Waiting for Jagr?

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Photo of Max Lapierre doing his Bobby Orr impression by Andy Clark/Reuters

Is this Mats Sundin Redux?
A summer-long production of Waiting for Jaromir?
I somehow doubt Pierre Gauthier will be as patient and ardent as Bob Gainey was in his pursuit of the big Swedish guy – who ended up in Vancouver and was pretty much washed-up.

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329 Comments

  1. Bash says:

    John B’s comment was a nice mixture of serious and silly…but it prompted an interesting point. If hits to the head intended to injure are “illegal” and cause for suspension, how can fighting be considered a five minute penalty without suspension?

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  2. 24 Cups says:

    The Atlanta to Winnipeg rumours just won’t go away. Even if it happens, it won’t be a slam dunk for the Jets over the long haul.

    http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/nhl/article/992423–cox-nhl-retreat-from-atlanta-far-from-strategic

    Forget about Detroit moving east, as it appears Nashville (or maybe Columbus) are the easiest fits.

    If this move transpires, what happens when Phoenix eventually folds? Moving to Quebec would lead to major re-alignment problems after the natural fit of Winnipeg disappears. Does that mean that Kansas City comes back into the picture? They have a new arena and a buyer with deep pockets.

    “I’m goin’ to Kansas City, Kansas City here I come, yeah, yeah”.

  3. sidhu says:

    Since we’re talking draft already, I thought I’d suggest this 6’7″ 240 lbs defenseman, who is said to have size, physicality, and agility.

    http://www.ushl.com/news/story.cfm?id=3925

  4. JohnBellyful says:

    This just in …

    MONTREAL – Clinics that specialize in tattoo removals say business is booming these days while skin artists complain they’ll have to close up shop if the NHL doesn’t stop its crackdown on unauthorized use of team logos and slogans.
    “We had 27 people – three of them grandmothers – come in today to have ‘Go Habs Go’ removed from their person,” said Dr. Johannes McMootle, of the Tattoo No More Laser Clinic.
    Next door Waldo ‘One Eye’ Peterson said traffic at Tattootarama Inc. has plummeted since the NHL began going after people who haven’t obtained authorization to wear, post, think or otherwise make use of team graphics and phrases.
    “I used to ink 30 to 40 Hab fans a day,” Peterson said. “Now all I’m doin’ are Jack Layton faces on the buttocks of NDP supporters.”
    The NHL refused to comment on its new get-tough policy. A spokesman for the NBA who plays pickup hockey with a spokesman for the NHL said the hockey league decided to play hardball to ensure its revenues from licensing are on par with what the other leagues receive.
    Tattoo artists are not the only ones to get under the skin of the NHL. Twelve-year-old Billy Buncake was forced to shut down his lemonade stand after two men in black suits and one in charcoal grey said they were from the NHL and ordered him to cease operation. His crime: the plastic glasses he was using with the Canadiens logo were meant for home use only.
    “They let me keep half of the $24 I collected,” said Billy who’s raising money so his three-year-old sister can undergo surgery for a rare bone disease.
    An anonymous source, who sells hot dogs near NHL headquarters, said the league is looking into the rampant misappropriation of players’ names in street hockey games throughout the city.

    • Bill J says:

      Hyperbole ? Or humour ?

      The NHL seems to be protecting the logo’s when a profit can be made using said “logo’s”

      So unless your cited grannies are being pimped on Ste. Catherine… They are not making a profit from their oddly placed & disfigured CH tattoo’s. And the NHL is leaving them alone.

      • HardHabits says:

        First they came for the web sites,
        and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a blogger.

        Then they came for the local businesses,
        and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t an owner of a restaurant.

        Then they came for the tattoos,
        and I didn’t speak out because I didn’t have any ink.

        Then they came for HH
        and all f*ck*n’ hell broke loose!!!

        • Komihater says:

          Therefore…..
          Don’t Be A Sucker

          Been quite some time since i saw that one

          “Those who would give up there liberty’s for so called security’s deserve neither and shall receive none” TJ

  5. habs365 says:

    Forget about Jagr—that’s just another way of killing the summer with Jagr Rumors like they did with sundin—you won’t see Jagr back in the NHL, maybe if some team offered him $6,000,000 for a 1 year deal—it’s all about big money and I don’t blame these guys too much Goon hockey in the NHL today and nothing done about it, there was Goon hockey 20 years ago but not like today—these guys do things to end your career—when you skate onto the ice you don’t know if this game is gonna be your last one or not—ask Crosby, Savard, Pacioretty…..

  6. Steven says:

    I know this is getting a bit old, but what happened to this Gomez?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQvIkxaTD54

  7. habs365 says:

    according to Rumors, Jagr requested $2,000,000 for a 1 year contract with the Habs and PG turned him down. if this is true facts he’s playing the same game as sundin and he’ll get $5,000,000 from a KHL team..you’ll hear about the signing soon with the KHL….

    • Malreg says:

      Funny, because when Renaud Lavoie contacted Jagr’s agent with that rumor, he said it was the first he had heard of it.

      But I agree with you, he’s playing up his NHL options to get a bigger contract from the KHL.

  8. kempie says:

    Are you kidding me? Probably already posted here but FFS Gary, come on man.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/05/16/restaurant-habs-nhl-fine.html

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Every institution evolves the same way (American movies, the Automobile Industry etc …:

      1. A bunch of dreamers start something – messy but exciting.

      2. The more practical early followers of the dreamers take over – golden age.

      3. Lawyers and accountants take over – creative decline.

      Institutions die when the lawyers take over. The NHL is run by lawyers.

  9. HabFanSince72 says:

    A Czech friend just told me that Czech Radio is reporting that St.Petersburg offered Jagr a little over 5M for next season.

    • Steven says:

      If he’s actually serious about wanting to return to the NHL, I doubt this changes much.

      If not, well, let’s scratch him from our plans.

  10. scrowe21 says:

    What is the latest on Pacioretty? Is he suffering from any concussion symptoms? Is he still expected to make a full recovery? I haven’t heard anything.

  11. SeriousFan09 says:

    ISS released their May rankings, of interest:

    C Mark Scheifele falls perfectly to MTL, ranked 17th overall. The 6’2″ top player on the Barrie Colts would fit nicely into the desires for a new big Centre in the system.

    LW JT Miller, 6’01″ is a product of the US NTDP and led the US in scoring at the Under-18 Tournament, scoring 4G, 9A in 6 games as the US won their 3rd consecutive Gold Medal at the event.

    C Mark McNeill 6’02″ is ranked 20th and has a PF potential. Although he’s far more favoured to go in the early teens in NA scouting.

    Hockey’s Future has also released their organizational Rankings once more, Montreal was ranked 20th due to the graduation of PK Subban and Lars Eller. Danny Kristo, Louis Leblanc, Jarred Tinordi, Aaron Palushaj and Alex Avtsin are the Top 5 prospects ranked by them (They include Weber at 4th and DD at 6th on their charts but they’re pretty much grads anyway). HF notes the Habs lack decent goaltending prospects and could use a boost in offensive talent for the Top-6.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

    • Mike D says:

      How much time would Scheifele, Miller, or McNeill need to make the big club do you figure? Any chance any of these guys could crack the line-up in 2 years?

      - Honestly yours

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Without a giant leap in their development? No. Scheifele has only played one year in the OHL so he’ll have to play two more years just to be 20 years old and be eligible for the AHL (as these days, the Habs seem more interested in a more paced development of prospects). McNeill the same, Miller is committed to UND so figure he plays two years there at the least than goes to the AHL.

        - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • Mike D says:

          Too bad. I was hoping we could get a big body in the line-up sooner than later without having to overpay a FA or trade a good asset.

          Thanks for the info though.

          - Honestly yours

          • issie74 says:

            I was impressed in the Juniors at Christmas with Joonas Nattinen(Finland)6’3 183 C He is playing in his sophomore year and scouting reports are good.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            I like Nattinen, but his offensive ceiling for NHL play looks very limited, I think he’s looking to be a future faceoff specialist and defensive forward for MTL at most.

            - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

    • JohnBellyful says:

      If we’re in the middle of the pack now with prospects that are below middle of the pack, what will it take to propel this team into the top five and become a true Stanley Cup contender? Was it injuries alone that kept the Canadiens from advancing further than it did last year, or are there still holes to be plugged, which seems obvious, and who will plug them?

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        If Yemelin is on board, Habs address a hole in the prospect chart for a punishing defencemen, which fits a need. After that, the return of Markov and Gorges allows the Canadiens to field more Ds capable of 20+ minutes a game without it being suicidal for them to do so.

        For offence, no easy answers. Kristo, Leblanc, Avtsin, Palushaj need to become factors for the future. Kristo’s going to take another year at UND, than likely play the 12-13 season in the AHL, making the Habs by 2013-14. Leblanc will take at least this year in the A, with a potential 12-13 debut along with Palushaj, Avtsin I suspect will play at least two more years in the AHL, seems his talent is more raw than expected. If Pacioretty is back, Habs can field a Top-6 group effectively, but would still be short of replacement bodies if injuries strike unless a trade is struck or prospects develop quicker than expected.

        - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • JohnBellyful says:

          Thanks for the insight. It’s the offence that’s cause for concern with no sign of substantial improvement in the immediate future. They say you can teach defence to any player but offence is another matter, which makes natural goal-scorers such a precious commodity. Still, teams employ staff that specialize in defensive play, face-offs, penalty killing and goaltending, why haven’t they developed gurus for improving players’ offensive abilities, in terms of positioning, receiving and taking passes, deflecting shots, rapid release. Those were all areas in need of attention by the Canadiens this year. Surely those skills can improve with special drills and constant practice under the direction of someone gifted in designing offensive schemes.

        • issie74 says:

          J,M was impressed with Palushaj when he came up for a few games,in the winter.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        “If we’re in the middle of the pack now with prospects that are below middle of the pack, …”

        No parade in the near future.

        • TomNickle says:

          According to the Hockey Gospel Hockeysfuture.com, who have yet to realize that Nick Leddy is in the Chicago Blackhawks lineup.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            I don’t think we need hockeysfuture to realize our young NHLers (Price, Soobie, MaxPac, DD, Eller, White) are very good, but the cupboard on the farm is pretty bare. Other than Leblanc,who is at least a year away, there is no one projected to be a top player in the NHL. (And Leblanc is a maybe).

          • TomNickle says:

            Players who routinely score 40 goals in a physical junior league usually work out well, Brenden Gallagher.

            Jared Tinordi doesn’t have to be lighting up the scoreboard to be an elite defenseman. Scott Stevens made a pretty nice career out of mauling people with punishing hits and responsible defensive zone play.

            I don’t know if you’ve ever seen Danny Kristo play. But he would be the fastest Hab if he joined the team tomorrow. And by all accounts I’ve heard and read, and from watching him myself, he’s made a great effort to simplify his game and become a better overall player, more responsible both with the puck and without. Players with that kind of speed can become special. And keep in mind that I’m referring to speed with the puck. He’s lightning fast and there are few NHLers who have his speed with control of the puck. I’ll also point out that Greg Pateryn is almost unanimously considered a top 5 defenseman in NCAA D1 hockey. Add a blooming Joonas Nattinen who was fantastic at the WJHC and this cupboard is far from bare in my opinion. There’s also Alain Berger, Joe Stejskal, Alex Avtsin, Brendon Nash and Kyle Klubertanz who have all been highly productive in their roles or have tremendous skill sets with high ceilings in terms of reaching their potential.

          • TomNickle says:

            Oh, and HabsFan72. Did you anticipate Andrei Markov, Jaroslav Halak, Tomas Plekanec, Yannick Weber, Ryan White, Michael Ryder or Mark Streit having impacts on the Canadiens roster?

            I’m curious because those players were selected in the following rounds, 6, 9, 3, 3, 3, 8 and 9. Not exactly blue chippers.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Also, Future Considerations released their Top 30, Scheifele was ranked 13th there *Shakes fist*, but RW Nicklas Jensen, another favourite of mine was ranked 21st. Finn RW Joel Armia was also within reach, although their are critiques of his skating and potential ceiling.

      - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

      • TomNickle says:

        Jensen is as good as done. This team has drafted and traded based on continuity and chemistry at each level of the development system.

        Mac Bennett and Greg Pateryn play on the same Defensive pairing.
        Aaron Palushaj and Max Pacioretty played on the same line at Michigan.
        Danny Kristo and Louis Leblanc played together in Omaha. And coincidentally, Phillip Lefebvre plays with Leblanc for the Montreal Juniors.
        Dustin Walsh and Joe Stejskal played together at Dartmouth.

        In other words, I would bet my right arm that the Habs select an Oshawa General at some point in the top 50 picks to pair with Alain Berger.

        • SeriousFan09 says:

          Yes but Berger looks to be more like a 4th-liner, maybe a 3rd-liner on his best day, Jensen is supposed to project for Top-6. Leblanc, Kristo are of similar type, Bennett/Pateryn match puck-mover with stay-at-home, Palushaj-Pacioretty are Offensive forwards.

          - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
          SF09 on Twitter

          • TomNickle says:

            Berger is only 21 and scored just under 30 goals in his third junior year. He could very well be a third liner, but I wouldn’t pigeon hole him into a depth player just yet. The line he scored those 29 goals on this season isn’t exactly Oshawa’s most skilled.

        • issie74 says:

          I think that is a very good bet.

      • issie74 says:

        Brad May on sportsnet follows the Bulldogs and talks about the talent Habs have in Hamilton Not ist overall picks but a nice mix.

    • TomNickle says:

      Yes and the Lightning who have Brett Connolly and……………Brett Connolly made the list at #17

    • 24 Cups says:

      Robert – This info was posted earlier in the day. I’m not sure if any of these three guys will be around for us. They all seem to be on the rise. Same goes for Armia. On the other hand, we only need to get lucky once. That’s how we got Leblanc last year with Josefson and Kreider in reserve.

      It will be interesting to see who Boston selects (9th?) with Toronto’s pick.

      “could use a boost in offensive talent for the Top-6.” LMAO!

  12. naweed235 says:

    Hey btw… I saw on RDS that Yemelin went down very badly and his knee seemed to be injured in Russia’s last game… Sorta like markov’s incident… does anyone have more info on this?

  13. 24 Cups says:

    Rumours abound (don’t you just love them), that Atlanta is moving to Winnipeg.

    If so, that probably means either Nashville or Columbus is moving east. Should do wonders to solidify those two franchises:-)

    • Steven says:

      Weren’t they saying a while ago that Detroit would be the one going East?

    • TomNickle says:

      They say Detroit was promised to be moved back East in the event of another relocation. Hard to argue since they were a member of the Wales Conference for so long. Makes for interesting speculation toward division realignment in the Conference though. Unless the plan would be to just move the Wings into the Southeast.

      • Mike D says:

        If Detroit came back east, it might make more sense if they moved to the Northeast, Boston moved to the Atlantic division, and Pittsburgh moved to the Southeast. I’m no geography expert, but I believe this would be correct.

        - Honestly yours

        • Steven says:

          If anything, I see Detroit going to the Central Division.

          • Mike D says:

            That’s the Western conference though. They’re already in the Central division.

            - Honestly yours

          • Steven says:

            Aw I meant the Atlantic. I feel stupid now :p

          • Mike D says:

            @ Steven: No worries bud.

            I think Detroit would have to come to the Northeast though. The closest two teams to them are Toronto and Buffalo. It would be hard to have them playing the two NY teams, Jersey, and Philly 6 times a year. It would make for an unfair travel schedule for all those teams.

            - Honestly yours

          • Steven says:

            @Mike: Yeah, that does make sense.

            I’d really welcome that, because playing Detroit 6 times a year would be some real entertainment, but it makes you wonder if the NHL would be against moving Boston because of the rivalry, and the subsequent cash loss of us not meeting those extra 2 times.

            From a money standpoint, it seems that if Detroit moves into the Northeast, Buffalo goes out, but that makes no sense geographically.

            I guess they’ll figure it out, though :p

    • Ayan_SB says:

      Not too sure if you’re being sarcastic, but the Nashville Predators seem to have become very popular. Now there’s an example of a Southern U.S. hockey market that’s a success.

      As for Columbus? Well when you don’t make the playoffs consistently (like Atlanta, Florida and *unlike* Nashville), it’s obviously not going to be easy to grow your fanbase.

      As for Detroit moving conferences, I don’t see that happening. They sell out away arenas in the West like Pittsburgh and Washington does in the East. The Western conference need the Red Wings (Datsyuk, Zetterberg and co.), especially considering that the East have Crosby, Ovechkin and now Stamkos.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      It’s bullshit. The NHL is once again spreading false rumours about a move to Winnipeg just as they did for the Yotes.

      1. Leak the rumour.

      2. Bettman denies it.

      3. Daly says well maybe there’s something to it.

      The goal is to either prompt an Atlanta buyer to come forward or extort money from Atlanta city council.

      F***ing lawyers.

  14. ds says:

    I don’t get the negativity around here. If it was Lemieux or Gretzky in his final year at a low price (2 mil or less) who wouldn’t want that? Similarly Jagr is at that level, a franchise player who is old now. The last true superstar like that MTL had was Patrick Roy. Even if Jagr doesn’t score 80 pts, just playing with him will make the younger players better. Furthermore Jagr & Pleks have chemistry, and nobody better than him is going to come over for 2 mill anyway. (Not that there are many UFAs better).

    Someone mentioned Frolov & Zherdev, they both suck, if they were so useful they wouldn’t have been cast away team after team. We’re better off keeping Pouillot over those two. To compare Jagr to two career scrubs is a joke.

    The only two guys who are UFAs that are worth considering are Ville Leino & Jussi Jokinen, both are solid two ways, 20 goals/50 pts/yr loaded with playoff experience.

    • The Cat says:

      Ville Leino, now youre talking.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Mike D says:

      Whoa, easy ds. I was the one who mentioned Frolov and Zherdev, but I never mentioned anything about them being the career players Jagr was. I just pointed out that both were FA’s that would also be around the rumoured 2mil per and are younger. Personally I’m not excited by Frolov or Zherdev, and I’m only very mildly intrigued by Jagr.

      - Honestly yours

    • issie74 says:

      Frolov signed for 3 years with KHL.

  15. JohnBellyful says:

    Do we need to wait for the results of an autopsy on Derek Boogaard’s brain to conclude fighting is barbaric and should be, at minimum, discouraged as much as possible?
    It will never be removed from the game entirely — emotions run high in a fast-paced, body-contact sport – but its employment to achieve a strategic advantage has to end.
    Why not tack on additional punishment for blows to the head during a fight? Five minutes for fighting and an additional five minutes for punching an opponent in the head.
    If the players want to fight, let ‘em. Let ‘em whale away at each other’s chest, stomach, any part of the torso. The risk of injury would be far less than from haymakers to the skull. Most bouts would likely end in exhaustion on the part of both combatants.
    An argument could even be made to allow hitting below the belt. Fisticuffs is all about asserting one’s machismo. Trying to neuter a foe while defending one’s own manhood would be the ultimate test of a player’s masculinity.
    But if the NHL doesn’t mind seeing players get hurt, really hurt, then by all means, keep fighting the way it is. Some day the league will land that REALLY big TV contract.

    • The Cat says:

      The refs should ignore them and proceed to drop the puck. Itd solve most of the bs.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Hey, I like that idea. Play continues while two pugilists pugil. They’d be an unnatural hazard that players would avoid while carrying on with the game. It would double the spectacle for the fans. And if the two fighters worked their way toward the benches, they could tag-team to keep the punch-up alive. Cat, you’re onto something.

    • Bugs says:

      Can we at least wait and SEE if it ain’t a pharmaceutically induced heart-attack afore blaming everything on blows to the head?
      Why does it always have to be violence’s fault?

      Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I hear ya Bugs, we need to wait and see first.

        Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

      • JohnBellyful says:

        You’re right. What was I thinking? If it turns out it was a pharmaceutically induced heart attack I’ll slam the NHL for its lax drug policy. And wait for some other evidence to come along that points to a problem with concussions in the NHL.
        Victimizing violence — I’ll never live it down.

      • Steven says:

        This is old news, but RDS had reported he had contacted some Drug Abuse help organization before he died. It’s very possible he just OD’d

        • JohnBellyful says:

          That very well could be the cause of his unexpected death. But the fact his family donated his brain for research indicates they harbour suspicions that what kept him in the NHL was a factor in his demise. In any event, fighting increases the risk of suffering a concussion and the risk of injury increases the more one fights. Why the NHL doesn’t do more to remove the rationale for having one-dimensional enforcers in the line-up remains a mystery.

          • Frank Labarbotte says:

            I don’t know if you follow football, but some of the stuff they’re finding out about concussions and the effect they have on former players is really scary stuff. As a guy who played contact sports year-round for many years (football-hockey-rugby), I’ve suffered my fair share of blows to the head, and I’ve got to say it concerns me to read reports about how brains get affected by trauma. With that said, the studies are in very early stages and there are constantly calls about receiving more brains of athletes of all stages (current/former amateur/pros) for further testing and examination. It’s entirely possible that the family would have donated Boogard’s brain anyway, but then again it’s possible that post-concussion symptoms such as depression could have been the indirect cause of death.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        We know for a fact he was out with a concussion.

        Concussion itself doesn’t kill you at 28 (by which I mean post-concussion syndrome … obviously a serious head injury can kill you).

        It might make an already vulnerable person turn to drugs or alcohol however.

        The point is that if his brain shows signs of repeated trauma there will be serious calls to ban all hits to the head whether during fights or during play.

        The calls will be ignored of course and the little mafia lawyer who runs the league will argue whatever ailed Boogaard had nothing to do with the thug sweatshop known as the NHL.

    • pat s says:

      are you kidding me—worry about cheap shots and not the fighting–the day they ban fighting is the day i stop watching the nhl

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Okay, but what about allowing punches to the groin? Short players like Gionta would have a fighting chance against behemoths like Chara. And you could hardly call them cheap shots. Certainly no more reprehensible than trying to knock a person out and possibly end a player’s career.

        Also, note I didn’t say ban fights, I said they should be discouraged, at minimum.

  16. Bugs says:

    Well, I’m still usin the moniker Yammy Yaeger whether he comes here or not.
    Grapes’ finest hour, man. Not my fault.

    Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

  17. Bill says:

    The Jagr thing will be nothing like Sundin because it is BOGUS. Jagr has no intention of signing anywhere in the NHL. He’ll get more dollars – tax-free – in the KHL, and he threw out the possibility of returning to North America as a bargaining ploy. It’s as plain as the nose on Marchand’s face.

    Therefore this could possibly be the dumbest topic of discussion in HIO history. Except for the old, old debate on whether or not Carey Price should change the colour of his pads.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • punkster says:

      I’m thinkin’ violet. That’d set him apart from the rest. Yep, violet pads.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • jimmy shaker says:

        Good with the whites when he came in the league as a rookie. Sucked ever since the montreal allstar game, where he did switch over to the reds prior to that game. Sucked at the allstar game and basically the whole time he used the reds, came back to the whites and didn’t fair much better, as he was pretty much snake bit. But since he’s been back to the allwhites this year, he’s done the job. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!

        Shaker

    • _Habsoloutly_ says:

      I think there’s a chance he’ll sign in Pittsburgh if they’ll have him. A one year deal for 2 million. He’ll play his ass off and get lots of points playing with Sid the Kid, and Malkin. When the year is up he’ll use his productive season to cash in bigtime either in the NHL or in the KHL. No way he signs in Montreal. Not with the amount of tax he’ll pay here, and he knows all about what it’s like to have to play with Gomez from his New York days.

      • Bill says:

        This is probably his last playing year. He’s going home to Kladno to manage his dad’s team in 2012 apparently.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

      • LA Loyalist says:

        My nickel says Sid is done. It’s really freaking sad, but I suspect that’s how it’s going to play out.

        • Steven says:

          I called that(although not on the record) about a month or 2 after the injury. We’re on the same page, then :P

          It really is a shame, though. I didn’t like Crosby at all, until this season, and just as I started enjoying watching him he gets injured and is probably done. I mean, when the guy finally got back on the ice, he looked fine, then out of nowhere, he’s back to rest.

    • JD_ says:

      “Therefore this could possibly be the dumbest topic of discussion in HIO history.”

      Not even close, Bill.

  18. Mike D says:

    With the speculation of Jagr possibly coming to Mtl. and the rumours of the deal being for 1 year at around 2mil, thought I’d post some comparables….just for funsies.

    Alexander Frolov
    Nikolay Zherdev

    A coupe of guys who definitely have skill but have vastly underperformed in recent seasons. Both are UFA and will be looking at no more than 2mil salaries (likely on 1 year contracts) if they stay in the NHL. Both players are 6’2″ and approx, 205 lbs. Neither are gritty players, but at least have size and might be looking to resurrect their NHL careers before it’s too late. AF is 28 and NZ is 25.

    Essentially, both considerably younger than Jagr and bring the same “potential” that Jagr might for around the same (rumoured) price. Other than age, the difference is that these guys played in the NHL this past year, though neither played the full season.

    If we have to get a bridge-gap player for a year, would you guys prefer Jagr, Frolov, or Zherdev?

    - Honestly yours

  19. habs365 says:

    Someone mentioned a long summer ahead—it’s gonna be a longer winter if they don’t improve on the scoring……

    PG there’s 3 or 4 teams slowly closing in on the Habs “Be aware”
    no improvements will mean a rough ride 2011-2012.

  20. el heffe says:

    Does Gatorade make prune juice?

    nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

  21. rogieshan says:

    Waiting for Jagr? Two words: Sergei Samsonov.

  22. The Cat says:

    Lets enjoy this 80s classic tune by Morrisey.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JenlsnA9-mE

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  23. HardHabits says:

    This just in. Toronto Maple Leafs sue Kellogg’s for promoting waffles with maple syrup.

  24. HabsFansince49 says:

    I will never forgive the Montreal organization for not getting Guy Boucher. Forget the excuses and the rationalizations. It should have happened. We’ve been messing around since ’93. Isn’t time to c lean house?

    I don’t pretend to be an expert; just a die-hard Habs fan passing my opinion

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Ha! Ha! Wait till Boucher bounces Bruins and gets to the final – and July 2nd Kirk Muller signs in New Jersey or Dallas. And the long summer of our discontent will be official…. I am encouraged by the idea of Yemelin and Ravioli Diaz, but that is offset by a known commodity, Wiz, probably walking.

      Get lots of cold beer. It’s going to be a long summer.

  25. Mattyleg says:

    I think someone should take both the NHL and the Montreal Canadiens to court.
    They did NOT invent “Go Habs Go,” so they should have absolutely no rights over it!
    How can they possibly copyright something that they didn’t invent?! Isn’t that theft of intellectual property?!
    I demand to have my cut of any money that comes from legal action, as being one of the ‘true’ inventors of that phrase!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Exit716 says:

      Gene Simmons didn’t invent the word KISS but I’m sure he’s got the trademark on it.

      • Danno says:

        KISS is an acronym that Simmons invented which stands for Knights In Satan’s Service or something like that…

        ________________________________________

        “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  26. Psycho29 says:

    Hmmm…Anyone know if Brad Marchand is suffering from Concussion Syndrome? Here is his take on the Lucic incident the other night:

    “Hedman was acting like he wanted to go back at Looch. But I don’t think that would’ve been advised,” said the pesky winger during a Bruins day off at the TD Garden.
    “But Hedman had it coming.”

    • DearyLeary says:

      Should have Dr. Recchi examine his head.

    • TommyB says:

      I don’t think there is anyone on the Bruins that I would like to see get a more thorough beatdown than Marchand. Not even Lucic. Not even Chara. I can’t stand the guy. He gets a free pass from Cherry and the likes of him, while a guy like Subban gets roasted for disrespect. Double standard much?

      I really hope the Lightning knock off the Bruins, and the quicker the better. Put an end to their crap once and for all. Claude Julien is another near the top of my “can’t stand list”. His sour and sulky face makes me want to hurl bottles at my TV screen. Chances are, I won’t have to see his face any more once the Bruins are eliminated. I don’t see the Bruins brass keeping him on. Apparently Neely does not like the defensive system Julien uses. If the Bruins go on to win the Cup, it could by him another half-year. But I think he is toast at the first excuse he gives Neely. Julien and his late-game-down-a-few-goals goon show is getting tiring. And it is not working in their favour. Tampa will expose the slow D corps and capitalize on it. One thing Tampa seems to do well, is fine tune their game the more often they play the same team. Three games into this series we might see the rink slanted drastically in favour of the Lightning. Go Bolts!

    • issie74 says:

      If he is,then he has been suffering since his junior days.

      Can you imagine any Hab player saying something like that.

  27. CHsam says:

    Jagr, why would he want to play The System? Go play with Tampa instead- way more scoring opportunities

    • Mark C says:

      Is Tampa’s system really that much better? They only scored 23 more non-empty net goals than Montreal, and averaged 0.1 shots per game more. Tampa’s top 2 goal scorers (Stamkos and St. Louis) had 25 more goals than Montreal’s top 2 (Gio and Plex). In theory, outside of the wild discrepancy in scoring leaders, both systems produced roughly the exact same.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Yeah, but what you’re failing to see, with all your statistics, is that the Lightning are the Best Team In The World, and Guy Boucher is The Best Coach In The World, and that squirrel I just saw is The Best Squirrel In The World.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Lafrich says:

      Oh shut up already about Guy Boucher and his system. Think perhaps it helps to have two 1st overall draft picks and a 2nd overall in the lineup?? Oh, and St. Louis to boot?

      • HardHabits says:

        Because all those high draft picks come from finishing 15th over-all for eternity.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Yes but they had all that for the last 4 years when they sucked.

        Boucher is the real thing. We knew it when he was in Drummondville and we knew it when he was in Hamilton.

        • HardHabits says:

          Yzerman’s the real thing too.

        • Mark C says:

          Stamkos and Hedman have been playing for Tampa for 4 years? Also, Tampa made the playoffs 4 years ago, it’s hard to suck and be a playoff team at the same time.

          If he is so much the “real deal” how come last year was his first year in the AHL, and this year only two teams offered him an NHL gig?

          He seems like a very good coach, who knows how great of a career he’ll have. However, the credit and praise he’s getting is just so over the top. I mean, he took over the team from a degenerate gambler, who had 5 games of NHL head coaching experience prior. The head coach before Tocchet? Barry Melrose. We saw in New Jersey what happens when a real NHL head coach takes over from a bad one.

  28. Danno says:

    First they went after Habs Inside Out and now they’re going after the Shawarma Guy…

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/05/16/restaurant-habs-nhl-fine.html

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  29. Old Bald Bird says:

    Engels on Jagr, Wiz etc.

    – formerly notbigbird –

  30. HabinBurlington says:

    So Bergeron practised today with Bruins. Really hope he is not being rushed back, but I fear he is.

    Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

    • Mark C says:

      Yup, don’t like the way this thing is headed. The only humor to come out of this will be the B’s fans reaction to Seguin sitting.

    • shiram says:

      I had the same tought, and with the pressure on the player and coaching staff to perform, you can imagine that he might be rushed. Let’s hope he is not, and that Tampa keeps on winning.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        How the heck can it be any more obvious this team ownership/mgmt couldn’t give a flying FFFF about the longterm health of their players. Are they still using the same doctor that pitchforked Bobby Orrs knees 40 years ago! With Savard’s career practically over after rushing him back last year…..

        It is the one thing about the Habs losing first round that i liked. We didn’t have a chance to screw up Max-Pac and play him too soon.

        Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

    • Timo says:

      Dr. Recchi must have given him the green light.

      • DearyLeary says:

        Nurse Downie is about as forgiving as nurse Ratched. Feel bad for Patrice if they rush him back.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Thanks Timo, how could I forget they have a Player/Coach/Doctor/Ancient Historian on their roster.

        Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

      • issie74 says:

        How does it happen that players get stupid when they sign in Boston.I have seen Nathan Horton play since junior and become a bully when he gets to Boston,and I just can’t figure Recchi.

  31. J.J. of Turku says:

    Hahaa! What a classy way to begin celebrations here in Finland. Over 100 000 people were singing team Sweden’s song in swedish. :D

    http://media.turku.fi/kamera1.html

  32. twocents says:

    According to TSN Glencros gets 2.55 for 4 years to stay in Calgary. That should help us by keeping A. Kost’s demands reasonable.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      And hurt us by not allowing us to sign Curtis Glencross at 2.55 for 4 years. That’s a smart move by the flames.

      • twocents says:

        It’s become clear that under the current CBA, a player’s existing team has a real advantage with UFA’s.

        Basically free agency as we’ve known it for the past 15 years is dead.

        We’ll see what happens in the next CBA.

      • Mike D says:

        Not necessarily. He had a career season (in goals at least) going into a UFA summer – he ain’t the first the pull that stunt – and still only put up 43 points. Career-wise he’s been up and down so who how he’ll perform over the 4 years of his contract. 2.55mil certainly isn’t bad, but it’s not a steal like Burrows in Van who gets only 2mil.

        - Honestly yours

        • Sean Bonjovi says:

          I think I’m agreeing with you when I say that, at 2.55/year Glencross Probably maxed-out his value. I also don’t expect him to score 43 points every year, but this guy plays hard, and he’s got decent size, and with 3rd line minutes I think he’s a lock for 30 points , and I’d maybe pay up to 2.55/year for that kind of player. Not the end of the world, but one less option for PG on July 1st.

    • Mike D says:

      AK is an RFA this summer. If we re-sign him it has to be for minimum 3.25mil as that was his salary last year. At least that’s my understanding of re-signing RFA’s under the current CBA….could be wrong though.

      It might help us after next season when AK’s a UFA though.

      - Honestly yours

  33. HabinBurlington says:

    Pittsburgh has precious little caproom available this year. I doubt they can offer Jagr anything over 2mill per season at best. If the Rangers indeed get Brad Richards they still need to fill a number of positions. If indeed this Jagr rumour du jour has legs, PG may win by attrition and Jagr on the cheap.

    Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

  34. jljudges54 says:

    How are you assured that what happened with Sedin won’t happen with Jagr. (Sedin basically not performing to the expectations of the Vancouver Cauncks front office)

    CH 1909

    • naweed235 says:

      sundin

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Sundin was overrated his entire career. See Thomas Kaberle in Boston for a reference of such. Aside from his early years in Quebec Sundin was never the franchise player Toronto fans made him out to be. Thank goodness we didn’t waste a contract as well on him.

      Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

  35. habs365 says:

    See what you can get for the following forwards:
    Gomez-good luck on that one, Darche, Halpern, Moen

    Keep the following Defense:
    Wisniewski, Gorges, Gill, Weber, Subban, Markov, Diaz

    Good young team, keep building….

    • naweed235 says:

      why in hell would you want to get rid of Darche? he is exactly the type of 3rd and 4th liner that we need… the man is all heart and hustle and would do anything for the Habs … Grew up as a Habs fan… what more can you ask from a guy being paid under $1 M ? P.S he had 12 G in 59 games…
      try again

      • Mike D says:

        Couldn’t have said it better myself!

        - Honestly yours

        • pat s says:

          you got that right–darche is one of the few players i like on montreal–he is not that big but he plays harder than the majority of players that are bigger than him

          he is a blue collar player

          • Mike D says:

            Darche is all heart for sure, and at league minimum salary he also provides a lot of value. In a cap world, guys like him are mandatory on your roster.

            At 6’1″ and 215lbs. there’s not a lot of guys bigger than him on our roster, lol.

            - Honestly yours

          • pat s says:

            Mike D–I’ll be honest, I didn’t realize he was that big–on this one, I’m glad I had his size wrong.

            Darche needs to stay

      • LA Loyalist says:

        Give us 6 cones of Darche and we are good.

      • habs365 says:

        naweed235: everything you’re saying about Darche is great and he’s a hard working Hockey player but on the other hand what your’re saying if you could make a deal to improve the team you wouldn’t let Darche go. you didn’t read my post correctly, I didn’t say get rid of these guys on the list I made, I said see what you can get for them, meaning to improve the team and stick with our younger players otherwise don’t bring in new faces bring in forwards that’s better than on this list or don’t do anything….. Read before you write.

        If I could replace Darche or any other player on this team with a better player their gone, name of the game is to improve the team, that’s how you win cups, that’s why the Montreal Canadiens are the proud owners of 24.

  36. Mark C says:

    Arpon Basu on twitter:
    Zug coach Doug Shedden told @TonyMarinaro that #Habs Euro scout Christer Rockstrom saw a ton of his team’s games this season, re: R. Diaz

    One had to suspect that Rockstrom had some positive influence on the signing of Diaz. I was already a fan of this move, hard not to be as the odds are high Diaz can be at least a 7-8 D. Feel even better about it as Rockstrom is the new Euro scout and he has a great track record.

  37. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Sorry to burst everyone’s bubble, but I seriously doubt Jagr will sign with Montreal. He’ll go to Pittsburgh if he goes anywhere. He’ll sign a one year contract and play his ass off getting lots of points with Crosby and Malkin, then when the year is up he’ll have set himself up for a big payday from some misguided NHL GM like Sather, or a KHL team.

  38. sims says:

    Where has this $2M per year figure come from for Jagr?? This seems a little low to me…

  39. The Cat says:

    Moore and Lapierre absolutely delivering again this year.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  40. HabsFan2 says:

    For those bitching about who should or should not be signed for next year.

    It doesn’t matter who we sign…

    http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/01/03/judgement-day-will-may-21-2011-be-the-end-of-the-world/

    This is what I get every time I try and link it…

    / rel=”nofollow
    ———————————————-
    I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

  41. HabFanSince72 says:

    Cap wise the advantage of Jagr is he would take a one year contract.

    Still I’d rather take that $2M and put it towards an offer to the Wiz.

    • NoTinFoilCups says:

      Yeah we could use Wiz for sure. Without him and Yemelin (hope the rumour is true) we’re looking pretty soft on D. I’m hoping PG is cooking up a trade that will see our D toughened up. Bieksa would be nice. We have a surplus of guys who can move the puck but don’t exactly strike any fear into opposing forwards. With Bieksa we get both.

      If we had one of Bieksa, Yemelin and Subban in each pairing that would be sweet. Sit back and watch Price’s numbers come even lower.

  42. HardHabits says:

    The Jagr eklunding has now reached an hio2, kind of like the e1 to e5 system. An hio2 is a trade/UFA signing rumour that although is mere speculation, has already had 2 articles written about it.

    The intent and purposes of these articles is to produce as many hits as possible as posters determine how much his cap hit will be, how his salary will fit into the scheme of things, most notably burying Gomez’ in the minors, what Jagr’s projected points production will be and of course the route for next summer’s Stanley Cup parade.

    Get ready for the line combos.

    • Mike D says:

      HH, what the hell are you talking about? The “Jagr eklunding”? That doesn’t even make sense.

      Eklund pulls stuff out of thin air that has zero merit and assigns it some value on a bogus “likelihood” scale.

      Not one person that I’ve seen on HIO has said that the Jagr deal was likely to happen/not happen. People have merely discussed their preferences regarding the possibility and how it may or may not work out for the team, or fit/not fit into the team’s plans. And btw, all of this was born out of a QUOTE from Jagr himself as told to a real journalist on a legitimate newspaper publication.

      HH, I read all of your posts and have for along time. While I’m sure my opinion means nothing to you (rightfully so), I gotta say that what you have to offer HIO as part of the commentariat has become quite tiresome over recent weeks/months.

      - Honestly yours

      • HardHabits says:

        I am not going to wrap my summer discourse in sarcasm tags for the benefit of those who need a laugh track to know when to laugh, or dramatic music to know that this is serious.

        You obviously know exactly what I am talking about.

        Have a grate day, er, I mean great.

        • Mike D says:

          Of course I knew what you meant. I was merely pointing out that it was both incorrect and offensive to all the posters who commented on the Jagr thing considering there is some validity to the story.

          It’s ironic to me that you would insult mine and others intelligence for the numerous articles and posts about Jagr, yet almost all of your posts are a constant repetition of, “tank to get a better draft pick”, and “bury Gomez in the minors”.

          You make the assumption that others aren’t aware that this site’s mandate is to generate hits. Of course it is. If it didn’t generate hits it wouldn’t be a site for very long. Then where would you go to post your chorus of the same rants over and over again (thereby adding to the hits and contributing to the same thing you tried to discredit – ironic again)?

          - Honestly yours

          • LA Loyalist says:

            Guys, it’s going to be a long, long summer and we have to save our strength for profound bitterness over Guy Boucher destroying the Bruins :) and getting Bolts to the final in a one year re-build. While we are in year ___ (insert your favorite number here) of our rebuild.

          • Mark C says:

            LA, how do you possible consider Tampa to be a one-year re-build? If you honestly consider that organization to be in year one, than Montreal is only in year two.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      I love the “hio” rating system.

  43. Over at Habs EOTP we’re having a contest this summer. Make predictions about how many points Habs players will get, and if you’re right at the end of the season you’ll be up for some prizes. A copy of The Game by Ken Dryden has already been put up and there are going to be more prizes available.

    http://www.habseyesontheprize.com/2011/5/15/2172619/prediction-contest

  44. Mike D says:

    What makes the Jagr/Mtl. thing so hard to judge is that besides not knowing what his true intentions are, the variance in what COULD be the result of him coming here is huge. I’m sure we could all justify these two extremes playing out:
    1) He might not be able to play the minutes or schedule and get worn down early in the season. He might not produce anywhere close to even 3rd line levels and the NHL game has passed him by. He can’t keep up with our team’s speed. He becomes a locker room distraction. He can’t/won’t play the System. Etc.
    2) He does “still have it” to play the NHL game and can do the sched. no problem. He could be very effective and put up 25+ goals. Him and Pleks have that same magic together. He becomes a great guy in the room and plays with fire for one more shot at the Cup. His big body and puck protection are just what we need. etc.

    This is basically the extreme worst and best scenarios, and either is highly possible, not to mention everything in between.

    - Honestly yours

  45. avatar_58 says:

    Wouldn’t Jagr in a habs jersey signal the end of the so called “UFA’s don’t want to play here” mentality? I mean choosing montreal over the pens? Sure would seem like it.

    Just sayin….

    • habsindepth says:

      and that in turn would avoid the Habs having to sign a dud like Gomez to attract UFAs. That’s the whole so called reasoning we have been fed since Gomez joined, “oh it was necessary to attract the other UFAs to Montreal”. I call that BS. Other UFAs would have signed regardless with the Habs when given the bucks.

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      Twitter: @habsindepth

    • issie74 says:

      Mario ordered Jagr to play better or find another team to play with,and that was when he still had an upside.What makes you think he would want him now.

  46. HardHabits says:

    Why stop there? BG should take another trip to Sweden and see if he can convince both Sundin and Forsberg to tie’em up one more time.

    With Jagr on board, it would only be a matter of time until Lang throws himself into the mix.

    Think of it. Sundin, Forsberg, Jagr and Lang.

    Freak. Let’s extend Spacek and resign Hamrlik while we’re at it.

    • HabsFan2 says:

      Do you think people in Anheim felt the same when talk of Teemu joining the Ducks was happening?

      Btw, Teemu is older than Jagr.
      ———————————————-
      I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

      • Mike D says:

        I doubt many people in Anaheim even knew who Teemu WAS before he played there.

        - Honestly yours

        • HabsFan2 says:

          Why, doesn’t Anaheim get the internet?

          It took all of 2.7 seconds for me to find Raphael Diaz on google.

          My point is, only Habs fans can go out of their minds over a rumour.

          July 1st can come fast enough. lol
          ———————————————-
          I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

          • Mike D says:

            LOL – just pointing out the fact that Anaheim isn’t a traditional hockey market so most people there, in addition to not knowing who he was, might not have even had the propensity to check the internet and find out. :-)

            - Honestly yours

          • HabsFan2 says:

            @MideD

            I know buddy. I was just farkin’ with you

            ———————————————-
            I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

          • Mike D says:

            @HabsFan2

            I figured as much…just wanted to be sure ;-)

            - Honestly yours

        • J.J. of Turku says:

          My guess is they still don’t have a clue. Would be a huge if someone even knows they have a hockey team?

          http://media.turku.fi/kamera1.html

        • LA Loyalist says:

          I guess that’s the advantage for management of not being in Canada. They don’t have the Commentariat breathing over their shoulders :)

      • HardHabits says:

        Let’s try and get Teemu and Saku too. Might as well get older as well as smaller while we’re at it.

        • HabsFan2 says:

          Tank, but no tanks!!

          Better yet. Let’s start that rumour and watch people lose their minds.

          ———————————————-
          I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

          • HardHabits says:

            The Habs finished 24th in 2000-2001. Nobody in Montreal committed hare kiri. This site would implode though. HIO is to Habs fans what Al Qaida is to the mujahideen. A source of over the top information with the intention of stoking the flames.

            There is no doubt in my mind that the Habs need the type of player in their development system that can only be found in the early rounds of the draft. That they need a few of these players. That they need these players in their prime, as opposed to their being in the swan song (bet you like that analogy) years.

            It’s a long road from middle of the pack to Stanley Cup contender. A daunting task. One that historically has left the Habs spinning their wheels in the mud.

            Burke didn’t have to tank to get the Sedins for Vancouver. Boston converted a 5th in Kessel into a 2nd called Seguin. It’s called being shrewd, or it’s called being lucky, but it’s not called throwing away draft picks like they have no value as the Habs tend to do, especially in the past.

    • el heffe says:

      oh..you’re sarcastic. love it!

      nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

  47. patience is a virtue says:

    PG’s been a busy beaver at the WC it seems. Emelin, Diaz, and now Jagr.

    I tend to agree that there’s a lot of potential upside to Jagr in the CH and few risks in terms of a one year contract with money that is needed for Price and Subban in 12/13 anyway. Add to that the weak crop of UFAs this year, the attraction of playing with Pleks, and a desperate need for scoring depth, and I start to take the proposition seriously.

    I wonder if Jagr does?

    And, can he really play top line minutes? Maybe him and AK platoon it?

  48. jon514 says:

    Plekanec is a leader on this team. He’s a go-to guy for the coaches and he’s a player the younger kids look up to.

    Jagr is a guy that Plekanec looks up to. Not only because of what he’s accomplished, but because they work out together in the summers, and because they play together with great success in international tournaments.

    If you trust Plekanec to wear an “A” and lead this team, don’t you have to trust where he’s leading you when he says he wants Jagr on his wing?

    “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

    • patience is a virtue says:

      did he say that?

      • jon514 says:

        I believe I read that he recommended Jagr… not sure where I read it, also not sure he said he wants him on his wing… that was my assumption.

        “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

    • SnowManHabs85 says:

      Of course he would want Jagr on his wing, he is his childhood hero on poster.

      “Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock

      • TommyB says:

        I had a poster of Bridgette Bardot straddling a motorcycle on my wall at one time. If she wanted to update that photo today, I don’t think it would be hanging on my wall this time around.

        • jon514 says:

          The difference is that Jagr was still a difference maker when he left this league and has continued to produce at a high level since. He even had a positive effect on Gomez, as Gomez had his last productive season with Jagr on his team (not sure they played on the same line). But it’s interesting to note that he has a successful history with both of our top line centers.

          “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

        • el heffe says:

          hahahahahahaha! to the Bridgette Bardot comment

          nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

    • SmartDog says:

      Good point. i’m sure PG would talk to Plex if he were thinking of making an offer and I am sure those comments while not being decisive would carry strong weight.

  49. habsindepth says:

    Tell me you guys have seen this goal by Mikael Garnlund:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uk3FWToczA

    WOW!

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  50. habs365 says:

    It don’t take a Rocket Scientists to figure out why the Habs don’t go far in the playoffs–Lack of scoring–defense, maybe a little tinkering–Goaltending is great–so PG improve the scoring and this team will be ok..the bottom 6-7 is the weak link……

  51. Chris79 says:

    Hey, Been awhile since i posted… since the Last Game i guess… anyways… About Jaromir Jagr wearing the Habs Jersey..IF..? he does Wear it.. Plekanec is gonna have a 100 points Season, Cammalleri is finally gonna get that 40+ goal Season or even more.. Our Power Play is gonna be feared… Jagr still has alot of Horse in’em still… Would be totally Sweet to have this guy… He still has his Dangles.. prolly not like 10 years ago.. but a few lol.

    • SmartDog says:

      Love your enthusiasm and people are going to say he’s washed up yadda yadda (based on what? his leading scoring in the KHL or at Worlds? pffftt) but I think he just needs the right setting. He obviously clicks with Pleks and would love the adoration he’d get in Mtl. They guy is proud, proud, proud. I think he might wear down over the season but I bet he’d come out on fire.

  52. SmartDog says:

    DISCLAIMER #!: Jagr was one of my favorite players in the 90′s.

    I don’t tilt at windmills that often. But I’d LOVE to see Jagr with the Habs for one year. And though I don’t disagree with Basu too often, I think he’d be at home playing in the top 6, no problem. Sure he’s slowed a little but his hockey smarts are top notch and at 6’3″ he’s got a big stride and a huge reach. Hell, we’ve had Travis Moen and Jeff Hapern on our top line!!!!!! Tell me either of these guys could score a point a game in the international tournament.

    Older wingers can get by when they’ve slowed a little easier than older centers (cough-Sundin-cough), and if anyone can do it, someone of Jagr’s talent and determination can. And for one -year it’s a modest gamble on a team that DESPERATELY needs both size up front and scoring production.

    Forget the naysayers, Jagr for a year is a small gamble with a HUGE potential upside and little downside because at least he’d be good on the PP and bring some star-power to our forward, a mentor to our kids, and a spark on our team.

    • punkster says:

      I’m in for shits and giggles. What I do not know is this: what’s the max dollar value and term on which PG should agree? My guess is $2M for one year but the Cap geeks here should be able to tell us.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • SmartDog says:

        PG has the room for this year. It’s NEXT year he’s gotta watch it because Price and Subban will be getting raises. This is another strength of Jagr, he only wants a 1-year deal so is a good fit.
        Hey, 24 Cups, I agree Basu is the bomb, but you say you agree with him and then say Jagr would be in our top 6 (agreeing with me). I agree with much of what Basu says too but this is where I disagree and you seem to be on board with me. Jagr needs to beat out AK who did pretty well on our 3rd line, and possibly who else? Pouliot? Moen? I mean, we’re not exactly brimming with scoring talent.

        • shiram says:

          How do you know Jagr wants a one year deal? I’ve read rumours about that, but nothing solid.
          As for if he makes the team this year, you have to figure a trial period on the third line would be where he starts. That’s with an healthy top 6 already in place of course, but if MaxPac comes back, I don’t see Jagr taken a top6 spot out of the gates.

          He’d probably get a PP nod, and you could see him with Plekanc then.

          • Mike D says:

            Jagr could (being the operative word) take AK’s spot on the line with Pleks and Cammy. Max-Pac plays with Gomer and Gio. AK goes to the 3rd line with Eller and another winger (likely DD) so we have 3 potential scoring lines – a top 9 instead of a top 6.

            - Honestly yours

    • 24 Cups says:

      SD – I think Aron Basu’s article is spot on (is it just me, or has Basu becomee one of the must reads in terms of the Habs? Right up there with MB and JT)

      Can he play on the top two lines? I think so. It would mean that he would have to beat out AK46, that’s about it. Even if he does, that might mean we would finally have a decent 3rd line with some scoring punch. Same goes if Jagr lands up on the 3rd line but I doubt his ego could handle that assignment.

    • twocents says:

      I think I am less enthusiastic than you, but I essentially agree. I believe anyone who doesn’t see the value in it, is likely belly aching in their usual manner. There’s no doubt he would make us a better team and more competitive.

      Sure, it’s not a move that returns the franchise to its former glory, but it would be a shrewd maneuver with little downside.

  53. Old Bald Bird says:

    IMO if Jagr were to come, it would be to bridge the gap until some of the younger prospects are more ready. Heck, without injuries the Habs are pretty good, so I see him as a positive addition. I’m pretty sure he has been watched and evaluated as to whether he can contribute. If the scouts etc think he can and we can sign him for the right price for a year, I think it could work out.

    I’ll eat my hat if Laich signs with us. Few seem to grasp that Montreal isn’t a destination of choice for FAs. When they do come, we have to overpay, and I don’t think that’s going to happen this year.

    – formerly notbigbird –

  54. PeterStone says:

    the more I think about Jagr in MTL , the more I like the idea. Lets face it, he wont be worse than AK. He wont make more money than him. If anything, you sign him, stick him on RW … you have Gio and Jagr RW, Cammi and MaxPac on LW.

    Gives you an asset to trade in AK , and hopefully you can pick up this elusive C we have been search 10+ years for. Yes, I know I am dreamin’ about the C … but push comes to shove, I am sure you can get some effective players for an AK .

    While you’re at it PG, find a home for Spacek and another league or continent for Gomez

  55. RetroMikey says:

    As I lay down here to sleep, I pray dear Lord, Gauthieur not to sign any washed up players like a Jagr.
    I’d sign a Brooks Laich instead dear Lord!

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • 24 Cups says:

      RM – Let’s forget Jagr for a minute.

      Lots of posters seem to be hot the trot on Brooks Laich. Don’t get me wrong, he appears to be a great team player who has decent talent. Can he play top line minutes? No. Second line? Maybe, but we already have Gionta and MaxPac. What about centre? Gomez is the #2 centre next year. Bank on it.

      So we are now paying a guy 4-5M a year for five years because he’s the best UFA by default. I’m not sure that’s a great way to go. It’s like trying to get Penelope Cruz to star in your movie and having to settle for Melanie Griffith.

      BTW, interesting point (above) about 3rd lines.

      Torres/Hansen/Laps

      Bergenheim/Moore/Downie

      Mitchell/Pavelski/Wellwood

      Ryder/Peverley/Seguin

      Pouliot/Eller(DD)/Darche

      The Habs don’t have a Pavelski or Downie, but if Pouliot had of only come thru……..

  56. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    Not that I put a whole lot of stock into anything Bob Hartley says,
    but he says in an interview with CKAC that he’s convinced that Diaz will be in the Habs’ lineup next year. He also says Diaz may not be as physically developed as Streit yet, but that he has better vision in the offensive zone and has an accurate wrist shot that he uses a lot.

    Take it for what it’s worth, but at least it’s not just Diaz’s agent who sees him as a special player.

    • habs03 says:

      I highly doubt it, if he does make it, it would be mid-way through the season. Why have him as the 7th-8th D-man making 800K, when you can have Picard at 500K on a way 1 contact. This is what happined to White last year, since he was on a 2-way contact that would pay him 850K in the NHL, the team kept Pyatt, and Darche becuase of their lower cap hits.

    • 24 Cups says:

      Jan – Let’s say that’s true. Where does it leave us?

      Markov and Subban would be the top guns who are also the offensive wheel-horses. Spacek is the cap restricted vet. Maybe one of Gill or Hamrlik come back to hold us over seeing that we don’t have anyone in Hamilton who can step up right now. Or, just maybe, Yemelin takes that spot (if he signs). Gorges would come back to be a mid-level defensemen who has little offensive upside. That puts us at five, maybe even six.

      That would mean that the other two Dmen, Diaz and Weber, would be cut from the same cloth. Can we afford to have both of them on the team next year? Especially seeing that Subban and Yemelin would be the only two guys with a physical presence on the back-end? I’m pretty sure that Weber has to clear waivers so he’s probably a lock seeing we don’t want to lose another young player for little return.

      Diaz may only make the team if we have injury woes. I wonder if the game plan is to have him gain some NA experience in both pro leagues while he waits for Spacek to move out.

      • Old Bald Bird says:

        I like Weber, but I am wondering if he has become trade bait. I wonder if there are teams that would like to grab him and would be willing to give a decent return. Regardless: I think last year proved that we can’t have too many Ds in the system.

        – formerly notbigbird –

      • Mark C says:

        I think we see Diaz next year, but it will be as an injury replacement. Below I’ve listed the number of D, and number of D that played in double digit games for Montreal in the past 5 seasons. A team should have at least 8 legit short-term NHL level D. Nash and Herny are the only AHLers, right now, under contract. Nash and Diaz would seem to offer pretty good depth, perhaps enough to avert a Mara or Sopel type trade this season.

        2010-11: 13 D used, 10 played double digit games
        2009-10: 13 D used, 8 played double digit games
        2008-09: 11 D used, 8 played double digit games
        2007-08: 8 D used, all 8 played double digit games
        2006-06: 8 D used, 7 played in double digit games, also think Dandenault played some D, but didn’t count him.

    • SnowManHabs85 says:

      Wondering if Diaz would need to clear waivers if he was to play in Hamilton at the beginning of the season, anyone know?

      “Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock

      • 24 Cups says:

        Snowman – I don’t think so. That’s why he would probably lose out at training camp seeing that all the other guys would have to clear.

        http://habsprospects.hockeyhq.net/

        (Click on player list, then Diaz)

        • SnowManHabs85 says:

          Awesome. I forgot I bookmarked that site. Thanks.

          “Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock

      • Mike D says:

        If I’m not mistaken, the GM’s of the league have an unwritten rule where on one particular day before the season starts, they all send down the waiver guys they choose and nobody plucks anyone else’s players. I’ve seen it a couple years now.

        - Honestly yours

  57. Habby2CU says:

    Jagr would love Montreal – it has a very nice casino.

  58. hdcase says:

    Jagr isn’t the sort of player you sign in the summer, you sign him late in the winter if he is healthy, and if there’s room for him.

    hdcase

  59. RobertAlanFord says:

    Habs should be focused on beefing up the bottom six and getting our key dmen signed. Once all that is taken care of then PG can start entertaining this kind of thing.

    I’m gonna call this an unnecessary distraction for fans and management alike.

    • SnowManHabs85 says:

      It’s more like Media entertaining us the fact the Jagr himself mentioned Montreal as a possibility in his interview. PG has no intention of notifying the media his off season intentions, because that’s what PG does.

      “Responding to the media , or playing to the media, or listening to the fans is the quickest way to start losing” – Sam Pollock

  60. twocents says:

    Here’s my take on Jagr. I think it’s not a bad fit. I am sure he could contribute and a one year deal would not be an anchor. It would alleviate a little pressure on some younger players as they develop. It could allow Gauthier to wait for a better UFA pool in 2012. And, it would bridge the gap to when Gomez becomes movable again. In fact, if they play together, it might considerably improve Gomez’s marketability. Bottom line, it would definitely improve us for next year. Depending on what else happens signing wise and development wise, we could have a real competitive squad with Jagr.

    But, it wouldn’t make us instant cup favourites or have huge long term benefit. So, while I would be happy to have him for a year, it’s not worth waiting around, drooling. There are other approaches. There’s nothing earth shattering about this if it happens, cause he’s not the Jagr of old. But he’s probably good for 25-30 goals and that would be handy. Add that to the Gomez inflation he might induce and it could be a sweet LITTLE move.

  61. DearyLeary says:

    A couple comments:

    1) LOL@ Claude Julien: “He didn’t say Seguin would play on the power play tomorrow night in Game 2. But he did say that he considered it in Game 1, a night in which the dysfunctional Black-and-Gold power play went 0 for 4 and now stands a feckless, almost unimaginable 2 for 41 (4.9 percent)…

    “But our power play has been good the last couple of games,’’ said Julien, who saw his squad go without a power-play goal for 10 straight games, including all seven vs. the Canadiens. “Just because you struggle the first couple of ones, you [don’t] explode it again and try something new. Had it not gone well . . . he would’ve certainly been considered [for the power play].’’”

    2) Jagr at the right price, and the understanding that he wouldn’t be playing ‘horse’ type minutes feels right. The difficulty is in meeting those conditions, because he’s got an extremely big ‘personality’ (read: ego).

    No doubts about his talent, just worries about his fitting into the team’s identity.

  62. Timo says:

    Sigh. I hope PG is not even entertaining a though unless it involves getting rid of Gomez (either buying him out or sending him to the A.

    On the other hand, Jagr can’t possible make this team’s offense any worse, so… whatever. The same chicken $hit continues year in and out. Instead of making the right moves and addressing pressing issues, management is simply once again just creating an impression of trying to improve, while the end result will be season 2010-2011 all over again.

    It all starts at the top. New GM and coach are needed.

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      So, I see we now criticize management for rumoured moves they could make that have very little chance of coming to fruition.

      PG might not even be remotely interested in Jagr, yet it’s “the same old story again”. Can we at least wait until July 1 to start all the bitching?

    • HabsFanInTampa says:

      I’m not defending the ownership/management of this team, I’m actually upset at them. The reason the owners/management don’t make major or real improvements to the roster is because us Canadiens fans sell out every single preseason, regular season and playoff game that is given us, regardless of the mediocre product on the ice. The overpriced beers, food, programs, jerseys, all sell at a record pace. There is no motivation to improve the product on the ice and lower their profit margin. Unlike places like Tampa where the fans demand a better product by exercising their rights by not attending the games. Therefore a superior manager is hired (Yzerman), and superior coach is hired (Boucher) and some great talent is picked up (Brewer, etc). We’re thinking about not signing The Wiz, but thinking about signing a washed up Jagr out of the NHL for the last 3 years or so. C’mon give me a break!

      • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

        This is just over-simplification on your part. No doubt Yzerman and Boucher have done a great job in Tampa. Anyone who who knew anything about hockey knew that Tampa was under-achieving the last couple of years because their ownership, management and coaching was the biggest joke in the NHL.

        Replacing them with competent people gave guys Like Lecavalier, St-Louis and others just the shot in the arm they needed to maintain their focus over the course of a season. However, both Yzerman and Boucher are smart to have gone to Tampa, because they knew it could be a QUICK turnaround. That’s why Boucher turned down Columbus. He knew that with a couple of tweaks and renewed commitment from the players, Tampa would be a playoff team again.

        Also, you’re bashing PG for letting Wiz go, but he gets no praise for picking him up in the first place? The cap is a difficult thing to navigate. Sometimes you have to make tough choices. That’s why Halak, Moore and most likely Wiz had to be let go, because they played their way into a price point that we couldn’t match.

        • HabsFanInTampa says:

          It’s “oversimplification”, because it’s true. Ownership does not need to place a better product on the ice because they sell out every single preseason, regular season and product that has a CH on it. Very simple. No need to do anything because the profits are there. Very simple!

          • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

            But ownership has placed a btter product on the ice than when Rejean Houle and Ronald Corey were involved. We haven’t won the cup yet, but so have a LOT of teams. We are in a better position right now than we were for a LONG time. Making the playoffs every year while still developing some young talent. It used to be, we would make the playoffs and we had NO young talent. We haven’t seen kids like Price and PK on this team in a LONG time.

          • GrimJim says:

            Except you are not taking into account the effect of a deep Cup run on profits. If Mtl is only profit oriented and wants to maximize profits like all businesses do, then a deep Cup run is absolutely essential because not only does it increase profits (Boone said that last year Mtl earned $2 mil per game) but the revenue to expense ratio is greater for a playoff game because (1) players get paid less per game and (2) Mtl can increase ticket prices each round generating progressively more revenue, and no business will ever say “we’ve made enough money this year thanks” especially when the corresponding operating costs are less than the revenue generated.

        • HabsFanInTampa says:

          Boucher turned down Columbus because of other reasons, unless you have a source stating he wanted a quick turnaround. Have you ever been to Columbus? Believe me, it ain’t no Tampa.

          • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

            Any coach who’s smart (which Boucher is) doesn’t jump on the first offer to coach in the NHL if there is a lot of interest around the league. you weigh the options and you pick the best fit, but most importantly, you pick the team that will allow you to have early success in your career. If you struggle with a team for 3 years in your first NHL head coaching gig, it could be awhile before you get another one.

            Obviously, Tampa is also probably a much better place to live. If Columbus were the only offer on the table, Boucher probably still would have taken the job, because it’s not like he wouldn’t have anything to work with (Nash, Brassard, Voracek, etc.). Tampa was just a quicker fix with the vets they had in place to go along with Stamkos and Hedman.

        • habs03 says:

          This excatly, and to answer to the poster below, he wouldn’t have interviewed for the Jackets job if he wasn’t interested, Elliot Friedman even said that Stevie Y only offered the job after the Jackets did, thats why Boucher asked for a few days to decide when the Jackets offered him the job.

          • HabsFanInTampa says:

            Not true. I’ve interviewed for many jobs I WASN’T interested in. It gave me a practice run on the questions and put me at ease and gave me more ‘leverage” for when I interviewed for the jobs I WAS interested in, by telling those employers that I’ve interviewed at “so and so”, etc.

        • HabsFanInTampa says:

          “Don’t be dense”?. I’ve always respected fellow bloggers on this site by not resorting to names. I’m dense because I don’t agree with your opinions? I would call you dense. Did I call you an idiot when you stated that the “Capitals were going to kill Tampa in 5″. No. Anyway, whatever. It’s 80 degrees, cloudless and sunny today in Tampa. I’m going for a jog on the Gulf of Mexico. What’s the weather in Columbus, OH? Have a nice day G-String.

        • HabsFanInTampa says:

          Yeah, so?!?! What’s your point? Tampa is in the ECF. Where are the Habs? Tampa spends money they do have because Jeff Vinik is a multi-billionaire. Your arguments are uneducated, uncalculated and sophmoric. Your letting your emotions dictate your immature responses. I’m done with you, good-bye.

      • habs365 says:

        HabsFanInTampa: Excellent comment, just the way it is.

      • deuce6 says:

        Didn’t T-Bay trade for a 40+ goaltender? They gave up one of their top prospects in the process, BTW…If Jagr is signed, we are giving nothing up except cap space…

        ——————

        Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

      • _Habsoloutly_ says:

        “We’re thinking about not signing The Wiz,”

        How do you know what the management is thinking? and I hate to break it to you but we can’t just “sign” the Wiz. We can make him an offer, just like 29 other teams cans, it’s up to the Wiz to “sign” with us. He’s UFA, why is that so hard for some of you to understand?

    • petefleet says:

      That’s a little dramatic Timo. They were one goal away from advancing. Alot of what the managemant has done has been positive. The Gomez situation is dire though and needs immediate action, ie get rid of him. As for Jagr, see my post below.

      ***Habs Forever***

    • DearyLeary says:

      What ‘pressing’ issues would you address, and how?

  63. petefleet says:

    IMO: Jagr is exactly what the Habs are missing. He’s not a centre but can play there. Stick him in Gomez’s place and it’s the Habs in the confererence final, not The Broons. He’s big, physical at times, and still has soft hands. The comparison to Mats Sundin is very unfare. JJ never had a season yet where he played down to Sundin’s level. JJ by some accounts in second only to Mario in pure skill and talent. SIGN HIM!!!! Throw Gomer down in the minors and don’t waist another second trying to get him to regain his form….whatever that was. IF PG lets next year unfold the way this year did, he should be fired. He made alot of good moves but alas, he may be remebered for the one he didn’t. Ditch Gomer now!!

    ***Habs Forever***

  64. HabinBurlington says:

    Plan A should be a Brooks Laich for the #1 line, a player going to corners and front of net.
    Plan B should include Plan A and add another physical player to 3/4th line who forecheck Ferrence through the glass. We have to get a hitter.
    Plan C is PG rechecking he has done Plan A and B.
    Plan D if and only if you have cap room extra offer it to Jagr. No disrespect to his talents, but we all watched this team battle all year. We watched what an impact having Max Pac taken from our team was. Yes Jagr is 6’4″ and 240ish, but he is not going to raise our sandpaper/grit level. He will get points, but we need to be able to wear out other teams defensemen. I am not asking to hire a goon, a Cal Clutterbuck etc… on our 4th line.

    Great Effort Boys, PG get to work this Summer!

  65. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    Marc-Antoine Godin of La Presse has an article about the possibility of Jagr joining the Habs and he says that contrary to rumours that circulated a couple of weeks ago, PG has not completely shut the door on Jagr, but that it seems like he would be more of a back-up plan in case PG doesn’t get what he wants on July 1.

    That’s how I would look at Jagr too. Not the best Plan A, but a decent Plan B or C at the right price.

  66. Mattyleg says:

    (Posted this on the other thread. Going to win the Redundancy Sweepstakes if it kills me…)

    I told this story before, but I’ll tell it again, seeing as how I know so very few of them, and I’m honing my ‘boring-dinner-guest’ skills to a dull, pointless tip.

    When I was living in Poland during the lockout, Jagr came to Kladno to play for his hometeam. He was treated like royalty throughout the Czech republic, despite many talented Czechs coming home to play. He was on the front covers of magazines and newspapers. He was huuuuge. He got 28pts in 17 games with Kladno, and then, suddenly, he told everyone that he was fecking off to Russia to play for Avangard Omsk.

    “Why??” cried the Kladno fans. “Why??” cried the Extraliga.

    Jagr’s response: “I never said I was going to play here the WHOLE season…”

    ecccccchhhh….

    Kinda curdles your guts, don’t it?

    P.S. Before I get the ‘yeah, but he’s a point-producer’ and ‘if you think that (yaddayadda) you’re fooling yourself’ nonsense; I’m just telling a story. It happened. Take it as you will.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  67. nek25plus says:

    No Jagr…too old, too prima donna-ish. He only took a 4 minute warm up in the whc and a fill in player took his place after that!!!Ugggg

    We could bring back Lapierre though!

  68. How on earth did I miss Eller being out 4-6 months? When did this happen and what is the injury?

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  69. Chris says:

    I am one of the few that has liked Jagr his entire career and I do feel he could add quite a bit to the Habs…I would not be surprised if he would immediately become the team’s second best offensive player after Plekanec.

    But I don’t think it is going to happen. The Habs just don’t have the budget to sign Jagr with all the other work they need to do on the roster, unless Jagr’s agent takes a deal far, far below market value.

    • pat s says:

      If a 39 year old that has been playing outside of the NHL becomes 2nd in our teams scoring than we may as well go play in the AHL b/c basically that means our team is a joke.

      I want Montreal to go after UFAs myself but not 39 year olds unless we were 1 year away from a cup. Detroit, Pens etc that I can see it.

  70. TommyB says:

    Nice trip down memory lane this morning, Stubbs. Thanks! The only disturbing visual in my mind, would be a “beauty parlor” operated by Jacques Plante.

  71. TommyB says:

    Jagr coming to Montreal…..has almost the same smell to it as some names in the past, who dropped a rumour about their desire to play in Montreal, only to use it as leverage to get a higher bid elsewhere. A proven strategy.

    • arcosenate says:

      I have to agree with you, he’s playing games and he’s just leveraging for a larger contract in the KHL. I think it’s already time for the fan base to move on…

    • pat s says:

      I agree. Go ask M. Lemieux about Jagr. He told him you are not welcome in Pittsberg anymore.

      • HabsFan2 says:

        Really? Better tell Mario that…

        Penguins interested in Jagr

        ———————————————-
        I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

        • pat s says:

          I know he may go back there, but i’ll take the chance that he won’t. If he does, you have every right to go at me on this one–I’ll deserve it

          • HabsFan2 says:

            But…but…you stated that M. Lemieux told him, and I quote: “you are not welcome in Pittsberg anymore.”

            Are you now saying you made that up? Shocking!!
            ———————————————-
            I have come home.” – Patrick Roy

          • pat s says:

            I just remember how he left Pittsberg–Lemieux told him to get lost–I don’t need you, that’s what he said. You know why I say this, b/c if he wanted him to stay Jagr would have stayed in Pittsberg.

            See I don’t buy excuses. If you want a player that badly you can get him. Too many excuses in Montreal for not being able to sign players. I don’t want to hear that crap that this player didn’t want to come, this player wasn’t interested, blah blah blah.

            The only reason players don’t come reflects on management’s inability or lack of interest to sign that player. You want the cash, than get the job done and get players in Montreal that will bring us a cup. Too many excuses in Montreal these days.

            I will say I was wrong about this if he signs in Pittsberg.

            Remember, you were telling me I was wrong about Gainey but I think, sorry, I know I was right, and think, sorry I know you were wrong. Aside from a conference final, they did crap with him as a GM. The only thing Gainey did was allow our players to get bullied during recess in the schoolyard by teams like Boston. Also, he improved most of the player’s golf score.

  72. HalifaxHabs says:

    I like it, as long as they keep his price down.

    Cammy, Pleks, Jagr
    Max, Gomer, Gio
    AK46, Lars, _____(possibly a UFA like, Leino or Laich… or Desharnias if no UFA’s are brought in for that spot)

    I like that top 9, it gives us scoring punch on all 3 lines.

  73. Ian Cobb says:

    Jagr, could help on the 2nd or 3rd line, but not at any price! He needs to want to play here, and not just for his wallet alone. We have had enough of older guys just putting in time for their pay checks.

  74. HabFanSince72 says:

    He’d probably have him play with Moen and Halpern.

  75. The Cat says:

    Yeah exactly, besides I dont think Jagr would buy into the anal commitment to defense approach. In theory Jagr could work, but in practice Im pretty sure itd be a disaster. Why would he want to come into a system where only the goalie looks good?

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  76. LA Loyalist says:

    Martin will bench him in the first game for venturing near the enemy’s net in violation of le system. As punishment he’ll have to watch video loops of Gomez’s rushes.

  77. twocents says:

    Let me know how that works out for you.


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