A $60-million salary cap would hurt Habs in 2013-14

The Gazette’s Pat Hickey reports that if a new collective bargaining agreement results in a $60-million salary cap for the 2013-14 season, the Bob Gainey-Pierre Gauthier era could come back to haunt the Habs and new general manager Marc Bergevin.

Hickey notes that the Canadiens already have contracts for next season with 16 players with a salary-cap hit of $60.1 million. The Canadiens’ situation is made more challenging when you consider that filling out the roster involves more than finding cap room to sign an assortment of minimum-wage players.

Among the players who are not signed for 2013-14 are current restricted free agent P.K. Subban and top-six forward David Desharnais. There’s also a good possibility Bergevin will require a spare million to sign Alex Galchenyuk to an entry-level deal.

Read more by clicking here.

The Canadian Press reports that the NHL and NHLPA plan to meet Monday for the first formal face-to-face collective bargaining session between the two sides since talks broke down on Dec. 6. The league and NHLPA exchanged more information Sunday on the latest offer from the owners before the union left to meet internally.

Read more by clicking here.

In his Monday Morning QB column, Jack Todd writes: “So Bill Daly’s ‘the hill we will die on’ was really ‘the molehill where we’ll take a nice little nap.'”

Todd adds: “Surprise, surprise: it appears that Daly was exaggerating just a tad. From the beginning of this little exercise in league-directed madness, the apocalyptic rhetoric emanating from the owners’ side provided enough hot air to propel the Hindenburg across the Atlantic.”

You can read Todd’s column by clicking here.

Meanwhile, Dave Stubbs looks back on some New Year’s Eve memories involving former Soviet goalie Vladislav Tretiak, noting that 30 years ago Monday night at the Forum a touring all-star team of Soviets completed a perfect two-night swing through this province, blanking the Canadiens 5-0 only 24 hours after having beaten the Quebec Nordiques 3-0 at Le Colisée. Seven years earlier, to the night, the Canadiens and Red Army had skated to a 3-3 tie in what often is described as the greatest game ever played.

You can read Stubbs’s column by clicking here.

For the latest news from the World Junior Hockey Championship, click here.

(Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)



  1. jols101 says:

    Wow can you say 1st overall Jonathan Drouin. He has looked way better then MaKinnon or Jones.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Seth Jones is still going to be a beast on the blueline for someone. Dmen take longer to develop as we all know. Drouin or MacKinnon is the sexier pick (I hope you know what I mean), but whoever gets Jones has a Dmen who will become a Pronger/Chara type potential gamechanger at the backend. A very safe pick, safer than MacKinnon I think.

    • scuba says:

      I actually think Mackinnon has done a decent job at playing physical and defensive hockey.(until the penalties today) This tournament has not hurt him I don’t think.

  2. Blondie says:

    Nice rush by Riley, Toronto may have a good one there.

  3. jols101 says:

    Is today Halloween in Russia?

  4. HabinBurlington says:

    Is it just me or does Grigorenko seem invisible?

  5. Blondie says:

    McKinnon’s going to end up with his ass nailed to the bench if he keeps this up.

  6. HabinBurlington says:

    Touchy call, but MacKinnon needs to keep stick down there.

  7. Hobie Hansen says:

    Canada has dominated the 1st half of the game. Have to be careful cuz those sneaky Russians can score in big time bunches.

  8. HabinBurlington says:

    Been a long time since Canada had this depth of skill at forward position. For so long Canada’s strength has been on D and in net. Great to see the team showing some offensive flair!

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      The OHL is oozing with talenet as is displayed on team Canada and throughout the tournament. In saying that, this is the strongest QMJHL presence on Team Canada is quite a while, good to see!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        The irony is that all these kids getting extra time in Junior or AHL is going to help them take jobs from the players currently on strike.

        Edit: sorry meant locked out.

  9. Blondie says:

    Drouin! Sneaky stuff, surprised he scored on that.

  10. Mavid says:

    yipppeeee Drouin….

  11. jols101 says:

    Ahhh the sweet hands of Drouin. Nicely done.

  12. scuba says:

    Way to go Kid!

  13. HabinBurlington says:

    Drouin has talent, wow what a goalscorers goal!!!!

  14. Mavid says:

    Go Canada Go…Spengler Cup champs!! And now on to the Juniors…what an exciting game…Subban looks solid!! I am so hyped…

  15. Blondie says:

    Great play by Jenner – love it when we kill penalties behind the other teams net.

  16. HabinBurlington says:

    Mackinnon has to get that shot on net!

  17. frontenac1 says:

    @@Burly. Coffee , Cognac and Cohibas. That’s how ya Roll for morning games Amigo!

  18. Hobie Hansen says:

    You’d have to imagine the Bruins and Habs rivalry will be as exciting as ever a couple years down the road when Galchenyuk, M. Subban, Tinordi and Hamilton join the action.

  19. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay, coffeed out, time to switch to the good stuff. 🙂

  20. 24 Cups says:

    Canada caught a real break on that penalty call. Certainly makes up for all the controversy with Jenner and Lipon.

    Subban didn’t stand a chance on the Russian goal.

  21. BJ says:

    Good first. Time to come up for a some O2.

  22. jols101 says:

    What a great game. Best of the Tournament so far.

    Hold your head up high,Schiefele. He’s been a work horse all tournament. Just keep going and get that one back…

  23. BJ says:

    Big loss for Russia with #15 out. He’s been their best player. This guy has to go top 5 at the Entry Draft this year.

  24. Hobie Hansen says:

    Even though that goal went in I think Subban is zoned in real good. And man, the talent on the ice is disgusting.

  25. Propwash says:

    Gut check time. That was brutal

    “Access Forbidden” gettin’ ya down?
    Hold down Shift while clicking refresh.

  26. HabinBurlington says:

    Brutal giveaway by Schieffle, just like that from hero to goat in no time. Love this hockey!

  27. Blondie says:

    The fans sound a little miffed. 🙂

  28. HabinBurlington says:

    Where is Boone with a Live Blog for this game!!!!

  29. HabinBurlington says:

    Canada will need to be disciplined, got lucky there that Ritchie wasn’t seen with high stick.

  30. Blondie says:

    Woohoo! Costly penalty for Russia. Keep it up boys.

  31. Harditya says:


  32. frontenac1 says:

    2-0 Canada!!!!

  33. HabinBurlington says:

    Scheiffle has great hands, looks like Hawerchuk picked a beauty for the Jets. Go Canada Go!!!!

  34. Propwash says:


    “Access Forbidden” gettin’ ya down?
    Hold down Shift while clicking refresh.

  35. frontenac1 says:

    Dougie Hamilton ! 1-0 Canada!

  36. Harditya says:

    ROCKET by Dougie Hamilton! Man the Bruins got it good..

  37. jols101 says:

    What a Rocket. Wow.

  38. Propwash says:


    “Access Forbidden” gettin’ ya down?
    Hold down Shift while clicking refresh.

  39. Blondie says:

    The power play is looking a little more effective than it has recently.

  40. HabinBurlington says:

    Big call, not sure I agree with it. Seemed to me Wotherspoon kind of waited with the puck for awhile in a vulnerable position.

  41. Hobie Hansen says:

    At least the IIHF officials are consistent, just kicked a Russian out of the game for a check from behind.

  42. Blondie says:

    Looks like everyone ate their wheaties this morning – both teams flying.

  43. Psycho29 says:

    @ Robert L:
    Saw your posts below about the Habs’ beginnings back in 1909…Thought you might find these articles interesting from the Gazette back then. (from Dec.4th and 6th, 1909)



    At the time there were complaints that there would be too much hockey in Montreal. (60 available dates with 47 games to be played including Senior hockey)
    The new season was set to start on December 30th and end in March…..

  44. scuba says:

    Drouin on the top line for today’s game. Not sure about changing up the line heading in to must win games but I am not surprised to see this kid moving up the line chart. He is getting stronger and more confident every game. Expect some magic today from him today with RNH.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Our friend Ed Lopaz said awhile ago that all this Drouin kid does is rise to the top at every level. He seems to have that “it” factor. Love watching Drouin, just another example of the great scouts we have here at HI/O!

      • scuba says:

        Yup, he was right on. With MacKinnon being the home town kid with all the hype I was shocked early in the year to find myself more excited to see Drouin. With each game me and my buddies have asked each other is he better than Mackinnon. Mackinnon has been amazing but in my opinion Drouin has the best puck skills I have ever seen.

    • Blondie says:

      Jenner and Lipon back from suspension too. Should be fun with a full lineup for a change.

    • Harditya says:

      Kid can stick handle, he has great hands.

  45. Harditya says:

    Despite all the criticism on Gally he’s 2nd in the entire tournament in scoring with 7 points in 4 games. Just one point behind Hopkins.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I have watched most of the U.S. games and I don’t understand the criticism Gally has gotten. But seems Some Hab fans love to eat there own.

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        That U.S. team plays a weird style of hockey. It seems like half the players on the team would rather skate out of position than give up the puck to one of his team mates. They’ve got a lot of forwards who like to skate sideways in the neutral zone, and a lot of defencemen who like carry the puck down to the other team’s goal line.

      • Chris says:

        I was down on Galchenyuk during the U.S. game because he was basically invisible for 50 minutes.

        But I also stated that reading into player performances at this tournament is perilous. Galchenyuk is almost a lock to be a star in the NHL. I have zero doubt.

        But I also had zero doubt that Ryan McDonagh was going to be an awesome defenceman and I was super-angry when we gave him up for Gomez. But so many were okay with that trade based on a less than optimum performance in the WJC. Canadian hockey fans put entirely too much stock on this tournament.

  46. jols101 says:

    Love to be in Ufa, Russia right now. The stands are empty unless Russia is playing, I would be cabbing between arenas taking in as many games as possible. They must be giving tickets away to the non Russian games.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Me too. I said this the other day but its a shame that outside of Canada this tournament goes unnoticed for the most part. It is a shame because it really is the best hockey we will see during a non Olympic year.


    • Chris says:

      Europeans, by and large, treat the World Juniors the same way Canadian fans treat the World Championships, which is the big event on the calendar for the rest of the world. And the hockey there is, on the whole, better than the World Juniors.

      The difference between the two tournaments is that Canada often wins the WJC, which means we love it. We don’t often win the WC, so we denigrate that tournmanet.

      • jols101 says:

        I don’t denigrate the WC because Canada doesn’t win it very often, I just don’t pay it much attention because all the best players are still playing in the NHL playoffs.

        If the lockout continues all season I will watch every game because the best players will actually be there for once.

        • Chris says:

          Yet we watch the WJC every year despite the fact that many of the best players for that tournament are also in the NHL.

          Look at last year’s tournament. Eligible players that couldn’t go included Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sean Couturier, Jeff Skinner, Ryan Johansen, Tyler Seguin and Erik Gudbranson, who all would have been locks had they not been in the NHL. That represents about a third of what Team Canada should have been. But there was no reduction of support despite the absence of the stars.

          There is no doubt that the World Championships feature a reduced star quality. But with the teams that don’t make the playoffs and the teams that lose in the first round all able to send players to the tournament, Canada still could have chosen from more players from 22 of the 30 NHL players.

          Evgeni Malkin went to play for Russia, but teammates Sidney Crosby, Kris Letang, Jordan Staal and James Neal did not join Canada’s roster.

          Marc-Edouard Vlasic played for Canada, but his Olympian teammates Joe Thornton and Patrick Marleau took a flier.

          Jeff Skinner played, but Eric Staal couldn’t be bothered.

          Every year, Canada could sent a near Olympic team in terms of talent to the World Championships, but players can get away with ducking the tournament because Canadians don’t care about it.

          And don’t count on the best players going even if the lockout continues. In the 2005 World Championships, Canada got its A-team goalies (Brodeur, Luongo, and Turco) and a few of its good skaters (Jovanovski, Redden, Boyle, Regehr, Phillips, Doan, Gagne, Marleau, Smyth, Thornton, Nash, Heatley and Draper).

          But consider the players that didn’t go but found their patriotism in time for the 2006 Olympics: Rob Blake, Scott Niedermayer, Adam Foote, Chris Pronger, Jay Bouwmeester, Bryan McCabe, Todd Bertuzzi, Jarome Iginla, Vincent Lecavalier, Brad Richards, Joe Sakic, and Martin St. Louis.

          You will get a better turnout this season. But you still won’t get the best of the best, which is really sad.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Thanks Frank. It seems the youngsters are beginning to adapt to the pro game. They’re in Binghampton in March and I see a road trip in my future.


  47. Cal says:

    More funny stuff from our resident comic genius:

  48. Habfan10912 says:

    Might be a good idea to avoid drive-thru’s tonight.



    • BJ says:

      Got to know Jomphe in Europe at a few events I covered. I first met him in 1995 in Sweden when he played for team Canada at the World Championships. Too bad, a real nice guy and as occasionally happens booze turns a few guys nasty.

  49. BJ says:

    Great 7-2 win for team Canada at the Spengler Cup.

  50. Ian Cobb says:

    Good morning. Thanks for the updates on the Spengler Cup people.
    I have been called out this morning to work, of all mornings! but I will see the Canada Russia game when I get home at 1 pm.

    Have a great day watching it, HIO and have a great NEW YEARS EVE everyone. Don’t drive!!!! stay alive!!!

  51. Cal says:

    Happy New Year, everyone. A little Stones to end the year with.

  52. Blondie says:

    Back to the Juniors, Sweden leading Finland 3-1 after 1. Outshooting them 26-6!

  53. HabFab says:

    In regards to the Salary Cap and roll backs talk earlier. Some of the confusion arises from the NHL and PA using different terminology in describing the same thing;
    – players HRR dropping from 57-50% (12.3%) has to be reflected in their salaries and the Salary Cap
    – calling it “roll back” or “escrow”, still has the same effect
    – just like the fund to help with this lose of salary is called “transitional” by the PA and “make whole” by the NHL
    – the decrease of HRR based on last year equals $231 ML a season while the fund above would only cover a third of that for the first 3 years.

  54. Habfan10912 says:

    I guess we know who the Flyers will use their buyout on.



  55. Habfan10912 says:

    The NHL CBA offer proposes a change in 2013 draft.



  56. Blondie says:

    6-1 to open the 3rd. Spezza.

  57. jols101 says:

    Gally ends the game a little bummed out but still with 1 goal and 1 assist.
    (they ended up giving him the assist on the US 5th goal.)

  58. Blondie says:

    Canada up 5-1, 5 minutes left in the second against Davos in the Spengler cup.

  59. jols101 says:

    Gally looks bummed out. lol. Not sure he is too happy to be there right now. His line is brutal. The other lines all lighting it up and his line is just not clicking and getting minimal ice time. He isn’t a happy camper out there…

  60. jols101 says:

    Gally not given an assist on the 5th goal even though he clearly created the scoring chance. Maybe they will give it to him between periods.

  61. jols101 says:

    US come out on fire. 5 goals in the first 12 minutes. Gally should have an assist but you never know with these refs.

  62. jols101 says:

    Go USA Go – Now normally I would be cheering for the Yanks to self destruct but since our boy Galchenyuk is playing for them, I hope they will win and advance to the medal round. (They really should beat Slovakia with relative ease.)

  63. Just for fun….doing some research on my next book, I discovered a cool little trivial detail. We all know that our Habs were created on December 4, 1909 – what other significant Canadian sporting event occurred on that very same day?

  64. Harditya says:

    Good to see Galchenyuk and Collberg as a part of the top 10 scorers in the tournament so far. Gally has 5 points in 3 games and Collberg has 4.

  65. Haborama says:

    ok, so consensus is that Galchenyuk played really bad in the Canada – US game.

    I have not seen any Sarnia games but here is what I gathered of Galchenyuk from team USA:

    – effective but not outstanding power-play guy

    – good one timer

    – not physical

    – coasts for the most part and rarely engages in board battles

    – rarely in traffic

    Now I don’t know if this is a case of bad coaching or bad player but EVERYONE agrees that he has been great in Sarnia this season, but what’s with his pay of late??

    I will try not to panic…….

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      for starters, he has 5pts on 10 total goals by Team USA, which isn’t bad at all

    • Mark C says:

      Who thought he played really bad? For the most part he was the only US forward generating any offensive opportunities. This is while the team with the best collection of talet keys in on him defensively.

      His line mates are a joke. Sean Kuraly has 4 points in 18 NCAA games. 4 points on the year. Being tied for third in scoring while playing with the Sean Kuraly’s of the world is impressive.

      • jols101 says:

        Well said Mark. He played fine; missed a couple great chances to tie the game but that happens to everyone now and then.

        5 points in 3 games. 3rd in tournament points behind only RNH and Strome who are a full year older. Cut the guy some slack. Lol.

      • Habilis says:

        What Mark said. Just imagine what Gally would do on a line with RNH and Strome. He’s doing great considering who he’s playing with.

    • neumann103 says:

      I have only seen one complete Sarnia game this year plus a lot of highlights but the only item from your list that seems familiar is “good one timer”.

      “Et le but!”

  66. HabinBurlington says:

    Bruins are at 69 million (lol Timo) granted they can dump Savard on LTR which cuts 4 million, Minnesota Wild are at 68Million. These are arguably two of the owners who seem to have Bettmans ear the most.

    I can’t see whatever deal reached being a hard 60million cap. It would hurt Bettmans buddies too much.

    • HabinNorth says:

      Everyone is using the 60 million committed figure which is based on the old CBA. Does the new CBA not role back all existing contracts?

      • Habilis says:

        Unless I’m understanding it wrong, which is very possible, I don’t think there is any rollback. That’s what the buyout is for, to get teams to the cap with whatever contracts they have now, minus one.

        I can’t see that working, and the owners have to know that. I’m hoping that Fehr has a creative solution in mind.

  67. Josh says:

    You forgot the roll-back.

  68. jols101 says:

    Gally has already been signed to an entry level contract and his cap hit is 3.25 million due to performance bonuses.

  69. frontenac1 says:

    ???????. Mas Tequilla Por Favor!!!!

  70. 24 Cups says:

    Been there, done that.

    Cutting Gomez loose will go a long way to helping the situation. Otherwise, there are two options. Trade or buyout some players or have Bettman negotiate a 2nd year mid 64-64M cap as a bridge to a permanent 50% revenue split.

    The main concern here should be the long term stability of a ten year deal. Applying a few band-aids in the first two years should be no big concern for either side.

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