Total suckitude

The Canadiens played their worst game of the season against a tough, physical, up-and-coming team.

Three more against Atlanta.

Ain’t none of them going to be easy.


  1. Chris says:

    I could go back in the archives and dig up the culprits, many of whom I think are very sane, but there were a lot of people talking up Komisarek into the $5+ million range the summer before he was a free agent.  That he ultimately got $4.5 million per season suggests that it wasn’t so insane, given that he had a bad season derailed by shoulder woes in his contract year.

  2. TomNickle says:

    And if you can explain to me how giving the Montreal Canadiens or Minnesota Wild ultimatums or throwing Carey Price under the bus are promotions of his clients I’ll tap dance naked on the 55 yard line at McGill stadium next weekend.

  3. Clay4bc says:

    Point taken – you were there. Just the way you worded it first made me think otherwise.

    But if it’s as you say, that’s terrible.


    I had some hockey taglines, but I don’t know where the puck I put them.

  4. jbroderi says:

    you just made the same point I made.  Lots were pissed because halak was traded.  He was pissed today, because Price is playing well.  Most fans thought we would lose without halak but never hoped we would.  this guy was wishing that the habs would lose because he liked halak.  It goes beyonf preference.


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  5. Bugs says:

    Yahoo, c’mon.

    If you can’t give credit for what he accomplished with SLOVAKIA, when will you?

  6. Danno says:

    FYI –

    Initialisms are another type of abbreviation. They are often
    confused with acronyms because they are made up of letters, so they look
    similar, but they can’t be pronounced as words.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  7. Danno says:




    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  8. Hockey Socks says:

    “Moving on to Mr. Walsh. Before we get to whether or not I agree with
    him, let me stick up for him. He has a first amendment right to say just
    about anything he wants. He also has mastered the art of incorporating
    the use of social media into the representation of his clients. Walsh
    has a duty to promote his clients in whatever means he deems
    appropriate. He has no allegiance to the team or to the fans, only to
    his client. Love it or hate it, it is what is it is. Agents represent
    players, and they can do so however they and their client choose to do

    – Buddha, Hockey Wilderness Blog

  9. MikeMcLaren says:

    For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge!


  10. Bugs says:

    You had heard of Eller before the trade, Berkie?

    If he’s such a blue-chipper, I think I woulda heard of’m too, but you’re absolutely right: my ignorance isn’t a good supporting argument.

    I cannot deny that his work ethic on the ice as well as his courage is beyond reproach. His vision is also very enticing. Hopefully, his production will reflect that at some time to the point where he gives equal value for what we gave up for’m.

  11. jbroderi says:

    if he was my agent I’d tell him to shut the hell up




    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  12. says:

    Walsh screwed Halak big time with his tweets.  You don’t mess around with management, it’s a sure fire way to get outta Dodge! 

    Then again, odds are Halak was leaving town no matter what.

    I’ll take the Bigger Younger Canadian Kid any day.

    Like Scotty Bowman said “Don’t trade Price”.

    They Call Me Shane

  13. Robert L says:

    Oh I was just trying to make you smile Mike, I know what an acronym is!

  14. notbigbird says:

    If you’re still here, which I doubt since we’re on page 2, I say I see your point, but it’s an alternate scenario. I’m just saying, given what happened and what is the present reality, what I presented is a reasonable way to look at it. If it had gone down differently, there would be another way, perhaps yours, to look at the situation, and it would also be a perfectly legitimate viewpoint.

  15. Wayne says:



    Ok, my bad.

  16. TomNickle says:

    Hey, it’s refreshing news when it happens, not of the every day variety.  But NHL franchises don’t appreciate taking orders publicly from a man who represents a tiny percentage of the league’s players.  And every time Walsh goes off on a tirade about his clients’ icetime, he’s crapping in the living rooms of the organizations for which his players play.  It may very well be good business for him in that more players will want a representative who goes to bat publicly for them, then again, if he continues down this path players will be hesitant to hire him because there will be teams who refuse to deal with him.

    Either way, it shows a severe lack of class and etiquette to act like you know more about how to build a successful hockey team than the managers who have your client as an asset.  

    If you were a dairy farmer and a mason told the local media that you didn’t know what you were doing you would probably have a problem with that.

  17. punkster says:

    Sigh…the 14 year olds on this site really elevate the discussion.

  18. andrewberkshire says:

    If what Walsh says on twitter was said in private instead, no one would hate him, because he’d just be a regular agent. Instead he airs dirty laundry publicly, so he’s a douche bag. No matter where he happens to have been born.

  19. says:

    He’s made himself look like an ass more than once on twitter.

    They Call Me Shane

  20. Bugs says:

    Yahoo, he was traded before he got his second pad off last game of the season. St.Louie was WAITIN. There was NOBODY else. His name was NEVER out there. There was NO auction.

    Philly or Chicky or SJ (or whoever) couldn’t’ve or wouldn’t’ve antied up on ELLER? For a num 1 goalie???

    I find that hard to believe. You may be right, Yahoo, but I personally find that hard to believe.

  21. twocents says:

    You can eat whatever you like, but by my measure both jumps are about the same distance… unknown.

  22. andrewberkshire says:

    The guy’s meaning was probably a bit more discernable in person.

  23. Mike Boone says:

    An acronym (pronounced AK-ruh-nihm, from Greek acro- in the sense of extreme or tip and onyma or name) is an abbreviation of several words in such a way that the abbreviation itself forms a pronounceable word. The word may already exist or it can be a new word. Webster’s cites SNAFU and radar, two terms of World War Two vintage, as examples of acronyms that were created.

    Back to retirement with you, Robert.

  24. SeriousFan09 says:

    Olympic Titan? Where’s his medal? Oh right, it’s around Kiprusoff’s neck, the goalie from that Medal Game who didn’t blow a 3rd-period lead for his team.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  25. Hockey Socks says:

    I feel like Walsh is just like any other agent except he’s more up-front and public than most have been. He’s a pioneer of sorts. His job is to represent and protect his clients and that’s what he does. He’s not a coach, a player, or a GM. He can say what he wants because in the end he’s not directly related to the operation of the team. Agents always badger teams if their clients are unhappy. Personally, I like getting a glimpse into that side of hockey.

  26. habstrinifan says:

    So many reason to have dumped Samsonov othe rthan his agent.

  27. andrewberkshire says:

    Bugs, just because YOU didn’t know who Eller was, doesn’t mean he wasn’t a high profile player. Your own ignorance isn’t exactly a good argument to diminish the kid. Bottom line is Eller is a bluechipper, a future top 2 center on this team, and he was called the best european prospect not in the NHL last year.

  28. andrewberkshire says:

    That’s what I’m basing my argument on actually, Chris did an excellent job on that blog. We basically got an equal return to what Nashville got for Vokoun, only we got prospects instead of picks, who are more developed and more likely to make the NHL.

  29. Bill J says:

    See your assuming about Price here. 

    1) YES Jaro wanted out, or he would have fired his agent for his remarks.  The fact that Walsh was STILL Jaro’s agent was quite telling.

    2) At NO point did Price or his agent make a claim that he wanted out, as a matter of fact I know someone who IS close to Price, and I was told in a very clear fashion prior to him signing “Price wants to play in Montreal, he wants to prove it not only to the fans but to himself that he can play up to his expectations”

    Price has not once hinted he was unhappy with Montreal.

  30. Bugs says:

    “We’ll never know.” ???

    Oh, we’ll know. Sooner or later, we’ll know.

    I give Eller 2 years, this year included, to pop 20-25 goals or 45-55pts a season. Either that, or the same period for Halak to go down like the Titanic.

    If neither happens, I will be hoppin peeved.

    And I can hop, baby.

  31. Clay4bc says:

    Did it ever occur to you that he was pissed that Jaro got traded, not that Carey is doing well?

    It could be that, no?

    As for me, I was (note the “was”, because that ship has sailed) pissed that Jaro got traded, but am ecstatic that Carey is playing lights-out hockey. See my point?


    Cross an evangelist with a hockey player, and get a puck that saves itself

  32. Bugs says:

    That’s because I don’t think it’s such a leap of logic to suggest we coulda gotten more in return for a playoff hero and Olympic titan than what we did, certainly not as big a leap as to foresee what the return’ll do 3-4 years into “the future” as other posters counter.

    Perron, we know what we’re gettin. Pietrangelo, we know. Giroux, we know. Eller, never heard of’m. And for Halak, I think I should’ve.

    Just my opinion. Maybe I’m completely wrong and Eller will quickly equal out. I want to eat crow, Deuce. Heck, I’ll even eat crow next year. I hope to eat it THIS year but I WILL eat it next year gladly too, I promise.

    After next year, I ain’t eatin nothin. Bad deal.

  33. jbroderi says:



    not dure, but maybe the F stands for fingerbang

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  34. andrewberkshire says:

    Actually, it was at the beginning of November of last year, and Halak was starting most of the games up to that point, where he was benched for the entire month of November.

  35. Robert L says:

    My rant was just to state that there will never be evidence found, as it doesn’t exist.

    According to Boyle, the Habs gained a decent return.

  36. TomNickle says:

    Except that it hasn’t happened just once, ask the Minnesota Wild.

  37. Hockey Socks says:

    I don’t like the Allan Walsh hate. I think he’s doing a lot of good things for the game – especially in terms of using social media. He made one mistake, that’s all. He wasn’t “driving a wedge” between anyone.

    Maybe I’m biased because he’s a Chomedey boy like myself, but in general I feel like he’s a positive personality in the hockey world.

  38. jbroderi says:

    not to be picky, but Hedman went second overall and people can compare Hedman to Hamrlik if they like, but the Hammer did too much in his career to be compared to Hedman.

    It’s like saying that Brett HUll was like an Older stamkos.  It only goes one way!


    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  39. ZepFan2 says:

    Beware the wrath of Bugs. 😉


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  40. Danno says:

    It’s an initialism, right Boone?


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  41. Wayne says:

    One has no further to look than Chelios or Roy for proof you don’t bite the hand that feeds, less an agent.

  42. Bill J says:

    What’d you miss ? apparently quite a bit, why dont’cha research a bit more.

    In your own words.

    I reply to who I please.

    And I will share my opinions when I please also.

    As for supporting Price – you certainly have a funny way of showing it.

    And if you can not see what I mean by that, frankly speaking.  I can not help you understand it, it is simply common sense.  Something you seem to lack on this subject.

    BTW I’ve told you this before, my name is Bill.  NOT Billy.  You really do seem to miss-understand the concept that talking to me as if I was some child is quite ignorant.  Specially when I am likely older then you.

  43. TomNickle says:

    Thank you showey.  And with an affirmative answer having the potential to be destructive to the team, you can safely assume that the trade request was made.  And I say that because if he hadn’t requested a trade, he should’ve been shouting a denial from rooftops.

  44. Exit716 says:

    You missed the whole Samsonov saga?

  45. Robert L says:

    It wouldn’t be the only reason, but if an agent buggers with the psyche of your team, he can become as much of a distraction as a dressing room cancer.

  46. andrewberkshire says:

    Agreed. But I wasn’t talking about trade rumours so much as precedence. Halak brought it more that any goalie traded in recent history, and that’s while he was an unproven, unsigned RFA.

  47. ZepFan2 says:

    We’re back to beating this dead horse, Bugs?

    I thought this was done. Especially now that Eller has scored AND that he’s playing on a line with Benny?! Guess not.

    Have fun getting ripped…again, Bugsy!


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  48. TomNickle says:

    Really?  You’re uncomfortable with the organization ridding themselves of a player whose agent gives the franchise ultimatums?

  49. Wayne says:

    Bugs = Troll, (oh and wants alot of attention,since does not get alot, must have very small peenus)


    I’d say that was a little harsh but alot more immature and uncalled for. Don’t like him/her? Ignore them.

  50. Mike Boone says:

    That isn’t an acronym. Acronyms have to be pronounceable, like NATO or AIDS.

  51. showey47 says:

    When halak was asked if he asked to be traded. “Maybe i did,maybe i didn’t. It’s between me and my agent”.


  52. Timo says:

    of course… what else?


  53. Bugs says:

    You always were a wily one, mate. 😉

  54. MikeMcLaren says:

    “Good For You” right?


  55. SeriousFan09 says:

    Amen, I know the Habs are a bit short to be Top Contenders, but a miracle run so Hamrlik could take his shot at the Cup would be fantastic.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

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