The goaltender was at his best against a relentless Pittsburgh attack.
Nothing much he could do on Jordan Staal’s third-period goal.
Nor on the Kris Letang goal in OT, which should have been whistled
Shots were 41-27
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Buffalo is missing nine regulars and yet they manage to rout the capitals. Never underestimate how important heart is. Habs, despite just average talent, have had plenty of heart the previous two seasons. This year´s team has more talent. On the heart side, they´ve mailed in maybe two games all season and never quit. Yet compared to the previous two seasons, they do seem to come up wanting so far. I believe they will get “it” back…just too many leaders in the dressing room for that not to happen.
The biggest culprit has definitely been the power play. How many games did they lose by one or two goals where the power play went 0 for 4,5, or 6? If the PP had been just average over the last 23 games, that´s a two or three game swing right there.
Statisticians will say that the effect of a star player´s absence is overrated, maybe makes a difference of 6 or 7 goals a year, maybe 2 or 3 games in the standings.
But anyone watching the hab´s power play can actually FEEL how many games the lack of a quarterback is costing them…and it´s alot more than 2 or 3 games a year in the standings.
Stats, at least in hockey, are very generalized and still aren´t very useful in quantifying specific situations of specific teams.
Still, even without Markov and the other injured players, I feel we should be slightly ahead of where we are.
How can lifting your elbow, sticking out your leg, lunging toward the player and contacting the head skating in opposite directions with time to soften it, resulting in a broken nose and possible concussion symptoms be legal. I think you had to many head shots in pee wee as you are still no thinking right. I think he should get at least ten games for that.
Leftwinger
Cammy better hope Gomez returns soon! Or else all eyes are on his piss poor play!
Has anyone noticed that its been like this for almost 2 years?
Park his butt in the press box and have him watch a few games…..
Nice to see Camalleri following in the footsteps of Gomez… This guy is awful! The only good thing he has is a wicked shot, but he seldom hits the target. Another over paid, self-absorbed bum. Hand lotion and chapstick? Focus on the game Mike, not your precious looks… What a joke.
I’ve got to ask… Where did these guys learn to play hockey? And by these guys I specifically refer to Gill, Weber and the other two clowns who stood around waiting for the whistle while Letang, a real hockey player, did what anyone chasing a piece of vulcanized rubber should do… and that’s bury the F-ing thing!!!!
So your goalie has the puck but he can’t locate it. What do you do? Do you stand around like some tourist or do you ID the nearest guy wearing the wrong colours and neutralise him?
WTF? Bunch of tourists!!!
We are the softest team in the league by a country mile! I feel sorry for Price for having to put up with gutless crap like we just witnessed…
Chris Letang isn’t Chara or Lucic or Orpik. He’s very good, but seriously… you can’t put your Sherwood square across his chest and thump him to the ice when it matters?!
After decades of watching the Habs I cannot understand why we think Grade A chickens will magically turn into eagles. Can we please draft guys who play the game well passed the whistle!
Aarrgh! Evenbee leaguers get this. If you’re going to get near our goalie you’ll pay. You might score, but you’ll earn it on the way… OMFG!
Logically, it was quite impressive We earned a point tonight
…We played a team that was at or near the top of the NHL overall point-wise for most of this season …playing WITHOUT Crosby, Malkin and/or Stall
…now they are back …3 studs that would be number-one at centre on most other NHL teams, all on one team, spread over 3 lines
…and, We were a mistake and a blown call from gaining 2 points
…does Our talent match theirs ? …not even close
…disappointing Camalleri is playing like a dog now …I liked the ‘single focused’ Cammy much better than this ‘preoccupied married/daddy’ Cammy He is playing-like now
…and, wish We had the NJ Devil’s version of Brian Gionta (or, Gomez for that matter) …We have the aging version that I suppose no longer can We expect every night
…the unremitting over-the-top expectations of Montreal’s Fans also are a load of bullshit which some of Our Players very likely find difficult to balance with Their enthusiasm to play for Us, and over-time leads to ‘burn-out’ at some point
…Carey Price, great game, …but He has to learn that He is too laconic at times …taking for granted nominal coverage of the puck is expected to draw a stoppage …bring Your paddle across to cover Your glove …something ! …I think He will not make same mistake again
…if only Cammy, Gionta and Gomez had the drive and dynamism of Cole, which at the beginning of the season I was anticipating
…if only Cole had ‘the hands’ to compliment His speed and drives to the net …great shot, but in close rather clumsy
…to Me, the best D shown this season was the young ‘NHL inexperienced” group of Weber, Diaz, Emelin, Gorges/PK (the exceptions), and St. Denis …individually the new Guys are still learning, but as a group They seemed the best ‘collective’ combination of skill and puck-moving skill to productively compliment Our forwards
…Gill (though I love Him) I feel has negated the collective efficiency of that group
…though I respect Jacques Martin for being a stolid calm Coach that got Our Team to look promising and admittedly further than most of Our expectations, considering Our transition post-the Gomez trade …but, as a Montreal Canadien’s Fan it is painful watching Us turtle within attempted defensive-shells when in a goal or two goal lead, which predictably result in the opposition taking advantage of same …it just is completely counter-intuitive to any Real Hab Fan’s appreciation of ‘style’ We expect from Our Habs
…either Jacques must allow the offensive talent to show their talent or, speaking for Myself, this Fan will find watching the Montreal Canadiens too painful to watch
…Geoff Molson, …if He is going to be a proactive and an involved Owner, He hopefully is evaluating the ‘entertainment-value’ of Our Team, as well as the goal to once more be an elite NHL Team
…unless there is a collective turn-around, at this time, I don’t see We will qualify as a playoff Team
…re Our Fans, as far as Our Fans are concerned, I think there are many great Habs’ Fans, as We see contributing here on a daily basis, participating in the recent Summit, and many many others more silently and classily around the world whom support Our Team whether win or lose …but as well there too many loud-mouthed, over-wrought, ugly Fans whom do not help Our Team succeed
…somehow, those Ugly Hab Fans have chosen somewhere along the way to be insanely obsessive over a Team beloved for being ‘classy’ …yet, They, Themselves, have no intimacy with WHAT the word means, otherwise They would not talk as abusively or obscenely as They do about Our Players and Organization
…be frustrated, criticize, express rational alternatives to improve and better Our Players’ product and success on the ice, but I was especially sickened as a Fan with watching that gang-up and boots to the head on that Bruins Fan whether he obnoxiously ‘deserved’ it or not …outraged the Bell Centre’s Security let everyone walk-way without holding ALL for police
…some of Our Fans think because They are Habs’ Fans that ‘class’ comes for Themselves automatically with the gig …instead They are too dense to realize the embarrassing of the Legacy hard-earned by Our great Players and previous builders of Our Montreal Canadiens
(sorry for the extra, I guess unfocused rant …just watched belatedly the video of the fight in the stands during the Bruins game …and, it peed Me off
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Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049
Patches and Cole are on fire.
Moen playing like it’s a contract year or something…
Soft defensive zone play on Pittsburgh’s second goal. Very soft.
The hit on Letang was clean but unfortunate.
Another soft 3rd period.
Puck should have been whistled dead in OT.
Still, the better team won.
E.
can’t believe what some of you are arguing about!
That line of Plekanec-Cammy-Gionta was awful and needs to broken up. Switch up Cammy and Patches and bring up Blunden. Send down Palushaj.
At least the power play tried Subban and Eller for a change. Both were nervous as hell. That’s what happens when certain players get electric shocks for errors while Gomez and Darche get food pellets.
Two of the Habs goals scored tonight were essentially tic-tac-toe plays although in each case the tic was a rebound pass.
But the line of Plex, Cammy and Gionta really sucked. Did I say that?
“Bring up Blunden”..ha ha hha hhaha ha..hear that boys “bring up Blunden” ha ha hha hah aha ha….you do comedy at that Montreal just for laughs gig don’t you….”bring up Blunden” and plan tha parade down Ste. Cathy’s…Blunden and his 4:30 min per game should solve the habs problems…unreal buddy, try name change to HardHead
JM is that you?
The 4 minutes of ice time was Martin’s doing after the hit in New York. Prior to that and during the winning streak he was playing solid 4th line minutes. You do remember what a 4th line is don’t you?
Change your name to seenothingman.
Tough call on the Patches hit.
Tough call on the winning goal that should have been blown dead.
EASY call on the worst Canadien this season BY FAR – can anyone guess? ….. I’ll wait…. Correct – Cammalleri. He is TERRIBLE. So weak. Gives up the puck constantly. Soft passes. Dumb plays. Man I can’t sand that guy. For whomever thinks our captain sucks, Gionta is not even close. Cammalleri should be traded ASAP.
Pacioretti should made a text book hit of what is a head shot. Before Shannahan was in place he would have had his teeth knocked out. If he needs to get a harsh suspension for his dangerous antics. Saying sorry is just plain acting for this mommies boy.
Leftwinger
Just back from the game, had a great time, tough loss…
Was right above the winning OT goal, seemed like the puck was covered.
Made it home in time to hear PJ Stock claiming that Patches should have gotten 5 minutes and the game. Milbury agreed. No surprise there.
All this chatter about the Pacioretty hit is a little disturbing. Clean hit – PERIOD.
First: Letang looked up, saw Pacioretty, put his head down, and proceeded.
Second: Pacioretty did not lead with any part of his body to Letang’s head.
Three: There was no intent to injure. At no time did Pacioretty attempt to lift his elbow into Letang’s head.
Outside of that – the failure to blow the whistle was ridiculous. Calls like that should be reviewable IMHO.
Yes – the team slowed up and was on it’s heels for periods of the game, but so was Pittsburgh (who is the best in the league).
More important to look at right now is how to fix the ailing powerplay. You can read my thoughts on that here:
http://bit.ly/vlHv7Y – “Montreal Canadiens Power-Play is Most Damaging.”
Feel free to leave your thoughts!
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hey i’m the first one to say old time hockey is the best, but come on man, that was head shot–we can’t have it both ways on this website–cry the blues when it happens to our team but when we do it its a clean hit
that was clear head shot—-i know the player didn’t get hurt but thats a head shot
I agree there was contact to the head, but the fact of the matter is – Letang is 3″ shorter than Pacioretty and was leaning forward to place a shot on net. He knew the hit was coming and played with his head down.
If Martin St-Louis runs into Chara’s elbow and get’s hit on the head, does that mean it’s a suspend-able head shot? You may think so, but I can’t agree.
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all i know if it was the other way around 99% of people on this website would want the guy suspended and if he didn’t get suspended people would be saying shans(the sherriff) has something against montreal
don’t get me wrong, i love old time hockey, i believe the NHL should never ban fighting, i love hard hitting intense, blue collar hockey but that hit tonight was dirty–i like pac, he is my favorite hab player it was a dirty hit–should he be suspended–no–let the players control the ice–i always will believe that so i won’t be a hypocrite now
all i’m saying is we can’t go crying to the refs/league when a player takes a dirty shot at a hab player and than when the habs do it we say its a clean hit
Hey Pat – I appreciate the conversation and I love that you’re candid and open. I’m not saying we have to agree, because we clearly don’t. I can’t call that a dirty hit. That’s just me.
Read this for my reasons why : http://bit.ly/t2P3MU
Having said that, I guess I just don’t want to be lumped into those that cry foul in one instance, and don’t in another. I consider myself to be very unbiased. I’ll be the first to say something against the Habs if I feel it’s warranted (and have done so to the chagrin to many of my readers).
Thanks for being solid in your conversation with me, and not being one of the typical name-callers!
Do you have a Twitter account? I’d love to follow.
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emann–great point–you are consisitent with your position
How can you say it was not intentional? He raised his elbow, stuck out his leg and lunged toward him with his upper body. He spun around the other way due to his extended leg spinning him back and had lots of time to use a hip check or soften it. When the camera plays over and over with his eye glances and body language The sherif has no choice but to suspend this embellishing mommies boy.
Leftwinger
Wow. He saw him coming, did he. Intentionally put his head down for maximum impact.
You don`t need an elbow to lay a headshot.
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Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Halak sucks, you wish he was 1/4 the goalie Price is now, go away
Watch the video … Letang looks in Pacioretty’s direction, then puts his head down to concentrate on completing the play (shot on net). I don’t know where you got the “maximum impact” from. You should refrain from making statements for others that they have not made themselves. Looking back on what I wrote – there was no discussion of maximum impact.
For a headshot – you only need contact to the head, but if that contact was not intentional (ie: player raising his elbow/forearm towards the head), then it is questionable for suspension.
As I’ve said before, if St-Louis collides with Chara and his head connects with Chara’s elbow, does that warrant a suspension?
Hardly
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Watch the video?? YOU watch the video! lol
Perhaps you’re not following the current state of things hockey, but the league is supposedly cracking down on headshots, regardless of intent (which can be impossible to prove conclusively). They are grounds for suspensions. Your point of 3″ height diff really is lame. Can you demonstrate an effective hockey shot standing straight up? And once again, you can’t make *contact to the head using shoulders?
* See Thornton on David Perron.
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Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Perhaps you aren’t good at reading or comprehending. I didn’t say the 3″ height difference made the hit clean or dirty. I simply made the point that it’s a factor that needs taken into account.
I don’t, and never will believe that, every time a head is contacted, that the player doing the hitting is solely responsible.
Thanks for the chat and have a great night.
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I comprehend just fine. According to you, it’s still open season for headshots if heads are low enough. Gotta be ‘responsible’ for keeping your head up at all times/all costs. Gotcha. It will suck to be on the short side.
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Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
go watch Brett Hull retirement videos. you’re on the wrong site
emann–great point–just b/c we don’t agree doesn’t mean we don’t have our right to express our opinions–you are consistent with yours so i completely understand what you are saying
Thank You Sir – and I respect your point of view as well. Like I said – if you have a twitter account – please let me know. Would love to have future hockey talk with someone of your caliber.
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Hm, wonder what the commentariat`s take would be if it was a Hab on the receiving end of that hit on Letang. Guess we`ll never know..
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Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
But I’m guessing you have an opinion about that.
It was a clean headshot. Suspension worthy.
http://youtu.be/3h0eGCt2B3s
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Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
It was a hockey play.
‘Nuf said.
***Subbang Baby!!!***
Didn’t say I was interested in knowing what it was.
Keep trolling…dam I took the hook (bait).
BTW clean hit.
I’ll be honest, I’d be calling for a 25 game suspension, a public flogging, and the Canadian equivalent of SWAT to invade Pittsburgh. Happy E1?
Elliott #1
I sense a disturbance in the schwartz
your asking how wed feel if max pac got a nose bleed instead of a broken neck?
+1
Ya we’ll never know so enlighten us pz,
How you like Halak being a backup now? how bout you talk about that instead of bothering us with your hatred to everythign that is habs since your messiah Halak got traded away to keep a much better goalie.
Good game that ended on a shi**y note. 1st game this year that I didn’t follow the Live Blog and reading game comments from Boone and his followers. Unlike when the Live Blog began, NOT following it made the game more enjoyable to watch.
You didn’t miss anything. I did the same.
Maybe we need some D man who can actually clear the crease for price ..he gets no respect from our opponents…..
Why are we paying the 3 smurfs ..17 miilion dollars a year..yes 17 mil…when we get noting back … that’s a lot of dough partner !!
just sayin’
Emelin does that, but he’s a 3rd rate D man in JM’s eyes and would rather have Diaz suck up icetime and just suck at anything defensive.
Y`all should be pleased with another such loss. Another like that might be enough to bring about REAL change for the better – the ousting of JM. But with present management, and perhaps lack of viable options for replacement, it seems unlikely.
On another note, how anyone can respect Subban on any level is beyond me. He`s that obnoxious, pretentious sh!t disturber everyone hated in grade school.
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Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
You had me until you decided to dump on Subban but hey you are entilted to your opinion and HIO is a place where you can try and infect us with it.
I respect pk a hell of a lot more than i respect you
You must be his younger brother.
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Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
oh but i wish, have a rewarding hockey career than go on this after a loss because i have nothing better to do
All hail dark helmet.
sergio, we get it, italians dont like black people, its okay, its genetic, get over it, some furniture needs covering im sure
Careful,he might steal your hockey sticks and use them to plant his tomatoes.
Talk about discrimination.
I’m not Italian, and I don’t discriminate. I just don’t like his demeanor/personality, regardless of skin color or what team he plays for.
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Thus sayeth the Lord, “Destroyed I the Amorite before them, whose height was like the height of the cedars, and he was strong as the oaks.” Amos 2:9
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Halak is a Blue, how bout you go bother them we don’t need or want you here.
You lost me after even though… but you are entitled to your opinion…………. but wtf…………this is a no brainer clean hit.
We have one duo of big power forwards who show up on a consistent basis (Patches and Cole)
We have another duo of midget forwards who seem to show up once every 10 games (Cammy and Gio)
Whens PG gonna learn something and start filling this lineup with power forwards instead of overpaid midgets who bring nothing to the table???
Plug gomez in the minors and trade cammy away and use the $$$ on valuable players already!!!!
Man I miss the days of the big 3 on D. Now we get to experience the wee three on D
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The better team won. Horrible call at the end but for most of this game it was men versus boys. What’s going with Cammy. Go back and look at the second goal.. No effort… He seems 100% disinterested.. He was the worst Hab on the ice tonight! It’s a shame we’ve dropped so far in being a top quality team… Nothing will change until JM and Gauthier go!!!
So, ya, JM, hes great…
When a team has this long of a drought, plays so un inspired, no system and cant hold goal leads for the life of them, ya we usually see a coaching change dont we?
JM has no system, they players dont play for him, and he makes bad call after bad call. Im starting to agree with Ian, Plecks looks so gased all game long playing on the terrible PP’s and there PK’s that seem to be 90% in there own zone.
How do we expect Cammy and Gio to have any chance when there centre is skating on empty most of the game?
Weber -3
Cammy -2
Plecs -3
Gill -3
Gio -4!!
Rest of the team was 0 or a plus, hmmm
So for ONCE Weber got less icetime then Emelin!! Emelin finally got more time on the ice then another D holy crap I think JM did a mistake, because he surly wouldnt want one of his steady’s defenceman getting more time then one of the swiss cheese duo, but Diaz did get 2 mins more then Emelin
JM has to go
I wonder what Jim Scoenfeld would have had to say to the officials tonight if he was coach?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpcb5aTnPk
yes price had it covered and yes im pissed that the ref didnt blow the dam whistle. What makes me more mad and sick to my stomach is that this team seems to be incapable of winning with a 2 goal lead
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They lost me 2 quarts of rum, better make it up next year with a cup!
Price indeed stole a point for us.
But the ref stole a point from us/him too. That play should be blown dead right away.