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Pretty lifeless effort.
And here’s a scoop: Number 57 isn’t number 67
No it’s my magical-saying which has the 4-game win streak! I didn’t say it the 2nd game of our present 5-game win streak.
Oh yeah, I forgot. It’s the N. H. Hell…
“Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
Come on Habbies! Do your Papa G proud!
(4-game win streak!)
HOW IS THERE NO BASIS FOR AN INVESTIGATION? Simply put, the purported VICTIM of this possible CRIME has stated that he felt he was targeted SPECIFICALLY and injured on PURPOSE. That does not warrant a conviction, but last I knew its at least good enough for an investigation.
Very ridiculous that there is this attitude out there that if something happens in a hockey rink, all the consequences should stay in the sport. The NHL is not some sovereign land, in fact its a joke.
Now if ‘gimme a break’ means you think the SPM is a joke and nothing will come of it, then fine, I can’t opine. But if your implying that the probe itself is a joke, then YOU give ME a break.
Holy crap. Have you seen Mark Spector’s op-ed over at Sportsnet.ca? He blames Pacioretty for the injury, accusing him of (and I quote) “poking the bear” and putting himself into a vulnerable position. He says that Max really should have avoided Chara, adding that he “was foolish enough to put himself in a position where the big Bruin could exact payback” for his overtime shove. In other words: Max was just asking for it.
It’s just another example of the old “flirty girl in short skirt = justified rape” excuse (i.e. “she was asking for it”).
Unbe-freaking-lievable. Shame on Spector for even claiming to be a hockey journalist. Has he no decency or common sense? At least the commentators who defended Chara saying that he did it completely by accident weren’t foolish enough to intimate that Zdeno should have been excused even if it were on purpose. Frankly, Habs management should make it clear that he is unwelcome on Bell Centre premises or the players should just refuse to talk to him. At minimum, someone in the business (Mr. Boone, Stubbs, Todd, Fisher?) should call this guy out.
Might turn in to an inspiration but it will take time, doubt tonight’s game will be focused at all.
Eh, I can’t say I’m familiar with this guy’s work, but I’m pretty sure that entire article was written sarcastically.
If you think HIO can get bad – try the ESPN boards covering the hit. It’s brutal!
My question – does an incident like this inspire the team to rise to the top of the East or distract them out of the playoffs?
This will be my first post since last Saturday. I usually post during the game blog but for some reason, I didn’t post on Tuesday.
There’s no question this incident is rooted in Patch’s shove after the OT goal. Chara felt “slighted”. I remember saying to myself, Uh-Oh. Max was pretty well marked for something by Chara after that. I’ve seen Chara’s youtube collection of hits and especially fights,.. that’s why I mumbled the “Uh Oh”. This guy is a raging maniac when he loses it. He knows he can overpower anyone out there. I knew he was doing a “slow burn” since that OT game. I would have thought that, to get back at Max, he would eventually goad him into dropping them or maybe corner him and bitch-slap him a bit and it would be over. No, everyone knew he was simmering. I was treading on pins and needles for that game. Big Z knew what he was doing. I don’t think he wanted to hurt him to that degree (hindsight), but he did. The bottom line is it was premeditated. He simply chose this way to do it. A coward’s way.
I, for one, was on the side with those who wanted redemption but knew we had next to NOTHING to goon them back with. So, with a Boston team like this, a wolfpack which views us like tasty sheep they can’t catch… what else would one expect.
I’ll still watch, cause I love the Habs.
If you want to see the end result of a union between pond scum and toilet runoff, read this jerk’s blog on the hit. I’ve never wanted to hit a columnist more in my life.
If you don’t want to support the blogger (understandably so) by visiting his site, his article just boiled down to his last line: “Punish Chara? We should be thanking him.”
Utter crap. People like this who glorify injury (not violence, there’s a difference) should be removed from Hockeybuzz and all other respectable sports blogs.
Oh I’m watching, I just don’t feel enthusiastic or cheerful.
I think Habs will rise and play the rest of this year out for Max. I hope it’s a distraction to the Bruins. Regardless, the $#%ers are out in the first round.
Well said. I keep wondering, who is this “good guy” commentators keep talking about? Anyone who’s seen Chara play more than a few times knows that he regularly grabs guys who clearly don’t want any part of a fight and beats the tar out of them. See: Chara vs. Lecavalier, Chara vs. Komisarek, Chara vs. Latendresse…it’s a long list. Just because he’s never injured someone during the course of the play (before now) doesn’t mean he’s not a dirty player. He blows his stack when games aren’t going his way.
Oh crap… i forgot to set my PVR. Argh!!!! I need to hook up the PRV to the router so that I can do it online next time. Crap, crap, crapitty, crap, crap!!!
im predicting a shootout
Halak will want to prove to Gauthier what a mistake it was to trade him
and Price will want to prove to Gauthier (for the 8 million time this season) that he was the right choice
this will be exciting
If anything I hope the Habs become possessed – bats outta hell – like Space Jam without the fairytale ending.
If the cops get involved here, it should be for criminal negligence on the part of the NHL. The idea of going after Chara is absolutely retarded. But going after the league for repeated failure to act in the face of a known danger? Might be something there.
That is true, the justice system should be going after the league. It makes much more sense.
Check out goon hockey over the years, it will never change.
North American hockey at its finest!
“We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “
It will be interesting to hear Don “too many men on the ice” Cherry’s take on the Chara hit on Coach’s Corner. Yes..very interesting considering it was a Boston Bruin that injured a Montreal Canadien. It is also absolutely ludicrous that the director of enforcement for the NHL has a son playing for a member club, which is a blatant conflict of interest. This “recusal” excuse offered by Colin Campbell is an utter sham as Mike Murphy is his employee and takes his orders from Campbell..ie, not an “arms length transaction”. All in all, further proof that Mario Lemieux is right and that the NHL is strictly bush league much to the disappointment and detriment of its followers.
I agree with Apron to a degree, however , he fails to reconize that the base is looking for someone to make sence of the tradgedy , to feel their pain and sence of futilty in not being able to find some redress , recouse ,to adress the sence of futility they are feeling. The League failed to respond and so we are left wallowing in our deep sense of indignation. The Canadiens Organization , Gautier , might have helped by atleast speaking out in a manner that showed some sence of responsibily to its fan base as well as the League. Im sure the league will hear it from him loud and clear,but behind closed doors ,which is like not hearing it at all. A good leader would have removed the burden of a response from patz, from his players, from his fan base , by stating clearly that the League was wrong. Then maybe the Players , the fans , could focus on the game at hand knowing that someone in the Organization had there back. In a very broad sense , this hit was and attack on us all , and we needed to hear from the management that we were wronged.
anyone know the line combos for tonight?
I would like to see Desharnais take Pac’s spot on the top line. I wouldn’t want kostitsyn to be moved away from eller and Moen. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Going after the criminal responible is not “retarded.” Allowing him to walk with no repercussions for his actions is reprihensible.
ok question – what would be penalty to canadiens organization if every player wore no. 67 jerseys in warmup?
You want to make your collective blood boil again? Here is Gary Bettman’s statement about the hit:
What a wonderful man.
Maybe Benny will bust out big time – sure would be nice. Whatever we do, don’t wake up the blues – just skate the crap out of them.
Now – if Halak stands on his head, it will be a 1-1 tie and Eller will score in the shootout to win it.
Sorry too long and I am winded.
Boone, not too sure what you have against a police investigation. There is enough evidence that proves motive and malicious intent on the part of Chara.
Based on the severity of the injury and that death was certainly a possible outcome, this has every reason to be treated as a potential criminal offense.
If you were driving your car through an underpass and squeezed someone out so they crashed into a support post, you’d be held criminally liable for your actions and responsible for any kind of personal injury the other party may have suffered.
This really should be no different, it is beyond the rules of the game, therefore it is no longer part of the game.
Anybody hear the unintentional meltdown on the Team990 about an hour ago?
How about something like……..The Montreal canadiens organization takes strong exception to the failure of the League to administer supplementary discipline for the hit on our player . The five minute major , the game misconduct imposed by on ice officials , as well as the serious nature of the injuries received , waranted a much more vigorious response by way of supplementary discipline in addition to that imposed by on ice officials.
” WASHINGTON – NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says Max Pacioretty’s injury is horrific, but it’s part of the game.
Speaking after a U.S. congressional panel discussion about encouraging American kids to get into hockey, Bettman said most concussions and head injuries this year have been from accidents or players falling—rather than as the result of hits.
As for Air Canada threatening to pull its sponsorship over such injuries, Bettman says the league can find other carriers if Air Canada doesn’t want the NHL’s business.
Montreal forward Pacioretty was hospitalized with a severe concussion and fractured vertebra after slamming into a stanchion holding the glass at the Bell Centre on a hit by Bruins captain Zdeno Chara.
The NHL subsequently elected not to suspend Chara.”
WHAT A DOUCHEBAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No i missed it… what happened? was this on Tieman’s show?
“CSI Bell Centre? Gimme a break”
What do you mean, ‘Gimme a break’?!? This is great! Exactly what’s needed; if the piece of junk league can’t discipline anybody who deserves it, somebody has to. This is justice for Pacioretty: the fact it’s being investigated at all must be an embarassment to the NHL for not suspending or even doing anything to Chara. They gave wiz like 6 games earlier in the season for his ‘obscene gesture’ to Avery because if you allow things like that, parents might not allow their young kids to watch… but now you almost kill somebody, and nothing? Nothing at all? Sad. I’m happy the RCMP are doing this… also, I’ve lost all respect for our spineless GM or whoever it was that said they shouldn’t make their feelings about this public.e
Formerly known as Camel_Larry.. ‘Sub-BAM! What a hit!’ ..”No more Looser on this teams!!” – Canadienboy
raised my spirits considerably.
So say we all.
F-Bomb tirade on an open mic.
talk about your bush league networks!! Kypreos is an idiot, but no where near as big of an idiot as macLean, and spector is a weasel faced bastard who if I saw him right now, I might punch him in the face and ram a bunch of medications down his throat. (I am at work)
It boggles the mind how far people go to avoid saying that Chara is responsible. If MAx pac can’t play again, or not at a high level, he should sue the ass off of Chara, who clearly still can’t say “i should have let up, I didn’t, i didn’t think this would happen, I am very sorry” that is all we need to here. This hockey play gone wrong is so foolish it is not funny. I am a huge Habs fan, but i can honestly say that if Gill or Wis or Subban put a guy in like that (marchand, lucic, anybody) I would have the same opinion that this needs ot be delat with, from a hockey standpoint, not just the hit itself
“I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB
Great way to promote the game, Gary.
You’re at a freakin’ U.S. congressional panel discussion about encouraging American kids to get into hockey, and you essentially state, “Hey parents, sighn your kids up to play this great sport of ours. Granted, there’s a good chance that they’ll get concussed, because, hey… it’s part of the game.”
What a knob.
Funnily enough, I was Mitch’s 1,000 Twitter follower and was chosen as one of five listeners to co-host Melnick in the Afternoon this month. I warned Mitch that they need to start putting money in a jar in order to pay for the fines I’ll accrue from the CRTC. Seems like someone there beat me to the punch.
I just read the story on TSN and am speechless and appalled. Just when you think Bettman can’t get any sleazier and cold hearted, he comes out with this arrogance and insensitivity.
Shame on him and I hope he enjoys his after life in eternal hell.
What a douchebag is right.
I won’t comment on the police charges, cause I am not a lawyer, but I will say that if I get in a fight outside a bar and punch someone in the nose, who then falls on a fire hydrant and breaks his neck, I am responsible criminally as well as in civil court. In a fight, both people may have a chance to defend his/herself. Something that was not the case in this instance. Just pointing out some facts, not saying the police investigation is right or wrong.
Sports leagues (really only hockey, because football takes care of its players quite well in comparision) are soon going to stop getting the benefit of the doubt as far as policing themselves and trying to regulate violence inside the arena. When people are not adequately taken care of safety wise and the guilty walk, that is when these police investigations will start, and quite frankly, the NHL deserves them(not jsut this instance)
How about a 67 patch on everyone’s shoulders?
Excuse me but how I get this shit channel off my cable bill? I do not wish to support such idiocy
He’s a clown that’s all. More and more obvious by the day. I can’t even resist expressing my opinions like I had in the past. Full vent mode lately with each dumbfounding statement from this blogger. Seems like a nice guy and a talented writer, but sports opinions are lame at best.
So if Spector is blaming Max for “poking the bear” can I reasonably assume that Spector has now “poked the legion of Hab fans across Canada and everywhere else!”.
Therefore, any Hab fan that sees Spector on a street, would be fully exhonerated of any wrong doing if said fan happen to bump into him. The results of such a bump or the details of what was involved in the bump are not required, but obviously the fan was avoiding stepping in a puddle when this bump occurred.
Obviously i jest (maybe), but what an idiot Spector, and why do i get the feeling if this happened to a Maple Leaf that the Dubbin inquiry would look like small potatoes relatively speaking!!!!
You know you try not to think we as fans are overreacting, until you read or hear the next ignorant statement from some overpaid idiot dressed up as a Hockey analyst.
The NHL, by doing nothing in the face of this ugly incident has alienated millions of true hockey fans.
Things just aren’t the same anymore and I wonder if they ever will be.
I miss the days where the main topic of discussion was how much Gomez sucks
Call me what you want but if a Hab would have hit Bergeron or Seguin the exact same way, he would have got 10 games minimum.
A hockey play… my ass!
Interference is when you pick or impede a player not railroad him into the boards let alone a stanchon.
You’re right on both points. It’s not “retarded” (I was exaggerating a bit), but it’s not gonna work and everyone knows that. You’re never gonna prove intent to injure, and Patches is presumed to have assumed the risk of getting hit during a hockey game.
bettman must go.
5 game win streak!
Actually Danno, as much as I would rather hear the Gomez biz than have an injured player, when it comes ro ranting and raving, I would much rather have this than spend one moment on Gomer.
You may have opened the can… you may have just reminded everyone they forgot to bash Scotty for his one particularly ugly lame duck pass on the PP Tuesday night. Cue nonsense! …….
If Bettman wants to stay, he has to start a new disciplinary system. Be selfish Bettman, it’ll do you and the NHL good for once.
pretty sure it was
Now you’ve done it! 🙂
… Cruelest game on earth
That’s about as low as you can go. Spector is a sick man
I think he runs the place 🙂
Best argument for legal action I’ve seen or heard, but it’s still a waste of time. Nothing will come from it except newspaper sales. Nothing will be achieved.
A buddy of mine is a Bruins fan and started running his yap about this circus on Facebook. I pointed out that the only real revenge needed is for MTL to keep beating them 4-6 times a year and every playoff series…..
See Cormier v. Tam
Entirely different situation. Intent was much more obvious in that case, and it was between two Quebecers (as opposed to two foreigners).
I am amazed anybody (I mean ANYBODY) still watches sportsnet. That’s where sports lowlives (and lowlives in general) go to die. Who cares what that douche says.
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