reason we didn’t win those games?
    5. MOLSON (LITE)? So far my biggest problem with Mr. Molson is that Gauthier is still here doing what he has done to a sucky result. Does Molson have the will to replace the goat, and bring someone in with a fresh perspective and REALLY rebuild?

    SD
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    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • SlovakHab says:

      1. It is too early to tell. Will hugely depend on the 2nd round pick in 2013. Ask me in 5 years. But let me add that I am not 100% convinced we could get the best we got for Cammalleri.
      2. How can any of us have any idea?
      3. We can only guess. Maybe even PG doesn’t know now, an offer can come up tomorrow.
      4. Because we scored less goals than our opponents. But let’s cry we lost a 6M, 9-goal player who didn’t go to corners to fight for puck once.
      5. How can any of us have the slightest idea? One thing that the fans crying for PG’s firing never mention is this is a below-cap-floor team with all those injuries.

    • English is not a Crime says:

      1 Time will tell
      2 We don’t know as we’re not in the room
      3 Could be anyone, odds would suggest Campoli or Gomez if they can find a taker. Possibly Moen since he’d find more takers and is a UFA
      4 Don’t score as many goals as the opponent (or at least have as many counted)
      5 Can’t blame Gauthier for the results. At least he’s making moves when things go badly as opposed to taking guys for moonlit strolls along the beach.

    • matt jordan says:

      1. Good trade, team got bigger, and hopefully part of the bigger blow up. Maybe PG should’ve had a bidding war for Cammi, but to late now.
      2. Probably Subban.
      3. Moen or AK. But preferably Kaberle, Gomez, Campoli and Weber
      4. The powerplay is half of what is has been for the past few seasons.
      5. We can only hope the Goat is replaced, and soon.

    • ABHabsfan says:

      I’ll play;
      1. Yes
      2.No way to know without being in “the room”
      3. Gill, sorry to say but it’s the right thing for the team. (actually it might not happen by that reasoning)
      4. The “protect the lead” philosophy of JM led to a lot of those. Not enough killer instinct and willingness to crush the opposition IMO
      5. He has too. You can’t ask the guy who made the mess to clean it up. I have little faith in PG, but hey, I’m just a guy in front of his computer on a Friday night!

    • gmd says:

      1. A good trade for us; bigger body, less salary, pretty close in goal production.

      2. PK would be my guess.

      3. Weber.

      4. No killer instinct, sitting on leads, however that will change under RC.

      5. I think he will realize that he damn well better get the will.

    • Stev.R says:

      1. Fair trade that will only look better if we can dump a couple other handcuffing contracts.
      2. No idea
      3. If not Gomez, then it will be nobody unless it’s a bigger deal (Pleks?)
      4. Stop playing the system and then sit back too much. As much as many don’t want to believe it, Martins system was a 2-1-2, and it was the players who always played the 1-2-2 when they had the lead.
      5. Wow, not a biased question at all.

      • SmartDog says:

        Re. your answer to 5. I don’t try to make them all “unbiased”. I try only to not make them not boring and not obvious.

        If I’m showing bias (like with that question) you can just disagree. I sure as hell hope people don’t always agree with me! There’s no fun in that!

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        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • SmartDog says:

      Thanks to all those who didn’t say “how can I know”? Just make a guess!

      My answers:
      1. A bit reluctantly but yes, it’s a good trade. Cami was a GREAT playoff guy, but we won’t see the playoffs this year so why not gain the cap space and the other guy seems decent, plus the pick is good.
      2. My guess would be that PK is actually good in the room (contrary to others). I’m thinking one thing – that Gionta is not as important as he was. Gorges, Cole, Gill, Pleks, Price, Patches Eller, Subi – the new power base.
      3. Next to be traded: Gill or Moen.
      4. We lose because… what Cami said was close, the team has been trained to compete but not to win. They get their asses whupped by (bigger) teams trained to win.
      5. Until the Mol fires Gauthier, he’s not going far enough.
      SD
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      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • stevieray says:

      1. yes
      2. PK …talks the talkl but doesn’t walk the walk
      3. Gill …love the guy but too sloooowwww
      4. Carey seems to always give up a early softie
      5. patience SD ..it will happen

    • Mad Habber says:

      1) Well from what I gathered Bourque is a lot like AK but with better numbers. If he can contribute to the forcheck and score occasionally and considering he has 13 goals, I would say right now it’s a plus for us. I have a feeling Cammalleri will tare it up in Calgary though, and Gauthier will be shown the door.

      2) I’ll pass. Has it truely been confirmed Cammalleri was bad for the room? I really don’t see what the fuss ‘loser mentality’ thing came from.

      3) Gomez? Yeah right. I know everyone likes him, but I wouldn’t be opposed to Plekanec being traded.

      4) Pretty much the whole team is playing sub-par. Goal scorers aren’t scoring, Carey isn’t making key stops, and the defense makes to many goofy errors.

      5)Let me ignore your question, since it is loaded. My big problem with Mr. Molson is he takes public opinion to seriously. If he is gonna replace Gauthier it has to be with someone that can stand against public opinion and do what they think is best with the team, and the need to have the full confidence that they can do their job without outside interference. Similar to what Burke demanded when he took over the Leafs.

    • Clay says:

      1. THE TRADE. Great trade. Now we need to shed even more salary and go for a lottery pick.
      2. THE ROOM. All fingers point to PK, but who knows. I have to think Gomez is a problem though, when they try to reconcile his contribution with his production and effort.
      3. WHO’s NEXT? No one should be untouchable…but please let it be Gomez!
      4. WHY DO WE LOSE? The team plays not to lose, rather than to win. It is a culture of losing, and in that Cammy was correct.
      5. MOLSON (LITE)? Yes – fire the goat and bring in a seasoned and well respected GM.

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      ☞ “Talent is a gift from God, but you only succeed with hard work. Yvan was proof of that.” – Jean Beliveau. ☜

  5. HabFab says:

    Patrick Holland twits one of the joys of being a Hab prospect;

    PattyShwayz You know it’s a good pregame nap when you pick up another 300 followers.

  6. SlovakHab says:

    Leblanc scored 2 goals in 2:31 to tie the Bulldogs score from 0-2 to 2-2.
    Now 4-3 Bulldogs in the 2nd intermission.

  7. MrNax says:

    I really can’t stand Diaz or Webber. Both of them are terrible and have no business playing in the NHL.

    • Stev.R says:

      What! Are you sure? Somebody should tell the league that they have some liars in their midst. Thank god you brought this to every one’s attention. You’re a hero

      • MrNax says:

        Since sarcasm is (likely) the only language you comprehend I’ll indulge you. Thanks so much for your comment! I really appreciated how articulate you were. You’re MY hero.

    • Mark C says:

      Are you sure you don’t like him? Yout haven’t even figured out his last name yet.

    • ABHabsfan says:

      Weber should be a winger, full time, no sometimes d. All the time winger and shoot, shoot, shoot.

    • Phil C says:

      Weber is 23, which is still very young for a defensemen, they often need longer to develop. But I agree that he is not quite NHL ready on the defensive side of his game.

      Diaz has been averaging over 19 minutes a game as a rookie. Only Subban and Gorges have logged more minutes. This means that he has been playing against the other team’s top lines fairly regularly, yet he is only -2, which is not bad on a losing team, especially for a rookie. He has been killing penalties and playing the second wave of the powerplay and has a decent one-timer. He makes great first passes out of the zone and has shown creativity offensively. He is third behind Gorges and Gill in blocked shots, and 28th overall in the league with 78. You may not like him, but I think this season could have been even worse if he had not stepped up to be the Habs’ number three guy.

  8. manu07 says:

    I agree P.McG knows his hockey. Would not be a bad choice running the show in MTL.

    • Bozo McBozo says:

      I think before anyone does anything incredibly stupid everybody with a vested interest in this team go out and get shit-faced and come back three months year later with a clear mind!

      • Chris says:

        Am I the only one here that LOVES the fact that the best advice, by a country mile, to have come out of all the navel-gazing the past two days is by the Bozo McBozo alias? :)

        I’d even settle for two days later…the panic is wild right now.

        • HabFab says:

          Don’t encourage him Chris ;)
          He will soon be telling us he has all the answers…Wait…never mind, too late!!

          • Bozo McBozo says:

            I just long for the day when I can don a Habs jersey at pickup and not be the subject of ridicule!

        • Bozo McBozo says:

          Ah Chris, you know me and my tribe all too well. Rather than make yet another bad decision on the heels of a bad decision, why don’t we just take time to think this thing through out once and for all? Isn’t Glen Sather’s success with the Rangers enough reason to take our time and get it right for once in two decades?

          • Chris says:

            Couldn’t agree more.

            The Habs aren’t the first team to implode. Heck, they aren’t even the first HABS team the past few years to implode…ugh.

            Washington. Tampa Bay. Anaheim.

            We’re not alone. I just hope that the franchise doesn’t make any catastrophically stupid moves while reacting to fan and media pressure. If we’re going to suck, suck with dignity and scoop up that draft pick at the end of the season.

            Make some tweaks. See if Glen Sather feels bad yet and offers Ryan McDonagh back to us for Scott Gomez.

            Look forward to next season. The sum is not as good as the collection of parts this season, which leads me to believe that a turnaround is conceivable. Getting a nice high pick this year sure would help, a la Boston with Kessel or Philly with van Riemsdyk.

            Eller, Pacioretty, Subban, Emelin, Price…we’ve got some good young pieces. Gorges, Cole, Plekanec and Gionta give them a leadership core.

  9. Bozo McBozo says:

    This team, like many other franchises in the cap era, must “tank for glory.” The management needs to adopt a cyclical approach to conducting its affairs once and for all. We can go back and forth about the appropriate periodicity of the cycle, but it must be adopted and quickly. The alternative is another two decades of sad-ass ineptitude. I can help them construct a solid plan if they are interested. Think of it as the hockey equivalent of “Money Ball.”

    • HabFab says:

      Heck, I offered you the proceeds of one exhibition game to fix this mess about 3 seasons ago and you didn’t complete the assignment!

    • Stev.R says:

      PG knows the moneyball trick. Get players who perform like stars, but get paid less. But where do you get them? RFA’s!!! It takes time to get your hands on enough good ones though. Has nobody noticed how Eller, DD, Weber, White, Pacioretty, Blunden, Diaz, Emelin, Subban, Gorges, Gallagher, Bournival, Beaulieu, Ellis, Tinnordi and now Holland are part of PGs original plan. He said so a year and a half ago. But you got to give them some time to develop.

    • Chris says:

      I’m not convinced.

      Chicago had to be almost bankrupt and suck for a decade to get their glory.

      Pittsburgh skipped the “almost” and went directly to bankrupt and sucked for half a decade.

      Detroit, Anaheim and Boston avoided the tank by making some astute free agent signings and/or trades.

      I just can’t see the media, fans, players or even the league itself adopting a happy view if Montreal, one of the 3 richest teams in the NHL, dumped salary to spend to the cap floor for a couple of seasons to get down to the appropriate level of suckitude to get a top-3 pick.

      I’m resigned to praying for a home-run draft pick out of the blue (a la Zetterberg or Datsyuk) or a truly elite free agent finally coming to Montreal.

      • Bozo McBozo says:

        Chris, the Habs have the financials that make “suck for glory” a freaking lay up with the right management. And, having done it once with success, we might never have to do it again! Man, with the right guys at the helm, we could turn these geezers into Man United!

        • HardHabits says:

          Amass the goods. Win some Cups. Trade the aging veterans for picks and let the cycle begin, with maybe a tank year spread out here and there just for good measure.

          Even back in the day the Habs rather let Lafleur and Robinson walk rather than trade them for picks.

        • Chris says:

          That’s the insane thing…there is SO much revenue potential for this team if they could just stop sucking.

          I had secret dreams that Crosby, having gotten his Stanley Cup out of the way early with the Penguins, would somehow secure a trade to Montreal in 2013 or 2014. As a kid who idolized the Habs, can you imagine HIS earning potential if he was the guy to lead them back to glory? He might as well just walk on water.

          But with the concussion business, I’m not sure what his long-term situation is going to be. Heck, you even have the “anonymous” sources in the Penguins room supposedly sniping that Crosby is milking it, so maybe my scenario is actually coming true and I just didn’t know it! ;)

  10. Le Jadester says:

    I don’t know, but I really like the cut of Blunden’s jib.
    Ya he probably shouldn’t be playing on the top 6, but he’s a keeper for me on the bottom 6 forsure.
    The guy busts his arse off every shift and hits everything in sight.
    Was unlucky not to score yesterday too, Thomas had a horseshoe in his a$$ again.
    I thought the way we played the Broonz last night wasn’t all that bad.

    Either way, I like the energy the guy brings. Just like Ryan White last year.

    Habs, OLE !

  11. doogie says:

    I’m convinced that Patrick Roy brings passion and excellence back to this organization.

    Hire him before the new NHL team in QC grab Patrick. It’s only another yr down the road before les Nordiques resurface. So put him Hamilton for a yr and do this right. Build the franchise with a passion for winning!

    Pair the coach- PR33 with a smart hockey man like Dale Tallon and let’s get going in the right direction!

    Enough of the knee jerk reactive management of this franchise.

  12. alfieturcotte says:

    FIRE GAUTHIER, FIRE GAUTHIER, FIRE GAUTHIER

    How could this mickey mouse of a GM actually still be employed? How many mistakes does he need to make before the Molson’s finally say, No Mas?

    Markov, Kaberle, Campoli, loss of Dominic Moore (playing with Lecavalier for $1.5MM), giving up on Pouliot (blossoming for $1MM in Boston), loss of 6″6 Ryan O’Byrne, trading a 2nd round pick to draft 3 spots in order to pick Tinordi, and now the latest……..no shopping of Cammalleri and instead trades him probably to the first bid he received…….for not equal value (any NHL GM out there will tell you that Cammalleri is a sniper and the better player).

    He has reduced this once proud franchise to the Colorado Rockies and NJ devils of the late 70’s and early 80’s.

    Hire a GM that actually can think, anyone please but we must

    FIRE GAUTHIER, FIRE GAUTHIER, FIRE GAUTHIER

    • Stev.R says:

      Pouliot sucks, Halpern was better than Moore, Campoli is no biggie, Kaberle has played well and our PP looks better, Bournival is 100x better than O’Byrne, nobody cares about the trade up for Tinnordi, everyone seems to like the Cammy trade, and you’re a cry baby.

      Markov, just wait and see. I have faith in him.

      • Mark C says:

        I can’t believe anyone is getting worked up about O’Byrne these days. Bournival scored another two goals tonight, he’s a goal a game player in the Q.

      • DorvalTony says:

        Metro was better than Halpern – and Moore was too.

        ——————————–
        “Okay, everybody take a Valium.”

        • ABHabsfan says:

          Plus Halpern deflected in the winning goal against the Bruins in game 7 OT last year, just sayin’. ( I don’t actually think it was his fault, just playin’ along)

        • 24moreCups says:

          +1 I loved Metro and he still loves Montreal apparently from a interview I read, I wish we kept him.

          Metro was always leading the team in power play goals for a while when he was with us, seemed like a great team guy and at a cheap price.

      • alfieturcotte says:

        Pouliot is a very talented player; Moore is so much better than Metro and Halpern together (check the stats), and last I checked, Bournival was not even in the AHL yet….how can you possibly say a smallish Q player is better than someone who plays 15-20 minutes a game in the NHL??? Anyway kid, Bournival was a non factor in the Juniors. Markov has cost the team $10mm this year (his salary, Kaberle’s, and Campoli’s). PG is a joke, and you are a fool for not seeing it!

    • HabFab says:

      Witch witch witch!!
      At least you still have your Yankees to cheer for.
      Some of us are stuck with a team that the ” be good or be French” choice isn’t a positive one.
      “Sigh”
      At least I got to celebrate 13 Cups, was hoping for at least one more but not looking good.

  13. manu07 says:

    Considering PK is fighting with teammates at practice as he did last year leads me to believe he may not be liked in the room either. I would like to see pk stay on the Habs personally. Where as cammi although I liked him he may have been a cancer in the room.

  14. twocents says:

    For those who doubt the fact this deal was in the works prior to Cammy’s indiscretion, how do you explain his no-trade clause being dealt with in such short order? As someone has suggested this had been done in advance and likely informed Cammy’s Wednesday comments. The timing of the trigger pull was likely informed by the Wednesday comments, but the chamber was already loaded folks.

    Gauthier lacks the class that Gainey brought to this position, of that there is no doubt, but his moves have been far from what anyone can claim to be disastrous. They have generally been shrewd and executed with the type of responsiveness many here criticized Gainey for not possessing. That type of responsiveness often goes hand in hand with a lack of sensitivity and a deficiency in classiness.

    • Cammalleri’s NTC has him give 3 teams in each conference he can’t be traded to before training camp. His NTC wouldn’t even come into the equation with the deal.

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      • RiverviewCanadien says:

        Andrew, where have you been?

        I have missed your posts bud.

        • SmartDog says:

          Really??

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          Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

          • RiverviewCanadien says:

            Yeah, I have had some good threads with AB. Never any issues with him, and I felt he always had a good sense when it comes to hockey.

            I believe there are some here (still here?) that have had issues with him, but I always felt we were respectful to each when we may/may not have agreed on things.

            A lot of posters here are trolls now, love to stir the pot and resort to name calling. Nice once in a while to read something with sustenance some real content or point of view, rather than the garbage that is dumped here on a daily basis. I felt Andrew could do that.

          • HabFab says:

            @river. You must have missed the blow up by some posters with the Gazette people over Hickey’s article on Fleury. About a dozen or two “stormed out” and promised to never return…sigh!

          • RiverviewCanadien says:

            @HabFan

            I remember logging in and checking the goings on that day, the threads started to spiral out of control right from the get go. I stayed away from that mess.

            That is too bad. There used to be some great debates. Sure they got heated at times, but I never really felt they ‘crossed’ the line frequently. Now it seems that everyday, there is some kid playing with their mom and dad’s computer.

      • Stev.R says:

        It was 7 teams i’m pretty sure

      • twocents says:

        Cool, thanks for the deets.

        Regardless, I don’t really care. What I care about is whether or not this team is better and that I will assess when this lineup has a stretch of games. It’s that simple for me, I get no pleasure in predicting how a move will pan out. On paper I like what this move does for the team. But when it comes to hockey the paper part is far less interesting for me.

        Maybe several players are relieved by Cammy’s parting and we’ll see a boost for several players. Maybe Bourque will flourish. Who knows? I certainly don’t. But, I look forward to finding out… by watching games, not by running my mouth off in advance. Sorry if that sounds harsh, and let me be clear it’s not directed at you, Andrew. In fact, your mouth has been far from running lately.;o) Good to read you!

    • Stev.R says:

      Cammy makes a list of 7 teams he will not accept being traded to before the season. The negotiations started a month ago. It wasn’t talking every day, but a phone call now and then. They had the trade pretty much finalized last week, but then Bourque was suspended. They made the deal yesterday so that 4 of the 5 games Bourque was suspended for would be burnt off, and it would give Bourque 2 days to get to MTL and get somewhat settled in. They were going to scratch Cammy but the lineup was already in once they found out that the conference call was for surely happening last night. They pulled him after the second because they couldn’t finish the conference call with him on the ice.

      The more you know.
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  15. habs-fan-84 says:

    Lastly, what’s the deal with people whining about PGs class! LOL really? Now some of you are concerned about class. I’m sorry but this is beyond ridiculous. This is professional sports, they’re big boys, with even bigger salaries (coaching staff included). Get over it, if a coach or Assistant is fired on game day, WHO CARES! They’ll get over it, seemingly easier than some of you. If a player is traded mid-game, again WHO CARES! Circumstances dictated that that was the case. Sure didn’t seem to bother Cammy much.

    If some of you had nothing complain about you wouldn’t be happy. PS, I enjoyed complaining about the whiners ;)

    • DorvalTony says:

      Gandhi Gauthier is out of his depth and universally panned by the league’s GMs, journalists and others in the know. This was a trade hastened in panic by Cammer’s outburst. Mid game. What a joke. Lost in space. He’s down to weeks now.

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      “Okay, everybody take a Valium.”

      • Stev.R says:

        You don’t know why or what happened. Neither do these people “in the know”. Bob Mckenzie and Darren Dreger, the top guys out there have already explained what happened. Quit the witch hunt for a night

      • habs-fan-84 says:

        whether the trade was done in haste is irrelevant. We just picked up a guy who has produced MORE points than Cammy over the past 2 yrs., is bigger and addresses a major short-coming on this team, namely, the ability to score greasy goals; and we got him for HALF THE PRICE.

        Will Cammy go to Calgary and light it up? Probably, but he certainly wasn’t going to do it here with this group of players, unable to do the dirty work and feed him the puck from the corners like Iginla is going to do. Iginla will do all the work and Cammy will get all the credit. Big deal, good trade, accept it.

  16. CF says:

    I can’t say I’ve seen him play, but he’s got size, and was a first round pick so he must be able to skate. Played in the WJC too.
    I believe someone else mentioned this, go get Colton Gillies PG, if he doesn’t work out, send him to Hamilton. It’s worth the shot.

  17. zak says:

    PG has brought this once proud franchise to the joke of the NHL. Fired a coach before a game, fired a coach after a game and now has traded a player in the middle of a game.. On the positive side though, he speaks french.

    Hire the best regardless of language

    • CF says:

      Read the article from Dreger on the Toronto Sports Network, Calgary GM confirmed the trade had to be done then, at that moment. No reflection on the GM.

    • English is not a Crime says:

      Players get pulled off the ice because they’ve been traded all the time. I’ve seen it several dozen times over the years. Coaches get fired all the time as well, I watched Carlyle get canned after a win before the zamboni ever even got off the ice. over dramatizing things and blowing them out of proportion. You’ve been listening to Leaf fans that have been waiting far too long to have even a slight lead on the Habs so they could try taunting them for a change.

    • ABHabsfan says:

      I fully expect someone to get traded on Sunday during the game, to the Rangers

  18. habs-fan-84 says:

    I really don’t understand what everyone is freaking out about. For starters we just got better after this trade. It is now coming out, that Cammy was definitely not well liked in the dressing room.

    If you’ve already mentally prepared yourself for the fact that we don’t make the playoffs then life will be much happier for you. If we don’t make the playoffs, we get a better draft pick. If we do make the playoffs, great, lots of young players get valuable playoff experience.

    In any event this team has a solid foundation poured. The back end is essentially re-built. Over the next couple years we will see: Price, Gorges, Subban, Emelin, Beaulieu, Tinordi, Diaz, Markov (?).

    It is the offense that needs a bit of work, however, I do not think we’re that far off. Pacioretty, Eller, Desharnais will continue to develop and mature. Perhaps I’m nuts, but, if we somehow miraculously get rid of Gomez over the next couple months, either through trade (unlikely) or being sent down to the minors (more likely) we suddenly have a whole lot more cap space to address our shortcomings.

    Sorry, just me looking through my habs coloured glasses :)

    • Chris says:

      Cap space isn’t necessarily all that is needed…if you look ahead to the projected free agent market, the pickings are awfully slim. Somebody is going to make Zach Parise a very, very rich man because he is essentially the only impact offensive player available this summer.

      • twocents says:

        Chris, it’s needed to sign our young core.

        Of course we don’t need that much, but it allows us to take more on in a trade and that’s a handy state to be in when deals are being discussed sometimes.

        • Chris says:

          No question. But I think we could have signed the core even with the space we had. Now, there shouldn’t be any worries.

          I don’t think Subban is going to be getting mad cash after this season (he’s got to show he can be consistent). Price should be due for a big raise, but not obscene.

          Kostitsyn is the big questionmark, but the money is certainly there for him now, should the team choose to keep him.

      • habs-fan-84 says:

        I agree, but would sure be nice to have some dry powder.

  19. The Jackal says:

    I keep watching games and hoping “this is the game they turn it around”.

  20. matt jordan says:

    from Puck Daddy:

    Shameful Behavior from Pierre Gauthier

    When it rains in Montreal it apparently pours, and the huge downpour of embarrassing behavior — canning an assistant coach for no readily apparent reason, trying to get a coach fired for not speaking a language, the owner apologizing to fans for hiring that coach, protests and more — just wasn’t enough.

    Now the Habs have traded an admittedly under-performing, big-contract player after he had the audacity to say that the team, which currently sits 12th in the East, only three points ahead of the dead-last Islanders, has a losing mentality. Please note, however, that including last night’s game in Boston, the Habs have won just three of their last 12.

    Guys have, of course, been traded for being malcontents before, and Cammalleri certainly isn’t the last, but Pierre Gauthier, frantically grabbing at the emergency cord on his parachute for any maneuver that will save his job, did a pretty crummy thing in pulling his $6 million man from the third period of a game against the team’s archrival, sending him back to the hotel to await further instructions like he’s in Mission: Impossible 5.

    The optics on this look bad because the move came just hours after the controversial statement (allegedly ginned up to be more than it was by some members of the Montreal media after the quotes were translated to French) but apparently the trade had been discussed for a month or so.

    And really, that makes the decision to pull him from the game look worse. It’s a pretty bad thing to do to a guy on your payroll to yank him from a game you let him start. I understand they didn’t want to run the risk of him getting hurt in the third period but the point is, why let him play the game at all? It’s unlikely that Jay Feaster picked up the phone in the second intermission and said, “Y’know what? We’ll take Cammalleri now.”

    Regardless of the circumstances leading up to the decision to pull Cammalleri from the game, this looks like petty payback from Gauthier for innocuous comments, but I’m not sure what we’re supposed to expect from a guy who has excelled at making himself look bad in recent weeks.

    This is a total gong show, and the way everyone in that city has been behaving lately, it’s richly deserved.

  21. ABHabsfan says:

    Eloquently written little essay, though apparently in a hurry considering the name spelling and math mistakes. ( unless the average salary in Quebec is $700K). Basically the same message; blow this Sh*t up.
    There are some points we all agree on; the Gomez issue, a new GM. What I get a little sick of is the ” we have to sign a bunch of meatheads” angle. Really? The Habs organization has lost it’s way recently and filling the squad with one dimensional pugilists only continues the same path. The Habs are about class, elegant (yes I said that) hockey, and ,above all, speed. The Habs have always been the fastest team in the NHL. You do need toughness and guys who make the opposition think twice but not a whole line-up of them. The Habs can beat the Bruins with speed, showed it last year winning 7 out of 13 games overall, but the only one some people remember is the 8-6 so-called Beantown Beatdown. If you like Bruins’ hockey so much, hey cheer for the Bruins. They do have 6 Stanley Cups in roughly the same period that the Habs have won 24.
    I’m not saying this club doesn’t need fixing, it does. And yesterday’s trade was a positive step. Let’s just keep the identity, the identity that so many of us identified with when we became fans in the 70s (or earlier, ’78 Cup is the first I can remember). Fast highly skilled hockey that brought you out of your seat, and the toughness to keep other teams honest. That’s the Habs I want to see

  22. manu07 says:

    I know TSN wants trades to happen on deadline day for there ridiculous whole day show… But I think trades for the Habs need to happen now. And let’s start this rebuild.

  23. SmartDog says:

    Cohen’s right. And he’s a better writer than most of us. But he ain’t sayin’ nuthin’ we ain’t said already.

    Get rid of Gomez. Get rid of PG (make HIM pay for his mistakes). SELL some guys. Get some good prospects and picks. Deal with Markov. Add toughness. DO IT ALL! No more just pushing food around on your plate… vegetables at that.

    Be brave Mr. Molson. Do what NEEDS to be done. It’s not a little, it’s a LOT of mess PG has made. Get rid of him please FIRST of all.

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    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  24. krob1000 says:

    If we continue down this path…we have a bigger cheaper replacement for Cammi, we can get something for at lest 2 of our d, we can shed Gomez and our youth core will be a real year older(as they are actually getting icetime this year). We will likely acquire a handful of picks, add Markov, Gio (been out most of the year), White and 7 million in cap space from Gomez shedding…all in all it ain’t bad and has the earmarkings of a rather quick transition. Make a good signing or two…have some luck on the injury front and we are a playoff team again next year….

    • Le Jadester says:

      I agree too.
      If it can be how the Phlyers did it a couple of years ago, then that would be pretty good.

      Habs, OLE !

    • twocents says:

      I’m with ya, Rob.

    • JF says:

      Yes. We also need Molson to make the right decisions about coach and GM.

      This season’s disaster could end up being a good thing if it opens people’s eyes to the changes that need to be made and signals the end of Gainey’s blueprint of speed and skill without size and toughness. I don’t think anyone can any longer cherish the illusion that the team is close to being a contender.

  25. Stev.R says:

    Alright firends, its time to cut the bullshit. We all know we need a big star centreman who can score 90+ points. And we all know one is available but we’re just too afraid to say his name. He is 6’3” and 230 lbs of straight mythical Russian talent. Everybody, its time to get back on the Yashin train. Next stop… GLORY!

  26. matt jordan says:

    this article is exactly how i feel about this sorry team.

    except for the Timmins part that is.

    Timmins is the only reason this team made the playoffs the last few years.

  27. English is not a Crime says:

    All three captains miss the entire season and we’re all surprised and horrified that the team’s not in first place and figure the entire works needs to be blown up again to start all over from scratch because everyone’s useless. At least we kept our expectations realistic.
    Most teams losing their 3 captains/3 highest paid players for the entire year would likely be out of the playoffs, why is it such a shock that the Habs are in the same boat right now?

    • matt jordan says:

      Are you talking about Gomez?
      Gomez is one of the worst players in the league, and i base this one his points per game and the fact he hasn’t scored in about 50 games.

      Gomez being hurt is a benefit to this middling team.

      • English is not a Crime says:

        A team loses it’s 3 captains, it loses it’s veteran leadership that helps lead them out of the funk when they get into it. Whining about Gomez’ money doesn’t mean he’s not still a successful NHL veteran with Cup rings and a wealth of leadership to offer. He can’t offer it while injured and unable to be with the team. Gionta and Markov are also major components that are missing. Adding to that, it’s 20M worth of salary in three players missing from the roster so the team is playing short handed in that regard as well. Name a team that can lose it’s 3 highest paid players (even if one feels one of them is overpaid) and still have a lot of success with no struggles whatsoever. Not going to happen.

        • matt jordan says:

          A few years ago, Gomez was a successful NHL veteran. Gomez is not a successful NHL veteran anymore. If you watched him play you’d realize that he …. sucks.

          It blows my mind that people still support Gomez. HE HASN”T SCORED A GOAL IN A YEAR. HE GETS PAID TO SCORE GOALS.
          MIke Blunden has scored. So has Cam Ward.

          Yes the Canadiens have had injuries this year, but it still doesn’t take away from the fact they Habs are three points out of last in the east, Gomez is an AHLer, and the rest of the hockey world is laughing at how pathetic this team is right now.

          • English is not a Crime says:

            He hasn’t played most of that year and he’s never been paid to score goals. He’s paid to set up goals and to play strong at both ends of the ice. Missing Gomez, Markov and Gionta, along with the cap space those three chew up is a big loss. The hockey world is laughing at how ridiculous people like yourself are behaving in over-reacting about it all. It’s not the end of the world, it’s not the apocalypse, it’s not the worst season in the history of the sport, it’s just a bunch of fans jumping on and off the bandwagon and running around with their hair on fire because they have unrealistic expectations.

          • Mad Habber says:

            Gomez doesn’t get paid to set-up goals. The reason Gomez has the contract he does is thanks to a career year (I think he scored 30+ that year), and Glen Sather, who after so many years of watching budget in Edmonton lost his mind in New York.

  28. Le Jadester says:

    Looking for some thoughts, questions or concerns with picking up Colton Gillies off of waivers from Minnesota ?

    Could be a good opportunity for the goat unless the canes, isles or tampon gets him, no ?

    Habs, OLE !

  29. Top Corner says:

    I dont know who this guy is , but I know who PG is….and he is still GM …..and that bothers me ……

    (and I think it bothers the guy too !!)

  30. manu07 says:

    I think Molson should fire PG. just like he got rid of everyone this year. Like ask him for lunch and right when he takes a bite of his food say. “your fired”, Then send him on his way.

  31. Toe Blake says:

    The boys and I took a formal vote up here in the great beyond. And, without giving away how certain individuals felt, there was an overwhelming majority for tanking!

    • English is not a Crime says:

      Stupid attitude, that sort of thing becomes contagious and it’s hard as hell to get back out of it. I don’t mind losing if they are trying, I will never accept losing because they don’t want to win though.

      • HardHabits says:

        They are trying to win. The ghosts wont let them. They voted on tanking. Then when the Habs get enough prospects and an offensive star or two the ghosts will start tipping things in their favour again. As it stands any help they’d have to give this sorry lot would make things too obvious. So it’s a tank driven by the great beyond.

        • English is not a Crime says:

          The pick in the draft that would help them the most is currently rated 4th anyway. If he slides even 2 or 3 slots, then he’s sitting right where they’d current;y be drafting as it is. All the complaints about tiny forwards with no heart and everyone seems to think Yakopov is the solution??? All 5’9, 170 lbs of him with his terrible attitude and lack of willingness to compete for the puck? Naw, I’d rather have Faksa, who has shown a world of compete and has constantly risen up the charts all year long now, a 6’3 C at that. There are a whack of centers with some size to them sitting 11 through 14 in the chart as well, with 7 dmen sitting in the rest of the spots from 3 thru 10.

          They’re not catching Columbus, I’m not all that sold on Grigorenko, they have plenty of D prospects already so there’s no reward for finishing anywhere higher than 14th or so on the draft order anyway.

        • English is not a Crime says:

          Updated rankings from Central Scouting –
          1 YAKUPOV SARNIA OHL 5′ 10.5″ 189 RW
          2 GRIGORENKO QUEBEC QMJHL 6′ 3.25″ 200 C
          3 MURRAY EVERETT WHL 6′ 0.5″ 201 D
          4 FAKSA KITCHENER OHL 6′ 3.0″ 202 C
          5 RIELLY MOOSE JAW WHL 5′ 11.5″ 190 D
          6 MAATTA LONDON OHL 6′ 1.5″ 202 D
          7 DUMBA RED DEER WHL 5′ 11.75″ 183 D
          8 REINHART EDMONTON WHL 6′ 3.75″ 207 D
          9 TROUBA USA U-18 USHL 6′ 2.0″ 193 D
          10 POULIOT PORTLAND WHL 5′ 11.25″ 186 D
          11 GAUNCE BELLEVILLE OHL 6′ 2.0″ 215 C
          12 GIRGENSONS DUBUQUE USHL 6′ 1.5″ 198 C
          13 MATTEAU USA U-18 USHL 6′ 1.5″ 210 C
          14 SISSONS KELOWNA WHL 6′ 1.0″ 189 C

      • Bozo McBozo says:

        Rather than go on a rant, you are just flat our wrong. Your type of thinking is directly responsible for this fucking mess to begin with!

  32. remi_10069 says:

    some of what he says makes sense but some of it is wrong (Gomez makes over 100x the average Quebecois). Fire PG for the RC move and for signing Markov when he knew he would never play again but I’m not sure he had a choice.

    Gionta is a problem, figure it out. He’s the f’n captain and the team is out of control so…he’s a good player but let another team enjoy him. Plek too.

    Playing against the Habs is fun for other teams because they are such a bunch of pussies. It ends up being contagious just like winning. No chance anyone is going to step up with PK acting the way he does. If BG had any control he would have slapped Suban up the head until he gets that good NHL players don’t act like him. Only respect I have for Plek is the scrap, he had enough.

    Sooooooooo, here is my solution, hope Molson is reading

    Fire PG because you have to
    Trade PK because you have to, he’s a punk and he won’t change
    Trade Pleks because he a midget with a turtleneck and a goatie
    Trade Weber because he’s crap and has a big mouth
    Get rid of Campoli because he’s not NHL caliber
    Get rid of Darche because he’s not NHL caliber
    Get rid of Diaz because he’s a midget

    Maximize what you can get for that…I suspect you can pull a Cammi-Bourque type move for Pleks and PK should get you a lot. Perhaps to Philly for VanReems…

    pipes

    • zaq007 says:

      I needed a good laugh today, thanks!

    • alestar says:

      Sorry bud, but that is the dumbest post I’ve read in a while…get rid of PK and Pleks?

      Really…? really?

      XXIV…and counting

      • remi_10069 says:

        Really, really? Yes pal. PK is a total disaster. Do teams that win the cup have guys who act like he does? No because his teamates don’t like him and you need a strong team to win. Plek is a good player but we need size and grit and he can bring actual value in return just like cammi did. Do you have any suggestions on how the team can be improved? Would like to hear them.

        pipes

  33. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …so, this Andrew Cohen must be Boone’s brother-in-law …because He ain’t said anythin’ that many here have not said better and more articulately a thousand times previously

    …and, I think I’m coming out of retirement, leave B.C., to return to work in Quebec …cause those average salaries today sure make Quebec’s tax rates appear extremely inconsequential :)

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • gumper says:

      I’d have to take exception to the “more articulately”. I think he’s packaged these ideas (well-hashed over by the commentariat) very nicely.

    • HabFab says:

      Glad to see you posting again, noticed you missing again. Are you writing a thesis on Canadian Health Care? :)

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …feeling significant reprieve from the previous pain for the moment Frank ..have another operation coming soon (hopefully the last, he says battered and bruised :) ) …I really want nothing more to do with the Canadian Health Care system …or,any other countries’ health care systems :(

        …the Canadian Health Care system reminds Me too much of the Montreal Canadiens at this time :)

        Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
        http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • remi_10069 says:

      no kidding…it kills the whole article with a screwup like that…why the hell do we give a shit what this guy thinks anyway? I suppose it works as we read it but…HIO should concentrate on improving the technical aspects of the site and let us worry about the content

      pipes

  34. Mark C says:

    Michaël Bournival with 2 goals and 2 assists, Morgan Ellis with a goal and assist after 2 periods. Bournival is now averaging a goal a game this season in the Q.

    Edit: Louie now has 2 goals tonight.

  35. manu07 says:

    Ryan McDonagh would be nice to have back right now. That was a terrible trade

  36. manu07 says:

    HardHabits, I think Crawford may be appointed coach next season. I have heard rumors over Roy and Carbo. I think Crawford would be a good choice.

    • remi_10069 says:

      Agreed. He’s a nasty SOB, basically order a hit on the ice and got away with it. I like it..

      pipes

    • English is not a Crime says:

      The clown that put a bounty on Steve Moore’s head and then giggled when they were carting him off on a stretcher? Umm pass, he’s a d-bag and shouldn’t have a job anywhere near hockey after that stunt.

      • remi_10069 says:

        I don’t like the fact that he got his neck broken, nor did MC or TB but he deserved to get jumped. I am old school and like to see guys playing hockey the way that I play it and the way that I live my life. Play hard, respect the people around you and don’t act like a &^%$. If you do and you get slapped then…

        Major reason I hate PK. He’s a total *&^% and has no problem acting like it.

        pipes

    • HardHabits says:

      Hilarious. Brutal. But still funny.

      Nice Yakupov video. Sick skills and great checker for his height and weight. Habs have little if any chance of drafting him.

      Maybe the Habs pick up another 1st pick by trading somebody else and go in with two picks in round 1 instead of none for a change. As if the Habs would ever do such a thing.

      This could still get worse before it gets better.

  37. dpthehabsfan says:

    Would just like to point out that $7 million is not 10 times what the average Québécois makes. It’s over a 100 times what an average québécois makes. Good article….but do your math.

  38. manu07 says:

    Sorry I meant one prospect.

  39. manu07 says:

    At least I e prospect looks promising. Who knows what PG will do next. I agree, PG has to go sooner rather then later

  40. ludwig44 says:

    What is the delay in firing PG now?!? We cannot afford to have this loon run the GM duties past the trade deadline. What a mess………

  41. JasonM says:

    I stopped reading where it mentioned he was from Mount Royal.

  42. Psycho29 says:

    At least this guy didn’t call the coach “Cunningham”

  43. WestHab says:

    That piece was depressing probably because it’s true. Watching sports should be a escape from day to day life. Right now it feels like I need a escape from the Habs. But I’m going to stick my head in the sand and put on my rose colered glasses. What the hell, I still have a job and a great family so I can afford to just watch more. The worst that happens is we miss the playoffs and pick up a higher draft pick this June.

    I live in Calgary and have watched Bourque and I have always said he’d look good in Montreal. He has skill sets missing now, so you never know.

    “Merci beaucoup.” Randy Cunnyworth

  44. Ian Cobb says:

    “Boys and girls! We don’t need anyone
    to tell us that we do not have a shot at the Cup this year. We, the most
    perceptive and most informative hockey fans in the world, have been
    treated and shown how this game is to be played and won for 100
    years. We recognize quality and expect performance, from management
    and throughout the organization …” So get on with it.

  45. manu07 says:

    Speaking of prospects. What happened to Danny Kristo. He was a talented kid. I remember in the world juniors for the US a few years back. What happened to him? Did he not develop into much?

    • HabFab says:

      11 G + 13 A in 21 games. Has been nominated for the Hobey Baker Trophy (top NCAA player) this season, still has another year after this in University.

    • GSP says:

      He’s still with North Dakota Fighting Sioux where he is tied for the team lead with 24 points in 21 games

      He’s also still ranked as the number 2 habs prospect on Hockey’s Future, though I don’t know what his status is pertaining going pro.

    • Mark C says:

      Still in school. He’s tied for 1st on his team in points and 2nd in goals. 21-11-13-24 and +5.

    • Boomer says:

      still developing lol, maybe next year we’ll see him in hamilton

      Boom baby!

    • Duracell3 says:

      Up then down….somewhat of a rebound year this year, I think he will go the full 4, hopefully he comes out at a time when hes ready and spends a year in Hamilton and is fully ready to come up.

    • solomio says:

      Lost a couple of toes to frost bite a believe. It’s a bitch to skate without toes they say

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  46. db says:

    Just watched thats hockey.. time to turn it off now, leafs are playing ;)

    So of course they’re talking about Cammy… and guess what Francois Gagnon was on the show. Of course he added some fuel to the fire, saying that he got some tweets and txts from Habs players that confirmed Cammy was known as “Me, myself and Mike”.

    It didn’t seem to me like Cammy was too bothered by it, but honestly he’s always been hard to read. He’s smart enough to know what to say and when to say it, so those comments of his earlier in the week were a bit rough. I guess that’s what happens when you’re losing…

    I’m just curious if anyone wants to meet me in Mexico, Playa del Carmen, for the beginning of the playoffs this year?

  47. GSP says:

    Who/what do you guys think they can get for guys like Weber, Campoli, Gill, Moen, or AK46?

    I’m not too optimistic about potential returns for Weber and Campoli, especially since they’ve been healthy scratches for so many games. Though I think Gill and Moen especially could really help some teams in the playoffs, and a guy like AK46 can provide solid secondary scoring on a good team.

  48. Ian Cobb says:

    Fantastic article by Andrew Cohen.
    Pretty much nailed it.

    • pastor_prime says:

      I think Robert Rice (aka SeriousFan nailed it better on twitter… in 280 chars

      “#Habs operations since Molson’s become owner: Jacking ticket prices, beer, threatening websites/restaurants for using the CH… 1/2
      No recognition that language comes secondary to wins, not standing up for your coach when you sent him into a bad situation. 2/2″

      Only Gomez knows what being Gomez feels like.

  49. manu07 says:

    It’s a circus in Habs nation. The only positive I see is that it’s not possible for things to get worse then they already are… I hope! Things can only get better from here … I hope :s

  50. JUST ME says:

    And meanwhile another former minister Normandeau finds a job at an engeneering firm that will help the friends of the sytem to make sure they get all the bucks.

    Of course i am out of line but just to illustrate that there are much more important matters we should be dealing with like your tax money and mine ! I cannot afford to go to the Bell Center and give my money to a private enterprise but i do not have the choice to see my tax money being given towards legalized fraud….

    So with all due respect , i still give my support to the habs cause it`s only hockey, so should you…

  51. HabinBurlington says:

    Do we have any Habs Fans who used to write for Murdoch in Great Britain that are bored and would like to offer us a letter? I read it, some good points, but it is just a post like the rest of us post daily.

  52. JohnBellyful says:

    Going down the drain might not be such a bad thing for the Canadiens. The team could use some flow in its offence, swirling around ever faster and faster. Get rid of the pluggers, I say.

    Actually, I’d love to see RC and the Gang throw convention out the window. Now’s the time to experiment. Don’t let the players’ efforts flag but draw up a few new plays that open up the attack, even at the risk of exposing the defence to counter-thrusts. Lob passes. Cherry picking [you know, where the team plays as if it's a man short in its own end while a forward waits on the other side of centre ice for a long pass; I never did hear from JM the first three times I mentioned to him]. Or the slap passes into the middle where the forward simply tries to deflect it onto net [yeah, the table top hockey gambit].
    Just try something new, puhleeze, RC. An injection of excitement from having your team do something out of the ordinary [like winning? C'mon, gang, that's a cheap shot. He's doing his best].
    It’s not as if it’s going to cost you your job at the end of the season, RC. There’s no job waiting for you at the end of the season. Not with the Canadiens. And, no, it won’t hurt your prospects of employment elsewhere. Hey, Boudreau got hired a second time. So did Therrien.
    If they can do it …

  53. LeNordique says:

    Re: Trevor Timmons, am I the only one that thinks that the problem isn’t with scouting but with how they develop their players?

    For awhile, list after list put the Habs’ prospects toward the top of the league as a group…there will always be some misses, but I have a hard time believing that everyone could have been wrong about the guys they were drafting.

    • GrimJim says:

      i think one of the biggest problems is part of what HardHabits has been saying, they don’t draft often enough. The Habs haven’t had a 1st and 2nd round pick in the same draft year since 2007. That’s four prospects “missing” from their potential pool of young players.

      • HardHabits says:

        Also something else I have mentioned that SeriousFan09 started running with is that the Habs tend to trade away assets for little in return. The Habs have an excellent track record for the percentage of their picks that become NHLers. Unfortunately, often it is with other teams.

        Nice observation about the past 4 year trend. I hadn’t noticed that. Thanks for pointing it out.

  54. bajd says:

    it’s interesting that Gauthier is saying we need to get bigger when he was Gainey’s partner in trading and signing small guys in the first place. Bourque helps a bit in the size department but you’d think if Gauthier had shopped Cammy around, he might have gotten a bit more. Would have liked to see a trade where it’s obvious as to which direction the Habs are taking. Trading for a 30yr old with 4 more years on his contract suggests the Habs are still into finding band aids for their team

  55. HabFab says:

    If you have not already, you should listen to the TSN Radio 990 conversation with Mackenzie and Gagnon this morning.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/

  56. Fansincebirth says:

    Standing O to you Andrew. You wrapped everything I think and feel about this team which I have loved, lived and died (figuratively speaking, of course) for for these past 50 years. These are dark times to be a Habs fan but I will carry on loving and cheering all the same.

    Please, for the love of Gawd, give us a team we can be proud of. Give us a team we deserve. Ignore the ‘tiny, smaller is better’ credo or the ‘our coach etc must speak French’. Give us the best coach and GM that is available, regardless of language spoken and to the fans and media who are demanding language over quality/experience in a coach, build a bridge and get over it!

  57. gohabsjoe says:

    Wow this article makes me wanna slit my wrists or even worst become a leafs fan. The team is not that bad. It’s bad but not that bad.

  58. PeterD says:

    I don’t care one bit if the Habs have any players that speak French…In fact the Franco fan faithful are rapidly starting to love a guy that speaks neither of the two offical languages of the country…A. Emelin only speaks Russian…just love the hipocracy of the fans…demand French speaking players and Coaches but love a guy who only speaks Russian. Why is that?
    Because he works hard, plays honest hard hitting hockey and gives his best game in and game out…and almost every game sends an opponent head over heals with a very solid “old school” open ice hip check…love the guy and love to see this type of solid and clean hitting coming back into the game.
    I remember during the summer some of the commotariate hear thought Emelin may have a difficult time hitting and playing his game without taking dirty hit penalties and suspensions…good to see the Rookie Hit leader doing his job clean and wothout suspension…knock on wood that this continues.
    Keep it up Emelin…and for God sakes don’t get distracted by a perceived need to learn French so you can make the language Police happy…just keep doing what you do best…compete and hit.

  59. king ddd says:

    c’mon guys be grateful we have trevor timmins. sure he messed up on giroux every one screws up some times and unlike most i dont think picking up ak46 was bad its just that he never had a good centre to play with(trade him, and watch hell score 40 goals). he drafted sk74, pk, carey, halak, grabovski, max, gallageher, mcdougnh(sigh) beaulieu etc,. sk, grabs, latendresses (b4 injury), have been grat for other teams but not for us. so who is it to blame timmins or our prospect developpment

  60. Stev.R says:

    Atleast we don’t have Dipietro. Done for the season

  61. DrA says:

    First of all he is allowed his opinion like the rest of us.
    Second who never has typos in their post? I agree with the essence of the post to get rid of Gauthier and Gomez and to keep Gionta. I essentially shared this view earlier today. Timmons is another matter, he has done a good job and it may be the lack of scouts especially here in Quebec. We need to get bigger and nastier. When the Habs last won the cup they have some tough customers. Now it is just a bunch of nice guys. Nice never wins.

    • solomio says:

      A legal secretary, DrA

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  62. ZepFan2 says:

    Wow HH, I thought you’d have more hair. :razz:

    ———————————————————————-
    Welcome to the newer NHL: The National Headshot League.

    • HardHabits says:

      Hahaha. I am pushing 50 with a full head of hair and hardly any grey!!!

      It’s not me though. Rather more and more people like Andrew Cohen and Vincent Damphousse are saying things that I have been saying for the past 3 years now.

      I need to send Mr. Molson my CV.

  63. JUST ME says:

    Mckenzie wrote a much better analysis of the situation and Dreger even did a timeline of the events from yesterday that is worth looking at.

    We all have our point of view on the Habs and the actual season but we are way too passionnate about it.
    Look at Buffalo,Tampa,Islanders to name a few and tell me they are not in the same bath…Difference here is we have many Francois Gagnons that enjoy stirring the pot and making it a matter of national pride wich it should not be, not at the level that they think it is at least…

  64. HardHabits says:

    Yeah baby. TankWagon™ is loading up!!!

    Hire Damphousse as GM Mr. Molson. Show Gainey and Gauthier the door.

    • Chris says:

      Why are we hiring Damphousse as GM?

      • HabFab says:

        Cause he is the only “expert” on AntiChambre that makes sense which is PC in Quebec. What a frigging zoo!

        • Chris says:

          Ah…so basically, it would probably be a complete and utter disaster so we should do it.

          Gotcha.

          • HardHabits says:

            Dude. It is an utter and complete disaster.

          • Chris says:

            Right.

            So instead of actually conducting a proper and exhaustive search to fix the problem, we shall look for a Hail Mary and hire the first telegenic, French-speaking ex-hockey player that comes along.

            Are you currently an assistant GM for an NHL franchise, responsible for actually running a hockey team (the AHL affiliate)? Don’t even bother applying.

            Are you a former NHL player whose management experience involves sitting on the NHLPA and opining about NHL management on Oprah-for-men (Antichambre)? Step right up!

          • HardHabits says:

            @Chris: You’re cute when you’re angry. :-)

            Vinnie D is only a suggestion. At least I am not trotting out Bergeron or McGuire.

            To be honest, hearing PG talk in French after the Cammy trade makes me want to see what other moves he has in store and give him a chance to show us what he is made of. IMHHO there is no worse case scenario any more. Nothing can be worse than the crap Habs fans have gone through since the melt-down. Bring it on. What doesn’t kills you only makes you stronger.

      • HardHabits says:

        Because I like what he has been saying on l’Antichambre about how to rebuild the team. In other words “forget about the play-offs if needed and concentrate on building via the draft.” He wants to break the cycle of just playing for 8th.

        He is articulate and well spoken and looks like he has a plan. I think he’d do great. Don’t forget Serge Savard had no experience either and he was the best GM since Pollack.

        • CalgaryHab says:

          Savard also traded LeClair, Dejardins, and Dionne for Recchi. The love affair of the little man began. That was the start of our demise.

          • HardHabits says:

            I think Serge Savard was pressured by Corey and a tanking Quebec economy. Those were dire times for sure but IMO economics fueled those errors. Even still he still has the best draft and Cup record since Pollack. But I hated that trade. Like I hated the Roy and Chelios trades although Denis Savard was a big part in the Habs earning 106 points when they won the Cup, notwithstanding his play-off ending injury and that he bolted back to Chicago the 1st chance he got.

            Savard still is numero uno since 1980.

        • Chris says:

          Yes, but Serge Savard was also involved in numerous business ventures and in politics throughout his playing career, earning the nickname “The Senator” from his teammates.

          Damphousse can say “forget about the playoffs if needed and concentrate on building via the draft” all he likes as an armchair GM. It’s a little tougher when you’re in the real GM’s chair.

          Contracts have to be signed. Players need to be kept happy, a difficult proposition if your team is going into Tank mode. Fans need to be appeased. The media needs to be appeased.

          Damphousse may or may not be a good choice. But he wouldn’t be even near MY wish list, to be honest.

          • HardHabits says:

            So tell me then, who makes your short list as GM and Coach?

          • Chris says:

            GMs:

            Given the requirement (which I don’t agree with) of French, I think Julien BriseBois would have to be a favourite. He was the GM of the Hamilton Bulldogs and is currently earning experience with the Tampa Bay Lightning as their Assistant GM and GM of the Norfolk Admirals. He is a lawyer that is well regarded for his contract negotiations and salary cap management.

            As with Peter Chiarelli in Boston (who works very closely with Cam Neely, who was Vice-President and is now President), I think you have to recognize the BriseBois is not necessarily as strong on the hockey assessment side so you bring in a “hockey guy” as a foil. Trevor Timmins would be an obvious choice, as I don’t think his ability to identify talent is too questionable…he does as well as anybody given where he drafts. But if he’s not palatable, I think perhaps seeing if you could lure a veteran like Lorne Henning (currently the Assistant GM and Director of Player Personnel in Vancouver) to assist BriseBois might be the best route. I would actually prefer to see Henning as the GM given his playing, coaching and executive experience, but his lack of French would become too much of a firestorm.

            If we’re looking closer to home, Eric Desjardins is a guy who I can eventually see in management somewhere. He’s a relatively smart guy who understood the game well, so perhaps he could get involved. He served as a player development coach for a year in Philadelphia, but resigned to pursue business interests. I think I’m biased there, though, as I always thought he would show more of an inclination for hockey management than he has.

            Another possibility might be Claude Loiselle. He has been an Assistant GM with both Tampa Bay and now with Toronto, he earned his law degree while playing in the NHL and he speaks French. Robert L identified him on January 1, and he’s a guy that I’ve always thought might transition into management…you’ve got to have some drive to get a law degree while working as a professional athlete.

            If we REALLY want to go outside the box, how about a European GM, such as Håkan Loob? He was the general manager for Färjestads in the Swedish Elite League and routinely kept his team at or near the top. Loob probably wouldn’t come (he cut his career short in its prime to go home), but at least contemplating European GM’s would be nice.

            Coaches:

            As for coaches, the usual suspects will get bandied about. Crawford, Hartley, etc. Vyacheslav Bykov might get consideration again, although the shine on his star is a little less magnificent today than it was when he was interviewed a few years ago.

            Again, we have to work within the reality of coaches who can speak French. As with Loiselle above, one guy I’ve always expected to end up in management or coaching was Claude Lapointe. He’s doing some lower level coaching in Quebec but has drawn attention for developing players. Due to his struggles with drug addiction, he has become a strong communicator and motivator, and you have to imagine he might be the kind of guy who could keep his players on the straight and narrow.

            It would be nice if Clément Jodoin got some attention. He’s earned his dues, coaching in the QMJHL, the AHL and serving as an assistant coach in the NHL. Unfortunately he hasn’t won much in his career.

            On the other hand, Benoit Groulx has won plenty: three QMJHL championships in 6 full seasons as head coach. He also coached for two years with the Rochester Americans, but he didn’t have much to work with there as the Panthers haven’t got the strongest farm system.

            And of course, there is Patrick Roy for either role. I personally don’t feel Monreal is a good fit for Roy’s first foray into NHL management…the pressure might be too much for his volatile temperament. But that being said, I DO think he will make a very good manager or coach at some point.

          • HardHabits says:

            Good answer. Not the first time nor will it be the last for you. ;-)

            I also like the angry Chris. :-D

  65. Habit in the west says:

    How right he is. Too sad that most of you are not motivated enough to consider the ending to what Andrew Cohen said. They got lucky a couple of years ago. This has been a mediocre team at best for the last almost 2 decades now. There has been no vision, no insite into how to build a proper team, right down to drafting the player best at his position for the draft. Consider this, when the need has been to draft a skilled forward with size, why keep drafting defensemen and a goaltender? How do you get away with drafting Kostitsyn instead of Carter? How do you trade so poorly without getting other teams to compete? Point in one direction. The last GM to win a Stanley Cup, to be worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as the best in the NHL is Serge Savard. If you ask me, I think too many within the organization are drinking to many Molson products. I guess that’s the perks that go with working within the organization. I was there when they opened up the Molson/Bell centre, working as a barman in Ovation, the restaurant before they changed the name. More times than not, Cournoyer and Lambert were getting drunk, I mean real drunk, after each home game. The quality the team has, they get rid of. The cr*p they keep. Can anyone tell me, what is the plan that the current management has for this team. What is the goal? To compete for 8th place? My disappointment stems as deep as Andrew Cohen and good for him for speaking the way I’ve felt for years. As well, this team, in case no one has noticed, has been run by the french media. Can anyone donate a backbone to these people? For the first time ever, my support wanes. Arrogance is what stops people and organizations from being the best. Call a spade a spade, this team hasn’t been close to the best for a very long time. They had a very good, if not excellent coach in Guy Carbonneau, but they found a way to screw that up. Who fires a coach 11 games over .500? It’s one disappointment after another. Look at it for what it is, it will take 10 years to rebuild into anything decent. Keep being distorted and it will never happen. Keep Gauthier, resign Gomez to an extension, it’s the direction this team is going in. Thank you Jeff Molson, for thinking you’re on the “Yellow Brick Road”.

    • solomio says:

      10 years!! Half the commentariat won’t be around in 10 years!!! That’s not fair. They’ll have to do it quicker than that.

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  66. Belifan74 says:

    “And that brings me to the scouting department. When does Trevor Timmons get evaluated,,, for his work over the past decade?” With all due respect Mr Cohen, you may be a fan but you know little about Hockey if you think Trevor Timmins (spelled with an i!) is the problem in Montreal. Look it up, his record speaks for itself. It’s not his fault the GM’s keep trading his players. Like they say in Montreal “un peu de rigueur SVP”

  67. pastor_prime says:

    TL;DR
    who cares if Gauthier has to go or not… or if Bob Gainey is or isn’t still responsible for this mess… as if we are every going to know what is really going on behind the scenes. Mike, Pat, the French press everybody is just guessing. Its probably like Robert Rice tweeted, Molson’s done nothing but up the beer and ticket prices, attack sites and businesses that use the word Habs, or show the logo… I think we need to look a little harder. Habs two top execs come from Disney, no wonder we have a Mickey Mouse team.

    here’s the best of the rest
    max pac – Plek – Bourque
    akost – eller – Moen
    Cole – DD – Gomez
    Noke – Blunden – Darche

    subban gill
    diaz emelin
    gorges St. Denis

    Only Gomez knows what being Gomez feels like.

  68. GrimJim says:

    Why does this nattering nabob get his own thread? I’ve read funnier, more passionate, more succient diatribes on this site every day for the past three months. This is 1200 words with the same message HardHabits and Timo delivers in three profane sentences.

    • HardHabits says:

      So without reading it he is basically saying the Habs need to Tank™ and that they Suck™?

      • GrimJim says:

        One sentence and no profanity… you’ve been practicing?

        • HabFab says:

          Tank and Suck are not profanity?

        • HardHabits says:

          I never knew brutal honesty was profane. You should try accepting reality sometime. It makes the LSD all the more pleasant while tripping.

          • GrimJim says:

            I was joking which I though you would recognize as profanity is on the list of things that get you banned and you haven’t to the best of my recollection been banned yet (Timo has but that’s a different matter)
            I’m just a fan. I know the season is lost but I still want to watch my Habs win.
            It must be such a straight-jacket to have to be right all the time and play the ‘enfant terrible’ with everyone who disagrees with you…

          • solomio says:

            I’m not sure that I would describe tripping on LSD as pleasant

            “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

          • HardHabits says:

            @GrimJim: At least the room is padded.

            :-P

            I knew you were joking. What did you expect me to say? And thank you for calling me an enfant terrible but I am agreeing with you.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      Agreed. Even ignoring the spelling errors and mathematical errors (700k is an average salary apparently), this barely deserved attention.

      The situation has been better explained in a far more concise manner by numerous sources, even some of our own posters.

    • solomio says:

      Yeah but Timo is a Calgarian for gawd’s sake and HH is………… well we don’t know

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  69. HabFab says:

    Bourque can’t speak French but Patrick Holland can (9 years French Immersion) for those that care…I don’t!

    • HardHabits says:

      I prefer to be open minded in two languages rather than be ignorant in one, but that’s just me.

      • HabFab says:

        ahem…but I’ll be nice ;)

        • HardHabits says:

          I understand your frustrations as an English speaking Habs fan. I have lived with much of the same sentiment most of my adult life as a person whose first language is English living in Quebec. Obviously being functionally bilingual has helped. In fact it has been in my current job, which is primarily a French institution, that my French has improved to the level where I am comfortable speaking French at ease now. I still am planning on taking French courses to improve my vocabulary and my ability to conjugate verbs and express complex ideas as freely as I can in English. I can listen to news, sports, movies, television shows etc without missing a beat. So that does put me at an advantage to be open minded.

          Learning French is not easy I will admit but to live in Quebec it is a fact of life. Being a Habs fan entails accepting this reality because it is not going away.

          It is not just the fault of the French media but also the reaction of the English media that is causing so much antipathy on this subject.

          It is another reason why I am behind Damphousse as GM. He is very open minded and new school. He would appeal to both Anglo and Franco alike and build bridges.

          So apart from my sarcasm and caustic humour, all I can recommend is a little respect and understanding. From what I have seen of Canadians, they are good people capable of doing it.

          • HabFab says:

            Ques tu dit?

            Grow up and worked in Montreal, left 30+ years ago living from one coast to the other. My French has mostly disappeared thru lack of use. Most of my family live in NB now, intermarried with francophones sending their kids to French Immersion like my 8 year grandson this year (the one that has a Dupuis for his other grandfather). By the way, although my French has decreased, he practices with both grandfathers.

      • solomio says:

        double post

        “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  70. abhishek33 says:

    I really wish people would stop making the excuse that we need a French speaking coach. Why can’t that simply be something the coach must learn as part of his job? It’s not like it would kill the Habs’ brass to hire a private tutor.

    Another point: it’s not just a matter of changing players or coaches. It’s also a matter of changing coaching styles. If you want offensive players to play offensively, the game plan has to allow for that, rather than bottle them up and make everyone focus on D. That’s where I think the 2nd problem lies. Back when the idea was to build the team around “skill and speed”, the coaches continued to emphasize playing defense. Having the GM focus on one thing and the coach do something different isn’t going to help the players, those being drafted and most importantly, the team.

  71. SPATS says:

    We understand the passion and frustration, but as a writer you should proof read your work. Maybe your editor did it for you, and he thinks Quebecers earn 700K… Little stuff like that aside, the problem is Geoff Molson. Nepotism is the way to the bottom. He didn’t have to remake his beer company to keep rolling in the dough. But, obviously he has poor advisors (the ones who told him PG was a fine GM) aside from the obvious ones PG, BG & JM. He should remove himself from the equation and put a hockey pro in there. Maybe then we can be proud that the man at the top isn’t some spoiled entitled brat who inherited a proud tradition and FUBAR’D it.
    There isn’t much to be proud of as a Habs fan these days.
    And to those of you who think Bourque will work out, I have news for you, a bully just entered the playground among the meek. He’ll make this worse before it gets better. He’s not professional and now he has a bigger stage to embarrass himself on. You thought Gomer was the poster boy for underachievement? Bourque is all that and he’s dangerous to the other players and himself.

    OOH AAH – HABS ON THE WARPATH!

  72. CanadienBoy says:

    That”s the same over and over and the one good about it , Cammy is gone in a good trade for us for change

  73. mikeyo73 says:

    Wow the average salary in Quebec is $700k? I guess Gomez isn’t overpaid after all.

    Gomez was a bad trade but could have been better if he hadn’t decided to cash his checks and unofficially retire while still playing. The mistakes since then are on Gauthier and will take years to fix.

  74. Stuck_in_To. says:

    I stopped reading halfway through which was predictable as I have not bothered with reading the Atlantic in many years.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      I wanted to start reading then I saw the names “Hall Gill” and “Thomas Kaberle” and I decided not to. Two simple names, two mistakes? Pretty poor and it´s Andrei Markov, not Andre…

      • habfanacrossthed says:

        If you think Hal Gill is a mistake YOUR a joke. Plays his slow ass off for CH. Teaches Subban, Gorges, et al how to be a better player with less skills. Give credit when its due the guy is a VET.

        GHOD – Go Habs Or Die

        • Bob_Sacamano says:

          Can you read? It´s Hal Gill, not Hall and Tomas Kaberle, not Thomas. That was my point. For a contributing editor at The Atlantic Cohen makes a ridiculous amount of mistakes. Also see Markov, Andrei and Timmins, Trevor.

          Btw: You´re a joke, not me and not your.

          That aside, it´s time for Gill to retire after this season.

  75. matt jordan says:

    you’re are habsolutely correct on every point.

    the only thing that is true from the article is the final two lines

  76. 24moreCups says:

    I don’t mind the trade at all, I liked Cammy and wish him the best in Calgary and think he will do well.

    But I don’t agree and pulling a player out of a game, sending him to a hotel to wait to hear where he is traded to.

    You should of either scratched him and let him now he might be traded if the deal isn’t completed yet or waited till the game was over.

    The reason why I think is because we are supposed to be one of the most classy organizations in the league and this year we’re becoming a joke and this just adds on to it.

    Even if PG and the rest had their reasons for the timing it still gives the media and the rest of the hockey fans around a reason to criticize us and it seems we’re becoming the laughing stock of the league, it’s sad.

    I’m looking forward to next season because it can’t be worse then this season(I hope).

    Still I love this team, so it’s always GO HABS GO, but it certainly sucks lately.

  77. showey47 says:

    Thats where your wrong,the current cba states players can also be put up at 4 star hotels,lol. Much better then my playing days when some of the hotels we stayed in had “hourly rates”.

  78. ABHabsfan says:

    Agreed. There are a number of players on the Habs that form a good core. Pleks has been great, just seems to be in a rut. Lucic goal last night case in point, He never should have had the puck. Just can’t stand these posts suggesting we get Gillies or McIntyre, they are on waivers for a reason, and it ain’t their $7.3 M salary.
    P. McG. knows his hockey, no doubt. I would like to see him get a shot.

  79. Mark C says:

    Have you seen Hamrlik’s and Wiz’ stats this year? I’m guessing the answer is no.

  80. Stev.R says:

    He wanted to scratch him but the line up was already in and they would’ve been stuck sort a guy.

  81. Chuck says:

    Yikes! Did you take your own bedding with you on road trips? ;)


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