Boivin weighs anchor


Photo by Robert J. Galbraith/The Gazette

In conversation with Dave Stubbs, Pierre Boivin reflects on his 12 years as president of the Canadiens.
Boivin will value “having brought back the pride and passion, and being almost obsessive about the respect of the fan in everything we do. And never, ever stopping until you’ve won the last game of the year, because that’s what it’s all about.”

Go (deleted) go!

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  1. HabsFan2 says:

    No I’m not

    I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

  2. RetroMikey says:

    With greedy Mr. Boivin as President of our once proud franchise, there is no Stanley Cup to show in Montreal compared to the passionate Ronald Corey who had 2 with all the comparisons and hype saying Boivin was the better of the two…wrong! Wow, something not to be proud of Pierre!
    Met Boivin several times in his tenure as a Prez and the impression I got with others with me was that he was a cocky and arrogant SOB and a real snake. Smooth as Golden I would say.
    He made a crap load of money for Gillette and others behind closed doors including himself.
    Thank heaven Geoff Molson has seen the day of light and has stepped in to clean the mess in the upper management side of things, but I don’t like the idea hiring Boivin Jr. in the fold. Guess he was fed a platinum spoon by his father all his life and got him the job before he got ousted as President.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  3. habs-hampton says:

    test comment.

    ’cause my comments don’t seem to post and then I try again and it says duplicate.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      that was happening to me yesterday. I thought maybe cuz i mentioned the H word in my posting and the lawyers caught it right away.

      Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

      • Danno says:

        I had a heck of a time and couldn’t post anything at all until I deleted the URL in my signature.


        “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  4. joshua94k says:

    If Pierre Boivin is a failure because he failed to help bring a Stanley Cup to Montreal he is in good company with the presidents and chairmen of:

    Philadelphia, Washington, Vancouver, Boston, Toronto, San Jose, LA, St. Louis, Calgary, Buffalo, Edmonton etc…

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  5. SmartDog says:

    You have to credit whatever influence Boivin had on the TEAM for the fact that the team is better now than it was when he found it. But really, his position as I understand it was more finance and marketing – and often just a rubber stamp to hockey decisions so I don’t get any negative reaction… unless you paid 150 bucks for one of those ugly anniversary jerseys and now feel like an idiot. That I get.

  6. fofe84 says:

    I always liked Lapierre. Sure, he dives, we all know that. But he plays a passionate game, and always seemed to step up for the playoffs. He was also one of our best on face-offs. I thought it was a mistake to trade him and still do. As long as I’m saying, “Hey, I was right about…”, when we traded O’Byrne, I was talking to my Dad about whether or not it was a good idea, and I said, “Sure, we’re not playing him at the moment, but what happens if one of our defencemen gets injured?”

    I’ve been wrong about a bunch of things but I’m not going to bore you with those details.

    • shiram says:

      Lapierre wanted to move so he could showcase his skills in his contract year, which JM was not giving him a chance to do.
      I’m not sure if he asked for a trade, but I think he talked it out with management and they basically traded him so he could try to get a big contract next season.

      O’byrne, well I’m still not convinced about that guy, and hindsight is 20/20, and he could not replace a Markov either…

      • fofe84 says:

        Yeah, but I’m not talking about hindsight, I’m talking about how I felt at the time. I’m not trying to say I’m a genius who always knows what to do; I think there was some guy named Sundin that I wanted the Habs to sign! Also, I was really excited when we thought Penner was traded to Montreal, and as it turns out, maybe it was better he wasn’t. Don’t worry, I’m wrong all the time!

        However, on O’Byrne, I still feel firmly that I was right. I’m not saying he’s a great player and I never came ANYWHERE near saying he could replace Markov, but we were ONE injury away from needing him when we traded him. It’s irresponsible to assume that none of your six defencemen will suffer a serious injury. I imagine Wisniewski was Gauthier’s attempt at temporarily replacing Markov, and Sopel was his attempt to temporarily replace Gorges. But it would have been much easier to just keep O’Byrne than to trade for Mara. Plus, he’s quite young, and defencemen age like wine.

        I think the rumours were that Lapierre asked for a trade. From a coaching perspective, I understand where JM was coming from, because coaches just worry about winning NOW. From a management perspective, though, Lapierre (26) is a more valuable player to keep around than Halpern (35), in my opinion. That being said, for all I know Gauthier tried to move someone else to keep Laps in the lineup, and couldn’t find a deal. They don’t really give us armchair GMs enough info to make a sound judgement. 🙂

    • Mike D says:

      I didn’t mind Lapierre and I loved him in the playoffs cuz he was so effective at getting under opponents skin, but we really didn’t need him. Plus, he asked to be traded cuz he wasn’t happy with his ice time.

      As for OB, no on could have anticipated that we would have had that many injuries on D. I actually think that the Habs did him a favour by giving him an opportunity to develop with another team and actually have an NHL career since it wasn’t looking that it was going to happen in Mtl. He started off well with the Avs, but was struggling again shortly after.

      – Honestly yours

  7. D Mex says:

    Must admit to being a bit surprised to see the Habs going along with this tactic (silence is implied agreement), altho they may not have much choice in the Buttman era.

    Just wondering : if Basha had purchased a licensed jersey, and hung it in the window overlooking Ste Catherine, would Buttman, Campbell and the other stooges down in NYC be on the hunt here … thoughts ?

    ALWAYS Habs –
    D Mex

    • HabsFan2 says:

      Buying a jersey means the person has already paid the licensing fee. Hence, no fine whatsoever.

      This is per Jordan Charness last night on CBC, I believe.

      I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

  8. DearyLeary says:

    According to Gord Miller from TSN, Julie isn’t counting Bergeron out of the game tonight.

    Poor bastard is going to have pudding for a brain by next year the way the Bruins treat their players.

    • shiram says:

      Funny typo with Julien there.
      Anyways, apparently if Bergeron is at the on ice practice just before the game, that means he’ll play.
      Seems like they are rushing him for sure, but I’m no brain expert either.

      • DearyLeary says:

        They accused us of rushing Max because he was watching a movie. I’d say that our concerns are a little more well founded.

        Also, that was no typo. haha

        • TommyB says:

          There’s always the chance that Bergeron was embellishing.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I heard Recchi had a look at him and told him to quit faking it.

            Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

        • shiram says:

          Saying it was a typo, was my safe route.

          Anyways since they hate Quebec so much, they’ll rush back their best (Quebecois) forward and ring out all they can from him, all in the name of the Cup!

          • DearyLeary says:

            I just have a feeling that Steve Downie is gonna ring Bergy’s bell again and it’ll put him out for the next season (which they’ll rush him back for).

            His fault for being a Bruin, I guess.

      • D Mex says:

        Final decision will be made by Dr Recchi …

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      It’s what you call a no-brainer.

      — formerly notbigbird —

  9. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Is that a recent picture of Boivin or a file photo? He has a “Ceasar” haircut and Tortuga rimmed round glasses more appropriate for circa 1990’s.

  10. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    I can’t say that I understand the Boivin hate.

    Do people not remember the depths to which Ronald Corey and Rejean Houle sank this franchise?

    There was a LOT of work to be done when Boivin got here. Bottom line, he has left the organization in a MUCH better position than what it was in when he got here.

    The fact that we haven’t won a cup since he was president should be considered, but it is not the be-all, end-all measure of success for his tenure.

    Other posters have gone into more detail, so I won’t repeat everything that was said, but Boivin did a GREAT job while he was here. It’s up to management to get us to the next level now.

    We have gotten ourselves out of the abyss and can now realistically dream of lifting the cup again. Before he got here, we weren’t far off from becoming the Leafs.

  11. mrhabby says:

    Never meet Boivin.
    If we judge him on the marketing side of things he made a crap load of money for Gillette and others.
    If we judge him on the one ice product for the past 12 years not very good at all. he was better than Ronald Corey but thats not saying much i guess. iam glad Geoff Molson has stepped in..i hope he sees the light and its not all $$$$….

    • LA Loyalist says:

      I am kind of going with the physicians’ motto: First Do No Harm

      Ronald Corey cost us Chris Chelios because of the situation in his marriage.

      Ronald Corey cost us Patrick Roy because he wasn’t wise enough or strong enough or diplomatic enough to deal with that situation which we all have burned into our retinas.

      Ergo, I think it reasonable to argue that Ronald Corey cost us at least 2 Stanley cups.

      Compared to that background, Boivin is freaking St. Francis of Assisi.

      That said, let’s give the Molsons a chance and say our prayers.

      • mrhabby says:

        LA..iam all about giving Molsons a chance. As chairman of the CH and lots of money invested he needs to be involved. That can be good or bad i guess but i think he really cares about the product on the ice and where the team is headed.

        Agree on the corey/houle years and all that fiasco with Roy…i shake my head when i think back what could have been…

  12. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Boivin really sounds full of himself. This is how I determine if his tenure (or anybody else’s, for that matter) was a success;
    Length of tenure = 12 years.
    No. of Stanley Cups = 0

    • Considering he wasn’t in charge of hockey operations, that’s an odd way to judge his tenure.

      • HabsFanInTampa says:

        You don’t need to agree with me. It’s just my opinion.

        • I have no problem with you having an opinion, I’m just questioning if it’s an informed one. You’re judging Boivin on a criteria that isn’t part of his job, is what I’m saying. I know people don’t ever admit they’re wrong or uninformed on the internet, but c’mon man.

        • Bill J says:

          I think Andrew nailed it in his reply, but seeing as I am growing tired of this LAME come back you (and others) have provided…

          In order to have an opinion, normally the people sharing their opinion MUST know something about what they are talking about.

          Otherwise, you’re just full of yourself & believe whatever opinion you have is reality.

          Oh BTW, Andrew’s entitled to think your method of judging Boivin is odd…. IT IS HIS OPINION! 😉

          • HabsFanInTampa says:

            I’m fine with Andrew’s entitlement to think of my judgment as odd and I don’t have a problem with it. That’s why I didn’t respond in a negative or positive way. I read his blog and moved on. 😉

      • Mark C says:

        Andrew, I personally blame the girl who leads the “exercise” in the stands during the home games. She is a big FAIL!

      • Timo says:

        I believe he is one that hires people in charge of hockey operations.

    • RetroMikey says:

      So true, Boivin was a failure IMO when he did not bring a Cup to MOntreal, but he did make alot of money for Gillett and himself during his tenure.
      It was all about making money for Boivin!
      If he was such a great President, why did the Molson brothers let him go?

      “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  13. SnowManHabs85 says:

    89,000? Wow, I better take down my Go ____Go painting on this side of the wall then…

    “Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock

  14. JD_ says:

    * Mmm…Basha’s.

    * “We sent a very clear message to a whole new bunch of players about what it means (to be a Canadien). The key is to have enough of them who ‘get it’ and make sure they’re in leadership positions.” Outgoin’ Habs president Pierre Boivin on how players – and, by extension, everyone else employed by the org – gettin’ it is the crucial first step. Boivin – who once told me the Habs may be owned by one individual, but they belong to the people of the province and beyond, and who noted his deep understandin’ of how thoughtful one has to be in operatin’ one of this country’s most prized assets – got it before he had the job, got it when he had it, and gets it now. He deserves all the high praise he’s receivin’.

    * Headline in the Gazoo this mornin’, “Bruins not changing plans after Game 1 defeat”. So, I take it they’re plannin’ to again get pwned in their own buildin’ and then lay down some cheap shots at game’s end? I mean, ok, it’s technically a plan, just not a very good one.

    * Said it the other night and continue to believe it would be fittin’ if the league were to consider forcin’ players who take aggression penalties within the last two minutes of a playoff series game to serve the entire penalty by havin’ the remanin’ time balance carry over to the beginnin’ of the next game. Guarantee you the Broonz would quickly reconsider the largely useless and ineffective exercise of runnin’ guys at the conclusion of a rout.

    * “That’s something we dont like to see and we don’t want to see, but he is a first-year player. He is a rookie and he is certainly learning. I am sure you are not going to see that again.” JM on Poindexter Bentley? No, Julien on Brad Marchand after the uglier version of PeeWee Herman pulled a hissy fit durin’ Game 1. Clearly, Claude is intent on ruinin’ the kid.


    * Just give ‘Peg its franchise and be over with it. Then the Jets can go out and sign Selanne to a one-year deal and all will be right again.

    * Speakin’ of the NHL, I can appreciate their motive in seekin’ to firm up their control of the product. What is irkin’, however, is their sloppy heavy-handedness as they attempt to do so. It’s just not good business to slap the little guy around, even if you’re totally within your rights to do so. I long ago abandoned any assumption the NHL braintrust spends even a dime on third-party PR advice.

    • Mike D says:

      Regarding your point about late-game aggression penalties being carried over into the next game:

      I like it. The only problem is that players will just likely start doing the same garbage a few minutes earlier in the game so that the 2min. are served before game’s end.

      – Honestly yours

      • coldness81 says:

        uhm, nah it’s just a hockey play…

      • JD_ says:

        Agreed. One can’t, however, realistically expect to eliminate all of the late-game crap from the game. I’m thinkin’ it would be a meaningful step towards stemmin’ it to the extent it’s a little bit harder for a team to throw in the towel with over two minutes to go.

        • Mike D says:

          Absolutely – It certainly would be a meaningful and positive step towards getting rid of some of the late-game goonery and I very much like the idea.

          As for when the goonery starts, it really all depends on the score. In a game with a 1-2 goal differential and team would wait until the last minute to give up on winning and go for the goonery. In a 3+ differential game the whole 3rd period might be a goon-show depending on the teams involved.

          Since some teams like Boston and Philly prefer to employ goon-tactics (and have throughout their history) it’s not likely a culture change is going to take place to stop that crap. At that point I think the refs should be empowered to step in and go to the offending team’s coach and advise them they are aware of what’s being attempted and have the power to suspend a player and fine the team if it continues (real fines, not the BS couple-a-thousand that even the players laugh at).

          – Honestly yours

    • punkster says:

      I feel odd responding to you, JD, as so few people take the time to do so. I wonder why that is?
      Anywhooo…as I said to Josh way down below, backing up opinion with facts and in particular first hand observation is against HI/O policy. Your realistic views on Boivin’s tenure are disturbing and I will request the NHL issue a cease and desist order against you for fouling the Habs, er…I mean…HOCKEY Inside/Out site.

      Remember, it’s a Subbang world out there and we only rent our small and meaningless space in it.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • JD_ says:

        I believe – and this is purely speculation, on my part – it may have somethin’ to do with my massively inflated ego.

        That along with the fact Star Wars is not historically accurate.

  15. coldness81 says:

    I have to say that i agree with the nhl and it’s stance on it’s trade marks. Now i do think companies should be warned first before being sued though. But it is wrong to use another companies marketing to strengthen you business.

    imagine if the NHL went after the city of montreal last year when fans decided to use a player’s trade marked name on stop signs lol

    • Mike D says:

      Do you really think Basha’s business was strengthened because the guy in the sign was wearing a Habs jersey though? I have a hard time believing that a hungry peson (even a die-hard Habs fan) who would not have otherwise eaten there was walking by one day and said, “Wait, they support the Habs? Okay I’ll eat here then”.

      If an unaffiliated business PROFITS by incorporating a team’s logo into their business somehow, then I can see your point. Thing is, you still have to PROVE they profitted from it.

      In Basha’s case, a fine is completely unwarranted. They could have simply advised him he was in violation of trademark laws and asked him to change the sign while thanking him for being a fan – no harm, no foul. Lawyers and Execs are supposed to be intelligent people so I’m sure they knew deep down that Basha’s sign was nothng more than a show of support for the team. It’s disgusting what they did.

      – Honestly yours

      • coldness81 says:

        “Do you really think Basha’s business was strengthened because the guy in the sign was wearing a Habs jersey though?”

        My answer to this one is yes. the logo, the team are all part of a brand. Maybe the dude from basha wasn’t trying to take advantage of it. however, the bottom line is he used the habs brand name and power to promote his business.

        i too think a letter prompting him to remove it first would have been a better idea. Although i’m not a trademark lawyer, so maybe this is common practice or something like that. What i am saying is i do think what basha did was wrong weither intentional or not.

  16. nek25plus says:

    Look..Bettman is just a hot dog salesman. That being said he has the ear of all the lower end teams in the U.S. He uses them (over 50% of them)to do what he and Chairman / Bruins owner, Jeremy Jocobs want. They need his money, we don’t. That is why he doesn’t want more Canadian teams /owners. (Winnipeg, Hamilton etc) He needs the balance of power to remain with them.

    This year when the Pacioretty incident happened they could not control the posters and blogers and in turn the media frenzy. They were overtaken. Hence, the crackdown on use of logo’s etc. They see it as a way of keeping the “media balance of power” on their side as well. They have already rendered TSN to puppet status (with the head puppet being Darren Dreiger). CBC, well it’s the CBC.

    He’s a weasel with out a doubt…but he a weasel that is winning the battle.

    Keep blogging and posting people…you he can’t control!

  17. habs365 says:

    I have nothing against tough hockey, hard clean body checks—if you can’t play tough hang up your skates—what I don’t like is cheap shots like pacioretty, crosby, savard and a few others. this stuff has to be taken out of hockey as will as the goons—sooner this happens the better—than we can watch real hockey again with lots of speed and clean hits…..

  18. habs001 says:

    well with the cap the nhl has achieved the fact that above average teams can win the cup as all 4 teams left in the final are nothing special…the cap has made the richer teams finances better but has done nothing for about 10 teams that are in bad financial shape….in my mind if the hawks had last years line up they would have won the cup this year….if this cap thing continues we will have the same thing struggle and finally have a great team win the cup and the following year lose major players…

    • coldness81 says:

      it’s all about making smart signings. chicago put money in the wrong players. not the NHL’s fault that they are paying campbell and hosa a crap load of money and kept Hjalmarsson over Byfuglien

      • Mike D says:

        I agree with you, except for the Hossa thing. He has one of those BS contracts that should never have been allowed by the league where his salary drops like a ton of bricks in the last few years (when he might even be retired). His salary starting from last year up until the 2015-2016 season is 7.9mil, but his cap hit is only 5.233mil.

        Picking Hjalmarsson over Buff was a terrible move, but in all fairness, Buff’s cap hit starting next year is 5.2mil, where as Hjal’s is only 3.5mil. They would have had to part with another big piece to keep Buff. Likely would have been worth it, but the fact still remains.

        When they initially signed Campbell he was considered one of the top Dmen in the league and CHI was in need of good players cuz their roster back then wasn’t anything like it was last year or this year. It’s not their fault that Campbell decided to bitch out after getting his big pay day and stop playing like he can.

        – Honestly yours

        • coldness81 says:

          i always thought campbell was more of a offensive powerplay specialist. when he signed that contract, i was shocked that he got something above 5.

          • Mike D says:

            He is/was an offensive Dman. They’re the ones that get paid the most among Dmen (especially if they are good defensively too). Have a look at all of the top-paid Dmen in the league and you’ll see that the most consistent thing they have in common is offensive upside. Much more so than size and physical play.

            – Honestly yours

  19. Timo says:

    Pride?! What a load of crap. Since Boivin took over Habs won what, grand total of 5 playoff series I think. That’s in 12 years. Yeah, there is something to be proud off.
    He tenure was marked by one spectacular management failure after another. Thanks for everything Pierre, don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

  20. daveho29 says:

    I painted a Habs logo(poorly done) on my beer mug a the Howe Sound Brew pub here in Squamish about 5 years ago and it has been hanging there ever since.
    If the nhl slaps a fine on me based on the amount of beer I’ve consumed out of it I’ll have to declare bankruptcy.

  21. wall2bay says:

    If I were Fadl Issa, I would counter sue and make this a discrimination case. The whole city is covered with Habs logo and they decide to go after the pic that has an arab guy cutting meat? I’m not one that likes to play the race card but maybe it’ll send these guys a message that this is getting a little ridiculous! What about the buses with “Go Habs Go”? What about the fire trucks with Habs flags hanging in the back? Hell…..what about the strippers in tight sexy Habs apparels?

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

    • naweed235 says:

      I think the difference with the Basha case as opposed to all the other things you mention is that They integrated the logo into their own trademarked logo and used it as advertising…

    • HabsFan2 says:

      The STM paid for the right to flash Go Habs Go signs on their buses. Flags or any other merchandise that has been bought and paid for is okay to hang anywhere.

      Painting a Habs jersey on a store figure is false advertising as it makes it seem that the Habs are affiliated with the restaurant.
      I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

  22. HabinBurlington says:

    Don’t normally care to listen to Pierre McGuire, but heard him today talking about Jay Feaster in Calgary as new GM. Pierre said Jay better draft better in Calgary than Tampa cuz his drafting there was terrible. I looked it up, holy cow – Anyone who thinks we drafted bad, check out Jay’s drafts as GM from 2002 through 2008. He made 1 good pick, Steve Stamkos with the #1 pick. Maybe Dustin Tokarski becomes a big league goalie. Other wise pure Kife!

    Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

    • Mark C says:

      Yikes, Paul Ranger was the best player drafted until Stamkos.

      If you did that exercise with bunch teams, you could quickly realize that Montreal does a fine job at drafting.

  23. HabinBurlington says:

    I am guessing we won’t see a weasel in any upcoming National Geographic specials or Hinterland Who’ Who unless they paying Bettman. Too bad…

    Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

  24. Mattyleg says:

    Here’s the little blurb on the bottom of the website:

    “ is the official web site of the National Hockey League. NHL, the NHL Shield, the word mark and image of the Stanley Cup, Center Ice name and logo, NHL Conference logos and NHL Winter Classic name are registered trademarks and Vintage Hockey word mark and logo, Live Every Shift, Hot Off the Ice, The Game Lives Where You Do, NHL Power Play, NHL Winter Classic logo, NHL Heritage Classic name and logo, NHL All-Star Game logo, NHL GameCenter, NHL GameCenter Live, NHL Premiere name and logo, NHL Network, NHL Mobile name and logo, NHL Radio, NHL Awards name and logo, NHL Draft name and logo, Hockey Fights Cancer, NHL All-Access Vancouver name and logo, NHL Ice Time, Ice Time Any Time, Ice Tracker, Questions Will Become Answers, History Will Be Made and NHL Light The Lamp name and logo are trademarks of the National Hockey League. All NHL logos and marks and NHL team logos and marks depicted herein are the property of the NHL and the respective teams and may not be reproduced without the prior written consent of NHL Enterprises, L.P. © NHL 2011. All Rights Reserved. All NHL team jerseys customized with NHL players’ names and numbers are officially licensed by the NHL and the NHLPA. The Zamboni word mark and configuration of the Zamboni ice resurfacing machine are registered trademarks of Frank J. Zamboni & Co., Inc. © Frank J. Zamboni & Co., Inc. 2011. All Rights Reserved.”

    …that just about covers it, eh?

    Hmm… I wonder whether reproducing THAT is illegal.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  25. NLhabsfan says:

    Just a thought what determined 89 thousand…What criteria did they use.What % do the Canadiens get.What % does the NHL get. What % go to the worst of the teams .What % goes for the collection fees., lawyers for collection fees is go habs go OK.What size determines value cost of signs. What a pile of crap …jeez got nothing better to do…give it a break just how LOW can you go…next thing they will probably want dibs on my tattoo.:)

    • wall2bay says:

      $89K worth of shawarma sandwiches were bought as a result of that ad.

      “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  26. Mattyleg says:

    I’ll say it again:
    Neither the Montreal Canadiens nor the NHL should have copyright over something invented by other people.
    Go Habs Go is something that people have chanted at Canadiens games for decades. How can they copyright a slogan they didn’t come up with?
    Crack out the lawyers!!
    What team is going to copyright “Yay!”?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  27. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    So according to the guy who wrote that article speculating that the Panthers may be next offers attendance as his only reason? I’ll believe it when I hear the Panther ownership talk about selling and moving. Funny how this guy writing the article doesn’t quote any sources from the team or the NHL. So if the Panthers not so great attendance means they are gonna move, what about the 8 other teams with worse attendance than them??? Where’s the articles claiming they will be on the move? I wouldn’t hold your breath waiting for the Panthers to move.

    2010-2011 Attendance

    22 Panthers – 15,685
    23 Stars – 15,073
    24 Avalanche – 14,820
    25 Devils – 14,775
    26 Ducks – 14,738
    27 Blue Jackets – 13,658
    28 Thrashers – 13,469
    29 Coyotes – 12,188
    30 NY Islanders – 11,059

    • twocents says:

      The Islanders, holy crap!

      Does that dude have bottomless pockets?
      He clearly has questionable judgement, what with the snowman running things.

      Holy schmokers!

    • Mike D says:

      It’s amazing how inflated some of those numbers are. I can’t speak about all the teams on that list, but there’s no way the Panthers, Blue Jackets, Thrashers, Coyotes, or Islanders averaged over 10,000. Hell, some of them are lucky if they averaged 5000.

      The NHL is so dishonest and completely bush-league on so many things. What a shame that such a wonderful sport has been reduced to what it is.

      – Honestly yours

      • _Habsoloutly_ says:

        I’m a Panthers season ticket holder. Those numbers aren’t inflated. They average well over 10,000 a game.

        • Mike D says:

          Hey, I can’t really argue with you since you’re actually IN the arena, but doesn’t look anything remotely close to that on TV.

          Out of curiousity, is that the attendance they typically announce?…Or does the arena actually look to have that many people?

          I ask because you say the number isn’t inflated and they do average 15,685 people, but the BankAtlantic Center’s capacity for hockey is only 17,040 which means that they almost sell-out every game. I really have a hard time believing that.

          – Honestly yours

          • _Habsoloutly_ says:

            No they don’t get that number every game, thats just the average. The games they sell out help bump up the average of the games they don’t sell out. It’s the same for all the teams. There are a lot of people here in south florida who aren’t from south florida. You get a lot of Canadians and a lot of Americans who move here for the weather. It’s not just the Canadian teams that fill the arena. It’s usually packed for teams like Pittsburgh, Wahington, New York and other teams. As a season ticket holder I get certain privileges, I get to go to meet and greets with the GM, and I get invited to other events. I’ve met Dale Talon, and I’ve met JM when he was here. I talk to people down here and from what they tell me the Panthers have great corporate sponsors. Plus they do a lot of other business at the Bank Atlantic center like concerts and such. The people who own the building also own the Panthers so there is money coming in. I’m not saying the Panthers are doing awesome, but they are doing better than most people are led to believe.

      • hdcase says:

        Those stats are probably inflated by businesses who own season tickets. If they can give the tickets away, they do. If they can’t give the tickets away, the seat goes empty but the ticket is still paid for.


  28. RetroMikey says:

    My greeting to the overrated Pierre Boivin…..C YA! BA BA BYE!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • Exit716 says:

      You preferred the other team president that sold Patrick Roy for the equivalent of Dollarama items?

    • stevieray says:

      I agree Mikey !..talking about weighing a anchor …I call the anchor Gomez !!

      • Mattyleg says:

        Yeah, really! Because the President makes the trades! Right!

        (agreeing without thinking seems to be the thing to do)

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Exit716 says:

          The previous team president Corey sent Roy packing for a bunch of garbage.

          • HabsFanInTampa says:

            Correction: Roy AND Captain Keane for a bunch of garbage.

          • RetroMikey says:

            And Corey won 2 Stanley Cups and was more of a passionate Habs Prez than that putz in Boivin! It was all about money for Boivin to work with Gillett and not cater to the fans!

            “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

      • nek25plus says:

        Certainly your hockey IQ extends beyond the constant need to berate and blame Gomez!

    • joshua94k says:

      Pierre Boivin has done a lot of good things as President of the Canadiens. When he started his term, it was not a promising situation in 1999. The economic times were not favourable with a weak dollar and high taxes. Players were reluctant to play for Montreal with the added pressure of a demanding fan base.

      When Boivin joined the Canadiens, the team did not sell-out its home games, the team was losing money, key players such as Deshardins, LeClaire, Turgeon, Carbonneau, Roy were traded because of their salary demands (on this insistence of Ronald Corey). It was a bleak situation in the mid to late 90s.

      With new owner Gillette, he and Boivin started to turn things around.

      In 2001, Boivin founded the Montreal Canadiens Children’s Foundation. Since its inception, the Foundation has donated $10 million to support 400 Quebec-based organizations dedicated to improving the well-being of sick and underprivileged children.

      In 2008, the Bleu Blanc Bouge program was introduced with the objective of building five refrigerated outdoor multipurpose rinks in less privileged neighborhoods in the Montreal area.

      The Centennial celebrations were very successful in recognizing the rich history the team has. Naysayers can complain about the overkill but which team has more Hall of Famers, more retired jerseys, and more Stanley Cups. Which team has changed the game for the better with Plante, Richard, Beliveau, Lafleur etc.

      However the fan base grew during Boivin’s tenure. Legendary broadcaster Dick Irvin says that he has followed the Canadiens since the 1940s and he has never seen the passion for this team as high as it is now. Not in the 50s or 70s. Every game, exhibition, regular or play-off is sold out, even with every game telecast on TV. A regular season game in the Bell Centre seems more exciting than a play-off game for the Vancouver Canucks.

      Even CBC had televised more Canadiens games than any other team during the 2010-2011 season. More than the Leafs or Canucks. Whether it is merchandisng or Facebook, the Canadiens are ranked at the top.

      His signing of Bob Gainey was a strong point. Critics can say what they want about his tenure, but after he joined Boivin, attendance and passion for the team increased. Price, Subban, Cammalleri, Gionta, Pacioretty etc have embraced this city and the fans love them. They follow Boivin’s message of never giving up and playing till the end, as this year’s play-offs have showed.

      “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

      • punkster says:

        Employing facts to support your opinion on HI/O is against the rules. I’m calling for the mods to delete this post and insert a classic rant in its place.
        (Well stated Josh!)

        ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  29. daveho29 says:

    Not smart on the nhl’s part, they want us to spend our hard earned money on tickets and merchandise and support their product, then when you do show support they slap a lawsuit on you. If I was lawyer I represent this guy pro bono.

    Maybe one the Boys over a FHF will step up 😉

    Can’t wait to hear what Don Cherry has to say on the subject, if anything.

  30. joeybarrie says:

    BASHA DAY. We all go and get ourselves a Shawarma or Shish Taouk and donate a few dollars to the GO HABS GO BASHA fund. The fund goes to the Lawyer who can prove the league singled out Basha on some sort of illegal ground (religion, national origin or something), cause there is no way they should go after them and not the HUNDREDS of other places we see Habs logos and slogans. Ridiculous. I drew a Habs logo on the wall of my house last season when we beat Washington. HOW MUCH DO I OWE THE NHL???

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  31. habitual says:

    Let’s think about something cheerful and energizing:

    Atlanta, Florida, Phoenix, possibly Columbus … so at least 4 NHL franchises on life support with no fan interest. Surely nothing of the sort exists in the NBA, or the NFL. The NHL Governors, finally tired of their pockets being picked by Bettman’s incompetent marketing plan, throw him out of the window of a tall building.

    The Defenestration of Bettman. Nice ring to it, yes?

  32. TheLogician says:

    so let me get this straight…

    “habs inside out” is not ok.

    but “bruins blog” is?

    ok, got it then. that makes sense.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Habs Inside Out was tackled by the Canadiens organization.
      If the Bruins don’t like that blog, they can do the same thing.
      I don’t know why they would, because it’s stupid to do.
      Much like what the Montreal Canadiens did.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  33. habs365 says:

    Getting off the topic a little—I had a dream about how the new look Habs are gonna be for 2011-2012

    Cammalleri – Plekanec – Laich
    Pacioretty – Fleischmann – Gionta
    Darche – Desharnais – Pouliot
    Konopka – Eller – White
    Pyatt – Moen

    Markov – Gorges
    Gill – Subban
    Yemelin – Diaz

    Gomez-bought out, Halpern-traded, Kostitsyn-traded, Hamrlik-traded or just let go, Spacek-traded or asked to retire and the Wiz let go for cap reasons…

    But I’m afraid it was only a dream.

    • habs03 says:

      Halpern,Hamrlik are UFA to be, you are not getting anything, Fleischmann is toooo soft to play Center imo.

      I’d would love
      Pouliot-Eller-Eric Fehr
      Moen-RH Center (if not DD)-White-
      ex Darce Pyatt


      • baruch says:

        ackkk why do both of you still have Pouliot on the team?

        Cammy Plek Darche
        MaxPac Gomer Gio
        Moen Eller Joel Ward(NSH)
        White DD Ian Schultz

        Markov Gorges
        Gill Subban
        (Spacehead) Weber Emelin?

    • Mike D says:

      Spacek is on a 35+ contract which means that if he retires we only save a measily 100k on the cap.

      Also not sure why you have Diaz in the top 6 for the D and Weber as the extra. Weber has NHL experience and I’m sure he would crack the top 6 before Diaz would.

      – Honestly yours

      • habs365 says:

        Mike: this Diaz thing depends on training camp—whom ever proves to be the best out of yemelin, weber, Diaz would be paired up for the 3rd set of Dman—spacek is a age thing and we gotta get younger back there—when spacek or Hamrlik joins in the rush they can’t get back and creates to many two on one’s and the goalie is hung out to dry—other than that they’re ok…..

        • Mike D says:

          I completely agree with you on the age thing which is why I don’t see Hamr being brought back. I do see Gill coming back though. I’m sure PG would trade Spacek if he could but it’s not likely to happen and I’m not sure the team wants to pay a guy 3.83mil to sit in the pressbox.

          I think Weber would have to clear waivers to get sent back down and it’s pointless to have him sit in the pressbox cuz he’s young, talented, and needs playing time to develop. Diaz doesn’t have to clear waivers and he would be well-served to get acclimated to NA ice against weaker competition before playing in the bigs. I agree that training camp will have a say in who stays, plays, and gets sent down, but I don’t see Diaz getting a spot over Weber. Only time will tell of course. It sounds like Emelin will get a spot cuz of the whole going-back-to-the-K-instead-of-Hamilton thing.

          – Honestly yours

  34. Ian Cobb says:

    When is the NHL going to file charges on our kids and sue for making HAB”S signs??

    The mob once ruled Chicago and N.Y. in years gone by, they now rule the NHL. Most corruption in any sport anywhere.

    Where is Molson on this subject???? Is there a reporter in the house??

    • DearyLeary says:

      You obviously haven’t watched Italian Football. Oh, and in the NBA we’ve found refs on the take.

      I really do want to hear the Molsons’ opinion on this. If they want to lie down for the NHL and its lawsuit, I fear our ownership situation has taken a turn for the worse.

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Your correct about other sports, but I do know first hand how dirty hockey is behind the scene.

        • Mike D says:

          That’s true, Ian. And the worst part is that it’s not just corrupt at the upper playing levels, even local pee-wee and midget teams have corruption and politics going on.

          – Honestly yours

      • Clay says:

        The NBA refs were found to be on the take when Bettman was in charge…just sayin’.

        The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  35. Tighthead says:

    Trademarks are strange. If you are aware of an infringement, you have to take action. There is a positive duty to protect it or lose it.

    Copyright is different – you can selectively enforce that.

    • Malreg says:

      It’s not just the Canadiens… A car dealership in Vancouver receive a cease and desist order from the league beacuse he put the Canucks logo on the front of his dealer ship with “Go Canucks Go”.

      The only thing I don’t understand is why he receive a letter telling him to stop, and why Basha’s received a fine without warning.

    • pmaraw says:

      jose bautista had a bat-trick the other day, 3 home runs

  36. Habfan4lfe says:

    As far as I am concerned and I am sure many other hab fans are. Good riddance.

  37. Propwash says:

    So, will the STM get sued if they put “Go Canadiens Go!” on the signs in front of the busses?

  38. jimmy shaker says:

    With this jabroni gone, does he take with him the french speaking coach policy with him as well?


    • of course, bill 101 will also be dismantled and toronto will begin its reverse exodus

      • jimmy shaker says:

        Cool, sounds good to me! I’ve hated that policy the very first time I heard that it was in place for the canadiens.


        • lolwat? i was being sarcastic

          and its easy to hate policy when you dont live here

          • jimmy shaker says:

            Just playing along with you…….I figured that comment was going to come up. I live about 9 hours away by car and only about 2 or 3 by plane……so I’m not that far away from the hockey centre of the league. Expalin to me why it’s such an important policy to someone who lives in habville.


          • eric says:

            I’d rather win the A cup with whoever

          • daveho29 says:

            I was born and lived the first 23 years of my life in Montreal so feel I have a right to hate that policy. Limiting yourself to just French coaches and gm’s is a stupid policy.
            If they are English and don’t speak French I’m sure they can learn.

          • im not discussing my opinion of the language situation am merely pointing out the reality

            the coaches ability to speak french was not something mandated by boivin nor will it dissipate with his departure

            this is how it is in montreal, regardless of how one feels about it

  39. HalifaxHabs says:

    The Bruins are a disgrace

    • pat s says:

      I understand the hatred towards Boston b/c as a hab fan it is a given that they are not well liked but this blog and media is at times ridiculous. It makes Montreal fans look like a bunch of sucks and whiners. Ok, we lost to Boston, fine, let’s move on. Some posts saying they have no class, or they play dirty is a joke, it sounds like you want them to change their style of play. News flash, the Bruins will not change their style of play and they shouldn’t. Their fan base would lose it–it will cost them money. Another news flash, blue collar teams that play in your face hockey will win more times than they lose against “play nice Billy” hockey teams such as ours. Just look at who is the final 4. Every team can play in your face blue collar hockey. It doesn’t work this play nice hockey. The sooner the habs and most hab fans realize this, the better. Stop trashing Boston and start telling Montreal to change their philosophy to a more blue collar team.

      This stubbornness is making all of us suffer. Enough is enough.

      • LL says:

        Out of the four teams left, only Boston comes remotely close to being considered a “goon” team. The 3 others are tough but not out to injure or maim other players, not regularly at least. By the way “tough” Philly has been eliminated.

        Out of the four left , the Bruins are the least organized team, therefore based on this, I don’t see them winning the cup this year. If they do, who cares?

        I agree our team needs to get tougher guys to make our smaller guys more “comfortable” Toughness works, but goonery doesn’t beat skill. And who’s whinin’ ?

      • NLhabsfan says:

        Wrong on so many levels I can begin to explain.Blue collar teams that play in your face hockey will win more times than they lose against. Gee what ill informed comment. Class is what wins the day for me.Don’t what to change their stye of play …just find their media and fans obnoxious. Simple as that.

        • Tony McLean says:

          Talent ALWAYS wins unless goonery (and enabling officiating) gets them off their game. Bruins were the model for Philadelphia. For that alone they should be despised for eternity. Those meatheads have forgotten Orr and Esposito – they worship O’Reilly and Wensink.

          Props to “Canadiens South.” Away les boys!

          • pat s says:

            Guys, your confusing blue collar hockey with goon hockey. That is the mistake. Who is on the golf course–the habs and you still want to argue this point. I’m talking blue collar players that can sustain the physical element of the game, and able to control the ice, the habs completely lack this.

            Of course you need talent, but you need the physical, blue collar players–ie clowe, horton, kessler etc. These guys play hard. We better accept this very quickly or next year it will be the same story. Montreal seems to do well in the regular season but when the intensity goes up, they are done. Look at the teams that have won the cup in the past, almost every team had 2 lines that are capable to play in your face hockey. In Montreal, there is a fan base that strictly wants that speed, play nice european model and that is who the habs are appeasing–a joke–it doesn’t work–the writing is on the wall.

            Why have we lost to either the flyers or bruins in the playoffs for the past 4 years? Physicalplay, that’s why.

            And you know what is funny, when Gainey signed Laraque( a goon) there must have been 400 comments saying what a great move, and yet I read how Boston is a goon team. I’ll take Sean Thorton on my team any day of the week. He can play and he can control the ice. Our 86/93 team had these type of players(Nilan, McPHee, Odelyn Skrudland), why b/c Serge Savard loved that type of hockey. And we better change fast b/c if not our draft picks and free agent signings are going to reflect this speed play nice hockey bs and we are going to be on the golf course again. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

            That is why I loved that Tinordi draft pick. He is mean, but he can play. Hopefully, he can play in the NHL

            (sorry about spelling mistakes, no time to edit)

  40. kempie says:

    You know, for such a smart guy, Bettman sure is a moron.

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